July 29, 2012
— Gabriel Malor Cheney explains:
“The test to get on that small list has to be, ‘Is this person capable of being president of the United States?’”Cheney believes Sarah Palin failed that test.
“I like Governor Palin. I’ve met her. I know her. She – attractive candidate. But based on her background, she’d only been governor for, what, two years. I don’t think she passed that test…of being ready to take over. And I think that was a mistake.”
Well, certainly she had more experience than then-candidate Obama, although I concede that that's a damn low bar against which to hold our possible presidents (and Cheney's right that the VP has to be prepared to be president on Day 1).
This is from Cheney's first post-heart transplant interview, which will air tomorrow on ABC News vehicles. He's apparently offered some private advice to the Romney camp about their VP pick, though he doesn't tell ABC what that advice was. Hopefully, it's something along the lines he gave the Bush camp in 2000, when he was running their VP search: "Me. I'm perfect for the job."
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Posted by: steevy at July 29, 2012 10:08 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: Illini bill at July 29, 2012 10:09 AM (JmrnU)
Posted by: MrCaniac at July 29, 2012 10:09 AM (1grxW)
Posted by: steevy at July 29, 2012 10:10 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: sandy burger at July 29, 2012 10:10 AM (c13md)
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at July 29, 2012 10:11 AM (2S60h)
Posted by: steevy at July 29, 2012 10:12 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at July 29, 2012 10:13 AM (2S60h)
Posted by: Paladin at July 29, 2012 10:13 AM (lBFL9)
Posted by: USS Diversity at July 29, 2012 10:14 AM (2d71t)
Posted by: TEA Partier Who Respects Sarah Palin at July 29, 2012 10:14 AM (26i79)
Why the hell is he talking about this now? wtf?
I agree. She's not running for anything, her support at this point is rather small inasmuch as it's distinguished from other conservative Republicans, what's the point of piling on a woman whose life was destroyed by the Left.
Posted by: AmishDude at July 29, 2012 10:15 AM (J5tI6)
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She's right on most of the issues, and willing to fight for conservative views.
What more do you need?
The administration that Cheney was part of had a mixed record on the issues, and outside of the WoT refused to fight over anything.
I don't know Cheney's role in domestic policy, but the Bush administration was an epic failure. Not as epic as the Obama administration, but in 2001 there was reason to hope that a Republican president might actually try and restrain Leviathan instead of going on a spending orgy.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 29, 2012 10:16 AM (AUeaU)
Posted by: OldTexasChic at July 29, 2012 10:16 AM (k2qj/)
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Romney/Pawlenty - because you don't *really* want to change the status quo, do you?
Posted by: Romney/Pawlenty '12 at July 29, 2012 10:17 AM (AUeaU)
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at July 29, 2012 10:17 AM (2S60h)
Either that, or Dick Cheney has just given a nice gift to the Democrats
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That was my first thought. Are all politicians so hateful of the American people? Is it too late for our Country?
Maybe Cheney is in the thoes of dementia.
Posted by: Infidel at July 29, 2012 10:18 AM (WF3IU)
The President is more of a leader of the Executive branch and delegater of responsibility than an active micro-manager. Palin had those qualities to begin with and has shown her competence time and again after the election, with only a couple of minor stumbles - which puts her ahead of every single other person engaged in the public debate.
I don't know what Cheney's motivations were for this, but he is just wrong. Palin was more qualified for the Presidency than Barky (who wasn't, and still isn't, qualified for the presidency of a kindergarten class) or Biden the Retard or McShame the asshole idiot. Palin understands what America is about and where America's interests lie and those are the most important characteristics for an American President.
That said, I voted for Cheney in 2000 and 2004 (because I never really trusted Bush and didn't regard him as very intelligent - he was average, at best, though very good under pressure) and I voted for Palin in 2008.
I still love Cheney, but he needs to sit back and take some deep breaths. He won't have any effect on Palin or the coming election, but he should really think about what he said. I know that he's more than intelligent enough to understand how wrong he is.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2012 10:18 AM (X3lox)
Anyone agree with that assessment?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 29, 2012 10:18 AM (AUeaU)
Posted by: USS Diversity at July 29, 2012 10:18 AM (2d71t)
^^
This
Posted by: real joe at July 29, 2012 10:18 AM (saJul)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 29, 2012 10:19 AM (ENmf2)
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I have to say I like the Republicans that are willing to give a hand much better then these Palin types.
Posted by: Barack Obama at July 29, 2012 10:19 AM (AUeaU)
Posted by: Beto at July 29, 2012 10:20 AM (BAnPT)
Cheney shouldn't have taken the bait.Republicans shouldn't accept invitations to bash their own, especially when its a moot point.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 29, 2012 10:20 AM (Qt4f7)
Posted by: Paladin at July 29, 2012 10:20 AM (lBFL9)
Posted by: Dick Cheny at July 29, 2012 10:20 AM (4n0dV)
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I'd argue they were too focused on the WoT.
For some odd reason most establishment Republicans believe you can only fight on one front at a time.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 29, 2012 10:20 AM (AUeaU)
Biden, Cheney, Gore, Quayle, GHWBush and Mondale.
Palin stands above all except two.
She has accomplished more than most Presidents have.
Leave Sarah alone dickwads!
Posted by: General Woundwort at July 29, 2012 10:21 AM (DWgdc)
Posted by: toby928© at July 29, 2012 10:22 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: USS Diversity at July 29, 2012 02:18 PM (2d71t)
Bush would have picked McShame. They were really tight over the America-killing amnesty they tried to shove through 8 different ways, which is what ended up killing the GOP and setting the stage for the Indonesian Dog-Eating Retard to even have a chance.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2012 10:22 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: joncelli at July 29, 2012 10:22 AM (CWlPF)
Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 29, 2012 10:22 AM (GkwjL)
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Speaking of reach arounds - have I mentioned that the men at Fannie Mae were really good to me? REALLY good?
Posted by: Bwany Fwank at July 29, 2012 10:24 AM (AUeaU)
Paladin at July 29, 2012 02:07 PM (lBFL9)
you read taht and came away thinking he means biden is qualified?? you need to re-read the article very very very slowly.
Posted by: chas at July 29, 2012 10:25 AM (WsHgX)
Posted by: Dick Cheny at July 29, 2012 10:26 AM (4n0dV)
This serves NO purpose except to piss some people off when we need EVERY fucking body working with no egos hurt.
Darth Cheney should know better.
War cock, STFU.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at July 29, 2012 10:27 AM (3ZjAP)
steevy at July 29, 2012 02:10 PM (6o4Fb)
is this fucking imbeciles post on the internet day?? in what interpretation does cheney saying he feels palin wasnt a good choice an endorsement of 0bama, hillary or biden??
Posted by: chas at July 29, 2012 10:27 AM (WsHgX)
Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at July 29, 2012 02:27 PM (3ZjAP)
and i guess you love interviews where athletes just go thru the cliches??
Posted by: chas at July 29, 2012 10:28 AM (WsHgX)
I had hoped for a better 8 years under Bush/Cheney than we got, but it was a heck of a lot better than the dems they defeated had in store for us (AlGore and HorseFace).
But let's face it, the fact that Bush/Cheney wouldn't fight back against the 8 years of constant attacks against them doomed whomever ran as the republican candidate in 2008. Republican was a tainted brand which allowed Barky O'Dogeater to win it in a cakewalk.
Posted by: Boots at July 29, 2012 10:29 AM (neKzn)
Posted by: Dick Cheny at July 29, 2012 10:30 AM (4n0dV)
Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 29, 2012 10:30 AM (GkwjL)
I'd love to see all the "bitching about Palin" squad pro and con dropped into the middle of Alaska. Let the grizzlies sort that shit out.
Posted by: DaveA at July 29, 2012 10:30 AM (DVJEd)
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Actually, I don't get the point of interviewing atheletes generally. You are good at a sport - show us. Talk is cheap...and from most athletes boring drivel.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 29, 2012 10:30 AM (AUeaU)
Posted by: steevy at July 29, 2012 10:30 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: AmishDude at July 29, 2012 10:30 AM (J5tI6)
Posted by: chas at July 29, 2012 10:30 AM (WsHgX)
No... but he is a heart beat away...as we speak!
Posted by: Paladin at July 29, 2012 10:30 AM (lBFL9)
Posted by: political correctness czar at July 29, 2012 10:30 AM (Q2Ne0)
Posted by: chas at July 29, 2012 02:28 PM (WsHgX)
This is not about stupid fucking sports, this is about the future of our country.
I really don't give a shit what some fucking dumb jock says in an interview. He does have a fucking thing to do with my life. The election does.
Get to work.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at July 29, 2012 10:30 AM (3ZjAP)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2012 02:22 PM (X3lox)
No, Bush 43 would have picked Harriet Myers.
Posted by: MrCaniac at July 29, 2012 10:31 AM (1grxW)
War cock, STFU.
This^^
Posted by: chas at July 29, 2012 02:27 PM (WsHgX)
Really? What purpose does it serve? Geez, trolls are annoying and smelly.
Posted by: Infidel at July 29, 2012 10:32 AM (WF3IU)
And she wasn't ready, still isn't. Say something obvious about Palin and the cultists go batshit in an instant. What else is new.
Posted by: lowandslow at July 29, 2012 10:32 AM (GZitp)
Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 29, 2012 10:32 AM (GkwjL)
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Hey, she probably would have made a better SC judge then John Souter Roberts.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 29, 2012 10:32 AM (AUeaU)
Posted by: DandyTiger at July 29, 2012 10:32 AM (BMv7g)
Posted by: 18-1 at July 29, 2012 02:30 PM (AUeaU)
The most awkward moments in sports are in tennis when they interview the winners on court over the loudspeakers. I don't know who thought that idiocy up (probably McEnroe, the fool) but it makes me wince every time they do it - and always change channels.
As to other interviews of athletes, I'm with you. Who cares what they think about anything other than their sport? ANd even in their own sports, most of them don't have much to contribute. But, idol worship is indignant ...
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2012 10:34 AM (X3lox)
There is no doubting that Palin was an asset to a faltering McCain campaign when she was nominated. There is no doubt that she had more executive experience than Obama at that time. There is no doubt that she retains a core group of dedicated supporters, and that she is pretty smart about energy issues.
So, here is my speculation, for what it's worth. This isn't really about Palin, but rather about the future. It is meant to discourage the nomination of Rubio or Condi Rice. Rubio is short of executive experience, and Rice has zero experience with campaigning.
It is possible that Cheney, through his contacts, is aware of dangers looming on the horizon. If that is true, the selection must be made with the idea that a strong person is needed, one who has already been tested in regards to administration and perhaps has a military background. On those both Rubio and Rice fall short.
On the other hand, it also could be a twisted and chopped comment for from the elves at ABC, or from reporters who are just making crap up. Perhaps we should hold our fire until we actually hear the interview.
Posted by: Miss Marple at July 29, 2012 10:35 AM (GoIUi)
Ewwww...she probably got them all sweaty
Posted by: Albie Damned at July 29, 2012 10:35 AM (Yhu4q)
Posted by: steevy at July 29, 2012 10:35 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: D. Cheney at July 29, 2012 10:36 AM (2d71t)
Posted by: Dave C at July 29, 2012 10:36 AM (4n0dV)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at July 29, 2012 10:36 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: steevy at July 29, 2012 10:36 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: Lizzy at July 29, 2012 10:37 AM (Qt4f7)
Gabriel, Gabriel... good morning, hope things are good over yonder. but gah?
those in power decided she wouldn't be vp. is it worth arguing over at this point?
cheney, i'm a little disappointed in this at this time. sigh
Posted by: willow at July 29, 2012 10:37 AM (TomZ9)
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My guess is Mitt Romney would have been on the shortlist.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 29, 2012 10:37 AM (AUeaU)
Rank the following in order of fitness to be President: Sarah Palin, Barack Obama, Joseph Biden. No matter how you slice it, Obama finishes last on that list based on prior experience and accomplishments.
Posted by: OCBill at July 29, 2012 10:37 AM (MiSre)
I'll give war cock a pass and go with your second choice, ABC twisting and chopping an interview. But, why the fuck even answer such a question in any way. Darth knows better, which like you, leads me to believe there is something more to his comments.
They don't call him Darth Cheney for nothing.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at July 29, 2012 10:37 AM (3ZjAP)
Posted by: mrp at July 29, 2012 10:38 AM (HjPtV)
Posted by: USS Diversity at July 29, 2012 10:38 AM (2d71t)
Posted by: Infidel at July 29, 2012 10:38 AM (WF3IU)
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Oh, I know. It just puts a lot of things in perspective.
Roberts seriously came out as a leftist this term. Meyers would have likely been another Kennedy/O'Conner - but at this point I'd take that trade in a heart beat.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 29, 2012 10:38 AM (AUeaU)
And if this is really the meat of the whole interview then I guess we tie Cheney to the stake and burn him?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 29, 2012 10:38 AM (ENmf2)
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 29, 2012 10:39 AM (V/Aej)
No, Bush 43 would have picked Harriet Myers.
Posted by: MrCaniac at July 29, 2012 02:31 PM (1grxW)
No. Bush had a thing for amnesty. Myers probably would have been a decent VP, though. And as 18-1 said above, she was a much better SCOTUS choice than Benedict Roberts, the America-killing, idiotic, lying sack of shit dirt-ball.
Bush might have picked Rice for VP and then we would have been treated to her supporting the Dog-Eater and essentially campaigning for him from inside the administration while running for Pres in the next ... not unlike that miserable piece of shit McShame "You don't have to worry about a Dog-Eater, America-hating, room-temperature IQ President ...".
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2012 10:39 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: teej at July 29, 2012 10:39 AM (Os+6p)
Alito was the replacement for Meyers. Not Roberts.
But yes, she might have been a better judge.
Meyers' undergraduate degree in mathematics is a greater intellectual achievement than that of any supreme court justice.
Also, she wouldn't have been one of these idiots like Roberts who fetishizes our corrupt legal system.
Posted by: AmishDude at July 29, 2012 10:40 AM (J5tI6)
Posted by: Yip in Texas at July 29, 2012 10:40 AM (Mrdk1)
What fun is that? Facts? We don't need no stinky facts.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at July 29, 2012 10:41 AM (3ZjAP)
Posted by: steevy at July 29, 2012 10:41 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 29, 2012 10:42 AM (ENmf2)
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My guess is he would have wanted someone who agrees with him, in rough order of importance, on the WoT, amnesty, and taxes. Who is scandal free and has "gravitas". Someone who is arguably a technocrat and can take care of details. Oh, and who is clearly no grassroots conservative.
That would mean Romney I think.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 29, 2012 10:42 AM (AUeaU)
Posted by: Miss Marple at July 29, 2012 02:35 PM (GoIUi)
That is a distinct possibility.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2012 10:42 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 29, 2012 10:42 AM (KugEV)
Cheney's new transplanted heart must have come from a Democrat....
LOL, I was thinking the same thing. Maybe it's the altitude in Jackson Hole that is fucking him up.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at July 29, 2012 10:43 AM (3ZjAP)
Rank the following in order of fitness to be President: Sarah Palin, Barack Obama, Joseph Biden. No matter how you slice it, Obama finishes last on that list based on prior experience and accomplishments.
Unfortunately for Biden, his experience is at being wrong about almost everything.
Posted by: AmishDude at July 29, 2012 10:43 AM (J5tI6)
Posted by: steevy at July 29, 2012 10:43 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: Captoon Ed "N" Olliepindunce at July 29, 2012 10:43 AM (BAnPT)
Posted by: Mary Jane Rottencrotch at July 29, 2012 10:44 AM (FR3RS)
Looking back McCain seemed to be running to lose, he probably didn't expect Palin to boost his campaign. She did, the MarxSpewMedia smeared her in a vile manner but people still believe some of the MFMs lies. Palin has now embraced celebrity over politics and seems to be laughing all the way to the bank.
Posted by: Palerider at July 29, 2012 10:44 AM (cQZV0)
Why can't he say it? He was asked about it in how it relates to the Romney pick this year. Why do you people think someone like Cheney gives a shit about helping the GOP cause? He's running on borrowed time he doesn't give a shit about anything other then his legacy, which is why he had his daughter running around defending his water-boarding decisions. We spend 95% of our time pissing and moaning about how pathetic and disingenuous politicians are then turn around and pretend they're virtuous. Strange.
Posted by: lowandslow at July 29, 2012 10:44 AM (GZitp)
Posted by: steevy at July 29, 2012 10:44 AM (6o4Fb)
Boy, the comments under the article on the ABC website.
Really brought out the Cheney hate and the Palin hate. It's all that extreme right -wing fringery and those fucking Tea Partiers. They need to be exterminated. Or something like.
Can you feel the love, tonight........
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at July 29, 2012 10:44 AM (RFeQD)
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Something fundamentally scary to consider - Bush 43 is the second most conservative Republican candidate since Goldwater, and the third most conservative since Coolidge.
Looking at it this way it is pretty clear why we've been losing for the last century. The left nominates extremists, we nominate moderate liberals.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 29, 2012 10:45 AM (AUeaU)
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 29, 2012 10:45 AM (V/Aej)
Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 29, 2012 10:45 AM (GkwjL)
After seeing her criticized for her eye make-up and called a "legal secretary" by people like DAVID FRUM and Laura Ingraham and Ann Coulter, all of their objections boiled down to this: She didn't go to an Ivy League law school, but ( Hoorors!) SMU.
And just like good little followers, millions of conservatives jumped on the anti-Bush bandwagon and went right along with this, never thinking that perhaps W knew what he was doing and perhaps we didn't actually NEED another Ivy League person on the court.
Harriet Meyers was treated abominably and anyone who is still mocking her as a lightweight should explain to me exactly what disqualified her from being nominated (other than the words of the armchair critics on the radio).
Posted by: Miss Marple at July 29, 2012 10:46 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: sherlock at July 29, 2012 10:46 AM (f29LO)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at July 29, 2012 10:46 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: nickless at July 29, 2012 10:47 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: steevy at July 29, 2012 10:47 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 29, 2012 10:47 AM (V/Aej)
LOL, I was thinking the same thing. Maybe it's the altitude in Jackson Hole that is fucking him up.
*****
It's not the altitude!
Posted by: Infidel at July 29, 2012 10:48 AM (WF3IU)
Posted by: steevy at July 29, 2012 10:48 AM (6o4Fb)
Dick and Lynne managed to have two children, one of whom grew up to be a bulldyke.
Todd & Sarah had four competent children, and a fifth with Down's Syndrome.
Personally, in the grand scheme of things, I'm betting that the Palin line perpetuates itself long after the Cheney line has gone extinct.
AFAIC, the Bushes and their ilk - like the Cheneys - simply cannot disappear from public life fast enough.
PLEASE go the hell away and leave us alone - haven't you done enough damage to this nation already?!?
Posted by: Charles Darwin at July 29, 2012 10:48 AM (EyVl3)
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Heh, I wish.
If Romney wins he'll put a moderate warmist in charge of interior and the DOE. Wouldn't be prudent to rock the boat.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 29, 2012 10:49 AM (AUeaU)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 29, 2012 10:49 AM (kM30i)
Posted by: nickless at July 29, 2012 10:49 AM (MMC8r)
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The only real qualification for the SC is the ability to read the Constitution and the fortitude to base your rulings on it.
By that standard there are only three judges on the SC qualified to hold their role.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 29, 2012 10:50 AM (AUeaU)
Posted by: Chippa at July 29, 2012 10:50 AM (pRNLV)
I wonder what those mythical qualifications are that would make her "ready". I bet if she had whatever it's supposed to be, they'd move the goal post again and come up with some other excuse.
Establishment RINOs fear her.
Posted by: willy at July 29, 2012 10:51 AM (kUCQ4)
Posted by: Allahpundit at July 29, 2012 10:51 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 29, 2012 10:51 AM (V/Aej)
Posted by: Mary Jane Rottencrotch at July 29, 2012 10:52 AM (FR3RS)
Posted by: steevy at July 29, 2012 10:52 AM (6o4Fb)
Yes. I am sick of this notion that there are "qualifications" for SCOTUS.
The Constitution ain't long, it ain't complicated and it's in English.
In fact, a law degree is a negative qualifier in terms of conflict of interest.
We need more people with triple digit IQs on the bench.
Posted by: AmishDude at July 29, 2012 10:53 AM (J5tI6)
Posted by: Dick Cheney at July 29, 2012 10:53 AM (GkwjL)
Posted by: B at July 29, 2012 10:53 AM (jucos)
No, this is bullshit.
Establishment RINOs fear her.
I bet when you see those ads saying, "your insurance company doesn't want you to know" or "LANGUAGE PROFESSORS HATE HIM", you click those links like a monkey on crack.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 29, 2012 10:53 AM (QTHTd)
Mythical. We didn't hear and see her? There wasn't a conspiracy to make appear unqualified, she did that herself because she wasn't qualified. Still isn't.
Posted by: lowandslow at July 29, 2012 10:54 AM (GZitp)
Posted by: BobP at July 29, 2012 10:54 AM (nzWwW)
Posted by: AmishDude at July 29, 2012 02:43 PM (J5tI6)
And O'Bumbles is a frickin' genius?
Posted by: RickZ at July 29, 2012 10:54 AM (26i79)
I'd be alright with that.
Posted by: Ed Anger at July 29, 2012 10:55 AM (7+pP9)
sooo, i read Obama didn't sign on the UN arms treaty.
do we say he finally has done something right and we are glad (to help divide his base)
or do we go with He lacks courage to commit to things that would help him? (with his base?)
Posted by: willow at July 29, 2012 10:55 AM (TomZ9)
Posted by: steevy at July 29, 2012 10:56 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: Mary Jane Rottencrotch at July 29, 2012 10:56 AM (FR3RS)
Posted by: B at July 29, 2012 02:53 PM (jucos) "
It's those Roy Oberson sunglasses. Who told her they looked good?
Posted by: lowandslow at July 29, 2012 10:57 AM (GZitp)
Posted by: Bob Dole at July 29, 2012 10:57 AM (jucos)
You click links like a monkey on crack?
You need to get out of your mom's basement more often.
Posted by: willy at July 29, 2012 10:58 AM (kUCQ4)
Posted by: nickless at July 29, 2012 10:58 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: steevy at July 29, 2012 10:58 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2012 10:59 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: steevy at July 29, 2012 11:00 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at July 29, 2012 11:01 AM (OIuTH)
I shouldn't have participated in this one. Mea Culpa, as Christ0ph never said
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 29, 2012 11:01 AM (QTHTd)
So, what makes her "unqualified"? Does she need joe biden's super resume'?
What exactly makes joe biden the super genius who is "qualified" and ready to lead from day one?
Posted by: willy at July 29, 2012 11:01 AM (kUCQ4)
Posted by: Albie Damned at July 29, 2012 11:01 AM (Yhu4q)
Posted by: willow at July 29, 2012 03:00 PM (TomZ9)
global warming stuff. What's Up With That. He's late, now. SOmething important to be posted, he said.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2012 11:01 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: steevy at July 29, 2012 11:02 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at July 29, 2012 11:02 AM (OIuTH)
Posted by: nickless at July 29, 2012 11:02 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 29, 2012 11:02 AM (ENmf2)
Posted by: willow at July 29, 2012 11:03 AM (TomZ9)
I agree with Cheney that Palin's resume was a little thin, especially in comparison to others that could have been selected.
That said, I wonder why he couldn't have kept this particular opinion to himself. Perhaps he thinks that Palin is a politicaly liability among independents voting this November, and there is some benefit to the party in distancing itself from her. But oh the irony, because Cheney ain't exactly Mr. Popularity himself.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at July 29, 2012 11:03 AM (/7PPn)
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 29, 2012 11:03 AM (V/Aej)
Posted by: willow at July 29, 2012 11:04 AM (TomZ9)
Posted by: steevy at July 29, 2012 11:04 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 29, 2012 11:05 AM (KugEV)
Posted by: Albie Damned at July 29, 2012 11:06 AM (Yhu4q)
Posted by: teej at July 29, 2012 11:06 AM (zEeUf)
Posted by: 18-1 at July 29, 2012 02:32 PM (AUeaU)
Well that is setting that bar awfully low.
Posted by: MrCaniac at July 29, 2012 11:06 AM (1grxW)
PRESS RELEASE – July 29th, 2012 12PM PDT – FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
A reanalysis of U.S. surface station temperatures has been performed using the recently WMO-approved Siting Classification System devised by METEO-FranceÂ’s Michel Leroy. The new siting classification more accurately characterizes the quality of the location in terms of monitoring long-term spatially representative surface temperature trends. The new analysis demonstrates that reported 1979-2008 U.S. temperature trends are spuriously doubled, with 92% of that over-estimation resulting from erroneous NOAA adjustments of well-sited stations upward. The paper is the first to use the updated siting system which addresses USHCN siting issues and data adjustments.
Posted by: nickless at July 29, 2012 11:06 AM (MMC8r)
These factors, combined with station siting issues, have led to a spurious doubling of U.S. mean temperature trends in the 30 year data period covered by the study from 1979 – 2008.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 29, 2012 11:07 AM (ENmf2)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2012 11:07 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 29, 2012 11:07 AM (GEICT)
...and they adjust the readings of the good ones to match the shitty recordings of the bad ones.
The temp monitoring station in my area sits on a concrete slab in the middle of a 6 lane highway...
..yeah...real accuracy there
Posted by: Albie Damned at July 29, 2012 11:10 AM (Yhu4q)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 29, 2012 11:11 AM (GEICT)
Posted by: rickl at July 29, 2012 11:14 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: teej at July 29, 2012 03:06 PM (zEeUf) "
Oh poor teej, we're disgusting him by stating some obvious truths. Sorry to upset your delicate psyche.
Posted by: lowandslow at July 29, 2012 11:16 AM (GZitp)
But given his theory of what it takes to be VP, how would Rubio be any more qualified than Palin? Not surprisingly, he's really saying that it takes a mainstream Republican elite to be VP...which is precisely the major turn-off for conservatives and independents.
Posted by: 8starsnorth at July 29, 2012 11:16 AM (9DR58)
Posted by: steevy at July 29, 2012 03:10 PM (6o4Fb)
As I wrote in the other WUWT thread, I think the big difference is the publication of the paper stating that and who supports the conclusion. Not sure, but I think that's the rub.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2012 11:17 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: teej at July 29, 2012 11:18 AM (k/Mc/)
CNN Plays Pink's 'Stupid Girls' before a segement on CNN Sunday Morning about Sarah Palin visiting a Chick-fil-A to support their company
Blackbook
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 29, 2012 11:23 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: teej at July 29, 2012 03:18 PM (k/Mc/)"
Yes, only the blind and ignorant go through life not worshiping some politician/celebrity. Whoa is us.
Posted by: lowandslow at July 29, 2012 11:26 AM (GZitp)
Posted by: teej at July 29, 2012 03:06 PM (zEeUf)
Cut Jib Newsletter
Posted by: political correctness czar at July 29, 2012 11:28 AM (Q2Ne0)
What a complete idiot Dick Cheney is. Does he realise how many people do respect Palin, most of them in the base of the conservative movement.
Heck, even a reagan ex-democrat like me found a lot of respect for Palin.
Looks like the establishement repubs like Cheney and Bush's mother just can't keep their mouths shut when talking about those bitter clinger americans like Palin! How dare Palin do the hard work of trying to motivate the conservative base to defeat Barry in November! I've come to really loathe the establishement repubs and dems, idiots think they know better than the rest of average americans.
Posted by: johnc_ex-democrat at July 29, 2012 11:28 AM (ACkhT)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2012 03:17 PM (X3lox)
I think I might be wrong on this. I'm going to have to slog through the whole paper. I think the big thing is the application of a new, more accurate temp-site-mediation method (developed by the guy whose older method was used by all) to old site data that had used the old method dramatically changes the conclusions of the old papers with respect to mean temperature changes. I can't say if the authors of the older papers accept this or not, but they can't quibble much with the more accurate method used on their specific data.
I think ... that's where we're at. But we've seen the global warming-mongerers deny data right in front of their faces, so I'm not sure this will have exactly the impact Watts was saying - though it should.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2012 11:29 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: steevy at July 29, 2012 11:34 AM (6o4Fb)
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For what, commenting? If that's the standard, then why don't we wait until the actual interview is released before blogging about it?
Posted by: Kensington at July 29, 2012 11:35 AM (uaEZS)
Watts, himself was the co-author of one of the older papers but he makes special mention of accepting the older conclusions of Muller (of Berkeley) with the older method of site-remediation, whose data would now be changed to show the serious inflation of mean temp changes.
I guess the rub is that Muller should have to accept the new conclusions using the new method on his data. I don't know who Menne is (of the other paper).
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2012 11:44 AM (X3lox)
"sheÂ’d only been governor for, what, two years."
So, Barry only had 2 years as a US senator, and that makes him more qualified to be president, while Palin who had been a mayor and then a governor, not even qualified to be VP??
Should have kept his mouth shut or if he was going to say this, then he should have used his line to slam Barry, and yet he didn't
Posted by: johnc_ex-democrat at July 29, 2012 11:46 AM (ACkhT)
Posted by: KG at July 29, 2012 11:56 AM (IPz9m)
Posted by: marshall west at July 29, 2012 11:56 AM (jNNWD)
Posted by: Roger at July 29, 2012 12:17 PM (TOVGS)
At least with Palin I get the sense she understands the country she might end up default running as president, with a decent sense of where the country should go. I'll take that every time over a wannabe Euro socialist and his cabinet of utopianists.
Cheney is nuts.
Posted by: RAB at July 29, 2012 12:18 PM (sG7Cx)
Posted by: Roger at July 29, 2012 04:17 PM (TOVGS) "
Enlighten us, what corruption did she clean up?
Posted by: lowandslow at July 29, 2012 12:28 PM (GZitp)
Sarah Palin is an ignorant slut from a non-progressive state. She dresses like a whore and makes all women look bad. She is a disgrace to the feminist cause. We voted on this at the Brattleboro Democratic Womens' Caucus four years ago, and renew our vote every six months.
All of this is a distraction from the greater cause of getting our beloved President Barack Obama re-elected for four more glorious years. And dare I hope for more?
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at July 29, 2012 12:30 PM (4hwtR)
So an outstanding job have they done, we may never recover from the results of their leadership.
Posted by: navybrat at July 29, 2012 12:38 PM (AMpt+)
CheneyÂ’s statement about Palin was basically a two-parter. First,
that she was not ready to be President, and second that, therefore, her
selection in 2008 was a mistake.
As it happens, I agree with him on the first statement, and disagree on the second. Dick Cheney has a particular opinion about the VP slot on a ticket, to which he is completely entitled and I respect him for expressing it. He may be trying to nudge Romney towards Portman. Most VP candidates, however, have not been selected with suitability for immediate succession to the Presidency in mind, and I do not believe that this factor carries as much weight with the voting public as Cheney believes.
VPÂ’s have mostly been selected with political, factional, geographic or demographic factors in mind. At least after the point where we stopped making the runner-up in the Presidential election the Vice President, which I think was in 1804.
In the campaign, the responsibility of the VP candidate has been, mostly, to function as sort of a super-surrogate for the Presidential candidate. To do well in the VP debate. And to shore up the base where it needs it. There are people out there who can do this, and extensive executive experience is not a determinative factor.
Posted by: TH at July 29, 2012 12:55 PM (QV8Gr)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at July 29, 2012 12:59 PM (i330i)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at July 29, 2012 01:00 PM (i330i)
Pretty fun stuff....heck, if Algore possessed third grade reading skills, it'd probably make his manbearpig head 'asplode.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at July 29, 2012 01:09 PM (L7hol)
Consider yourself enlightened.
http://tinyurl.com/5asw2h
"<i>After she got into office she started going after corrupt legislators, and with the FBI's help we've put four of them in prison, indicted six more and the "Corrupt Bastard's Club" as they arrogantly called themselves (even had hats made with CBC on the front!) suddenly found it no fun anymore.</i>"
Posted by: Smarter than lowandslow at July 29, 2012 01:21 PM (wrsou)
yeah probably.
His daughter went dike so he either now has to justify to himself where he went wrong as a father or jump on the "Being Gay is Okay, don't you dare eat Chik Fil A " bandwagon.....
Tough spot to be in (especially on holidays I would guess).
Posted by: reality check at July 29, 2012 01:28 PM (zsgo8)
Posted by: Warm Bucket Of Spit at July 29, 2012 01:37 PM (qEgle)
Posted by: @PurpAv at July 29, 2012 01:40 PM (qE+H8)
How long did it take for Palinbots/cultists to declare Cheney a black-hearted RINO who is merely saying this about Palin because he's really a flaming liberal pretending to be conservative? Or accuse him of being jealous of Palin's good looks? Or accuse him of sexism? Or that he secretly wants to be married to Todd, therefore he hates Palin? Or being a "guilt-ridden abortionist who h8s Palin" like I once was? LOL. I bet the bots are butthurt over this one.
For the record, Cheney is SPOT-ON as he ALWAYS is. Good for him! Love that honest man.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at July 29, 2012 01:49 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at July 29, 2012 01:52 PM (KL49F)
1.Teddy Roosevelt had two years as NY Governor when elected VP
2. Calvin Coolidge had two years as Mass Governor when elected VP.
3. Woodrow Wilson had two years as NJ Governor when elected President.
All were considered qualified.
Time as a Senator is not valuable experience for the presidency, as the current occupant shows. JFK was somewhat of an exception, but he had a rocky first year. His most important achievements were passed after his death.
Posted by: topcat at July 29, 2012 01:52 PM (iuZ5S)
--"For the record, Cheney is SPOT-ON as heALWAYS is. Good for him! Love that honest man."
Actually, no he's not ALWAYS right--no human being is. He was wrong about deficits, and wrong about this. You know, we ARE allowed to disagree with Cheney without being called "Palin-bots." The fact that you think supporting someone makes on a bot, only shows that irony is lost on you "Cheney-bots." (See what I did there?)
For the record...I think Cheney is a great man...he's just wrong about this.
Posted by: Smarter than lowandslow at July 29, 2012 01:57 PM (wrsou)
Had he not done that, she would have finished her term, been re-elected and now be sitting pretty for Veep in a year that we might just win (or might have done well in the primary, who knows?) I think she was plucked one cycle too early.
Posted by: DanInMN at July 29, 2012 02:09 PM (mGL6P)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at July 29, 2012 02:11 PM (i330i)
Why the fetish about Palin?
She's not running for any office. She's not an Romney adviser. She's not even a regular on the liberal sunday shows.
Oh. maybe she ate a a Chik-fil-a once.
Posted by: Mark E at July 29, 2012 02:12 PM (SXICm)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at July 29, 2012 02:13 PM (i330i)
Posted by: East Bay Jay at July 29, 2012 02:18 PM (7v8o1)
Posted by: crazy at July 29, 2012 02:25 PM (DymQ2)
Thanks. This is by far the best pro-Palin comment on this thread.
I still disagree - I think Cheney is right - but you've laid out the problem at hand, and defended Cheney's position as best it can be.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 29, 2012 02:49 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Roger at July 29, 2012 02:55 PM (TOVGS)
I think that Cheney assigns far too much importance to the "ready to be President on Day One" factor. In particular, in this cycle, I think that this criteria, if over-emphasized, would lead us away from some potentially very good candidates, such as Ayotte, Ryan and Rubio, and towards to potentially very mediocre ones, such as Pawlenty and Portman.
On the whole, of the above I think I like Rubio the best, because he is good at speaking off the cuff, has a good command of the facts, and can speak eloquently and with some passion about the issues. He is also from Florida, and a little extra enthusiasm down there might well help pick up a Senate seat along with the state in the electoral college. It has nothing to do with his being Hispanic, however.
Posted by: TH at July 29, 2012 03:48 PM (QV8Gr)
P.S. She quit. She's now not much more than a Rush Limbaugh-type who trolls dumb lefties.
Posted by: Anony at July 29, 2012 04:04 PM (qiXMt)
Sarah You are Ready Today to Be POTUS
Posted by: royroyo at July 29, 2012 04:06 PM (3GtYD)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 29, 2012 04:10 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: P. Henry Saddleburr at July 29, 2012 04:13 PM (mbfmL)
Posted by: Anony at July 29, 2012 08:04 PM (qiXMt
Respectfully, I would disagree. Unlike Rush, her standard stump speech is fairly loyal to the GOP and uncontroversial (at least to GOP audiences). Rush tosses bombs for ratings first, and supports Republicans after; Palin does not.
She workss to help nominate GOP candidates that she likes, but I don't have a problem with that. Everyone in the Party should be accorded that privilege.
Posted by: TH at July 29, 2012 04:18 PM (QV8Gr)
Posted by: wankette at July 29, 2012 05:45 PM (qNhTJ)
Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood (mentioned in dispatches at July 29, 2012 06:13 PM (p4U6S)
http://tinyurl.com/5asw2h
After she got into office she started going after corrupt legislators, and with the FBI's help we've put four of them in prison, indicted six more and the "Corrupt Bastard's Club" as they arrogantly called themselves (even had hats made with CBC on the front!) suddenly found it no fun anymore."
Enlightened? You link to an article so full of shit the author of it uses an alias.
Palin didn't do shit to stop corruption in Alaska and sure as hell didn't have anything to do with VECO as article claims. She had nothing to do with anyone going to jail, nothing. The shit you people will believe.
All she ever did was report the head of the GOP for working on GOP business while on state time, resulting in him quitting his state job. Yeah she cleaned house.
Posted by: lowandslow at July 29, 2012 07:01 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at July 29, 2012 06:11 PM (i330i)
I'm only repeating the nonsense that Palin's cultists spew on a regular basis. They ALWAYS claim that the reason anyone ever says anything less than positive about their Queen, they are jealous of her looks.
I haven't checked the whole thread yet, but did anyone call her "Sarah, Joan of Arc", "Esther", or "Our Great Northern Star"? The bots always do over at HA.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at July 29, 2012 07:29 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: Baldy at July 29, 2012 07:51 PM (opS9C)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at July 29, 2012 09:43 PM (3yCFy)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at July 29, 2012 09:45 PM (3yCFy)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at July 29, 2012 09:53 PM (3yCFy)
Can we all agree that being the Leader of the Free World is not a job for just anyone that can spout off a few bumper sticker slogans?
I have all sorts of right-wing family members that have the same beliefs that I do, but I wouldn't let them so much as change my oil, much less be Commander in Chief.
At the end of the day, I'm glad Cheney said it. Palinistas need to have their stupidity smeared in their face until they day they die.
Posted by: Brad at July 29, 2012 09:55 PM (XDRsa)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at July 29, 2012 09:59 PM (3yCFy)
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Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at July 29, 2012 10:42 PM (i330i)
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Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood (mentioned in dispatches at July 30, 2012 03:00 AM (p4U6S)
Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood (mentioned in dispatches at July 30, 2012 03:03 AM (p4U6S)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at July 30, 2012 02:42 AM (i330i)
Lucky you! I gave them up in January after being a member since the beginning. I couldn't bear the worship of St. Sarah any longer (among other things...).
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