1 Weird, I sent a letter of congratulations on that  exact bridge.

2

The Chinese are so freakin good with this stimulus they made a bridge colapse just so they could buil another.......genius I tells ya

 

Krugman

 

 

3 Warren should be more like a Chinese beach goer, with  a head hiding  mask.

4 Tom Friedman unavailable for comment.

5 Clearly, that bridge was too far from the market.

6 The bridge  was RAPED!!!!

7 Hey Paul Krugman would just tell the ChiComs that they needed to jam even more money into it to make it fail bigger.

Keynesianism is just the financial version of Gaia Cult enviromentalism with money as good works.

8 Maybe we can convince the democrats to go ahead and start civil war 2.0 early....

just think of all the shovel ready jobs...

9 Break out the spoons.

10 SEE!?!?

11

SCOAMF recovery plan; colapse Golden Gate, Bay Bridge, Mackinac, GW, and Brooklyn bridge....in 30yrs when EPA finally gives approval because/fish we will have tons and tons of jobs due to his wicked bridge buildin stimulus skillzz

 

12 well, don't we have the same policy with low income housing projects? Wait 20-30 years till they're uninhabitable and then tear them down and biuld new ones? All we need to do is double up while the Obama Admin is wrecking the economy and we can have a new boom in construction.

13 So those OWSers that were going to blow up bridges were just part of STIMMILIS?

14 That's what happens when you don't have someone like me testing the foundation strength of the soil under the thing.

15

Collapsed bridges, completely empty new cities, the fake disney-esque amusement park that never opened, the world's largest indoor (empty) mall, all those crumbling Olympic venues from four years ago.....what could go wrong?

 

There was a photo here a couple years ago that showed one of those brand new high rise buildings from one of those empty Chinese cities, and the building had just tipped over and fallen down.  No word on Hank Johnson's whereabouts at the time.

 

16 Now if they can just figure out how to build collapsing bridges into their brand new ghost towns, the economy could really start humming.

17 In other area news, it rained in India  last week, leaving  40,000 casualties, or something like that. Also known as "wednesday" in India.

18 15 Boots,

The Chinese are running the world's biggest confidence trick.  I am not shrugging at their progress but either they have a spare 275 million people in their back pocket, or they are an example of retarded central planning.  I'll go with the latter.

19

Buildings in China look like they're about to fall down when brand new.....it's actually shocking to see a brand new uninhabited building listing to the left with  foudational concrete crumbling.

Yes we definately need to emulate these people.....American politicians are idiots

 

20 fouNdational....shit

21 and this came yesterday CHART OF THE DAY: China Might Be In Worse Shape Than We Think http://is.gd/Wv7GNG

22 The school collapse onto the basement fireworks factory should have been a hint that they need to up their game as far as building quality and zoning.

23 Several dads in my son's Cub Scouts troop work construction for residential all the way up to large commercial/industrial contracts.  They do not buy any Chinese sourced products because everyone knows they are shit and absolutely cannot be trusted.  If a product slips by and ends up in a project, they have to tear it out and then rebuild it with trusted source vendors.  It's a pain in the ass, but they do it.

24 Nine months isn't bad compared with Choomsters accomplishments. Cash for Clunkers was a joke before it even completed. Government Motors was back underwater within 9 months of the IPO. Guess he just didn't spend enough.

25 Let's play a game of "Guess what happens next"....

the Chinese version

26 @18 yes they do think they have a spare 275 million people......

27 9.6 MILE bridge and only 4 trucks fell? 4 trucks. Must be rush hour in the ghost city.

28 23 EC,

Korean metal has similar issues, the tensile strength just cannot be relied on.  Nobody is better at corruption and wiggle room than the command market citizen or his neighbors.

29 When a river is raped by a bridge, it has a way of shutting that down.

30 It isn't the chinese infrastructure they admire, its the power and control.  Power+control+communism=win!!

31 @26- Heh, the Agree gang thinks we have a spare 275M in this country.

32

Let's play a game of "Guess what happens next"....

the Chinese version
-------

Well, first they'll deploy  a small crowd 100,000, at gunpoint (per se), and clean up the mess of the bridge in about a weeks time, erase the collapse from the news, and move on.  

33 I said Ayres not agree you saggin fraggin fone.

34 30 thunderb,

correct....

here in America people sue the city, the city sues the builder, the builder sues the engineer....

in China the state kills the project manager, they kill the builder's director, they kill people who bitch too much....

Lez Warren wants the power that goes with the infrastructure.

35

So Joe Biden isn't going to Tampa.....god these guys love to throw down the gauntlet and then pick it up and mutter nevermind.....

 

No one in this administration including SCOAMF has ever, ever been in a fist fight......pussies

36 32 UWp,

that too...

37 We build things much better here. Take, for example, the Solyndra manufacturing facility -- built from scratch for just over $300 million in taxpayer backed funds. After a competitive auction process, this near new facility has been sold for.......$90 million.
 
Bu they that's okay, because by suborning the taxpayer debt illegally to private investors we won't see a dime of that money. They get first dibs and we the people get a first class ass fucking.
 
Damn if I don't almost like the Chinese method better myself.

38 33 teej,

on a long enough timeline I do believe you're correct....inevitably when mankind fails to live up to Marxist perfection it is mankind not Marx that should change....

"kulak" friend "kulak"

39 37 GB,

I was planning to do an epic post on it last night, but yeah.

The 312 million dollar electric car factory in Elkin Indiana was bought by the Russians for 31 million.

"thanks Brother Soetoro"

40 Ghost cities are an important part of the Chinese communist plan. Spirits need housing and China has enough spirits to fill entire cities. Once the communists allow them to vote, they will be in power forever. Spirits are very loyal and they will only whisper their votes to party members. It might look like failed Keynesian stimulus or ballet box stuffing, but it is compassion that extends to the grave and beyond.

41 @38- I think their strategy is more of a smaller population mostly restricted to the urban areas is easier to control.

42 Chinese birth defects?  A condition known as being born female, amma right here?

43 China, building bridges to the 21st century

44 The Chinese have mastered the art of constructing the perfect  the Post-Apocalyptic Film Set.

45 Liberals like Keynesian stimulus because they think it has something to do with sex.

46

In China they run a special news piece on the great speeches from the last 10 Republican conventions, and pick Goldwater's "extremism", Buchanan's "culture wars", and Palin's "hockey moms" speeches... as examples of how the Republicans embrace extreme positions and lose the electorate.

Oh wait... that was NPR, this morning.  I was half asleep, so it just SOUNDED like Chinese party-managed news.

 

47 44 surfer doc,

if it all does go to shit here and the donks succeed at making this a stagnant theme park of America enterprising Morons could encourage the Chinese to get us some Hobos and allow the ghost towns to be a set for the new TV Show "Hobo Hunting-Economic Competition Comes Home".....

imagine toppling a 200 story building on some OW$ers....

it'll be a ball

48 Tony Scott chose poorly. In China, bridge jump off of you.
 

49 When the gender gap goes full-blown in China, you're going to see a lot of failed erections.

50 Ras Sat Pres poll....

Choom 46, Mitt 45.....

http://tinyurl.com/5tnd2b


That is not as big a swing as most Friday-Monday polling has shown....we'll see this is a turnout heavy race

51 China peoples, they look like my peoples.

52 My dear Sven, is that English you're writing?

53 Romney is live on Fox on the stump in Ohio. If you're near a TV, he's killing it and SCOAMF.

54 52 Billy Sapphire,

we try dear

55 Keynesian Broken Window economic stimulus.

The government may as well pay people to dig holes and fill them back up, over and over again.

56 55 farsighted,

what we lack in utility we'll more than make up for in volume and envy

57 Maybe the Chinese can build Tom Friedman a smaller ass

58 romney just took a dump on CA.. not like he was gonna carry it anyway

59 @53- I'll have to wait till they show it in it's entirety on CBS. I'll start holding my breath in 5-4-3...

60

Biden accidentally flew to Tampon

61 The hardest part about figuring out how China is doing is that they completely cook their books. If/When the economy hits a deep recession, there's loads of people who won't be ready for it.

62 Romney is so much better on the stump than Obama it is almost unfair. He mocked SCOAMF by saying that Obama will be taking the nomination in Charlotte but won't call it BOA stadium. He also said I bet he will have greek columns, but you know what "we're not going to Greece"!!!

63

romney needs better music..footloose?   c'mon

 

play some kid rock, American Badass

64 Maybe the Chinesecan build Tom Friedman a smaller ass Posted by: Mr Wonderful at August 25, 2012 10:05 AM

Never happen.  Friedman's all ass.

65 "involved incurring heavy debt to pay for the rapid construction"

stupid question: who is China borrowing money from?

66 So could it be argued because the materials and methods that this bridge -
they really did not build that bridge?

67 I love Allen West.  He just said SCoaMF was feeding us a crap sandwich.  hahaha

68 Injuin Elizabeth.  She like big ass. 

69 The Boston big dig ending up being a make work project until Governor Romney can in and finally have them finish it.

70 we didn't build that crap sandwich

71 One thing that saddens me about living in a "safe" state is the libs here wont see many ads hammering barky and his evil ways.

72 If only the Republicans hadn't started a War on Women, this tragedy could have been averted.

73 61 HoboJerky,

The Chinese everyman is not sold the con at all.  Basically he is doing what he has always done, which is work your goddamned ass off or else peasant.  I'm a sinophile, and I made a few deep friendships in college with the ChiCom engineering students.

They are good people, corporate spies but what the hell are you gonna do in their shoes?

Anyway they cook their books by killing tattletales.  The job I do when I do taxes is figure out how to allow people to safely lie to our government "unknowingly" within non redflag parameters.  I don't "help" overtly I sermonize about what can and cannot be claimed, and I offer to e-file for them but if they go home and get creative I can't stop 'em and I am not bound by my mark for their alterations to my analysis.

In China on a macro level I screw up I get to play "let's test how connected I really am" or get shot.

74 They borrow the money from their central bank, which is printing it at an inflation rate of about 16% a year.

Everyone's money value inflates away, but the connected people in the treaty ports are the only ones who can get loans. They're like the Chinese version of New York and CA.

75 Who built that?

76 Completely related to the topic, I need to buy a new washing machine but all the reviews make me cry. Between the quality of new crap and the regulations that try to "save" water by not getting the clothes clean...

77 anna it's the kind of bridge the #scoamf would build

78 Starting to wonder if China will collapse when we default on those bonds.

79 If only Mitt Romney had released 47 years of tax returns, those Chinese truck drivers might still be alive today.

80 Somebody told Lizzie Warren a bedtime story:  Once upon a time, there was a Great Depression.  And a great man named FDR came along and put everyone back to work!  The end.

I'm pretty sure that's all Liz knows of that story.  Sadly, it's pretty much all the Keynsian  "economists"  know of it too. 

81

Romney keeps calling China a "cheater".

I love it.

 

And I thought his remark about the country "ending up like California" was funny.

82 From @iowahawkblog, the greatest billboard ever:

http://tinyurl.com/ce9sdgd


And via @LittleMissRighty an example of the attention to detail by our betters:

http://tinyurl.com/8ej6fet

83 I wish all the liberal politicians were as honest as Liz is and would just admit they would like for the country to have a quasi communist government.

84 78 GUR,

I think they'll shrug and make shitty MilTech instead....

Wargaming China has always been hard because you never know exactly what you're looking at.

85 81 Wheatie,

He's gonna make a play for the union vote by inferring he'll go quasi protectionist....

it'll work but we'll suffer some.

86 83 Adam,

Only Mass and Cali pol could even dream of it.

87 Did obama apologize for that bridge?  The Chicoms BUILT THAT!

88 In other News.....
The Golden Gate Bridge, Hoover Dam and the Glen Canyon Dam are still intact

89 87 yorkie01,

No, the Chinese did not build that the Chinese management class built that...

SCOAMF is your partner on wins, not losses.

90 Checking the pictures, the trucks looked loaded with crushed stone, and  one loaded with  bags of rice. Been living in the states for 48 years, don't think I've ever seen a burlap sac of rice, ever. Yet every photo of China has a 50 pound bag of rice in it. 

91

85 Sven,

 

I think we should export our unions to China.

We shouldn't hoard them....we should share them with other countries like China.

92 I'll bet that work was done by Bain!!

93 And via @LittleMissRighty an example of the attention to detail by our betters:

http://tinyurl.com/8ej6fet


Spelling is racist.

94 88 Beto,

In other, other news there are US Military ghost bases that are as structurally sound today as they were in the '50s...

it is almost like we were once "really good" at this game

95 Mama AJ, I'm not sure you can still find them, but yet to fins a Roper. They're one of the big name appliances' Mexican brand, and they are still made the old fashioned way. No energy star crap. Plus, they're super cheap. I think we paid maybe $500 for our set. I THINK they sell them at Lowes.

96 And just think of all the empty shell-cities we could build here, just like the Chi-Coms. Stimu-riffic!

97 91 Wheatie,

and feminists too....imagine the Chinese Dragon shackled by unions and harpies...

98 I need to fix some breakfast. Love each other fellow babies.

99 teej okay happy break-fasting

100 76 -

When I bought my most recent machine, the Sears guy, who looked like he's been working there for decades, said essentially "go cheap and basic."  The way he characterized it, no advances in washing machine technology has changed the basic means of getting clothes clean.  They all  do the same thing, whether it's a cheap Sears brand, in white, or it's one of the elite brands with their brilliant colors and their big glass fronts. 

101 90 UWP,

That 50 pounds of rice is your #1 SHTF survival tool friend....

102 The good news is that GM is as strong as a Chinese bridge. See what we can do when we invest in American industry?

103

# 24

Nine months isn't bad compared with Choomsters accomplishments. Cash for Clunkers was a joke before it even completed. Government Motors was back underwater within 9 months of the IPO. Guess he just didn't spend enough.

Ah yeah. Cash for Clunkers....I remember watching youtube videos of perfectly serviceable cars being destroyed in order to allow those well off enough to buy a new car to do so on the backs of those less well off, in the form of taxes. When you're working every waking hour to make ends meet, and trying to coax another month out of a real clunker to get to and from work, I'm just certain this made everyone feel all hopey and changey.

Obungle doubled down on stupid, and hit the same working stiffs for more money in order to finance the purchase of feel good greeny all electric cars....50k bux a pop for the car, 8k bux in 'rebates', financed again by people that simply want to drive to and from work each day in their same old clunkers they still have.

104 100 BurtTC,

why it is almost like washing clothes involves multiple cycles of agitation of cleaning agent and water to rinse said agent free from the fiber....

SCIENCE!

105 Outside of the bubble we occupy, corruption is just another fact of life. The bridge collapsed because the people charged with caring didn't care. They didn't care because they did not take their charge seriously because that charge was a gift handed to them by the elites appointed over them rather than something to which these people aspired. When I was a kid, I was taught that an anti-corruption ethos was a common marker for the cultures that formed the backward-reaching chain of what we used to call "Western Civilization." Later, I was taught that it was the English-speaking parts of the modern world to explain the shitty, highly corrupt third-worldness of former European colonies that weren't English-speaking. Later yet, that was revised to property rights as the antidote to corruption (see Hernando de Soto Polar, Peruvian Economist). The funny thing about property rights as the antidote to corruption is that the best strategy for fuckers who want to be corrupt and steal shit from other people under to color of law is to attack and undermine the very concept of property rights. The other funny thing about this is that all the major players of history who had the influence to move things in one direction or the other knew this.

106 54 52 Billy Sapphire, we try dear _____ Good to know.

107 Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia gravity.

108 I have a stainless steel trash can with 75lbs of short grain brown rice

109

 

I think Scott Brown should wear a Kilt when he talks about budgetary manners.

You know....because of how the Scots are known for being frugal.

 

Paul Ryan needs to use a Kilt in this way too.

 

Women like the idea of 'being frugal'.

110 The Golden Gate Bridge, Hoover Dam and the Glen Canyon Dam are still intact

Working on that.

111 I fairly certain that the structural integrity of that bridge would have been infinitely moar sound if the workers were given access to a healthy diet of cabbage sloppy joes and zucchini fries.

112 Posted by: mallfly at August 25, 2012 09:35 AM (NI3M5 We don't rebuild housing projects anymore. We just move the people into those foreclosures down the street from you racist suburbanites.

113

hmmmm - Wilder - D- VA is subtly slamming the hell out of the dems

 

says we need to stop treating electorate like stupid children

 

seems to not like the JEF so much

 

we need to work with pubs, reduce budget, reform welfare (all while giving Clinton love BTW)

 

hmmmm

114 Anyone who had studied about the USSR and all its construction problems should not be shocked at this. 

Command economies are good at endangering their own people.  This apartment building will be built.  But only paying the workers a Ruble a day. So when the bosses are not looking, the workers in the Workers Paradise are selling supplies.  General Winter then arrives and people are shivering, why are they shivering - because the insulation got sold off,  Or it collapses because steel supposed to be holding it up well got stolen.

115

Lauren, thanks. Mixed reviews at Lowes dot com, but yeh, why pay 2-3 times as much for some fancy crap?

 

Esp. since I have a gift card from Lowes--cuz we replaced all our windows--that would just about pay for it!

116 Gonna go home to Ohio do some holiday shopping at the Air Force Base, hold my head high and tell folks better days are coming.  I'll even try to believe it.  Confidence is only half as contagious as dread but in a proper environment more durable.

It is my sincere hop that all of you survive and thrive not matter what the results of our efforts are.

sven

117 @114: I remember back in the 80s there was a story that one of the top 5 causes of injuries/death in the USSR was TVs and appliances spontaneously catching fire and/or exploding.

118 Well add another mis-step for the Democrats at Charlotte.  Muslim outreach.

http://times247.com/articles/dems-draw-in-muslims-with-jumah-at-the-dnc

119 Off, damn sock.

120 114 AP,

Saw you post as I started to log.

Damn skippy, like Duranty at the NYT back in the day I've seen their future they desire and it's shit.

Be safe,
sven

121 So when the bosses are not looking, the workers in the Workers Paradise are selling supplies. If only this had been the case. The real problem was that when the Kremlin wasn't looking, the local authorities in the SSR were stealing their cut. Their underlings were doing the same. And so on all the way down to the one-ruble-a-day slave on the jobsite. Thieves don't steal because they get only one ruble a day. Thieves steal because they are thieves.

122 Ah yes, this is what you get evil capitalists get for abandoning the true system.

123 The Dems really have no idea how all abortion and Islam all the time will play with the electorate, do they?

I'd pay-per-view to see Sandra Fluke and a radical imam discuss sex though.

124 Ian S.  Anything built in the USSR was hazardous.  Pull up the Top Gear episode when they go sloshing about in Soviet cars.  Or when people tried to protest the MiG company for using alcohol as radar coolant, MiG told them to pound sand and if they wanted to they would use cognac for the radar.

125

>>The way he characterized it, no advances in washing machine technology has changed the basic means of getting clothes clean. They all do the same thing, whether it's a cheap Sears brand, in white, or it's one of the elite brands with their brilliant colors and their big glass fronts.

 

Only half true, I'm afraid. They changed the technology to "save" water with the front loading machines, but it's not actually an advance when it doesn't get the clothes clean!

 

Progress!

126 (I'm Little Miss Rightie on twitter btw just for those that didn't know : )

127
Valizbeth Warwhen is rat-faced flucking scrunt!

128 Yeah, definitely nothing fancy, Mama AJ, but we have had zero issues with ours in the 7 years we've had it.

129 Chairman Mao had some policies that dramatically reduced health care costs for the senior Chinese population.

130 I was being a bit simplistic by writing of only the graft at the bottom rung of Soviet society.  Local party bosses would also skim.  And so on all the way to the top.

The New Soviet Man, as created in the USSR, was an amoral thief only looking out for himself.  If you were a worker you never exceeded quota because the quota would be increased for everyone and your coworkers would beat the cr*p out of you.

131 Remember this:
"We have lost our ambition, our imagination, and our willingness to do the things that built the Golden Gate Bridge," Obama

Someone should have asked him "So which big projects have been started under your presidency?" If only we had a press...

132 The government's going to build crap because they can. It's human nature. Competition is what leads to improved quality, and competition in the marketplace is what the Obamas hate.

133 Their convention is going to be an optics nightmare the abortion on demand islamic race baters! Thats gonna persuade alot of people

134 Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at August 25, 2012 10:36 AM (ogdab)


  The East India Company had (at least anecdotally) a corporate guideline that if you weren't smart enough to steal FROM the Company, you weren't smart enough to steal FOR the Company!

135

Well, while socialism as an economic system certainly plays a role in this event, the general lack of concern for human life/safety common to eastern culture (and magnified greatly by Maoist communist doctrine) is the main culprit.  The disregard for anything, and I mean ANYTHING, other than personal monetary gain is nearly total, from top to bottom. 

 

 

 

   A friend of the family, one of those evil Christianist so-cons, runs a business in China and his firm actually gives the customer what he's buying - follows design requirements, etc., as a matter of corporate policy/ethos.  He's kicking his competition's butt, simply because his approach is as rare as hen's teeth there.   

136 You missed the money quote Andy!

According to the official Xinhua news agency, the Yangmingtan Bridge was the sixth major bridge in China to collapse since July 2011. Chinese officials have tended to blame overloaded trucks for the collapses, and did so again on Friday.

137 Well they are having their convention in a football arena.

Hey an arena.  Militant feminists vs militant Muslims.

I want the popcorn concession!

138 Chinese Premier has appointed General Tso to investigate the cause of the collapse and convert the guilty into buffet-grade foodstuffs.

139 "You didn't build that"... and neither did they....

140 Okay, China may have a problem or two, but its only because they're executing authoritarianism wrong.  Just give us a chance.  We'll do it right.  Cuz we have Harvard and stuff.

141 in the 80's those inspirational corporate work posters were hanging in the s&l i worked at......every 5 feet there was an "EXCELLENCE! BECAUSE GOOD IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH!" poster on the wall....i think the chinese need more posters

142 The dems are just doubling down on stupid with the muzzies.  Wonder if they are going to do outreach (I hate that word) having bomb making seminars at the convention too?

143

Look at what the meddling Demo-commies have given us...

Toilets that don't flush.

Washing machines that suck.

Light bulbs that cost too much, and require a Hazmat team if you break them.

Dishwashing detergent that doesnt get the dishes clean.

 

None of these things have done a damn thing to 'Save the Environment'.

 

The Donkey Party is the party of Epic Fail.

144 According to the official Xinhua news agency, the Yangmingtan Bridge was the sixth major bridge in China to collapse since July 2011. Chinese officials have tended to blame overloaded trucks for the collapses, and did so again on Friday.

And fat people. Don't forget the fat people.

145 According to the official Xinhua news agency, the Yangmingtan Bridge was
the sixth major bridge in China to collapse since July 2011. Chinese
officials have tended to blame overloaded trucks for the collapses, and
did so again on Friday.

Four overloaded trucks collapsed the bridge? But the trucks could bear the load until they were on the bridge? I suspect there is a flaw in the logic somewhere...

146 This sort of thing can happen almost anywhere.  I'm old enough to remember problems with weld quality on the Alaskan pipeline when it was being built.   My house when it was new back in 89' passed electrical inspection by the county inspectors, and I subsequently discovered/fixed over 50 code violations while rewiring it (3 of them potentially lethal). 

Federal Pacific, a company that made electrical panels, went out of business some years ago due to faulty breakers burning houses down.  They were faking test results.  After about 20 on/off cycles the breakers would stop tripping and acted like switches.  There are hundreds of thousands of those things still in the field.  Ticking time bombs...

Auto recalls...
Drug recalls...

In terms of product quality/standards, the Chinese are probably about where we were in the 1920's.  There was some pretty good stuff, there was some really atrocious stuff.

147 @143: On the contrary, the Dems consider all of those to be unqualified successes because they got what they really wanted out of them: more power and control.

148 what did one chinaman say to the other? we won't be crossing that bridge when we come to it..... thank you!!!!!

149 Just because the socialist asshole in the WH continues to piss me off on a daily basis, let's just remember that we paid five billion dollars to scrap less than 700,000 perfectly serviceable vehicles under the 'cash for clunkers' program in order to shore up purchases of new vehicles....those purchases heavily favored Japanese imports.

Yes, another Stunning Obama success story.

Our growing 30 billion dollar loss for the GM bailout was not available for comment.

150

Look....phoenixgirl has an ampersand.

I want one.

151 I would feel overloaded when I would eat Chinese all you can eat buffet. Last time I checked, I never caused the Hampton Roads Bridge Tunnel to collapse.

152 buying 'bridge over troubled waters' keeps the royalties flowing
and many chinaman happy

153 The Donkey Party is the party of Epic Fail.

Posted by: wheatie at August 25, 2012 10:45 AM (mtRB0)

Just you wait until we get Obamacare going!  You will not believe how well us Harvard and Yale types have mastered the simple science of regulating heath care while cutting costs.

154

So this is the country that is going to sink the USA and rule the world. Sounds just like the talk about the Soviet Union some years before its' collapse.

 

China is getting old too fast to get rich. Between China's corruption and demographic problem, China will slowly sink again. The coming century will be the American century. All that is required is a leader willing to open lands to energy production and the jobs will appear, gas prices will be lower, tax revenues will increase regardless of tax rates, and everything will become more affordable.

 

Hell, the sea levels may even stop rising and Guam might not tip over.

155 In a bad mood? Can't sleep? Gained some weight? Hey, I've got good news for you -- you too can qualify for SSDI. Join the other 1.3 million Americans collecting checks for these terrible maladies.
 
http://tinyurl.com/9tl2d5q (cnsnews link)
 
The beatings will continue until morale improves.

156 Hey an arena. Militant feminists vs militant Muslims.

I want the popcorn concession!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 25, 2012 10:43 AM (zMgpj)

 

 

 

 

    You'll be sadly disappointed.  The feminazis will not say jack shit about the muz trash and their vileness.  If necessary, Gloria Steinem herself would get down and suck the presiding imam's schlong to prove how much the fems love their little brown brothers.  Remember - to the Libtards, Islam is a minority race.  Thus, being "not white" they are immune to any moral judgment. 

 

 

 

    Feminists don't give a shit about "legitimate rape" and it's definition when it comes to their overarching goal of furthering Leftist goals.  If that means that a bunch of women have to get raped, murdered, tortured, and have acid thrown on their faces, then so be it.  They DO NOT CARE.

 

 

157 What... is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?

158 34 After they shoot the guilty (or the scapegoats), the CHICOMS cut them up for spare parts. Which they sell to the highest bidder.

159 If we had converted our Clunkers into avant garde structures depicting the greatness of our leader, like that weird sculpture in Berwyn, only with functioning drawbridge, barbican, and gatehouse.

160 remember in Jersey where politicians and some rabbis were caught in a sting selling what they thought were black market body organs from executed chicom prisoners?  recycling!

161 53 Romney is live on Fox on the stump in Ohio.

If you're near a TV, he's killing it and SCOAMF.

Posted by: Jay at August 25, 2012 10:03 AM (TzrpT)

"You didn't build that" will be seen as Barry Soetoro's ultimate blunder...  not only it re-energize working Americans, it gave Mitt Romney a mission... becoming President stopped being something he wanted to do, it became something he HAD to do for the good of country

162 There you go again with that 'reality' stuff Reactionary. 

Would think a good Thunder Dome for the Dems would be the icing on the cake as their violent cliques clashed.

163
# 157

What... is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?

Is that before, or after the federal bail out of 35 billion dollars?

164 I said on morning thread, Obama's you didn't build that outraged three dem voters and business people I know.  They are voting for Romney now.

165 Romney has a new line, "If your child makes the Honor Roll, you don't thank the bus driver."

Very good.

Another line perfectly designed to drive the left crazy as they will go "Bus drivers = teachers: Romney's attacking teachers!!!"

In fact, before the end of the day, some leftie will tell us solemnly and full of indignation how some teachers also drive the bus.

Meanwhile, just like his birther joke, this line will get far more play than it otherwise would.

Seems this Romney fellow is getting pretty good at tricking the sooper smart media into spreading his message.

Maybe he is the, uh, Briar Rabbit.

I denounce myself.

Who is smart enough not to directly punch the Tar Baby.

I denounce myself again.

166 The tires on the truck were not properly inflated.

167 &

168 http://is.gd/eXdytr

Full Secret Agenda of the Democrat National Convention!

From the snark-free guy.

169 I hope Oakland CA got a good deal on the Chinese built Bay Bridge.

170 its OK.  They didn't build that.

171

Does China have a program like Social Security?

 

That thing they have with "One Child Only" has resulted in that 4-2-1 thing.

4 grandparents.

2 married children.

1 grandchild.

How can this not result in problems for their aging population?

172 109 Only if they 'go Army"

173 From Breibart.  Brandon Darby describing Democrat tactics for the RNC.  Apparently they want to crash the EMS network as part of their plan. 

http://tinyurl.com/9sgt797

174

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 25, 2012 10:57 AM (zMgpj)

 

 

 

    LOL - yeah.  It's a sad thing.  Feminazis and Muz are the two things I hate most in this life (commies being a very close third), and would seem like natural enemies, yet they do not fight each other.  It's disturbing and disappointing. 

 

 

 

  However, if we had an effective propaganda arm in the Republican party we could exploit this.  We could HAMMER the feminists and muz at once, by doing nothing but showing the truth.  Ask the question - where is the outrage?  Where is the advocacy?  Why spend so much time bashing Christians?

175

Chinese officials have tended to blame overloaded trucks for the collapses, and did so again on Friday.

 

Did their engineers quit using the tried and true equations with their reasonable "factors of safety" automatically built in?  'Cuz last time I checked, those were pretty standard things - Civil Engineering hasn't changed all that much.

 

And SIX bridges collapsing since 2011?  Just how many new bridges have collapsed in this country since.....well, honestly, "Galloping Gertie" (1940)   is the last one I remember hearing about, and once engineers figured out what had caused that, they took steps to ensure that it never happened again.

176 Just how many new bridges have collapsed in this country since.....well, honestly, "Galloping Gertie" (1940) is the last one I remember hearing about, and once engineers figured out what had caused that, they took steps to ensure that it never happened again. I-35 Mississippi Bridge in 2007.

177 The liberal socialists will only fight the Muslims when the Muslims have finished off everyone else.  By then it will be too late.  Look at Iran after 1979.  What is happening to Turkey as the military and society are being purged of secular people.  And now happening in Egypt.

178 My friend spent some time being toured through China about 2years ago. He was in a group of executives from a number of Alberta businesses, mostly in banks and construction. He described the cities as being cranes and construction from horizon to horizon. At first they were impressed at the bridges and skyscrapers being thrown up at breakneck speed- the guides were pretty proud that there was little red tape to stand in the way of progress. Then one of the construction execs asked why they had seen not a single cement truck in 3 days. The answer: they mix all the concrete by hand on site as a means of job creation/ stimulus. And the material they were using as fill made the construction guys not want to go into chinese buildings any longer. When the construction execs pointed out that these buildings, roads and bridges were not even going to last 15 years, they were told that was planned, since who wants old buildings around? We'll just build new ones.

179 Oops. Sorry. I misread the "new bridges" part using a different time scale.

180

that bridge in MN

 

but remember that those bridges were old, the Chinese bridges that are collapsing are new

181 Delicious Lead Paint.  Those Chinese Communists sound a lot like the Saudis.  The Saudis wanted to build another hotel in Mecca.  Problem being an old Ottoman fort was occupying the site.  They leveled the fort for the hotel.  When asked why they were destroying such a landmark the Saudis remarked they could always rebuild the fort.

182 The liberal socialists will only fight the Muslims when the Muslims have finished off everyone else. By then it will be too late.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 25, 2012 11:07 AM (zMgpj)

 

 

 

 

     Agreed.  That's why it's ultimately going to fall to us to eliminate them.  Sadly, the libtards must first be pushed aside so they cannot impede that vital work.  It's a big job.

183 Chinese officials have tended to blame overloaded trucks for the collapses, and did so again on Friday.

4 trucks on an 8-lane bridge is "overloaded"?

184 Ian S.  The trucks were carrying the stars of The View across.

185 the trucks acted stupidly

186 As fas as SSDL goes, I wonder how many of them are vets returning from desert?

I ask this because I don't believe anything from ANY news media anymore.

187 Where's your national pride? The Chinese didn't invent this strategy. Cook County Democrats have been getting federal money to tear up and replace the same f'n stretch of I-294 every single f'n summer for decades!

188 The Saudis really don't care that much for their history, except for stuff directly connected with Mohammed.  Lots of Hellenistic,early Christian and Ottoman buildings destroyed or hidden away.  Building quality is decent as far as I could tell, probably because US and European firms do a lot of design-build.  Not like in China or developing Asia. 

189 I-35 Mississippi Bridge in 2007.

As I never heard anything more about it after the collapse, I looked up how long it took to replace that bridge, and was pleasantly surprised to see that the new bridge was operational just over a year after the collapse. Three months ahead of schedule, the Minnesota DOT site says. Pretty good.

190 @189: T-Paw was able to override the enviro/union rules and have a private firm start the rebuild almost immediately.  Would've taken years with normal DOT procedure.

191 That bridge collapsed because they didn't let us put the railroad through Rock Ridge

192 gaming thread comments broken......

193 Yeah and how about stimulating things like NPR. I just listened to a "news" story by Scott Horesley (SP) trying to spin the economy on Bush by using an interview of a former Biden aide. Apparently Obsmacare is having no I'll effects nor is any of Obama's failed policies. This was so patently blatant journalism malpractice that it is akin to old Soviet style grain reporting news . NPR is a disgrace. I am touring central west coast and can only get NPR where I am at .

194
# 171


That thing they have with "One Child Only" has resulted in that 4-2-1 thing.
4 grandparents.
2 married children.
1 grandchild.
How can this not result in problems for their aging population?

Last I checked, they had upwards of 30 million men that will never be married, and that number continues to grow. Sure, the black market trade in NK females that manage to sneak into China helps some, but even with the trade in female slaves, they've got a growing problem.

An aging, and nearly childless population is only part of it...like us, they're promising support to their aging population on the shoulders of the young...but unlike us, their youth is finding their chances of procreating, and producing the next generation of 'providers' increasingly remote. And that, according to Tom Cullen, spells "Expansionism".

195 There's a gaming coblogger that's run amok.

196

192 gaming thread comments broken......

 

Thread is gone now.....maybe it's down for maintenance?

197

Running Bear and Little White Dove didn't need no stinking bridge.

198 Don't forget another admirer of China;

Vice President Joe Biden: 'Great' cities in China, not United States

http://tinyurl.com/9cu6aw6

“I wish you could travel around the world with me, 600,000 miles so far just as Vice President,” he said, adding that he wished he could show them cities in China

199 hmmmm - Wilder - D- VA is subtly slamming the hell out of the dems

says we need to stop treating electorate like stupid children

seems to not like the JEF so much

we need to work with pubs, reduce budget, reform welfare (all while giving Clinton love BTW)

hmmmm

Posted by: thunderb at August 25, 2012 10:30 AM (Dnbau)

 

 

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The thing about electing a dem to congress, even though they may sound really good during the campaign, is that SanFran Nan or the senate pederast would shut that kind of talk down  real quick.

200 It's the System. Go ahead, complain that the buildings and bridges and roads and dams aren't worth shit and everybody is taking short cuts and stealing and looking the other way. The Chinese leadership thinks they can ignore or control math and physics and economics. They can't. All they can do is intimidate people with threats and murder and arrest. That works until people say, "Fuck it. What have I got to lose? Where's my pitchfork?"

201 I still think I'll go to Tampa. It's hurricanes you have to worry about, Isaac is a himmicane

202

Chinese officials have tended to blame overloaded trucks for the collapses, and did so again on Friday.

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From the photos, thats what it looks like. From the full article, this is also the 6th "major" collapse in a year.

203 I am touring central west coast and can only get NPR where I am at . Posted by: Journolist at August 25, 2012 11:24 AM (RFl8c) I stopped listening to NPR years ago. It is National Communist Radio and all it would do is put me in a bad mood and wonder how much their propaganda was poisoning my brain.

204

194....Last I checked, they had upwards of 30 million men that will never be married, and that number continues to grow.

 

Yeah, Sticky....you'd think with girls being in such high demand, that the Chinese would stop aborting their female babies.

But apparently not.

 

I read a couple of years ago....that it is the Parents of those unmarried young men, who are desperately trying to import brides for their sons.

The ChiCom govt doesn't want immigrants.

So they smuggle them in.

I wonder what happens when someone from the govt asks...."Where did your new bride come from?"

205

wilder is not running for anything he is retired elder statesmen from swing state VA.  And he "accidentally" showed up at a Romney event last week I believe.

 

San Fran Nan and the senate pedarest can't do anything to him

206 Eggroll taste like shit? Come back next time we have good eggroll. Happy family!

207 New meaning to bridal papers

208 No doubt the Chinese Leadership class will think a good round of conquering will keep the peasants off their backs.

209 9 of the 11 people shot at Empire State building might have been hit by stray police bullets;

http://tinyurl.com/cqtl8ct

At least nine other people on the street were also shot, but Mayor Michael Bloomberg said it is unclear whether they were shot by the suspect or police.

“Some may have been shot accidentally by police officers who responded immediately,” Bloomberg said.

The NYPD said the two officers fired a total of 16 rounds. JohnsonÂ’s handgun was able to hold eight rounds and at least one round was still in the clip, police said. ItÂ’s possible he had a second magazine, CBS 2′s Dick Brennan reported.

Police said it is unlikely that Johnson fired during the shootout.  One witness told investigators that Johnson fired, but ballistics tests donÂ’t back that up, authorities said.

210

From the Sidebar....

 

That "Dear Lord" link goes to the new ad from Team Barky.

It's titled...."The Birther In Chief".

Heh.

I think they grossly overestimate how much people care about being called a "Birther".

 

It's sort of like being called a.....'dangerous subversive'.

Fuck em.

Let's misbehave.

211 wilder is not running for anything he is retired elder statesmen from swing state VA. And he "accidentally" showed up at a Romney event last week I believe.

San Fran Nan and the senate pedarest can't do anything to him

Posted by: thunderb at August 25, 2012 11:35 AM (Dnbau)

 

 

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This is the campaign season.  Your comment led me to believe he was running for office.   Anyhoo, let him keep talking. 

212 How soon before Warren blames the collapse of the Chinese highway on the Republicans?

213

Last I checked, they had upwards of 30 million men that will never be married

 

Lucky Bastards.

214 Did somebody say 30 million Chinese men?

215 I've wondered about the Chinese medical system since I've really heard very little about it. The AP has a story about it today:
 
http://tinyurl.com/czocz6f
 
Sounds like the NHS on steroids.

216 China isn't smart at doing Keynesian stimulus. But they are more of an ideal laboratory for his ideas. They had built extremely large surpluses during a decade+ of 10% growth. Spending those surpluses on strong, long-lasting, useful infrastructure could prove smart. Trying to make those construction jobs permanent by building shoddy infrastructure is idiotic and Obamaesque. Now borrowing from China to fund stimulus when American infrastructure really isn't in bad shape comparatively to the rest of our competitors is a waste of money.

217 Did somebody say 30 million Chinese men? Posted by: Sandra Fluke at August 25, 2012 11:41 AM (Wp4rQ) A half hour later, you're horny again.

218

>>Did somebody say 30 million Chinese men?

 

With six you get eggroll?  That's a lot of eggroll.

219

209...kbdabear,

 

That whole shooting yesterday was....weird.

 

I was watching the story develop.

First, the reports were of a "Shooter and One Victim".

Then, the number of Victims kept increasing.

 

Next, there was a video of a guy who was there...on the street, in the crowd.

He said that he heard a shot, and then the police showed up and there was a spray of bullets....people all around him dropping.

He didn't know which way to run.

That video was never shown again....at least, not that I saw.

 

I think that Bloomberg is trying to hush up the details.

220 215  Suprise, suprise, suprise.  What we have to look forward to if we don't repeal o'care.  *shudder*

221 Dear Sandra, after that date with all those Chinese men.  China would have a new tunnel.

222 I may be in the minority here, but I think we should pass a law stating that bridges are not allowed to collapse.  Also, we should ban hurricanes.

223 Kevin, yes you are.  Next you will want to pass law stopping the seas from rising.

224 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

225 it is almost like we were once "really good" at this game

Posted by: sven10077 at August 25, 2012 10:21 AM (LRFds)

 

The locals are still using the coral runways we built on the Pacific islands during WWII...many of them without modern upgrades.  The Ocean-Raping Seabees used to dredge living coral, pulverize it, grade it and water it with seawater to keep the coral growing, thereby fusing it into a nearly indestructible surface when  dry. 

There were truly giants back in those days.  Ingenious, improvising  giants.

226 222 I may be in the minority here, but I think we should pass a law stating that bridges are not allowed to collapse. Also, we should ban hurricanes.
Posted by: Kevin at August 25, 2012 11:47 AM

My ban on hurricanes reduced Irene to a minor tropical storm by the time it got to New York

Banning leads to long healthy lives

227 I guess People's Liberation Concrete was sabotaged by Yankee Running Dogs.

228 When our bridge fell down didn't it kill more people? And that would be Bush's fault, right?

229 Obama Demands Race-Based School Discipline By Joy Pullmann President Barack Obama recently signed an executive order hiring race-sensitive bureaucrats to hold meetings and mandate racial discipline quotas. The order charges his new racial justice team, in part, with "promoting a positive school climate that does not rely on methods that result in disparate use of disciplinary tools." In plain English, that means that if different races have different incidences of disciplinary action, those of a favored race who act worse will be punished less, or those of a disfavored race who act better will be punished more, or both.

230 wheatie read an article about how the nypd didn't shoot any passers bye , their bullets were hitting things and ricocheting off and hitting them...meanwhile in the same article...it was reported that people were struck by bullets....

231 The bridge used 1/32 the amount of bolts a Yankee bridge would use.

232 Posted by: steevy at August 25, 2012 11:55 AM (6o4Fb) I see increased racial harmony in our future. Or riots. Cloudy, the future is.

233 Not that the new race panels won't make it worse Steevy but that already happens.

I know a family that had to threaten a lawsuit to keep their son from being suspended after he was assaulted. The admin stated that they knew he hadn't even fought back but that due to the race of the aggressor they couldn't risk not suspending both kids.

234 by...gah...i'm so freaking tired today

235 Them German women who claimed to have got pregnant by rape from them ruskis soldiers were Lycian whores. They enjoyed it

236 Them Jews who claimed they gots pregnant from them ruskies raping them during the pogrms were tin whores. They enjoyed it, otherwise theys bodies would have taken care of it

237 235, Stop ass-fingering the dog.

238

@229...Steevy,

 

In other words.....Only white kids will be punished.

 

Remember, Barky said that "reparations don't go far enough".

Now we know what he meant by that.

 

Barky is an Agitator.

That is his only talent....it's what got him noticed, by the party leaders.

Agitators pick fights, stir up emotions and incite people to act.

It's what they do.

Barky would love nothing more than to incite a race war.

239 229 steevy,
 
Heather MacDonald recently wrote a lengthy piece about school violence and the SCoaMF's directive in City-Journal:
 
http://tinyurl.com/9k648fj
 
Vic, pay attention here as you said you never heard of Heather.
 
I recommend that all the M-n-Ms with kids in public schools check this article out.

240 Them Jews whose arms were tattooed field whores never got pregnant cause theys bodies had ways of taking care of it.

241 So, we've got a lot of hate out there for Huckabee and Akin, but I ask you, Morons, who's worse for the country:  Hukabee, Akin or Richard Trumka?

Efforts should be concentrated to correct the evils of the country, so what should we REALLY be concentrating on.

My opinion is, it saddens me that the right isn't driving home the evils that Unions do and all the money that THEY funnel into elections.  Not ONE AD is out there attacking the Democrats SuperDuper PAC, THE UNIONS.

I'd like to see more froth there than the pencil dick in MO or Mike friggin Huckabee.

242 Bless their hearts,they never really invented anything so we need to pretend they did. http://frontpagemag.com/2012/j-christian-adams/fact-or-fiction -1001-muslim-inventions-comes-to-washington-d-c/

243 233 238 Imagine where we would be after 4 more years of Obama?He MUST be voted out in November.

244 Fuck off, Tattoo De Plane. It's not helping.

And with that, I'm off. See you on the ONT.

245 If we just be quit and ignore Akin the whole thing will die off and be forgotten . The women's vote will forgive him, the MFM will for get and Akin will win because he's a conservative and McCaskil is a sinner abortionist. Once people forget we can finally have a protector of the magic uterus in office to compensate for that abortionistRINO Brown and that abortionist cultist Romney. Polls will show that a fighter and real conservative will get 80% of the vote and you abortion loving eyores will be proven wrong.

246 We didn't build that.

247 Barky is an Agitator.
That is his only talent....it's what got him noticed, by the party leaders.
Agitators pick fights, stir up emotions and incite people to act.
It's what they do.
Barky would love nothing more than to incite a race war.

Posted by: wheatie at August 25, 2012 12:07 PM (mtRB0)

 

 

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The rhetoric is going to become more heated.  It won't necessarily be the SCOAMT that'll be doing although, he'll do some.  Most of it will come from his  minions.  Troyvocon was just the warm-up test. 

 

I'll  feel sorry for the white and asian communities  that live in the inner cities   when  Baraka gets defeated. 

248 Warm up the banhammer.

249 >>> Now if they can just figure out how to build collapsing bridges into their brand new ghost towns, the economy could really start humming.

I love it when academics (Chief Warren) and professional shit-disturbers (O-Zero) opine on the construction of economically-viable large-scale projects. 

These are people who couldn't run a shift at an ice cream shop.  People who have never made payroll for a labor force of one. 

But they pretend to know what an entire economy needs.

If I didn't hate them so much, I'd laugh.

250 Akin may be a fool but the "magic womb" mockery is stupid. Do you really think there is no chance that women are less likely to conceive when raped?

Here is an article about conception and orgasm-  http://tinyurl.com/8lvp9te
Do you think women likely to orgasm during rape?

Also considering that repeat sex with the same male increases the likelyhood of subsequent conception, the converse must be true.

251

247...Most of it will come from his minions.

 

Yeah, Soona.

And he has trained them well....

Barky worked for ACORN, training people on how to be good agitators.

252 Yeah, Soona.
And he has trained them well....
Barky worked for ACORN, training people on how to be good agitators.

Posted by: wheatie at August 25, 2012 12:18 PM (mtRB0)

 

 

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OK seems to be pretty stable with race relations.  Most of the black men I've talked to, where the subject came up, want the POS in the WH gone as much as anyone.  The black women, however........... 

253

250Akin may be a fool but the "magic womb" mockery is stupid. Do you really think there is no chance that women are less likely to conceive when raped?

Here is an article about conception and orgasm- http://tinyurl.com/8lvp9te
Do you think women likely to orgasm during rape?

 

Posted by: typo dynamofo at August 25, 2012 12:15 PM (23Rnf)

 

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Are you kidding me?

 

So....if a woman gets pregnant from a rape, then she's a whore because she enjoyed it?

254 250 Akin may be a fool but the "magic womb" mockery is stupid. Do you really think there is no chance that women are less likely to conceive when raped? Here is an article about conception and orgasm- http://tinyurl.com/8lvp9te Do you think women likely to orgasm during rape? Also considering that repeat sex with the same male increases the likelyhood of subsequent conception, the converse must be true. Posted by: typo dynamofo at August 25, 2012 12:15 PM (23Rnf) Thanks, All them scientists, dogotors , and biologists, that publish in them so called peer reviewed scholarly journals like NEJM, and JACOG are just a bunch of abortionists using satans work of the scientific method and biology and statistics. Any right feeling Christian knows that if Wilkie says it it's true . We don't need them journals to do a study of the anovulatory rate of rape victims and the pregnancy rate of them victims wese know it's zero. And thanks for showing all the Ace readers that wese believers in the magic uterus are not just a tiny fringe of barefoot, inbred hillbillies, that wese a big movement. And creation Science also proves the manic womb

255 Just got telephone polled. Told him early on just send barky to China. Make everything very unfavorable on Anthony Hensley. Very favorable on Casey Moore. Very favorable on Tea Party. Am a pro-life bitter clinger who will crawl across broken glass to vote. He was from Idaho and laughing by the time I was done with him.

256 No wheatie that is a fools reading of the facts.

257 (UOYbf)

I'm sorry idiot, that you don't understand that professional studies show that conditions which are MORE likely to produce conception are unlikely to be present in cases of rape.

258 The Akin Flu is here in this thread. Time to vacate this one.

259

256 No wheatie that is a fools reading of the facts.

 

 Posted by: typo dynamofo at August 25, 2012 12:29 PM (23Rnf)

 

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Facts?

 

It's only been in the last century that men have even concerned themselves with whether a woman had an orgasm or not.

How did the Human Race keep from dying out?

 

And women fake having an orgasm all the time.

They do it so that they guy will feel better.

Pregnancies happen all the time....whether the woman had an orgasm or not.

 

Trying to legitimize Akin's ridiculous statements is not helping.

260 Apparently Wheatie, the words more and less likely have have escaped your notice.

261

Posted by: typo dynamofo at August 25, 2012 12:32 PM (23Rnf)

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Rape is one of the most traumatic acts a woman can experience. If a pregnancy is the result of the crime, she's then faced with a decision of whether to keep the child or not. This adds to the despair and emotional trauma. Some women who are raped don't even get to choose, as is the case with the 15 year old girl abducted, beaten and repeatedly raped in Chicago. One of the attacks produced a child. There also was the young woman who was abducted as a teen in Oregon, I believe...she had two children who were fathered by the rapist/kidnapper.

 

It is beyond the pale to even introduce reasons or rationales as to why women such as the two cited examples - or any other rape victim - were more or less likely to conceive as a result of the most horrific event their bodies/mind/spirits have experienced. It is especially inappropriate for a man who seeks one of the highest offices in the land to invite debate on the subject in the clumsiest of ways.

262 257 (UOYbf) I'm sorry idiot, that you don't understand that professional studies show that conditions which are MORE likely to produce conception are unlikely to be present in cases of rape. Posted by: typo dynamofo at August 25, 2012 12:32 PM (23Rnf) THANKS!!!!!!!! I hereby take back my apology. I said what I mean and I meant what I said. And youse guys thought I was a fool and nobody agreed with me. The entia life movement is now an army of believeas in the magic womb. Youse think i was crazy and spokes for no one but myself. Typo has prove youse don't need more than a 6th grade ejucationat a trailer park to know youse can't get pregnant from rape. And if youse claim it youse just a whore. Now some of youse eggheads think that once you findyoself in a hole youse should stop diggin, but the truth from me and typo will set you free. And them Jews are all whores anyway. They busy fornacting with them othe Rajeev just befor the so called pogrom.

263 Kallisto-
Did I not say he was an idiot? It is the "Magic Womb" bit that gets me.

264 Lots of mockery and no  answers to the science of conception question.
Smells leftist.

265 Elizabeth Smart enjoyed it. Them real studies show that rats under stress have miscarriages so she musta enjoyed it. As typo said the manic womb would have oderwise protected her

266 Thing is that the attacks on Akin quickly morphed into attacks on Socons the religious and hicks.
Those people are on your side.

I have to go now so enjoy.

267 Do you really think there is no chance that women are less likely to conceive when raped?

Who gives a fuck about "less likely"? You can't side-step the difficult choice of what to do about abortion in the case of rape,which is what it seemed Akin was trying to do, just because it may occur slightly less often. Akin conceded in the same interview the obvious fact that pregnancy still occurs from rape, which makes bringing up the rate at which it occurs from rape moot, and fucking retarded.

268

Posted by: typo dynamofo at August 25, 2012 12:45 PM (23Rnf)

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Yes that's true, you did say up front that Akin was a fool.

 

The article you posted is more on the lines of advice on how to conceive, not a study on the likelihood of a rape pregnancy. From time immemorial women have depended on old wives' tales, herbal concoctions, novenas to St. Jerome, "correct" sexual positions, etc. to help conceive. The article you brought could possibly fall into that particular bag of age old female tricks, or it could be based on legitimate study and research. But the fact set presented is not one that quantifies the likelihood of pregnancy to a rape victim. Those studies have been done, the figure most cited is 5%, although I dispute that figure due to the significant underreporting of rape crimes, per FBI statistics.

269

266 -

 

I hope you at least got to read my reply, I don't think I had a mocking tone.

270 This is what them abortionists at ACOG claim is based on science. Eyes knows science when I see it. Typos statements more like science than them so called peer reviewed Jonals. Statement on Rape and Pregnancy August 20, 2012 Washington, DC -- Recent remarks by a member of the US House of Representatives suggesting that “women who are victims of ‘legitimate rape’ rarely get pregnant” are medically inaccurate, offensive, and dangerous. Each year in the US, 10,000–15,000 abortions occur among women whose pregnancies are a result of reported rape or incest. An unknown number of pregnancies resulting from rape are carried to term. There is absolutely no veracity to the claim that “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to shut that whole thing down.” A woman who is raped has no control over ovulation, fertilization, or implantation of a fertilized egg (ie, pregnancy). To suggest otherwise contradicts basic biological truths. Any person forced to submit to sexual intercourse against his or her will is the victim of rape, a heinous crime. There are no varying degrees of rape. To suggest otherwise is inaccurate and insulting and minimizes the serious physical and psychological repercussions for all victims of rape. The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (The College), a 501(c)(3) organization, is the nation’s leading group of physicians providing health care for women. As a private, voluntary, nonprofit membership organization of approximately 56,000 members, The College strongly advocates for quality health care for women, maintains the highest standards of clinical practice and continuing education of its members, promotes patient education, and increases awareness among its members and the public of the changing issues facing women’s health care. The American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG), a 501(c)(6) organization, is its companion organization. www.acog.org

271
Waterhouse- The question of what to do in the case of rape is the prybar that pro abortion people use against pro-lifers. It is for this reason that the pro life community points out the small amount of abortions that are the result of rape.

It is wrong to discount the pain of rape and conception through rape. I am not doing either.

272

264 Lots of mockery and no answers to the science of conception question.
Smells leftist.

 

Posted by: typo dynamofo at August 25, 2012 12:46 PM (23Rnf)

 

Okay, mofo.

You want to talk about...'science'?

Very well.

 

The article you sited didn't even address the declining motility rate in Sperm.

Sperm motility has a huge effect on fertilization.

The strong swimmers get through.....the weak ones don't.

The 'experts' don't know why men's sperm motility rates have been declining for years....they have theories, but they don't know.

A strong swimmer will get through a rigid cervix.

 

And...."Smells leftist"?

The feministas are the ones who have been trying to promote the "Importance of the female orgasm"....for years.

You are the one who is citing an article that....'smells leftist'.

 

273 kallisto- I wasn't referring to you when I said "mocking".

274 Posted by: typo dynamofo at August 25, 2012 12:49 PM (23Rnf) 267 Do you really think there is no chance that women are less likely to conceive when raped? Who gives a fuck about "less likely"? You can't side-step the difficult choice of what to do about abortion in the case of rape,which is what it seemed Akin was trying to do, just because it may occur slightly less often. Akin conceded in the same interview the obvious fact that pregnancy still occurs from rape, which makes bringing up the rate at which it occurs from rape moot, and fucking retarded. Posted by: Waterhouse at August 25, 2012 12:53 PM (8NimM) Thanks . I again retract my apologee. Rush ,bless his heart , said there was only a small cohort of belivas in the magic uterus. But now I keep,on seeing more and more and Ize will go out swinging. And them Germans who got pregnant by them ruskies were all whores who enjoyed it.

275

The question of what to do in the case of rape is the prybar that pro abortion people use against pro-lifers.

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One would think the most gracious way to address that issue is to stress that the baby is being punished for a crime s/he didn't commit. And that every support and resource for a healthy pregnancy should be available to the rape victim, now pregnant, to bring her child to term. How difficult is that?

276 I coulda said less likely , but that would be a lie. It Neva happens , Wilkie said so and he quoted them NEJM in his article so he must know his stuff.

277 One word: Whirlpool Toploader

278 Four trucks plummeted with it, resulting in three deaths and five injuries. Holy shit someone survived that? 4 trucks, 3 deaths. Assuming the other 4 injuries were bystanders and not passengers, apparently riding a collapsed bridge 100' into a river only has a mortality rate of 75%. What's his secret, did he roll into the landing?

279 "said 5 percent"

and then you dispute those facts. Ok. I just don't think it is stupid to surmise that rape may not  be the ideal way to conceive. And I don't like the dumping on all pro lifers as anti-science morons.

Wheatie sperm motility?

Do you know that vaginal mucous changes in consistancy during a woman's cycle? That vaginal temperature does the same? Do you know that there are machines that can tell you when you are ovulating by monitoring your urine? And none of that addresses rape any more than your sperm motility.

280 >>>>One would think the most gracious way to address that issue is to stress that the baby is being punished for a crime s/he didn't commit. And that every support and resource for a healthy pregnancy should be available to the rape victim, now pregnant, to bring her child to term. How difficult is that?


That is my answer but I can see why that would be political killer.

281 Now I'm really going. Have a good one.

282 279 "said 5 percent" and then you dispute those facts. Ok. I just don't think it is stupid to surmise that rape may not be the ideal way to conceive. And I don't like the dumping on all pro lifers as anti-science morons. Wheatie sperm motility? Do you know that vaginal mucous changes in consistancy during a woman's cycle? That vaginal temperature does the same? Do you know that there are machines that can tell you when you are ovulating by monitoring your urine? And none of that addresses rape any more than your sperm motility. Posted by: typo dynamofo at August 25, 2012 01:05 PM (23Rnf) Like I said, some people think that when's you in a hole youse stop digging. I like yo style .truth will get you to China.

283

and then you dispute those facts.

yes because AFAIK that statistic is based on reported rapes.

 

And them Germans who got pregnant by them ruskies were all whores who enjoyed it.

Posted by: Akin at August 25, 2012 01:00 PM (Q7wUg)

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That's why my grandmother and her sisters were sent up the mountain in WWII when the villagers learned of the advancing Nazi troops. (Italy, after the American invasion began.) Seems like simple peasant villagers had a greater awareness of the consequences of unwelcomed sexual relations than some learned individuals do today.

 

284

Very sad state of affairs.

 

I'm officially depressed. now.

285 http://tinyurl.com/8st3q38

The Chinese auto industry has grown tenfold in the last decade to become the worldÂ’s largest, looking like a formidable challenger to Detroit. But now, the Chinese industry is starting to look more like Detroit in its dark days in the 1980s.

Inventories of unsold cars are soaring at dealerships across the nation, and the Chinese industry’s problems show every sign of growing worse, not better. So many auto factories have opened in China in the last two years that the industry is operating at only about 65 percent of capacity — far below the 80 percent usually needed for profitability.

Shovelin' off to Shanghai.

286 I read that one of the survivors in the Yangmingtan Bridge collapse was a fetus riding in the back of One Child Policy Enforcement Unit van. It's abortion got botched 75' in the air when the bridge collapsed and babies are very bouncy. Barrack Obama called the Chinese Embassy and asked them to leave it in the river until November.

287

Do you know that vaginal mucous changes in consistancy during a woman's cycle? That vaginal temperature does the same? Do you know that there are machines that can tell you when you are ovulating by monitoring your urine? And none of that addresses rape any more than your sperm motility.

 

Posted by: typo dynamofo at August 25, 2012 01:05 PM (23Rnf)

 

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Yeah, I know about those things.

 

So....what you're saying is, that a woman shouldn't leave the house when she is at her most fertile time...unless she has body guards?

She should be monitoring that shit.

There is the technology available now.

 

Yeesh.

Guys that are such fucking experts on the female physiology come across as creepy crotch-sniffers.

But keep digging that hole, mofo.

288 And the material they were using as fill made the construction guys not want to go into chinese buildings any longer.

The designs are fine, its the execution in the field and materials.    That'll wreck a design with even a 50% safety factor.  You just can't substitute recycled tuna can steel when making rebar and I-beams.

289 I wonder if China has them new-fangled ATM thingies, that kill jobs...

290 When I met Yao Ming, I barely resisted the urge to ask him if he had a single sister.

291 You all laughed when Pelosi said that Obamacare would produce tons of jobs. Just think about the need for grave diggers, morticians etc to bury all the elderly, infirm, and crippled that will fail to get treatments. Abortionists (I am renaming them Obortionists) and their support staff will need to bolster their numbers as the procedure is paid for and expanded to after born fetuses. Then the trashmen will need to be bolstered. And because of the economy more women will be aborting than ever....yeeha! Dems are job producers

292 Six major bridges have collapsed in the past 12 months  in China.  The Chinese have almost perfected Keynesianism - you will know they have reached the final level, when the bridge is never even begun.

293

All  this akin shit is chasing alot of us away,

 

enough !!!  bye

294 Reminds me of that Bing Crosby song: Once, I built a railroad.. I made it run, Made it race against time. Once, I built a railroad.. now it's done. Brother, can you spare a dime?

295 Don't kill the job!

296 >as President Boy Genius found out >President Boy Genius >President Boy >Boy Racist.

297 Tofu engineering produces tofu structures, someone said.