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July 03, 2012

Chris Christie: Why Sure, I'd Entertain a Run For Vice President
— Ace

It's my sense this particular star has faded.

He doesn't say he would agree; just that he'd take Romney's call and listen to him.

Um, duh?

"This is an election with one voter, Mitt Romney. He gets to decide who he thinks should be the vice president of the United States," Christie said. "I love being governor of New Jersey, you can tell. But the fact is, if Gov. Romney picks up the phone and calls, you have to answer the call and listen at least."

I'm thinking more Jindal.

Sometimes Christie annoys me, as he did when he asked a reporter if he was "stupid" for asking an off-topic question. He then apologized for "that idiot."

It's not that I give a fig about the reporter's feelings. It's that I don't buy that a governor -- or a president like Obama -- can lay down the law as regards what questions can be asked.

Christie can declare he's only answering on-topic questions -- that's fine, and his right. But when he presumes to order citizens to only ask him questions he's willing to entertain, that demonstrates, to me, a mistaken understanding of the relationship between, as I think Justice Kennedy once said, so long ago, "government and the individual."

Oh, it's not disqualifying in and of itself. It's sort of a "Who cares?" kind of thing. But I don't expect that to play well. It seems gratuitously bossy.

Do I like the fact that he's hostile to the press? Sure. But I don't like the how-dare-you attitude about it.

As far as electoral math: If Romney even has a shot at winning New Jersey with Chris Christie, then Romney doesn't need Chris Christie or New Jersey, because other states (with less steep tipping points) will fall before New Jersey.

Does his brash New Jersey tough-guy persona win voters in other states? I don't know. I think the low-information, disengaged voters we need to win are the sorts of saps who say stupid things like "We need a more civil discourse" and "We need facts not personal attacks" and "We need to be less partisan." All of those safe, question-ducking things -- if you cannot make up your mind about what direction you'd like to see the country go in (in fact, you've never even bothered to think about the question too hard) it's always a nice, safe-sounding cop-out to say you'd like people to "work together" and "reach compromises."

And on that front: I think Christie is a compromiser (which conservatives don't like) but he has the image as a defiant partisan barb-thrower (which the squishy moderate muddleheads don't like).

So I just don't know if I love him for the job.

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1 anybody home?

Posted by: cicero skip at July 03, 2012 12:37 PM (3m9Uc)

2 Looks matter. Jindal is interesting on paper, but he's still nerdy, awkward and too smart for Romney.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at July 03, 2012 12:37 PM (i330i)

Jindal: yes, I really like him.

Rubio: star has faded a bit, but he is still a force to be reckoned with.

McDonnell: if Virginia is close, go with him.

Posted by: Federal Wildlife Babysitter at July 03, 2012 12:37 PM (XCxgL)

4 I like McDonnell, too, but Romney has to be ready to talk about transvaginal ultrasounds then.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at July 03, 2012 12:38 PM (i330i)

5 It's obvious he'd love to join the ticket. But as he said today, "Probably not" gonna happen.

Posted by: Soothsayer, of the Wolverines at July 03, 2012 12:38 PM (G/zuv)

6 GET IN MY BELLY.. I want my baby back, baby back, baby back ribs

Posted by: The Jackhole at July 03, 2012 12:38 PM (nTgAI)

7 I think the low-information, disengaged voters we need to win are the sorts of saps who say stupid things like "We need a more civil discourse" and "We need facts not personal attacks" and "We need to be less partisan."

And "Oh my gosh. I pushed green."

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ pretending to look busy at July 03, 2012 12:39 PM (/kI1Q)

8 My opinion on them is whatever, because you had to stick something up there already to get pregnant.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at July 03, 2012 12:39 PM (i330i)

9 I'm thinking more Jindal. I'm thinking SMOD...

Posted by: cajun carrot at July 03, 2012 12:39 PM (UZQM8)

10 Best Truffle Shuffle in the Republican Party.

Posted by: garrett at July 03, 2012 12:39 PM (V9GJx)

11 7 I think the low-information, disengaged voters we need to win are the sorts of saps who say stupid things like "We need a more civil discourse" and "We need facts not personal attacks" and "We need to be less partisan." And "Oh my gosh. I pushed green." Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ pretending to look busy at July 03, 2012 04:39 PM (/kI1Q) Fucking Moderates, how do they work?

Posted by: cajun carrot at July 03, 2012 12:40 PM (UZQM8)

12 I think Christie is a compromiser (which conservatives don't like)

I'm sick of hearing this. Conservatives aren't against compromise or those that engage in it. What politician / governor, senator, congressman, president has not compromised? It is impossible to engage in politics at any level without ever compromising.

The question is, what do you compromise? Do you compromise for the sake of compromise? Do you always start from half-way to your opponents position and then end up 4/5 to your opponent's position? Of, do you hold firm and get a compromise closer to your own position?

It makes me angry when conservatives, such as Ace, claim that conservatives don't like compromise. Let's use a liberalism and admit it is much more nuanced than that. We don't like republicans who pretend to hold conservative positions but always "compromise" to the liberal position.

Posted by: Monkeytoe at July 03, 2012 12:40 PM (sOx93)

13 Whoever the VP candidate is, he/she needs to eat Biden's lunch.

Big Boy is definitely qualified for the task.

Posted by: Fritz at July 03, 2012 12:40 PM (/ZZCn)

14 I like Jindal more than Christie too. But can we afford to remove a strong GOP governor from any state right now, especially states that were formerly strong democrat strongholds?

Posted by: Drillanwr at July 03, 2012 12:41 PM (W7Xn5)

15 Christie would be a negative on the ticket. Romney + Christie on a national ticket would be just too much for some people in the base to handle, especially after the Court's shenanigans and Ferhnstrom's big stupid mouth.

Posted by: Soothsayer, of the Wolverines at July 03, 2012 12:41 PM (G/zuv)

16 Posted by: Monkeytoe at July 03, 2012 04:40 PM (sOx93) Compromising with liberals, I've found, is like compromising with my wife.

Posted by: cajun carrot at July 03, 2012 12:42 PM (UZQM8)

17 I think Romney should tap someone with experience in Washington and some foreign policy gravitas. Someone like Joe Biden. Yes! Reach out to disaffected blue-dog Dems with Joe Biden! Call him! I'd give you 3 to 1 odds he'd accept! Be sure to tape the call too.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 03, 2012 12:43 PM (C8mVl)

18 Chris Christie in Too Big to Fail. Coming this Fall!

Posted by: Boy's State at July 03, 2012 12:43 PM (evdj2)

Don't see Christie getting the call from Romney.

Romney/Rubio is the ticket I hope for, but I have a feeling Mitt will go bland and safe. Rubio is the future for the GOP.

Posted by: exceller at July 03, 2012 12:43 PM (ROGMG)

20 "We need a more civil discourse" and "We need facts not personal attacks" and "We need to be less partisan." All of those safe, question-ducking things -- if you cannot make up your mind about what direction you'd like to see the country go in (in fact, you've never even bothered to think about the question too hard) it's always a nice, safe-sounding cop-out to say you'd like people to "work together" and "reach compromises."

The problem is that people who say the above actually believe that if everyone tries hard enough and "compromises" we will actually find a way to cut taxes and increase spending. they simply don't understand how math and reality work.

But, part of that is that the press never actually reports facts, it only reports spin. Like when it discusses SS. there are facts as to when it runs out of money, but is never reported that way. It's always as if those facts are in dispute. As if the IOU's the gov't wrote to itself will somehow have actual intrinsic value some day.

Posted by: Monkeytoe at July 03, 2012 12:44 PM (sOx93)

21 2 Looks matter. Jindal is interesting on paper, but he's still nerdy, awkward and too smart for Romney.

Ah, the last gasp of the ABR crowd. Smarter than Romney? Really? You may disagree with his positions, and I really like Jindal (despite his Alfred E. Newman physiognomy) but there are precious few people smarter than Romney. I base that on his academic accomplishments and on his record in business.

Posted by: pep at July 03, 2012 12:44 PM (6TB1Z)

22 I much prefer Jindal to Christie.

Posted by: Scobface at July 03, 2012 12:44 PM (IoNBC)

23 ♪ When I was forty-two It was a very good year It was a very good year for girls who drove Subarus And they hated all the joos The Leftists staged a coup When I was forty-two ♪

Posted by: Soothsayer, of the Wolverines at July 03, 2012 12:45 PM (G/zuv)

24 But when he presumes to order citizens

They aren't citizens. They are the media. They set themselves up as better than we proles.

Maybe it's a portent of other issues with his attitude.

There is a difference with being a governor and that's the media is small and there may be issues with this particular reporter and Christie.

I still agree with you, Ace. Christie plays well in NY/NJ, but not otherwise.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 03, 2012 12:45 PM (T0NGe)

25 I don't care for Chris Christie, he called me a "POS cunt".

Posted by: Baracka Roberts at July 03, 2012 12:45 PM (HTtsu)

26 Compromising with liberals, I've found, is like compromising with my wife.

Perhaps. But it does not mean that conservatives are against the very idea of compromise. Just the idea that the GOP uses the concept of compromise to sell out conservative values every single time.

Posted by: Monkeytoe at July 03, 2012 12:45 PM (sOx93)

27 His act is already tired. Can you imagine how tired it would be if he were VP. He's Billy Carter, without the beer as an excuse.

Posted by: Pastorius at July 03, 2012 12:45 PM (G6/cJ)

28 No Chris Christie? Ace, you're worse than Hitler.

Posted by: Dr Spank at July 03, 2012 12:45 PM (Ou1jg)

29 Christie = Pretty good for New Jersey

Christie = Rude, NJ Attitude as VP, not so much.

Posted by: © Sponge at July 03, 2012 12:46 PM (UK9cE)

30 Dick Cheney's not busy. And with Trayvon's heart, he's good for at least twenty years.

Posted by: Boy's State at July 03, 2012 12:46 PM (evdj2)

Posted by: Pastorius at July 03, 2012 04:45 PM (G6/cJ)

this

Posted by: The Dude at July 03, 2012 12:47 PM (tw6Ar)

32 Posted by: Drillanwr at July 03, 2012 04:41 PM (W7Xn5) I want West, I want someone that has absolutely no problem eating a Dem Minorities lunch every time they get uppity. Also because I want lamentation, and tears. Another plus is his military experience. Just in case the ME Powder Keg pops and Romney is shitting his pants.

Posted by: cajun carrot at July 03, 2012 12:47 PM (UZQM8)

33 Fuck the fat man RINO. We already have one running, we don't need another fucking Roberts as VP.

Posted by: maddogg at July 03, 2012 12:47 PM (OlN4e)

34 I'm tanned, rested, and whacko.

Posted by: Christine O. at July 03, 2012 12:47 PM (MMC8r)

35 Smarter than Romney? Really? You may disagree with his positions, and I really like Jindal (despite his Alfred E. Newman physiognomy) but there are precious few people smarter than Romney.

Ahem.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 03, 2012 12:47 PM (T0NGe)

36 Frankly, I find discussion of who is going to be picked for Veep about as boring as talk of who will be picked where and when in the NFL draft, but I'd be shocked if it isn't Rubio.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 03, 2012 12:48 PM (TOk1P)

I really don't care who Mitt picks as his VP.

A sea cucumber would be preferable to Ol' Slow Joe.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 03, 2012 12:48 PM (d0Tfm)

38
The thing I LIKE about Christie is he's not not afraid to bitch slap some poor sap who desperately deserves it.

I DONT LIKE some of his squishy positions on the issues.

Posted by: fixerupper at July 03, 2012 12:48 PM (C8hzL)

39 [i[]They aren't citizens. They are the media. They set themselves up as better than we proles.

Yup. I don't care for gratuitous rudeness by government officials to citizens, unless they're, you know, asking for it (e.g. teacher's union flacks). But most folks view it as an unalloyed good when some reporter gets publicly pantsed. Those fools really seem to have no idea just how unpopular they are.

Posted by: pep at July 03, 2012 12:48 PM (6TB1Z)

40 " Smarter than Romney? Really? " Romney not wanting to discuss specifics, something both liberal and conservative pundits agree on, isn't bashing Romney but just being real. Jindal is a wonk and Romney has no use for those.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at July 03, 2012 12:48 PM (i330i)

41 it's true, Gov Jindal does look Alfred E Newmanish

Posted by: Soothsayer, of the Wolverines at July 03, 2012 12:48 PM (G/zuv)

Chris Christie : Big Pants, Big Tent

Posted by: Anne Coulter at July 03, 2012 12:48 PM (V9GJx)

43 31 Posted by: Pastorius at July 03, 2012 04:45 PM (G6/cJ) this Posted by: The Dude at July 03, 2012 04:47 PM (tw6Ar) Seconded...

Posted by: cajun carrot at July 03, 2012 12:48 PM (UZQM8)

44 Mmmm, four years of non-stop fat jokes from both sides.

Whaleageddon.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 03, 2012 12:49 PM (ccXZP)

45 Sue Martinez, 4 for the win

Posted by: Jean at July 03, 2012 12:49 PM (WkuV6)

46 Ahem.

Well yes, that was a given.

Posted by: pep at July 03, 2012 12:49 PM (6TB1Z)

47 Rand Paul. That is all.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 03, 2012 12:49 PM (f9c2L)

48 got money on Jeb being the VP, gunna be funny

Posted by: The Dude at July 03, 2012 12:50 PM (tw6Ar)

49 Tony Romo is in the Top 5 for VP.

Posted by: USA Today at July 03, 2012 12:50 PM (evdj2)

50 but there are precious few people smarter than Romney. I base that on his academic accomplishments and on his record in business.

Posted by: pep at July 03, 2012 04:44 PM (6TB1Z)

Not to get into a debate about the merits of Romney, but his academic accomplishments hardly put him in the upper stratosphere of intelligence, and there are plenty of successful business people who are not all that smart. they may be smart at what they do, have a talent at what they do, are creative, or clever, etc., but not intelligent in the way you are talking about here.

I'm not saying Romney is not smart - I'm sure he is very intelligent. But let's not start talking about him as some kind of genius. If making money means you are in the top of all intelligence, then I guess most of Hollywood is brilliant.

Posted by: Monkeytoe at July 03, 2012 12:50 PM (sOx93)

51 I'll tell you a stir the pot VP nominee: Allan West. He is the color that is in this year and he would satisfy a large number of conservatives.

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 03, 2012 12:50 PM (Hx5uv)

What are the primary considerations when picking a VP ?

The Romney campaign has been pretty smart so far. I wonder if the will pick someone who can help them win a key state, someone who adds a little diversity to the ticket, an effective attack dog ?

Posted by: The Jackhole at July 03, 2012 12:51 PM (nTgAI)

53 14 I like Jindal more than Christie too. But can we afford to remove a strong GOP governor from any state right now, especially states that were formerly strong democrat strongholds?

YES.

Louisiana's Republican party is pretty well established in the state now while the Dems are uneven at best, which is why nearly all statewide offices are now Republican.

The damage done to the New Orleans machine by Katrina has seriously wounded the Dems because they can't just have the "graveyard vote" put them over the top anymore.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at July 03, 2012 12:51 PM (e0xKF)

54 If a white man is to be chosen, it can only be Rand Paul. But my leftnut is still on a non-white man or woman.

Posted by: Soothsayer, of the Wolverines at July 03, 2012 12:51 PM (G/zuv)

55 Well, if "compromise" means "the left gets what it wants and we get nothing and like it," then yes, I don't like compromise. Also, "conservatives" seem to have no idea that you don't ask for what you want, you ask for more than what you want, so you can get closer to what you want. We ask for a reasonable compromise, they ask for a communist dictatorship, so we get socialism. Until we go bankrupt.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 03, 2012 12:51 PM (bxiXv)

got money on Jeb being the VP, gunna be funny

OK, go ahead and give me your money. His brother just ruined any chance Jeb had of being nominated (via Robbertz), thank goodness.

Mitt has to be smarter than that.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 03, 2012 12:52 PM (d0Tfm)

57 55, Soothsayer - so Sue Maritinez is best for your nuts

Posted by: Jean at July 03, 2012 12:52 PM (WkuV6)

58 The damage done to the New Orleans machine by Katrina has seriously wounded the Dems because they can't just have the "graveyard vote" put them over the top anymore.

Mrs. O'Leary's cow...where are you when we really need you?

Posted by: AmishDude at July 03, 2012 12:53 PM (T0NGe)

59 47 Rand Paul. That is all. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 03, 2012 04:49 PM (f9c2L) Are you fucking shitting me? Don't get me wrong, I'm prolly more Libertarian than Conservative but that dude is a fucking moron. He made Libertarians look like idiots, and a lot of the fringe didn't help either. I'm all for getting out of other people's shit, but I'm not going to back someone who's going to do it because he's a Jew Hater.

Posted by: cajun carrot at July 03, 2012 12:53 PM (UZQM8)

I'm with Sponge on this. Christie is GREAT for New Jersey, but he simply isn't VP material, temperamentally or otherwise. And he's only been Governor for a little over two years - not enough expericne to be comfortable with him as President if anything happened to Romney. That last is the same issue I have with Bob McDonnell, who I also adore as Governor. Picking either would neutralize the argument that Obama was unqualified to be President.

Right now I am leaning toward Portman. He has Washington experience, he is a budget expert, and he is very popular in Ohio and could really help deliver the state to Romney. Ohio has a GOP governor who would appoint his replacement, so we won't lose a Senate seat.

Posted by: rockmom at July 03, 2012 12:53 PM (NYnoe)

61 Oh, the Colbert jokes write themselves. Romney-McDonnell: Transvaginal Equestrian Penetration to Become an Olympic Sport.

Posted by: wooga at July 03, 2012 12:53 PM (vjyZP)

62
59 What about that chick governor from Alaska?

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Please..... Do.not.poke.the.Ewok.

Posted by: fixerupper at July 03, 2012 12:54 PM (C8hzL)

63 I'd also entertain another Boston Cream Donut.

Posted by: Chris Christie at July 03, 2012 12:54 PM (V9GJx)

64 He'll choose Portman ( once you go White, you never go back )

Posted by: Wally in Walla Walla at July 03, 2012 12:54 PM (Dll6b)

65 Mitt has to be smarter than that.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 03, 2012 04:52 PM (d0Tfm)

lol

Posted by: The Dude at July 03, 2012 12:54 PM (tw6Ar)

66 152 It Must be Rubio. Posted by: soothsayer at May 30, 2012 08:38 PM (KUrJA)

Posted by: Soothsayer, of the Wolverines at July 03, 2012 12:54 PM (G/zuv)

I'm thinking more Jindal.

Why is everyone taunting Happy Fun Alex?

Posted by: alexthechick at July 03, 2012 12:54 PM (VtjlW)

68 64, OK then, there's this witch from Deleware

Posted by: Jean at July 03, 2012 12:54 PM (WkuV6)

69 I'm not busy.

Posted by: Jesse 'The Bonehead' Ventura at July 03, 2012 12:55 PM (MMC8r)

70 Since Slow Joe has proven the VP is a vestigial appendage Can't we just pick some hot chick?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 03, 2012 12:55 PM (tf9Ne)

"I'm thinking more Jindal."

Yeah, me too, although I'm thinking Romney would be leery of selecting a veep candidate with anything approaching star quality. Jindal might outshine him on a shared stage and--from what I've seen--Romney and his people abhor anyone and anything that might somehow take the spotlight off the candidate. For example, during the primaries Romney engaged a debate coach, Brett O'Donnell, prior to the Florida debates. Romney's debate performance was so dramatically improved after O'Donnell's work with him that O'Donnell received a significant amount of press attention for Romney's dramatic turnaround, and was subsequently fired for it.

This is not the kind of thinking that lends itself to an inspired VP choice, so I think we'll get stuck with the blandest piece of whitebread imaginable.

Hello, Tom Pawlenty, you little firecracker you.

Posted by: troyriser at July 03, 2012 12:55 PM (vtiE6)

72 52 What are the primary considerations when picking a VP ?
The Romney campaign has been pretty smart so far. I wonder if the will pick someone who can help them win a key state, someone who adds a little diversity to the ticket, an effective attack dog ?

In the case of this election:

1. A non-controversial choice as not to rock the boat. Romney's doing well, so there's no need to go for a game-changer like Palin was for McCain.

2. A conservative to reassure the base. Romney's being supported because he's not Obama, but conservatives would like assurances that they won't be ignored.

3. A competent 2nd banana to show a contrast to Obama having Biden as impeachment insurance. A smart #2 capable of running things if necessary will be a stark contrast to the clown that is Sheriff Joe.

Jindal meets all of these things.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at July 03, 2012 12:55 PM (e0xKF)

But my leftnut is still on a non-white man or woman.

You visiting Thailand or Brazil this time?

Posted by: garrett at July 03, 2012 12:55 PM (V9GJx)

74 51 I'll tell you a stir the pot VP nominee: Allan West. He is the color that is in this year and he would satisfy a large number of conservatives. Posted by: WalrusRex This +1000 I love Allan West. I don't care what color his skin is, he is smart, accomplished, understands war and peace, and loves his country. And then I would love to see him as president, after his tenure as VP. That would be awesome.

Posted by: moki at July 03, 2012 12:56 PM (dZmFh)

75 In before Vic declares Jindal isn't eligible because his parents weren't born in the US.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 03, 2012 12:56 PM (eJkKU)

76 Martinez is probably high, like top 5, on the short list. But I'm pretty certain, and my leftnut concurs, that it's gonna be Rubio.

Posted by: Soothsayer, of the Wolverines at July 03, 2012 12:56 PM (G/zuv)

77 Watch my lips: The VP doesn't really matter

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 03, 2012 12:56 PM (05RcU)

78 at 32 I gotta agree with cajun on this one. I like West. He can take it to the idiot dems and the military experience is a big plus.

Posted by: Infidel at July 03, 2012 12:56 PM (O/fK8)

79 Perhaps. But it does not mean that conservatives are against the very idea of compromise. Just the idea that the GOP uses the concept of compromise to sell out conservative values every single time. Posted by: Monkeytoe at July 03, 2012 04:45 PM (sOx93) I agree, sometimes we've gotta bite a shit sandwich to placate some moderates to get what we want, and sometimes a Dem may just push the green button for us. But our current batch of Pubs are giving away the fucking farm for nothing. That is why you probably hear alot about conservatives not wanting to compromise... in truth, we are tired of getting shit on by our own party. And because of course, we are evil conservatives that hate all things.

Posted by: cajun carrot at July 03, 2012 12:56 PM (UZQM8)

80 Christie would be effective as VP but with one Noreaster on the ticket I think Mittens will need to go JFK and choose someone Southerners can relate to. Who that is I haven't a clue but its not Jindal. Christie was all 'No I need to finish what I started in NJ'. Hmm Maybe Corey Booker will turn red and tell the DNC to KHA then run for governor.

Posted by: Sonnyspats at July 03, 2012 12:57 PM (Qr9Rc)

81 71 I'm not busy.

Posted by: Jesse 'The Bonehead' Ventura at July 03, 2012 04:55 PM (MMC8r)

Me Neither.

Posted by: Carl "Not Kony" Weathers at July 03, 2012 12:57 PM (vjyZP)

82 and Romney is heap plenty smart------ make Big Medicine in wig-wams

Posted by: Wally in Walla Walla at July 03, 2012 12:57 PM (Dll6b)

83 He is rather mannish.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 03, 2012 12:57 PM (Ow4EQ)

84 Joe Biden.

Confuse the hell out of 'em.

Posted by: nickless at July 03, 2012 12:57 PM (MMC8r)

85
Whoever Romney picks for the V.P. slot there's going to be at least one debate with Joe "Higgs Boson Brain" Biden.

Posted by: YIKES! at July 03, 2012 12:57 PM (1e9m1)

86 Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 03, 2012 04:49 PM (f9c2L) Shit I'm sorry I read that as Ron...

Posted by: cajun carrot at July 03, 2012 12:58 PM (UZQM8)

87 Cory. Booker.

Posted by: BlackOrchid-TeamDagny at July 03, 2012 12:58 PM (J6kXj)

88 damn Sonnyspats beat me to it!

Posted by: BlackOrchid-TeamDagny at July 03, 2012 12:58 PM (J6kXj)

89 I think he should pick Sarah Palin!! She's been vetted! Seriously though I would want him to pick Paul RyaN

Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 03, 2012 12:58 PM (K2wSZ)

90 86 Joe Biden. Confuse the hell out of 'em. Posted by: nickless New keyboard, monitor cleaner needed. Diet coke through the nose really hurts.

Posted by: moki at July 03, 2012 12:59 PM (dZmFh)

91 btw I saw that vid and still loving the fat man over the idiot NJ reporter. Come on, really? Are we still trying for the Lady Bing over here?

Posted by: BlackOrchid-TeamDagny at July 03, 2012 12:59 PM (J6kXj)

Low information voters?

I sat with a woman watching Fox News last night. She asked "What's 'Fast and Furious?"" She didn't know that Holder was being charged with contempt of Congress.

And this is a woman who watch 6 hours of TV a day!

Posted by: Whitehall at July 03, 2012 12:59 PM (FmPSC)

93 I'm not busy.

Posted by: Jesse 'The Bonehead' Ventura>>

Does this mean the crazy conspiracy theory book tour is already over?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 03, 2012 12:59 PM (tf9Ne)

94 NJ is still ranked the 5th worst state in business friendliness -- I'm sure that would be a big selling point on the campaign trail.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 03, 2012 12:59 PM (ccXZP)

95 Ooh I have a good one: Beau Biden. Now THAT would be confusing!

Posted by: BlackOrchid-TeamDagny at July 03, 2012 12:59 PM (J6kXj)

96 >>>I'm thinking more Jindal.

I'm with you on that one so far. I became a little disillusioned with Rubio when he failed to come out hard against using executive order to implement DREAM.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at July 03, 2012 01:00 PM (0q2P7)

97 My fab five: 1 Sue Martinez, 2 Portman, 3 Jindal, 4 Christie, 5 Adm McRaven My Fear Five: 1 Huntsman, 2 Leavitt, 3 Dr Rice, 4 Rubio, 5 McCain

Posted by: Jean at July 03, 2012 01:00 PM (WkuV6)

98 Tanned, rested and ready.

Posted by: Colin Powell at July 03, 2012 01:00 PM (V9GJx)

99 I like West. He can take it to the idiot dems and the military experience is a big plus.

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Plus a West/Biden debate would be an epic beat down.

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 03, 2012 01:00 PM (Hx5uv)

100 Dick Cheney's not busy. And with Trayvon's heart, he's good for at least twenty years.

Posted by: Boy's State at July 03, 2012 04:46 PM (evdj2)

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LOL!! Love it!

Posted by: Soona at July 03, 2012 01:00 PM (Qvc8d)

101 You joke, but I think you're on to something. Romney should find some guy named Obama and put him on the ticket.

Posted by: Soothsayer, of the Wolverines at July 03, 2012 01:00 PM (G/zuv)

102 OT - Important Chimpanzee News:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/d85dyf7

Posted by: Waterhouse at July 03, 2012 01:00 PM (MySKM)

103 I guess it'll have to be a non-Catholic, non-Mormom Southern Christian in order to appease certain anti-religionists, hmm?

Posted by: BlackOrchid-TeamDagny at July 03, 2012 01:01 PM (J6kXj)

104 98, Its Jersey, not sure any governor could get it above 10

Posted by: Jean at July 03, 2012 01:01 PM (WkuV6)

105 "What about that chick governor from Alaska?"
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I'd love it, but no.

But I'll tell you what: if the GOP somehow wins *and* then manages to f_ck everything up (by, say, NOT repealing ObamaTax) once again, then maybe I'll stop giving a rat's ass about whether or not candidates like the ex-governor chick can win.

It'll be too late, but if I do have to get ground into dust by ObamaTax at least I can tell the GOP to go f*ck itself at the same time.

Posted by: Kensington at July 03, 2012 01:01 PM (/AHDz)

106
Condoleezza Rice

Posted by: Guy who always boets on the long shots. at July 03, 2012 01:01 PM (C8hzL)

107 My Fear Five: 1 Huntsman, 2 Leavitt, 3 Dr Rice, 4 Rubio, 5 McCain

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If Meghan's dad gets the nod, I'm going to have to throw myself off the Empire State Building.

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 03, 2012 01:02 PM (Hx5uv)

108

Chimpanzee.

The original face eater.

Accept no substitute.

Posted by: garrett at July 03, 2012 01:02 PM (V9GJx)

109

Just to give you an idea of what we're up against when it comes to NJ voters in general...One of the ladies in my office thought that the 10% tanning tax was put in place because of the NJ lady that bought her little girl to a tanning salon. So DO NOT put any kind of hope in turning NJ into a battle ground state for Romney. This fuckin joint is too far in deep and on the dole our poorest of poor live like Charlie Sheen on holiday in Amsterdam.

Christie is ok for NJ, He won't play well to the rest of the country.

Posted by: dananjcon at July 03, 2012 01:02 PM (eavT+)

110 Which McCain?

Posted by: Soothsayer, of the Wolverines at July 03, 2012 01:02 PM (G/zuv)

111 IRS officials on background tell FOX Business the U.S. Supreme Court ruling on health reform gives the IRS even more powers than previously understood.

The IRS now gets to know about a small businessÂ’s entire payroll, the level of their insurance coverage Â— and it gets to know the income of not just the primary breadwinner in your house, but your entire familyÂ’s income, in order to assess/collect the mandated tax.

Plus, it gets to share your personal info with all sorts of government agencies, insurance companies and employers.

And thatÂ’s just the tip of the iceberg. Â“We expect even more lien and levy powers,Â” an IRS official says. Even the Taxpayer Advocate is deeply concerned.

Posted by: Pretty Boy Floyd at July 03, 2012 01:02 PM (e8kgV)

112

@76

I'm still hoping for Allan West, too.

He has a huge following across the country.....it would be a hat-tip to the Tea Party, and to our military...if Romney were to pick Allan West.

No other VP pick would be a better signal to 'the folks' that he will, in fact, repeal ObamaCare.

Picking a squish will not win Romney any new votes.

He already has the Squish Vote.

Posted by: wheatie at July 03, 2012 01:02 PM (MbB0O)

113 Portman.

Natalie Portman.

Posted by: Kensington at July 03, 2012 01:03 PM (/AHDz)

114 I like Christie but he is way too Rino.. Romney has to pick a solid conservative. Plus NJ is never going to Romney so.. doesnt help. Rubio... Ryan... or Gov of Virginia. it will be someone like that. IMO

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at July 03, 2012 01:03 PM (DGIjM)

115 >>>Plus a West/Biden debate

You could sell tickets and $15 buckets of popcorn at that. Hell I'd record it just to watch it again and again whenever I felt sad.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at July 03, 2012 01:03 PM (0q2P7)

116 Remember that any GOP veep candidate has to have at least 3 times the experience that a Dem POTUS candidate would have to have. And if you pick a woman, make sure she's not good-looking and pre-menopausal. Because the media people hate women who are smarter than they are but still as good-looking as they are. It's not FAIR.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 03, 2012 01:03 PM (C8mVl)

117 And this is a woman who watch 6 hours of TV a day!

Posted by: Whitehall at July 03, 2012 04:59 PM (FmPSC)

That probably explains alot. I haven't watched six hours of television in the past three months combined.

Posted by: Federal Wildlife Babysitter at July 03, 2012 01:03 PM (XCxgL)

118

What does this mean?

43 31
Posted by: Pastorius at July 03, 2012 04:45 PM (G6/cJ)

this
Posted by: The Dude at July 03, 2012 04:47 PM (tw6Ar)

Seconded...

Posted by: Pastorius at July 03, 2012 01:03 PM (G6/cJ)

119 "Dick Cheney's not busy. And with Trayvon's heart, he's good for at least twenty years."
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Outstanding!

Posted by: Kensington at July 03, 2012 01:03 PM (/AHDz)

120 106 Kelly Ayottee - New Hampshire Senator

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at July 03, 2012 05:00 PM (OWjjx)

Meh...I read something discouraging on her as well. Don't ask me what my brain has been mush since thursday.

Posted by: dananjcon at July 03, 2012 01:03 PM (eavT+)

121 "I'm thinking more Jindal."

Seriously? No way.

1. Boring. Romney is already boring, he doesn't need another boring guy.
2. So, Jindal delivers what, Louisiana? No.
3. Chris Christie choice means CC can play attack dog while Romney plays Statesman.
4. Christie is over 50% in frickin NJ.
5. Christie does what Conservatives have been begging for for years - kicks ass.
6. With Christie over 50% in NJ could CC deliver NJ? Possibly.

CC's biggest issue is going to be with women. Women see him as gruff and, well, fat. My sister and mother, both strong conservatives don't like him for that reason. At the same time he really appeals to men for the same reason.

Why do I think CC has the inside shot? He had his head up Romney's backside long before anyone else. CC always denied POTUS talk saying he wasn't ready so we KNOW if Christie says "maybe" he means, yeah this could be happening.

Christie is the anti-Obama. He's fat, he isn't slick or good looking and he doesn't pander.

I think he has a better than 50% shot at it.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at July 03, 2012 01:04 PM (hlUJY)

122 So FY;NQ is now acronym non grata?

Posted by: andycanuck at July 03, 2012 01:04 PM (nrW1y)

123 The thought of Allen West as the VP makes my knees weak.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at July 03, 2012 01:04 PM (DGIjM)

124 Egypt's new government is sparking growing outrage in the U.S. for its attempts to win the release of Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, the blind cleric behind the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center. In Cairo, President-elect Mohamed Morsi proclaimed to hundreds of thousands of supporters in Tahir Square on Friday that he will gain the release of Rahman, who is in a federal prison in North Carolina after having been convicted of masterminding the bombing that killed six and unsuccessfully plotting to blow up other landmarks, including the United Nations. Although a U.S. official told FoxNews.com the sheik will never be freed, the fact that Egypt's newly-installed Muslim Brotherhood government is asking has top elected officials here seething. And the hits just keep on coming under obama. And these brotherhood guys are his pals remember

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 03, 2012 01:04 PM (05RcU)

125 Romney / Christie = white NE moderate + white NE moderate = FAIL. I enjoy Christie's press conferences but I think NJ Gov is a great spot for him. I think Romney's running mate needs to be a Tea Party econ/security conservative type from the south or west. Extra melanin or X chromosomes are a plus but not necessary. Personally, Allen West is my first choice but I doubt Romney wants that much controversy on his ticket.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at July 03, 2012 01:05 PM (jts1f)

126 Off, mandate loving sock!

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 03, 2012 01:05 PM (XCxgL)

127 >>>"What about that chick governor from Alaska?"

The one that failed to rehabilitate her public image in four years time? Pass.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at July 03, 2012 01:05 PM (0q2P7)

128 Chris Christie, giving William Howard Taft a run for fattest elected to the Executive Branch? Selecting Portman would have the possible benefit of having typical DemocRat voters thinking they're 'pulling the lever' for Natalie Portman, not Rob Portman.(Cuz we know they're THAT STOOPID.

Posted by: Live Free Or Die at July 03, 2012 01:05 PM (kZS1a)

129 The IRS now gets to know about a small businessÂ’s entire payroll, the level of their insurance coverage Â— and it gets to know the income of not just the primary breadwinner in your house, but your entire familyÂ’s income, in order to assess/collect the mandated tax. Posted by: Pretty Boy Floyd at July 03, 2012 05:02 PM (e8kgV) Yup, that Roberts did some real fucking judicial ninjitsu...

Posted by: cajun carrot at July 03, 2012 01:06 PM (UZQM8)

130 I support Kate Upton for VP. That way, if Romney betrays the right, it will still be palatable. " . . .And so for these reasons, we must raise taxes. And now let's watch the Vice President dance in a skimpy bikini."

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 03, 2012 01:06 PM (Hx5uv)

131 I like Christie in NJ, just like I like burning landfills, outlandish real estate taxes, outraged teacher unions, and hypodermic needle strewn beaches in NJ. He has a job to do there, and I'd hate to see him bail before it's finished. Romney can do better.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at July 03, 2012 01:06 PM (phlKA)

132 Natalie Portman. She could steal the election for Mitt

Posted by: Jean at July 03, 2012 01:06 PM (WkuV6)

133 Release the Obama / Khalidi Sex Tape - LA Times!

Posted by: garrett at July 03, 2012 01:06 PM (V9GJx)

134 Plus a West/Biden debate would be an epic beat down. Posted by: WalrusRex at July 03, 2012 05:00 PM (Hx5uv) While all of America would enjoy it, ain't no f'ing way the Dems are going to let Joe BFD Biden debate...

Posted by: cajun carrot at July 03, 2012 01:07 PM (UZQM8)

135 There once was a man from New Jersey Who fancied a female Guernsey You may find him now Under the cow He mistook the cow for his Nursery

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 03, 2012 01:07 PM (Ow4EQ)

136 The one that failed to rehabilitate her public image in four years time? Pass. I like her image, you like skinny chicks?

Posted by: Jean at July 03, 2012 01:07 PM (WkuV6)

137 Egypt's new government is sparking growing outrage in the U.S. for its attempts to win the release of Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman>>

I'm ok with releasing the sheik to Egypt. Out the back of a C130 at 25,000 feet.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 03, 2012 01:08 PM (tf9Ne)

138 What I will like most about Rubio on the ticket will be watching the Democrats insult and berate him, thus alienating all those latino voters. Either they won't vote or they'll vote for Mitt.

Posted by: Soothsayer, of the Wolverines at July 03, 2012 01:08 PM (G/zuv)

139 Allen West would be my dream pick... I wonder if Romney would consider him? That sure would seal the deal with tea party conservatives.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at July 03, 2012 01:09 PM (DGIjM)

140 Chris Christie is a lightning rod...blob.

Posted by: sTevo at July 03, 2012 01:09 PM (VMcEw)

141 I would love Allen West but, paradoxically, he would be a poor choice. To most people, West is unknown and the sudden arrival of him as Mittens' VP choice would have the MSM spinning "token black" stories into outer space all the way to Election Day.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at July 03, 2012 01:09 PM (zpqa2)

142 >>>The thought of Allen West as the VP makes my knees weak.

It makes me want to donate time and money to the campaign. Mittens as President meh; West telling minority leader Reid to sit down and shut up as President of the Senate, instant Schadenboner

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at July 03, 2012 01:09 PM (0q2P7)

143 The Democrats really can't afford to insult the first Latino veep on a national ticket. Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

Posted by: Soothsayer, of the Wolverines at July 03, 2012 01:09 PM (G/zuv)

144 Emotionally, I like the idea of Jindal on the ticket until I put more than about 30 seconds of thought into it:

1. VP is a do nothing job. Why waste Jindal for 4 to 8 years doing absolutely nothing.

2. Since 1900, any VP that has not taken office during their term goes on to political oblivion except for 2 (Nixon and George HW Bush). The position generally means the end of your political career.

3. Mary Landrieu's (D-LA) Senate seat is up for election in 2014. Jindal can take that seat and knock a Democrat out of the Senate rather than sitting on his thumb in the VP seat in Washington.

4. Jindal has said he doesn't want it and won't accept it if offered.

Posted by: crosspatch at July 03, 2012 01:10 PM (ZbLJZ)

145 It makes me want to donate time and money to the campaign. Mittens as President meh; West telling minority leader Reid to sit down and shut up as President of the Senate, instant Schadenboner Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at July 03, 2012 05:09 PM (0q2P7) swoon....

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at July 03, 2012 01:10 PM (DGIjM)

146 What I will like most about Rubio on the ticket will be watching the Democrats insult and berate him, thus alienating all those latino voters.

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Ummm.... yeah.....about that.

Posted by: Alberto Gonzalez at July 03, 2012 01:10 PM (C8hzL)

147 Ooooooooo, Ahhhhhhhhh, Yes,yes,yes, oh! That's it, yeah-yeah-yeah....Don't stop, baby I'm almost there...

Posted by: A. Coulter at July 03, 2012 01:10 PM (a1oOO)

148

130.....Personally, Allen West is my first choice but I doubt Romney wants that much controversy on his ticket.

Well....you would think, at this point, that Romney would love to throw out something 'controversial' like that.....to draw attention away from Bain and ObamaCare.

It would be smart.

Posted by: wheatie at July 03, 2012 01:10 PM (MbB0O)

149 In other words, and this is the beauty part, Rubio serves as a third-rail.

Posted by: Soothsayer, of the Wolverines at July 03, 2012 01:11 PM (G/zuv)

150 139 Plus a West/Biden debate would be an epic beat down.
Posted by: WalrusRex at July 03, 2012 05:00 PM (Hx5uv)

While all of America would enjoy it, ain't no f'ing way the Dems are going to let Joe BFD Biden debate...

Depending on how the polls look going into the election, the Dems may be desperate to get Obama into a debate with Mitt so he can claim victory. Mitt's camp can demand at least one VP debate as part of the negotiations.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at July 03, 2012 01:11 PM (e0xKF)

151 the MSM spinning "token black" stories into outer space all the way to Election Day. Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at July 03, 2012 05:09 PM (zpqa2) They have a spin ready for w/e VP we pick. I say go for broke...

Posted by: cajun carrot at July 03, 2012 01:11 PM (UZQM8)

152 109 Jean, NJ moved up two spots to 45th from 2011 to 2012; LA moved up 14 spots to 13 from 27.

Big advantage Jindal -- plus proof that big changes can occur rather quickly in business climate under good leadership.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 03, 2012 01:11 PM (ccXZP)

153 >>>West is unknown
>>>the MSM spinning "token black" stories

But then West would get known, and as that buzzsaw cut into team Dem, it would be clear to even the most casual observer there ain't nothing token about Allen West.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at July 03, 2012 01:11 PM (0q2P7)

154 The people have spoken and they wanted a moderate candidate for president. Nominating such a polarizing figure as Chris Christie would be a huge mistake.

Posted by: JP McCullen at July 03, 2012 01:11 PM (7+pP9)

155

Posted by: Pastorius at July 03, 2012 05:03 PM (G6/cJ)

means we agree with you

Posted by: The Dude at July 03, 2012 01:11 PM (tw6Ar)

156 If Romney wants to give Biden a run for his money in the debates he'll need to make a play for somebody like Tonya Harding or maybe Gary the Retard.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at July 03, 2012 01:12 PM (+lsX1)

157
Instead of a debate withe Biden, why not stick a mirror in front of slow Joe so he'll puff himself up, scream at his reflection and peck at it.

Posted by: YIKES! at July 03, 2012 01:12 PM (1e9m1)

158 I LOVE Rubio for VP!

Posted by: Vicente Fox at July 03, 2012 01:12 PM (a1oOO)

159 OT but Bob Beckel is the most shameless hack on TV, he doesn't even try to finesse it a bit. Just full blown hackery on display. Contradicts himself from one sentence to the next. I know there is an opinion that arguements draw viewers but jeebus is he really the best FOX could do?

Posted by: Finn McCool at July 03, 2012 01:12 PM (R/8dI)

160 Me too!

Posted by: J. McCain at July 03, 2012 01:13 PM (a1oOO)

161 Ya know.. Allen West is a fighter.. he would be the perfect bomb throwing VP pick. He takes no shit.. and I cant see Obama/Biden landing any punches on him.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at July 03, 2012 01:13 PM (DGIjM)

162 My problem with West is the same as with Rubio and Rand Paul: we need all the solid conservative votes in Congress we can get, at least until ObamaCare goes down in flames. I'm not a big Jindal fan, but at least he doesn't have that downside.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 03, 2012 01:13 PM (tqwMN)

163 Me three!

Posted by: L. Graham at July 03, 2012 01:14 PM (a1oOO)

164 (I'm aware Rubio's not so solid on immigration, by the way, but I don't doubt him on ObamaCare).

Posted by: Ian S. at July 03, 2012 01:14 PM (tqwMN)

165 dark horses: Adm McRaven, Petraus, Rudy, Rand Paul, some Business guy

Posted by: Jean at July 03, 2012 01:14 PM (WkuV6)

166 >>>conservative votes in Congress we can get,

I'll agree with the Senators. I think the House could spare West to be President of the Senate.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at July 03, 2012 01:15 PM (0q2P7)

167 Re 129 / Rahman / Morsi / Obama What an outrageous outrage that would be. No way before the election but what about afterwards when Obama is "more flexible?" I would think that impossible until I remember them backing the release al-Megrahi to Qaddafi. I hope Obama understands that releasing Rahman would be so far beyond the pale that direct action would be inevitable.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at July 03, 2012 01:15 PM (jts1f)

168 I dream of the DREAM Act!

Posted by: Jeb B. at July 03, 2012 01:16 PM (a1oOO)

169 @61 Rand, not Ron. Rand, not Ron. Rand, not Ron. Don't confuse the two.

Posted by: robert.mcmanamy@ni.com at July 03, 2012 01:16 PM (S5Fgg)

170 it actually would be interesting in having RomneyCare and DREAM Act on the GOP ticket

Posted by: The Dude at July 03, 2012 01:17 PM (tw6Ar)

171 169

Unknown is OK. Unknown and black makes Mittens look opportunistic.

I like West. He'd pick up some votes but he would also cost some. Other picks would net more votes.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at July 03, 2012 01:17 PM (zpqa2)

172 I don't have a fave for VP, but from interviews and speeches I've seen West give, he's actually an intelligent, knowledgeable, incredibly well-spoken, principled, take no prisoners person. I don't mean to bring race into it, but if we're comparing black/half-black guys, Obama the stutterer without his TOTUS binky doesn't hold a candle to him. The only thing is that he's not at all a shrinking violet and will speak his mind. I don't know if the Romney campaign would want that.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at July 03, 2012 01:17 PM (m95KA)

173 I'm still available for the VP slot.

Posted by: Warm Bucket Of Spit at July 03, 2012 01:18 PM (kZS1a)

174

I like Rubio....I really do.

But he has screwed the pooch lately, with all his talk about his own version of the Dream Act.

Romney would lose a lot of votes, with Rubio.

Romney's dad was born in Mexico.

If he needs to appeal to Latinos....then he can keep bringing that up.

Having Rubio on the ticket means that we've got two people, whose parents weren't born here.

How about trying to appeal to those of us whose ancestors have been paying taxes and dying for their country....for generations?

Posted by: wheatie at July 03, 2012 01:18 PM (MbB0O)

175 dark dark horse - national unity ticker, Cory Booker

Posted by: Jean at July 03, 2012 01:18 PM (WkuV6)

176

Romney needs to make his VP decision pretty darn soon, right? Before the convention?

Posted by: IC at July 03, 2012 01:19 PM (a0IVu)

177 If you just want somebody to be a dick to the press and the dems, then sign me up for VP.

Posted by: Zharkov at July 03, 2012 01:19 PM (YG9Le)

178

#164 Mr. Finn MCool re Bob Beckel

Watched his stand-in on Hannity last night - some blonde airhead who would NOT shut up or allow anyone to speak. Carlson had to admonish her over a break to behave civilly.

Fox should be able to find at least one liberal who can make an intellectual conversation. Although it is a truism that 99% of the liberals make the 1% look bad.

Posted by: Whitehall at July 03, 2012 01:19 PM (FmPSC)

179 173---" Is it too soon for Nikki Haley?" YES. And we've seen what the media can do to a young, good-looking woman. Give her time to build up her resume. (I also have dreams of her replacing Lindsey Graham in 2014. Hey, it could happen.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 03, 2012 01:21 PM (C8mVl)

180

The only thing is that he's not at all a shrinking violet and will speak his mind. I don't know if the Romney campaign would want that.

That's my concern as well. Despite his color, the MFM has already painted him as polarizing, NTTAWWT. We conservatives love him, especially down here where there are lots of retired veterans.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 03, 2012 01:21 PM (d0Tfm)

181 183, traditionally it is done at the convention or VERY shortly before.

Posted by: crosspatch at July 03, 2012 01:22 PM (ZbLJZ)

182 185

Think you're referring to Tamara Holder. You have her pegged. Intellectual vacuum.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at July 03, 2012 01:22 PM (zpqa2)

183 Christie would be too distracting as a VP pick. The left would use his moderate record as a wedge between Romney and the base (the "establishment RINO!!" thing.) Besides, his obesity would be a optical disaster of epic proportions. No need to make the msm's job of portraying our candidates as porcine robber barons any easier.

Posted by: Dorian Taupe at July 03, 2012 01:23 PM (IfM3l)

184 Plus a West/Biden debate would be an epic beat down.

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 03, 2012 05:00 PM

Put it on Pay-for-View and we could start making a dent in the national deficit.

Posted by: Cheri at July 03, 2012 01:23 PM (G+Wff)

185 What about that guy doing hard time in Texas? Should wrap up a good 80% of the crucial WVA vote!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 03, 2012 01:24 PM (C8mVl)

186 Id love to have West. Can he simultaneously run for reelection in the house? i loved how he took down Klein the aclu candidate. Itching was like watching Jack Bauer. Hed crush biden

Posted by: avi at July 03, 2012 01:24 PM (ilI81)

187 I don't want to see Christie as the VP. He lost me with his snarky comments about Americans who opposed the Ground Zero mosque. Sealed the deal when he said he saw absolutely nothing wrong with a government employee being fired for burning his own Koran on his own time (ever heard of the First Amendment, Mr. Lawyer?). He's an arrogant tool. Bobby Jindal would be a much better choice.

Posted by: Bystander at July 03, 2012 01:25 PM (/sohm)

188 164 OT but Bob Beckel is the most shameless hack on TV, he doesn't even try to finesse it a bit. Just full blown hackery on display. Contradicts himself from one sentence to the next. I know there is an opinion that arguements draw viewers but jeebus is he really the best FOX could do? Posted by: Finn McCool at July 03, 2012 05:12 PM (R/8dI) Name one.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at July 03, 2012 01:25 PM (jts1f)

189

193 Id love to have West. Can he simultaneously run for reelection in the house?

Yes....absolutely he can.

Then the Florida governor can appoint someone to fill that seat, until another election is held.

Posted by: wheatie at July 03, 2012 01:27 PM (MbB0O)

190 If romney picks rubio and wins, we have to demand Scott appoints West to fill rubios seat

Posted by: avi at July 03, 2012 01:27 PM (ilI81)

191 Unlike McCain, Romney needs a compliment as VP, not a contrast like Palin. The last thing he needs is a fire breathing loose cannon who will go off message. Like calling the mandate a tax.

Romney is only here he is because the average voter sees him as a competent CEO as opposed to a conservative zealot. Romney nominating a conservative zealot as VP would effectively scuttle his campaign. I think he's smarter than that.

Posted by: JP McCullen at July 03, 2012 01:28 PM (7+pP9)

192 197----" If romney picks rubio and wins, we have to demand Scott appoints West to fill rubios seat" Ooooooh. Wow.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 03, 2012 01:29 PM (C8mVl)

193 I' can beat Joe Biden in debates.

Posted by: Warm Bucket Of Spit at July 03, 2012 01:30 PM (kZS1a)

194 197 If romney picks rubio and wins, we have to demand Scott appoints West to fill rubios seat. Posted by: avi at July 03, 2012 05:27 PM (ilI81) Ve-ry in-ter-est-ingk!

Posted by: Colonel Klink at July 03, 2012 01:31 PM (jts1f)

195

Governor Snyder of Michigan?

Posted by: CAC at July 03, 2012 01:32 PM (TkC13)

196 Yes, you can!

Posted by: Box of Rocks at July 03, 2012 01:33 PM (jts1f)

197 Tray Gowdy.

Posted by: Bosk at July 03, 2012 01:33 PM (n2K+4)

198 Romney does not need another "moderate" from a NE State. He has that covered already.

If he wants to "balance" the ticket he needs a conservative from the SE or SW. Personally I don't think that will help him, but it will not hurt him s picking Christie would.

If he really wants to help Romney should pick a RINO Senator from a conservative Red State to fill the useless warm spit job of VP and open up a slot for a Conservative to the Senate.

Posted by: Vic at July 03, 2012 01:34 PM (YdQQY)

199 189; Yes I've heard her a few times on Hannity's radio show, unlucky in love, hates all men. They all fool around on their wives you know. I shouldn't be I know but I am constantly amazed that no Libs on TV, that I can even remotely think of, can put forward a thoughtfull analysis of anything. Mara Liason maybe.

Posted by: Finn McCool at July 03, 2012 01:34 PM (R/8dI)

200 And leave Tray Gowdy where he is at.

Posted by: Vic at July 03, 2012 01:34 PM (YdQQY)

201 Rubio would be a good pick because of his Dream Act. Most Americans want a comprehensive immigration solution that isn't some kind of radical deportation scheme.

Posted by: JP McCullen at July 03, 2012 01:34 PM (7+pP9)

202 1. Natalie Portman sends chills up my leg. (It moved)

2. Bobby Jindal does not send chills up my leg.

Posted by: eleven at July 03, 2012 01:35 PM (KXm42)

203 202 Governor Snyder of Michigan? Posted by: CAC at July 03, 2012 05:32 PM (TkC13) Not bad on most issues but a squish on ObamaTax. He was one GOP governor who refused to join the suit against it.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at July 03, 2012 01:35 PM (jts1f)

204 Are you talkin' to me? Are you talkin' to me? You must be because we're the only debaters in the room!!!

Posted by: joe 'super genius' biden screaming at a mirror at July 03, 2012 01:36 PM (nrW1y)

205 git em joe

Posted by: eleven at July 03, 2012 01:37 PM (KXm42)

206 off topic but gives one some hope -- from yahoo news:

The Declaration of Independence, ratified by the Continental Congress on July 4, 1776, asserts that "governments derive their only just powers from the consent of the governed." A new Rasmussen Reports national survey finds that 70% of American Adults agree with that statement, up from 66% last year and up from 56% in 2008. Just 13% now disagree with this assertion, but 17% are undecided.

Posted by: mallfly at July 03, 2012 01:39 PM (bJm7W)

207 And if gov Scottappoints West, i hope he is challenged by DWS and crushes her

Posted by: avi at July 03, 2012 01:39 PM (ilI81)

208 You have to ask yourself who would most help him carry a place like Ohio, Colorado, Nevada, Michigan, Iowa, or Pennsylvania.

That is what he is looking at. Having someone that would be popular in a state where he already is ahead would be foolish.

Posted by: crosspatch at July 03, 2012 01:40 PM (ZbLJZ)

209 West for VP, Christie for Chief of Staff (or Press Secretary!).

Posted by: RoadRunner at July 03, 2012 01:42 PM (RMN93)

210 Cabinet Picks? John Bolton... Sec.State Sarah Palin...Sec. Interior Paul Ryan....Sec. Treasury Chris Christie...Sec. Labor Newt...Sec. Education (mandate to shut it down)

Posted by: ChampionCapua at July 03, 2012 01:52 PM (KZi9D)

211 Sec Def?

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at July 03, 2012 01:54 PM (jts1f)

212 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at July 03, 2012 02:29 PM (Xb3hu)

213 I want this guy.

Posted by: Iblis at July 03, 2012 02:35 PM (9221z)

214 I mean I want this guy

Posted by: Iblis at July 03, 2012 02:37 PM (9221z)

215 Sorry html fail. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRWI4Z-YB_c&feature=relmfu

Posted by: Iblis at July 03, 2012 02:37 PM (9221z)

216

"Dick Cheney's not busy. And with Trayvon's heart, he's good for at least twenty years."

My day is complete.

Posted by: Drillanwr at July 03, 2012 02:38 PM (W7Xn5)

217

Christie would be way too big a distraction for this year. Mitt would be completely overshadowed (in more ways than one, lol) and he'd NEVER get heard in the press. Christie is a carnival act.

Further, he's a Muslim sympathizer. I want him NO WHERE near the WH.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl H8s Roberts & Roberts' defenders at July 03, 2012 03:12 PM (KL49F)

218

don't love him for the job.

This ace guy is so cool??

Posted by: rik at July 03, 2012 03:30 PM (JWihj)

219 @208 Lessee...how many times has the DREAM Act been violently squashed by the citizens, Dem and Repub? Yeah, we want job competition real bad! We want to pay illegal emergency hospital bills real bad. Yeah, we want to attract another 25 million people with who-knows-what kind of diseases and radical religious beliefs to illegally enter/stay/demolish our country and culture. Just keep thinking like that(along with Rick Perry) and see where the Dead Elephants end up...again. Rubio is a RINO, and so is Romney, who has violated, at some point in word or deed, every single plank in the Republican Party, bar none. Please Bishop, save me now!

Posted by: Your Inner Voice at July 03, 2012 03:30 PM (a1oOO)

220 Bush getting the Dead Elephants ass kicked in 2006 could happen again, and RINO-tards never seem to get a clue. Bush and Juan Amnesty McVain(the other Soros candidate)and Grahamnesty couldn't comprehend the first squashing of DREAM they had to try again a second time.

Posted by: Your Inner Voice at July 03, 2012 03:36 PM (a1oOO)

221 Sorry, but... way too fucking fat.

Posted by: Dang at July 03, 2012 03:40 PM (Ky1+e)

222 "I'm thinking more Jindal."

With all due respect, screw you guys. He will not be available for another 8 years. He's too busy cleaning up our swamp land.

Posted by: Kevin at July 04, 2012 06:38 AM (NGrk0)

223 Dang, Ace, that part about disengaged voters was so spot-on I almost copied it to my facebook page. Might loose a few of them doing that but it's better than physically slaping them upside the head, which they deserve.

Posted by: Mark at July 04, 2012 10:17 AM (Fc++6)

224 This is why Rob Portman will be the guy. Unlike Christie, who has a moderate record but comes off like a dick, Portman has a conservative record and comes off very moderate in tone.

And he brings all that sweet, sweet Bushie fundraising organization to the table.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at July 04, 2012 12:10 PM (dcoFe)

225

Memo from AP news stringer:

Dateline: Tampa, Fl

Date: August 29, 2012

Republican nominates Rep. Allen West as its choice to run for Vice-President.

(Scene shifts to NBC News executive editor's office during a high level meeting)

Steve Capus: "Whattzat you got there? Wow didn't see that coming. OK people! First impressions, go:"

Chris Matthews: "That extremist, religious nut Romney, just nakedly tried to sidle up closer to the bourgeoisie and make himself look more mainstream by tabbing this Tea Party jackbooted militarist, Allen West, as the GOP Veep Candidate.

David Gregory: "Agreed, but don't you think that message might be coming on a little too strong for a show like mine?"

Chris Matthews: "You may have a point, I was grasping for the happy medium between your network and mine. Did I mention that this guy is a sellout to his own race and turned the GOP into the Party of the Apes?

Lester Holt: "Hey now, just hold on there Chris, I resemble that remark, other than the part about being a Republican, of course. And didn't you just shamelessly steal that last line from Maher?"

Tom Brokaw: (abruptly starts from his dozing) "We really don't know alot about Obam... Allen West.... or what he will do."

Andrea Mitchell: "Just give me the complete exclusive on his nominating speech and I'll have it edited into a complete laff riot in time for the convention recap summary."

Brian Williams: "Back to this terrorist, er I man militarist, West. Maybe we could have something 'accidentally' blow up during one of his speeches? Make sure we keep the collateral damage to a minimum"

Dylan Ratigan: (stacks of moving cartons next to him) "This discussion is why I have to leave this network. We just aren't agressive enough in setting the narrative..."

Steve Capos: "Lots of great input here folks. Nothwithstanding Dylan's concerns, I suggest a balanced approach in our characterization of West, much like what worked so successfully in 2008. In looking at West's photograph here in front of me, he wears glasses and has an uncanny resemblance to a former African dictator who also was a low-level officer of his country's corrupt military. The course that the Narrative must take is therefore obvious and will be used at all times henceforth---Allen West is Seargeant Samuel Doe."

Andrea Mitchell: "I've already got the graphics department on the side-to-side blow-ups."

Lester Holt: "Oh boy. After this comes out, the Secret Service is going to have a design an extra detail just to protect Allen's ears."

Posted by: MSM at July 04, 2012 01:00 PM (WjJEB)

226 Memo from AP news stringer: Dateline: Tampa, Fl Date: August 29, 2012 Republican nominates Rep. Allen West as its choice to run for Vice-President. (Scene shifts to NBC News executive editor's office during a high level meeting) Steve Capus: "Whattzat you got there? Wow didn't see that coming. OK people! First impressions, go:" Chris Matthews: "That extremist, religious nut Romney, just nakedly tried to sidle up closer to the bourgeoisie and make himself look more mainstream by tabbing this Tea Party, jackbooted militarist, Allen West, as the GOP Veep Candidate. DavidGregory: "Agreed, but don't you think that message might be coming on a little too strong for a show like mine?" Chris Matthews: "You may have a point, I was grasping for the happy medium between your network and mine. Did I mention that this guy is a sellout to his own race and turned the GOP into the Party of the Apes? Lester Holt: "Hey now, just hold on there Chris, I resemble that remark, other than the part about being a Republican, of course. And didn't you just shamelessly steal that last line from Maher?" Tom Brokaw: (abruptly starts from his dozing) "We really don't know alot about Obam... Allen West.... or what he will do." Andrea Mitchell: "Just give me the complete exclusive on his nominating speech and I'll have it edited into a complete laff riot in time for the convention recap summary." Brian Williams: "Back to this terrorist, er I mean militarist, West. Maybe we could have something 'accidentally' blow up during one of his speeches? Make sure we keep the collateral damage to a minimum" Dylan Ratigan: (stacks of moving cartons next to him) "This discussionis why I have to leave this network. We just aren't agressive enough in setting the narrative..." Steve Capos: "Lots of great input here folks. Nothwithstanding Dylan's concerns, I suggest a balanced approach in our characterization of West, much like what worked so successfully in 2008. In looking at West's photograph here in front of me, he wears glasses and has an uncanny resemblance to a former African dictator who also was a low-level officer of his country's corrupt military. The course that the Narrative must take is therefore obvious and will be used at all times henceforth---Allen West IS Sergeant Samuel Doe." Andrea Mitchell: "I've already got the graphics department on the side-to-side blow-ups." Lester Holt: "Oh boy. After this comes out, the Secret Service is going to have to designate an extra detail just to protect Allen's ears." (reformatted)

Posted by: jokin at July 04, 2012 01:18 PM (WjJEB)

227 Every moron who says Jindal, including you ACE, loses all credibility with me. He is all smoke and mirrors, not a conservative or a reformer. I live in Louisiana, and this guy would be more of the same old bullshit we've been getting from Republicans for as long as i can remember. What has this guy done as Governor? Can anyone tell me?

Posted by: misledrkstar at July 04, 2012 02:15 PM (U7dOo)

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