March 29, 2012

Chris Matthews: No One I Know Ever Said ObamaCare Could Be Overturned
— Ace

Paging Pauline Kael.

Karl at the Green Room has a good primer on the number of prominent liberals living wholly in The Cocoon.

If liberals not in the media choose to live in The Cocoon, that's their right. But shouldn't media-types who are supposed to inform the public have a passing acquaintance with the arguments of the right?

How can you keep your audience informed if you yourself are deliberately misinformed, by voluntary personal choice?

John Podhoretz writes about the psychic shock when The Cocoon falls apart.

They’re so convinced of their own correctness — and so determined to believe conservatives are either a) corrupt, b) stupid or c) deluded — that they find themselves repeatedly astonished to discover conservatives are in fact capable of a) advancing and defending their own powerful arguments, b) effectively countering weak liberal arguments and c) exposing the soft underbelly of liberal self-satisfaction as they do so.


ThatÂ’s what happened this week. There appears to be no question in the mind of anyone who read the transcripts or listened to the oral arguments that the conservative lawyers and justices made mincemeat out of the Obama administrationÂ’s advocates and the liberal members of the court.

This came as a startling shock to the liberals who write about the court.

Jeffrey Toobin's job is not, supposedly, to offer his own opinions. It's to offer analysis of the court's actual jurisprudence (not just the Jurisprudence of the Left-- that is, Constitutional law in which only liberal opinions are recognized or considered law) and grounded speculation/prediction about the behavior of the court.

For the former, you need to read conservative legal opinions, and not just ignore them as Uncouth. For the latter, you also need to read these opinions, plus briefs in an upcoming case, and make unbiased judgments about what the court will do.

Not what you, as a Man of the Left, wish it to do. But what it probably will do.

But that was too much for Jeffrey Toobin, and Linda Greenhouse, and Dahlia Lithwick, and the rest of the People of Cocoon, so they just spun a cozy home of silk and dreams.

They were surprised by these arguments. Podhoretz says They should not have been surprised.

No one was hiding these arguments. They have been readily-available in court records for two years.

Nor was anyone hiding the two courts' decisions agreeing with these arguments.

Liberals just chose to ignore relevant information about the world they live in, and then call themselves sophisticated for having chosen to be stupider than God made them.

Their arguments were featured in briefs already submitted to the court and available for general inspection. And they’d already been given weight by the two judicial opinions against the constitutionality of ObamaCare issued by federal district court judges — one by Henry Hudson in Virginia in December 2010, the other by Roger Vinson in Florida in January 2011.

The briefs exist. The decisions exist. You can Google them. They are strong, fluent, well-reasoned and legitimate. They take ObamaCare seriously, and they argue against it at the highest possible level.

Thus, the strength of the conservative arguments only came as a surprise to Toobin, Greenhouse and others because they evidently spent two years putting their fingers in their ears and singing, “La la la, I’m not listening” whenever the conservative argument was being advanced.

And they're "experts," of course.

Experts who refuse to do their actual job, choosing instead to be merely cheerleaders for the leftist ideology.

You can ask me two different questions. Who do I want to win in 2012, and who do I expect to win in 2012.

These are entirely different questions. The first one is easy. The second is hard and I change my mind on it every week.

If I, a non-"expert" like these Sages of the Press, can readily recognize that these are two different questions, and that only a Tiny Little Baby imagines "what do I want" and "what I think will happen" are the exact same question, why cannot they manage to do the same?

You know what this week was for liberals?

Yeah you do.

ADVISORY: CHANGE IN SHIT JUST GOT REAL STATUS

NEW STATUS: R E A L


Posted by: Ace at 02:39 PM | Comments (212)
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1

Bill Clinton - "We just have to win..."

BH Obama - "I won..."

 

Simple (interpret that word as you will) as that...

Posted by: M. Murcek at March 29, 2012 02:42 PM (ToZXn)

2 SCOAMF

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at March 29, 2012 02:43 PM (DGIjM)

3 Please G-d, if these Nuremberg Laws are thrown out in toto I will bathe in the bitter tears of the leftists and have a schaden-boner that will last for much more than 4 hours. Even better if SCOAMF gets tossed.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 29, 2012 02:43 PM (Af3Wg)

4 Please G-d, if these Nuremberg Laws are thrown out in toto I will bathe in the bitter tears of the leftists and have a schaden-boner that will last for much more than 4 hours. ------------------- There wouldn't be enough pudding in the world.

Posted by: Farmer Joe at March 29, 2012 02:45 PM (pG7sQ)

5 DUNNING-KRUGER EFFECT in full operation.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 29, 2012 02:45 PM (Af3Wg)

6
omg, I actually agree with the guy. He always thought "intellectually" the bill was killable, but not "politically." And look at the current state of the GOP.

Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at March 29, 2012 02:46 PM (sWZxb)

7 I... I.... I... still cant believe the HHS Secretary ACTUALLY threatened to take ALL the funds away. Oh my..... oh my .... oh my

Posted by: Justice Breyer at March 29, 2012 02:46 PM (ffV1/)

8 General Turgidson will make sure that we DO NOT HAVE A PUDDING GAP!

Posted by: M. Murcek at March 29, 2012 02:46 PM (ToZXn)

9 It hasn't happened yet, folks.  I sure hope it does, but we'll have to wait till the end or June, or thereabouts.

Let's keep the powder dry on our celebratory fireworks.

Posted by: Hepcat at March 29, 2012 02:47 PM (cmE4V)

10 Ace, will anything go from real to fake?

Posted by: Mark formerly in Spokane,now in Sandy Ut at March 29, 2012 02:47 PM (8ac7j)

11 We're dumb because they're so smart.

Posted by: nickless at March 29, 2012 02:48 PM (MMC8r)

12 Who was incubated in the darkest, most airtight, most fetid cocoon of all?

Baraka.

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2012 02:48 PM (ykSKg)

13 Nobody I know voted for George Bush, per se.  How the hell did he win,  twice?  Ipso facto, the elections  were  stolen!

Posted by: In a NY (media) state of mind at March 29, 2012 02:48 PM (4q5tP)

14 Matthews had malaria... I think it rotted his brain, that and cheap whiskey

Posted by: The Jackhole at March 29, 2012 02:48 PM (nTgAI)

15 0bama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: logprof at March 29, 2012 02:48 PM (ykSKg)

16 Shit creek. No paddle.

Posted by: Soledad O'Brien's Magic Earpiece at March 29, 2012 02:49 PM (gQoLS)

17 The best part is even though we tell them how and why they get blindsided by these things, they won't change a bit.

Leftism is not a political position; it's a cult.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] at March 29, 2012 02:49 PM (qOfw/)

18 >>>Please G-d, if these Nuremberg Laws are thrown out in toto I will bathe in the bitter tears of the leftists and have a schaden-boner that will last for much more than 4 hours. If you schadenboner lasts more than 4 hours call your physician

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 29, 2012 02:49 PM (bcWo7)

19 We're having a really good week. I gotta tell 'ya, if this bitch gets overturned it will anger and demoralize the left worse than its passage angered and demoralized us.

Posted by: Warden at March 29, 2012 02:50 PM (HzhBE)

20 stupid alternate-reality community. like cosplaying through real life. No really, these are actual arguments. The liberal cocoon just hears "jesus guns I hate women."

Posted by: joeindc44 would also like to thank Dr. Pepper for his tasty contribution to mankind at March 29, 2012 02:50 PM (QxSug)

21

I happened to have Rush on the radio this afternoon during a short car trip, and he made a very cogent point.

 

Socialized Health Care has been a goal of the Democrats for decades, 50 years Rush said.  So why didn't they have better arguments in defense of their ideas for the Supreme Court this week?

 

Because all the ideas behind it, while interesting banter in the parlours of those clever intelligentsia, are not solid Constitutional arguments.

 

They live in the world of fantasy intellectual projection, where of course, their ideas are valid.  Until they run up against reality.

 

Hope and Stupidity.  It's a mantra for our times.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at March 29, 2012 02:50 PM (sJTmU)

22 Smart conservatives? Dude, you're harshing my mellow.

Posted by: Sean Penn at March 29, 2012 02:51 PM (gQoLS)

23 Quick!  To the fetal positions!

Wait,  were all for killing fetuses.  Aren't we?

Posted by: Chrissy Matthews at March 29, 2012 02:51 PM (BbX1b)

24 listen up idiots

how is a kid or a children supposed to get

health care if he can't even get a job?

even hal gore knew that and he was

mainly thought about the enviroment

the supreme court already has there own health care!

#JusticeForDelvon

Posted by: Jose Canseco's Gristle Encased Head at March 29, 2012 02:51 PM (+lsX1)

25 Imagine the weeping and gnashing of teeth come this November, Zero and Mooch packing, his legacy shredded, Sharpton, Waters, Spike all calling for riots or whatev, and Hardball guests committing suicide in the Green Room. Delicious.

Posted by: I am the egg man, . . . at March 29, 2012 02:51 PM (a362c)

26 Think about all the hoops the left jumped through to shove this abomination of a bill through. All the bribes, the propaganda and outright lying ... all the seats they lost in the House and Senate ... what if it's all lost by ONE VOTE in the Supreme Court? Could life be any better? They will pay ALL THE POLITICAL COST with none of the benefits. I don't want to get my hopes up, but damn would that be a good day.

Posted by: Warden at March 29, 2012 02:52 PM (HzhBE)

27 the current GOP looks like a bunch of naked people on roller skates locked in a room with the lights turned off (Credit for that:  Jack Murphy), and yet we as conservatives still manage to have our fecal matter gathered into an orderly pile.

Posted by: tangonine at March 29, 2012 02:53 PM (x3YFz)

28 I'm going to need more lotion and tissues.

Posted by: sifty at March 29, 2012 02:53 PM (uGQ4X)

29 Personally I wonder how all these "people of the cocoon" were nominated to be experts. Chrissy Pisshead is a damn speech writer.  I know more about the Constitution than he does.

So not only are they stupid, and maliciously so because they refuse to learn, but they are so stupid they don't know they are stupid. And that my friends is the worst kind of stupid.

Posted by: Vic at March 29, 2012 02:53 PM (YdQQY)

30 Stupid is as stupid does.

Posted by: huerfano at March 29, 2012 02:53 PM (bAGA/)

31 >>>Posted by: Jose Canseco's Gristle Encased Head at March 29, 2012 06:51 It's hard for me to take your argument seriously because it's (a) incoherent (b) logically flawed and (c) illiterate. Care to try again?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 29, 2012 02:53 PM (bcWo7)

32 what's even better, if we get the win, is this will be the third big commerce clause case to fight back against FDR style imperial federalism.

Posted by: joeindc44 would also like to thank Dr. Pepper for his tasty contribution to mankind at March 29, 2012 02:54 PM (QxSug)

33 Men Of The Left = Real Men Of Genius!

Posted by: Joey By-Den I'll Be Prez at March 29, 2012 02:54 PM (196B4)

34

Podhoretz didn't list "Option D" for how liberals/progressives/collectivists choose to regard conservatives/proponents of limited government:  *eeeeeeeeeevil*

 

The leftists need to identify enemies preventing their collectivist utopias from actually working.  They can not accept that their basic philosophy is flawed.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at March 29, 2012 02:54 PM (M0NzJ)

35
Chris Mathews : "Everyone I know gets a tingle in their pants down their leg when they hear obamao speakest " 

Posted by: runner at March 29, 2012 02:54 PM (WR5xI)

36 I told those liberals not to go sucking each others' dicks just yet, but did they listen?

Posted by: Winston Wolf at March 29, 2012 02:55 PM (P2Ufm)

37 Nothing like a fresh metaphysical steamer.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at March 29, 2012 02:55 PM (Qxdfp)

38 Toobin is the law Krugman...

Posted by: @ParisParamus at March 29, 2012 02:55 PM (+csHE)

39 Posted by: Jose Canseco's Gristle Encased Head at March 29, 2012 06:51

It's hard for me to take your argument seriously because it's (a) incoherent (b) logically flawed and (c) illiterate.

Care to try again? Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 29, 2012 06:53 PM


Leave him alone, he's on a streak.

Posted by: huerfano at March 29, 2012 02:55 PM (bAGA/)

40 another thing, the liberal lawyers were arguing to the liberal judges that health care is special because, whisper whisper, single payer systems are awesomely awesome for the children. This is BS, of course, and the opposing lawyers should have called out this fallacy. First, whether this is or isn't good law is irrelevant but second, single payer systems sucking suck. And therefore, the liberalspere world view that any action that isn't forming a soupline economy (where govt cheese is handed out to da poor) is bad for people is bullshit and has to be argued as being very bad for da poor who they're trying to help. watch Barbarians at the Gate.

Posted by: joeindc44 would also like to thank Dr. Pepper for his tasty contribution to mankind at March 29, 2012 02:56 PM (QxSug)

41 True - too soon for the HappyDance - but, assuming HappyDance time comes in June, we can count on lots of "The Constitution - A Old White Guy Plague," and "Three Branches of Government? Two Too Many?" articles.  Hopefully we can wipe the tears of joy away long enough to read 'em...

Posted by: M. Murcek at March 29, 2012 02:56 PM (ToZXn)

42 People of the cocoon? People of the cocoon?!?!?! Racists!

Posted by: Spike Lee's Twitter Feed at March 29, 2012 02:57 PM (bcWo7)

43 I tried to warn those dumb bastards about Unknown Unknowns.

Posted by: Ex Sec of Def at March 29, 2012 02:57 PM (LnEk1)

44

Matthews still is on the air and being broadcast??

Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at March 29, 2012 02:57 PM (f8XyF)

45 psst Sean Bannion, scroll down to Canseco post at Ace's yesterday

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at March 29, 2012 02:57 PM (QTHTd)

46 That weasel ass, lube cock, Matthews, shit fuck is friggin' Skittles!!!

Posted by: Touré Syndrome sufferer at March 29, 2012 02:57 PM (6RnvM)

47

Warden @ 26

The phrase you might be looking for is ippy"Pyhrric Victory"

 

A few more of those and the Democrat Party may just be finished.

 

To quote the sublime poetry of Stephen Greene, the Vodka Pundit:

Get your hands off my wallet

You dirty, filthy hippy

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at March 29, 2012 02:58 PM (sJTmU)

48 The Obamanator, Pelosi, and Dingy Harry did not know and, more importantly, did not care if Obamacare was constitutional.  They look at the constitution as fairy stories like that all that religion junk that adults use to frighten children into behaving and it is just not worth the consideration of grown ups.  Of course, Kagan, Breyer, Bader-Meinhoff Ginsberg, and probably Wise White Latina Sotomayor feel the same way.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 29, 2012 02:58 PM (Hx5uv)

49 F*cking Cocoon.

Posted by: George Zimmer at March 29, 2012 02:58 PM (Qxdfp)

50 The tears, they taste like nectar.

Posted by: jakeman at March 29, 2012 02:58 PM (96M6e)

51 This is about some racist bullshit up in here.



Not really. I'm just practicing.

Posted by: sifty at March 29, 2012 02:59 PM (uGQ4X)

52 Another thing to consider is that if Obamacare is struck down, they'll never get an opportunity like this again in our lifetimes.

Posted by: Warden at March 29, 2012 02:59 PM (z1HLu)

53 Don't be hatin' on us old folks.

Posted by: Wilford Brimley at March 29, 2012 03:00 PM (96M6e)

54 Let's not start greasing our nether regions yet folks. It ain't over til it's over.

Posted by: Skittles® Yo! at March 29, 2012 03:00 PM (EL+OC)

55 Sorry guys but Kennedy will uphold this shit. I'm not Greg I'm just being a fucking realist.

Posted by: Mr Pink at March 29, 2012 03:00 PM (eacNI)

56 Shithawks are circling ? ..... What the fuck's a shithawk ???

Posted by: Bubbles at March 29, 2012 03:01 PM (npr0X)

57 18 If you schadenboner lasts more than 4 hours call your physician Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 29, 2012 06:49 PM (bcWo7) At least a death panel won't be able to deny my treatment.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 29, 2012 03:01 PM (Af3Wg)

58 Constitution? It is what we say it is!

Posted by: Living Document Party at March 29, 2012 03:01 PM (qjH4X)

59 "...that was too much for Jeffrey Toobin..."

Yeah, but Toobin's a sensationalistic hack, so I never give credence to his histrionic interpretations.

Posted by: Balsamic Shotgun at March 29, 2012 03:01 PM (sTS/8)

60 The only Coccoon I acknowledge is the shitty 80's movie with a bunch of old people swimming in a pool.

Posted by: Mr Pink at March 29, 2012 03:01 PM (eacNI)

61 I used to make my legal writing students do the standard write a brief advocating position a and then the next week write a brief advocating position b which was directly in opposition to position a project.  When they'd whine about how could they dooooo that, it's too haaaaarrrrrddddd I would tell them that there is no possible way you can know your own arguments until you know the other side's.  That's logical reasoning 101 stuff. 


I've always wondered how the hell those on the Left can think that they are Deep Thinkers when they refuse to actually think. 

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at March 29, 2012 03:01 PM (Gk3SS)

62

Like I told sifty on Twitter, I'm going to splash and roll around in their grief and anguish like a retard on a waterslide.

 

Game on.

Posted by: DR Walker at March 29, 2012 03:02 PM (JDIKC)

63 bow down to your proggtard masters you effin' bitter clingers

Posted by: newrouter at March 29, 2012 03:02 PM (xD4bD)

64

Well actually, Matthews is not "on the air"   (they might need an EPA permit for that)

 

He's on "cable", or in some cases Direct TV.

 

If you watch Matthews on cable, you might lose your judgment

If you lose your judgement , you might be a danger to others and yourself

If you're a danger to yourself, you might have a terrible car accident

So don't watch Matthews, or you'll be a wreck 

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at March 29, 2012 03:03 PM (sJTmU)

65 the scotus: barackycares death panel

Posted by: newrouter at March 29, 2012 03:03 PM (xD4bD)

66 I kind of wish this whole subject would go away until the ruling is revealed. I'm very superstitious, and everything just feels too good right now.

Posted by: Kensington at March 29, 2012 03:03 PM (znT2j)

67 But Ace what you don't understand is that I'm basing my opinion on the fact that Nancy Pelosi assured me it won't/can't be overturned... And I'm sure you're aware that Nancy is an expert on the US Constitution.

Posted by: Linda Greenhouse at March 29, 2012 03:03 PM (0egZ1)

68 one of the great risks of overturning obamacare is how we are going to deal with all the schadenboners. How do you finish the schadenboner?

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 29, 2012 03:04 PM (Z9EHQ)

69

The reason that the Left has been so insulated and isolated in their thought processes is that they are so incredibly smug that they are more correct in their thinking than anyone else. They deliberately disociate themselves from anyone with an alternative POV. Their minds are so closed to facts that don't fit into their template that their own reality reflects the heights of Cognitive Dissonance.

Those of us on the Right wait for the facts to come out, then closely examine them, and if they don't fit with what we believe, we change our beliefs to fit the facts, not the other way around.

Posted by: Smokey Behr at March 29, 2012 03:04 PM (PaYek)

70 Liberals do not read/seek to understand conservative arguments because of the PHYSICAL PAIN that the cognitive dissonance causes them when they do so. That pain makes them chant, yell, belittle, organize, march, carry signs, make threats...anything to get it to STOP! They seek the soothing balm of groupthink that makes the pain go away. They seek the physical pleasure they get from thinking one-layer deep about an issue and stop thinking at all when they feel good about themselves. Unintended consequences are boogeymen/constructs of the Right. The thought of it fills them with fear. They must demonize the creators of that pain, those of us on the Right and our ideas. We must be Evil to cause so much pain. Avoiding the arguments of the Right is a Health Care issue for the Left.

Posted by: '52 Esquire at March 29, 2012 03:04 PM (KZi9D)

71 When congress passes a bill, that's the Constitution, right?

Posted by: Chris WetLeg at March 29, 2012 03:04 PM (6KzRf)

72 Yeah, seriously, don't get your hopes up. My name is still "Kennedy" after all.

Posted by: Justice Kennedy at March 29, 2012 03:04 PM (znT2j)

73 uhh two words: campaign finance reform.

Posted by: nip at March 29, 2012 03:05 PM (uRVaX)

74 Is it true they vote tomorrow? Any chance of a leak?

Posted by: USS Diversity at March 29, 2012 03:05 PM (vpe0k)

75 I still can't believe Nixon won.  No one I know voted for him.

Posted by: mama winger at March 29, 2012 03:05 PM (P6QsQ)

76 Is it true they vote tomorrow? Any chance of a leak? Posted by: USS Diversity at March 29, 2012 07:05 PM (vpe0k) where did yo hear that?

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 29, 2012 03:05 PM (Z9EHQ)

77 Right, and when Kennedy goes retarded, I'm going to give him cover, because...that's just how we roll.

Seriously, minimize your expectations.

Posted by: John Roberts at March 29, 2012 03:06 PM (znT2j)

78

Its quite simple Ace.. you must accept that Perception IS Reality... ergo, if we do not percieve it, it is not real.

 

Thus, your arguments are invalid because we stick our fingers in our ears, so we can't hear you... thus not percieving it... ergo it is not real!

Posted by: Leftist Philosopher at March 29, 2012 03:06 PM (lZBBB)

79 To live in Obama's America and not think him a complete lunatic and idiot it is necessary to burrow further into the cocoon than even the left usually does.

I think most people on the left made a conscious choice to turn off their brains once Obama was in office and it became excruciatingly clear that he was just not very bright and had an understanding of the world somewhat short of that of the typical family pet.  Otherwise they would have to deal with the fact a black man can be an imbecile. 

Take today for instance.  They are all forced to now pretend that removing the tax breaks from the oil companies is the same as not subsidizing them and that in any case there will be no upwards pressure on prices as a result.  They have to swallow stuff like this every single day just to keep their image of Obama alive in their minds.

Forced to choose between the cocoon and having a non-PC thought about a black guy they choose to start spinning like their lives depend upon it.


Posted by: voluble at March 29, 2012 03:06 PM (C9bRU)

80 One of the central contradictions of liberal interpretations of the Constitution is that the Founders were a bunch of racist unenlightened hypocrites, yet just happened to write a document which supports every liberal wet dream ever, if you just read between the lines and at the "emanations and penumbrae". It's like saying not just that the Devil can quote Scripture, but he actually wrote it.

Posted by: BS Inc. at March 29, 2012 03:07 PM (P2Ufm)

81 Tank treads will be greased with the guts of the slow, the weak, the stinky hippies.

Posted by: sifty at March 29, 2012 03:07 PM (uGQ4X)

82 And didn't those c*cks*ckers write ObamaCare so that it needed a supermajority for repeal?

Posted by: Kensington at March 29, 2012 03:07 PM (znT2j)

83 If Ace read his own blog he would know: It will be 5-4 one way or another. Don't bet on any outcome. Read Vic in the morning.

Posted by: USA at March 29, 2012 03:08 PM (6Cjut)

84 i wonder if Donald Verrilli, (arguing the case for the whitehouse) came from Harvard?

Posted by: willow at March 29, 2012 03:08 PM (TomZ9)

85 "Tank treads will be greased with the guts of the slow, the weak, the stinky hippies."
===============

Don't forget about me!

Posted by: Rachel Corrie at March 29, 2012 03:09 PM (znT2j)

86 @willow Columbia!

Posted by: '52 Esquire at March 29, 2012 03:09 PM (KZi9D)

87

Maybe we can finally overturn Barry.  Look what Occidental says:

 

http://bit.ly/H0OERO

Posted by: RushBabe, going with SMOD '12 at March 29, 2012 03:09 PM (tQHzJ)

88 Is it true they vote tomorrow? Any chance of a leak?

The White House will be told immediately by that Kagan guy.

Posted by: nickless at March 29, 2012 03:09 PM (MMC8r)

89 Root Buttons Ginchberg will probably write an epic, prune-smelling Matlock rant in her dissent.

Then she'll chase some children around her gingerbread house with a cauldron.

Posted by: sifty at March 29, 2012 03:09 PM (uGQ4X)

90 25 Imagine the weeping and gnashing of teeth come this November

And rending of garments.  Don't forget the rending of garments.

Posted by: pep at March 29, 2012 03:09 PM (6TB1Z)

91 85 i wonder if Donald Verrilli, (arguing the case for the whitehouse) came from Harvard? Columbia

Posted by: USA at March 29, 2012 03:10 PM (6Cjut)

92 ..... aaaannnnnnd.... water is wet. What do you expect from a group of folks that believe abortion, free medical care, a minimum wage and green colored skittles are rights explicitly enumerated in the Constitution.... will at the same same time argue "the right to bear arms shall not be infringed" isnt really there.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 29, 2012 03:10 PM (ffV1/)

93 I worried about what happens when things get too real.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at March 29, 2012 03:10 PM (kqGWM)

94 Kathrine Sebelius, the woman who killed Obamacare! Anybody know where she lives?

Posted by: nip at March 29, 2012 03:10 PM (uRVaX)

95 oh, and remember, they slammed this bill through congress by bribiing everyone they could and it still only went through by a vote or two. It's not sacrosanct, and the left will never get a chance like that again.

Posted by: joeindc44 would also like to thank Dr. Pepper for his tasty contribution to mankind at March 29, 2012 03:10 PM (QxSug)

96
I got this, guys.

Posted by: Justice Scalia at March 29, 2012 03:10 PM (K6sn/)

97

Beware the plurality opinion and wacky concurrences with no clear majority. Decide not to decide. Force Congress to go back to the drawing board.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at March 29, 2012 03:10 PM (qwK3S)

98 How will I get my free birth control if ObamaCare is overturned?

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at March 29, 2012 03:10 PM (znT2j)

99 And didn't those c*cks*ckers write ObamaCare so that it needed a supermajority for repeal?

Posted by: Kensington at March 29, 2012 07:07 PM (znT2j)

 

One thing I've learned from the conservative blogosphere:  One Congress can't make rules for another.  Thank Gaia.

Posted by: RushBabe, going with SMOD '12 at March 29, 2012 03:11 PM (tQHzJ)

100
Anybody know where she lives?

****

She hangs from a different tree every night.

Posted by: Wodeshed at March 29, 2012 03:11 PM (K6sn/)

101 The reason I still think this shit stain will pass is because liberals do not care about being right, about law, about anything other than winning. And Kennedy is a liberal. This is a giant set up so then the right will look fucking stupid. I really don't give a shit if this fuckstain passes the SC, I still will never believe it's Constitutional. Fuck them, come make me buy the shit.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at March 29, 2012 03:11 PM (swkkW)

102

And they're "experts," of course.

Experts who refuse to do their actual job, choosing instead to be merely cheerleaders for the leftist ideology. >>>>>

This is why we see the word UNEXPECTEDLY coming up so often nowadays in the MBM.

All their "experts" have these fancy-ass "credentials" and therefore are infallible. I've developed the habit of smirking everytime I hear or read "expert" from the MBM, because I believe their definition of an expert is someone who knows a little about a subject that the journalist knows nothing about.

Most of the so-called experts are some think tank leftists who regularly email the MBM with their white papers


Posted by: kbdabear at March 29, 2012 03:11 PM (Y+DPZ)

103 90 Root Buttons Ginchberg will probably write an epic, prune-smelling Matlock rant in her dissent.

Then she'll chase some children around her gingerbread house with a cauldron.
 

Posted by: sifty at March 29, 2012 07:09 PM (uGQ4X)

 

Sir; we of Coven 13 of the United Wican and Witches Union, would like for you to retract that base allegation that she is a Witch.

 

Please Sir, we have standards.

Posted by: Legal Dept. Coven 13, UWWU at March 29, 2012 03:12 PM (lZBBB)

104 >>>45 psst Sean Bannion, scroll down to Canseco post at Ace's yesterday Yesterday? Hell, I don't even read posts from today

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 29, 2012 03:12 PM (X+ZCG)

105

Imagine the weeping and gnashing of teeth come this November

And rending of garments. Don't forget the rending of garments.

 

Posted by: pep at March 29, 2012 07:09 PM (6TB1Z)

 

 

But only by those under 25 females with hourglass shapes.

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 29, 2012 03:12 PM (4q5tP)

106 99 How will I get my free birth control if ObamaCare is overturned? --------- Give you hint. Oral arguments arent just for SCOTUS.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 29, 2012 03:13 PM (ffV1/)

107 >>>Tank treads will be greased with the guts of the slow, the weak, the stinky hippies I thought that's what infantry was for

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 29, 2012 03:13 PM (X+ZCG)

108 Gentlemen, lets not start licking each others pudding covered scrota jut yet.

Posted by: W. Wolf at March 29, 2012 03:13 PM (axc/z)

109 Right, and when Kennedy goes retarded, I'm going to give him cover, because...that's just how we roll.

Seriously, minimize your expectations.
Posted by: John Roberts at March 29, 2012 07:06 PM



Hoo, I can get 'em smaller than that.

Posted by: President Romney at March 29, 2012 03:14 PM (sWZxb)

110 Nicely stated, as usual.  Tingles was Exhibit A in your case in chief (or maybe B after Toobin). They really are insulated from facts and reality.

Posted by: eureka! at March 29, 2012 03:14 PM (LQIyD)

111 I swear I heard that on local news, vote tomorrow, announce in June.

Posted by: USS Diversity at March 29, 2012 03:14 PM (vpe0k)

112 106 Imagine the weeping and gnashing of teeth come this November
And rending of garments. Don't forget the rending of garments.
Posted by: pep at March 29, 2012 07:09 PM (6TB1Z)
But only by those under 25 females with hourglass shapes.


Damn.  I can't catch a break.

Posted by: Christina Hendricks at March 29, 2012 03:14 PM (6TB1Z)

113 So when do you start offering official AoSHQ "Shit Just Got Real" T-shirts and hoodies? 'Cuz those are some threads I'd wear.

Posted by: Balsamic Shotgun at March 29, 2012 03:14 PM (sTS/8)

114 I guess we really can't be surprised that the MBM thinks all conservatives are stupid when the only ones they'll let near them are Meghan McCain and David Frum

Posted by: kbdabear at March 29, 2012 03:14 PM (Y+DPZ)

115 As if the dreaded evil Town Hallers (violent enough that Lefties had to beat the crap out of one and bite anohter's finger off) and radical Tea Partiers had never existed ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 29, 2012 03:15 PM (X3lox)

116 @102: "And Kennedy is a liberal." He might just feel like he gave the liberals their due back in 1992 with Planned Parenthood v. Casey. Maybe he doesn't wanna hang his legacy on this health care monstrosity too?

Posted by: Walter Freeman at March 29, 2012 03:15 PM (kqGWM)

117 Your finest post in a while, Ace.  Thanks.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at March 29, 2012 03:15 PM (ndlFj)

118 i really don't want to have hope with this.
i believe if it is passed It will make most govt officials be lords over us. we will lose so much as citizens. besides a right to our own doctors or a lesser standard of care .
How much of this law being shoved on us would open the door to other issues of law and our rights
as with commerce clause etc..

Posted by: willow at March 29, 2012 03:15 PM (TomZ9)

119 Kathrine Sebelius, the woman who killed Obamacare!

Anybody know where she lives? Posted by: nip at March 29, 2012 07:10 PM


Sho 'nuff.


Posted by: Spike Lee's Twitter feed at March 29, 2012 03:16 PM (sWZxb)

120 pay attention dummies

even pioneers had a health care

where if they had a broke leg or needed tommy john's surgery

they could trade like a chicken or a pig

and a doctor would fix it

now 20% of children don't even have access to a chicken or a pig

a doctor won't give you a operation for free idiots

#JusticeForBradong

Posted by: Jose Canseco's Gristle Encased Head at March 29, 2012 03:16 PM (+lsX1)

121 Nicely stated, as usual. Tingles was Exhibit A in your case in chief (or maybe B after Toobin). They really are insulated from facts and reality.

Posted by: eureka! at March 29, 2012 07:14 PM (LQIyD)

 

The judges would have also accepted impervious.

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 29, 2012 03:17 PM (4q5tP)

122 Damn. I can't catch a break.Posted by: Christina Hendricks

Exceptions can be made

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 29, 2012 03:18 PM (ABzUJ)

123 A Jose Conseco poem?!?!?!? Tell me you didnt pay money for that!!

Posted by: Raphael - TMNT at March 29, 2012 03:18 PM (ffV1/)

124 IS MY FRIEND JOSE HERE?!?

Posted by: ZUB ZUB THE POLAR BEAR at March 29, 2012 03:19 PM (nj1bB)

125 I agree with your assessment of these people, Ace.  But I'm not feeling  celebratory yet.  June is still a ways off.  We're talking about the SCOTUS here.  This could very well go the other way.  In other words, the "cocoon" could still prevail.

Posted by: Soona at March 29, 2012 03:20 PM (i3MF7)

126 It's like saying not just that the Devil can quote Scripture, but he actually wrote it.
Have we met?

Posted by: the prophet Mo at March 29, 2012 03:20 PM (6RnvM)

127 I don't know if the math is correct: El SooPer tweet: ***It's been 33 days since #Trayvon was killed by Zimmerman.. in that time 61,908 African-American babies have been aborted in America #tcot

Posted by: USA at March 29, 2012 03:20 PM (6Cjut)

128 JOSE DO U LIKE OTTERS?

Posted by: ZUB ZUB THE POLAR BEAR at March 29, 2012 03:20 PM (nj1bB)

129 Posted by: Jose Canseco's Gristle Encased Head at March 29, 2012 07:16 PM (+lsX1)

You could at least make it rhyme.

Slacker

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 29, 2012 03:20 PM (ABzUJ)

130 Exceptions can be made


Hendricks waiver?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at March 29, 2012 03:20 PM (Gk3SS)

131 We know what makes leftists tick because they're all around us and they never shut up.

They don't know us because they ignore us and tell each other comforting stories about our stupidity

Which is why Breitbart was always 20 steps ahead of them and they could never understand why

Posted by: kbdabear at March 29, 2012 03:21 PM (Y+DPZ)

132 kbdabear would you check out 382 or there about on zimmerman thread and see what you think

Posted by: willow at March 29, 2012 03:21 PM (TomZ9)

133

Can you say, "union scale"?

Posted by: Amalgamated Thrilled Leg Local 342 at March 29, 2012 03:22 PM (BHM5V)

134 Hendricks waiver? Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD0

Exactly.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 29, 2012 03:22 PM (ABzUJ)

135 Don't bother us.  We had a glass of wine and now we're engaged in "oral arguments". .. tee hee

Posted by: Sonia and Elena at March 29, 2012 03:22 PM (wAQA5)

136 A Jose Conseco poem?!?!?!? Tell me you didnt pay money for that!!

Posted by: Raphael - TMNT at March 29, 2012 07:18 PM (ffV1/)



I'd pay one chicken for it.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 29, 2012 03:23 PM (X3lox)

137

But only by those under 25 females with hourglass shapes.

Damn. I can't catch a break.

 

Posted by: Christina Hendricks at March 29, 2012 07:14 PM (6TB1Z)

 

Did I forget to mention the waiver program?  There are always exceptions to be made in extraordinary circumstances.  Why don't you make yourself comfortable over there on the chaise lounge?

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 29, 2012 03:23 PM (4q5tP)

138 When Kennedy gets out of the bed on the LEFT side and so votes to uphold this monstrosity, the Left will celebrate the "victory" even though they have acknowledged that their arguments were beaten, the law is unconstitutional, and its going to cost more than twice as much as they told us originally.  The true definition of Liberalism. The ends justify the means, even to the point of killing people and bankrupting the entire US.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at March 29, 2012 03:23 PM (ndlFj)

139 So, I've got about 2-1/2 months to cure myself of diabetes so that I can guzzle a fifth of Bailey's in celebration without taking a trip to the emergency room.  Done!

Posted by: kathysaysso at March 29, 2012 03:23 PM (ZtwUX)

140 Don't bother us. We had a glass of wine and now we're engaged in "oral arguments"... tee hee Posted by: Sonia and Elena

Ordinarily I'd ask for video, but, ummm.....never mind.

::: shudder :::

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 29, 2012 03:25 PM (ABzUJ)

141 "its going to cost more than twice as much as they told us originally. " They don't fucking care. Our grandchildren will be paying for the shit, and they can't vote.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at March 29, 2012 03:25 PM (swkkW)

142 My greatest blessing and curse is wishing passionately for justice and fairness. When President Obama was elected, I was disappointed but honestly thought, "Well, let's see what he does. As long as life in America is better, it doesn't matter." However, life in America ISN'T better. Please, God, don't let it get worse.

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at March 29, 2012 03:26 PM (SrEdZ)

143 We need more ex-perts

Posted by: Society For The Exile Of Perts at March 29, 2012 03:26 PM (4gH8K)

144 I rather live in my pessimistic world where any ray of light can be ignored until it is actually shown to be "real". Until this fuckhead is out of office.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at March 29, 2012 03:26 PM (swkkW)

145 I swear I heard that on local news, vote tomorrow, announce in June.

I heard something similar. The opinion is expected to be released in June, but the talking head didn't indicate whether early or late June.

Posted by: Retread at March 29, 2012 03:26 PM (joSBv)

146 life IS getting worse--every day, in almost every way, day by day

( anything Specific I offer as a Remedy will only get me Banned )

stay thirsty, comrades...

Posted by: the least interesting man in the world at March 29, 2012 03:28 PM (Dll6b)

147 The judges would have also accepted impervious.

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 29, 2012 07:17 PM (4q5tP)


I would have said inundated or implausible.


Posted by: eureka! in Toure mode at March 29, 2012 03:29 PM (LQIyD)

148 HIS MAJOR ACHIEVEMENT! How DARE the Constitution stand in the way of that!

Posted by: Chris Matthews at March 29, 2012 03:29 PM (ETgqz)

149 The occupant of a cocoon is undergoing change and growth, the opposite of the typical progg.

I think I prefer, Person of Bubble.

Posted by: Pedanticus at March 29, 2012 03:30 PM (axc/z)

150 133 kbdabear would you check out 382 or there about on zimmerman thread and see what you think Posted by: willow at March 29, 2012 07:21 PM

Some idiot moby, maybe Bike Boy's cabin boy Killgore

Posted by: kbdabear at March 29, 2012 03:30 PM (Y+DPZ)

151 Real helpful tip for SCOTUS:

Look at the result of the Obama Administration's latest budget submittal.

You're welcome.

Posted by: Fritz at March 29, 2012 03:31 PM (KWdVT)

152 Bammy's having a VERY bad week... Check out the new headline on Drudge.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 29, 2012 03:31 PM (ffV1/)

153 We need more ex-perts


Sadly, I have a pair of those.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at March 29, 2012 03:32 PM (Gk3SS)

154 kbdabear would you check out 382 or there about on zimmerman thread and see what you think Posted by: willow

I think you missed the "joke" there willow.  It was posted by noted eugenicist and patron saint of Planned Parenthood - Margaret Sanger.

Who was all over aborting "people of color."

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 29, 2012 03:34 PM (ABzUJ)

155 John Podhoretz writes about the psychic shock when The Cocoon falls apart.



Wait until the Left sees States start to leave the Union and realize that they are going to have to pay for their own infantile, misanthropic ideas. You haven't seen shock like that's going to be.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 29, 2012 03:34 PM (X3lox)

156 Your honors, I won. The defense rests.

Posted by: Prez BO at March 29, 2012 03:35 PM (2grn/)

157 Sadly, I have a pair of those.Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012

Oh, I bet they're still pert.

C'mere, lemme see...

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 29, 2012 03:35 PM (ABzUJ)

158 Someone that said O-bah-muhhCare would be overturned? Never heard of them.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at March 29, 2012 03:35 PM (4gH8K)

159 stop talking and listen too some information morons

somewhere in america a kid is sick with a broke leg or something

and he or his dad or mom doesn't have much money

some fat guy in a wig says that kid should just stay with a broke leg

and not get it fixed

that is bullshit

what about the kids leg?

#JusticeForRayfon

Posted by: Jose Canseco's Gristle Encased Head at March 29, 2012 03:37 PM (+lsX1)

160 Maybe that dis of the SCOTUS during the SOTU speech a couple years ago wasn't really well thought out.

Posted by: Roy at March 29, 2012 03:37 PM (tiOTz)

161 The hubris of the left will always be their downfall, until they acquire the humility or intellectual honesty to consider points of view that differ from their own. 

On every front conservatives have to defend their beliefs.  This makes our arguments stronger because they are rigorously tested and well thought out.  Having control of the media, entertainment and educational systems, the left hasn't had to do the same thing.  So some of their biggest advantages are also the source of their weakness.

Posted by: Mayday at March 29, 2012 03:38 PM (orrLR)

162 Check out the new headline on Drudge. check out the story directly underneath: 'Homeland Security" buying 450 million new bullets

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy aka st tits at March 29, 2012 03:38 PM (DV+3r)

163 Has there ever been a SCOTUS case where the  final decision could be predicted just from the oral arguements?

Posted by: Soona at March 29, 2012 03:39 PM (i3MF7)

164 Shit just got Real - sucks for Hollywood actress's chests.

Posted by: Roy at March 29, 2012 03:39 PM (tiOTz)

165 Gentlemen, lets not start licking each others pudding covered scrota just yet.
Posted by: W. Wolf


This scrotum isn't going to lick itself.  (If it could,  I'd never leave the house.  Or would I...  )

Posted by: That guy in the car next to you with the funny look on his face at March 29, 2012 03:39 PM (BbX1b)

166 "But shouldn't media-types who are supposed to inform the public . . "

Well, there's your problem right there.

You're assuming they're there to inform the public.

If by inform you mean indoctrinate, coordinate the narrative and assault anyone who differs, then yeah they're INFORMING the public.

Posted by: Inspired by disgust at March 29, 2012 03:40 PM (CP+yl)

167 >>Liberals just chose to ignore relevant information about the world they live in, and then call themselves sophisticated for having chosen to be stupider than God made them.


That's as apt a description as I've seen anywhere.
They are proudly and defiantly dumbed down as a result of their stultifying and strictly enforced group think.

Kudos Ace.

Posted by: ontherocks at March 29, 2012 03:42 PM (ZJCDy)

168 I used to make my legal writing students do the standard write a brief advocating position a and then the next week write a brief advocating position b which was directly in opposition to position a project. When they'd whine about how could they dooooo that, it's too haaaaarrrrrddddd I would tell them that there is no possible way you can know your own arguments until you know the other side's. That's logical reasoning 101 stuff.


I've always wondered how the hell those on the Left can think that they are Deep Thinkers when they refuse to actually think.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at March 29, 2012 07:01 PM (Gk3SS)








THIS.



It astounds me that shit-heels like Matthews and the MFM can't grasp that they would be so much more effective in advocating for leftist causes if they had a true understanding of their opponents' arguments. Instead, they look like fools and end up having to over-use the word "unexpectedly".

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 29, 2012 03:43 PM (tQoT4)

169 It's obvious to me that Kennedy does not like the idea that the Fed. govt. can make an individual buy broccoli or a Chevy Volt.  It's gonna be at least 5-4 that the individual mandate is unconstitutional.

He also isn't buying the "Let's go through the 2600 pages and determine what should be salvaged."  5-4 to rip the whole thing up.


Posted by: Jimbo at March 29, 2012 03:45 PM (O3R/2)

170 Jimbo,  I hope and pray you're right.

Posted by: Dang at March 29, 2012 03:49 PM (BbX1b)

171 Chris Matthews = Kent Dorfmann, 2012.

Posted by: nickless at March 29, 2012 03:53 PM (MMC8r)

172 Hopefully we can bury the 2,700 paged Obamacare in June.  Will Pelosi's idiots who keep voting her back in flip out thinking " OMG they lost their waivers"?

Posted by: Deli LLama at March 29, 2012 03:54 PM (uv9eO)

173 You know what would have been Constitutional?  Set it up like Social Security.  A "small" tax on every income.  A defined benefit plan.  If you want a liver transplant, Aetna and BCBS can sell you a policy that covers that.


Posted by: Jimbo at March 29, 2012 03:55 PM (O3R/2)

174 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at March 29, 2012 03:57 PM (7W3wI)

175 Jimbo, I hope and pray you're right.
--


Me too.  I secretly hope that some of the other lefties on the bench realize they will lose all credibility if they support O-care and the mandate, and will flip to be on the winning side.  Show their independence and all.

Posted by: Mayday at March 29, 2012 03:57 PM (orrLR)

176 Meet the real-life Barbies: Internet craze sees teenagers turn themselves into freakish living dolls    http://is.gd/wioN95

The world is going to hell. 

Posted by: toby928© at March 29, 2012 03:59 PM (GTbGH)

177 The left-wing liberal news readers see only two possible outcomes.  Either justice will be served by the SCOTUS if Obamacare is upheld, or a travesty of justice will have occurred based on political ideology similar to the theft of the 2000 election in Florida.

The news stories are already written.  James Carville tipped their hand earlier this week.

Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at March 29, 2012 03:59 PM (MqCCt)

178 88 Maybe we can finally overturn Barry. Look what Occidental says:

http://bit.ly/H0OERO

Posted by: RushBabe, going with SMOD '12 at March 29, 2012 07:09 PM (tQHzJ)

I couldn't find a date on that website. When did this come out?  I can't believe its true (not that I desperately don't want to believe) and if it is, why no other website with the info? Seems like a barnburner that they have Barry's Occidental transcripts and that he was a foreign aid student.  What website is that and what credibility do they have?

Posted by: Derak at March 29, 2012 04:02 PM (VEhDR)

179 Yes, they are ready with the meme that the SC is making a political rather than legal decision, they're in the pockets of the insurance companies, etc.

Their game is getting old.

Posted by: Mayday at March 29, 2012 04:03 PM (orrLR)

180 Well, today was the day the SCOTUS voted.  Say your prayers, all.


Posted by: eureka! at March 29, 2012 04:04 PM (LQIyD)

181
There's a lot of time between now and June.
A lot of things could happen.

The Pelican Brief was a story about how right wing fanatics tried to change an important Supreme Court ruling by assassinating a  Justice.

I always thought it was leftist projection.

Posted by: RayJ at March 29, 2012 04:04 PM (pI/IV)

182 Whoa, hey, shouldn't you warn us before you post a video with brown people?  Someone might get shot.

Posted by: TallDave at March 29, 2012 04:07 PM (lNW+B)

183

SCOTUS votes on Friday, according to the AP:   http://is.gd/4tzdPj

 

We have to wait for the written decision in June/July, and things can change between now and then.....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at March 29, 2012 04:07 PM (0xqzf)

184 >>>Like I told sifty on Twitter, I'm going to splash and roll around in their grief and anguish like a retard on a waterslide. Comments like this at ace's blog always make me think of Breitbart.

Posted by: Max Power at March 29, 2012 04:10 PM (q177U)

185 Lab Technician at Airport: This is real shit. This coke is pure shit.
Ray Hughes: It's good shit, right?
Lab Technician at Airport: I mean bad shit.
Ray Hughes: Bad shit like, "this shit is bad?"
Lab Technician at Airport: It's shit shit. This shit isn't worth shit. There's barely enough coke in here to attract the dogs. Anybody caught on the street with this would get killed.

Posted by: Satan's Barbed WeeWee at March 29, 2012 04:11 PM (Jls4P)

186 >>>Tank treads will be greased with the guts of the slow, the weak, the stinky hippies

I thought that's what infantry was for

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 29, 2012 07:13 PM (X+ZCG) <<<i

 

Dirty Cav BASTARD.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 29, 2012 04:12 PM (JDIKC)

187 This breakdown on the Left has actually shocked me. I guess now I understand why they were all so dismissive while the POS bill was being rammed through.

Posted by: rockmom at March 29, 2012 04:18 PM (YPgCz)

188 So he admits that virtually everyone he knows is an idiot.

Posted by: Michel at March 29, 2012 04:25 PM (6ZrMO)

189 Dirty Cav BASTARD. Posted by: Empire of Jeff

My gun's bigger than your gun.

Posted by: Rachel Maddow's Thong at March 29, 2012 04:27 PM (ABzUJ)

190 http://tinyurl.com/a7ukxl

Posted by: cartman at March 29, 2012 04:27 PM (axc/z)

191 bah!  off damn sock!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 29, 2012 04:28 PM (ABzUJ)

192 Has there ever been a SCOTUS case where the final decision could be predicted just from the oral arguements? Posted by: Soona at March 29, 2012 07:39 PM (i3MF7) Sure, the Sackett case recently decided. Everyone knew that would be a 9-0 decision after the oral arguments. I'm waiting for a decision to come out on an obscure mortgage lending case. Nobody knows what they are going to do on this one because most of the questioning was about an issue that wasn't even being litigated.

Posted by: rockmom at March 29, 2012 04:29 PM (YPgCz)

193 The Left is not good on thinking their grand schemes through.

Posted by: nickless at March 29, 2012 04:32 PM (MMC8r)

194 Ordinarily I'd ask for video, but, ummm.....never mind.

::: shudder :::


The video is really dark so you can't see anything. If you turn the sound up there's a few whimpers and gurgles, then something that sounds like a wet dog shaking.

Posted by: Not Drinking Nearly Enough at March 29, 2012 04:46 PM (HtUdo)

195 "the current GOP looks like a bunch of naked people on roller skates locked in a room with the lights turned off (Credit for that: Jack Murphy), and yet we as conservatives still manage to have our fecal matter gathered into an orderly pile."   That's some genius right there in comment 27 and the quality goes up from there.

 

Posted by: vivi at March 29, 2012 04:50 PM (uCx2P)

196 @196 Actually, this scheme was very well thought out, and discussed ad nauseam throughout lefty policy circles and the Journolist crowd before the bill was even written. That's one reason why the groupthink has been so strong about it. Most of us on the right didn't understand that most of what is in the bill was already on the shelf, written by a group called the Apollo Foundation. The White House spent a huge amount of time, and of our tax dollars, on a detailed propaganda campaign designed to achieve lockstep unanimity within the Democratic Party on it. That's why they all went so batshit crazy when Bart Stupak threatened to derail it over abortion. There are all sorts of pro-abortion triggers and tricks in it. Not only that, but the numbnuts really thought they could sell this sack of shit to conservatives because once upon a time some asshole at the Heritage Foundation wrote an article nobody read saying that the solution to health care was to make everyone buy health insurance. So they were really shocked that conservatives hated the mandate and got 26 state AGs to challenge it.

Posted by: rockmom at March 29, 2012 04:55 PM (YPgCz)

197 "You can Google them."

Sure. At the moment. But we're always tweaking the algorithms.

Posted by: Google. BTW, We Actually Are Evil at March 29, 2012 04:57 PM (eHIJJ)

198 Hasn't everybody learned to appeal to authority... and then listen to us when we say something!? God you all are stupid. Just ask us!

Posted by: Toobin et al., Official Authorities on Stuff at March 29, 2012 05:00 PM (eHIJJ)

199 I don't buy it that the left wing media has been all cocooned, so now they are all surprised. They have been pretending all this time that ObamaCare was wonderful and there were no problems and anyone who said otherwise was just some goofy, right-wing crank. Now that they can pretend no more about what will happen, they want to continue to pretend that they had no idea that this could come to pass. So where does that leave them? They have to pretend that they have been surprised.

All part of the narrative.


Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 29, 2012 05:06 PM (k34Gz)

200 I remember a Christmas that was semi-ruined by the sick feelings of Obamacare.

If this get struck down, can they do it on an equivalent day for the dems, like say Earth Day or something?

Posted by: Pmzey at March 29, 2012 05:20 PM (pmzey)

201 Late June.  Just in time to celebrate Independence Day.

Posted by: Jimbo at March 29, 2012 05:24 PM (O3R/2)

202 "the current GOP looks like a bunch of naked people on roller skates locked in a room with the lights turned off (Credit for that: Jack Murphy), and yet we as conservatives still manage to have our fecal matter gathered into an orderly pile.
Posted by: tangonine"


Call me a pessimist, but I still think we'll get our stool pushed in....

But it would be nice if SCOTUS pulled it out for us.

Posted by: FORGER - Monster Hunter at March 29, 2012 05:25 PM (HYbYx)

203 Iowahawk on this story: Nobody expects the American Constitution! #Our2chiefweaponsarefearandsupriseandruthlessefficiency

Posted by: DavidR at March 29, 2012 05:37 PM (myanI)

204 Target is coming out with a new line of clothing:

Shit just got teal.


Posted by: sifty at March 29, 2012 05:38 PM (uGQ4X)

205 Sea World has new summer attraction:


Shit just got Seals.

Posted by: sifty at March 29, 2012 05:39 PM (uGQ4X)

206 I've always wondered how the hell those on the Left can think that they are Deep Thinkers when they refuse to actually think.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at March 29, 2012 07:01 PM (Gk3SS)

Precisely because they think they are Great Thinkers and Brilliant Minds, they smugly assume that any damn fool idea that pops into their heads must be right, and therefore there's no need to examine further.

Posted by: sistrum at March 29, 2012 05:41 PM (AyryN)

207 This is what preening a-holes call "epistemic closure." Mad gay, yo.

Posted by: John at March 29, 2012 05:46 PM (farW1)

208 Liberals live in the reality based community, they're so proud to say. That's the one with free health care, enemies who'd become allies if we renounced ourselves, and bountiful, cheap green energy.

Posted by: Cowboy at March 29, 2012 06:27 PM (So+7G)

209 For years, leftazoids such as Matthews have been responding to conservative arguments by jeering, "Well, that's what a conservative would say, isn't it?" --- and treating their empty "retort" as a crushing put-down.

I await the day some leftnoid lawyer tries that one out on the Supremes.  But, hey, maybe that's essentially what the Solicitor General did.

(if ObamaCare goes down in flames I plan to ask my radical-lib neighbor to close her eyes for ten seconds, then tell her I mooned her while they were shut)

Posted by: Jim Sonweed at March 29, 2012 07:04 PM (SV4OI)

210 Just "curious..." Am I one of "the banned?" ( ...of Brothers... )

Posted by: backhoe at March 30, 2012 12:25 AM (QROim)

211 http://preview.tinyurl.com/722x9k2

Posted by: BK at March 30, 2012 08:43 AM (P73hq)

212 3 Please G-d, if these Nuremberg Laws are thrown out in toto I will bathe in the bitter tears of the leftists and have a schaden-boner that will last for much more than 4 hours. Even better if SCOAMF gets tossed. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 29, 2012 06:43 PM (Af3Wg) And don't forget the lamentations of their wimmins...

Posted by: RomneyBot Since 2007 at March 30, 2012 08:59 AM (BB0/w)

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