April 02, 2012
— Ace From a soon-to-be-released... um, ebook.
“It became an open secret that he was using painkillers in sufficient dosages to keep him standing through the two-hour debates,” write the authors of “Inside the Circus.”
Well, it's plausible. Doesn't make it true.
One anecdote is that a couple of campaign managers for rival campaigns heard him belting out "I've Been Working On The Railroad" in the bathroom.
Eh.
One thing I think this illustrates is how subject to chance events are. I hear a lot of suggestions that "The Establishment" kept certain people from running (Palin, of course, and Christie, and Jindal, and Pence, and etc.) and "engineered" Mitt Romney's apparent triumph. A push here, a whispered word there, a finger on the balance over this way, that sort of thing.
This whole tendency to ascribe every series of events to a malignly calculating super-intelligence is as silly as ascribing sickness to spirits. It's an attempt to turn a complicated series of events into a brief, digestible Narrative which is nice and simple (but also wrong).
And it's also an attempt at anthropomorphization of bad luck. You can't be angry at bad fortune, because bad fortune is not a human being with sentience and moral agency. You can hate bad luck, but it's not really like hating a human being. It's a lot more satisfying to postulate that this was not Bad Fortune, but Malevolent Design, and hate the conveniently-human designers behind it all.
This is a lifetime ago, but cast your minds back to August 2011: Perry was not only beating Romney, but curb-stomping him, with virtually every group.
He seemed invincible. All he had to do was show up to a debate and offer a reasonable accounting of himself and appear to have it together and he'd have been the nominee in a walking, wrapping it up by the end of January.
But he didn't. And possibly that was due to his recent back-surgery and the painkillers he needed just to stand for so long.
A late start in thinking about the presidency, a very ill-timed surgery... And history is changed.
And that's how things really work. Not a Conspiracy by an Elite (which, of course, is routinely denigrated as pretty f'n' stupid and incompetent, except when it comes to Conspiracy), but one chance event leading to another, and so on, until unpredictable outcomes occur.
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Posted by: Cicero at April 02, 2012 12:57 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 02, 2012 12:57 PM (niZvt)
Yup.
Hellooooooo, Mittens.
Posted by: Cicero at April 02, 2012 12:58 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: The Rosicrucians at April 02, 2012 12:58 PM (w/anX)
'"The Establishment"... "engineered" Mitt Romney's apparent triumph...'
Anthropomorphize this, mother-f*cker: The largest contributor to Willard's Super-PAC is...
...drum roll please...
GOLDMAN MOTHER-F*CKING SACHS!!!
So kiss my Anthropomorphizing ass - for all intents and purposes, Goldman Sachs is SPECTRE from the James Bond novels and movies.
Posted by: Zombie Shane at April 02, 2012 12:58 PM (hUcgo)
I know there was some speculation in the comments hereabout the pain killer thing at the time of the debates. It wouldn't surprise me. But, again, the only one to blame, if there's any blame to be had, would be Perry. If he was not physically capable of handling the debates with clear mental focus due to the pain killers, well, that's a factor that should have been considered before making his run.
Didn't Jindal decide not to run on the grounds that he wanted to still be governor and thought he needed more experience? I sort of remember something along those lines.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at April 02, 2012 12:59 PM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at April 02, 2012 12:59 PM (iVaoN)
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 02, 2012 12:59 PM (Qxdfp)
Posted by: Goldman Sachsfinger at April 02, 2012 12:59 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain at April 02, 2012 01:00 PM (bj+Nc)
Yeah, Teh Fred was flat in the primaries because he was still feeling the effects of chemo. If the election would have been six months later, I think he would have been the nominee rather than McCain. While shit happens, why do I feel that it's always happening to us?
Posted by: toby928© at April 02, 2012 01:00 PM (GTbGH)
"I've Been Working on the Railroad"?
My mind immediately went to the scene in The Right Stuff when the prospective astronauts had to provide a sperm sample and started humming their various service songs in the bathroom stalls.
I'm a dirty girl.
Posted by: Palandine at April 02, 2012 01:01 PM (g7D8V)
Posted by: Sphynx at April 02, 2012 01:02 PM (fEmj2)
Posted by: Justamom at April 02, 2012 01:02 PM (Sptt8)
You're totally validated, dude.
Posted by: Goldman Sachsfinger at April 02, 2012 01:03 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: navycopjoe at April 02, 2012 01:03 PM (EYfcP)
Posted by: Rick Fucking Perry at April 02, 2012 01:03 PM (KNvk+)
"I once volunteered to chair a huge fundraiser while on vicodin."
Youtube video or it didn't happen.
Posted by: Zombie Shane at April 02, 2012 01:03 PM (hUcgo)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 02, 2012 01:03 PM (Af3Wg)
I blame Michele Bachmann and Herman Cain for the sorry cast of characters we ended up with. Neither one of them had any busniess running for president and they both sucked all the air out of the race for far too long.
I won't argue that Palin never had any intention of running. She proved all her critics right so it doesn't really matter now if she might have run if Bachmann had stayed out if it. I'll keep that little rationalization for myself since I don't want to admit I supported her for almost 3 years for nothing.
Cain? That joke. All the people that fawned over him as the only true conservative are now falling all over themselves for Santorum.
I hate people. I had hope for conservatives. Not anymore. They're just as stupid as liberals.
Posted by: Jaynie59 at April 02, 2012 01:04 PM (4zKCA)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 02, 2012 01:05 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: maddogg at April 02, 2012 01:06 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 02, 2012 01:06 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Soledad O'brien at April 02, 2012 01:06 PM (A6JXc)
Posted by: navycopjoe at April 02, 2012 01:06 PM (x1L8S)
Posted by: Rick Fucking Perry at April 02, 2012 01:06 PM (KNvk+)
Posted by: X at April 02, 2012 01:07 PM (8Yc/9)
Governor Perry has no one to blame for his failure to win in the primaries but himself. I was pulling for him, and would have probably been a pound in the lawn sign and walk the precinct volunteer for him. The downside is that he possibly discouraged others from running by announcing his candidacy.
We won't know what could have been, but now, barring a disaster we are stuck with Willard Romney, Mr. North Eastern Elite himself.
Remember in November --- ABO!!!
Posted by: rd at April 02, 2012 01:07 PM (9sUlj)
Posted by: Andy at April 02, 2012 01:07 PM (5Rurq)
I hope the label didn't instruct him to take 3...though that would explain his reaction to the meds.
Posted by: garrett at April 02, 2012 01:09 PM (IUwie)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 02, 2012 01:09 PM (8y9MW)
In earlier generations Perry wouldn't have been able to campaign at all most likely. Or just been up front and admitted he can't stand for more than 20 minutes at a time.
The best debate I've seen was Cheney vs Lieberman in 2000. Sitting down. Having a reasonable, but forceful, debate on ideas.
Posted by: Clubber Lang at April 02, 2012 01:09 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: RomneyBot since 2007 at April 02, 2012 01:09 PM (BB0/w)
Posted by: maddogg at April 02, 2012 01:10 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 02, 2012 01:11 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: joncelli, who isn't reading the comments today at April 02, 2012 01:12 PM (RD7QR)
Exactly. Barack Obama runs for office, collective national imbecility intrudes, and America gets it up the squeakhole via SCoaMT. It's all very linear.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 02, 2012 01:12 PM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: mugiwara at April 02, 2012 01:12 PM (KI/Ch)
I'm pretty certain this is old news. There was a story a couple months back that he'd scheduled back surgery just before the campaign. The assumption was that he'd have been using pain killers afterwards.
I'd still vote for Perry if he were running. He can't debate worth a crap, but his record was better than the choices we've been left with.
Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at April 02, 2012 01:12 PM (eHwT1)
I do this too. Does this mean I'll never be President?
Posted by: Jones in CO at April 02, 2012 01:12 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: polynikes at April 02, 2012 01:13 PM (kg7Iv)
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 02, 2012 01:13 PM (niZvt)
just sayin'
You mean the Republican Debates (there weren't any for the General). I'm not sure I agree with you. 1) He never stepped on his own dick in those. 2) He very, very ably played Debra Medina off Kay Bailey. I wish he'd been even that on his game during the Prez. Debates.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 02, 2012 01:13 PM (8y9MW)
eATMe
Posted by: Phinn at April 02, 2012 01:13 PM (KNtHw)
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 02, 2012 01:13 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: RomneyBot since 2007 at April 02, 2012 01:14 PM (BB0/w)
I know earlier on it was "The Establishment" who was to blame for True Conservatives like Cain and Bachmann not winning or Palin not running.
Lately it's evolved to Romney winning because
Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 02, 2012 01:15 PM (SY2Kh)
heard him belting out "I've Been Working On The Railroad" in the
bathroom.
Honestly, in light of previous comments, I wouldn't be surprised to find out he was singing/humming the Aggie fight-song, which does include a line from The Eyes of Texas, which is sung to the same tune.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 02, 2012 01:15 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: mofo at April 02, 2012 01:15 PM (6V1UP)
Posted by: BuddyPC at April 02, 2012 01:15 PM (KCuY9)
One anecdote is that a couple of campaign managers for rival campaigns heard him belting out "I've Been Working On The Railroad" in the bathroom.
This is completely fucking nuts. I sing "Hang Down your Head, Tom Dooley" like a normal guy.
Posted by: WalrusRex at April 02, 2012 01:16 PM (jUZRg)
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at April 02, 2012 01:16 PM (1hM1d)
I know its confusing without the score-card, but those two are really the same thing.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 02, 2012 01:16 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Soona at April 02, 2012 01:16 PM (TRGoi)
33 Who cares? I'm (still) a Perry fan, and I don't think it matters why his message didn't sell- it didn't sell. There's no use trying to "explain it" at this point.
I'm still a Perry fan too, AllenG. ....I don't think it was a case of "his message didn't sell", because Romney and Santorum have been shamlessly stealing parts of Perry's message.
I think that Perry probably didn't forsee being attacked so viciously from his own side. ....He wasn't prepared to punch people in his own party, like they were punching him.
The back surgery? He probably thought he could heal up on the run. Guys are like that. .....But I know from experience, that all it takes is making a movement in a wrong way...and that can set you back, wipe out whatever healing has happened and put you back into serious pain territory.
*sigh* ....I still think that Perry would make a great President.
People can say what they will about his 'gaffes' and his 'Ooops' moment. ....The thing is, even when Perry was struggling to get out what he was trying to say....what he actually had to say was still a lot better than what I've been hearing from the other guys running. ....And he's the one with the record of doing what he says.
Posted by: wheatie at April 02, 2012 01:17 PM (+5U+B)
Posted by: maddogg at April 02, 2012 01:17 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Cast Iron at April 02, 2012 01:17 PM (EL+OC)
What else does one humm when laying down a long piece of track?
Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 02, 2012 01:17 PM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 02, 2012 01:17 PM (JxMoP)
Hah! I see they've gotten to ace.
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 02, 2012 01:17 PM (KNvk+)
Taking pills and getting high is a proud long-time tradition of our Texas governors.
re: Ann Richards (D), Dolph Briscoe (D) (oops - that was electric shock treatments while governor)
Posted by: TexasJew at April 02, 2012 01:17 PM (z8HSj)
Am I the only one who wasn't on board with Perry at all? I mean, Governor of Texas vs. The guy who ran against George Bush. Frankly, it'd be Obama's dream. "You mean we can just cut and paste our ads?"
This isn't to say Mittens is much better, but I just don't think this country was going to vote for another Texan again, even if he was different on the issues from W.
Posted by: tsrblke at April 02, 2012 01:17 PM (SYrwI)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 02, 2012 01:18 PM (8y9MW)
Obama did not become President through skill or ability for the most part. He got there on luck and timing. Which is true of a lot of politics, on the right and left. Had it been 2008 instead of 2010, Mike Castle would have easily beat what's her name in the primary and would now likely be a Senator. If this were 2008 instead of 2012, I would probably be more appreciative of Romney, instead of being disappointed that he will be the nominee.
Timing and luck are quite a bit of it. Which is also why Perry had to jump in - the timing lucked exactly right for him and one can't let a chance like that get away. Unfortunately, it did not turn out well for him, he did not have luck on his side. He was all gaffes and mistakes.
Even Romney's campaign is based on timing and luck. timing in that Obama is so bad, even a mediocre candidate like Romney has a chance at beating him. Luck in that no decent GOP opponent got in the primary, leaving it his for the taking.
Posted by: Monkeytoe at April 02, 2012 01:18 PM (sOx93)
I wish that Mitt Romney were history on the national stage . . . maybe he will be in November (IF he's the so-called Republican nominee).
. . . . at lease I hope so
Perry/West 2012
Posted by: Pragmatic at April 02, 2012 01:18 PM (lTnzg)
Posted by: tasker at April 02, 2012 01:18 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: I've been banging Anna Chapman for some time now at April 02, 2012 01:19 PM (8sCoq)
That's the second time I've heard this today. I didn't actually know ; I thought all Texans sang the "Eyes of Texas" version, regardless of alma mater.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 02, 2012 01:19 PM (QTHTd)
I think so. And that was the right choice.
Jindal will have his day. He's toiling away and, from what I understand, doing well in LA. As soon as Obama is kicked out, the oil from the Gulf will flow as will regional jobs and money. He'll be ascendant with reasonable seasoning. By then we'll have forgiven the GOP 2009 State of the Union address and be looking for competent national executives. Jindal is a smart guy, and we desperately need them.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 02, 2012 01:19 PM (eHIJJ)
Maybe he just got done destroying a Nazi train depot.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 02, 2012 01:19 PM (SY2Kh)
Err... Like Mittens, John McCain, George HW Bush, Ronald Reagan, ... shall I continue?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 02, 2012 01:19 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: polynikes at April 02, 2012 01:19 PM (kg7Iv)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 02, 2012 01:20 PM (piMMO)
I can guarantee it wasn't the t.u. fight song. It may have been the Aggie fight song- as mentioned above.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 02, 2012 01:21 PM (8y9MW)
Pain pills are poor excuse for Perry's debate performance. Didn't Ted Roosevelt finish a speech once after he had been shot?
Posted by: maddogg at April 02, 2012 01:22 PM (OlN4e)
As far as the "Establishment" their guilt is not in supporting Romney early and often, it was in not working harder to make sure someone better ran. They had three F*ing years to sort out this situation, and the best candidates they could come up with was a lover or Ethanol Mandates that dropped out before the first race, a guy who would have made a better debate showing with a cardboard cutout, and a guy who thinks mandates are the way to go AT THE STATE LEVEL.
Dude rly? 3 years and the most critical election in recent history, that was the top shelf you establishment types could come up with? It is an embarrassing F*ing failure.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose of The & Liberation Front. at April 02, 2012 01:23 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: teej at April 02, 2012 01:23 PM (MYQ7K)
Something to think about.
Posted by: toby928© at April 02, 2012 01:23 PM (GTbGH)
The Republican "Establishment" is what it is, which isn't to say it controls EVERYTHING, just that it/they have undue influence over events, due to having shedloads of money, positions of power and their voices in the media.
Ask them, they'll tell you they exist, but they consider themselves to BE the party, so it's not like they're hiding anything.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 02, 2012 01:23 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Jones in CO at April 02, 2012 01:24 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at April 02, 2012 01:24 PM (1hM1d)
No, I wasn't a Perry fan either. I voted for Kinky in '06, for instance. The only reason I voted Perry in '10 was to keep the thoroughly evil Bill White from getting anywhere. I would rather Debra Medina had stayed sane, but, well, that's Texas for you :^/
I was a bit more muted with the Perry criticisms this time, because the field he was running against in the national Republican race these past 12 months has been so godawful.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 02, 2012 01:24 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: nickless at April 02, 2012 01:24 PM (MMC8r)
McCain is gone from presidential consideration, as is Bush. Reagan didn't make a fool of himself the first run, and neither did Romney.
Yeah, Perry's history.
Posted by: pep at April 02, 2012 01:24 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: ace at April 02, 2012 01:24 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 02, 2012 05:19 PM (QTHTd)
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The only fight song one is able to here in TX in mid-October is Boomer Sooner. It seems to drown out "Eyes of Texas" every time.
Posted by: Soona at April 02, 2012 01:25 PM (TRGoi)
Sorry. I was a Perry fan. Was. He screwed the pooch with that comment, and I never looked back.
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at April 02, 2012 01:25 PM (dM1NM)
If my aunt had balls and a mustache, she'd be my uncle
badump tissssssss...
I'll be in the Rainbow Room all week
Posted by: Jones in CO at April 02, 2012 01:25 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Rich Fader at April 02, 2012 01:25 PM (7HWzJ)
Posted by: TexasJew at April 02, 2012 01:26 PM (z8HSj)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at April 02, 2012 01:26 PM (XPlSt)
I'll point out that both McCain and Bush went from making "fool
I don't know that he will, but I don't know that he won't, either.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 02, 2012 01:26 PM (8y9MW)
And fraud. His campaign seems to have disabled the credit-card verification again.
Posted by: Victor Fleming at April 02, 2012 01:27 PM (ZKzrr)
Bah. You know what I meant.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 02, 2012 01:28 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 02, 2012 01:28 PM (JIDLg)
Bah. You know what I meant.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 02, 2012 05:28 PM (8y9MW)
Very striking indeed.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 02, 2012 01:28 PM (DrWcr)
Well, which is it? Is the establishment all powerful and therefore responsible for Romney, or is it not, in which case, why are you complaining? Furthermore, how exactly does the establishment "come up with" better candidates? My first choice (Ryan) didn't want to run. Neither did Daniels or Christie. Do you think the establishment has a magic hat out of which they pull spectacular candidates, or that they somehow chose to go with mediocre candidates, just because?
Posted by: pep at April 02, 2012 01:29 PM (6TB1Z)
I think it'll be different with Perry. Remember he didn't really plan on running, but there was a desperate search for a credible (i.e. electable) conservative to fill the gap between Romney and the vanity candidates after Pawlenty flamed out.
I don't see Perry as someone who's spent his adult life harboring an overwhelming ambition to be President and would be surprised if he ran again.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 02, 2012 01:29 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: nickless at April 02, 2012 01:29 PM (MMC8r)
>>Any other Louisiana politician, that sentence would end "...in court"
Hey, that's not fair.
It doesn't always work out that way.
Posted by: David Vitter at April 02, 2012 01:29 PM (XdlcF)
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at April 02, 2012 01:30 PM (ggRof)
For an agonizing 43 seconds.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 02, 2012 01:31 PM (cHZB7)
>>And getting his opponents' divorce records unsealed.
I never like these "what might have been"s because it all goes back to what's-her-name refusing to go to a sex club.
I guess that has been the cause of much doooooom throughout the ages.
Posted by: Mama AJ at April 02, 2012 01:32 PM (XdlcF)
I once volunteered to chair a huge fundraiser while on vicodin.
Posted by: Justamom at April 02, 2012 05:02 PM (Sptt
Which school? I may have worked with you. heh
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 02, 2012 01:32 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Zombie Whitney Houston at April 02, 2012 01:32 PM (jucos)
Posted by: steevy at April 02, 2012 01:32 PM (7W3wI)
This reminds me -- I have a question of etiquette for the 'rons.
My blood runs burnt orange. There's an Okie I happen to know, who I'd like to stab in the neck with a fork. A real cocksucker.
Question: Do I have to wait until Texas wins the 2012 Texas-OU game, or can I just go ahead and do it now?
Posted by: Phinn at April 02, 2012 01:33 PM (KNtHw)
For an agonizing 43 seconds.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 02, 2012 05:31 PM (cHZB7)
I still can't believe that one. That's a seriously easy question to BS through.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 02, 2012 01:33 PM (DrWcr)
Posted by: teej at April 02, 2012 01:33 PM (MYQ7K)
Posted by: Special Joey Biden at April 02, 2012 01:33 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at April 02, 2012 05:30 PM (ggRof)
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Just thought I'd complete the list.
Posted by: Soona at April 02, 2012 01:34 PM (TRGoi)
"Good health matters. Age matters."
So true.
We were so lucky to get the Gipper in the condition he was in at his advanced age.
In retrospect, I'm not entirely sure that we deserved him back then.
And we sure as hell wouldn't deserve him today.
F*cking GOLDMAN mother f*cking SACHS has choosen the GOP nominee.
GOLDMAN mother f*cking SACHS!!!
Posted by: Zombie Shane at April 02, 2012 01:34 PM (hUcgo)
Posted by: Max Power at April 02, 2012 01:34 PM (+wxCD)
Typical Perry. The intelligent-design crowd got to him in the same way. Illegal immigration, ditto.
Perry knows his base and he knows his donors. And that's *all* he knows.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 02, 2012 01:34 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Dr. Heinz Goldsachsmertz at April 02, 2012 01:34 PM (sPO/s)
Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at April 02, 2012 01:34 PM (DGIjM)
I gave an oral presentation on mescaline once.
I think it went ok.
The purple elephant in the back of the room seemed to enjoy it. Not advisable conditions to imagine your audience naked, though.
Posted by: garrett at April 02, 2012 01:35 PM (IUwie)
Posted by: stupid voters who don't care what your saying, only that you appear weak because you're using a stoo at April 02, 2012 01:35 PM (sPO/s)
I was a Perry fan at first, but it was not only the debate appearances that soured me on him. Perry really is something of a village idiot, I really don't think you can blame the whole thing on painkillers. Also, his record was a mixed bag and the open border stuff really spooked me. I also don't know how you can call Mitt a flip flopper when Perry was Al Gore's campaign chairman in Texas and praised HillaryCare.
Bottom line, Perry would have easily lost to Obama, and in terms of policy, I see it as a push between Romney and Perry, with Mitt wrapped in a MUCH more electable package.
Posted by: BradleyHarm at April 02, 2012 01:36 PM (0kf1G)
Posted by: Bawney Fwank at April 02, 2012 01:37 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Darin H at April 02, 2012 01:37 PM (JU81C)
My blood runs burnt orange. There's an Okie I happen to know, who I'd like to stab in the neck with a fork. A real cocksucker.
Question: Do I have to wait until Texas wins the 2012 Texas-OU game, or can I just go ahead and do it now?
Posted by: Phinn at April 02, 2012 05:33 PM (KNtHw)
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Proper etiquette? You must always bow to the victors.
Posted by: Soona at April 02, 2012 01:38 PM (TRGoi)
He's out of the race. You don't have to continue to crap on him with your disingenuous spin.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 02, 2012 01:38 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: rd at April 02, 2012 01:38 PM (9sUlj)
Yeah, but when they don't, there's no accident to analyze. It's the same as coincidence thing. You don't notice when coincidences don't occur.
Posted by: toby928© at April 02, 2012 01:39 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Phinn at April 02, 2012 05:33 PM (KNtHw)
Why wait? They breed like they are from Arkansas.
Posted by: Ammo Dump at April 02, 2012 01:39 PM (WUWb9)
Meh, Hillary was invincible, too. The primary/debate process is like gravity or water -- just waiting for one to make a mistake. And he's my governor and I like him.
Gov. Perry could have requested one of those way-cool Dick Cavett Show high-backed swivel bar-stool looking chairs.
Or been carried onto the stage on his sick-bed like Jim Bowie. THAT would have been some stagecraft.
Posted by: furious at April 02, 2012 01:39 PM (gB9nl)
I think it went ok.
The purple elephant in the back of the roomseemed to enjoy it. Not advisable conditions to imagine your audience naked, though. Posted by: garrett at April 02, 2012 05:35 PM
It wasn't a trunk?
Posted by: huerfano at April 02, 2012 01:39 PM (bAGA/)
Posted by: 2nd Amendment Mother at April 02, 2012 01:40 PM (L4CWX)
Percocets at the very least. My sister still takes straight oxycodone after some botched back surgeries and they confuse the hell out of you. It's probably what Perry was taking.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 02, 2012 01:41 PM (7+pP9)
It's good to be reminded that sometimes a Romney is just a Romney.
Posted by: Filly at April 02, 2012 01:42 PM (obg3V)
Or maybe this is why...
Q: What do you do when an Aggie throws a grenade at you?
A: Pull the pin, release the handle and throw it back.
Posted by: furious at April 02, 2012 01:43 PM (gB9nl)
Then I'll probably collapse and have a seizure.
(Bachmann made me a little angry and disappointed. I don't know if I've gotten that across.)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 02, 2012 01:43 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: polynikes at April 02, 2012 01:43 PM (8Kbi6)
Heh. As art, it's an "Iowahawk."
I look forward to countless other mockeries as November approaches.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 02, 2012 01:44 PM (eHIJJ)
I cannot stand up ( straight with no support )for more than a few minutes.
ya just can't ; Perry just couldn't.
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, curious progressive capitalist at April 02, 2012 01:44 PM (Dll6b)
Posted by: Soona at April 02, 2012 01:44 PM (TRGoi)
Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at April 02, 2012 01:45 PM (eHwT1)
Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at April 02, 2012 01:45 PM (DGIjM)
So when I have this basal cell thingy removed from the side of my nose by the plastic surgeon, should I ask for Percocet rather that Vicodan? (Vicodan gives me the heebie-jeebies anyway, yet that's always the first thing prescribed.)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 02, 2012 01:45 PM (UOM48)
Does Perry have any of those drugs left over? I'll be needing some
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 02, 2012 01:45 PM (QTHTd)
Bummer what could have been.
Yeah, I've still got two in a desk drawer. Who knows?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 02, 2012 01:46 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 02, 2012 01:46 PM (QTHTd)
It is, unless Romney has a heart attack or something similar.
Posted by: toby928© at April 02, 2012 01:46 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Mike James at April 02, 2012 01:48 PM (spLGA)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 02, 2012 05:45 PM (UOM4
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Why don't you try aspirin, ibupofen, or Aleve first. You might be surprised.
Posted by: Soona at April 02, 2012 01:48 PM (TRGoi)
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, curious progressive capitalist at April 02, 2012 01:48 PM (Dll6b)
Posted by: Mittens at April 02, 2012 01:48 PM (jucos)
Posted by: The Masses at April 02, 2012 01:51 PM (cYQg0)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at April 02, 2012 01:51 PM (0xqzf)
You Aggie and Longhorn people take your college shit far too seriously.
You graduated. You found an alum that got you your first job. Moooooooove onnnnnnnn!
Posted by: reason (SMU alum, wheere shit is not taken far too seriously) at April 02, 2012 01:52 PM (sPO/s)
Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at April 02, 2012 01:52 PM (DGIjM)
Posted by: Soona at April 02, 2012 05:48 PM (TRGoi)
The cancer is deep. The plastic surgery is going to require a longish recovery time.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 02, 2012 01:52 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: polynikes at April 02, 2012 01:52 PM (8Kbi6)
Posted by: Beto at April 02, 2012 01:53 PM (cYQg0)
Posted by: X at April 02, 2012 01:55 PM (8Yc/9)
I was a Perry fan at first, but it was not only the debate appearances that soured me on him. Perry really is something of a village idiot, I really don't think you can blame the whole thing on painkillers. Also, his record was a mixed bag and the open border stuff really spooked me. I also don't know how you can call Mitt a flip flopper when Perry was Al Gore's campaign chairman in Texas and praised HillaryCare.
Bottom line, Perry would have easily lost to Obama, and in terms of policy, I see it as a push between Romney and Perry, with Mitt wrapped in a MUCH more electable package.
Posted by: BradleyHarm at April 02, 2012 05:36 PM (0kf1G)
There I was....trying to think good thoughts about having to vote for Romney. ....And then I read some bullshit like this, with all the old lies that were shot down months ago.
Fuck me. ....I don't know now. I might just be one of those complete assholes who stays home on election day.
The thought of having to hear the Romneybots crow about how "Romney was the best guy" and how "Romney has been given a madate" or some such shit.....will make me sorry I voted for him. ....So I'm screwed either way.
Posted by: wheatie at April 02, 2012 01:56 PM (+5U+B)
1. "Proper etiquette? You must always bow to the victors." (Soona)
2. "Why wait? They breed like they are from Arkansas." (Ammo Dump)
3. "You'd better do it now, because Texas isn't going to beat OU this year." (digitalbrownshirt)
I appreciate the input, fellas, but the more I think about it, I think the "correct" way to go is to wait until he's watching the final agonizing seconds of the Texas-OU game, then drive my car through his sliding glass window.
I may have to re-mount the longhorns on the front of my Caddie.
You know, for the full effect.
Good talk. Thanks for helping me clear this one up.
Posted by: Phinn at April 02, 2012 01:56 PM (KNtHw)
I mean, hell, our "arch rivals" were apparently TCU. And we couldn't even bother to make a big deal out of that...
Yay! SMU won! Let's go drink at The Library and hit on their Tri Delts!
Boo, TCU won. Let's go drink at Home, and see what our Tri Delts are up to...
*yawn*
Posted by: reason (SMU alum, where shit is not taken far too seriously) at April 02, 2012 01:59 PM (sPO/s)
Posted by: X at April 02, 2012 02:00 PM (8Yc/9)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at April 02, 2012 02:07 PM (d6QMz)
Not a Conspiracy by an Elite....
Nope.
Posted by:The Virgina Republican Party - Simplifying your ballot since 2012
Not at all.
Posted by: The Iowa Republican Party - Oops! 'Tother guy won
Perish the thought.
Posted by: The Maine Republican Party - Allllmost done with the counting
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 02, 2012 02:09 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 02, 2012 02:09 PM (BuSM8)
Posted by: Emily Litella, Never Mind at April 02, 2012 02:10 PM (RVjEq)
Posted by: rd at April 02, 2012 02:11 PM (9sUlj)
So when I have this basal cell thingy removed from the side of my nose by the plastic surgeon, should I ask for Percocet rather that Vicodan? (Vicodan gives me the heebie-jeebies anyway, yet that's always the first thing prescribed.)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 02, 2012 05:45 PM (UOM4
The hydrocodone in vicodin makes me queasy and itchy. Percocets are better pain relievers (for me) and are stronger than vicodins. For either one, try to get the doctor to prescribe the ones with the least acetaminophen (375 mg IIRC) because it's a horrible medication to take more than two days in a row. It's very hard on the liver.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 02, 2012 02:26 PM (7+pP9)
Perry was too much like Sarah Palin to be favored by the self-perceived king of republicans, Karl Rove. You will no doubt recall how he started the rumor of "disagreement" between Bush and Perry.
I vehemently agree with ABO (Anybody but Obama), but Romney is not only an unmitigated fool but, in my personal opinion, merely an Obama-lite. I can tell you the people in the part of the country I live in are fed up with the entire GOP because they are acting exactly like the loons on the left...their opinion and wishes are the only thing that count.
I also far from convinced that Romney can beat the Marxist in the WH. If the GOP doesn't win, it will mean not only the complete destruction of the country but the end of the GOP as well. People are fed up with both!
Posted by: neverends at April 02, 2012 02:27 PM (wV3jx)
The cancer is deep. The plastic surgery is going to require a longish recovery time.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 02, 2012 05:52 PM (UOM4
You should definitely be prescribed percocets.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 02, 2012 02:30 PM (7+pP9)
Yep... history is made of weird things...
Napoleon, upon graduating from Military school, sent letters all around Europe looking for a Job, and got a scathing letter back from some secretary in Russia, saying he was not qualified to be a Private... and some say this was the start of his disdain for the Russian army...
Hitler was hit by his own sides Mustard Gas in WW1.. and spent months in the hospital... could have easily died...
Some say Patton was on his way back to America, to run for President when he had a car accident and died...
History is full of accidents...
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 02, 2012 03:09 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: wheatie at April 02, 2012 05:17 PM (+5U+B)
Agree, wheatie. By far he stomps the shit out of everyone else.
Posted by: JoAnne at April 02, 2012 04:48 PM (GCsZz)
Posted by: elizabethe at April 02, 2012 05:04 PM (T03Ll)
@58: "58On a lighter note, good news about Treyvon's status: he appears to have his Swiss Cheese impression down pat."
Facebook status: Heartbroken
Posted by: Trayvon Martin at April 02, 2012 05:21 PM (FsqHK)
Posted by: mattag08 at April 02, 2012 05:25 PM (LakVK)
Posted by: Rodney C. Johnson at April 02, 2012 05:54 PM (kE9gI)
Posted by: waelse1 at April 02, 2012 07:31 PM (VaU8E)
Texas Republicans love to use eminent domain for ridiculous things. See the Ballpark in Arlington via George W Bush.
Posted by: thejerk at April 02, 2012 07:32 PM (X//fL)
None of these are because of Rick Perry.
I was glad to see his humiliating defeat, the GOP needs to stop nominating candidates based on how loud they pray.
Posted by: Get Real at April 02, 2012 08:15 PM (XDRsa)
It may not have been a "conspiracy by the Elite", BUT: if it had been Cain who had bad debates, Hannity, Rush, Levin, etc would've defended him. These conservative media leaders became Herman's personal defense attorneys 24/7 over his cheating ways but they never lifted a finger in defense of Perry. If they had, Perry would have overcome it.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at April 02, 2012 09:53 PM (KL49F)
One anecdote is that a couple of campaign managers for rival campaigns heard him belting out "I've Been Working On The Railroad" in the bathroom. Eh.
--
"The Eyes of Texas Are Upon You" Longhorn anthem sung by an ol' Aggie Cheerleader? Hm. Reaching across the aisle, "Can you spare a square?"
Posted by: the audacity of abhorence at April 03, 2012 03:44 AM (lpWVn)
The Republican Party allowed Perry perpetual passes as "winning" any debate by rolling his eyes and tapping his toe while his Gubernatorial PRIMARY opponent mopped the floor with his scalp even. Yes, the laugh track status quo cheered Perry as if "winner". Only so long as his Party insiders can fix the media and ballot boxes. But hardly the makings for the national GOP ticket. Unless you're stuck on that bandwagon being another fool in a crowd of fools, crowning the "electable" king of fools [insert the status quo politically correct name].
"A late start in thinking about the presidency, a very ill-timed surgery... "
Bad Judgment does not a good president make. And given his high ratings with his "late start", the timing was working on Perry's behalf. So long as he remained a poster boy for "success", rah-rah! Exposure melted his facade.
Not a Conspiracy? Perry conspired towards his potus campaign, promising that he only wants to be Governor of Texas in order to get his final electoral victory, promising to not campaign for POTUS while in office as Governor. If anything, Perry's potus campaign announcement was premature, no "late start".
Posted by: the audacity of abhorence at April 03, 2012 04:20 AM (lpWVn)
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