April 06, 2012

CNN: Zimmerman's Lawyers Say He Said "Punks;" Audio Expert Backs Him Up
— Ace

Actually, it's too bad he committed to this, as a report on CNN suggested the word was "cold" (as in "it's f'n' cold out" -- which it was on that night).

Still, you read it here first, thanks to Idea Catchers (with @rdbrewer4 posting it).

But an expert says the word is "punks." (I mean another expert-- our own expert weighed in, and nailed it.)

George Zimmerman told his lawyers that he whispered "punks," not a racial slur, in the moments before he shot Trayvon Martin, his attorneys told CNN on Thursday.

..

Zimmerman attorneys Hal Ulrig and Craig Sonner told CNN their client told them that he said, "F---ing punks."

Forensic audio expert Tom Owen, who analyzed 911 recordings, agreed the garbled word that raised controversy was "punks," not the racial slur some people said they heard

When Owen, chairman emeritus of the American Board of Recorded Evidence, used a computer application to remove cell phone interference, the word became clearer, he said. After discussions with linguists, he said he became convinced that Zimmerman said "punks."

Now, watch CNN dodge a correction, like every other media organization refusing to own up to its mistakes in this case:

CNN also enhanced the sound of the 911 call, and several members of CNN's editorial staff repeatedly reviewed the tape but could reach no consensus on whether Zimmerman used a slur.

They couldn't reach a consensus? That's funny, when I watched it, CNN's reporter and sound "expert" were both pretty damn sure he said "coons."

Now, that's what made it to the TV.

Is CNN now telling us that behind-the-scenes they could reach no "consensus," and yet permitted a defamatory report to run anyway?

Hey CNN -- that's not a good position to stake out for yourselves in a defamation lawsuit. If you ran this report, ginning up the "racial hatred" storyline while behind the scenes you doubted it, that is pretty much "malice" right there.

You are permitted to get away with mistakes if made with the good-faith belief you were right, even if you turn out to be wrong.

If you're saying you actually doubted this report was accurate, but ran it anyway?

That's a problem, CNN.

Maybe you should abandon this claim and just correct the record. Might be cheaper for you.


Posted by: Ace at 11:51 AM | Comments (201)
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1 We wouldn't even be having this conversation if Zim hadn't gone vigilante.

Posted by: SFGoth at April 06, 2012 11:52 AM (dZ756)

2 I wouldn't put any faith in anything Tom Owen said.

Posted by: xbradtc at April 06, 2012 11:52 AM (p3cEJ)

3
They did what they set out to accomplish.

Posted by: soothie at April 06, 2012 11:53 AM (G/zuv)

4 How do we go from "coons" to "goons" to "punks"?

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 06, 2012 11:54 AM (niZvt)

5 Yeah,  Owen is trying to make himself credible. He's not.

Posted by: François Villon at April 06, 2012 11:54 AM (yyxSW)

6
Well, punk is STILL racist.  Cause I SAYS SO!!!

Why do you resist me much???

Posted by: Reverand Al at April 06, 2012 11:55 AM (C8hzL)

7 Yeah, the IdeaCatchers link doesn't work.

Posted by: © Sponge at April 06, 2012 11:55 AM (UK9cE)

8 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 06, 2012 11:55 AM (8y9MW)

9 If you look at Trayvon's twitter pics and texts.....the word 'punk' comes to mind. ....He was working hard at trying to be one.

Posted by: wheatie at April 06, 2012 11:57 AM (+5U+B)

10 not the racial slur some people said they heard

Emphasis mine.

Note: "Some people."  Not "We," not even "Our anchor," or "Mr. So-and-so, our guest."  Nope: "Some people."  Because, you see, they're not biased.  They say so, so it must be true.  And if they're not biased, and he didn't say 'coons,' then they couldn't possibly have heard that word.

I f*cking hate the "passive voice," and I f*cking hate the MFM.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 06, 2012 11:58 AM (8y9MW)

11 You would expect CNN to reflect the intelligence and moral character of its founder, and it does.

Posted by: maddogg at April 06, 2012 11:58 AM (OlN4e)

12

Coons might be a common racial slur in Florida, but here in Oklahoma I've never heard a person under the age of 50 use it.

 

SFGoth: DIAF. Some of us are okay with the idea of neighbors watching out for each other. It's too bad for the "punk" in question that he didn't consider the guy he was punching might have a gun.

Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at April 06, 2012 11:58 AM (eHwT1)

13 1 We wouldn't even be having this conversation if Zim hadn't gone vigilante.
 

Posted by: SFGoth at April 06, 2012 03:52 PM (dZ756)

 

So its your contention that its OK for Trayvon, to walk around a neighborhood he does NOT live in... but is not OK for Zimmerman to walk around in the neighborhood he DOES live in?

 

And I guess I should no longer keep an eye on my neighborhood, which has mostly 70-80 year old retired people in it... and call the cops if I see somthing weird???

 

and of course... self defense is totaly out of the question...

 

Its funny that it takes a Village to raise a child, so the States involvement in my Kids is OK... but it does NOT take a Village to defend a Village?

Posted by: Wicked Witch of North Alaska at April 06, 2012 11:59 AM (lZBBB)

14 4 How do we go from "coons" to "goons" to "punks"?

Oh, so now you people need a flow chart?

Posted by: CNN at April 06, 2012 11:59 AM (Qxdfp)

15 I think he said "Ekke Ekke Ekke Ekke Ptangya Ziiinnggggggg"

Posted by: MikeTheMoose now with dark clouds! at April 06, 2012 11:59 AM (0q2P7)

16 15 I think he said "Ekke Ekke Ekke Ekke Ptangya Ziiinnggggggg"  

Posted by: MikeTheMoose now with dark clouds! at April 06, 2012 03:59 PM (0q2P7)

 

Klatu, Verata... somthing???

Posted by: Ashe, CNN Voice Analyst at April 06, 2012 12:01 PM (lZBBB)

17 Zimmerman may have been referring to a rock music genre that developed between 1974 and 1976 in the United States, the United Kingdom, and Australia. Rooted in garage rock and other forms of what is now known as protopunk music, punk rock bands eschewed perceived excesses of mainstream 1970s rock.

Posted by: Soledad O'Brien at April 06, 2012 12:01 PM (QKKT0)

18

Since it's Good Friday:



Were You There? http://t.co/CvFSEmR9


Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at April 06, 2012 12:02 PM (0xqzf)

19 I think SFGoth needs to get his fuckin' shinebox.

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 06, 2012 12:02 PM (QTHTd)

20 You know it takes a union to defend a village

Posted by: Jean at April 06, 2012 12:02 PM (uekSI)

21 It's too bad for the "punk" in question that he didn't consider the guy he was punching might have a gun.

On a similar note, Dallas Area Rapid Transit (the Dallas County mass transit system) has had a rash of shootings at rail/bus stations.  Their response was first to talk up their safety record, and then to ask legal CCW holders not to carry weapons.

Amazingly, that didn't cut down on the violence.

So now their big idea is that they'll put cameras up at all of their stations and having someone (in a central location) monitoring the cameras.

So they'll know right away when you've been shot, I guess.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 06, 2012 12:02 PM (8y9MW)

22

Lawn. Off.

Fucking punks.

Posted by: fluffy at April 06, 2012 12:03 PM (O6q63)

23 I can't believe no one has pointed out the fact that Zimmerman is 28 years-old - not 82. "F'n coons"? Really?!? He's as likely to have referred to the f'n punk as an "infernal scallywag"...

Posted by: VoiceofReason at April 06, 2012 12:04 PM (ugsCt)

24 “Seasoned” NBC Producer Behind Edited Zimmerman Clip

http://tinyurl.com/7a7jv79

http://tinyurl.com/7lte2yg

Posted by: kbdabear at April 06, 2012 12:04 PM (Y+DPZ)

25 Since this doesn't belong at the bottom of a Murcokehead thread:

http://tinyurl.com/8xpj7r4


Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at April 06, 2012 12:04 PM (Aaxiu)

26 Over the top charge: Repeated every 20 minutes for 3 days.

Correction: 4:32am, Sun. morning.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 06, 2012 12:05 PM (JEpGb)

27 PlaTOONS

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at April 06, 2012 12:06 PM (0TdUk)

28 23: See 12. I also mentioned it when we were discussing the "punks" vs. "coons" argument awhile back. He might as well have used the term "pickeninny".

Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at April 06, 2012 12:06 PM (eHwT1)

29 I'm still on the last thread but doesn't Murcuntsky look like a Turian from Mass Effect?

Posted by: Mr Pink at April 06, 2012 12:06 PM (nc8fQ)

30 I was working outside that night, and while it was sorta cool for central Florida, it's wasn't really that cold. A bit damp, though.

Posted by: cirby at April 06, 2012 12:07 PM (yMfUu)

31 19 I think SFGoth needs to get his fuckin' shinebox.

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 06, 2012 04:02 PM (QTHTd)


Cut him some slack, he's from SF; every time he checks out something suspicious it tries to f%ck him in the @ss.

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at April 06, 2012 12:07 PM (Aaxiu)

32 Eh, I guess digitalbrownshirts beat me to it. Great minds and all that, I suppose...

Posted by: VoiceofReason at April 06, 2012 12:08 PM (ugsCt)

33

CNN's total audience is less than that of the Cartoon Network.  As a percentage of the registered electorate CNN's regular audience is around 0.29%.  Less than one-third of one single percent.  Ergo isn't this sort of like worrying about whether a hollow tree in a vacant forest makes any noise before it disintegrates? 

Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at April 06, 2012 12:08 PM (f8XyF)

34 I think Rush was right today when he spoke about this--these are the things that the Media wants to be true, so they jump at every chance to "prove" them.  Because one of their core ideas is that all whites are racists and all blacks are saints. 

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 06, 2012 12:08 PM (DuH+r)

35

“Seasoned” NBC Producer Behind Edited Zimmerman Clip

 

 

Of course he was seasoned. You don't think a rookie has those kind of race baiting video editing skills. I thought I heard he was keeping his job too. Compare and contrast that with the ESPN editor and the Lin headline. No media double standard there. Bravo NBC.

Posted by: landofskybluewater at April 06, 2012 12:08 PM (JoIcn)

36 Regardless of whether or not Zimmerman did something illegal, this had better cost CNN some cold, hard cash.  And lots of it!

Some blogger should put off of this (CNN's behavior) on a timeline demonstrating the malice/bias.  Save the page for future use.  Tag as 'example of media bias exhibit #567,326,523,487'

Posted by: Tonic Dog at April 06, 2012 12:10 PM (X/+QT)

37 Apparently, CNN is trying to f*ck this chicken as much as possible.

Posted by: Penfold at April 06, 2012 12:11 PM (1PeEC)

38 #JusticeForLaytron

Posted by: toby928© at April 06, 2012 12:11 PM (GTbGH)

39 "but could reach no consensus on whether Zimmerman used a slur."

I've determined that CNN actually wrote 'coon-sensus' ... racists!

Posted by: Ignatz D. mouse at April 06, 2012 12:11 PM (2dU/2)

40 Nice to see Zimmerman has lawyered up. You should have a lawyer's card behind your CCW permit.

Posted by: Jean at April 06, 2012 12:11 PM (uekSI)

41 this whole shitshow is the epitome of the contemporary truism:
play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

unfortunately, the media too often remains immune from reaping what they sow, but the other actors in this comedy, from my ivory tower, appear to be on-schedule with the harvest.

my amazement never ceases with how the left believes attachment of the word "justice" to any terribly unsupportable effort somehow legitimizes their illegal crusades (e.g., "reproductive justice" = infanticide, "environmental justice" = scientific/economic dismemberment, "social justice" = selective bigotry, "hoodie justice" = lynch a hispanic with utter disregard for due process).

Posted by: 0302 at April 06, 2012 12:12 PM (sRWlD)

42 I remember listening to CNN's version like 5 times and hell if i could hear what they were suggesting I hear. Hell --conservative commenters were *hearing* it. Powerful stuff-the power of suggestion.

Posted by: tasker at April 06, 2012 12:13 PM (r2PLg)

43 Is the cnn editor Maureen Dowd? didn't she also 'hear'something that wasn't there?

Posted by: willow at April 06, 2012 12:13 PM (TomZ9)

44 I was on the Daily Kos last night.  Just about every article and diary has something about how those rethugliKKKans feel about those "coons".  I must have seen that word used 30 times.

Posted by: gahomom at April 06, 2012 12:13 PM (xXhWA)

45

"We wouldn't even be having this conversation if Zim hadn't gone vigilante."

 

OR the non-retarded option:

 

We wouldn't be having this conversation if Travon hadn't gotten puffed-up, clocked Zimmerman in the nose, knocked him to the ground, and bounced his head off the pavement like a basketball.

Posted by: Jaws at April 06, 2012 12:13 PM (4I3Uo)

46 Zimmerman should be suing EVERYONE.  Regardless of the outcome of this, he should have attorneys at the ready.

Posted by: © Sponge at April 06, 2012 12:14 PM (UK9cE)

47 Best case scenario a lynch mob tries to exact revenge and he takes them out in self defense.

Posted by: jimmahs phone at April 06, 2012 12:14 PM (N9a2w)

48 I notice we aren't getting like any, "we need a Reagan to save us" talk.  Which we were even up to a few months ago and as is usual in hard times.  My current theory is that post Reagan a lot of conservatives just kept waiting for the white knight with the sharp tongue and beaming smile to take on dc and the media etc. for us.

I have wondered if the 1-2 punch of, "well its Romney and he isn't going to do it" and then Breitbart leaving woke us all up to the realization noone is coming. Its just us. We have to take on the media.  We have to take on education.  We all have something we can do.  Editing a wiki. Saving a video. #StopTweeting etc..

I feel like this has been a mental/emotional and generally transformational hurdle we needed to cross that we all had put of for a very long time.  Breitbart made us not afraid to take them on.  He taught us we could win, losing was still better then not trying, and that they are old and soft and not used to being challenged.  For that I will honor his memory.

Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 06, 2012 12:14 PM (RfvTE)

49 BTW, I heard a bit of Hannity today, and he was playing clips of the racists from the CBC on the House floor.  Truly, if they said this stuff anywhere else it should be actionable libel.

Posted by: toby928© at April 06, 2012 12:14 PM (GTbGH)

50 I'm pretty sure he's saying 'lollygagging whippersnapper'.

Posted by: S Daniel at April 06, 2012 12:14 PM (BVkEs)

51 “Seasoned” NBC Producer Behind Edited Zimmerman Clip

I think that means he's (white) Hispanic. (Clearly they're referring to Adobo.  Although he could be cajun.  Definitely not Midwestern.)

Posted by: AmishDude at April 06, 2012 12:15 PM (T0NGe)

52 I think he said skunks...maybe Zimmerman thought Martin was French?

Posted by: dananjcon at April 06, 2012 12:15 PM (8ieXv)

53 When Owen, chairman emeritus of the American Board of Recorded Evidence, used a computer application to remove cell phone interference, the word became clearer, he said. After discussions with linguists, he said he became convinced that Zimmerman said "punks."


So according to the story in the link, "He provided CNN with a copy of the newly processed audio."....did CNN play that audio?  I can't find it at the link. 

Posted by: Tami at April 06, 2012 12:15 PM (X6akg)

54 Old Zim needs to get an advance on a book and move to Texas.

Posted by: jimmahs phone at April 06, 2012 12:15 PM (N9a2w)

55 "I don't always use racial slurs, but when I do, I prefer not to use c--n "

Posted by: Zimmerman, Most Interesting Man in the World at April 06, 2012 12:16 PM (+usC4)

56 52 I think he said skunks...maybe Zimmerman thought Martin was French?  

Posted by: dananjcon at April 06, 2012 04:15 PM (8ieXv)

 

Zis dizcrimination is not to be tolerated, ma Petite!

Posted by: Pepe Le Pew at April 06, 2012 12:16 PM (lZBBB)

57 --btw this is just what the Liberal media has been caught at--you have some chance of getting other sources on this-- now just imagine the lies the media tell you about what is going on overseas--or in the theaters of the War on Terror where other sources of information are very limited. It's an Information War and we are at war with our own media.... It's unreal.

Posted by: tasker at April 06, 2012 12:16 PM (r2PLg)

58 SCRUNTS!!!!

Posted by: dananjcon at April 06, 2012 12:17 PM (8ieXv)

59 "+usC4", thread winner

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 06, 2012 12:17 PM (QTHTd)

60 BTW, I heard a bit of Hannity today, and he was playing clips of the racists from the CBC on the House floor. Truly, if they said this stuff anywhere else it should be actionable libel.

Posted by: toby928© at April 06, 2012 04:14 PM (GTbGH)

 

 

Did they have their hoodies on while saying it though? Then they're untouchable. I watched the clip when Rep. Rush pulled the stunt of putting on hoodie on the House floor. Embarrasing doesn't even begin to scrape the surface of that stunt.

Posted by: landofskybluewater at April 06, 2012 12:17 PM (JoIcn)

61

1 We wouldn't even be having this conversation if Zim hadn't gone vigilante.

 

We wouldn't even be having this conversation if Zim had been black.

Posted by: wheatie at April 06, 2012 12:18 PM (+5U+B)

62 We wouldn't even be having this conversation if Zim hadn't gone vigilante.

Indeed. If only Trayvon Martin's mother had done the sensible thing, and freed herself from the burdens of an unwanted pregnancy, this also never would have happened.

Posted by: Margaret Sanger at April 06, 2012 12:18 PM (S7ZyK)

63

These duplicitous suckers of cock in the MFM should be ashamed of themselves (yeah, I know they're not).  I don't know if Zimmerman should be criminally charged or not; however, I'm perfectly content to let the local authorities do their job.  What I do know is that supposedly professional journalists were telling outright falsehoods in order to advance a particular agenda.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at April 06, 2012 12:19 PM (M0NzJ)

64 I was on the Daily Kos last night. Just about every article and diary has something about how those rethugliKKKans feel about those "coons". I must have seen that word used 30 times.

You know, liberals are really conversant in racial slurs and stereotypes. The media is always teaching me things I'd never heard before.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 06, 2012 12:19 PM (T0NGe)

65 Maybe Zimmerman thought he was in Louisiana and said "fuckin' coon-ass!" (nickname for Cajuns)

Posted by: kbdabear at April 06, 2012 12:20 PM (Y+DPZ)

66 61 1 We wouldn't even be having this conversation if Zim hadn't gone vigilante.

We wouldn't even be having this conversation if Zim had been black. Posted by: wheatie at April 06, 2012 04:18 PM

Or his father had been Hispanic instead of his mother

Posted by: kbdabear at April 06, 2012 12:21 PM (Y+DPZ)

67 Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at April 06, 2012 04:04 PM (Aaxiu)

If you're going to post random photos of Monica Belluci at least make them good ones.

tinyurl.com/3vd6y2y

Posted by: fozzy at April 06, 2012 12:23 PM (FEzSe)

68 I know why this story is a story and why we are discussing it, but in the context of the world's problems, this is bullshit. And not only is it bullshit, but it is playing into the democratic play book.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 06, 2012 12:24 PM (eCnLg)

69 44 I was on the Daily Kos last night. Just about every article and diary has something about how those rethugliKKKans feel about those "coons". I must have seen that word used 30 times. Posted by: gahomom at April 06, 2012 04:13 PM

One thing Kos is useful for, you get to see what MSNBC is going to talk about ahead of time

Otherwise, it's like visiting a mental institution

Posted by: kbdabear at April 06, 2012 12:24 PM (Y+DPZ)

70 We wouldn't even be having this conversation if Zim hadn't gone vigilante.

Or if Zim had allowed himself to be beat into a coma, or worse.

Yeah, let's blame the guy who was defending himself.

"This is a great plan!  I love this plan!  I'm glad to be a part of it!"

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 06, 2012 12:24 PM (8y9MW)

71 69 I know why this story is a story and why we are discussing it, but in the context of the world's problems, this is bullshit. And not only is it bullshit, but it is playing into the democratic play book. Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 06, 2012 04:24 PM

Right. Let the left own this narrative and if we don't push back, they'll just forget about it

WWBD?

Posted by: kbdabear at April 06, 2012 12:25 PM (Y+DPZ)

72

[ We wouldn't even be having this conversation if Zim hadn't gone vigilante. ]

Yeah, I guess I shouldn't have told those teens at the park to pick up the plastic cup one of them threw on the ground right in front of me. I should have just kept my head down like a scared little pussy and not straightened their shit out ... because things might have gotten violent or something.

 

Posted by: Warden at April 06, 2012 12:26 PM (Gso/k)

73 17 Zimmerman may have been referring to a rock music genre that developed between 1974 and 1976 in the United States, the United Kingdom, and Australia. Rooted in garage rock and other forms of what is now known as protopunk music, punk rock bands eschewed perceived excesses of mainstream 1970s rock. Posted by: Soledad O'Brien at April 06, 2012 04:01 PM (QKKT0) Comedy. Gold.

Posted by: Blaster at April 06, 2012 12:26 PM (Fw2Gg)

74 And not only is it bullshit, but it is playing into the democratic play book.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 06, 2012 04:24 PM (eCnLg)



I think it's a perfect illustration of what we're up against via the media. If it's not this story, it's 100 others.

Posted by: Tami at April 06, 2012 12:26 PM (X6akg)

75 69 I know why this story is a story and why we are discussing it, but in the context of the world's problems, this is bullshit. And not only is it bullshit, but it is playing into the democratic play book. Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 06, 2012 04:24 PM (eCnLg) ****************** Although I mostly agree with your statement--maybe it will be an eye opener for some people--the extend the media goes to-to bullshit. Like I said upthread--the military is in an Information War and it's with our own media--since Vietnam. The media won.

Posted by: tasker at April 06, 2012 12:27 PM (r2PLg)

76 69 I know why this story is a story and why we are discussing it, but in the context of the world's problems, this is bullshit. And not only is it bullshit, but it is playing into the democratic play book. Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 06, 2012 04:24 PM

Kind of like, "let's let their offense run up and down the field and they'll tire themselves out by the fourth quarter"

Ironic nickname ya got there

Posted by: kbdabear at April 06, 2012 12:27 PM (Y+DPZ)

77  What I do know is that supposedly professional journalists were telling outright falsehoods in order to advance a particular agenda.

 

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at April 06, 2012 04:19 PM (M0NzJ)

 

-----------------------------------------------

 

It's more than that.  The media has put Zimmermans life in mortal danger no matter how this turns out or where he eventually goes. 

Posted by: Soona at April 06, 2012 12:27 PM (si4az)

78 MIAMI -- Isiah Thomas arrived at Florida International knowing that he was taking a risk. Three years later, the school didn't see enough reward. The Basketball Hall of Fame player was fired Friday by FIU, after his teams went 26-65 in his three seasons. His hiring came out of nowhere in 2009 -- "No one thought we could pull this off," FIU director of sports and entertainment Pete Garcia proudly said at the time -- and in the end, so did his firing. FIU announced the decision in a simple three-line statement. "We want to thank Isiah Thomas for his three years here at FIU," Garcia said. "However, we have decided to take the program in a different direction." Much like CNN, Isiah Thomas fucks up everything he touches

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 06, 2012 12:27 PM (eCnLg)

79

67 I don't think I've ever seen such a look of misery and dejection on the face of my daughter as I just did a moment ago.

 

--------

 

Never gets old.



 

Posted by: Anachronda at April 06, 2012 12:27 PM (NmR1a)

80 Oh, and being a Liberal means never having to say you're sorry.

Posted by: Blaster at April 06, 2012 12:28 PM (Fw2Gg)

81 I don't know.  I've listened several times now and what I hear, is "I'm a white, male, bitter Republican who is clinging to my guns and Bible and I'm out looking for a minority scapegoat to empty a clip into and just forget about that Hispanic stuff."

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 06, 2012 12:28 PM (Hx5uv)

82 Hate to break it to you rubes but "punks" is just another code word that screams racism.

Posted by: MSM at April 06, 2012 12:28 PM (t0Y1+)

83 Forget politics, we have to push back because, frankly, the MFM and the Proggers are fomenting race war among our fellow citizens.  That cannot be allowed.

Posted by: toby928© at April 06, 2012 12:28 PM (GTbGH)

84 And this story goes to something very fundamental about the US legal system that at the time was ver unique the concept of- Innocent until proven guilty--in a court of law. What is going on here is very antithetical to that.

Posted by: tasker at April 06, 2012 12:29 PM (r2PLg)

85 I was having a discussion with a co-worker the other day and I mentioned how ashamed I am for our news media in this country for the way they've reported this case.

One, I shouldn't know who the fuck Trayvon Martin is as this type of incident happens EVERY DAY somewhere, and I don't need to know about it.

Two, we have TV's in my office with news running all day.  Just looking and seeing the pictures they posted, without doing ANY research on either man, gave me the impression that some mexican convict killed a 12 year old.

The ENTIRE news media fucked this story up SO BAD, I refuse to watch news channels anymore.  They don't report news.  They make (attempted) entertainment much like hollywood.

There is NO SUCH THING as a trusted news broadcast anymore.  Blogs and people in this country are the only ones you can trust nowadays.  Barely.

Posted by: © Sponge at April 06, 2012 12:29 PM (UK9cE)

86 One of the side effects of this entire goat rodeo is that the "press" gave foul mouthed racists everywhere a new (to them) derogatory term that was already in the dustbin of history before they jerked it out again.

The term punk meant a prostitute in Elizabethan slang. A punkateero was a pimp. Maybe Zimmerman was speaking in Elizabethan cant.

Posted by: Bob at April 06, 2012 12:29 PM (PJXbW)

87 I'm glad we finally cleared up what Zimmerman said before he chased Martin down and shot him.

Posted by: Jordan at April 06, 2012 12:30 PM (RSG1I)

88

Gee Ace, who's side are you on?  STHU.  Loose lips sink Soledad O'Brien, all that...

Posted by: JQ Public at April 06, 2012 12:30 PM (NBj0d)

89 Damned teabagger lynch mobs.

Posted by: Vandersloot Cupper 353.5 at April 06, 2012 12:30 PM (0It32)

90

Coons might be a common racial slur in Florida, but here in Oklahoma I've never heard a person under the age of 50 use it.

******

I'm also in OK and was thinking the same thing.  The media tried to attribute a 1970's/1980's racial slur to a guy that was born in the mid-80's.  That makes about as much sense as saying Zimmerman couldn't hear the police dispatcher because his 8-track was turned up too loud.

I lived in North Florida/South Georgia for several years in the '90s.  I've never heard anyone say it since the late '80s.

Posted by: Grim at April 06, 2012 12:30 PM (gyNYk)

91
I sat down with her on the sofa and (as calmly as I could) tried to explain to her why the Republicans think it's okay to kill African Americans.


Hope you explained that most blacks die at the hands of other blacks and *sniff* no one seems to care. *Sob* I guess pretending that it's otherwise helps, huh? But really children deal with the truth better than your lying. *sniff*

Posted by: dagny doesn't want to forget Andrew at April 06, 2012 12:31 PM (CMM9V)

92 Now I play it backwards and this is what I get ....

"Hail Satan ... Hail Satan"

Posted by: CNN Audio Expert at April 06, 2012 12:31 PM (Y+DPZ)

93 Posted by: Jordan

Die in a fucking fire you pathetic racist asshole.

Posted by: toby928© at April 06, 2012 12:31 PM (GTbGH)

94

Whenever I ask my daughter.."What did you just say?" She always says, " I love horses."

I think that was what Zimmerman said, "I love horses", before being beaten.

Posted by: Say What? at April 06, 2012 12:31 PM (b7L99)

95 "This is a great plan! I love this plan! I'm glad to be a part of it!"

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 06, 2012 04:24 PM (8y9MW)



If I'm not mistaken, that's 2 days in a row with Ghostbusters snark from you.  WELL PLAYED, sir.

Posted by: © Sponge at April 06, 2012 12:32 PM (UK9cE)

96 88 I'm glad we finally cleared up what Zimmerman said before he chased Martin down and shot him.

Posted by: Jordan at April 06, 2012 04:30 PM (RSG1I)

Next we're gonna clear up that Trayvon jumped zimmerman and bashed his head against the sidewalk. Aren't technology and witnesses cool?

Posted by: dagny doesn't want to forget Andrew at April 06, 2012 12:32 PM (CMM9V)

97

69 I know why this story is a story and why we are discussing it, but in the context of the world's problems, this is bullshit. And not only is it bullshit, but it is playing into the democratic play book.

 

While I agree that this is a distraction.....drummed up to distract us from much more important things going on.....

 

The Left is already using this story as a way to declare that 'Stand Your Ground' laws are flawed.....and should be eliminated. ....Even the dickhead OReilly has taken up this mantra.

 

In Oklahoma, we call our similar law the "Make My Day Law" which affords us the right to defend ourselves with deadly force, if we believe our life is in danger. .....I would really hate to lose this law....especially in these troubling times. 

Posted by: wheatie at April 06, 2012 12:33 PM (+5U+B)

98 88 I'm glad we finally cleared up what Zimmerman said before he chased Martin down and shot him. Posted by: Jordan at April 06, 2012 04:30 PM

OK Mister CSI troll. What evidence is there that he "chased him down" other than repetition of an assumption from a fellow retard on Kos or Facebook?

Posted by: kbdabear at April 06, 2012 12:33 PM (Y+DPZ)

99

Jordan, you wave your stupidity around like a rainbow flag at a gay pride rally.

Posted by: Warden at April 06, 2012 12:33 PM (Gso/k)

100

Like I said upthread--the military is in an Information War and it's with our own media--since Vietnam.

The media won.

Posted by: tasker at April 06, 2012 04:27 PM (r2PLg)


One of the most egregious falsifications during Vietnam was the story of the little girl burned at Trang Bang by American jets.  Totally fabricated lie by the American media.



http://tinyurl.com/7ofsrd8

Posted by: Doctor Fish at April 06, 2012 12:34 PM (TkGkA)

101

 This is my last entry at “AudioForensicExpert.com”, the blog of Ed Primeau, one of the voice “experts” who told the Orlando Sentinel that it wasnÂ’t Zimmerman screaming on the 911 tapes:

1.      Brad says:

April 2, 2012 at 9:13 pm

Since you were able to clear up the Audio, did he use the word ‘coons’?

Audio Forensic-Expert says:

April 2, 2012 at 11:47 pm

yes he did.

 

Now, ZimmermanÂ’s attorney says the word was “punks”.  This has been confirmed by various experts along with Tom Owen.  Apparently, the symphony that is the human voice is a bit too complex for your trained ear.

 

As itÂ’s doubtful you will ever find another client for voice forensics, perhaps piano tuning would be the best alternative. 

Posted by: jwest at April 06, 2012 12:34 PM (ZDsRL)

102 If I'm not mistaken, that's 2 days in a row with Ghostbusters snark from you. WELL PLAYED, sir.

I don't know if I did GB snark yesterday or not- but it's a fairly safe bet.  My 3 go-to movies for snark quotes: Star Wars, Princess Bride, Ghostbusters.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 06, 2012 12:34 PM (8y9MW)

103 Damned teabagger lynch mobs.


The queers are lyching people again? What for? Bad taste? Are they using those pretty handwoven hemp braided ropes again?


Posted by: dagny doesn't want to forget Andrew at April 06, 2012 12:34 PM (CMM9V)

104

PUNTS!!!

Posted by: Reggie Roby at April 06, 2012 12:35 PM (8ieXv)

105 In Oklahoma, we call our similar law the "Make My Day Law" which affords us the right to defend ourselves with deadly force, if we believe our life is in danger. .....I would really hate to lose this law....especially in these troubling times. Posted by: wheatie at April 06, 2012 04:33 PM (+5U+B) ********************** Bill Clinton weighed in on The Zimmerman Case--and said something like- it's time certain laws were reconsidered.

Posted by: tasker at April 06, 2012 12:35 PM (r2PLg)

106 There are days that I would sell my first born for the Vaderian Tele-Choke power.  Today has been one of those days.  I'm out of here.  Happy Easter to all and may God have mercy on my soul.

Posted by: toby928© at April 06, 2012 12:35 PM (GTbGH)

107 I'm glad we finally cleared up what Zimmerman said before he chased Martin down and shot him.

Posted by: Jordan at April 06, 2012 04:30 PM (RSG1I)



Well, aren't you just a fucking idiot that hasn't read up or researched one fact about this case.

Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.  I wouldn't want your brain to get bruised.

Posted by: © Sponge at April 06, 2012 12:36 PM (UK9cE)

108 88 I'm glad we finally cleared up what Zimmerman said before he chased Martin down and shot him.

Posted by: Jordan at April 06, 2012 04:30 PM (RSG1I)


Nothing says premeditated like convincing your victim to sit on your chest and bash your skull.

Posted by: xbradtc at April 06, 2012 12:36 PM (p3cEJ)

109 I resemble that remark.

Posted by: White Punks on Dope at April 06, 2012 12:36 PM (BVkEs)

110 Zim might have said "mackaroons".

Perhaps "loons"?

"Man the harpoons"?

Maybe he's a gold bug and dropped one of his "fucking dubloons"?

Posted by: Robert at April 06, 2012 12:36 PM (F79HU)

111

Is CNN soon going to be having to issue one of these?

 

http://tinyurl.com/5zsyj5

Posted by: landofskybluewater at April 06, 2012 12:36 PM (JoIcn)

112 One of the most egregious falsifications during Vietnam was the story of the little girl burned at Trang Bang by American jets. Totally fabricated lie by the American media. http://tinyurl.com/7ofsrd8 Posted by: Doctor Fish at April 06, 2012 04:34 PM (TkGkA) ****************** Holy merde-I didn't know that. Off to follow your link.

Posted by: tasker at April 06, 2012 12:37 PM (r2PLg)

113 I'm still waiting for any kind of evidence that Martin even went to that store in the first place

Also waiting for any eyewitnesses who saw GZ on top of TM, every one so far has TM on top



Posted by: kbdabear at April 06, 2012 12:37 PM (Y+DPZ)

114 Posted by: dagny doesn't want to forget Andrew at April 06, 2012 04:34 PM (CMM9V)


It's a new HGTV decorator series.

Posted by: Vandersloot Cupper 353.5 at April 06, 2012 12:37 PM (0It32)

115
And aren't these the idiots who ripped O'Keefe and the girl up and down, left and right, backwards and forwards for months and years?

Well, I guess they just had to protect people from starting a race war!

But now, they actually try to start a race war, and it's too late you assholes to turn it around...

Florida is going to get ugly, you watch...

I have long believed that the media types create shit like this so that they can rush in a look all concerned and hug black babies...like that idiot Anderson Cooper.

These people are some of the worst people in the world...even Olbermann doesn't delve this low.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Bunny at April 06, 2012 12:38 PM (tcSZb)

116 "Hail Satan ... Hail Satan"

Posted by: CNN Audio Expert at April 06, 2012 04:31 PM (Y+DPZ)


Do it!  Do it!  Mow the lawn!

Posted by: Judas Priest at April 06, 2012 12:38 PM (F79HU)

117 o/t - The new Saturday Steyn column is up.  He really tees off on the SCOAMF in this one.

http://tinyurl.com/88vmvyl

Posted by: fozzy at April 06, 2012 12:38 PM (FEzSe)

118 I don't know if I did GB snark yesterday or not- but it's a fairly safe bet. My 3 go-to movies for snark quotes: Star Wars, Princess Bride, Ghostbusters.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 06, 2012 04:34 PM (8y9MW)



I think you threw down the "Yes, it's true. This man, has no dick.....THAT's what I heard!!!" or something thereabouts.

Posted by: © Sponge at April 06, 2012 12:39 PM (UK9cE)

119 Interesting book review over at PJ media. I'm linked,

Posted by: maddogg at April 06, 2012 12:39 PM (OlN4e)

120 He clearly says 'Punk's not dead.'

Posted by: garrett at April 06, 2012 12:39 PM (mWVMT)

121 Jordan, you wave your stupidity around like a rainbow flag at a gay pride rally.

Dude.  Harsh.

The guys at the Gay Pride Parades have some decorum.

In comparison, at least.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 06, 2012 12:39 PM (8y9MW)

122 Dunce!!!

Posted by: Jordon's shinebox at April 06, 2012 12:39 PM (8ieXv)

123 "OK Mister CSI troll. What evidence is there that he "chased him down" other than repetition of an assumption from a fellow retard on Kos or Facebook? " Zimmerman said so in his 9/11 call. He had no reason to lie at that time.

Posted by: Jordan at April 06, 2012 12:39 PM (RSG1I)

124 or something thereabouts.

Ah.  Yes I did.  I remember that now.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 06, 2012 12:39 PM (8y9MW)

125 PUNTS!!!

Posted by: Reggie Roby at April 06, 2012 04:35 PM (8ieXv)



And he's STILL the only punter that I've ever seen that didn't leave the ground when punting the ball.

Posted by: © Sponge at April 06, 2012 12:39 PM (UK9cE)

126 Im glad that the media is playing that tape from baltimore ...

Posted by: Jean at April 06, 2012 12:40 PM (46qC3)

127 OT: Local tv in Virginia Beach reporting no fatalities on the ground in F/A-18 crash but talking head cautions that search of damaged buildings not officially complete yet. Still, good news so far.

Posted by: Retread at April 06, 2012 12:40 PM (joSBv)

128 Posted by: Jordan at April 06, 2012 04:39 PM (RSG1I)

Hey, Jordan- TX Legislature still in session?

Or, put another way: Your shinebox?  Go get it.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 06, 2012 12:40 PM (8y9MW)

129 Posted by: Jordan at April 06, 2012 04:30 PM (RSG1I)

Hi Jordan. Is the Texas Legislature still in session?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 06, 2012 12:40 PM (JEpGb)

130 9/11 call. Heh heh. Ya know what I mean.

Posted by: Jordan at April 06, 2012 12:41 PM (RSG1I)

131 In Oklahoma, we call our similar law the "Make My Day Law" which affords us the right to defend ourselves with deadly force, if we believe our life is in danger. .....I would really hate to lose this law....especially in these troubling times.

Posted by: wheatie at April 06, 2012 04:33 PM (+5U+B)

 

----------------------------------------------

 

I don't think it's going to happen.  Not here,  anyway.  And certainly not now.  The horse is already out of the barn.  Thank God.

Posted by: Soona at April 06, 2012 12:41 PM (si4az)

132 Zimmerman said so in his 9/11 call. He had no reason to lie at that time.

Posted by: Jordan at April 06, 2012 04:39 PM (RSG1I)



He said in the 911 call that he was chasing TM down to shoot him? 

FUCK!!!!!  Why are we wasting our time then!!!  Execute the bastard.  He's OBVIOUSLY guilty.

Sir, we're all dumber for having read your comment.  Please stop.

Posted by: © Sponge at April 06, 2012 12:42 PM (UK9cE)

133 Doctor Fish Thanks fro the link--I have always remembered that photo and immediately recalled it when I read you comment. I was pretty sure it was about the same photo. That photo was famous--very powerful imagery. Emotional--that's one way the media manipulates opinion.

Posted by: tasker at April 06, 2012 12:43 PM (r2PLg)

134 Jordan, you seem to have missed the part where he's stated he's lost Martin, and returning to his truck when Martin confronted him.

Or you're a f*cking douchebag.

Whichever.

GFY.

Posted by: xbradtc at April 06, 2012 12:43 PM (p3cEJ)

135 Pretty soon a Martin/Zimmerman situation will be even less likely in Oklahoma. We're about to pass Open Carry here. Martin would have been less likely to attack if he thought his victim might kill him.

Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at April 06, 2012 12:44 PM (eHwT1)

136 And he's STILL the only punter that I've ever seen that didn't leave the ground when punting the ball While wearing a rolex...

Posted by: MSM at April 06, 2012 12:44 PM (t0Y1+)

137 128 PUNTS!!!

Posted by: Reggie Roby at April 06, 2012 04:35 PM (8ieXv)


And he's STILL the only punter that I've ever seen that didn't leave the ground when punting the ball.

Posted by: © Sponge at April 06, 2012 04:39 PM (UK9cE)

**

He was awesome...I think his death is still a mystery. 

Posted by: dananjcon at April 06, 2012 12:44 PM (8ieXv)

138 Posted by: AllenG

< shakes fist in half-salute, half-futile gesture >

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 06, 2012 12:44 PM (JEpGb)

139  OT: Local tv in Virginia Beach reporting no fatalities on the ground in F/A-18 crash but talking head cautions that search of damaged buildings not officially complete yet. Still, good news so far.

Posted by: Retread at April 06, 2012 04:40 PM (joSBv)

 

----------------------------------------------

 

I hope this  particular apartment complex isn't a low-rent housing project, or the media will start reporting that this is proof that the US military is targeting poor blacks.

Posted by: Soona at April 06, 2012 12:44 PM (si4az)

140
Zimmerman said so in his 9/11 call. He had no reason to lie at that time.

----- 

...."chased down" and "following" are two different things with different connotations.


Posted by: fixerupper at April 06, 2012 12:44 PM (C8hzL)

141 Off sock

Posted by: GW McLintock at April 06, 2012 12:45 PM (t0Y1+)

142 Zimmerman said so in his 9/11 call. He had no reason to lie at that time. Posted by: Jordan at April 06, 2012 04:39 PM

Really? He said he was chasing Martin down and he was gonna bust a cap in him?

All I heard was that he was following him to see where he went and lost sight of him

If you're ever arrested, by all means act as your own lawyer. Prisoners love little limpwristed meat like you

Posted by: kbdabear at April 06, 2012 12:45 PM (Y+DPZ)

143 How in the hell did this go from coons, to cold, to punks?

What a bunch of bullshit.  We need to concentrate on the fact that a gangsta wannabe jumped the wrong person and got capped.

End of story.

End of wannabe.

Posted by: Me at April 06, 2012 12:46 PM (y0VOX)

144 I hope this particular apartment complex isn't a low-rent housing project, or the media will start reporting that this is proof that the US military is targeting poor blacks.

Posted by: Soona at April 06, 2012 04:44 PM (si4az)

**

Definately a Halliburton/Cheny/Bush Hitler ethnic cleansing plot.

Posted by: dananjcon at April 06, 2012 12:47 PM (8ieXv)

145
...."chased down" and "following" are two different things with different connotations.


Posted by: fixerupper at April 06, 2012 04:44 PM (C8hzL)



No!!!  You're wrong!  Jordan knows the FACTS so we should all just stop talking about it and protest for Zimmerman's execution!!!  He's a racist, premeditated MURDERER!!!!

Posted by: © Sponge at April 06, 2012 12:47 PM (UK9cE)

146

Certainly sounded like "punks" the first time I heard it, but I was willing to concede that our brains might just impose a word we're predisposed to hearing. 

 

Fits with the assumption that Zimmerman wasn't just following Martin so he could give him a flower, but if anyone is looking for any meaning beyond that, they're not being responsible. 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 06, 2012 12:47 PM (TOk1P)

147

134.....I don't think it's going to happen. Not here, anyway. And certainly not now. The horse is already out of the barn. Thank God.

 

Wasn't our 'make my day law' passed back in the 80's, Soona? ....Seems like we were one of the first states to do it.

 

There's no way to know how many countless lives have been saved by having this law in place. ....They don't keep statistics on such things. Especially when pulling out a firearm makes the assailant back down and run, and no one even is hurt.

Posted by: wheatie at April 06, 2012 12:48 PM (+5U+B)

148 The headline I want to see is Zimmermann lawyer brings suit against CNN, Jessie Jackson, and yada yada yada

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 06, 2012 12:49 PM (eCnLg)

149 I heard "boy."

Posted by: Maureen Dowd at April 06, 2012 12:51 PM (F26eZ)

150 I understand more and more why we can't let these false narratives stand unchallenged.

My neighbor sent me the article by Shelby Steels  titled "The exploitation of Trayvon Martin"

The headline reads
"
The absurdity of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton is that they want to make a movement out of an anomaly. Black teenagers today are afraid of other black teenagers, not whites."
At first, it sounded OK. And than I got to the part that read

"

Two tragedies are apparent in the Trayvon Martin case. The first is obvious: A teenager—unarmed and committing no crime—was shot dead. Dressed in a "hoodie," a costume of menace, he crossed paths with a man on the hunt for precisely such clichés of menace. Added to this—and here is the rub—was the fact of his dark skin.

Maybe it was more the hood than the dark skin, but who could argue that the skin did not enhance the menace of the hood at night and in the eyes of someone watching for crime. (Fifty-five percent of all federal prisoners are black though we are only 12% of the population.) Would Trayvon be alive today had he been walking home—Skittles and ice tea in hand—wearing a polo shirt with an alligator logo? Possibly. And does this make the ugly point that dark skin late at night needs to have its menace softened by some show of Waspy Americana? Possibly."


I honestly couldn't get this neighbor to understand that half of what was in that last part was simple unproven conjecture on the Authors part.

Her response was that I was just looking for little details to derail the discussion.  I told her that I didn't consider the statement that Zimmerman was on the hunt for a black kid wearing a Hoodie to take down, and found it in Saint Trayvon was a small and trivial detail.


Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 06, 2012 12:51 PM (PVB6D)

151 If you're ever arrested, by all means act as your own lawyer. Prisoners love little limpwristed meat like you

Posted by: kbdabear at April 06, 2012 04:45 PM

Fresh Fish! Fresh Fish! Fresh Fish!

Posted by: Jordan's new neighbors on Block 9 at April 06, 2012 12:51 PM (Y+DPZ)

152

@67 Posted by: CheChe at April 06, 2012 04:22 PM (phlKA)   

 

You think that look was bad?  Wait until after she's been anally raped and had her face curb-stomped at her first OWS rally.  THAT is going to be a bad look my friend. 

Posted by: JQ Public at April 06, 2012 12:52 PM (NBj0d)

153 LOS ANGELES — Current TV has fired back at Keith Olbermann by countersuing its former host and asking a judge to rule he is not entitled to any more money from the network. The lawsuit was filed Friday in Los Angeles, a day after Olbermann sued his former employer seeking more than $50 million in damages. The complaint rejects Olbermann's claims that the network engaged in shoddy production and states it paid the "Countdown" host the most he received in his career. The filing accuses Olbermann of "an utter disregard" for his contract. The suit claims OIbermann's claims have damaged Current TV and it will lose money as a result of having to firing him. The network is seeking unspecified damages. A phone message for Olbermann's attorney Patricia Glaser was not immediately returned. This is one time I am rooting for the lawyers to run the bill up

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 06, 2012 12:52 PM (eCnLg)

154 "He said in the 911 call that he was chasing TM down to shoot him?" I don't think anyone, including Zimmerman, has denied that he was following Martin or that he shot Martin. We'll probably never know what exactly happened between.

Posted by: Jordan at April 06, 2012 12:53 PM (RSG1I)

155 The guys at the Gay Pride Parades have some decorum.

In comparison, at least.
Posted by: AllenG

NSFW link to pajamas media

http://tinyurl.com/7nwwwn5

Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 06, 2012 12:54 PM (RfvTE)

156 Oklahoma. We're about to pass Open Carry here.

Can you PLEASE invade and annex Colorado already?

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 06, 2012 12:54 PM (QTHTd)

157 Posted by: Jordan at April 06, 2012 04:53 PM (RSG1I)

Do you aspire to merely stupid?
Do you look yearn to reach the mighty goal of a 60 IQ?
Do you get outsmarted by goldfish?

Or are you really just a f*cking troll?

Because those are really the only two options.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 06, 2012 12:54 PM (8y9MW)

158

"We'll probably never know what exactly happened between. "

 

You certainly won't, you inbred rube.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at April 06, 2012 12:55 PM (kaOJx)

159 Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 06, 2012 04:54 PM (RfvTE)

You don't really think I'm going to click on that, do you?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 06, 2012 12:55 PM (8y9MW)

160

138 Pretty soon a Martin/Zimmerman situation will be even less likely in Oklahoma. We're about to pass Open Carry here. Martin would have been less likely to attack if he thought his victim might kill him.

 

Open Carry will be great. ....Although, I predict that it will become sort of a fashion statement. Heh.

 

It's pretty nice the way it is already. ....I've been told by a LEO that, simply having a firearm in my truck, which is legal to 'transport', makes it legal to use it away from home if my life is in danger.

Posted by: wheatie at April 06, 2012 12:56 PM (+5U+B)

161 "
I don't think anyone, including Zimmerman, has denied that he was following Martin or that he shot Martin. We'll probably never know what exactly happened between.

Posted by: Jordan at April 06, 2012 04:53 PM (RSG1I) "

 

Why is it when you loser douches get caught with your tiny dicks in your hand, you immediately start trying to convince people that 'we'll probably never know what exactly happened' or whether your tiny dick was really in your hand or not.  Fuck.  How fucking retarded are you people Jordan?  Someone needs to hide the paste in your house.

Posted by: JQ Public at April 06, 2012 12:57 PM (NBj0d)

162 I don't think anyone, including Zimmerman, has denied that he was following Martin or that he shot Martin. We'll probably never know what exactly happened between. Posted by: Jordan at April 06, 2012 04:53 PM

You didn't say following, you said chased.

And you talked like you had it all figured out

Actually, with your backpedalling and altering what you said in the first place, you might just find employment when Jay Carney quits to go write a book

Posted by: kbdabear at April 06, 2012 12:58 PM (Y+DPZ)

163

Trayvon Martin...never heard of him.

**

Zimmerman? Oh that guys a racist!!11!!1

Posted by: Charles Gibson at April 06, 2012 12:58 PM (8ieXv)

164 So did Zimmerman shoot the attacker in the head or what? Face? Chest? How was the worthless gangsta offed?

Posted by: jimmahs phone at April 06, 2012 12:58 PM (N9a2w)

165 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at April 06, 2012 12:59 PM (7W3wI)

166 150: Stand Your Ground is fairly new. We don't have Castle Doctrine, but SYG is actually better IMO. The Open Carry law as it's currently written will only cover people licensed to conceal carry. It protects them from being charged if they print or accidentally expose their weapons.

Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at April 06, 2012 12:59 PM (eHwT1)

167

Zimmerman said so in his 9/11 call. He had no reason to lie at that time.

Posted by: Jordan at April 06, 2012 04:39 PM (RSG1I)

Why do Democrats like you and Zimmerman hate black people so much?

Posted by: Warden at April 06, 2012 12:59 PM (Gso/k)

168 @Allen
Its pajamas media (one of us) covering a gay "Easter service" last year in san francisco in a public park.  It is pretty shocking. all 6 pages of it.

Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 06, 2012 01:01 PM (RfvTE)

169 So did Zimmerman shoot the attacker 

Posted by: jimmahs phone at April 06, 2012 04:58 PM (N9a2w)

i heard He shot the attacker on Gramma's porch, right over there---> P

Posted by: willow at April 06, 2012 01:01 PM (TomZ9)

170 wheatie: I looked it up. SYG was passed in 2006.

Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at April 06, 2012 01:02 PM (eHwT1)

171 Also heard Zimmerman was white, wait no white hispanic, gun clinger republican, wait no Dem   hispanic touch of white, that hates cops or doesn't but maybe Hates blacks or doesn't
one thing is for certain, he is in trouble! and a racist or not.

Posted by: willow at April 06, 2012 01:03 PM (TomZ9)

172 Has it ever been reported exactly where Trayvon supposedly went to get his "skittles and ice tea"?

Posted by: Tami at April 06, 2012 01:03 PM (X6akg)

173 Tami, i don't believe that video is out yet. i would think the store would have had one .

Posted by: willow at April 06, 2012 01:06 PM (TomZ9)

174 Tami: Early on I saw some kind of video claiming he bought them at the local 7/11 or similar convenience store.

Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at April 06, 2012 01:06 PM (eHwT1)

175 I'm just curious what percentage of people who think zimmerman is guilty as hell also believe that OJ is innocent...Isn't there a picture of ronald goldman in a grey hoodie? I wonder what soledad obriens or al sharptons reaction would be if you asked each of them wether OJ was guilty. They would probably say well he was found innocent in a court of law....exactly.....and what was the jury verdict for zimmerman..... oh wait..... That's different....

Posted by: CrookedRecords at April 06, 2012 01:06 PM (eAUWJ)

176

173 wheatie: I looked it up. SYG was passed in 2006.

 

Right. ....But the 'make my day law' has been around longer. That's the one where you can shoot someone that comes on your property and is threatening you in some way. ....I think it was passed back in '88 or '89.

Posted by: wheatie at April 06, 2012 01:10 PM (+5U+B)

177 Every media toad and pinhead blogger is posting minute-by-minute accounts of the confrontation as if they were eyewitnesses, but none of them know any more than I do. Again, I don't think we'll ever know what happened between the time Zimmerman started chasing Martin and the shooting. These competing political narratives are too speculative for me to believe.

Posted by: Jordan at April 06, 2012 01:12 PM (RSG1I)

178 Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at April 06, 2012 05:06 PM (eHwT1)




This is a google map of the address where the incident took place.  I cannot find a store nearby where he would have gone.  You can zoom in and see the names of businesses in the area.  The closest thing I can find is a Sam's Club almost a mile away.




http://tinyurl.com/7ldugkf

Posted by: Tami at April 06, 2012 01:14 PM (X6akg)

179 Jordan: your stupidity is hard to ignore. You went from "chasing" to "following" and now back to "chasing" again. If you're going to be a lying douchebag, at least man up and stick to the lie.

Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at April 06, 2012 01:16 PM (eHwT1)

180 A hard rain's a-gonna fall.

Posted by: Cast Iron at April 06, 2012 01:19 PM (EL+OC)

181 These competing political narratives are too speculative for me to believe.

Posted by: Jordan at April 06, 2012 05:12 PM (RSG1I)

 

 

Yet not so hard that you won't show up hear trying to tell others what to believe, and that GZ 'chased' Martin down?  As trolls go, you're just about the weeniest...

Posted by: JQ Public at April 06, 2012 01:22 PM (NBj0d)

182

Tami.....I remember reading more than once, that the market where Trayvon was thought to have gone...was about .7 miles away.

 

But I can't swear that it is true....it's just what has been written.

Posted by: wheatie at April 06, 2012 01:23 PM (+5U+B)

183 Why did Zimmerman have to get out of his car?  Didn't he have a high-powered digital camera that would allow him to get live video of Martin and even zoom in on him?  He didn't?  If he had, maybe he wouldn't have had to do what "we don't need you to do [that]". 

Posted by: SFGoth at April 06, 2012 01:25 PM (dZ756)

184 That's a problem, CNN. For Eason Jordan's network? Not really.

Posted by: Entropy at April 06, 2012 01:28 PM (Ci0JG)

185 Or, wait, was it Vernon...

Posted by: Entropy at April 06, 2012 01:28 PM (Ci0JG)

186 Nope, it's Eason.

Posted by: Entropy at April 06, 2012 01:29 PM (Ci0JG)

187 47 Best case scenario a lynch mob tries to exact revenge and he takes them out in self defense.

Posted by: jimmahs phone at April 06, 2012 04:14 PM (N9a2w)


Say hello to my lil' friend! style

Posted by: Tony Montana at April 06, 2012 01:31 PM (FIDMq)

188 "Yet not so hard that you won't show up hear trying to tell others what to believe, and that GZ 'chased' Martin down? As trolls go, you're just aboutthe weeniest..." Following to me sounds like walking. Of course, you can follow someone who is running away, but 'chase' or 'pursue' would be better diction because they're more descriptive. Both of those words imply some level of haste or urgency that 'follow' lacks. Still, it's only semantics: Travyon was running. Zimmerman was following. At some point they met and Zimmerman shot him. That's about all we know.

Posted by: Jordan at April 06, 2012 01:33 PM (RSG1I)

189 Why did Zimmerman have to get out of his car? Didn't he have a high-powered digital camera that would allow him to get live video of Martin and even zoom in on him? He didn't? If he had, maybe he wouldn't have had to do what "we don't need you to do [that]".

Martin went behind the houses. Unless you've got a camera that can see through houses, you'd have to go on foot to keep him in sight.

Posted by: xbradtc at April 06, 2012 01:39 PM (p3cEJ)

190 Also, please allow me to revise and extent my comment at 192:

Douchebag.

Posted by: xbradtc at April 06, 2012 01:41 PM (p3cEJ)

191 The walk back continues. 

Pretty soon Nancy Grace will admit that no one got raped in the Duke case.

Nah, will never happen.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pusedo intellectual at April 06, 2012 01:51 PM (Cydud)

192 SFGoth: "...He didn't? If he had, maybe he wouldn't have had to do what 'we don't need you to do [that]'."

Why I didn't even think of that. Of the infinite what-ifs possible, that one never registered. I've done all I can. I'm spent.

Posted by: Captain Hindsight at April 06, 2012 02:02 PM (eHIJJ)

193 Somebody quoted this ex Chief Bill Lee interview a couple of days ago:

"We can't discount (Zimmerman's) story, based on — not evidence we put anywhere, not testimony we put in anybody's mouth — but testimony of witnesses who were there, that called, and the physical evidence that's there. You can't refute it," Lee said in the early interview. "The conclusions that are drawn from the basic information is that George Zimmerman shoots a 17-year-old kid with a bag of Skittles and an Arizona iced tea can. And you know, those are facts: George Zimmerman did shoot Trayvon Martin, and Trayvon Martin did have a bag of Skittles and an Arizona iced tea.

"The fact that he had a bag of Skittles and an Arizona iced tea does not have anything to do with the facts of why George Zimmerman thought he needed to use deadly force."

http://goo.gl/ncVA2



Posted by: mike at April 06, 2012 02:08 PM (R+YK5)

194 Why is there no Facebook like button on each story, or some way to share the stories on here with friends on Facebook? Someone, please, tell me.

Posted by: Travis at April 06, 2012 02:35 PM (9WkMB)

195

Just copy the link and paste it into your facebook status. It'll create a link to the story. It's also a good way to recruit morons to the blog. :0)

 

We can't even get the software that is here to work (I'm looking at you insert link icon) and you want a like button?

Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at April 06, 2012 06:05 PM (eHwT1)

196 The MSM still can't "reach a consensus" on whether George Bush's Texas AF national Guard base had Microsoft Word 2004-style proportinal font printer capability in 1973.

Posted by: Anony at April 06, 2012 06:34 PM (vGlQg)

197 @181

If that is true, that needs to go viral.  Locals need to confirm.

Posted by: Anony at April 06, 2012 06:39 PM (vGlQg)

198 After looking at the map is doesn't seem like every building is marked. There's one large building that is marked as a nail/spa place. No way the entire building is just nails and spa. I also wonder about how old the picture is. I see a 2012 date on teh satelite photo, but is that when the actual picture was taken? The one for my house shows a car parked out front that I sold at least 3 years ago.

Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at April 06, 2012 08:56 PM (eHwT1)

199 I dunno.  To me it still sounds like he's saying "T. Coddington [undecipherable]vorhees"

Posted by: Kevin at April 07, 2012 03:09 AM (3o64G)

200 You expected different from Craven News Network?  You forgot  that they kissed Saddam's ring for access?

They said they're reformed, and it'll never happen again.  So this time they punched the other side of your face.  They really do love you, and it'll never happen again.

Posted by: MarkD at April 07, 2012 04:59 AM (iYBP2)

201

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