June 27, 2012
— DrewM This is just a horrible, horrible situation.
A fast-moving wildfire near Colorado Springs forced as many as 32,000 residents to be evacuated on Tuesday, as the blaze—fueled by 65 mph winds—jumped a perimeter set by firefighters trying desperately to contain it.The Waldo Canyon fire—which was first spotted Saturday near Pikes Peak—doubled in size overnight to more than 24 square miles, according to the Associated Press.
The blaze has destroyed an unknown number of homes, caused roads to be closed and shut down part of the U.S. Air Force Academy. About 2,100 residents of the academy's campus were told to evacuate on Tuesday.
Thankfully no one has been injured or killed so far. We can only pray it reamins that way. Still, tens of thousands of people, including Michelle Malkin (who has a roundup of the situation and some amazing photos), have been evacuated and many won't have homes to return to.
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Posted by: beerologist at June 27, 2012 07:13 AM (CdhVC)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 27, 2012 07:14 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 27, 2012 07:14 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Y-not at June 27, 2012 07:15 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Y-not at June 27, 2012 07:16 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: nickless at June 27, 2012 07:16 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Vic at June 27, 2012 11:13 AM (YdQQY)
but ... but ... but ...
Not removing the pine beetle kill is the Mother Gaia way!!
There's a fire on the backside of the ridge behind NCAR (in Boulder).
That started yesterday due to lightning from the cloud that passed over.
If the winds shift a bit, they'll be doing some up close and personal Atmospheric Research. I live about 7 miles east, and have my front door closed because of the smoke.
Posted by: jwb7605 at June 27, 2012 07:17 AM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: nickless at June 27, 2012 07:18 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 27, 2012 07:18 AM (uFtOt)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at June 27, 2012 07:18 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: The People of Brattleboro, Vermont at June 27, 2012 07:19 AM (48wze)
Posted by: Ben at June 27, 2012 11:18 AM (C2Y4l)
***
Yes, Colorado College is in Colorado Springs.
Posted by: Nash Rambler at June 27, 2012 07:20 AM (vXucy)
Posted by: Bill R. at June 27, 2012 07:21 AM (QnRSM)
Posted by: DanB at June 27, 2012 07:22 AM (cUuaV)
Posted by: Watcher at June 27, 2012 07:22 AM (aXbFv)
Posted by: ColoradoCristine at June 27, 2012 07:23 AM (aFJOm)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at work, team dagny at June 27, 2012 07:23 AM (JV2v8)
Posted by: Vic at June 27, 2012 11:13 AM (YdQQY)
EXACTLY! I've been saying this over and over on Twitter. The residents of CO *knew* this was going to happen for decades, but we weren't allowed to do anything about it because so much of the land is federal or state.
Posted by: Polliwogette, Teahada hobbit at June 27, 2012 07:23 AM (Qe7jo)
Posted by: Chuck Simmins at June 27, 2012 07:24 AM (um9PN)
I am so sad for all those who have lost their homes, not just in the Waldo Canyon Fire but in the High Point Fire as well. I am especially sad that Flying W Ranch burned to the ground.
This is just the end of June. If this type of wildfire season keeps up and intensifies throughout the Western US there won't be enough firefighting resources (people and equipment) to handle it. And in some cases, like Waldo Canyon, there isn't an option to let it burn since the fires are next to heavily populated areas.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 27, 2012 07:25 AM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Captain FAPtastical at June 27, 2012 07:25 AM (/pd0C)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 27, 2012 07:25 AM (1oeZb)
Posted by: Y-not at June 27, 2012 07:26 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: navybrat at June 27, 2012 07:27 AM (zcMGN)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 27, 2012 11:25 AM (1oeZb)
Yea, but Houston got to pay for it and is still paying
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at June 27, 2012 07:27 AM (mFxQX)
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I live on the Western Slope of Colorado and I get up early so I can go to the gym before work. I hit the road at 5:00 yesterday and according to my 4Runner's thermometer, it was already 80 degrees.
Posted by: WalrusRex at June 27, 2012 07:27 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: DanB at June 27, 2012 11:22 AM (cUuaV)
My late husband spent his elementary years in CO Springs and considered it his hometown. Reports on Twitter yesterday said the the Flying W Ranch had burned completely which is personally sad, as well as a loss of a real landmark, because going there was one of John's favorite childhood memories.
Posted by: Polliwogette, Teahada hobbit at June 27, 2012 07:27 AM (Qe7jo)
Lightning can come without rain, though. Does, from time to time, in the mountains. So you may as well ask for the rain, too.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 27, 2012 07:27 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Chuck Simmins at June 27, 2012 11:24 AM (um9PN)
"Thunderstorms expected this afternoon with strong winds in varying directions."
That's been the problem (along with 105 degree temperatures) for a couple weeks, now.
Posted by: jwb7605 at June 27, 2012 07:28 AM (Qxe/p)
Yeah, the thunderstorms aren't really helping the situation, as they are creating lightning strikes that are starting smaller fires all over. Thankfully, those are being contained fairly quickly. But one in Estes Park burned I think it was 10 structures.
They need one of our Northwest torrential downpours. My sister has been asking me to send them one, but instead the clouds and rain seem to be stuck here, over my house.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 27, 2012 07:28 AM (RZ8pf)
An apt comparison. The Magic 8-ball says, "Yes, most definitely"
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 27, 2012 07:29 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at June 27, 2012 07:30 AM (9TTOe)
I am sure Barry won't call out the National Guard to save the Air Force Academy.
Why, let those war mongers burn.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at June 27, 2012 07:30 AM (KZI7g)
Posted by: jewells45 at June 27, 2012 07:30 AM (UljOc)
Yes, the pets are especially sad. Michelle Malkin posted that while they were able to get back in to get her kids parakeets, one died of smoke inhalation.
I haven't read about whether any livestock was lost in the High Point Fire, but I assume some was.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 27, 2012 07:31 AM (RZ8pf)
NPRÂ’s Horsley: By the time the President finished speaking, the rain had stopped, and a little sunshine was peeking through the clouds. That gave David OÂ’Donnell of Portsmouth one more reason to be impressed with Mr. Obama.
Rally Participant OÂ’Donnell: See what his voice does? It clears up the weather, too. It clears up the economy, creates jobs, helps education, and straightens out the weather.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/7ezzupeI've got sunshine on a cloudy day.
When it's cold outside I've got the month of May.
I guess you'd say
What can make me feel this way?
My guy (my guy, my guy)
Talkin' 'bout my guy (my guy).
Posted by: WalrusRex at June 27, 2012 07:31 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Ben at June 27, 2012 07:31 AM (C2Y4l)
Posted by: A Sorkin at June 27, 2012 07:32 AM (KXm42)
(Actually, the real cause is: This shit happens in a forest, it's kinda what nature wants. As I recall, the lodgepole pine requires temperatures above 200 to eject the seeds from the cone. It is possible that man made it worse by preventing the regular forest fires that used to thin the undergrowth and dead trees so there was less fuel to drive a fire like this.)
Posted by: RoyalOil at June 27, 2012 07:32 AM (kSaUf)
Jus' sayin'
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 27, 2012 11:16 AM
Why? Do you "jus' say" every stupid thing that flashes through your bird brain? I think I can do without the arch political witticisms at a time like thi, if you don't mind.
Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at June 27, 2012 07:32 AM (KOHFD)
I'm down in Pueblo - watching the briefing this morning, they said at one point the wind got so bad yesterday a spark jumped a lake shore that was a containment line and started a spot fire on the other side of the lake....and the lake is a more than a half-mile wide. Dry thunderstorm possibility today, too.
Posted by: ATaLien at June 27, 2012 07:33 AM (2p0vz)
Evacuate when officials tell you to go. Nothing is worth your life or the life of a firefighter trying to save your stubborn ass.
Posted by: mpfs at June 27, 2012 07:33 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: taylork at June 27, 2012 07:33 AM (ppNDn)
Posted by: Y-not at June 27, 2012 07:33 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at June 27, 2012 07:34 AM (9TTOe)
has been posting laughing comments about the people who build their homes in the dry regions for a couple of weeks, about how the spirits of the indians were laughing at them, has now been evacuated because their own home is threatened.
She has now deleted all her mocking posts.
Karma, she's a bitch.Posted by: toby928© at June 27, 2012 07:34 AM (QupBk)
"They are caused by stupid and incompetent forest management due to stupid and incompetent eco-green shit. "
I 100% believe this to be the case. But I also do not have any facts to back up this assertion. It's kind a like how the greenies believe in AGW like that. I trust there's actual, you know, truth...behind this.
Seriously. Can anyone enlighten me on the specifics of what the bureaucrats and hippies are doing to set the stage for these horrible fires?
Posted by: Jaws at June 27, 2012 07:34 AM (4I3Uo)
"Everything is Smokin"
~Bob Dylan
Posted by: Joe Mama at June 27, 2012 07:34 AM (TLHj1)
It's like his tongue was right up my ass!
Posted by: David O’Donnell's innermost feelings at June 27, 2012 07:35 AM (Ky1+e)
Dry thunderstorm possibility today, too.
Posted by: ATaLien at June 27, 2012 11:33 AM (2p0vz)
That's what started the one behind NCAR (and another one in North Boulder that got put out) yesterday. Wyoming-style 10 foot rain (drops were 10 feet apart).
Posted by: jwb7605 at June 27, 2012 07:35 AM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at work, team dagny at June 27, 2012 07:35 AM (JV2v8)
Posted by: Y-not at June 27, 2012 07:36 AM (5H6zj)
Karma, she's a bitch.
Posted by: toby928© at June 27, 2012 11:34 AM (QupBk)
Hey, leave my ass alone.
Posted by: Katrina Karma at June 27, 2012 07:37 AM (KZI7g)
Posted by: Y-not at June 27, 2012 11:36 AM (5H6zj)
Wrong Flagstaff (I hope -- we don't need two!).
Refers to Flagstaff Mountain, west of Boulder, Colorado.
Posted by: jwb7605 at June 27, 2012 07:38 AM (Qxe/p)
I think we call those "heat storms" here in Texas. That is the last thing that Colorado needs.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 27, 2012 07:38 AM (8y9MW)
"They are caused by stupid and incompetent forest management due to stupid and incompetent eco-green shit. "
I 100% believe this to be the case. But I also do not have any facts to back up this assertion. It's kind a like how the greenies believe in AGW like that. I trust there's actual, you know, truth...behind this.
Seriously. Can anyone enlighten me on the specifics of what the bureaucrats and hippies are doing to set the stage for these horrible fires?
Posted by: Jaws at June 27, 2012 11:34 AM (4I3Uo)
Previous Governor, Bill Ritter would not allow timber companies to go in and remove beetle-killed trees. Enviro-weenies wanted to preserve the "natural" forest. Many areas have 50 - 75% standing dead trees. It's been a disaster waiting to happen for the last five years.
Thanks, Bill!
Posted by: Joe Mama at June 27, 2012 07:38 AM (TLHj1)
Thank you Interior Department for incredibly short sighted forest management.
Oh and a big FU to the Sierra Club too.
Posted by: mpfs at June 27, 2012 07:39 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Jaws at June 27, 2012 11:34 AM (4I3Uo)
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They prevent selective harvesting, underbrush clearing, etc. It slowly makes a tinderbox.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 27, 2012 07:40 AM (1oeZb)
Posted by: Y-not at June 27, 2012 11:36 AM (5H6zj)
Sorry, should have specified is is Flagstaff Mountain (aka The Flatirons.), west of Boulder.
Posted by: Joe Mama at June 27, 2012 07:40 AM (TLHj1)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 27, 2012 11:38 AM (8y9MW)
We seem to be "too high" for ball lightning, though.
That would pretty much cap things off.
Posted by: jwb7605 at June 27, 2012 07:40 AM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: Clemenza at June 27, 2012 07:41 AM (qA9lG)
Posted by: navybrat at June 27, 2012 07:41 AM (zcMGN)
I'll consider it a blessing, givin the painful alternative.
Prayers for those in the burning west.
Posted by: Derak at June 27, 2012 07:41 AM (VEhDR)
Posted by: eman at June 27, 2012 11:38 AM (ejmiE)
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Unless there's a cut up chicken over it.
Posted by: Tami at June 27, 2012 07:42 AM (X6akg)
After the drought and fires we had last year, it's kinda nice it's not happening (yet) this year. 'Course that could be because everything that could burn already has.
Posted by: RoyalOil at June 27, 2012 07:42 AM (kSaUf)
And fires are natural so you get this mess. Forests need to be managed. What makes them different from managing a floodplain in, say... New Orleans?
Posted by: Dang at June 27, 2012 07:42 AM (Ky1+e)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at June 27, 2012 11:30 AM (9TTOe)
You don't understand. Yes, fire is nature's cleaner is.it's.allowed. to do it's job. Government policy has prevented that for *decades* guaranteeing an eventual wildfire situation like this. There certainly *are* people to blame in this case, although we'll probably never know who they were since they're just faceless bureaucrats making decisions they won't have to live with.
Posted by: Polliwogette, Teahada hobbit at June 27, 2012 07:42 AM (Qe7jo)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at work, team dagny at June 27, 2012 07:44 AM (JV2v8)
Posted by: eman at June 27, 2012 07:44 AM (ejmiE)
hippies are doing to set the stage for these horrible fires?
A variety of studies have pointed that direction. Of course, since we can't know alternative history, we can't know how accurate they are, but the idea goes like this: In "nature" occasional forest fires would clear out dead trees and underbrush periodically. Because they would sweep through somewhat regularly, they normally wouldn't kill too many of the living trees. When humans (mostly because of enviro-weenies) stop every single fire that starts, and then when those same humans (again: because of enviro-weenies) further don't allow the forest to be cleared in other ways, they're essentially turning the entire forest into a tinderbox.
This is the theory behind controlled burns which do, it seems, lessen the number and severity of wildfires in the regions that use them.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 27, 2012 07:45 AM (8y9MW)
@68
Thanks for the info. I'm sure there are a thousand other idiotic decisions like that all wadded up into this flaming ball of fail as well.
Posted by: Jaws at June 27, 2012 07:46 AM (4I3Uo)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 27, 2012 07:46 AM (1oeZb)
Nancy Pelosi just called and said the only reason why these fires are happening is voter suppression by Republicans.
Posted by: soothsayer at June 27, 2012 07:46 AM (9Q7Nu)
Posted by: J. Holdren at June 27, 2012 07:46 AM (48wze)
Posted by: RoyalOil at June 27, 2012 07:47 AM (kSaUf)
Posted by: San Antonio Rose at June 27, 2012 07:47 AM (noqys)
Posted by: mpfs at June 27, 2012 07:47 AM (iYbLN)
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That's what Governor Hickenlooper says. I don't know if he knows what he's talking about or not.
Posted by: WalrusRex at June 27, 2012 07:47 AM (Hx5uv)
Less than 24 hours away from the Court's opinion.
What are the Kos cocksuckers thinking right now? I'll tell you in a minute.
brb...
Posted by: soothsayer at June 27, 2012 07:47 AM (9Q7Nu)
I believe it's a known fact that Indians used to start fires for that very reason.
Posted by: A Sorkin at June 27, 2012 07:48 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at June 27, 2012 07:49 AM (136wp)
Posted by: Jaws at June 27, 2012 11:34 AM (4I3Uo)
Unfortunately I don't have any links. But as a 30 year resident of CO I can say quite definitely that the residents knew this was going to be a problem, but were prevented by orgs like the Sierra Club and by the government as well (because so much land is state or federal) from doing anything about it for decades. Now the idjit #emoprogs who don't even live there are blaming *Romney!* for the fires because the O campaign says he wants to fire firefighters.
Posted by: Polliwogette, Teahada hobbit at June 27, 2012 07:49 AM (Qe7jo)
A TV special was actually ran on this. They described all the stupid policies that encourage these type of conflagrations.
If I was the dictator of one of these Western States like CO I would do a reverse Obama. He likes to "nationalize" stuff. I would "Staterize" (new word) all the federal forest land. I would simply tell him that all federal forest land in CO was not and forever State land.
I would sell off selected plots for development. I would then lease remaining land to large forestry companies who know how to maintain land.
And finally, I would tell all the green commie watermelons to piss up a rope.
Posted by: Vic at June 27, 2012 07:49 AM (YdQQY)
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Posted by: soothsayer at June 27, 2012 07:49 AM (9Q7Nu)
Any of the degenerate thugs who planned on SWATting her will be in for a surprise
Posted by: kbdabear at June 27, 2012 07:49 AM (Y+DPZ)
http://tinyurl.com/7abvcnx
Basically, Fast & Furious happened because of the NRA and weak gun laws - that the DoJ tried really really hard, but just couldn't get anyone to prosecute!
As CNN/Fortune proclaims:
"No federal statute outlaws firearms trafficking, so agents must build cases using a patchwork of often toothless laws."
I feel dirty having read the article, as it's dripping in condescension and cow manure.
They give us a hero: "Voth, 39, was a good choice for a Sisyphean task. Strapping and sandy-haired, the former Marine is cool-headed and punctilious to a fault."
He is, of course, the whistleblower's boss.
We're treated to passages like these:
"Indeed, a six-month Fortune investigation reveals that the public case alleging that Voth and his colleagues walked guns is replete with distortions, errors, partial truths, and even some outright lies."
"How Fast and Furious reached the headlines is a strange and unsettling saga, one that reveals a lot about politics and media today."
"Irony abounds when it comes to the Fast and Furious scandal. But the ultimate irony is this: Republicans who support the National Rifle Association and its attempts to weaken gun laws are lambasting ATF agents for not seizing enough weapons—ones that, in this case, prosecutors deemed to be legal."
Sorry for the pollution, but this article is so...evil. It needs to be taken on.
Posted by: Crispian at June 27, 2012 07:50 AM (uBMtY)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 27, 2012 11:38 AM (8y9MW)
They're common in CO, but usually in July and August.
Posted by: Polliwogette, Teahada hobbit at June 27, 2012 07:50 AM (Qe7jo)
A private owner cares for his property like a mother cares for her children.
A government cares for its property like a child cares for his ant farm.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 27, 2012 07:51 AM (J5tI6)
Posted by: Jaws at June 27, 2012 11:34 AM (4I3Uo)
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For years the forrest fire policy was "put it out". Throw on top of that SEVERE restrictions in logging, brush clearing on public and private land. Tons of fuel have accumulated in our forrests and when they DO catch fire, they burn hotter and longer. Older growth trees, which would often survive a smaller natural fire, are now killed and incinerated in today's super fueled fires.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 27, 2012 07:52 AM (C8hzL)
Posted by: mpfs at June 27, 2012 07:52 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: CNN at June 27, 2012 07:53 AM (QupBk)
Just drive west on I-70 and take a look out the window and all you see are dead trees standing (beetle kill). And it runs right up to the towns in the mountains.
As a side note, you know what kills off pine beetle's?
Fire.
Posted by: BallofHate at June 27, 2012 07:53 AM (kEOQs)
Posted by: Jaws at June 27, 2012 07:54 AM (4I3Uo)
Posted by: Y-not at June 27, 2012 07:54 AM (5H6zj)
Instead of rebuilding, consider sending your insurance money to the Obama campaign
Posted by: Obama 2012 at June 27, 2012 07:55 AM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at June 27, 2012 07:55 AM (osAZb)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 27, 2012 07:56 AM (nytjj)
That's alright, we didn't need his help anyway. We've managed to pay for it ourselves (well, we're in the process).
Actually, between that and the Fed cutting off funding for our women's programs because we won't let State dollars go to Planned Parenthood anymore, I think Texas is beginning to make the case that we could wean ourselves off the Federal subsidy teet.
I would laugh and laugh if we managed to do that.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 27, 2012 07:56 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: mpfs at June 27, 2012 07:57 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Josh at June 27, 2012 07:58 AM (2Agv+)
Posted by: mpfs at June 27, 2012 11:52 AM
Just pray that next time an illegal gets lost in a canyon, he uses a cell phone instead of setting a signal fire
Posted by: kbdabear at June 27, 2012 07:59 AM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Piercello at June 27, 2012 08:00 AM (L4NUg)
Posted by: Joe Mama at June 27, 2012 11:38 AM (TLHj1)
Thanks for the specifics. I'm mostly going from memories of *a lot* of very unhappy comments about the situation from my parents and other while growing up.
Posted by: Polliwogette, Teahada hobbit at June 27, 2012 08:00 AM (Qe7jo)
Posted by: mpfs at June 27, 2012 11:57 AM
I've seen lonely times when I could not find a friend
Posted by: James Taylor at June 27, 2012 08:00 AM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at work, team dagny at June 27, 2012 11:44 AM (JV2v
Which is odd, because my parents and in-laws live near Ft Collins and were pretty sure it was a lightening strike. I'm not sure why two weeks later there's suddenly reports that it was arson.
Posted by: Polliwogette, Teahada hobbit at June 27, 2012 08:02 AM (Qe7jo)
Posted by: small town girl at June 27, 2012 08:04 AM (F1vUG)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 27, 2012 08:04 AM (exvgC)
Posted by: bakanomiko at June 27, 2012 08:11 AM (YBnr0)
Posted by: gekkobear at June 27, 2012 08:13 AM (FYX6y)
Posted by: small town girl at June 27, 2012 12:04 PM (F1vUG)
I have often said when the next break up of the country comes it will start in the West. For decades there has been an ongoing war with federal authorities over water rights. Now we can add forest management to the list of federal crap.
The war over water rights has actually gone to guns on occasion but you never hear about it. Its not "news".
Posted by: Vic at June 27, 2012 08:22 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: praying for all the families at June 27, 2012 08:27 AM (HOOye)
That and an arsonist. Although the Recreation Office kiddie who was appointed Distric Ranger by the Dems is still blaming target shooters.
Posted by: Kristopher at June 27, 2012 08:42 AM (0aV2C)
oddly enough, I'm reading Malkin more now than I've ever read her stuff, which was very very occasional at best. She's doing a spectacular job of chronicling this and I'm assuming it will become a book. It's horrific but if you are used to hurricanes as nature's mode of revenge, learning about those who experience fires is very informative and eye opening. I've enlisted everyone to at least pray. I've sent the links to her ways to help and most are helping, regardless of political affiliation.
Posted by: morning coffee crew at June 27, 2012 08:45 AM (oZfic)
In my memory I seem to recall hannity going to a very fertile valley in CA that lost its access to water to help a fish? Do you remember that?
Posted by: morning coffee crew at June 27, 2012 08:47 AM (oZfic)
Henceforth, I'll be blaming all natural disasters on Obama. Earthquakes, floods, hurricanes, etc. All Obama's fault.
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 27, 2012 09:00 AM (JH7gi)
Posted by: codekeyguy at June 27, 2012 09:01 AM (frcIA)
Posted by: Kanye at June 27, 2012 09:02 AM (kEOQs)
If true, Romney should be all over this painting this as Obama's Katrina.
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 27, 2012 09:07 AM (JH7gi)
my ex-husband told me that the reason there weren't more firefighting planes was because of the Republican congress. That Obama had signed the order for more, but congress held it up. It is interesting to see the real story.
Of course my ex-husband also told me he would never vote for Romney because all Romney cares about is big business. So that's pretty much where his head is these days (firmly up his ass).
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 27, 2012 09:16 AM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: WalrusRex
I'm there as well. I pray for all around the state who are having to face this devastation and pray no more lives are lost.
Posted by: Cheri at June 27, 2012 10:02 AM (G+Wff)
Posted by: Parteagirl at June 27, 2012 10:27 AM (8/Kmk)
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at June 27, 2012 10:37 AM (1hM1d)
Just in case anyone's still checking this thread I got an on-the-ground explanation of claims for arson re:Ft Collins fire.
The big fire was indeed started by lightening, but some *freak* went and set 4 more, fortunately since put out, in the area after the big one started.
Boulder fire is *not* out, but the one near Estes is. That one is thought to have started from a powerline problem.
Posted by: Polliwogette, Teahada hobbit at June 27, 2012 11:17 AM (Qe7jo)
The county just west of El Paso is Teller. They have had an arsonist who has set 20 plus fires in their forests in the last couple of months. There is suspicion that he moved over a county. In the last couple of days there have also been an unexplained [no lightening in the area] fire on Colorado Highway 67 just over the county line from Teller to Douglas to the north, another one in Elbert County east of El Paso [in damn near the only stand of trees in the County], another one on Fountain Creek south of Colorado Springs, and two more on Gold Camp Road a few miles south of the big fire.
In my county,. yesterday someone was spotted near a 50 sq. foot grass fire in an area that burned real badly a few years ago. Locals spotted the smoke and responded. There was a White Male, 6', 200 lbs. shaved head, goatee, white t-shirt, jeans, white tennis shoes. Instead of helping fight the fire when asked, he fled in a silver 1990's Toyota. He is being sought by law enforcement as a "person of interest". He is being sought by locals with more direct intentions.
Seeing the mass of Twitter messages from Leftists rejoicing about the Colorado Springs fire because the area is very conservative and home to Focus on the Family [All the fires listed above are in VERY conservative areas. The fires in Boulder and the High Park fire up by Ft. Collins are known to have been started by lightning.] .... I am not a trusting soul, and I have not given any Leftist the benefit of the doubt for a long time.
Subotai Bahadur
Posted by: Subotai Bahadur at June 27, 2012 11:39 AM (j/Lk0)
Posted by: Polliwogette, Teahada hobbit at June 27, 2012 12:15 PM (Qe7jo)
Another fire erupted suddenly yesterday very close to the town of Boulder (hippies from Denver have been moving to choice downwind locations). If you saw video of a four engine C130 transport flying close to nearly sheer elevations in 75 degree dives to deliver flame retardant - you saw video of that fire (C130 pilots are craaaaazy).
Posted by: R Dale at June 27, 2012 01:30 PM (o9Fhq)
They are a sick sick bunch.
Posted by: R Dale at June 27, 2012 01:37 PM (o9Fhq)
Posted by: steevy at June 27, 2012 02:22 PM (Xb3hu)
Posted by: R Dale at June 27, 2012 05:37 PM (o9Fhq)
Like I said, roasted alive seems *very* fair. And no, I don't mean the kid that accidentally torched a field with fireworks (I actually know a couple of those) although there should be penalties for time and effort, I mean those who set the things *on purpose*. Maybe they're nuts at some level, but I don't really care at this point.
Posted by: Polliwogette, Teahada hobbit at June 27, 2012 02:36 PM (Qe7jo)
Posted by: D at June 27, 2012 06:30 PM (U5+iw)
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