May 16, 2012

Dave Weigel: Massive Enthusiasm Edge for Republicans in Wisconsin Real
— CAC

Weigel's latest piece on Slate describes the massive swing indicated in Public Policy Polling's Kos poll of the state, in which Republicans hold a massive seven-point edge in turnout:


When I journeyed to Wisconsin last week, I saw a surge of public support for Walker -- signs, bumper stickers, little tokens like those -- unlike anything I've ever seen in a non-presidential race. The polling bears this out. It's not necessarily doom-saying for Obama. It does explain why the DNC is quietly backing away from the race. Easier to give up then to try and narrow this enthusiasm gap twice.

MULaw Poll will be up in 90 minutes.

Posted by: CAC at 07:51 AM | Comments (92)
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1 the president is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable tyrant/failure

Posted by: phoenixgirl at work at May 16, 2012 07:52 AM (4/NTV)

2 No background information on the Journalista Weigel?

Perhaps you could re-post his cheeky 'Fuck You' picture from Twitter.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at May 16, 2012 07:53 AM (ebPtk)

3

MULaw Poll will be up in 90 minutes.


Alrighty then.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 16, 2012 07:54 AM (rDUTp)

4 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at May 16, 2012 07:55 AM (8y9MW)

5 November can not come soon enough.

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at May 16, 2012 07:55 AM (niW49)

6

What does this say about how Wisconsin will "vote" in November (or are the two completely separate)?

 

'Cuz I'm thinking that WI is gonna do to Obama what The Hulk did to Loki in The Avengers.....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at May 16, 2012 07:55 AM (0xqzf)

7
Wisconsinites don't wanna be Greek?

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 16, 2012 07:56 AM (rDUTp)

8 These polls are real, and they are spectacular.
 
Where is Greg?

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 16, 2012 07:56 AM (ccXZP)

Posted by: steveegg at May 16, 2012 07:56 AM (o44nj)

10 I'm no expert, nor did I sleep in a Holiday Inn last night, but I would say it's a good general indicator. 

In all likelihood, the margin will be closer (especially if Walker wins in a blowout), but that it won't shift by more than just few points.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at May 16, 2012 07:57 AM (8y9MW)

11

Now... suposedly 1 Million signatures were on the recall petition, but only 650K voted to recall him....

 

If I was the Gov, I'd go over that list with a fine tooth comb, and actualy contact those who supposedly signed it to ensure they did...

 

Document the hell out of it... and if (as there almost certainly is ) there is fraud?  SUE the folks who put the Petition together for ALL the Money he had to spend in the recall election... as it was the direct result of the fraud, and THOSE are damages.

 

We need to clean the election process up.... folks need to be held accountable for fraud...

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 16, 2012 07:57 AM (lZBBB)

12 They should change the law in Wisconsin so that a group initiating a losing recall challenge has to repay the state for the expenses of dealing with it.  Why should the taxpayers have to find this shit?

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at May 16, 2012 07:58 AM (dL9LY)

13 'Cuz I'm thinking that WI is gonna do to Obama what The Hulk did to Loki in The Avengers.....

Puny "god"...

Posted by: Hulk at May 16, 2012 07:58 AM (e0xKF)

14 No background information on the Journalista Weigel?

Perhaps you could re-post his cheeky 'Fuck You' picture from Twitter.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 16, 2012 11:53 AM (ebPtk)


From his picture I could guess that he's a pillow biter.  Other than that I got nothing.

Posted by: Hedgehog at May 16, 2012 07:58 AM (3jGS1)

15 Steve in Tom's defense (can't believe I'm doing that) the "official" number comes out tomorrow. Rs are smart though in knowing controlling the news cycle even for a day is critical. Weigel's admission will blunt any screwy MULaw poll if they try to show race is still dead heat or leans Barrett. Everyone from the DNC down sees what is happening there.

Posted by: CAC at May 16, 2012 07:59 AM (m716A)

16 Take Wisconsin away from JEF, and he gets even more desperate and gaffetastic.

Schadenfreude.

Posted by: logprof at May 16, 2012 07:59 AM (ykSKg)

17 'Cuz I'm thinking that WI is gonna do to Obama what The Hulk did to Loki in The Avengers.....

Puny "god"...

Posted by: Hulk at May 16, 2012 11:58 AM (e0xKF)


Hey dillweed, some of us haven't seen it yet...sheesh.

Posted by: Hedgehog at May 16, 2012 07:59 AM (3jGS1)

18 I take back my questioning of the +7R PPP poll from yesterday. This is amazing.

Posted by: Colonel Pooteh at May 16, 2012 08:01 AM (pReJQ)

19 Gotta hope R enthusiasm doesn't wane between June and November though. *hopes*

Posted by: Walter Freeman at May 16, 2012 08:03 AM (kqGWM)

20 "Weigel was hired [in 2010] by the [Washington] Post to cover the conservative movement. Almost from the beginning there have been complaints that his coverage betrays a personal animus toward conservatives.  E-mails obtained by the Daily Caller suggest those complaints have merit.

“Honestly, it’s been tough to find fresh angles sometimes–how many times can I report that these [tea party] activists are joyfully signing up with the agenda of discredited right-winger X and discredited right-wing group Y?” Weigel lamented in one February email.

In other posts, Weigel describes conservatives as using the media to “violently, angrily divide America.” According to Weigel, their motives include “racism” and protecting “white privilege,” and for some of the top conservatives in D.C., a nihilistic thirst for power."

* * *
Why you cob-logger keep giving that human fart oxygen is beyond me.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at May 16, 2012 08:03 AM (ebPtk)

21 Posted by: Hulk at May 16, 2012 11:58 AM (e0xKF)

Hey dillweed, some of us haven't seen it yet...sheesh.

Posted by: Hedgehog at May 16, 2012 11:59 AM (3jGS1)


Try to vote before December, in that case.
The movie is worth the price of admission for that scene alone.
Buy popcorn.  Lots of popcorn.

Posted by: jwb7605 at May 16, 2012 08:04 AM (Qxe/p)

22 Why you cob-logger keep giving that human fart oxygen is beyond me. Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 16, 2012 12:03 PM (ebPtk) Because it is clear evidence the numbers favoring Walker are real and blows hole after hole into lefty arguments that pollsters are oversampling. If Weigel and Sargent and the rest are reportng that things aren't going great for the Dems in Wisconsin regarding the recall, they really are that bad for them.

Posted by: CAC at May 16, 2012 08:05 AM (m716A)

23 21 Gotta hope R enthusiasm doesn't wane between June and November though. *hopes* Posted by: Walter Freeman at May 16, 2012 12:03 PM (kqGWM) I am cautiously optimistic that last Tuesday's voting is an aftershock of November 2010. This coming November is going to be VERY interesting indeed.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 16, 2012 08:05 AM (noo6E)

24 Wisconsinites don't wanna be Greek?

****

Whereas Obama and the Donks want to do us Greek style IYKWIMAITTYD.

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 16, 2012 08:06 AM (Hx5uv)

25 Hey dillweed, some of us haven't seen it yet...sheesh.

Posted by: Hedgehog at May 16, 2012 11:59 AM (3jGS1)

 

Trust me - nothing has been "given away"; you'll LOVE it (and won't be expecting it.....)

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at May 16, 2012 08:06 AM (0xqzf)

26

I'm real good at finding the dark cloud inside the silver lining; I'm a New England sports fan.

What kinda bums me out is, if the unions and DNC (birm) are keeping their powder dry, then they'll have that money to spend in other places.  Like here in MA-4, where we have a real chance to beat a Kennedy.

Posted by: Truman North at May 16, 2012 08:06 AM (UFS11)

27 Which reminds me:  Go to David Steinhof's page (in my sig) and drop us a couple thou.

Posted by: Truman North at May 16, 2012 08:07 AM (UFS11)

28 Ah. Leftard tears....2012 promises to be a very good year indeed. Get your share!

Posted by: maddogg at May 16, 2012 08:07 AM (OlN4e)

29 12 Now... suposedly 1 Million signatures were on the recall petition, but only 650K voted to recall him....

If I was the Gov, I'd go over that list with a fine tooth comb, and actualy contact those who supposedly signed it to ensure they did...
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Nah. There's a better use.

There's a story out there that these recalls are quietly a HUGE gift to the WI GOP. Before, they didn't have a list of likely Democrat voters. Now, they have near 1 million self-identified Dems in a state of only 5.7 million--that cast 1.6 million votes for the JEF and 1.2 for McCain. They've got the same lists for the recall of the senators.

I wish I could find it but, it's something they've never had before and this allows them to more finely tune who and who not to contact.

Posted by: jimmuy at May 16, 2012 08:07 AM (kSaUf)

30 Schadenfreude

Tastes almost as good as popcorn.  Popcorn seasoned with the sweet, sweet tears of Union goons.

Posted by: CUS at May 16, 2012 08:07 AM (84pE9)

31 that's Dave Ratfucking Journolister Weigs Weigel. So the story is Too Fail To Lie Big.

Posted by: Elizabeth Screaming Chicken Warren at May 16, 2012 08:07 AM (KHo8t)

32 Scott Walker stood up to the union and won. He will be a Rock Star.

Posted by: Jypsea Rose~AoSHQ Graveyard Shift at May 16, 2012 08:08 AM (iKSAz)

33 Buy popcorn. Lots of popcorn.

Posted by: jwb7605 at May 16, 2012 12:04 PM (Qxe/p)

 

*channeling Mom*

And go to the bathroom right before the movie starts - you don't want to miss a minute of it.....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at May 16, 2012 08:08 AM (0xqzf)

34

I hope Palins endorsement of Ted Cruz  here in Texas is as effective as it was for Fischer in Nebraska.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at May 16, 2012 08:11 AM (mFxQX)

35 If Romeny wins Wisconsin and wins the general election by less than Wisconsin's number of electoral votes, the unions will have effectively helped elect a Republican president.  Sweet.

Posted by: OCBill at May 16, 2012 08:12 AM (rFipM)

36 >Massive Enthusiasm Edge


would you characterize the enthusiasm as 'moist and tingling' or straight-up hardon?

Posted by: Jones in CO at May 16, 2012 08:12 AM (8sCoq)

37

The REALLY interesting thing about that PPP Poll is that the numbers break the way that they do (heavily weighted towards Republicans) BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T FIND ANY MORE DEMOCRATS WHO WERE "LIKELY" TO VOTE.

 

The Dems may cry "biased poll", but - in this case, anyway - it reflects reality for this  one particular election.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at May 16, 2012 08:12 AM (0xqzf)

38 If Kos really cared, he would offer himself (?) as a non-human sacrafice on the alter of Marx. But instead he will piss and moan like the little sawed off, pencil dick dwarf retard whiney bitch that he is.

Posted by: maddogg at May 16, 2012 08:13 AM (OlN4e)

39

would you characterize the enthusiasm as 'moist and tingling' or straight-up hardon?

 

Skillet handle hard so that if you push down on it your feet come off the ground.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at May 16, 2012 08:14 AM (mFxQX)

40

The sleeping giant of anti-Obama voters is just starting to rouse now. They are still focusing on DWTS and American Idol. Too soon to consider throwing the bum out, since November is way too far away yet.

It's gonna be a long hot summer. For the left. Enough to burn the popcorn.

Posted by: Roy at May 16, 2012 08:14 AM (VndSC)

41 Screw this shit lets go on patrol

Posted by: Captain Z armed NW guy at May 16, 2012 08:14 AM (Qr9Rc)

42 41If Kos really cared, he would offer himself (?) as a non-human sacrafice on the alter of Marx. But instead he will piss and moan like the little sawed off, pencil dick dwarf retard whiney bitchthat he is.

Posted by: maddogg at May 16, 2012 12:13 PM (OlN4e)

 

He'd offer his cutsey paper maiche likeness lovingly handcrafted by diseased occutards.

Posted by: model_1066 at May 16, 2012 08:15 AM (YbQJm)

43 Our enthusiasm isn't going to wane. This is the vote we've been waiting for. The jobs #'s have Barrett screaming like a stuck pig again because he's got NOTHING.


If the MU poll shows anything other than 5 point lead for Walker I'm betting the internals show all of the polling taking place in City of Milwaukee and Dane County.

The Dems are resorting to stealing signs again...nobody standing on overpasses anymore with Recall Walker Signs, and the most popular bumper sticker now (which I have on my car) is Recall Santa - I didn't get what I wanted. The Dems have become a running joke.


Posted by: H Badger at May 16, 2012 08:15 AM (n/0Nw)

44 Yay, JournoList!

Weigel is a douche. He may have stumbled across something here the way a broken clock is right twice a day, but whatever.

Posted by: Andy at May 16, 2012 08:16 AM (5Rurq)

45
Kos is getting rich of DKos.

His little cult-following buys all kinds of shit in which he gets a piece of the pie.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 16, 2012 08:16 AM (rDUTp)

46 If we mention Weigel enough, he might come over and argue in the comments with us. It's happened before, and it's fun!

Posted by: Jay in Ames at May 16, 2012 08:17 AM (UEEex)

47 Why you cob-logger keep giving that human fart oxygen is beyond me. Admission against interest.

Posted by: toby928© at May 16, 2012 08:17 AM (NG097)

48 48
Kos is getting rich of DKos.

His little cult-following buys all kinds of shit in which he gets a piece of the pie.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 16, 2012 12:16 PM (rDUTp)

 

 

 

 

I had no idea that there was such a market for recycled size 0 rubbers.

Posted by: maddogg at May 16, 2012 08:17 AM (OlN4e)

49 There SHOULD be a massive gap in enthusiasm.  The Dems have to know they are voting for higher taxes and insolvency.  Governor Walker just showed how to generate a budget surplus by resisting the union gravy train, and a vote for Barrett is a vote against the budget surplus.

Posted by: Advo at May 16, 2012 08:17 AM (7vbG1)

50
Yeah, wait until the early voting shit starts. That's where the Democrats really hurt us. They vote as many times as they can before election day...and then vote again.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 16, 2012 08:17 AM (rDUTp)

51 The MFM and talking-head left is still running around demonizing the "Tea Party" as a bunch as yahoo wackos out of touch with America. Problem is,  for them anyway,  most of the country agrees with the tea party concept. And the TP itself is sitting there, stewing, and saying "Keep on laughing, mutha-f**%^rs"

Posted by: Roy at May 16, 2012 08:17 AM (VndSC)

52 "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."

Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at May 16, 2012 08:18 AM (E3EVz)

53 >> If we mention Weigel enough, he might come over and argue in the comments with us. It's happened before, and it's fun!

CAC should have made the headline work as an @ mention on Twitter when it posts.

Stoopid CAC!

Posted by: Andy at May 16, 2012 08:19 AM (5Rurq)

54

Every 32 years, give or take, there is a "realignment" in national voting trends. 

 

Democrats thought that the realignment happened in 2008.

 

It really happened in 2010.

Posted by: Truman North at May 16, 2012 08:20 AM (UFS11)

55 Posted by: Roy at May 16, 2012 12:17 PM (VndSC)

Every time I see that name, I picture McClane in Die Hard on the phone, "Call me...Roy". Is that where it's from?

Posted by: Jay in Ames at May 16, 2012 08:20 AM (UEEex)

56 46 ... This is the vote we've been waiting for. ...

Posted by: H Badger at May 16, 2012 12:15 PM (n/0Nw)


Bumper sticker material thread winner.

Without being overtly partisan, that would energize conservatives and demoralize progressives.


Posted by: jwb7605 at May 16, 2012 08:20 AM (Qxe/p)

57 55 "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."

 

Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at May 16, 2012 12:18 PM (E3EVz)

 

And he likes... TEA....

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 16, 2012 08:21 AM (lZBBB)

58

Every time I see that name, I picture McClane in Die Hard on the phone, "Call me...Roy". Is that where it's from?

 

Actually, from Roy Rogers. Inherited. I like the Die Hard angle better.

Posted by: Roy at May 16, 2012 08:21 AM (VndSC)

59
I think early voting in FL begins in late September.

If you remember back in 08, the news film showing long lines of Black people in Florida who just couldn't wait to vote for Obama.

When I saw that I had no doubt that these people were standing in line day after day, voting again and again.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 16, 2012 08:21 AM (rDUTp)

60 Now... suposedly 1 Million signatures were on the recall petition, but only 650K voted to recall him....

If I was the Gov, I'd go over that list with a fine tooth comb, and actualy contact those who supposedly signed it to ensure they did...




Actually that list was shown to be full of obvious fraud with names like Mickey Mouse when it was turned in.  The eelection official reused to touch saying that if they wanted signatures challenged Walkr's people would have to go through the entire list and challenge each sig individually. IOW they were bought off by the unions.  The fix was in.

Posted by: Vic at May 16, 2012 08:21 AM (YdQQY)

61 "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."


******

Indiscriminate and unwarranted bombing attacks are known to backfire.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 16, 2012 08:22 AM (piMMO)

62 should have made the headline work as an @ mention on Twitter when it posts.

Uh oh, I suspect we are about to see a trend in posting. Heh.

*twitter is throttling your feed

Posted by: Jay in Ames at May 16, 2012 08:22 AM (UEEex)

63 The other point about this, WI is not the only State they are showing massive trouble in.  One site this morning was talking abouty them wanting to move their convention because NC is no longer a toss-up State and they have little chance of winning it.

Posted by: Vic at May 16, 2012 08:23 AM (YdQQY)

64 Walker: Wisconsin Ranger

Posted by: Chuck Norris at May 16, 2012 08:23 AM (c3mby)

65
Voting for their grandmother. Voting for their neighbor the next day.

Voting for your neighbor on Wednesday.

Voting for You on Thursday.

Voting for their dog on Friday.

Voting for their dead neighbor's dead dog on the next Monday...

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 16, 2012 08:23 AM (rDUTp)

66 One site this morning was talking abouty them wanting to move their convention because NC is no longer a toss-up State and they have little chance of winning it.


****

Headline story at Drudge today.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 16, 2012 08:24 AM (piMMO)

67 One site this morning was talking abouty them wanting to move their convention because NC is no longer a toss-up State and they have little chance of winning it.

They've been talking about that since before the gay marriage vote in the state.

The problems there are two-fold.

One, it's too hard to pick up stakes and move elsewhere at the last second

Two, the party's broke.  Even if they could pull it off logistically, they don't have the money to do it.  They've been reduced to begging the unions for sponsorship and advertising money for the convention booklet because they're so far in the red.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 16, 2012 08:25 AM (e0xKF)

68
I love it.

The Democrats are screwed no matter what they do in NC.
Thanks to Obama, they have no chance in keeping the governor's office.

Plus, as I said earlier, keeping the convention in NC will undoubtedly cause a lot of problems within the Democrat establishment and base.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 16, 2012 08:27 AM (rDUTp)

69 I think also, this would be a good time to mock all the left's attempts to counter the Tea Party--Coffee Party, No Labels, OWS, etc.

Hey lefties: Where's your silly astro-turf party now? Oh, you got nothing? And the adults in your party have told you to sit down, shut up and/or go away? And they're not even going to spend any money on your little hissy fit in WI?

Oh. So sad.

At least your Gay for Pay Prez is on the "right side of history" or whatever the fuck that means. I mean, losing only 5% of the black, hispanic, Catholic and white vote is no big deal, right? Oh, wait: It is a big fucking deal--it means your jug-eared fuck of a Prez loses in a landslide. And you're going down with him.

History called. It wants to know what the tires of the Obama bus tastes like.

Posted by: jimmuy at May 16, 2012 08:27 AM (kSaUf)

70

@46 - " Recall Santa - I didn't get what I wanted."

 

I love that one.

Posted by: BadgerHawk at May 16, 2012 08:27 AM (7gV52)

71 When I saw that I had no doubt that these people were standing in line day after day, voting again and again.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 16, 2012 12:21 PM (rDUTp)



In St Johns County ( and I think in all FLA counties ) you need to show a government-issued photo ID to vote, and sign your name--and the signature must match previous signatures if you voted in prior elections


When you vote, your signature establishes that you have voted and ALLEGEDLY you will not be allowed to vote again

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at May 16, 2012 08:27 AM (Dll6b)

72 O/T: Simon and Schuster is putting out a book about Romney's dog on the roof, and of course they're coordinating with "Dogs Against Romney".

Link on my name to Jim Treacher explaining how it would be wrong to make hilarious Photoshops of the book's cover with Obama eating dogs.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 16, 2012 08:28 AM (tqwMN)

73 Wis Cons have beer, bratwurst, and case after case of pudding on hand for June 6th.  We are ready, and the enthusiasm is real.

TGFSW.

Posted by: the botnet at May 16, 2012 08:28 AM (l3G6Q)

74 ENTHUSIASMS!!!

Posted by: dananjcon at May 16, 2012 08:29 AM (eavT+)

75 You know that they know they have lost it when:

they go back to calling us "Teabaggers." 

Schadenboner.

"Well I'm proud to be a Teabagger's daughter..."

Posted by: Jimbo at May 16, 2012 08:29 AM (O3R/2)

76 More poll goodness --
 
President Obama is barely leading an out of state challenger in the May 22 Arkansas Democratic primary, according to a local poll conducted by the respected Hendrix College and Talk Business Research.

The poll of likely voters has Obama leading Tennessee attorney John Wolfe by 45-38 percent. Wolfe is also running against Obama in the May 29 Texas primary, according to the Weekly Standard.

 
via WZ http://tinyurl.com/89oxyjp

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 16, 2012 08:29 AM (ccXZP)

77 Gay for Pay
-----------------

good, jimmuy!

Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at May 16, 2012 08:31 AM (E3EVz)

78

Union thugs destroying the Capitol Building, State employees abusing the sick day policy didn't exactly help their cause.

**

I will bathe in their tears. 

Posted by: dananjcon at May 16, 2012 08:32 AM (eavT+)

79 I'd bet that if we were to do the purple dye on fingers to prevent vote fraud, there would suddenly be lots of fingerless democrats.

Posted by: model_1066 at May 16, 2012 08:32 AM (YbQJm)

80

I can absolutely attest to the enthusiasm gap.  I'm in downtown Madison, and until recently you would never see a single car with a Republican bumper sticker.  Not one.  Now I'm seeing a couple every day.

 

Meanwhile, very few houses have Barrett signs up.  Some still have their Recall Walker signs, but I've only seen a handful of actual Pro-Barrett signs since the primary.

Posted by: BadgerHawk at May 16, 2012 08:33 AM (7gV52)

81 Remember, to all of my posse that I'm shoutin' out to - go get Cousin Pookie out to the poll to vote against the EVIL WHITE DEVIL HONKEY SLAVEMASTERS!!!

And Grandma Shaniqua
And Aunt Esther
And Uncle Rufus, who dies in 1999
And you sista Lafonda, and her 13 chilrens

Posted by: Barry "O" da Media Ho at May 16, 2012 08:33 AM (Jls4P)

82

69 One site this morning was talking abouty them wanting to move their
convention because NC is no longer a SALAD toss-up State and they have little
chance of winning it.

***

Fify

Posted by: dananjcon at May 16, 2012 08:34 AM (eavT+)

83 In St Johns County ( and I think in all FLA counties ) you need to show a government-issued photo ID to vote, and sign your name--and the signature must match previous signatures if you voted in prior elections
When you vote, your signature establishes that you have voted and ALLEGEDLY you will not be allowed to vote again

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at May 16, 2012 12:27 PM (Dll6b)



The problem comes in when you have Dem operatives as poll attendants in some of the urban districts.  They will allow outright fraud knowing it is fraud.  To prevent this you have to have Republican volunteers as poll watchers making sure the poll attendants are following the law. 


The problem is the republicans never have a good ground game in some of those counties and districts so no poll watchers.

Posted by: Vic at May 16, 2012 08:37 AM (YdQQY)

84 In St Johns County ( and I think in all FLA counties
) you need to show a government-issued photo ID to vote, and sign your
name--and the signature must match previous signatures if you voted in
prior elections
When you vote, your signature establishes that you have voted and ALLEGEDLY you will not be allowed to vote again


*****

The same is true for Duval. I can tell when my daughter has voted because her name is listed directly below mine on the ledger.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 16, 2012 08:40 AM (piMMO)

85

And you sista Lafonda, and her 13 chilrens

I think the proper term is 'chilluns'...I speak jive.

Posted by: model_1066 at May 16, 2012 08:40 AM (YbQJm)

86
The problem comes in when you have Dem operatives as poll attendants in some of the urban districts. They will allow outright fraud knowing it is fraud. To prevent this you have to have Republican volunteers as poll watchers making sure the poll attendants are following the law.
The problem is the republicans never have a good ground game in some of those counties and districts so no poll watchers.


*****

I was a poll watcher in 2004 and got lucky and was assigned to my own precinct. Others were sent to some pretty shady areas.

As for the ground game, I only "watched" for about two hours because the Republican party listed me under my daughter's name by mistake and the Dems had me expelled.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 16, 2012 08:43 AM (piMMO)

87

>>Two, the party's broke. Even if they could pull it off logistically, they don't have the money to do it. They've been reduced to begging the unions for sponsorship and advertising money for the convention booklet because they're so far in the red.

 

Brandon, Brandon, Brandon. The important thing is not that they actually move it, it's that they talk about their feeeeelings. They want to move it, but it's capitalism's fault or something that they can't.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 16, 2012 08:45 AM (XdlcF)

88

In St Johns County ( and I think in all FLA counties ) you need to show a government-issued photo ID to vote, and sign your name--and the signature must match previous signatures if you voted in prior elections
When you vote, your signature establishes that you have voted and ALLEGEDLY you will not be allowed to vote again

 


 

Posted by: SantaRosaStan

 

 

This is the same in Ohio.  The recent problems have been with "provisional" voting and early voting, because there are opportunities for fraud and to vote twice.  Provisional ballots are supposed to be kept separate from regular ballots until the residency , etc of the provisional voter has been verified.  No verification, the vote doesn't count.  The problem is with people who come into the state and create temporary address (which was done by a handful of Democrats in 200 , and not truly establish legal residency.

 

"Early voting " has also created the opportunity to vote twice in different precincts, if the documentation is sloppy.  The Republicans in Ohio want to get rid of early voting, and of course, the Democrats are opposed.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at May 16, 2012 08:53 AM (RFeQD)

89

92"Dog on the Roof"
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It's a cookbook!

 

Thought it was a dish...like pigs in a blanket...

Posted by: model_1066 at May 16, 2012 08:57 AM (YbQJm)

90 Quoting Weigel:"It does explain why the DNC is quietly backing away from the race. Easier to give up *then* to try and narrow this enthusiasm gap twice."

Um, Mr. Journalist Man, it's "than", not "then".  Sheesh!

Posted by: Mr_Write at May 16, 2012 09:13 AM (VJUQK)

91 "Dog on the Roof"
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Is is Scratch n Sniff?

Posted by: Bo Rocks Obama at May 16, 2012 09:32 AM (mxnUd)

92 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at May 16, 2012 10:39 AM (7W3wI)

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