February 27, 2012
— rdbrewer Big wreck on lap two.
Added: In case you're wondering, a race car hit a jet attached to a truck.
As of right now, 11:20 Eastern, they're cleaning the track. They plan on re-starting soon. 40 laps to go. Also...
"Monday Night Racing" has a nice ring to it.
And Hank Williams Jr. is available. The Montoya wreck.
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Posted by: ontherocks at February 27, 2012 03:34 PM (ZJCDy)
Posted by: buzzion at February 27, 2012 03:34 PM (GULKT)
I think I'm going to change careers and become a pirate king. As long as there is no lacrosse involved.
Posted by: wooga at February 27, 2012 03:34 PM (vjyZP)
Posted by: Ombudsman at February 27, 2012 03:35 PM (AxHOT)
Posted by: rdbrewer at February 27, 2012 03:37 PM (Iyg03)
Posted by: Lincolntf at February 27, 2012 03:38 PM (HethX)
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 27, 2012 03:39 PM (8sCoq)
6 You won't see many pictures of the stands, they are half empty.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at February 27, 2012 07:35 PM (hXJOG)
A lot of people going to the Daytona 500 have probably already been down there for a week to see all of the other races. I bet the stands are fuller than almost any other race that gets postponed for a day.
Posted by: buzzion at February 27, 2012 03:39 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 27, 2012 03:40 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: blaster at February 27, 2012 03:40 PM (Fw2Gg)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 27, 2012 03:41 PM (DiqH3)
Posted by: Havedash at February 27, 2012 03:42 PM (JfvbF)
Probably almost as bad as trying to find a room during bike week.
I travel there a lot for work. Always stay at the airport Hilton (or is it a Hampton?) where they put me in a room with a view of the track. Kinda cool.
Posted by: Wodeshed at February 27, 2012 03:42 PM (K6sn/)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 27, 2012 03:43 PM (DiqH3)
Posted by: garrett at February 27, 2012 03:43 PM (pI8GG)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at February 27, 2012 07:35 PM (hXJOG)
NASCAR is in trouble. I had tickets at Dover for years, but I gave them up. Something is missing. For me, when #3 died, that changed things - the very definition of balls- cool, kick-your-ass-and-smile-while-doing-it-swagger - has been replaced by a bunch of Nancy-Boys. These drivers may be in top shape, but they aren't men
Posted by: Ombudsman at February 27, 2012 03:44 PM (AxHOT)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2012 03:44 PM (Af3Wg)
I think Ace is going full blown C.J.
I'll miss the best of this place.
At least it's a sure bet Ace can find lots of bicycle seats with a fine bouquet in Manhattan.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at February 27, 2012 03:44 PM (7+pP9)
Posted by: steevy at February 27, 2012 03:45 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 27, 2012 03:45 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: ontherocks at February 27, 2012 03:45 PM (ZJCDy)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at February 27, 2012 03:46 PM (QTHTd)
Aww man Patrick is in the garage. Now we're going to actually have to talk about the race. Oh wait we can give lap by lap updates on the work on her car! We're saved!
Posted by: NASCAR Announcers at February 27, 2012 03:46 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: CoolCzech at February 27, 2012 03:47 PM (niZvt)
Yeah, but her career nowadays seems to focus mostly on very tight, very skimpy clothing. Not that I have a problem with that.
Posted by: pep at February 27, 2012 03:48 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at February 27, 2012 07:35 PM (hXJOG)
I think the recession might be factor.
Posted by: scif at February 27, 2012 03:48 PM (TqLxU)
just goes to prove you should never try to parallel park and insert a tampon at the same time.
Put a Yugo in her Hidey-ho.
Posted by: Wodeshed at February 27, 2012 03:48 PM (K6sn/)
Posted by: CoolCzech at February 27, 2012 03:49 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Dumb Dora at February 27, 2012 03:49 PM (h6mPj)
"Danacia honey, stop crying. I don't care about the car, the insurance can take care of that. Are YOU OK?"
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 27, 2012 03:50 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: t-bird at February 27, 2012 03:50 PM (FcR7P)
I think Ace is going full blown C.J.
I'll miss the best of this place.
At least it's a sure bet Ace can find lots of bicycle seats with a fine bouquet in Manhattan.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at February 27, 2012 07:44 PM (7+pP9)
You know that does sometimes happen on its own. Don't be a dick about it.
Posted by: buzzion at February 27, 2012 03:50 PM (GULKT)
What, did Danica hit a parked car?
Posted by: Wodeshed at February 27, 2012 07:37 PM (K6sn/)
More importantly, did Waltrip and the rest of the gang describe how skillfully she did it 653 times??
Posted by: Portnoy at February 27, 2012 03:51 PM (BmHW5)
Posted by: SgtHulka at February 27, 2012 03:52 PM (IQo7h)
Complaining about Danica Patrick's politics is complaining about Obama, so. . .
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at February 27, 2012 03:53 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2012 07:44 PM (Af3Wg)
Holy Jesus!!!
Posted by: Portnoy at February 27, 2012 03:53 PM (BmHW5)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 27, 2012 03:54 PM (DiqH3)
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 27, 2012 07:45 PM (8sCoq)
Horseshit. It's a completely accurate statement. They're so managed, massaged, air-brushed caricatures of what made the sport great. Case in point-- who has facial hair? (other than the "corporate beard) Long hair? (since Kyle Petty retired). Not that hair matters, but it's instructive. Completely homogenous, interchangeable Barbie-men. Where are the Kings, the Intimidators...the Pearsons? Hell, I'd take Sterling Marlin at this point
Posted by: Ombudsman at February 27, 2012 03:54 PM (AxHOT)
Boobs too big for drivin (though I doubt it was the boobs, IYKWIMAITYD).
http://tinyurl.com/6wq487f
Posted by: Wodeshed at February 27, 2012 03:55 PM (K6sn/)
I've said for a long time that it's funny how the old generation of drivers have been replaced by a bunch of pretty faces. NASCAR sold out to advertising a long time ago.
Also, Danica strikes me as someone with strong lebanese tendencies. It seems a little strange that someone who's in the spotlight as much as she never seems to be photographed with a guy - or maybe I just don't keep up with her enough to know.
Posted by: Havedash at February 27, 2012 03:55 PM (JfvbF)
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 27, 2012 03:56 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at February 27, 2012 03:56 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Eric Cartman at February 27, 2012 03:56 PM (k4hO9)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 27, 2012 03:57 PM (DiqH3)
Because the thought of seeing Kyle Bush or Jeff Gordon naked makes most of us squirm?
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at February 27, 2012 03:58 PM (R5yLq)
Horseshit. It's a completely accurate statement. They're so managed, massaged, air-brushed caricatures of what made the sport great. Case in point-- who has facial hair? (other than the "corporate beard) Long hair? (since Kyle Petty retired). Not that hair matters, but it's instructive. Completely homogenous, interchangeable Barbie-men. Where are the Kings, the Intimidators...the Pearsons? Hell, I'd take Sterling Marlin at this point
Posted by: Ombudsman at February 27, 2012 07:54 PM (AxHOT)
And this is not to denigrate the skills of today's drivers. it's just that it's a big vanilla wash...
Posted by: Ombudsman at February 27, 2012 03:58 PM (AxHOT)
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 27, 2012 07:56 PM (8sCoq)
NO! He's the exception that proves the rule. Smoke is old school
Posted by: Ombudsman at February 27, 2012 04:00 PM (AxHOT)
Posted by: Eric Cartman at February 27, 2012 07:56 PM (k4hO9)
Umm. that would be turn left...then turn left again...and then wreck your goddamed car...Mr. Man.
Posted by: Don't Call Me Sexy Danica at February 27, 2012 04:00 PM (BmHW5)
thanks.
Posted by: jem at February 27, 2012 04:01 PM (0oYHO)
----
Don't forget to go fast part.
@69 My 85 y/o mother thinks Jeff Gordon is a god. For her birthday I got her a life size poster of him, and tapped it to the ceiling over her bed.
Posted by: Retread at February 27, 2012 04:02 PM (joSBv)
Posted by: booger at February 27, 2012 04:02 PM (29wvc)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at February 27, 2012 04:04 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: booger at February 27, 2012 04:04 PM (29wvc)
Posted by: cherry π at February 27, 2012 04:05 PM (OhYCU)
All: I'm no fan of Danica BUT:
you should know what you are talking about before you criticize her.
IF she bumped someone going into a turn, checked up too much before a turn, or came down, or went up and hit someone, THEN you can and should give her shit.
But in this case, she did nothing wrong. She followed the directions of her spotter as she could not see the wreck, and went low. Unfortunately, another car was to her inside, and she could not get low enough to escape incurring some damage. She did get lucky in that she only got tagged in the door/left rear corner panel, and even luckier getting between the 2 cars at the end. Personally, I'd like to see some video of her using the steering wheel during the wreck with an overhead of the position of her car on the track.
Nope. Sorry, guys. Can't agree any less. In this case, she did a fine job.
Posted by: john b at February 27, 2012 04:06 PM (ki2lW)
No shit, I we don't get a sponsor soon, my ass is fried. Now look booger, I know yer great, you know yer great, but...wait, yer not Tom Cruise...
Posted by: Tim Daland at February 27, 2012 04:07 PM (BmHW5)
Plenty of chances to pee, they just haven't figured out a way to work smooth diaper passes in the pit.
Posted by: ontherocks at February 27, 2012 04:08 PM (ZJCDy)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at February 27, 2012 04:09 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Mohammed A La Mustafa at February 27, 2012 04:09 PM (GsBJY)
Posted by: jem at February 27, 2012 08:01 PM (0oYHO)
Aw... Tami. Hugs and love.. When I had to put my sweetie down, I was bawling so hard they sent me out the back door. Just remember the good times you had together, and after a suitable time...get a puppy. It will renew your soul, and your beloved lab would want you to be happy.
Posted by: Ombudsman at February 27, 2012 04:10 PM (AxHOT)
DickTrickle.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 27, 2012 07:57 PM
****
What's his last name?
Posted by: Beavis at February 27, 2012 04:10 PM (ay6+/)
Posted by: ontherocks at February 27, 2012 04:11 PM (ZJCDy)
Nobody's criticizing the driving, just pointing out that everything is so micromanaged now that the personality of the sport is going by the wayside. If a driver dares say anything even slightly negative about another driver after a wreck or post race he'll get called into the front office for a warning at minimum.
Posted by: booger at February 27, 2012 04:11 PM (29wvc)
85 They are reliant on sponsors. None of the drivers are bigger than the sponsors. Kurt Busch was a former champion and got tossed. Granted he's an ugly, goofy looking guy.
When most of your money comes from high profile national sponsors, it inevitably leads to the wussification of their personalities.
Posted by: Clubber Lang at February 27, 2012 08:09 PM (ZPrif)
Stewart as a driver could probably get away with more. With Old Spice as his primary sponsor and the type of ads they are running his attitude his beneficial.
Stewart as an owner is probably pushing the line up to what is acceptable behavior for him.
Posted by: buzzion at February 27, 2012 04:12 PM (GULKT)
We would like a raise
Posted by: Dick Tube Union at February 27, 2012 04:15 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at February 27, 2012 04:16 PM (ZPrif)
The best suggestion...and I hate that I don't remember who it was...said to "change your engine every 500 miles."
Posted by: NC Ref at February 27, 2012 04:16 PM (/izg2)
Posted by: Bubba at February 27, 2012 08:10 PM (hXJOG)
What does Danica do when it's that time of the month?
I would assume the pill, so she doesn't get it on the weekends. And to quote Robert Klein when talking about Billie Jean King vs Bobby Riggs.. Time! My period! Are you kidding me, this woman is a champion! give her 50 pounds, and not only will she beat you in tennis, she'll rip your arm off and beat you to death with it.
Posted by: Ombudsman at February 27, 2012 04:17 PM (AxHOT)
Posted by: Christina Hendricks' Mighty Jugs are Really SMOD in Disguise at February 27, 2012 08:12 PM (16UJh)
Yep she's teh hawt!
Posted by: Sarah Jessica Parker at February 27, 2012 04:18 PM (/izg2)
Posted by: Dick Tube Union at February 27, 2012 04:22 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at February 27, 2012 04:23 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 27, 2012 07:57 PM (DiqH3)
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That's just cuz you like sayin' it.
Posted by: antisocialist at February 27, 2012 04:23 PM (j/nZn)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at February 27, 2012 04:24 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Havedash at February 27, 2012 04:25 PM (JfvbF)
And that kind of goes back to the complaints about the drivers being vanilla, used to be you could spend that time wondering if Earnhardt was going to go all intimidator on someone and so on, now there's nothing there except talking about if so and so is going to help out so and so because none of the drivers want to get punished by the front office.
Posted by: booger at February 27, 2012 04:26 PM (29wvc)
Posted by: Ombudsman at February 27, 2012 04:28 PM (AxHOT)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at February 27, 2012 04:28 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: booger at February 27, 2012 08:02 PM (29wvc)
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Sure she will, booger. Sponsors are willing to overlook a lot to have their name on the car of the First Woman To Finish (insert race here) In The Top 10.
Posted by: antisocialist at February 27, 2012 04:29 PM (j/nZn)
Posted by: teh Wind at February 27, 2012 04:29 PM (1kwr2)
Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at February 27, 2012 04:31 PM (qCR9V)
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True dat. First race we ever went to, the people behind us in the stands were already so drunk by the time the race started, the guy was passed out in his girlfriend's lap and my husband was seriously concerned about the possibility of being barfed on. And they weren't the exception, but the rule.
Posted by: antisocialist at February 27, 2012 04:31 PM (j/nZn)
SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- At least two law enforcement officers were injured Monday during a clash with members of the Occupy movement who were at the state Capitol to protest a rally by a pro-white group.
http://tinyurl.com/7fhcbs8 (sacbee link)
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 27, 2012 04:34 PM (BhuDE)
Posted by: Gary Hart at February 27, 2012 08:32 PM (K6sn/)
Sunday Money!
Posted by: Ombudsman at February 27, 2012 04:34 PM (AxHOT)
75 Danica won't be a nascar driver for long if she keeps wrecking in every damn race.
Posted by: booger at February 27, 2012 08:02 PM (29wvc)
What's really sad is that none of the wrecks she was involved in at Daytona have been her fault. Now would another driver have ended up wrecking in all of those situations? Probably not, but you can say that for plenty of the male drivers.
And Jeff Gordon is out! Jimmie Johnson and Jeff Gordon out of the race. Kyle Busch goes out and I'll be very happy.
Posted by: buzzion at February 27, 2012 04:34 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 27, 2012 04:35 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: steevy at February 27, 2012 04:35 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: McCain at February 27, 2012 04:37 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: steevy at February 27, 2012 04:37 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at February 27, 2012 04:40 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Rachel Madcow at February 27, 2012 04:40 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: Santorum at February 27, 2012 08:36 PM (OhYCU)
Go to Taladega. The infield pre-race is like Caligula is running the joint. Don't get me wrong, I love the naked, shapely female form, but... as the father of a teenage daughter.. I wanted to wade into this al fresco orgy with an axe.
Posted by: Ombudsman at February 27, 2012 04:41 PM (AxHOT)
Posted by: Y-not on iphone at February 27, 2012 04:41 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at February 27, 2012 08:40 PM (ZPrif)
And for a lot of them I would say it is their advertising beyond ad buys in magazines that are already appealing to the potential customers. Its not as if you see a lot of snow mobiles or motocross commercials on TV
Posted by: buzzion at February 27, 2012 04:42 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Y-not on iphone at February 27, 2012 08:41 PM (5H6zj)
It keeps contacting the other pit crews urging them to help him on the next pit stop.
Posted by: buzzion at February 27, 2012 04:44 PM (GULKT)
If that's her excuse, she's wearing 'em backwards. And, they're hanging a bit low.
Posted by: Hammersmith Police at February 27, 2012 04:45 PM (Onw8c)
Posted by: Brock O'bama at February 27, 2012 04:45 PM (/WZ6r)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at February 27, 2012 04:45 PM (ZPrif)
I'm watching the Daytona 600 with some of my friends, four cats, and waiting for Santorum's car to win.
Posted by: Curiously Bi at February 27, 2012 04:46 PM (TkGkA)
Posted by: Bubba at February 27, 2012 08:43 PM (hXJOG)
I meant it metaphorically, of course. But have you seen more naked breasts anywhere else in this world?
Posted by: Ombudsman at February 27, 2012 04:46 PM (AxHOT)
What, did Danica hit a parked car?
She was on her cell phone
Posted by: Bubba at February 27, 2012 07:38 PM (hXJOG)
When did they include parallel parking in the Daytona 500?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 27, 2012 04:49 PM (Itxwp)
Posted by: rickl supports SMOD/Supervolcano 2012 at February 27, 2012 04:50 PM (sdi6R)
@#136 Jones in CO.
NONONONO! Come on...the Mayans promised. We can't hang on till 2040. It's not fair! The Mayans promised. Dec. 21-23 2012. I want what I was promised.
SMOD 2012!!!
Posted by: jem at February 27, 2012 04:50 PM (0oYHO)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at February 27, 2012 04:51 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Havedash at February 27, 2012 04:52 PM (JfvbF)
Posted by: nickless, outreaching and changing minds! at February 27, 2012 04:52 PM (MMC8r)
yeah if I could pick a way to go, it would be asteroid impact
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 27, 2012 04:52 PM (8sCoq)
Dat a long trip.
Posted by: Bubba at February 27, 2012 08:49 PM (hXJOG)
I'm betting most of the larger teams have secondary haulers that have the cars they are using at Phoenix already enroute. None of these cars will be used in next week's race. And they will start the drive to AZ tonight.
Posted by: buzzion at February 27, 2012 04:52 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: steevy at February 27, 2012 04:53 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: cherry π at February 27, 2012 04:53 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: Ombudsman at February 27, 2012 08:46 PM (AxHOT)
This is not to imply, of course, the quality of said breast. Very few high and firm specimens of womanhood volunteer. Mostly fat, sloppy, and around the knees. It is no surprise that the sloppier your breasts are, the more you like to share them with the public
Posted by: Ombudsman at February 27, 2012 04:54 PM (AxHOT)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at February 27, 2012 04:54 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Bubba at February 27, 2012 08:43 PM (hXJOG)
I meant it metaphorically, of course. But have you seen more naked breasts anywhere else in this world?
Posted by: Ombudsman at February 27, 2012 08:46 PM (AxHOT)
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Isn't that a good thing? Sounds dreamy to me. Note to self - schedule trip to Daytona 500 next year for boobbeh watch.
Posted by: Not an Artist at February 27, 2012 04:56 PM (Lo/3Q)
Come on SMOD! 2012!
Posted by: jem at February 27, 2012 04:57 PM (0oYHO)
73 Tami had to put her choco lab down today. See if y'all can giver her a passing good thought or a prayer, please.
thanks.
Posted by: jem at February 27, 2012 08:01 PM (0oYHO)
Poor pup. RIP. Poor Tami, too. Losing a beloved pup is terrible.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 27, 2012 04:58 PM (Itxwp)
Posted by: booger at February 27, 2012 04:59 PM (29wvc)
Posted by: Havedash at February 27, 2012 05:02 PM (JfvbF)
I dont know how it works
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 27, 2012 05:03 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Call me Ishmael at February 27, 2012 05:04 PM (Uh+y6)
Yes it is Jay, thanks for sending thoughts her way.
Posted by: jem at February 27, 2012 05:05 PM (0oYHO)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at February 27, 2012 05:05 PM (ZPrif)
Yeah, he's apparently got quite a few of those already.
Posted by: booger at February 27, 2012 05:06 PM (29wvc)
Posted by: Y-not on iphone at February 27, 2012 05:06 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: basket case nation at February 27, 2012 05:07 PM (kqbIK)
The good ole days, damn I miss em.
Posted by: Bubba at February 27, 2012 09:02 PM (hXJOG)
Ha..true Bubba! And most of the old guys were total hounds too. They could have taught those round ballers a thing or two, or at least taught them to wear rubbers.
Posted by: Havedash at February 27, 2012 05:08 PM (JfvbF)
Posted by: A droog at February 27, 2012 05:11 PM (FsqHK)
- Is it a competition?
- Can you tired playing it?
Thus auto racing, bowling, billiards, darts, etc are not sports.
Posted by: weew at February 27, 2012 05:13 PM (ElfHn)
I've tried liking NASCAR. Rednecks love it and liberals hate it, that's reason enough. I've even been to a couple races at Dover. But damn it, it's the most boring "sport" in the history of the universe. No wonder everyone there is drunk off their asses. The first 10 laps or so are exciting, then you just cross your fingers for a crash.
Posted by: yinzer at February 27, 2012 05:14 PM (LJ9nk)
Posted by: Havedash at February 27, 2012 05:14 PM (JfvbF)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 27, 2012 05:15 PM (UR5vq)
- Can you tired playing it?
-Does everybody get a trophy?
-Can you die while playing it?
Auto racing qualifies under my definition.
Posted by: NC Ref at February 27, 2012 05:16 PM (/izg2)
Posted by: Bubba at February 27, 2012 09:16 PM (hXJOG)
Heh. Yeah, strangely enough I love baseball. All about personal preference I guess.
Posted by: yinzer at February 27, 2012 05:17 PM (LJ9nk)
NASCAR needs to think about more Monday night races.
It's a great idea, BUT it won't fit into the schedule. They have to move everything and most teams race on Saturday and want to practice on Thursday or Friday.
They have to pack everything up tonight and start to AZ in the morning.
Dat a long trip.
Posted by: Bubba at February 27, 2012 08:49 PM (hXJOG)
I hear ya', Bubba. But, you could then move practice to Friday and Saturday. Maybe pull in a few more spectators to watch practices or whatever. Then have the race televised to a national audience on Monday Night. It's all pretty relative to simply move everything back one day. Over the summer, lots of folks are out doing things in the afternoons. This way, you can capture them on a Monday night.
Posted by: Brock O'bama at February 27, 2012 05:19 PM (/WZ6r)
Posted by: NBC at February 27, 2012 05:19 PM (FcR7P)
@192
My problem with auto (and horse) racing is that it's all about the gear, i.e., the auto or the horse. Put the "champion's" ass in/on an inferior auto or horse, and he loses every time. The most important factor in determining outcome is ... the gear. It's the arrow, not the Indian.
Contrast that with a real sport, where the champion's results do not depend critically on the gear, but on his skill and conditioning. Sure, he needs gear, but it doesn't determine the outcome. A champion baseball, football, basketball, or tennis player could probably be outfitted at Sports Authority and still do well.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 27, 2012 05:20 PM (Itxwp)
Posted by: booger at February 27, 2012 05:20 PM (29wvc)
Thus auto racing, bowling, billiards, darts, etc are not sports.
Maybe increase the weight of the bowling balls ten-fold.
Posted by: fluffy, chess 'athlete' at February 27, 2012 05:20 PM (4pSIn)
Posted by: NC Ref at February 27, 2012 05:20 PM (/izg2)
-Can you die while playing it?
Auto racing qualifies under my definition.
So running through the ghetto on a hot Friday night is a sport?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 27, 2012 05:21 PM (Itxwp)
Posted by: rdbrewer at February 27, 2012 05:21 PM (Iyg03)
Posted by: Havedash at February 27, 2012 05:21 PM (JfvbF)
-Does everybody get a trophy?
-Can you die while playing it?
You can die playing darts too. Those things are sharp.
Sorry, car racing is not a sport. It takes skill, guts, you can die... but its not a sport. The car is doing all the hard work.
Posted by: weew at February 27, 2012 05:22 PM (ElfHn)
Posted by: NC Ref at February 27, 2012 05:23 PM (/izg2)
- Is it a competition?
- Can you tired playing it?
Thus auto racing, bowling, billiards, darts, etc are not sports.
Posted by: weew at February 27, 2012 09:13 PM (ElfHn)
Well, I sure didn't understand that at all!
Auto racing is a sport.
Bowling is a sport.
Billiards is a sport.
Darts is a sport.
Many things are considered a sport that you may not agree is a sport.
Can you get tired OF participating in them? Sure.
Does that mean they are not a sport?
Are you trying to qualify that on "physically demanding"? If so, I think you might want to rethink all of that. ;-)
Posted by: jem at February 27, 2012 05:24 PM (0oYHO)
Two questions:
What is the "free pass" that Ryan Newman just got? I've heard the term before, but never quite got it. How much cash did Truex get for leading at the halfway point?
Posted by: Lincolntf at February 27, 2012 05:24 PM (HethX)
So running through the ghetto on a hot Friday nightis a sport?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 27, 2012 09:21 PM (Itxwp)
Do they hand out trophy's for that?
Posted by: Brock O'bama at February 27, 2012 05:24 PM (/WZ6r)
I didn't know that, but it'd explain why he's alwyas looked older than he actually is, got that Keith Richards look to him.
Posted by: booger at February 27, 2012 05:24 PM (29wvc)
You get tired doing it too. Yes, yes it is a sport.
Posted by: NC Ref at February 27, 2012 05:25 PM (/izg2)
Posted by: weew at February 27, 2012 09:25 PM (ElfHn)
The hell you say
Posted by: Vin Diesel at February 27, 2012 05:26 PM (/WZ6r)
I was trying to see a picture of Tony Stewart's team on the internet. Can't find one. Even the link that said "go to team website" was all about Tony Stewart. That surprised me. I expected to see a team picture, like a football team would put together.
Posted by: rdbrewer at February 27, 2012 05:26 PM (Iyg03)
Posted by: Five-day Cricket Test Matches at February 27, 2012 05:27 PM (FcR7P)
What is the "free pass" that Ryan Newman just got? I've heard the term before, but never quite got it. How much cash did Truex get for leading at the halfway point?
It means he had been lapped and got one of his laps back and $200,000
Posted by: booger at February 27, 2012 05:27 PM (29wvc)
If it's competitive, yes. Say two people begin from the same starting point to see who gets the farthest, then yes its a sport.
Posted by: weew at February 27, 2012 05:28 PM (ElfHn)
Posted by: Lincolntf at February 27, 2012 05:28 PM (HethX)
Posted by: Havedash at February 27, 2012 05:28 PM (JfvbF)
So running through the ghetto on a hot Friday night is a sport?
If it's competitive, yes. Say two people begin from the same starting point to see who gets the farthest, then yes its a sport.
Or if someone is chasing you. With a gun maybe. Then it's like hunting, and I guess that's a sport.
Posted by: yinzer at February 27, 2012 05:29 PM (LJ9nk)
Back in the day, when the caution flag came out, the re-start position was determined by the "race to the start/finish line" which led to some spectacular wrecks. So now computers determine exactly when the yellow flag comes out and the race order is frozen at that time. One more pussification of NASCAR. And $200k.
Posted by: NC Ref at February 27, 2012 05:29 PM (/izg2)
Back before those rust buckets real men would strap themselves on to 1200 pounds of horseflesh and whip 'em like they meant it.
Helmets? For bubblegum valves. Real men smeared themselves with horseshit an' that was alla protection they needed. And those things get mean sometimes and throw you from the saddle. An' if they were particularly hot-blooded they'd fuck you.
Yeah, that was a real sport.
Posted by: Jimmy Biff Bob[/i] at February 27, 2012 05:29 PM (9Hw3U)
Posted by: NC Ref at February 27, 2012 05:30 PM (/izg2)
Sorry, I'm with weew on this one.
Gymnastics is tough - I wouldn't want to do that shit, but a bit gay.
Figure skating, while definitely gay, takes a lot of conditioning, but then so does ballet. Both are really more performance arts than sports, IMO. I exclude things like figure skating because the "winner" is determined by a judge, like a beauty contest. Sports have judges (referees, umpires, whatever) who enforce the rules and thereby decide the outcome of individual events, but do not decide the outcome of the competition.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 27, 2012 05:30 PM (Itxwp)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at February 27, 2012 05:30 PM (ZPrif)
I've learned that listening to NASCAR on the radio is a trip. They seamlessly pass the calling duties between teams of broadcasters roosting along the course.
Posted by: Lincolntf at February 27, 2012 05:31 PM (HethX)
I don't remember all the rules, but it's basically that he was in first place of all the drivers that had been lapped.
Posted by: booger at February 27, 2012 05:33 PM (29wvc)
Posted by: CDR M at February 27, 2012 05:34 PM (QaYwz)
Posted by: weew at February 27, 2012 05:35 PM (ElfHn)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at February 27, 2012 05:35 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: eman at February 27, 2012 05:36 PM (qOpnH)
Posted by: toby928© Perrykrishna at February 27, 2012 05:36 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: NC Ref at February 27, 2012 05:36 PM (/izg2)
Posted by: steevy at February 27, 2012 05:36 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: weew at February 27, 2012 05:37 PM (ElfHn)
I had thought that Richard Petty was pulling people's legs by claiming to be from Level Cross, NC, but it's a real place.
Go Richard.
Posted by: fluffy at February 27, 2012 05:38 PM (4pSIn)
They have this. It's called bicycle racing. It's really big in Europe.
Posted by: NC Ref at February 27, 2012 05:39 PM (/izg2)
Posted by: Ernie McCracken at February 27, 2012 05:39 PM (ZETiK)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at February 27, 2012 05:39 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: CDR M at February 27, 2012 05:39 PM (QaYwz)
234 The main skill in racing is hand-eye coordination and reflexes.
Then let 'em hit 95 mph fastballs. That's much harder; sure, a racer closes on his target faster than fastball does on a hitter, but the track doesn't move, change speeds, curve, or lay awake nights figuring out how to screw up your timing.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 27, 2012 05:40 PM (Itxwp)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at February 27, 2012 05:41 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at February 27, 2012 05:42 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Ayatollah Ali Sistani at February 27, 2012 05:45 PM (FcR7P)
@210: "The car is doing all the hard work."
Re: your previous statement.
Sir:
We most cordially invite you to go fuck yourself.
Posted by: Pit Crews Everywhere at February 27, 2012 05:45 PM (FsqHK)
Posted by: weew at February 27, 2012 05:49 PM (ElfHn)
Posted by: John Kruk at February 27, 2012 05:50 PM (/WZ6r)
Posted by: booger at February 27, 2012 05:52 PM (29wvc)
all in all this race is turning out to be a minor clusterfuck
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 27, 2012 05:54 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: booger at February 27, 2012 05:54 PM (29wvc)
Posted by: Ernie McCracken at February 27, 2012 05:54 PM (ZETiK)
That's going to be hard to put out. It's going to damage the track.
Posted by: Havedash at February 27, 2012 05:54 PM (JfvbF)
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 27, 2012 05:55 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Michael at February 27, 2012 05:55 PM (2fJD1)
Posted by: CDR M at February 27, 2012 05:55 PM (QaYwz)
Posted by: Lincolntf at February 27, 2012 05:55 PM (HethX)
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 27, 2012 05:56 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 27, 2012 05:56 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Havedash at February 27, 2012 05:56 PM (JfvbF)
Posted by: L Rob in OK at February 27, 2012 05:57 PM (7yvLv)
@267: "I decline the invitation. Pit crews are just really fast mechanics. Not a sport."
Well, you'll be wanting Option 2, then. An airhammer up the ass. And we ain't askin'. To paraphrase the illustrious Queen Victoria and the Mountain Man from Deliverance - grab yer ankles, squeal like pig, and think of England.
Posted by: Pit Crews Everywhere at February 27, 2012 05:57 PM (FsqHK)
Posted by: dr. shatterhand at February 27, 2012 06:00 PM (9YbIf)
Posted by: Brock O'bama at February 27, 2012 06:00 PM (/WZ6r)
Posted by: L Rob in OK at February 27, 2012 06:02 PM (7yvLv)
Posted by: Havedash at February 27, 2012 06:03 PM (JfvbF)
Posted by: Conservative Phantom at February 27, 2012 06:03 PM (Ta+nq)
The pit crew tried to speed you up, but they just made you loose.
Posted by: toby928© at February 27, 2012 06:04 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: NASCAR at February 27, 2012 06:04 PM (rj+NH)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at February 27, 2012 06:04 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Waterhouse at February 27, 2012 06:06 PM (967iA)
Posted by: Brock O'bama at February 27, 2012 06:06 PM (/WZ6r)
Posted by: L Rob in OK at February 27, 2012 06:06 PM (7yvLv)
Yeah that's not a redneck thing to say at all. And it's still not a sport. Traffic. Auto mechanics. Car wrecks. Not a sport. Not athletes. Pit crews are the equivalent to caddies in golf. They help and advise the talent.
FWIW, by my measure, golf is not a sport either.
Posted by: weew at February 27, 2012 06:07 PM (ElfHn)
Just like baseball, fire always breaking out on the field.
Fire of course being the defining element of a sport. Who can forget when LA hosted the playoffs right after the cops were acquitted of beating Rodney King?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 27, 2012 06:07 PM (Itxwp)
Posted by: Y-not on iphone at February 27, 2012 06:07 PM (5H6zj)
Blaney has been in the cup division for a few years. Kind of a second stringer for various teams. He was a very good sprint car driver prior to this.
Posted by: L Rob in OK at February 27, 2012 06:08 PM (7yvLv)
Posted by: booger at February 27, 2012 06:08 PM (29wvc)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at February 27, 2012 06:08 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Ernie McCracken at February 27, 2012 06:09 PM (ZETiK)
Posted by: Mayhem at February 27, 2012 06:10 PM (QaYwz)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at February 27, 2012 06:10 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: L Rob in OK at February 27, 2012 06:11 PM (7yvLv)
Racing drivers don't get tired? That'd probably be news to all of them.
Night watchmen, construction workers, and toll collectors at bridges get tired too.
FWIW, by my measure, golf is not a sport either.
I'd say golf is a wobbler, but things such as darts and bowling are really more activities than sports. Golf can go either way. To those who would dispute that, I would ask how miniature golf differs fundamentally from golf.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 27, 2012 06:11 PM (Itxwp)
Posted by: CDR M at February 27, 2012 06:11 PM (QaYwz)
Not "safety" per say... track drying/blower trucks with jet engines for removing debris/water from the road surfaces.
Posted by: NASCAR at February 27, 2012 06:11 PM (rj+NH)
That was the fuckhead's definition of a sport, not mine.
Posted by: Waterhouse at February 27, 2012 06:12 PM (967iA)
It might be interesting to watch them try to pick the truck up with a lift. Thirty degree banking + a couple of tons of steel. What could go wrong? Where's the mayhem guy?
Posted by: L Rob in OK at February 27, 2012 06:13 PM (7yvLv)
You don't have to walk four miles carrying a bag of equipment.
Posted by: NC Ref at February 27, 2012 06:13 PM (/izg2)
Posted by: CDR M at February 27, 2012 06:13 PM (QaYwz)
Posted by: L Rob in OK at February 27, 2012 06:15 PM (7yvLv)
Posted by: NC Ref at February 27, 2012 06:16 PM (/izg2)
Posted by: booger at February 27, 2012 06:17 PM (29wvc)
Posted by: L Rob in OK at February 27, 2012 06:17 PM (7yvLv)
Posted by: Retread at February 27, 2012 06:18 PM (joSBv)
Posted by: Havedash at February 27, 2012 06:18 PM (JfvbF)
Posted by: CDR M at February 27, 2012 06:18 PM (QaYwz)
Posted by: NC Ref at February 27, 2012 10:13 PM (/izg2)
Niether do profesional golfers
And since when does NASCAR use Iron Maiden music?
Posted by: buzzion at February 27, 2012 06:18 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: weew at February 27, 2012 06:18 PM (ElfHn)
Go to Taladega. The infield pre-race is like Caligula is running the joint. Don't get me wrong, I love the naked, shapely female form, but... as the father of a teenage daughter.. I wanted to wade into this al fresco orgy with an axe.
Posted by: Ombudsman
You're about 15 years late with that comment.
In the 90's Talledega's infeild was a circus with rolling sex shows in pickup beds and more drunks than sober people. Then they banned driving around during the race. The next year they started fining nudity, I heard that it was big $ to show a titty which of course pissed off all the redneck bus campers who had "Show us your titties" and "Free mustache rides here" signs. Then they banned driving U-Haul rentals and we said enough and stopped going.
Talledega is nothing like it was back then and I have pictures.
Posted by: Gmac at February 27, 2012 06:18 PM (dRGO2)
You don't have to walk four miles carrying a bag of equipment.
Wow. Walking four whole miles, at a blistering snail's pace. And with a bag of equipment, too!
OK, I'll go this far then: the caddies are athletes. What about the guy dressed like a pimp who hits the ball, then hands his club to the flunky who carries it and the other clubs?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 27, 2012 06:19 PM (Itxwp)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at February 27, 2012 06:19 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 27, 2012 06:19 PM (8sCoq)
Now where was I trolling? I'm merely saying that racing is not a sport and stating my case. You're the one getting all nasty and butthurt about it.
Posted by: weew at February 27, 2012 06:20 PM (ElfHn)
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 27, 2012 06:20 PM (8sCoq)
I can't rememebr what lap they're on, but it seems like they had a race go to midnight lat year if i remember right.
Posted by: booger at February 27, 2012 06:21 PM (29wvc)
Posted by: CDR M at February 27, 2012 06:23 PM (QaYwz)
With 160 of 200 laps complete and alot of work to clean up the track it seems likely they'll call it a race.
And where is the EPA over that fuel spill?
Posted by: Retread at February 27, 2012 06:23 PM (joSBv)
In true amateur competitions they do.
BFD. Walking a few miles - over many hours - with a bag that weighs what, 20 lbs., tops?
It's not exactly triathalon stuff, is it? Do golfers train hard to make that four mile walk? If so, how? Opening the refigerator door? Changing channels? Half the golfers I've seen can shower without getting their feet wet.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 27, 2012 06:24 PM (Itxwp)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at February 27, 2012 06:24 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: CDR M at February 27, 2012 10:23 PM (QaYwz)
reminds me of the demolition derbies at the fairgrounds Dad would take us to when we were kids
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 27, 2012 06:25 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at February 27, 2012 10:24 PM (ZPrif)
yeah there's always one dick who has to make himself stand out by any means possible
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 27, 2012 06:26 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Nic Cage at February 27, 2012 06:28 PM (rj+NH)
Posted by: Havedash at February 27, 2012 06:28 PM (JfvbF)
Saying NASCAR is not a sport is not trolling. You're all butthurt because to you, saying it isn't a sport is somehow a grave insult and you call me a troll for saying it. Heaven knows a thread about a traffic race needs a little spice to liven it up.
Posted by: weew at February 27, 2012 06:29 PM (ElfHn)
Posted by: weew at February 27, 2012 10:29 PM (ElfHn)
you're probably the guy who watches porn and remarks, 'what's so great about fucking?'
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 27, 2012 06:31 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 27, 2012 06:32 PM (8sCoq)
And they most likely suck at it because they're not in good shape. Just because all your friends are slothenly cart riders doesn't mean it doesn't take real athletic skills to be competitive.
Posted by: NC Ref at February 27, 2012 06:32 PM (/izg2)
By sneering at it, repeatedly, on a thread for fans. But no, you're not trolling!
To repeat, you ignorant trolling dumbfuck, your definition fails, because drivers do get tired, because driving a race car is physically taxing.
Now go get your fucking shinebox, limpdick.
Posted by: Waterhouse at February 27, 2012 06:33 PM (967iA)
You equate NASCAR with porn? Dayum, I underestimate how much some folks love racing.
Posted by: weew at February 27, 2012 06:35 PM (ElfHn)
See, I never got nasty. I merely made conversation. Look at how angry you are. just because you got disproportionally mad over something whimsical and trivial, you call me a troll. I call you a reactionary, oversensitive prick with redneck anger issues. I'll go get my shinebox, you go on living up to the very stereotype liberals have of conservatives.
Posted by: weew at February 27, 2012 06:39 PM (ElfHn)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at February 27, 2012 06:39 PM (ZPrif)
And they most likely suck at it because they're not in good shape. Just because all your friends are slothenly cart riders doesn't mean it doesn't take real athletic skills to be competitive.
I was referring to paunchy pros on TV. Let's face it, golf does not require significant conditioning. It's just not that demanding physically. Weeding is more demanding physically.
I read somewhere that Tiger Woods started a trend by actually working out, something that apparently was unheard of before he came on the scene. If it's true, that's gotta tell ya something.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 27, 2012 06:41 PM (Itxwp)
Posted by: NC Ref at February 27, 2012 06:43 PM (/izg2)
Having crapped on golf, let me rehabilitate it a bit. I'd say golf demands iron nerves, to stay consistently relaxed enough in pressure situations to execute a smooth, fluid swing, with just the right amount of force, and not yank the club. That's got to be hard.
Sturdy psychology? You bet. Great conditioning? Not so much.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 27, 2012 06:44 PM (Itxwp)
Posted by: NC Ref at February 27, 2012 06:44 PM (/izg2)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at February 27, 2012 06:44 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at February 27, 2012 06:47 PM (ZPrif)
If you're sucking wind after four hours of walking in 90 degree heat, you're not going to be able to do any of this.
Posted by: NC Ref at February 27, 2012 06:47 PM (/izg2)
Sturdy psychology? You bet. Great conditioning? Not so much.
I agree that racing requires great skill, iron nerves, commitment, and courage... plus the high likelihood of great physical harm or death. it takes giant balls and I sure as hell couldn't do it.
But it's still not a sport. Get all rednecky-butthurt and call me a troll if you will, but it's still a guy driving a car.
Posted by: weew at February 27, 2012 06:48 PM (ElfHn)
Posted by: booger at February 27, 2012 06:51 PM (29wvc)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at February 27, 2012 06:51 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at February 27, 2012 06:54 PM (ZPrif)
If you're sucking wind after four hours of walking in 90 degree heat, you're not going to be able to do any of this.
Kinda like Hell Week then, at football camp? Or throwing strikes in the ninth inning of a complete game in August?
Walking ain't shit. If you're sucking wind after walking four hours, 90 degree heat or no, you're in piss poor shape. Hell, I played a week's worth of doubleheaders as an outfielder in a baseball (not softball) tournament in AZ last year (temps mid to upper 90s), and I'm in my 60s.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 27, 2012 06:59 PM (Itxwp)
Posted by: NC Ref at February 27, 2012 07:01 PM (/izg2)
Posted by: Conservative Phantom at February 27, 2012 07:13 PM (3pmUZ)
Kinda like Hell Week then, at football camp? Or throwing strikes in the ninth inning of a complete game in August?
Walking ain't shit. If you're sucking wind after walking four hours, 90 degree heat or no, you're in piss poor shape. Hell, I played a week's worth of doubleheaders as an outfielder in a baseball (not softball) tournament in AZ last year (tempsmid to upper 90s), and I'm in my 60s.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 27, 2012 10:59 PM (Itxwp)
Yeah, but that's mid-70s temp everywhere else in the country - dry heat and all...
Posted by: Brock O'bama at February 27, 2012 07:19 PM (/WZ6r)
Posted by: Conservative Phantom at February 27, 2012 07:25 PM (3pmUZ)
Posted by: Retread at February 27, 2012 07:27 PM (joSBv)
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