August 22, 2012

Democratic National Convention Going Anti-Akin; To Become Celebration of Abortion
— Ace

Well, that's the tendentious reading of the Washington Examiner, but it does seem like a fair characterization.

Democrats said that they will feature Cecile Richards, president of the Planned Parent Action Fund, Nancy Keenan, president of the NARAL Pro-Choice America and Sandra Fluke, the Georgetown University student whose plea for federal birth control funding drew the ire--and a subsequent apology--from Rush Limbaugh.

What's more, the Democrats are expanding their list of women ready to assail the GOP on women's issue, adding Maryland Sen. Barbara Mikulski and actress Eva Longoria to the list that already includes Sen. John Kerry and Massachusetts Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren.

Bless their hearts. (Second chart especially.) It's hard to know which way the abortion issue cuts because you'll have a majority saying they're pro-life but also a majority saying they think abortion should be legal in certain circumstances. Either way, a majority at least gesturally identifies as pro-life; this is not the political dynamite Democrats seem to believe it is.

In one of the dumbest stories I've ever read -- dumb question, dumb answer -- Paul Ryan refuses to define "forcible rape." Which is an idiotic question to ask -- everyone knows what forcible rape is. Forcible rape is distinguished from statutory rape, which is illegal and considered rape due to the youthful age of the victim, and yet is nevertheless consensual. Statutory rape is so-called because the statute defines it as rape, even though a witness would not see the characteristics of what "rape" is usually taken to be -- i.e., force, coercion.

So why is Paul Ryan badgered on the meaning of a word which has had the same definition for 150+ years? Just so the media can get video of him saying "Rape."

"Forcible rape" is a common term in law. This is not some newfangled Xtianist make-'em-up. If you google forcible rape you'll see, I don't know, 20 million hits at least, I'd guess.

And what I don't understand is why Paul Ryan doesn't just answer. I guess maybe because he doesn't want to get into line drawing, like "I might not oppose abortion in the case of forcible rape but I wouldn't in the case of statutory rape," and I guess that's because the American public is stupid and has no idea what common terms mean.

Here's an Odd Fact: As far as sex-crimes go, there's actually another category.

What if the woman actually consents, but she only consents due to fraud or trickery? There actually are such cases; for example, doctors have told women that in order to examine them they'd have to probe them with their penises (no, this really happened; there are cases in the books).

There are lots of varieties of rape-by-trickery, including slipping into a woman's bed, counting on her to mistake you for her husband. (This really happens.)

In earlier days, proffering an offer of marriage just to induce a woman to sleep with you, with no intent of actually carrying through, was also a crime of this type.

Anyway, there is actually an old common-law crime for this sort of rape, but they didn't call it rape. In the common law, until about 50 years ago, when people started realizing this sounded wrong, they called this crime "Seduction."

No, seriously. Look it up.

Frank Sinatra was charged with it:

n more modern times, Frank Sinatra was charged in New Jersey in 1938 with seduction, having enticed a woman "of good repute to engage in sexual intercourse with him upon his promise of marriage. The charges were dropped when it was discovered that the woman was already married."[6]

Anyway, apparently the media now has its stupid hat on and is going to ask Paul Ryan to define words whose meanings are quite clear, just so they can get him on tape talking about rape.


Posted by: Ace at 11:30 AM | Comments (462)
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1 Let them run with it.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 22, 2012 11:31 AM (G/zuv)

2 This fight drives me crazy !  STOP getting baited into this

Posted by: The Jackhole at August 22, 2012 11:31 AM (nTgAI)

3 oh, and... Democrat Rapist David Wu is The Face of The Democrat Party

Posted by: soothsayer at August 22, 2012 11:31 AM (G/zuv)

4 Dear DNC,

8.3%. So yes, please discuss abortion.

That is all.

Posted by: laceyunderalls postin' and runnin' at August 22, 2012 11:32 AM (pLTLS)

5 Let them run with it.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 22, 2012 03:31 PM (G/zuv)

 

Let them run with it I agree, just don't get sucked in. It's like a Moth to the flame for a segment of conservatives.

Posted by: The Jackhole at August 22, 2012 11:32 AM (nTgAI)

6 Keynote speaker - Sandy Fluke!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 22, 2012 11:32 AM (1Jaio)

7 Gesturally but not gestationally.

Posted by: Average Joe at August 22, 2012 11:33 AM (bN5ZU)

8 I think Ryan is a Catholic Catholic not a catholic catholic.

Posted by: madamex at August 22, 2012 11:33 AM (Unx03)

9 But mostly because anything he would say would be wrong, at least according to the MSM.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 22, 2012 11:33 AM (RD7QR)

10 I like Ryan's answer. Neutral nothing to make hay of. No room for a seemingly innocuous follow up.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 11:33 AM (LRFds)

11 I like Ryan's answer. Neutral nothing to make hay of. No room for a seemingly innocuous follow up.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 03:33 PM (LRFds)

 

This

Posted by: The Jackhole at August 22, 2012 11:33 AM (nTgAI)

12 This might be the watershed election we have been waiting all of our lives for.

Where both side put it all on the line and let the chips fall where they may.


Interesting development.

Posted by: General Woundwort at August 22, 2012 11:33 AM (06lNq)

13 Rape-a-palooza!

Posted by: nickless at August 22, 2012 11:33 AM (MMC8r)

14 Which would screw up the Dem messaging the most: Akin dropping out the day before the Dem convention, during the convention, or the day after?

Posted by: Jon at August 22, 2012 11:34 AM (Onq3t)

15 Devil Patrick will speak and he tried to get a rapist out of jail.

Posted by: madamex at August 22, 2012 11:34 AM (Unx03)

16 And what I don't understand is why Paul Ryan doesn't just answer. Paul Ryan should decide what Paul Ryan talks about. Not have the media decide, edit, twist and lie about later - control the narrative and the lies of the day.

Posted by: Ryan Is. at August 22, 2012 11:34 AM (IPhbB)

17 Ryan's Answer = FYNQ, BYH style.

Posted by: Hagbard Celine at August 22, 2012 11:34 AM (+/VIS)

18 Rape is an ugly topic. And people today have little attention span for abortion rants. The Democrats are hurting themselves by doing this. Let them.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 22, 2012 11:34 AM (G/zuv)

19 All Republicans should say is, I'm pro-life, now about that ridiculously high unemployment...

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 22, 2012 11:34 AM (1Jaio)

20 Romney Ryan 2012: Saving Medicare because the other side keeps aborting potential payers

Posted by: The Q at August 22, 2012 11:35 AM (B/yDO)

21 "I recognize the legal definitions of those terms."


Is that so hard?


Posted by: Dang at August 22, 2012 11:35 AM (Ky1+e)

22 Make 2012 the year that the Democrats ran on social issues... and lost.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 22, 2012 11:35 AM (G/zuv)

23 Celebrate dead babies!  Bless their hearts.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 22, 2012 11:35 AM (UOM48)

24 I also love how John F'n Kerry is grouped in with the women. So appropriate

Posted by: The Q at August 22, 2012 11:35 AM (B/yDO)

25 Democrats will reduce rape 2% in return for raising the debt limit to $50T, otherwise you're a h8r.

Posted by: nickless at August 22, 2012 11:36 AM (MMC8r)

26 All Republicans should say is, I'm pro-life, now about that ridiculously high unemployment...
Posted by: TheQuietMan


Okay,  I like your reply better.

Posted by: Dang at August 22, 2012 11:36 AM (Ky1+e)

27 "...google forcible rape..." There are some things I'm just not going to google from the office-- I'll take your word for it Ace.

Posted by: MMW at August 22, 2012 11:36 AM (kt/h1)

28 "...and I guess that's because the American public is stupid and has no idea what common terms mean."

And you'd be correct. The Democrats would just loooove to get in the weeds on the semantics of rape squirrel rather than the real issues of the day.

It's A Trap.™

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 22, 2012 11:36 AM (eHIJJ)

29 Like I said in an earlier thread, abortion comes in dead last when likely voters are asked about what issues are most important.  Please, please, please make the convention all about it.

Posted by: Adam at August 22, 2012 11:36 AM (/YJYi)

30 I guess we'll see when the first polls come out after the DNC, huh.

I mean, poll accurately portray the way people are going to actually vote in a presidential election, don't they?

Posted by: © Sponge at August 22, 2012 11:36 AM (UK9cE)

31 Abort jobs!

Posted by: nickless at August 22, 2012 11:36 AM (MMC8r)

32

Sandra Fluke is going to be speaking. 

They'll probably  all get crabs. 

Posted by: garrett at August 22, 2012 11:37 AM (dZMkH)

33 Great strategy Dems.  What if Akin's bone headed comment turns out to be pure genious?  Partial-term abortions and public financing of abortions have a  lot of support.

Posted by: SH at August 22, 2012 11:37 AM (gmeXX)

34 1 Let them run with it. Posted by: soothsayer at August 22, 2012 03:31 PM (G/zuv) ____________________ I agree. Let them waste their time on that crap. The unemployed, and others worried about the economy will get the message--Obama has Zero.

Posted by: tasker at August 22, 2012 11:37 AM (r2PLg)

35 Ace said: "It's hard to know which way the abortion issue cuts"

I think it hurts whichever party is perceived by indies as making it an issue. 

Posted by: Jon at August 22, 2012 11:37 AM (Onq3t)

36 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2012 11:37 AM (6o4Fb)

37 I was once a fetus.

Posted by: Dang at August 22, 2012 11:37 AM (Ky1+e)

38 "And what I don't understand is why Paul Ryan doesn't just answer. I guess maybe because he doesn't want to get into line drawing, like "I might not oppose abortion in the case of forcible rape but I wouldn't in the case of statutory rape," and I guess that's because the American public is stupid and has no idea what common terms mean."

Yes because answering that questions breaks down so many intellectually significant philosophical barriers, fills the dearth of significant questions for voters and focuses on the real issues of our election.

Honestly Ace. What the fook are you talking about? Do you have fever from the West Nile virus or something or are you simply happy eating the peanuts out of Democrats shit?

Posted by: Exile at August 22, 2012 11:37 AM (GGCsk)

39 "Please, please, please make the convention all about it. Posted by: Adam at August 22, 2012 03:36 PM (/YJYi)" Can you imagine, all they got is killing kids.

Posted by: madamex at August 22, 2012 11:37 AM (Unx03)

40 They really want to make their entire convention about abortion? With 8.3% unemployment, soaring gas and grocery prices, they really think THIS is was America is concerned about? ROFL!

Ummmm, okay, then, let us know how that works our for you, bless your hearts...

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at August 22, 2012 11:37 AM (bzgVW)

41 Aborted babies left to die in closets.  Win!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 22, 2012 11:37 AM (UOM48)

42 No he didn't want to answer for the simple fact that Republicans are held to a ridiculously high standard.

If he didn't display a masters level of expertise and articulation in law, science, and biology his statements would be used against him.

It's as simple as that.

Posted by: General Woundwort at August 22, 2012 11:37 AM (06lNq)

43 Celebrate with us.........our culture of death.

Posted by: The DNC at August 22, 2012 11:38 AM (5qa+L)

44 14 Which would screw up the Dem messaging the most: Akin dropping out the day before the Dem convention, during the convention, or the day after?

Posted by: Jon at August 22, 2012 03:34 PM (Onq3t)


The day before, they have no time to realign their narrative.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at August 22, 2012 11:38 AM (AWmfW)

45 bless their hearts, they think grandma wants to pay for sissy's abortion!

Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2012 11:38 AM (Dnbau)

46
So, they're going to conduct their convention atop a mountain of dead babies? Nice...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 22, 2012 11:38 AM (7GfKM)

47

hey little ewok.

you want to go for a swim?

Posted by: hornyfemaledolphin at August 22, 2012 11:38 AM (dZMkH)

48 Who told the Dems Fluke is a plus for them?Nevermind,let them keep putting her out there.

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2012 11:38 AM (6o4Fb)

49 There are lots of varieties of rape-by-trickery, including slipping into a woman's bed, counting on her to mistake you for her husband. (This really happens.)

Where?  In opera?

Posted by: AmishDude at August 22, 2012 11:38 AM (T0NGe)

50 and I guess that's because the American public is stupid and has no idea what common terms mean.

You're welcome. Now give us a raise.

Posted by: American Educators Union at August 22, 2012 11:38 AM (/kI1Q)

51 Sandy Fluke and the Dem convention. Damn her contraception costs are going to go through the roof. Just on Slick Willie alone

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 22, 2012 11:38 AM (1Jaio)

52 Let's see: Cecile Richards Nancy Keenan Sandra Fluke Barbara Mikulski Eva Longoria John Kerry* Elizabeth Warren *whipped

Posted by: where's waldo at August 22, 2012 11:38 AM (IPhbB)

53 At the end of the day, all this blather by Democrats about abortions isn't gonna put one goddamm drop of gasoline in my gas tank. End. Of. Discussion.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 22, 2012 11:38 AM (G/zuv)

54 33
Sandra Fluke is going to be speaking.


That's right, but that's not all I'll be doing.  I also have glory hole duty on the nights I'm not speaking.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at August 22, 2012 11:38 AM (/YJYi)

55 I wonder how long the media would keep asking them about rape if they mentioned Bill Clinton every time it's asked.

Posted by: Republican at August 22, 2012 11:39 AM (/AHDz)

56

They think a pro-abortion themed convention will help them in November?

Bless their hearts.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 22, 2012 11:39 AM (KwMW2)

57 Can we charge the Obama administration with "forcible rape" of the American economy?

Posted by: © Sponge at August 22, 2012 11:39 AM (UK9cE)

58 Yeah, apparently dems are under the impression that most voters that are pro-choice come to that position with great enthusiasm. They don't. That's why people like to use clinton's "safe, legal, and rare" line yet today. It's how the sane pro-choice people think about this. You know, the ones that aren't entirely in the fold. Humble and understated polls well. Celebrating exterminating fetus's doesn't. So let them have their big show over this and let the crowd erupt with glee. This is the best development since the weekend.

Posted by: Dave S. at August 22, 2012 11:39 AM (QbKVX)

59 Don't punish women with a baby. Punish them with unemployment!

Posted by: nickless at August 22, 2012 11:39 AM (MMC8r)

60 "Less babies in the future means more jobs for us tomorrow!"

Posted by: Democrats 2012 at August 22, 2012 11:39 AM (Ky1+e)

61 What's Charles Manson doing that weekend?

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 22, 2012 11:39 AM (i330i)

62 I hope we can all collectively bless Harry Reid's cold, dark heart on election day.

Posted by: Schnack at August 22, 2012 11:39 AM (+EXSF)

63 I wonder how this is going to affect the SWAG Bags?

Posted by: garrett at August 22, 2012 11:39 AM (dZMkH)

64 "Those babies aren't gonna kill themselves!"

Posted by: Democrats 2012 at August 22, 2012 11:39 AM (Ky1+e)

65 18 Rape is an ugly topic. And people today have little attention span for abortion rants. The Democrats are hurting themselves by doing this. Let them. Posted by: soothsayer at August 22, 2012 03:34 PM (G/zuv) __________________ The saying is- "people vote with their wallets." (and no--that isn't a euphemism for vaginas.)

Posted by: tasker at August 22, 2012 11:39 AM (r2PLg)

66

Make 2012 the year that the Republicans hammered home:

 

UNEMPLOYMENT and THE ECONOMY

 

Everything else is okay ... as a reason to highlight

 

UNEMPLOYMENT and THE ECONOMY

 

Teh JEF is just Biden his time, Akin for the Republicans to go off the

 

UNEMPLOYMENT and THE ECONOMY

 

mesage.  Spend a lot of time On-Message, no reason to spend 2013 Akin from an off-message loss...

Posted by: Arbalest at August 22, 2012 11:40 AM (QmKg2)

67

Ryan is being smart.... do NOT let the MSM pull you into this story, at all...

 

Yes, they will try.... but people will laugh at the MEDIA for it...

 

The Left is going to try to make this Election about Social Issues.... because they cannot run on Fiscal Policy, Foreign Policy, or their record...

 

DON'T fall into the trap.... let them Spew... because the electorate knows what this election is really about.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 22, 2012 11:40 AM (lZBBB)

68 If I'm not mistaken, there is a rapist delivering the keynote speech at the democrat convention.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 22, 2012 11:40 AM (KwMW2)

69 "Put Americans to work - killing babies!

Posted by: Democrats 2012 at August 22, 2012 11:40 AM (Ky1+e)

70 Winter is coming. Heating oil won't be paid for by Sandra fucking Fluke or Planned Abortionhood. Next question.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 22, 2012 11:40 AM (G/zuv)

71
Come to Charlotte for the 'que! Stay for the abort-a-palooza!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 22, 2012 11:40 AM (7GfKM)

72 (and no--that isn't a euphemism for vaginas.)  Posted by: tasker at August 22, 2012 03:39 PM (r2PLg)

It is in my house.

Of course, Mrs. Bannion is not amused...

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 22, 2012 11:40 AM (sbV1u)

73 He just isn't falling for the MSM's dirty tricks.  Good for Ryan.  Stay on course, stay on message.

Posted by: jewells45 at August 22, 2012 11:41 AM (l/N7H)

74 Death is a growth industry!

Posted by: nickless at August 22, 2012 11:41 AM (MMC8r)

75 91 I am weirdly optimistic. Fuck em. If asked about Akin, tell them about the JEF saying its ok to let a baby die in a closet. Asked about the no rape exception in the party platform, tell them about the progs embrace of partial birth abortion. Asked about the unfairness to woman, talk about requiring religious institutions to violate their teachings and pay for abortion on demand or have the taxpayer do it. Turn it back on them, like the Mediscare argument Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2012 02:06 PM (Dnbau)

Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2012 11:41 AM (Dnbau)

76 In Law School I seem to remember harridan Susan Estrich advocating for the recognition of "second" and "third" degree rape for (if I recall) sex by deception where, for example, man represents himself to be a wealthy European Count or professional athlete and woman has sex with him on the basis of that representation.  Look it up.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at August 22, 2012 11:41 AM (mg08E)

77 "Every baby killed is another dollar in your welfare check!"

Posted by: Democrats 2012 at August 22, 2012 11:41 AM (Ky1+e)

78 What is most irritating about this whole thing us that liberals do lie about rape to push abortion. Roe? Claimed to have been raped, but wasn't. It's really, really insulting to actual rape victims. Of course, liberals dont give a crap about the actual people involved, they just have to uphold their most Holy of sacraments, regardless of truth. So yeah, all that said, Republicans shouldn't play ball with "hard cases". Ryan's response was fine. FYNQ.

Posted by: Lauren at August 22, 2012 11:41 AM (wsGWu)

79 Fine, let the dems talk about the squirrel while Romney and Ryan talk about the economy and Medicare.

Posted by: huerfano at August 22, 2012 11:41 AM (bAGA/)

80 Are these nine women gonna get drunk and eat some babies alive? Kind of like some pagan Dionysian rite?

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 22, 2012 11:41 AM (i330i)

81 Abort the unemployed!

Posted by: nickless at August 22, 2012 11:41 AM (MMC8r)

82 Winter is coming. Heating oil won't be paid for by Sandra fucking Fluke or Planned Abortionhood.

Next question.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 22, 2012 03:40 PM (G/zuv)



Peggy Joseph: That's okay, Barry pays mine

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 22, 2012 11:41 AM (1Jaio)

83 "Die,  baby,  Die!"

Posted by: Democrats 2012 at August 22, 2012 11:42 AM (Ky1+e)

84

Nothing highlights are out-of-control spending better than an organization that wants public financing for abortion.  Well-played Dems.

Posted by: SH at August 22, 2012 11:42 AM (gmeXX)

85 The saying is- "people vote with their wallets."

(and no--that isn't a euphemism for vaginas.)

Posted by: tasker at August 22, 2012 03:39 PM (r2PLg)

 

This has proved to be true over and over. My worry is that people have adjusted to this shitty situation the economy is in dems have been pretty good at not letting it be an issue, cons: POUND THIS ISSUE !

Posted by: The Jackhole at August 22, 2012 11:42 AM (nTgAI)

86 69 If I'm not mistaken, there is a rapist delivering the keynote speech at the democrat convention.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 22, 2012 03:40 PM (KwMW2




OMG.  You're right.  That Slick Willy, bless his black heart.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 22, 2012 11:42 AM (UOM48)

87
60 So let them have their big show over this and let the crowd erupt with glee. This is the best development since the weekend.
Posted by: Dave S. at August 22, 2012 03:39 PM (QbKVX)


Paul Wellstone Memorial II: The Abortening!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 22, 2012 11:42 AM (7GfKM)

88

Fuck the media.

Posted by: Z Ryan at August 22, 2012 11:43 AM (YvuFk)

89

unfettered abortion on demand and gay rights is really all they have. As I Californian I know that Democrats try to win every election on these two issues.  $16T in debt is irrelevant.  Government corrpution doesn't matter.  A regulatory climate that is hostile to business isnt worth discussing.  All that matters is Repubs are woman and gay haters. 

 Problem is, people are so stupid they actually believe this crap.  For example,  after Sandra Fluke's testimony,  I kept hearing that Republicans wanted to outlaw birthcontrol.  I had to point out to so many people that I don't object to their birth control until they ask me to pay for it!

Posted by: california red at August 22, 2012 11:43 AM (KaUAN)

90 Types of Rape

Date Rape
Gang Rape
Spousal Rape
Rape of Children
Statutory Rape
Prison Rape
War Rape
Rape by Deception
Corrective Rape

All of these fall under forcible rape, how many people knew there were this many classifications?

Do you think the average person who is not a lawyer would?

Posted by: General Woundwort at August 22, 2012 11:43 AM (06lNq)

91 I think we ought to dig up Professor Peter Singer of Princeton and get his opinion on abortion.  That should be fun.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 22, 2012 11:43 AM (T0NGe)

92
Republicans - "Drill, baby, drill!"

Democrats - "Die, baby, die!"

Posted by: Dang at August 22, 2012 11:43 AM (Ky1+e)

93 78 In Law School I seem to remember harridan Susan Estrich advocating for the recognition of "second" and "third" degree rape for (if I recall) sex by deception where, for example, man represents himself to be a wealthy European Count or professional athlete and woman has sex with him on the basis of that representation. Look it up.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at August 22, 2012 03:41 PM (mg08E)


So basically she wanted to outlaw sex for boring white guys?

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 22, 2012 11:43 AM (RD7QR)

94 A few years ago there was a story in the NY tabloids about a guy who looked vaguely like Joba Chamberlain running through dozens of chicks by pretending to be Joba.

Rape?

Posted by: The Q at August 22, 2012 11:43 AM (B/yDO)

95 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2012 03:37 PM (6o4Fb)

 

Let Steevy be an example to be followed. Pound the issue of the economy like he pounds SCOAMF !

Posted by: The Jackhole at August 22, 2012 11:44 AM (nTgAI)

96 The day before, they have no time to realign their narrative.

Hell, they were still pounding that Politico-pushed skinny dipping thing as late as today.  They are not nimble, that journolist crowd.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 22, 2012 11:44 AM (T0NGe)

97 Types of Rape Date Rape Gang Rape Spousal Rape Rape of Children Statutory Rape Prison Rape War Rape Rape by Deception Corrective Rape Also: Raped Ape

Posted by: soothsayer at August 22, 2012 11:44 AM (G/zuv)

98 So, they are going full out racist, then?

Posted by: disproportionate black abortions at August 22, 2012 11:44 AM (IPhbB)

99 Types of Rape

Date Rape
Gang Rape
Spousal Rape
Rape of Children
Statutory Rape
Prison Rape
War Rape
Rape by Deception
Corrective Rape

All of these fall under forcible rape, how many people knew there were this many classifications?

Do you think the average person who is not a lawyer would? Posted by: General Woundwort


You forgot the rape rape.

Posted by: Whoopi Goldberg at August 22, 2012 11:44 AM (Ky1+e)

100 96 Winning!

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2012 11:45 AM (6o4Fb)

101

Regarding the common law  that Ace referenced.  There was   a  lot of genius in the common law.  It  didn't address everything, but it addressed the big things.  And it adapted and changed with the times  and with culture. 

 

Thankfully we have replaced that with statutory law and even better administrative law.  It has finally led to someone successfully arguing that they did  everything the  law  required  because they reported child rape to their  "superiors"  per administrative regulations.

Posted by: SH at August 22, 2012 11:45 AM (gmeXX)

102 67 Make 2012 the year that the Republicans hammered home:

UNEMPLOYMENT and THE ECONOMY

Everything else is okay ... as a reason to highlight

UNEMPLOYMENT and THE ECONOMY

Teh JEF is just Biden his time, Akin for the Republicans to go off the

UNEMPLOYMENT and THE ECONOMY

mesage. Spend a lot of time On-Message, no reason to spend 2013 Akin from an off-message loss...



AtC?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 22, 2012 11:45 AM (da5Wo)

103

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 22, 2012 03:40 PM (KwMW2)

 

This.  Every time Bubba is mentioned, they need to remind people that he's been, '... accused of multiple sexual assaults and of  rape - acquitted on most of those charges.'. 

Posted by: garrett at August 22, 2012 11:45 AM (dZMkH)

104 This will not end well for the Democrats.

See Memorial, Wellstone.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 22, 2012 11:45 AM (Suq+u)

105 It's over for the GOP. At their convention, the Democrats are going to project images of fetuses on a Jumbotron and America will laugh with them as Obama explains how they are not really human. Then Rosanne Barr will bring the house down with tales of her fifteen abortions. And Scott Peterson will appear by remote video explaining how he is about to be executed for "killing" a clump of cells. This November, I will reluctantly terminate my unborn vote.

Posted by: Average Joe at August 22, 2012 11:45 AM (bN5ZU)

106 The GOP's War on teh Wimmenz will be countered with the Dems' War on the Fetus.

Posted by: Debbie Wasserman Shitz at August 22, 2012 11:45 AM (QKKT0)

107 I really hate to sound dumb here, but what, in the grand scheme of things, does abortion have to do with "women's health?"

They act like abortion is saving the lives of millions of women each day and Republicans would rather them just die already. 

Isn't that the Republican healthcare plan?  Just Die?  Isn't that what Alan Grayson told me?

Posted by: © Sponge at August 22, 2012 11:45 AM (UK9cE)

108 Let's see:

Cecile Richards
Nancy Keenan
Sandra Fluke
Barbara Mikulski
Eva Longoria
John Kerry*
Elizabeth Warren

*whipped


Posted by: where's waldo at August 22, 2012 03:38 PM

Who do you think has the checkbook, darling?

Posted by: Theresa Heinz-Kerry at August 22, 2012 11:45 AM (bAGA/)

109 Think about it: The DNC convention will be a treasure trove of applause lines... for rape and abortion. Not exactly inspiring, is it. Let. Them.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 22, 2012 11:46 AM (G/zuv)

110 This is nice and all, but I still can't fucking believe we're having this conversation given the economy/deficit.

Clearly the Dems think Akin has given them the perfect distraction, and he's clearly a big enough retard to keep doing so should he stay in the race, but Romney needs to ignore the fuck out of abortion and keep the focus where it belongs.

Posted by: Jason at August 22, 2012 11:46 AM (6VB4r)

111 Shit,if it's rape to get laid by lying than every moron is probably a multiple racist.Hell,every man!

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2012 11:46 AM (6o4Fb)

112 82 Are these nine women gonna get drunk and eat some babies alive? Kind of like some pagan Dionysian rite?
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 22, 2012 03:41 PM (i330i)


All while backed by the flouncing and prancing vulvas of the Code Pink Dancers...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 22, 2012 11:46 AM (7GfKM)

113 'Dolphin Rape' never makes the list.

Posted by: hornyfemaledolphin at August 22, 2012 11:46 AM (dZMkH)

114 Well, well.  Three major networks considering skipping Ann Romney's speech:

(goes to Politico)

http://tinyurl.com/9bf535p

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 22, 2012 11:46 AM (UOM48)

115 This will not end well for the Democrats. See Memorial, Wellstone. Yup. They already had Fluke sent out the latest shrill fundraising email.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 22, 2012 11:46 AM (B/VB5)

116 The purrfect storm for Charlotte would be for a Furry con to happen during the Dem's event.  Alas, no such luck.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2012 11:46 AM (fU0YZ)

117 "Seduction" is also called the "I'll make you pancakes" law.

Posted by: Y-not, ginger eskimo at August 22, 2012 11:46 AM (5H6zj)

118 Lol here we are in the middle of a horrible recession and Democrats want to run on rape? Lol wow. These guys are running on empty.

Posted by: bill mitchell at August 22, 2012 11:47 AM (hlUJY)

119 Right= abortion with no rape or incest exceptions, error on the side of life.
VS.
 Left= abortion free and on demand even during the 10th month ie post-birth abortions for all.
Run with it.

Posted by: TJexcite at August 22, 2012 11:47 AM (PNDql)

120 Maybe they can get Kermit Gosnell up on that stage too.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 22, 2012 11:47 AM (xr29d)

121 ATTENTION!

I have 5 tickets to the DNC convention and 5 costumes like this:

http://tinyurl.com/8j6afvg

Who wants to go have a sit in protest?

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 22, 2012 11:47 AM (ovpNn)

122 Shit,  enough with all this rape talk.  Let's talk about this corn.  Sure is special.

Posted by: Ned Beatty at August 22, 2012 11:47 AM (Ky1+e)

123 "The DNC convention will be a treasure trove of applause lines...

for rape and abortion"

Soothsayer, why is it that nothing you say ever makes any sense?

Posted by: Jason at August 22, 2012 11:47 AM (6VB4r)

124

>>>POUND THIS ISSUE !

 

By "issue" you mean me, right?

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at the Dem Convention at August 22, 2012 11:47 AM (BrQrN)

125 When I was in college, the whole "date rape" thing started and from what I can tell it was what happened if the woman really regretted it the next morning.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 22, 2012 11:47 AM (T0NGe)

126 Will Democrats prop up the corpse of Lizzie Borden and opine on how she was simply "misunderstood" and was really incorrectly expressing her rage at the lack of publicly funded contraception?

I mean- do we really want to see that episode repeated thousands of times if Republicans are elected? I think not.

Posted by: Exile at August 22, 2012 11:47 AM (GGCsk)

127 It's time for Jake Tapper to stage a coup at ABC News and get them focused on the economy.

Talk is cheap

Posted by: The Q at August 22, 2012 11:48 AM (B/yDO)

128 The purrfect storm for Charlotte would be for a Furry con to happen during the Dem's event. Alas, no such luck.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2012 03:46 PM (fU0YZ)

 

heh

Posted by: The Jackhole at August 22, 2012 11:48 AM (nTgAI)

129 I laughed when I read this... What's more, the Democrats are expanding their list of women[\i] ready to assail the GOP on women's issue, adding Maryland Sen. Barbara Mikulski and actress Eva Longoria to the list that already includes Sen. John Kerry[\i] and Massachusetts Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren.

Posted by: Bruce at August 22, 2012 11:48 AM (iqUtl)

130 'Honor Rape' - that should be on the list, too.

Posted by: mohammed at August 22, 2012 11:48 AM (dZMkH)

131 late to the thread so this may have already been covered.


He may not want to try to define rape because in most States the law is not defined as raper.  It is various levels of criminal sexual assault that start with inappropriate touching and goes all the way up to criminal sexual assault and battery which is what most people think of as rape.


In SC that last category when performed against a girl less than 14 is still punishable by the death penalty.

Posted by: Vic at August 22, 2012 11:48 AM (YdQQY)

132 Uh, when doesn't the MSM have its stupid hat on?

Posted by: Bud Norton at August 22, 2012 11:48 AM (6cOMd)

133 And Scott Peterson will appear by remote video explaining how he is about to be executed for "killing" a clump of cells.

This November, I will reluctantly terminate my unborn vote.

Posted by: Average Joe at August 22, 2012 03:45 PM (bN5ZU)



Oh come on, doesn't it seem a tad hypocritical that the most liberal state in the country when it comes to abortion and just about every other issue charged me with two counts of murder?

Posted by: Scott Peterson at August 22, 2012 11:48 AM (/YJYi)

134 off itlics

Posted by: Vic at August 22, 2012 11:48 AM (YdQQY)

135 I guess Ryan needs to travel with the criminal code book for whatever state he's in at the moment.  When asked any question like that toss the book to the questioner and tell'em "here, look it up yourself if you're so stupid you don't know what it is"

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 22, 2012 11:49 AM (WnzOT)

136

And what I don't understand is why Paul Ryan doesn't just answer.

___

 

He did answer. He said rape is rape, period. Any other reply would have taken him down the rabbit hole of parsing and continuing the abortion discussion, which is not the focus of the RR2012 message.

 

I posted on another thread about how Ryan stays on message even in the face of obnoxious and persistent heckling. It's a strength, roll with it.

Posted by: kallisto at August 22, 2012 11:49 AM (jm/9g)

Posted by: © Sponge at August 22, 2012 11:49 AM (UK9cE)

138 This year we'll be presenting our Margaret Sanger Award to Dr. Kermit Gosnell.

Posted by: Debbie Wasserman Shitz at August 22, 2012 11:49 AM (QKKT0)

139 1) Talk about how great abortion anytime, anywhere, and for any reason is.
2) ???????
3) Economy recovers and Obama reelected!!

Posted by: DNC Gnome at August 22, 2012 11:49 AM (imtbm)

140 Anyway, apparently the media now has its stupid hat on and is going to ask Paul Ryan to define words whose meanings are quite clear, just so they can get him on tape talking about rape That's why I don't think that was a stupid answer. It's an idiotic, ridiculous question, bless their hearts, and there's no possible good way to answer it. All of these fall under forcible rape, how many people knew there were this many classifications? Do you think the average person who is not a lawyer would? Wasn't it Illinois that wanted to define rape as when a woman changed her mind about consent at any point, up to and include while the guy was in her? So you could go to bed with a woman, get consent, slip it in her, be jackhammering away and if she said "hey no changed my mind" and you didn't instantly pull out and leap to the other side of the room, it was rape. Then there's the whole Dworkin thing that all het sex is rape. I do not blame PVPE Ryan for avoiding the question.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 22, 2012 11:49 AM (VtjlW)

141 With women who look like Sen. Barbara Mikulski on their team, i dont understand how so many democrat woman need abortions....

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 22, 2012 11:49 AM (ovpNn)

142 It's time for Jake Tapper to stage a coup at ABC News and get them focused on the economy.

Talk is cheap

Posted by: The Q at August 22, 2012 03:48 PM (B/yDO)

 

You could tell Tapper knew he was off the reservation when he was talking about the media coverage not being fair. He sounded very uncomfortable.

 

Posted by: The Jackhole at August 22, 2012 11:49 AM (nTgAI)

143 I'll say this for all you bedwetters: at least you're resilient. Welcome back to the School of Hard Knocks.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 22, 2012 11:49 AM (G/zuv)

144 If you google forcible rape you'll see, I don't know, 20 million hits at least, I'd guess.

It's 2.27 million. Po-tay-to, po-tah-to.  At that number the term is fairly common.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at August 22, 2012 11:49 AM (kqqGm)

145 "Right= abortion with no rape or incest exceptions, error on the side of life."

Apparently you didn't read the poll Ace linked. Or you did and don't care because fuck the economy and all that, the only issue that matters is a blanket ban on abortion!

Posted by: Jason at August 22, 2012 11:49 AM (6VB4r)

146 I really hate to sound dumb here, but what, in the grand scheme of things, does abortion have to do with "women's health?" They act like abortion is saving the lives of millions of women each day and Republicans would rather them just die already. _________________ That's a really good question especially when you have abortion for sex selection. IOW future women being killed to protect a woman's right to chose. The Logic Hole of All Time.

Posted by: tasker at August 22, 2012 11:49 AM (r2PLg)

147 They send us Biden, we send people to their convention to talk about partial birth abortion, babies left to die after botched abortions, the Project Veritas tapes showing planned parenthood willing to abort black babies The Project Veritas tapes showing Planned Parenthood willing to abort the babies of minors who were raped without reporting the rape or the abortion the tape of the Planned Parenthood doc he said he wanted to abort "ugly black babies" Oh, and be sure to tell the voters that they are going to pay for it all Bring it

Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2012 11:49 AM (Dnbau)

148 @128: Tell me about it.

Posted by: Brian Banks at August 22, 2012 11:50 AM (B/VB5)

149 Posted by: Bruce at August 22, 2012 03:48 PM (iqUtl)


Forward slash, sir.  [ / i ]

Posted by: © Sponge at August 22, 2012 11:50 AM (UK9cE)

150 128 Yep.The woke up sober and said "Holy shit,I let HIM fuck me!Rape!!". (not that I have any personal experience of this,you understand?)

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2012 11:50 AM (6o4Fb)

151  He shoulda done a full Rumsfeld or a Chris Christie on the reporter. 'Which of the two words in that phrase do you not understand? If you need definitions for either or both of those two words, wouldn't it be simpler if you used a dictionary?'

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at August 22, 2012 11:50 AM (WwR1j)

152 n more modern times, Frank Sinatra was charged in New Jersey in 1938 with seduction, having enticed a woman "of good repute to engage in sexual intercourse with him upon his promise of marriage. The charges were dropped when it was discovered that the woman was already married."


So why wasn't she charged? 


Rhetorical question, of course.  Back then, Nature was treated with some measure of respect.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 22, 2012 11:50 AM (X3lox)

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 22, 2012 11:50 AM (RD7QR)

154 The more I look at the race and the Dems handling of it, the more confident I become. Go right ahead, make your convention a baby murder shrine, that'll play really well with those people who lost their jobs.

Posted by: Big T Party(on vacation) at August 22, 2012 11:50 AM (+iqDb)

155 It's fitting that they're going all Wellstone Memorial on the abortion issue, since they announced that Walter Mondale was gonna take over.

Barky's gonna get raped like poor Walter, bless his heart, was in November '84

Posted by: The Q at August 22, 2012 11:50 AM (B/yDO)

156 Is "forcible rape" equatable to "the bush doctrine"?

Posted by: cynder ella at August 22, 2012 11:50 AM (oZfic)

157 Another good answer he could have used is "rape is when a Republican is interviewed by the MFM".

Posted by: Vic at August 22, 2012 11:50 AM (YdQQY)

158

Republicans need to run on TANSTAAFL... There Aint No Such Thing As A Free Lunch....

 

So her Free Birth Control and Abortions? are paid for by YOU...  Their Free Government Cheese (Food Stamps)? Paid for by YOU....  Illegals getting Free Education? Yup, YOU paid for it...

And even in monetary policy... Inflation and the diminishing worth of the Dollar? destroys YOUR savings...

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 22, 2012 11:50 AM (lZBBB)

159 The Dem party is for letting only illegals babies be born.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 22, 2012 11:51 AM (tf9Ne)

160
1) Increase abortions by x%.
2) ?????
3) Save Medicare and Social Security!!!

Posted by: DNC Gnome at August 22, 2012 11:51 AM (imtbm)

161 >> And what I don't understand is why Paul Ryan doesn't just answer.

Because of Akin. Males talking about rape is like whites talking on the record about racism.

You say as little as you can and keep repeating the same simple tautologies, lest you wind up with a hand grenade up your urethra.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at August 22, 2012 11:51 AM (yxz7s)

162 Akin should be tarred and feathered and ridden out of town on a sharp rail

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2012 11:51 AM (j1gX1)

163 Jason is still upset we know him to be a dunce. Get over it, fool.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 22, 2012 11:51 AM (G/zuv)

164 Just imagine if Rick Santorum were the nominee right now.

Posted by: Jon at August 22, 2012 11:51 AM (Onq3t)

165 Forcible rape is distinguished from statutory rape, which is illegal
___
Only because you bitter clingers don't understand true artistic genius.

IN...THE...POOPER

Posted by: Roman Polanski at August 22, 2012 11:51 AM (AUeaU)

166 oh wow, the briar patch. Maybe we can trick the DNC into having a good ol' gay marriage and abortion hootnanay of a convention. Build up the decadent whitey vote, suppress the socially conservative black vote. yes, 3 days of rape-a-thons and abortions on demands is going to resonate with American's in the grasp of Great Depression 2.0.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at August 22, 2012 11:51 AM (QxSug)

167 Can't wait for the  Number Six dance at the Convention.

Posted by: Taggart at August 22, 2012 11:51 AM (BAS5M)

168 "Unfortunately, no one can be *told* what forcible rape is. You have to see it for yourself.  Now, do you wish to take the blue Roofie or the red sock filled with quarters  across your skull?"

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 22, 2012 11:51 AM (Bdr7Q)

169 1) Talk about how great abortion anytime, anywhere, and for any reason is.
2) ???????
3) Economy recovers and Obama reelected!!


-----------

You realize that the same works for republicans too?...minus the bit about the economy recovering anyway.

The Dems are dying to make this election about social BS and a lot of people on here are eager to help them. And yet I'm the concern troll.

Posted by: Jason at August 22, 2012 11:52 AM (6VB4r)

170 "Not until you pry their cold dead hands from my womb!"

Posted by: Democrats - 2012 at August 22, 2012 11:52 AM (Ky1+e)

171 Lurch being on the list of wimmenz is really making me laugh.  I expect a "Don't you know who I am" letter to the editor tomorrow from that pompous gasbag.

Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny solidarity) at August 22, 2012 11:52 AM (nmgjt)

172 Bless their hearts.  The dems just can't seem to  correctly  judge the national mood.

Posted by: Soona at August 22, 2012 11:52 AM (dPkOm)

173
1) Double the funding for Planned Parenthood (to get rid of all those black "rape" babies.
2)??????
3) Unemployment drops to 3%!!!!!

Posted by: DNC Gnome at August 22, 2012 11:52 AM (imtbm)

174 wow, in #160 a whole sentence didn't come up... "in the category of media gotcha questions"... is supposed to follow the question. wow, that was too weird, too weird sorta freakes me out actually

Posted by: cynder ella at August 22, 2012 11:52 AM (oZfic)

175

>>Then there's the whole Dworkin thing that all het sex is rape. 

 

I think he must have dated Michele at some point.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at August 22, 2012 11:53 AM (dZMkH)

176 I wonder what right Rev Wright thinks about abortion

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2012 11:53 AM (j1gX1)

177 Lawd, the left sure knows how to move the needle. I lost my job but I sure hope some law students can fuck on my dime.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at August 22, 2012 11:53 AM (QxSug)

178 8.3 percent unemployment, a record number of people out of work, and we're focused on defining rape?  Really?


Posted by: Unemployed since February at August 22, 2012 11:53 AM (06qTP)

179

Good for Ryan not stepping into that mudpit.  It could very well happen that the MSM will go overboard trying to get Ryan to say the word rape and end up looking even sillier and more hacktastic than they already do; sort of like the way Obama's campaign is start to look slightly ridiculous going on and on about Romney's taxes.

 

Don't do what your enemy wants you to do.

Posted by: Mikey NTH glad they've decided he isn't an Orc at August 22, 2012 11:53 AM (hLRSq)

180 wow, that was too weird, too weird sorta freakes me out actually

Posted by: cynder ella at August 22, 2012 03:52 PM (oZfic




Bless your heart.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 22, 2012 11:53 AM (UOM48)

181 83% of date rape is a consensual encounter that entirely consisted of three pumps and an apology

Posted by: The Q at August 22, 2012 11:53 AM (B/yDO)

182 In Colorado, thre is no crime named rape but there are many ways to commit sexual assault.  Date rape drugs are a biggie that I haven't seen mentiojned.  (No word on if magic vaginas stop pregnancy in this case.)  There is very broad language in the general sexual assault statute that could contemplate many scenarios those of us who are generally normal could not imagine; e.g., essentially anything that could overcome a victim's will to resist.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 22, 2012 11:53 AM (XUKZU)

183 @150: I saw something recently where scientists were closing in on finding a "gay gene", which could allow for gender-preference selection abortions. The resulting implosion of the Democrat Party would be glorious.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 22, 2012 11:53 AM (B/VB5)

184 Todd Akin, abort this campaign

Posted by: Dave S. at August 22, 2012 11:53 AM (cWpCn)

185 Why not invite Miss Piggy too? Ya know, to ensure they cover abortion with the under 10 years old demographic. She can do a sing-along where the audience participates in spelling A-B-O-R-T-I-O-N. After all, their mothers are either largely unemployed or struggling to make ends meet for the family. It's not like they are doing anything.

Posted by: Exile at August 22, 2012 11:54 AM (GGCsk)

186 "11) If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside (Alinsky 1972: 12911)"

Perhaps I am misunderstanding but when you have Rush/Palin/Romney etc.. all on the same side  in their aggressively going after Akin can this turn into a perceived sister soulja like moment.  Since the left loves to pretend a large amount of conservatives are Akinesque and that Rush/Palin etc. are fully on board with such types.  Yet the only dumbass on board with him is the one guy lefties love.  Huckabee.  All of these conservative outlets everywhere aggressively going after this guy must mess up their "narrative" and as we all know, that's all they have left.

Just a thought about where this might be going and how if handled right Akin could become a neutralized /net positive, in publicly showing the country that such crazy people exist and even the extremist palin/Rush type republicans cant stand those effin people, who are alone and isolated.

Posted by: Shiggz Roketsturgeon at August 22, 2012 11:54 AM (RfvTE)

187 wow, that was too weird, too weird sorta freakes me out actually

Posted by: cynder ella at August 22, 2012 03:52 PM (oZfic)


Yes, do keep us all informed on the developing saga of your psyche.

Posted by: Cicero at August 22, 2012 11:54 AM (QKKT0)

188 It is various levels of criminal sexual assault that start with inappropriate touching and goes all the way up to criminal sexual assault and battery which is what most people think of as rape.
***
Yep. checked off ALL those boxes.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at August 22, 2012 11:54 AM (AUeaU)

189 See, America - we had a chance at electing the First Female President in 2004 and we blew it!

Posted by: The Q at August 22, 2012 11:54 AM (B/yDO)

190 It's the moron, economy.

Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at August 22, 2012 11:54 AM (f8XyF)

191 Maybe, just maybe, the Dems will out-stupid the Republicans this time. Maybe. I hope.

Posted by: ErikW at August 22, 2012 11:55 AM (j7/E9)

192 Suggested Ryan response: "Oh? You don't know what the legal term 'forcible rape' means? Bless your heart, I guess they're not teaching people to use dictionaries in school anymore."

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at August 22, 2012 11:55 AM (FIYvq)

193 185 You apologize to them??

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2012 11:55 AM (6o4Fb)

194 It's fitting that they're going all Wellstone Memorial on the abortion issue,


Which is why people on our side didn't need to go all eleventy!! on the Akin issue. In the end, the baby-murdering left is going to push their depraved indifference to human life to the forefront and any GOPer with a brain will b able to turn any question addressed to them about ANYTHING into any of a number of comments about the nihilisitic left and their insanity (which GOPers could have done even without this, but evidently we don't have people who are that quick on the uptake).

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 22, 2012 11:55 AM (X3lox)

195 yes, 3 days of rape-a-thons and abortions on demands is going to resonate with American's in the grasp of Great Depression 2.0.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at August 22, 2012 03:51 PM (QxSug)

 

 

-----------------------------------------

 

 

Four more years!  Four more years!  Four more years!

Posted by: Morbidly obese Code Pink bitches at August 22, 2012 11:55 AM (dPkOm)

196

Ace's post indicates the two main reasons why I wasn't  as concerned or worried  about  Akin's statement  as  others.

 

1.  The Dems will overreact.  Half this country may consider themselves pro-choice,  though many would say, I am personally against it but don't want to interfere with someone else's choice.  The Dems platform is your choice is wrong if it is life.  And you should be able to do it at 8 months (or even after born in Obama's case).  And by the way, we should all pay for them with our federal tax dollars.  I'm fairly certain the right's stance is more mainstream.

 

2.  Ryan is  a smart and articulate messenger.  Let the media ask  him. 

 

 

Posted by: SH at August 22, 2012 11:55 AM (gmeXX)

197

>>>"Unfortunately, no one can be *told* what forcible rape is. You have to see it for yourself. Now, do you wish to take the blue Roofie or the red sock filled with quarters across your skull?"

 

Uhhhh....I think I already took both.

Posted by: Neo at August 22, 2012 11:55 AM (BrQrN)

198 Remember that General who coined the phrase "Stuck on Stupid" in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina?  I wish more conservative politicians would adopt his attitude when dealing with the press.  Just slap down the dumb questions and shift the focus back to economics.

Posted by: Billy Quizboy at August 22, 2012 11:55 AM (FEzSe)

199

The GOP convention should highlight the donk War on Women, namely the toll that the high unemployment rate is taking on American women. Across the races, the unemployment rate for women is lower than for men. So many working wives' husbands have been laid off, leaving the woman as the sole breadwinner as the husband looks for a job. This is the case in all income levels, it's hitting white collar professionals as hard as their blue collar counterparts.

 

It's a stressful time for so many wives and mothers (not to mention single moms), exacerbated by a preazy who is bound and determined to hamstring American enterprise, therefore chilling the job market.

Posted by: kallisto at August 22, 2012 11:56 AM (jm/9g)

200 It's simple, the media is colluding with the white house to set its programming for the DNC convention. It doesn't matter because Obama will be toast after GOP convention. I think 3 days of ugly leftist harpies screeching "no rape is legitimate, romney" is going to put America to sleep.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at August 22, 2012 11:56 AM (QxSug)

201 180 I wonder what right Rev Wright thinks about abortion

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2012 03:53 PM (j1gX1)


Are we talking Legitimate abortion or I need to lose a few pounds so i can fit in that dress abortion?

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 22, 2012 11:56 AM (ovpNn)

202 50 There are lots of varieties of rape-by-trickery, including slipping into
a woman's bed, counting on her to mistake you for her husband. (This
really happens.)

Where? In opera?
----   That actually happended to me. While I was passed out in the living room after a long night of partying, a former friend went to my bedroom and was in the process of climbing into bed when my wife woke up and screamed bloody murder. Luckily he didn't get a chance to lay a hand on her.   Much to my everlasting shame and regret, due to my incapacitated state, the bastard was able to run out of the house and literally skip town before I was able to react. If I ever see him again...bad things will happen to him.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at August 22, 2012 11:57 AM (YmPwQ)

203 No need to get into the weeds on the different types of rape. If you're explaining, you're losing...I thought his answer was fine. It'd be nice if the Left would drop this ridiculous "redefining rape" bs and actually report that forcible rape is the LEGAL term, but that's clearly asking too much. Not when there's a War on Women campaign to wage on behalf of the Obama campaign.

Posted by: Chris at August 22, 2012 11:57 AM (gI9Bk)

204

A  good response would have been:  "Which word is troubling you, forcible or rape?  But look let's get back to moving this economy forward."

 

 

Posted by: SH at August 22, 2012 11:57 AM (gmeXX)

205 I am beginning to notice a pattern if its in the news we win the brief and long skirmishes since they minimize media input.  Briefly daily pop up news catches news off guard makes it harder for them to twist the story into "the narrative."  If it stays in the news for a long time we usually win because its enough time for the info to filter out into the national conscious outside the MFM.

again just a musing

Posted by: Shiggz Roketsturgeon at August 22, 2012 11:58 AM (RfvTE)

206 How exactly does having John Kerry the gigolo in that list of speakers advance womens' issues?  Unless it is some sort of warning on what to avoid when dating.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 22, 2012 11:58 AM (KwMW2)

207 Forcible Grape

Posted by: Awesome Band Name? at August 22, 2012 11:58 AM (dZMkH)

208 201 >>>"Unfortunately, no one can be *told* what forcible rape is. You have to see it for yourself. Now, do you wish to take the blue Roofie or the red sock filled with quarters across your skull?"

Uhhhh....I think I already took both. Posted by: Neo

Any guy who wants a little inkling of what it is, just put some vaseline on your asshole, then bendo over in a doorway and have somebody slam the door shut.

Oh make sure its a twisty nob and not a handle or you might have complications getting it out.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 22, 2012 11:58 AM (ovpNn)

209 If you were really concerned about reducing rape, or at least convictions thereof, you'd become a well-known Democrat.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at August 22, 2012 11:58 AM (FcR7P)

210

104 Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 22, 2012 03:45 PM (da5Wo)

 

AtC?

 

No, AtC has large stompy boots, gloves and a riding crop ...

Posted by: Arbalest at August 22, 2012 11:58 AM (QmKg2)

211 Just when you think the R's are the stupid party, and they are, they're not alone.  Every time the D's kick that sleeping giant, namely religion, they get kicked back to the 20th century.

You just keep fucking that chicken, DNC.

Posted by: © Sponge at August 22, 2012 11:59 AM (UK9cE)

212 I mean, right? This is what the brain trust is going to run on for Nov. 2012? is rape ever legitimate? The left wing cocoon and left wing pathology cause some strange choices. At least my brain won't hurt as much as "bin ladin dead, GM alive" convention they were planning.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at August 22, 2012 11:59 AM (QxSug)

213 It's going to be a small-issues convention.

Posted by: JonathanEllis at August 22, 2012 11:59 AM (BdzEV)

214 What's more, the Democrats are expanding their list of women ready to assail the GOP on women's issue, adding Maryland Sen. Barbara Mikulski and actress Eva Longoria to the list that already includes Sen. John Kerry and Massachusetts Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren.

I guess Bill Clinton, William KENNEDY Smith, RFK Jr, and Chris Dodd were otherwise occupied

Posted by: kbdabear at August 22, 2012 11:59 AM (wwsoB)

215

And what I don't understand is why Paul Ryan doesn't just answer.

 

Probably because he knows that getting into a semantics discussion about rape on the national stage is a really stupid idea.  Something Akin and his defenders just can't comprehend.

Posted by: buzzion at August 22, 2012 11:59 AM (GULKT)

216 ....so, we're gonna go out on a limb here...Damn Sockpuppet, is your wife hawt?

Posted by: THE ENTIRE MORONOSPHERE at August 22, 2012 12:00 PM (+hPIb)

217 It's a stressful time for so many wives and mothers (not to mention single moms),

You seem to have left out a category of women who work "outside the home" at greater percentages than those you mention.

Of course, conservatives hate us, so I'm not surprised.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at August 22, 2012 12:00 PM (/kI1Q)

218 I posted the story of this "hate crime" on the ONT recently.Now there is a new development in the case. NEW YORK (AP) -- A New York City newspaper says it received an anonymous call from a person claiming to have discarded spoiled bacon in a park where Muslims had scheduled Ramadan prayers. The caller said he was putting it out for seagulls and raccoons to eat, not as an anti-Muslim statement. The Staten Island Advance ( http://bit.ly/ReDRtS ) said the message was left Tuesday on a reporter's voicemail. The caller said "It was not any ... anti-Muslim act, and I did not want to offend anybody." The NYPD is investigating the incident as a possible hate crime. It was informed of the call but declined to discuss it....

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2012 12:00 PM (6o4Fb)

219 The Code Pink Vaginas will open for the DNC's headliner, the Vagina Monologues.

Posted by: ID Required for Attendance at August 22, 2012 12:00 PM (IPhbB)

220 Watching "Comedians in cars getting Coffee with Jerry Seinfeld," who is certainly no conservative,  had picked up Ricky Gervaise who was on about being anti-death penalty and the horrors of it and Seinfeld said "but don't you support abortion?"

The Brian Regan and Alec Baldwin eps were pretty good.  The Ricky G and Larry David were meh.

Posted by: Shiggz Roketsturgeon at August 22, 2012 12:00 PM (RfvTE)

221 187 @150: I saw something recently where scientists were closing in on finding a "gay gene", which could allow for gender-preference selection abortions. The resulting implosion of the Democrat Party would be glorious. Posted by: Ian S. at August 22, 2012 03:53 PM (B/VB5) _____________ Yikes. Imagine what would happen to a student that brought up that little moral dilemma in their Ethics class?

Posted by: tasker at August 22, 2012 12:00 PM (r2PLg)

222 45 14
Which would screw up the Dem messaging the most: Akin dropping out the
day before the Dem convention, during the convention, or the day after?


Posted by: Jon at August 22, 2012 03:34 PM (Onq3t)

The day before, they have no time to realign their narrative.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at August 22, 2012 03:38 PM (AWmfW)


Agree.  During or after would be construed too much as a reaction to their message.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at August 22, 2012 12:01 PM (kqqGm)

223 That actually happended to me. While I was passed out in the living room after a long night of partying, a former friend went to my bedroom and was in the process of climbing into bed when my wife
***
Yeah this does happen a lot. I call it Wednesday.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at August 22, 2012 12:01 PM (AUeaU)

224 “Rape is rape. Rape is rape, period. End of story.”

Isn't this very much in line with the feminists "No means no"?

Bless my heart, I'm trying.

Posted by: mallfly at August 22, 2012 12:01 PM (bJm7W)

225 The Dems had already intended to run their campaign on "women's issues" and throwing grandma off the cliff.  They want to run on everything but Obama's record. Especially the economy and unemployment which is much worse than they are putting out.


They only modified it slightly to add this phony rape bull shit.  Every Republican should do what I said early, when they ask a stupid question like this. 


Answer with a "bad economy" answer or something else Obama has screwed up. The Dems have been doing this for years on Fox (none of the alphabets ever ask them tough questions).

Posted by: Vic at August 22, 2012 12:01 PM (YdQQY)

226 oh Lawd, 3 days of pudgy elderly harpies glomming on about rape while celebrating Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy. As I said on Twitter, the PAC ads will just write themselves.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at August 22, 2012 12:01 PM (QxSug)

227 219 buzzion, You got it.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 12:01 PM (LRFds)

228 --abortion --higher taxes --rape --global warming alarmism --obesity alarmism --homosexual marriage sounds like a grand ol' time

Posted by: soothsayer at August 22, 2012 12:01 PM (G/zuv)

229 83% of date rape is a consensual encounter that entirely consisted of three pumps and an apology

 

Posted by: The Q at August 22, 2012 03:53 PM (B/yDO)

 

Oh, to reach three glorious pumps!

Posted by: Taggart at August 22, 2012 12:02 PM (BAS5M)

230 Legitimate Ape.

Posted by: Grape Ape's Non-Star Brother at August 22, 2012 12:02 PM (+hPIb)

231

Cecile Richards

Nancy Keenan

Sandra Fluke

Barbara Mikulski

Eva Longoria

John Kerry*

Elizabeth Warren

 

I can't believe they are going to make this all about rape and, at best, there's only one rape-able person on that list.

Posted by: garrett at August 22, 2012 12:02 PM (dZMkH)

232 Do all of RFK JR's wives hang themselves? ANd are they all buried in ass end of the family cemetery? Piss of a Democratic Kennedy and end up in the ass end of the cemetery. WOOOO women's rights!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2012 12:02 PM (j1gX1)

233 "What's more, the Democrats are expanding their list of women ready to assail the GOP on women's issue, adding Maryland Sen. Barbara Mikulski and actress Eva Longoria to the list that already includes Sen. John Kerry and Massachusetts Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren." So are they saying John Kerry is effeminate, or are they saying he had one of those tranny operations and really is a woman now, vajayjay and all?

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 22, 2012 12:02 PM (Qzk6N)

234 It's not all business girlfrens! Sandra knows how to cut loose! Join me in the DNC Convention game room where you can play tension-reducing classics like: Kick A Wife Beater In The Nuts! Whack-A-Pole! Castration Alley Shooting Gallery Ms. Pacman & Bobbing For Beaver! See You There!

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at August 22, 2012 12:02 PM (AP6/F)

235

Well there's a motely crew...Lurch, Fauxcahontas, Sandra Slut, Slick (rapier) Willy, et. al.

I am sick and tired of this so-called 'war on wimmenz'.  Woman and girls are actually brutalized in this world but nary a peep from these assholes.  How about some honor killings in Dearborn and other US locales?  Did these dimwits come out and condemn this as a war on women?  Or is it all about having free birth control and free abortions on demand? Ya I know.

 

Posted by: Cheri at August 22, 2012 12:02 PM (G+Wff)

236 What if the woman actually consents, but she only consents due to fraud or trickery? There actually are such cases; for example, doctors have told women that in order to examine them they'd have to probe them with their penises (no, this really happened; there are cases in the books).

Just relax. You may feel a hot throbbing sensation...

Posted by: Dr. Kielbasa at August 22, 2012 12:02 PM (QKKT0)

237 Maybe this is a good time to remind the country that Obama wants you to pay  for all abortions in this country  regardless of your views on the matter. 

Posted by: SH at August 22, 2012 12:03 PM (gmeXX)

238 I will certainly enjoy bringing this abortion prioritization up with all the Democrat muslims, religious blacks, and pro life blue collar/gov working whites (who think they are  still voting for the racist FDR) that I come across.

Posted by: Shiggz Roketsturgeon at August 22, 2012 12:03 PM (RfvTE)

239 And here is why these people are sick and warped pieces of shit.

If your a woman your chances are greater that you will be aborted by your mother as 580,000 baby girls are aborted per year than raped, 191,000 sexual assaults were reported in 2005.

So tell me again why is abortion a women's health issue?

Posted by: General Woundwort at August 22, 2012 12:03 PM (06lNq)

240 The DNC: When You're Lacking Real Balls, You Go With What You've Got.

Posted by: neutered men at August 22, 2012 12:03 PM (IPhbB)

241 Democrat National Convention 2012

Now we can expand our fisting discussions to more than just taxpayers!!!

Posted by: H Badger at August 22, 2012 12:03 PM (n/0Nw)

242 At the end of the convention will be a big song and dance number directed by Roman Polanski.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 22, 2012 12:04 PM (G/zuv)

243 --abortion
--higher taxes
--rape
--global warming alarmism
--obesity alarmism
--homosexual marriage


sounds like a grand ol' time

Posted by: soothsayer at August 22, 2012 04:01 PM (G/zuv)


I can't wait.  Going to make sure I have plenty of Maker's Mark and snacks to enjoy with the show.

Posted by: Adam at August 22, 2012 12:04 PM (/YJYi)

244 I was for forcible rape before I was against it

Posted by: John F'n Kerry at August 22, 2012 12:04 PM (B/yDO)

245 SH, # 208: "A good response would have been: 'Which word is troubling you, forcible or rape?'" Bad response! The headlines the next day would read, Ryan Asks What's Troubling About Forcible Rape.

Posted by: JPS at August 22, 2012 12:04 PM (v83OH)

246 Re:Santorum/Akin

Here is the lightbulb-inducing blurb I threw out to my lib Cow-orkers during the primaries, couched in language they could understand:

"Santorum is doing the impossible: making the Mormon one-percenter look like the moderate in this race."

Akin does the same- he gives R^2 a rightward pole to contrast against.  All we need now is the Dems to give us a leftward pole to do the same.  A whole convention of butch cuts and flannel barking about the right to strangle newborns that otherwise would be in a PICU struggling for life had someone simply "chosen" differently will do nicely.

Yeah Barky... we're LAUGHING at the superior intellect.

Posted by: Hagbard Celine at August 22, 2012 12:04 PM (+/VIS)

247 At the end of the convention will be a big song and dance number directed by Roman Polanski. Posted by: soothsayer at August 22, 2012 04:04 PM (G/zuv) Why wasn't I told about this?

Posted by: Woody Allen at August 22, 2012 12:04 PM (j1gX1)

248 I am excited for this. The DNC's convention is going to be unwatcheable snooze fest. 3 days of "no rape is legitimate, Mr. Romney"* and "ghey marriage is a right, you haters" Sure to move the needle with every blue collar voter out there. * and of course, there's no racial component to white bitches screeching about rape. To the Lifetime crowd, it's always the white captain of the football team doing it.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at August 22, 2012 12:04 PM (QxSug)

249 J-school is just so difficult, bless their heart!

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 22, 2012 12:05 PM (MrM2k)

250 Off topic, but some more news about the FRC shooters' indictment. He's not being charged with a hate crime. And the media that can determine hidden meanings and dog whistles just can't imagine why this wannabe mass murderer (and we should call him that) carried almost as many Chick Fil A sandwiches as he had bullets....nor do they report that he had the address of another conservative outfit in his pocket....

I guess they need an ace of spades Moron to explain what a death card is.....and that it can be a sandwich.

Posted by: vivi at August 22, 2012 12:05 PM (OTPxW)

251 Rape, you mean like at Occupy Camps?

Posted by: USS Diversity at August 22, 2012 12:05 PM (0CiTm)

252 Rape and Racism. It's almost as inspirational as Hope & Change. The convention should be a real hoot!

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at August 22, 2012 12:05 PM (+lsX1)

253 Posted by: Arbalest at August 22, 2012 03:40 PM (QmKg2) All your caps are belong to me. Give them over. Don't make me come for the apostrophes.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 22, 2012 12:05 PM (VtjlW)

254 nothing brings out the vote than to make other people pay for killin babies!

Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2012 12:05 PM (Dnbau)

255

Posted by: HeatherRadish at August 22, 2012 04:00 PM (/kI1Q)

___

 

If you're referring to working women who are not wives and mothers but afraid of losing their jobs in current environment, or actually unemployed, you are correct, that was an oversight. I'm posting from work and trying to get my thoughts together as quickly as possible, so it was an honest mistake.

 

But the point stands, the hideous job market is putting an extra hurt on American women, and that's what the GOP should highlight.

Posted by: kallisto at August 22, 2012 12:05 PM (jm/9g)

256 I fully expect the democrats to have an abortion tent with silver etched gyno stirrups at their convention, with free drinks and viewing platform for those at the $5,000 level.  For $10,000 you get a commemorative plate.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 22, 2012 12:06 PM (O1BLm)

257 The DNC Convention:  Everything But The Economy!

Posted by: a paper balled up in the trash-can of the focus group conference room at August 22, 2012 12:06 PM (+hPIb)

258 And their convention's in Gehenna, right? Figures. http://tinyurl.com/92t4zud However, because of contractual obligations ("Too many effin' stagehands! At these rates?!? F'gedda boudit."), Moloch himself will only appear in a video, slated for Day 3.

Posted by: Thorvald at August 22, 2012 12:06 PM (1V6Pv)

259

I would like to hear the issue be framed around responsibility (with the exception of rape).....with birth control being cheap, why so many abortions?  Why should the taxpayers be on the hook to pay for other people's lifestyle choices and irresponsibility. 

Posted by: Cheri at August 22, 2012 12:06 PM (G+Wff)

260 Remember these socialist chanters for free abortion on demand?  Warning will make you wish to unintentionally fund birthcontrol for college students and democrats in general.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJEhrkTwDqk

Posted by: Shiggz Roketsturgeon at August 22, 2012 12:06 PM (RfvTE)

261 FWIW, Ryan should stay the course and STFU. They should not get in on camera saying anything distinguishing different types of rape. It's simply a trap to make him say some rapes aren't so bad.

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 22, 2012 12:06 PM (MrM2k)

262 I'm a pro-choicer and as I see it, this is going to backfire in their faces pretty bad.  The only people who haven't decided are going to see it as overkill and farce.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 22, 2012 12:06 PM (dZ756)

263

220...yes she is. Very curvy, IYKWIMAITYD.

 

My ex-friend was decidedly not. And he would have been even less hot if I had caught him and hit him with a ballpeen hammer.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at August 22, 2012 12:06 PM (YmPwQ)

264 229 vic, Pretty much what ryan did iirc...

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 12:06 PM (LRFds)

265 Oh, and good. I've been trying to tell Catholics who voted for this SCoaMF that his intent is to promote abortion and get it funded by taxpayers. And Sandra, the Slut, Fluke's gal pals are already carrying posters that say, "Free Abortion On Demand, No Excuses". They are not just pro choice, they are promoting abortion as something that is no big deal and should be as common as drinking water.

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 22, 2012 12:06 PM (Qzk6N)

266 Miss Piggy at the convention?  She would offend all the Muslims.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2012 12:07 PM (fU0YZ)

267 I mean STFU in the direct sense, not an insult.

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 22, 2012 12:07 PM (MrM2k)

268 He's not being charged with a hate crime.

We're lucky the charges haven't been reduced to littering.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 22, 2012 12:07 PM (WnzOT)

269 * and of course, there's no racial component to white bitches screeching about rape. To the Lifetime crowd, it's always the white captain of the football team doing it.>>

Whose scripts were all written by homely bitter women the captain of the football team ignored.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 22, 2012 12:07 PM (tf9Ne)

270 Sock off

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2012 12:07 PM (j1gX1)

271 @269 I hope that a 3 day celebration of abortion and ghey murrige will really bring the Obamlics out of their stupor

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at August 22, 2012 12:07 PM (QxSug)

272 focused like a laser...on your punanne

Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2012 12:08 PM (Dnbau)

273 The media's spent too little time in J-School and too much time on J-Date

Posted by: Stormfront at August 22, 2012 12:08 PM (B/yDO)

274 DNC convention will officially become one of those creepy "scissors around the neck" female lefty klan I mean wimmin rallys.

Posted by: Shiggz Roketsturgeon at August 22, 2012 12:08 PM (RfvTE)

275 And Ace, thanks for the Sinatra tib-bit.  Now have to research when it happened because story I am writing is set in 1938.  If it happens after the story I don't have to worry, but before?  Oh my talk about something everyone would talk about in the story.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2012 12:09 PM (fU0YZ)

276 someone probably already noted this, but on the list of issue importance


abortion is LAST.    People aren't totally stupid:  They know that abortion is a Fact of Modern Life and it's not going to be taken away.


The Dems are chasing their own Squirrels now

Posted by: Josef Djugashvili ( call me Stalin ) at August 22, 2012 12:09 PM (Dll6b)

277 If the theme of the DNC Convention is supporting Pro-Choice, we'd like some time at the podium.

Posted by: The National Committee to Repeal the 13th Amendment at August 22, 2012 12:09 PM (QKKT0)

278 So ace, are you going to liveblog Bambi's keynote? And Sandy Fluke's too, that should be a hoot.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 22, 2012 12:09 PM (RD7QR)

279 * and of course, there's no racial component to white bitches screeching about rape. To the Lifetime crowd, it's always the white captain of the football team doing it. Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at August 22, 2012 04:04 PM

Dammit, I said NO SPOILERS!

Now I'm going to have to rewrite it to make the rich white CEO the rapist.

Posted by: Dick Wolf at August 22, 2012 12:09 PM (wwsoB)

280 Oh dear lawd, the only thing that would make me happier than the 3 day rape-a-thon would be a DNC slut walk. oh bless their hearts, nothing better than seeing the code pink crowd tart it up to take back the word slut...on national TV. "There you go, America, this is what the democrats have to offer you."

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at August 22, 2012 12:10 PM (QxSug)

281

Heh.  Ah remembuh  how much  Monica  loved  how I'd wear  this old  woven straw fedoruh and mah  socks...

...

...what?  I thought  I was here to talk about what Ah Wore on Women...?

Posted by: Bill Clinton at August 22, 2012 12:10 PM (+hPIb)

282 @279: You might try to catch "Mary Poppins' Perfect Piercing" on the morning thread, he/she knows all the titillating old-timey Hollywood stories.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 22, 2012 12:10 PM (B/VB5)

283 Another thing to note about the DNC convention is that while it takes place in reddish-conservative North Carolina, no moderate Democrat-candidates will step foot near the place! So the DNC convention is in NC, and it's nothing but the party's radical left-wing ideologues. It's gonna go over like a fart in Church's Fried Chicken.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 22, 2012 12:10 PM (G/zuv)

284 On a serious note, the Conservatives I know treat their wives or "significant" others with more respect than the Liberals I know.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2012 12:10 PM (j1gX1)

285 I'm just looking forward to Fluke making regular appearances in the comments section again!

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 22, 2012 12:10 PM (MrM2k)

286 I am sick and tired of this so-called 'war on wimmenz'. Woman and girls are actually brutalized in this world but nary a peep from these assholes. How about some honor killings in Dearborn and other US locales? Did these dimwits come out and condemn this as a war on women? Or is it all about having free birth control and free abortions on demand?Ya I know.

Posted by: Cheri at August 22, 2012 04:02 PM (G+Wff)

 

 

---------------------------------------------

 

 

I read either in Breitbart,  WZ,  or Gateway  Pundit that the dems are bringing in some radical muzzies to the convention.  Man, oh, man.  The optics of this convention are going to be hilarious.  No wonder so many dem politicians aren't going. 

Posted by: Soona at August 22, 2012 12:10 PM (dPkOm)

287 **Now I'm going to have to rewrite it to make the rich white CEO the rapist. Posted by: Dick Wolf at August 22, 2012 04:09 PM (wwsoB)** I know, right? That one always throws me for a loop. Of course, with 50 shades of grey being the nations' female whacking material, CEO's are hot....say, who's a powerful CEO type running for president?

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at August 22, 2012 12:11 PM (QxSug)

288 still cheatin'

Posted by: zombie Hank Williams at August 22, 2012 12:11 PM (z9HTb)

289 Punished with a baby!

Special needs bowling!

The only thing between you and the pitchforks!


I yam a joke.

Posted by: I, Barry at August 22, 2012 12:11 PM (PcoXF)

290 i dunno. on the one hand, a celebration of all the wonders of abortion isn't really gonna change many hearts and minds. on the other hand, if the democrats are able to successfully maintain the national focus on vaginagate, it could end up having disastrous results for right-wing enthusiasm. furthermore, ANY opportunity for the left to talk about anything other than the economy can only make romney's job harder. sigh. i keep hoping that christianity will eventually get with the 21st-century programme; even hinduism and buddhism have updated their spiritual philosophies to fit better within the modern landscape of scientific knowledge and theory. (for example, we *know* that prayer works -- even to heal you, sometimes -- by confirming your deeply-held biases. *of course* god is going to tell you to stay the fucking course if you ask him.) every time i think there's hope for the modern christian, i end up reading some story about vaginas that can prevent the admission of rape-sperm...and, what's worse, i see with my own two eyes the apparent lack of shame christian politicians have in holding such beliefs! i know i'm knee-jerking, here, but i think i'm entitled to it, given the circumstance. these are the same people who were convinced it was more important to get santorum in there fighting against condoms and fag marriage than it was to fix the economy so that we'd actually still HAVE a society to worry about in twenty years.

Posted by: jimi ray at August 22, 2012 12:11 PM (79EF9)

291 246 With the kennedy clan dancers

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 12:11 PM (LRFds)

292 and this is why Romney was the best candidate available for 2012--


any of the anti-SoCon voodoo  "Republicans want to control your body" attacks will Epically Fail


I tole you people this back in January; yes, I did.........

Posted by: Josef Djugashvili ( call me Stalin ) at August 22, 2012 12:12 PM (Dll6b)

293

As a state Senator, Barack's  recorded  rationalization  as  to  why  they  should  let  abortion-surviving  babies  die  in  utility  closets  is  bound  to make  an  impression.    I'm  sure  he  still  doesn't  get  why  people  think  its barbaric.    If  they  want  the  discussion, oblige them. 

 

There is a nurse that took a child out of the garbage and cradled it until it died.   Her recounting of the incident would also make an impression especially on that jumbo screen set-up they have at the Convention.

 

Republicans  wouldn't  discuss  this  because  someone  might  suggest  that they  don't  think  Obama  is  a  nice  guy.   Republicans, enough  with  the  kid  gloves.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 22, 2012 12:12 PM (D9CxV)

294 Since Bob Casey Jr is his late daddy's sockpuppet on everything else, I assume he'll be forbidden to speak.

Well, that and the fact that he's Biden level retarded

Posted by: kbdabear at August 22, 2012 12:12 PM (wwsoB)

295 I'm just looking forward to Fluke making regular appearances in the comments section again!
_______
I've learned to multitask baby.

Hey Client #5 shit or get off the pot - #6 is getting bored already.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at August 22, 2012 12:12 PM (AUeaU)

296

So wait . . .

Then the standard is that abortion should not be legal in the case of underage consensual sex or "seduction"?

Seriously?!?!?

Having the term defined, and in that manner, is going to help?

If you are underage and cannot control yourself or if you get lied to then you have to carry to term whether you want to or not, and that is not merely just, but also something people will support.

Maybe this is better off buried if you hope to convince people it is not all DNC fearmongering.

Posted by: Sam at August 22, 2012 12:12 PM (6VSdJ)

297 oh, and BTW, the real gender war is the left's war on men. From insane divorce laws to Great Depression 2.0's impact on men, as well as all the fatherless kids the left's base has, it's anti-men all the time.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at August 22, 2012 12:13 PM (QxSug)

298 You gotta figure that Bill Clinton's about to have a conveniently timed health scare to get away from this circus

Posted by: The Q at August 22, 2012 12:13 PM (B/yDO)

299

"Free Abortion On Demand, No Excuses".

 

I don't think anyone would watch it, but then again,   that doesn't seem to stop Dish from running 25 different  shopping / auction channels...

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 22, 2012 12:13 PM (+hPIb)

300 sigh. Posted by: jimi ray Anybody ever tell you you're kind of a pussy?

Posted by: soothsayer at August 22, 2012 12:14 PM (G/zuv)

301
on the other hand, if the democrats are able to successfully maintain the national focus on vaginagate, it could end up having disastrous results for right-wing enthusiasm. furthermore, ANY opportunity for the left to talk about anything other than the economy can only make romney's job harder.

Posted by: jimi ray at August 22, 2012 04:11 PM (79EF9)



someone probably already noted this, but on the list of issue importance


abortion is LAST.

Posted by: Josef Djugashvili ( call me Stalin ) at August 22, 2012 04:09 PM (Dll6b)


Posted by: Adam at August 22, 2012 12:14 PM (/YJYi)

302 jimi ray at August 22, 2012 04:11 PM (79EF9)

Fat, drunk, and drenched in cat piss is no way to go through life, son.

Posted by: Zombie Dean Wormer at August 22, 2012 12:14 PM (+/VIS)

303 As a Democratic fund-raiser, quoted in the Politico e-book, says about the president, “He doesn’t understand the rich. He’s an intellectual elitist, not an economic one.”
Bless his heart.

Posted by: mallfly at August 22, 2012 12:14 PM (bJm7W)

304 Going all in on vaginiagate is fucking stupid. The left is cocooned and crazy, this is their own version of "rape doesn't cause pregnancy, we have science to prove it." It's stupid and offensive.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at August 22, 2012 12:14 PM (QxSug)

305 Ahhhh.  Katie Pavlovich on Cavuto.

Posted by: Soona at August 22, 2012 12:14 PM (dPkOm)

306 I read in a magazine once that all men are potential rapist and that us women need to be alert at all times. I have experienced men staring at me and got that creepy feeling. I hope President Obama in his next term does something about this .....

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro,Vt at August 22, 2012 12:14 PM (48wze)

307 oh by the way, that was from Yahoo news, about how Obama doesn't kowtow to the rich.

Posted by: mallfly at August 22, 2012 12:15 PM (bJm7W)

308 And the GOP PAC's will write themself with this nonsense, put some ice on that.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at August 22, 2012 12:15 PM (QxSug)

309 I'm sorry, I've forgotten:  is it Dworkin, or MacKinnon, who teaches that all sex is rape?

Because if they don't represent that long-taught academic fact on their podium, they're misstating their case.  And someone ought to say so.

Posted by: comatus at August 22, 2012 12:15 PM (qaVK+)

310 Rape Ape!  Rape Ape!

Posted by: Rape Ape at August 22, 2012 12:16 PM (Bdr7Q)

311 any of the anti-SoCon voodoo "Republicans want to control your body" attacks will Epically Fail

Posted by: Josef Djugashvili ( call me Stalin ) at August 22, 2012 04:12 PM

Then why are Moochelle, Jugears, Nanny Bloomberg, and the other statists so anal about what we eat, how much we exercise, and our every little vice or habit ? It's almost like they want to control our bodies, isn't it?

Posted by: kbdabear at August 22, 2012 12:16 PM (wwsoB)

312 Young Republicans or some such should dress as libtards and hand out wire coat hangers with paper jackets with "Obama '12" emblazoned on them.

Posted by: ErikW at August 22, 2012 12:16 PM (j7/E9)

313

There was a bizarre case (sorry if this was covered already, I'm coming in cold after 300+ comments) of the McDonalds employee who had been tricked into stripping and then somehow  performing oral sex, I think, on someone who was on the phone, claiming to be with the security company that monitors their video feed. 

 

I remember seeing it on one of those investigative shows a few years ago, and apparently this poor, ignorant female just went along with it because the authority figure on the phone was so convincing. 

 

Yeah, that would qualify was rape or sodomy or whatever the legal term would be, depending on the act. 

Posted by: BurtTC at August 22, 2012 12:16 PM (TOk1P)

314 294 jimi ray Yeah Islam is down the hall.... Look plenty of Xians HAVE softened their view, a lot of us take a lot of heat for settling on taking the gradual approach at all. Judaism hasn't modified much either, it's a personal affair. Thanks

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 12:16 PM (LRFds)

315 The Kennedy and Clinton men are famously for abortion.  For some reason.

but not swimming or driving lessons.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 22, 2012 12:17 PM (O1BLm)

316

"i know i'm knee-jerking, here"

 

I'm pretty sure that's a sin, too.

Posted by: Onan at August 22, 2012 12:17 PM (+hPIb)

317 Now have to research when it happened because story I am writing is set in 1938. If it happens after the story I don't have to worry, but before? Oh my talk about something everyone would talk about in the story.

Was Sinatra a household name in '38?

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 22, 2012 12:17 PM (xr29d)

318 It's striking that the Dems try to tie the Republican's to the mistaken belief of an unknown Missouri candidate, and yet accept money from, and support, without reservation, the agenda of a straight up eugenicist organization.

Posted by: toby928© at August 22, 2012 12:17 PM (QupBk)

319

317 -

 

Reread before posting...  no, she performed oral sex on somebody in the building, obviously,  but the whole thing was being "directed" by somebody on the phone. 

Posted by: BurtTC at August 22, 2012 12:18 PM (TOk1P)

320 Phew, don't have to write about an almost unknown crooner named Frank Sinatra.  Arrest is after Orson Wells scared the whole country.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2012 12:18 PM (fU0YZ)

321

They are not just pro choice, they are promoting abortion as something that is no big deal and should be as common as drinking water.    Posted by: nerdygirl

 

And their dreamboat idol  the SCOAMF voted twice in Illinois to approve of 'shelving' babies that survived their abortions.  Absolutely disgusting.

Posted by: Cheri at August 22, 2012 12:18 PM (G+Wff)

322 Oh please, Jimi ray. Super rape proof vaginas is not a Christian belief.

Posted by: Lauren at August 22, 2012 12:18 PM (wsGWu)

323 Fetuses, please don't think we are clods.
We said fetuses, get yourself from our bods.
We said fetuses, 'cause your in for a ride,
There's no need for false pride.

Fetuses, there's a place you will play,
We said fetuses, when we shorten your stay.
You will stay there and we're sure you'll enjoy,
Wondering if you were a girl or boy.

(Chorus)

It's fun to have an A-B-O-R
It's fun to have a T-I-O-N
They offer everything for a fetus to enjoy.
You'll never hang out with all your toys.

It's fun to have an A-B-O-R
It's fun to have a T-I-O-N
We will get ourselves clean, you'll like your new deal,
As you're butchered just like young veal.

Fetuses, are you listening to us?
We said fetuses, how is it under our bus?
We said fetuses, you'll never make real your dreams,
But you've got to know this one thing.

No woman builds you all by herself,
We said fetuses, we take our pride off the shelf
And just go there to P.P. today.
We're sure you'll like their kind ways.

(Chorus)

Posted by: from the medley of tunes Dems will sing along to in Charlotte of the Cycling Stars at August 22, 2012 12:18 PM (HmCnI)

324 FREE THE 'VAGINA MELEE !!!

Posted by: Eye Tie at August 22, 2012 12:18 PM (bvqC9)

325 I hate the fact that our convention is first. Because a week after the Democrats disrupt and spit on the GOP convention, they'll be at their convention talking about unity and civility and bipartisanship.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 22, 2012 12:18 PM (G/zuv)

326 At the end of the convention will be a big song and dance number directed by Roman Polanski.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 22, 2012 04:04 PM (G/zuv)



With all of the Hollywood half wits, they can stage a Springtime for Hitler finale.

It's Springtime for Barry and abortion,

It's winter for Romney & Ryan.

We're aborting at a faster pace,

Look out world it's the end of the human race

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 22, 2012 12:19 PM (1Jaio)

327 If you are underage and cannot control yourself or if you get lied to then you have to carry to term whether you want to or not, and that is not merely just, but also something people will support. Maybe this is better off buried if you hope to convince people it is not all DNC fearmongering. Posted by: Sam at August 22, 2012 04:12 PM (6VSdJ) Underage is sketchy, but being lied to? You still schtooped the guy willingly. Just like if the guy "accidentally" comes inside a woman.

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 22, 2012 12:19 PM (MrM2k)

328 "I read either in Breitbart, WZ, or Gateway Pundit that the dems are bringing in some radical muzzies to the convention. " Cool. Will there be a speech about having sex with the dead wives?

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 22, 2012 12:19 PM (Qzk6N)

329 Like I said earlier, just wait out abortion until it becomes a threat to teh gheys. It'll be immediately banned in all circumstances, and being a pro-abortion feminist will instantly become a hate crime on the scale of being a Chick-Fil-A franchisee.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 22, 2012 12:20 PM (B/VB5)

330 The Kennedy and Clinton men are famously for abortion. For some reason. but not swimming or driving lessons. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 22, 2012 04:17 PM (O1BLm) Well you got that alittle wrong. Driving and swimming in booze is how they preform abortions.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2012 12:20 PM (j1gX1)

331 Nevada LVJR/SurveyUSA Obama at +2% within the margin of error. Essentially tied.

Posted by: tasker at August 22, 2012 12:20 PM (r2PLg)

332 And who says the Dems are just a bunch of Beta males? Oh, right. Their women, that's who.

Posted by: MJ at August 22, 2012 12:20 PM (TR60b)

333 it's ok our convention is first. We will be the adults and they'll be a bunch of menstrating college professors talking about male privilige and other busslhit

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at August 22, 2012 12:20 PM (QxSug)

334 And what I don't understand is why Paul Ryan doesn't just answer. The MSM has been telling numerous lies about H.R. 3 for some time and having a public debate over Smith and Lipinski's intentions regarding the initial usage of the term is unhelpful. http://bit.ly/QTs8gc

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 22, 2012 12:20 PM (YjDyJ)

335 297 ds, Now we should be nice, and just offhandedly mention the 3 words, " obama, linen, closet" and smile grimly.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 12:20 PM (LRFds)

336 I read in a magazine once that all men are potential rapist and that us women need to be alert at all times. I have experienced men staring at me and got that creepy feeling. I hope President Obama in his next term does something about this .....

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro,Vt at August 22, 2012 04:14 PM (48wze)

 

 

----------------------------------------------------

 

 

Bless your heart, Mary.  I've seen you.  You have absolutely nothing to worry about.

Posted by: Soona at August 22, 2012 12:20 PM (dPkOm)

337

310 -

 

Haha!  I love you, Mary... please don't turn out to be some fat guy. 

Posted by: BurtTC at August 22, 2012 12:20 PM (TOk1P)

338 Vince - "And many Democrats were slain in Charlotte that day.  For Gozer the Traveler appeared in the form of a giant vagina dentata.  Strangely some ran towards their slayer and judge with pure glee.  They were still slain."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2012 12:21 PM (fU0YZ)

339 317 There was a bizarre case (sorry if this was covered already, I'm coming in cold after 300+ comments) of the McDonalds employee who had been tricked into stripping and then somehow performing oral sex, I think, on someone who was on the phone, claiming to be with the security company that monitors their video feed.

I remember seeing it on one of those investigative shows a few years ago, and apparently this poor, ignorant female just went along with it because the authority figure on the phone was so convincing.

Yeah, that would qualify was rape or sodomy or whatever the legal term would be, depending on the act.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 22, 2012 04:16 PM (TOk1P)



A movie called Compliance just came out recently about it.  It was a corrections officer pretending to be a detective.  He would call McDonalds and tell the manager he had reason to suspect an employee was stealing money.  Then he would see how far he could get the monitor to go in terms of questioning and searching the girl; Going through her purse, checking her pockets, making them strip search, and one time even having a male perform a cavity search on a woman.

Posted by: Adam at August 22, 2012 12:21 PM (/YJYi)

340 It's Springtime for Barry and abortion That's it, really.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 22, 2012 12:21 PM (G/zuv)

341 Posted by: jimi ray at August 22, 2012 04:11 PM (79EF9)

I hear ya, i go out of my way to defend Christians because there's so much bigotry directed at them, but i cringe whenever i see someone trying to make a political point with "Jesus says", they just don't get that "Jesus says" is not a valid political argument.

Posted by: booger at August 22, 2012 12:21 PM (HI6wa)

342 @305 trust me, i don't think abortion should be a major issue in this election at all. unfortunately, the tenor of the conversations this weekend being had in political venues in just about every locus on the opinion spectrum doesn't portend well for the amercan voter's ability to stay focussed on the economy when Really Stupid Shit comes up. :/ to the christians who took offence and responded with vulgar name-calling: gawd, you're such good examples of christ-like behaviour!!!!!11!one! i'm just *baffled* by my inability to take your hypocritical judgment-club seriously! /rolleyes

Posted by: jimi ray at August 22, 2012 12:21 PM (79EF9)

343 And i hate to say it, but i think many more people would identify as pro-life if it weren't synonymous with Christians.

Posted by: booger at August 22, 2012 12:22 PM (HI6wa)

344 Is Charlie Rangel going to be giving his usual talk at the Democratic convention on Taxes and how to avoid them?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2012 12:22 PM (j1gX1)

345

Several years ago our office had a case in which this guy convinced a number of underage girls that he was a space alien.  He had some story I don't quite remember but it was something like if they performed oral sex on him they would get super powers.

 

It's a strange world.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 22, 2012 12:22 PM (XUKZU)

346

Beyonce raped me!

 

Well... she clearly tricked me into wanting to have sex with her.

 

That's rape. I could get pregnant from that shit, according to Todd Akin.

Posted by: entropy at August 22, 2012 12:22 PM (TULs6)

347 Cool. Will there be a speech about having sex with the dead wives?

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 22, 2012 04:19 PM (Qzk6N)

 

 

------------------------------------------

 

 

It'll be included in the SCOAMT's nomination acceptance speech.

Posted by: Soona at August 22, 2012 12:24 PM (dPkOm)

348 Romney's team was pretty fast on the roof-dog vs eatted-dog (sic).  I assume they'll now be putting together some adds reminding people that Obama doesn't want his daughters to be penalized with a mistake (pregnancy).

Oh, and btw, the economy still sucks.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at August 22, 2012 12:24 PM (X/+QT)

349 >>>just so they can get him on tape talking about rape.

Not just talking about it, parsing it into different types of rape. Remember Akin used the term "legitimate" to qualify rape. They want to get Ryan placing different forms of Rape (Statutory vs Forcible) into different categories on camera. Not just to get a soundbyte of him saying "rape" so they can meld the words "Legitimate Rape" right next to Ryan parsing out different kinds of rape, and hand the footage cart blanche to Obama.

A pure trap, and Ryan was absolutely 100% in the right for declining the invitation to step in it. So the best they can do now is huff and puff about how Ryan won't step in their trap.

Whaaaaaa! He's competent Whaaaaa! When the fish don't bite,  ridiculing the fish is a good way to hide your a lousy angler.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 22, 2012 12:24 PM (0q2P7)

350 "114 Shit,if it's rape to get laid by lying than every moron is probably a multiple racist.Hell,every man! Posted by: steevy" Um, "I'll respect you in the morning." "I love you." "My wife and I have an understanding." "I'm not dating anyone else." "I'm a doctor." "I'm a pilot." "I'll call you again." "You're beautiful." "You could be a model." There's not going to be enough prison space for all those rapists.

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 22, 2012 12:24 PM (Qzk6N)

351 Grow some damm balls. Well, all science and ethics.point to abortion being wrong, but.I don't want people to think that I'm one of those yucky Christians!

Posted by: Lauren at August 22, 2012 12:25 PM (wsGWu)

352 Oh right, the dog. 3-days of "there is no legitimate rape, Mr. Romey, and take your dog off of the car roof, Mr. Romney" God, and here I was, worried that the DNC would be on message.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at August 22, 2012 12:26 PM (QxSug)

353

It's not 'Seduction', Ace.

It's 'Witchcraft'.

Posted by: Zombie Sinatra at August 22, 2012 12:26 PM (dZMkH)

354 Oh a couple more: "Your roommate and my friend are having sex in the other room, so we may as well." "My wife doesn't understand me." " It isn't healthy for a man to not have sex."

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 22, 2012 12:26 PM (Qzk6N)

355 I'm sorry, I've forgotten: is it Dworkin, or MacKinnon, who teaches that all sex is rape? It's primarily Dworkin but MacKinnon trods very close to that line.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 22, 2012 12:26 PM (VtjlW)

356 @ 294 Christianity getting with the program? Um, much like the Constitution, the Bible was meant to be inflexible in it's message. Only false prophets would preach otherwise.

Posted by: ErikW at August 22, 2012 12:26 PM (j7/E9)

357 WalrusRex, sounds like your office guy read the Wild Card series created by George R.R. Martin.  One story had an Ace who could grant other people the ability to swap bodies if they had sex with him.  That Ace's sexual conquests became a major thorn in the side of all law and order types - just think on it here you are just a person with no super powers, have strange sex, and then you can jump into the body of a Super hero and then totally let loose being evil.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2012 12:26 PM (fU0YZ)

358 Maybe if the birthers would ask Barryo to release his rape certificate they'd have better luck.

Posted by: ginni rae at August 22, 2012 12:26 PM (PcoXF)

359

Posted by: jimi ray at August 22, 2012 04:21 PM (79EF9)

 

 

------------------------------------

 

 

Bless your heart.  You sound so concerned. 

Posted by: Soona at August 22, 2012 12:26 PM (dPkOm)

360 Beyonce raped me! Buying a ticket would be rape enough.

Posted by: toby928© at August 22, 2012 12:26 PM (QupBk)

361 5012 signatures so far!

Posted by: Still Standing with Todd Akin at August 22, 2012 12:26 PM (zrpqj)

362 "I'll call you again."
"You're beautiful."
"You could be a model."

There's not going to be enough prison space for all those rapists.>>

No that dress does not make your ass look fat.

Though that one may be considered entrapment.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 22, 2012 12:26 PM (tf9Ne)

363

Then he would see how far he could get the monitor to go in terms of questioning and searching the girl; Going through her purse, checking her pockets, making them strip search, and one time even having a male perform a cavity search on a woman.

 

McDonalds employees aren't exactly known to be rocket surgeons or brain scientists but ain't that a trip?

 

Just calling up and saying "I'm a cop, and I hereby deputize you to sexually assault this chick in the name of the law" got them to go along with it, including the victim.

 

You'd think someone would realize "this is fucking insane" and tell him to get bent. She just went along with it.

Posted by: entropy at August 22, 2012 12:26 PM (TULs6)

364 @356: Seriously, the rebuttal every night could just be that chart showing Obama's projections for unemployment with and without the stimulus vs. reality.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 22, 2012 12:27 PM (B/VB5)

365 Looks like Obama is in trouble with Hispanics. This from the SurveyUSA poll: he new SurveyUSA poll showed Obama and Romney dividing the Hispanic vote 48 percent for the president and 47 percent for the former Massachusetts governor - a result even the pollster questioned. In June, a Latino Decisions poll showed Obama leading Romney among Hispanics, 69 percent to 20 percent. "We were surprised by the Hispanic result, too," Leve said, adding it's difficult to accurately survey Latinos. "It raised some eyebrows, but that is a snapshot and that is what we see." Pair that with this from a poll conducted by Telemundo which has this bit of information that won't be in the headlines: Just 61 percent of Latinos indicated a high level of enthusiasm in the upcoming election (registering an “8,” “9” or “10” on a 10-point scale). That’s 20 points below the average of 81 percent of all voters. And almost 20 points below 2008 levels for Latinos at about the same time before the election. ________________ In Nevada they are wondering why they found those results--well a lot of Hispanics own small businesses. That's your answer.

Posted by: tasker at August 22, 2012 12:27 PM (r2PLg)

366 He had some story I don't quite remember but it was something like if they performed oral sex on him they would get super powers.

It's a strange world.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 22, 2012 04:22 PM (XUKZU)



Nothing strange about it. 

With Lolo, I learned how to eat small green chili peppers raw with dinner (plenty of rice), and, away from the dinner table, I was introduced to oral sex with dogs (tough and dangerous), sucking snake dicks (tougher but not as dangerous), and blowing roasted grasshoppers (crunchy). Like many Indonesians, Lolo followed a brand of Islam that could make room for the more ancient animist and Hindu faiths. He explained that a man took on the super powers of whatever he had oral sex with: One day soon, he promised, he would bring home a piece of alien dick for us to share. ThatÂ’s how things were, one long adventure, the bounty of a young boyÂ’s life. ...

Posted by: King Emperor Admiral Barky at August 22, 2012 12:27 PM (X3lox)

367 have strange sex, and then you can jump into the body of a Super hero and then totally let loose being evil. Go on.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 22, 2012 12:28 PM (VtjlW)

368 Frank Sinatra? Never heard of him

Posted by: Charles Gibson at August 22, 2012 12:28 PM (B/yDO)

369 346 jimi ray, You're a daisy...

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 12:28 PM (LRFds)

370 The SurveyUSA poll was for Nevada, the Telemundo poll is national.

Posted by: tasker at August 22, 2012 12:28 PM (r2PLg)

371 Egypt's Morsi to visit US in September President will make his first trip to US since taking power in June Reuters Published: 08.22.12, 16:43 / Israel News Egypt's President Mohammed Morsi will visit the United States on September 23, making his first trip there since taking power in June, the presidential spokesman said on Wednesday. There's and RNC commercial right there

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2012 12:28 PM (j1gX1)

372 @347 Well, 77% of the US population is Christian. Roughly half the population is pro-life. So...you're totally wrong.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 22, 2012 12:28 PM (uhAkr)

373 Stephanie Cutter = wallflower

Posted by: Not and Artist at August 22, 2012 12:28 PM (uRumV)

374 @345 in the academy, i'm kind of "notorious" for my defences of "faith-based" philosophies. i often go out of my way to remind my colleagues that there is no actual contradiction between faith in god and modern scientific knowledge, even though i don't believe myself. i also often troll my colleagues about the measure of faith that is required of their absolute atheism being just as substantive as the measure of faith required for belief in god...just without 4000+ years of human wisdom to fall back upon. still, i don't cotton to any spiritual faith myself, and in large part, that's because i find most religious people to be distastefully judgmental (and nevertheless insufferably convinced of their own goodness). my fiancé is a pretty serious christian, and if we were ever to have kids, we'd raise them in the christian faith...but we'd certainly raise them to respect science, too. i know for a FACT that men of faith can be rational thinkers and can accept the advances of modern science. i know also, unfortunately, that the sort of visceral antipathy a lot of christians feel for modern science is getting in the way of their scientific aptitude. i don't really care what people believe behind closed church doors. when it starts affecting me politically, i believe i have a right to speak out against the wilfull ignorance of a community that refuses to accept established fact just because "it's science, not scripture".

Posted by: jimi ray at August 22, 2012 12:28 PM (79EF9)

375 >>>if it's rape to get laid by lying

It was confined specifically to a promise to marry. You could presumably tell other lies and be fine.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 22, 2012 12:28 PM (0q2P7)

376 What's that movie where no one knows what a lie is?

Posted by: toby928© at August 22, 2012 12:29 PM (QupBk)

377

Akin 'may' have done the Repubs a GOOD service....

 

On the day we lost our 2000th Serviceman in Afganistan, ALL the media talked about was one really loony Republican...

 

And the Electorate sees it... heck.... even some of the MSM have looked down... and seen the Shark they are jumping...

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 22, 2012 12:29 PM (lZBBB)

378 So you oppose abortion then, right.Jimi ray? The science couldn't be more clear that a new, unique human life is formed at conception.

Posted by: Lauren at August 22, 2012 12:30 PM (wsGWu)

379 my fiancé is a pretty serious christian, and if we were ever to have kids, we'd raise them in the christian faith...but we'd certainly raise them to respect science, too. Fuck you. Seriously. I'm an evangelical Christian socon and I have never said or done anything "anti-science" in my life. Certainly nothing on the scale of the frauds that atheist liberals have perpetrated with DDR, Alar, the ozone hole, and global warming.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 22, 2012 12:30 PM (B/VB5)

380 Sorry Alexthechick, that is all I can remember immediately.  Besides never collected all the Wild Card books.  Just when the war between all that is right in the world, which included Dan Quayle, and the other side those body jumpers were a major force for mischief and evil.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2012 12:30 PM (fU0YZ)

381 What about "just the tip" rape?  Or is that seduction?

Here, have another cocktail.

Posted by: Fritz at August 22, 2012 12:30 PM (RuVpG)

382 Train time at Sandra's hotel after, and I wanna be the caboose!  wooo-wooo

Posted by: Joey Choo-Choo Biden at August 22, 2012 12:31 PM (wAQA5)

383 Chloroform: The Quicker Picker Upper.

Posted by: toby928© at August 22, 2012 12:32 PM (QupBk)

384

Stephanie's Cutter =  brownflower

 

Posted by: Zombie Sinatra at August 22, 2012 12:32 PM (dZMkH)

385 to be serious, many of the more radical feminists (eg, McKinnon and Dworkin) pushed the idea that all heterosexual intercourse is a kind of rape, because women are an oppressed class in America and therefor are unable to give consent. It naturally follows that women must have a right to abortion under all circumstances and at someone else's expense in order to end all those pregnancies that result from all those rapes (otherwise,  men will get women pregnant in order to force women to depend on men for survival, which is why we need all those other government programs for unmarried mothers.)
Makes sense if you have your head up the left side of your butt.

Posted by: mallfly at August 22, 2012 12:32 PM (bJm7W)

386 "What's that movie where no one knows what a lie is?"

The War Room

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_Room

Posted by: Charles Gibson at August 22, 2012 12:32 PM (B/yDO)

387 my fiancé is a pretty serious christian, and if we were ever to have kids, we'd raise them in the christian faith...but we'd certainly raise them to respect science, too.

The Big Bang Theory of the origin of the universe was conceived by the Catholic priest George LeMaitre while he was science advisor to the Vatican.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 22, 2012 12:32 PM (X3lox)

388

still, i don't cotton to any spiritual faith myself, and in large part, that's because i find most religious people to be distastefully judgmental (and nevertheless insufferably convinced of their own goodness)

 

Hilarious

Posted by: buzzion at August 22, 2012 12:32 PM (GULKT)

389

Pat Robertson has come out for ending the drug war at least.

Posted by: entropy at August 22, 2012 12:33 PM (TULs6)

390 >>>still, i don't cotton to any spiritual faith myself, and in large part, that's because i find most religious people to be distastefully judgmental

The philosophical purpose behind the exploration of faith is the establishment of an absolute morality. Yes that can lead to judgementalism, however the alternative 100% rational "Everyone follows rules except for me when no one's looking" conclusion of relative morality is much much less desirable.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 22, 2012 12:33 PM (0q2P7)

391 Hilarious Yeah. Irony is a family value.

Posted by: toby928© at August 22, 2012 12:34 PM (QupBk)

392 Posted by: Ian S. at August 22, 2012 04:30 PM (B/VB5) Really depends on the church. I've been in Young Earth churches, as well as churches where they don't care, such as my current one. I just politely smile and change the subject if another member disagrees. But for atheists it's their only tenants of faith, so it's SUPER IMPORTANT to belittle people.

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 22, 2012 12:34 PM (MrM2k)

393 Once the concept of science, quest for knowledge on how things work, is divorced from any moral framework, then atrocities will happen.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2012 12:34 PM (fU0YZ)

394

"No that dress does not make your ass look fat.

Though that one may be considered entrapment."

 

Some of us consider that dress "entrapment."

Posted by: a fat ass at August 22, 2012 12:34 PM (F26eZ)

395 >> There are lots of varieties of rape-by-trickery, including slipping into a woman's bed, counting on her to mistake you for her husband. (This really happens.)

Or her Alpha Beta boyfriend.

Hyuh, hyuh, hyuh, hyuh!!!

Posted by: Lewis Skolnik, Adams Tri-Lam Prez. '84 at August 22, 2012 12:34 PM (5Rurq)

396 I don't cotton to.... Bless your heart!

Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at August 22, 2012 12:34 PM (wcDoh)

397 @297 story can not be repeated enough as the first major political stand of one Barry Soetero.

Posted by: Shiggz Roketsturgeon at August 22, 2012 12:34 PM (RfvTE)

398

The Big Bang Theory of the origin of the universe

 

Is a very fancy way of saying "let there be light".

Posted by: entropy at August 22, 2012 12:34 PM (TULs6)

399 That dem who hooked up with a 17 year old boy for some dick suckin' is NOT dropping out of the race...

http://tinyurl.com/8lretoe

I'll take our loser over this loser.  But I wish ours was only in a state house.

Posted by: Dang at August 22, 2012 12:35 PM (Ky1+e)

400 Egypt's President Mohammed Morsi will visit the United States on September 23... Who wants to bet leftnuts that Obama will make sure that all the women involved in the meeting (if any are allowed) will follow all Muslim protocols?

Posted by: soothsayer at August 22, 2012 12:35 PM (G/zuv)

401 to the christians who took offence and responded with vulgar name-calling: gawd, you're such good examples of christ-like behaviour!!!!!11!one! i'm just *baffled* by my inability to take your hypocritical judgment-club seriously! /rolleyes

Posted by: jimi ray at August 22, 2012 04:21 PM (79EF9)

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O/T, but, did the Brady Campaign ever figure out a way to accept a donation from your EBT card?


Posted by: Hagbard Celine at August 22, 2012 12:36 PM (+/VIS)

402 Ill be honest, if they gave Joe Biden the podium for 6 straight hours I would watch every second of it and record it for posterity.

Posted by: Shiggz Roketsturgeon at August 22, 2012 12:36 PM (RfvTE)

403 Omg just saw the "rape ape" holy cow spit my water out

Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at August 22, 2012 12:36 PM (wcDoh)

404 The Big Bang Theory of the origin of the universe was conceived by the Catholic priest George LeMaitre while he was science advisor to the Vatican.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair

I did not know that.

Posted by: Dang at August 22, 2012 12:37 PM (Ky1+e)

405 @378 Wow, you're like a Paladin for the faith. Is there a place we can send you money? It's an odd thing about lefty trolls - they're always inventing credentials in an effort to be taken seriously.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 22, 2012 12:37 PM (uhAkr)

406 "What's that movie where no one knows what a lie is?" __________________ I Still Believe in a Place Called Hope.

Posted by: tasker at August 22, 2012 12:37 PM (r2PLg)

407 There was a case a few years ago where a Palestinian dude was convicted of raping an israeli in a stairway, because he didn't tell her he was palestinian.

Posted by: lorien1973 at August 22, 2012 12:37 PM (0tkqC)

408 Sinatra did it his way.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at August 22, 2012 12:37 PM (VkVfl)

409 Whaaaaaa! He's competent Whaaaaa! When the fish don't bite, ridiculing the fish is a good way to hide your a lousy angler.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 22, 2012 04:24 PM (0q2P7)

 

OK that's a good one

Posted by: The Jackhole at August 22, 2012 12:37 PM (nTgAI)

410

Aww, for the love of Pete.

 

We're going all Science VS.  Religion  on here now?

 

Science looks at how.  Religion looks at why.  They don't answer the same question.

 

Bless your hearts...

Posted by: reason at August 22, 2012 12:37 PM (F26eZ)

411 Congrats, jimi ray, you just showed your ass. To claim that you plan to raise your child as a Christian and then to teach the child to respect science as well shows that you're either completely full of shit or that you are just as much of an obnoxious, worthless academic that is everything wrong with our public education system. Dear lord you people are dangerous lunatics.

Posted by: ErikW at August 22, 2012 12:37 PM (j7/E9)

412

Posted by: soothsayer at August 22, 2012 04:35 PM (G/zuv)

 

He's just coming to pick up the check, before the elections... cause he knows Romney aint gonna pony up the big bucks.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 22, 2012 12:37 PM (lZBBB)

413 i get that Pat Robertson and the like aren't (or should i say weren't -- it's not like he's speaking at Republican conventions these days) exactly the best face but come on. of course people that believe in souls and don't want to slice and dice when abortion is permissible based on how conscious the baby is are going to care more about this issue than non-religious people.

Posted by: JParker at August 22, 2012 04:29 PM (60GaT)

 

 

--------------------------------------------

 

 

To aetheists, all an unborn baby is is an unviable tissue mass.

Posted by: Soona at August 22, 2012 12:38 PM (dPkOm)

414 The only thing missing here to complete the picture would be OWS in all their glory....

Posted by: Batnratz at August 22, 2012 12:38 PM (QFAFF)

415

 "There actually are such cases; for example, doctors have told women that in order to examine them they'd have to probe them with their penises"

**

Paging Dr. Mandingo...DR. MANDINGO...

Posted by: S. Flook at August 22, 2012 12:38 PM (eavT+)

416 What's that movie where no one knows what a lie is?" ___________________ An Inconvenient Truth. (and new thread, old subject.)

Posted by: tasker at August 22, 2012 12:38 PM (r2PLg)

417 Remember the science and religion threads at little green whatever? Good times!

Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at August 22, 2012 12:39 PM (wcDoh)

418 Jimi Ray?

Posted by: Lauren at August 22, 2012 12:39 PM (wsGWu)

419 If I win the lottery I might have to attend this convention -
http://youtu.be/X_Q-KFZcRlY

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2012 12:39 PM (fU0YZ)

420 BETTENDORF, Iowa – Mitt Romney bounded into the battleground state of Iowa today, aided by a new, non-partisan government report that painted a grim picture of the state of the economy, using the new data to return his campaign’s narrative to his favorite catch phrase: the Obama economy isn’t working.

The government report, released today by the Congressional Budget Office, estimated a $1.1 trillion deficit for 2012, and said that if the tax and spending cuts go through as planned in January that “such fiscal tightening will lead to economic conditions in 2013 that will probably be considered a recession.”

The report also predicted that the countryÂ’s unemployment rate would remain above 8 percent for the rest of the year.




Nobody wants to talk about economics when the there are important issues like abortion and Sandy Fluke. Over 8% for the rest of the year. Damn, Barry just might not be around to see that economic recovery that's just around the corner


Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 22, 2012 12:39 PM (1Jaio)

421 LOP PG. lets not invoke those horrid flashbacks.  Let Cheeto Chuckie molder in oblivion.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2012 12:40 PM (fU0YZ)

422 There's a reason they are called "love children", idiots!!!

Posted by: Todd Akin at August 22, 2012 12:40 PM (MrM2k)

423 The Big Bang Theory of the origin of the universe

Is a very fancy way of saying "let there be light".

Posted by: entropy at August 22, 2012 04:34 PM (TULs6)



True.  LeMaitre arrived at the theory mathematically but was very happy that it was Biblically consistent in form.  Of course, Einstein expressed the same idea when he said that G-d doesn't play dice with the universe.  Einstein believed in the idea of the ultimate perfection of the universe, which is tantamount to traditional Western notions of G-d, save some of the accoutrements of formal religions.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 22, 2012 12:40 PM (X3lox)

424 428 All I gotta do is some number-crunching and treat the country like an economic spreadsheet. That'll rally the troops!

Posted by: Artificial Fiscon and SoCon Split at August 22, 2012 04:39 PM (60GaT)

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Works for me ass-wipe, whats Barky's plan?

Posted by: S. Flook at August 22, 2012 12:41 PM (eavT+)

425

WalrusRex, sounds like your office guy read the Wild Card series created by George R.R. Martin

 

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I've always said that literacy is dangerous.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 22, 2012 12:42 PM (XUKZU)

426 latest transmission from Cocksucker One, formerly Moonbat One: Subject: Big news on voter ID laws [redacted], last week a judge upheld the new voter ID law in Pennsylvania. This is the law that the Pennsylvania House Republican leader said "is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania" because it potentially disenfranchises 750,000 voters. Well, that's what he thinks. A huge coalition of 100+ labor and civil rights groups has come together to do the door knocking, phone banking and voter education necessary to make sure everyone in this must-win swing state can still cast a ballot. At Daily Kos, we're helping out by running online ads in Pennsylvania to sign up more than 1,000 volunteers so that this coalition has the people power it needs. Please, click here to contribute $5 to Daily Kos so that we can sign up the thousands of volunteers needed to overcome Pennsylvania's voter ID law. To get a sense of how blatant an attempt at voter suppression this voter ID law is, the Pennsylvania Department of Transportation will not extend business hours or hire new staff to assist the nearly one million people who now need IDs in order to vote. Further, the contract to educate Pennsylvania voters about the law went to a public relations firm with deep ties to the Republican Party. To stop this, we need to get thousands of volunteers on the ground working with an experienced coalition that knows how to get voters to the polls and in compliance with the new law. We can do it, but we need your help. Please click here to contribute $5 to Daily Kos so we can run online ads to sign up thousands of volunteers in order to make sure everyone in Pennsylvania can still vote. Keep fighting, Chris Cocksucker Bowers Campaign Director, Daily Kos

Posted by: soothsayer at August 22, 2012 12:42 PM (G/zuv)

427 Oooh...was a rather fortunate Fluke sock.

Posted by: dananjcon at August 22, 2012 12:43 PM (eavT+)

428 Meh, I wouldn't draw too much out of parallels from biblical creation, although there are some. Genesis isn't a scientific document, never was meant to be. Sense of "history" wasn't even once it once was.

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 22, 2012 12:43 PM (MrM2k)

429 378 jimi ray, The faith controls my hand, science controls the mind.... So you're a genius at the academy eh?

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 12:43 PM (LRFds)

430 145

Wasn't it Illinois that wanted to define rape as when a woman changed her mind about consent at any point, up to and include while the guy was in her? So you could go to bed with a woman, get consent, slip it in her, be jackhammering away and if she said "hey no changed my mind" and you didn't instantly pull out and leap to the other side of the room, it was rape.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 22, 2012 03:49 PM (VtjlW)

"jackhammering away"? Does that type of activity require a hard hat and OSHA inspection?

Posted by: Slappy at August 22, 2012 12:43 PM (LTbLf)

431 To claim that you plan to raise your child as a Christian and then to teach the child to respect science as well shows that you're either completely full of shit or that you are just as much of an obnoxious, worthless academic that is everything wrong with our public education system.

Dear lord you people are dangerous lunatics.

Posted by: ErikW at August 22, 2012 04:37 PM (j7/E9)

 

 

-----------------------------------------------

 

 

Not so fast, ErikW.  I  can also  equate  scientific reality to God.  It's quite easy.  As I see it, all science is is God revealing his creation to us.  The two are extremely compatible. 

Posted by: Soona at August 22, 2012 12:44 PM (dPkOm)

432 I guess I must be the only person alive today who watched the William Kennedy Smith trial back when Court TV broadcast it.  Uh, the liberal Left has been redefining "rape" for a generation to mean anything any particular woman decides it means. From drunk sex, to "he didn't bring me a donut the next morning", to "my name is NOT Susan", or whatever the hell Smith called What's-Her-Name after sex on the beach, to "ok, it's been a week and he still hasn't called so I must have been raped that night I begged him to fuck me".

Posted by: Jaynie59 at August 22, 2012 12:44 PM (4zKCA)

433 Jason's right. The GOP can't win on moral issues.

Posted by: planned parenthood secretly doing abortions for 14-year-old stat rape victims at August 22, 2012 12:46 PM (vDl/w)

434 i'm just *baffled* by my inability to take your
hypocritical judgment-club seriously!

Right absolutely correct. All Christians are hypocrites, we all are really. But without a good dose of that publicly shaming others for not even aspiring to have better morality they have kept Western Civilization would have burned 2K years ago.

I love folks like you (Bless your heart) who think that someone calling an alert to a shameless lack morality is completely baseless because of some inevitable shameful imperfection they might have. It nullifies any capability to meaningfully discuss morality from an absolute sense. It is ironically, aloof self riotousness "Look how judgmental those people are!!! Snicker Snicker!" criticizing the aloof self riotous who are themselves sinners criticizing sinners.

The irony. Ohhh the irony.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 22, 2012 12:46 PM (0q2P7)

435 I read a book about Howard Hughes that indicated he was guilty of this third type of rape.  It described how his house safe was broken-into and the contents included love letters, papers, and nice engagement rings.  Hughes apparently liked to cruise for debutantes, and their mothers were more than willing to offer up their progeny if Hughes kept up appearances with professions of interest in marriage.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 22, 2012 12:46 PM (4QSOR)

436 Meh.  Don't really find any of these women attractive enough.  Except Eva maybe.  But even then I'd have to wear a condom.

Posted by: serial rapist just paroled at August 22, 2012 12:48 PM (wAQA5)

437 Free me!

Posted by: Julian Assuange at August 22, 2012 12:48 PM (z9HTb)

438 That was my point, Soona. The fact this idiot felt it necessary to separate the two and treat one above the other is what ticked me off. I'm in complete agreement with you.

Posted by: ErikW at August 22, 2012 12:48 PM (j7/E9)

439 So Obama is going to run on expanding his enemies list to include the unborn. I smell a winner!

Posted by: RWC at August 22, 2012 12:49 PM (fWAjv)

440

375 -

 

Morsi  is coming to the U.S?  Is he going to do any of the old Smiths songs?  I loved the Smiths... but not in a gay way.  And yes I'm going to use that joke EVERY time Morsi's name gets mentioned. 

Posted by: BurtTC at August 22, 2012 12:50 PM (TOk1P)

441

If the Code Pink Vaginas show up in Tampa, they should be ready in the street with hoses & signs saying 'Code Stink - Clean it Up'.  Or perhaps Janitor in a Drum?

Posted by: Cheri at August 22, 2012 12:52 PM (G+Wff)

442 409 Ill be honest, if they gave Joe Biden the podium for 6 straight hours I would watch every second of it and record it for posterity.

Posted by: Shiggz Roketsturgeon at August 22, 2012 04:36 PM (RfvTE)

Think about the cool "Biden" drinking game everyone could play. Every single time Biden says "literally," take a drink. When he flashes his pearly whites to punctuate one of his idiotic statements to pretend he said something profound, take a drink. When he loses his train of thought and says something factually false but it would really help his point of view if it were actually true, take a drink.

98% of viewers playing the game would be hammered within the first 45 minutes.

Posted by: Slappy at August 22, 2012 12:52 PM (LTbLf)

443 Chris Cocksucker Bowers
Campaign Director, Daily Kos

Posted by: soothsayer at August 22, 2012 04:42 PM (G/zuv)

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VOTER SUPPRESSION!!11!! DISENFRANCHISED!!11!!

***

 

What do they say about the 14milliion "undocumented" young people Barky just waived on in?? How does that affect my voting rights??     

Posted by: dananjcon at August 22, 2012 12:52 PM (eavT+)

444 I thought that the Gosnell case would have been a much bigger deal than it is with the pro-life side. Insetad, nobody knows who he is or what he did. The coverage of the case has been expectedly non-existant in the MFM.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at August 22, 2012 12:53 PM (YmPwQ)

445 Morsi is coming to the U.S? Is he going to do any of the old Smiths songs? I loved the Smiths... but not in a gay way. And yes I'm going to use that joke EVERY time Morsi's name gets mentioned.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 22, 2012 04:50 PM (TOk1P)


He's gonna do "Light my Fire."

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at August 22, 2012 12:58 PM (PcoXF)

446 I did not know that.

Posted by: Dang at August 22, 2012 04:37 PM (Ky1+e)



I don't want to lead you astray.  I might have been mistaken in saying that he was science advisor to the Vatican at the time.  He might have become their science advisor afterwards - 1936 or so.  I'm not clear on that part of the timeline.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 22, 2012 12:58 PM (X3lox)

447 @383 from purely biological and libertarian standpoints, yes, in fact, i appose abortion. i don't believe in souls or anything mystical/magical like that. i do believe that the right to life must necessarily be presupposed for any other "rights" to even be rationally considered. i further believe that the value of a life does not lie in its viability or immediate productivity, but in the fascinating miracle of its development (and, more abstractly in the case of humans, its social potential). furthermore, i believe in personal responsibility, and especially in cases of sexual indiscretion, i have a hard time accepting the validity of "but i just wasn't ready for a baby" arguments for discretionary abortion. nevertheless, the science is also pretty clear that early-term foetuses do not feel pain and are obviously not cognisant of the full ramifications of their abortions. it would seem that in some cases, it may not be appropriate to cause, for example, a raped mother to carry the child of her rapist to term. the world sucks, and shitty things happen. sometimes, there are really bad consequences. i'm not so certain that we should punish a mother -- and yes, it IS an extreme psychological punishment for some mothers to have to carry the child of their rapist to term -- for being raped. this isn't -- thank god!! -- an islamic theocracy. the baby of two unwanted parents TYPICALLY has a troubled life, to boot, so we may be punishing the child, as well, by forcing the mother to carry it to term in such instances. i am wary of such arguments, however, because i recognise the rather widespread applicability of "unwanted children" arguments in the abortion debate. now, if the mother puts more value in carrying the child to term, even when she is raped, good for her! but not all women are that strong! some women's psychologies are such that they simply cannot abide by such a "punishment" -- and, of course, mother's psychological stress has terrible implications for NGF epigenetics in her developing baby. still, i consider myself pro-life. i appose "abortion on demand"; i oppose abortion as retroactive contraception. and no, it didn't require "association with christianity', in my case...i was pro-choice until i was an undergraduate in bioengineering. science. ♥

Posted by: jimi ray at August 22, 2012 01:05 PM (79EF9)

448 @452 A lot of religious conservatives are just recently waking up and realizing how much less power they hold, then they thought they did.  Those types who thought reelecting Bush would somehow reverse say gay marriage. 

IMO the Tea Party and Chick Fil support was an example of those at the head of the class now realizing they actually have more influence then they supposed, if they are willing to get their hands greasy

People who are busy with life can often miss obvious stuff for years at a time.  Unless Romney screws everyone over and the economy returns to lukewarm I dont think any of these middle class religious Ents are going back into hibernation for 4-12 years.

Posted by: Shiggz Roketsturgeon at August 22, 2012 01:12 PM (RfvTE)

449 Heather I'm sure there isn't a single soul here that hates you. Well, unless it's some troll or other. I'm sure it was an honest mistake.

Posted by: teej at August 22, 2012 01:13 PM (cWpCn)

450 @ 455 What creeps me out about people like you is that you actually have to take classes to further reinforce your atheistic beliefs on life where as for mine and many like me, it just comes naturally. Science and its advancement is an amazing and wonderful thing but to base a belief in life and the ethics thereof is dangerous and unnatural.

Posted by: Dusty Bottoms at August 22, 2012 01:20 PM (j7/E9)

451 Off dusty sock.

Posted by: ErikW at August 22, 2012 01:22 PM (j7/E9)

452 Forcible rape? Never heard of it.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at August 22, 2012 01:29 PM (nfb7z)

453 Let me see you Rethuglicans adopt one of those ugly Black babies. 

Posted by: Democrat Pre-Partum Baby Killer at August 22, 2012 01:37 PM (nfb7z)

454 @458 yeah, being told everything you are supposed to believe about ethics by some guy in a pulpit who is simply building on the thousands of years of humans poking around in the dark till we get it right is sooooo much more "natural" than actually investigating things as they are to try to develop a logical reason for doing things a certain way. i said i wasn't atheist. i actually believe in some sort of god; the current cosomological model (big bang) requires a Prima Causa, and anyway at some point along finite regression of "creation", causality itself, that most important of First Principles, requires some sort of creator that doesn't have to obey the laws of THIS physics. atheism requires the same sort of unprovable assumptions that religion requires, and i'm not huge on faith in ANYTHING besides my super-awesome boyf who rescued me from abject social isolation. anyway, all ethics are subjective. i don't care what kind of magical man in the sky you believe in; all ethics are STILL subjective, and that's why official ecclesiastical interpretations of the scriptures are changed every so often...in order that they better reflect modern sensibilities and modern SUBJECTIVE thought. it's not a hard leap to make: even if god is perfect and has perfect, absolute morality, humans are not perfect, and must interpret all of the wisdom god has passed down to them through the subjective filter of their own psychologies. your ethics comes from what someone else tells you; my ethics comes from actually observing NATURE. which is more natural? sorry that intellectual curiosity "creeps you out". honestly, the ill-historied ramifications of group-think should probably make you a lot more scared of sheeple (i.e., those who unquestioningly believe what others tell them and call it "natural") than anyone who likes to question "but why?"!

Posted by: jimi ray at August 22, 2012 01:41 PM (79EF9)

455 Man, these self-absorbed cumdumpsters really love their no-questions-asked baby butchering.  And they're so cocooned that they think that everyone else is just as enamored with the practice as the ghoulish infanticide enthusiast in the White House.

Please Dems.  By all means, please run on a platform of perpetual economic misery and proactive assassination of anyone with the potential to suffer it with the rest of us.

Obama/Drooling Retard 2012 -- because humanity will soon be extinct  anyway

Posted by: VJay at August 22, 2012 01:55 PM (q5NFp)

456 The Big Bang Theory of the origin of the universe

Is a very fancy way of saying "let there be light".

That's just brilliant.  I've never been able to smack down smarmy militant atheists that succinctly.  If your cosmology begins and ends with The Big Bang, you are tacitly filling in all the prerequisite blanks with some form of the mysticism that you reflexively sneer at.

Posted by: VJay at August 22, 2012 02:06 PM (q5NFp)

457 462 jr, Wow you're so sophisticated, clockwork deism is so cool and original. Why did daddy leave?

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 02:36 PM (LRFds)

458 Statutory rape is not consensual, it takes place before the age of consent. It seems like you (lots of lawyers, actually) have a REALLY hard time with this.

Posted by: Dave M at August 22, 2012 03:46 PM (pb4AZ)

459 Having this entire pro-life - pro-choice debate at this juncture in the campaign is absolutely insane. We were on such a nice trajectory for the triple crown. Obama is inept, corrupt and represents the values of only a small percentage of the populace. This election really is for all the chips on the table. The damage that he would succeed in inflicting on the U.S. and the rest of the world if he were to get a second term is simply horrifying.

He has been desperately searching for anything that will distract voters from his abysmal record and here we are handing him just what he was looking for on a silver plate. This election as everyone should be aware is about the Independent voters. Hard core dems and republicans made up their minds two years ago who they were voting for. It's the Independents who must be won over. With the RNC taking the hard core, right of right, overturn Roe vs. Wade mentality I expect Romney will lose a full ten points of the popular vote he would otherwise have had if he'd kept on message. Add in the 7% that Obama will no doubt garner from dead people, felons, welfare recipients, ACORN fraud drives and Union fraud and this election is no longer close to "in the bag". I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the stupidity of this as so much is at stake.

Posted by: parker at August 22, 2012 04:48 PM (1BZwV)

460 doctors have told women that in order to examine them they'd have to probe them with their penises. Dammit, I'm in the wrong business.

Posted by: Robert at August 22, 2012 05:05 PM (HWUv9)

461 America loves to kill its babies. Burn em in a salt solution...chemicals.... vacuuming their arms, legs and heads from their bodies.....sticking scissors in the nape of their neck Heck, we know that some survive these horrible things and our president forbids medical help to those infants leaving them to die. We are a proud nation of baby killers.

Posted by: Mekan at August 22, 2012 08:02 PM (T/L2Z)

462

DNC, here I come!  More free poon than Woodstock!

...and nothing like grudge-fu**ing a liberal to lift your spirits!

Posted by: Icedog at August 22, 2012 10:54 PM (PTS+l)

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