October 23, 2012
— Ace A few notable things here beyond that.
Obama's favorable/unfavorable is underwater, 47-49. Romney's is above water and ahead of Obama's: 50/45. With women he's 47/47. Obama's well underwater with men, though, 41-55.
I am a convert to believing favorability might be the single most important number in a poll. I suppose it's not as important as the head-to-head. But it's close.
Obama's job approval is 45/51.
Now, among Independents: Mitt Romney has a fav/unfav 50/45. Obama's fav/unfav among independents is way underwater, at 42/51.
And Romney leads in independents, 50-41.
The only age group Obama leads with is 18-29, and that's not even by 2008 level margins. Just 51-38. So a majority have decided to support him-- barely. Who knows where the 10% undecided will go.
So, it's a pretty good poll for Romney. Not only is he ahead, but he seems to have more upside. If you think your favorability sets your upper bound of support -- people who favor you might support you; if they have an unfavorable impression of you, they almost certainly won't -- then Obama seems to be butting up near his maximum level of support, while Romney could still grow a few points.
PPP holds out hope that the debate, which they think Obama won, will change things. I don't see that happening. Quite the opposite. The big card Biden repeatedly played on Ryan -- often as a buffoonish nonsequitor -- was, "What, so you want to go to war with everyone?"
I'm pretty sure Romney successfully presented himself as a non-Dr. Strangelove candidate.
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Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 23, 2012 06:48 AM (HrBwt)
Posted by: General Ripper at October 23, 2012 06:51 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Gen Buck Turgidson at October 23, 2012 06:51 AM (EjgHh)
OT, Ace, but CBS' focus group pwns Norah O'Donnell and the other presstitutes this morning. Drudge the non-blogger has a link (YouTube, unfortunately, I think) that is teh funneh. The looks on their faces when 6 of 8 say Mitt won the debate is truly priceless. Worth the look, I would humbly offer.
Posted by: eureka! at October 23, 2012 06:51 AM (cTjRR)
Posted by: Jean at October 23, 2012 06:52 AM (C/Pop)
Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at October 23, 2012 06:54 AM (fdnD9)
He's still trying to figure out a way to build them in Ohio.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 23, 2012 06:54 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: eureka! at October 23, 2012 10:51 AM (cTjRR)
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that.made.my.day
Posted by: fixeruper at October 23, 2012 06:55 AM (C8hzL)
Posted by: Absolutely no one at October 23, 2012 06:55 AM (1H47k)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 23, 2012 06:56 AM (jucos)
Posted by: pep at October 23, 2012 06:56 AM (YXmuI)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 23, 2012 06:57 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: USA at October 23, 2012 06:57 AM (RIg+t)
Posted by: VBJonny at October 23, 2012 06:58 AM (bED4B)
Posted by: TD, one of the proud 53% at October 23, 2012 06:58 AM (+uFux)
Posted by: BignJames at October 23, 2012 06:58 AM (j7iSn)
Posted by: Absolutely no one at October 23, 2012 10:55 AM
Fix Bayonets!
Posted by: huerfano at October 23, 2012 06:59 AM (bAGA/)
Posted by: Ferb Fletcher at October 23, 2012 06:59 AM (hyP1j)
Posted by: eureka! at October 23, 2012 10:51 AM (cTjRR)
That is priceless. They are dumbfounded. Emphasis on the dumb.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 23, 2012 06:59 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: President Barack Muffley at October 23, 2012 06:59 AM (EjgHh)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro,VT at October 23, 2012 07:00 AM (48wze)
Posted by: Jean at October 23, 2012 07:00 AM (4jJCE)
Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at October 23, 2012 07:00 AM (fdnD9)
Posted by: poljunkie at October 23, 2012 07:00 AM (XuiJf)
Posted by: Liberty Lover at October 23, 2012 07:00 AM (encrR)
Posted by: huerfano at October 23, 2012 10:59 AM (bAGA/)
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Jeebus..... how the hell do you guys break a bayonet???
Posted by: Jumpin Joe Biden at October 23, 2012 07:00 AM (C8hzL)
Posted by: Suck it, Greg at October 23, 2012 10:56 AM (d/5qf)
OOooo just name the place babay!
Posted by: Greg Will Gladly Suck It at October 23, 2012 07:00 AM (/YJYi)
20) It's the Norfolk Naval Shipyard but it's in Portsmouth, VA. Confusing. They also build ships in Newport News.
Posted by: VBJonny at October 23, 2012 07:00 AM (bED4B)
Rasmussen Minnesota: Obama 51-46. Haaaahahahaha.
I have a dream of an electoral map that is blue from Maine to DC (with a spot of red in New Hampshire), blue from Oregon to California, blue in Illinois, and red everywhere else.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 23, 2012 07:01 AM (JxMoP)
Still way too high but they're also at the top of the pyramid for being low information voters I would imagine. Use the phrase 'another Jimmy Carter' around them and they'd be clueless.
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 23, 2012 07:01 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 23, 2012 07:02 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: AmishDude at October 23, 2012 07:02 AM (xSegX)
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So disappointed in Youtube. I figured with a simple search, I could come up with a video clip of the Three Stooges' triphibian, a submarine with a helicopter rotor and tank treads.
Posted by: Anachronda at October 23, 2012 07:02 AM (1c58W)
On the way home last night I heard a Gary Johnson campaign ad on 93X (big Minneapolis rock station). I'd love to see the exit polls for Johnson voters to see how many will be disgruntled (and slightly confused) liberals.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 23, 2012 07:02 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows bayonets slice like a freaking hammer at October 23, 2012 07:02 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: gulfkraken at October 23, 2012 07:02 AM (WBfjO)
Posted by: cheetah at October 23, 2012 07:03 AM (zXhtZ)
Yeah, Norah and Charlie have the same look on their faces as I did last night when I took a sip of my wife's after dinner sambuca.
Posted by: Spike at October 23, 2012 07:03 AM (TdwGH)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 23, 2012 07:03 AM (jucos)
Posted by: Nate Silver at October 23, 2012 07:03 AM (WBfjO)
Posted by: Redd at October 23, 2012 07:03 AM (RoEtU)
Posted by: BignJames at October 23, 2012 07:03 AM (j7iSn)
Good point. The perfect rejoinder to that would not have helped, either. Bentsen got the laugh and looked like every bit of the mean-spirited prick he was in the process. Which is why it is smarter for Romney/Ryan to let those whiz by.
Posted by: SurferDoc at October 23, 2012 07:03 AM (6H6FZ)
Posted by: Buck Turdgison at October 23, 2012 07:04 AM (e0xKF)
Not sure why that's funny. Minnesotans are positively certifiable.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 23, 2012 07:04 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Low Information Voters at October 23, 2012 07:04 AM (136wp)
Posted by: Wall_E at October 23, 2012 07:05 AM (48wze)
Rasmussen Minnesota: Obama 51-46. Haaaahahahaha.
Over and out. That would be like Romney up by five in South Carolina. Landslide and slack-jawed leftard MFMers as far as the eye can see.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 23, 2012 07:05 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: Redd at October 23, 2012 07:05 AM (RoEtU)
Posted by: joeindc44 will start talking like biden. like. biden. at October 23, 2012 07:05 AM (QxSug)
Posted by: Jean at October 23, 2012 07:05 AM (4jJCE)
Posted by: maddogg at October 23, 2012 07:05 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: joeindc44 will start talking like biden. like. biden. at October 23, 2012 07:05 AM (QxSug)
Posted by: Warthog at October 23, 2012 07:06 AM (WDySP)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 23, 2012 07:06 AM (136wp)
Posted by: joeindc44 will start talking like biden. like. biden. at October 23, 2012 07:07 AM (QxSug)
Posted by: Jamie Hyneman at October 23, 2012 07:07 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 23, 2012 07:07 AM (TXseM)
Posted by: eman at October 23, 2012 07:07 AM (+XD7n)
My mom voted for every Democrat except Gore in 2000. Reason: Gore was a fucking asshole and was part of the sleazy Clinton machine (although she did vote for Clinton both times).
All you handwringers, get a cup of STFU. Romney is smarter than you for not launching the red meat.
Expect the Mormon's lead to grow.
Posted by: CT observer at October 23, 2012 07:07 AM (qxcKC)
Posted by: SH at October 23, 2012 07:07 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows bayonets slice like a freaking hammer at October 23, 2012 07:07 AM (AZGON)
When Obama has lost PPP he has lost the election.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at October 23, 2012 07:07 AM (hlUJY)
Posted by: Low Information Voters at October 23, 2012 11:04 AM (136wp)
No way man, he was in that action movie with a guy who rides rhinos on Mars.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 23, 2012 07:08 AM (SY2Kh)
That lack of remembrance is the entire reason this guy was elected in the first place. History, doom, repetition, etc.
Posted by: pep at October 23, 2012 07:08 AM (YXmuI)
Posted by: SH at October 23, 2012 07:08 AM (gmeXX)
Apparently GM is looking at making magnesium based cars (can't tell if its chassis, bodies, or both). 'Cause that will end well.
"Buy the GM S'more, now at fire-sale prices!"
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 23, 2012 07:08 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Nate Silver at October 23, 2012 07:10 AM (WBfjO)
I won't be discouraged or let anything get in the way of voting. For the first time in my life I'm proud of my American Standard.
[plop][whoosh]
Posted by: Michelle O at October 23, 2012 07:10 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: CT observer at October 23, 2012 11:07 AM (qxcKC)
There are so many code words that I can come, to no other conclusion, than that your mother, is a, racist,.
Posted by: Toure Neblett at October 23, 2012 07:10 AM (/YJYi)
Posted by: Jaws at October 23, 2012 07:10 AM (4I3Uo)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 23, 2012 07:10 AM (TMB3S)
Posted by: AgentLobos at October 23, 2012 07:11 AM (lvH2L)
The fact that the stock market and corporate earnings are imploding doesn't help.
So many little things keep happening in such a way that I honestly begin to see the Hand of Providence in all this. For instance, why was Obama SO weak in the first debate? He clearly can debate well. Why was Romney so bold when boldness isn't his style? Why is the stock market tanking right now?
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at October 23, 2012 07:11 AM (hlUJY)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 23, 2012 07:11 AM (e0xKF)
Shit just got real.. in other words, these polling outfits now have to get serious and predict the real results because it is getting close to the election. They all always start tightening up as it approaches election day.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 23, 2012 07:11 AM (f9c2L)
There was Pew, then came Gallup, Ras, PPP and, now finally, InTrade as Van Jones was trumpeting that as proof positive Obama was winning.
The keep retreating from victory to victory.
Posted by: RoyalOil at October 23, 2012 07:11 AM (imtbm)
Posted by: Nate Silver at October 23, 2012 07:11 AM (WBfjO)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 23, 2012 07:11 AM (QdDND)
Posted by: maddogg at October 23, 2012 07:12 AM (OlN4e)
I still cannot believe a sitting President of the United States said that during a presidential debate. I repeat, 13 yo girls how just got their first period are more mature than TFG.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. We're not worthy. at October 23, 2012 07:12 AM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 23, 2012 07:12 AM (osU7Q)
Posted by: Gulfkraken at October 23, 2012 07:12 AM (WBfjO)
Posted by: ejo at October 23, 2012 07:12 AM (GXvSO)
Posted by: SurferDoc at October 23, 2012 07:13 AM (6H6FZ)
Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at October 23, 2012 07:13 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: TD, one of the proud 53% at October 23, 2012 07:13 AM (+uFux)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 23, 2012 07:13 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: FeneloonSpoke at October 23, 2012 07:13 AM (u1lkY)
Posted by: VBJonny at October 23, 2012 07:13 AM (bED4B)
Posted by: Honey Badger at October 23, 2012 07:13 AM (GvYeG)
Posted by: Heralder at October 23, 2012 07:14 AM (+xmn4)
I went to bed smiling.
His closer sealed the deal - "Listen (or something) I'll work with you....". Game over Obama.
Posted by: tubal at October 23, 2012 07:14 AM (BoE3Z)
Posted by: Raquel at October 23, 2012 07:14 AM (IJOxR)
Yeah the US sucked at foreign policy in the 80s.
"We welcome change and openness; for we believe that freedom and security go together, that the advance of human liberty can only strengthen the cause of world peace. There is one sign the Soviets can make that would be unmistakable, that would advance dramatically the cause of freedom and peace. General Secretary Gorbachev, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Soviet Union and eastern Europe, if you seek liberalization, come here to this gate. Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate. Mr. Gorbachev, Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"
R.R.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 23, 2012 07:14 AM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 23, 2012 07:14 AM (TMB3S)
I still cannot believe a sitting President of the United States said that during a presidential debate.
That went well......NOT!
Posted by: BHO post-debate at October 23, 2012 07:14 AM (YXmuI)
There's usually at least 1% "other". I predict 51%/48%.
As far as breaking 300 EVs, it seems unlikely. Anything over 268 and I'll be happy, though I'm still pulling for 269-269 to effect maximum lefty outrage.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 23, 2012 07:14 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: FeneloonSpoke at October 23, 2012 11:13 AM
Ahem, allow me to translate. MEMEMEMEME!!!!
Posted by: BHO Jackwagon at October 23, 2012 07:15 AM (0It32)
How likely is that sample to come to pass?
The radio has already reported gas prices have gone down.
Unfortunately for the SCOAMT, he made sure everyone knew he believed that low gas prices were a sign of a bad economy.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 23, 2012 07:15 AM (8y9MW)
Count me in, too.
By the way, there is a reason they call Fenway Park hot dogs -- the ultimate phallic symbol -- "Fenway Franks." Yes indeed, they are definitely "plump when you cook 'em."
Posted by: Barney Frank at October 23, 2012 07:15 AM (LTbLf)
There's no doubt Romney is going to have his work cut out for him. Not just defense, the economy and the debt, but also restoring credibility to the White House.
In 20 years we still won't know how much damage four years of Choom Boy has caused.
Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at October 23, 2012 07:15 AM (ZgX/g)
Fixed!
Posted by: huerfano at October 23, 2012 07:15 AM (bAGA/)
20) It's the Norfolk Naval Shipyard but it's in Portsmouth, VA. Confusing. They also build ships in Newport News.
Posted by: VBJonny at October 23, 2012 11:00 AM (bED4B)
Because the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard is in Portsmouth, NH. I know, clears that right up, doesn't it?
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at October 23, 2012 07:16 AM (rqlRk)
The propaganda will be how the economy is heating up, jobs are plentiful, and gas is cheap.
The reality will be pitiful earnings, expensive gas, no jobs, and no hope.
Posted by: soothsayer at October 23, 2012 11:11 AM (QdDND)
They probably quite a few states the won't count in the unemployment numbers and have it at about 5% by Nov. 5.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 23, 2012 07:16 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Gulfkraken at October 23, 2012 07:16 AM (WBfjO)
Posted by: Lord Admiral Barry at October 23, 2012 07:16 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 23, 2012 07:16 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows bayonets slice like a freaking hammer at October 23, 2012 07:16 AM (AZGON)
Well, they have. Though I had a bit of cognitive dissonance myself when I was all yay gas is at 3.50 and then thought wait a second.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. We're not worthy. at October 23, 2012 07:16 AM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at October 23, 2012 07:16 AM (QupBk)
Nope, Firebird. Posted by: pep at October 23, 2012 11:15 AM
Nope, Fiero
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at October 23, 2012 07:16 AM (0It32)
As much as I would love to see a 53/47 Romney win for irony purposes I am beginning to believe this may be far worse for Obama.
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I'm with you. I would not be surprised to see an 8-9 point victory. Traditionally, America punishes Presidents/parties who have failed domestically. The Dems were punished in 2010 and nothing has improved. Obama will be punished in November. We are accustomed to thinking that the electorate is extremely polarizing. But maybe 2000 and 2004 were aberrations. There is a potential for a huge victory here. That being said, I think it will likely be a 4-5 point victory. Either way, Obama is gone.
Posted by: SH at October 23, 2012 07:17 AM (gmeXX)
As far as breaking 300 EVs, it seems unlikely. Anything over 268 and I'll be happy, though I'm still pulling for 269-269 to effect maximum lefty outrage.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 23, 2012 11:14 AM (SY2Kh)
No, don't pull for that- it would likely give us another 4 years of Biden only a heartbeat away (Senate picks VP).
Posted by: Jon (not the troll) at October 23, 2012 07:17 AM (YN0YA)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 23, 2012 07:17 AM (73vB9)
Posted by: FeneloonSpoke at October 23, 2012 11:13 AM (u1lkY)
That's not good news for Obama since he stated during the second debate that it's a sign of a faltering economy.
Posted by: Slappy at October 23, 2012 07:17 AM (LTbLf)
Posted by: USA at October 23, 2012 07:17 AM (RIg+t)
Posted by: t-bird at October 23, 2012 07:18 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Michelle Obama at October 23, 2012 07:18 AM (136wp)
Apparently GM is looking at making magnesium based cars (can't tell if its chassis, bodies, or both). 'Cause that will end well.
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They have to, for the weight savings. No other current technology will get a car to the ridiculous CAFE standards and still be able to make it to highway speed.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 23, 2012 07:18 AM (HrBwt)
Posted by: Redd at October 23, 2012 07:19 AM (RoEtU)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny, ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 at October 23, 2012 07:19 AM (Ho2rs)
Conservatives need to clue in and vote, en masse. It's really that simple.
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I don't think that will be a problem.
Posted by: SH at October 23, 2012 07:19 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: The littl shyning man at October 23, 2012 07:19 AM (PH+2B)
35 The only age group Obama leads with is 18-29, and that's not even by 2008 level margins. Just 51-38.
Still way too high but they're also at the top of the pyramid for being low information voters I would imagine. Use the phrase 'another Jimmy Carter' around them and they'd be clueless.
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And better still, they're the most likely to be chooming out the day of the election. There's nothing historic going on, so why bother voting.
Posted by: Boots at October 23, 2012 07:19 AM (neKzn)
So what you're saying is that no one should buy any car from any automaker built after 2014 (which would be when these cars would hit the market, I think).
Good to know.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 23, 2012 07:19 AM (8y9MW)
It's too late. They can report all the cheery economic news they want to now. At two weeks before the election? If that's going to be their new push, they should have started doing that months ago.
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at October 23, 2012 07:19 AM (6mIw2)
Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at October 23, 2012 07:20 AM (IPG9V)
the tykes might also be considered to young to actually vote until they are 27?
Posted by: willow at October 23, 2012 07:20 AM (hX8cq)
Posted by: TD, one of the proud 53% at October 23, 2012 07:20 AM (+uFux)
and "The 80s called and want their foreign policy back"
You mean the 80s when the Berlin Wall came down and communism collapsed? The 80s when South America became more democratic than it has ever been? Those 80s?
Posted by: polynikes at October 23, 2012 07:20 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows bayonets slice like a freaking hammer at October 23, 2012 07:20 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 23, 2012 07:21 AM (oSFWF)
Posted by: kawfytawk at October 23, 2012 07:21 AM (JWLqy)
First day of early voting in Texas yesterday.
Democrat-controlled Dallas county had near-record low first day ballots cast. Republican-controlled Tarrant county had record high first day ballots cast. I think conservatives got the message.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 23, 2012 07:21 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: In before the troll at October 23, 2012 07:21 AM (TIIx5)
Posted by: jakeman at October 23, 2012 07:21 AM (96M6e)
Joe D. Biden: It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance has been introduced to our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the union bosses, certainly without card check. That's the way your hard core neocon works.
Paul Ryan: Tell me, Joe, when did you first develop this theory of yours?
Joe D. Biden: Well, I first became aware of it during the physical act of love. Yes, a profound sense of fatigue, a feeling of emptiness followed. Luckily I was able to interpret these feelings correctly. Loss of essence. I can assure you it has not recurred, Ryan. Women sense my power and they seek the life essence. I do not avoid women, Ryan, but I do deny them my essence.
Paul Ryan: Uh...eh...yes...
Posted by: Terry Southern at October 23, 2012 07:22 AM (EjgHh)
I know one automaker that is seriously looking at aluminum wiring. I also know a homeowner that spent about 25k to have all the aluminum wiring pulled out of his home and replaced with copper.
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 23, 2012 07:22 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 23, 2012 07:22 AM (9fkPX)
Posted by: Jean at October 23, 2012 07:23 AM (liPvR)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 23, 2012 07:23 AM (136wp)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 23, 2012 07:23 AM (HrBwt)
Where did you get this link to PPP? I am seeing it nowhere on Google.. This is current?
Are all the media outlets trying not to cover it?
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 23, 2012 07:23 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 23, 2012 07:24 AM (oSFWF)
also glad to see how totally the mask has been ripped off the face of the media and who they work for.
now if only the rest of the country can figure out how absolutely insane it is to have a political party of the govt Run their news. or would they be too dumb to care how dangerous this is?
Posted by: willow at October 23, 2012 07:24 AM (hX8cq)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 23, 2012 07:24 AM (Sj28i)
Posted by: BignJames at October 23, 2012 07:24 AM (j7iSn)
So what you're saying is that no one should buy any car from any automaker built after 2014 (which would be when these cars would hit the market, I think).
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You could still buy a truck, however, until they get the same treatment.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 23, 2012 07:24 AM (HrBwt)
Completely substance-less response, per usual.
Russia is a huge thorn in our side in the Security Council and in Iran and other assorted hot spots around the Middle East. Even China isn't as bad, although they may just be getting warmed up in their regional ambitions. At least we have a lot of trade with China and since they are a big commodity importer, they don't stand to gain as much from causing global chaos as the Russians do, being big energy exporters. Plus, China can't fuck Europe as hard as Russia can, like when they threatened to cut off natural gas supplies to Germany during one winter unless they got their way.
I really don't see anything incorrect with Romney's assessment of Russia as the biggest potential and actual threat to the US. Hell, behind Pakistan, Russia is also the most likely source of a loose nuke falling into Al Qaeda's hands.
Posted by: BS Inc. at October 23, 2012 07:24 AM (P2Ufm)
Posted by: polynikes at October 23, 2012 07:24 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at October 23, 2012 07:24 AM (8YINY)
Posted by: Boots"
Don't forget Halo 4 comes out that day, too. They'll find other things to do.
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at October 23, 2012 07:24 AM (6mIw2)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 23, 2012 07:25 AM (oSFWF)
Posted by: Dick Hertz at October 23, 2012 07:25 AM (gkfSV)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 23, 2012 07:25 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Boots at October 23, 2012 11:19 AM (neKzn)
Wrong. So wrong. Halo 4 comes out dude. That is something historic.
Posted by: 19 year old in his underwear at October 23, 2012 07:25 AM (/YJYi)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 23, 2012 07:26 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 23, 2012 11:22 AM (feFL6)
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That $25K was money well spent. Aluminum wiring is one of the most dangerous things I can think of.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 23, 2012 07:26 AM (HrBwt)
Posted by: BignJames at October 23, 2012 07:26 AM (j7iSn)
There are magnesium alloys that aren't especially flammable. That said, GM hasn't really gone all-in for aluminum yet, which also delivers weight savings without some of magnesium's drawbacks.
What will have to happen first to meet the CAFE scam is deletion of a lot of features the public considers essential today: power assists, fancy trim, all-wheel drive systems and size (I'm talkin' to you, SUV owners) all add weight, which sucks fuel.
For that matter, a lot of the pork in greeeeen!!11!! cars is in their battery packs. Replace all that electric shit with an efficient IC engine and weight goes down. Big-time.
Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at October 23, 2012 07:26 AM (ZgX/g)
My reply would have been, "Who are you? George Costanza? Have another shrimp. Since when does a line from a 90's sit-com elevate to political debate status?"
The statement is so juvenile it is incredible.
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 23, 2012 07:27 AM (feFL6)
In a car, though? That'll be an electrical nightmare because a car can be left out in the heat and the body will end up well over 100 degrees. That shit will melt and either cause a fire or be unable to start.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 23, 2012 11:25 AM (e0xKF)
You do know that all the powerlines that bring the electricity to your house are aluminum right?
Posted by: polynikes at October 23, 2012 07:27 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: kawfytawk at October 23, 2012 07:27 AM (JWLqy)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 23, 2012 07:28 AM (oSFWF)
Posted by: polynikes at October 23, 2012 07:28 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at October 23, 2012 07:28 AM (qEL0E)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 23, 2012 07:28 AM (+tqYo)
GM already experimented with aluminum wiring in the 80's. Massive fail, due to corrosion at the connections,plus breakage in the runs--aluminum is way too rigid to deal with vibration--especially in the formulation used.
Posted by: irongrampa at October 23, 2012 07:29 AM (SAMxH)
Obama is going to regret not building ships in Norfolk, and maybe a boat in Conn if the McMahon poll is accurate.
He's still trying to figure out a way to build them in Ohio.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 23, 2012 10:54 AM (SY2Kh)
Building carriers in Ohio isn't a problem. Getting them to the ocean however.......
Maybe we can just FedEx them.
Posted by: In before the troll at October 23, 2012 07:29 AM (TIIx5)
But think of the entertainment value.
"As your newly elected President, I have sent Vice President Biden on an 18 month diplomatic mission to Antarctica to negotiate a Status of Fish agreement with the resident King Penguin population."
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 23, 2012 07:29 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 23, 2012 07:29 AM (+tqYo)
Posted by: Honey Badger at October 23, 2012 07:29 AM (GvYeG)
Posted by: RoyalOil at October 23, 2012 07:30 AM (imtbm)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 23, 2012 07:30 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows bayonets slice like a freaking hammer at October 23, 2012 07:30 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: retired military at October 23, 2012 11:26 AM (SElov)
Barry;We don't have as many dirty bombs as we did in 1916. We have technology to make them cleaner now. Almost makes them shine. I even let Joey polish a few of them
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 23, 2012 07:30 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Honey Badger at October 23, 2012 07:30 AM (GvYeG)
Judge Roy Bean,
Same here in Amman. Print out the ballot, fill it out, taxi to the embassy. Wait in line with all the Arabs who hate the Great Satan but can't wait to visit, then finally give the ballot, with receipt and internet tracking number.
Posted by: MikeinAmman at October 23, 2012 07:30 AM (zB494)
Posted by: polynikes at October 23, 2012 11:28 AM (m2CN7)
Just buoyant spirits overflowing after last night's debate, no doubt.
Are you saying, though, that the wires on the poles outside my house are aluminum? (What I don't know about electricity could fill up TGF's knucklehead).
Posted by: tubal at October 23, 2012 07:31 AM (BoE3Z)
Posted by: polynikes at October 23, 2012 11:27 AM (m2CN7)
--
Yes, but they are not inside walls or auto frames where heat can build up.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 23, 2012 07:31 AM (HrBwt)
if the mid east will turn into islam on steroids, what country in the future say 5 -10 years would we jump off of to beat them back if they decided to spread into non muslim territory? saying this as if we had no ships?
which counrtry would we be able to use ?
Posted by: willow at October 23, 2012 07:31 AM (hX8cq)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 23, 2012 07:31 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 23, 2012 11:30 AM (e0xKF)
Yes, you're probably right about that.
Posted by: polynikes at October 23, 2012 07:31 AM (m2CN7)
One last point: When cars are engineered to be lighter, more weight can then be taken out of powertrains, brakes, suspension and so on. Which in turn eliminates more weight.
One of the nice things about engineering. It follows certain basic physical laws, something Choom Boy and Congress can't get through their heads.
Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at October 23, 2012 07:32 AM (ZgX/g)
Posted by: Thorvald at October 23, 2012 07:32 AM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 23, 2012 07:32 AM (+tqYo)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 23, 2012 07:33 AM (oSFWF)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 23, 2012 07:33 AM (cBNtI)
Posted by: Still Banned at October 23, 2012 07:34 AM (T4dLI)
Just sayin'. A friend who just got back from visiting elderly parents in Ohio noticed a few Romney signs as he drove through the state, but next to nothing for my President. Also a dearth of Obama bumper stickers compared to 08. Can anyone second this observation? Is there enough suburban, rural numbers to push Romney over the top?
Posted by: dblwmy at October 23, 2012 07:34 AM (BvTwT)
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 23, 2012 07:34 AM (jLiVY)
Posted by: kawfytawk at October 23, 2012 07:35 AM (JWLqy)
JJ Sefton,
Thanks for the kind wishes. I tell people, after 6 years here, that it's a shithole, but a pretty secure shithole, where Christians can and do live and worship openly. I'm more afraid of tracking my ballot and find out it's lost in Chicago.
Posted by: MikeinAmman at October 23, 2012 07:35 AM (zB494)
Posted by: Still Banned at October 23, 2012 11:34 AM (T4dLI)
Uh, you might want to lose the "bastard" part, while grovelling to be let back in. Just an observation.
Posted by: tubal at October 23, 2012 07:35 AM (BoE3Z)
They refurbish them there; if memory serves they stopped building new ones and instead refurbish the ones we have. The Pentagon doesn't want more tanks, but elected officials want to keep the money flowing to Ohio.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 23, 2012 07:36 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 23, 2012 07:36 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: The littl shyning man at October 23, 2012 07:36 AM (PH+2B)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 23, 2012 07:36 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Interested Party at October 23, 2012 07:36 AM (cniyx)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 23, 2012 07:36 AM (cBNtI)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 23, 2012 07:36 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: tubal at October 23, 2012 11:31 AM (BoE3Z)
Sorry, already occupied.
Posted by: Massive Self-Regard at October 23, 2012 07:37 AM (nZvGM)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows bayonets slice like a freaking hammer at October 23, 2012 07:37 AM (AZGON)
"Only" 63%? That seems like a ridiculously high number of idiots among us.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at October 23, 2012 07:38 AM (ZKzrr)
Forget all that stuuf. Drudge has a link to Vanity Fair magazine, which has dug up college photos of teh eeeeevil Mutt Romney, playing practical jokes and looking very un-presidential.
He wasn't even puffin' on a spliff, fer crissake!
How can we think of replacing Choom Boy with this jokester?????
Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at October 23, 2012 07:38 AM (ZgX/g)
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 23, 2012 07:39 AM (jLiVY)
It focuses on Ambassador Stevens' last report to Washington.
For as short as it is, it took a long time to write, as I was, at turns, taken with shaking rage and incredible sadness.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 23, 2012 07:39 AM (8y9MW)
Yeah, Norah and Charlie have the same look on their faces as I did last night when I took a sip of my wife's after dinner sambuca.
When are ye gonna get off tha' milk diet, lad?
Posted by: Chief Engineer Montgomery Scott at October 23, 2012 07:40 AM (zF6Iw)
Oh, that line about the 80s calling was so telling. Obama DESPISES Reagan. Reagan was "The Man" when Barry was at Columbia and it was all the rage on the student Left to support bullshit like the Nuclear Freeze. I remember the "Reagan '84/War '85" bumper stickers. I remember the assholes like John Kerry and Bob Boland who opposed aid to the contras and supported the Sandinistas, and were horrified when Reagan liberated Grenada. I remember the "Dear Commandante" letter to Ortega.
These dicks are still trying to re-litigate the 80s, but most Americans think they ended pretty damn well for us and the world.
Posted by: rockmom at October 23, 2012 07:40 AM (NYnoe)
I read the Frank Marshall Davis wiki page today.
The only Obama mention is in a single footnote. The Ayers? Père and fils? Nada. The Chicago "Star" and the Honolulu "Record" - labor publications.
Posted by: mrp at October 23, 2012 07:40 AM (HjPtV)
Posted by: MikeinAmman at October 23, 2012 07:40 AM (zB494)
yep, screw ppp, although interesting they are going to try to save face.
However, that Razzenhoffergermazi poll at 50 for Romney? Its Over, baby!
Now everybody follow through and vote.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 23, 2012 07:40 AM (PHb2k)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows bayonets slice like a freaking hammer at October 23, 2012 07:40 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Travis at October 23, 2012 07:41 AM (/gUgY)
Posted by: MrC_5150 at October 23, 2012 07:41 AM (UeuU/)
Per @TobyHarnden on twitter
Posted by: Nventor at October 23, 2012 07:41 AM (+yL85)
Remember - the 47% punch above their weight....errrrr.....uhhhhh.... and will help me get reelected as your Preezy!!!
Posted by: Choomer in Chief at October 23, 2012 07:41 AM (Jls4P)
Posted by: mrp at October 23, 2012 07:42 AM (HjPtV)
Posted by: Thorvald at October 23, 2012 07:42 AM (1V6Pv)
You. In the barrel.
Also: you need to cut/paste from word for "AHHHHHHH!"?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 23, 2012 07:42 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 23, 2012 07:42 AM (jLiVY)
In the D.C. area because of all the easy tax money
Posted by: El Lobo at October 23, 2012 07:43 AM (+I8Mq)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows bayonets slice like a freaking hammer at October 23, 2012 07:43 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 23, 2012 07:43 AM (e0xKF)
So, the 18-29 y.o.'s still support Bambi Good luck finding a job in the future Obama economy, idiots.
Convential wisdom says that teenagers think they know everything. This works to their detriment. There aren't many teenage agers that don't think their parents are idiots.
Given the infantilization of the American population (e.g. children defined under Obamacare as anyone under the age of 26). I think that this "knowing everything" phase has pushed well into the 20's also.
Posted by: rockhead at October 23, 2012 07:44 AM (jtTKf)
Posted by: Spike at October 23, 2012 07:44 AM (TdwGH)
Is it me or did PPP forget that in their own poll from debate:
Indies:
48 less likely to Vote for Obama...32 Percent more likely
47 more likely to Vote for Romney....35 Percent less likely
PPP I am sure also had slanted sample....I could care less what they say...but still if PPP is holding out hopes with those numbers above.... GET A LIFE JACKET.....a REAL BIG ONE!
Oh I am sure Ace will Publish Rasmussen's Numbers today I hope!
As for hope over at Drudge:
CBS Undecideds in OHIO:
6 to 2 broke for Romney after last night debate!! Charlie Rose and Norah over at CBS almost fell off their chairs with the results!! DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is and will always be the ECONOMY STUPID!! A FP debate will sway no one unless some major gaffe happens....Americans in the end...strip away all the BS nonsense will vote based on their economic means!
Last night in Luntz Focus group...they gave a slight edge to Obama on FP...but they overwhelmingly picked Mitt on the Economy! That is the big difference the Pundits fail to get over and over and over. Style Points....who in the heck watches a debate at home with a SCORECARD? Rush is the only person that talks about this. Regular Americans look at the two and say who will help me and America get and do better! Pure and simple...not complex....gotchas or fights.
Mitt was brilliant last night because he made Obama look desperate and sound desperate. While the left says look Obama won according to snap polls...But what victory? He won FP but lost the Economy. Mitt stood toe to toe and he did great. He pivoted back to the Economy which is and will be the NUMBER ONE decider. Some of us wanted Mitt to attack over Libya but the audience needed to reach he did with smarts and style. And to us as well Mitt look and acted like a President....similar to the way Ronald Reagan did!
Posted by: bluerose75 at October 23, 2012 07:44 AM (HDcKc)
Posted by: FeneloonSpoke at October 23, 2012 07:44 AM (u1lkY)
DJIA into the barrel you go.
The private sector is doing fine. Outside of the earnings reports anyway.
Hey, anyone know where I can get me one of them aircraft carriers?
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 23, 2012 07:45 AM (B+qrE)
You say you want a Romeny-lution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
But if ‘Bama goes hangin’ ornaments of Chairman Mao
You ain't going to get re-elected anyhow
Don't you know it's gonna be all right
All right, all right
You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We'd all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well, you know
We're doing what we can
But when ‘Bama wants money
For people with minds that hate
All I can tell is brother we canÂ’t wait
Don't you know it's gonna be all right
All right, all right.
All right, all right, all right
All right, all right, all right
Posted by: John Lennon in Bearded Spock World at October 23, 2012 07:45 AM (Hx5uv)
I have a feeling it's gonna be a snoozer
Posted by: kawfytawk at October 23, 2012 11:35 AM (JWLqy)
Barky will be a contestant on the next season of The Apprentice?
Posted by: davidinvirginia at October 23, 2012 07:45 AM (qEkGZ)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows bayonets slice like a freaking hammer at October 23, 2012 07:45 AM (AZGON)
Daughter bought home in Ohio in 2006 for 225,000. Zillow estimate today -- 203,000 dollars. Yeah, I believe government statistics. Along with Superman, the Easter Bunny, and Santa Clause.
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 23, 2012 07:45 AM (feFL6)
You have to buy a bayonet adapter for your binder first.
Posted by: President Choomy McSnarktard at October 23, 2012 07:45 AM (POGCP)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 23, 2012 07:46 AM (8y9MW)
I see "recent precedent" isn't heeded as a warning here at the 'Q.
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 23, 2012 07:47 AM (POGCP)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 23, 2012 07:47 AM (e0xKF)
Common sense theme: Poles will start showing a truer picture as we get closer to the election. Poling companies hate to be sooo wrong. I think we are witnessing it already in action.
Posted by: dblwmy at October 23, 2012 07:47 AM (BvTwT)
Those voting? All GOP. Lot full of Mitt stickers.
I feel good. Obama has left the state, so these guys were probably being paid by the local dim party. Either that or they are city workers on "break".
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 23, 2012 07:47 AM (wR+pz)
Also: you need to cut/paste from word for "AHHHHHHH!"?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 23, 2012 11:42 AM (8y9MW)
I was young and I needed the money.
Posted by: joncelli at October 23, 2012 07:47 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 23, 2012 07:48 AM (+tqYo)
Posted by: SH at October 23, 2012 07:48 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Private No Class Obama at October 23, 2012 07:48 AM (SzAZ7)
Didn't catch the debate, but the scuttlebutt is that Romney looked presidential and Barry looked like a rude jerk.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 23, 2012 07:48 AM (TpXEI)
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If it's PPP that margin is already factored in do to the fact that they cheat in the poll.
Posted by: Evan Maughan at October 23, 2012 07:49 AM (AKWgn)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 23, 2012 07:49 AM (cBNtI)
You think those photos won't be spread around?
I thought they were teh funneh. After all, every one of us could face laughter or mild embarrassment if some of our college-age shenanigans were made public. When looked at for what they are, they are meaningless and amusing. Nothing like watching Choom Boy playing Cool Black Dude.
But the desperation level is high enough on the other side that anything that could, with enough added snark and lies, hurt Romney even slightly, is going to get major exposure.
Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at October 23, 2012 07:49 AM (ZgX/g)
Posted by: tofer732 at October 23, 2012 07:49 AM (2zM0P)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows bayonets slice like a freaking hammer at October 23, 2012 07:49 AM (AZGON)
Even the animals are singing a happy tune to barry's demise in two weeks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDDgJPKuSf0&feature=player_embedded#!
Posted by: 14 days at October 23, 2012 07:49 AM (LpQbZ)
260 213
So has anyone figured out/guessed what Trumps "big big news" is?
I have a feeling it's gonna be a snoozer
There seems to be some rumblings about choomie selling and using cocaine during college. Imagine that.
Posted by: Havedash at October 23, 2012 07:50 AM (F0WNa)
Jim Messina, on conference call: "We're ahead of where we were against McCain."
Uh--BULLSHIT.
At this point in 2008, Obama had a ten point lead on McCain, who was stuck in the low forties.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 23, 2012 07:50 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: Nate Silver at October 23, 2012 07:51 AM (gsy5B)
Posted by: SH at October 23, 2012 07:51 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 23, 2012 07:51 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: tofer732 at October 23, 2012 11:49 AM (2zM0P)
Hopefully all the money that companies have been hording for the last 3 years is going to get back into the economy and make it a short recession.
Posted by: joncelli at October 23, 2012 07:52 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 23, 2012 07:52 AM (cBNtI)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 23, 2012 07:52 AM (+tqYo)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 23, 2012 07:53 AM (ck76k)
Building carriers in Ohio isn't a problem. Getting them to the ocean however.......
Posted by: In before the troll at October 23, 2012 11:29 AM (TIIx5)
The U.S. Navy used to have a paddle-wheel aircraft carrier for training in the Great Lakes.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop posting from work at October 23, 2012 07:53 AM (3P3G8)
Posted by: kawfytawk at October 23, 2012 07:54 AM (JWLqy)
There seems to be some rumblings about choomie selling and using cocaine during college. Imagine that.
Wow. I didn't know that Trump read Ayers' books.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. We're not worthy. at October 23, 2012 07:54 AM (Gk3SS)
Couple of thoughts: Romney hitting 50% at Raz is kind of a big deal.
I used to negotiate quite a bit in my career. One principle is to go the opposite of your opponet in demeanor. First debate, Romney forceful and optimistic to Obama sullen and withdrawn. Romney won big. Obama caught hell and was forced to get aggressive for the next two debates. Romney spun the other way and presented himself as the reasonable man while Obama flailed and looked unpresidential.
Very well done. The Romney campaign gets the big picture. Obama, like most leftists, tries to win on snark. Snark excites leftists, but turns indys off.
Posted by: Meremortal at October 23, 2012 07:54 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: tofer732 at October 23, 2012 07:55 AM (2zM0P)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 23, 2012 07:55 AM (ck76k)
Posted by: rockmom at October 23, 2012 11:40 AM (NYnoe)
___
not only that, but the music was good
Posted by: kallisto at October 23, 2012 07:55 AM (jm/9g)
At this point in 2008, Obama had a ten point lead on McCain, who was stuck in the low forties.
The RCP average for Oct 23 had it 50.1% / 42.6%. Not quite ten points, but yeah- Creepy McMolestery Messina is full of shit.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 23, 2012 07:55 AM (SY2Kh)
This Romney fellow, I fear he's going to end all the good will our President has been able to restore around the world since we got rid of that Bush character.
That's why I, a life-long Republican, am voting for Barack Hussein Obama, mm mmmmm mmmmmmmm!
Posted by: Old White ex-McCain voter at October 23, 2012 07:56 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Dante at October 23, 2012 07:57 AM (NWLVJ)
USS Sable was built in Lorain. Just sayin.
There were seven major shipyards on the Great Lakes in WWII.
Anything under 740' will go down the Seaway. That would take in all current destroyers, cruisers and frigates. Ready when you need us.
Posted by: comatus at October 23, 2012 07:57 AM (qaVK+)
What can Donald Trump possibly have that could really hurt Obama? From Rezko to F & F, all just like water off a duck's back.
Posted by: Lincolntf at October 23, 2012 07:57 AM (GeD0A)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 23, 2012 07:57 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 23, 2012 07:57 AM (TMB3S)
Didn't anyone tell him what that was likely to bring to mind?
http://web.ku.edu/~eceurope/communistnationssince1917/ch3.html
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at October 23, 2012 07:57 AM (vouc9)
David Burge @iowahawk blog
"And also, I believe I have luxuriant cascading mane of hair." RT @tobyharnden Axelrod: "This is a race we believe we're leading."
Posted by: Nventor at October 23, 2012 07:58 AM (+yL85)
Hell, I would like a premium HD cable channel that did the same with any mouthpiece that showed up to spout talking points. I'd pay for that
Posted by: kawfytawk at October 23, 2012 11:54 AM (JWLqy)
------------
There is a Japanese game show with male contestants. If a contestant got an answer wrong, they were hit in the family jewels with a padded hammer.
That is what needs to be used for debates.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 23, 2012 07:58 AM (cBNtI)
Posted by: kawfytawk at October 23, 2012 11:54 AM
Maher's show would look like a tesla coil.
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at October 23, 2012 07:58 AM (0It32)
Posted by: I'm Barky the Dip-shit man! at October 23, 2012 07:58 AM (sGKZZ)
Romney! Romney! We are all....
Shit, nothing rhymes there like "Obama/Osama."
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at October 23, 2012 07:58 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Honey Badger at October 23, 2012 07:59 AM (GvYeG)
"And once again today we found that home prices are at the highest levels since 2006."
___
that's funny...housingtracker dot net tells me that ASKING prices in the Philly metro have declined nine per cent just since last year. Since 2006, it's about a twenty per cent decline. Anyone can log on to see how their city is faring.
Posted by: kallisto at October 23, 2012 08:00 AM (jm/9g)
As I posted this morning, coffee has more caffeine than these drinks.
http://is.gd/4uerkn
Posted by: Vic at October 23, 2012 08:00 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Dante at October 23, 2012 08:00 AM (NWLVJ)
Posted by: tasker at October 23, 2012 08:00 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 23, 2012 08:01 AM (73vB9)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 23, 2012 08:01 AM (cBNtI)
I am staying.
I heard they are hiring maids.
Posted by: Mochelle's mom at October 23, 2012 08:01 AM (wR+pz)
They made "boats that go underwater" in Manitowoc. Took them through some canal in IL to the Mississippi and out to the war from there.
God bless everyone in the Silent Service...20 minutes into the 45-minute tour of the USS Cobia and I was starting to feel buried alive.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at October 23, 2012 08:01 AM (ZKzrr)
"I'm pretty sure Romney successfully presented himself as a non-Dr. Strangelove candidate."
Not for lack of effort by Schieffer and Obama. Schieffer tried to set up Romney with "Israel calls to say they're bombing Iran. Whattayado?". Mitt wasn't biting and didn't give Barry the opening he was looking for. That was the attempted Act of Terror this debate, guaranteed...and it failed.
Posted by: 66chevelle at October 23, 2012 08:02 AM (QjSgY)
Posted by: kawfytawk at October 23, 2012 08:02 AM (JWLqy)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 23, 2012 08:02 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: tasker at October 23, 2012 08:02 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 23, 2012 08:03 AM (oSFWF)
Posted by: tasker at October 23, 2012 08:04 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Aaron at October 23, 2012 08:04 AM (Tlix5)
Posted by: VBJonny at October 23, 2012 08:06 AM (7eipU)
John, damn it, buy a new keyboard, you are fucking up the blog with your MS shit.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 23, 2012 08:06 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: DaveA at October 23, 2012 08:06 AM (wcjj2)
Posted by: FeneloonSpoke at October 23, 2012 08:06 AM (u1lkY)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 23, 2012 11:57 AM (GFM2b)
Tax valuation assessments lag current values by about 2 years. Your taxes will continue to drop after the market turns. National stats on real estate are meaningless in assessing local real estate submarkets. We have over 250 such submarkets in the USA. Most subs are in light decline or flat at this time.
Some are improving at the same time. Some are in a dead cat bounce, some show real improvement. I look for the real bottom nationally in late 2014. There will be no national boom after that, but things will improve in fits and starts.
Posted by: Meremortal at October 23, 2012 08:06 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Sandra Meat Fluke at October 23, 2012 08:08 AM (JRU+g)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 23, 2012 08:08 AM (oSFWF)
Manitowoc brought in their 28 subs ahead of schedule and under budget. To get the subs from Manitowoc down the Mizsip, they used...the Chicago Sanitary and Ship Canal!
Can't do that now, because Asian Carp.
When I was young, Asian Carp would have been a sub's name.
Posted by: comatus at October 23, 2012 08:08 AM (qaVK+)
Posted by: Baldy at October 23, 2012 08:09 AM (opS9C)
The funny part about this sock puppet is that Brattleboro is a pretty conservative, blue collar town. The town's two biggest employers are a nuclear power plant and a prison for crying out loud.
It should be Burlington, VT, not Brattleboro. Burlington is a really liberal town. Even the rest of the state thinks they're a little crazy.
Posted by: Rod Munsch at October 23, 2012 08:09 AM (2aB+q)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 23, 2012 08:09 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 23, 2012 08:09 AM (8y9MW)
hahahahaha
of course they were gonna endorse the Republican -- they must keep up the facade.
but theyll all vote for Obama
Because it's not possible for a politically active gay person to vote Republican, right?
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 23, 2012 08:10 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: kawfytawk at October 23, 2012 08:10 AM (JWLqy)
Posted by: TD, one of the proud 53% at October 23, 2012 08:10 AM (+uFux)
Yeah, four more years, that's the ticket.
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 23, 2012 08:10 AM (feFL6)
We Don't Drink!
We Don't Smoke!
Norfolk!
Norfolk!
Yeah!
Posted by: sTevo at October 23, 2012 08:10 AM (16tqn)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 23, 2012 12:10 PM (SY2Kh)
Don't tell Gabe.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 23, 2012 08:11 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 23, 2012 08:11 AM (e0xKF)
It's why they are going big and hard in Ohio. Obama believes if he wins Ohio, he wins. Period.
They have lots of lawyers on the ground and shenanigans galore.
Look for Ohio to be the new Florida. Just with more lawyers and better schemes.
Posted by: marcus at October 23, 2012 08:11 AM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 23, 2012 08:11 AM (oSFWF)
Read if you want to get my take on whether favorability matters or not (I say it only matters with non-partisans).
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 23, 2012 08:12 AM (pfm/k)
We Don't Drink!
We Don't Smoke!
Norfolk!
Norfolk!
Yeah!
Posted by: sTevo at October 23, 2012 12:10 PM (16tqn)
And nobody outside of Virginia or the Navy gets that joke.
Posted by: joncelli at October 23, 2012 08:12 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Frank S at October 23, 2012 08:12 AM (B9edC)
Posted by: Ktgreat at October 23, 2012 08:13 AM (Eso3b)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 23, 2012 08:13 AM (oSFWF)
Look for Ohio to be the new Florida. Just with more lawyers and better schemes.
Posted by: marcus at October 23, 2012 12:11 PM (GGCsk)
Marcus speaks wisely. Ohioans need to make sure it isn't close enough to litigate there.
Posted by: joncelli at October 23, 2012 08:13 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 23, 2012 08:13 AM (9+ccr)
So help me out on this.
So many people say the momentum is in Romney's favor and have high hopes.
But, electoral math makes me nervous.
My friend says the ground game of the Obama administration is insane in Ohio and has been for 4 years. (paying people to vote, bussing them, etc.)
He also says there is no limit to the illegal/immoral activity the organization will do in order to ensure an Obama victory.
He says because of this, Ohio is in the bag for Obama, and without Ohio Romney cannot win.
Is Ohio, and with it the election, lost?
Posted by: Thune at October 23, 2012 08:13 AM (fnJX1)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 23, 2012 08:13 AM (e0xKF)
Since 2004, Putin has been tightening the governmentÂ’s grip on the Russian oil sector, moves that made it increasingly difficult for foreign producers to establish or maintain footholds in the country, said William J. Andrews, a fund manager at C.S. McKee & Co. in Pittsburgh. Buying TNK-BP from the London-based producer and the Russian billionaires who own the other half will transfer to Rosneft fields that accounted for about 25 percent of BPÂ’s annual output worldwide.
“The Russians are nationalistic and are going to keep the oil reserves for themselves,” said Andrews, who helps manage $14 billion. “They don’t really have a legal system or a political system. It’s a dictatorship.”
Hillary, take a harshly-worded letter...
Posted by: BHO Choomwagon at October 23, 2012 08:13 AM (0It32)
Posted by: t-bird at October 23, 2012 08:14 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: brian at October 23, 2012 08:14 AM (wTSvK)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 23, 2012 12:11 PM (oSFWF)
the left, see we told ya he was a fun, cool guy. cocaine should be legal, safe and done often.
nevermind accusations at bush.
because they can .
Posted by: willow at October 23, 2012 08:14 AM (hX8cq)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 23, 2012 08:15 AM (UCotY)
Posted by: kawfytawk at October 23, 2012 08:16 AM (JWLqy)
Posted by: Vic at October 23, 2012 08:16 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Ian S. at October 23, 2012 08:16 AM (B/VB5)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 23, 2012 08:17 AM (9+ccr)
Don't forget that by protecting Ohio they force Romney to go with a broader strategy. Not impossible, but more difficult to achieve.
The only plus is that Obama is trying to fight Romney's broader appeal- which is key to that Ohio strategy. That tells me that Obama's people are freaking out a bit over the internal polling that shows Romney is getting closer to achieving what they thought was impossible.
Posted by: marcus at October 23, 2012 08:18 AM (GGCsk)
Posted by: kawfytawk at October 23, 2012 08:18 AM (JWLqy)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 23, 2012 08:18 AM (Kqtqx)
If the Tigers beat the Giants in 7 games, Detroit will only have over a weekend to clear all the burnt cars and looted buildings to get the city ready for the Romney Victory Riots.
Posted by: Roy at October 23, 2012 08:19 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 23, 2012 08:19 AM (oSFWF)
October 23, 2012
RASMUSSEN: Romney 50, Obama 46.
UPDATE: Video: Romney wins CBS Focus Group in Ohio. “The silent sadness of the CBS newswoman’s face at 0:29… hilarious. So funny that these newsfolk don’t activate actorly skills to project the appearance of professionalism and neutrality.”
ANOTHER UPDATE: Rasmussen Swing-State Poll: Romney 50, Obama 45.
http://tinyurl.com/8kqpgh5
Posted by: kbdabear at October 23, 2012 08:20 AM (wwsoB)
The first was the silly hypothetical phone call from Israel. It seems the JEF knew that was coming and had no response for Romney refusing to answer.
The second was the JEF's attempt to re-run the "Candy Canya Save Me?" play. He tried the "look at the transcripts" ploy again like he expected Bob to back him but 1) Romney didn't stop talking so Bob could and 2) Bob didn't say anything.
Posted by: RoyalOil at October 23, 2012 08:20 AM (imtbm)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 23, 2012 08:20 AM (ck76k)
Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at October 23, 2012 08:20 AM (WY3bD)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 23, 2012 08:21 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 23, 2012 08:21 AM (oSFWF)
Posted by: VBJonny at October 23, 2012 08:23 AM (7eipU)
Posted by: Mr. Mojo Risin at October 23, 2012 08:24 AM (xXhWA)
Posted by: Thune at October 23, 2012 12:13 PM (fnJX1)
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Your concerny concerned concern is noted.
Posted by: RoyalOil at October 23, 2012 08:24 AM (imtbm)
Posted by: Brother Cavil presents at October 23, 2012 08:26 AM (GBXon)
what saddens me most is that this preeZydent has so failed the people who believed in him. Not the rabid delusional left wing assholes and socialist mini comrades, but all of the people near the middle that gave him a chance with hope in their hearts that this was a historic presidency and that he would live up to the challenge.
what a squandered opportunity.
what an unbelievable dissapointment.
what an utter failure.
what a petty man.
what a joke.
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Ali Muhammad Surpra-izi Amin U'rbu T'hol wright at October 23, 2012 08:30 AM (ovpNn)
My guess is Romney's internals say he's wining by a decent margin, which is why he didn't go into the debate thumping his chest. Obama's snarkiness and nastiness tells me he knows he's losing, he would have acted Presidential (aka an Adult) had his polls said he was on his way to a 2nd term.
Posted by: McAdams at October 23, 2012 08:53 AM (T/xGi)
Posted by: McAdams at October 23, 2012 12:53 PM (T/xGi)
Desperation brings the ugly out. And there was a whole lot of his ugly on display last night.
The most un-presidential display i have ever seen in my lifetime.
Even Carter at his worst looks like a statesman next to this jive talking asshole.
This jackass has not only no respect for the american way of life, he has no respect for the office he holds.
The sooner this mother fucker is gone from the american political stage the better.
Most divisive, destructive, and despicable despot ever.
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Ali Muhammad Surpra-izi Amin U'rbu T'hol wright at October 23, 2012 09:07 AM (ovpNn)
"I also know a homeowner that spent about 25k to have all the aluminum wiring pulled out of his home and replaced with copper.
That $25K was money well spent. Aluminum wiring is one of the most dangerous things I can think of."
Unless the aluminum wiring was undersized when installed, this was a waste of about $20K. A $5000 remediation of all outlets and switches with copper pigtails and specially designed connectors would have eliminated 99% of the risk and met all current codes. The residual 1% of the risk is what homeowner's insurance is for.
Posted by: JPS at October 23, 2012 09:11 AM (J/iry)
Posted by: It's Not Just Obama's feet that stink at October 23, 2012 09:20 AM (J1GJL)
Posted by: Greg Q at October 23, 2012 09:33 AM (4Pleu)
Republican...................................................... 35%
Independent/Other.......................................... 24%
...
REALLY? 41% Democrat sampling, and you're still losing? Heck 41% Democrat sampling and Obama only has 45% job approval?
Yeah, this is over... if this poll accurately measures each PARTY support for their candidate; then the 32/30/37 actual results when the votes are tallied will be crushing.
41% Democrat sample... lol.
The 2008 exit polls showed a D/R/I of 39/32/29,
The 2010 election 35/35/30
41/35/24... not seeing it.
Posted by: gekkobear at October 23, 2012 11:08 AM (X0NX1)
Posted by: steevy at October 23, 2012 11:25 AM (6o4Fb)
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