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August 14, 2012

Democrats Have Been Salivating About Running on MediScare.
Turns Out, So Has Romney.
— Ace

I guess they forgot they cut $716 billion from Medicare. One can understand why they forgot -- the media certainly didn't remind them.

Mitt Romney is reminding them.

Posted by: Ace at 10:59 AM | Comments (279)
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1 More, faster please

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 14, 2012 11:00 AM (mFxQX)

2 Mediscare. Come git ya' some!

Posted by: Countrysquire at August 14, 2012 11:01 AM (QB3JR)

3 That's not the information I have from Amanda Marcotte.

Posted by: Soledad O'Brien at August 14, 2012 11:01 AM (fxHyG)

4 I rate it: Up Twinkles!

Posted by: USA at August 14, 2012 11:01 AM (6Cjut)

5 Wow. That one will sting. This is not going how Dems thought it was going to go. Keep it rolling RR

Posted by: kdj0172 at August 14, 2012 11:01 AM (mdGpP)

6 Politifacts give it 11eleventybiliion pinochios.

Posted by: General Woundwort at August 14, 2012 11:01 AM (06lNq)

7 But this doesn't matter, you see, because we are going to put them all back in chains.

Posted by: sb at August 14, 2012 11:02 AM (80w08)

8 While its a bit misleading (the coverage suppoedly is taken up by 'Obamacare'), its no more misleading than the crap they throw at Ryan.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 11:02 AM (r4wIV)

Cool.

They need to run this 24/7 in Florida.

Posted by: wheatie at August 14, 2012 11:02 AM (mtRB0)

10 You guys see where they're going to claim this is racist, right? Hint: Contrasting color of font, about 3/4ths of the way in.

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2012 11:02 AM (fxHyG)

11 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 14, 2012 11:02 AM (8y9MW)

12 Niiiiiice

Posted by: lowfibass at August 14, 2012 11:02 AM (BrqlK)

13 But when Obama pushes old ladies off a cliff, he does it while riding a unicorn.

Posted by: wooga at August 14, 2012 11:02 AM (vjyZP)

I guess they forgot they cut $716 billion from Medicare.

In fairness, it is hard to keep track of money, when it belongs to someone else.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 14, 2012 11:03 AM (BiMP/)

Study: Stress and Depression Shrink Brain.

You have to look at the picture under that headline at Drudge. lol

Posted by: robtr at August 14, 2012 11:03 AM (MtwBb)

16 I still think Romney should say, let's not quibble over whether Obama borrowed or stole the $716 million. Let's just put it back.

Posted by: USA at August 14, 2012 11:03 AM (6Cjut)

17 eleventy billion is a lot ....

Posted by: Honey Badger, drinker of mead at August 14, 2012 11:03 AM (GvYeG)

18 This is what it has come to: who funds the Medicare entitlement the most-est?

Posted by: Soothsayer, of the Wolverines at August 14, 2012 11:03 AM (G/zuv)

19 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUyYace8318

Posted by: Countrysquire at August 14, 2012 11:03 AM (QB3JR)

20 They need to copy the Ryan ad pushing Granny off the cliff, only after she's off the cliff, "Ryan" pulls off his mask (Ã la mission impossible) showing he's really Obama *laughing*.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 14, 2012 11:03 AM (Qxdfp)

21 MediScare spit?

"If Rahm really had his way" -- Catholic Church Closed by order of Mayor Emanuel for not sharing Chicago Values.

By Henry Payne
http://tinyurl.com/cyq2s6u

Posted by: Milton at August 14, 2012 11:03 AM (BAnPT)

22 But they killed grandma! I'll show you as soon as we find a fresh corpse!

Posted by: Debbie Wasaman-Schlitz at August 14, 2012 11:04 AM (RD7QR)

23 If I'm still like this in 4 hrs, I'm gonna have to see a doctor

Posted by: The Q at August 14, 2012 11:04 AM (B/yDO)

24 Huh, Romney anticipated Mediscare by picking Ryan and had a plan. . . Whodathunkit. My opinion of his campaigning skills continue to rise.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 14, 2012 11:04 AM (0q2P7)

25 Please, let Romney be as cut throat as necessary to win.

Posted by: Ben at August 14, 2012 11:04 AM (C2Y4l)

26 I still think Romney should say, let's not quibble over whether Obama borrowed or stole the $716 million. Let's just put it back. Posted by: USA at August 14, 2012 03:03 PM (6Cjut) With reduced taxes and 25 million new workers.

Posted by: oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 14, 2012 11:04 AM (9TTOe)

Fucking A. Keep it coming. Then there's this from Legal Insurrection:

http://tinyurl.com/953kmmo

Posted by: Adam at August 14, 2012 11:04 AM (/YJYi)

28 23 classic ...

Posted by: Honey Badger, drinker of mead at August 14, 2012 11:04 AM (GvYeG)

29 Needs more pics of Ryan murdering stuff.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 14, 2012 11:04 AM (bb5Xq)

30 Who watches these? They are good, but how do these messages get out to the people who need to be convinced? How effective are they?

Can someone provide a brief tutorial on how that works?

Posted by: Jay Bee at August 14, 2012 11:05 AM (Xwgt3)

31 Oh and get that shit on the TV in Florida, PA and Ohio right now!

Posted by: Ben at August 14, 2012 11:05 AM (C2Y4l)

32 What "sounds" bigger: "716 Billion" or "Over half a trillion?"

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 14, 2012 11:05 AM (8y9MW)

33 someone needs to edit that white preacher who was mocking Hillary Clinton for Obama into a new add.
"It's my time lo-rd! This Mo-mon is stealing my turn!!"

Posted by: DWS (I don't know their politics) at August 14, 2012 11:05 AM (AREf/)

30I guess they forgot they cut $716 billion from Medicare. -- In fairness, it is hard to keep track of money, when it belongs to someone else.

The fuck you say?

Posted by: Jon Corzine at August 14, 2012 11:05 AM (/YJYi)

35 OH SNAP

Posted by: Paul Ryan's granny in FLA at August 14, 2012 11:05 AM (jm/9g)

36 By the way, I'm in California. We don't have presidential elections here.

Posted by: Jay Bee at August 14, 2012 11:05 AM (Xwgt3)

Republicans are behind the times. The Mediscare train already left the station. Now its the "chains" train.

Great ad.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 14, 2012 11:05 AM (VLifP)

38 Please, let Romney be as cut throat as necessary to win. Posted by: Ben at August 14, 2012 03:04 PM (C2Y4l) His daddy's ghost is pushing him. I think he'll do what it takes.

Posted by: oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 14, 2012 11:06 AM (9TTOe)

I hate to keep reminding people of this, but Obama is not a good politician. His team is not nearly as smart and good as they think they are. The reason he is not a good politician is because he has been trapped in a liberal coocoon all his life, so he keeps tripping up over his liberal instincts. Clinton grew up in the south and governed in the south. His liberal instincts were tempered by past experiences.

But there is one crucial difference between Clinton and Obama. Clinton cared about his own personal stature. Obama cares about his liberal cause. Clinton must love that Obama is having to run on Clinton's accomplishments and having to call on Clinton to speak. I doubt Clinton will care one way or the other whether Obama wins.

But back to my original point. Every instinct of Obama's blows up in his face because he is so out of the mainstream. Even a compliant media can't spin everything for him. Obama is going to lose and he is going to lose big.

Posted by: SH at August 14, 2012 11:06 AM (gmeXX)

40 O'Bama, you un-American bastard. I read your book!

Posted by: Mitt "Patton" Romney at August 14, 2012 11:06 AM (qyQRd)

41 I don't know why, but I got chills watching that.

Posted by: Elizabethe from elsewhere at August 14, 2012 11:06 AM (fJody)

42 Analysts anticipate that changes in Medicare under President Obama's healthcare reform law will create thousands of new employment opportunities for qualified barbers, bloodletters, Chinese herbalists and tribal shamans.

Posted by: Soledad O'Brien's Earpiece at August 14, 2012 11:07 AM (QKKT0)

43 The same ad can be run against every 'rat Senator and Representative that voted for Obamacare.

Posted by: eureka! at August 14, 2012 11:07 AM (1qHOu)

44 Remember in 2007 when OBAMA was on SNL and he wore an OBAMA MASK? And then he took off the mask and said, Â“You know, Hillary, I have nothing to hide. I enjoy being myself. IÂ’m not going to change who I am just because itÂ’s Halloween.Â”

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at August 14, 2012 11:07 AM (G/zuv)

They expect people to believe that ObamaCare "saved" money with magic fairy dust?

Posted by: Optimizer at August 14, 2012 11:08 AM (As94z)

46 What's sad is that I hear $716 billion and don't really flinch. When you are running $1.5 trillion dollar deficits every year, what is $716 billino over 10 years.

Posted by: SH at August 14, 2012 11:08 AM (gmeXX)

47 >>>>Can someone provide a brief tutorial on how that works?

Sure.
You give the Romney money.
He uses it to put the ad on the teevee.
People in swing states get to watch it in the commercial breaks during Matlock.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 14, 2012 11:08 AM (0q2P7)

This thread rules.

That is all.

Posted by: rockmom at August 14, 2012 11:08 AM (aBlZ1)

49 37 What "sounds" bigger: "716 Billion" or "Over half a trillion?" Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 14, 2012 03:05 PM (8y9MW) ************ 716 billion.

Posted by: tasker at August 14, 2012 11:08 AM (r2PLg)

50 19 "More late night mess with the kitchen slaves White House Fries" Michelle's big ass isn't one to preach, farting in the Olympic Gold Champion's general direction for ordering breakfast eggs on muffin.

Posted by: Milton at August 14, 2012 11:09 AM (BAnPT)

51 FINISH HIM!!

Posted by: toby928© at August 14, 2012 11:09 AM (evdj2)

52 Did Drudge take down the link to Sperm Cures Morning Sickness? I thought that link should stay up forever.

Posted by: USA at August 14, 2012 11:09 AM (6Cjut)

53 37 both

If it's to be memorable, keep it simple with 1.5 TRILLION.

Posted by: Milton at August 14, 2012 11:10 AM (BAnPT)

54 "This is what it has come to: who funds the Medicare entitlement the most-est?"
Sadly, yes. That's what America has been reduced to. That's why I don't see any hope in the future until major collapse and rebuilding. "I doubt Clinton will care one way or the other whether Obama wins."
If I had to guess, I'd say Clinton will end up voting for Romney. They aren't that far apart on policy and he can't be a big fan of Obama at any level.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 11:10 AM (r4wIV)

55 >>>>Can someone provide a brief tutorial on how that works?

Sure.
You give the Romney money.
He uses it to put the ad on the teevee.
People in swing states get to watch it in the commercial breaks during Matlock.

Wow. I can only dream of a land like that... somewhere over the rainbow... or sumthin'

Posted by: Jay Bee at August 14, 2012 11:10 AM (Xwgt3)

56 lol

Posted by: Milton at August 14, 2012 11:10 AM (BAnPT)

57 I think Romney should run an ad showing Big Ears running an old white women off the cliff in a wheelchair.

Posted by: maddogg at August 14, 2012 11:10 AM (OlN4e)

58 Nice try losers, everyone know that medicAre is a madafore for CHAINZ

Posted by: BIDEN INDUSTRY at August 14, 2012 11:10 AM (1TNLq)

59 How many Dems are rooting for Obama because they hold stock in the Soylent Company?

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 14, 2012 11:10 AM (sZTYJ)

60 26 If I'm still like this in 4 hrs, I'm gonna have to see a doctor

Posted by: The Q at August 14, 2012 03:04 PM (B/yDO)

---

I'm sorry, we've cut that medicare benefit

Posted by: Office of the king at August 14, 2012 11:10 AM (SO2Q8)

61 Seriously, I'm trying to decide which carries better:

"Barack Obama stole over 700 Billion dollars from Medicare"
-or-
"Barack Obama stole over half-a-Trillion dollars from Medicare"

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 14, 2012 11:11 AM (8y9MW)

62 46 I don't know why, but I got chills watching that. Posted by: Elizabethe from elsewhere at August 14, 2012 03:06 PM (fJody) *********** It's the audio. The music-the way the music progresses.

Posted by: tasker at August 14, 2012 11:11 AM (r2PLg)

63 This is what it has come to: who funds the Medicare entitlement the most-est?

Posted by: Soothsayer, of the Wolverines at August 14, 2012 03:03 PM (G/zuv)

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No. Wake up. It's two-fold. First, it's a wake-up call to how bad the Ocare law is, and second, it's an assurance to seniors that RR has their back while they, hopefully, slowly dissolve Medicare too.

Posted by: Soona at August 14, 2012 11:11 AM (4cXbW)

64 Say, when Mitt is sworn in, I would love it if he started it by saying. "Just want to give a shout out to the last two-term president - George W. Bush."

Posted by: SH at August 14, 2012 11:11 AM (gmeXX)

65 What's $716 Billion among friends?

Posted by: dfbaskwill at August 14, 2012 11:11 AM (71LDo)

66 "and it's not for you." Ouch, that's gotta hurt.

Posted by: think at August 14, 2012 11:12 AM (HOOye)

67 How many Dems are rooting for Obama because they hold stock in the Soylent Company? Posted by: The Political Hat at August 14, 2012 03:10 PM (sZTYJ) That's fiction. You want ADM and Cargill.

Posted by: oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 14, 2012 11:12 AM (9TTOe)

68 Clinton cared about his own personal stature. Obama cares about his liberal cause. Clinton must love that Obama is having to run on Clinton's accomplishments and having to call on Clinton to speak.Posted by: SH Only if Obama himself is that liberal cause. Obama's not a true socialist in that he doesn't give a shit about the lower class. They are an abstract that has political utility and that's it. His complete and total concern is himself.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] at August 14, 2012 11:12 AM (Q/1Jp)

69 Allen, how about 'he stole nearly three quarters of a trillion dollars'?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 14, 2012 11:12 AM (BiMP/)

70 Obama got a lot of old people votes in 2008 because he seemed unthreatening, they hated Bush and Republicans, and they felt a little guilty about their and America's past toward blacks and this was an easy way to pay penance as it were. This time around? No.
Obama has to win this entirely on women and minorities. That's his only hope. Can he do it? I dunno, white folks as a whole are becoming a minority in this country compared to all other groups combined. And when you peel off at least the unmarried women... it might work.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 11:12 AM (r4wIV)

71 AllenG

Say it twice, once each way.

Posted by: Milton at August 14, 2012 11:12 AM (BAnPT)

72 68 "Barack Obama stole over 700 Billion dollars from Medicare" or "Barack Obama stole over half-a-Trillion dollars from Medicare"

Using Obama Math, it seems Barack Obama stole over a trillion dollars from Medicare

Posted by: The Q at August 14, 2012 11:13 AM (B/yDO)

"45O'Bama, you un-American bastard. I read your book!"

You're a sick bastard. You can't call the President "un-American"!

The correct term is "anti-American". Get it right, or you'll make people wonder about YOU!

Posted by: Optimizer at August 14, 2012 11:13 AM (As94z)

74 "They done ROBBED y'all. ROBBED you when you wasn't lookin."

Maxine Waters, who has been speechwriting for Biden, goes both ways. She has been moonlighting for the Mittster.

Posted by: TheLittlShiningMan at August 14, 2012 11:13 AM (PH+2B)

75 In the ad, "NOT FOR YOU" is in bold black type. Just sayin.... It's coming......

Posted by: USA at August 14, 2012 11:13 AM (6Cjut)

76 Anytime you see 'half' in something, it seems smaller. So 700+ billion is the way to go.

Posted by: Lizabth at August 14, 2012 11:13 AM (JZBti)

77 MFM: But but but....Romney will give you cancer and Ryan will make granny eat cat food and give all of the money to their rich friends

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 14, 2012 11:13 AM (1Jaio)

78 10 - Supposedly? They're taking money out of Medicare, putting it into Obamacare, and you're going to trust the old foops are going to get the same level of care? Really?

Posted by: BurtTC at August 14, 2012 11:13 AM (2pG7H)

79 I got a feeling, I'm going be in Washington, DC in February.

Posted by: Winston Churchill's Bust at August 14, 2012 11:13 AM (301mM)

80 But back to my original point. Every instinct of Obama's blows up in his face because he is so out of the mainstream.

Well, growing up in Indonesia and returning to a daily cornholing by a pedophile Communist radical will tend to warp your views in a negative way.

Posted by: Captain and Tennille at August 14, 2012 11:14 AM (sbV1u)

81 73 "and it's not for you." Ouch, that's gotta hurt. Posted by: think at August 14, 2012 03:12 PM (HOOye) ******* Ya, notice where "You" is placed.

Posted by: tasker at August 14, 2012 11:14 AM (r2PLg)

82 When did socialist (true or otherwise) start caring about the poor?

Posted by: SH at August 14, 2012 11:14 AM (gmeXX)

83 Maxine Waters, who has been speechwriting for Biden, goes both ways.

Okay, that is a thought I didn't need.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 14, 2012 11:14 AM (RD7QR)

84 I think Romney should run an ad showing Big Ears running an old white women off the cliff in a wheelchair.

Posted by: maddogg at August 14, 2012 03:10 PM (OlN4e)

------------------------------------------

If we're going to go in that direction, let's just cut to the chase and show Baraka in the hospital suffocating his white grandma with a pillow.

Posted by: Soona at August 14, 2012 11:14 AM (4cXbW)

85 See it?

Posted by: tasker at August 14, 2012 11:14 AM (r2PLg)

86 Obama has to win this entirely on women and minorities. That's his only hope. Can he do it? I dunno, white folks as a whole are becoming a minority in this country compared to all other groups combined. And when you peel off at least the unmarried women... it might work. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 03:12 PM (r4wIV) It'll all depends how many times you can get them to vote... To the Welfare Bus!

Posted by: ACORN at August 14, 2012 11:15 AM (301mM)

I think the specific number hurts more. Generalities don't devestate nearly as much as exact figures. When you're saying over half a trillion does that mean 800 billion, 700 billion 500.00001 billion?

that's just me though

Posted by: underemployedidiot at August 14, 2012 11:15 AM (b0c2h)

88 Sadly, yes. That's what America has been reduced to. That's why I don't see any hope in the future until major collapse and rebuilding.

See, I don't think it's that "America" has been reduced to that, but that Democrats continually cast the arguments that way.

One of the things that I have hope for in a Romney/Ryan Presidency is that Ryan might (just might) be able to recast that argument into "who is best keeping the promises made by our government." From there (it'll take time, though) it will be a fairly small rhetorical step to "who is best enabling our seniors to see to their own needs in retirement?"

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 14, 2012 11:15 AM (8y9MW)

Ohhhhhh, yeahhhhhhh:

http://is.gd/5SJ4fi

(These guys are gonna wear me out - in a VERY good way.....)

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at August 14, 2012 11:15 AM (P6H+d)

90 If we're going to go in that direction, let's just cut to the chase and show Baraka in the hospital suffocating his white grandma with a pillow. Sounds like a job for AcePAC.

Posted by: toby928© at August 14, 2012 11:15 AM (evdj2)

91 Why are you responding with- "that's got to hurt"... the "You" is square on the pillow of your_______ bed.

Posted by: tasker at August 14, 2012 11:16 AM (r2PLg)

Posted by: Captain and Tennille at August 14, 2012 03:14 PM (sbV1u)

___

Go on.

Posted by: Whooz your daddy? Reid at August 14, 2012 11:16 AM (jm/9g)

93 It's obvious that the Romney campaign knows how to fight back. After the SC primary (Newt won it), Romney went into FL down 14 points in the polls 8 days before the primary. Romney spent 14 million on advertising and Newt never came close in a primary after that.

Posted by: Not an Artist at August 14, 2012 11:16 AM (uRumV)

94 "They're taking money out of Medicare, putting it into Obamacare, and you're going to trust the old foops are going to get the same level of care? "
Well its pretty clear that this 'Obamacare' monstrosity is going to be an enormous, painful failure at every level except the original goal of destroying medical insurance in this nation so the government has to step in and save us all
I'm just saying that is the intent of the cut. They didn't just cut medicare and say "HA UP YOURS!" they did it as a way of helping to pay for the ACA which ostensibly will cover what medicare used to.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 11:16 AM (r4wIV)

95 Damned inflation. I remember when you could buy the prole vote with a pint of gin.

Posted by: Invictos at August 14, 2012 11:16 AM (OQpzc)

96 ...but there's a glass of orange juice there-so it's not all bad.

Posted by: tasker at August 14, 2012 11:17 AM (r2PLg)

97 99 If we're going to go in that direction, let's just cut to the chase and show Baraka in the hospital suffocating his white grandma with a pillow. Sounds like a job for AcePAC. Posted by: toby928Â© at August 14, 2012 03:15 PM (evdj2) How about running over with a bus in front of the White House?

Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 14, 2012 11:17 AM (301mM)

98 I keep getting thumped.

Posted by: Soledad's Forehead at August 14, 2012 11:17 AM (QK3qp)

99 What "sounds" bigger: "716 Billion" or "Over half a trillion?"

Almost a Trillon.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at August 14, 2012 11:17 AM (71LDo)

100 Someone tell me again what "up twinkles" and "down twinkles" meant? I missed Occutard Orientation Day.

Posted by: EC at August 14, 2012 11:17 AM (GQ8sn)

101 >>>Wow. I can only dream of a land like that... somewhere over the rainbow... or sumthin'

Things I've noticed about senior citizens.
1. They still watch TV live and have "Favorite Shows"; These shows don't seem to vary much from senior to senior.
2. While most folks who actually watch live and not DVR TV bail the instant a commercial comes on, seniors tend to sit through them.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 14, 2012 11:17 AM (0q2P7)

102 This ad is killer.

Posted by: tasker at August 14, 2012 11:18 AM (r2PLg)

103 it's the 80/40 plan Obama's path to victory is 80% non-whites, 40% whites. You think Obama and Biden are making a mistake with the "chains" remark? Wrong. It's by design. 80/40

Posted by: soothsayer at August 14, 2012 11:18 AM (G/zuv)

104 Allen, how about 'he stole nearly three quarters of a trillion dollars'?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 14, 2012 03:12 PM (BiMP/)

Got to it before I could. THIS AllenG. "Obama stole almost 3/4 of a trillion dollars. That's right. 716 Billion dollars. Gone."

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 14, 2012 11:18 AM (da5Wo)

105 20 - No, smartypants. It's exactly the opposite. One side says you're going to have to cut off the spigot at some point. They chose to not do that to the old people currently getting services. The other side wants to pretend it never has to stop at all. Ever. Which is called lying. So if you want to find fault with Romney/Ryan for not shutting off Medicare RIGHT NOW, I'm going to part company with you.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 14, 2012 11:18 AM (2pG7H)

106

What "sounds" bigger: "716 Billion" or "Over half a trillion?"

Almost a Trillon.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at August 14, 2012 03:17 PM (71LDo)

Three quarters of a trillion.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/i][/b][/u] at August 14, 2012 11:18 AM (4df7R)

107 Whomever is doing these ads is good. Watch them several times, and you see more and more.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 14, 2012 11:18 AM (BiMP/)

108 "We're taking the Med out of Medicare"!

Posted by: Barack Insane Obama at August 14, 2012 11:18 AM (301mM)

109 110 uptwinkles = good, downtwinkles = bad

Posted by: Honey Badger, drinker of mead at August 14, 2012 11:19 AM (GvYeG)

110 What makes me so sad is that Biden's "chains" comment is probably worth a 25% uptick in voter turnout among blacks.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 11:19 AM (r4wIV)

111 2. While most folks who actually watch live and not DVR TV bail the instant a commercial comes on, seniors tend to sit through them. Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 14, 2012 03:17 PM (0q2P7)

It's the rheumatism and the diabetus....

Now go get me my Ensure, Junior.

Posted by: Wilford Brimley at August 14, 2012 11:19 AM (sbV1u)

112 As a fiscal con, I've always wanted to run on the platform that cutting medicare is bad.

Now I can.

Yay?

Posted by: lorien1973 at August 14, 2012 11:19 AM (0tkqC)

113

66How many Dems are rooting for Obama because they hold stock in the Soylent Company?

They are all about green jobs.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 14, 2012 11:19 AM (VLifP)

114 And their defense is, "It's not a cut, it's a cut in the rate of spending."

To which, we can say, "Since at least 1994, every time the GOP has proposed even a minor cut in the rate of spending every single Democrat that could find a microphone has wailed about how we were gutting the affected programs."

Dear Dems,
Remember how much fun you had lying about cuts in the rate of growth? Sucks like your own donkey balls now that you have to defend against the same attack, eh?
/s/
me

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 14, 2012 11:19 AM (imtbm)

115 108 I keep getting thumped.

Posted by: Soledad's Forehead at August 14, 2012 03:17 PM (QK3qp)

Sorry about that.

Posted by: Piers Morgan's Ball Sack at August 14, 2012 11:19 AM (/YJYi)

116 46 I don't know why, but I got chills watching that. Posted by: Elizabethe from elsewhere at August 14, 2012 03:06 PM (fJody) ======= And, the new vid at LegalInsurrection made me want to move to Wisconsin: http://legalinsurrection.com/ 1st post

Posted by: tears instead of chills at August 14, 2012 11:19 AM (HOOye)

117

"We're taking the Med out of Medicare"!

In truth, they are taking the care out of medicare

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 14, 2012 11:20 AM (BiMP/)

118 If the Romney/Ryan team is going to put us back in chains, then why is Obama having the military trained to help them do it? Can't he, as CIC, put a stop to that? Or is he going to substitute concentration camps for chains in his own grand scheme?

Posted by: Jay Bee at August 14, 2012 11:20 AM (Xwgt3)

119 Let's just hope we don't get so boxed into a corner that nobody can ever cut Medicare because, oh yeah, its fucking broke! Somebody better goddamn cut something some time.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at August 14, 2012 11:20 AM (+lsX1)

120 I am getting into the 1-2 punch of Romney and Ryan..they keep up this pace Wasserman's head will aasplode

Posted by: Bill Clinton at August 14, 2012 11:20 AM (4IfCN)

121 "No, smartypants. It's exactly the opposite. One side says you're going to have to cut off the spigot at some point. They chose to not do that to the old people currently getting services. The other side wants to pretend it never has to stop at all. Ever. Which is called lying."
But that's not what this particular debate is about. The ad doesn't argue "this cannot keep going and we have to cut medicare" it argues "they cut it more than we want to."

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 11:20 AM (r4wIV)

122 Romney lies...........you all will be old some day.
Posted by: Debbie Wasserman Schuktz

Not necessarily.

Posted by: The Death Panel at August 14, 2012 11:21 AM (Ky1+e)

123 110 uptwinkles = good, downtwinkles = bad

ROFL! Is that what it meant?

Posted by: EC at August 14, 2012 11:21 AM (GQ8sn)

124 This is a nationwide ad buy. Looks like things are now getting serious. Watch the Dems scream foul.

Posted by: Stan at August 14, 2012 11:21 AM (N1Gru)

125 Who said Romney wasn't tough?

That was a well-deserved punch right in the nads.

Posted by: Exile at August 14, 2012 11:21 AM (GGCsk)

126 128 "We're taking the Med out of Medicare"! -- In truth, they are taking the care out of medicare Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 14, 2012 03:20 PM (BiMP/) "Hey, if you take the Medi and Care out of Medicare - guess what you are left with"?

Posted by: Barack Insane Obama at August 14, 2012 11:22 AM (301mM)

127 What "sounds" bigger: "716 Billion" or "Over half a trillion?"
Almost a Trillon.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at August 14, 2012 03:17 PM (71LDo)

Three quarters of a trillion.

Seven point one six times ten to the eleventh power dollars.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 14, 2012 11:22 AM (0q2P7)

128 Seven point one six times ten to the eleventh power dollars.

Racism, straight up.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 14, 2012 11:22 AM (ZKzrr)

129 "While most folks who actually watch live and not DVR TV bail the instant a commercial comes on, seniors tend to sit through them."
Which is why ads targeted at older people are primarily informative rather than visual and comedy. They are actual ads, telling about a product and its value instead of an attempt to get you to pay attention or share it on Youtube. Most modern ads are attempts at going viral, not at catching eyeballs when they are shown. They hope to use that as super word of mouth.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 11:22 AM (r4wIV)

130 Sounds like a job for AcePAC.

Posted by: toby928Â© at August 14, 2012 03:15 PM (evdj2)

I keep saying we need The Moron Horde PAC. "President Obama comes under vicious attack today in the new ad released by....The Moron Horde?"

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 14, 2012 11:22 AM (da5Wo)

131

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at August 14, 2012 03:15 PM (P6H+d)

And the part at the end where Rob Reiners mother says I'll have what she's having. Beautiful!

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 14, 2012 11:22 AM (mFxQX)

132 Damn it people! It's 716 billion. Attention is paid to the digits!

Posted by: tasker at August 14, 2012 11:23 AM (r2PLg)

133

Posted by: lorien1973 at August 14, 2012 03:19 PM (0tkqC)

The only way to end a program like this is to phase it out, and not to violate promises. This is why this debate is so devastating to dems. Their entire premise is that the programs can grow and grow, and the top 5% can be milked to pay for them. What inevitably happens is that they default because there is no way to pay for them, just like a bankruptcy. If you can phase them out, it is not only economically feasible, but politically feasible.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 14, 2012 11:23 AM (BiMP/)

134

134 yep

Posted by: Honey Badger, drinker of mead at August 14, 2012 11:23 AM (GvYeG)

135 103 - You use words like "supposedly" and "ostensibly" as if they mean one thing, when in fact they mean exactly the opposite. It's really simple. Old people have coverage now. If you take $716 billion out of the program that funds their coverage right now, and you put it into one with all sorts of supposed and ostensible promises, people are going to be rightfully suspicious.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 14, 2012 11:23 AM (2pG7H)

136 "ROFL! Is that what it meant?"
Yep, thats how they voted in their fay council meetings of filthy occupy goofballs. When you were allowed to attend. Those who rocked the boat too much like "hey, lets stop girls from being raped" were ostracized and cut out.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 11:23 AM (r4wIV)

137 as I said before, Romney really wants to win, and Ryan is just more horsepower.

Bye bye Barky (thank God)

Posted by: mallfly at August 14, 2012 11:24 AM (bJm7W)

138 What "sounds" bigger: "716 Billion" or "Over half a trillion?" >>

A Metric F**kton

Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 14, 2012 11:24 AM (tf9Ne)

139 Obama's 80/40 Solution explained in 30 seconds. Watch and learn their plan. http://tinyurl.com/bt2zw85

Posted by: soothsayer at August 14, 2012 11:24 AM (G/zuv)

140

Seven point one six times ten to the eleventh power dollars.

BURN THE MATH WITCH!! !

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 14, 2012 11:24 AM (da5Wo)

141

49
They need to run this 24/7 in Florida.

Posted by: wheatie at August 14, 2012 03:02 PM (mtRB0)

No member of the Geezer Patrol in my neighborhood believes the O'Dumbo rhetoric, and my area is populated by a lot of well-off Joo's.

Posted by: Dr Fish at August 14, 2012 03:07 PM (hvwLi)

---------------

Thanks, that's good to hear, Dr. Fish.

I also think that the..."Dems want to throw your Grandchildren off the Cliff"....is a good theme to run with.

Posted by: wheatie at August 14, 2012 11:24 AM (mtRB0)

142 Iowahawk's recent tweet: How to save "The Office": bring on Joe Biden as a character. #ScrantonPA #PrisonJoe #JosephBidenPaperCompany

Posted by: heh. at August 14, 2012 11:24 AM (HOOye)

143 This better be more than a freaking web ad.

Posted by: deusexmachina at August 14, 2012 11:24 AM (6RTwM)

144 Not necessarily. Posted by: The Death Panel at August 14, 2012 03:21 PM (Ky1+e) Life clocks are a lie! Carousel is a lie! THERE IS NO RENEWAL!

Posted by: Logan at August 14, 2012 11:24 AM (301mM)

145 Shit just got real! Posted by: The Commentor Who Knows When Shit Gets Real

Real? Have gotten any yet.

Posted by: Shit at August 14, 2012 11:25 AM (Ky1+e)

146 "Hey, if you take the Medi and Care out of Medicare - guess what you are left with"?

Posted by: Barack Insane Obama at August 14, 2012 03:22 PM (301mM)

___

Chains?

Posted by: Slo Joe from Greenville DE at August 14, 2012 11:25 AM (jm/9g)

147 "Hey, if you take the Medi and Care out of Medicare - guess what you are left with"?

Posted by: Barack Insane Obama at August 14, 2012 03:22 PM (301mM)

.................................High taxes and a big copay for oxycontin?

Posted by: Invictos at August 14, 2012 11:25 AM (OQpzc)

148 If we're going to go in that direction, let's just cut to the chase and show Baraka in the hospital suffocating his white grandma with a pillow.

Posted by: Soona at August 14, 2012 03:14 PM (4cXbW) <<<<<

Hell, yes. And while we're at it, pay his brother to say da Zero usta ass rape him for laughs, then ate his puppy. Heh.

Posted by: maddogg at August 14, 2012 11:25 AM (OlN4e)

149 Oh, yeah... I forgot about that.

Posted by: Tommy V at August 14, 2012 11:25 AM (iJ5jJ)

150 "You use words like "supposedly" and "ostensibly" as if they mean one thing, when in fact they mean exactly the opposite. "
Dude, I'm not defending the ACA. I'm pointing out that if you laid it all on the table, the Demorats have as much explanation to why this was done and how they say it isn't bad as Ryan has for his plan. Its a criticism of what has happened to politics and debate, not Ryan and Romney.
I hate using the term 'Obamacare' though. It implies ONLY Obama is responsible for the bill, when its all the Democrats in congress, led by Pelosi and Reid. I don't like them getting a pass.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 11:25 AM (r4wIV)

151 If we can't beat these commies this election, we don't deserve a country of our own.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2012 11:26 AM (05RcU)

152 I'm impartial to: "More than half a trillion -- $716 billion to be exact." All the emotional impact and the exactness in one.

Posted by: Matt S. at August 14, 2012 11:26 AM (moRRg)

153 26 If I'm still like this in 4 hrs, I'm gonna have to see a doctor

Posted by: The Q at August 14, 2012 03:04 PM (B/yDO)

That's hot!

Posted by: Paris Hilton at August 14, 2012 11:26 AM (YYyqq)

154 154 Seven point one six times ten to the eleventh power dollars. BURN THE MATH WITCH!! ! Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 14, 2012 03:24 PM (da5Wo) *********** LOL!

Posted by: tasker at August 14, 2012 11:26 AM (r2PLg)

155 Partial, impartial. What's the difference?

Posted by: Matt S. at August 14, 2012 11:26 AM (moRRg)

156 Quoting: "Obama's path to victory is 80% non-whites, 40% whites."

Nope..it's 80%/40%/15%/5%

80% non-whites
40% whites
15% dead people
5% felons

Posted by: Mr_Write at August 14, 2012 11:26 AM (VJUQK)

157 Who takes the "care" out of "Medicare"?

Obama, that who. "Obamacare".

What's left? Medi.

Medi spelled backwards is "i Dem".

It's a riddle. Like Colonel Mustard in the kitchen with a candlestick holder.

The Dem's beat the crap out of grandma with her prosthetic leg and robbed her pocketbook. Of over half-a-trillion dollars.

Bastards.

Posted by: Exile at August 14, 2012 11:27 AM (GGCsk)

158 US: Egypt committed to Camp David agreements US Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta tells reporters Egyptian Defense Minister Abdel Fattah al-Sissi assured him Cairo is committed to peace treaty with Israel; fighting Sinai terror just how willfully blind and stupid are these people?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2012 11:27 AM (05RcU)

159 So which is it? Are we going to kill gandma or are we going to put her in chains? It's all so confusing. Perhaps we give them cancer, chain them up, then black lung disease and then kill them? I need my talking points from Darth Cheney.

Posted by: Midaz at August 14, 2012 11:27 AM (ff2kT)

160 170 Quoting: "Obama's path to victory is 80% non-whites, 40% whites." Nope..it's 80%/40%/15%/5% 80% non-whites 40% whites 15% dead people 5% felons Posted by: Mr_Write at August 14, 2012 03:26 PM (VJUQK) Frack you, we like to be called Warm-blooded Challenged!!

Posted by: The Living Dead at August 14, 2012 11:27 AM (301mM)

161 "Hey, if you take the Medi and Care out of Medicare - guess what you are left with"?

Posted by: Barack Insane Obama at August 14, 2012 03:22 PM (301mM)

-----------------------------------------------------

Happy union pensioners.

Posted by: Soona at August 14, 2012 11:28 AM (4cXbW)

162

716 billion.

---

We prefer 716 thousand millions

and it our BLOODY language you ungrateful colonists

Posted by: Piers Morgan at August 14, 2012 11:28 AM (SO2Q8)

163 Life clocks are a lie! Carousel is a lie! THERE IS NO RENEWAL! Posted by: Logan

But there is a whore teleporter! A Twat-A-PorterÂ®! And it really, really works!

Posted by: Francis at August 14, 2012 11:28 AM (Ky1+e)

164 173 rhetorical question ... right?

Posted by: Honey Badger, drinker of mead at August 14, 2012 11:28 AM (GvYeG)

165 And y'all fooz was worried! I got this shiz, I ain't afraid to slap a ho.

Posted by: Urban Mitt Romney at August 14, 2012 11:28 AM (/YJYi)

166 eureka! said: "The same ad can be run against every 'rat Senator and Representative that voted for Obamacare."

I'm not sure what the etiquette is on talking about, but not posting, non-public presentations, but there is a case study from the NRCC on the special election in NV-2 where they talk about how they used the race to test out how to fight the Ryan Plan/Medicare attack to a draw and then pivot to the economy and win.

In short, they not only fought the democrat rep to a draw but won the argument over Medicare by coupling it to Obamacare --

When asked which candidate will better protect seniors on Medicare?:
-- Amodei went from a [-13] to [+8] over his rival.

Among those 56-65:
-- Amodei went from a [-28] to a [+7]

The video above is near identical to all the points discussed: Couple your opponent and Medicare by their support on video to Obamacare (very unpopular) and use numerical facts such as the $700 Billion cut to make your point. Vow that you want to save the program and use seniors/mother/etc to verify this. Fight to parity and then pivot to the economy.

We're doing lines of blow off stripper tits by 8pm.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at August 14, 2012 11:28 AM (Wa+Fw)

167 They need to copy the Ryan ad pushing Granny off the cliff, only after she's off the cliff, "Ryan" pulls off his mask (Ã la mission impossible) showing he's really Obama *laughing*.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 14, 2012 03:03 PM

That is fucking GREAT!!

Posted by: Berserker at August 14, 2012 11:28 AM (FMbng)

168 173 rhetorical question ... right? Posted by: Honey Badger, drinker of mead at August 14, 2012 03:28 PM (GvYeG) yes

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2012 11:28 AM (05RcU)

169 speaking of the dead vote... that's why I don't readily dismiss skewed polls or "registered voters" polls -- they have the fraud factor already built-in

Posted by: soothsayer at August 14, 2012 11:29 AM (G/zuv)

170 $716 billion sounds like more because math.

Posted by: JustMe at August 14, 2012 11:29 AM (QbjWk)

171

just how willfully blind and stupid are these people?

That's a rhetorical question, right?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 14, 2012 11:29 AM (da5Wo)

172 165 "If we can't beat these commies this election, we don't deserve a country of our own."

Yes we do. It's called Texas

Posted by: The Q at August 14, 2012 11:29 AM (B/yDO)

173 We're doing lines of blow off stripper tits by 8pm. Posted by: Uriah Heep at August 14, 2012 03:28 PM (Wa+Fw) Just don't use a razor blade, you'll pop the implants.

Posted by: oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 14, 2012 11:30 AM (9TTOe)

174 US Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta tells reporters Egyptian Defense Minister Abdel Fattah al-Sissi assured him Cairo is committed to peace treaty with Israel; fighting Sinai terror Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2012 03:27 PM (05RcU)

Yeah, 'cause it's not like Arabs have ever reneged on any agreements throughout history. Nope. Not at all.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 14, 2012 11:30 AM (sbV1u)

175 But that's not what this particular debate is about. The ad doesn't argue "this cannot keep going and we have to cut medicare" it argues "they cut it more than we want to."

I still haven't seen the add (still at work) but I would hope they're pointing out (or trying to) that OCare simply stole the money with no plan for how to help Medicare address the short-fall, while the Ryan Plan (as it really does) plans to make reforms to Medicare to make it actually cost less.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 14, 2012 11:30 AM (8y9MW)

176 The YOU threaded throughout the piece is magic.

Posted by: someone's thinking - not so subliminal when it's fact at August 14, 2012 11:30 AM (HOOye)

177 173 US: Egypt committed to Camp David agreements

Umm. The Israeli's and Egyptian jointly manage the Sinai. A rat doesn't fart without the Israeli's knowing it. Any action is advised and coordinated.

Not that I trust the Muslim Brotherhood or anything. But that's fact.

The Sinai situation with Bedouins and other tribes is much more complex. The Egyptian military has had enough of people firing at their troops.

Posted by: Exile at August 14, 2012 11:31 AM (GGCsk)

178 The rock in the pit of my stomach is getting a bit lighter every day. Still keeping my guard up, but feeling so much better about this election since Saturday.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at August 14, 2012 11:31 AM (YmPwQ)

179 47M people on Medicare

$786,000M / 47M = ~$18K from every recipient?

Posted by: nickless at August 14, 2012 11:31 AM (MMC8r)

180 I'm just saying that is the intent of the cut. They didn't just cut medicare and say "HA UP YOURS!" they did it as a way of helping to pay for the ACA which ostensibly will cover what medicare used to. There are otherwise reasonable people in this country--even on the right--who subscribe to the lockbox illusion. That nearly one trillion dollars was removed from the [nonexistent] lockbox and dragged into Obamacare so that it can be spent on wealth-distribution welfare to people who never paid even one thin dime toward Medicare because they never worked a day in their useless lives. As for the fallacious lockbox basis of my argument, so what? There is nothing wrong with using self-deluded people's self-delusions as a handle to shove them in the right direction.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at August 14, 2012 11:31 AM (ogdab)

181 So which is it? Are we going to kill gandma or are we going to put her in chains? It's all so confusing. Perhaps we give them cancer, chain them up, then black lung disease and then kill them? ________ You forgot one--damn it! #1) Give Grandma cancer. #2) Chain them up--with a ball-aka "sinker". #3) Shove them off the cliff!

Posted by: Darth Cheney at August 14, 2012 11:32 AM (r2PLg)

182 Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 14, 2012 03:30 PM (sbV1u) The Jews will be fighting for their very existence in 6 months.

Posted by: oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 14, 2012 11:32 AM (9TTOe)

183 yeah, well, this would require democrats to become self-aware. They subsist on their delusions, ignore their own actions.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at August 14, 2012 11:32 AM (QxSug)

184 They could do it. They have about 20% of the population that will vote Democrat even if Jesus Christ an on the GOP ticket and the Democrat was the bones of Josef Mengele. Then they have a goodly amount of single females who are convinced that Ryan and Romney want to outlaw orgasms and sew their vagina shut. That could add up to 40%. And if they don't get 80% of minorities, I'd be surprised.
The problem is, the math doesn't add up if you look at i from another perspective. In 2008, Obama got barely over 50% of the vote while being perceived as the second coming mixed with Soul Train and republicans were hated and running a man almost no one on earth likes. He barely won with every single possible aspect of the election going for him. I don't see that being true this time around.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 11:33 AM (r4wIV)

185

195 47M people on Medicare

$786,000M / 47M = ~$18K from every recipient?

I repeat, BURN THE MATH WITCH!!!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 14, 2012 11:33 AM (da5Wo)

186 195 47M people on Medicare $786,000M / 47M = ~$18K from every recipient? Posted by: nickless at August 14, 2012 03:31 PM (MMC8r) ________________ Billion!

Posted by: Darth Cheney at August 14, 2012 11:33 AM (r2PLg)

187 Paul Ryan wants old people to die so he can steal their stuff.

Posted by: nickless at August 14, 2012 11:33 AM (MMC8r)

188 34 Needs more pics of Ryan murdering stuff.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 14, 2012 03:04 PM (bb5Xq)

Well.... he is a bow Hunter, and he Killed Bambis Father!

Posted by: San Fran Gay Man at August 14, 2012 11:33 AM (lZBBB)

189 @121 I would say that comment was made to motivate them. We'll just have to see if it works or not. But I don't think it will work as well as they want it to i.e. 2008 turnout.

Posted by: small town girl at August 14, 2012 11:33 AM (Bn4QF)

190 A Republican who is fighting back. What is this, Bizarro world? That would explain the goatee I woke up with this morning.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 on second thought we don't deserve Shark Week at August 14, 2012 11:33 AM (VtjlW)

191

I was wondering when the inconvenient truth of the $716B would leak out.

The only thing better than watching Romney take Obama apart during their debates would be Ryan getting a second chance at explaining MATH to Obama.

Posted by: Boots at August 14, 2012 11:34 AM (neKzn)

192 We're doing lines of blow off stripper tits by 8pm.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at August 14, 2012 03:28 PM

Towel off the boobs first, sweat and blow makes for nasty clumps.

Posted by: Berserker at August 14, 2012 11:34 AM (FMbng)

193 The YOU threaded throughout the piece is magic. Posted by: someone's thinking - not so subliminal when it's fact at August 14, 2012 03:30 PM (HOOye) ********** Right. Did you notice the second stop?

Posted by: Darth Cheney at August 14, 2012 11:34 AM (r2PLg)

194 What "sounds" bigger: "716 Billion" or "Over half a trillion?
=================
There are studies where people think they get "more" if you give them 100 pennies vs. 1 dollar.
So, go with the 716 billion. Plus, the same type of studies show a trillion would just be an abstract number to most.

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 14, 2012 11:34 AM (imtbm)

195 I think it actually goes with the music.

Posted by: Darth Cheney at August 14, 2012 11:34 AM (r2PLg)

196 The Jews will be fighting for their very existence in 6 months Posted by: oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 14, 2012 03:32 PM (9TTOe)

I would not be surprised.

But at least we'll get to see what Cairo looks like as a glass parking lot.

There's a lot of sand there dontcha know.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 14, 2012 11:34 AM (sbV1u)

197 The number really doesn't matter... The "YOU PAID" is very effective, very effective cause that is what regular ordinary American workers are saying about medicare and social security, no matter how old you are. You look at that paycheck that looks pretty good until they start adding the laundry list of taxes and the big hits are these and you think to yourself "and what am I going to get for that money, all that money, when I eventually may need it. " No one trusts these folks on either side of the aisle to fix it....romney/ryan is beginning to get them to trust them....but people who vote for them will hold them to their promises. They didn't this time around and look at the mess. They will with these two cause well, they are republcians and republicans care in a way that democrats don't. They don't care if they break their promises cause "it's just politics." to them but to the republicans it's serious real life...

Posted by: kevin durant fan at August 14, 2012 11:35 AM (oZfic)

198 OW!! MY NADS!!

Posted by: Prezzy Obama at August 14, 2012 11:35 AM (FcQjN)

199 .... I think the Isrealis have been fighting fot their existence for almost 80 years.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 14, 2012 11:35 AM (C8hzL)

200 There are studies where people think they get "more" if you give them 100 pennies vs. 1 dollar. So, go with the 716 billion. Plus, the same type of studies show a trillion would just be an abstract number to most. Posted by: RoyalOil at August 14, 2012 03:34 PM (imtbm) *********** Correct.

Posted by: Darth Cheney at August 14, 2012 11:36 AM (r2PLg)

201 That would explain the goatee I woke up with this morning Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 on second thought we don't deserve Shark Week at August 14, 2012 03:33 PM (VtjlW)

I wouldn't worry as long as it was south of the Equator, IYKWIM

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 14, 2012 11:36 AM (sbV1u)

202 #3) Shove them off the cliff! Thank you my master. Now do we shove them off the cliff before or after we kill them? Eagerly awaiting instructions.

Posted by: Midaz at August 14, 2012 11:36 AM (ff2kT)

203 The sad part is, no matter how it turns out, Israel loses, because the press will focus on dead children and blown up homes that the evil Joo destroyed.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 11:36 AM (r4wIV)

204 trap set, trap sprung. I think this was gamed out before the pick.

Posted by: mikey at August 14, 2012 11:36 AM (kmxWt)

205 Obama "barely won," Christopher? 53% sounds like a squeaker, but not in a national election, and especially considering how many electoral votes Obama racked up. And Obama won by a 10 million vote margin. 2008 was, but just barely, a landslide.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 14, 2012 11:37 AM (G/zuv)

206 Paul Ryan wants old people to die so he can laugh at their grandkids crying at the funeral.

Posted by: nickless at August 14, 2012 11:37 AM (MMC8r)

207 But at least we'll get to see what Cairo looks like as a glass parking lot. There's a lot of sand there dontcha know. Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 14, 2012 03:34 PM (sbV1u) If we slipped an extra $100 million to Tel Aviv, would them also nuke Mecca?

Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 14, 2012 11:37 AM (301mM)

208 "That would explain the goatee I woke up with this morning Posted by: alexthechick"
You woke up with a goat? Just how much did you drink last night? Oh sorry, misread.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 11:37 AM (r4wIV)

209

Then they have a goodly amount of single females who are convinced that Ryan and Romney want to outlaw orgasms and sew their vagina shut.

___

but, but...wouldn't that solve the birth control problem?

Posted by: Joy Behar audience member, D - Confused at August 14, 2012 11:37 AM (jm/9g)

210

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 14, 2012 03:30 PM (sbV1u)

And in other news... the US Pentagon reiterated their support for the South Vietnamese Government.

Posted by: News, 1 April, 1975 at August 14, 2012 11:37 AM (lZBBB)

211 215 OW!! MY NADS!! Posted by: Prezzy Obam Oh stop, we all know your nads are locked up in Reggie Love's safe. Sheesh.

Posted by: Midaz at August 14, 2012 11:37 AM (ff2kT)

212

Medicare is paid for, by....Jobs.

Actually, by private sector Jobs.

Government jobs are paid for with tax dollars and debt.....so the Medicare that is withheld is not new revenue, it's recycled revenue.

So....Medicare is tied to Unemployment in the private sector.

Another big way to "Save Medicare"....is to create more private sector Jobs.

Creating more government jobs won't do it.

And I think that it sounds better to use "Cuts nearly a Trillion".

$716 Billion is nearly a Trillion.

(The IRS always rounds up, don't they?)

Posted by: wheatie at August 14, 2012 11:38 AM (mtRB0)

213

The Ryan Plan to reduce the number of seniors on Medicare has nothing to do with slashing benefits.

There will be slashing. Oh my, yes. See how the blade catches the light? Look at it - how the light dances and laughs along its edge!

...what was I saying? Oh, yes. There will be no cutting. Of benefits.

Posted by: Paul Ryan at August 14, 2012 11:38 AM (JPrdt)

214 So, go with the 716 billion. Plus, the same type of studies show a trillion would just be an abstract number to most....

---

put the significant digits in.....

$716,000,000,000.00

that's THREE commas, trying for a fourth....

Posted by: fixerupper at August 14, 2012 11:38 AM (C8hzL)

215 "Obama "barely won," Christopher? "
53% of anything is barely over 50%, no matter how you count it. And he had EVERY POSSIBLE ADVANTAGE. Everything. All he has left from that election is the press and they aren't nearly as enthusiastic and sycophantic as in 2008. He could still win, but if he does its going to be a squeaker.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 11:38 AM (r4wIV)

216 #10 while a bit misleading, it is not misleading if you lose coverage that goes to someone else.

Posted by: mikey at August 14, 2012 11:38 AM (kmxWt)

217

If we slipped an extra $100 million to Tel Aviv, would them also nuke Mecca?

That's on the house.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 14, 2012 11:38 AM (mFxQX)

218
Wait'll they get a load of what I have in store for 'em when it comes to the soccer mom and Gen X-er vote....

Posted by: Zombie Lee Atwater at August 14, 2012 11:38 AM (Xv7f/)

219

And by the way, that sidebar story about the Progressive Insurance scum who refused to pay out on a policy (young woman killed in a car accident, she was not at fault, she had Progressive Insurance, and Progressive ended up providing attorneys for the man who killed her, just to avoid paying the dead woman's claim).

Anyway, Progressive is so named because they are politically extremely progressive liberal commie scum and they use that money (that they steal from dead people instead of paying claims) and give it to other scum like Obama and Debbie WhatserName Schultz and all the other commies who are making life for the rest of us a living hell.

Posted by: Boots at August 14, 2012 11:38 AM (neKzn)

220

Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 14, 2012 03:37 PM (301mM)

and then comes the final Imam!!!

Posted by: Amiadinajacket at August 14, 2012 11:39 AM (lZBBB)

221 Right. Did you notice the second stop? Posted by: Darth Cheney at August 14, 2012 03:34 PM (r2PLg) ------- yes, and someone's going to run with an "edit" of that vid --- hehe it won't be pretty

Posted by: someone's thinking - not so subliminal when it's fact at August 14, 2012 11:39 AM (HOOye)

222 Pretty soon, PPP is going to have to D/R/I weight their polls 88/0/12

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 14, 2012 11:39 AM (BiMP/)

223 Hells yeah. Keep a poundin' boys.

Posted by: Pipeholder at August 14, 2012 11:40 AM (M1PV9)

224 Rush played a clip today of Obama, in answering and interviewer's question (around the time of OCare passage), acknowledging that OCare cut hundreds of billions from Medicare and committing to veto any attempt to put the money back. THAT has got to make it into one of these commercials.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at August 14, 2012 11:40 AM (nZvGM)

225 There are studies where people think they get "more" if you give them 100 pennies vs. 1 dollar.

And we're paying for their fucking gold-plated diaphragms.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 14, 2012 11:40 AM (ZKzrr)

226

@230 -

Sexual harrassment is like one of the sacraments to a Frenchman.

___

c'est vrai mon vieux

Posted by: kallisto at August 14, 2012 11:42 AM (jm/9g)

227

Israelis would never nuke Cairo. They'd nuke Aswan Dam.

Posted by: Invictos at August 14, 2012 11:42 AM (OQpzc)

228

Anyway, Progressive is so named because they are politically extremely progressive liberal commie scum

Does that mean that I have to cut Flo out of my masturbatory fantasies?

Posted by: somebody else, not me at August 14, 2012 11:42 AM (nZvGM)

229 Paul Ryan will force Poli-grip to taste like ass.

Posted by: nickless at August 14, 2012 11:43 AM (MMC8r)

230 The only thing better than watching Romney take Obama apart during their debates would be Ryan getting a second chance at explaining MATH to Obama.

Posted by: Boots at August 14, 2012 03:34 PM (neKzn)

------------------------------------------------

The SCOAMT does not understand the math. He's the dem's communist butt-boy that hypes and then signs his name to leftist EO's and legislation. That's why Valerie Jarrett is there. She's the steam in this locomotive.

I'm still thinking that the debates will be jury-rigged to the point that Baraka will be able to use his teleprompter.

Posted by: Soona at August 14, 2012 11:43 AM (4cXbW)

231 When asked which candidate will better protect seniors on Medicare?: -- Amodei went from a [-13] to [+8] over his rival. Among those 56-65: -- Amodei went from a [-28] to a [+7] The video above is near identical to all the points discussed: Couple your opponent and Medicare by their support on video to Obamacare (very unpopular) and use numerical facts such as the $700 Billion cut to make your point. Vow that you want to save the program and use seniors/mother/etc to verify this. Fight to parity and then pivot to the economy. We're doing lines of blow off stripper tits by 8pm. Posted by: Uriah Heep at August 14, 2012 03:28 PM (Wa+Fw) The real story is how his Dem opponent ended up doing. She had won the Treasurers office the previous year and had won Washoe County by ~10 pts. NV02 consisted of Washoe (home of Reno & 20% of voters); the rural counties (10% of voters); and a slice of Clark county (to even up the numbers). In the special election the Dem nominee lost Washoe by double digits. She also lost the slice of Clark County in the district -- the first time that had ever happened. In the primaries earlier this year, the GOP turn-out was trumping the Dems, even within the Dem stronghold of Clark County. If that keeps up, the GOP will sweep Nevada.

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 14, 2012 11:43 AM (sZTYJ)

232 Paul Ryan will ban Christmas sweaters.

Posted by: nickless at August 14, 2012 11:44 AM (MMC8r)

233 @68

How about "Nearly three-quarters of a Trillion?"

Posted by: holygoat at August 14, 2012 11:44 AM (auGuV)

234 77 Aside from East/West Coast liberal-Marxists already determined to vote Democrat, I don't think that Obama got a landslide of white senior votes in 2008 due to "white guilt". He's not going to get them in 2012, either.

Regardless of race, Seniors have been around long enough to witness all the changes in America since FDR. They're the ones who saw the passage of Civil Rights legislation, and have been paying high taxes in order to fund the Federal insatiable appetite for more programs that keep providing more opportunistic corruption of the system, as if the organized criminals in our crony capitalist system consider taxpayers' tax funds as "insured" funds by some nonfunctional federal entity (resembling the FDIC), not hurting anyone to rob that source, no crime to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.

Unless Marxists, seniors aren't the demographic contingency that Obama is targeting with his message directing the armed vigilante thugs, the (New) Black Panthers, to take possession of the streets and election polls, to enjoy unearned benefits now referenced as entitlements. Class warfare.

Reagan's economic administrator Paul Craig Roberts wrote a good critique.

The Next Election: High Stake Outcomes Based on Non-issues
http://tinyurl.com/c2dqxz2

Posted by: Milton at August 14, 2012 11:44 AM (BAnPT)

235

...so then I picks Ryan, who has this Medicare thing going on in Congress, a pretty controversial thing, and the democrats jump on it like Oprah on a Virginia Ham. They're all, "Ryan's gonna push granny off the cliff, he's gonna take the Medicare evrybody has paid into all these years."

And all the Republican insiders are like all, saying, "oh no, Choomer McDogeater's gonna get the votes of all the old folks in Florida and everywhere else because that's the third rail."

And then...BAM!!!!....

Posted by: Mitt "they didn't see it coming" Romney at August 14, 2012 11:44 AM (FcQjN)

236 Cue the whining from team Obama:

http://tinyurl.com/8flr5fe

Posted by: The Deuce You Say at August 14, 2012 11:45 AM (Xv7f/)

237 And we're paying for their fucking gold-plated diaphragms.

Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ needs a beer at August 14, 2012 03:40 PM (ZKzrr)

...........................Copper pennies, or that worthless crap the Treasury mints these days?

Posted by: Invictos at August 14, 2012 11:45 AM (OQpzc)

238 Is it just me or is it starting to feel like we should be saying "Romney, you magnificent bastard!" I cannot WAIT until after the convention to see the big guns trained on Obasturd. I'm talking USS Wisconsin 16" guns that can basically throw a car 20 miles kinda guns. Man that day will be fapalicious. Won't even need to think about AtC's stompy boots. Oh crap, the boots, bunk time!

Posted by: Midaz at August 14, 2012 11:45 AM (ff2kT)

239 And if I'd read a few posts down I'd would have seen that Vashta Nerad already posted that.

Posted by: holygoat at August 14, 2012 11:46 AM (auGuV)

240 I for one welcome the preference cascade. I need a break man. Literally.

Posted by: Joe Bidens Ball Gag at August 14, 2012 11:46 AM (7mIFX)

241 245 - Just imagine Flo going thru your pockets for spare change while you're daydreaming about her, or get kinky and think about her shaking you upside down by your ankles so the change falls out........progressives want every last dime of everybody elses money.

Posted by: Boots at August 14, 2012 11:46 AM (neKzn)

242

They never believed the $716 Billion would be cut from Medicare any more than they believed Obama opposed Gay Marriage. The $716 Billion Cut was a politically convenient lie, necessary at the time to make the CBO numbers balance so Obamacare went on the books as "free".

They all knew from the git-go that Congress would never have the guts to go through with it, and the $716 Billion would come from tax increases or from whatever Fiscal Fairy is funding our current deficits. The lie was forgotten as soon as it was said, because they never really meant it.

Posted by: Haiku Guy at August 14, 2012 11:46 AM (vdbff)

243 We need to spread the word that Obama is going to attempt to suspend elections this fall. If enough people know ahead of time we can stop him.

Posted by: JustMe at August 14, 2012 11:47 AM (QbjWk)

244 Anyway, Progressive is so named because they are politically extremely progressive liberal commie scum and they use that money (that they steal from dead people instead of paying claims) and give it to other scum like Obama and Debbie WhatserName Schultz and all the other commies who are making life for the rest of us a living hell.

Posted by: Boots at August 14, 2012 03:38 PM (neKzn)

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Progressive Insurance is a George Soros creation. Beck talked about it years ago.

Posted by: Soona at August 14, 2012 11:47 AM (4cXbW)

245 Man that day will be fapalicious. Won't even need to think about AtC's stompy boots. Posted by: Midaz at August 14, 2012 03:45 PM (ff2kT)

I always think about the boots.

And the leather corset too.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 14, 2012 11:47 AM (sbV1u)

246 Does that mean that I have to cut Flo out of my masturbatory fantasies? Posted by: somebody else, not me Yo, point of order. We do NOT masturbate here at AoSHQ. Good God man, have you no decency? We fap.

Posted by: Midaz at August 14, 2012 11:47 AM (ff2kT)

247 I doubt Clinton will care one way or the other whether Obama wins. Posted by: SH at August 14, 2012 03:06 PM (gmeXX)

I guarantee that bj clinton wants obama to lose and lose big. That way obama's treatment of Team Clinton in 2008 gets avenged and bj still gets to be the only 2 term Dim POTUS since forever.

Posted by: Will Be Taking Applications and Assimilating The Love-slaves at August 14, 2012 11:47 AM (kXoT0)

248

Yes, half a trillion sounds like a lot. But, you would have to announce "Obama took over a half a trillion" which sounds, well, like you don't know how much he took.

In addition to which, most numbnuts don't know how much a trillion is. Doubt that? Ask a liberal how many zeroes in a trillion. Hilarity ensues. No wonder they don't mind spending trillions.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 14, 2012 11:48 AM (oX7vY)

249 We need to spread the word that Obama is going to attempt to suspend elections this fall. If enough people know ahead of time we can stop him.Posted by: JustMe at August 14, 2012 03:47 PM (QbjWk)

Seen any black helicopters lately?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 14, 2012 11:48 AM (sbV1u)

250 Paul Ryan killed Guy Lombardo with an arrow, just to watch him die.

Posted by: nickless at August 14, 2012 11:49 AM (MMC8r)

251

Progressive Insurance is a George Soros creation. Beck talked about it years ago.

I thought Peter Lewis, a George Soros wannabe, founded it.

In any case, no way I'd do business with the comrades.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 14, 2012 11:49 AM (oX7vY)

252 Paul Ryan sneaks into the houses of old people and tightens the lids on all their jars with his Republican HateStrength.

Posted by: nickless at August 14, 2012 11:50 AM (MMC8r)

253 The Political Hat, that I was not aware of. Thanks!

Posted by: Uriah Heep at August 14, 2012 11:51 AM (Wa+Fw)

254 So the WH is trying to "explain" Slow Joe's "put you in chains" remarks. It looks like they're going with the "we're completely incompetent" defense.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 14, 2012 11:51 AM (8y9MW)

255 "Chommer McDogeater" lol

Posted by: connielu at August 14, 2012 11:51 AM (i0aCV)

256

Paul Ryan forces websites and newspapers to use really small fonts.

Bastard!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 14, 2012 11:52 AM (oX7vY)

257 Progressive was founded in the 1930's, before George Soros had even begun collaborating with the Nazi's. Peter Lewis is descended of one of the founders, and he's the commie pinko.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at August 14, 2012 11:53 AM (nZvGM)

258

Posted by: Midaz at August 14, 2012 03:47 PM (ff2kT)

I apologize, but I could not think of the adjectival form of the word "fap" at that particular moment.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at August 14, 2012 11:56 AM (nZvGM)

259 I head Paul Ryan held a black mass to get Satan to resurrect all the senior citizens that he killed, just so he could kill them again.

Posted by: Joe Bidens Bramaged Dain at August 14, 2012 11:57 AM (7mIFX)

260 Paul Ryan does not support playing Russian Roulette with the health of our seniors.

Paul Ryan prefers Thunderdome Bingo. The winner gets to live. For now.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 14, 2012 11:58 AM (SY2Kh)

261 That's the brilliance of the Ryan pick....

Mitt knew about "you did build that 716 billion dollar hole"

and he knew they were gonna hit Ryan...

well played Mitt

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 11:59 AM (LRFds)

262 BOOM!

We have a fighter team....

That is why Slo Joe is breaking out the roots imagery so early

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 12:00 PM (LRFds)

263 Paul Ryan personally made the DC Metro Fare card machines suck.

Posted by: Joe Bidens Spank Sock at August 14, 2012 12:00 PM (7mIFX)

264 Ace... when you gonna get some friggin 'like' buttons for these comments and 'share' buttons for the blog posts?? You could get a lot more followers to the blog if you did...

Posted by: ROIGuy at August 14, 2012 12:01 PM (7YnaR)

265 by the way.... kudos to MITTROMNEY (evil genius) for the ad... love it

Posted by: ROIGuy at August 14, 2012 12:01 PM (7YnaR)

266 I prefer
"Seven hundred and sixteen thousand -- BILLION"

Posted by: Aunt Ralph at August 14, 2012 12:02 PM (6VG2o)

267 Sorry, carried away.
It's only Seven hundred and sixteen thousand Million.

Posted by: Aunt Ralph at August 14, 2012 12:03 PM (6VG2o)

268 262 Haiku Guy,

Barack Obama HAPPILY SIGNED THE LAW

so he can admit he is a liar, or he can hide, or he can run with it and try claim "we all won"....

right now we are watching Operation Shiny Objects

they are shitting themselves looking at the cost of each of the three

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 12:04 PM (LRFds)

269 Does that mean that I have to cut Flo out of my masturbatory fantasies? /blinks twice /turns to head Centurion ...get that MOAB loaded on the Raider. We have a new target.

Posted by: Brother Cavil presents at August 14, 2012 12:05 PM (GBXon)

270 Paul Ryan plans to take the "bomp" out of the

"bomp bah bomp bah bomp"

and the "ram" out of the

"rama lama ding dong"

Posted by: Joe Bidens Ebonics Dialect at August 14, 2012 12:05 PM (7mIFX)

271 280 Hollowpoint,

the kicker is Mitt can grab BOTH senirs and near seniors, AND generation X with this...

HAHAHAHA

Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 12:06 PM (LRFds)

272 Seen any black helicopters lately? It doesn't matter if we believe it...

Posted by: Brother Cavil presents at August 14, 2012 12:07 PM (GBXon)

273 The Israeli's and Egyptian jointly manage the Sinai. A rat doesn't fart without the Israeli's knowing it. Any action is advised and coordinated. Hum? Any action is advised, consented to, and coordinated until it isn't and now you are NOT dealing with the Egyptian Military but the Muslim Brotherhood. The times they are a changing

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2012 12:09 PM (05RcU)

274 And there it is. Bombard the airwaves with it.

Posted by: Dave S at August 14, 2012 12:11 PM (AiZkN)

275 Pauly Ryan forced Ted Turner to start all the programming on TBS 5 minutes late.

Posted by: Joe Bidens Hair Plug Ointment at August 14, 2012 12:12 PM (7mIFX)

276 Love it. Its giving Alinsky back in the face of the Alinskyites, making them live up to their own principles, or in this case their own hype. Like a mirror to a vampire.

Posted by: Uterus Cannon at August 14, 2012 12:15 PM (3ZtZW)

277 This better be on the frigging airwaves and not just yet another web ad.

Posted by: DeusExMachina at August 14, 2012 01:01 PM (6RTwM)

278 Video from the first Obama Romney exchange on Medicare.

http://tinyurl.com/83s8z8y

Posted by: The Deuce You Say at August 14, 2012 01:04 PM (Xv7f/)

279 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2012 02:03 PM (6o4Fb)

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