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October 13, 2012

Does This Ad Work?
— Ace

When I saw Biden's laugh, I had the idea of adding a laugh track and rimshots.

I wondered, though, if that would send the wrong message: Would it seem like the laugh track was reinforcing Biden's intended message that what Ryan was saying was ridiculous?

Well, someone did do just this, so we can see if my worry was well-founded, of if the maker managed to make it clear that Biden, not Ryan, is the clown here. Did the focus on Biden make it clear that he's the goof?

Actually, speaking of: What if you constructed a mock debate stage and showed a clown -- a real clown -- over in the left wing (stage left, behind the curtain) making balloon animals and honking a horn? And intercut that to suggest that "The Intellect of the Democratic Party" was just mesmerized by this clown for the whole debate?

Anyway, here's Biden, with laugh track.

Posted by: Ace at 09:22 AM | Comments (139)
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1 Drunken imbecile.

Posted by: R. Joe misses summer, can't wait for November at October 13, 2012 09:26 AM (PD2ad)

2 I see no downside to mocking a buffoon who is partners with a man causing you a lot of financial hardship.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 13, 2012 09:26 AM (jUytm)

3 Does Obama work?

Posted by: Ohio Native at October 13, 2012 09:27 AM (OiC7K)

4 Anyone compare the duration of his laughs to see which one was the longest? To me it looked like he just about busted a gut when Ryan was talking about a nuclear Iran.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 13, 2012 09:28 AM (feFL6)

5 Biden laughing while people are unemployed, scraping together money gas and heating oil... yeah, that ad will work

Posted by: soothsayer at October 13, 2012 09:28 AM (jUytm)

6 Not a good spot. Looks like what Ryan is saying may be funny. The one put out on the very evening of the debate was better.

Posted by: sgr at October 13, 2012 09:28 AM (xa5GW)

7 CAC posts, Ace comes out of weekend hiatus ...

Coincidence? I DON'T THINK SO !!!!!

Posted by: kbdabear at October 13, 2012 09:28 AM (wwsoB)

8 Ace saving CAC here by stomping out at that last thread.

Posted by: Rich at October 13, 2012 09:28 AM (pnHKr)

9 Is it possible that Vice President Joe Biden was suffering from a gelastic seizure or gelastic epilepsy ?
The guy has had brain surgery.

Posted by: Neo at October 13, 2012 09:29 AM (e8kgV)

10 OUCH!

Posted by: Ohio at October 13, 2012 09:29 AM (1Y+hH)

11 It's the ARROGANCE, Biden!

Posted by: tasker at October 13, 2012 09:29 AM (r2PLg)

12 How many days after the VP debate will the polls show whether B or R won? In other words, will the polls show that B's clown act hurt his brand?

Posted by: inquiring minds wish to know at October 13, 2012 09:29 AM (Q2wni)

13 No, it doesn't work. The problem with the add is the laugh tracks are obviously fake, and draw attention to the fact this is edited. It makes it seem like we're trying to hard, and also that I can't trust the edits - like we might not be showing accurately when and at what Biden was laughing. The first several seconds of the ad, without the cuts, work, and then the ad goes to pot.

Posted by: Random at October 13, 2012 09:29 AM (u8eBQ)

14 Would it seem like the laugh track was reinforcing Biden's intended message that what Ryan was saying was ridiculous?

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I suppose that would be true IF what Ryan was saying was ridiculous.

I think it showed Ryan's seriousness and Biden's buffoonery.

Posted by: Tami at October 13, 2012 09:29 AM (X6akg)

15 *ad

Posted by: Random at October 13, 2012 09:29 AM (u8eBQ)

16 I guess ace is back early from the hunt. Those hobo hides aren't going to skin themselves!

Posted by: Max Power at October 13, 2012 09:30 AM (q177U)

17 Opinion on this commercial? Developing.

Posted by: CAC at October 13, 2012 09:30 AM (Jrc4Z)

18 Well Romney sign #1 gone. Getting a 3 pack and the security cam set up.

Posted by: esch at October 13, 2012 09:30 AM (9XVgh)

19 >>Did the focus on Biden make it clear that he's the goof?

Yes, in spades.

Posted by: sTevo at October 13, 2012 09:30 AM (VMcEw)

20 It works for me, but then I am acutely distressed whenever I see photos or video of Biden or Obama, so maybe I'm not a good judge.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 13, 2012 09:30 AM (2b4yb)

21 I don't like it. It's gilding the lily.

Posted by: Andy at October 13, 2012 09:31 AM (OZPoa)

22 I would prefer split screen of Amb. Stevens dragged through the streets and Biden laughing.

Posted by: GASHSSIWB at October 13, 2012 09:31 AM (CZ63v)

23 It's the same as the other five versions, so it works. And it's all anyone will remember from the debate. They're 0-2 in "demeanor". Can't wait for Tuesday night when hard-hitting, super-cereal Bambi comes out.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at October 13, 2012 09:31 AM (6JMZR)

24 Is it possible that Slow Joe is tired of having someone he considers his intellectual inferior as his boss and threw the debate?

Naaahhhh!

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 13, 2012 09:31 AM (xKC/c)

25 I was laughing because I was shitting myself you wingnuts!

Posted by: Old Joe at October 13, 2012 09:31 AM (/YJYi)

26 Literally!

Posted by: Old Joe at October 13, 2012 09:31 AM (/YJYi)

27 Remember when I said there are two types of stupid people in the world? Biden showed 50 million people that he is indeed the type of stupid person who actually believes himself to be smart. Not just smart. Joe thinks he's very smart, which makes him very stupid.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 13, 2012 09:31 AM (jUytm)

28 To me it reminds me of every damn Lib out there. They have all the answers. They lie. Everything that came before them is stupid. They never accept responsibility--evryone else is to blame. The yell. They cry. They interrupt. they get emotional--and then they blackmail you. You can't win--they will literally set the place on fire and they would rather die--than, ever ever being-- wrong.

Posted by: tasker at October 13, 2012 09:31 AM (r2PLg)

29 They put out a much better one right after the debate, it made Choo-Choo the Clown look like a total asshole;

http://tinyurl.com/8nmxksg

Posted by: kbdabear at October 13, 2012 09:31 AM (wwsoB)

Me forget it? You should forget it! You're livin' in the past, man! You're hung up on some clown from the sixties, man!

Posted by: Eric the Clown (John Favreau) at October 13, 2012 09:32 AM (L8758)

31 than ever, ever *be* wrong. (damn it.)

Posted by: tasker at October 13, 2012 09:32 AM (r2PLg)

32 Oh, it works.

The laugh track is a bit much as Random says, but

> Did the focus on Biden make it clear that he's the goof?

Look at the two of them.

Biden did *okay* in the debate because when he talked he lied and bull-dozed. What kept him from winning the debate is what is on display here without the other to mitigate it.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at October 13, 2012 09:32 AM (h9gW0)

33 And there's Uncle Joe, he's a movin' kinda slow, at The Junction .

Posted by: Petticoat Junction at October 13, 2012 09:33 AM (wwsoB)

34 A gentleman's C+ for effort, albut you wouldn't even know which side it was for without them telling you at the beginning. Looked more like experimental theater than a political ad.

Posted by: Nanny Bloomburqa at October 13, 2012 09:33 AM (I2LwF)

35 I watched before I read the post. I do think it works, But, I am not sure is that is because I hate Biden because he reminded me of the old lech in my office who used to smack my behind, or because the ad actually works. Also, since I am not an idiot who is clueless, I get it. Not sure my hairdresser who is clueless, would.

Posted by: Janetoo at October 13, 2012 09:33 AM (R+fMx)

36 A grin with a body behind it?

Posted by: huerfano at October 13, 2012 09:33 AM (bAGA/)

37 17 Opinion on this commercial? Developing. Posted by: CAC at October 13, 2012 01:30 PM (Jrc4Z) ________________ omg -- It's the PPP poll. You know it. I know it. Yellow dog knows it.

Posted by: tasker at October 13, 2012 09:33 AM (r2PLg)

38 Mark Levin had a laugh track bit in the first hour of his show on friday.

Posted by: garrett at October 13, 2012 09:34 AM (L8758)

Ace, I completely hate clowns...but I like the idea of using one in this case. Only sit the clown next to Ryan. Use a split screen and have Ryan debating the clown. It makes more sense. Hell, you can even have that bimbo throw in a question addressing it as "Vice President". Just for authenticity. It's not like the clown has to respond or anything. Just have it keep making balloon animals and telling inappropriate jokes.

Posted by: Bets at October 13, 2012 09:34 AM (ad9N9)

40 And now there is going to be a Million Muppet March!! Yes, our country is in bigger trouble than I thought, with BHO and Biden in charge. The hate on the Left is being shown finally,for the nastiness that it is.God help us if these buffoons are re-elected.

Posted by: shelby at October 13, 2012 09:34 AM (TKaeM)

41 Biden can lie with conviction, sure. People listen to Biden and it is clear that he really believes what he is saying.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 13, 2012 09:35 AM (jUytm)

42 An effective ad would shownhighlights of the first presidential debate. It was Mitts performance that moved the polls.

Posted by: Liberty Lover at October 13, 2012 09:35 AM (QQcJv)

43 Why is Girardi taking Nunez off the ALCS roster!?

Posted by: garrett at October 13, 2012 09:36 AM (L8758)

44 Just what the worse presidency in the history of the U.S. needs, - comic relief. And rimshots.

Posted by: Fritz at October 13, 2012 09:37 AM (vm7ot)

45 No , sorry, doesn't work , depending on your mindset it goes both ways.

Posted by: NativeNH at October 13, 2012 09:37 AM (st9qS)

46 Stop me if you've heard this one. Nuclear Iran!!!!!

Posted by: Joey Pants Biden at October 13, 2012 09:37 AM (6JMZR)

47 Well Romney sign #1 gone. Getting a 3 pack and the security cam set up. Posted by: esch at October 13, 2012 01:30 PM (9XVgh) Motion detectors integrated with the sprinklers? Automatic pepperball turrets? Bank dyepack attached to the sign? Starving, unleashed hyenas hidden in the bushes?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 13, 2012 09:38 AM (Rhie+)

48 I hate to say it, but the Longhorns suck.

Posted by: Sponge at October 13, 2012 09:38 AM (nDcVA)

49 44 Why is Girardi taking Nunez off the ALCS roster!? They added a reliever, Eppley.

Posted by: R. Joe misses summer, can't wait for November at October 13, 2012 09:38 AM (PD2ad)

50 Joe, like John Kerry did, doesn't smile much, but he does bare his teeth......

Posted by: tc at October 13, 2012 09:38 AM (wb4qc)

51 I find the laugh track distracting. The RNC's ad is better.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 13, 2012 09:39 AM (YjDyJ)

52 I can't believe Biden is going to get away with lying about how he voted for two wars. Just when you think the Dems and the media-- can.not.go.any.lower.

Posted by: tasker at October 13, 2012 09:39 AM (r2PLg)

53 I don't love it. For precisely the reasons Ace enumerated. Way too easy to interpret it as "Biden, man of experience, laughing at that twit Ryan because everything he's he's saying is utterly ridiculous." It could have been done much more effectively. Mostly by leaving Ryan out of it and just putting up key words or phrases as Biden laughs.

Posted by: Peaches at October 13, 2012 09:39 AM (kpCLl)

54 40 when I was watching this debate, I thought what if Ryan looked over and said to him "why do you think our poor economy is funny, Tickle Me Elmo?"

Posted by: Liberty Lover at October 13, 2012 09:39 AM (QQcJv)

55 If by *works* you mean does it make me want to punch Biden in the mouth until his chiclets fall out, then yes. Yes, it does.

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at October 13, 2012 09:39 AM (qFpRI)

The debate segments used in this video...are good ones, for Paul Ryan.

But adding the 'laugh track' makes it ambiguous.

It could go either way...as to who is being mocked with the laugh track.

Posted by: wheatie at October 13, 2012 09:40 AM (l5RhJ)

57

Biden could be the grand marshal for the Million Muppet March

http://is.gd/LZ3Jop

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 13, 2012 09:40 AM (W2vlt)

"Stop me if you've heard this one. Nuclear Iran!!!!!"

Hey Joey Pant Biden, thanks to our corrupt media, nobody in the entire country has heard of it.

Posted by: Bets at October 13, 2012 09:40 AM (ad9N9)

59 shitty commercial

reallyy absolutely crap.

there is amuch better one with ominoous music and the sound of jow actually laugning

this one is fucknig terrib l e in compa rison

Its so bad i am not even bathering to check mi typing. Its that much of a fail and the music...what the fuck? sweeping opus ride in from the distance on horseback fail.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 13, 2012 09:40 AM (ovpNn)

60 Dead Ambassador!!! I'll be here all week.

Posted by: Joey Pants Biden at October 13, 2012 09:41 AM (6JMZR)

61 latest obama ad i am seeing running says you cant trust RRomney because he doesnt agree with a partisan think tank.

Posted by: blaster at October 13, 2012 09:41 AM (7Up+x)

62 I don't think the ad really works. It is a little too easy to see it as mocking Ryan, especially for a left wing dumb ass who already thinks that.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 13, 2012 09:41 AM (i0App)

>>They added a reliever, Eppley.

I'd rather have Nunez on the bench than Nix or Chavez.

Posted by: garrett at October 13, 2012 09:41 AM (L8758)

64 It is a little too easy to see it as mocking Ryan, especially for a left wing dumb ass who already thinks that.

But then again who gives a f*ck what they think.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at October 13, 2012 09:42 AM (6JMZR)

65 The problem with the add is the laugh tracks are obviously fake, and draw attention to the fact this is edited.Posted by: Random

Really, laugh tracks are fake?

Do you ever forget to breath?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 13, 2012 09:43 AM (qrpxS)

Ace: ..."Actually, speaking of: What if you constructed a mock debate stage and showed a clown -- a real clown -- over in the left wing (stage left, behind the curtain) making balloon animals and honking a horn? And intercut that to suggest that "The Intellect of the Democratic Party" was just mesmerized by this clown for the whole debate?"

I like this idea much better, Ace...than this laugh track video.

Or....the Joker.

The way that Biden was shamelessly lying...and mocking the truths that Ryan was saying...was malevolent.

It reminded me of scenes where the Joker was doing the same thing.

Posted by: wheatie at October 13, 2012 09:44 AM (l5RhJ)

67 I really can't give an objective opinion. I disliked him before the debate, but after his performance, I hate Joe Biden so much I can barely see straight.

Posted by: no good deed at October 13, 2012 09:44 AM (mjR67)

68 Did I ever tell you about the time when Auntie Zeituni got drunk and flashed her tits at a cop? I saw the whole thing, I was there!

Posted by: Joey the Plugman at October 13, 2012 09:45 AM (vm7ot)

69 I actually thought Biden comported himself well and won the debate handily.

Posted by: Boe Jiden, A Concerned Citizen at October 13, 2012 09:46 AM (6JMZR)

70 I'd like to see an ad Of Biden laughing interspersed with images of soup lines, hobo camps, and dirty faced poor children from the Great Depression.

I thought about this too. Also, put up images like cars crashing and the Hindenburg exploding while Joe chortles away in split screen.

Posted by: MFM at October 13, 2012 09:48 AM (BuSM8)

71 Common Causes: Inappropriate laughter Some of the possible common medical causes of Inappropriate laughter may include: Drug intoxication Substance abuse Dementia Temporal lobe injury Other Causes: Inappropriate laughter Some of the less common causes of Inappropriate laughter may include: Tic disorders Tourette syndrome Social anxiety Angelman syndrome Pseudobulbar palsy Gelastic epilepsy Brain tumors Multiple sclerosis Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 13, 2012 09:48 AM (feFL6)

72 Joe Biden is a blustering laughing fuck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: Crazee (@Crazizzle) at October 13, 2012 09:49 AM (626t3)

73 Posted by: MFM at October 13, 2012 01:48 PM (BuSM

Now THAT would be good. Very, very good.

Posted by: Peaches at October 13, 2012 09:49 AM (kpCLl)

74 No, the ad doesn't work. Sounds like Biden AND the audience is laughing at Ryan.

Posted by: Up up with people! at October 13, 2012 09:49 AM (vj51i)

I think a better add would take Ryan's arguments and replace them with clips of elder statesman making the exact same points -

People like Netanyahu, Laffer, Walesa, Reagan, etc. (Hell, you can probably even find a clip or two of Kennedy, Bubba Clinton, and Zel Miller making some of the same arguments that Ryan made during that debate.)

Then cutting to Joe Biden's reactions to these statements.

Posted by: garrett at October 13, 2012 09:49 AM (L8758)

76 One of the girls in my office watched the debate. Shes a registered Dem but is not very political and votes erratically. She saw the debate and said she never listened to Biden before but she HATES him with a passion after that debate.

Posted by: Liberty Lover at October 13, 2012 09:51 AM (QQcJv)

77 Is it possible that Vice President Joe Biden was suffering from a gelastic seizure or gelastic epilepsy ?

The guy has had brain surgery.

Posted by: Neo at October 13, 2012 01:29 PM (e8kgV)

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NO.

Ask yourself this. Did Uncle Joe display any of these signs of symptoms when he was the one doing the talking? When Martha Radditz was doing the talking? No. Only when Paul Ryan was doing the talking.

This was not a medical event. This was not a seizure or a nervous tic. This was not brain injury. This was a planned calculation.

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 13, 2012 09:51 AM (P6QsQ)

78 Trust me, rank and file Democrats are not thrilled with Biden at all, even though they may pretend to be when asked. I debate with plenty of them every day, many of which I know personally. None of them is bragging about how brilliant Joe Biden was in that debate. Biden is a net DRAIN on the ticket, his approval ratings show it.

Posted by: Ken Royall at October 13, 2012 09:51 AM (x0g8a)

79 That's true. You want to make sure Biden is the only one laughing.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 13, 2012 09:51 AM (jUytm)

80 Bad ad. Election over.

Posted by: Woolf (Romneylosesbig),etc. at October 13, 2012 09:51 AM (1Y+hH)

81 It does not make my leg tingle.

I'd like to see one something along these lines:

-> Actual clip of Joe claiming Syria is five times bigger than Libya.
--> Split screen:
left half Syria map over Libya map.
right half Joe grinning (maybe a rimshot)

-> Actual clip of Joe saying intelligence failed us in Benghazi
-> Followed by actual clip of Joe saying intelligence assures us Iran can't build delivery systems for nukes
--> Split screen:
left half: Joe grinning
right half: Clip of Joe saying he always says what he means, and means what he says.
-> End: clip of Ryan saying Joe is aware that sometimes words don't always come out of your mouth the right way.

Posted by: jwb7605 at October 13, 2012 09:52 AM (Qxe/p)

82 48

All good ideas. But counterproductive at this point, methinks.

Posted by: esch at October 13, 2012 09:53 AM (9XVgh)

83 Ads should focus on what Biden said.

Posted by: USA at October 13, 2012 09:53 AM (RIg+t)

84 The ad doesn't work for me. Maybe my standards are too high.

Posted by: Ronster at October 13, 2012 09:53 AM (H5i76)

85 >>>Posted by: MFM at October 13, 2012 01:48 PM

Forget the depression era. Use imagery from his administration.

Solyndra
GM
Libya
Hillary dancing
OWS
Fast and Furious
Iran with drones
etc.

Posted by: Fritz at October 13, 2012 09:54 AM (vm7ot)

86 If there was room on the screen they could do the ''bubble'' over Bidens head to show what he was thinking while he was laughing and Ryan was talking. A picture of Nazi death camps, emaciated holocaust survivors, and a crematorium while Ryan talked about a nuclear Iran would be my choice. (mama winger - good point)

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 13, 2012 09:54 AM (feFL6)

87 Biden was laughing because he and his advisers thought it would be the best way to minimize everything that Ryan said. It was juvenile and obnoxious. Remember when Larry O'Donnell and a few others would scream liar, lying liar, every time a conservative tried to speak? They were doing that not just to give the false idea that the other side was lying, but they were also making it impossible for the other person to be heard. It was hilarious when they did it to Coulter who did it right back to them. Then they whined and cried unfair. These assholes are so obvious.

Posted by: Redd at October 13, 2012 09:54 AM (guxHP)

88 73 Common Causes: Inappropriate laughter Some of the possible common medical causes of Inappropriate laughter may include: Drug intoxication Substance abuse Dementia Temporal lobe injury Other Causes: Inappropriate laughter Some of the less common causes of Inappropriate laughter may include: Tic disorders Tourette syndrome Social anxiety Angelman syndrome Pseudobulbar palsy Gelastic epilepsy Brain tumors Multiple sclerosis Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis Posted by: SchrÃ¶dinger's cat at October 13, 2012 01:48 PM (feFL6) ______________________ Should do a Venn diagram of those causes with reasons for-- forgetting how you voted on two wars--and/or pathological lying. Either way--not a person fit for office.

Posted by: tasker at October 13, 2012 09:54 AM (r2PLg)

89 I think instead of beclowning Biden, painting him as a rude, belligerent, condescending asshole is a better strategy.

Posted by: Barry Boo Boo at October 13, 2012 09:54 AM (WMeMr)

Posted by: Random at October 13, 2012 01:29 PM (u8eBQ)

Yep. No need to gild the lily.

Posted by: 66chevelle at October 13, 2012 09:55 AM (QjSgY)

91 Negative. This just lessens and actually distracts from how much of an ass Biden was. Simple split screen is most effective.

Posted by: krakatoa at October 13, 2012 09:55 AM (eCtnP)

92 I really liked how a guy with fake teeth, fake hair and a major facejob told me, in no uncertain terms, to trust him

Posted by: runner at October 13, 2012 09:56 AM (WR5xI)

93 Blame is Not a Platform

One of the core tenants of the Obama AdministrationÂ’s 2012 platform is that Obama and Biden inherited a messy economy.

Time and again, the American people are told that the reason things havenÂ’t gotten better is because the Obama administration inherited such a disaster that it was impossibly to fix it quickly.

This attempt to shift the blame elsewhere is not only immature, it isnÂ’t constructive in anyway. In fact, it reveals in stark contrast just how the Obama administration views the world.

First off, Obama and Biden ran for the job of managing the US economy in 2008. This is literally the JOB they APPLIED FOR. No one forced them to do it.

By whining about how bad it was when they GOT the job, theyÂ’re effectively implying that they would only want to be in charge if things were good.

This is leadership?

Posted by: Gordon Gekko at October 13, 2012 09:56 AM (e8kgV)

94 Anyway, we send these people to these shitholes with the understanding that we will protect them. Instead, they ignore 9/11 and intelligence that they are going to attack. They lie about it after the fact, minimize it, and then laugh about it as if it were no big deal. Four dead Americans. And all they can do is whine that the right is politicizing it. Own it, leftards! These people are so fucking incompetent except when it comes to fucking up the country. In that they have done a bang up job in a mere 3 years.

Posted by: Redd at October 13, 2012 09:57 AM (guxHP)

95 No, I don't think the ad works. The laugh track reinforces the idea that the Obama campaign wanted to project - Ryan's ideas are ridiculous.

It only works if you hate laugh tracks as much as I do, and I doubt that's possible.

The ominous music kinda helps but it still seems to be sending out a mixed message.

By the way, I posted an assortment of laughing Biden videos in my Saturday Movie Matinee, this morning:

http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/

I think the one with the "They're Coming to Take Me Awwwwway!" accompaniment definitely works.

Posted by: Nice Deb at October 13, 2012 09:57 AM (23log)

96 Why so serious?

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 13, 2012 09:58 AM (a0nis)

97 So, are we overlooking something? Paul Ryan won the debate. But Joe Biden ALSO won the debate. Paul Ryan had to make himself an acceptable VP choice for America. He succeeded. Joe Biden had to show his base it's still OK to dismiss Republicans and laugh at their stupidity. To he base, he did that too. Joe Biden won. But Paul Ryan won more.

Posted by: Truman North at October 13, 2012 09:58 AM (I2LwF)

98 I like that idea, garrett. Maybe you could throw in Biden being on the wrong side of history at every turn too.

Posted by: no good deed at October 13, 2012 09:59 AM (mjR67)

99 The laugh track makes it seem like the audience thinks Ryan is funny too.

Posted by: lan sing at October 13, 2012 10:00 AM (FHAk3)

100 Does this debate even need an ad? People saw it or they heard what a jackass Biden was. It helped us. Let's move on to the next thing.

This.

Posted by: Peaches at October 13, 2012 10:00 AM (kpCLl)

101 This ad does not work well. Biden could be laughing at what looks like Ryan's "earnestness". Perhaps a remake: Video of Biden laughing at Ryan's voice. Make Biden look like he's laughing at "23 million unemployed".

Posted by: Arbalest at October 13, 2012 10:01 AM (PqQKR)

102 Jeezus pete, people.

It's not a fucking ad. It's just some marketing yahoo who hacked up debate footage.

No need to throw a vein.

There are jihadis that keep their shit together better than some of you.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 13, 2012 10:01 AM (qrpxS)

103 Let's move on to the next thing. Posted by: runninrebel at October 13, 2012 01:59 PM (N/1Dm) Oct 16th. Next thing.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at October 13, 2012 10:01 AM (kc2b9)

104 The VP debate will be stale history in a couple days. Time to focus on JEF and ridicule him.

Posted by: Ronster at October 13, 2012 10:02 AM (H5i76)

105 "23 million unemployed"? Why, that's a hoot and a holler!

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 13, 2012 10:02 AM (a0nis)

106 Meh... I like the RNC ad better. As a single divorced woman. Bidens behavior is why.. I will never remarry. That arrogant.. nothing you say matters shit is what got me. Biden went from the crazy gafftastic harmless uncle to an asshole who reminded me of my ex husband jerk in 90 minutes. I cant believe Obozo team thought he helped them.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 13, 2012 10:02 AM (DGIjM)

107 Don't like the ad. Who the viewer is supposed to be laughing at isn't clear. People don't usually spend a lot of time trying to figure out an ad. Ambiguity is not a good idea. The ad that came within hours of the debate - without the laugh track - was much better. It was clear the VP was being a jackass.

Posted by: Cate Simpleton at October 13, 2012 10:02 AM (1JJGO)

108

I watched the video a few times with the sound turned off, just watching facial expressions of the two. Ryan looks like he is engaged in a serious, earnest discussion of something of import. Biden looks like a man attending a comedy club in a foreign country. He looks like he hears laughter (in this case probably in his own head- a virtual internal laugh track if you will) and reacts by laughing, even though he doesn't really get the punch line or even understand what the performer is saying.

Come to think of it, in this case Ryan may just as well have been speaking another language.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 13, 2012 10:02 AM (/LkSO)

109

*Honks clown horn*

I made this balloon dog just for you.

Posted by: Bozo Biden at October 13, 2012 10:02 AM (lOmbq)

110 At the university today I noticed a flyer for an event put on by the Women's Studies department. The premise is that the inverse relationship between self-worth and sexual promiscuity is a machination of the patriarchy with the obvious intent of oppressing independent women.

Posted by: Wormwood at October 13, 2012 10:03 AM (3ziXJ)

111 In other words, Biden was forcing himself to laugh.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 13, 2012 10:03 AM (/LkSO)

112 OT, but did any news come out on the Cavuto report of a deal on taxes/spending cuts? I assume it was BS, but I haven't seen any refutation.

Posted by: Crazee (@Crazizzle) at October 13, 2012 10:03 AM (626t3)

113 Biden's performance gave Sullivan a boner, thereby, making it unsafe.

Posted by: Redd at October 13, 2012 10:05 AM (guxHP)

114 Did any of the MSM jump Slow Joe for his "I voted against the two wars" LIE?

Posted by: Bruce at October 13, 2012 10:05 AM (JI+T4)

115 Some of the less common causes of Inappropriate laughter may include:

"Individual is an dimwitted arrogant Dunning-Kruger piece of fungal growth"

Posted by: Waterhouse at October 13, 2012 10:05 AM (OPanm)

116 A Danish wind turbine company [Vestas] whose subsidiaries received over $50 million in U.S. stimulus dollars announced on Friday it has cut more than 800 jobs in the United States and Canada this year and may be forced to lay off another 800 employees in North America. This is yet another green energy company that received wasteful stimulus funds and does not even have anything to show for it.

Posted by: Pres**ent Barack “Unexpectedly” Obama at October 13, 2012 10:05 AM (e8kgV)

117 116 Those devious bastards. So, now, if I'm confident and successful I'll sleep with a loser too.

Posted by: no good deed at October 13, 2012 10:05 AM (mjR67)

118

For some people it does not matter. Talked with some people at work who saw the VP debate. One is above me, makes more, has more college and not stupid. He thought Biden had more substance and it took me quite a while to get him to understand the same R&R tax plan I heard in the debate. He just swallowed Joes line about growing from the middle out and R&R want to grow from the top down and tax cuts for the rich and the math does not add up. He also thought Ryan was too extreme with religion. Yeah I was like ???? and had to explain Federalism to him. I also had to explain the bs of the "no specifics" talking point. The framework is the specific. The rest is left for the bipartisan, consensus workingout from Congress. and there is enough to cover it duH!!!

Another guy in the shop thought Biden did better as well. But they make just above minimum wage so...

This was Illinois residents.

Posted by: Mark at October 13, 2012 10:07 AM (kYNl7)

119 Barack Obama threw the First Amendment under the bus and denounced that silly Internet YouTube clip before Al Qaeda number one Ayman al-Zawahiri did.
Obama single-handedly gave al Qaeda a new recruiting tool.

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 13, 2012 10:08 AM (e8kgV)

120 The idea of letting people keep more of their own money instead of the government taking it? Ridiculous.
Over regulation and taxation keeping the economy from growing? Ridiculous.
Telling the world and Iran that we won't allow them to become nuclear weapon capable? Ridiculous.
Insisting that if we don't change our entitlement system we will bankrupt our country and destroy our economy? Ridiculous.
Repealing Obamacare to protect it's citizens and our healthcare system? Ridiculous.

This is what our current administration thinks and are laughing at.

Posted by: lowandslow at October 13, 2012 10:08 AM (GZitp)

121 116 At the university today I noticed a flyer for an event put on by the Women's Studies department. The premise is that the inverse relationship between self-worth and sexual promiscuity is a machination of the patriarchy with the obvious intent of oppressing independent women. Posted by: Wormwood at October 13, 2012 02:03 PM (3ziXJ) _____________________ That looks like a target rich environment for some of our more desperate morons....

Posted by: tasker at October 13, 2012 10:09 AM (r2PLg)

122 92 I think instead of beclowning Biden, painting him as a rude, belligerent, condescending asshole

***********

That painting was already done, as a self-portrait! (it hangs in the train station in Scranton.)

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 13, 2012 10:09 AM (/LkSO)

123 If I never see that set of false teeth chattering again it will be too soon.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, unbanned, ready to get this done at October 13, 2012 10:13 AM (baL2B)

124 113 Omg! ....This one is great. Biden in the debate...and The Joker...both saying, "Who do you trust?" http://youtu.be/fqey_c0SulI It's only 13 seconds long, but it's great. Posted by: wheatie at October 13, 2012 02:02 PM (l5RhJ) ________________ that one is getting warmer...I like it for us. I think I like the middle one on Nice Deb's page of those. The one with the voice over of different news anchors reading the news as Biden laughs.

Posted by: tasker at October 13, 2012 10:13 AM (r2PLg)

125 No. This doesn't work. Laugh track makes it feel like we should be laughing with Biden. RNC did it well with their version that night.

Posted by: Eric at October 13, 2012 10:14 AM (+n4Qh)

126 Don't like this ad, no.

Hannity said last night that when he listened to the debate a second time he realized how many good points Ryan made. I think Hyena Joe's strategy was to distract from anything substantive Ryan had to say.

Posted by: TD at October 13, 2012 10:16 AM (DQMcq)

127 No. The ad doesn't work. That laugh track sucks. WTF? Who puts this sh*t out without getting a couple of opinions on it first? There was a better one on the internetz yesterday....somewhere....that was similar.....but, different.......... hey, I'm being about as specific as CAC in his d*ck teasing poll posts.

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at October 13, 2012 10:16 AM (B/3gr)

128 VP Biden should get help for <a href="http://www.vincentchow.net/937/how-to-stop-laughing-at-an-inappropriate-time">inappropriate laughter.</a>

Posted by: Roy at October 13, 2012 10:20 AM (6f4I9)

129 Adding a laugh track is altering the footage.

Posted by: Hepcat at October 13, 2012 10:29 AM (frbyY)

130 Completely fails. That's an audience laughing and I would assume they are laughing at the speaker---Ryan. Not good.

Posted by: PC14 at October 13, 2012 10:41 AM (PFIGD)

131 ck. my blog for a Biden laugh track.

Posted by: Edward Cropper at October 13, 2012 10:48 AM (Lt3vg)

132 Just show grimming Biden looking into the camera saying: "Forget that I have fake hair, fake teeth and a fake, orange tan. You can trust me." Then show a behind the chair shot of what appears to be one hand behind his back with crossed fingers. Background music: Fool On The Hill

Posted by: PC14 at October 13, 2012 10:49 AM (PFIGD)

133 I want an ad with Biden saying they didn't know they wanted more security in Libya

They didn't know the troops wanted a stronger SOFA force, unannounced timetable

They didn't know it was a terrorist attack, (thought it was a parade?)

Repeating "we didn't know" and that was the intel we got.

Repeat those over pics of Obama with all his goofy Hollywood pals, on the golf course, at parties, etc.

Their excuse is "we didn't know" any better, while everyone else did know better. Rapid sequence of the ME violence, fewer workers, insurance rates up chart, gas prices ... with laughing Biden and Obama mixed.

If they want to tie Obama to Biden in "zeal", tie them together in "we didn't know" along with the maniacal laughs.

Posted by: Illini bill at October 13, 2012 11:04 AM (IaK/H)

134

The point is more a chance to get Paul Ryan saying all the right things.

But I do wonder, is the plan going to make 7 million jobs or 12 million?

I caught that during the debate... it needs clarity.

Posted by: petunia at October 13, 2012 11:11 AM (DAcBA)

135 When they do closeups of biden they should have a clown horn honking.

Posted by: Deathknyte at October 13, 2012 12:04 PM (HLTOf)

136 Meh. Too confusing.

Posted by: Book at October 13, 2012 12:05 PM (4rNTd)

137 Also this from Powerline

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/10/biden-vs-biden.php

Posted by: jbinnout at October 13, 2012 12:32 PM (F0sUa)