November 23, 2012

Egypt: Same Old Dictatorship But Now With Added Islamism!
— DrewM

Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood President declared himself a de facto dictator today.

Boy, no one saw this coming. Well if by "no one" you mean everyone who isn't a liberal foreign policy "expert".

A decree by Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi granting himself extensive new powers triggered dueling demonstrations Friday by supporters and opponents.

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Muslim Brotherhood officials said the measures were necessary to ensure the countryÂ’s full and healthy return to democracy.

“This level of immunity for presidential decrees is indeed unprecedented, but it is necessary, and it is controlled by a time frame” that ends with the election of a new parliament, said Gehad el-Haddad, a senior Muslim Brotherhood adviser. “This constitutional declaration cements the way forward in terms of time frame and powers.”

But the decision raised immediate concerns among many liberal activists who had already been worried that Morsi had taken a distinctly authoritarian air in the three months since he swept out the top ranks of the military and sidelined what had long been a powerful independent institution in Egypt. EgyptÂ’s short-lived parliament was dismissed by the countryÂ’s high court shortly before Morsi took power, so legislative powers also are concentrated under the president. Taking the courts out of the equation means there will be no judicial review of MorsiÂ’s decisions.

Ah yes, "we must have authoritarian rule to allow for freedom and democracy"-Stuff Jefferson Said, The Arabic Edition.

Fearless prediction: This latest step will be met with calls for greater aid and dialogue from the foreign policy grandees who not long ago sneered at people who warned that the Brotherhood would did this exact sort of thing.

One man, one vote, one time. Hope the Egyptian's enjoyed it while it lasted.

Reminder: Always trust content from DrewM. and Ace of Spades HQ. From my post the day Morsi won the presidency.

The military is trying to hold sway over things as long as they can and try and co-opt the Brotherhood. The reality is, revolutionary movements like the Brotherhood don't see elections as a charge to govern but an opportunity to increase power. Morsi will sound conciliatory and such but will leverage this victory to increase pressure on the military and to exercise greater control than whatever formal power he winds up [with].

Lots of optimistic talk among the usual suspects on CNN...the Muslim Brotherhood will be different or something. Personally, I think they've stood for things for decades, it seems insanely naive to think that they will suddenly moderate in victory.

Posted by: DrewM at 09:48 AM | Comments (273)
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1 I am shocked.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 23, 2012 09:50 AM (xR/ya)

2 Plop!

Posted by: Cicero's Monocle at November 23, 2012 09:51 AM (QKKT0)

3 I didn't see this coming at all.

Posted by: Stevie Wonder at November 23, 2012 09:51 AM (QKKT0)

4 SmartPower!

Posted by: Sir Hillary Edmund Rodham Clinton at November 23, 2012 09:51 AM (QKKT0)

5 But...but...but, weren't they supposed to be all freedomy, and stuff?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 23, 2012 09:52 AM (lOmbq)

6 Man, is it dark in here.

Posted by: Barky O'Headuphisass at November 23, 2012 09:52 AM (QKKT0)

7 Barack made a speech in Cairo, you know.

Posted by: fluffy at November 23, 2012 09:54 AM (z9HTb)

8 How unexpected....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at November 23, 2012 09:54 AM (XjXIN)

9 But, by all means, let's keep pouring money into that cesspool.  How I hate the Middle East.

Posted by: kathysaysso at November 23, 2012 09:57 AM (7nu1g)

10 Liberal foreign policy "experts" are like RINO Republican presidential campaign "experts". They are wrong repeatedly yet they get keep getting hired. I wish I could have a job where the more I'm wrong the more money I make.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 23, 2012 09:57 AM (xR/ya)

11 Thank God they got rid of that dictator Mubarak....no more dictators for them.  Phew......

Posted by: Tami at November 23, 2012 09:58 AM (X6akg)

12 At least the Egyptian democracy advocates have more balls than Americans  against  Baraka's shit.  They're demonstrating and setting fire to Morsi's offices.  Egyptians are fighting back, Americans are whimpering.

Posted by: Soona at November 23, 2012 09:58 AM (ImKJe)

13 And while I have my hate on, the UN can go fuck itself.

Posted by: kathysaysso at November 23, 2012 09:58 AM (7nu1g)

14 Hope the Egyptian's enjoyed it while it lasted.

Hope the Egyption's what enjoyed it while it lasted?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at November 23, 2012 09:58 AM (opLk0)

15 I wish I could have a job where the more I'm wrong the more money I make.

I can help you out on this.

Posted by: Calamity Jane Gorelick, Gub'mint Minted MultimillionaireGorelic at November 23, 2012 09:59 AM (QKKT0)

16 Maybe we should adopt a political platform involving no entangling foreign alliances, and no aid for other countries period? Conservativism. Maybe we should try it? We could tell the free shit brigade it's the only way to save their bennies.

Posted by: Hopeless at November 23, 2012 09:59 AM (CNwvS)

17 gee, it's just history repeats itself!

Posted by: mallfly at November 23, 2012 09:59 AM (bJm7W)

18 I think I finally reached LIB yesterday. It's surprisingly calming.

Posted by: Cat In A Velvet Robe at November 23, 2012 10:01 AM (MG6Y6)

19 But ... but ... the experts in the New York Times assured me that Arab Spring was mostly secular westernized college students and idealistic business people


Posted by: kbdabear at November 23, 2012 10:01 AM (wwsoB)

20 Wow- a country with zero history of democratic rule taken over by an Islamic thug. There is a reason for the phrase "He's an S.O.B , but he's our S.O.B." Realpolotic...bitch.

Posted by: jjshaka at November 23, 2012 10:01 AM (kGeYO)

21 ha, sucks to be the egyptians. hope they love living under sharia - egypt is all of the fun of saudi arabia or iran without the money and food.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 23, 2012 10:02 AM (Z9EHQ)

22 Peace in Our Time !!!!

On the side, how did he do that umbrella thing again?

Posted by: Neville Obama at November 23, 2012 10:03 AM (wwsoB)

23 So how long until the next Egypt-Israel war?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 23, 2012 10:03 AM (xR/ya)

24 Hey my dick licking coreligionist libs, please arrange a vacation to Egypt to promote understanding. Hopefully the Brotherhood will meet with you.

Posted by: Avi at November 23, 2012 10:03 AM (P2cVm)

25 Egypt has no money and not enough food to feed their population. That's pretty much the classic formula for war and plunder. If I was in Libya, I'd be concerned.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 23, 2012 10:03 AM (QupBk)

26 So, exactly how insane will the middle east get?

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at November 23, 2012 10:04 AM (zsHZY)

27 The secular students just got a Maine Surprise from Morsi

Posted by: kbdabear at November 23, 2012 10:04 AM (wwsoB)

28 May I borrow a nuke, please?

Posted by: Lara Logan at November 23, 2012 10:04 AM (bWwMZ)

29 BTW, For those of you interested in understanding what's going on in Egypt: Morsi has ensured peace on his Eastern flank (Israel). And all the attention is there. Now watch what the left (west) hand is doing. Several times before Egypt has made moves against Libya, and anti-Egyptian sentiment aided Gadafi's initial power grab decades ago. The Brotherhood now wields significant power in Libya, and Egypt could provide the military power Libya lacks to purge the last of the Old Regime (around Benghazi especially). And then get all that oil revenue back online. Those that resist in the Egyptian army get purged, those that participate get promoted, securing Morsi's power over the military.

Posted by: Hopeless at November 23, 2012 10:04 AM (WqqJb)

30 Latest decree by Egypt's new President-For-Life, Morsi: 

Egypt's new national anthem, "This Charming Man." 

Posted by: BurtTC at November 23, 2012 10:05 AM (BeSEI)

31 Have you tried the chocolate covered cotton?

Posted by: Milo Obama at November 23, 2012 10:05 AM (QupBk)

32 Surprise, Surprise, Surprise!

Posted by: gomer pyle US State Department at November 23, 2012 10:05 AM (zLp5I)

33 Brought to you by Ayers and Co. Inc.

Posted by: Zardoz the Great at November 23, 2012 10:05 AM (BAnPT)

34 23 So how long until the next Egypt-Israel war?
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 23, 2012 02:03 PM

Until we rearm from the latest "truce"

Posted by: Hamida Hamida Hamida at November 23, 2012 10:06 AM (wwsoB)

35 guess it is the end of the take you daughter to work day program, or send her to school program. good news is fewer drivers so less traffic, even better free clitorectimies thanks to morsi / obamacare.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 23, 2012 10:07 AM (Z9EHQ)

36 Was this another election that got the stamp of approval from Jimmah and his observers?

Posted by: kbdabear at November 23, 2012 10:07 AM (wwsoB)

37 Insist we much.

Posted by: Rev. Al Morsharpsi at November 23, 2012 10:08 AM (Mx87y)

38 So how long until the next Egypt-Israel war? Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 23, 2012 02:03 PM Until we rearm from the latest "truce" Posted by: Hamida Hamida Hamida at November 23, 2012 02:06 PM (wwsoB) yeah it is all civil war now, green on green, until they starve.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 23, 2012 10:08 AM (Z9EHQ)

39 And the SCOAMTT administration removed religion from human rights list, so any Copts seeking asylum here will have to get behind villages of Somali Muslims and such. Poor, poor Copts. They are screwed.

Posted by: Justamom at November 23, 2012 10:08 AM (Sptt8)

40

Egypt has no money and not enough food to feed their population. That's pretty much the classic formula for war and plunder.

If I was in Libya, I'd be concerned.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 23, 2012 02:03 PM (QupBk)

 

 

Islamic Society is peace loving and all our experts agree that that there is no risk of war in the mideast.  Barack Obama's respect in the mideast will prevent any conflicts. 

Posted by: gomer pyle US State Department at November 23, 2012 10:08 AM (zLp5I)

41 No doubt Choom Boy is already directing a few billion more to Morsi so that "Arab Spring" shit can flow along smoothly.

How do you say "reset" in Arabic?

Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at November 23, 2012 10:09 AM (yKUrR)

42 Hey, no more ghey pride parades.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at November 23, 2012 10:09 AM (zsHZY)

43 I'm not too sure how to post links, but I'll give it a shot.

Niall Ferguson called this in Feb of 2012, to the utter consternation of the entire MorningJoe panel. If you want to see earnest and optomistic Liberals get beatdown with the cluebat watch it all the way through.

Posted by: Don at November 23, 2012 10:09 AM (yv/Nx)

44 And the SCOAMTT administration removed religion from human rights list, so any Copts seeking asylum here will have to get behind villages of Somali Muslims and such. Poor, poor Copts. They are screwed. Posted by: Justamom at November 23, 2012 02:08 PM (Sptt good news is the copts are only a speed bump / warm up on the way to self annihilation.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 23, 2012 10:10 AM (Z9EHQ)

45 The brotherhood plays a long game, not a short game. As strange as it may seem, they don't want a war with Israel-- yet. Next on their list is Jordan. Demographics in Israel itself are not in the Jews favor. 40 more years and the Israeli electorate is predominately Muslim.

Posted by: Hopeless at November 23, 2012 10:10 AM (jKE+l)

46 "If you like your clitoris, you can keep your clitoris." Not

Posted by: Justamom at November 23, 2012 10:10 AM (Sptt8)

47 Bambi's jealous.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 23, 2012 10:10 AM (6JMZR)

48 This shit is why I read zombie novels to cheer myself up.

Posted by: eman at November 23, 2012 10:10 AM (bWwMZ)

49 You'd think at least Morsi would keep a toothless parliament around just to assure the foreign policy experts that Egypt was a fledgling democracy, or to have someone to blame his fuckups on

Posted by: kbdabear at November 23, 2012 10:10 AM (wwsoB)

50
where's nickless?

Posted by: soothsayer at November 23, 2012 10:10 AM (RRlrq)

51 So Morosi arms Hamas and has them attack Israel. Clinton has a sham meeting with him and suddenly there's a truce when he calls off his own thugs. While the world hails the great and glorious feat he declare his Obamaness and total power.

Posted by: Zardoz the Great at November 23, 2012 10:11 AM (BAnPT)

52 Hey, no more ghey pride parades. Posted by: Oldsailors poet at November 23, 2012 02:09 PM (zsHZY) egypt is going to have gay parades, however, instead of being in the parade they are going to be paraded.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 23, 2012 10:11 AM (Z9EHQ)

53 Mad TV News report answered the question: what's the difference between an Islamist and a terrorist? A: nobody knows.

Posted by: sTevo at November 23, 2012 10:11 AM (sYewh)

54 Head for the hills, boys.

Posted by: Greay Pyramid Complex Antiquities Division at November 23, 2012 10:11 AM (I8H+0)

55 Didn't work. I'll just add the link here, sorry. You really should check it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9slquoIuPC8

Posted by: Don at November 23, 2012 10:11 AM (yv/Nx)

56 And all because of an internet video.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 23, 2012 10:12 AM (6JMZR)

57 Demographics in Israel itself are not in the Jews favor. 40 more years and the Israeli electorate is predominately Muslim. Posted by: Hopeless at November 23, 2012 02:10 PM (jKE+l) long game? going full dictator is not the long game. demos are agaist the israelis in the long run but they are against the egyptians today.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 23, 2012 10:13 AM (Z9EHQ)

58 49 You'd think at least Morsi would keep a toothless parliament around just to assure the foreign policy experts that Egypt was a fledgling democracy, or to have someone to blame his fuckups on

Posted by: kbdabear at November 23, 2012 02:10 PM

THIS !!! +1,000

Posted by: King Barry the Blameless at November 23, 2012 10:13 AM (wwsoB)

59 None of this would have happened if Mitt hadn't threatened to shut down all the tampon factories.

Posted by: eman at November 23, 2012 10:13 AM (bWwMZ)

60 Mad TV News report answered the question: what's the difference between an Islamist and a terrorist?

It's the difference between motive and opportunity.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 23, 2012 10:14 AM (xSegX)

61 Guys come on lay off Obama. This is all Bush's fault. Not sure why or how, but I have been assured by the NYT that it is.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 23, 2012 10:14 AM (xR/ya)

62 The key to understand the brotherhood is this: they aren't dumb. They are highly educated. Often in the west. They recognize how to play serious politics. Economic contraction? Its a crisis, don't let it go to waste. Use the government to economically ruin families/tribes/businesses that don't support the brotherhood. Then when things change, only the brotherhood is left standing.

Posted by: Hopeless at November 23, 2012 10:14 AM (H1od7)

63 So how long until the next Egypt-Israel war?

Well they did move armor divisions into the Sinai last month....crap!

Posted by: Paladin at November 23, 2012 10:14 AM (B5UQ6)

64 "said Gehad el-Haddad, a senior Muslim Brotherhood adviser." When your advisors are named "Jihad," you oughtn't be surprised when you get this kind of advice.

Posted by: Sobek at November 23, 2012 10:14 AM (5DrDT)

65 59 This is not just a failure for Democrats. The Neo-Con wing of the GOP has egg on their faces as well. Those damn Nativists again.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 23, 2012 10:14 AM (GEICT)

66 Meet the New Boss, same as the Old Boss

Posted by: Pete Townshend at November 23, 2012 10:14 AM (wwsoB)

67 Fucking Romney.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 23, 2012 10:15 AM (QupBk)

68 BanHammer in full effect.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 23, 2012 10:15 AM (GEICT)

69 I really should have gone to Egypt to see the antiquities (pyramids, sphynx, museums and such) a few years back.  I have a feeling that those things will only be pictures now.

Posted by: Soona at November 23, 2012 10:15 AM (ImKJe)

70 I have a bad feeling about this.

Posted by: Aswan Dam at November 23, 2012 10:15 AM (bWwMZ)

71 Know what would reduce our carbon footprint? Well, you know how Egypt wants nukes and the SCOAMTT is dismantling ours?

Posted by: Justamom at November 23, 2012 10:15 AM (Sptt8)

72 he key to understand the brotherhood is this: they aren't dumb. They are highly educated. Often in the west. They recognize how to play serious politics. Economic contraction? Its a crisis, don't let it go to waste. Use the government to economically ruin families/tribes/businesses that don't support the brotherhood. Then when things change, only the brotherhood is left standing. Posted by: Hopeless at November 23, 2012 02:14 PM (H1od7) serious politics? mo one is playing politics, it is a plain old coup.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 23, 2012 10:15 AM (Z9EHQ)

73 But what about Mr Romney's GAAAAAFFFFSSS

Posted by: The MBM at November 23, 2012 10:16 AM (wwsoB)

74 'days of Rage"

oops we meant

'arab spring'


we meant  freeeedom,

oops sorry we meant dictatorship!

Posted by: willow at November 23, 2012 10:16 AM (hX8cq)

75 Stupidly cheap Craftsman bottom rollaway toolbox: http://tinyurl.com/bhqxw7x Git sum!!!

Posted by: DAve at November 23, 2012 10:17 AM (XDC0v)

76 I'm sure libya will do mucho better.

Posted by: willow at November 23, 2012 10:18 AM (hX8cq)

77 Boy, no one saw this coming. Well if by "no one" you mean everyone who isn't a liberal foreign policy "expert".


I love western foreign policy experts!

Posted by: The Scorpion at November 23, 2012 10:18 AM (wwsoB)

78 syria, your turn!

Posted by: willow at November 23, 2012 10:18 AM (hX8cq)

79 Mexican migrants are traditional supporters of Israel. Goes all the way back to the Mayans. Relax. We got this.

Posted by: GOP Leaders at November 23, 2012 10:18 AM (bWwMZ)

80 >>>Hope the Egyptian's enjoyed it while it lasted.

When the incubation period is over, President Snowman will be pondering the same strategy for America. 

Posted by: Fritz at November 23, 2012 10:19 AM (d8K+M)

81 And you know ol'jugears is sitting there thinking, "Mmmmmm, maybe that will work here..."

Posted by: Rob in Katy at November 23, 2012 10:19 AM (PiTBB)

82

You'd think at least Morsi would keep a toothless parliament around just
to assure the foreign policy experts that Egypt was a fledgling
democracy, or to have someone to blame his fuckups on

 

 

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Why??  Who's going to do anything about it?  The UN?  The US?  Europe?  

 

Morsi knows he  can do whatever the fuck he wants to do.

Posted by: Soona at November 23, 2012 10:19 AM (ImKJe)

83 Is there any pie left?

Posted by: GOP Leaders at November 23, 2012 10:20 AM (bWwMZ)

84 of course, the days of rage
were more accurate.

I'm glad they decided that might sound  displeasing to the world and changed their advertisement tosupporting  nice ,soft , fluffy  feeelings things instead.

Posted by: willow at November 23, 2012 10:20 AM (hX8cq)

85 57, Think like a liberal. The demonstrators are showing who they support. Now that Morsi has confirmed his power and oeestiege internationally (ensuring the US doesn't stop backing him like they did Mubarak) he can begin reprisals. The way enemies are fealty with in the ME are the same way liberals deal with them. Once you have enough power you kill them.

Posted by: Hopeless at November 23, 2012 10:20 AM (r4GuR)

86 I'm sure Soetoro has already proffered his heartfelt congratulations.  Maybe even a fruit basket . . .

Posted by: Peaches at November 23, 2012 10:21 AM (kpCLl)

87 I'm next. 2016, bitches!

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at November 23, 2012 10:21 AM (bWwMZ)

88 yeah the scoamf is probably at his desk tapping his finger tips together and saying "excellent, excellent, exactly what I had planned"

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 23, 2012 10:22 AM (Z9EHQ)

89 Newt's Lunar colony idea is looking better and better.

Posted by: eman at November 23, 2012 10:22 AM (bWwMZ)

90 And ... now ... it's ...

Springtime for Morsi and Egypt toooooo

Posted by: The Producers at November 23, 2012 10:23 AM (wwsoB)

91 PEACHEs! scoamf is probably calling morsi and asking for protips

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 23, 2012 10:23 AM (Z9EHQ)

92 Armored divisions were moved into the Sinai. The divisions that weren't loyal to Morsi. Now they are cut off from Cairo because they can't cross the Suez. In the ME politics is the art of getting away with exterminating your enemies and their families.

Posted by: Hopeless at November 23, 2012 10:24 AM (NKWFJ)

93 Morsi/Morsy/Mursi/Mursy. It reminds me a lot of Qaddafi/Khadafy/Ghadafi. Yeah, I realize that it's being transliterated from a different alphabet. Pick one and stick to it, journofuckwits.

Posted by: EveryOtherGuyInBangorME at November 23, 2012 10:24 AM (dpaZU)

94

'We must abandon  Freedom  to save Liberty'

 - stuff Jefferson said

Posted by: garrett at November 23, 2012 10:25 AM (3ZUNT)

95

Fruit basket?

 

Anderson Cooper was in Gaza last week, recording all the "atrocities".

 

Film on CNN.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is Eddie Willers at November 23, 2012 10:25 AM (Md8Uo)

96 Now he's due a bow.....pay up, Barky.

Posted by: BignJames at November 23, 2012 10:26 AM (rlFQ+)

97 This calls for a Muslim Brotherhood Cheerleader pic;

http://tinyurl.com/bfs3v23

Posted by: kbdabear at November 23, 2012 10:26 AM (wwsoB)

98 Not surprising at all. If you look at the left, they always want to suspend democracy to make democracy stronger.

Remember as he told everyone in Asia this week, even Obama pines to do away with opposition.

Posted by: MrCaniac at November 23, 2012 10:28 AM (Zd/NW)

99 "This level of immunity for presidential decrees is indeed unprecedented, but it is necessary,..."

Obama's taking notes, I bet...

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 23, 2012 10:28 AM (i0App)

100 This calls for a Muslim Brotherhood Cheerleader pic;

http://tinyurl.com/bfs3v23

Posted by: kbdabear at November 23, 2012 02:26 PM (wwsoB)

 

 

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Pointy elbows.

Posted by: Soona at November 23, 2012 10:29 AM (ImKJe)

101 But anyways, Morsi just weathers these riots, and then continues reprisals. The next big move will be the new Constitution, which us being drafted by Islamists. It will eliminate the secular judiciary and return all judicial mattersto the mosque. With that in place he will be free to pursue a union with Libya come springtime, and get the oil pumping for money. The Sinai becomes his gulag, as he has already promised to "make the deserts of the Sinai bloom" by new experiments in "collective farming and agriculture". That leaves him in a good position to either keep expanding in North Africa, or Jordan. Do not under estimate the Muslim brotherhood. These guys are serious and well educated.

Posted by: Hopeless at November 23, 2012 10:30 AM (ven16)

102 I'm pretty sure this is the WH response to the latest developments in Africa (SFW)

LINK:  http://preview.tinyurl.com/ydpy7wu

Posted by: mrp at November 23, 2012 10:30 AM (HjPtV)

103

If we could just have an election to fix all this....

 

Wait a minute. We just had an election.  And we fixed nothing.

 

As things get worse and worse, you just have to wonder,  when and how we touch bottom.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is Eddie Willers at November 23, 2012 10:30 AM (Md8Uo)

104 I think having a dictator is really cool and they get things done without idiots interfering

That Jew thing might be a problem for me down the road, but I'm sure that filmmakers get a free pass

Posted by: Woody Allen at November 23, 2012 10:31 AM (wwsoB)

105 Is there a problem here? Authoritarian rule can be very good for freedom, peace and prosperity.

Posted by: Thomas L. Friedman (Pulitzer Prize Winning Super-Author and Thinker Extraordinaire) at November 23, 2012 10:31 AM (+OLuJ)

106 I'll just put the head in...if you don't like it we can talk about it.

Posted by: Dictatorship at November 23, 2012 10:32 AM (dREhW)

107 I love how all these foreign policy experts did not see this coming but common sense people in fact saw this coming.

Just goes to show you, the more degrees an individual has, the more education an individual has, the less intelligent and blinder they are.

Posted by: Holger at November 23, 2012 10:32 AM (MHk3m)

108 This calls for a Muslim Brotherhood Cheerleader pic; http://tinyurl.com/bfs3v23 Posted by: kbdabear at November 23, 2012 02:26 PM (wwsoB) -------------------------------------------------------- Cool! Ninja Cheerleaders! Look at the rack on the one in front!

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 23, 2012 10:33 AM (jucos)

109 Egypt can't win a war against Israel even with all their American supplied toys. The country doesn't have the logistical backbone to support any kind of sustained conflicted without outside assistance. If they can't even maintain a sufficient supply of food on the home-front, there is no way they can maintain an army in the field. Syria is busy as well, so they won't be crashing the northern border any time soon either. A conflict would however embolden Iran to pull something.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at November 23, 2012 10:33 AM (KCvsd)

110 My prediction:

The Pyramids and the Sphinx will be destroyed by the end of the year.   This will be Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin's fault.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 23, 2012 10:33 AM (yTtpr)

111

Do not under estimate the Muslim brotherhood. These guys are serious and well educated.

Posted by: Hopeless at November 23, 2012 02:30 PM (ven16)

 

 

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And extremely violent.  Something westerners can't seem to grasp.  They want to rule the world, literally.

Posted by: Soona at November 23, 2012 10:33 AM (ImKJe)

112 Do not under estimate the Muslim brotherhood. These guys are serious and well educated. Posted by: Hopeless at November 23, 2012 02:30 PM

I have no doubt that their time spent in western universities taught them well how to use the right words and tactics to keep fooling leftists academics and foreign policy "experts" over and over and over again

Posted by: kbdabear at November 23, 2012 10:34 AM (wwsoB)

113 Pick one and stick to it, journofuckwits. I still think they do it on purpose because it makes the person more ethereal and tougher to rally against. Yes, they do think about that sh*t.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 23, 2012 10:34 AM (6JMZR)

114

The Pyramid and the Sphinx kaput?

 

I blame SMOD!

 

Okay, a little over to the right there.  Just hit Cairo straight on.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is Eddie Willers at November 23, 2012 10:35 AM (Md8Uo)

115

Egypt can't win a war against Israel even with all their American supplied toys. The country doesn't have the logistical backbone to support any kind of sustained conflicted without outside assistance. If they can't even maintain a sufficient supply of food on the home-front, there is no way they can maintain an army in the field.

 

 

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The fuck you say.  Ever heard of Russia and China?

Posted by: Soona at November 23, 2012 10:35 AM (ImKJe)

116 107, Liberals are liars. It's nit that this wasn't seen coming, it's that this is the intended outcome.

Posted by: Hopeless at November 23, 2012 10:35 AM (ven16)

117 My prediction:

The Pyramids and the Sphinx will be destroyed by the end of the year.

Oh, God, I hope you are wrong, atc. 

Posted by: Peaches at November 23, 2012 10:36 AM (kpCLl)

118 Col Crazy's all female body guards

http://tinyurl.com/azmmqyq

The guy knew how to roll phat.  This Morsi dude?  not so much.

Posted by: Dictatorship at November 23, 2012 10:37 AM (dREhW)

119 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz68vipCPjQ

Cat Stevens

Posted by: sTevo at November 23, 2012 10:37 AM (VMcEw)

120 And extremely violent. Something westerners can't seem to grasp. They want to rule the world, literally. Posted by: Soona at November 23, 2012 02:33 PM (ImKJe) They are in complete denial. (No pun intended.) To elitist Westerners what happens in other countries is never going to reach them. "Time to book a brunch reservation. Thai fusion or something really daring?"

Posted by: eman at November 23, 2012 10:37 AM (bWwMZ)

121 "A conflict would however embolden Iran to pull something." Medium term: I expect the Middle East to be controlled by Turkey, Iran, or a mixture of both (probably with continuous border warfare between the two). Long term: I expect it to be controlled by China. Unless Barky manages to kill off the oil industry faster than I thought, we should be energy independent by 2020. At which point: fuck the Middle East. Sideways.

Posted by: EveryOtherGuyInBangorME at November 23, 2012 10:38 AM (dpaZU)

122 Simultaneously unexpected and by design. Lapdog press, is there anything they can't do?

Posted by: Truman North at November 23, 2012 10:38 AM (I2LwF)

123 The Pyramids and the Sphinx will be destroyed by the end of the year. The Sphinx maybe, but what are you going to do to the pyramids? They're basically rock piles.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 23, 2012 10:38 AM (QupBk)

124 Oh, God, I hope you are wrong, atc.

Posted by: Peaches at November 23, 2012 02:36 PM (kpCLl)


Me too but I really doubt I will be.  The only possible upside to this is that I will get to laugh and laugh and laugh when the Left tries to explain how the destruction of one of the wonders of the world is actually an act of tolerance.



Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 23, 2012 10:39 AM (yTtpr)

125 "Oh, God, I hope you are wrong, atc. " It would not surprise me in the least. Look at what happened to the Buddhas in Afghanistan, or what's happening to the ancient Muslim (!) shrines in Timbuktu right now.

Posted by: EveryOtherGuyInBangorME at November 23, 2012 10:39 AM (dpaZU)

126 In December 2009, Dohrn and Ayers were among the 1,300 American and European activists who traveled to the Egypt-Gaza border to participate in a pro-Palestinian, anti-Israel demonstration led by Code Pink.


Posted by: willow at November 23, 2012 10:39 AM (hX8cq)

127 Egypt isn't looking for a war with Israel. The name of the game is delay, delay, delay. Buy Iran enough time to get the bomb and for the American economy to collapse. That was Osama's endgame from day 1, as he himself stated. That's why he went after financial targets like he did.

Posted by: Hopeless at November 23, 2012 10:39 AM (oYccn)

128 @orry discoverhenetworks

Posted by: willow at November 23, 2012 10:39 AM (hX8cq)

129 "the Left tries to explain how the destruction of one of the wonders of the world is actually an act of tolerance." Nah, it's going to be Bush's fault. Wait and see.

Posted by: EveryOtherGuyInBangorME at November 23, 2012 10:40 AM (dpaZU)

130 The Niall Ferguson video that Don linked is worth watching.

So, the Moslem Brotherhood is going to build a new UAR only it is going to be the United Islamic Republic this time, the original islamic republic in Iran is busy funding and training Hezbollah and using Syria for its bitch (BTW what is happening in Syria lately it has been kind of quiet), and the Turks are feeling frisky and dreaming of the glory days of the Sacred Porte. Is there any chance that if the rest of us keep our heads down they will go after each other instead? Apostates are more hated than infidels. Is there a way to encourage some intramural bloodletting?

This can only end in tears.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at November 23, 2012 10:40 AM (BF5Y9)

131 The Sphinx maybe, but what are you going to do to the pyramids? They're basically rock piles.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 23, 2012 02:38 PM (QupBk)


The cover them in wax idea was my personal favorite.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 23, 2012 10:40 AM (yTtpr)

132 Next on their list is Jordan.

He's busy monitoring the Texas legislature.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 23, 2012 10:41 AM (4Lo/K)

133 The Sphinx maybe, but what are you going to do to the pyramids? They're basically rock piles. Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 23, 2012 02:38 PM (QupBk) Start at the top. Leverage and gravity. You don't have to move the block anywhere, you just have to take the pyramid apart.

Posted by: eman at November 23, 2012 10:41 AM (bWwMZ)

134 We all knew here. Almost all of us, Every man women and child here. Of course we all knew who should have been elected President also. obama playing golf today?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 23, 2012 10:43 AM (jE38p)

135 ck blog for Morsi's new official portrait

Posted by: Edward Cropper at November 23, 2012 10:43 AM (Lt3vg)

136 Posted by: willow at November 23, 2012 02:39 PM (hX8cq)


willow, did you get into the special tea?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 23, 2012 10:43 AM (yTtpr)

137 Via Insty;

WILLY STERN: How David Petraeus Mastered The Media. “Every first-rate commander knows how to cultivate the media, and use the press to his (or her) advantage. Sadly, such commanders are hard to find today. . . . As such, we are losing the media war. Al Queda is very sophisticated at telling its story. The American military is not. . . . Even if the Obama crowd doesn’t admit it, we’re at war with radical Islam. The media is an important battlefield in that war. The enemy is engaging. Many of our best commanders are not. Result: We lose.”

http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/158286/

Posted by: kbdabear at November 23, 2012 10:44 AM (wwsoB)

138 Next on their list is Jordan. It's only a matter of time. The shrimp king better turn on the electricity in his Palm Beach house.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 23, 2012 10:44 AM (jE38p)

139 Wiki says the GP is made up of 2.3 million blocks of limestone.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 23, 2012 10:44 AM (QupBk)

140 There's only one thing that can save the Middle East from total annihilation:  Sweet, succulent pork, and pork products.

Posted by: Fritz at November 23, 2012 10:45 AM (d8K+M)

141 You don't have to move the block anywhere, you just have to take the pyramid apart.

You may find trapped Mondoshawans if you do that.

Posted by: Leeloo Moolteepass at November 23, 2012 10:45 AM (4Lo/K)

142 alex, hahaha,  no but it seems so .

at the best of times my comments are befuddled. toda really sad.

 hands your tea to you.

Posted by: willow at November 23, 2012 10:45 AM (hX8cq)

143 >>>> I realize that it's being transliterated from a different alphabet. Pick one and stick to it, journofuckwits.<<<<<

Absolutely. Further I don't give a damn what the PRC calls it now it is Peking. And Bombay. And Burma, etc..etc....

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at November 23, 2012 10:46 AM (BF5Y9)

144

Instapundit highlighted and linked to a new book on Amazon by Andrew McCarthy "Islamic Democracy: The Illusion of the Arab Spring"

 

In the comments on the book page, someone wrote about their experience in Tunisia in 1968, talking with 3 Tunisian teachers co-workers.  They  (the three) discussed the ultimate ascendancy of Islam even then.  1968.  He realized then that he really didn't know these guys he was working with.  1968.

 

It's out there, and has been out there.  For years.  Of course people that know or suspect tend to want to keep the crap game going for as long as possible to get their cut of the take. I'm sure that even now people are working at MSNBC and CNN and the other networks to put on a show discussing what this "really means" and to tell us plebes not to worry our silly little heads about it.  Because Top Men are working on the problem.

Top. Men.       And of course.......Hillary!

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is Eddie Willers at November 23, 2012 10:46 AM (Md8Uo)

145 The reviews for that Craftsman Tool Chest are bad.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 23, 2012 10:46 AM (QupBk)

146 Syria continues to be a clusterfuck of unmitigated proportions. No one wants it resolved. Keeping it in chaos stops Israel from harvesting all the hydrocarbons in the leviathan and kraken deposits. In addition, it allows Europe to distract from it's many domestic problems via NATO.

Posted by: Hopeless at November 23, 2012 10:46 AM (DzWOc)

147 Fucking Romney and the socons.

Posted by: RWC at November 23, 2012 10:46 AM (tzJPE)

148 The Pyramids and the Sphinx will be destroyed by the end of the year.

The Sphinx maybe, but what are you going to do to the pyramids? They're basically rock piles.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 23, 2012 02:38 PM (QupBk)

 

 

---------------------------------------------

 

 

I worry more about all the artifacts in the museums.  And remember  when all the countries around the world gave back all the most precious of these a few years back because it made them FEEL less guilty about taking them?

 

King Tut's coffin is gold.  Could buy a nuclear bomb from Iran with what that's worth.  Or from Russia  or China, for that matter.

Posted by: Soona at November 23, 2012 10:46 AM (ImKJe)

149 hands your tea to you.

Posted by: willow at November 23, 2012 02:45 PM (hX8cq)


Thank you, willow.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 23, 2012 10:47 AM (yTtpr)

150 More sound thinking about the ME on this thread than we've had the last 60+ years from the State Department.  OK, not a high bar.

Posted by: Gary Rosen at November 23, 2012 10:47 AM (Kz60W)

151 Virginity checks all around, bartender!

Posted by: The Muzztard Brotherhood at November 23, 2012 10:47 AM (QKKT0)

152 Yup, Syria will fall to fundamentalists, as will Jordan and Saudi Arabia... then we'll be in for a treat as Egypt, Iran & Turkey all fight it out to figure out who gets to run the new caliphate.

Posted by: Timin203 at November 23, 2012 10:48 AM (5WxMt)

153 I say to you, Jordan is Hashemite today and will remain Hashemite to tomorrow!

Posted by: Abdullah II, Hashemite Through and Through at November 23, 2012 10:49 AM (QKKT0)

154 Remember, the brohood's draft constitution included marriage to nine year old girls.

Posted by: Justamom at November 23, 2012 10:49 AM (Sptt8)

155 Peace in the Middle East, you say? I'm ready.

Posted by: smallpox at November 23, 2012 10:49 AM (bWwMZ)

156 Regarding the Neiall Ferguson interview -- http://tinyurl.com/atw5pny

This isn't just a clue bat, it's regular bat, applied liberally.

Posted by: dantealiegri at November 23, 2012 10:50 AM (mHU03)

157 All aboard!

Posted by: Handbasket at November 23, 2012 10:51 AM (AWmfW)

158 Remember, the brohood's draft constitution included marriage to nine year old girls.

Posted by: Justamom at November 23, 2012 02:49 PM (Sptt

 

Ah, yes, but you cannot consumate the marriage until she's 13... Same's true in Iran. They follow the teachings of Muhammed, peace be upon him, who married a girl at 9, but waiting for a few years before becoming a full-fledge pedo

Posted by: Timin203 at November 23, 2012 10:51 AM (5WxMt)

159 Peace in the Middle East, you say?

I'm ready.

Posted by: smallpox at November 23, 2012 02:49 PM (bWwMZ)

 

Me too.

Posted by: Thurm O. Newklar at November 23, 2012 10:51 AM (JJ+PT)

160 then we'll be in for a treat as Egypt, Iran Turkey all fight it out to figure out who gets to run the new caliphate. Posted by: Timin203 at November 23, 2012 02:48 PM (5WxMt) Well Egypt and Turkey are Sunni and Iran is Shia. That will be the divide and the point of contention.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 23, 2012 10:51 AM (jE38p)

161 @148: Hopefully some western millionaire will be the one buying them, and then this time we won't give it back to them until they are a democracy ..

Posted by: dantealiegri at November 23, 2012 10:52 AM (mHU03)

162 Peace in the Middle East, you say? I'm ready. Posted by: smallpox at November 23, 2012 02:49 PM (bWwMZ) ----------------------------------------------------- Wait for us!

Posted by: Plagues and Pestalances at November 23, 2012 10:52 AM (jucos)

163 Peace in the Middle East, you say? I'm ready. Posted by: smallpox at November 23, 2012 02:49 PM (bWwMZ) ----------------------------------------------------- Wait for us! Posted by: Plagues and Pestalances at November 23, 2012 02:52 PM (jucos) ------------------------------------------------------ Be right there.

Posted by: Locusts at November 23, 2012 10:53 AM (jucos)

164 I say blow the sphinx and the pyramids to smithereens...  Great Britain acquired quite a lot of the Antiquities in the past...

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at November 23, 2012 10:54 AM (9+ccr)

165 Well Egypt and Turkey are Sunni and Iran is Shia. That will be the divide and the point of contention.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 23, 2012 02:51 PM (jE38p)

 

That definitely will be a point of contention. The bigger one will be who gets to lead the caliphate. Don't think for a second that the pious leaders of these countries aren't power hungry SOBs... Yeah, they all want a caliphate, but they all see themselves as the leaders. I don't think any of them want to cede THEIR soverignty and power to anyone

I'd say Turkey will probably eventually win out.

Oh, how history repeats itself.

Posted by: Timin203 at November 23, 2012 10:54 AM (5WxMt)

166 Remember how bad the Shaw of Iran was.....Then they had that "democratic" revolution and got all democraticky and stuff.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 23, 2012 10:54 AM (SkyIE)

167 Remember, the brohood's draft constitution included marriage to nine year old girls.


And the freshly dead.

Posted by: fluffy at November 23, 2012 10:55 AM (z9HTb)

168 162 Peace in the Middle East, you say?

I'm ready.
Posted by: smallpox at November 23, 2012 02:49 PM (bWwMZ)
-----------------------------------------------------
Wait for us! Posted by: Plagues and Pestalances at November 23, 2012 02:52 PM

Got you all beat


Posted by: Food shortages and price inflation at November 23, 2012 10:55 AM (wwsoB)

169 And the freshly dead.

Posted by: fluffy at November 23, 2012 02:55 PM (z9HTb)

 

Not sure if that made the final cut in their bill of rights or not, but good memory, I'd forgotten about that story haha

Posted by: Timin203 at November 23, 2012 10:55 AM (5WxMt)

170 Somewhere around the Nile:

"Pharoah Obama, you are amazing! Finally an American who understands the Jewish menace!"

"Yes. It's good to be god-king, Pharoah Morsi. And don't call me American again." 

"Eminently reasonable , Allah be praised. More Jewish infant blood pudding , Pharoah Obama?"

"No, thank you, still gnawing on this Israeli thigh bone, Pharoah Morsi. You must give my chef the recipe!"

"Pharoah Obama, I could tell your chef the secret .... but then I would have to kill him! ha ha ha "

"Well Pharoah Morsi, we will just have to insure that he is a filthy Hebrew and that he has a competent understudy! "

"Now , about Operation Fast and Furious - Palestine ..."





Posted by: Egyptian fly on the wall at November 23, 2012 10:56 AM (EZl54)

171 That definitely will be a point of contention. The bigger one will be who gets to lead the caliphate. Don't think for a second that the pious leaders of these countries aren't power hungry SOBs... Yeah, they all want a caliphate, but they all see themselves as the leaders. I don't think any of them want to cede THEIR soverignty and power to anyone I'd say Turkey will probably eventually win out. Oh, how history repeats itself. Posted by: Timin203 at November 23, 2012 02:54 PM (5WxMt) Since obama will do nothing but the wrong thing, our best hope is that they will kill each other without to much collateral damage. Fingers crossed. And Israel, remember what trump said : Location location location. Ya really fucked that one up. Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 23, 2012 10:56 AM (jE38p)

172 And the freshly dead. Posted by: fluffy at November 23, 2012 02:55 PM (z9HTb) -------------------------------------------------------- When they are fresh you can still do stuff to 'em and it is not too creepy.

Posted by: Jeffrey Dahmer at November 23, 2012 10:56 AM (jucos)

173  Hopefully some western millionaire will be the one buying them, and then this time we won't give it back to them until they are a democracy ..

Posted by: dantealiegri at November 23, 2012 02:52 PM (mHU03)

 

 

----------------------------------------------

 

 

No.  Keep them.   As long as there's muzzies in  Egypt, they'll  never be  safe, period.

Posted by: Soona at November 23, 2012 10:57 AM (ImKJe)

174 123 The Pyramids and the Sphinx will be destroyed by the end of the year.

The Sphinx maybe, but what are you going to do to the pyramids? They're basically rock piles. Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 23, 2012 02:38 PM

You break 'em, you bought 'em

Posted by: Ancient Aliens at November 23, 2012 10:57 AM (wwsoB)

175 >>>>Well Egypt and Turkey are Sunni and Iran is Shia. That will be the divide and the point of contention.<<<<<

There is going to be an ethnic divide, too.

Turk vs Persian vs Arab.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at November 23, 2012 10:58 AM (BF5Y9)

176 Since obama will do nothing but the wrong thing, our best hope is that they will kill each other without to much collateral damage. Fingers crossed. And Israel, remember what trump said : Location location location. Ya really fucked that one up. Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 23, 2012 02:56 PM (jE38p)

 

Oh, yeah, Israel is definitely boned. How do you think any country will prove that they're the real leaders of the caliphate? Follow through on years and rhetoric and wipe Israel off the map, maybe? I would expect Israel to be gone / severely damaged before the infighting starts. Common enemy.

As for us... I think it'll be a while before this issue DIRECTLY confronts us, but it will eventually

Posted by: Timin203 at November 23, 2012 10:58 AM (5WxMt)

177 WTF is Bibi waiting for? Hit Iran before it is too late.

Posted by: eman at November 23, 2012 10:59 AM (bWwMZ)

178 @ 171 Nevergiveup

The ceasefire has raised the prestige of the Muslim Brotherhood. Obama has turned them into heroes.

Posted by: Marxists kill my Twinkies at November 23, 2012 10:59 AM (idyso)

179 Mother of suspect in TA bombing: He's innocent As court extends remand of Israeli citizen suspected of planting explosive device on bus No. 142, his relatives and neighbors in Arab city of Tayibe rush to his defense. 'Everything that has been said about him is a lie,' his mother says Yeah sure, just the kind of boy i hope on of my ( Jewish) daughters bring home?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 23, 2012 10:59 AM (jE38p)

180 I'm ready.
Posted by: smallpox

-----------------------------------------------------

Wait for us!
Posted by: Plagues and Pestalances

Got you all beat
Posted by: Food shortages and price inflation

Aaaall we are saaaaying, is give peeeece a chaaaance~

Posted by: $5billion US aid package [/i] [/b] at November 23, 2012 10:59 AM (ON54M)

181 # 176 Timin203

They are killing each other in Syria.

Posted by: Marxists kill my Twinkies at November 23, 2012 11:00 AM (idyso)

182 177 WTF is Bibi waiting for?

Hit Iran before it is too late.

Posted by: eman at November 23, 2012 02:59 PM (bWwMZ)

Because the Israelis can't guarantee they'll get all of the nuclear material without American support... and its kind of an all or nothing deal, because you know hell with rain down on Israel after the bombing, and they do not want a dirty bomb to be a part of that.

Oh, and in the past when israel did these "rogue" operations, it was with a wink and nod from the US govt... They know we had their back if shit hit the fan.

In this current situation, Europe with condemn Israel no matter what, and I wouldn't place a bet on the US getting Israels back if it comes down to it.

Posted by: Timin203 at November 23, 2012 11:01 AM (5WxMt)

183 178 @ 171 Nevergiveup The ceasefire has raised the prestige of the Muslim Brotherhood. Obama has turned them into heroes. Posted by: Marxists kill my Twinkies at November 23, 2012 02:59 PM (idyso) Absolutely correct. One of the worst fuck ups ( or intentional with this admin) in modern political history no doubt and Netanyahu is guilty also.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 23, 2012 11:01 AM (jE38p)

184 Oh, yeah, Israel is definitely boned. How do you think any country will prove that they're the real leaders of the caliphate? Follow through on years and rhetoric and wipe Israel off the map, maybe? I would expect Israel to be gone / severely damaged before the infighting starts. Common enemy. As for us... I think it'll be a while before this issue DIRECTLY confronts us, but it will eventually Posted by: Timin203 at November 23, 2012 02:58 PM (5WxMt) -------------------------------------------------------- The U.S. will be long gone as a functioning entity before Israel ever is. Israel will survive and thrive in the end.

Posted by: Jeffrey Dahmer at November 23, 2012 11:02 AM (jucos)

185 The Pyramids and the Sphinx will be destroyed by the end of the year. Old-ass, hoopty chariot-drivin' 1%ers forced the 99% to build them. Imma teach 'em a lesson.

Posted by: The Idiots at November 23, 2012 11:03 AM (qLxQ4)

186
They are killing each other in Syria.

Posted by: Marxists kill my Twinkies at November 23, 2012 03:00 PM (idyso)

 

Well, the jihadists, who are backed by the US & Iran (!!) are trying to overthrow the crazy dictator backed by Russia.

Kind of similar to Benghazi. But when the Islamists inevitably win, Syria will go full out terrorist instead of just half assed terrorist

Posted by: Timin203 at November 23, 2012 11:03 AM (5WxMt)

187 How  dare  you  racist  sexists  criticize  me?!   Or  call  me  butterface?!

Posted by: Susan Rice at November 23, 2012 11:03 AM (wIgpo)

188 Free ride!

Posted by: Handbasket at November 23, 2012 11:03 AM (AWmfW)

189 @ 183 Nevergiveup

Did you see those IDF soldiers that spelled out Bibi Loser in Hebrew

Posted by: Marxists kill my Twinkies at November 23, 2012 11:04 AM (idyso)

190 Posted by: Timin203 at November 23, 2012 03:01 PM (5WxMt) That's my thinking, too, but the election is over. Do it now while there is still a chance the USA will do what's right.

Posted by: eman at November 23, 2012 11:04 AM (bWwMZ)

191 Well, the jihadists, who are backed by the US Iran (!!) are trying to overthrow the crazy dictator backed by Russia. Kind of similar to Benghazi. But when the Islamists inevitably win, Syria will go full out terrorist instead of just half assed terrorist Posted by: Timin203 at November 23, 2012 03:03 PM (5WxMt) Yup. As bad as Qaddafi and Assad were/are, they are still better than the alternative. And we all knew that here also.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 23, 2012 11:04 AM (jE38p)

192 Free ride! Posted by: Handbasket at November 23, 2012 03:03 PM (AWmfW) ------------------------------------------------------ I know where we're going!

Posted by: Jeffrey Dahmer at November 23, 2012 11:04 AM (jucos)

193 12 At least the Egyptian democracy advocates have more balls than Americans against Baraka's shit. They're demonstrating and setting fire to Morsi's offices. Egyptians are fighting back, Americans are whimpering. Posted by: Soona at November 23, 2012 01:58 PM (ImKJe) The trick is to keep as many suckers believing as long as possible, that they get to be in on the action. Morsi needs to learn to "lead from behind." Remember, communism/totalitarian-label-dujour is merely socialism in a hurry.

Posted by: BuddyPC at November 23, 2012 11:04 AM (jfUIE)

194 Well Egypt and Turkey are Sunni and Iran is Shia. That will be the divide and the point of contention.<<<<<

There is going to be an ethnic divide, too.

Turk vs Persian vs Arab.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at November 23, 2012 02:58 PM (BF5Y9)

 

 

----------------------------------------------

 

 

I don't care how they fight it out, except that the US needs to beseech Iran  to give us all their Persian women first. 

Posted by: Soona at November 23, 2012 11:05 AM (ImKJe)

195 The U.S. will be long gone as a functioning entity before Israel ever is. Israel will survive and thrive in the end.

Posted by: Jeffrey Dahmer at November 23, 2012 03:02 PM (jucos)

Let me guess... your bible told you so? Because, realistically, they're a small, socialist (I like to throw that in, I know its not important for this list), heavily minority country (as in, they are surrounded by Arabs), whose neighbors have sworn to their destruction.

I'd rather be the US right now than Israel... Without US support, UN-armed Turkey & Egypt, with Iran & its proxies.... I don't know dude, that is a very very multi-front war they'd be looking at.

Posted by: Timin203 at November 23, 2012 11:05 AM (5WxMt)

196 Did you see those IDF soldiers that spelled out Bibi Loser in Hebrew Posted by: Marxists kill my Twinkies at November 23, 2012 03:04 PM (idyso) No, I did not see that, but I read and also heard from friends in Israel that many of the Soldiers are pissed.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 23, 2012 11:05 AM (jE38p)

197 @ 186 Timin203

I read Hezbollah has been getting its ass kicked by the Nursa front, which is AL Qaeda's Syrian affiliated. The Muslim Brotherhood is behind the Free Syrian Army.

Posted by: Marxists killed my Twinkies at November 23, 2012 11:06 AM (idyso)

198 @173: You are assuming that it necessarily precludes that ..

Posted by: dantealiegri at November 23, 2012 11:06 AM (mHU03)

199 Lets elect more college professors to be president because they are SOOOOOPER SMART.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 23, 2012 11:06 AM (SkyIE)

200 @ 196 Nevergiveup.

Here you go!

http://tinyurl.com/bjh4fn4

Posted by: Marxists killed my Twinkies at November 23, 2012 11:07 AM (idyso)

201 I don't care how they fight it out, except that the US needs to beseech Iran to give us all their Persian women first. Posted by: Soona at November 23, 2012 03:05 PM (ImKJe) We'll get all the ones with back hair and no neck.

Posted by: eman at November 23, 2012 11:08 AM (bWwMZ)

202 US has concerns about Morsi's moves Commenting on Egyptian president's decision to assume sweeping powers, State Department calls for adoption of constitution that includes checks and balances, respects 'fundamental freedoms, individual rights, and the rule of law consistent with Egypt's international commitments' ??? But just yesterday Morsi was the greatest thing since Twinkies? Come on State, admit it, you trusted a Muzzi, you fucked up!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 23, 2012 11:08 AM (jE38p)

203 Let's not spin the ceasefire. It was a victory for the Muslim Brotherhood over Israel. The Israelis look like cowards in the face of the Islamic world. They appeared to back from fighting Hamas because the Muslim Brotherhood made them.

Posted by: Marxists killed my Twinkies at November 23, 2012 11:09 AM (idyso)

204 "All males under 16 years old...are now...16 years old."

Posted by: Corona at November 23, 2012 11:09 AM (fh2Y7)

205 Here you go! http://tinyurl.com/bjh4fn4 Posted by: Marxists killed my Twinkies at November 23, 2012 03:07 PM (idyso) Thanks. That is great.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 23, 2012 11:09 AM (jE38p)

206 25 Egypt has no money and not enough food to feed their population. That's pretty much the classic formula for war and plunder. If I was in Libya, I'd be concerned. Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 23, 2012 02:03 PM (QupBk) How much of a shithole must your own country be to see Libya as a garden spot?

Posted by: Truman North at November 23, 2012 11:11 AM (I2LwF)

207 195 Yes my bible did tell me that. I am far more willing to believe it than you. Israel has always fought against great odds. They never cease to surprise. Anyone who has ever come up against and or persecuted the Jewish People always lose in the end.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 23, 2012 11:13 AM (jucos)

208 Let's not spin the ceasefire. It was a victory for the Muslim Brotherhood over Israel. The Israelis look like cowards in the face of the Islamic world. They appeared to back from fighting Hamas because the Muslim Brotherhood made them. Posted by: Marxists killed my Twinkies at November 23, 2012 03:09 PM (idyso) Absolutely. No matter how many FGR 5 missiles they took out or how much damage they did to Hamas, the Arabs view it as a victory. Just like when Israel surrounded the Egyptian 3rd Army in Sinai.Since Israel did not wipe them out it was a great Victory for the Arabs.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 23, 2012 11:13 AM (jE38p)

209 Remember the protests in Iran where a young woman named Neda was gunned down and our fearless leader reacted to the news by going for ice cream? That was one of History's decision points. And here we are.

Posted by: eman at November 23, 2012 11:14 AM (bWwMZ)

210 Yes my bible did tell me that. I am far more willing to believe it than you. Israel has always fought against great odds. They never cease to surprise. Anyone who has ever come up against and or persecuted the Jewish People always lose in the end. Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 23, 2012 03:13 PM (jucos) I'm Jewish and have friends and relatives in Israel and would like to think your right, but in the Atomic Age, I have my doubts.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 23, 2012 11:15 AM (jE38p)

211 Not a surprise, but I disagree with the sentiment that being pro-Arab-Spring is a liberal thing.  While not a surprise, what exactly do you propose we, the USofA, should have done differently?  Send troops to help Mubarak remain a dictator?  40 years of his rule financed by us is one of the major contributing factors to the problems in Israel and the rise of the Brotherhood to begin with.  The Egyptians have a rough road ahead but it is one they must travel on their own if they ever want to advance as a people.

We should be far more concerned with our own dictators here at home.

Posted by: Andrew at November 23, 2012 11:15 AM (zxFKo)

212 Remember the protests in Iran where a young woman named Neda was gunned down and our fearless leader reacted to the news by going for ice cream? ------------------------------------------------------------- Wow. At least he didn't jet off to Vegas.

Posted by: Zombie Ambassador Christopher Stevens at November 23, 2012 11:15 AM (jucos)

213 from NYT farticle - (so you don't have too!)
 
Mr. Obama talked with Mr. Morsi three times within 24 hours and six times over the course of several days, an unusual amount of one-on-one time for a president. Mr. Obama told aides he was impressed with the Egyptian leaderÂ’s pragmatic confidence. He sensed an engineerÂ’s precision with surprisingly little ideology. Most important, Mr. Obama told aides that he considered Mr. Morsi a straight shooter who delivered on what he promised and did not promise what he could not deliver.


sucker

 

Posted by: T. Hunter - let it burn at November 23, 2012 11:17 AM (EZl54)

214 In Geneva, a spokesman for the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights also said MorsiÂ’s decree raises serious concerns.

Serious concerns!!! Shit just got real! If Morsi doesn't invite the UN to an extravagant conference, they'll be forced to issue a STRONGLY WORDED LETTER  !!!!
 

Posted by: Ancient Aliens at November 23, 2012 11:18 AM (wwsoB)

215 Not a surprise, but I disagree with the sentiment that being pro-Arab-Spring is a liberal thing. While not a surprise, what exactly do you propose we, the USofA, should have done differently? Send troops to help Mubarak remain a dictator? 40 years of his rule financed by us is one of the major contributing factors to the problems in Israel and the rise of the Brotherhood to begin with. The Egyptians have a rough road ahead but it is one they must travel on their own if they ever want to advance as a people. We should be far more concerned with our own dictators here at home. Posted by: Andrew at November 23, 2012 03:15 PM (zxFKo) Would the "Arab Spring" have transpired exactly the same without obama in power? Who knows. But that speech in Cario and his fawning trips to Turkey and forthright rejection of Israel and Mubarak sure did not help. If we had not lifted a finger to help the Libyan rebels would Qaddafi have fallen? IF you remember he was on the verge of defeating the rebels when we interceded. And if we had backed Mubarak and the Egyptian Military?.... Who knows. But at every step we backed the wrong side

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 23, 2012 11:18 AM (jE38p)

216 Pointy elbows.



But check out them hawt ankles on the chick (I think) on the right!

And I'm glad to see Obama is spreading the "unprecedented" around the world.  That will end well I'm sure.

Posted by: NC Ref at November 23, 2012 11:20 AM (zXJin)

217 Mr. Obama talked with Mr. Morsi three times within 24 hours and six times over the course of several days, an unusual amount of one-on-one time for a president. Mr. Obama told aides he was impressed with the Egyptian leaderÂ’s pragmatic confidence. He sensed an engineerÂ’s precision with surprisingly little ideology. Most important, Mr. Obama told aides that he considered Mr. Morsi a straight shooter who delivered on what he promised and did not promise what he could not deliver. sucker Posted by: T. Hunter - let it burn at November 23, 2012 03:17 PM (EZl54) That quote is indicative of the absolute incompetence of obama and this admin and their approach to the Middle East and the world. They should impeach the fucker for abject ignorance.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 23, 2012 11:20 AM (jE38p)

218

 Let's not spin the ceasefire. It was a victory for the Muslim Brotherhood over Israel. The Israelis look like cowards in the face of the Islamic world. They appeared to back from fighting Hamas because the Muslim Brotherhood made them.
Posted by: Marxists killed my Twinkies at November 23, 2012 03:09 PM (idyso)

 

 

-----------------------------------------------------

 

 

I'm not going to cast dispersions on Bibi just yet.  I'm  also a little disappointed that he didn't let loose  the IDF.  I have a feeling that Dear Leader's regime had a lot to do with it.   Bibi may have made an agreement with us, but  Baraka's regime turned around and announced that the credit belongs to Morsi.

 

It's how Dear Leader and his state dept. roll now.

Posted by: Soona at November 23, 2012 11:20 AM (ImKJe)

219 In related news Bill Kristol and Karl Rove, as new consultants to the Egyptian secular democracy party, have suggested that the secularists adopt a pro-Jihad platform and demand immediate War with Israel in order to better promote their democratic values and provide a moderating influence on the Muslim Brotherhood.

Posted by: Daybrother at November 23, 2012 11:22 AM (+paCV)

220 40 years of his rule financed by us is one of the major contributing factors to the problems in Israel and the rise of the Brotherhood to begin with.

Posted by: Andrew at November 23, 2012 03:15 PM

Skyrocketing food prices and shortages were the spark. They don't really give a shit about who's in charge otherwise

Posted by: Ancient Aliens at November 23, 2012 11:22 AM (wwsoB)

221 Posted by: Andrew at November 23, 2012 03:15 PM (zxFKo) No. Moobie was needed to prevent an Islamist takeover of Egypt. Islamists killed Sadat, remember? Our mistake was not replacing Moobie sooner. Do I sound like a scheming Imperialist? Perhaps you'd like to discuss the finer points of constitutional republics with the Muslim Brotherhood and all the other Caliph-wannabes?

Posted by: eman at November 23, 2012 11:23 AM (bWwMZ)

222 I'm not going to cast dispersions on Bibi just yet. I'm also a little disappointed that he didn't let loose the IDF. I have a feeling that Dear Leader's regime had a lot to do with it. Bibi may have made an agreement with us, but Baraka's regime turned around and announced that the credit belongs to Morsi. It's how Dear Leader and his state dept. roll now. Posted by: Soona at November 23, 2012 03:20 PM (ImKJe) Bibi has made a career of backing down to US Presidents. And worse of all after publicly making a pretense of not doing that, thus making it doubly bad when he does. He did it with Clinton at the Wye River conference. This is why I never like Netanyahu and never will trust him--politically. I don't question his courage in battle, but as a politician and natinal leader he sucks. At least that is how I feel

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 23, 2012 11:23 AM (jE38p)

223 Obama talked with Mr. Morsi three times within 24 hours and six times
over the course of several days

So Morsi's like Obama's Corey Hotline.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 23, 2012 11:24 AM (4Lo/K)

224 @216 

incomput tents ...?

in peach...ice cream?

((yawn))

ooh! Honey Boo Boo!

Posted by: EBT Card Nation at November 23, 2012 11:26 AM (EZl54)

225 One step closer to a nuclear Cairo, and by nuclear I mean nuclear wasteland after they try to attack Israel.

Posted by: ray at November 23, 2012 11:26 AM (wl2vr)

226

The reality was that Mubarak was an old man, and when he died or ceased to be able to rule, there was going to be a power struggle.  The Arabs have no historical notion of a Constitutional Republic or democracy. Orthodox  Islam  (Orthodox and historical , not  'Fundamentalist')  describes and proscribes all aspects of life, leaving no room for the social activities and personal choices which have been typical of Western democracies.

 

As long as Islam exists ( and it will still be here after we are all dust) there can be no real "democracy"  alongside of it.

 

I just wish we could keep them out of this country.  It disturbs me mightily to see Islamic social practices in public in this country that holds that all men (and women) are equal under the law.  As Islam grows within this country, democracy will begin to be besieged by their beliefs and superstitions.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is Eddie Willers at November 23, 2012 11:28 AM (Md8Uo)

227 210 Yes my bible did tell me that. I am far more willing to believe it than you. Israel has always fought against great odds. They never cease to surprise. Anyone who has ever come up against and or persecuted the Jewish People always lose in the end.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 23, 2012 03:13 PM (jucos)

Sigh. Fine.

Posted by: Timin203 at November 23, 2012 11:29 AM (5WxMt)

228 By the way this power grab my Morsi ( and I have to give him credit for his timing) is a huge story and is hardly being covered in the MSM.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 23, 2012 11:29 AM (jE38p)

229 I'm Jewish and have friends and relatives in Israel and would like to think your right, but in the Atomic Age, I have my doubts.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 23, 2012 03:15 PM (jE38p)

 

 

------------------------------------------------

 

 

Israel will prevail,  nuclear bombs or not.  And yes, I beleive the Bible when it tells me that.  So much of what it teaches about humankind and it's relation to God has been spot on.  

 

I also believe the Bible when it says that God will bless those who bless Israel.  We've  re-elected a president,  and a senate that  shows disdain toward our brothers in Israel.  Look around at where we're at.  

Posted by: Soona at November 23, 2012 11:31 AM (ImKJe)

230

Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood President declared himself a de facto dictator today.

 

Bronco Bama can only look on and sigh wistfully. If only Soros would give him the order ...

Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 23, 2012 11:32 AM (4u2LN)

231

This is not the power grab you were looking for!

 

Look ! Boehner and the Republicans!  Romney's gafffffes!  Kardashians! Black Friday sales!!!  X-Factor!

 

Nonsense white noise obscuring the relevant facts of the day.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is Eddie Willers at November 23, 2012 11:32 AM (Md8Uo)

232 Well, at least over here we dodged the Mormon Menace.

Posted by: eman at November 23, 2012 11:33 AM (bWwMZ)

233 Obama talked with Mr. Morsi three times within 24 hours and six times over the course of several days, an unusual amount of one-on-one time for a president.

bitch won't quit stalking me.

/call block ON

Posted by: Benevolent Supreme Dictator-Caliph for Life Morsi at November 23, 2012 11:33 AM (EZl54)

234 It's not a dictatorship. It's a tax.

Posted by: Justice Roberts at November 23, 2012 11:34 AM (bWwMZ)

235 Gramscian Whores of the Caliphate!

Posted by: A Distant Echo from Planet Babbazee at November 23, 2012 11:35 AM (rzTDZ)

236 Truman, Libya has lots of oil and other hydrocarbons. And it hasn't been re-surveyed in 25 years. There is a not-small possibility that there is as much oil in Libya and off the coast of Egypt as there is in Saudi Arabia. That's what the brotherhood is after.

Posted by: Hopeless at November 23, 2012 11:37 AM (q7YYY)

237 Thank God Palin was never elected. Can you imagine the gaffes? Besides, Bush's fault. Tax the 1% and then tax the next 1%, etc. The Islamists are our new partners in peace. If only Israel would stop building apartments and claiming Jerusalem is her capital.

Posted by: The New more Forward Administration at November 23, 2012 11:37 AM (+paCV)

238 Okay, who let one?

Posted by: I Been Farteen at November 23, 2012 11:38 AM (YYyqq)

239 It's important to remember that the brotherhood envisions the entitled of North Africa as a single Islamic republic, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Morrocco. A single currency, a single Islamic constitution, a single military. And with that much coastline, you start needing a Navy. Now are some of you clowns getting why Obama is fucking the navy and marines so badly?

Posted by: Hopeless at November 23, 2012 11:42 AM (q7YYY)

240 @ 219 Daybrother

Karl Rove and Bill Kristol both supported the Muslim Brotherhood.

Posted by: Marxists killed my Twinkies at November 23, 2012 11:43 AM (idyso)

241 This level of immunity for presidential decrees is indeed unprecedented Oh, I don't know...

Posted by: Baraka Obama at November 23, 2012 11:43 AM (FcR7P)

242 @ 237 The New more Forward Administration

The Bushies supported the Arab Spring.

Posted by: Marxists killed my Twinkies at November 23, 2012 11:44 AM (idyso)

243 As Islam grows within this country, democracy will begin to be besieged by their beliefs and superstitions. Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is Eddie Willers at November 23, 2012 03:28 PM

But they'll still be OK with gay marriage, right? It's only the religious right that is persecuting us!

Posted by: Lefty pounding a square peg into a round hole at November 23, 2012 11:45 AM (wwsoB)

244 send in the MARINES !!!  that seemed to work so well in Iraq. Maybe it will be even better this time

Posted by: occam at November 23, 2012 11:51 AM (71sq+)

245 hey wasn't it the neocons who think that we could make it all good in Iraq?

Posted by: occam at November 23, 2012 11:52 AM (71sq+)

246 "Yes my bible did tell me that. I am far more willing to believe it than you. Israel has always fought against great odds. " Israel didn't even exist between 37 BC and 1948.

Posted by: EveryOtherGuyInBangorME at November 23, 2012 11:52 AM (dpaZU)

247 Israel didn't even exist between 37 BC and 1948.

Posted by: EveryOtherGuyInBangorME at November 23, 2012 03:52 PM (dpaZU)

 

Heh. But don't worry, the bible will protect them THIS time.

Posted by: Timin203 at November 23, 2012 11:55 AM (5WxMt)

248 "Would the "Arab Spring" have transpired exactly the same without obama in power? Who knows. But that speech in Cario and his fawning trips to Turkey and forthright rejection of Israel and Mubarak sure did not help. If we had not lifted a finger to help the Libyan rebels would Qaddafi have fallen? IF you remember he was on the verge of defeating the rebels when we interceded. And if we had backed Mubarak and the Egyptian Military?.... Who knows. But at every step we backed the wrong side"

His speech in Cairo didn't inspire the Arab Spring.  I don't mean to be haughty, but for you to even suggest that tells me you don't get the Middle East at all.  This has been a long time coming, what do you think 9/11 was about?  This has been a many decades long struggle. 

I wholeheartedly agree that we shouldn't have gotten involved in Libya, but not because we were picking the "wrong side."  Qadafi was a bad guy, and on a personal level I'm 100% with the rebels.  Just as I'm 100% with the Egyptians who wanted Mubarak gone.  But I disagree with our involvement because how in the hell do we think we can direct other people's affairs when we can't even direct our own?  Leadership comes through example.  And not to mention the fact that it's just plain unconstitutional.  While I may feel bad for the people in Libya, who cares, it's not moral to force my neighbor to spend his hard earned money on it. 

And I disagree that Obama has turned his back on Israel.  How?  Is Israel in ashes?  When is Israel going to start paying for its own darn defense?  Just in case the message hasn't gotten put out - WE'RE BROKE! 

Posted by: Andrew at November 23, 2012 11:58 AM (zxFKo)

249 " Israel has always fought against great odds. They never cease to surprise. Anyone who has ever come up against and or persecuted the Jewish People always lose in the end."

What a bunch of horse squeeze.  The history of the old/new testament is one of the people in that part of the world being forever corrupt and selfish and prideful, always forgetting their creator and being destroyed naturally as a simple result of their bad behavior.  I seem to remember something about someone being crucified too.

I'm just saying, who exactly are these great hero's you're so in love with?

Here in the USA what are the jewish people known for.  Liberal media, liberal hollywood, liberal banking, corrupt liberal politics in places like NY, Chicago, etc. 

I'm not hating on jews, I have a lot of respect for them.  But if the shoe fits.  What are the jewish people in Israel or the USA doing to advance the cause of freedom and individual liberty.  Forgive me, I don't see much.  I see a tiny tiny tiny fraction of the worlds population and geographic land mass which seems to dominate our news and foreign policy.  It's asinine. 

Posted by: Andrew at November 23, 2012 12:11 PM (zxFKo)

250 Apropos of nothing, The IgnoreUsers plugin is the Shizzle. http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/142617

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 23, 2012 12:32 PM (QupBk)

251 Posted by: Andrew at November 23, 2012 04:11 PM (zxFKo) Oh look, it's Hitler's cousin Andrew.

Posted by: eman at November 23, 2012 12:37 PM (bWwMZ)

252 America generally tries to follow a policy of "diminishing dictators" (named after a theory I came up with). 

Basically, keep supporting 'progressively less bad' dictators which still need US support to stay in power (and to beat the last dictator we supported). 

Eventually, the last dictator will be weak enough you can get a democratic government in there.  And the populace has had time to gradually 'moderate/modernize'.

Surprisingly, Obama took that arc and reversed it.  Color me shocked.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at November 23, 2012 12:54 PM (X/+QT)

253 25 Egypt has no money and not enough food to feed their population. That's pretty much the classic formula for war and plunder. If I was in Libya, I'd be concerned. Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 23, 2012 02:03 PM (QupBk) Funny thing is, the Nile Delta is plenty fertile enough to feed the population if properly modern growing techniques are used. And of course, if you don't have a society that values death and corruption above freedom and free markets.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 23, 2012 01:20 PM (c2oll)

254 TO: American Subjects
FROM:  Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton

Osama Bin Laden is dead.  Al Qaeda is decimated.  Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood are moderate and proDemocracy.

We urge Congress to expand financial aid to Egypt to help it through this difficult transition.

Posted by: gracepmc at November 23, 2012 01:23 PM (rznx3)

255 Don't discount polygamy in Egypt. Currently 25% of all marriages within the first 3 years. According to my mathematic calculation that leaves a lot of single guys with no hope whatsoever, and looking for war.

Posted by: IBT at November 23, 2012 01:30 PM (2t6Gz)

256

Well somebody's pissed. Good luck with this.

http://tinyurl.com/a6zjk3h.

Posted by: harleycowboy at November 23, 2012 01:43 PM (+9AX9)

257 Get the feeling that this latest Gaza "uprising" was staged precisely for the benefit of Morsi, so he could have a little pretense before he assumed the emperor throne? And Barky was in on it.

What did we get in return? Protection for our little king in Jordan? No more underpants bombers?

Or simply nothing.

Posted by: PJ at November 23, 2012 01:48 PM (ZWaLo)

258 158 Remember, the brohood's draft constitution included marriage to nine year old girls.
Posted by: Justamom at November 23, 2012 02:49 PM (Sptt

Ah, yes, but you cannot consumate the marriage until she's 13... Same's true in Iran. They follow the teachings of Muhammed, peace be upon him, who married a girl at 9, but waiting for a few years before becoming a full-fledge pedo

Posted by: Timin203 at November 23, 2012 02:51 PM (5WxMt)


Wrong, sport. mohammed married Aisha when she was but six years old, and began porking her when she reached the ripe old age of nine. And he used her for "thighing" before that.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 23, 2012 01:55 PM (pFqpP)

259 Ah yes, "we must have authoritarian rule to allow for freedom and democracy"-Stuff Jefferson Said, The Arabic Edition.
+++

"Thou shalt kill the unbelievers"- stuff god said in The Bible, The Arabic Edition

Posted by: Shibumi at November 23, 2012 02:07 PM (z63Tr)

260 Wow! We Americans are now one with our brothers and sisters in Egypt. Well, close... they had an honest election.

Posted by: den1313 at November 23, 2012 02:19 PM (yMk61)

261 Hey, it worked for W ("IÂ’ve abandoned free market principles to save the free market system").

Oh, wait. It didn't work. It failed horribly. Oh, well...

Posted by: RoadRunner at November 23, 2012 02:40 PM (A19NC)

262 TFG elevated Morsi to the peace pact between Israel and Hamas. TFG is now more flexible because that was his last election. We are screwed! Cut off funding to Egypt, forever!

Posted by: CarolT at November 23, 2012 02:43 PM (z4WKX)

263 Heh. But don't worry, the bible will protect them THIS time.

Maybe, but I'm guessing it'll be their nuclear arsenal.

Posted by: Dictatorship at November 23, 2012 02:46 PM (dREhW)

264

Hey 261, what planet have you been on? What were the democrats that controlled congress doing while Bush was doing all those things?

1. Were they just stupid and didn't know what was going on?

2. Were they complisit in the scams?

3. Were they bullies that forced Bush into line by contant cries of impeachment and indictment?

Think about it... We now have a one party dictatorship. Enjoy! 

Posted by: den1313 at November 23, 2012 03:08 PM (yMk61)

265 So there was no Islamism in Mubarak's Egypt? Muslim Brotherhood founded in 2011? Having protestors trash MB offices and chant that they want to overthrow the MB government proves the MB is getting stronger? Having Mubarak faithful rule badly and discredit secular government for decades is better than having the MB rule badly and discredit themselves for a few months? All seems really odd to me. Ah yes, "we must have authoritarian rule to allow for freedom and democracy"-Stuff Jefferson Said, The Arabic Edition. And stuff Mubarak supporters said when hoping his regime would stay 'strong'.

Posted by: Snake Oil Baron at November 23, 2012 04:32 PM (RKeHi)

266 Why hasn't B+rry done this? The muzzies are more politically adept than him?

Posted by: torabora at November 23, 2012 06:30 PM (j5ex0)

267 B+rry can foment another Egyptian-Israeli war, and hust when the muzzies are about to get eviserated he can sent in Hillary to call a cease fire and The Killa Zero can get another Nobel for himself, for being all clever and devious and shit.

Posted by: torabora at November 23, 2012 06:34 PM (j5ex0)

268 "By the way this power grab my Morsi ( and I have to give him credit for his timing) is a huge story and is hardly being covered in the MSM"

Let me know when the MSM covers anything that could embarrass The Lightworker.  Then we can go down and have a snowball fight with Dahmer, Bundy, Hitler and Stalin.

Posted by: Gary Rosen at November 23, 2012 09:09 PM (Kz60W)

269 "I'm not hating on jews, I have a lot of respect for them."

Coulda fooled me.

Posted by: Gary Rosen at November 23, 2012 09:13 PM (Kz60W)

270 #235 BZ "Gramscian Whores of the Caliphate!" This dishwasher is laughing hard. Ow, my back.

Posted by: Taqiyy. at November 23, 2012 09:53 PM (e7KZr)

271

Prior to the Egyptian election the Muslim Brotherhood said they wouldn't even run a candidate for President so you can trust them that Morsi's power grab is necessary and has a time limit.

Obama's middle east plan is shaping up.

Posted by: Markon at November 24, 2012 05:49 AM (sLafu)

272 Meet the new boss, worse then the old boss.

Posted by: deepred at November 24, 2012 08:53 AM (YmACv)

273 Well, it certainly was nice of him to wait until AFTER the election so his buddy Obambi wouldn't have the power grab come up in a debate or something. I mean, we all KNEW the "Arab Spring" was really more like an Arab Winter, and we all KNEW that this was not going to end well. I hope we can get a responsible leader in the White House before it's too late. I hope we can just hold on for another 4 years before the next world war breaks out. Obama is such a stupid naive man child. Why America re-elected this dunce is beyond me.

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at November 24, 2012 04:15 PM (2/oBD)

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