120

Posted by: dananjcon at March 28, 2012 12:25 PM (8ieXv)

I'm sorry, dananjcon...was that a reference from a Spike Lee movie, or joist...or whatever he used to call those things he made?

121 Again, where's the staunch "constitutional" Republican pretty girl Florida Attorney General public stand on behalf of public and private safety for Floridians?

And what has "race" to do with the negligence of public officials to prevent ANY organized racism, specifically from black supremacist vigilante violence: New Black Panther bounty?

Are the old "Humble" couple black? Vicious cycle bites in the ass, Spikey.

122 Spike Lee and Kathy Griffin starring in...nothing.

123 I've never watched a Spike Lee movie.  What have I missed?

124 Their grief at the loss of this guy they didn't know can only be assuaged by free snack cakes and lip gloss. It's a cultural norm we can't be expected to understand.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at March 28, 2012 12:28 PM (ZKzrr)

LOL. The granddaughter of a friend is acting like she lost a family member and making sure everybody knows it - all over facebook, the 21st century version of the visitors' book at the funeral home.

125 @117

My thoughts exactly.

126 "LOL, is that tipping Island man??" No, this is another shithead. Former Black Panther, Bobby Rush.

127 I've never watched a Spike Lee movie. What have I missed?

Not much.

128 Billy Bob, it was sluggish for me a few minutes ago, but did come up.  Maybe the hamster wheels are temporarily overloading. 

129 This is exactly how the Race-Baiting Left and MFMin generalare responding to the facts. They. Don't. Care.

Yup. They still talk about how the cries for help were from TM. And they still insist it was racism that motivated the whole thing.

130 That elderly couple acted stupidly. 

131 We're going to need our Troops home for the summer stat, fuck Afghanistan!

132 why was bobby rush dressed as the unibomber?

133

I've never watched a Spike Lee movie. What have I missed?

 

Posted by: mrp

 

 

 

 

 

Nothing.  You've missed nothing.

134 Doesn't that seem quite...arbitrary?Posted by: Lady in Black

Um, is there another answer besides 'yes?'

135 Oh, and wouldn't you know it: LEE'S ADDRESS RETWEET VIOLATED TWITTER RULES http://tinyurl.com/c8e83dg ...not to mention it being a despicable act. If anything happens to this couple (or Zimmerman for that matter), Lee et al should be held as accessories. Furthermore, both Zimmerman and this elderly couple should sue the shit out of everybody involved in this witch-hunt.

136 why was bobby rush dressed as the unibomber?

Because he's a race-baiting prick.

137 Media outrage over this in 3 (centuries)...2 (centuries)....

138

SERIOUS QUESTION -

Who brought this news story up from the local level to the national level?  I don't necessarily care which person specifically, but which news entity?  I honestly do not know.

 

BUT, I am willing to wager that it was one who was suffering a lapse in relevancy as a result of the recent Critical Race Theory airing.

CRT got vetted.  People who base their entire livelihood on raaaaacism, particularly of the white -> black variety, realized that their grasp on the importance of their opinions was slipping, so someone quickly sends a research intern on a quest to find the most recent news-story that could serve as a "Grim Reminder."

Zimmerman was the unlucky schlub that happened to be part of a story that looked like a good fit for the "need," at least at first-glance.  I've said it before, and I'll say it again, if his last time stereotypically reflected his ethnicity, this story would have been passed on by the "national spotlight deciders."

139 If they're trying to go somewhere no-one will find them, they don't need a hotel. All they need is a theatre playing "Girl 6".

140 I wonder if the SCOTUS strikes down the mandate.. would Obama run on single payer ?

141 ...having a bad sock day.

142 Are they white?  Well, it's okay then.

143 That Marcus person who initially revealed the address is insisting it's the right address even now.  he claims the news reports that it's wrong is just a conspiracy to protect Zimmerman.

The lynching is still on, apparently.

144 would Obama run on single payer ?

I believe he's planning to run on Cil Whitey.

145 Even if the ass clown did get the address right. He had business or right to do it. Is he advocating people showing up to do what?

146 I've never watched a Spike Lee movie.

I've made that mistake twice.  Never again.  Really lousy shit.

147 I've never watched a Spike Lee movie. What have I missed?

Don't ask me, Man!!

148 That Marcus person who initially revealed the address is insisting it's the right address even now. he claims the news reports that it's wrong is just a conspiracy to protect Zimmerman.

What a stupid fucking asshole. 

149 next......spike lee's twitter was hacked...........

150 This hoodie thing might be able to be used against the left.

151 147 Even if the ass clown did get the address right. He had business or right to do it. Is he advocating people showing up to do what?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 28, 2012 12:42 PM (1Jaio)

I believe he encouraged his Twitter followers to "reach out and touch" the house's occupant.  (Heard on Fox this morning.)

152 I believe he's planning to run on Cil Whitey. Posted by: toby928© at March 28, 2012 12:42 PM (GTbGH) and.....Rich white liberals would still vote for him.

153 Ummm Yankeefith, I don't think he hates people because some ancestors owned slaves, his ancestors owned slaves so that doesn't make much sense. Posted by: Drider at March 28, 2012 12:29 PM (HaJD9) so what is your point? if spike were a reasonable man he would not have tweeted anyone's address in regard to these events. even if he wanted revenge against zimmerman he should have known better than to place his entire family in danger. spike does not need to be constrained by reason.

154 Do the Right Thing had Rosie Perez's tits in it, so there's that.

155 151 next......spike lee's twitter was hacked...........

Posted by: phoenixgirl at work at March 28, 2012 12:43 PM (h8UT+)

 

 

 

Hey, it could happen!

156 Who is Bobby Rush suppose to be dressed like, I don't get it.

157 Right now, God's got three Angels holding Andrew B back in Heaven.  In my mind, he's shouting "Ten minutes and a twitter account is all I need!" 

158 158,

Average thug in America.

159 Any other asshole celebrities retweeted? Sue 'em all.

160 I can't tell the rest of you not to tweet.  If I were king of the world, however, I would advise you all to avoid having any word of your tweeting reach my royal ears.  It would be bad for you if it did.  Very bad. 

161 Looks like the MFM got the distraction they were looking for so they don't have to report on Obamacare in the Supreme Court.

162 Sue the miserable little shit until he begins thinking wistfully about the sweet embrace of black death.

163 Has spike--or any of the other racebaggers, for that matter--critcized the elderly couple for their bigoted and racist fear of black people? If not yet, soon. 

164 I want to ask my FB black friends (but I know they'll get angry at me if I do) but: Why is it ok to be racist in response to racism? I mean: Are the"pussy ass cracker" t-shirts an acceptable response to what happened?

What would Martin Luther King say?

Also, would the left be ok with giving out Spike Lee's address? How about where he likes to eat?

How about we post Sandra Fluke's address on the internet? Is that ok?

165 hopefully after spike gets sued he will have to give up the court side seats and star selling beer in the cheap seats.

166 Who is Bobby Rush suppose to be dressed like, I don't get it.

Trayvon Martin.  Because a local police matter is now apparently something that needs to be addressed on the House Floor.

167   120 Posted by: dananjcon at March 28, 2012 12:25 PM (8ieXv)
I'm sorry, dananjcon...was that a reference from a Spike Lee movie, or joist...or whatever he used to call those things he made?

Posted by: 66chevelle at March 28, 2012 12:35 PM (QjSgY)

**

I vaguely remeber a commercial he did with Micheal Jordan??? "Do ya know" was his catch phrase in the commercial.

**

I'll you tube it.

 

168 Right now, God's got three Angels holding Andrew B back in Heaven. In my mind, he's shouting "Ten minutes and a twitter account is all I need!"
Posted by: Alex at March 28, 2012 12:46 PM

169 Here's a new meme to get started -- possible convenience store signs:
 
It's been 17 days since the last looter was shot here. Safety first!
 
We double our employee's paycheck when they shoot a looter
 
Our clerks are so well armed even I am a little afraid to come in here
.......signed, The Owner
 
Today's Special - 2 for 1 looter caskets
 
Automatic 10% Discount to any licensed concealed weapon carriers

170 is there a reason that racists like the klan and libtards are both enamored with hoods?

171 it is probably on craigslist .

172 Bobby Rush should have been escorted directly to a health clinic for a drug test.

173

"Their grief at the loss of this guy they didn't know can only be assuaged by free snack cakes and lip gloss. It's a cultural norm we can't be expected to understand. "

 

Aww, dawg, don't front.  This be EASTER SEASON!  I loaded my hoodie up with Cadbury cream eggs like I was some sorta tubbie!  Bok bok!

174 Who is Bobby Rush suppose to be dressed like, I don't get it.

Posted by: Drider at March 28, 2012 12:45 PM (HaJD9)

A corrupt, grand standing, race baiting former Black Panther thug

175 Best tweet on topic, from yesterday: "RT @TheBlkInformant: I would own Spike's "40 acres and his mule" over this."

176 What would Martin Luther King say?

MLK Jr's philosophy lost out to Malcolm X's.  They may pay lip service to MKL Jr, but they emulate Malcolm X.

177 @172 - they were all started off early, in grade school.  By the DUNCE cap.

178 169
120 Posted by: dananjcon at March 28, 2012 12:25 PM (8ieXv) I'm sorry, dananjcon...was that a reference from a Spike Lee movie, or joist...or whatever he used to call those things he made?
Posted by: 66chevelle at March 28, 2012 12:35 PM (QjSgY)
**
I vaguely remeber a commercial he did with Micheal Jordan???"Do ya know" was his catch phrasein the commercial.
**
I'll you tube it.

Posted by: dananjcon at March 28, 2012 12:48 PM (8ieXv)

**

Meh...fuck it. Not important, the sight of that fuckin weasel makes me sick.

 

179

I thought his Malcom X movie was ok....mainly because of Denzel (with an assist from Rog of What's Happenin'? fame). Malcom X did have a conversion late in life where he realized that the black (or any race)-supremicism thing was all bullshit, which is why The NOI had him killed. At least Lee didn't whitewash that part of the story or gin up some phony CIA murder consipracy.

But I totally hated the few other Lee films that I've looked at. Do the Right Thing was the most hateful, racist piece of trash I've ever had to sit through.

180 What would Martin Luther King say? MLK Jr's philosophy lost out to Malcolm X's. They may pay lip service to MKL Jr, but they emulate Malcolm X. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 28, 2012 12:50 PM (8y9MW) yeah, did you see the statue of mlk on the mall. he is standing there like a thug, not at all like he was pictured during the protests.

181 The display of ignorance is overwhelming. It's all good.

182 one of the most awesome things about being black is that you don't have to pretend to like Spike Lee movies like white people do.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 28, 2012 12:00 PM (21lBC)

Hahahahahaha!

183 "Maybe America must move toward a Democratic Socialism."

184 176 Who is Bobby Rush suppose to be dressed like, I don't get it.

Posted by: Drider at March 28, 2012 12:45 PM (HaJD9)


A corrupt, grand standing, race baiting former Black Panther thug

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 28, 2012 12:50 PM (1Jaio)

 

 

 

Doesn't need a hoodie for that...

185 one of the most awesome things about being black is that you don't have to pretend to like Spike Lee movies like white people do. Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 28, 2012 12:00 PM (21lBC) Hahahahahaha! Posted by: baldilocks at March 28, 2012 12:52 PM (T2/zQ) if you have a twitter account you should tweet that before someone else does.

186 They were already in hoodies. It was the next logical action. Posted by: Geraldo Rivera at March 28, 2012 Whorealdo was right about that. My dad used to tell us how way back in the 50s, he stopped getting hassled by cops when he started wearing chinos instead of levis, engineer boots & a leather jacket. Yeah, this is a brand spanky new phenomena & only pigmented people get profiled due to their apparel.

187 185 "Maybe America must move toward a Democratic Socialism."

Da!

188

rdbrewer, you have mail!

 

189 Wow!  The LA Times is convinced that Obamacare is going to get tossed out completely.

http://tinyurl.com/76yefvx

After yesterday, I figured the most likely outcome was the mandate going out, but the law staying.  The BIGGEST tell from today was the Government signalling they would accept the mandate being removed in exchange for dropping the preexisting condition rule.  But the justices weren't buying it.  Even Ginsberg, trying to keep the law alive, talked about "fixing" the law.

I am much more confident than I was yesterday.

190

Anyone listening to Rush?  He's on a roll.  

191 That couple Better Call Saul!

192 @193 - Funneh Fail.

193 So what's the difference between a Michael Moore film and a Spike Lee film?

194

"Anyone listening to Rush? He's on a roll. "

  

OM NOM NOM!

 

(sorry, couldn't resist)

195 113. Rush is shocked, SHOCKED, that the SCOTUS doesn't function as a typical jury, arguing round table. "That goes to show just how out-of-touch the SCOTUS is from the rest of us." Hm. That could be a sign of ignorance.

I'm not into law. But really, who is shocked to "find" that Supreme Court Justices WRITE their opinions? Law specialists, kindly set this protocol (if historically consistent) straight for us.

IF the SCOTUS protocol in question has altered over time, when and how? IF the SCOTUS protocol still stands as ever, wouldn't expecting them to alter protocol in order to modernize and reflect current standards of communication be another reflection of revisionism. Is Rush advocating revisionism, the modernization (abbreviation, omiting due process) of constitutional governmental protocol? 

Rush might function well as a cheerleader. But he's no scholar. He holds his gossip pulpit on his own. Good for him. But times are dire, and he needs to do more homework in order to enhance his quality of effort and results. Why should the Republican POTUS campaign, for instance, get derailed and off course because Rush dropped the skank bomb?

196 Rep. Hank Johnson (D-Georgia): "He (Trayvon) was executed for 'WWB' in a 'GC.' Walking While Black in a Gated Community."




Ummm...Hank, Guam is on line one. It needs you to over there ASAP to stop from tipping over

197 Hmmmmmm, what else can I add to my AR-15 platform it looks like a Swiss army knife already.

198

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 28, 2012 12:56 PM (lpWVn)

 

 

okay!

199 sounds like microman spike lee and twitter owe someone a house.

200

Ipso Facto, yer honor.  With the Primary Facey of the evidence, we move for Summerary Judgement.

 

Judge:  Motion granted.  I find in favor of the Plaintiffs in the amount of Defendant Lee's net worth. [bangs gavel]  Next case.

201 >>all over facebook, the 21st century version of the visitors' book at the funeral home.

Funeral homes have online visitors' books now. Allows people to do the awkward "you don't know me, but your grandmother was kind to me when I was a child" thing from three states away.

202

Posted by: Zombie Robert Byrd at March 28, 2012 12:55 PM (hXJOG)

*

E Z pal...not cool.

203

1. A shooting, with facts in dispute.

 

2. Mobs use the sheer force of their numbers to demand an arrest despite facts being in dispute. 

 

3.  Faction of mob puts $10,000 bounty on head of the shooter.

 

4. Activist director retweets address of shooter.

 

5. America!

204 Uhm, Panzer?  Rush Limbaugh comes from a long line of lawyers and judges.  There is a Rush Limbaugh courthouse in Missouri named after his grandfather (also named Rush).

I think he knows how the legal system works pretty well.

205 Somewhat harse I know, but Trayvon has learned a little something about an armed society. As for Spike, still no lawsuit? Sad. and suing for the Knicks tickets would be fucking precious.

206

@193 - FAIL.

This is what happens when one of the trolls has nothing trolly to say, so instead they pull something like this, screenshot it, and then run back to Media Matters with PROOTH!

207 Has anyone seen the video of the thug high school "walk-out" in Miami on Fox? The bastards ran next door to a Walgreens and trashed it. The security video caught the fuckwits running in and out of the store. Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 28, 2012 12:11 PM (PJ+vx)



Yes.  Some of them dropped their IDs in the store.

::::building bunker::::

208

What does dressing like the unibomber have to do with running the huse of representatives. And why wasn't Rush tazed. I would have had him tazed when he ignored the gavel. Good thing they don't let me run things.

209 I just tweeted the Reggie Miller choke picture. That's all I remember about Spike Lee. I have never seen any movie that idiot made.

210 I reported Spike Lee to twitter for spam. Petty and inconsequential? Sure, but it felt nice to do it.

211

That Marcus person who initially revealed the address is insisting it's
the right address even now. he claims the news reports that it's wrong
is just a conspiracy to protect Zimmerman

 

Also immaterial. For many, many American blacks, the target doesn't matter. Any excuse to rob, assault or kill ANY white will do.  Don't make the mistake of trying to apply reason or logic to their actions or gibberings. 

 

They. Don't. Care.

 

Don't you see?  The bulk of our black population is effectively... Our very own Palestinian refugee camp.

 

And no, that is not hyperbole.  They are taught to hate whites with an unreasoning and paranoid fervency only found in your finer Wahhabi madrassas. Only they have names like "Mt. Zion Full Gospel Church of God in Christ."

 

I grew up surrounded by blacks. I went to school with them, worked alongside them. Hired them. Fired them. On an individual basis, I get along with most of them. Just like whites or any other.

 

But I'm here to tell you that the unthinking rage and resentment in the black community is WORSE today than it was 30 years ago. These mob assaults on whites - that's only going to get worse.  Mark my words.

212 Was reading post 82 "Whether in the swing states or not, the black voters will all go for Obama. The only point of all this frenzy seems to be to increase turnout, which will be high anyhow. While this may increase turnout somewhat, that increase is only on less than 15% of the voting public. The backlash, however, might turn out more working-class whites to vote than would have. Will their votes go against Obama, and will the result turn out to be a net decrease in his overall statewide performance, in the all-important swing states?

and I thought.... if blacks are 15% of the population, then whites outnumber them and who cares if there is a race war, the numbers are on the side of whites.  Probably not a nice thought....

213 I hate liberals have I said that today

214

Sue Spike Lee ourt of all his capitalist money. All of it.

Sue him to the ground.

215

"There is a Rush Limbaugh courthouse in Missouri named after his grandfather (also named Rush)."

The pavement outside must be a mess from all the heads exploding.

216 First of all Spike Lee is an ass,  second of all spike lee is an ass.

217 But I'm here to tell you that the unthinking rage and resentment in the black community is WORSE today than it was 30 years ago. These mob assaults on whites - that's only going to get worse. Mark my words.

Posted by: at March 28, 2012 01:02 PM (BatdI)

 

Yeah, as soon as they find out Zimmerman won't be charged, which is increasingly looking like what will happen.  Shit will hit the fan. 

218 I am keeping a list ah awl ya'll using my Treyvons(TM) name. I gotta get paid!

219

Any lie for dear leader.

220 Miss me yet?
Posted by: Zombie Robert Byrd

oink

221 "There is a Rush Limbaugh courthouse in Missouri named after his grandfather (also named Rush)."
The pavement outside must be a mess from all the heads exploding.

Lol - ewwwwww.

222 OT: Boy, that Drudge is sure fucking nuts about nuke power.

223

"Yes. Some of them dropped their IDs in the store."

 

Well, I *did* steal some beer...

224 OT but funny tweet I saw at the LATimes while reading their sweet sweet DOOM article on OCare:
 
mikememoli Newt's new campaign strategy: Mega Millions jackpot.

225 We should all on the Conservative side just flat out boycot hollyweird and see them fall like dominos, not the pizza guys I like them.

226 108
Dennis Rodman has a problem. Even when he played for the Detroit Pistons, before he got all the ink and piercings, he was a manic depressive. I don't care for the guy, but the only place he could be normal was on the basketball court, and he was really good back in the day. But he's got a real medical problem.

Spike Lee is just a mean little guy. He doesn't care who he hurts, he's just on an ego ride. This stuff playing out in Florida is a replay of the what happened in Harlem to the Korean groceer or in Crown Heights. Now they are trying to play the same game in Florida. This is just affirmative action confirmed racism. Someone in the Media has to find the guts to stand up and start saying this. It's bad for everyone, including black people. There is going to be an ugly backlash to this, because it is building up in people's minds.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch, writes..... at March 28, 2012 12:32 PM (sJTmU)

I remember reading that the Pistons' old coach (Chuck Daly?) took Rodman under his wing and made sure he took his meds.  After the coach got fired, Rodman began to freak out.

And +1000 on the last part.

227

"198113. Rush is shocked, SHOCKED, that the SCOTUS doesn't function as a typical jury, arguing round table. ..."

 

Actually, I caught a little of Rush the other day, and he was explaining how people think that the SCOTUS sit around in a room and debate, but that, in fact, that they barely ever even speek to one another. They mostly just go off on their own, decide for themselves, and then vote.

228 No, Mars.  No no no.

I hope these people RUIN his ass.  I wanna see video of him living in a cardboard box in two years.

229 Why didn't the Walgreens cashiers open fire?  I thought everyone in FL had a license to kill, that's what the media told me.

230 of representatives. And why wasn't Rush tazed. I would have had him tazed when he ignored the gavel. Good thing they don't let me run things.

Posted by: Jimmah at March 28, 2012 01:01 PM (UpwlP)

 

Quick jab to the belly with a night stick. Less dramatic and much more quiet while they try to learn to breath again.

231 Spike Lee is just a mean little guy. He doesn't care who he hurts, he's just on an ego ride.

Ayup.

232 I definitely hope they sue. This is evil -- and to give away Zimmerman's address; a man who is innocent until proven guilty and whom it looks more and more like he was merely defending himself, while voluntarily defending his community; is bad enough. To do this to two uninvolved people? There are no words. There should be a damn suit.

233 >>I just tweeted the Reggie Miller choke picture.

Bwahahaha.  Good times.

234

Oh, and while all of you asshats in the Georgia Legslative Black Caucus were out there ginning up a lynch mob to get Zimmerman, a Federal Judge dismissed your bad joke of a civil rights lawsuit against raaaaaaacist cities in North Fulton County.

 

Plaintiff's shyster Jerome Lee:  "This is what was so amazing about the dismissal, in that the judge dismissed the case before any discovery or fact-finding took place".

 

Not true, Jerome. He discovered the fact that you and your arrogant, clueless clients were stinking up his courtroom with your halitosis...that, the fact that Eric Holder is shrinking at an incredible rate.

 

Good week for the courts, what with the EPA ruling. Now come on, Supremes. Bring it on home.

235 Yeah, as soon as they find out Zimmerman won't be charged, which is increasingly looking like what will happen. Shit will hit the fan. Posted by: yinzer at March 28, 2012 01:04 PM (/Mla1) That's what scares me too. There was a big rally in the hood here in Indy the other day. Unthinking mobs.

236 I'm really starting to hate being alive in this generation.

Seriously.  It's starting to suck royally.

237

You laughed it off when Curtis Got Slapped.

 

Well, now Trayvon Got Shot.

 

All it takes is for one more black kid to get Hoodwinked and/or Bamboozled and this country will burn.

238 OT... remind me never to hire this Verelli cat. He is perfect to defend Obumbles healthcare legislation though.. he stutters and mumbles as much as him

239 Blacks in hoodies should be called out as Urban Klansmen. And mocked for it.

240

But I'm here to tell you that the unthinking rage and resentment in the black community is WORSE today than it was 30 years ago.

 

You could very well be correct. I sense that it is. I recall reading that racist views decline with the level of education among whites, and increase with the level of education among blacks.  Anyone familiar with African Studies in college, and, now, Critical Race Theory, would find that unsurprising.

241 Bwahahaha. Good times. Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at March 28, 2012 01:08 PM (ZKzrr) Best moment in Indiana sports.

242 OT... remind me never to hire this Verelli cat. He is perfect to defend Obumbles healthcare legislation though.. he stutters and mumbles as much as him

Posted by: Sandys Fluke at March 28, 2012 01:10 PM (nTgAI)

 

Sock fail

243 Come on, Spike-- Do the right thing.

244 200 Hmmmmmm, what else can I add to my AR-15 platform it looks like a Swiss army knife already.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 28, 2012 12:58 PM (60MCj)

 

 

 

Chainsaw?

245 Blacks in hoodies should be called out as Urban Klansmen.

And mocked for it.

Posted by: I am the egg man, . . . at March 28, 2012 01:10 PM (a362c

 

Good point... hoods in hoods

246

Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at March 28, 2012 01:08 PM (NVu2l)

no need for a night stick...just an accidental nut tap.

"oops! my bad , bro!"

247 I'm on my way out at 64yro, but I would love to have one more firefight just for the adrenalin flow I had in my 20's, looks good for me if this shit keeps going.

248

I recall reading that racist views decline with the level of education among whites, and increase with the level of education among blacks.

 

 

Yeah, super-educated nincompoops are super-tolerant.  Their racism turns into the soft tyranny of low expectations.

249 You laughed it off when Curtis Got Slapped.

Well, now Trayvon Got Shot.

All it takes is for one more black kid to get Hoodwinked and/or Bamboozled and this country will burn.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 28, 2012 01:09 PM (BatdI)

I can't wait for Trayvon's mother's laundry list of restitution demands.

250 We should all on the Conservative side just flat out boycot hollyweird and see them fall like dominos, not the pizza guys I like them. Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 28, 2012 01:06 PM (60MCj) I don't think I've paid to see a movie in 10 years or more

251 200 Hmmmmmm, what else can I add to my AR-15 platform it looks like a Swiss army knife already.
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 28, 2012 12:58 PM (60MCj)



Chainsaw?

Posted by: Insomniac at March 28, 2012 01:11 PM (DrWcr)

 

A mini 14 on the bottom rail ... that way when the AR gets dirty after 100 rounds you can shoot the mini until the barrel melts off

252 Chainsaw?

Posted by: Insomniac at March 28, 2012 01:11 PM (DrWcr)

Groovy!

253 I don't think I've paid to see a movie in 10 years or more

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 28, 2012 01:12 PM (i6RpT)

That's what bittorrent is for.  I don't fucking pay for movies.  At.  All.

254 Happy Irsay Day everyone! What a hero. Shoving it up the government class's ass 28 years ago today.

255 O/T  Just had the most amazing, thick, crispy bacon ever.  If I smoked, I'd be having a cigarette right now.

Still swooning.

Sorry.  Carry on.

256 Ace was truly SMODworthy with that twitter beatdown. BRING IT!!!!!

257

216
That Marcus person who initially revealed the address is insisting it's
the right address even now. he claims the news reports that it's wrong
is just a conspiracy to protect Zimmerman
**

What a douch...even if his tin hat theory is true it does not make it right!! 
**

Arrrrgh!!

 

258 "Yes. Some of them dropped their IDs in the store."

Hey, how'd they procure those raaaacist documents?  I thought blacks couldn't get IDs?  Hmm.

259

Someone in the Media has to find the guts to stand up and start saying this. It's bad for everyone, including black people. There is going to be an ugly backlash to this, because it is building up in people's minds.

 

Hello?  Hello?  Is this thing on? 

260 Not me Nam, i prefer a cohesive society where we pull it together and crap like this is seen as crap for all of us.

261 Just had the most amazing, thick, crispy bacon ever. If I smoked, I'd be having a cigarette right now.

I hate you.

262 You can find Spike at the Garden. Arm yourself with a beer.

263 200 Hmmmmmm, what else can I add to my AR-15 platform it looks like a Swiss army knife already. Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 28, 2012 12:58 PM (60MCj) Chainsaw?
Posted by: Insomniac at March 28, 2012 01:11 PM (DrWcr)

A mini 14 on the bottom rail ... that way when the AR gets dirty after 100 rounds you can shoot the mini until the barrel melts off

Posted by: The Jackhole at March 28, 2012 01:12 PM (nTgAI)

 

How about a taser... so you could shoot at em while they are flopping... challenging

264 >>Best moment in Indiana sports.

I'm partial to Peyton Manning and Tony Dungy lifting the Lombardi Trophy. And Bryce Drew. But this takes nothing away from Reggie--I tried to name my basement cat Reggie, but he preferred "You Fuzzy Bastard."

265 259,

School this old Grunt on bittorrent, what is?

266 it is very sad that zero has pursued this route. Every bit of goodwill that existed before his presidency is being squandered and destroyed as it becomes apparent that the goodwill was largely a one way street and that the decades of increasing acceptance by whitey of african Americans is meeting decades of critical race theory and race baiter hatred. there are going to be a lot of very very disappointed moderate liberals when the race rage comes home.

267 Easily the worst mainstream movie producer in America. 

268 I thought blacks couldn't get IDs?

No, it's the Hispanics who are too stupid/poor/incompetent to secure photo Id.  DoJ says so.

269 #256

Speaking of Hollyweird, why is it taking them so long to announce that they're going to make a movie out of the Trayvon mess? Also, who's going to play Trayvon?

270 The Original Pancake House has the best thick cut smoked bacon on the planet. Moron/ette worthy fare. There is an OPH down in Bethesda. Simply divine.

271 That got me excited, Jane.

272 Spike Lee has made a couple good movies, but except for Inside Man nothing worth a damn in over ten years --and for the most part it's Denel Washington who makes them good, not Lee.

273 Hmm, all this discussion of AR-15s remind me that my wife wants one.  Anyone know about how much they cost?  I'm thinking a Christmas present.

274 If this turns into riots... all it will do is burn and destroy their own communities. They aint coming to my suburb.

275 I liked all the Spike Lee movies, except for the ones with racial overtones and the jazz music.  Other than that...

276 Speaking of Hollyweird, why is it taking them so long to announce that they're going to make a movie out of the Trayvon mess? Also, who's going to play Trayvon? Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 28, 2012 01:16 PM (L7hol) ---------------------------------------------------- Jaleel White of course.

277 I don't want to celebrate to early, but it's looking pretty good that at least the individual mandate is out if not the whole POS.

278 Arrest Spike Lee!


Now go forth and get the hoodies printed.

279 277 The Original Pancake House has the best thick cut smoked bacon on the planet. Moron/ette worthy fare. There is an OPH down in Bethesda. Simply divine.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 28, 2012 01:16 PM (jucos)

I'm at the Venetian in Vegas.  Room service was an hour late, but the bacon was so amazing all is forgiven.  I've never seen thicker bacon in my life.

280 School this old Grunt on bittorrent, what is?

Bittorrent is what is used when you hear of people "downloading" movies, software, music, etc off the internet.

It's real simple:

1.  Get a bittorrent software client.  There are lots of different ones.  Google.
2.  Go to a bittorrent search portal like Pirate Bay, Isohunt, Demonoid, etc.  Again, google for them.
3.  Find something you want, then click to download.

Easy.

281 >>No, it's the Hispanics who are too stupid/poor/incompetent to secure photo Id.

Hence the push to accept the matricula consular as ID.

282 The hispanic left begins to speak out on the Martin/Zimmerman case...

From CNS:

"Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-Ariz.) said on Tuesday that Arizona's immigration-enforcement law will cause people to be "profiled" in that state just as Trayvon Martin was profiled in Florida."

283

It's where you go to download pirated movies and end up bricking your computer with Russian and Chinese viruses.

 

That you asked the question tells me you should probably stay away.

284

$ 600-3000 maybe cheaper if you build it.. I am not a AR expert maybe others can chime in. I really want a springfield M1A

285 Easy.

Posted by: EC at March 28, 2012 01:19 PM (GQ8sn)

And use PeerBlock.

286 1912:  A n---- raped a white girl.  We need to get a posse together, drag him out of his house4, and lynch him.  And we don't need to be to careful about getting the right house because n-----s are all the same.

2012:  A cracker shot a African American.  We need to get a posse together, drag him out of house, and lynch him.  And we don't need to be to careful about getting the right house because crackers are all the same.

287
if you have a twitter account you should tweet that before someone else does.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 28, 2012 12:53 PM (Z9EHQ)

Done by me! (@JulietteAkinyi)

288

Bacon?  In Vegas?  From one of the casino buffets?

I'd be leery.  It might've been the last dude they caught counting cards...  O_O

289 Spike Lee? Wasn't he the guy that played "Dobby" in the Harry potter movies?

290 Hmm, all this discussion of AR-15s remind me that my wife wants one. Anyone know about how much they cost? I'm thinking a Christmas present.

Starts at about $800 for a Oly Arms cheapo (cheaper if you build your own from a kit), but I'd insist upon a Stag or Bushmaster (or others) with a chrome-lined barrel for about $150 more.

291 Posted by: RioBravo at March 28, 2012 01:19 PM (eEfYn)

Well that explains why the Left hasn't backed of the "Racist White-Hispanic" meme: even the other Demo Hispanics are throwing Zimmerman under the bus.

Nice.

292

145

*

They're just doing what the race-baiters and perpetually aggrieved do best: doubling down on the stupid and primitive until all those nice average white folk who initially were sympathetic to their cause remember why it is that they choose to live in lily white suburbs in the first place.

293 280,

Basic w/platform $1000 at Academy, they get you when you start buying ap.s for it tho'.

294 That's what bittorrent is for. I don't fucking pay for movies. At. All.

-----

Hey .... I am listening you know.  And taking notes.

The rest of you crackers can carry on.

295 282 I liked all the Spike Lee movies, except for the ones with racial overtones and the jazz music. Other than that...

Posted by: Truman North at March 28, 2012 01:18 PM (I2LwF)

--Heh, Inside Man may be the only one.

296 Hmm, all this discussion of AR-15s remind me that my wife wants one.
Anyone know about how much they cost? I'm thinking a Christmas present.

Starts at about $800 for a Oly Arms cheapo (cheaper if you build your own from a kit), but I'd insist upon a Stag or Bushmaster (or others) with a chrome-lined barrel for about $150 more.

Posted by: Joe Mama at March 28, 2012 01:21 PM (I8r8Y)

 

Are the S&W cheapos any good ?

297 It's where you go to download pirated movies and end up bricking your computer with Russian and Chinese viruses.

That you asked the question tells me you should probably stay away.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 28, 2012 01:19 PM (BatdI)

Only if you're stupid enough to download "Christina Hendricks sextape-XXX-hardcore.exe"

298 From CNS:

"Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-Ariz.) said on Tuesday that Arizona's
immigration-enforcement law will cause people to be "profiled" in that
state just as Trayvon Martin was profiled in Florida."

Posted by: RioBravo at March 28, 2012 01:19 PM (eEfYn)

what a statement, so He is inferring zimmerman was a bigot , and Trayvon was killed because He was black and profiled??

what

299 High school kids would protest for more homework if it meant that they could walk out of class today.  That Walgreen's wilding was just icing on the cake.

300

296

American card counting casino lizards are nicely marbled and make the best faux pork bellies on earth.

301 So if I budget $1500 I'll be good?  I'm not going to build one, she's the one with all the guns

302 Billy-Bob, Bed-Stuy will riot. And you can add Milwaukee and Cincinnati to that list.

Denver will just get an uptick on knockout-king games; there aren't enough blacks here to mount anything major.

303 Jane! Have fun in Vegas. The Venetian is pretty!!

304 Thanks EoJ.

305 Whyd they hav to bring hoodys into this? Why couldnt it just hav been about skittles? I hope this crap is settled by fall.

306 296 Bacon? In Vegas? From one of the casino buffets?
I'd be leery. It might've been the last dude they caught counting cards... O_O

Posted by: reason at March 28, 2012 01:20 PM (F26eZ)

Hells no.  Room service.  Got in late last night for the Int'l. Security Conference. 

Hope to meet some of the guys who took down the crazy pilot yesterday.

And good news!  The skies were safer yesterday, because I was "randomly selected" for special screening for explosive residue on my well-manicured hands in Savannah.

I was lucky.  Husband's IT guy's girlfriend, a lovely young black woman in a modest maxi-dress, got the full pat-down in Savannah.  The TSA agent actually said to her, "I'm going to be touching you near your crack."   Un-fucking believable.

307 #296

Yeah, but....bacon!

308 Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 28, 2012 01:00 PM (j+DX4)

Yesterday the consensus here was that genetics don't pass mustard.

309 I'm really starting to hate being alive in this generation. Seriously. It's starting to suck royally. Posted by: © Sponge at March 28, 2012 01:09 PM (UK9cE) I agree. I intend suicide (am researching and deciding on a method since the method I was going to use is no longer plausible with the writing off of my automobile, and the second method I was going to use fails a lot more than I realized, with horrible injury; also I have some constraints that most people in my position woudn't have in terms of available private location to do the noble act, finances, etc.). The reason I have decided on this course of action is primarily personal with compounding, subsequent pragmatic factors -- also affecting me personally. But when I think about the generation I live in, our utter loss of privacy, the stupidity of people, etc., I must admit this is almost a consolation to me that I have decided on this course. The world is really not that great even though it seemed like it was for a while. And if it is great, it's changing fast, losing what it has always meant to be human.

310 If this turns into riots... all it will do is burn and destroy their own communities. They aint coming to my suburb. Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at March 28, 2012 01:18 PM (DGIjM) I think you have discovered zero's secret plan for solving the housing crisis - riots ; burn the excess inventory, get the insurance payments to help owners in foreclosure or with below market value homes, create need for new stimulus spending and inner city redevelopment. race riots, they solve everything!

311 and I thought.... if blacks are 15% of the population, then whites outnumber them and who cares if there is a race war, the numbers are on the side of whites. Probably not a nice thought....

Posted by: Fl Conservative at March 28, 2012 01:02 PM (hQDLJ)

I've had the same thought very often.

312 I'm late to this discussion but:
Let @Twitter know. Or Twitter's CEO, @DickC. ???
Twitter has to already know. Yet one more reason for me to not sign up.

313 Random, for g-ds sake. stop that!

314 I can't wait for Trayvon's mother's laundry list of restitution demands.

Posted by: EC at March 28, 2012 01:12 PM (GQ8sn)

Eric Holder is working on them for her right now

315 I'll be interested to see if riots start in the US if they are contagious north of the border.  My sense tells me no, unless someone famous, black, and Canadian gets involved.  Like, say, Drake.  And Drake's too smart for that, I think.

There are more hippies and third-worlders than gangstas here.

316 280 Hmm, all this discussion of AR-15s remind me that my wife wants one. Anyone know about how much they cost? I'm thinking a Christmas present.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 28, 2012 01:18 PM (j+DX4)

 

 

A very basic Olympic Arms AR15 starts around $600.  They can go up to a couple grand or more.  You should be able to get a perfectly good brand new AR15 in the $800-$1000 range.  Piston converted models tend to be a little more expensive over the standard direct impingement.  I have a Bushmaster AR15 carbine, and it's been great.

317 Spike Lee is just a
mean little guy. He doesn't care who he hurts, he's just on an ego ride.

Ayup.

****

Welcome to Hollywood!

318 228 "Yes. Some of them dropped their IDs in the store."

Well, I *did* steal some beer...

Posted by: one of the looters at March 28, 2012 01:05 PM (F26eZ)

*This* is why I hang out here. LOL

319 Done by me! (@JulietteAkinyi) Posted by: baldilocks at March 28, 2012 01:20 PM (T2/zQ) good job!

320 309 So if I budget $1500 I'll be good? I'm not going to build one, she's the one with all the guns

Plenty. Check out Bushmaster, Smith and Wesson MP, Stag for starters. Take your time, there are lots of options.

321

"I'm going to be touching you near your crack."

 

Sounds like a Harvard grad.

322 it's a shame there is a decided lack or leadership in the country.

323

If they're trying to go somewhere no-one will find them, they don't need a hotel.

 

If they want to avoid people motivated by Spike Lee, their best bet would be a library.

324 Anyone thinking that there will be a race war is just as sane as Charlie Manson.

325

314 Jane

I hope she ripped a most satisfying fart in the agent's face? 

326 Concerning bittorrent, as long as you are careful at what you're actually downloading and take precautions, you won't have a problem with 99% of the stuff out there.  The portals take care of fake, malicious shit on their own pretty well and a lot of the stuff I grab is from trusted members on said portals.  That, and I run all the ip blocking stuff on my end too.  I've never had an issue with music, movies, or software. 

Obviously there are red flags you see from time to time like "1000 clean credit card numbers.zip".  You've got to be a complete fucking retard surpassing Joe Biden levels to click on shit like that.  I mean, come on!!!  As long as you take the time to check out the source, see what other people's comments are about the torrent file, then you will be fine.

327 I'm going to be touching you near your crack."

Sounds like a Harvard grad.

Posted by: jwest at March 28, 2012 01:27 PM (FdndL)

 

Uhhh which crack ?

328 331 "I'm going to be touching you near your crack."

Sounds like a Harvard grad.

Posted by: jwest at March 28, 2012 01:27 PM (FdndL)

 

 

 

Or Georgetown Law student.

329 Jimbo, interesting comment I'm sure you went to the black panthers site and explained it to them?
you did right?

330 335 314 Jane
I hope she ripped a most satisfying fart in the agent's face?

Posted by: SMOD 2012 at March 28, 2012 01:29 PM (H/b/q)

Nope.  She's a wonderful young lady.  Mine and my husband's heads nearly exploded when she told us.

I was lucky.  The poor little old lady next to me was getting the full pat-down, while I got my hands swabbed.

The world has gone crazy.

331 Jimbo otherwise, i prefer to think Americans even as dumb ass groups are not that evil, when given time to think.

332 New Post up.

It's pretty long, so I didn't read it.  I suspect it's a movie review.

333 Jackhole I have a sw ar15 ... not one of the cheaper sport version. The sw m&p cheapos aren't bad. Thet come without a forward assist and there may be slight variations vis a vis the more pricey models. Great 1st ar for someone on a budget.

334 264 "Yes. Some of them dropped their IDs in the store."

Hey, how'd they procure those raaaacist documents? I thought blacks couldn't get IDs? Hmm.

Posted by: Lady in Black.....{sigh} at March 28, 2012 01:14 PM (F+Xfj)

Whoa!  Excellent point.

335

Rep. Hank Johnson (D-Georgia): "He (Trayvon) was executed for 'WWB' in a 'GC.' Walking While Black in a Gated Community."

 

 

I was once DP'd in SE DC by 2BM.

 

 

336 Any comments about Rock River Arms?  I'm considering a DIY kit from them.

337 'Nam!! How the hell are ya'?
We's good here.

338 No, I have not informed the NBPP of their craziness.

339 Funny, it's not huntin' season but all the pick ups in town have deer rifles and shotguns in their window racks. Looks like somebody is taking this hate and kill whitey stuff very seriously, threats of racial attacks have been taken seriously by a lot of folks since the rodney king riots.

340 348 Any comments about Rock River Arms? I'm considering a DIY kit from them.

Good choice. Solid performers.

341 we srsly need a leader for All americans. To speak rationally about law, justice , due process.

342 349 Beto,

Finer than a frog hair split 4 ways buddy.

343

what a statement, so He is inferring zimmerman was a bigot , and Trayvon was killed because He was black and profiled??
what

 

Wouldn't that also mean that Martin was profiled by a hispanic?

344 283 Speaking of Hollyweird, why is it taking them so long to announce that they're going to make a movie out of the Trayvon mess? Also, who's going to play Trayvon?
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 28, 2012 01:16 PM (L7hol)
----------------------------------------------------
Jaleel White of course.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 28, 2012 01:19 PM (jucos)

Jaleel is 36 now.  They need a ten year old.

345

"And good news! The skies were safer yesterday, because I was "randomly selected" for special screening for explosive residue on my well-manicured hands in Savannah."

 

They just wanted to check out your awesome cuticles.

 

I got swabbed last time I went out of PHX.  I think the only thing more annoying to the TSA than a grouchy complainer is an absolute dork like me, who wants to know how everything works, and what's in the bottles, and what does it look for, and what color would it turn if...and...and...and...

346 @348 Rock River's good quality. I have two, 6.8spc and 7.62

347 314
I am encouraged by the new TSA guidelines on liquids and gels.  From their website:
-----
the following liquids, gels and aerosols are permitted through the security checkpoint in reasonable quantities for the duration of your itinerary (all exceptions must be presented to the security officer in front of the checkpoint):

...including petroleum jelly, eye drops, and saline solution for medical purposes
-----
The petroleum jelly can come in handy during the screening process so is good that they allow it.

348 I think the only thing more annoying to the TSA than a grouchy complainer is an absolute dork like me, who wants to know how everything works, and what's in the bottles, and what does it look for, and what color would it turn if...and...and...and...

Posted by: reason at March 28, 2012 01:34 PM (kZVsz)

You're on their shit list now.

349 Emotihug for Random. Its not that bad. Theres free internet porn and cinese food for starters. At least its not too boring these days.

350

"Jaleel is 36 now. They need a ten year old."

 

What's that kid they used as a prop for the Obamacare signing up to these days?

351 Jaleel is 36 now. They need a ten year old.

Posted by: baldilocks at March 28, 2012 01:34 PM (T2/zQ)

How old is Webster now?

352 You could help speed up the process by applying the Vaseline to your rectum just before getting in the security line. 

353 357 "And good news! The skies were safer yesterday, because I was "randomly selected" for special screening for explosive residue on my well-manicured hands in Savannah."

They just wanted to check out your awesome cuticles.

I got swabbed last time I went out of PHX. I think the only thing more annoying to the TSA than a grouchy complainer is an absolute dork like me, who wants to know how everything works, and what's in the bottles, and what does it look for, and what color would it turn if...and...and...and...

Posted by: reason at March 28, 2012 01:34 PM (kZVsz)

I didn't fuss.  I just stood there thinking of the irony that we were on our way to the security conference.  And some mouth-breathing TSA goon is swabbing my hands.

354

Dave in Fla. look at slickguns.com for AR's and prices... best place to start.  I live deep in L.A., and while our african friends tend to boast about how hard they are many of the hispanics I know are busy arming up and practicing their marksmanship.  Go AR not AK despite what anyone might tell you- slickguns is also the best for ammo.  I suggest XD's for pistols...

355 Meanwhile, when I went to get more coffee, MSNBC informed me that criticism of SCOAMF's Trayvon™ remarks is, I quote, "despicable."

356 Speaking of Hollyweird, why is it taking them so long to announce that they're going to make a movie out of the Trayvon mess? Also, who's going to play Trayvon?
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 28, 2012 01:16 PM (L7hol)




Zombie Gary Coleman wearing an Obama mask will play Trayvon. The movie will portray him as a saintly little innocent who was a dedicated, hard working straight A student. He was caring for an ill mother (who didn't have healthcare because of racism). When he grew up he wanted find a cure for cancer and racism and homophobia. Zimmerman (played by a blonde actor) will be a neo-Nazi who went to Tea Party rallies and hated anyone of color. And women. And gays. And open minded liberals. The "fact based" story will show how Adolf Zimmerman had been tracking Trayvon (because he was so wonderful and saintly) for some time and it was a premeditated murder. The cops (all stereotypical Southern rednecks) were in on the murder. The movie will end with a message from Barry saying how opposing anything he wants is racism and caused Trayvon to be dead. And voting Republican kills black people

357 Jackhole

I have a sw ar15 ... not one of the cheaper sport version.

The sw m&p cheapos aren't bad. Thet come without a forward assist and there may be slight variations vis a vis the more pricey models.

Great 1st ar for someone on a budget.

Posted by: eastvalleyphx at March 28, 2012 01:31 PM (QocZd)

 

Thanks

358

Posted by: toby928© at March 28, 2012 12:44 PM (GTbGH)

Did it have her talking face in it, too?

359 @366 Go AR not AK despite what anyone might tell you

LEO's will tell you the AK will get you targeted. Preferred weapon of the enemy.

360 TSA story from last year:

I was coming back from a vacation to the Caribbean with my wife last year and the old guy in front of me got "random-ed" for a full search at Charlotte.  It's one special search where they pull you out of the line and put you in a clear windowed box next to the lines in front of everyone.  They dumped this 70 year old white guy in there and then left him standing.  It took me another 20 minutes to clear the metal detector but the old guy was still standing there waiting for whoever from TSA was supposed to come and give him the reach-around.  He probably waited there another half hour too.  Poor guy probably missed his flight.  A passenger in front of me asked the TSA how they picked him out and he told him that the software randomly selects a passenger from time to time so no one can claim they're being singled out. 

361 Random, for g-ds sake. stop that! Posted by: willow at March 28, 2012 01:26 PM Our society is so immature on this topic. It's a good thing. It's an option. It shouldn't be mandatory nor forbidden. We should get rid of the stigma and taboo. Death is unavoidable. Why not choose? It worked for Sigmund Freud and for the founder of Kodak. "My work is done. Why wait?" -- George Eastman

362 The combination to Spike LeeÂ’s locked gate at his home in Oak Bluffs, Ma is 1492 (the year Christopher Columbus sailed the ocean blue..) Just sayinÂ’...

363 But Zimmerman ... well, I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up getting intentionally murdered or badly injured. And that would be a tragedy. I hope he has police protection. He must, I would think.

364

"You're on their shit list now."

 

Yup.  I've got a comment that comes up by my name:  "INTERMEDIATE QUESTIONER."

365 Yup. I've got a comment that comes up by my name: "INTERMEDIATE QUESTIONER."

Posted by: reason at March 28, 2012 01:45 PM (kZVsz)

Really?  They do that?

366 Random:

Stick around, we all learn from each other.

"May you live in interesting times" ~ Ancient Chinese Curse

"May you know many lawyers" ~ Modern American Curse

367 Be sure to consider DPMS for your AR's.  I would strongly suggest AGAINST piston AR's, and I don't suggest Delton's although in a few years that will probably change- best to stick with well-proven technology.  Make sure you get a dust cover. $1500 will get you something real nice like a BCM or Spike's.  Myself I'd get 2 cheaper ones instead and spend more money on ammo.  It's all about practice and familiarity... in general just like cars don't get the cheapest or most expensive-

368 A passenger in front of me asked the TSA how they picked him out and he told him that the software randomly selects a passenger from time to time so no one can claim they're being singled out.

Posted by: EC at March 28, 2012 01:41 PM (GQ8sn)

Yeah, as I walked through the metal detector, an alarm went off.  The grinning TSA goon said, "You've been randomly selected for additional screening."  My heart sank.  In the middle of the security area, a little old lady was standing spread-eagled getting patted down in front of everyone.  My husband was gobsmacked that I was getting my palms swabbed, but I felt "lucky."

369 Hmmm...I'm guessing my wife's name brings up: "HUGE RACK-FULL SCREENING REQUIRED"

370 I would strongly suggest AGAINST piston AR's

Why?  Aren't they more reliable than gas?

371 375 But Zimmerman ... well, I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up getting intentionally murdered or badly injured. And that would be a tragedy. I hope he has police protection. He must, I would think. Posted by: Random at March 28, 2012 01:43 PM (EnR4l) you can rest assured if anything happens to him the doj will be all over it as a hate crime.

372 Yeah, as I walked through the metal detector, an alarm went off. The grinning TSA goon said, "You've been randomly selected for additional screening."

Only in my case, the old guy was BEFORE the metal detectors.  They pulled him out before we got anywhere near the pr0n scanners.  That was very unusual.

373

EC - I don't know.  I just wanted to bring some funnay.

Encouraged by Baldi liking my "looter" sock, I was in the zone.

374 Spike Lee, like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Louis Farrakahn, gets money because he hates races other than his own. 

This, in my view, makes him a Professional Racist.

I suggest we refer to these men by this term.

375 "Stick around, we all learn from each other." I would but the pain is unbearable. And it's gone on for far too long. The combination of those two things makes me unable to live productively. So I am also a burden. Etc. Etc.

376 Yeah, as I walked through the metal detector, an alarm went off. The grinning TSA goon said, "You've been randomly selected for additional screening." My heart sank boobs cowered in fear.

377 If its any consolation to the Treyvon Martin fan club I could give a shit about white people getting shot too. Is it sad and noteworthy? Yes. Will the locals handle it? They did. Do I give a shit? No.

378 @  387

     Quit playing, asshole.  The regulars aren't buying it, anyway.

379 First of all, the unreliability of DI AR's is a 40-year-old problem that has for all intents and purposes been solved.  We wouldn't be still sending our guys out with the DI system 50 years after the rollout of the AR if it hadn't been- but more importantly all the piston systems are proprietary which means all different systems and parts for different manufacturers- whereas standard AR stuff is available in every nook and cranny of this fine land- good luck finding replacement parts for your particular brand of piston in Sneezethrough Nebraska should they go down- which eventually everything does- plus pistons are only more reliable if you keep them clean- they just foul in a different place- so most people will just assume they're safe and when they finally clog up they are a TOTAL BITCH to get apart (like take it to a gunsmith-difficult). Go with what works for the guys whose life depends on their stuff working-

380 SCOTUS! Do it for Treyvon!

381 If  you're  getting  an  AR  you  can't  go  wrong  by  adding  a  Adams  Arms   piston  kit,  especially  if  you  go  the  M-4  16"  barrel  route.  

382 Random you're wrong, wrong, and WRONG.  Your best judgement got you here.  Find someone to talk to who has better judgement.  There are many available. Go to an AA meeting and get some perspective!!!!  I used to feel exactly like you do but then i quit hanging out with assholes and now my life is great- don't mistake depression for the consequences of hanging out with assholes!!!

383 Just get a Bushmaster and add your ap's to the platform,a friend told me that Sons of Guns have a 60rd mag. I need to check that shit out, they are only 2 hours away from me.

384 I think Bobby Rush the thug should be thrown out on his sorry ass from congress!

385 My mom, who is of mixed heritage (black, white, American Indian) but appears to be Arab, says that she never gets the special TSA screening.  And she flies a lot.

386 They may pay lip service to MKL Jr, but...
--
his national memorial looks like Mao and references a drum major.

387 "Quit playing, asshole. The regulars aren't buying it, anyway." Either way, you're right. If I keep posting beyond the next couple weeks, you win. And if I stop posting, you interpret it whatever way you want: "That asshole stopped posting here." There is no set of facts that will come to your attention that would undermine your view. In a sense I am playing, but no game lasts forever.

388 Surefire   has  60   and  100   round  mags   that  work.   Check  out   Brownells.   

389 @ 395

    Damn, what's holding you back?  Being that close would guarantee a visit from me.

390 Well this should get ya started on Youtube: Piston vs DI Dilemma: "The AR-15 Gas Choice" by Nutnfancy.  My DI ar's run for days and days and days

391 don't mistake depression for the consequences of hanging out with assholes!!!
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Good premise.

392 >>> don't mistake depression for the consequences of hanging out with assholes!!! Yeah, well put, there is a difference. And that's a factor. But in my case it's the contrast with hanging out with the best person I've ever met for years and now being hated by that person, knowing finally we will never, ever hang out again. It's really the good dreams and the great memories that are devastating. Oh well. Other people have worse problems. You all got me there. Can't hardly disagree.

393 401,

I want to make sure they have them in stock before I make the drive Bud.

394
   For those interested, the web site is  Redjacketfirearms.com.   Well worth a visit.

395 Neurology, our brain's frontal lobe's ability to make a thought as real as "reality" is separates humans from beasts.

A person may as well think in terms of what he/she wants to see as "reality".

Work from the premise of something you love, and project yourself towards a goal that you love. That's William Whitecloud's take on life's power. Neurologists have found that we can retrain our brain out of "bad habits" of thought/neural patterns; but must choose to replace the "bad habit" with a positive and productive thought pattern.

Negativity is a destructive pain when it refuses to tolerate a positive imagination, random.

396 So are you better off having had someone so wonderful and no longer having them or never having had someone so wonderful?  Don't mistake the reality of your life for the desire to dramatize your plight.  They couldn't have been that great, great people don't hate people. You're just being sad thinking that you'll never have such great feelings again- you will, but you have to get throught this to get there.  Aren't you feeling sorry for yourself?

397 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

398 "So are you better off having had someone so wonderful and no longer having them or never having had someone so wonderful?" I'm better off having had her and lost her. She would have been better off if I'd never existed, or so I suspect she sees it. I agree. "You're just being sad thinking that you'll never have such great feelings again- you will," Actually, no. Not like that. "but you have to get throught this to get there." Been over two years. Isn't going to happen. Isn't even slightly better. In fact is worse. "Aren't you feeling sorry for yourself?" Yep. But I don't have to for decades. I have an another feasible option. Yes, you can propose yet another option aside from that, but I no longer believe it's feasible.

399 DAve, yep; growing pains are part of life.
Live and learn.

400

First of all, the unreliability of DI AR's is a 40-year-old problem that has for all intents and purposes been solved. We wouldn't be still sending our guys out with the DI system 50 years after the rollout of the AR if it hadn't been

 

Sorry,   the  DI   system's   problems  remains  unsolved,  excess  heat   and  fouling  blow  back   directly  into   the  receiver  requiring  frequent  cleaning  to  prevent  jamming;  something  a  piston  system  doesn't  do.   The  problem  is  made  worse  in  the  M-4  varient  because  of  the  shorter  barrel;  Stoner  designed  that  system  for  a  20"  barrel.   M-4s  in  Iraq  where  burning  out  barrels  after  2000  rounds  and  had  to  go   back  to   depot  for   rebuild.

I  have  several   ARs   built  with  the  Adam's  piston  system  and   after  10,000  rounds  I've  had  no  failures.  Piston  systems  don't  foul  unless you  don't  read  the  manual  and  lube  the  piston.   The  most  reliable   rifle  the  U.S.  ever  fielded  was  the  M-1 /M-14  series  and  they're  piston  driven.

401 "great people don't hate people" Yeah, I'm probably just exaggerating/lying on that point. But the part about her never wanting to talk to me or see me again is true. And it's more than I can bear. The fact other people can bear far, far worse is good for them. And irrelevant to me.

402 Everybody f**ks up, Random.  Alot.  Sometimes more painfully than others-And yet we move on and prosper- that's called "realistic expectations".

403 but I no longer believe it's feasible.
--

The meaning of "I can't"?
You can't because you won't.
When there's a will, there's a way.

"You're stuck on stupid. Don't stay stuck on stupid."

404 "You can't because you won't." Correct. I've decided not to. I really don't know if I could even make another decision. I know that I've thought about it for a long time and I don't want to. Living knowing the person I've loved the most in my life never wants to see or talk to me again isn't something I've been able to handle. That isn't going to change. I've tried. I mean, I'm here two years later. I've dated other women pretty much all of whom were younger and hotter than her. But so what? >>> Everybody f**ks up, Random. I fucked up bad. You're right. Turns out that the other screw ups were things I could handle and this one isn't. Oh well. I gambled. I lost everything. I'm not the first one and I won't be the last.

405

"Piston systems don't foul unless you don't read the manual and lube the piston. "  Yes, and how does that differ from the DI system??? The burnt out barrels have absolutely nothing to do with the gas system, they're overheating due to being used too much on full-auto. 

Random, just on a note of extreme personal selfishness, who were you planning on giving the burden and trauma of finding your grisly corpse to?

406 Well DAve, I know I can take some planning steps in that regard, right? Something people otherwise can't. But anyway, it depends on the method I ultimately choose. Not family, but other than that, have no idea at this point. If our society was free, then I could notify the authorities in advance and thus have a better outcome that way for the general public. But alas it isn't, a fact I'm not responsible for, so I may have to prioritize that lower down the list. I agree with Holland when it comes to assisted suicide, incidentally.

407 However, since everyone dies and I didn't have any choice in that nor in being born, of all the things in this world, the one I won't feel guilty about is that someone someday will find my body. That's just a simple logical outcome of having a mortal body. Someone will find your body too.

408

283 "Also, who's going to play Trayvon?"

 

"Jaleel White, of course."

No, no - Jaleel White as the SCOAMF.  Todd Bridges for Trayvon.

409

You lost everything?  Can you see how completely over-the-top dramatic you're being?  I'm beginning to think that you're just considering all this primarily to get revenge on someone who isn't talking to you now-

Your judgement is horribly (but temporarily) compromised: talk to someone who's thinking more clearly.  Quit digging the hole you're in.

410 Diogenes had the right idea when it came to bodies. >>> There are conflicting accounts of Diogenes' death. He is alleged variously to have held his breath [not likely!]; to have become ill from eating raw octopus; or to have suffered an infected dog bite. When asked how he wished to be buried, he left instructions to be thrown outside the city wall so wild animals could feast on his body. When asked if he minded this, he said, "Not at all, as long as you provide me with a stick to chase the creatures away!" When asked how he could use the stick since he would lack awareness, he replied "If I lack awareness, then why should I care what happens to me when I am dead?" At the end, Diogenes made fun of people's excessive concern with the "proper" treatment of the dead. The Corinthians erected to his memory a pillar on which rested a dog of Parian marble.

411 The fact other people can bear far, far worse is good for them. And irrelevant to me.
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You are CHOOSING to be pathetic whining like a big titty baby. You did something, offending the love of your life. Grow up. Make amends, including getting over your self indulgent addiction to the morose. Don't expect to get someone's loyalty or love as a prize, either. Relationships are complicated. You just admitted your lack of empathy, referencing the hardships of other people as irrelevant to you. Start from there, because without empathy, you're stuck on yourself beyond what's socially acceptable. If you're really lost, and can't do-it-yourself-improvement, then find professional help if you need an authority figure to tell you what to do next. Just remember, in the end, it's up to YOU to identify with a loving thought. REALISTIC EXPECTATIONS: Happiness comes from within. No one or nothing will "fix" the world to suit your selfish demands and "make" you happy. No person and no addiction will "MAKE" you happy. Many a marriage has broken as soon as the couples realize what love means and what love requires to thrive and/or survive through the hardships in life, no matter what.

412

I found my dead father after three days when the heater had been on the whole time.  He was swollen up to about 2X his normal size and blacker than Eddie Murphy.  That was bad enough without half his head missing and his brains being splattered all over the wall.

Here's a clue abut yourself: you wouldn't have started this conversation if you hadn't wanted someone to talk you out of it.  You would have done it already- start from there.  Your judgement is horribly (but temporarily) compromised: talk to someone who's thinking more clearly.

413 Word to the P-horn

414 >>> You lost everything? Well, since that time I've been unable to work and lost my savings, racked up debt to the maximum on all accounts destroying my credit rating, was evicted from my apartment by the ocean, lost my car, almost almost my friends, my possessions, my ability to plan and take effective action at the time it needs to be done, become homeless, and obviously lost the last two years -- in addition to their being a gaping hole in my heart whenever I think about the great times in the previous seven ... plus I wake up with my heart hurting at least 4 days out of 7, and am pretty much nonfunctional the majority of the time. I get in arguments at the drop of a hat -- something I did before, but now way worse -- I drive people away, left, right, and center -- and so on. >>> I'm beginning to think that you're just considering all this primarily to get revenge on someone who isn't talking to you now There might be aspects of that, but it's not what I want. She left me though, twice, once as a love and once as a best friend ... and she just has no right to control what I do. I'm trying to figure out how to get my cousin off her Facebook account so she doesn't find out. But it's hard both because I can't reach my cousin and I think she's pretty selfish. The odds of her doing it because I ask her to are about nil. But I'll give it a shot and that's the most I can do.

415

Was it her job to keep you prosperous?

416 >>> Was it her job to keep you prosperous? No Dave, she was free to do as she chose.

417 >>> You just admitted your lack of empathy, referencing the hardships of other people as irrelevant to you. No, that isn't it. Life is a very hard place and I know others suffer, feel joy, etc. I am not unemphatic. I often get angry at things out of a sense of injustice because of people suffering on a lot of topics. What I'm saying isn't that their suffering doesn't matter. I'm saying that the fact other people are more resilient and able to get over more difficult things doesn't make me able to get over this. I respect them for their robustness and ability, but mine is exhausted. I'm reminded of Kurt Kobain's suicide note because you DO have a good point when you write this, "You are CHOOSING to be pathetic whining like a big titty baby." He wrote, "Thank you all from the pit of my burning, nauseous stomach for your letters and concern during the past years. I'm too much of an erratic, moody baby! I don't have the passion anymore, and so remember, it's better to burn out than to fade away." I don't think anyone, least of all Kurt Kobain, would have confused him with a font of emotional stability and maturity in the face of adversity. There could be various reasons for that. Maybe it was his early attachment upbringing. Maybe it was genetics. Maybe he had it at one point, but became overwhelmed by stressors and lost his resiliency. Maybe he was just a whiny selfish asshole who chose to be that way. But he was that way, right? Well I identify a lot more with him than I do with people overcoming their problems. You can despise me for it, pity me for it, hold me in contempt for it, or disbelieve me ... but that's how I am. I was once a courageous 16 year old who'd live off the land for months at a time, travelling alone hundreds of miles. And now? This.

418

Quit all social media involving her.  Now you're just acting like a creepy stalker.  That's a choice on your part.  The scab you keep scratching is getting infected.  Stop scratching it.

Point two: you're not failing to deal with the activities of daily living because you're depressed, you're depressed because you're failing to deal with the activities of daily living.  Start there.  Only in such a wealthy land would you logistically be capable of such a lackadaisical approach to your own existence. The sooner you stop digging the easier it will be to climb out.

If it wasn't her job to keep you prosperous than why is your prosperity so dependent on her?  I wouldn't want that pressure on me either-

Seems like you're throwing a tantrum because someone took away something you wanted.

419

Kurt Kobain was a total f**king asshole.  You have never lost anything compared to what his child lost- believe that-  And now you justify that and hold him up as an exemplar???

Your judgement is horribly (but temporarily) compromised: talk to someone who's thinking more clearly.

420 Quit all social media involving her. Now you're justacting likea creepy stalker. I haven't talked to her in almost a year. I'm aware my cousin is on her FB account. She lives in another country. Since she doesn't want to talk to me, if I die, she won't find out ... unless my cousin is on her FB account. As far as prosperity goes, I have no use for prosperity. I guess I'd take it if I had it, but I have nothing worthwhile to do with it anymore. That's why I've taken no efforts to get it or keep it.

421 >>> Kurt Kobain was a total f**king asshole. I like him. I got a lot in common with him. Except ownership of a shot gun unfortunately.

422 424 RIP

My elderly Grandfather absolutely adored Grandma and couldn't bear to live after she died. God bless him, "the salt of the earth".

423 I actually did work before. But now the thought of working to perpetuate my life is awful. Talk about futility ... work ... means get to live longer ... and this is a good thing ... how? That's why I didn't get a job. Under my own preferred political scheme, undoubtedly I'd be shot. At the very least, I should starve and freeze to death. But that's probably not going to happen.

424 >>> My elderly Grandfather absolutely adored Grandma and couldn't bear to live after she died. God bless him, "the salt of the earth". Sounds like a good man. I know exactly how he feels minus the being a good man part. Not trying to be sarcastic. I'd say that's about it. Her grandparents met in WW2 and loved each other up to the very end. Was wonderful. Fantastic people. She deserved that, but got me instead.

425 Speaking of grandparents, that's exactly what Spike Lee did, isn't it? He put two loving people who've been together for a long time in fear of their lives and chased them out of their home. Good people, probably. The best sort. I don't know what a person could feel ashamed about if they couldn't feel ashamed about doing that.

426 107 Shelton Jackson "Spike" Lee is an American film director, producer, writer, and actor. His production company, 40 Acres A Mule Filmworks, has produced over 35 films since 1983. You may now continue.

Posted by: @SOEarpiece at March 28, 2012 12:32 PM (GTbGH)***

And about 100 people outside of NYC have seen them.  Please carry on.

427 Only at AOSHQ do you get a potential suicide double commenting.

Have you found a pro shrink?
Have you tried anti-depressants?
Have you tried 1/2 drowning like the one MASH where Potter gas-masks the guy to see if you really want to die?

What are you going to do if you succeed and God slaps you in the back of the head and says "Hey, I wasn't done yet!"

428 >>> What are you going to do if you succeed and God slaps you in the back of the head and says "Hey, I wasn't done yet!" Call him a sadistic, torturous bastard, and say that's about what I expected from him.

429 Our society is so immature on this topic.

You're the one who is talking about taking your ball and going away.

Call him a sadistic, torturous bastard, and say that's about what I expected from him.

Like he hasn't heard that before.
You're letting a broken heart and head tell you it needs to be destroyed without trying every other remedy. 

What if the Hindus are right and he just sends your ass thru again?

430 >>> Have you tried 1/2 drowning like the one MASH where Potter gas-masks the guy to see if you really want to die? The autonomic nervous system's response to having your air forcibly or otherwise shut off is not, repeat not, a strong argument on the topic of suicide. Here's a simpler one: Death is inevitable. Why not choose one at a time and place that suits you?

431 >>> What if the Hindus are right and he just sends your ass thru again? One, this: http://youtu.be/MyJA7J7LTao Two, there's no evidence for any God. Three, if there is, there's no evidence God gives a damn about whether we kill ourselves -- It plainly allowed the option. "But still they tell us, we must patiently endure the evils which God inflicts, and make a merit of our sufferings. This application however of the maxims of Christianity, is very ill calculated to satisfy our judgment. Man is subject to a thousand troubles, his life is a complication of evils, and he seems to have been born only to suffer. Reason directs him to shun as many of these evils as he can avoid; and religion, which is never in contradiction to reason, approves of his endeavours. But how inconsiderable is the account of these evils, in comparison with those he is obliged to endure against his will? It is with respect to these, that a merciful God allows man to claim the merit of resistance; he receives the tribute he has been pleased to impose, as a voluntary homage, and he places our resignation in this life to our profit in the next. True repentance is derived from nature; if man endures whatever he is obliged to suffer, he does, in this respect, all that God requires of him; and if any one is so inflated with pride, as to attempt more, he is a madman, who ought to be confined, or an impostor, who ought to be punished. Let us, therefore, without scruple, fly from all the evils we can avoid; there will still be too many left for us to endure. Let us, without remorse, quit life itself when it becomes a torment to us, since it is in our own power to do it, and that in so doing we neither offend God nor man. If we would offer a sacrifice to the supreme Being, is it nothing to undergo death? let us devote to God that which he demands by the voice of reason, and into his hands let us peaceably surrender our souls." -- David Hume http://tinyurl.com/7we49zm

432 The autonomic nervous system's response to having your air forcibly or otherwise shut off is not, repeat not, a strong argument on the topic of suicide.

If you're so sure you want to dry try and will it yourself.

Here's a simpler one: Death is inevitable. Why not choose one at a time and place that suits you?

Same answer.  Say I'm done, sit there and wait.

I'm not here to debate this.  Just throwing a little truth and other options.  This is the 2nd go round for you.  Get to a pro.

433 >>> If you're so sure you want to dry try and will it yourself. You can't will it. The autonomic nervous system does what it does. It operates at a more basic level than personality-based decisions made in the pre-frontal lobes. That's the major problem with suicide. When you kill another person, as they become injured and disabled and in pain, this increases your ability to carry out your decision. With suicide, it's the opposite. You pretty much have to start and end with a coup de grace. And while that can happen, it usually doesn't. The body wasn't meant to die instantly as a rule. So it's a problem that has to be overcome. >>> Here's a simpler one: Death is inevitable. Why not choose one at a time and place that suits you? Because it F'n hurts and I'm tired of it. Besides, I don't have the ability to take effective actions to sustain my life anyway. >>> Same answer. Say I'm done, sit there and wait. Again, instincts can make it hard. I don't even have a place to live. I don't have money to buy a private place. Maybe a shared room on welfare, but I can't be bothered to do this. I have thought, per Hegesias of Cyrene, that I would restrict food and water and die by this method -- as many people have. But where? I don't have a place where I could do even that comfortably. I'd have to do it in nature, exposed to the elements as well. I don't trust myself to be able to overcome resisting my survival instincts during such trying and physically painful circumstances. So, to accomplish the goal, I have to use a more tolerable quicker method, and strike the coup de grace.

434 * >>> Same answer. Say I'm done, sit there and wait. (meant to quote that, not what I actually quoted, which is what I had written)

435

"So, to accomplish the goal, I have to use a more tolerable quicker method, and strike the coup de grace."

 

Find some sort of "cause" first, so the people left behind can use you as a poster.

 

Poster-child.  I meant poster-child.

436 ? David Hume?

So a well read emo.

Attn:  We don't give a fuck how you feel.
What are you doing? or have done?
See anyone?, Get Ketamine on the Street?, stay drunk a year?  walk into the nearest ER and say your suicidal?
DO all the things everyone has suggested and then if you still want to off yourself goto everyone who cares about you in the slightest and say
"Fuck you, I don't want to be in your future".

437 >>> Find some sort of "cause" first, so the people left behind can use you as a poster. The main causes I care about are legalization of suicide for anyone, freedom to buy appropriate tools for suicide, assisted suicide, etc. I know life can be painful and, out of empathy for others as well as libertarian principles, I oppose our society's coercion in this regard. I support people's freedom and, what's more, I think suicide is often a good choice. I would say there are probably more people who don't kill themselves who should, than people who kill themselves who shouldn't. A person who believes life has inherent value would see that differently. I don't. I believe the quality of life is the only thing that matters. And we should both be free to believe as we wish and follow our own principles to whatever end, provided we're not directly harming others. I don't mean others feeling emotional hurt over our actions or lack thereof--that's inevitable with or without suicide. You know what I mean. We should each have control over our own bodies, but not others' bodies.

438 So you are doing and have done NOTHING.

439 I'm not sure what you're getting at, DAve. >>> What are you doing? or have done? See anyone?, Get Ketamine on the Street?, stay drunk a year? walk into the nearest ER and say your suicidal? DO all the things everyone has suggested and then if you still want to off yourself goto everyone who cares about you in the slightest and say "Fuck you, I don't want to be in your future". There's no reason I need to do any of these things. And definitely not in the way you suggest. I've done other things. There's nothing bad about suicide that I have to prevent it, to start with.

440 Well dood I've gotta run and meet a guy who wants to live enough to take electro-shock to get out of his depression.

What I'm getting at is taking action vs. debating on teh toobz.
And if there's nothing bad about it then tell everyone AMF.

441 >>> Well dood I've gotta run and meet a guy who wants to live enough to take electro-shock to get out of his depression. Awful. I'd never do that. I think the procedure should be banned. I wish your friend well, but I think he's making a hell of an error. But it's his right. That's an action I will never even think about taking. It also has a neutral, at best, effect on suicidality, and probably increases it overall.

442 >>> With due respect, I don't think it is a good idea, including if he wants to live. http://youtu.be/r6WXey2b-jA

443 I should've said has taken, this was >4 years ago and he has a life now vs. being homeless or institutionalized.

And somewhat dis-respectfully your idea is to kill yourself so maybe your thinking is a little off.

444 DaveA, your thinking is the one that's off. There is no possibility of surviving forever; there is no good reason to believe in life after death. It's perfectly rational to end an unenjoyable existence. And even if I might have enjoyed it more than ot in the future, it's still a small mistake. A few decades of mixed pleasures and pains, lost, and experiences, none of which I'll remember. In a universe 13.7 billion years old, myself one of 7 billion upper-order thinking feeling beings and counting. Not a big deal.

445 *not

446 Besides, let's be real here. Most people here don't like me. It's not like I'm some valued beloved person.

447 All I've been saying is try EVERYTHING else 1st.  There's no downside from where you already are.

448 DaveA, I appreciate your efforts and have no doubt it is to your credit. But I can't agree with your thinking. "There's no downside from where you already are." If only that were so. But that's like saying there's no downside to running a cheese grater over the back of your hand, repeatedly for years. Emotional pain may not seem a sufficient reason to outsiders looking in, but on the inside, it's a whole lot different. And neuroscientists know it really, actually hurts.