July 26, 2012

Elections and Gun Control
— JohnE.

Last night President Obama spoke to the National Urban League in New Orleans and for the first time since the movie theater shootings in Aurora, he signaled his support for stricter gun laws. Despite the media's constant rallying cry for gun control over the past week, Obama has been very careful not to speak the words "gun control". He knows it's election suicide.

"I believe the Second Amendment guarantees an individual the right to bear arms," Obama said. "But I also believe that a lot of gun owners would agree that AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not on the streets of our cities."

Now, Obama has been much more honest about his beliefs on gun control in the past but I'm guessing Axelrod and crew have been poll-testing the hell out of "gun control" and they're seeing a loser. This recent Rasmussen poll (taken after the shootings) shows only 41% support for stricter gun laws. A Gallup poll taken after the Gabby Giffords shooting revealed a whopping 26% support for a handgun ban.

So, if you're Obama, what can you do? Enter the Orwellian phrase "curbing (tackling, taking on, reducing, etc) gun violence".

Most of the Obama-loving press knows what is going on here and are willing to play along. Others just can't seem to help themselves, and are trying to drag Obama over the finish line into "gun control". Watching this play out last night in the headlines was entertaining.

Chicago Tribune: Obama pledges to tackle gun violence after Colorado killing

CNN: Obama takes on gun violence in New Orleans speech

Reuters: Obama pledges to tackle gun violence after Colorado killing

ABC: Obama Renews Push to Reduce Gun Violence

LA Times: Obama calls for more steps to curb violence, including gun control. Oops, you went too far!

NBC: Obama addresses gun control for first time since Aurora shootings. And now the cat is out of the bag.

The Hill: Obama: 'Common sense' gun control for criminals, mentally ill

New York Mag: Obama Pushes Gun Control, Says Some Restrictions Should Be 'Common Sense'.

This is one of the few times you will see the press actively hurting President Obama's reelection chances, though they probably don't know it. Just how dangerous an issue is this for the President? Laura waded over to Democratic Underground and found a bunch of lefties tearing apart gun control. A sampling:

RKBA defenders know that "reasonable gun control" is code for whatever increment of civil rights we can take away TODAY. They also know that many (most?) in the gun control crowd will not be satisfied until firearms have been effectively banned.

Register all firearms? A necessary first step to confiscating all firearms, so why agree to it?

A limit on the amount of ammunition you could possess? Suppose it started at 1,000 rounds - how long before the gun control crowd was screaming about reducing it to 50 rounds?

Knowing that no amount of gun control will ever satisfy a substantial number of gun control people, why would a pro-gun person agree to concede anything? Next year, "reasonable gun control" will just mean greater and greater restrictions.

From a personal perspective, I've heard enough from the likes of McCarthey, Bloomberg, the Bradys, Schumer, et al not to trust them one bit when it comes to this issue.

Gun control is a terrible issue for Obama to tackle this close to an election; hopefully the press can shame him into saying what he really believes.

Posted by: JohnE. at 08:44 AM | Comments (199)
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1 BANG!

Posted by: soothsayer jumps in without reading at July 26, 2012 08:46 AM (nl+IM)

2 Dishonesty is the best policy.

Posted by: Barakhenaten I at July 26, 2012 08:47 AM (EszeI)

3 AK-47 in the hands of our soldiers? Does this guy know anything about our military?

Posted by: ddaz at July 26, 2012 08:48 AM (UpdGw)

4 What about SWAT teams?

Posted by: wheatie at July 26, 2012 08:48 AM (mtRB0)

5 Bring it on, baby!

"Common sense measures"..  "reasonable regulations".. that's the way it always starts.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 26, 2012 08:48 AM (f9c2L)

6 TOTUS is a Republican mole.

Posted by: toby928© at July 26, 2012 08:48 AM (QupBk)

7

Kal, toast me a Pop-Tart and then frost it for me -

Thanks.

Posted by: Barack Obama at July 26, 2012 08:48 AM (EszeI)

8 Barry  is   always  packing.

Posted by: Reggie Love at July 26, 2012 08:49 AM (msPO3)

9 C'mon, Oclusteroid.  Tell us what you REALLY want to do to America.  You KNOW you want to.

C'MON, you sack of crap....

Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 26, 2012 08:49 AM (wtvvX)

10

>>AK-47 in the hands of our soldiers? Does this guy know anything about our military?

 

He knows which side he's on.

Posted by: garrett at July 26, 2012 08:49 AM (EszeI)

11 If there are soldiers with AK-47s on the streets of American cities .... WOLVERINES!!! people ... WOLVERINES!!!

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 26, 2012 08:50 AM (qmMAj)

12 Having tasty Chick-fil-a for lunch. Mmm, mmm.

Posted by: dogfish at July 26, 2012 08:50 AM (2pEsd)

13 Always a nice touch when someone throws in a "but" right after mentioning something from the Bill of Rights.

Posted by: Michael at July 26, 2012 08:50 AM (Hl5ka)

14 Just ask the Anaheim PD how they feel about 100 round clips. Actually in a area like El Lay your foolish not too have a HC mag or 2, just sayin. This place is a tinder box, just wait till September when the blood smell of Uncle give me that is permeating the barrio.

Posted by: Clemenza at July 26, 2012 08:50 AM (eNLcY)

15 "Common sense" gun control for the "mentally ill".  And of course in the lefty mind, conservatism is a mental illness.

Posted by: yinzer at July 26, 2012 08:50 AM (/Mla1)

16 Knowing that no amount of gun control will ever satisfy a substantial number of gun control people, why would a pro-gun person agree to concede anything? Next year, "reasonable gun control" will just mean greater and greater restrictions.

If this person were to replace 'gun control' with 'taxes,' 'regulations,' or 'spending' he would complete his journey in becoming a Republican.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 26, 2012 08:51 AM (mIoJ0)

17 @ 10 good point ,it is a Cuban thingy

Posted by: Clemenza at July 26, 2012 08:51 AM (eNLcY)

18 "I believe that nobody should ever do that in your mouth. But I also believe..."

Posted by: Michael at July 26, 2012 08:51 AM (Hl5ka)

19 There is already 'gun control' for criminals and the insane.

Posted by: wheatie at July 26, 2012 08:52 AM (mtRB0)

20 I don't know that this is a bigger "own goal" than Roanoke, but it's pretty big.

Posted by: Ken at July 26, 2012 08:52 AM (rG0Q3)

21

Reading those excerpts from DU (bless Laura, I don't know how she can stomach that cesspool),   I want to grab them by the shirt collar and scream in their faces, "IF YOU UNDERSTAND THIS, WHY DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT BIG GOVERNMENT ENCROACHMENT?"

 

But I suspect the nuance would be lost on them

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 26, 2012 08:52 AM (4df7R)

22 Time for more of that "under the radar" gun control.  Maybe this time he'll distribute firearms to our own gangs, instead of sending them to Mejico.

Posted by: yinzer at July 26, 2012 08:52 AM (/Mla1)

23 MovableType delenda est!!!

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 26, 2012 08:52 AM (mIoJ0)

24 If they'd just chained the fire door shut, he never would have been able to bring those guns in.











It makes as much sense as the other stuff.

Posted by: nickless at July 26, 2012 08:53 AM (MMC8r)

25 funny how the Left is making the 2012 election all about GAYS, GUNS, and their god Obama

Posted by: soothsayer jumps in without reading at July 26, 2012 08:53 AM (OZ9Xn)

26 Common sense gun control, and just the tip. Really.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at July 26, 2012 08:53 AM (RD7QR)

27 I misread the title as Elton John and Gun Control. I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at July 26, 2012 08:53 AM (YOZSv)

28 The rank and file Democrats have been running from gun control for a decade. I like this.

Posted by: toby928© at July 26, 2012 08:53 AM (QupBk)

29 Ice T believe it or not said it best. To summarize, the 2nd amendment was to prevent tyranny and I'll give up my guns when they do.

Posted by: 13 year old student at July 26, 2012 08:53 AM (WY3bD)

30

The Hill: Obama: 'Common sense' gun control for criminals, mentally ill

 

Um, Mr. Preezy?  We already HAVE those things.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 26, 2012 08:53 AM (4df7R)

31 But...but...but...CHICK FIL A HATES TEH GAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: libtard at July 26, 2012 08:54 AM (d/5qf)

32

Oldie but Goodie 

 

 

Time to Ban That Dangerous AMA?

AMA Launches Attack on Guns.

Readers have a modest proposal: Ban those dangerous docs, before they kill again.

Writes one: "I find it interesting that the AMA is so concerned about gun control when statistics show us that more people are killed every year by doctor error than are killed by guns. I guess they feel they have a better chance of making a difference with guns than making doctors competent."

Another writes:

 

"Number of physicians in the U.S: 700,000. Accidental deaths caused by physicians per year: 120,000. Accidental deaths per physician: 0.171 (U.S. Department of Health and Human Services).

 

"Number of gun owners in the U.S.: 80,000,000. Number of accidental gun deaths per year (all age groups) 1,500. Accidental deaths per gun owner: 0.0000188. Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.

 

"FACT: Not everyone has a gun, but everyone has at least one doctor. Please alert your friends to this alarming threat. We must ban doctors before this gets out of hand.

"Remember: guns don't kill people; doctors do."

 

Posted by: ohio at July 26, 2012 08:54 AM (V1D1o)

33 It's just not right that anyone can walk into a gun store and come out with a bazooka.

Posted by: Bill O'Blather at July 26, 2012 08:54 AM (QupBk)

34 Stupid teacher banging sock.

Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2012 08:54 AM (WY3bD)

35

 

I'm trying to remember.....

Were there any AK-47's in those Fast and Furious guns that went into the hands of the cartels?

Posted by: wheatie at July 26, 2012 08:54 AM (mtRB0)

36

Ice T believe it or not said it best. To summarize, the 2nd amendment was to prevent tyranny and I'll give up my guns when they do.

 

When I read that    my first thougth was, "Wow.  So Ice T    has actually read the Declaration of Independence and Constitution?   Good for him!"

 

How sad is it that those things aren't a given?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 26, 2012 08:55 AM (4df7R)

37 The Hill: Obama: 'Common sense' gun control for criminals, mentally ill

Um, Mr. Preezy? We already HAVE those things.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 26, 2012 12:53 PM (4df7R)




Not only that, the Aurora shooter had no criminal or mental instability record. 

Posted by: Tami at July 26, 2012 08:56 AM (X6akg)

38 Well, you have to admit I got them off of our streets...

Posted by: Eric Holder at July 26, 2012 08:56 AM (FcR7P)

39 So Ice T has actually read the Declaration of Independence and Constitution? I don't give him too much credit. He just hates cops.

Posted by: toby928© at July 26, 2012 08:56 AM (QupBk)

40 It's called "Creeping incrementalism" see also: MADD

Posted by: Running Hobo at July 26, 2012 08:58 AM (l1oyw)

41 Barack's always been a little 'quick on the draw' if you know what I mean. He NEEDS 'gun' control so he imagines the rest of you do as well.

Posted by: Larry Sinclair at July 26, 2012 08:58 AM (YOZSv)

42 Listen guys, I'm pretty sure I know what I'm talking about when I say our Corpse-men have AK-47s.

Posted by: Baracka "Scholastic Genius" Obama at July 26, 2012 08:58 AM (xAtAj)

43 Not only that, the Aurora shooter had no criminal or mental instability record.

Posted by: Tami at July 26, 2012 12:56 PM (X6akg)

 

EXACTLY.   And when he TRIED to join a gun club, the owner of the club told his staff not to let him in because he sounded crazy on his voicemail.  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 26, 2012 08:58 AM (4df7R)

44 Why are we talking about this stupid gun control nonsense?  There are much more important things to talk about.  Like Chick Fil A.  And gays.  And Chick Fil A hating gays.

Posted by: libtard at July 26, 2012 08:58 AM (d/5qf)

45 Some people say that we should ban all firearms in Amerrica...heck, even slingshots (laughter from press corps).  And some others think rocket propelled grenades and bombs should be readily available.  I disagree with both, I think a common sense approach to keeping guns out of the wrong hands is something most Americans understand.  Now let me read you a letter I received from Tamika Washington, who's father was lost to gun violence while making a late night milk run for the family...

Posted by: Barky the Strawman at July 26, 2012 08:58 AM (/Mla1)

46 "A gun is a tool, Marian. No better or no worse than any other tool - an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that." http://tinyurl.com/bv9ggb3

Posted by: BuddyPC at July 26, 2012 08:58 AM (KCuY9)

47

>>Well, you have to admit I got them off of our streets...

 

You couldn't have done that on your own.  Someone had to have helped you do that.

Posted by: Barakhenaten I at July 26, 2012 08:59 AM (EszeI)

48 Democratic Underground at least understands how to win elections. Obama, fortunately, does not.

Posted by: NewBrunswicker at July 26, 2012 08:59 AM (ML7jt)

49 I don't give him too much credit. He just hates cops.

Posted by: toby928© at July 26, 2012 12:56 PM (QupBk)


He understands that cops are the one tyranny we allow by necessity.


Still smarter than the average liberal bear.

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at July 26, 2012 08:59 AM (xAtAj)

50 How dare a leftard use the term "common sense". They know more about the canyons of Mars than common sense. If they had any common sense they would not be fucking leftards in the first place. Why is there homeless walking around all over the place? Because we no longer institutionalize the insane. Instead, we let them walk around and kill people so they can scream for gun control and pervert the meaning of common sense. Fuck them with an AK-47.

Posted by: maddogg at July 26, 2012 09:00 AM (OlN4e)

51 34 Stupid teacher banging sock.

Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2012 12:54 PM (WY3bD)

 

...

 

For a minute there I thought that was a DRUDGE-style headline.   "You'd    have to be a stupid teacher to bang a sock,"   thought I,   "when there are     perfectly     good    sluts     on every street corner and Georgetown   campus."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 26, 2012 09:01 AM (4df7R)

52 He understands that cops are the one tyranny we allow by necessity.
Still smarter than the average liberal bear.

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at July 26, 2012 12:59 PM (xAtAj)

 

If he's so smart, explain Coco.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at July 26, 2012 09:01 AM (YOZSv)

53 Please please please make gun control an issue.  Please.

Posted by: huerfano at July 26, 2012 09:01 AM (bAGA/)

54

 

Seriously.....this really has to be contrasted with Fast and Furious.

 

"Mr. President, how was giving semi-automatic rifles to Mexican drug lords a way to...'crack down on gun violence'"?

Posted by: wheatie at July 26, 2012 09:01 AM (mtRB0)

55 Guns don't kill people... CHICKENS kill people!

http://youtu.be/7DrIB9fX5vU

Posted by: Nighthawk at July 26, 2012 09:02 AM (RSqz2)

56 Of course, Holmes went to a lot of trouble to tell someone he was nucking futs, if anyone had had the gumption to deliver his confession prior to his little party.

Posted by: maddogg at July 26, 2012 09:02 AM (OlN4e)

57 If he's so smart, explain Coco.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at July 26, 2012 01:01 PM (YOZSv)

 

Breasts.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 26, 2012 09:03 AM (4df7R)

58

If he's so smart, explain Coco.

 

He has a penis.

also, he likes more than 50% of his stuff.

Posted by: garrett at July 26, 2012 09:03 AM (EszeI)

59 JohnE. ?

If I was a coblogger here I'd post as Curious just to fuck wiith everybody.

That's one of the reasons I'm not a coblogger.

Posted by: eleven at July 26, 2012 09:03 AM (KXm42)

60 We need to ban those deadly semi-automatic machine guns.

Because I'm a gun expert, you know.

Posted by: Ellen Barkin at July 26, 2012 09:03 AM (SY2Kh)

61 And of course the catch-all phrase "gun violence" is only intended to pad the statistics in the favor of those who support gun control, since "gun violence" includes every violent act conducted with a gun, including suicides, self-defense, hunting accidents, etc., which have nothing to do with the commission of a crime

Posted by: chemjeff at July 26, 2012 09:03 AM (d/5qf)

62 If he's so smart, explain Coco.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at July 26, 2012 01:01 PM (YOZSv)


He likes big butts and he cannot lie.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at July 26, 2012 09:04 AM (RD7QR)

63 "Mr. President, how was givingsemi-automatic rifles to Mexican drug lords a way to...'crack down on gun violence'"?

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Well... umm there would be .... ah...increased levels of violence and umm.... deaths... that we er I could blame on...a ...... the gunstores... and the public would.... ummmm.... support moar gun control.

Posted by: Mr. President at July 26, 2012 09:04 AM (C8hzL)

64 when libs and lefties talk about "common sense" it almost always means they have nothing to go on.
Also, ever notice that the people who tell us that "only trained professionals like police should be allowed to have guns" are the same people who are first to holler "police brutality"?
Also, where are the RNC/Romney ads urging us to "Wish Barack a Happy Retirement! Donate Now!"

Posted by: mallfly at July 26, 2012 09:06 AM (bJm7W)

65 So Romney's dragged Obama back to talking about the the economy because "you didn't build that" and the MFM wants to layer on gun control?

I hope Ann Romney's got some nice drapes picked out. It's about time to start measuring.

Posted by: Andy at July 26, 2012 09:06 AM (5Rurq)

66 "Common sense reform" == Unscientific Freedom Erosion

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at July 26, 2012 09:07 AM (xAtAj)

67 Obama ain't tackling shit. he'll catch a stiff arm right in the face

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 26, 2012 09:07 AM (8sCoq)

68 Because I'm a gun expert, you know.

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Yeah what HE said...... you can get all kinds of machine guns and bazookas at gunshows with NO checks whatsover.... EVERYTHIGN GOES!!!!!

Posted by: Bill O'Fucktard at July 26, 2012 09:07 AM (C8hzL)

69 the American president thinks the national army carries AK-47s and we can't call him a communist because that's reactionary and extreme.

Posted by: NewBrunswicker at July 26, 2012 09:07 AM (ML7jt)

70

I hope Ann Romney's got some nice drapes picked out. It's about time to start measuring.

 

They are going to have to do some steam cleaning and fumigating first, I am afraid.

Posted by: garrett at July 26, 2012 09:07 AM (EszeI)

71 62If he's so smart, explain Coco.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at July 26, 2012 01:01 PM (YOZSv)

He likes big butts and he cannot lie.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at July 26, 2012 01:04 PM (RD7QR)

-------------------------

 

wasn;t he down with OPP?

Posted by: eurw at July 26, 2012 09:07 AM (2i1SY)

72 I'm not sure that Obama "coming out of the closet" on gun control really hurts him.  I have to believe that virtually all lovers of the 2nd Amendment would already be voting for Mitt.

But I don't think it helps him at all, either.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 26, 2012 09:08 AM (wtvvX)

73 Mr. President, if guns are so dangerous, why did you specifically give them to Mexican drug lords instead of law-abiding citizens when you wanted to gin up a climate of gun violence fear?

Posted by: t-bird at July 26, 2012 09:08 AM (FcR7P)

74 Why is there homeless walking around all over the place? Because we no longer institutionalize the insane. Instead, we let them walk around and kill people so they can scream for gun control and pervert the meaning of common sense.

Hmmm, yes. What we really need are some laws about rounding up and institutionalizing the homeless. Because of killing sprees committed by crazy people that weren't homeless. It's just common sense.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at July 26, 2012 09:08 AM (+lsX1)

75

Ahhhhh - I love it.  This year the Democrap campaign is turning into a target rich environment.  Shoot to Kill, Mitt. 

 

 

 

If we can't tear Obie a new bung hole in this election, then it's time to pack up and start making plans for emmigration.  If we can't win this cycle, America is irredeemably fucked.

Posted by: Reactionary at July 26, 2012 09:08 AM (xUM1Q)

76 He has a penis.
also, he likes more than 50% of his stuff.

Posted by: garrett at July 26, 2012 01:03 PM (EszeI)

 

I think Coco had a penis at one point too.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at July 26, 2012 09:08 AM (YOZSv)

77 In everything he does, he seems to be looking for a way to distinguish himself from Romney.  I think that's part of the reason that he came out for gay marriage.  Before Obama's announcement, Romney kept saying his views were the same as the President's...and Obama just couldn't have that be the case. Everything is about politics for Obama.  It's disturbing.

Posted by: sydney jane at July 26, 2012 09:08 AM (zYWPO)

78 We need government control.  A ban on assault regulations and high capacity legislation would be a big step back in the direction of liberty.

Posted by: Gordon undead Ramsay at July 26, 2012 09:08 AM (9HhTH)

79 I'm not sure that Obama "coming out of the closet" on gun control really hurts him. I have to believe that virtually all lovers of the 2nd Amendment would already be voting for Mitt.

But I don't think it helps him at all, either.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 26, 2012 01:08 PM (wtvvX)

You have a lot of union types who love their guns/hunting.  PA and MI are big states for those types, which is even more dangerous for him.

Posted by: Barky the Strawman at July 26, 2012 09:09 AM (/Mla1)

80

Heh.

 

B'Gal and  I watched   our first episodes of American Guns   and Sons of Guns last night.  I just picked it at random  to see what it was about.

 

To my surprise,  B'Gal  got a bigger kick out them than I did, and I enjoyed them.  Some parts were a little hokey,  but WTH, it's a  "reality show."  At least  they showed a CNC machine,  for which I had to smoke a cigarette afterwards.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 26, 2012 09:09 AM (d0Tfm)

81 I hope Ann Romney's got some nice drapes picked out. It's about time to start measuring.

Posted by: Andy at July 26, 2012 01:06 PM (5Rurq)

 

She'd better invest in curtain rods and windows, too.   Because Obammy and Mooch are going to steal everything that isn't actually part of the White House's frame.   I expect the Romneys    will step into the WH in January to find the entire interior has been stripped bare all the way to the foundation and the Bammys will have taken everything up to and including the Pink Panther insulation.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 26, 2012 09:09 AM (4df7R)

82 @52:

He likes his women inflatable...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 26, 2012 09:09 AM (wtvvX)

83 That comment was far more insightful than I would have given the DUmmies credit for.  On the other hand, I am amazed that the media bubble is proof against any actual reality.  I knew they were out of touch but I thought that they were still from this planet.

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 26, 2012 09:10 AM (Hx5uv)

84 Zero's idea of common sense is to arm border patrol agents with bean bags and Mexican gangsters with assault rifles.

Posted by: maddogg at July 26, 2012 09:10 AM (OlN4e)

85 I'd bet trains/light rail kill more people statistically than guns do.

Why don't they ban trains?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 26, 2012 09:11 AM (tf9Ne)

86 Zero's idea of common sense is to arm border patrol agents with bean bags and Mexican gangsters with assault rifles.

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Im soooo stealing that......

Posted by: fixerupper at July 26, 2012 09:11 AM (C8hzL)

87 I'm not sure that Obama "coming out of the closet" on gun control really hurts him. I have to believe that virtually all lovers of the 2nd Amendment would already be voting for Mitt.

But I don't think it helps him at all, either.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 26, 2012 01:08 PM (wtvvX)



Well if there is a pro-gun contingent on Democratic Underground, this turns out not to be the case.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 26, 2012 09:11 AM (z1N6a)

88 Typical  Barry.  Blathering  about  anything  but  the economy  and  the  debt.

Posted by: Aurora Scissorhands at July 26, 2012 09:12 AM (msPO3)

89 I think Coco had a penis at one point too.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at July 26, 2012 01:08 PM (YOZSv)

 

She's almost as hot as that chick from Shalamar.

Posted by: Eddie Murphy at July 26, 2012 09:12 AM (EszeI)

90 Obama thinks he is playing Chess.... by bringing up Gun Control now, he changes the conversation AWAY from his own incompetence, and the economy... to somthing that is (in his view) at least a debateable subject.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 26, 2012 09:12 AM (lZBBB)

91 Of course, Holmes went to a lot of trouble to tell someone he was nucking futs, if anyone had had the gumption to deliver his confession prior to his little party.

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I see Jimmy Ph.D is now contending that he has amnesia and does not understand why he is locked up.  Linked on Drudge.

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 26, 2012 09:12 AM (Hx5uv)

92 @79:  Barky, maybe you're right on that.  I wonder how many union doods would switch over gun rights?  I can't believe any of 'em would switch BACK to Oclusteroid because he's pushin' gun control.

Guess we'll find out...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 26, 2012 09:12 AM (wtvvX)

93 Because Obammy and Mooch are going to steal everything that isn't actually part of the White House's frame. I hope they take that "Daddy, This Is Not A Door" sign, too, because that's just embarassing.

Posted by: t-bird at July 26, 2012 09:12 AM (FcR7P)

94 I have to believe that virtually all lovers of the 2nd Amendment would already be voting for Mitt.

But I don't think it helps him at all, either.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 26, 2012 01:08 PM (wtvvX)

 

 

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You'd be surprised how many retards there are that think the Democraps are the same party they were in 1940, and still love them some guns.  Plenty of brain dead hicks who love both government cheese and their shootin' irons.

Posted by: Reactionary at July 26, 2012 09:13 AM (xUM1Q)

95 85 I'd bet trains/light rail kill more people statistically than guns do.

Why don't they ban trains?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 26, 2012 01:11 PM (tf9Ne)

 

Cars sure as hell do.   Why don't they ban cars?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 26, 2012 09:13 AM (4df7R)

96

80 Heh.

B'Gal and I watched our first episodes of American Guns and Sons of Guns last night. I just picked it at random to see what it was about.

 

You've never watched those shows before?

Then, you've missed a lot of back story. ....But it's not really necessary to know most of it, in order to enjoy the newer episodes.

Posted by: wheatie at July 26, 2012 09:14 AM (mtRB0)

97 57 If he's so smart, explain Coco. Posted by: Ms Choksondik at July 26, 2012 01:01 PM (YOZSv) Breasts. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 26, 2012 01:03 PM (4df7R) Yep, Big ole Boobehs. My only limited advice on Guns is Buy from private owners and stash. Buy and stash, Buy and stash. Buy Ammo that is sealed and store it accordingly. Tell no one what you have and how much of it you have. Don't talk about it on blogs, don't take pictures with it. When they come for it, they will come in a hurry. Keep a couple of old cheap guns in the open that you don't mind losing. Didja hear about the establishment of the new Marine Corp Police force? I'm quite sure Obama does not know what Posse Comatatus is nor does he care. They say it's for foreign investigations. Yeah, whatever.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 26, 2012 09:14 AM (9TTOe)

98 Barry: The members of the military who are fighting for me can have weapons but everyone else can't

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 26, 2012 09:14 AM (1Jaio)

99

I hope they take that "Daddy, This Is Not A Door" sign, too, because that's just embarassing.

 

You just know they'll take all the "How  to Safely Operate an Umbrella" manuals with them too.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 26, 2012 09:14 AM (d0Tfm)

100

In the US alone,        about 30 people die every year because of elevator accidents.       Why don't we ban elevators?

 

 

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 26, 2012 09:15 AM (4df7R)

101 Mooch'll be telling everybody that the desk that they thought came from the Lincoln administration was actually bought by her at a cute little antique store downtown.

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 26, 2012 09:15 AM (Hx5uv)

102 Cars sure as hell do. Why don't they ban cars? Have you seen my energy policy?

Posted by: Barry "ChoomWagon" O at July 26, 2012 09:15 AM (FcR7P)

103 Obama thinks he is playing Chess.... by bringing up Gun Control now, he changes the conversation AWAY from his own incompetence, and the economy... to somthing that is (in his view) at least a debateable subject.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 26, 2012 01:12 PM (lZBBB)



But he's still on the losing side of the issue.  Not a good choice.


I think he may be wanting to have the excuse of losing for being too liberal than for being a useless fukup.  Sounds better on the lecture circuit later.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 26, 2012 09:15 AM (z1N6a)

104 79 --"You have a lot of union types who love their guns/hunting. PA and MI are big states for those types, which is even more dangerous for him." Yes. And Virginia. I know several knee-jerk Dem voters who absolutely will NOT support any "gun-control" candidate. I am deeply grateful to the MSM for puffing this. It can only help us in close states.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 26, 2012 09:16 AM (C8mVl)

105 In the US alone, about 30 people die every year because of elevator accidents. Why don't we ban elevators?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 26, 2012 01:15 PM (4df7R)



How much from elevator-related violence?

Posted by: Oldcat at July 26, 2012 09:16 AM (z1N6a)

106 Off-topic, but a good op-ed in the WSJ about the red vs. blue political symbolism: The Hunt for Blue October http://online.wsj.com/article/ SB10000872396390443570904577546983663736496. html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

Posted by: rickl at July 26, 2012 09:16 AM (zoehZ)

107

You've never watched those shows before?
Then, you've missed a lot of back story. ....But it's not really necessary to know most of it, in order to enjoy the newer episodes.

 

Hmm, something I should know? They're new channels on my cable. Is   the backstory on their web site?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 26, 2012 09:17 AM (d0Tfm)

108 Why don't they ban cars?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 26, 2012 01:13 PM (4df7R)

-----

Oh, trust us.  We're on it.

Posted by: The Sierra Club and the EPA at July 26, 2012 09:17 AM (C8hzL)

109   3  AK-47 in the hands of our soldiers? Does this guy know anything about our military?
*
*
He sure doesn't know anything about me.

Posted by: A Corpseman at July 26, 2012 09:17 AM (exvgC)

110

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 26, 2012 01:14 PM (9TTOe)

 

Possee Comatatis is just Federal LAW, which we've seen the Obama Administration decide which laws to enforce...

 

We are, by Executive order, already in a National Emergency due to Terror, and more recently due to the proliferation of Russian Nuclear Fuel... he already has the dominos in place....

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 26, 2012 09:17 AM (lZBBB)

111 How much from elevator-related violence?

Posted by: Oldcat at July 26, 2012 01:16 PM (z1N6a)

 

It's all fun and games until the "LOBBY" button pulls a shiv.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 26, 2012 09:17 AM (4df7R)

112 good post JohnE.



Now if you can please just keep the blog keys away from Gabe "Chuckles" Johnson....


Posted by: reality check at July 26, 2012 09:18 AM (zsgo8)

113

It's best to get your Queen in play as soon as possible.

Posted by: Barakhenaten I - Tips on chess from the Pharoh at July 26, 2012 09:18 AM (EszeI)

114 Any gun owners that would vote for the JEF should have their firearms taken away because they're obviously too fucking stoopid to operate them safely.

Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny solidarity) at July 26, 2012 09:18 AM (LL02L)

115 How much from elevator-related violence? Posted by: Oldcat at July 26, 2012 01:16 PM (z1N6a) Let an SBD go in an elevator and watch folks trample each other to get out.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 26, 2012 09:18 AM (9TTOe)

116 Obama thinks he is playing Chess.... by bringing up Gun Control now, he changes the conversation AWAY from his own incompetence... to his own malfeasance in gun control. Thank you, Eric.

Posted by: t-bird at July 26, 2012 09:18 AM (FcR7P)

117 If he's so smart, explain Coco. DAT ASS!

Posted by: CLP at July 26, 2012 09:18 AM (NuJHD)

118 I will admit that there were a few Democrat gun-lovers I knew when I lived in Maryland, but I've got to believe they turned Republican long ago.  However, I bow to the collective wisdom of the Moron Horde, and will hope for further defections to our side...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 26, 2012 09:18 AM (wtvvX)

119 It's just not right that anyone can walk into a gun store and come out with a bazooka. Posted by: Bill O'Blather at July 26, 2012 12:54 PM




Wasn't that amazing? O'reilly was totally fucking clueless on this issue, then again he is mostly clueless on a lot of stuff.

Posted by: Berserker at July 26, 2012 09:18 AM (FMbng)

120 Just a reminder, there is no bigger problem than Chick-Fil-A.  Newsweek has issued this call to arms:  “WeÂ’re hoping to find a current or former employee of Chick-Fil-A who might want to spill the beans on life inside the alleged antigay company.”

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 26, 2012 09:19 AM (Hx5uv)

121 Didja hear about the establishment of the new Marine Corp Police force? I'm quite sure Obama does not know what Posse Comatatus is nor does he care. They say it's for foreign investigations. Yeah, whatever.

Relax.  The US military has had MPs for a very long time.  That the Marines are establishing their own MP units isn't cause to go chemtrail on us.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at July 26, 2012 09:19 AM (SY2Kh)

122
Obama is pushing CO into Mitt's win column

maybe NM, too

Posted by: Soothsayer Blanket Jackson at July 26, 2012 09:19 AM (9Q7Nu)

123 Wasn't that amazing? O'reilly was totally fucking clueless on this issue, then again he is mostly clueless on a lot of stuff. Posted by: Berserker at July 26, 2012 01:18 PM (FMbng) His Body Gaurds know an assfull about weapons.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 26, 2012 09:19 AM (9TTOe)

124 Makes perfect sense. The left has made him roll over on immigration and gay marriage, at the expense of hurting him in the general, only makes sense that the gun banners want their bone thrown at them as well. Expect unions and blacks to get something before the election. Personally I bet he legalizes pot at the convention for the youth vote.

Posted by: John Morris at July 26, 2012 09:21 AM (YhRJW)

125 "His Body Gaurds know an assfull about weapons."

SO DO I!!!

Posted by: Bawney Fwank at July 26, 2012 09:21 AM (wtvvX)

126 How much from elevator-related violence?
Posted by: Oldcat at July 26, 2012 01:16 PM (z1N6a)

We need background checks and a forty-eight hour waiting period to ride an elevator.  If it saves one life, it'll be worth it.

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 26, 2012 09:22 AM (Hx5uv)

127

I'm starting to think O'blabo is actively trying to lose this election. But why? Did he have a come to Jesus moment where he realized that he is terrible at this presidenting thing? Did he get word from his puppetmasters that he is destroying the liberal, progressive party by making their agenda obvious? Or does he realize that some serious shit is about to happen and he wants plausible deniability... "I wasn't in charge when that happened"? 

 

This is starting to bug me. It's getting scary out here.

Posted by: Madamemayhem at July 26, 2012 09:23 AM (iRgZG)

128

Posted by: Hollowpoint at July 26, 2012 01:19 PM (SY2Kh)

 

Actualy?  It is... Its a total change in both the mission of the Marines, and doctrine changes...

 

Marines are there to storm the beach... they are a fast reaction force... NOT Police.

 

And if you think that distinction is not important?  If you think that change in character and outlook means nothing?  wow.... just wow...

 

We had a Marine Guard company in Wahiawa HI... and they HATED being called guards, or cops.... fastest way to start a fight with them was to tell a Gate Guard Joke...

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 26, 2012 09:23 AM (lZBBB)

129 I think the time has come for resonable press control.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at July 26, 2012 09:23 AM (iaOP0)

130 "His Body Gaurds know an assfull about weapons."

SO DO I!!!
Posted by: Bawney Fwank>>

No Barney he said weapons not guns.

This is my weapon this is my gun....

Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 26, 2012 09:24 AM (tf9Ne)

131

Makes perfect sense. The left has made him roll over on immigration and gay marriage, at the expense of hurting him in the general, only makes sense that the gun banners want their bone thrown at them as well. Expect unions and blacks to get something before the election. Personally I bet he legalizes pot at the convention for the youth vote.

 

I say let him go after  all   the fringe groups he can  possibly find. Do and say every  idiotic thing he can   do to court their votes and support.

 

That'll just make the blowout in November all the more sweet. We could even call it a mandate, or something.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 26, 2012 09:24 AM (d0Tfm)

132 Relax. The US military has had MPs for a very long time. That the Marines are establishing their own MP units isn't cause to go chemtrail on us. Posted by: Hollowpoint at July 26, 2012 01:19 PM (SY2Kh) The Marines already have a police force. This is different. This is a fast response unit. And yes, as a vet I know a little about how the Military functions. One more thing, don't get me started on Chemtrails...........:-)

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 26, 2012 09:25 AM (9TTOe)

133

A big hairy public display of steely self-control is what Jug ears mqclusterfuck needs to demonstrate to get his street cred back.  Like, if he and the first wookie were to join Jesse and the Rainbow push coalition in a huge boycott picket of Chik Filet.  All of them that close to that much chicken,   that would be  true demonstration of commitment and willpower.

Posted by: Todd Bridges, first to go bad, last to go down at July 26, 2012 09:25 AM (x60m8)

134

107

Hmm, something I should know? They're new channels on my cable. Is the backstory on their web site?

 

Maybe. ....I've never checked out the websites for those two shows.

Apparently, 'Red Jacket' [Sons of Guns] has their own website that is separate from the Discovery Channel...because they're a business.

 

Well, so is 'Gunsmoke' on  American Guns.

But I haven't heard them mention their website....even though they probably have one too.

 

Both are family operations....one in Lousianna, the other in Colorado.

It's cool to see the different sort of 'flavor' that each one has.

 

Sons of Guns has always had some links to Law Enforcement and the Military.

American Guns has always had more of a window into private collectors and historical firearms.

Posted by: wheatie at July 26, 2012 09:25 AM (mtRB0)

135 Personally I bet he legalizes pot at the convention for the youth vote. Maybe he'll swear he'll do it after the election. He won't want his Occupy bloc so stoned that they can't find a voting booth.

Posted by: t-bird at July 26, 2012 09:25 AM (FcR7P)

136 Knowing that no amount of gun control will ever satisfy a substantial number of gun control people, why would a pro-gun person agree to concede anything? Next year, "reasonable gun control" will just mean greater and greater restrictions.

While I agree with this sentiment, it amuses me to see liberals use the slippery slope argument.  Whenever it is used on another issue, liberals go nuts saying that it (the slippery slope argument) is not a valid argument.

I've long believed that slippery slope arguments are valid.  It does not take a genius to see that a leads to b which leads to c.  Now, in and of itself, the argument may not be enough justification to not do "a", but it is not an illogical or non-factual argument.  Changes in the law and changes in public acceptance of things will always lead to something else.

So, for example, to say that legalizing gay marriage will lead to attempts to legalize polygamy is not absurd.  It's easy to see that once gay marriage is legal and accepted, people will say "well, if gender doesn't matter, why does the number of individuals involved matter?"  That isn't to say that is necessarily a persuasive argument against gay marriage, depending on your views, but it is not an invalid, illogical or non-factual argument.  The argument for gay marriage is that we should not stop "love" between people.  Well, how does that not apply to 3 people versus 2? 

All I am trying to say is that slippery slope arguments get a bad rap.  All a slippery slope argument is is an argument that there are fairly foreseeable consequences that will flow from action "x" that should be taken into account when making a decision.

Posted by: Monkeytoe at July 26, 2012 09:26 AM (sOx93)

137 No chicken in any pot!

Posted by: Barack Obama at July 26, 2012 09:26 AM (Hx5uv)

138 An explanation for Coco? That's easy.

http://tinyurl.com/24n4f4l NSFW

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 26, 2012 09:27 AM (da5Wo)

139 124--- "Personally I bet he legalizes pot at the convention for the youth vote." Nah. He'll restructure (forgive) student-loans. That's his best bet with the whipper-snappers. But he's still going to have a problem whipping up the enthusiasm of the yoots. The thrill is gone.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 26, 2012 09:27 AM (C8mVl)

140 Personally I bet he legalizes pot at the convention for the youth vote.

---

He got he4ckled by the pro-pot crowd in Oakland yesterday.  Link on Drudge.

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 26, 2012 09:28 AM (Hx5uv)

141 There is an interesting -- and unspoken -- subtext to all this. Think about one of the groups that has a disproportionate share of "gun violence" in its midst, and then think about the group the "Urban League" represents. Same group, no? Do they want to be the first to have their community surrender all weapons?

Think too about the "AK47" comment. First, if only soldiers were allowed to use them, the soldiers would be from communist countries or Muzzie terrorists.

Finally: if AK47s were totally banned, it wouldn't have meant a damn thing to the Aurora shooter. He didn't have one.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 26, 2012 09:28 AM (wZI4b)

142

I love how the Obama surrogates keep dragging out Osama's corpse can show how tough Obama is.


Ask Osama if Obama is against guns.
Ask Osama if Obama is against justice.
Ask Osama if Obama is against taxes for the middle class.

Posted by: Soothsayer Blanket Jackson at July 26, 2012 09:28 AM (9Q7Nu)

143 When they ban assault rifles only criminals will have assault rifles.

Posted by: Mrs Compton at July 26, 2012 09:29 AM (Why44)

144

 

In O'Really's world:

 

Madman Muntz here with the BIGGEST sale ever in our 42-year history.  Buy two Thompson  machine guns, get two free!  That's right, buy two, get two.  MOTAR ROUNDS!  Due to manufacturer overrun, we bought a special shipment of two tractor-trailer loads of rounds and can sell them to you at 66% off regular price.  Hurry in for the best selection.  But wait, there's more.  With every $100 you spend in the store, we'll toss in a FREE RPG round.  That's right, FREE!  RPG!    THe  more you buy, the more you save!!!  Come on down and stock up TODAY!

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 26, 2012 09:29 AM (BAS5M)

145 He got he4ckled by the pro-pot crowd in Oakland yesterday. Link on Drudge. Posted by: WalrusRex at July 26, 2012 01:28 PM (Hx5uv) Told ya'll not all smokers are stupid

Posted by: cajun carrot at July 26, 2012 09:29 AM (UZQM8)

146

Sons of Guns has always had some links to Law Enforcement and the Military.
American Guns has always had more of a window into private collectors and historical firearms.

 

Good synopsis.  We kinda picked up on that last night.  I guess I'm  late to start watching these shows  (hey,  I'm from Alabama), but they're pretty cool. They'll be in the regular rotation,  like BBC's Top Gear is on Monday nights.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 26, 2012 09:29 AM (d0Tfm)

147 Quoting weft cut-loop: "If this person were to replace 'gun control' with 'taxes,' 'regulations,' or 'spending' he would complete his journey in becoming a Republican."

^ ^ ^ This!

Posted by: Mr_Write at July 26, 2012 09:29 AM (VJUQK)

148 Finally: if AK47s were totally banned, it wouldn't have meant a damn thing to the Aurora shooter. He didn't have one. Posted by: MrScribbler at July 26, 2012 01:28 PM (wZI4b) Thank God, It prolly would not have jammed.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 26, 2012 09:30 AM (9TTOe)

149
Osama bin Laden's corpse has been morphed somehow into Obama's street cred and 'hawk' bona fides.



Posted by: Soothsayer Blanket Jackson at July 26, 2012 09:30 AM (9Q7Nu)

150 When Democrats outlaw guns, only Democrats will have guns.

Posted by: nickless at July 26, 2012 09:30 AM (MMC8r)

151 Ask Osama if Obama is against guns.
Ask Osama if Obama is against justice.
Ask Osama if Obama is against taxes for the middle class.

 

Ask Osama    if Obama is against    Death Panels

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 26, 2012 09:30 AM (4df7R)

152

oh yeah?

Ask Osama if Obama hates success.

yeah, thought so

Posted by: Soothsayer Blanket Jackson at July 26, 2012 09:31 AM (9Q7Nu)

153
Ask Osama if Obama is anti-military.




Posted by: Soothsayer Blanket Jackson at July 26, 2012 09:32 AM (9Q7Nu)

154

Posted by: Soothsayer Blanket Jackson at July 26, 2012 01:31 PM (9Q7Nu)

 

This is completely OT, but the "Blanket Jackson"   in your username reminded me just how completely screwed up in the head Michael Jackson was.  Who the frig names their kid "Blanket?"

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 26, 2012 09:32 AM (4df7R)

155 BackwardsBoy, Netflix has the first season of SoG. Not sure about American Guns. It helps to know backstory, but more than anything, SoG builds some really, really cool sh*t. You don't wanna miss it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 26, 2012 09:32 AM (da5Wo)

156 If the MBM wanted you to have an opinion, they'd issue you one.  In fact, they do.

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 26, 2012 09:33 AM (Hx5uv)

157
they're going to mention Osama so often that by November people will think Osama bin Laden is Obama's running mate

Posted by: Soothsayer Blanket Jackson at July 26, 2012 09:33 AM (9Q7Nu)

158 I saw, and experienced,  a chemtrail just  last night actually! It was right there on the kitchen counter between the ice bucket and the bourbon!

Posted by: and irresolute at July 26, 2012 09:33 AM (Q492A)

159

@75  "If we can't tear Obie a new bung hole in this election, then it's time to pack up and start making plans for emmigration. If we can't win this cycle, America is irredeemably fucked." 

 

There's nowhere  left to run.    Not on this planet anyhow.

 

This is the last hill to die on.

Posted by: Jaws at July 26, 2012 09:33 AM (A3yiq)

160

If anyone wants to quit screwing around with AK-47s and get some real personal protection, one of my customers would be glad to supply you with the right equipment.

 

Go to uralvagonzavod (dot com), pick out what you want and I'll arrange all the details.  Get something quick before any import restrictions are put on.

Posted by: jwest at July 26, 2012 09:33 AM (ZDsRL)

161

Who the frig names their kid "Blanket?"

Ask Osama if Obama would ever name his kid Blanket.

Posted by: Soothsayer Blanket Jackson at July 26, 2012 09:34 AM (9Q7Nu)

162 Actualy? It is... Its a total change in both the mission of the Marines, and doctrine changes...

Marines are there to storm the beach... they are a fast reaction force... NOT Police.

And if you think that distinction is not important? If you think that change in character and outlook means nothing? wow.... just wow...


Know what else has changed?  The types missions and wars the Marines are being tasked with.  They aren't storming the beaches in places like Afghanistan or Iraq, and probably won't be in the near future.

They're more likely to be dealing with Islamic assholes planting IEDs, and for that a police / investigations unit can be very valuable.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at July 26, 2012 09:34 AM (SY2Kh)

163 Who the frig names their kid "Blanket?"

---

Was "Fitted Sheet" already taken?

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 26, 2012 09:34 AM (Hx5uv)

164
don't worry about Blanket


Tito is now his custodian

Posted by: Soothsayer Blanket Jackson at July 26, 2012 09:34 AM (9Q7Nu)

165

Who the frig names their kid "Blanket?"

---

Was "Fitted Sheet" already taken?

 

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 26, 2012 01:34 PM (Hx5uv)

 

He rejected "Comforter" and "Duvet" as first names.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 26, 2012 09:35 AM (BAS5M)

166 they're going to mention Osama so often that by November people will think Osama bin Laden is Obama's running mate Ask Osama if he blames Bush

Posted by: t-bird at July 26, 2012 09:35 AM (FcR7P)

167 Was "Fitted Sheet" already taken?

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 26, 2012 01:34 PM (Hx5uv)

 

Guess so!   Also spoken for were "Afghan,"      "Quilt" and "Duvet."

 

...

 

You know what?   "Afghan Jackson" would actually be an awesome name.    Sounds like a blaxploitation hero's   name.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 26, 2012 09:36 AM (4df7R)

168

... AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not on the streets of our cities."

**

The sheer stupidity of this lame-ass, tired, old canard is overshadowed by the ignorance of what is actually being said.

 

**

And Fuck O'reilly too, he finally lost me the other night. 

Posted by: dananjcon at July 26, 2012 09:36 AM (eavT+)

169

nood top post

Posted by: Soothsayer Blanket Jackson at July 26, 2012 09:36 AM (9Q7Nu)

170
He'll restructure (forgive) student-loans. That's his best bet with the whipper-snappers.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille





5 bucks on loans being converted to interest free and "no payments required unless you've got a job".

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 26, 2012 09:37 AM (kdS6q)

171 104 79 --"You have a lot of union types who love their guns/hunting. PA and MI are big states for those types, which is even more dangerous for him." Yes. And Virginia. I know several knee-jerk Dem voters who absolutely will NOT support any "gun-control" candidate. I am deeply grateful to the MSM for puffing this. It can only help us in close states. ********* You can also probably fold in Nevada. From The Las Vegas Sun: Harry Reid Helps Open Shooting Park Reid helped to secure land and $61 million for the 2,900-acre facility under the Southern Nevada Public Lands Management Act. He was joined at the ribbon-cutting ceremony Saturday by National Rifle Association of America Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre, Rep. Shelley Berkley, Rep. Dina Titus, state Sen. John Jay Lee and Clark County Commissioner Tom Collins. Reid practiced shooting at one of the ranges, firing six rounds from a 12-gauge shotgun and hitting two clay birds. Each clay bird busted into pieces and the crowd cheered as Reid reloaded the gun. Collins also fired several rounds. http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/mar/27/tea -party-town-harry-reid-helps-open-shooting-park/ (There's a pic of Harry Reid with his gun at the link.)

Posted by: tasker at July 26, 2012 09:37 AM (r2PLg)

172 167 Was "Fitted Sheet" already taken?
Posted by: WalrusRex at July 26, 2012 01:34 PM (Hx5uv)


Michael thought "Pillow" was just too weird.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at July 26, 2012 09:37 AM (RD7QR)

173 The President prefers butter to guns. Just ask Reggie.

Posted by: Cricket at July 26, 2012 09:38 AM (DrC22)

174 Focus now, focus! It is about the economy and national security, so let's not let them eat news cycles by  playing the old  anti-gay/chicken and gun-grab  gag on us!

Posted by: and irresolute at July 26, 2012 09:38 AM (Q492A)

175 SoG builds some really, really cool sh*t.>>

Yes they do. Like this Quad MG42. http://tinyurl.com/d5gfecm

Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 26, 2012 09:39 AM (tf9Ne)

176 "just how completely screwed up in the head Michael Jackson was..."    As opposed to just how screw up Macauley is?   Remember, why didn't he testify?  Because he liked it.

Posted by: Home Alone and MJ has my number at July 26, 2012 09:39 AM (x60m8)

177 5 bucks on loans being converted to interest free and "no payments required unless you've got a job".

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 26, 2012 01:37 PM (kdS6q)


And/or make them dis-chargeable through bankruptcy. Which would increase the number of bankruptcies immeasurably, but that doesn't seem to bother anybody.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at July 26, 2012 09:39 AM (RD7QR)

178

Posted by: Backwards Boy at July 26, 2012 01:29 PM (d0Tfm)

 

You might be able to watch some of the previous episodes on the Discovery website.

 

Some of the projects on Sons of Guns have been....amazing.

'Joe' is sort of the wizzard.

[He's the blonde-haired guy, with the artfully trimed beard.]

He has licenses in heavy artillery, explosives....just about anything.

'Will'...the owner....once said of him, "The fact that that boy is such a devout Christain, is all that keeps me from being terrified of him".

Heh.

 

'Chris'....the young guy, is Will's son in law, now.

In the first season...he was the goofy kid who everyone made fun of, and pranked.

 

Posted by: wheatie at July 26, 2012 09:39 AM (mtRB0)

179

Will  on  Sons  of  Guns  doesn't  own   Redjacket  anymore  because  he  lost  his  FFL  after   failing   two  ATF  audits  in  a  year.  Seems  he  made  some  full-auto  guns  and  suppressors  off  the  books  for  his  friends  and  one  of  his  employees  ratted  him  out.  He  was  short  about   a  hundred  or  so   guns.   ATF  no  likey.

 

Besides,  he  did  dumbshit  stuff  like  build  twin  water  cooled  M-16s  for  their  small  boats  when  the  Navy  has  lots  of   air  cooled  M-240s  better  suited  to  the  mission.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at July 26, 2012 09:42 AM (6BgmB)

180 Quoting the intrepid destroyer of straw men: "But I also believe that a lot of gun owners would agree that AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not on the streets of our cities."

Prez Clinton is/was a master liar.  He can tell you the most obvious lie with a straight face, and not even give it another thought.  The skill that Teh One has mastered is to pound on fake people...or as Wikipedia so succinctly puts it, to "create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position"  I've never seen anyone better at it.

Well, let me tell you, Jug-Ears: there are a lot of anti-gun people that would agree that AK-47s belong in the hands of the American people to defend against the kind of tyranny you are setting up.  Regardless of whether the above statement is true or not, I win because shut up.

Posted by: Mr_Write at July 26, 2012 09:42 AM (VJUQK)

181 Guys, forgiveing student loans is a one shot deal. Announcing a no enforcement policy on pot is something that even the kids will understand requires they go all in to reelect Obama. If Romney wins he simply goes back to enforcing the law on pot just like he (could but won't) enforce immigration again. That is the beauty of lawless executive power, it makes those benefitting from it utterly dependent on who is the current POTUS.

Posted by: John Morris at July 26, 2012 09:44 AM (YhRJW)

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Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at July 26, 2012 01:42 PM (6BgmB)

 

Wow. I didn't know about that.

It was probably 'Vince' who ratted out Will.....he was the tatooed guy, who was always pissy about something....and walked out in the middle of a job, because he wasn't getting enought attention.

Posted by: wheatie at July 26, 2012 09:50 AM (mtRB0)

183 Obama needs a winning issue, and if guns was a winner, we can be sure he'd be all over it right now. The fact that he's not confirms what you said: They tested it and it's a loser. Americans want their guns. Period.

Posted by: Cornfed at July 26, 2012 09:53 AM (Hoy9u)

184 Criminals and crazies are already prohibited.  Maybe we should actually try enforcement?  I know its crazy talk...but it might work!

Posted by: Barak Obama at July 26, 2012 09:56 AM (vXf/G)

185 Personally I bet he legalizes pot at the convention for the youth vote.

Posted by: John Morris at July 26, 2012 01:21 PM (YhRJW)

 

 

 

If our side had any sense we'd have already beat him to it.  The fact that we still put people in jail for that is absurd. 

Posted by: Reactionary at July 26, 2012 09:59 AM (xUM1Q)

186 And Fuck O'reilly too, he finally lost me the other night.
Posted by: dananjcon at July 26, 2012 01:36 PM


That dude was toking on his own manroot. I swear his head was way far up his ass. You can't fucking buy machine guns like it was a frigging toaster oven as that nitwit claims. That stuff is sooo heavily regulated its not funny. Jersey is technically a class 3 state, but you got a better chance of smoking pot with god while tag teaming pam anderson before you'll EVER getting a machine gun permit in jersey. The penalties are brutal, and that fuckstick thinks dealers at gun shows pass them out like condoms in Berkley.

Posted by: Berserker at July 26, 2012 10:03 AM (FMbng)

187

What do erections have to do with gun control?  I mean, I get the inference, IYKWIMAITYD, but common'!

oh. eLections.  never mind.

Posted by: Emily Latella at July 26, 2012 10:04 AM (8g9qq)

188 Wow. I didn't know about that.
It was probably 'Vince' who ratted out Will.....he was the tatooed guy, who was always pissy about something....and walked out in the middle of a job, because he wasn't getting enought attention.

Posted by: wheatie at July 26, 2012 01:50 PM (mtRB0)

 

Yeah,  the  producers  of  the  show  wanted  to  keep  it  quiet.  The  ATF  was  very  pissed   and  the  street  level  agents  actually  enjoy  telling  other  gunshop  owners  about  it.   The  show  really  went  to  his  head  and  when  you  see  him  blathering  on  about  the  future  of  Redjacket  just  remember  he  doesn't  own  it  anymore.     

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at July 26, 2012 10:08 AM (6BgmB)

189 You could easily use 1,000 rounds at the range, with an MP5. I know you could fire 100's with a handgun in a short period of time. Take your family to the range you better bring lots of ammo. Planned parenthood kills 887 people a day. How about abortion control?

Posted by: joe dag at July 26, 2012 10:12 AM (hlZx/)

190 I think Coco had a penis at one point too. Many penii would be my guess.

Posted by: toby928© at July 26, 2012 10:21 AM (QupBk)

191 Call or write your President and tell him you are in favor of tighter gun control laws.

Posted by: holygoat at July 26, 2012 10:24 AM (XnwWl)

192 127 wrote, I'm starting to think O'blabo is actively trying to lose this election. But why? Did he have a come to Jesus moment where he realized that he is terrible at this presidenting thing?

I think he is tired of having both ValJar and Moochillini to keep happy 24/7/365.  He does not even like women by virtue of being constructively abandoned by his Mother and raised under Muslim precepts during his formative years.  Then Mom abandoned him for real and shipped him off to his White Grandma to finish his upbringing.  Women have been deciding things for him his whole life and he wants to be done with it.  He wants the days when he can finally live apart from Moochillini and quit pretending to love her and sing her praises.  Post-Presidency, he can travel the lecture circuit, give the same speech over and over again to rave reviews and see the wife and kids as often as bj clinton sees hillary.

Posted by: Will Not Assimilate For Food at July 26, 2012 11:01 AM (kXoT0)

193 If President Obama wants to make sure dangerous guns don't fall in the hand of criminals, the first thing he needs to do is fire Attorney General Holder.

I'd love to see THAT Super-PAC ad. . .

Posted by: looking closely at July 26, 2012 11:07 AM (6Q9g2)

194 From a commented on another blog:

Rob said...

It was like he staggered up to the third rail, owlishly starred at it for a few seconds, then whipped out his dick and started peeing.



Posted by: Kristopher at July 26, 2012 11:42 AM (0aV2C)

195 Barky the Strawman writes: 45 Some people say that we should ban all firearms in Amerrica...heck, even slingshots (laughter from press corps). No joke, I lived in the Netherlands for two years, and wanted to purchase a slingshot to address an uncontrolled pigeon population around my apartment. Sorry, no sling shots permitted in the country--they might be used as a weapon, after all.

Posted by: Boston12GS at July 26, 2012 11:42 AM (0VqvZ)

196 Who the frig names their kid "Blanket?" Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 26, 2012 01:32 PM (4df7R) ---------- It's short for "Wrong Side Of The Blanket". After all, MJ wasn't married to li'l Blankie's mom... poor little kid.

Posted by: Mary in LA at July 26, 2012 03:16 PM (9wOfB)

197 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at July 26, 2012 03:39 PM (6o4Fb)

198 I completely support gun control. Our government needs to control all dangerous and deadly weapons so the rest of us may live in safety.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at July 26, 2012 04:22 PM (up/so)

199 AK-47s do not belong in the hands of soldiers.
That is the enemy's weapon; soldiers with AK-47s are the ones shooting at us.

His comments are deeply offensive; he should apologize to every American family that has lost a son or father to an AK-47.

Posted by: dustydog at July 26, 2012 05:56 PM (pKzzK)

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