1 SCOAMF!!!

2 I prefer a big beaming fupa and bush

3 Holder perjured himself, pure and simple.  I can't wait for the MSM to latch onto this.  You know, the Watchdogs of Democracy, and all that stuff.

4 I actually hope they hold off till next year to hammer Holder and everybody else involved in this deal.  Makes a presidential pardon less likely that way.

5
"You Have More Than I Do,
And That Pisses Me Off!"

6 Hmmm...that's a first.

7

Why has nobody gone back and put together all of the news stories on American Guns going to Mexico that the MSM was running from 2007-2009?

I never watch network news, and I saw at least three major pieces on this in that time frame.

How about Obama making promises to Mrs. Brady that the wheels were in motion, but he couldn't talk about the details?

8 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

9
the DoJ is about to make a huge terror bust in 5, 4, 3, ...

10 Watergate did not have a body count.

11 We'll keep the light on for you Eric.

12 You know, the Watchdogs of Democracy, and all that stuff.

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at January 30, 2012 02:43 PM (QKKT0)

Do you owe yourself a new keyboard? I wouldn't be able to type that without spitting up.

13 Hmm. This could be the beginning of the admin tossing Steadman under the bus long enough before the election that he's not an issue. "Yes, we fixed that whole Fast and Furious thing by accepting Holder's resignation, move along, move along." By going through NPR they're just signalling the lefty base that it's okay to get rid of him.

14 Leave this peep alone!

15 I've hated the Chinless Wonder since he accused us of being a "nation of cowards" in regards to race.

That bastard has blood on his hands.  He needs to be in prison.

16 At risk of sounding raaaaacist: short rope, tall tree.

For all involved.

17 11 We'll keep the light on for you Eric.

Posted by: The Federal Prison System at January 30, 2012 02:44 PM (W9e8l)

And I need a new wife... Killed the last bitch when "she" cheated on me...

18

I am SHOCKED that NBC reported on anything from a Friday document dump.  That's the whole point of dumping the documents on a Friday!   So the MFM can pretend like nothing happened and anything important can just be swept under the rug.  I'm pretty sure it's written in the "Journalism for Dummies" handbook.  I KNOW it's in the most recent revised edition of "Politics for Dummies."   So again, SHOCKED.

 

But I guarantee I'm not as shocked as Holder was. 

 

*revels in his anguish*

19 You have to break a few eggs to make an omelette.

20 OT: I"m trying to track down where the 50k price tag to Moochelle's panty shopping spree comes from. The lede says 50k but I don't see it anywhere in the story itself. This is pretty scandalous. Or, should I say panty scandalous!

21

Awesome!

However, Barack O'Romney is still a stuttering clusterrino of a miserable failure.

22 The idea's out there.  Pernicious things, ideas.

The left's taken advantage of that for years.  Long past time we did, too.  (And it used to be something we did so well, until we went on permanent defense and apology mode.)

23 He's a lying cock sucker and every Republican candidate should be pounding on it. Put obama and his henchmen on the defensive. Attack Attack Attack

24 Holder will go to one of our country club prisons, like Eglin.  Tennis courts, no cells, no fences, etc. 

25 There are a number of perjury raps that should be going here. And these are not the "perjury traps" that they tried to get Cheney on and did get his aid in a shitty jury decision. This is real perjury to hide actual crimes committed.

But perjury is not the only crime committed here. We have numerous violations of law going here. We also have wrongful deaths caused by those violations. In most legal wonk terms, at a minimum that would be manslaughter.

The big question is what is Issa going to do? We know it goes as high as Holder on the perjury, but is he the one that originated the illegal activity to begin with, or was it Hillary or Obama?

Will they pursue this? I am beginning to think not. They are playing it for politics and not legality. I no longer have any confidence at all in any of the House or Senate Republican leadership.

26

the DoJ is about to make a huge terror bust in 5, 4, 3, ...

 

Posted by: soothsayer at January 30, 2012 02:44 PM (sqkOB)

 

Yeah, who are the remaining jihadist assholes out there on the hook for a well-deserved double tap?   Because whoever is at the top of the list should be looking over his shoulder and preparing for his 72 syphillitic virgins.

27 We shall always remember the sacrifices of heroes like Agent Terry, who gave his life for the cause of gun control.

28 *makes note to send Darth Issa case of Five Hour Energy*

29 Where's the outrage from Mexico?

30 Will they pursue this? I am beginning to think not. They are playing it for politics and not legality. I no longer have any confidence at all in any of the House or Senate Republican leadership.

Posted by: Vic at January 30, 2012 02:49 PM (YdQQY)

Then the Republic is dead. This is the rise of the American Empire....

31 Holder really DOES look like Steadman, doesn't he?

32 But I guarantee I'm not as shocked as Holder was.

The old-school media is of two minds about this story: on one hand, it's damaging to Obama; but on the other hand, it's that Big Story that they all went to J-school to break.

I remember Anderson Cooper covering it briefly a month or two ago, and the dude looked like he wanted to puke the whole time. Restrained and accepting of everything the Arizona sheriff (not Arpaio or Dupnick) was saying.

Obviously, the Obama-loving side of him is currently winning, but any journalist worth their name is facing that Big Story moment.

33

When I think about Fast and Furious, I cry.

So I try not to think about it.

34

Holder really DOES look like Steadman, doesn't he?

 

Like the progeny of Steadman and a Meerkat.

35 I no longer have any confidence at all in any of the House or Senate Republican leadership.
_________

How far back into the dusty history of forgotten centuries does one have to go to find such leadership worthy of confidence?

36 Holder and his willing minions belong in federal pound me in the ass prison for a very long time.

Till the end of time preferably.

37 And Ashcroft was supposed to be evil incarnate.

38

Unlike Scooter Libby, Holder will walk on this because, when you're trying to get the truth out of a Democrat, any excuse will suffice. Holder can say, "Well, it was never referred to in that memo as Fast and Furious so I didn't make the connection."

 

Hell, he could just say it slipped his mind. (His program got an agent killed and it just didn't rate with him.) But that will be good enough.

39 I no longer have any confidence at all in any of the House or Senate Republican leadership.

I have trouble evaluating because the Democrats in the Senate are Democrats first, and Senators second. There have been times (for both parties) when that was reversed.

40 Brian Terry's family will never let this go. 

I pray that one day they will see justice done for their murdered son.

41 I'll ask again: were these Arizona Fed DA's the ones Bush was trying to sack in 2006? Remember when the DEMS were crying night and day about the evil Bush politicizing the DOJ field office?

42 Doesn't it all not matter, even if the implication leads you right to the top dog?  Cause won't the top do issue and executive order pardoning himself and anyone else implicated?

43 I only watch CSPAN when they are grilling Holder.

44 31 Holder really DOES look like Steadman, doesn't he?     Only Steadman was involved with "Fat and Furious".  

45 Do we know for sure that his fingers weren't crossed when he was sworn in? He might have Issa over a barrel on this one.

46 Are you talking about Opera's Stedman?

47 I'm from the government and I'm here to help by providing machine guns to Mexican drug dealers and terrorists to kill people so that we can deprive you of your second amendment rights.

You're welcome!

48 My guess is that Holder will find some excuse to not testify come Thursday.

49 No chance Holder flips on the Whitehouse, very unlikely that the internal investigation will nail him, and also unlikely that Congress could get him prosecuted for lying to Congress. So whats the outcome here, 1) piss off all of the gun proles to ensure they remember to vote, 2) get enough buzz for a special prosecutor and kick the can past elections, 3) get him to resign?

50 49 My guess is that Holder will find some excuse to not testify come Thursday.
Posted by: WalrusRex

If he does testify and that's a big if....he better be wearing adult diapers.  Issa better do his job and rise to the occasion and make him shit his pants.

51 Posted by: ambrosia at January 30, 2012 02:59 PM (oZfic)

MOBY

52 41 Brian Terry's family will never let this go.

I pray that one day they will see justice done for their murdered son.

Posted by: mpfs at January 30, 2012 02:56 PM (iYbLN)

Hey, nothing another "Beer Summit" can't fix.  They drink Milwaukee's Best down there, right?

53

Will they pursue this? I am beginning to think not.
They are playing it for politics and not legality. I no longer have any
confidence at all in any of the House or Senate Republican leadership.

 

I believe about 8 months ago I said if this bastard does not go to jail I will blaim Issa.

 

Issa is taking all this shit on to himself because he doesn't want it done wrong.

 

Well ok... He sure as fuck better do it right! Issa, and all the other Republicans. If these people do not go to jail, it is because of Republicans. It will be because they did not fight again.

 

They have enough for perjury already, and they should be using that sort of thing against a lot of the lower figures to get them to turn on the higher ones, or else start making examples and throwing keys away.

54

If he does testify and that's a big if....he better be wearing adult diapers. Issa better do his job and rise to the occasion and make him shit his pants.

The hell with shitting his pants because people hit him with harsh statements and hostile questions. He should be in jail.

55 As with all Holder posts, one has to note that many senate R's voted for him despite his documented trail of corruption and political hackery and many beltway R's swore to us that he would restore honor to the DOJ.  If you don't know or feign ignorance as to what an "establishment Republican" is, please reference any Republicans who voted or spoke in favor of Eric Holder.

56

So whats the outcome here, 1) piss off all of the gun proles to ensure they remember to vote, 2) get enough buzz for a special prosecutor and kick the can past elections, 3) get him to resign?

 

Impeach him. And keep impeaching until they fucking prosecute. This is utterly utterly unconscionable, what they have done.

57 Entropy -- Ok, we impeach him. Then what, Reid never even lets the Articles of Impeachment on the Senate floor.

58

From the beginning, I've suspected Fast & Furious was conceived as an attempt to buttress anti-gun legislation and tighter regulatory controls. Ace called this 'The Big Theory' and more or less discounted it because it would mean the violent, bloody deaths of 300 people and counting were ultimately the point of the program, not an unfortunate result of a well-intentioned gun tracking operation gone awry.

Dennis Burke won't talk unless he's facing serious prison time, and maybe not even then. Without further corroboration, Holder won't be successfully impeached--emails are simply not strong enough evidence to successfully remove (or ideally imprison) the US Attorney General. So unless a major player at a high level comes forward--Obama's equivalent to Nixon's Howard Dean--then there won't be justice for the dead and their families. It is what it is: tragedy then farce then tragedy again. No justice for anyone.

59 7 Why has nobody gone back and put together all of the news stories on American Guns going to Mexico that the MSM was running from 2007-2009?
I never watch network news, and I saw at least three major pieces on this in that time frame.
How about Obama making promises to Mrs. Brady that the wheels were in motion, but he couldn't talk about the details?

Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2012 02:43 PM (BAOlz)

Check out Free Republic. The Keyword Gunrunner

60 Entropy -- Ok, we impeach him. Then what, Reid never even lets the Articles of Impeachment on the Senate floor.

Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2012 03:17 PM (WkuV6)

------------

If the House successfully impeaches him Reid will have no choice. But I am sure they will not convict.

That is why I want to see a special prosecutor.

61 Why does Obama hate Mexicans so much to the point that he would put guns into the hands of drug runners to kill them?

62 issa 's site

Fast   and   furious   investigation    Dot    com

63

 I"m trying to track down where the 50k price tag to Moochelle's panty shopping spree comes from. The lede says 50k but I don't see it anywhere in the story itself. This is pretty scandalous. Or, should I say panty scandalous!

 

 

NASA spent millions last year trying to design a chiffon that doesn't show the body hair underneath, hence the expense.

64 Anyone else notice azcentral,com writer Dennis Wagner quoting known whackjob and militiaman Mike Vanderboegh?

65 ""Some of these weapons bought by these clowns in Arizona have been directly traced to murders of elected officials in Mexico by the cartels, so Katie-bar-the-door when we unveil this baby."
Oh, right! Holder will just say, "Oh, Mexico, we gave AKs to some of your cartels and they killed a bunch of your government officials. Now, aren't you mad about our gun shops?"

It was to remain a secret, to further ban guns in the U.S. End of story.

66

Barack Hussein Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

I do not denounce myself.

67

 Anyone else notice azcentral,com writer Dennis Wagner quoting known whackjob and militiaman Mike Vanderboegh?

 

Mike and David Codrea broke the story and have pursued it like the hounds of hell and that is the only reason Holder is in trouble now.

And the Dutchman is no "whackjob" but you might be asshole. 

 

68

Re the deliberate assault on the 2nd Amendment theory of Fast and Furious -- it would not be the first example in history of pious fraud.

69 Mike and David Codrea broke the story and have pursued it like the hounds of hell and that is the only reason Holder is in trouble now.
And the Dutchman is no "whackjob"but you might be asshole.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at January 30, 2012 04:23 PM (6BgmB)

Like it or not, the passage of ObamaCare was accomplished by a Democratic majorities and a Democratic President in the White House, both branches elected by a majority of our fellow citizens, which makes Mike Vanderboegh's calls for vandalism and intimidation on the passage of ObamaCare inexcusable; e.g., bricks through windows, threatening phone calls, cut gas lines in private homes. Good men do not advocate or use low-grade political terrorism or extortion as a tactic.

So is the Dutchman a whackjob? Probably not, but his lack of judgement demonstrates he isn't much of a leader, either.

70 Note that NPR lied when they claimed the program was intended to track guns to drug gangs. They know full well it was designed to get around such tracking, to prevent it, and that agents were disciplined for trying to keep control over those guns - the entire reason why this *IS* a crime and not a bungled investigation, the very reason we're still talking about it. I really could not have more contempt for so-called reporters and their lies. They are regular accessories to crimes, as long as it supports their ideology in some way.

71 It's so cute the way Vic says if the House votes to impeach, then Harry Reid won't have a choice but to have a trial.  Because why, the Constitution says so?  

72

<i>Good men do not advocate or use low-grade political terrorism or extortion as a tactic. </i>

 

-----

 

Don't insult the founding fathers. They got nothing to do with this.

73

Entropy -- Ok, we impeach him. Then what, Reid never even lets the Articles of Impeachment on the Senate floor.

 

You cannot simply assert this. Make him actually do it.

 

If that is who and what Reid is, let us see.

74 @troyriser, you might take issue with the tactic, but you should read your history to see what "good men" do or don't do in places like Boston and Philadelphia in times like, oh, say the 1770s.

75

Entropy is right. Make 'em drop the mask in front of the cameras with the whole world watching, once and for all.

Of course this was about gun control from the beginning. It was never about anything else. That's why Burke was in it in the first place. Personnel is policy.

76 "@troyriser, you might take issue with the tactic, but you should read your history to see what "good men" do or don't do in places like Boston and Philadelphia in times like, oh, say the 1770s. Posted by: Ken at January 30, 2012 08:40 PM (ZnE3s)" The Founding Fathers stood on the firing line and traded volleys with the then-greatest infantry in the world. One of the reasons Washington was so adamant about training in his men in conventional tactics was so the Revolution wouldn't degenerate into a protracted, scorched earth guerrilla war, to prevent the kind of acts you describe. But hey, Billy Badass, if you think it's okay to cut gas lines to family homes or throw bricks through windows or make threatening phone calls to the homes of a political opponents if an election or a vote doesn't go your way, as advocated by that Dutchman guy, then by all means do so, although doing so would make you a chickenshit, lowlife bastard.

77 **** BREAKING **** Eric Holder to switch to the "Wizard of Oz" defense. Will take up the "Cowardly Lion" poise