1 Because the EPA waited until more than three years after the statutory
deadline to act on TexasÂ’s submission, we order the EPA to reconsider it
expeditiously.

Legal speak for kiss my lily white ass.

2 The president is a scoamf

3 Good the EPA is out of control

4 No way first.

5 This post is like deja vu all over again

6 Can we please see the EPA slapped until its teeth fall out?

Oh, never mind the slapping, haul out the Louisville Slugger.

And never mind the teeth, keep going until we see the fecal matter that passes for brains at that agency.

7 I am so happy about this.

8 Because the EPA waited until more than three years after the statutory deadline to act on TexasÂ’s submission, we order the EPA to reconsider it expeditiously.

Heh.  I'm sure the EPA will get right on that.

9 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

10 The EPA needs a serious reorganization. I'm thinking knock it back to 25 employees, tops.

11 Emanations, penumbra. Racism. Trayvon.

12 Didn't Barky already get one contempt citation for pretty much this same sort of shenanigans by one of his other agencies infested with America-hating marxist scum?  Maybe he's collecting contempt cites?  They are kind of pretty.

13 Good.  This is rthew second major slap down of the Obamanites run wild. Here is the link I posted yesterday on the EEOC slap down WITH prejudice.

http://is.gd/zOgSMU

14 So,can the courts do anything on the ban of new coal powerplants?

15

Because the EPA waited until more than three years after the statutory deadline to act on TexasÂ’s submission, we order the EPA to reconsider it  expeditiously.

 

Wait - we feel an adumbration coming on ...

16 Oh hell yeah. Thank you Texas!

17 It's the reappearin' post!

18 Uh-oh, Daddy will be drinking tonight!

19 Who died and made the 5th Circuit king?

20 Dave in Texas hates childrens. And Mexicans.

21 Baraka is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

22
This administration will not be brought to regulation by some silly notion called Law

23 All your 2-cycle lawnmower are belong to us

24 "* No he didn't. I just enjoy lying.

You had me going there for a moment. No, not about the lying bit. I'm right there with you. It was the DiT amicus. I'm pleased to know that DiT is just a Checkbox Commenter like the rest of us.

25 In other words the 5th Circuit to EPA "The Law mother fucker, do you speak it?

26 In order to be in compliance with the proposed regulations, coal-based power plants have been encouraged to invest in equipment that captures carbon emissions and buries it underground for “permanent storage.” But there’s a catch: carbon capture and storage tech isn’t yet “commercially available,” according to the coal industry. Not to worry; the EPA believes the tech will be available soon enough. “Supporters of the rules argue that the industry has been moving away from coal and towards natural gas because of low prices and abundant supply,” Reuters reports. “The portion of U.S. electricity fired by coal has slipped from about 50 percent to 45 percent in the last few years as hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, and other drilling techniques have allowed access to vast new domestic supplies of natural gas,” the report adds. However, as Ed Morrisey of Hot Air points out, considering the EPA’s current stance against natural gas, this argument may not hold up very well: This leads us to the natural-gas option…The response might be, “Well, okay, Obama’s bankrupting the coal industry, but we can still use natural gas.” That’s only true if we can get the natural gas. The EPA has also begun blocking the use of hydraulic fracturing, better known as fracking, which allows for massive improvement in extraction and access to vast amounts of natural gas.

27

If the House had any balls they would immediately cut the funding of the EPA by half. If not more. And if the SCOAMF objects they can say that since he has demonstrated that he will not play by the rules, e.g., recess appointments when the Senate is not in recess, they also, are not bound by any rules. And they would be on firmer ground, since they do have the constitutional authority to fund. Or not, as in this case.

But of course, they have no balls. So the tyranny continues.

This always to Dinosaurs. Or something like that. My latin is poor.

28 I like your style.

29 Yeah, but....I won.

30 They refused to read Dave's semen stained, crayola written brief for some reason. All is stated was Fuck You EPA!

31

...vacated and remanded with instructions to quit "bein a bunch of dicks"

 

pretty sure that's what it said.

32 Court:  F~ck you EPA asshats.

33 Enough already!

34 Now, Texas, would you please kick the DoEd's ass into an EPA Approved swamp just to watch it die?

35 Chillrun hardest hit.

36 thank you Texas

37

Don't mess with Texas.

....

And, to go way back, for those who will know:

COME AND GET IT

 

38 Please, make it stop!

39 The proposed regulations would limit emissions from new coal-based plants, which, of course, would disincentivize anyone from building a new plant. And although the proposed regulations don’t specifically dictate which fuels a plant can and can’t burn, the rules still require new coal plants to match the dioxide emissions from more efficient gas plants, according to Reuters. “The proposed rule…will require any new power plant to emit no more than 1,000 pounds of carbon dioxide per megawatt of electricity produced,” the Washington Post’s Juliet Eilperin writes. “The average U.S. natural gas plant, which emits 800 to 850 pounds of CO2 per megawatt, meets that standard; coal plants emit an average of 1,768 pounds of carbon dioxide per megawatt.” The new rules are supposedly meant for only new plants, but the proposed emissions standards could set the stage for the EPA to regulate existing plants in the coming years, Reuters adds. “We’re putting in place a standard that relies on the use of clean, American made technology to tackle a challenge that we can’t leave to our kids and grandkids,” EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson said in a release.

40

13 Good. This is the second major slap down of the Obamanites run wild.

 

Yes! .....Long overdue, but we'll take any slap downs of these gonzo weasels.

41 @24 All your 2-cycle lawnmower are belong to us

My trusty Lawn-Boy Pro 21"...sob-sob

42

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone in SD at March 27, 2012 07:41 PM (O2+AI)

 

Ah, ACS meeting!

43 Damn sock.

44

33 ...vacated and remanded with instructions to quit "bein a bunch of dicks"

 

pretty sure that's what it said.

 

Heh. It would be great if that were in there.

45 @40 Please, make it stop!
The Chicken at March 27, 2012 07:41 PM

Can we interest you in some petroleum lubricants perhaps?

46 Is it too much to hope that AZ can get rid of the effing regulations about air quality that are about to cost us millions in lost fed funds? We're a desert dustbowl, you idiots.

47 Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 27, 2012 07:42 PM (kBe37) yup

48 "GAH! GAH!"

49 It's almost as if these justices don't rule based on public opinion. There is still hope.

50

In order to be in compliance with the proposed regulations, coal-based power plants have been encouraged to invest in equipment that captures carbon emissions and buries it underground for “permanent storage.”

 

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In other words, put it back in the ground where we found it in the first place.  Future energy reserves, I suspect.

51 Sorry, O/T, but something happened to JNicholsonReal's twitter feed. It says "that user is suspended." What causes something like that?

52 But... the EPA protects the baby eagles from the evil industrialist Koch brothers!

53 See the article on the Jetblu pilot that went nuts?Laurie Dhue was on that flight and witnessed it.

54 Funny how avalanches kind of get out of control so quickly. Wonder if we should do something about it? No problem. I got one of them big scoop shovels.

55 If I had a son like Trayvon, minor source pollution would have killed him.

56 55 But not from windmills.

57

C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!!!

58 This calls for an adult beverage. One for the good guys.

59

What the hell will liberals have left to argue with if we take these 2 arguments away.

 

Hmmm ... polar bears? No? Lemme see ... /lib

60  See the article on the Jetblu pilot that went nuts?Laurie Dhue was on that flight and witnessed it.

Posted by: steevy at March 27, 2012 07:47 PM (7W3wI)

 

----------------------------------------

 

Seems like everything bizzarro  happening on on passenger planes happens on Jetblu airplanes.

61 So funny. As I read this I am listening to a song by a German metal band called Edguy. "New Messiah." Granted, it was done before the Obama Revolution, but I can't hear this without dreaming of unicorns and hippies on Segways.

62 yeah permanent carbon sequestration is mostly just theoretical at this point EPA : fuckers

63

What the hell will liberals have left to argue with if we take these 2 arguments away.

 

SHUT UP, that's what.

64 In other environmental news, my bamboo is coming in again.

65 Can we at least get the units right? Pounds of CO2 per megawatt makes no sense at all. It would have to be pounds/(some time unit) per megawatt, or pounds per megajoule (or megawatt-hour).

Seen on a poster in a middle school math classroom:
"Well, I came up with 17 hours"
"I got 24 miles"
"Either way, that's a lot of orange juice"

66 Is Ed Koch one of Koch Brothers? I've lived in NYC all my life and this seems strange. I'm so confused!!!

67 See the article on the Jetblu pilot that went nuts?Laurie Dhue was on that flight and witnessed it. I'd like to storm her cockpit. IYKWIMAITYD.

68  But not from windmills.

Posted by: steevy at March 27, 2012 07:48 PM (7W3wI)

;;;;

 

Did you know that wind farms are wiping out bat populations? Nope, not because they get hit by the blades, they have echolocation so they miss the blades. The turbulence collapses their little lungs.

69 President Romney's going to have to break out the firing stick. Also, since academia, federal lawyers, and the EPA are at war with America, the people and the concept, he'd better start hiring some of us certified conservative lawyers.

70 They really need to scale down the EPA but they probably have their own regulations barring that... For the Children (TM).

71 Hey chemjeff! Enjoying my town?

72

Hi everyone!

73

Trevor Louden dot com.

 

74

Can we at least get the units right? Pounds of CO2 per megawatt makes no sense at all. It would have to be pounds/(some time unit) per megawatt, or pounds per megajoule (or megawatt-hour).

 

Let's lose the Imperial units entirely, and go to kilograms, shall we?

75 73 Yeah,maybe it wasn't such a gaffe when he said he "liked to fire people".

76 What the hell will liberals have left to argue with if we take these 2 arguments away.

You will do it: because these polite young men in their matching uniforms are asking nicely, and their Lugers and MP40s aren't pointed at you right now.

77 The SCoaMF and his proxy the EPA are mad at Texas. Why? Because Texas has defied a few of their unconstitutional edicts. So this is one of the ways they tried to use to get even.
 
wtg, 5th Circuit. Now, if you could issue an order that all EPA employees submit to a cattleprod anal probe for their lawlessness, I'd be eternally grateful. Hint -- Barney Frank is about to be unemployed and would be perfect for this job.

78 #78

Lets not. It pisses off the Euros.

79 @71. That sounds dirty somehow.

80 72 Yeah,I've read about that.Now imagine if any non "green" power source did that.

81 Also, since academia, federal lawyers, and the EPA are at war with America, the people and the concept, he'd better start hiring some of us certified conservative lawyers.

 

Posted by: joeindc44 also punches above his weight (which is bad for you cause I am jacked) at March 27, 2012 07:56 PM (QxSug)

 

-------------------------------------

 

You might want to send him an email and explain what a "conservative lawyer" is. 

82 Hi everyone!

Posted by: Hummingbird at March 27, 2012 07:57 PM (ONsld)

How YOU doin?

83

Also, since academia, [...] is at war with America

 

This is why we should push the Khan Academy. It's superb, and takes universities out of the educational picture. The more we can do this, the better.

84 If this ruling stands, Rick Perry will shoot your dogs.

85 See the article on the Jetblu pilot that went nuts?Laurie Dhue was on that flight and witnessed it.

Posted by: steevy at March 27, 2012 07:47 PM (7W3wI)
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Laurie Dhue is teh hawt.  You hardly ever see her on there any more. She lost her job at Fox, most likely due to her fondness for alcohol.

86

Lets not. It pisses off the Euros.

 

Let's just stick to telling that soccer is gay. That pisses them off enough. Mixing Imperial and metric units just makes for messy calculations.

87 Texas sent the EPA packing just like that one-legged bastard Santa Anna.

88 89 Yeah,but she was interviewed over the phone(by Sheppie) on Fox about this.

89 mpfs you are in san diego? I thought you are in texas

90

Posted by: steevy at March 27, 2012 07:59 PM (7W3wI)

....

Hey, the end justifies the means!

91

#86

I am doing great.  Stuck loaned me a laptop for a few days.  How are you?

92 #89

I'd pay some serious scratch to be her TSA screener.  /drool

93 Why do I have the feeling that this will actually have no effect, that the administrration will issue a waiver and say that Texas can't have coal plants or some shit and say go ahead, sue me. I just wiped my ass on this order.

94 Ace, if you really enjoy lying, you could be the next David Brock. I'd have said Charles LGF Johnson but that would be a low blow... Brock... blow... ha ha ha...

and re 41, if King O is reelected and, worse, if the Dems take back Congress, the EPA could just as easily later insist on a new standard that "will require any new power plant to emit no more than 600 pounds of carbon dioxide per megawatt of electricity produced"

It's like Jesus said, if you want to be perfect you need to give everything away to the poor. As the fed'l gov't is trillions of dollars in debt, the bureaucrats will be happy to help you become perfect.

95 Thanks to Dave in Texas, who actually filed an amicus brief in this case, quoted extensively in the ruling.* No, Ace. You misunderstood what he said. Dave WEARS amicus briefs. It's a kind of g-string, and if he asks, NO, you do NOT want to see them.

96 yeah I am with Jay, imperial units suck

97

Cinsidering I haven't broken out my wine yet, I'm great.

----

SOS did warn you about this place, right?

98 Can we at least get the units right? Pounds of CO2 per megawatt makes no sense at all. It would have to be pounds/(some time unit) per megawatt, or pounds per megajoule (or megawatt-hour).

Seen on a poster in a middle school math classroom:
"Well, I came up with 17 hours"
"I got 24 miles"
"Either way, that's a lot of orange juice"

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at March 27, 2012 07:54 PM (eOVyl)

"profits AND earnings ratios"

99

"Thanks to Dave in Texas, who actually filed an amicus brief in this case, quoted extensively in the ruling.*"

So what has this all to do with DiT and his vagaphobia?

100 65  As I read this I am listening to a song by a German metal band called Edguy. "New Messiah."

Posted by: Pug Mahon at March 27, 2012 07:53 PM (cujSl)

Ah, thanks for giving me a reason to crank up "Arrows Fly."

101 Time to deliver oodles of chicken dinner to our 16 local volunteer firefighters, later morons.

102 what would amicus briefs look like? a thong with "we the people" written on front?

103 CoolCzech,

DO NOT EVER...EVER TELL US HOW YOU CAME BY THAT KNOWLEDGE.

I still occasionally require sleep, you know.

104 Obama reminds me of the Zakk Wylde song "Suicide Messiah".

105 @106: stop bogarting my gags, chemjeff. But since you asked: they're rubberized and have little Playboy bunnies printed on them.

106 OT -- I'm at a healthcare rally in Colorado Springs. News gal borrowed my homemade sign, used the side I told her was my LEAST favorite. I may update later.

107 amicus briefs : bikini shorts that say "let's form a more perfect union, baby"

108 Sandra. |m|

109

See the article on the Jetblu pilot that went nuts?Laurie Dhue was on that flight and witnessed it.
Posted by: steevy at March 27, 2012 07:47 PM (7W3wI

 

Why is she not on my TV anymore... teh hot

110 Soccer?  Gayer than a French horn.

111 Why is she not on my TV anymore... .. because she can't lay off the booze

112 \m/

113 113 As Vic mentioned earlier it seems she was fired because she is an alcoholic.

114 amicus briefs :
bikini shorts that say "let's form a more perfect union, baby"

I think those are called amiable briefs.

115 Is "pimp-slap" harder than "bitch-slap"?   Same target, I understand, but do pimps hit harder than regular wife-beaters?  Is it a professional thing?

116 yeah I am with Jay, imperial units suck Posted by: chemjeff on the phone in SD at March 27, 2012 08:06 PM (5F1NW) Tell me about it - they can't shoot for shit.

117 Why is she not on my TV anymore... teh hot Posted by: The Jackhole at March 27, 2012 08:11 PM (nTgAI) I think she liked the spirits a tad to much

118 coolczech sorry but you didn't exactly patent your gag

119 Soccer?  Gayer than bicycle safety helmets.

120

#101

  I have a great time reading and sometimes posting from Stuck's house.  This is the first time I've had a computer at my place in almost three years.  I've read enough now that I have a pretty good idea about how this place works.  Don't worry, I can take care of myself.

121 Eric Holder fucks up again: "Mich. militia members cleared of charges that accused them of plotting war against government". http://tinyurl.com/cskks9l

122 Laurie Dhue makes me think of Laurie Dann, which really kinda sucks.

123 This will not stop them ace, they will do it again tommorrow and the day after. Also, add to the fact leftist shits will lie and say this act was legal.

124 As Vic mentioned earlier it seems she was fired because she is an alcoholic. Posted by: steevy at March 27, 2012 08:13 PM (7W3wI) I don't think she was fired, but her contract ran out and she and FOX both realized she needed a break to deal with her problem. And I think she is doing better now

125 This is why we should push the Khan Academy. It's superb, and takes universities out of the educational picture. The more we can do this, the better. Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 27, 2012 08:00 PM (kBe37) Word.

126 Soccer? Gayer than recumbent bicyclists.

127 Pimp-Slaps Out-of-Control EPA
It's ok as long- as it's with an open hand.

128 Federal judge dismisses charges against Hutaree Militia today too.

129 Off damned sock!

130 119 Is "pimp-slap" harder than "bitch-slap"? Same target, I understand, but do pimps hit harder than regular wife-beaters? Is it a professional thing?

Pimp-slap is when you are trying to settle differences in a professional, diplomatic manner.  Bitch-slap is when those negotiations fail.

But, I'm just making shit up.

131 68 In other environmental news, my bamboo is coming in again.
My son mowed down one of his mother's plants she nursed thru the winter today. Somehow, it's all my fault.

132 122 coolczech sorry but you didn't exactly patent your gag Posted by: chemjeff on the phone in SD at March 27, 2012 08:14 PM (5F1NW) Good point. And since amicus briefs are a g-string, we at least have a clear picture of exactly where Dave "filed" them, IYKWIM. Pretty cheeky of him...

133

Meh, they're infested with watermelons.

It is good to see them get bitch slapped like that though.

"It's a start."

134 I don't think she was fired, but her contract ran out and she and FOX both realized she needed a break to deal with her problem. And I think she is doing better now

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 27, 2012 08:15 PM (eCnLg)

 

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Yeah.  I've heard she's just drinking beer and smoking pot now.

135 Somehow, it's all my fault. Posted by: Bildo at March 27, 2012 08:17 PM (eToum) It's always my fault. After 28 years it's always my fault

136 That is the full extent of the EPA’s authority in the SIP-approval process because that is all the authority that the CAA confers. See La. Pub. Serv. Comm’n v. FCC, 476 U.S. 355, 374 (1986) (“[A]n agency literally has no power to act . . . unless and until Congress confers power upon it.”). Epic judicial slap down.

137 119 Is "pimp-slap" harder than "bitch-slap"? Same target, I understand, but do pimps hit harder than regular wife-beaters? Is it a professional thing?

Presumably, pimps would not want to mess up their income stream, so a pimp slap would be with the back of the hand and not break skin.  Designed for pain and humiliation, but not physical damage.

138 13668
In other environmental news, my bamboo is coming in again.
My son mowed down one of his mother's plants she nursed thru the winter today. Somehow, it's all my fault.
Posted by: Bildo Kill it now, its an invasive weed that can't be stopper, like watermelons in the EPA... /just sayin'

139 My son mowed down one of his mother's plants she nursed thru the winter today. Somehow, it's all my fault.

The stuff in my backyard kept coming back, even with regular mowing. Damn stuff must be related to the mint family.

140 Somehow, it's all my fault. .. well it did all start with the lack of free birth control...

141 After 28 years it's always my fault

Tell me about it.

142

yeah I am with Jay, imperial units suck

 

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone in SD at March 27, 2012 08:06 PM (5F1NW)

 

You might wonder how I knew about the ACS meeting ...

143 Now, Texas, would you please kick the DoEd's ass into an EPA Approved swamp just to watch it die?

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at March 27, 2012 07:40 PM (eHIJJ)

 

We are also in a war with Zero over defunding Planned Parenthood. How about some of y'all pick up the slack.

144 How far south do you have to be for bamboo to grow?  What Zone are you?

145 jay are you here in SD too?

146 Thanks, folks.  You brought me some proper slapping knowledge.

147

Yeah. I've heard she's just drinking beer and smoking pot now.

 

 

 

Posted by: Soona

 

 

 

 

Peaches? 

148 My son mowed down one of his mother's plants she nursed thru the winter today. Somehow, it's all my fault.

just plant some kudzu...it's ever so delicate, like an orchid!

149

Soccer? Gayer than recumbent bicyclists.

 

Gayer than figure skating.

150 Peaches is Laurie Dhue????? whoa

151 150 How far south do you have to be for bamboo to grow? What Zone are you? Posted by: mama winger at March 27, 2012 08:20 PM (P6QsQ) The wife reports bamboo grows in Korea, so it should be able to grow in New England.

152

Well, that was special...

Is formatting that horked up? My spelling is teh suxxors but thats nothing new. Damn that fucktard that Pixy can't kill off.

153 Let's just stick to telling that soccer is gay. That pisses them off enough. Mixing Imperial and metric units just makes for messy calculations. Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 27, 2012 08:03 PM (kBe37) Part of the problem is inertia, of course, but part of the problem is that Imperial units were the child of practicality, metric the child of a desire for uniformity and an honestly arbitrary standard. There are many tasks for which the Imperial units juts *seem* to make more sense to people - liquid gallons, inches and feet (obviously meters and yards make no never mind), and pounds of weight. Obviously, people *can* measure paper sizes in centimeters and meat in kilograms. But even in "conquered" Britain people fought back against that kind of thing so much you can still turn on TV and see people talking in miles per hour. Admittedly, the Imperial system is a wobbly goblin. But it's a friendly, familiar wobbly goblin. Lots of people not ready to give that up for Aibo.

154

jay are you here in SD too?

 

Yep, but not at the ACS meeting, although I went there today to meet an old friend. I'm kinda past the ACS meeting stage.

155 How far south do you have to be for bamboo to grow? What Zone are you?

Posted by: mama winger at March 27, 2012 08:20 PM (P6QsQ)



I'm in Connecticut and we have bamboo.  Had a ton of it at our last house and my husband transplanted some of it at this house.  That was about 4 1/2 years ago and it's going strong.

156 *clutches anything remotely approaching recognition of the delegation doctrine to my not so wee bosoms* Now that is quality benchslapping.

157 How far south do you have to be for bamboo to grow? What Zone are you?

Maryland, here.

158 The wife reports bamboo grows in Korea, so it should be able to grow in New England. Posted by: CoolCzech at March 27, 2012 08:23 PM


Really?  Wow.

159 157 Peaches is Laurie Dhue????? whoa Posted by: chemjeff on the phone in SD at March 27, 2012 08:23 PM (5F1NW) Damn, I just KNEW she's hot in real life!

160

Gayer than figure skating.

Suck on THIS!!

161 Bamboo in Maryland too?


Huh.  Whadya know.

162 Come to think of it, bamboo ought to grow pretty far north. Don't the pandas in the mountains of China live on the stuff?

163 Part of the problem is inertia, of course, but part of the problem is that Imperial units were the child of practicality, metric the child of a desire for uniformity and an honestly arbitrary standard.

And it's been a long time in the making.  The idiots in the French Revolution tried to push the Revolutionary Calendar on France (to do away with Christianity and really break the back of Western culture).  It had ten-day weeks.  Just because, "Fuck you!"

164 150 How far south do you have to be for bamboo to grow? It grows in my undies!

165 Come to think of it, bamboo ought to grow pretty far north.




I'll have to try planting some in my beer and cheese garden.

166 It's like Law is breaking out everywhere.   Is it an Omen?  I pray it is.

167 Certain varieties of bamboo will in very cold climates. I have friends who are over run with it in the Hudson Valley area in New York.

168 Come to think of it, bamboo ought to grow pretty far north. Don't the pandas in the mountains of China live on the stuff?

Posted by: Retread at March 27, 2012 08:25 PM (joSBv)


Asians use it for scaffolding when they're building buildings.  I've seen it up close.

169 I know that bamboo grows in the hills of Kentucky.  There are stands of it in the Red River Gorge.   It was actually pretty cool to walk through a little bamboo forest, and it's a great fire starter.

170 well I am in trouble now I had 3 beers with dinner and now my poster session is in 1/2 hr and they were three good beers too urgh

171 Time for Congress to withhold operating funds from the fascists in the EPA.

172

I'll have to try planting some in my beer and cheese garden.

You can grow those things? I thought they came from a store.

173 Suck on THIS!!

Posted by: Tanya Harding at March 27, 2012 08:24 PM (O6q63)

 

Pass.

174 once you plant it, you can't get rid of it.

It depends.  The new bamboo shoots are very fragile.  Bumping your toe against them will kill them, so regular mowing easily deals with runners.  If the lot is left unattended though, look out.

Mrs928 is a bamboo maven.

175 Well huh.  Apparently there is Zone 4 bamboo.  I feel so much smarter now than I did 15 minutes ago.

176 I'll have to try planting some in my beer and cheese garden.

You can grow those things? I thought they came from a store.

Heh. You'll have morons planting beer bottles now.

177 178 well I am in trouble now
I had 3 beers with dinner and now my poster session is in 1/2 hr
and they were three good beers too
urgh

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone in SD at March 27, 2012 08:28 PM (5F1NW)

 

You'll probably do great.  What's the topic?

178

Mrs928 is a bamboo maven.

 

 

 

 

Posted by: toby928©

 

 

 

 

Does the play a lot of Mah-jong too?

179 153 Yeah. I've heard she's just drinking beer and smoking pot now. Laurie Dhue? That's too bad, but does she at least still do, you know... BJ's?

180

The current Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency is Lisa P. Jackson, who was designated by President Barack Obama on December 15, 2008, and confirmed by unaninimous consent on January 22, 2009 by the United States Senate.

You're welcome.

Posted by:The Senate Republicans that are totally gonna control Mitt.  Honest.

181

Michigan U.S. Senate: Stabenow 45% Hoekstra 40%

Ladies and gentlemen...it appears the bottom is beginning to drop out of the Democratic Senate.

Stabenow enjoyed 15-18 pt leads over Hoekstra who had a horrible ad earlier this year. That has imploded.

Sherrod Brown had double-digit leads over Josh Mandel. That has crashed to a tie.

Caskill has lost minor leads and now trails all Rs by 5-10 points.

Bill Nelson trails Connie Mack in Florida.

Allen is tied with Kaine in Virginia.

Kerrey is a lost cause in Nebraska.

Berg looks easy to take North Dakota.

Tester keeps slipping in Montana.

Baldwin looks like she will be blown out by Tommy "Pumpkinhead" Thompson in Wisconsin

and on.

and on.

and on.

The Democrats may lose a third of their 2012 seats...or more.

 

I am beginning to get excited.

182 You'll probably do great. What's the topic? .. computational

183

metric the child of a desire for uniformity and an honestly arbitrary standard 

 

 

Yep, but more importantly, it's also a rational system. No 16s, 32s, or 5280s, or any of that crap. Scientists love it because makes calculations involving heat, motion, and electricity easy.

184 I'll have to try planting some in my beer and cheese garden.

You can grow those things? I thought they came from a store. Posted by: fluffy at March 27, 2012 08:28 PM



They get shipped to your store from our farms in Wisconsin.  Our lower forty is planted exclusively in New Glarus Spotted Cow.  Front yard is full of Muenster.

185 Does the play a lot of Mah-jong too?

Heh.  She's Georgia cracker so Scrabble is her game.  Seriously though, I don't even know how many varies of bamboo we have on the Casa928 estate.  At least a dozen that I can think of.  Clumpers, runners, smooth, timber, all with weird latin names that pretty much translate to "bamboo".

186

Sherrrod Brown is a corrupt imbecile.

 

 

He is running commercials on green energy and windmills, being the path back to industrial prosperity for Ohio.   It's his "plan".

 

D'oh!

187 I am beginning to get excited.

Posted by: CAC at March 27, 2012 08:31 PM (Zhkq7)

 

They are due for a reckoning...I sure hope you're right.

188
They get shipped to your store from our farms in Wisconsin. Our lower forty is planted exclusively in New Glarus Spotted Cow. Front yard is full of Muenster.


Up north, near Ashland, there's a strain of Leinenkugel's growing in the wild that's outta this world.

189

They get shipped to your store from our farms in Wisconsin. Our lower forty is planted exclusively in New Glarus Spotted Cow. Front yard is full of Muenster.

Serially, though, what is a beer and cheese garden?

190 I am banned from even walking in about half the yard area because the bamboo is shooting right now.

191

I had 3 beers with dinner and now my poster session is in 1/2 hr and they were three good beers too urgh

 

Poster session? No problem. You'll be fine.

192 163 *clutches anything remotely approaching recognition of the delegation doctrine to my not so wee bosoms*

Now that is quality benchslapping.

Posted by: alexthechick at March 27, 2012 08:23 PM (Gk3SS)

 

Well just call me, Recognition of the Delegation Doctrine then

193 Yep, but more importantly, it's also a rational system. No 16s, 32s, or 5280s, or any of that crap. Scientists love it because makes calculations involving heat, motion, and electricity easy.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 27, 2012 08:32 PM (kBe37)

It makes some computations easier but it makes most more difficult because the units aren't chosen to fit the situations.  Things do not always increase in magnitudes of 10.  Most things don't.  The natural log base isn't 10, after all.  That's just the number that we picked to count in, given our hands and feet.   Base 10 is no more special than Base 7.  10 isn't even a prime!

194

I am beginning to get excited.
Posted by: CAC at March 27, 2012 08:31 PM (Zhkq7)

Did the pollsters include that ever-critical dead person demographic?

195 Evening folks. How is everyone this fine evening?

196 200 They get shipped to your store from our farms in Wisconsin. Our lower forty is planted exclusively in New Glarus Spotted Cow. Front yard is full of Muenster. Serially, though, what is a beer and cheese garden? Posted by: fluffy at March 27, 2012 08:35 PM (O6q63) Are you cereal? It's the carpet in Ace's pad after an all night bender.

197 Serially, though, what is a beer and cheese garden? Posted by: fluffy at March 27, 2012 08:35 PM


You double dig a trench, fill it with composted cow manure, and plant alternating rows of Miller Light and Mild Cheddar.  Come fall, you harvest Old Style and  Aged Swiss.

198 Those bastards made me learn metric in the 3rd grade, said it was the next big thing. I want a refund. Besides when was the last time you heard something expressed in decimeters ?

199 SOS, your squeeze was around here earlier.

200 I am banned from even walking in about half the yard area because the bamboo is shooting right now.

I did not know Viet Cong bamboo still existed.

201

It makes some computations easier but it makes most more difficult because the units aren't chosen to fit the situations.

 

What units are you talking about in this connection? Kilograms are 2.2 lbs., meters are 1.1 yards, liters are roughly a quart.

 

But for example, quick, what does a quart of water weigh? A liter of water weighs 1 kg. Easy. How much energy does it take to warm that water by one degree Centigrade? 1 Kcal. Nothing to it.

202

Posted by: Hummingbird at March 27, 2012 08:14 PM (ONsld)

...

Excellent Milady, carry on. 

203 Yep, but more importantly, it's also a rational system. No 16s, 32s, or 5280s, or any of that crap. Scientists love it because makes calculations involving heat, motion, and electricity easy. Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 27, 2012 08:32 PM (kBe37) AKA lazy and bad at math. Most measurement systems in history are based on what was being measured (why they're inconsistent). Consistency is super serial important because without it nothing fits when you make it. Imperial was basically a hand-me-down consistent system, which makes more or less sense depending on the nature of the given task. Also a margarine, but that's neither here nor there. The tasks in question are fairly common so it makes sense a lot of the time. Metric is arbitrary in the sense that it wasn't designed around a particular task, so it makes sense randomly as relates to common tasks. I guess what I'm relating this to is what some people call the "human frame of reference" for measurements. Also, for some natural systems halving (not 1/16 but 1/2 of 1/2 of 1/2 of 1/2), base 6, etc. make sense. Imperial short distance measurements are based on ratios, which is useful, and not too hard if you have a sense of relationships between objects. People still use base 6 systems in science a lot, regarding time, angles etc. Not everything is base 10. TL;DR: Good luck with that. Long term we will probably have a system more like metric than Imperial. Probably. Manufacturing is already headed that way. Things will probably be converted to Imperial for packages etc. for a while, barring bureaucratic edicts like they had in Europe.

204

Note the total absence of Greg since the Senate # have turned rough for the Democrats.

205 "Those bastards made me learn metric in the 3rd grade, said it was the next big thing. " They've been pushing that bullshit for years. They taught us the metric system and claimed that no one would be using English measurements "10 years from now". That was over 30 years ago, and other than having to buy metric tools now and again I never use that shit for anything.

206 But for example, quick, what does a quart of water weigh? A liter of water weighs 1 kg. Easy. How much energy does it take to warm that water by one degree Centigrade? 1 Kcal. Nothing to it.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 27, 2012 08:42 PM (kBe37)

Remembering the constants is no more difficult than remembering the labels

207

The natural log base isn't 10, after all.

 

Good God, doing calculations in natural log units? Most people struggle with calculating the tip on a restaurant tab.

208 Geez, the Ewok-in-Chief is going Nelson at Trafalgar on Spike Lee on Twitter tonight.

209 Those bastards made me learn metric in the 3rd grade, said it was the next big thing. "

They've been pushing that bullshit for years. They taught us the metric system and claimed that no one would be using English measurements "10 years from now".

That was over 30 years ago, and other than having to buy metric tools now and again I never use that shit for anything.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at March 27, 2012 08:43 PM (R5yLq)

 

Same here... over 30 years ago... but shit it will take ten years to get that oil out of the ground... they pissed that time away

210 Did the pollsters include that ever-critical dead person demographic?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 27, 2012 08:38 PM (kBe37)

Problem is the Republicans control (and now WATCH) the returns in Wisconsin, North Dakota, Nebraska, Florida, Ohio, and Michigan.

Montana won't have any (not enough people to have enough dead people), and Missouri is looking too obvious.

 

I stopped caring about the dead vote when Kirk still won in Illinois, Toomey won in Pennsylvania, and Johnson won in Wisconsin. Chicago, Philly, and Madison were neutralized by an ACTIVE GOP, at least for those races.

211 Note the total absence of Greg since the Senate # have turned rough for the Democrats.

Aww.

212

Liking some activist courtin' right about now, are we?  How 'bout some judicial activatin' on the czars, oh mighty robed ones?  I swear I heard a Fox reporterette on the radio today refer to some Cuban commie who threw a wet rag on the Pope's words as "Castro's Economic Czar".  C'mon, your honors....you have to be more than a little pissed off by the czar bullshit.  Take. Them.  DOWN.

 

 

213 The natural log base isn't 10, after all.

Good God, doing calculations in natural log units? Most peoplestruggle withcalculating the tip on a restaurant tab.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 27, 2012 08:44 PM (kBe37)

 

Hey... off my lawn

214 Since I totally missed the electric plant thread earlier, I'll mention here that they are closing the local electric plant, which will cost over 2 million to the school system, not to mention the local economy. However, it is being celebrated because the locals have swallowed the line that the plant is giving kids diseases, and so we are choosing "health over money."

215

Dear Math,

Please solve your own problems I am not a therapist.

216 Good God, doing calculations in natural log units? Most peoplestruggle withcalculating the tip on a restaurant tab.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 27, 2012 08:44 PM (kBe37)

No, no.  I was expressing the fact that the natural exponent of growth is "e", the natural log base, not 10.

217

#215 

I'm still here.  I just don't type as fast as Stuck does so it takes me a little longer to reply. 

#209

Stuck!  I love the laptop.  Thank you so much for loaning it too me, that was very sweet. 

218 If you really want to help this election season, contact your local GOP office and ask to volunteer to become a poll watcher on election day.  It takes very little in the way of training, and just having the presence of Republicans on site at each polling place really can make a difference.  Bring a lunch.  Make a day of it.

219

Remembering the constants is no more difficult than remembering the labels

 

Maybe, but consider a calculation such as figuring out how long an electric immersion heater with 2 K ohm resistance will take to heat 50 lbs. of water from 70 to 105 degree Fahrenheit with an applied voltage of 120 V. Ahhhhh!!

220 Most peoplestruggle withcalculating the tip on a restaurant tab.

Douglas Adams based space propulsion on this very concept.

221

No, no. I was expressing the fact that the natural exponent of growth is "e", the natural log base, not 10.

 

I know. I was kidding.

222 196
Sherrrod Brown is a corrupt imbecile.

He is running commercials on green energy and windmills, being the path back to industrial prosperity for Ohio. It's his "plan".

I'll believe in green energy when they figure out a way to use all this f*cking kudzu.

223 "Stuck! I love the laptop.Thank you so much for loaning it too me,that was very sweet." My pleasure dear. And I didn't loan it to you, I gave it to you. It's just an old one I had in the basement, no point in having it just sit there and collect dust if you can get some use out of it.

224

Sherrod Brown had double-digit leads over Josh Mandel. That has crashed to a tie.

 

Posted by: CAC at March 27, 2012 08:31 PM (Zhkq7)

 

No wonder Brown has been showing up more often for interviews on the the local conservative AM station and convincing no one.

 

Good to hear!

 

225 Ah yes.  The EPA:  Ensuring domestic Tranquility since 12-2-70.

226 Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 27, 2012 08:48 PM (kBe37)

No one ever stopped scientists from using any metric system they wanted.  It was when they decided we had to change all of society and every sign in the land and all manner of device that it really started to be more than an annoyance.  Once the cost of that started making itself known people quieted down, but the whole metricization thing was really just another blind lefty drive to change America ... just because.

227

#239

Stuck!  No.  I couldn't. This is too nice of a laptop.  I will get it back to you this weekend.

228 Posted by: Hummingbird at March 27, 2012 08:48 PM (ONsld) Didn't get to say "welcome" the other day, so "welcome..." to the nuthouse.

229 Hi everyone!

Posted by: Hummingbird at March 27, 2012 07:57 PM (ONsld)

Hey there Hummingbird!  My husband was just asking me about SOS updates.  I told him you had been in to visit a couple of times.

We send out best.  Hope all is well.

230 poster session is open bar!! woohoo

231 Ogabe's (E)uropean (P)ansy (A)sses kicked to the curb, eh?  Sweet.

232 241 Ah yes. The EPA: Ensuring domestic Tranquility since 12-2-70. Posted by: Fritz at March 27, 2012 08:53 PM (KWdVT) And to think, a Republican president gave us this monstrosity.

233 246 poster session is open bar!!
woohoo

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone in SD at March 27, 2012 08:55 PM (5F1NW)

 

If you deliver your talk in character as Kenny Powers and provide video evidence, I swear in front of all these people I will send you fifty bucks.  Drink up!

234

Just delivered dinner to the firefighters, here's what's on the wall at the station:

 

The Firefighter's Prayer

When I am called to duty, God, whenever flames may rage;

Give me strength to save some life, whatever be its age.

Help me embrace a little child before it is too late

Or save an older person from the horror of that fate.

Enable me to be alert and hear the weakest shout,

And quickly and efficiently to put the fire out.

I want to fill my calling and to give the best in me,

To guard my every neighbor and protect his property.

And if, according to my fate, I am to lose my life;

Please bless with your protecting hand,

My children and my wife

Author Unknown

...

Kinda gets you right 'there' don't it.

235

#244

Thanks  Merovign.  Everyone here has been super nice.  A couple of people in sort of a creepy stalker sort of way   I'm kidding of course.

#245

Well I'm having a hard time getting him to slow down and give his hands a chance to heal.  I'm arguing with him about it on the phone right now.  I'm also arguing with him about keeping this laptop.  He can be so stubborn!

 

236

It was when they decided we had to change all of society and every sign in the land and all manner of device that it really started to be more than an annoyance.

 

Actually, that was an annoyance to me, too. I was kidding a bit above. Although I do prefer the metric system for scientific calculations, and have used it all my life, I didn't (and still don't) like forcing everyone else to change. It's kinda like my attitude toward smoking; I don't care for it, but others can do what they want.

237

246poster session is open bar!!
woohoo

 

You're a trendsetter!

 

Toldja you'd be fine.

238

And to think, a Republican president gave us this monstrosity.

 

 

Posted by: CoolCzech

 

 

 

 

 

 

In the beginning, there was good reason and purpose to it.  When it was run by an administrator that had sense and understood the limitations of the agency, it wasn't bad.

 

  But as every bureaucracy eventually succumbs to Pournelle's Iron Law of Bureaucracy, it is has become tyrannical.  The have been empowered by so many "titles" and "mandates" by Congress shirking their oversight (because Congress is shiftless and lazy by nature), the EPA has become a bureaucratic monster.  And Lisa Jackson is just the kind of administrator to use every inch of authority that the Congress has given them, and then some.

 

To quote my neighbor that works for AEP: "She's a bitch!"

239

the whole metricization thing was really just another blind lefty drive to change America ... just because.

 

Yeah, it was. Metrification was kinda the HIGH. SPEED. RAIL. of its day. We had to use it; what would the Europeans think if we didn't?

 

Ironically, the biggest force toward metrification now is the military.

240

The natural log base isn't 10, after all. That's just the number that we picked to count in, given our hands and feet.

 

So how come guys don't count in base 21?

241

Kinda gets you right 'there' don't it.

 

Posted by: Meremortal at March 27, 2012 08:58 PM (Usk3+)

 

 

I'm familiar with that one. Dad just retired after 26 years with Columbus Fire. He's told me stories that I wish I've never heard and will never repeat.

242 "He can be so stubborn! " I prefer the term "set in my ways". Lol

243 246 poster session is open bar!!

I guess you aren't at the MRS.  Last one I attended they charged $8 for a small glass of really poor wine at the poster, and beer was $5-6.  Why don't I get to go to the high roller conferences?

244 Mind you, you should be careful with Khan Academy. I'm listening to a doctor right now who seems to think that Statins can prevent cancer. And forgets to mention the side effects. Also like every third narrator mentions wikilosia, which is not promising. Probably better for subjects such as math.

245

Posted by: ErikW at March 27, 2012 09:06 PM (YeRLF)

;;;;

Yes. Here in the mountains they tend to attend way more traffic accidents than fires. Some are horrific, of course. Death by fire, now that's horrific. 

246

Probably better for subjects such as math.

 

That's what I use it for, and it's great.

247 The thing about metrication that always bothered me was the kilometers.  Maybe using millimeters and liters vaguely made sense, since we import and export products but, we don't export or import roads.

And welcome to hummingbird.  Enjoy yourself, but guard your cornhole, buddy.

248

Forrets Guth, from the Band of Brothers, wore a hoodie into combat in Europe, way back in '44.  Those men never cease to amaze me.

249 WAM:" We Ain't Metric." Fu*k the rest of the world. Besides converting inches to centimeters gives you STEM types something to do while the rest of us are entertaining the wimminz ... in inches

250 Up north, near Ashland, there's a strain of Leinenkugel's growing in the wild that's outta this world.

Posted by: model_1066 at March 27, 2012 08:35 PM (PWwbk)

Ahh, yes, the beer from Big Eddie Springs. You do know who Big Eddie is don't you?  Look very closely at the label on a bottle of Leinenkugels.  See what Big Eddie is doing on that label?   LOL!

251

Choose one:

 

1. "Hey baby, I got six inches."

 

2. "Hey baby, I got 15 centimeters."

252

Posted by: Meremortal at March 27, 2012 09:09 PM (Usk3+)

 

Yep! I hold firefighters in the same high regard as police officers and soldiers.

253

Posted by: ErikW at March 27, 2012 08:53 PM (YeRLF)

 

Yeah, I remember when Snarlin' Arlen kept running to Rush Limbaugh right before the end. It was almost painful to hear.

254

"Hey baby, I got 15 centimeters."

 

"Ewwww gross!  What, are you 5 years old? I don't want to see your bug collection!" 

255 Remember the EPA!

256
2. "Hey baby, I got 15 centimeters."

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 27, 2012 09:20 PM (kBe37)

Sounds gay.

That's okay, "Hey baby, I've got 150 millimeters," sounds gay AND pathetic.

257

That's okay, "Hey baby, I've got 150 millimeters," sounds gay AND pathetic.

 

Yeah, it does. Not as gay as "Hey baby, I've got 150 millimeters, more than any of the other guys on my soccer team," but gay enough.

258 what happened to SoS 's hands? what did I miss?

259

"Yeah, it does. Not as gay as "Hey baby, I've got 150 millimeters, more than any of the other guys on my soccer team," but gay enough."

No....not gay enough.  Try, "Hey baby, I've got 150 millimeters, more than any of the other guys in my bicycle club."

There, that should get the flames crackling.

 

 

260

"what happened to SoS 's hands? what did I miss?"

 

He tried to rescue this thread from a metric system inferno.

261 what happened to SoS 's hands?

Reduced to claws.  He was not master of his domain.

262
Civil engineering uses the foot and base ten. And I know there are various units of angular measurement (including a base 10 one), but I can't imagine anything replacing the base 6 system for it.

263

Looks like Hashem Nzinga, the asshat who put out the bounty on Zimmerman, is in jail in the Third World Shithole of Dekalb County, GA on weapons charges...with  $10,000 bail.    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

 

http://tinyurl.com/752kq86

264 StuckOnStupid: "My pleasure dear. And I didn't loan it to you, I gave it to you."

The way to a woman's heart is through technology, oil changes, and Rohypnol in no particular order. So, well played.

265 This ruling by the 5th Circuit shouldn't at all be surprising. Judge Elrod was a Bush 43 nominee. Judge Garza was a Bush 41 nominee. Judge Barksdale also was a Bush 41 nominee. Elections have consequences.

266 There is a lot to like about Judge Elrod. And the Fifth Circuit.

267 The EPA needs a house cleaning from top to bottom and should be de-funded by about 80% and then congress has to closely define its very limited role. Then I woke up.

268 The only way this stands would be based on that time tested legal doctrine known as "sancti fumat"

269 This would make a great ad for Perry on how to stay strong on principles and create jobs when he lays into Obama, oh wait ... I'm sure Mittens would have done the same thing in an alternate universe in which he had a spine.