September 11, 2012
— Ace Gripping.
At the fortieth floor, we started coming in contact with firemen. They were saying, "C'mon, down you go! Don't worry, it's safe below." Most of them were stone-faced. Looking back, there were some frightened firemen.When we got below the thirtieth floor, they started to bring down injured people from flights above. There was a guy with the back of his shirt burned off, a little burn on his shoulder. One woman had severe burns on her face.
We got down to the twentieth floor and a fireman said, "Does anyone know CPR?" I'm no longer certified, but I know it from college. That was ten years ago. You wouldn't want me on an EMT team, but if it comes down to saving somebody, I know how.
So me and this other guy volunteer. We helped this one heavy, older man who came down huffing and puffing, and we kept our eyes out for anyone else. "Do you need help? Do you need help?" Nobody needed help. The stairway became wide-open. It was time to go. The other guy took off in front of me. We were going pretty fast.
Have you ever been to the World Trade Center? There's a mezzanine level, then you go downstairs, which is subterranean, into this big mall. Our stairwell exited out onto that mezzanine level. At that point, I could look out across the plaza at 2 World Trade Center. That's when I realized the gravity of what had happened. I saw dead bodies everywhere, and none that I saw were intact. It was hard to tell how many. Fifty maybe? I scanned for a second and then focused on the head of a young woman with some meat on it. I remember my hand coming up in front of my face to block the sight. Then I took off. As I ran, people were coming out of another stairwell. I stopped and said, "Don't look outside! Don't look outside!" The windows were stained with blood. Someone who'd jumped had fallen very close to the building.
It felt like my head was going to blow up.
To this day people still say "It was like watching a movie."
And it was. For this reason: Because only in the movies do they make villains as psychopathically, nihilistically murderous and barbarous.
Large segments of our society still can't grasp that yes, monsters exist, and not just in the movies.
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Posted by: real joe at September 11, 2012 01:13 PM (Mea7K)
Posted by: Honey Badger the Dense Rethuglican Nazi Bastard at September 11, 2012 01:14 PM (GvYeG)
Posted by: joeindc44 will boo your chosen deity on TV some day too at September 11, 2012 01:14 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 11, 2012 01:14 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Yip at September 11, 2012 01:15 PM (Mrdk1)
Posted by: joeindc44 will boo your chosen deity on TV some day too at September 11, 2012 01:15 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone buffoon at September 11, 2012 01:15 PM (ULX6U)
As I said in the previous thread quoting Joel C. Rosenberg. American just do not believe in the concept of pure evil in the world.
Posted by: Vic at September 11, 2012 01:15 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2012 01:16 PM (+tqYo)
But they're always white.
Posted by: andycanuck at September 11, 2012 01:16 PM (vDl/w)
I know that a lot of the grizly details were kept from the public....out of reverence for the dead, and their loved ones.
But...
It has allowed the Leftists to minimize what happened.
And enabled them to downplay the Evil nature of those who did this.
Posted by: wheatie at September 11, 2012 01:16 PM (LdrIf)
Posted by: joeindc44 will boo your chosen deity on TV some day too at September 11, 2012 01:16 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: rabidfox at September 11, 2012 01:16 PM (tDU9Y)
Posted by: pep at September 11, 2012 01:17 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: joeindc44 will boo your chosen deity on TV some day too at September 11, 2012 01:17 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at September 11, 2012 01:18 PM (SDkq3)
Posted by: rabidfox at September 11, 2012 01:19 PM (tDU9Y)
I fail when it comes to terrorists- especially Militant Islam. I hate them with a simmering, seething hatred that I cannot adequately describe.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 11, 2012 01:19 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at September 11, 2012 01:20 PM (IlZPo)
It would be so nice if humanity carried with it the lessons learned from the past. But it seems we are doomed to make the same mistakes forever. I've said it before and I'll say it again, the Founding Fathers were wise beyond their years. Human nature is immutable and predictable.
Posted by: pep at September 11, 2012 01:20 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Robert at September 11, 2012 01:20 PM (WFZEf)
Posted by: Hawker Flyer at September 11, 2012 01:21 PM (2z0mM)
American Thinker had an article about the poor people in the upper floors who only came in to work like everyone else in the nation that day. Then having to make that horrible horrible decision whether to burn to death or jump to a 100+ floor death. Not much has been written about this poor people.
And there were many of them.
Posted by: Soona at September 11, 2012 01:21 PM (QcPo7)
Posted by: Mr Fever Head at September 11, 2012 01:21 PM (SzAZ7)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2012 01:21 PM (05RcU)
Posted by: rabidfox at September 11, 2012 01:21 PM (tDU9Y)
Posted by: joeindc44 will boo your chosen deity on TV some day too at September 11, 2012 01:21 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: Honey Badger the Dense Rethuglican Nazi Bastard at September 11, 2012 01:21 PM (GvYeG)
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 11, 2012 01:21 PM (XvHmy)
Well then, you're a fallen angel. (Seriously, how big a fool does Biden have to be to make this error, not just once, but repeatedly.)
Posted by: pep at September 11, 2012 01:22 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 11, 2012 01:22 PM (W2Z3C)
Posted by: maddogg at September 11, 2012 01:22 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Joe Biden (god love 'im) at September 11, 2012 01:22 PM (9Wbta)
I did venture into the comments on the embassy invasion, and while there were a few mollycoddlers there, most people were outraged and there was *gasp* sharp criticism of a certain current US leader's foreign policies.
I think the Egypt thing is going to hurt the JEF and the Chicago strike is baaad for him too.
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 11, 2012 01:22 PM (ccXZP)
As long as someone holds Islam to be the highest truth, whether or not they've ever drawn blood in it's name, is a danger to western civilization.
Why? Because they provide cover for those that do and they also provide the wellspring of zealots for the extremists to tap into.
Islam is not just a religion, it's a political system and it has one enduring goal for 1300 years; the Supremacy of Islam over the world.
If you or I or your kids have to die for that goal to be reached, Islam has no problem with that. In fact those that do commit murder and mayhem in the name of Islam and Allah are hailed heroes and then martyrs if they are killed.
ALL of those on those planes are considered Heroes and Martyrs by the adherents of Islam.
You can claim that there are moderate Islamists and I say that if they truly are:
1. They have to keep silent about it so their influence is nil.
2. They are apostate according to their own professed beliefs and thus are NON MUSLIMS in the eyes of their coreligionists.
3. They really have no religion. If they go to a mosque then they are living a lie and will be found out and attacked or punished for it.
One of the worst things that George Bush proclaimed that to this day hampers our efforts to combat these murderous savages is his line that; "Islam is a religion of peace".
Only if all fall under the sway of Islam and after Islam has murdered all the unfaithful will there be "peace" under Islam.
Posted by: Jcw46 at September 11, 2012 01:22 PM (Vh0f5)
UPDATE: Leon Panetta: When The President Does It, ItÂ’s Not Illegal.
--Glenn Reynolds
"You Lie"
Mr. Panetta, when Bill Clinton lied under oath committing perjury, it WAS illegal, remains illegal, and he was impeached (though not prosecuted thereafter). When the President commits illegal acts, that is the height of illegal, he being the Chief Executive obligated to uphold and adhere to the Constitution, to enforce the Law.
Loose lips don't simply sink ships.
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 11, 2012 01:23 PM (BAnPT)
Posted by: joeindc44 will boo your chosen deity on TV some day too at September 11, 2012 01:23 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: BurtTC at September 11, 2012 01:23 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Codec717 at September 11, 2012 01:23 PM (oMBj/)
The old lady dancing and handing candy to children. Pure evil.
Posted by: wooga at September 11, 2012 01:23 PM (vjyZP)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone jerky at September 11, 2012 01:23 PM (9Wbta)
Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 11, 2012 01:24 PM (W2Z3C)
I know. But there is also a difference in taking the necessary steps to defend one's self and one's way of life, and taking joy in hearing that a human being has died.
I don't like that part in me, but (God help me) I have no plans to change it, and the day the last devout* muslim dies is too far away from me.
*- The devout ones, by definition, are the militant ones. It's in the Koran. The ones who are "moderate" are, by definition, not devout.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 11, 2012 01:24 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: nickless at September 11, 2012 01:24 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Hawker Flyer at September 11, 2012 05:21 PM (2z0mM)
Fort Worth ARTCC
Posted by: Yip at September 11, 2012 01:24 PM (Mrdk1)
21....I fail when it comes to terrorists- especially Militant Islam. I hate them with a simmering, seething hatred that I cannot adequately describe.
What I feel towards them isn't hate, AllenG.
It's more like what I feel towards a rabid dog.
They are a threat that must be eliminated.
You can't 'reason'...with a rabid dog...you simply must put it down.
Posted by: wheatie at September 11, 2012 01:24 PM (LdrIf)
40 -
Panetta is talking about taking legal action against the Seal team member who wrote the book.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 11, 2012 01:25 PM (TOk1P)
Then again, I don't have to hate my enemies in order to vanquish them. Protecting those whom it is my duty to protect is sufficient motivation. So I guess that's technical compliance.
Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at September 11, 2012 01:25 PM (IlZPo)
Posted by: Big T Party at September 11, 2012 01:25 PM (EhUTA)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 11, 2012 01:25 PM (xo33Y)
The brother of one of my best friends from high school survived both the 1989 San Fran/Oakland earthquake AND working on the 65th floor of one of the Towers the morning of Sept 11. AND his wife, who worked in the other Tower, also survived.
It's one heck of a story: http://tinyurl.com/9xuttyn
Posted by: Marybeth at September 11, 2012 01:25 PM (Ks0w4)
Posted by: thunderb at September 11, 2012 01:25 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: cajun carrot at September 11, 2012 01:25 PM (UZQM8)
Psalm 121
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 11, 2012 01:25 PM (BAnPT)
Islam is coalescing and feeling strong. This will not end well.
Posted by: pep at September 11, 2012 01:26 PM (6TB1Z)
-Terry Jones film online supposedly caused fracas in Egypt
-US consulate in Libya now in flames.
-US has apologized to Egyptians for ... who knows what.
Obviously this all has no relation to the date.
Posted by: shibumi at September 11, 2012 01:26 PM (z63Tr)
Posted by: maddogg at September 11, 2012 01:27 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: joeindc44 will boo your chosen deity on TV some day too at September 11, 2012 01:27 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at September 11, 2012 01:27 PM (J6kXj)
LOL, my office filter said Esquire's website is blocked for "provocative attire."
Posted by: rockmom at September 11, 2012 01:28 PM (qE3AR)
...
Obama gifted the Middle East to the Muslim Brotherhood to benefit the Saudi totalitarian regime.
America's opponents see Obama as he is for what he is. American voters?
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 11, 2012 01:28 PM (BAnPT)
Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 11, 2012 01:28 PM (W2Z3C)
Posted by: Michael Corleone at September 11, 2012 01:28 PM (xo33Y)
Posted by: thunderb at September 11, 2012 01:29 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: andycanuck at September 11, 2012 01:29 PM (vDl/w)
Posted by: Big T Party at September 11, 2012 01:29 PM (EhUTA)
Posted by: rabidfox at September 11, 2012 01:29 PM (tDU9Y)
I had just moved to DC 2 days before, and started work for the gov't the day before. It was...I will never forget the faces of the Security People when I was in their office--a tiny tv was on, and another woman who was waiting to be fingerprinted and I were watching the first Tower on fire, and we thought it was a terrible accident. And then we saw the second plane hit. Security came in and said, "Get out, go home, right now." She and I got out before the mass exodus began from the buildings in DC--we didn't know at the time the Pentagon had been hit.
I will never forget that day.
Posted by: Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK at September 11, 2012 01:29 PM (7v5Ct)
Not to minimize the seriousness of what is happening, but remember that it was the hostage crisis, not stagflation, nor gross ineptitude in every sphere of government, that ultimately did in JC. Amazing how many parallels there are between then and now.
Posted by: pep at September 11, 2012 01:29 PM (6TB1Z)
Oops we apologized?What the fuck for?
Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 11, 2012 01:30 PM (W2Z3C)
Certainly that's what I should feel- what I want to feel: sadness at the cost of a human life, but happiness that a threat to me and those I love has been removed. It's what I believe I would feel about a more "traditional" military enemy. I know it's what I feel about murderers and other criminals executed by the justice system.
It's not what I feel about terrorists.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 11, 2012 01:30 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Y-not at September 11, 2012 01:31 PM (5H6zj)
39....One of the worst things that George Bush proclaimed that to this day hampers our efforts to combat these murderous savages is his line that; "Islam is a religion of peace".
I think he that...to avoid being accused of being on a 'Crusade' against all muslims.
We needed some muslim allies....and still do, unfortunately.
Posted by: wheatie at September 11, 2012 01:31 PM (LdrIf)
Posted by: thunderb at September 11, 2012 01:31 PM (Dnbau)
Just listened to a mother's (final) cell phone call to her family from the North Tower on 9/11 on Legal Insurrection.......I shouldn't have played it.
I've been in combat (Vietnam), but NOTHING in my experiences on the battle field come close to the all-consuming, WHITE HOT RAGE this wife's/mother's/daughter's/sister's/ friend's last message to her loved ones re-generated.......
When my family emigrated from England we lived in NYC for close to 10 years.. I've since moved to Chicago, but every time I returned to NYC, I was still startled by the 'gap' in Lower Manhattan's skyline......and the WHITE HOT RAGE would be re-ignited
About that young woman's video posted at Legal Insurrection? Where I previously said "I shouldn't have played it?" Truth to tell, I couldn't live with myself if I hadn't.............It's called verifying one's priorities in life.
Posted by: alwyr at September 11, 2012 01:31 PM (Oh5R1)
Posted by: Adam at September 11, 2012 01:32 PM (/YJYi)
Posted by: maddogg at September 11, 2012 01:32 PM (OlN4e)
They are a danger to be eradicated as long as they continue to believe they have a right to exterminate me or force me to believe in their God.
"Ye shall know them by their works."
Islam is a death cult.
Posted by: Jcw46 at September 11, 2012 01:33 PM (Vh0f5)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 11, 2012 01:33 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: joeindc44 will boo your chosen deity on TV some day too at September 11, 2012 01:34 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: fu52 at September 11, 2012 01:34 PM (NYXC6)
Posted by: thunderb at September 11, 2012 01:34 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: cajun carrot at September 11, 2012 01:35 PM (UZQM8)
Posted by: Optimizer at September 11, 2012 01:35 PM (As94z)
So pull up your top and refresh.
Posted by: Oschisms at September 11, 2012 01:35 PM (kiqXG)
Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 11, 2012 01:36 PM (W2Z3C)
Posted by: nickless at September 11, 2012 01:36 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 11, 2012 01:37 PM (GkwjL)
Posted by: thunderb at September 11, 2012 01:37 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Honey Badger the Dense Rethuglican Nazi Bastard at September 11, 2012 01:38 PM (GvYeG)
Posted by: Y-not at September 11, 2012 01:38 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: thunderb at September 11, 2012 01:38 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2012 01:38 PM (05RcU)
95The best thing we could do to fight terrorism is drive oil down to $20/bbl and drive the entire Arab Muslim world back into a nomadic existence.
Agreed. They are much more at home squatting in the sand scratching their fleas and brewing tea anyway. A lot less trouble too, which they sure a hell ain't worth.
Posted by: maddogg at September 11, 2012 01:38 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: cynder ella at September 11, 2012 01:39 PM (oZfic)
NO. WE DON'T.
That's why I wrote what I wrote. Every Muslim country we've befriended in the interest of fighting the "Extremists" has stabbed us in the back.
They've helped murder our troops and citizens. Aided their fellow coreligionists in their pogroms and radicalization and even murdered the very troops that were training them to secure their country.
They deserve no mercy. They deserve no help. They will continue to stab us in the back (think this financial situation is just serendipitous?) until we get out of their reach.
It's why to my way of thinking; everyone who refuses to let us exploit our own energy resources is a traitor to this country and it's People.
Posted by: Jcw46 at September 11, 2012 01:39 PM (Vh0f5)
What happened on 9/11? I know we didn't get a raise on that day, that's for sure.
Posted by: Karen Lewiss at September 11, 2012 01:39 PM (YYyqq)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 11, 2012 01:39 PM (GkwjL)
Posted by: joeindc44 will boo your chosen deity on TV some day too at September 11, 2012 01:41 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: sven10077 at September 11, 2012 01:41 PM (MTTM9)
Posted by: cynder ella at September 11, 2012 01:42 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: JeffC at September 11, 2012 01:42 PM (A3tpD)
Posted by: rabidfox at September 11, 2012 01:42 PM (tDU9Y)
Posted by: joeindc44 will boo your chosen deity on TV some day too at September 11, 2012 01:42 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2012 01:43 PM (05RcU)
Plenty of good Christian GIs enjoy killing Jihadi Jim.
True!My brother was an artillery officer, he killed shitloads. Saved a shitload of GI lives in the process. I will attend his retirement in a couple of weeks.
Posted by: maddogg at September 11, 2012 01:44 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Honey Badger the Dense Rethuglican Nazi Bastard at September 11, 2012 01:44 PM (GvYeG)
Posted by: thunderb at September 11, 2012 01:44 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 11, 2012 01:45 PM (W2Z3C)
Posted by: sven10077 at September 11, 2012 01:45 PM (MTTM9)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2012 01:45 PM (05RcU)
Posted by: CSI Chris at September 11, 2012 01:45 PM (m7F8c)
I fail when it comes to terrorists- especially Militant Islam. I hate them with a simmering, seething hatred that I cannot adequately describe.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 11, 2012 05:19 PM (8y9MW)
I feel exactly the same. I wouldn't lose a minute's sleep to push the button to nuke every one of these 7th century cultist straight to hell - women and children included. I have no compassion for any of them.
Posted by: Havedash at September 11, 2012 01:45 PM (ToMJU)
Posted by: Adam at September 11, 2012 01:45 PM (/YJYi)
Posted by: cynder ella at September 11, 2012 01:47 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: runningrn at September 11, 2012 01:47 PM (WGmy2)
Posted by: Pork Eating Crusader at September 11, 2012 01:48 PM (XvHmy)
Posted by: runningrn at September 11, 2012 01:49 PM (WGmy2)
Posted by: Honey Badger the Dense Rethuglican Nazi Bastard at September 11, 2012 01:49 PM (GvYeG)
112 fuck em, just take the oil.
We don't really need to.
We have more Oil under the ground than they do.
What we need...is to remove all the restrictions on going after it.
Same with Natural Gas...we have shit-tons of that too.
Posted by: wheatie at September 11, 2012 01:49 PM (LdrIf)
Posted by: Ian S. at September 11, 2012 01:49 PM (rPA5/)
Posted by: fluffy at September 11, 2012 01:49 PM (4pSIn)
Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 11, 2012 01:49 PM (W2Z3C)
Posted by: runningrn at September 11, 2012 01:50 PM (WGmy2)
Nearly 3,000 demonstrators, most of them Islamist supporters of the Salafist movement or football fans, gathered on Tuesday at the embassy in protest over an amateur film deemed offensive to the Prophet Muhammad which was produced by expatriate members of Egypt's Christian minority resident in the US.
/found the link through the story at hotair.
Posted by: shibumi at September 11, 2012 01:50 PM (z63Tr)
It is merely a task that must be accomplished so that the guilty be put where they can no longer harm any more innocents, those innocents murdered or harmed by them may be avenged and those innocents still living may live out God's intent for them.
Posted by: Jcw46 at September 11, 2012 01:50 PM (Vh0f5)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 11, 2012 01:50 PM (GkwjL)
Posted by: cajun carrot at September 11, 2012 01:50 PM (UZQM8)
Yes.. and I meant that "movie" not move.
Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 11, 2012 01:50 PM (W2Z3C)
Posted by: nickless at September 11, 2012 01:50 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Ian S. at September 11, 2012 01:51 PM (rPA5/)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2012 01:51 PM (05RcU)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2012 01:52 PM (05RcU)
Posted by: thunderb at September 11, 2012 01:52 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 11, 2012 01:53 PM (XvHmy)
Posted by: thunderb at September 11, 2012 05:31 PM (Dnbau)
------------------------------------------
Oh, good. That's a relief.
Posted by: Soona at September 11, 2012 01:53 PM (QcPo7)
"Are they OK?"
How can you tell if they're OK? I mean, are they pandering to Islamists? If yes, well then, they're probably fine.
/waiting for King Hussein to proclaim this is a day of mourning for Muslims killed today....
Posted by: shibumi at September 11, 2012 01:53 PM (z63Tr)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 11, 2012 01:53 PM (GkwjL)
Posted by: nickless at September 11, 2012 01:53 PM (MMC8r)
FEMA Camp. We'll all be in the FEMA "re-education" Camps.
/geez, get your meme right. Aren't you listening to Coast to Coast regularly?
Posted by: shibumi at September 11, 2012 01:54 PM (z63Tr)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2012 01:54 PM (05RcU)
Our only saving grace is that Obama and his minions are fucking incompetents, and won't be able to build the camps for a very long time.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 11, 2012 01:54 PM (2b4yb)
Just for the record, let me take this opportunity today to say...
Mohammed was a child molesting son of a dog! To hell with him! If any goat screwing muslims are reading this, I hope you get to suck mohammed's puny little cock in hell immediately after realizing that it was an American who sent you on your way!
Posted by: Havedash at September 11, 2012 01:54 PM (ToMJU)
Very good Robot Devil.
Many do not know that mistranslation of the commandment. (probably some on purpose)
Posted by: Jcw46 at September 11, 2012 01:54 PM (Vh0f5)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 11, 2012 01:54 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at September 11, 2012 01:54 PM (J6kXj)
Why is this the ONLY blog site I post to where it appears to be impossible to cut/paste a comment?
I take the time to gather and write my thoughts off-line so I'm as coherent as I can be; I check my spelling/grammar to verify I've 'got things right', and then I paste my comment to this site.......and end up with a 'formatting epic fail'.
OBVIOUSLY, either I'm doing something wrong, or this site is different from most others (and I post at many: Hot Air, Malkin, RCP, Fox Nation, Red State, TownHall, Breitbart, etc.)
I'd appreciate your telling me what I'm doing wrong - instead of just pointing out the obvious formatting fail
Posted by: alwyr at September 11, 2012 01:55 PM (Oh5R1)
They are whores of course, and will moderate their vitriol in the interest of cheap natural gas, but anti-Semitism is deeply ingrained in them, and it will eventually burst forth.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 11, 2012 01:55 PM (2b4yb)
Posted by: Dang at September 11, 2012 01:56 PM (R18D0)
Posted by: Interested Party at September 11, 2012 01:56 PM (RE+1w)
Posted by: Ian S. at September 11, 2012 01:56 PM (rPA5/)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2012 05:54 PM (05RcU)
No.
Posted by: The Arab World at September 11, 2012 01:56 PM (2b4yb)
Posted by: small town girl at September 11, 2012 01:57 PM (Z2q1A)
Posted by: alwyr at September 11, 2012 05:55 PM (Oh5R1)
You know where you are right? Coherency, spelling, and grammar be damned!
Posted by: Adam at September 11, 2012 01:58 PM (/YJYi)
Ex 20:13 says "Thou Shall Not Kill" it is only a single word Strong's H7523 - ratsach (øÈöÇç. Which means murder.
There is a difference between killing someone and murdering someone.
Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 11, 2012 05:50 PM (GkwjL)
I learned that in ministry school a few years ago. There's a lot that we believe Scripture says that isn't so.
Posted by: ErikW at September 11, 2012 01:58 PM (BrzVu)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 11, 2012 01:58 PM (lEcZh)
Posted by: Ken at September 11, 2012 01:59 PM (ayCbQ)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 11, 2012 01:59 PM (lEcZh)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 11, 2012 01:59 PM (lEcZh)
In fact, if you're going to copy someone else's comment to quote, it's best to paste that in Notepad first also and then copy back to here.
It's those sort of quirky things that we've all grown to know and love.
NOT!
Posted by: Jcw46 at September 11, 2012 01:59 PM (Vh0f5)
The problem mostly occurs when you cut'n'paste from one of the Microsoft Office products (Word or Outlook, predominately). If you're composing there for spelling reasons, you'll want to cut from there, paste into a more basic text editor (notepad, for instance), then re-cut that and paste it here.
If you don't need the spell check, you can just write straight into the more basic text editor.
As a note, WordPad (if you're on a windows machine) is just a mini version of Word, and may (not sure if it will) have the same problem.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 11, 2012 02:00 PM (8y9MW)
157....OBVIOUSLY, either I'm doing something wrong, or this site is different from most others (and I post at many: Hot Air, Malkin, RCP, Fox Nation, Red State, TownHall, Breitbart, etc.)
Posted by: alwyr at September 11, 2012 05:55 PM (Oh5R1)
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We're not allowed to have nice things here.
Posted by: wheatie at September 11, 2012 02:00 PM (LdrIf)
Posted by: Interested Party at September 11, 2012 02:01 PM (RE+1w)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2012 02:01 PM (05RcU)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 11, 2012 02:01 PM (lEcZh)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 11, 2012 02:01 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone buffoon
; margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;" class="MsoNormal">She's got a career lined up as a sofa model...with Lazy Boy.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at September 11, 2012 02:02 PM (zuH2X)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2012 02:02 PM (05RcU)
Posted by: runningrn at September 11, 2012 02:02 PM (WGmy2)
Posted by: jimmytheclaw at September 11, 2012 02:02 PM (ir4P9)
Posted by: alwyr at September 11, 2012 02:03 PM (Oh5R1)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 11, 2012 02:04 PM (jucos)
Posted by: nickless at September 11, 2012 02:04 PM (MMC8r)
Last year on the 10th anniversary, I watched some of the amateur videos of 9/11 that are posted on YouTube. It was gut-wrenching. Seeing dozens of people standing at blown-out windows, 90 or more stories up, waving frantically for help. Some had stripped down to their underwear, because of the intense heat from the fires.
In some of the videos of the mezzanine levels, you can see the blood-streaked and spattered windows on the ground floor level where so many of the jumpers/fallers landed.
There's also a 911 audio recording of a guy named Cosgrove, trapped on one of the floors with some other people from nearby offices. He is scared and frustrated, but trying to keep it together. He mentions that he and the other men have young children at home, and are not ready to die today. The last sound on the tape is his blood-curdling scream as the tower collapses.
Awful.
Posted by: Bystander at September 11, 2012 02:05 PM (/sohm)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2012 02:05 PM (05RcU)
Posted by: runningrn at September 11, 2012 02:05 PM (WGmy2)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at September 11, 2012 02:06 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at September 11, 2012 02:06 PM (1GE+C)
Posted by: Interested Party at September 11, 2012 02:06 PM (RE+1w)
Science Fiction is...
A belief in the future.
A belief that technology is, like books, like art, like music, the accumulated wisdom of our species...and should be used.
A belief that the builders always outnumber the destroyers.
A belief that while clever apes can turn new inventions into weapons—wiser apes can turn weapons into improved plowshares.
A belief that thinking about the future is not escape from reality.
ItÂ’s intelligent planning.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 11, 2012 02:07 PM (FsGME)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2012 02:07 PM (05RcU)
Posted by: alwyr at September 11, 2012 02:07 PM (Oh5R1)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 11, 2012 02:08 PM (lEcZh)
OH, it happens with Firefox too. Not just I.E. (Internet Error)
Cut and paste from other comments here, articles on other sites, stuff composed as we noted on any word processor that formats the text.
What's really fun is that it may or may not show up in your comment box looking bad.
I always recommend that you click the icon to the far right in the menu bar above the commenting box (that's a less than and a greater than sign) that will open another little box where you can see the actual encoding that will get posted.
You can then remove the erroneous formatting (if you know you're html/formatting entities) and clean it all up.
Then return to the comment box and insert the spaces, Carriage returns and line feeds that YOU want to show up.
easey peasey.
Posted by: Jcw46 at September 11, 2012 02:08 PM (Vh0f5)
Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at September 11, 2012 02:08 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: AnnoyedInNuJoisey and ready to let slip the dogs of war-like mosquitos I see no need for muslims at September 11, 2012 02:08 PM (bUjAY)
Posted by: nickless at September 11, 2012 02:08 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Joe Biden at September 11, 2012 02:08 PM (GkwjL)
Here we are, 11 years later, watching another blood-thirsty mob of Islamist nutcases swarm into our embassy compound in Egypt and how do the geniuses in the Obama administration respond? With groveling apologies for the mob's "hurt feelings" over some stupid movie (made not by the U.S., but by some other Egyptians).
Insane.
Posted by: Bystander at September 11, 2012 02:08 PM (/sohm)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2012 02:09 PM (05RcU)
Posted by: runningrn at September 11, 2012 02:10 PM (WGmy2)
So, okay...I went to Drudge, to read about the stuff going on at the embassies.
Followed a link, which took me to an English-language islamic-news site...
Two of the Headlines there...were about America's "Low Key Anniversary of 9/11".
Wtf?
So...it's like they're saying we're hanging our heads, and hunkering down...while our embassies are being attacked.
[Link in my nic.]
Posted by: wheatie at September 11, 2012 02:10 PM (LdrIf)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 11, 2012 02:10 PM (FsGME)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 11, 2012 02:10 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at September 11, 2012 02:11 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: runningrn at September 11, 2012 02:11 PM (WGmy2)
I sat under the teaching of a Jewish rabbi for a year, a convert to Christianity in his later life. He loved to teach about the Jewish festivals, and their relationship to eschatology. He had a particular theory about the role that Rosh Hoshanah would play in the End Times. I won't go into it here, but short version is that every September, late in the month, I get a little anxious.
Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at September 11, 2012 02:12 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Jcw46 at September 11, 2012 02:13 PM (Vh0f5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 11, 2012 02:13 PM (bxiXv)
I was embarrassed when I saw my post come up...and kind of figured people would be upset.....Now I know better.
Of course that doesn't guarantee the contents of my future posts will improve, but at least they'll be formatted properly. (Siiiighhhh of relief!)
Posted by: alwyr at September 11, 2012 02:14 PM (Oh5R1)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 11, 2012 02:15 PM (lEcZh)
Posted by: wheatie at September 11, 2012 06:10 PM (LdrIf)
Okay, so evacuate the embassies and close all diplomatic relations.
I know, ain't gonna happen but that's what I'd do.
Posted by: ErikW at September 11, 2012 02:16 PM (BrzVu)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at September 11, 2012 02:17 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 11, 2012 02:18 PM (GkwjL)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 11, 2012 02:18 PM (FsGME)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 11, 2012 02:20 PM (FsGME)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 11, 2012 02:21 PM (lEcZh)
1073 Good news,
everyone! Barack Obama's dog-ass ugly wife is on the cover of Us Weekly...
My hubby and i were in the grocery store checkout line Sunday when we saw this, and turned the magazine cover backwards - like we do everytime we see either one of their mugs on anything in a store.
And as usual, we felt like we had done those who followed us a real favor.
Posted by: Marybeth at September 11, 2012 02:21 PM (Ks0w4)
Let it never be spoken in any man's presence who honors the fallen that the United States will ever forget, or ever forgive what happened on this day. Let it never be spoken that American might will ever for a moment fail to smite any enemy so foolish as to think they might scar our honored country.
Let it never be spoken, at any time, or in any place, that America hasn't the resolve to obliterate such a fool from God's Earth, should he take the terrible step toward harming our fellow men.
All these years on, ye fools who believed America weak and having no endurance for the long march, ye fools who reside in the firey pits of Hell, remember your brethren. For it is they who we kill this very night. As we slew YOU and your cohort in payment of your evil deeds. For let this man assure you, we remember. And we shall never forget.
~Chris L. (IdowhatIwant)
Posted by: IdowhatIwant at September 11, 2012 02:21 PM (B93TY)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 11, 2012 02:22 PM (lEcZh)
Posted by: Welshorne Skroat III at September 11, 2012 02:22 PM (p4etW)
Posted by: alwyr at September 11, 2012 02:23 PM (Oh5R1)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 11, 2012 02:24 PM (lEcZh)
Achmed to his iman, "You mean if I blow myself up I get free fruit in the afterlife? Ishn'allah! Frak this..."
Iman Ishmael, "Wait! I mistranslated. You get 72 doe eyed beautiful houris in Paradise."
Achmed looks around at the dessicated dried out blasted wreckage around him, "Okay sign me up!"
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 11, 2012 02:26 PM (FsGME)
"We're not allowed to have nice things here."
It's true. We aren't even allowed to have Nice Deb here.
Posted by: reason at September 11, 2012 02:27 PM (RQDhf)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 11, 2012 02:27 PM (lEcZh)
#223, what am I saying. I just described radical Islam.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 11, 2012 06:20 PM (FsGME)
I believe that it's all of Islam. There are no moderates and all should be viewed as a threat.
Posted by: ErikW at September 11, 2012 02:28 PM (BrzVu)
Posted by: small town girl at September 11, 2012 02:28 PM (HWakz)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 11, 2012 02:28 PM (lEcZh)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 11, 2012 02:30 PM (lEcZh)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 11, 2012 02:33 PM (lEcZh)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 11, 2012 02:33 PM (lEcZh)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 11, 2012 02:34 PM (FsGME)
Posted by: IdowhatIwant at September 11, 2012 02:34 PM (B93TY)
219 Posted by: wheatie at September 11, 2012 06:10 PM (LdrIf)
Okay, so evacuate the embassies and close all diplomatic relations.
I know, ain't gonna happen but that's what I'd do.
Posted by: ErikW at September 11, 2012 06:16 PM (BrzVu)
Works for me.
And kick their embassies out of here, too.
Posted by: wheatie at September 11, 2012 02:35 PM (LdrIf)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 11, 2012 02:35 PM (lEcZh)
Posted by: Welshorne Skroat III at September 11, 2012 02:36 PM (p4etW)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 11, 2012 02:36 PM (lEcZh)
Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2012 02:38 PM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 11, 2012 02:38 PM (lEcZh)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 11, 2012 02:39 PM (lEcZh)
http://tinyurl.com/36ma5v
True story: Tony Soprano met the "Loose Change" douche and called him a parasite.
Posted by: Billy Quizboy at September 11, 2012 02:41 PM (FEzSe)
Let it never be spoken, at any time, or in any place, that America hasn't the resolve to obliterate such a fool from God's Earth, should he take the terrible step toward harming our fellow men.
All these years on, ye fools who believed America weak and having no endurance for the long march, ye fools who reside in the firey pits of Hell, remember your brethren. For it is they who we kill this very night. As we slew YOU and your cohort in payment of your evil deeds. For let this man assure you, we remember. And we shall never forget.
~Chris L. (IdowhatIwant)
Posted by: IdowhatIwant at September 11, 2012 06:21 PM (B93TY)
Sorry, but I have to ask. Does this also apply to the enemies within?
Posted by: Havedash at September 11, 2012 02:42 PM (ToMJU)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 11, 2012 02:43 PM (lEcZh)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 11, 2012 02:44 PM (FsGME)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 11, 2012 02:45 PM (lEcZh)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 11, 2012 02:46 PM (lEcZh)
Posted by: Welshorne Skroat III at September 11, 2012 02:47 PM (p4etW)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 11, 2012 02:49 PM (lEcZh)
39
Jew46, very well-stated. I'd quibble only with one thing:
"Only if all fall under the sway of Islam and after Islam has murdered all the unfaithful will there be "peace" under Islam."
There wouldn't be peace under Islam even then, they would then turn on each other. Look how Shia and Sunni kill each other right now. Islam is an insatiable death cult. It must be extinguished.
Posted by: JPS at September 11, 2012 02:51 PM (wS6Sf)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 11, 2012 02:54 PM (lEcZh)
NEVER FORGET, NEVER FORGIVE.
Posted by: A Brother at September 11, 2012 02:55 PM (7WuRp)
Actually the Qu'ran was written in Aramaic.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 11, 2012 06:44 PM (FsGME)
I think the last few chapters were written in Toledo / Milwaukeeish.
That's some difficult shit to understand.
Posted by: ErikW at September 11, 2012 03:09 PM (BrzVu)
Posted by: Welshorne Skroat III at September 11, 2012 03:13 PM (3xB0f)
Posted by: AnnoyedInNuJoisey at September 11, 2012 03:14 PM (bUjAY)
"95The best thing we could do to fight terrorism is drive oil down to $20/bbl and drive the entire Arab Muslim world back into a nomadic existence"
A good fiction, but that Jinn is out of the bottle and we will remain vunerable. The human element, that of voilent persuation remains. The best thing would be to target each and every madrass, iman, ayatollah, sheik, believer and supporter and would be potentate until Islam as a religion is not even whispered as a viable system.
Posted by: meleager at September 11, 2012 04:12 PM (SdZ0K)
Posted by: and irresolute at September 11, 2012 05:17 PM (Q492A)
I had no idea what a vast gulf there is between the celluloid and the REAL thing.
But I saw it in person, not on TV.
Combat veterans are right: if you weren't there, you can only imagine, and that feebly -- the reality is a thousand times worse and more shocking. (I say this not to diss anyone who wasn't an eyewitness; just reporting how it was.)
Posted by: beverly at September 11, 2012 06:21 PM (OcPP/)
Posted by: beverly at September 11, 2012 06:22 PM (OcPP/)
Three years later my fiance and I were married on 9/11. After hunting around for a place/day to plan our wedding and thinking about it, we realised that getting married on 9/11 celebrated life, America, freedom... all the things that those terrorists hated, so that's what we did. We had a lovely ceremony and a moment of silence and I think about the good and the bad of that date every year. I think of it as honouring the memory of those who never got to see their families again by saying to the Islamofascists - 'You don't own this fucking day, assholes.'
Posted by: Linlithgow at September 12, 2012 01:40 AM (Gim9y)
Posted by: Jay Bee at September 13, 2012 05:20 PM (Xwgt3)
Posted by: Jay Bee at September 13, 2012 05:21 PM (Xwgt3)
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