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July 18, 2012

Flashback: Obama Didn't Support Clinton's Welfare Reform in 1999, Either
— Ace

The balls on this guy.

Via @adamsbaldwin.

Posted by: Ace at 02:25 PM | Comments (90)
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1 First

Posted by: Chicago Voter at July 18, 2012 02:27 PM (qZb8X)

2 Cliton didn't build that.

Posted by: Al at July 18, 2012 02:28 PM (MzQOZ)

3 Had he been weaned off the 'Present' button yet?

Posted by: t-bird at July 18, 2012 02:28 PM (FcR7P)

4 Present

Posted by: thunderb at July 18, 2012 02:30 PM (EE8kk)

5 When you're cruising on the dole you shouldn't be harassed to get a job. What kind of life is that?

Posted by: Barky O'Genius at July 18, 2012 02:31 PM (QKKT0)

The economy's improving or something.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at July 18, 2012 02:32 PM (XGZYX)

7 Well, duh. If you encourage people to work, they might find out they can support themselves without government help. We can't have that!

Posted by: Mindy at July 18, 2012 02:32 PM (CLIdB)

8 Finally, something on which he is consistent.

Unprecedented!!!

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at July 18, 2012 02:34 PM (BvTwT)

9 Was I ever for it?

Posted by: Barry at July 18, 2012 02:34 PM (52LA9)

10 Why the hell was the audio cut there? Who knows what he said next? I doubt it was something that changed the meaning -- but just a couple seconds more and we'd know for sure.

NewsBusters does the same thing. Sheeesh.

Just a couple more seconds.

Am I the only one bothered by this?

Posted by: Hepcat at July 18, 2012 02:34 PM (frbyY)

11 3 Had he been weaned off the 'Present' button yet?

Posted by: t-bird at July 18, 2012 06:28 PM (FcR7P)

Nah this would be one of those things he wouldn't vote present on. You know just like that "Hey let's not throw babies in the broom closet" bill in Illinois. Its stuff like that where he takes a stand... facing the wrong direction.

Posted by: buzzion at July 18, 2012 02:34 PM (GULKT)

12 Oh yeah? Well I SUPPORTED Obamacare back in 2006 before it even existed. Take that.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at July 18, 2012 02:35 PM (XGZYX)

13 Eh. No surprise.

Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 18, 2012 02:35 PM (I2LwF)

Just a couple more seconds.

Am I the only one bothered by this?

Posted by: Hepcat at July 18, 2012 06:34 PM (frbyY)

Hannity does that shit all the time and it drives me nuts.

Posted by: ErikW at July 18, 2012 02:36 PM (cmhGp)

15 For the most eloquent president to grace the Oval Office, he sure has to a lot of explaining.

Please don't tell me he's not responsible for the creases on his trousers as well!

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 18, 2012 02:37 PM (mIoJ0)

16 As much as it irritates me that Clinton gets the credit for welfare reform and a balanced budget, I will at least give him credit for self preservation. I don't understand Obama's political suicide. Arrogance?

Posted by: Lauren at July 18, 2012 02:38 PM (wsGWu)

17 14 Posted by: ErikW at July 18, 2012 06:36 PM (cmhGp)
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Glad to hear it. I brought up the problem at NewsBusters a couple times and was accused of being a troll.

Posted by: Hepcat at July 18, 2012 02:38 PM (frbyY)

The USDA put out posters not to feed the animals, yet they put out radio and print adds to COME GET YOUR FOODSTAMPS.

Keep america wild damnit

Posted by: The Jackhole at July 18, 2012 02:39 PM (nTgAI)

19 Once a SCOAMF always a SCOAMF.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at July 18, 2012 02:39 PM (WItBr)

20 @HotlineJosh
New CBS/NYT poll: Romney 47, Obama 46.

Boom, muthafuckaz.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 18, 2012 02:39 PM (mIoJ0)

21 20 @HotlineJosh
New CBS/NYT poll: Romney 47, Obama 46.

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Swing states are what counts, unfortunately. Still, that's a good sign.

Posted by: Hepcat at July 18, 2012 02:41 PM (frbyY)

NYT headline

Poll Shows Economic Fears Undercutting Obama Support

Posted by: The Jackhole at July 18, 2012 02:42 PM (nTgAI)

23 Keep america wild damnit Oh, wait until Ogabe loses. The wilding will begin for sure. Or I should say, fo' shizzle.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at July 18, 2012 02:42 PM (GrQ6U)

NYT

"Despite the months-long onslaught of negative advertisements from Mr. Obama and his Democratic allies seeking to define Mr. Romney as out of touch with the middle class and representative of wealthy interests, there is little evidence in the poll of any substantial nationwide shift in attitudes about Mr. Romney."

Posted by: The Jackhole at July 18, 2012 02:43 PM (nTgAI)

25 Whats the D sampling +12? Not even NYT can put O ahead.

Posted by: some guy at July 18, 2012 02:44 PM (v1uZf)

26 This is actually a smart move on his part. By my understanding, if he could get all of the 8.2% of Americans that are unemployed on welfare and since there is no work requirement, they are no longer part of the work force and thus he will single handedly reduce the unemployment date to 0%!!!

Posted by: Jim Fifer at July 18, 2012 02:44 PM (TFjPU)

27 That's all fine, but my gas tank still sayin' E.

Posted by: Peggy Joseph at July 18, 2012 02:47 PM (QKKT0)

CBS

Meantime, three and a half months before election day, Republican enthusiasm about voting this year has shot up since Mitt Romney clinched the nomination in April, from 36 percent of Republicans saying they were more enthusiastic in March to 49 percent now.

President Obama was helped to election in 2008 by a wave of voter enthusiasm among Democrats, however this year, Democratic enthusiasm is down a bit since March. Twenty-seven percent of Democrats said they were more enthusiastic about voting this year than they were in past elections, compared to 30 percent four months ago. And 48 percent of Democrats say their enthusiasm this year is the same as past elections, compared to 39 percent who answered the same question in March.

Independent voters' enthusiasm is also up with 29 percent saying they're more enthusiastic now from 22 percent four months ago.

Overall, voters aren't as enthusiastic about this year's election as they were in 2008. Just 33 percent of all registered voters said they were more enthusiastic this year than they were for past elections, compared to 41 percent in March 2008.

As for the direction of the country, voters are growing increasingly more pessimistic, however.

Sixty-four percent of those polled think the country is on the wrong track, up from 62 percent in May.

Posted by: The Jackhole at July 18, 2012 02:48 PM (nTgAI)

29 I don't understand Obama's political suicide. Arrogance? Always bet on black.

Posted by: Wesley Snipes, Inmate #45327 at July 18, 2012 02:48 PM (GrQ6U)

30
He'll continue to have big balls until someone steps up to stop him.

Posted by: Wodeshed at July 18, 2012 02:48 PM (UuLBC)

31 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at July 18, 2012 02:48 PM (8y9MW)

32 This is actually a smart move on his part. By my understanding, if he could get all of the 8.2% of Americans that are unemployed on welfare and since there is no work requirement, they are no longer part of the work force and thus he will single handedly reduce the unemployment date to 0%!!!

Posted by: Jim Fifer at July 18, 2012 06:44 PM (TFjPU)

---------------------------------------------------

You may have something here. Seriously.

Posted by: Soona at July 18, 2012 02:51 PM (0D5so)

33 FYI: That shark vid site in the sidebar has a virus.

Posted by: Beefy Meatball at July 18, 2012 02:52 PM (mxnUd)

34 30
So basically, all the impuslive stupid kids are gonna be smoking their dubes and playing teh xbox instead of voting. Awesome.

This country might have a shot in Nov afterall.

Posted by: some guy at July 18, 2012 02:52 PM (v1uZf)

35 Yep...big balls AND a big stick...if you know what I mean...

Posted by: Slow Joe at July 18, 2012 02:53 PM (+z5LA)

36 Clinton didn't support "Clinton's" welfare reform, either. It was pushed on him by a Newt Gingrich congress by enough to override a veto and he damn well knew it, so he adopted it as his own. Gotta hand it to Bubba J, he was a consummate politician (that is not a compliment).

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at July 18, 2012 02:54 PM (yh0zB)

37 Beauty contest question is among RVs. Weighted to a D+6.

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at July 18, 2012 02:54 PM (BvTwT)

38 The one undisputed fact about Barry's intellect: he was not even a National Merit Semi-Finalist. I was that, and better, and I was a major league choomer and fuckup.

Posted by: toby928© at July 18, 2012 02:54 PM (QupBk)

39 crap, wrong thread.

Posted by: toby928© at July 18, 2012 02:55 PM (QupBk)

40 And my rent was due FOUR YEARS AGO.

And it's going to be due again on August 1st.

Posted by: Peggy Joseph at July 18, 2012 02:55 PM (MBmtt)

41 The sampling for the NYT/CBS poll was 32.6% D, 26.5% R after "weighting".

Also, it's a registered voters poll.

It explains the doubling down on taxes &

Posted by: AmishDude at July 18, 2012 02:56 PM (T0NGe)

Hey, Peggy, is it a bother to have a bunch of journalists asking you what you think about Obama this year?

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 18, 2012 02:58 PM (SUKHu)

43 In fact, welfare reform was entirely political from Clinton's end.

We all know he vetoed it twice. Gingrich, knowing his opposition, decided to ram it through as a partisan stunt a week or so before the convention to give Bob Dole a fantastic contrast to run on right as people started paying attention.

And that slick sonofabitch signed the legislation, leaving poor Bob Dole with nothing to really run on.

Posted by: The Q at July 18, 2012 02:59 PM (B/yDO)

44 Is it just me. That sure doesn't sound like the articulate negro we have in the White House. Sounds like a different person to me. Did Hussen get a new voice and accent?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at July 18, 2012 03:01 PM (Cydud)

Posted by: AmishDude at July 18, 2012 06:56 PM (T0NGe)

Soooo... 62.1% of the electorate are in one of the two parties? so 37.9% independent, nonaligned, or other partys?

Interesting weighting.....

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 18, 2012 03:01 PM (lZBBB)

46 FYI: That shark vid site in the sidebar has a virus. Posted by:Beefy Meatball

I scanned with McAffee and AVG scanners and didn't see a threat.

What was listed on your alert?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 18, 2012 03:01 PM (mIoJ0)

47 Peggy Joseph? Who's that?

Never heard of her!

Posted by: Journalists at July 18, 2012 03:02 PM (MBmtt)

48 Soooo... 62.1% of the electorate are in one of the two parties? so 37.9% independent, nonaligned, or other partys?

No. 59.1%.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 18, 2012 03:03 PM (T0NGe)

49 29 That's all fine, but my gas tank still sayin' E.

Posted by: Peggy Joseph at July 18, 2012 06:47 PM (QKKT0)

Peggy, you stupid bitch. Send us a FORWARDING address.

Where is your damn trailer now. We're look for ya.

Posted by: Injuin Blackfoot Barry, the one who eats dogs at July 18, 2012 03:03 PM (Cydud)

50 32 He'll continue to have big balls until someone steps up to stop him. Posted by: Wodeshed at July 18, 2012 06:48 PM (UuLBC) These are not the balls to die on.

Posted by: Crying Boner at July 18, 2012 03:04 PM (Xg8DJ)

51 FTSB: Rob Bluey: How to stop Harry ReidÂ’s "lame-duck looting sessionÂ” Someone assure me that Boehner is listening.

Posted by: toby928© crossposting because he can't tell one thread from another at July 18, 2012 03:05 PM (QupBk)

52 don't forget, at the 1996 Dem convention, Gephardt barked that after Clinton was reelected and the Dems took back Congress, they were going to correct what was wrong with the welfare reform act. And now Clinton holds this up as a shining example of bipartisanship at work. Phonies one and all.

Posted by: mallfly at July 18, 2012 03:05 PM (mNv7n)

53 Peggy's damn trailer is in my cow pasture on blocks.

Come get it, she's four months overdue on her rent.

Posted by: Unlce Jim at July 18, 2012 03:06 PM (Cydud)

54 Denying welfare to those not looking for work is birtherism.

Posted by: The L.A. Times Editorial Staff at July 18, 2012 03:06 PM (+XVQe)

55 Hey Ace - troll using andrewbrietbart as nic crapping all over Romney speech thread and using baaad language starting at 177. Clean up? Banhammer?

Posted by: thunderb at July 18, 2012 03:07 PM (EE8kk)

56 Erg is grandfathered in, as a cautionary example.

Posted by: toby928© at July 18, 2012 03:09 PM (QupBk)

Just a couple more seconds.

That's what she said.

Posted by: Michael Scott, not looking at any of the comments before posting at July 18, 2012 03:13 PM (BAS5M)

58 Yeah, but using Breitbart's name as a handle is way too low.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 18, 2012 03:13 PM (T0NGe)

59 59 Erg is grandfathered in, as a cautionary example.

No one loved me like that.

Posted by: Palin Steele sucking Clarence's balls at July 18, 2012 03:13 PM (Cydud)

60 I don't want Aunt Zeituni to have to work!

Posted by: Buh-rock O-bah-muhh, SCOAMF at July 18, 2012 03:16 PM (vU7T7)

61 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at July 18, 2012 03:18 PM (6o4Fb)

62 Yeah, the AB is irksome but something about ergy is endearing to me. He's kind of like our own Obama. He's not that smart, he's not very well read, and he doesn't really believe any of the stuff he posts. His big problem is that stupidity, unlike ethnicity, is not at affirmative action class. I liked it when he used to try to quote stuff smarter people said, but he always got it backwards so he's given that up, which is a shame for unintended comedy. Now he's just a rager, beating his little fists on the keyboard. His pain gives me a guilty pleasure.

Posted by: toby928© at July 18, 2012 03:19 PM (QupBk)

63 and he's not Average Joe, International Sucker of Cock, which is a plus. We get so few true trolls nowadays.

Posted by: toby928© at July 18, 2012 03:20 PM (QupBk)

64 As long as there are Liberals, there will always be ghettos.

Posted by: Nukie at July 18, 2012 03:20 PM (AzwZn)

65 Who benefits from all this JEF bullshit between now and November? My local liquor store.

Posted by: BP NJ at July 18, 2012 03:21 PM (ph70Q)

AC/DC wants their big balls back, but they'll have to fight Michelle for them.

Posted by: Joe Biden assures us Buh-rock has a big stick too. at July 18, 2012 03:21 PM (vU7T7)

heh, time for me to get back out there on the stump IYKWIMAITYD and talk up Romney Obama

Posted by: Billy Jeff at July 18, 2012 03:25 PM (8g9qq)

We get so few true trolls nowadays.

Posted by: toby928Â© at July 18, 2012 07:20 PM (QupBk)

I'm guessing that there isn't much wi-fi access in a public park that reeks of hot garbage and human feces.

Posted by: ErikW at July 18, 2012 03:25 PM (cmhGp)

69 Chicken, watermelon and Koolaid. Its what the kid wants for dinner.

Posted by: sTevo at July 18, 2012 03:25 PM (hiMsy)

70 After we increase our numbers in the house this election I want to see Alan West elected as speaker. Talk about lib and rino, nut I repeat myself, heads exploding. We'd have to have popcorn ready for the nightly news every night. Oh, and if that happens, also buy stock in pudding manufacturers.

Posted by: teej at July 18, 2012 03:27 PM (xhupI)

71 Obama made it possible.

Posted by: sTevo at July 18, 2012 03:28 PM (hiMsy)

72 I'm glad that Bill Clinton has decided to remain silent on this issue, because silence implies consent and therefor we can definitely infer that Barack Obama is a much superior Precedent then Bill Clinton.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at July 18, 2012 03:29 PM (feFL6)

73 O/T
Holy shit! CBS/NY Times registered voter poll has Willard ahead by a point with only 4% undecided.

Read that again CBS/NY Slime! If they have Willard ahead, he is WAY ahead.

They have never done an honest poll in their lives.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at July 18, 2012 03:30 PM (Cydud)

74 #49 Virus was Rogue Scanner

Posted by: Beefy Meatball at July 18, 2012 03:30 PM (mxnUd)

75 Hells yeah Mitt on fire!!! Dang Billybob!!!

Posted by: sonnyspats cc M.Romney,Matt Rhoades,Stuart fuckin Stevens! at July 18, 2012 03:31 PM (Qr9Rc)

76 I will have the flexibility of a garden hose after the election!

Posted by: Barky O'McFuckstick at July 18, 2012 03:31 PM (fjo/D)

77 >>>I don't understand Obama's political suicide

Socialists forget that folks don't like socialism is, they like what socialism promises and can never deliver. He forgot and told people what socialism is, it is a firm belief that it is society that makes the individual, not the other way around. People who have anything in their life believe it is so because of what they did, and if things were different, government services gone, they still believe they could have a good life because of the same commitment to hard work, investment, self advancement, honesty, and charity that made them successful in the first place.

Unsuccessful people believe a bad environment causes a lack of success, and believe a different environment will make them successful.

Successful people know it is their values that make them successful and that they will be successful in almost any environment by consistently applying them.

Socialists seek to tap group A to bring about structured society, where paradoxically, your most productive members of society cannot succeed, because you won't let them apply their values to living.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at July 18, 2012 03:32 PM (0q2P7)

78 Debbie Was a Man Schultz says Obama didn't really say what he said. Okay, Debbie.. you go with that. Dumb bitch.

Posted by: jewells45 at July 18, 2012 03:33 PM (UljOc)

79 Oh, I see the "erection poll" was discussed early on, still mighty interesting news.

The rats are going to start to jump. Willard's trip to the Olympic is golden and going to Israel now is a pretty damn good move too.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at July 18, 2012 03:33 PM (Cydud)

80 Did anyone notice on Fox News Sunday that Joe Trippi quietly said to Rove that, "Nine states are in play now, when four [presumably the usual Battleground states] were before."?

Two Old Pros acknowledging that the JEF is slipping???

Posted by: Jim Sonweed at July 18, 2012 03:36 PM (fBsx6)

81 #49 Virus was Rogue Scanner Posted by: Beefy Meatball

Do you have a YouTube app running? Or use iGoogle?
If so, it sounds like the false positive in the link in name.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 18, 2012 03:36 PM (mIoJ0)

82 Erections have consequences, I don't want to be punished with a baby.

Posted by: Barky O'McFuckstick at July 18, 2012 03:36 PM (fjo/D)

83 I thought "Was a Man Schultz" was a Jew wine?

Posted by: joe 'super genius' biden at July 18, 2012 03:38 PM (vDl/w)

84 It's interesting how much more politically astute Barack Obama is compared to Bill Clinton. It makes Bill Clinton look like little more then an amateur.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at July 18, 2012 03:39 PM (feFL6)

85 Erections have consequences
Tell me about it!

Posted by: tony weiner at July 18, 2012 03:39 PM (vDl/w)

86 86 Erections have consequences, I don't want to be punished with a baby.

You can't do that by yourself.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at July 18, 2012 03:39 PM (Cydud)

87 Erections have consequences, I don't want to be punished with a baby.

You can't do that by yourself.

I beg to differ...

Posted by: Ernest Borgnine at July 18, 2012 03:43 PM (p18em)

88 Erections have consequences
Tell me about it!

Posted by: tony weiner at July 18, 2012 07:39 PM (vDl/w)

Oh you think you had consequences?

Posted by: Silky Pony at July 18, 2012 03:44 PM (0q2P7)

89 Oh you think you had consequences?
Yeah. Political shrinkage.