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October 11, 2012

Florida Media Poll: Romney 51, Obama 44
— Ace

The survey conducted this week found 51 percent of likely Florida voters supporting Romney, 44 percent backing Obama and 4 percent undecided. That's a major shift from a month ago when the same poll showed Obama leading 48 percent to 47 percent Â— and a direct result of what Obama himself called a "bad night" at the first debate.
The debate prompted 5 percent of previously undecided voters and 2 percent of Obama backers to move to Romney. Another 2 percent of Obama supporters said they are now undecided because of the debate.

Okay, Florida is starting to look okay. But Florida has always been among the easiest of the states we need to flip. Hopefully this poll will be confirmed by others.

Virginia and Ohio, Virginia and Ohio.

Via @fixaaron and @johnekdahl

W.R. Meade: It's Not About Ideology. From Meade, excerpting "The Monkey Cage" blog.

The Monkey Cage cites a plot from YouGov, in which people note their own ideological leanings, and their perception of Romney's and Obama's leanings. Turns out, people rate themselves (in aggregate) closer to Romney than Obama.

So:

Romney may not have needed this pivot to the center anyway. Even though he is perceived as more conservative than the average voterÂ—and increasingly soÂ—he is still closer to the average voter than is Obama. This belies the notion that RomneyÂ’s conservative positions in the primary have damaged him in the general election. RomneyÂ’s struggles up until his debate win were not about ideology. And if this debate has a long-term effect on the race, it may not involve making voters see him as more moderate. In fact, although RomneyÂ’s embrace of conservatism has attracted more commentary, ObamaÂ’s perceived liberalism could prove the bigger liability in November.

Meade concludes:

Romney didnÂ’t shift ideologically; he passed a threshold test [of gravitas and Presidential mien.]

Yeah, I forget who was saying this, but someone was making the case that one of these guys, Ryan or Romney, finally has to brand Obama as a Big-L Liberal.

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1 Let it be so.

Posted by: Zharkov at October 11, 2012 02:11 PM (hmcRy)

2 Anyone going to see Romney/Ryan in Lancaster, OH tomorrow? My back doctor, my family doctor, my allergist and my internal medicine guy all are.

Funny huh.

Posted by: momma at October 11, 2012 02:12 PM (fKyrY)

3 "Winning Hispanics 46-44?"

Sellin' guns to Mexican drug cartels was a bad idea?

Posted by: Dang© at October 11, 2012 02:12 PM (R18D0)

4 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at October 11, 2012 02:13 PM (6o4Fb)

5 Oh, and 'BAMA FOH!!!

Posted by: Dang© at October 11, 2012 02:13 PM (R18D0)

7 points is stretching it a little I think.

Definitely up there, as even D>2008 polls can only get Obama a point or two ahead. But I'd think more 3-4% at the moment, not quite 7.

Any breakdowns on this poll?

Posted by: AussieMarcus at October 11, 2012 02:14 PM (RstsB)

7 Might this already have confirmation in the Sudden move by Suffolk to stop polling Florida?

Posted by: Matt at October 11, 2012 02:14 PM (0PUve)

8 If not Ohio, we have to get Wisconsin AND Iowa//CO/NV.

Posted by: wooga at October 11, 2012 02:14 PM (vjyZP)

>>Okay, Florida is starting to look okay.

Just checked the map and google earth. Florida still looks like a limp dick. No change.

Posted by: garrett at October 11, 2012 02:15 PM (aCBaG)

10 Florida will go R&R.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, unbanned, ready to get this done at October 11, 2012 02:16 PM (baL2B)

11 Ohio?

I don't know. I've driven through the state a lot the past four years. Out of habit, I try to pull into 'corporate centers' where there used to be jobs, and cars, and no signs. Now I see signs advertising a gazillion square feet available, no cars, and probably no jobs.

Prime real estate and opportunity for deficit/deficient Democrats, but I hope the people in the state wise up.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 11, 2012 02:16 PM (feFL6)

12 Key stat: Obama formerly led Romney by 11 points among Independence. Now, Romney leads Obama by 13 in this category. Huge f'n swing.

Posted by: angler at October 11, 2012 02:16 PM (SwjAj)

13

Those Cuban-Americans should be careful. If they don't vote the right way, the political class will take away their status of Aggrieved Minority.

Posted by: dan-O at October 11, 2012 02:16 PM (sWycd)

14 Preference Cascade is building.

Posted by: Joe Mama at October 11, 2012 02:17 PM (sYCCV)

Key stat: Obama formerly led Romney by 11 points among Independence.

Well said.

Posted by: Meghan McCain at October 11, 2012 02:18 PM (aCBaG)

16 If Barry and Company keep this shit up they're gonna flip me.

Posted by: California at October 11, 2012 02:18 PM (wAQA5)

17 Florida = America's wang

Posted by: steevy at October 11, 2012 02:18 PM (6o4Fb)

18 I forget who was saying this, but someone was making the case that one of these guys, Ryan or Romney, finally has to brand Obama as a Big-L Liberal.

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Yep. Tax and Spend Liberal, weak on defense. Same as its always been.

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 11, 2012 02:18 PM (P6QsQ)

19
My electoral map shows that with FL, Romney can win with NC and CO without OH or PA.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 11, 2012 02:18 PM (PHb2k)

20 @ AussieMarcus As a Floridian on the ground I'll report this: In 2008 the upper-middle class area my parents live in, and the college area I lived in (outside UCF) was a sea of blue Obama signs. Now there are more RR signs with empty chairs next to them (6) than Obama signs in my parents entire neighborhood. TONS of RR signs. A lot less signs overall in the UCF area; enthusiasm for TFG is way down. Don't get confused by Bill Nelson's lead. He carries quite a bit of water around here due to being a very effective insurance commissioner for the state back in the early '90s, a job he did better than any Republican who has since replaced him. He gets many otherwise R votes for this.

Posted by: Matt at October 11, 2012 02:19 PM (0PUve)

21 Bob Beckel and his prediction that we will not break the magic "8-year cycle" hardest hit. He also says that Romney is "not big enough to be President" and that Biden will "take a buzzsaw" to Ryan. Of all the toads in the media, he is indeed King of Toad Hall.

Posted by: 56 and loving RR at October 11, 2012 02:19 PM (9zugO)

22 From what I hear from an Hispanic here who has a close friend (also Hispanic) in Florida.....Romney will win Hispanics in Florida. They can't stand Obama. They love Rubio and Jeb.

Posted by: Tami at October 11, 2012 02:19 PM (X6akg)

23 Fuck the middle. I'm runnin' over here. *points to the right - blows snot out of his nostril to the left*

Posted by: The Mitt at October 11, 2012 02:19 PM (R18D0)

24 Greggums Hardest Hit

Posted by: Evilpens at October 11, 2012 02:19 PM (ck76k)

Anyone going to see Romney/Ryan in Lancaster, OH tomorrow? My back doctor, my family doctor, my allergist and my internal medicine guy all are.

Funny huh.

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I'll be there.

As to the poll, winnig hispanics? Yea.....that ones out there.

Posted by: Rich at October 11, 2012 02:19 PM (pnHKr)

26 >>Well said.

Ouch. Better slow down on the bourbon.

Posted by: angler at October 11, 2012 02:20 PM (SwjAj)

27 Virginia and Ohio, Virginia and Ohio.

I just don't see VA as a problem. Usually NoVa is the epicenter of libtardedness for the state. Not this year. At least not that anyone is willing to say publicly.

Posted by: pep at October 11, 2012 02:20 PM (6TB1Z)

28 Joe, you're sitting on your boss! Oh, sorry. Wrong chair...

Posted by: Paul Ryan at October 11, 2012 02:20 PM (FcR7P)

29 Yeah, I forget who was saying this, but someone was making the case that one of these guys, Ryan or Romney, finally has to brand Obama as a Big-L Liberal.
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What's funny is Obama will make "Liberal" an epithet again.

Posted by: Methos at October 11, 2012 02:20 PM (6LvlL)

30 Viva La Romney

Posted by: AmericanDawg at October 11, 2012 02:21 PM (COr7y)

31 Of all the toads in the media, he is indeed King of Toad Hall.

Or as we call it, Mr. Toad's Wild Ride.

Posted by: pep at October 11, 2012 02:22 PM (6TB1Z)

32 If Barry and Company keep this shit up they're gonna flip me.Posted by: California at October 11, 2012 06:18 PM (wAQA5) You'd think $5 gas and real UE at 25% would do it. But I am not counting on it.

Posted by: marinemom at October 11, 2012 02:22 PM (OKtOV)

I live in Florida and have been working the state...I KNOW IT IS TRUE!!

Suffolk Pollster pulls out of Florida, Virginia and North Carolina because their polling up to this week shows Obama will not win any of those three....he is at 47/48 percent and cannot climb...

NewsmaxZogby today...Ohio Poll...848 LV...Obama's lead down from 9 to 1 point...the 9 points before the debate....now it is 45/44 after the debate...Zogby finds like ARG (48/47 Romney) and NBC Columbus(45/44 Obama...Indies are breaking big for Romney. Oh and ARG used a PLUS 8 Dem sample and NBC Columbus did as well...Anyone believe Obama will have plus 8 like in 2008? in 2010 it was Plus 1 Repub?

Ace whined about CNN...hey Duece go look at CNN's partisan split from their Ohio poll out yesterday and then MAN UP.

Same with that NBC/Marist with PLUS 11 DEM SAMPLE....SO bad the POLLSTER even noted how SKEWED the sample was THEMSELVES in the Press Release...and with 11 Dem Sample...Obama up only 5...Also go check the female to male breakdown of the NBC Ohio Poll...increased females by 3 percent over 2008 and 2010...also they are keeping the BLACK VOTE at 14 percent...SORRY ACE there is no way Blacks will be a record number 14 like 2008. Blacks historically are 10-11 percent....So NBC in OHIO ridiculously oversampled Dems, women, blacks and youth (18 percent from 2008.....when historically about 12 percent). And Obama's lead was cut in half!!...LOL!!

Posted by: bluerose75 at October 11, 2012 02:22 PM (HDcKc)

34 Whaddever you do, please don't flip me!

Posted by: Guam at October 11, 2012 02:22 PM (96M6e)

35 Oh boy coming up on Bret Baker - Stephanie Cutter tells us how Benghazi is all Romney's. Fault.

Posted by: BitterClingy&Buried at October 11, 2012 02:22 PM (QQcJv)

36 oh, look, and email from Stephanie Cutter:

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Over the course of his career, Joe Biden has always said exactly what he means, and people know they can count on the Vice President to be straight with them.

You can't say the same about Paul Ryan.

Out on the campaign trail, Ryan has followed Mitt Romney's lead -- making a habit of misrepresenting or flat-out denying his unpopular, extreme positions, while distorting President Obama's record. Both Romney and Ryan know that if they're honest with the American people about their proposals and their records, it'll hurt their chances to win the election.
===

I guess she ain't getting fired... so long as she stays on message.

Posted by: mallfly at October 11, 2012 02:22 PM (bJm7W)

37 Florida, my current and home state, always seem to flip to the winner. Somebody help me out, when was the last time Florida went to the loser?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 11, 2012 02:22 PM (GEICT)

38 Florida = America's wang
Posted by: steevy

That makes the Florida panhandle the male bag - after a cold swim.

Posted by: Dang© at October 11, 2012 02:23 PM (R18D0)

39 Had this in the debate thread, but it's relevant here........

I've been working as a poll observer during early voting here in Franklin county Ohio. Tuesday night was the Obama rally at OSU. Poll workers were told to expect 2-3,000 people, and that there would likely still be a line out the door at 9pm when they closed. Tuesday was the last day of registration and the 'golden week' where you can register/vote same day.

10 buses arrived. 50-60 max capacity. One of the sheriff's there on duty told me one of them was only half full. That means they didn't even break 600. From an Obama rally. On OSU campus.

Let that sink in a minute.

By 8:30, you could roll tumbleweeds down the aisles it was so dead in there. Would expect that on any other night, but not THAT night.

Posted by: tdpwells at October 11, 2012 02:23 PM (7vA7k)

40 *Baier. Sorry about the auto correct.

Posted by: BitterClingy&Buried at October 11, 2012 02:23 PM (QQcJv)

41 You know I'm kinda liking the cut of this Romney fellow's jib. When do I get a chance at voting for him?

Posted by: Joe Biden, VP... No, really, the VP at October 11, 2012 02:24 PM (eHIJJ)

42 This is a Mason Dixon poll, the 11entybestest state poller.

Oh, clik the nik for a new poll showing Romney taking the lead amongst eveel Joooooos. (Not kidding).

Posted by: eureka! at October 11, 2012 02:24 PM (cTjRR)

43 Steph Cutter on Special Report and she looks sad. I wonder how bad the ass chewing was?

Posted by: Adam at October 11, 2012 02:24 PM (/YJYi)

44 As to the poll, winnig hispanics? Yea.....that ones out there.Posted by: Rich at October 11, 2012 06:19 PM Not really that far out there. Cuban-Amerians have always voted differently from other hispanics.

Posted by: marinemom at October 11, 2012 02:25 PM (OKtOV)

45 10 buses arrived. 50-60 max capacity. Michigan plates?

Posted by: t-bird at October 11, 2012 02:25 PM (FcR7P)

46 yeah, maybe time for Obama to pivot right? Why bother trying to get Fluke's vote. Let's set the tone for ill-behaved lefties. You will be punished for harassing kids, vandalizing homes, being union thugs, giving billions to political donors, etc.

Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 11, 2012 02:25 PM (QxSug)

47 Over
the course of his career, Joe Biden has always said exactly what he
means.

So did Pol Pot. Your point?

Posted by: pep at October 11, 2012 02:25 PM (6TB1Z)

48 Bret Baier schooling Steph Cutter on Fox right now.

Posted by: 56 and loving RR at October 11, 2012 02:25 PM (9zugO)

Virginia is supposedly looking pretty good as well (Suffolk declared they are no longer going to bother to poll VA). I can tell you that in Alexandria, VA, which went 72% for Obama in 2008, GOP signs and bumper stickers are even with dem ones and possibly outnumber them. Not that Romney will win here but it'll be well into the 30's, which bodes well statewide.

Ohio scares me though ...

Posted by: buzz at October 11, 2012 02:26 PM (i27M5)

50 46 You never know when Biden will just start chewing on a woman's ass.

Posted by: Beto at October 11, 2012 02:26 PM (BAnPT)

51 We don't need Ohio. FL, SC, VA, ARE PROBABLE.. Get WI, IA and CO and that's it! 273.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 11, 2012 02:26 PM (UTq/I)

52

Why is Connie Mack losing so badly there then? RCP average is multiple points in favor of Nelson. What is up with that?

Posted by: dan-O at October 11, 2012 02:26 PM (sWycd)

53 Do we get Bipartisan Cheerleaders in the Over-hyped Debate Thread?

Posted by: yes at October 11, 2012 02:27 PM (LpQbZ)

54 Greggie? Ooh Greggie......Come oooutt aaaand plaayay.

Oh, who am I kidding. After Biden totally demolishes Ryan and shows him to be a doddering ninny, FL will be back up for grabs.

Why yesh, Occifer, I did have a few drinkypoos earlier today.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 11, 2012 02:27 PM (ccXZP)

55 County clerk offices in Wisconsin are reporting that van loads of people are coming in to register to vote, all with the same address. All for the Democrats. Voter registration is exceedingly prone to fraud here as the Government Accountability Board is relaxing the documents that are required to be shown for registration and the Voter ID law that passed is tied up in the courts, thanks to the lefty Madison judge.

We have to win by over 2% here to overcome the level of fraud.

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 11, 2012 02:27 PM (P6QsQ)

56

Those other guys are EXTREMELY EXTREME EXTREMISTS.

ELEVENTY!

Posted by: Obama and Biden at October 11, 2012 02:27 PM (PHb2k)

57 Wow Baker is pounding Cutter.

Posted by: BitterClingy&Buried at October 11, 2012 02:27 PM (QQcJv)

58 Not extremely surprising that Romney is winning Hispanics with the large Cuban population.

Posted by: MidGeorgian at October 11, 2012 02:27 PM (qBGUl)

59 Baier is burying Cutter.

Posted by: angler at October 11, 2012 02:27 PM (SwjAj)

60 Big "T" trotskyite.

Posted by: BignJames at October 11, 2012 02:28 PM (HtUkt)

Not really that far out there. Cuban-Amerians have always voted differently from other hispanics.

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But can someone point to a time when a Republican Presidential candidate has actually won hispanics? Even if you limit it to just Floridian hispanics? If so, I'll eat my words.

Posted by: Rich at October 11, 2012 02:28 PM (pnHKr)

62 Cutter still spewing her shit with Baier. He scoffs at her, but she keeps spouting it. Obviously she we keep her job.

Posted by: marinemom at October 11, 2012 02:28 PM (OKtOV)

63 Big L as in LEFTY!

Posted by: Redman Bluestae at October 11, 2012 02:28 PM (sRIFP)

64 yeah, maybe time for Obama to pivot right? I doubt he can pivot without traveling.

Posted by: t-bird at October 11, 2012 02:28 PM (FcR7P)

65 I meant Baier. Liar liar liar.

Posted by: BitterClingy&Buried at October 11, 2012 02:28 PM (QQcJv)

66 DAMNIT I thought I finally had a thread... Stomping in my own brain now...

Posted by: CAC at October 11, 2012 02:28 PM (j8xN0)

67 At this point, I am dreaming of Akin and McMahon winning, maybe even Bongingo. Ah, Md is a tough nut to crack. But, I bet Allen will win Va.

Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 11, 2012 02:28 PM (QxSug)

68 48 10 buses arrived. 50-60 max capacity.

Michigan plates?

Posted by: t-bird at October 11, 2012 06:25 PM (FcR7P)

Haha, no. And I checked. May or may not have written down plate numbers because they may or may not be verified at a future date to determine if they are taxpayer funded.

Posted by: tdpwells at October 11, 2012 02:29 PM (7vA7k)

69 If Barry and Company keep this shit up they're gonna flip me.

Posted by: California at October 11, 2012 06:18 PM (wAQA5)

Obama is polling -10 from his 2008 numbers in California... that's pretty big

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 11, 2012 02:29 PM (nTgAI)

70 Fuck, I meant, maybe it's time for Romney to pivot right. Obama can't pivot right like he did in 2008 because record.

Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 11, 2012 02:29 PM (QxSug)

71 With the usual disclaimer of anecdotes not equalling data...Based on my Hispanic buddies here in Phoenix, they are pretty weary of TFG's act.

Posted by: jakeman at October 11, 2012 02:29 PM (96M6e)

72 Spaniard, Spaniard, Spaniard...

Posted by: The Crowd of Maximus Preferencus Cascadius at October 11, 2012 02:29 PM (Gt8ei)

73 They should just call him a destructive asshole ideologue and get it over with.

Posted by: HtP at October 11, 2012 02:30 PM (jx2j9)

74 "Key stat: Obama formerly led Romney by 11 points among Independence." The state of independence shall be.

Posted by: Zombie Donna Summer at October 11, 2012 02:30 PM (i0vBR)

75 Steph looks like she's about to breakdown.

Posted by: Adam at October 11, 2012 02:30 PM (/YJYi)

76 52

Was out doing door to door last Saturday in the Rosemont neighborhood and I saw more Romney signs than Obama signs. There's even an Alexandria office that has opened in assistance to the mega success of the Arlington HQ office that is doing an incredible job of making contacts.

Posted by: Chris P at October 11, 2012 02:30 PM (LuvqF)

77 **72 48 10 buses arrived. 50-60 max capacity. ** Are you suggesting these are union thugs bussed in to create anti-Ryan boos? Well, I stand by my Wellstone Memorial prediction then.

Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 11, 2012 02:30 PM (QxSug)

78 Cutter taking an ass-pounding on FOX.

Posted by: Torch-Wielding Villager at October 11, 2012 02:30 PM (sTS/8)

79 Steph is throwing out great lines-----she used "cover up"----oh, she shouldn't have done that. "Next time I'll bring my notes", she said. Ace is right----she's terrible at her job.

Posted by: 56 and loving RR at October 11, 2012 02:30 PM (9zugO)

80 Dan-O: Nelson was the state insurance commissioner of Florida back in the early 90's. This position is a huge pitfall for corruption and incompetence. Nelson was neither. Insurance rates remained stable after hurricane Andrew, and to this day he gets a lot of Republican votes based on this.

Posted by: Matt at October 11, 2012 02:30 PM (0PUve)

81 We just need get Iowa Republicans absentee totals to be less than 60,000 than the Democrats and we will win there on election day.

And good news for us: we are already outpacing George Bush early voting totals in both Iowa and Ohio at this point in the game!

Posted by: NWConservative at October 11, 2012 02:30 PM (M1gmo)

82 I've been saying 40 states for 7 months. So... Listen he fuck up when I talk.

Posted by: Truman North at October 11, 2012 02:31 PM (j8J0O)

83 Big C Commie.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at October 11, 2012 02:31 PM (i0vBR)

84 but let's not forget that Obama personally said, "yeah... okay, I guess so" to getting Osama...

Posted by: mallfly at October 11, 2012 02:31 PM (bJm7W)

85 Baier did a great job not reaching over and whacking Stephanie Cutter.

Posted by: BitterClingy&Buried at October 11, 2012 02:31 PM (QQcJv)

86 More like Romney up 20 with Ind's. So, my hastag is #R60O40. The preference cascade for the undecided yet sane is happening, giving a D+10 can't hide it anymore.

Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 11, 2012 02:31 PM (QxSug)

87 Might this already have confirmation in the Sudden move by Suffolk to stop polling Florida?
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Suffolk stopping 3 swing states a month before the election seems hinky to me. My gut reaction is they know it's swinging towards Romney and don't want the continuous reports about it. No polls, no stories about Romney's increasing domination.

Posted by: Mayday at October 11, 2012 02:31 PM (F3s39)

As for the Hispanics....we locally working with the Romney camp have definitely noticed more and more Hispanics with favorable and positive views of Romney....Romney has run some excellent Spanish Language Ads here and his debate performance commanded alot of respect. Another issue not talked about was that UNIVISION report the other weekend. Some may have forgotten but that report on Fast & Furious angered many here in the Hispanic Community!! As well Romney played three large campaign stops in Florida on Sat and Sun..packing over 13,000 per venue....so over 40,000 came to see him. I attended one of the stops and is was FANTASTIC and packed! You could not move!

As well at his stop over in Port St. Lucie....Allen West joined Romney and the crowd was JAZZED from what some of the local press and workers mentioned.

Romney is doing great here and the Hispanics are indeed warming more and more to him.

Posted by: bluerose75 at October 11, 2012 02:31 PM (HDcKc)

89 I never doubted you, Truman. Not out loud anyway.

Posted by: jakeman at October 11, 2012 02:32 PM (96M6e)

90 Brett Baier just made Stef Cutter poop in her mess kit.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at October 11, 2012 02:32 PM (PH+2B)

91 But Greggy says that Virginia is lost and it's all over for Romney, so I'm just throwing up my hands and staying home.

Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at October 11, 2012 02:32 PM (GrtrJ)

92 Cutter taking an ass-pounding on FOX.

Posted by: Torch-Wielding Villager at October 11, 2012 06:30 PM (sTS/

Hmmmm ?

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 11, 2012 02:32 PM (nTgAI)

93 "Next time I'll bring my notes" Regis, I'd like to use one of my lifelines and call a friend...

Posted by: Stephanie Cutter at October 11, 2012 02:33 PM (FcR7P)

94 93 >>> Brett Baier just made Stef Cutter poop in her mess kit.

WAR AGAINST WIMMINZ!!1!

Posted by: Torch-Wielding Villager at October 11, 2012 02:33 PM (sTS/8)

95 Just a reminder: Vienna Embassy gets Volts. Libya Embassy -- security requests turned down. Saving GM > American lives. Going Green > American lives. In a May 3, 2012, email, the State Department denied a request by a group of Special Forces assigned to protect the U.S. embassy in Libya to continue their use of a DC- 3 airplane for security operations throughout the country. The subject line of the email, on which slain Ambassador Chris Stevens was copied, read: Â“Termination of Tripoli DC-3 Support.Â” Four days later, on May 7, the State Department authorized the U.S. embassy in Vienna to purchase a $108,000 electric vehicle charging station for the embassy motor poolÂ’s new Chevrolet Volts. The purchase was a part of the State DepartmentÂ’s Â“Energy Efficiency Sweep of EuropeÂ” initiative, which included hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars on green program expenditures at various U.S. Embassies. In fact, at a May 10 gala held at the U.S. embassy in Vienna, the ambassador showcased his new Volts and other green investments as part of the U.S. governmentÂ’s commitment to Â“climate change solutions.Â” The event posting on the embassy website read: Â“Celebrating the Greening of the Embassy.Â”

Posted by: sick to my stomach at October 11, 2012 02:33 PM (LpQbZ)

96 I suspect that Cutter's main qualifications are female and able to sign her name on emails. As Emmet Tyrell said about Hillary years ago, intellectual fluff.

Posted by: mallfly at October 11, 2012 02:33 PM (bJm7W)

97 Anyone see Stephanie Cutter get grilled by Brett Baier? God, she is a REALLY bad liar and kinda stupid.

Posted by: Macaroon at October 11, 2012 02:33 PM (bw8pg)

98 yeah, so why not have romney swing to the right? Go Reagan on Obama from now on...

Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 11, 2012 02:33 PM (QxSug)

I think that both Romney and Ryan should start calling him Haysoose.

Maybe elongate it a little - Haysooooose.

" 'sup Haysoooooose?"

Posted by: HtP at October 11, 2012 02:33 PM (jx2j9)

100 Going right by Romney insulates him from the bogus lefty charge (like leveled at Walker) that he goverened different than he ran.

Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 11, 2012 02:34 PM (QxSug)

101 Steph is throwing out great lines-----she used "cover up"----oh, she shouldn't have done that. "Next time I'll bring my notes", she said. Ace is right----she's terrible at her job.
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I'm pretty sure Stephanie Cutter is the same mouthpiece Obama had to bench for awhile in 2008 because she called Hillary a bitch or a monster or a nazi. Don't remember the exact details but he had to shuttle her off somewhere out of media sight for the remainder of the election iirc.

Posted by: Mayday at October 11, 2012 02:34 PM (F3s39)

102 Holy fuck!! I can't NOT believe the balls on that cunt Cutter!

I want to punch that bitch in the mouth.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 11, 2012 02:34 PM (dX4hn)

103

I've been saying 40 states for 7 months. So... Listen he fuck up when I talk.

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That would be so awesome, but so hard to do. I mean that would mean Mitt would have to either win something like Oregon or New Jersey to do it though.

Posted by: Rich at October 11, 2012 02:34 PM (pnHKr)

104 Also in Alexandria, VA; I can report that that O bumper stickers are way, way, way down from 2008. The sign wars are starting but it's nowhere near the level of four years ago either. Democrats in Northern Virginia, as a whole, will come out to vote because they know what's going on. If Romney can get enough Republicans and independents to come out for him to stay even or just a couple points below Obama in Fairfax, Alexandria City, and Arlington, he'll win the state. I'm sure his people are talking with Bob "I won Fairfax County in 2009 and the state by 19!" McDonnell about ground game.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 11, 2012 02:35 PM (4ramR)

105 40 Florida, my current and home state, always seem to flip to the winner. Somebody help me out, when was the last time Florida went to the loser? In MI we vote for the loser that wins.

Posted by: tygart at October 11, 2012 02:35 PM (sofSX)

106 93 Brett Baier just made Stef Cutter poop in her mess kit.

sounds like Greg when he was a boy scout.

Posted by: mallfly at October 11, 2012 02:35 PM (bJm7W)

107

Senor is awesome.

Elongated Awwwwsooooommmme.

Minor man crush.

Posted by: HtP at October 11, 2012 02:35 PM (jx2j9)

108 104 Yeah,I think you are right that that was her.

Posted by: steevy at October 11, 2012 02:35 PM (6o4Fb)

109 did you see the guy on Oreilly from Suffolk ....something Polling? He said they are not polling VA, FL and NC anymore because romney will win them. FWIW....

Posted by: jmp; at October 11, 2012 02:35 PM (c+fvr)

110 Damn. Missed it, I hope the Bret beat down on Cutter makes the net.

Posted by: Obama and Biden at October 11, 2012 02:36 PM (PHb2k)

111 Suck it, Greg.

Posted by: logprof at October 11, 2012 02:37 PM (V/U0X)

112 How about we stop second guessing Romney and count on the ground game to win this motherfucker? Get in the street and on the phones and make damn sure you have Election Day off to identify the voters who promised to vote but haven't, and drag their ass to the polls. Or be a the polls to make a huge scene about anything close to fraud. Bodies. We need bodies to counteract the union machine. And here bodies we need? They. Are. Us.

Posted by: Truman North at October 11, 2012 02:37 PM (j8J0O)

113 Stephanie Cunter, "Do you think WE were politicizing this?" Chutzpah, defined. ]All Baier had to respond with (if he wanted to be overly charitable) was to point out that Barky felt a Vegas fundraiser was more important to them than monitoring the Benghazi situation - which they didn't know all about, as they claim they still aren't aware of 'all the particulars'.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 02:37 PM (X3lox)

114 I'm not usually nervous about this stuff, but I'm kind of nervous about today's debate. Perhaps it's a spillover from other stuff that has given rise to negative emotions within my soul today.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at October 11, 2012 02:38 PM (6zgse)

115 We have actually been seeing Romney/Ryan stickers on Prius's here in So Cal - which I can tell you was not the case in 2008. I have hopes for CA!!!

Posted by: IC at October 11, 2012 02:38 PM (a0IVu)

116 >>Emmet Tyrell said about Hillary years ago, intellectual fluff.

My favorite line about Hillary was from Dennis Miller, when she was running for Senate on the wave of Bill's popularity. "The only reason why Hillary is riding her husband's coattails is because there isn't any room on the front of the garment."

Posted by: angler at October 11, 2012 02:38 PM (SwjAj)

117 Cutter taking an ass-pounding on FOX.

Posted by: Torch-Wielding Villager at October 11, 2012 06:30 PM (sTS/

Gawd, I'm so jealous. Hay FOX, call me K??

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at October 11, 2012 02:38 PM (wAQA5)

118 26 days.

Posted by: Soona at October 11, 2012 02:38 PM (6szqB)

119 Forget what Florida was... we're deep red now. R gov, R supermajority in the legislature, Rubio, West... But then we have DWS and Corinne Brown. No one's perfect.

Posted by: Weew at October 11, 2012 02:39 PM (R0JuT)

120 107,

As of two weekends ago, pre-debate, the VA state HQ in Arlington had contacted everyone in Arlington five times. They're getting so many people that they opened a smaller office in Alexandria, and have the Arlington kids going out into McLean and northern precincts of Alexandria. Those precincts should be interesting come election night

Posted by: Chris P at October 11, 2012 02:39 PM (LuvqF)

121 I'm pretty sure Stephanie Cutter is the same mouthpiece Obama had to bench for awhile in 2008 because she called Hillary a bitch or a monster or a nazi. Don't remember the exact details but he had to shuttle her off somewhere out of media sight for the remainder of the election iirc.
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I was mistaken, that was Samantha Power who said Hillary was a monster in 2008, and had to resign from O's campaign.

Posted by: Mayday at October 11, 2012 02:40 PM (F3s39)

122 Epic Marketing Fail of the Day: My wife just stood praying in front of an abortion clinic for several hours, gets home to a Planned Parenthood Votes mailer addressed to her, a particularly odious one that doesn't try to hide the issue behind a smoke screen of mammograms and pap smears. This one has a women who aborted her baby on it, saying it was her private decision.

Posted by: Jean at October 11, 2012 02:40 PM (u5ozF)

123 I've been saying 40 states for 7 months. So... Listen he fuck up when I talk.

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That would be so awesome, but so hard to do. I mean that would mean Mitt would have to either win something like Oregon or New Jersey to do it though.

Posted by: Rich at October 11, 2012 06:34 PM (pnHKr)

Oregon last I heard was O+8

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 11, 2012 02:40 PM (nTgAI)

124 Senor will probably be Sec of State under Romney.

Posted by: HtP at October 11, 2012 02:40 PM (jx2j9)

125

About 10 minutes ago I the anchor on Fox described FL as a "toss up".

Well, I noticed that Obama was lying about Benghazi about a month before they did, too.

Posted by: Optimizer at October 11, 2012 02:41 PM (As94z)

126 Go Gata!

Posted by: Corrine Brown at October 11, 2012 02:42 PM (/YJYi)

127 124 Samantha Power - Stephanie Cutter = Same shit

Posted by: steevy at October 11, 2012 02:42 PM (6o4Fb)

128 "7 points is stretching it a little I think.

Definitely up there, as even D>2008 polls can only get Obama a point or two ahead. But I'd think more 3-4% at the moment, not quite 7.

Any breakdowns on this poll?"

Naw, 7 points feels about right. Bush took the state by 5%. The Univision interview killed Obama.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 11, 2012 02:42 PM (dX4hn)

129 123 107, As of two weekends ago, pre-debate, the VA state HQ in Arlington had contacted everyone in Arlington five times. They're getting so many people that they opened a smaller office in Alexandria, and have the Arlington kids going out into McLean and northern precincts of Alexandria. Those precincts should be interesting come election night _________________ I was talking to someone today and she's getting multiple robocalls a night from both OFA and the GOP (for those who don't know, there is no registering by party in VA). She's receiving a lesser amount of calls with actual people on the other end. It's driving her nuts :-) She also told me that if she hangs up on the OFA person while he/she is reading the script, he/her will call back and try to finish it.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 11, 2012 02:42 PM (4ramR)

130

Mayday...I agree with you but remember one thing..POLLING is very very expensive...sometimes I am not sure how many people know the cost of one poll for say 400 LV....the cost would amaze people! Suffolk has to justify the cost to its subscribers and advertisers....that is economics and whether or not they want stories of Romney dominating does nothing to their bottom line. They must justify spending literally tens of thousands of dollars in any state they poll. So if they are polling states that they can see little point in polling then more than likely it is economics. They have to reallocate their resources to other states...just like campaigns...Obama is quietly pulling money out of North Carolina. I am waiting to see when Obama puts money in PA!! Romney this week will for the first time SPEND MORE MONEY than Obama on TV....that is the week coming up...15th of Oct...he has more ad buys then Obama...Crossroads announced a 7.3 million buy in Ohio, Virginia, Colorado and Florida to pound Obama...saw the ad here yesterday in Orlando...As well the EIC committee announced big buys in Ohio, WI, FL and VA and some other swing states to pound Obama and Senate Candidates over Israel.

If Suffolk wanted to be quiet about it..He would never have gone on O'Reilly to tell him. They would have just stopped polling and left! And no one would know and we conservatives would not even have the good awareness of why!

Posted by: bluerose75 at October 11, 2012 02:43 PM (HDcKc)

131 126 >>> Oregon last I heard was O+8.

^THIS.

Oregon will NOT go Romney. I lived there for nearly 12 years -- it's as blue as Massachusetts. Portland is fucking Moscow-on-the-Willamette.

Posted by: Torch-Wielding Villager at October 11, 2012 02:43 PM (sTS/8)

132 Romney will win NJ. New York is in play. It's going to be brutal.

Posted by: Truman North at October 11, 2012 02:43 PM (I2LwF)

133 off with a dirty dirty sock

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 11, 2012 02:44 PM (PHb2k)

134

Seen a few Nobama bumper stickers here in central coast CA.

Haven't seen more than a couple B.O. 2012 stickers. Very sparse.

Then, the other day I saw "OBAMAGAS !" written in orange Sharpie on a Chevron pump.

Posted by: wth at October 11, 2012 02:44 PM (wAQA5)

135 All Romney has to do now is take Ohio. Take Ohio and he wins.

Posted by: Chris R at October 11, 2012 02:44 PM (qP4e9)

136

I thought I'd re-comment this thing that got me so... well it nearly had me... sort of made me think about being outraged, but in the end didn't.

http://tinyurl.com/8onhxqj

Posted by: HtP at October 11, 2012 02:45 PM (jx2j9)

137 Stephanie Cutter is a mewling quim. Her self-congratulatory laugh at the end of her Baier interview sounds like she's a couple of fries short of a Happy Meal.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 11, 2012 02:46 PM (lOmbq)

138 Great! More awesome wisdom from Juan Williams.

Posted by: HtP at October 11, 2012 02:47 PM (jx2j9)

139 @135 I don't think Oregon is as blue as that but the invasive fleeing Californian species is a particularly nasty parasite, destroying every new home with leftism. There's a lot of old school pioneer stuff there too. But that's being overrun by Portlandia types. check how the I's on OR break.

Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 11, 2012 02:47 PM (QxSug)

140 Oh yeah..Obama only up 14 in Ca....Yes Down down from 24...that is the difference of 1.3 million votes!! Obama beat McLame by 3.2 million in 2008 and Romney would be closer by over a million votes in ONE STATE! Obama is dropping there...in the Poll Romney is now ahead with INDIES in CA....now CA is not going to Romney but the closer the race is in CA indicates indeed that OBAMA is bleeding support. You do not drop ten points in CA which is DEEP BLUE without some serious ramifications. Remember Romney has not been in CA at all except the once I think in front of Solyndra's Office. Obama only goes for Hollywood Money!!

Posted by: bluerose75 at October 11, 2012 02:48 PM (HDcKc)

141 Stephanie Cutter is a mewling quim. Her self-congratulatory laugh at the end of her Baier interview sounds like she's a couple of fries short of a Happy Meal.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 11, 2012 06:46 PM (lOmbq)

Dumber than a dumptruck full of empty taxpayer paid contraceptive wrappers.

Posted by: HtP at October 11, 2012 02:49 PM (jx2j9)

142 Romney will win NJ. New York is in play. It's going to be brutal.

Posted by: Truman North at October 11, 2012 06:43 PM (I2LwF)

I hope so, but as Winston Wolfe said, "Well, let's not start sucking each other's dicks quite yet".

Posted by: Ombudsman at October 11, 2012 02:49 PM (eOufH)

143 # 135

Oregon is populated with people from California which left that larger state because it wasn't liberal enough. Oregon will not go to Romney. Not now, not in the foreseeable future. Kim Jong-Jung-Ill-Bung-Sun would beat Romney.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 11, 2012 02:50 PM (L7hol)

144 In my neck of NoVA, not as many Barky signs as in 2008. In fact in 2008 we had out of state Barkybots roaming our neighborhood at this time asking who I was voting for... Haven't had any Barkybots show up just yet. If R/R can split Fairfax Co., or not lose by more than 3%, R/R should win VA. If R/R win Fairfax Co., game over for Barky, regardless what Barky does in Arlington and Alexandria.

Posted by: Jim Scrummy at October 11, 2012 02:50 PM (y12hg)

145 129 I'm starting to think they don't have anything else to launch against Romney.
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Rebel, I was thinking the same thing too. After the immediate and overwhelming negative media following last week's debate I fully expected the O campaign to drop some sort of bomb (figuratively or literally, given Libya is a hanging fly ball). Nothing. Then with the polls moving decisively toward Romney, their response is Big Bird? The must be completely empty ammo.

They seem scattered, panicked which is another indication they must not have anything. I get the sense they haven't taken a deep breath to calmly assess their situation, because I (and all of us, I'm sure) can easily think of other ways they could've reacted that would have been better for them. Either the campaign is in disarray, or Obama or Valerie are making decisions themselves and their staff are afraid to contradict them.

Posted by: Mayday at October 11, 2012 02:50 PM (F3s39)

146

Having reviewed "Dave in Fla"s site, here's where I think the election stands:

Start with the assumption that we have all of McCain's states, plus IN(11). That's 191 EV.

Suppose we believe that pollster who says the race is over in FL(29), NC(15), VA(13) - that Romney has them all. "Dave in Fla" attests to the idea that Romney has FL, which I personally find comforting. That brings us up to 248 EV.

Dave has a special OH( 18 ) analysis that shows that, with his 2010 model (which is the one I tend to go with), Romney is up 4.5%. So add OH. That gets you to 266 EV.

Romney needs 270 EV, so beyond FL, NC, VA, and OH, ... ANY of the remaining swing states would do the trick: CO(9), IA(6), MI(16), NH(4), NV(6), PA(20), or WI(10).

Things look pretty good right now.

Posted by: Optimizer at October 11, 2012 02:52 PM (As94z)

147 "But can someone point to a time when a Republican Presidential candidate has actually won hispanics? Even if you limit it to just Floridian hispanics? If so, I'll eat my words."

Bush 2004.

Overall, Bush took 45% of Hispanics nationwide.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 11, 2012 02:52 PM (dX4hn)

148 If Raddatz' starts this interview off with Libya it could be all down hill for Choo Choo.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 11, 2012 02:53 PM (TMB3S)

149 Romney will win NJ. New York is in play. It's going to be brutal.
Posted by: Truman North at October 11, 2012 06:43 PM (I2LwF)

I'm in one of the redder counties in NY but not too far from NYC, and there is virtually no Obama support to be found, a far cry from 2008. Among my Obama voting friends from last time, most are either voting Romney or not voting. The few true liberals are voting against Romney. My work takes me to many small businesses during the course of the day, virtually none supporting Obama and many claim to have voted him last time. Obama will still probably win, but it's gonna be a hell of a lot closer.

Posted by: mugiwara at October 11, 2012 02:53 PM (XT2y5)

150

143 "the invasive fleeing Californian species is a particularly nasty parasite"

help... me... I'm.... dying....

Posted by: SF Bay Area and greater Los Angeles at October 11, 2012 02:54 PM (wAQA5)

151 >>I'm starting to think they don't have anything else to launch against Romney. They don't. Look what they ran on last time, Hope and Change. Obama had built such a cult of personality he even got away with saying he was going to cause peoples electric bills to skyrocket and he won in a walk. Now he has a record, a very, very bad record. All he can do is try and slime Romney and Ryan.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 11, 2012 02:55 PM (TMB3S)

152 Let's not forget (if no one has mentioned this previously and I missed it) that the majority of Hispanics in Florida or Cuban refugees. In other words, the kind of people who have seen Obama's "vision" up close and personal. Needless to say, what sounds fantastic in an air-conditioned faculty office doesn't quite pass the reality test. Cuban immigrants are not fooled by agitprop like Hope N' Change.

Posted by: The Ghost of Flannery O'Connor at October 11, 2012 02:55 PM (mMtFx)

153

"136 Romney will win NJ. New York is in play. It's going to be brutal."

OK, I'm getting as optimistic as the next guy, but NY? That's crazy-talk!

That being said, I'm in the reddest Congressional district in NY, and I'm seeing very few signs. But I've seen so few Obama signs, that I couldn't tell you what they look like.

Posted by: Optimizer at October 11, 2012 02:56 PM (As94z)

154 154 143 "the invasive fleeing Californian species is a particularly nasty parasite" *** Another thing I noticed in flyover country, midwest, pacific states is that marijuana legalization leads to an infestation of dirty disgusting hippies.

Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 11, 2012 02:58 PM (QxSug)

155 "Oregon last I heard was O+8"

Romney internals had Oregon at O+3 before the debate.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 11, 2012 02:59 PM (dX4hn)

156 Posted by: bluerose75 at October 11, 2012 06:43 PM (HDcKc)

Polling does cost more than most people realize, but bear in mind anything we read publicly has been released for publication. I have no doubt at all that there will continue to be massive amounts of polling in all swing states, whether publicly released or not.

Posted by: Mayday at October 11, 2012 03:00 PM (F3s39)

157 Florida, my current and home state, always seem to flip to the winner. Somebody help me out, when was the last time Florida went to the loser?

****

1992

http://www.270towin.com/states/Florida

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 11, 2012 03:00 PM (piMMO)

158 I would like to see the map going R and R with the exception of the media centers of New York and California.

Posted by: Mountains Landbarons and Serfs at October 11, 2012 03:02 PM (Xx7iB)

159 Was it here that I read that Axelrod had to bolt to Delaware because Biden was doing so lamely in his debate prep?

My prayers for the first debate were for strength and focus for Romney and confusion for Obama. My prayers for tonight for Ryan are the same but I've added "may his evil and corrupt tongue cleave to the roof of his mouth" for Biden. It just seemed to fit.

Posted by: 56 and loving RR at October 11, 2012 03:03 PM (9zugO)

160 I know from Texas Michael Berry (Houston radio guy) has a big group headed to FL in a few weeks to help with GOTV. Robin Armstrong, the national committeman to RNC from Texas has a group going to OH. Reinforcements are on the way.

Posted by: SouthCounty at October 11, 2012 03:03 PM (6CSR9)

161
But Intrade has Obama up by 20%!!!!!!

Posted by: In before the troll at October 11, 2012 03:09 PM (TIIx5)

162 Ok, here is where I think things stand. Keep in mind, this assumes things stay about as they are now. If Obama catches a tailwind somehow, things could change.

FL, NC, and VA are now in Romney's column. He is ahead by enough that unlimited commercials can't swing them back to Obama.

IA is almost in Romney's column and NH and CO are tied. Obama is leading in NV, OR, WI, MI, and PA.

But it all comes down to OH. Romney is leading there by about 3, but it is a must win for Obama (it isn't for Romney). It is the hill that Obama will die on.

If Romney wins OH and IA, CO, or NH, he wins.

Obama will never admit to pulling out of FL, NC, or VA, and will keep doing events in VA. He can't afford to let people think he is giving up on any state.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 11, 2012 03:14 PM (dX4hn)

163 McMahon (R) vs Murphy (D) CT Senatorial debate on TV right now. Murphy is such a freaking douche!

Posted by: Red an Bluestate at October 11, 2012 03:18 PM (sRIFP)

164

Obama and the democrats are big S socialists. Unless you're a dumbass democrat idiot who has no idea about the origins and history of big S socialism.

Posted by: Fresh at October 11, 2012 03:22 PM (O7ksG)

165 CT will be a lot closer this time around. Not many visible signs of support for Barky this time around. Our street was loaded with O signs in 2008. This time there are no signs. They may still vote for this SCOAMF, but they are outwardly promoting in 2012. If it is like this in CT, Romney will win Ohio, and kick butt in all of the swing states.

Posted by: Redman Bluestate at October 11, 2012 03:29 PM (sRIFP)

166 The two I've heard pounding away at the need to call Obama out as a Liberal, indeed the Biggest Baddest Liberal of All, are Bill Kristol and Charles Krauthammer.

Posted by: Chipperoo at October 11, 2012 03:30 PM (6c62F)

167 FL Hispanics != national average Hispanics. The Cubans have always trended Republican...because they really understand what leftists are all about.

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 11, 2012 03:31 PM (OQNdB)

168 This one has a women who aborted her baby on it, saying it was her private decision.

Posted by: Jean at October 11, 2012 06:40 PM (u5ozF)

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Then she can do it with her private money. Not mine. Unless I get a say in the decision, I don't pay for it.

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 11, 2012 03:34 PM (P6QsQ)

169 There is a new Virginia poll out from McLaughlin and Associates that shows Romney leading 51-44 in Virginia and Allen leading Kaine 49-44.

http://images.politico.com/global/2012/10/allencampaign_pollmemo_10-10-12.html

Posted by: Isophorone at October 11, 2012 04:09 PM (m/Ana)

170 We will win Ohio.

Posted by: Honey Badger @robfit at October 11, 2012 04:11 PM (zEeUf)

171 Northern Virginia resident here. I had a massive heart attack last weekend. Died on the table, all of it. But you know what? I'll stand, and my family will if I need them, in the voting line all damn day to vote this human stain out of office.

Posted by: Steve Johnson at October 11, 2012 04:50 PM (2IYWT)

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