April 18, 2012

IT BEGINS- OBAMA/ROMNEY TIED...
— CAC

IN PENNSYLVANIA.

45% each. Full poll results should be out this evening, but the first poll out of the state of Pennsylvania since the general election began...shows what I have been screaming for months, but on doctor's orders have begun to just repeatedly mumble over and over and over again. It really, really, really is up for grabs. This year, we break Lucy's kneecaps, then kick the football.

Bonus because I love you guys, a map showing what everything boils down to:

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Posted by: CAC at 11:54 AM | Comments (182)
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1 SUCK IT, GREG

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 18, 2012 11:57 AM (Ck8hC)

2
CAC, you better be right. Or the torch-carrying mob will turn on you first in November.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 18, 2012 11:58 AM (G/zuv)

3 I smell a landslide.

Posted by: Jimmah at April 18, 2012 11:59 AM (UpwlP)

4 >>This year, we break Lucy's kneecaps, then kick the football.

That's hawt.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at April 18, 2012 11:59 AM (/kI1Q)

5 Is this before or after he eats the yellow dogs?

Posted by: Al at April 18, 2012 11:59 AM (MzQOZ)

6 "This year, we break Lucy's kneecaps, then kick the football."

Kick it square up her ass and make her waddle home.

Posted by: ryukyu at April 18, 2012 12:00 PM (MOHSR)

7 OT, I couldn't help myself. I put together a "Hitler Finds Out Obama Ate His Dog" video. http://tinyurl.com/7qg2m5c

Posted by: jakeman at April 18, 2012 12:00 PM (96M6e)

8 Eh, it's within the margin of fraud.

Posted by: Big McLargeHuge at April 18, 2012 12:00 PM (XTy5s)

9 I live here and I will tell you naysayers again, Obama LOSES Pennsylvania.

Posted by: Marie at April 18, 2012 12:02 PM (H50jQ)

10 Shit just got real. Release the hounds of hell

Posted by: thunderb at April 18, 2012 12:02 PM (twZ5W)

11 Need I even say it?

Posted by: Winston Wolf at April 18, 2012 12:02 PM (WDySP)

12 Lucy is about to find out that Charlie Brown grew over the summer...

Posted by: Charlie Brown at April 18, 2012 12:02 PM (FcR7P)

13 What do you think pollsters would do if they got a real job? Telemarketer? Glory hole attendent?

Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at April 18, 2012 12:02 PM (NVu2l)

14 So it begins:  PREFERENCE CASCADE 2012


 own it, bitches.  Own the pain; the agony of defeat; the misery of failure


I can see 1980 from my house !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 18, 2012 12:02 PM (Dll6b)

15
But Intrade has Obama up by 20%!!!!!!!







With poll threads, it appears to be feast or famine.......

Posted by: In before the troll at April 18, 2012 12:03 PM (tQoT4)

16 Pennsylvania doesn't want Ted Nugent to die?  Good on Pennsylvania.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 18, 2012 12:03 PM (TOk1P)

17 Thar she blows! We'll take the Great White whale down this time me hardies!

Posted by: Captain Ahab at April 18, 2012 12:03 PM (aQ3++)

18
Is Romney up for the challenge?

Who is his team? I don't even know, but I should, I guess. Does Mitt have the right people around him? I hope so.


Posted by: Soothsayer at April 18, 2012 12:03 PM (G/zuv)

19 Ok, then what's up with intrade racheting up the odds of an Obama win? Romney is clearly going into next month at minimum with a slight polling advantage, and yet intrade keeps swearing an Obama win is more and more likely.

Posted by: argh at April 18, 2012 12:03 PM (/Kqvx)

20

Pittsburgh is oot.

Pittsburgh is oot!?

Posted by: Canadian Talking Head at April 18, 2012 12:03 PM (cupv8)

21 "This year, we break Lucy's kneecaps, then kick the football." -- AHA!!!!! The War on Women continues.

Posted by: DRH at April 18, 2012 12:03 PM (xFoDt)

22 Obama delenda est.
And for good measure, rinos must die.

Posted by: real joe at April 18, 2012 12:03 PM (B+j5V)

23 We have found out where they buried Cheney's heart.

Posted by: thunderb at April 18, 2012 12:04 PM (twZ5W)

24 Oh it's in play. But polls better have Romney up by 3-5% just before election day or voter fraud in Philly will more than make up any smaller margin.

Posted by: Rocks at April 18, 2012 12:04 PM (Q1lie)

25 This is still the middle of April.  I can't get excited about any  poll right now....not that I've been excited about any poll ever (except, perhaps the one that will be done in Nov.).

Posted by: Soona at April 18, 2012 12:04 PM (HFycL)

26 I want to believe.  I really do. 

Posted by: Anony at April 18, 2012 12:04 PM (qiXMt)

27 Don't think we aren't keeping score, brother.

Posted by: Latter-Day Subgenius at April 18, 2012 12:04 PM (3ZtZW)

28 If PA flips red, there is every possibility that I may be drunk for months from joy.

Posted by: alexthechick at April 18, 2012 12:05 PM (VtjlW)

29 Does this call for a Snoopy Dance?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at April 18, 2012 12:06 PM (L3rzp)

30 nobody is sucking anyone's anything, Winston.  What we is doing is finally getting a true sense of what is likely.  The only thing that bothers me is the knowledge that half of American adults are living in the Govt's Dime


( not a silver dime, but..........)


People vote their perceived self-interest, and for too many people the 'self-interest' is not reducing the amount on that greenish govt check

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 18, 2012 12:06 PM (Dll6b)

31 This year, we break Lucy's kneecaps, then kick the football.

That doesn't account for the phenomenon of knee pads, now does it?

Posted by: Lucy, glaring menacingly at April 18, 2012 12:06 PM (RD7QR)

32 ON the govt's dime.   ON ( not the bird ) is the word

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 18, 2012 12:07 PM (Dll6b)

33 The Dem canine vote has collapsed in recent days.

Posted by: Cicero at April 18, 2012 12:07 PM (QKKT0)

34 I hope so.


Posted by: Soothsayer
--------------------

Who is "I"?

Posted by: arhooley hates morons who hate ambiguous pronouns at April 18, 2012 12:08 PM (Kn3ys)

35 ♫Ohhhhh Greggie♫


Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at April 18, 2012 12:08 PM (0q2P7)

36 bird, bird, bird, bird is the word.................


everybody's talkin about the bird is the word

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 18, 2012 12:08 PM (Dll6b)

37 Good job, Jakeman!

Posted by: kathysaysso at April 18, 2012 12:09 PM (ZtwUX)

38

CAC,

I think this deserves a big ass margin busting map.

Posted by: tsrblke at April 18, 2012 12:09 PM (SYrwI)

39 It's about time that the state polling begins to match national polling.  Until now, Romney has been significantly lagging behind in the swing state polling.

As for Intrade, it is usually a lagging indicator.  As I said, much of the swing state polling has been disastrous for Romney up to this point.  And some national polls still show Obama ahead.

Posted by: cinyc at April 18, 2012 12:09 PM (Hab/c)

40 I don't know if I'm supposed to  be happy about this until I hear from JeffB.

Posted by: Soona at April 18, 2012 12:10 PM (HFycL)

41 Thanks, kathysaysso! I'm sure I just put myself on a list somewhere, but it was worth it.

Posted by: jakeman at April 18, 2012 12:10 PM (96M6e)

42 "This year, we break Lucy's kneecaps, then kick the football." -- AHA!!!!! The War on Women continues.

Yeah? Lucy doesn't know how good she has it.

Posted by: Snoopy at April 18, 2012 12:10 PM (ZGREa)

43 She ain't getting 5 cents for her advice either.

Posted by: Charlie F***ing Brown at April 18, 2012 12:10 PM (71LDo)

44 not too be indiscreet ( especially to Hot Air-reading Allahpundit eeyores ) but Pittsburgh is 85 % White.  The second-palest large city in the USA


Unions yobs have a lot of clout, but not You Know Who / they who must not be referenced / People of Holder

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 18, 2012 12:11 PM (Dll6b)

45 But what does Mr. Wolfe have to say?

Posted by: GuyfromNH at April 18, 2012 12:11 PM (YOe1f)

46

Posted by: cinyc at April 18, 2012 04:09 PM (Hab/c)

So you're saying I should learn to use intrade, buy some Romney stock and go to town?

Posted by: tsrblke at April 18, 2012 12:11 PM (SYrwI)

47

I know people want to get excited, and I don't want to rain on anyone's cornflakes, but the Odog's Administration has been like a plague of locusts.  Even if you kill them off after four years of eating your crops, you still have to get rid of the locust carcassi, then replant your crops. 

 

Now, back to our regularly scheduled Romney cheerleaders' practice, or football kicking or whatever. 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 18, 2012 12:12 PM (TOk1P)

48

Let not mow each others lawns just yet.

Posted by: dananjcon at April 18, 2012 12:13 PM (eavT+)

49
Who is "I"?

whom

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 18, 2012 12:13 PM (G/zuv)

50 Love to see it happen, but I think the 52%ers, cartoon characters and dead people outnumber the bitter clingers in that state.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at April 18, 2012 12:13 PM (ZGREa)

51

Is Romney up for the challenge?

Who is his team? I don't even know, but I should, I guess. Does Mitt have the right people around him? I hope so.

 

 
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 18, 2012 04:03 PM (G/zuv)

The primary vote in Virgina indicates that, yes.  He and uncle crazypants were the only ones on the ballot.  That was what sold me on him: he did his homework and didn't leave it to chance.  That says he will plod along and not make any huge mistakes.  Since Obama cannot run onhis record, he must hope Mitt says something so outlandish or can be demonized so completly that Obama wins by default.

Someone who does his homework knows the answers to the questions come test-time.

 

(What that said about uncle crazy-pants, I dunno...)

Posted by: Warthog at April 18, 2012 12:13 PM (WDySP)

52 In a world where Pennsylvania may just vote Red...

One man sets out on a quest to break a little girl's knee caps and steal her ball

Mitt Romney in

Peanuts 12
This Time Charley Brown Gets Medieval on Your Ass

Posted by: Dramatic Voice Guy at April 18, 2012 12:14 PM (MJ76f)

53

What a fucked up choice. I'll vote for Romney because I know he knows capitalism is in his best interest, whereas Zero benfits for the death of America's greatness.

 

But it still sucks.

Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at April 18, 2012 12:15 PM (NVu2l)

54 That's what you think.    Chuck thought FER SHER this time, he'd kick it.
What happened?    That what I thought.

Posted by: Lucy at April 18, 2012 12:15 PM (v1uZf)

55 Now, back to our regularly scheduled Romney cheerleaders' practice, or football kicking or whatever.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 18, 2012 04:12 PM (TOk1P)


but previous polls did not distress you, or engender talk of plagues / locusts ??


this trend is real, and only delayed by an uber-vicious Repub primary Thunderdrome.  Of course it's early, but it's a beginning.  --a good one

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 18, 2012 12:15 PM (Dll6b)

56

When I see the polls in NY and/or CA as close as this, then I'll get excited.

Posted by: Soona at April 18, 2012 12:16 PM (HFycL)

57 CAC -- there are some guys pushing a poll that shows NY very soft for Obama - and in some scenarios going Red.  Now, these guys are looking for funds to make it happen, but ....

Posted by: Jean at April 18, 2012 12:17 PM (WkuV6)

58

56 -

 

Anytime I see any reference to a poll, I remember that I don't have a house phone.  So no, I don't get worked up about any of them.  They may be representative of something, but it ain't me. 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 18, 2012 12:17 PM (TOk1P)

59 Ask and ye shall be answered, Soona.  I did not see your post first.

Posted by: Jean at April 18, 2012 12:17 PM (WkuV6)

60 Can we get some Thrusting Ewok?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at April 18, 2012 12:18 PM (/kI1Q)

61 When I see the polls in NY and/or CA as close as this, then I'll get excited.

Posted by: Soona at April 18, 2012 04:16 PM (HFycL)


right:  Sure, Romney needs those states to win.  Sure he does.........


and of course, if a team doesn't score every point, it's not a victory



Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 18, 2012 12:18 PM (Dll6b)

62 Soothsayer is supposed to point out that there's a new post up.

Posted by: jwb7605 at April 18, 2012 12:18 PM (Qxe/p)

63 Lets not swap wives just yet.

Posted by: Fritz Peterson at April 18, 2012 12:19 PM (eavT+)

64 When does that abortion doctor go on trial in Philly?

Posted by: Jean at April 18, 2012 12:19 PM (WkuV6)

65 Here is the deal. This year people will be out in force voting AGAINST Obama. Mitt will be the recipient of these votes, barring a 3rd party run by someone like Luap Nor. It is going to be a landslide that is going to crush obama. Count it.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 18, 2012 12:19 PM (jucos)

66 Charlie Brown needs to sidestep to the right and pop Lucy right in the cooter.

Posted by: nickless at April 18, 2012 12:20 PM (MMC8r)

67 I'm not 'worked up' or 'excited'.  I'm somewhat relieved and increasingly determined.  What's happening now is overdue


you boys should stick to reading Allah at Hot Air.  Debbie Downer, 24 / 7



Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 18, 2012 12:20 PM (Dll6b)

68 42 Thanks, kathysaysso! I'm sure I just put myself on a list somewhere, but it was worth it.

Posted by: jakeman at April 18, 2012 04:10 PM (96M6e)

Every single moron is on a hit list somewhere. 

Posted by: kathysaysso at April 18, 2012 12:21 PM (ZtwUX)

69 right: Sure, Romney needs those states to win. Sure he does.........
and of course, if a team doesn't score every point, it's not a victory

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 18, 2012 04:18 PM (Dll6b)

 

-----------------------------------------

 

  I still have a lot of leftover cynicism from 2008. 

Posted by: Soona at April 18, 2012 12:21 PM (HFycL)

70 11 Shit just got real. Release the hounds of hell   ---   They sound delicious, and spicy

Posted by: Barack at April 18, 2012 12:22 PM (3Zo6I)

71 CAC, you can safely shade in Westmoreland County out west red.  Was 58% for McCain, 61% for Toomey

Posted by: Chris P at April 18, 2012 12:22 PM (LuvqF)

72 Pittsburg is full retard?

Posted by: Dagny, Warrior Queen at April 18, 2012 12:23 PM (4yXmp)

73

64 -

 

Easy for you to say. 

Posted by: Mike Kekich at April 18, 2012 12:23 PM (TOk1P)

74 I will believe it when I see it. But I like the map.

Posted by: JAFKIAC at April 18, 2012 12:24 PM (Rb0Fy)

75 Wait'll Michael Vick endorses Barry

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 18, 2012 12:24 PM (3Zo6I)

76 We are very close to a preference cascade.  I think people are realizing that Obama just isn't cool anymore.  The Obama dog story got a lot less chiding from the usual suspects (RINOs and "don't make independents angry" scaredy-cons) than I expected.

It's lame to be an Obama sycophant now and as people see that others feel the same way, it'll get louder.

And the Dems will be spending 6 months defending their dynamic duo.

Oh, they'll be hatin' life.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 18, 2012 12:25 PM (T0NGe)

77 That's a whole lottah red.  We can expect "enthusiastic turnout" in Killadelphia.

Posted by: Paul Revere at April 18, 2012 12:25 PM (iqtXM)

78 30 Does this call for a Snoopy Dance?   ----
Snoopy, the OTHER other white meat

Posted by: Barry at April 18, 2012 12:25 PM (3Zo6I)

79 So Joe ate paint chips and I ate 101 Dalmatians. What's the dif?

Posted by: Prez SCOAM(dog eating)F at April 18, 2012 12:26 PM (yWfMC)

80
I still have a lot of leftover cynicism from 2008.

Posted by: Soona at April 18, 2012 04:21 PM (HFycL)



is it 2008?  ---No?  Well, then..........


Romney ain't Reagan, but Baraka ain't Clinton and I don' see no Ross Perot


Romney ain't McCain, either. He could screw this up ( like the Cowboys in every other game last season ), but............then again he might just do fine

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 18, 2012 12:26 PM (Dll6b)

81 46 But what does Mr. Wolfe have to say?   ----   So a wolf is like some kinda big dog, right?

Posted by: Barry at April 18, 2012 12:26 PM (3Zo6I)

82 29 If PA flips red, there is every possibility that I may be drunk for months from joy.   ---   If it goes RED, we can go to sleep early, and sleep ever so soundly.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 18, 2012 12:27 PM (3Zo6I)

83 Mr. Wolf   =   full course Indonesian dinner

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 18, 2012 12:27 PM (Dll6b)

84 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at April 18, 2012 12:28 PM (7W3wI)

85 Map isn't a fantasy, it reflects the swing regions critical for Romney. Pittsburgh AREA was a sea of red for McCain and Toomey, it's voters are similar to those in Northeastern PA. The Philly Burbs are critical. They hold far more votes than Philly itself, so eking out a narrow lead there or trailing narrowly would be enough to buffer Philadelphia, fraud or no fraud.. Toomey survived (barely) by carrying the region by the skin of his teeth.

Posted by: C A C at April 18, 2012 12:29 PM (J0ZB6)

86

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 18, 2012 04:27 PM (3Zo6I)

If it goes read I refuse to sleep on principle or watching shit get real. (Also dancing around all my democratic friends going "nananabooboo" until my wife punches me for upsetting her.)

Posted by: tsrblke at April 18, 2012 12:29 PM (SYrwI)

87 Did Corbett and the GOP legislature put Voter ID law in place?

Posted by: Uncledave at April 18, 2012 12:29 PM (nJ32z)

88 We need to plan ahead as to what we are going to do to all the traitorous leftist scum when we get Mitt elected. We need to go after everyone of the scum who runs the left from behind the curtain, Soros and the rest of the assorted fellow travelers. We need to bring them to trial and that includes leftwing judges to and try them for treason. In short we need to demand and get some scalps from these bastards.

Posted by: southdakotaboy at April 18, 2012 12:29 PM (Ur6Wj)

89 73 Pittsburg is full retard?

Pittsburgh is the last bastion of old union Democrat.  Lots of corrupt backscratching in city government.

A bunch of retired union steelworkers who can't figure out why their kids have moved away.

I actually would not be shocked if it underwent the biggest shift in the state.  Pittsburgh really isn't in touch with today's Marxist Democrats.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 18, 2012 12:29 PM (T0NGe)

90

68 -

 

I don't read Allah.  Haven't really paid any attention to him since he stopped doing photoshops of the D primary season back in '04. 

 

I just don't pay any attention to polls at this point.  I'll tell anyone who asks that I believe Obama will lose this November, and it's been fairly clear that would be the case for some time now. 

 

Romney is like that new dolly you bought for your 4 year old, you wrap it up, put it under the tree, then tell her not to open it until November 6.  She might get excited to see the shiny paper from now until November 6, and when she opens it, her heart leaps for joy.  But you knew it was a dolly since November of 2010!  Possibly even November '08.   So no, not excited. 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 18, 2012 12:31 PM (TOk1P)

91 It's lame to be an Obama sycophant now and as people see that others feel the same way, it'll get louder.

And the Dems will be spending 6 months defending their dynamic duo.

Oh, they'll be hatin' life.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 18, 2012 04:25 PM (T0NGe)

**

Yes...Obama was/is a fad. Created for the feckless massess. Like so many pet rocks, hoola-hoops and flourescent hobo sheers another triviality has seen its time.

Posted by: dananjcon at April 18, 2012 12:31 PM (eavT+)

92 PA. Full of unemployed, dog-owning bitter clingers.

Posted by: MostlyRight at April 18, 2012 12:31 PM (ZG8Ti)

93 Every six days, another trip to Wawa for gas. Another post-it note on the pump thanking the eater

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 18, 2012 12:32 PM (3Zo6I)

94

True Story

Nationally renowned BIG BOX retailer tells us that they think it is their best interest to cave in to UNION pressure and do construction contracts in Allegheny County ALL UNION.  We bid the job today and only get ONE bid from a Union carpenter firm from another county.

SUCK IT BIG BOX RETAILER!

For those of you from other states, Allegheny County is the red blob over in the west.  Pittsburgh and it's suburbs.

By the way - Pittsburgh has been under Democrat Party rule since forever and is in state receivership.

 

 

Posted by: MountainMonkey at April 18, 2012 12:33 PM (cgxNI)

95

I'm in one of the blue counties right below Philly. Delaware County was solid red for so many years, but since we have been blessed (?) with a deluge of Philly escapees, they have swung the vote to dems. The only hope here to go red is the disaffected Indy vote.

Posted by: kallisto at April 18, 2012 12:33 PM (jm/9g)

96 After watching "Tow Wars" or whatever the hell they call that show, seeing all of the seized cars, and the owners having to fork over hundreds of dollars and an act of congress to get their car back, I never want to go near that state.

Posted by: Jimmah at April 18, 2012 12:34 PM (UpwlP)

97 Lets not plan a moron meet-up at Primanti's just yet.

Posted by: dananjcon at April 18, 2012 12:35 PM (eavT+)

98 "14 What do you think pollsters would do if they got a real job? Telemarketer? Glory hole attendent participant?"


Posted by: slug at April 18, 2012 12:36 PM (JPc/J)

99

89 -

 

To the scaffolds, the guillotine awaits!!

Posted by: Robespierre at April 18, 2012 12:36 PM (TOk1P)

100 99 - damn formatting.

Posted by: slug at April 18, 2012 12:37 PM (JPc/J)

101 For those of you from other states, Allegheny County is the red blob over in the west. Pittsburgh and it's suburbs.
By the way - Pittsburgh has been under Democrat Party rule since forever and is in state receivership.

Posted by: MountainMonkey at April 18, 2012 04:33 PM (cgxNI)


I do believe that you mean the blue blob in the west.  Home of union goons.  I'm from Washington county and we're gray for some reason. 

Posted by: Hedgehog at April 18, 2012 12:37 PM (3jGS1)

102 Everyone grab their beads (or something else they like to grab) and start rubbing.

Preference cascade
Preference cascade
Preference cascade
Preference cascade

Really, fence-sitters, you CAN vote for Romney...it's the OTHER guy who bites the heads off puppies.   He said so himself.

Posted by: JEM at April 18, 2012 12:38 PM (o+SC1)

103 CAC, have you got county-level data? I'm curious about how Montgomery and Bucks are breaking, since they'll be crucial.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at April 18, 2012 12:40 PM (RD7QR)

104 While a lot can happen between now and November, (to help and to harm Romney), being able to flip Bucks County would probably be enough to flip PA if the rest of the map holds constant.

Toomey also lost Philadelphia, MontCo, DelCo and Allegheny, but carried Bucks and 3/4 of the "toss up" Pittsburgh 'burbs up there on CAC's map.

A slam dunk? No way. Attainable? Tantalizingly so.

NB: If PA is a dead heat right now, what does that say about Wisconsin? Iowa? Nevada? North Carolina? Virginia?

Game on!

Posted by: GOPPartyReptile at April 18, 2012 12:42 PM (PcQz0)

105 Pennsyltucky!

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 18, 2012 12:42 PM (jucos)

106 And P-Burgh is actually a pretty nice city, as Eastern cities go. Cleaned up nice since the steel town days. Still a bit hilly and cold for my taste.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at April 18, 2012 12:42 PM (RD7QR)

107 I'm looking at this calendar here and.....ya know what, it says it's still April.
Now if I'm not mistaken, that makes 6, almost 7 months till the big day....
We're not gonna lose our heads.....are we gentlemen?


Posted by: Winston Wolf at April 18, 2012 12:44 PM (v1uZf)

108 We are very close to a preference cascade. .... The Obama dog story got a lot less chiding from the usual suspects (RINOs and "don't make independents angry" scaredy-cons) than I expected.


Posted by: AmishDude at April 18, 2012 04:25 PM (T0NGe)

----------------->

Right you are; most people want Obama gone!   Hell, my 94 year-old life-long Democrat grandmother is voting for Romney.  The United States has endured almost four years of dumbfuckery from Obama:  the economy still sucks, people still can't find work and the housing market isstill collapsing -- they want this living nighmare over.

>

>The reaction by the "Morning Joe" crew was very telling.  They were howling with laughter and making fun of the topic.  They certainly weren't defending Obama or criticizing Romney.  At the end of the clip, they showed a photo of a brown dog (Seamus?) and you heard someone in the background amid all the laughing, I think it was Robert Reich, say the picture made him hungry.

>

>Last week (?) you had Lanny Davis make a comment that he was a "Clinton Democrat" and the national debt was immoral when he was  on the Sean Hannity show.  Times are a-changin' for the SCOAMF.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at April 18, 2012 12:44 PM (M0NzJ)

109 It's so obvious that CAC used scab labor to make that map. That won't make the mobs happy....

Posted by: Int'l Cartographers Union at April 18, 2012 12:46 PM (WQxVv)

110 CAC, have you got county-level data? I'm curious about how Montgomery and Bucks are breaking, since they'll be crucial. Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at April 18, 2012 04:40 PM (RD7QR) SUSQ will have the full poll in an hour or so on their site. They don't break down by county, rather by region.

Posted by: C A C at April 18, 2012 12:46 PM (J0ZB6)

111 Ya see that blue POS in the top right? I'm just inside the top left of that shit-hole. Scranton/Wilkes-barre. Fuckin' Uni-brow Caseyville

Posted by: hutch1200 at April 18, 2012 12:48 PM (CKFUE)

112 107 And P-Burgh is actually a pretty nice city, as Eastern cities go. Cleaned up nice since the steel town days. Still a bit hilly and cold for my taste.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at April 18, 2012 04:42 PM (RD7QR)


I grew up just south of Pittsburgh and now live in Baltimore.  I have always thought of Pittsburgh as more of a midwestern city than an eastern one.  Once you cross the Appalachian mountains everything is different.  People are nicer for one. 

Posted by: Hedgehog at April 18, 2012 12:49 PM (3jGS1)

113

That map is exactly why the state GOP was kicking around dividing the Electoral Votes by district.

 

Anyway, I live in Philly. There are still street vendors sellling photos of the first family. Zero will get the AA vote no problem. But many of the union, owrking class white guys who followed tgheir leadership into the abyss will definitely not be. Don't know if they'll vote Romney, they'll probably not vote at all.

 

It probably depends on whether a court overturns the new voter ID law or not. The ACLU and the rest of teh usual suspects are about to take it to court.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at April 18, 2012 12:50 PM (YmPwQ)

114

Blue blob - red blob....

 

I'm color blind!

Posted by: MountainMonkey at April 18, 2012 12:50 PM (cgxNI)

115 Sweet. I live in a red county!


Posted by: Sticky Wicket at April 18, 2012 12:51 PM (L7hol)

116 96 I'm in one of the blue counties right below Philly. Delaware County was solid red for so many years, but since we have been blessed (?) with a deluge of Philly escapees, they have swung the vote to dems. The only hope here to go red is the disaffected Indy vote.   ----   Hey neighbor. I'm right on the PA/DE border in Delco. Go trolling for those indies. Wonder when i can get my yard sign

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 18, 2012 12:54 PM (3Zo6I)

117 Pudding futures are buy, buy, buy!

Posted by: Emperor of Commodities Investment at April 18, 2012 12:54 PM (epBek)

118 I grew up just south of Pittsburgh and now live in Baltimore. I have always thought of Pittsburgh as more of a midwestern city than an eastern one. Once you cross the Appalachian mountains everything is different. People are nicer for one.

Posted by: Hedgehog at April 18, 2012 04:49 PM (3jGS1)


Ummm...you're in Balmer voluntarily? Anyway, yes, you're right about Pittsburgh being more Midwestern. My wife went to Carnegie-Mellon for a while and she says it felt more like Indianapolis than Philly.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at April 18, 2012 12:55 PM (RD7QR)

119 113 Apparently in Morgantown they are nice by day. If you give them a drink they turn beast. And will kill over a sports team? That's just too much.

Posted by: Dagny, Warrior Queen at April 18, 2012 12:55 PM (4yXmp)

120

Now i know why Lucy always wears blue.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 18, 2012 12:57 PM (3Zo6I)

121

117

*

 I caught a guy stealing my "W" sign off my lawn in 2004...funny, because it was AFTER the election. I asked him wtf he was doing, he said he was "keeping the street clean". When I reminded him that he was on my lawn, not the street, he just left. (yeah, I told him to get off my lawn)

 

From the stickers on his car, it looked like he was a GVHS teacher.

Posted by: kallisto at April 18, 2012 01:00 PM (jm/9g)

122 Barack Obama. As American as Dog Pot Pie and wack the head of the dead dog you just ate with a stick.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at April 18, 2012 01:00 PM (yWfMC)

123 The reaction by the "Morning Joe" crew was very telling. They were howling with laughter and making fun of the topic. They certainly weren't defending Obama or criticizing Romney. At the end of the clip, they showed a photo of a brown dog (Seamus?) and you heard someone in the background amid all the laughing, I think it was Robert Reich, say the picture made him hungry.
>
>Last week (?) you had Lanny Davis make a comment that he was a "Clinton Democrat" and the national debt was immoral when he was on the Sean Hannity show. Times are a-changin' for the SCOAMF.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at April 18, 2012 04:44 PM (M0NzJ)

 

-------------------------------------------------

 

These folks know what's coming.  They're trying to save their  inside-the-beltway careers.   Don't forget.  They were humping Baraka's leg up until just recently.  

Posted by: Soona at April 18, 2012 01:03 PM (HFycL)

124 The key is in Washington & Fayette counties outside Pittsburgh.

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at April 18, 2012 01:05 PM (BvTwT)

125 86 The Philly Burbs are critical. They hold far more votes than Philly itself Didn't you mean to say they hold far more voters than Philly itself?

Posted by: rickl supports SMOD/Supervolcano 2012 at April 18, 2012 01:06 PM (zoehZ)

126

Every Blue spot has been donk controlled forever. And under "Distressed City Staus". Basically recievorship. It works like this, a crew of consultants comes in. They advise against giving the fucking unions everything they want.  They get a smile, ignored, then burned out of their hotel rooms.

MY Sis-in-Law  still gets PAID.... while on STRIKE. They walked out over having a $5, vs $0, co-pay at the Docs office!

I took my boys to the barbershop today and there are still unemployed, but collecting unemp-comp, assholes that plan on voting for SCOAMF. The Repubs don't even try around here.

God it's lonely here!

Posted by: hutch1200 at April 18, 2012 01:07 PM (CKFUE)

127
No plaid on that map????

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 18, 2012 01:08 PM (tQoT4)

128 I'm sorry I ruined your Black Panther Party.

Posted by: mitt rombley at April 18, 2012 01:09 PM (evdj2)

129 Let's not start powdering out funnel cakes just yet, gentlemen.

Posted by: Winston Wolfe at April 18, 2012 01:11 PM (Aaxiu)

130 128
No plaid on that map????

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 18, 2012 05:08 PM (tQoT4)


We ditched Senator Scottish Law last cycle, dontchaknow?

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at April 18, 2012 01:12 PM (Aaxiu)

131 Pittsburgh has better beer than Indianapolis.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at April 18, 2012 01:12 PM (/kI1Q)

132 People are nicer for one. this is true, about Pittsburgh. I'm always sort of surprised, being from philly. ANeeeway. . . yes we passed Voter ID. Should make things interesting. I hope it holds up! We're also still reworking our damn districts after the census changes. That fight is pretty ugly

Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 18, 2012 01:12 PM (SB0V2)

133 hutch where are you? in a philly nabe or delco?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 18, 2012 01:13 PM (SB0V2)

134 FTDB:  Obama V Romney: 216/46/276

Isn't that a milestone?

Posted by: toby928 at April 18, 2012 01:13 PM (evdj2)

135 If Bucks and Montgomery counties go solid Red;then Lucy goes from kneecapped to turned into a golf tee.Sorry about the mixed sport metaphors. There should be a lot of dissatisfied voters in the Philadelphia suburbs. Now if the Reagan democrats in Pittsburgh get Mitten fever. Ouch. The Democrats will need more than the dead voting for them.Lucy goes from golf tee to scrapple.

Posted by: DrDrill at April 18, 2012 01:14 PM (yx92S)

136 8OT, I couldn't help myself. I put together a "Hitler Finds Out Obama Ate His Dog" video.

Posted by: jakeman at April 18, 2012 04:00 PM (96M6e)

 

 

Wonderful - well done! (The subtitles, not Fluffy.)

 

How do you put subtitles on a clip, anyway?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 18, 2012 01:16 PM (QA6Vm)

137 Balls, pudding. Pudding, balls.

Posted by: packsoldier at April 18, 2012 01:17 PM (G/brl)

138 @135 - I figure we need to be to 300 in a broad range of polls before we're beyond the margin of fraud.

When (fingers crossed) Obama loses we're gonna see a tantrum on the left like nothing this country's ever experienced.

Should the Obama Scourge be purged in November, some clever press organization (are you listening Tucker?) ought to have folks at DCA, BWI, etc. looking for cabinet and sub-cabinet bureaucrats leaving for extended overseas vacations in non-extraditable jurisdictions.


Posted by: JEM at April 18, 2012 01:17 PM (o+SC1)

139 I'm still a little stunned when I see my former homestead (Lawrence County, about 40 miles north of Pittsburgh) as a red county. I shouldn't but I am. Its mostly Democrat but its old school Democrat (i.e. they're not neo-Marxist shills). Lawrence County is similar to the rest of NW Pennsylvania, it has seen better days. The best days of my former homestead where the '90s, the 1890's. Anyway, Allegheny county will still go blue but it will be close. Again, the Democrats in PA hunt, fish, go to church, golf, etc. They would be shunned by the East and West coast Progs.

Posted by: stillers at April 18, 2012 01:17 PM (gFUz8)

140 May this be only the appetizer for a red canine-free feast in November.

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 18, 2012 01:19 PM (XvHmy)

141

When I see the polls in NY and/or CA as close as this, then I'll get excited.

 

 

Won't happen in CA unless Kim Jong-Un splits the Democrat vote.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 18, 2012 01:20 PM (QA6Vm)

142

From the stickers on his car, it looked like he was a GVHS teacher.

---

Oh Lord, We ARE neighbors. Got 2 kids in Garnet Valley now. 6th and 4th grades.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 18, 2012 01:22 PM (3Zo6I)

143 Jay Guevara, it's a snap: downfall.jfedor.org/create/

You just type into the fields and it generates the video. Pretty slick!

Posted by: jakeman at April 18, 2012 01:23 PM (96M6e)

144 Again, the Democrats in PA hunt, fish, go to church, golf, etc lots of formerly "dead" areas of central and western PA are being revitalized considerably by natural gas/shale drilling. I'm really excited by this, by the way. The changes I've seen up in Columbia County have been really heartening. People i've known my whole life who had to drive forever to get a crap job in Bloomsburg are able to work in good jobs now!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 18, 2012 01:23 PM (SB0V2)

145 The gray county (Luzerne) next to the blue county (Lackawanna) in the NE portion is my home town area.  It is up for grabs.  People back home are pissed off and unemployed.  I haven't heard a good word about SCOAMF from anyone.  They won't even admit they voted for him last time.  It is predominately Catholic and they are VERY upset about SCOAMF pushing the whole abortion/contraception subject.  They dumped Kanjorski the last election, they may go red.

Posted by: mpfs at April 18, 2012 01:26 PM (iYbLN)

146

@143

oh, probably see you at the track behind the library sometime.

 

true story: When my cousin first transferred from Chi to GVHS she had to take "corrective action" against the snooty girls PDQ...but that was so long ago, she's a respectable married lady now.

 

haha

Posted by: kallisto at April 18, 2012 01:27 PM (jm/9g)

147 Not bad for Mittens considering the ads against him that have been running in the GOP clusterprimary.  Obama and the 'rats--known quantities--are in a world of hurt.  That said, way too early to ________each other's__________[fill in blanks]

Posted by: eureka! at April 18, 2012 01:28 PM (81yf8)

148 If Bucks goes red its over for SCOAMF.

Posted by: mpfs at April 18, 2012 01:28 PM (iYbLN)

149 Bucks won't go red - too many lawyers

Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 18, 2012 01:30 PM (SB0V2)

150 All youse in Garnet Valley - is Booths Corners still worth a visit?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 18, 2012 01:31 PM (SB0V2)

151 I'd like to know why Erie County is blue. Its pretty rural up there.

Posted by: stillers at April 18, 2012 01:31 PM (gFUz8)

152 150
 True.  I had forgotten about the lawyers.  Probably trial lawyers too.

Posted by: mpfs at April 18, 2012 01:31 PM (iYbLN)

153 152

One word: unions.

Posted by: mpfs at April 18, 2012 01:31 PM (iYbLN)

154 The Catholics in Luzerne county will vote against SCOAMF.  These are the people who go to Mass and listen to the Church for the most part.  They also get a lot of New York City news and coverage so they hear quite a bit about Cardinal Timothy Dolan.  He is very popular and people listen to him.  I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes Pope one day.

Posted by: mpfs at April 18, 2012 01:35 PM (iYbLN)

155 hutch where are you? in a philly nabe or delco?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 18, 2012 05:13

No outside Scranton.

And I don't see Luzerne county going RED. Sorry, too many ballots already filled out! Like Lackawanna County.

Posted by: hutch1200 at April 18, 2012 01:36 PM (CKFUE)

156 hutch,

I think its 55/45 it will go red. 

Crossing my fingers.  They did dump Kanjorski so that's a plus.

Posted by: mpfs at April 18, 2012 01:40 PM (iYbLN)

157 I am very worried about my recent two week long euphoria in anticipation of November.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky ABO 2012 at April 18, 2012 01:41 PM (baL2B)

158

osted by: jakeman at April 18, 2012 05:23 PM (96M6e)

 

 

Thanks, jakeman!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 18, 2012 01:44 PM (QA6Vm)

159

151

girl don't even start me.

 

"If you like Greek food, you can keep your greek food."

 

Seriously there's a stand that has great greek take-out: spanakopita, all kinds of gyros, so good. Lots of other great take-out, like Cajun Kate's, the guy who owns the stand worked for Emeril in NOLA, great pretzels made by Amish, too bad it's only open Fri-Sat. It can get rough at times but it looks like they're trying to keep the floors cleaner and if you want to avoid the crowds go early in the a.m.

Posted by: kallisto at April 18, 2012 01:47 PM (jm/9g)

160 Did they again overcount the Democrat votes?  
Did they count the Democrats in the heavily unbalanced districts?

Our Media has a habit of cheating as we all well know

EVEN ROMNEY has clued in on that trick

Posted by: Mitch Rapp at April 18, 2012 01:48 PM (MlDHN)

161 Crossing my fingers. They did dump Kanjorski so that's a plus.

Posted by: mpfs at April 18, 2012 05:40 PM (iYbLN)

True Dat! I actually thought they would have lumped Lack/Luz into the same color, whatever it may be. BTW, I've thought well of Barletta since I was working in Hazelton.

Posted by: hutch1200 at April 18, 2012 01:55 PM (CKFUE)

162 I'm in Bucks County and I've got my mind right.

Posted by: middyfeek at April 18, 2012 01:57 PM (Qi04R)

163 @ 162
      
        Do or did you live in the Clark's Summit/Abington Heights area?  Those are my old stomping grounds, is why I ask.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 18, 2012 02:01 PM (SAMxH)

164 No way Obama is going to come close of Westmoreland and Fayette. And Luzerne - that'll be interesting. Romney needs to flip WB around an probably will.  and Allegheny. I think BO only won that by about 40,000 last time and Corbett won it outright in 2010. Pittsburgh ain't so good to Democrats anymore.

Posted by: forest at April 18, 2012 02:05 PM (7RBBe)

165

 irongrampa at April 18, 2012 06:01

Yes Sir!

A Fitzgerald in 18411.

Posted by: hutch1200 at April 18, 2012 02:06 PM (CKFUE)

166

Socialism has ruined my home state of NY, so maybe I should move to PA, as my patriotic duty to help save the country from Obama.

 

The folks in PA have had 3+ years to reflect on what they did to us last time, 'round - maybe the birthplace of the Constitution will do better this time.

Posted by: Optimizer at April 18, 2012 02:07 PM (As94z)

167

Optimizer at April 18

I've always wanted to give Philly to Jersey, and let the rest of Pa join w/upsate NY. Provided NYC could be a state of its' own.

My gas tax obviously doesn't go for pothole repair, it goes for phillly/pitt subways. When I was in a Union..whatever philly wanted we walked for. Like MLK day off, screw that! Us pennsyltukians have no NBPP up here.

Posted by: hutch1200 at April 18, 2012 02:14 PM (CKFUE)

168 Is that blue patch in the NE Lackawanna County, home of Dunder-Mifflin?

Posted by: logprof at April 18, 2012 02:31 PM (ykSKg)

169 151 All youse in Garnet Valley - is Booths Corners still worth a visit?   ---- Wife says 'Yes it is!' Still full of Aimish

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 18, 2012 02:45 PM (3Zo6I)

170 FINISH HIM

Posted by: Crashpanic at April 18, 2012 03:12 PM (H7Nnh)

171 @169 logprof - Why yes it is. True blue idiots and damn proud of it. I am not inclined to believe that Luzerne Cty goes anything but blue. As was said above, too many ballots already filled out. Luzerne County is our own little slice of Chicago, right here in NEPA. I live north of both counties up in bright red Susquehanna County, home of the Endless Mountains, Marcellus Shale natural gas and LOTS of Republicans. I will say I think the folks in the northeast red counties have turned redder (more are going to vote and lots of blues won't vote Obama) due to the natural gas issue. People see the money coming in from shale gas and don't want SCOAMF killing the goose that laid the golden egg.

Posted by: pforeman at April 18, 2012 03:43 PM (h7ayO)

172 PA will be like NJ, where the state seems like it's in play until about a month before election day when Obama opens up a statistically significant lead. It's just the way it is.

Posted by: Greg at April 18, 2012 03:46 PM (J3Ovp)

173

logprof at April 18, 2012 06:31 PM

Yes indeed. And yes, the show could be live in any of the 7 businesses left here.

Posted by: hutch1200 at April 18, 2012 03:50 PM (CKFUE)

174

pforeman at April 18, 2012 07:43

You nailed it! My dads farm is just over the boarder in Wyoming county. And yes, he took the gas money! Clarks Summit USED to be a nice town. Solid Repubs on the borough Council since day 1. Until 1 donk got slid in on council, my mom! Now the fucking mayor, that mom put in, is a donk. Their legal screw ups have cost this town of 5500 over 3 million dollars in zoning mistakes/road closures(?) etc.. in 2 years. Over 3 mil, on top of the normal budget. That is how much they've been sued for, and lost.

Bill Scranton Jr was furious. Everybody moves out of Scranton 'cuz of high taxes/shitty services, then wants to turn it into the shithole they just left. Yes, I know it happens wherever these assholes go.

Posted by: hutch1200 at April 18, 2012 03:58 PM (CKFUE)

175

This is scranton

http://tinyurl.com/ag79fv

Posted by: hutch1200 at April 18, 2012 04:02 PM (CKFUE)

176 Good for your dad hutch! It is so nice to see so many good, hardworking people finally making a nice living. Too many "educated" folks have moved into Clarks Summit. You know the kind, those who think they are smarter than the rest of us. I've been reading about the trouble in Clarks Summit. People and businesses are leaving Scranton in droves, especially when they start passing stupid laws to do things like tax each parking spot owned by a non-city parking garage 15% each year. The people of Scranton and WB get what they deserve due to their idiotic voting, unfortunately they help drag the rest of us in the state down when it comes to Presidential elections. I hope to see Bobby Casey go down in flames too.

Posted by: pforeman at April 18, 2012 04:42 PM (h7ayO)

177 My lovely County of Cumberland is a nice shade of red, and so it shall remain.

Posted by: Todd at April 18, 2012 04:44 PM (3XQju)

178 Dauphin County should be blue. It's filled with obamabots and gov't workers who worship barry.

Posted by: lonestar at April 18, 2012 05:12 PM (HqAY9)

179 I am pleasantly surprised with all the relocated New Yawkers that the Lehigh Valley and Monroe County are showing as red on the map. Fuck Obama. That is all.

Posted by: Clete Orris at April 18, 2012 06:05 PM (JbIx8)

180 OK, maybe not the Lehigh Valley, but Monroe County as red? Old age has fucked with my memory and comprehension.

Posted by: Clete Orris at April 18, 2012 06:06 PM (JbIx8)

181 Admit it: You Love Lucy. And me. Which is why you will break down and give me one more try.

Posted by: #OccupyResoluteDesk at April 18, 2012 06:12 PM (+nCNS)

182 Yes.  That is Dunder-Mifflin HQ.  Scranton PA. Some counties are old-school dems. They are not new school communist progressive so-called democrats.  Most of those towns have democrat mayors and such.  Aint it funny the high crime rate/murder counties are in blue?  Ya don't say.  Dauphin County has the other murder city, Harrisburg.  But you cross over the city limits and you get conservatives and to the north you get Kentuckians.  Farmers, hunters, fishermen, that sort of thing.

Posted by: ex-SEAL Team 6-9 at April 18, 2012 09:41 PM (mwEw5)

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