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June 26, 2012

France: Why Sure We're Willing to "Share" Our Sovereingty on Budgetary Matters
— Ace

One criticism of the Europe Project is that you can't have a monetary union without the political union that makes a monetary union possible. You can't have Greece running up huge deficits while Germany sticks to its low-inflation, low-deficits position.

To have a monetary union, you'd have to have an actual sovereign European government, with genuine power to set policy continent-wide.

As the project collapses, they're finally realizing that. But rather than undo the monetary union, they're considering doubling down on the political one.

rance must agree to share sovereignty over its budget with its EU partners, French Budget Minister Jerome Cahuzac said on Tuesday.
He told BFM TV and RMC radio: "This is what we are talking about, budget solidarity in Europe which implies that not only that the French budget, but also the German, Italian and Spanish budgets be subjected to a review by all our partners."
He said: "This does not mean abandoning sovereignty, it is sharing."

He accused Germany of "imagining" inflation worries "everywhere."

I don't think Germany will go for this. Germany had an emotionally-wrenching experience with inflation in the 20s (and I imagine as WWII progressed) and they've made prudence their watchword since then. The strong mark was their national pride.

I don't think the Germans are going to let the Greeks set their budgetary policy. I guess we'll have to see.

Posted by: Ace at 01:38 PM | Comments (287)
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1 NOT.going.to.happen

Posted by: Vic at June 26, 2012 01:39 PM (YdQQY)

2 This will kill the Euro.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at June 26, 2012 01:39 PM (e8kgV)

Typical lefties, completely obtuse and flippant.

Yeah, that inflation shit, why worry.

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E. Buzz. Bunnies. Trump. at June 26, 2012 01:39 PM (tcSZb)

4 It's sharing as long as the Germans foot the bill .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at June 26, 2012 01:40 PM (npr0X)

5 There is a reason the UK still has the Pound. They don't trust the frogs.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at June 26, 2012 01:40 PM (KZI7g)

6 If Merkel gets kicked, germany will fail.

Posted by: she's holding the line at June 26, 2012 01:40 PM (HOOye)

7 That 75% top marginal rate in France has to be exported to the rest of the world or else it won't work.

Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at June 26, 2012 01:41 PM (SDkq3)

8 French, Greeks and Germans all sharing the same integrated standards of laziness and entitlement. It could work.

Posted by: Cicero at June 26, 2012 01:41 PM (QKKT0)

Oh noes, don't stop spending other people's money! It's bad for the European economy!

Signed,

Your Betters

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 26, 2012 01:41 PM (d0Tfm)

10 What's German for "schadenfreude"?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 26, 2012 01:41 PM (snUxd)

11 It is all still socialist, spending someone else's money.

At some point the people in Germany have to get tired of this shit.

Posted by: Vic at June 26, 2012 01:41 PM (YdQQY)

12 Screw France with John Holmes's rotted supercock.

Posted by: © Sponge at June 26, 2012 01:41 PM (UK9cE)

13 They were also willing to share their sovreignity (and women) with the Germans after six weeks of fighting in 1940, too.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 26, 2012 01:42 PM (ZDP2l)

14 France is going to share, how Emo of them!

Posted by: Will Not Assimilate For Food at June 26, 2012 01:42 PM (kXoT0)

15 Seriously, the Marco Rubio/Jon Stewart interview is worth watching (all 3 parts). Rubio will not back down, and burns Stewart at every turn. http://tinyurl.com/7q22zqd

Posted by: o/t at June 26, 2012 01:42 PM (HOOye)

16 Socialists have always intended to get rid of nations. Nations are an impediment to equality and harmony and the perfection of man.

and if you disagree, you are............. ( fill in the Usual Blanks )

Posted by: Rod in Rotterdam at June 26, 2012 01:42 PM (Dll6b)

17 Weimar wheelbarrows of money to buy one loaf of bread got you-- The WW II.

Posted by: tasker at June 26, 2012 01:42 PM (r2PLg)

18 Dear France: The last time you offered to share your sovereignty with Germany, it didn't work out too well for the rest of us. So, you know STFU and STFU. Kisses!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 26, 2012 01:43 PM (Gk3SS)

19 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at June 26, 2012 01:43 PM (nUH8H)

20 France's new hard left government is in a hurry to destroy the Euro. I'd think it was deliberate except that they seem to genuinely be that stupid and that ignorant of economics as to think they are doing the right thing. Its like watching a lunatic cut his throat even deeper to stop the bleeding.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 01:43 PM (r4wIV)

21 "This does not mean abandoning sovereignty, it is sharing." ROFLMAO! That ol' Beauxzeaux le Clown cracks me up every time!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 26, 2012 01:43 PM (C8mVl)

22 Queen Elizabeth II still has a credible ownership claim on France through Edward III. Just sayin', Queenie.

Posted by: Cicero at June 26, 2012 01:43 PM (QKKT0)

23 We Germans are not all smiles and sunshine.

Posted by: Horst at June 26, 2012 01:43 PM (QupBk)

I'd like to see Merkel explain to the German people how they will have to work until 78 in order to pay the retirement benefits of the Greeks, Spaniards, and French who choose to retire at 50.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 26, 2012 01:43 PM (ZDP2l)

25 "This does not mean abandoning sovereignty, it is sharing."

Yeah, any teenager can tell you what BS that is. Well, any teenager who has Republican parents.

Posted by: pep at June 26, 2012 01:43 PM (6TB1Z)

26 Those Grrreeek beaches--pretty--ya?

Posted by: Wagner on the Rhine at June 26, 2012 01:43 PM (r2PLg)

27 France: Economics, how the hell does it work?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at June 26, 2012 01:44 PM (CA2NO)

28 Of course France (now with 50% more Socialism!) is willing to "share their sovereignty." Especially if that means they get to share in Germany's.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at June 26, 2012 01:44 PM (nUH8H)

29 Great, France is willing to share its budget deficit with Germany. Awfully big of them. In other news, I am willing to share sovereignty on my credit card balance with Warren Buffett. We both get to charge on it, and if there are any problems Warren can pick up the tab.

Posted by: Ernst Blofeld at June 26, 2012 01:44 PM (XZWie)

30 I wanted to 'share' Catherine Deneuve thirty years ago, but was denied the opportunity. ---Merde

Posted by: Amstel in Amsterdam at June 26, 2012 01:45 PM (Dll6b)

31 This is the slippery slope intended all along which began with the Mastricht Treaty.

Posted by: Scandia at June 26, 2012 01:45 PM (ddb4x)

32 10 What's German for "schadenfreude"?

Pound sand, frog boy.

Posted by: pep at June 26, 2012 01:45 PM (6TB1Z)

33 If Merkel gets kicked, germany will fail. At which point, so does the rest of the Euro Zone, quite possibly taking us with it.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at June 26, 2012 01:45 PM (nUH8H)

34 You ever hear a Greek try to sing the Horst Wessel Song? Ooof.

Posted by: Germany at June 26, 2012 01:45 PM (QKKT0)

35 I think it's a great idea. I also like to let my drunken brother Karl have access to my checkbook as well.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 26, 2012 01:45 PM (jucos)

36 European logistics is a bitch.

Posted by: Soona at June 26, 2012 01:46 PM (jtdSY)

37 "This does not mean abandoning sovereignty, it is sharing."

I'm pretty sure this is what hookers tell themselves.

Posted by: pep at June 26, 2012 01:46 PM (6TB1Z)

38 Queen Elizabeth II still has a credible ownership claim on France through Edward III. Just sayin', Queenie.

Not to mention I'm pretty sure Her Highness is still able to shoot you herself.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 26, 2012 01:46 PM (Gk3SS)

39 A New World Order, Heh,Heh,Heh.

Posted by: George H.W. Booooosh at June 26, 2012 01:46 PM (zuDcH)

40 the whole idea of sovereignty is that it is indivisible

but you already knew that, ne c'est paas?

Posted by: Cop in Copenhagen at June 26, 2012 01:46 PM (Dll6b)

41 Sovereignty is for closers.

Of course our very own JEF is trying to give ours away too through the Interpol agreement, the proposed Law of the Sea Treaty, the proposed International Trade Tribunal, and any additional flexibility he might have with regard to Russia after the election.

Buck Ofama.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 26, 2012 01:46 PM (ccXZP)

42 How can we surrender? Let me count the ways S'il vous plait.

Posted by: France at June 26, 2012 01:46 PM (hdpay)

43 That thing I did in your mouth ... it isn't abandoning, it's sharing.

Posted by: Germany at June 26, 2012 01:47 PM (hrAg/)

44 There's a joke in here somewhere about Frogs pretending to be princes in order to get the German princess to kiss them, but I just can't think what it is.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at June 26, 2012 01:47 PM (CA2NO)

45 31 I wanted to 'share' Catherine Deneuve thirty years ago, but was denied the opportunity. ---Merde

She was pretty hot until she grew that perfume bottle out of the side of her head.

Posted by: pep at June 26, 2012 01:47 PM (6TB1Z)

46 I'd like to see Merkel explain to the German people Actually, I would, if she phrases it like this: "You can work until age 78 to pay for Greeks' retirement, or you can give me the authority to step out of the Euro."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at June 26, 2012 01:47 PM (nUH8H)

47 >>>One criticism of the Europe Project is that you can't have a monetary union without the political union that makes a monetary union possible.

Something I thought we demonstrated conclusively in 1787. After only 11 years we figured out that a lack of federal political authority makes economic unity impossible. The EU seems determined to take that lesson all the way to the inevitable train wreck we avoided. Some folks just can't learn from others.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at June 26, 2012 01:47 PM (0q2P7)

48 The best thing for Europe would be if the Pope decided to go all medieval on their asses and unify them under Rome. Kidding, but it has a sort of old school appeal, don't you think?

Posted by: Y-not at June 26, 2012 01:47 PM (5H6zj)

"To have a monetary union, you'd have to have an actual sovereign European government, with genuine power to set policy continent-wide.

As the project collapses, they're finally realizing that."

And the fact that people in Spain still love a good siesta.

Posted by: Dang at June 26, 2012 01:47 PM (Ky1+e)

50 Every year that goes by Thatcher looks smarter. Because of her, England still has the Pound, and not the Euro.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 01:47 PM (r4wIV)

The "It's a Small World" ride a Disneyland is not a template for a world government. Last I checked.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 26, 2012 01:47 PM (RZ8pf)

52 I'm willing to share my sovereignty with Fort Knox.

Posted by: WalrusRex at June 26, 2012 01:48 PM (Hx5uv)

53 I think it's a great idea. I also like to let my drunken brother Karl have access to my checkbook as well.

Karl is okay. It's Spiro and Jean-Pierre you gotta worry about.

Posted by: Cicero at June 26, 2012 01:48 PM (QKKT0)

54 52 The "It's a Small World" ride a Disneyland is not a template for a world government. --- Or Coca Cola ads.

Posted by: Y-not at June 26, 2012 01:48 PM (5H6zj)

55 35 You ever hear a Greek try to sing the Horst Wessel Song? Ooof. Posted by: Germany at June 26, 2012 05:45 PM (QKKT0) ***************** Fiddler on the Opa!?

Posted by: Wagner on the Rhine at June 26, 2012 01:48 PM (r2PLg)

56 We should encourage our Progressive friends and neighbors to emigrate to France after Nov. 6.

If they really want socialism that bad, France is going full-retard.

This is going to be great when they implode ... on the other hand, the French Revolution didn't stay confined

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at June 26, 2012 01:49 PM (famk3)

57 The only way Germany avoids being sucked down is to abandon the Euro, which will only speed the descent of the remainder.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 26, 2012 01:49 PM (ZDP2l)

58 Posted by: o/t at June 26, 2012 05:42 PM (HOOye) I like how he made Jon's ass hurt every time he attempted to bring Dem rhetoric into his interview. It's almost as if Jon wanted to actually drop the facade and have a real talk. To bad he's on a leash.

Posted by: cajun carrot at June 26, 2012 01:49 PM (UZQM8)

59 Everybody's eyeballin' Klaus's stash.

Posted by: nickless at June 26, 2012 01:49 PM (MMC8r)

60 I tried to tell you there was an easier way to European unity, but nnnnooooooooo!

Posted by: Adolf Schickelgruber at June 26, 2012 01:49 PM (6TB1Z)

61 The "It's a Small World" ride a Disneyland is not a template for a world government. And Animal Farm and 1984 were not meant to be "How To" manuals, either.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at June 26, 2012 01:49 PM (nUH8H)

62 Have to add another adjective. Government cheese eating surrender monkeys

Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2012 01:49 PM (z+Xap)

63 The "It's a Small World" ride a Disneyland is not a template for a world government. Last I checked. Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 26, 2012 05:47 PM (RZ8pf) WTF!!!!??!? Merde!

Posted by: France at June 26, 2012 01:49 PM (CA2NO)

64 31- Catherine Deneuve! Sacre bleu! Monsieur DeVille he has the same probleme. Catherine Deneuve in her prime! Catherine Deneuve! Toujours Catherine Deneuve! You would zink she is one of the most beautiful women who ever lived!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 26, 2012 01:49 PM (C8mVl)

65 Everything would be much better if we all would wear Benetton.

Posted by: Y-not at June 26, 2012 01:49 PM (5H6zj)

66 Just so you know EU members. Something that will be claimed by your new Federation is that they need the ability to regulate commerce between the members. WATCH OUT!!!!!

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at June 26, 2012 01:50 PM (0q2P7)

67 O/T, spotted on twitter (I thought it was clever): 2012 Not Just an Election, It's a RESTRAINING ORDER!

Posted by: Y-not at June 26, 2012 01:51 PM (5H6zj)

68 Sharing builds camaraderie, no?

youtube.com/watch?v=NEwdWO8YzOY

Posted by: Fritz at June 26, 2012 01:51 PM (ZN5qR)

69 65 31- Catherine Deneuve! Sacre bleu! Monsieur DeVille he has the same probleme. Catherine Deneuve in her prime! Catherine Deneuve! Toujours Catherine Deneuve!
You would zink she is one of the most beautiful women who ever lived!

pffffft.

Posted by: Sophie Marceau at June 26, 2012 01:51 PM (6TB1Z)

70 Well, think about it - if all the nations of Europe are married to each other, of course the checkbook and the bank accounts ought to be community property, right?

Yes, it certainly sounds like an incestuous metaphor, but let's be honest - there's a centuries-old tradition of intermarriage among the crowned heads of Europe anyway.

So, if one member of this blessed union does all the producing and earning, and the other spends it all like Charlie Sheen on a weekend bender, it leads to a divorce, right? Better than in Henry VIII's day, when the solution was a beheading or the Tower of London, I suppose...

Posted by: Keith Arnold at June 26, 2012 01:51 PM (Jdtsu)

71 I'll take Sophie Marceau, circa Braveheart filming. She might be a psychotic leftist but she's so beautiful I could ignore that for a while.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 01:51 PM (r4wIV)

O/T but WTF man, WTF???? I just saw on Drudge that Oreo is releasing a rainbow oreo in support of Gay pride.

Do they have to politicize absolutely everything. Do they? I mean they already own twinkies don't they? Do they really need Oreos too?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 26, 2012 01:51 PM (RZ8pf)

73 Just so you know EU members. Something that will be claimed by your new Federation is that they need the ability to regulate commerce between the members. WATCH OUT!!!!!

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at June 26, 2012 05:50 PM (0q2P7)

What's there to worry about? THEY already have FREE healthcare.

Posted by: © Sponge at June 26, 2012 01:52 PM (UK9cE)

74 Let me ~~put~~ share my herpes in with you

Posted by: Dominique Strauss Kahn at June 26, 2012 01:52 PM (GJoG6)

75 58 The only way Germany avoids being sucked down is to abandon the Euro, which will only speed the descent of the remainder. Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 26, 2012 05:49 PM (ZDP2l) ******* Oooh! New twist on the-- vacuum theory.

Posted by: Wagner on the Rhine at June 26, 2012 01:52 PM (r2PLg)

76 It took 70 comments to get to Sophie Marceau?

Posted by: Cicero at June 26, 2012 01:52 PM (QKKT0)

77 They're goin' all Omega Man: Germany = Charleton Heston Europe = Anthony Zerbe and his hippy vampire zombies

Posted by: nickless at June 26, 2012 01:52 PM (MMC8r)

78 Hey Germany, can we share our bankruptcy with you?

Posted by: The PIIGS & France at June 26, 2012 01:52 PM (zuDcH)

79 51 Every year that goes by Thatcher looks smarter. Take a moment to ruminate on that. One of the smartest, savviest women politicians of her era -- hell, of women PERIOD -- continues to look smarter and smarter because those who have come after her are such supreme, unequivocal idiots. It's a shame the Iron Lady is in such a frail condition; I think she deserves to deliver a fair few "I told you so's."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at June 26, 2012 01:53 PM (CA2NO)

80 70 65 pffft pffft Cappucine

Posted by: teej at June 26, 2012 01:53 PM (vzfrq)

81 "I just saw on Drudge that Oreo is releasing a rainbow oreo in support of Gay pride. "
Yeah but its still white inside, the hypocritical cookie.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 01:53 PM (r4wIV)

82 Hit the snooze button again. Fritz has been up for hours. He's figure it out.

Posted by: Typical Spaniard at June 26, 2012 01:54 PM (Ky1+e)

83 Holy frijoles! My sleeper pick for Veep just dropped a bomb: Fresh off his stateÂ’s stinging immigration defeat before the U.S. Supreme Court, Senator Jon Kyl (R-AZ) suggested during a Tuesday morning radio interview that Americans should vote President Barack Obama out of office Â— but if they do not, Â“impeachment is always a possibility.Â” http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/26/sen-kyl-impeachment-is-always-a-possibility-for-obama/

Posted by: Y-not at June 26, 2012 01:54 PM (5H6zj)

84 You want a good French film with a decent fight scene-- (of course provided by the Huguenots) Queen Margot-- with that chick I always confuse with Sophie Mar--whatever.

Posted by: Wagner on the Rhine at June 26, 2012 01:54 PM (r2PLg)

85 you know who else wanted a united Europe?

Posted by: Ron Fucking Swanson at June 26, 2012 01:54 PM (KHo8t)

86 Sophie. Mmmmm. http://tinyurl.com/7d98sp4

Posted by: Cicero at June 26, 2012 01:54 PM (QKKT0)

87 O/T but WTF man, WTF???? I just saw on Drudge that Oreo is releasing a rainbow oreo in support of Gay pride. Do they have to politicize absolutely everything. Dothey? I mean they already own twinkies don't they? Do they really need Oreos too? Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 26, 2012 05:51 PM (RZ8pf) ---------------------------------------------------- This is why I avoid Pepsi. They went all in for Teh Won and even changed their logo. I'll never purchase them again.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 26, 2012 01:54 PM (jucos)

88 Toujours Catherine Deneuve!
You would zink she is one of the most beautiful women who ever lived!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 26, 2012 05:49 PM (C8mVl)

tourjours, c'est vrai. Tout le monde vrai.--- Mais, Sophie M, c'est tres, tres belle

Posted by: Cop in Copenhagen at June 26, 2012 01:55 PM (Dll6b)

89 One criticism of the Europe Project is that you can't have a monetary union without the political union that makes a monetary union possible. You can't have Greece running up huge deficits while Germany sticks to its low-inflation, low-deficits position.

Actually, you very easily could. Just because they all share a currency doesn't mean that they have to support each other's fiscal failures. The rest of the EMU could let Greece go bankrupt and it wouldn't affect the Euro one bit. The problem is not the shared currency (which can easily be done without shared sovereignty), the problem is that they have turned the banking systems and monetary authority into a supporting structures for the other nations.

ANy nation can run itself on US dollars, but if it it runs itself into the ground then it has no recourse. Tough luck. That doesn't affect the dollar, at all, just the nation that decided to use dollars as its legal tender.

The loss of sovereignty in using a currency you don't own is that you lose control over manipulation of the currency. But that is it. It does not imply any required loss of actual political sovereignty, just the loss of the ability to manipulate the currency. That's the whole point people make about requiring a gold standard (I'm not in favor of a gold standard but of a single mandate for the Fed, to protect the integrity of the dollar). It takes this power away from any government that runs based on gold rather than on fiat.

The EMU sovereignty problem is, like everything else in the EU and EMU, bullshit and contrived. Bullshit in that they lied about it from the start and contrived in that they pushed themselves into a corner that they now declare was unavoidable.

People should be straight on this issue of the Euro and which parts are made up and which parts are actually endemic to a nation having an "external" currency - which does not imply any need to surrender sovereignty, just the need to surrender the power of the government to steal and abuse it citizenry through arbitrary currency manipulation.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 26, 2012 01:55 PM (X3lox)

90 I'll never purchase them again. On the up side, you can now broaden your horizons to include soft-drinks that actually taste good.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at June 26, 2012 01:55 PM (nUH8H)

91 Do they have to politicize absolutely everything. Dothey? I mean they already own twinkies don't they? Do they really need Oreos too?Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle

It's the imperative of the neo-Marxists.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at June 26, 2012 01:55 PM (famk3)

92 Isabelle Adjani--who I also confuse with that more Italian broad.

Posted by: Wagner on the Rhine at June 26, 2012 01:56 PM (r2PLg)

93 Google Sophie Marceau NipSlip

Posted by: Information You Can Use, But Not At Work at June 26, 2012 01:56 PM (zuDcH)

Inga, my trusty Volvo, reports the temperature to be 123 degrees at 4pm. One thing I've noted about this obscene heat wave--we don't have the body counts the Europeans have when their thermometer reaches "45 degrees."

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 26, 2012 01:56 PM (Ec6wH)

95 Any discussion of Catherine Deneuve is incomplete without this - http://bit.ly/MRa2x3 (sadly I cannot find a higher quality clip)

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 26, 2012 01:56 PM (Gk3SS)

96 A little inflation never hurt anyone, I say roll the dice!

Posted by: Adolf Hitler III at June 26, 2012 01:57 PM (I/Xad)

France has a long tradition of sharing its sovereignty with Germany.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 26, 2012 01:57 PM (6Hf3R)

98 This will bring about the Greatest Downfall Parody Ever.

Posted by: nickless at June 26, 2012 01:57 PM (MMC8r)

99 "Queen Margot"
Isabella Adjani, but I'll take Anne Parillaud instead.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 01:57 PM (r4wIV)

100 O/T but WTF man, WTF???? I just saw on Drudge that Oreo is releasing a rainbow oreo in support of Gay pride.

Sandwich cookie / anal sex. I don't see a connection.

Posted by: Dang at June 26, 2012 01:58 PM (Ky1+e)

101 Monica Belucci.

Posted by: Wagner on the Rhine at June 26, 2012 01:59 PM (r2PLg)

102 How about France shares the Rhineland first and then we'll talk

Posted by: The Q at June 26, 2012 01:59 PM (B/yDO)

103 France is willing to spread her sovereingty for anyone who buys her a drink and compliments her on her impeccable fashion sense.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 26, 2012 01:59 PM (RZ8pf)

104 I just saw on Drudge that Oreo is releasing a rainbow oreo in support of Gay pride.

No. They aren't.

"Kraft is not planning to sell the rainbow-stuffed Oreo in stores, Maglaris said, as it was created solely for the advertising campaign in honor of Pride month."

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 26, 2012 01:59 PM (Gk3SS)

105 my favorite French word is 'donc'

also, I like ye-ye music and very short, checkered skirts and long lean women

Posted by: Abby in Abbeville at June 26, 2012 02:00 PM (Dll6b)

106 This is why I avoid Pepsi. They went all in for Teh Won and even changed their logo. I'll never purchase them again. Posted by: Truck Monkey

Not to mention they caved in to not selling products to Israel. Coca-Cola didn't.

Posted by: Dang at June 26, 2012 02:00 PM (Ky1+e)

107 Something about Monica Belucci just doesn't work for me. BÃ©atrice Dalle was very pretty too, but she seems broken, somehow.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 02:00 PM (r4wIV)

108 It took 70 comments to get to Sophie Marceau?

Posted by: Cicero at June 26, 2012 05:52 PM (QKKT0)

---------------------------------------------

I just googled "Images of Sophie Marceau". Oh, my.

Posted by: Soona at June 26, 2012 02:00 PM (jtdSY)

109 59 Posted by: o/t at June 26, 2012 05:42 PM (HOOye) I like how he made Jon's ass hurt every time he attempted to bring Dem rhetoric into his interview. It's almost as if Jon wanted to actually drop the facade and have a real talk. To bad he's on a leash. Posted by: cajun carrot at June 26, 2012 05:49 PM (UZQM

============ What also struck me, was when ever Rubio made bullet proof points - Stewart tossed out the "I'm really clueless" joke lines and redirected the discussion.

Posted by: o/t at June 26, 2012 02:01 PM (HOOye)

110 Not to mention they caved in to not selling products to Israel. Coca-Cola didn't. Posted by: Dang at June 26, 2012 06:00 PM (Ky1+e) --------------------------------------------------------- Didn't know that. Fuck Pepsi.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 26, 2012 02:01 PM (jucos)

111

oh, well, (in my best Emily Littella voice) "nevermind" Sorry alexthechick.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 26, 2012 02:01 PM (RZ8pf)

112 but I'll take Anne Parillaud instead. ******* Had to google that. Haven't watched Nikita yet.

Posted by: Wagner on the Rhine at June 26, 2012 02:01 PM (r2PLg)

113 Jerry Lewis told them it was a good idea.

Posted by: nickless at June 26, 2012 02:02 PM (MMC8r)

114 Sophie Marceau was chillingly effective in The World is Not Enough too, one of the best Bond Girls. After Carole Bouquet.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 02:02 PM (r4wIV)

115 You talk about French girls and I keep coming back to Alizee

http://youtu.be/ceSxEjwXHcM

Posted by: The Q at June 26, 2012 02:02 PM (B/yDO)

116 >>>France has a long tradition of sharing its sovereignty with Germany.

So akin to the Tivolian

Glory To <Insert Name Here>

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at June 26, 2012 02:03 PM (0q2P7)

117 (F)rance must agree to share sovereignty over its budget with its EU partners

I read that as: France must reach across its borders to grab more cash from its EU partners in order to pay these dupes who just elected us to office.

Posted by: crosspatch at June 26, 2012 02:03 PM (ZbLJZ)

118 "Haven't watched Nikita yet."
I recommend it highly. Innocent Blood is another fun movie, plus, nakey french vampire girl.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 02:03 PM (r4wIV)

119 can I still complain that the new packaging for Oreos, which is supposedly better because it is re-sealable actually gives you less cookies and is annoying to get the cookies on the side out of?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 26, 2012 02:03 PM (RZ8pf)

120 Bond girls? BB

Posted by: teej at June 26, 2012 02:03 PM (ETWo2)

121 It wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor!

Posted by: Blutarski at June 26, 2012 02:03 PM (7+pP9)

122 This, coming from a people whose language uses the same verb, gagner, when expressing both thoughts: Earning money Winning a bet

Posted by: We who are much of admire le Jerry Lewis at June 26, 2012 02:03 PM (AZGON)

123 France doesn't mind sharing sovereignty so long as France calls the shots. Undoubtedly, France thinks it still has Germany under it's guilt-trip control. They may be wrong.

Posted by: rabidfox at June 26, 2012 02:03 PM (GLTWk)

124 this is pierre asking Onkel Geldtasche for the sort of bailout that will allow cash-strapped france -- rapidly losing its moneyed classes to tax exile accross the english channel -- to save political face and pretend it remains an economic powerhouse as well capitalised as its more prudent neighbour.

Posted by: jimi ray at June 26, 2012 02:03 PM (79EF9)

125 The sad part is little kids would buy rainbow Oreos by the case load if they could. I used to stuff my Oreos with Starbursts.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 26, 2012 02:03 PM (Ec6wH)

126 I just googled "Images of Sophie Marceau".Oh, my. Posted by: Soona

*Thrusting pelvis madly with tongue hanging out while slapping imaginary ass.*

Posted by: Marcel Marceau at June 26, 2012 02:03 PM (Ky1+e)

127 *begging Angela Merkel for money*

Niiiiiiice laaaaaady!!!

Posted by: Jerry Lewis, French Ambassador to Germany at June 26, 2012 02:04 PM (nBfxt)

128 109 Something about Monica Belucci just doesn't work for me. BÃ©atrice Dalle was very pretty too, but she seems broken, somehow. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 06:00 PM (r4wIV) ************ Hmm...off to the googles. Indochine will always be my favorite--even though I don't think it is reviewed that well. And--Queen Margot was better than I thought it would be.

Posted by: Wagner on the Rhine at June 26, 2012 02:04 PM (r2PLg)

129 Germany! Make sure you get a prenup before you marry that bitch France!

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at June 26, 2012 02:04 PM (tKFT6)

130 oh, well, (in my best Emily Littella voice) "nevermind" Sorry alexthechick.

No problem, it's just driving me nuts that people keep saying that when that's not correct. I do think the drudge headline on it is pretty misleading.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 26, 2012 02:04 PM (Gk3SS)

131 hier gehen wir wieder

Posted by: Germans: marching in the shade at June 26, 2012 02:04 PM (zsgo8)

132

Ewww, Starburst in Oreo? Wasn't the texture difference weird?

Well, I confess I am a sucker for the holiday colored Oreos. Especially the cute winter ones with the ice skates on them.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 26, 2012 02:05 PM (RZ8pf)

133 Careful with google. BÃ©atrice Dalle has gotten... scary.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 02:05 PM (r4wIV)

134 I recommend it highly. Innocent Blood is another fun movie, plus, nakey french vampire girl. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 06:03 PM (r4wIV) ****** Well...I'm a chick so-- Christopher Lambert--... whose dating--I think Sophie Marceau--the circle is complete.

Posted by: Wagner on the Rhine at June 26, 2012 02:05 PM (r2PLg)

135 France is 100% behind anything regarding united Europe, because they always know that they'll wield influence beyond their portion. They love the bloated bureaucratic state, where their governing class can remain pompously imperious.

Posted by: nickless at June 26, 2012 02:06 PM (MMC8r)

136 #120: "...nakey french vampire girl..."

Mathilda May - Lifeforce. I'll see your nakey French vampire girl, and raise you nakey French space alien vampire girl.

Posted by: Keith Arnold at June 26, 2012 02:06 PM (Jdtsu)

137 Oh, you want great movie with babe of babes? Casablanca Bergman

Posted by: teej at June 26, 2012 02:06 PM (ETWo2)

138 can I still complain that the new packaging for Oreos, which is supposedly better because it is re-sealable actually gives you less cookies and is annoying to get the cookies on the side out of?

Oh hell yes. It's not resealable, it's smaller and it's *stupid*.

Great. Now I want an Oreo shake.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 26, 2012 02:06 PM (Gk3SS)

139 Meh, I was 10. It was a sugar delivery system.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 26, 2012 02:06 PM (Ec6wH)

140 97 Funnybot will solve budget problems with greatest joke ever.

Posted by: I am Funnybot at June 26, 2012 05:56 PM (yn6XZ)

Here have a comedy award.

Posted by: buzzion at June 26, 2012 02:06 PM (GULKT)

141

I expect new Deutschmarks to be issued by October. There is no way that Germany is going to keep trying to support the freeloaders in europe.

I thought they would kick Greece and a few others out, but I think the socialist dreamers and closet facists are willing to ride that wreck of the EU all the way in to the ground.

Posted by: rd at June 26, 2012 02:06 PM (9sUlj)

142 Well, I should've clicked through to the article, it's just I was tired of clicking on Drudge links. They are so depressing. It's like a daily digest of harbingers of the apocalypse. If I have to see one more "person high on bath salts eats a dog/cat/human" article I may scream.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 26, 2012 02:07 PM (RZ8pf)

143

Oui, oui mi weee wee it burns

Posted by: The Jackhole at June 26, 2012 02:07 PM (nTgAI)

144 Then you guys probably like that really slutty one-- what's her name-- Asia Argento.

Posted by: Wagner on the Rhine at June 26, 2012 02:08 PM (r2PLg)

145 So is the gay OreoÂ® a vanilla cookie with chocolate filling and a hole in the middle?

Posted by: Dang at June 26, 2012 02:08 PM (Ky1+e)

146

Great. Now I want an Oreo shake.

I'd prefer a Mint Choc. Chip Fribble.

Posted by: garrett at June 26, 2012 02:09 PM (XepQ0)

147 I can't think of a single good looking French male celeb. I think they had to offshore their men to Canada for a few generations to get some actual manliness in 'em.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 26, 2012 02:09 PM (3inkD)

148 Bond girls?

BB

Posted by: teej at June 26, 2012 06:03 PM (ETWo2)

------------------------------------------------

Barbara Boxer was a Bond girl?

Posted by: Soona at June 26, 2012 02:10 PM (jtdSY)

149 That's all bullshit. Profligate CA and prudent TX exist in the same monetary union with neither able to print money. The problem is the cross-holding of government debt by European banks. And the only reason that is a problem is because politicians won't allow insolvent banks to fail. The only way to prevent them for failing is to keep insolvent countries afloat with tax payer bailouts. If large TX banks owned a bunch of CA debt then was not able to be paid back you would create the same issues that exist in Europe now.

Posted by: scofflawx at June 26, 2012 02:10 PM (IhBRY)

150

Mathilda May - Lifeforce. I'll see your nakey French vampire girl, and raise you nakey French space alien vampire girl.

Posted by: Keith Arnold at June 26, 2012 06:06 PM (Jdtsu)

I saw that. It was... interesting. Wasn't Patrick Stewart in it?

Posted by: ErikW at June 26, 2012 02:10 PM (y4M8G)

151 >>>France rules what's left of the roost

If Germany left today, the EU wouldn't make it to the 4th of July.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at June 26, 2012 02:11 PM (0q2P7)

152 heh: @mboyle1 Developing.... Utah Dem Rep. Jim Matheson plans to vote in favor of Holder contempt #FASTANDFURIOUS

Posted by: Y-not at June 26, 2012 02:11 PM (5H6zj)

153 Asia Argento.

Italian, daughter of Dario Argento, director of some of the freakiest horror movies you'll ever see.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 26, 2012 02:12 PM (Gk3SS)

154 No woman on earth will ever compare to the pure beauty of Ingrid Bergman. For sheer raw sexuality, Marilyn Monroe has her beat but Ingrid Bergman was just incomparable beauty. Even if Notorious is probably a lot closer to her real personality.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 02:12 PM (r4wIV)

155 Ahem...Cal-E-fornia!

Posted by: Paladin at June 26, 2012 02:12 PM (HOGyM)

156 What I did was not robbing banks of their sovereignty, it was "sharing." By the way, I was of German descent. ChÃ¼ss!

Posted by: John Dillinger at June 26, 2012 02:12 PM (AZGON)

157 LOL Soona. Thanks. I'm sure you know but for those who might not - Barbara Bach

Posted by: teej at June 26, 2012 02:12 PM (ETWo2)

158 "Wasn't Patrick Stewart in it?"

I didn't notice Patrick Stewart, and if you did, I have some bad news for you.

KIDDING! Okay, yes, he was. But still -

Posted by: Keith Arnold at June 26, 2012 02:13 PM (Jdtsu)

159 "I can't think of a single good looking French male celeb. "
when they offer us Gerard Depardeiu as a sex symbol you know something desperately wrong has happened to the Frenchman.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 02:13 PM (r4wIV)

160 You wanna buy a Jumbo Fudge Stick? http://tinyurl.com/89qxsqt

Posted by: Keebler Elf "Creepy" at June 26, 2012 02:13 PM (QKKT0)

161 Actually Lifeforce was a decent movie, but yes, Mathilda May walking around buck naked for a good half the movie was a selling point.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 02:13 PM (r4wIV)

162 Mathilda May - Lifeforce. I'll see your nakey French vampire girl, and raise you nakey French space alien vampire girl.

Posted by: Keith Arnold at June 26, 2012 06:06 PM (Jdtsu)

I saw that. It was... interesting. Wasn't Patrick Stewart in it?

Posted by: ErikW at June 26, 2012 06:10 PM (y4M8G)

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There were other people in that movie?

Posted by: Soona at June 26, 2012 02:13 PM (jtdSY)

163 Et moi? I am ze shopped leever? I have ze Oscar, mes amis, and I suffer for ze art. Suffer! Yes! I kees Leonardo DiCaprio. You see, I suffer. And to suffer it makes my eyes beautiful and my leeps to pout very nice, no?

Posted by: Marion Cotillard at June 26, 2012 02:14 PM (C8mVl)

164 19 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at June 26, 2012 05:43 PM (nUH8H)

I have to disagree...being a tyrant implies some measure of competence, of which O'bumbles sorely lacks in all respects.

Posted by: model_1066 at June 26, 2012 02:14 PM (YbQJm)

165 @157...yeah...splendid girl. And she played Golda Meir.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 26, 2012 02:14 PM (Ec6wH)

166 Utah Dem Rep. Jim Matheson plans to vote in favor of Holder contempt #FASTANDFURIOUS Posted by: Y-not

A big f'in deal.

I guess even the Dems get tired of being tossed under the bus some are eager to return the favor.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at June 26, 2012 02:15 PM (famk3)

167 More like a stuttering clusterf*ck of a childish twat.

Posted by: model_1066 at June 26, 2012 02:15 PM (YbQJm)

168 I can't think of a single good looking French male celeb.

Maybe Cyril Raffaelli though I'm not sure he counts as a huge star. Hmmm I was also going to say Jean Reno but technically he's Moroccan.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 26, 2012 02:16 PM (Gk3SS)

169 @162 Exactly. I will say the fireman uniforms over there are rather fetching but they are almost too sexy, overtly so, in that sort of gay in-your-face way.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 26, 2012 02:16 PM (3inkD)

170 I don't know how handsome Jean Reno is but he's a blast to watch in anything he's in. He's been in some pretty great French action movies too. Yes, its bizarre but the French make good action movies. Check out District 13 some time.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 02:17 PM (r4wIV)

171

I didn't notice Patrick Stewart, and if you did, I have some bad news for you.

KIDDING! Okay, yes, he was. But still -

Posted by: Keith Arnold at June 26, 2012 06:13 PM (Jdtsu)

Heh, it's been many moons since I saw that. That particular lady doesn't really stand out, probably because I was switching back and forth between that and Lady Chatterly.

Posted by: ErikW at June 26, 2012 02:17 PM (y4M8G)

172 All your Euros are belong to us.

Posted by: The Greeks at June 26, 2012 02:17 PM (kqqGm)

173 Dear France,

You are still our bitch.

Signed,
Germany

Posted by: Mjölnir the banhammer at June 26, 2012 02:17 PM (Jls4P)

174 Course now I'm thinking about Audrey Hepburn's big brown eyes. So many different types of beauty.

Posted by: teej at June 26, 2012 02:17 PM (ETWo2)

175 The Daily Caller's been kicking some @$$ lately. This is a great new headline: Outsourcer-In-Chief, Indeed Obama campaign's travel bookings outsourced to India A new ad from President ObamaÂ’s re-election campaign calls Mitt Romney Â“Outsourcer-in-Chief,Â” accusing the former businessman and presumptive Republican presidential nominee of overseeing companies that shipped jobs to China and India while leading Bain Capital. But while Obama tries to hit Romney on this issue, records show that ObamaÂ’s campaign is using a travel booking company this year that have operations in India and China.

Posted by: o/t at June 26, 2012 02:18 PM (HOOye)

176 I saw that. It was... interesting. Wasn't Patrick Stewart in it? Posted by: ErikW at June 26, 2012 06:10 PM (y4M8G) I always thought Steve Railsback had a likeable screen presence, despite his predilection for playing nutbags (he was the surviving astronaut Carlsen). Obviously Mathilda May was a hottie alien vampire, though as she aged her mouth kind of got out of control and started taking over her face. Too bad it was a small enough draw that no one ever went back to tell what happened after the end (that I know of), like did Carlsen die or become part of the Space Vampire culture, did they actually have a culture, WTF was up with how they got there, etc.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 26, 2012 02:19 PM (bxiXv)

177 Jacques Pepin was very good-looking for a very long time. He's gone a bit to seed now.

Posted by: Y-not at June 26, 2012 02:19 PM (5H6zj)

178 Audrey Hepburn always looked like she'd snap in half if you hugged her. But you're right, different kinds of beauty. Claudia Schiffer was never really all that beautiful but something about her made me stamp my foot and howl. I rarely react sexually to women, its more aesthetic for me but something about her...

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 02:19 PM (r4wIV)

179

I will say the fireman uniforms over there are rather fetching but they are almost too sexy, overtly so, in that sort of gay in-your-face way.

They're French. Gay is baked into the baguette.

Posted by: garrett at June 26, 2012 02:20 PM (TmLJz)

180 Alain Delon was handsome back in the day, although a bit too pretty for my personal taste. Amazing how we can come up with many gorgeous frogettes, but hardly a single male frog. The guy in "The Artist" is pretty easy on the eyes. Charming anyway. So was the dog, Uggie, but he may not be French.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 26, 2012 02:20 PM (C8mVl)

181 Eh, ALex, I am not feelin' Cyril.

The French/Arabic combo can be very nice, though, this is true. Andre Aggassi comes to mind; I think he's half Assyrian. ( actually, I think he's half Armenian?)

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 26, 2012 02:20 PM (3inkD)

182 Check out District 13 some time.

Why do you think I mentioned Cyril Raffaelli?

Okay wait the BCS is actually going to a 4 team playoff? Yeah, SMOD is coming.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 26, 2012 02:20 PM (Gk3SS)

183 157 "No woman on earth will ever compare to the pure beauty of Ingrid Bergman."

I always leaned towards Grace Kelly, myself.

Posted by: The Q at June 26, 2012 02:20 PM (B/yDO)

184 Developing.... Utah Dem Rep. Jim Matheson plans to vote in favor of Holder contempt #FASTANDFURIOUS Posted by: Y-not at June 26, 2012 06:11 PM (5H6zj) Well well well, there apparently is at least *one* Democrat who gives a damn about dead Mexicans.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 26, 2012 02:21 PM (bxiXv)

185 shit shit sorry

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 26, 2012 02:21 PM (Gk3SS)

186

Andre Aggassi

That guy is a midget!

Posted by: Bob Costas at June 26, 2012 02:21 PM (TmLJz)

187 I expect the Germans will soon tire of this pan-European socialism and will revert to their national socialist ways.

Posted by: mugiwara at June 26, 2012 02:21 PM (KI/Ch)

188 Have to go back a ways, maybe Maurice Chevalier. Claude Raines was a fantastic actor, a bit short unfortunately so he never got to be a real leading man but he seemed to look okay. Not being a woman or gay I can't really assess his looks properly.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 02:22 PM (r4wIV)

189

I always leaned towards Grace Kelly, myself.

None hotter.

Posted by: garrett at June 26, 2012 02:22 PM (TmLJz)

190 France has no problem relinquinshing their sovereignty. The Germans - let's just say they have a different philosphy.

Posted by: SH at June 26, 2012 02:23 PM (gmeXX)

191 Audrey Hepburn always looked like she'd snap in half if you hugged her. But you're right, different kinds of beauty. Claudia Schiffer was never really all that beautiful but something about her made me stamp my foot and howl. I rarely react sexually to women, its more aesthetic for me but something about her...

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 06:19 PM (r4wIV)

-----------------------------------------------

Y'all speak of beauty? Three names: Kathryn Zeta Jones

Posted by: Soona at June 26, 2012 02:23 PM (jtdSY)

192 Grace would definitely make the list Q.

Posted by: teej at June 26, 2012 02:23 PM (ETWo2)

193 Yeah I have to give Grace Kelly her props too. She can be the blonde in my harem. She was a real trashy slut in real life though, apparently. Sort of tarnished her in my memories.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 02:23 PM (r4wIV)

194 Chevalier is/was too pretty. I guess I like my men more rugged than the French are capable of producing.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 26, 2012 02:24 PM (3inkD)

195 shit shit sorry I would charge anyone else 1 Internetz for forgetting their closing tag. But, seeing as it's you (and you'd stompy me), I'll let you off with a warning.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at June 26, 2012 02:24 PM (nUH8H)

196 196- "She was a real trashy slut in real life though, ..." Not by today's standards.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 26, 2012 02:24 PM (C8mVl)

197 I'm probably going to have to turn in my man card for this but I really like the movie Les Parapluie de Cherburg. Catherine was hot in an innocent kind of way.

Posted by: WalrusRex at June 26, 2012 02:25 PM (Hx5uv)

198 "I guess I like my men more rugged than the French are capable of producing."
Its been a long time since Charles Martel.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 02:25 PM (r4wIV)

199 Ja, that's what I told Schleswig and Holstein and some of those silly German princes after the Austro-Prussian War. Prussia is just "sharing" its sovereignty with you.

Posted by: Otto von Bismarck at June 26, 2012 02:25 PM (AZGON)

200

Yeah I have to give Grace Kelly her props too... She was a real trashy slut in real life though,

and you are marking her down for this? That'll cost you a corner off the old Man Card.

Posted by: garrett at June 26, 2012 02:26 PM (TmLJz)

201 Its been a long time since Charles Martel. Wasn't he more German (well, everyone was "German" then)? Well, I guess Goth v Gaul, maybe.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at June 26, 2012 02:26 PM (nUH8H)

202 garrett: maybe I should use the word whore? You know the old joke, whore if she sleeps with everyone...
I don't mind a woman who is a slut, if she's only a slut with me but Grace had quite a reputation.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 02:28 PM (r4wIV)

203 But, seeing as it's you (and you'd stompy me), I'll let you off with a warning.

I'd only stompy you a little bit. I totally thought I closed it too.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 26, 2012 02:28 PM (Gk3SS)

204 my favorite sex goddess has always been Ann Margret when she walked out in Viva Las Vegas in those tight thin shorts it struck me blind.

My more modern goddess of film is Michele Pfeiffer. The red dress piano scene from Fabulous Baker boys comes to mind.

Posted by: Vic at June 26, 2012 02:28 PM (YdQQY)

205 @194, there was something about Anna Nicole Smith that made my husband stomp his foot and howl. And she was NOT his type at all, he likes the petite little Hispanic snotty type.

He never watched anything she was in, but when a special comes on about here, he is mesmerized.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 26, 2012 02:29 PM (3inkD)

206 It depends on the politicians. Lefties don't care cause shit don't cost nothing. So give the Greeeks a bazillion dollars. Don't cost nothing as long as you maintain power. The second something costs power, that's when the shit gets real. So, since there are only lefty pols in Western Europe, don't expect the politicians to do anything that would hurt their power. Money don't cost nothing.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at June 26, 2012 02:29 PM (QxSug)

207 197 -- " I guess I like my men more rugged than the French are capable of producing." Likewise. I was trying to think of the hot guy who played opposite Meg Ryan in "French Kiss," but then I realized it was Kevin Kline!!!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 26, 2012 02:29 PM (C8mVl)

208 We seem to have strayed from pure economics a bit so I'll just mention that in the movie One Million Years B.C. after Raquel Welch gets dropped in the ocean by a pterodactyl or something and then she cones walking out soaking wet in her stone age bikini, well, that was some damn fine cinematography.

Posted by: WalrusRex at June 26, 2012 02:29 PM (Hx5uv)

209

Oops. Catherine Zeta Jones. (It's hard to type with one hand)

Posted by: Soona at June 26, 2012 02:29 PM (jtdSY)

210

maybe I should use the word whore?

How. Dare. You?

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at June 26, 2012 02:29 PM (TmLJz)

211

Yeah I have to give Grace Kelly her props too... She was a real trashy slut in real life though,

and you are marking her down for this? That'll cost you a corner off the old Man Card.

Posted by: garrett at June 26, 2012 06:26 PM (TmLJz)

To quote Confederate Railroad, "I like my women just a little on the trashy side!"

Posted by: ErikW at June 26, 2012 02:29 PM (y4M8G)

212 Beat me. Stompy me. Make me write bad checks.

Posted by: teej at June 26, 2012 02:30 PM (ETWo2)

213 My more modern goddess of film is Michele Pfeiffer. The red dress piano scene from Fabulous Baker boys comes to mind.

---

Yeah, she was hot in that movie.

Posted by: WalrusRex at June 26, 2012 02:30 PM (Hx5uv)

214 >>208 @194, there was something about Anna Nicole Smith I think you mean someTHINGS.

Posted by: Y-not at June 26, 2012 02:30 PM (5H6zj)

215 We could use a Martel now.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 26, 2012 02:30 PM (3inkD)

216 Ann Margaret was ruined for me in the beans scene of Tommy. She was real pretty though. Still, I'll take Rita Hayworth as my redhead in the harem.
"then I realized it was Kevin Kline!!!"
I'll never forgive Kline for marrying Phoebe Cates. And staying married, happily. The bastard.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 02:30 PM (r4wIV)

217 what about Pepe LePew?

Posted by: model_1066 at June 26, 2012 02:31 PM (YbQJm)

218 Just finished phone banking for Scott Brown and David Steinhof. Brown will win this, it's not even close. We were talking to U and D regular voters and folks were excited to vote for Brown.

Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at June 26, 2012 02:33 PM (2qvoq)

219 "Raquel Welch gets dropped in the ocean by a pterodactyl or something and then she cones walking out soaking wet in her stone age bikini, "
I was thinking you misspelled "comes" but I like the sound of "she cones" as a euphamism for mom bags. As in "Man check out the she cones on that blonde!"

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 02:33 PM (r4wIV)

220 BTW, it's easy to root for Germany in this Euro society. Their soccer team would make the Nazis roll over in their graves: two Turks, two Poles, and an African in their starting 11.

Posted by: The Q at June 26, 2012 02:33 PM (B/yDO)

221 Sophia Loren.

I was reading something about that scene in Grumpier Old Men where she walks through the bar and everyone is staring at her and the comment was yeah none of us needed to do any acting for that.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 26, 2012 02:34 PM (Gk3SS)

222 Never forgive Kline? I feel the same way about Rick Ocasic (sp?).

Posted by: teej at June 26, 2012 02:34 PM (ETWo2)

223 All of us morons talking about all the classy chicks. When everything is talked out, the only woman we really have left is our own Katie Upton.

Posted by: Soona at June 26, 2012 02:34 PM (jtdSY)

224 >>>Mathilda May walking around buck naked for a good half the movie was a selling point.

I now have a new #1 queued movie.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at June 26, 2012 02:34 PM (0q2P7)

225 Raquel Welch looked pretty good on Seinfeld. In 1998.

Hard to think of too many women who have aged better than her. And considering how hot she was in her peak . . . wow

Posted by: The Q at June 26, 2012 02:34 PM (B/yDO)

226 french men just look too goddamn french. somehow the female french phenotype has been able to avoid those frankish facial features that bestow a permanent expression of having just opened a particularly pungent wheel of roquefort on french men. it's like their faces are laterally compressed, complete with the expected corollaries of bulging eye sockets and extended nasal cartilage. my fiancÃ© has some serious french heritage, but he looks just american. he's really pretty, but he's really ruggedly handsome, too. he's sort of perfect. >.> and grace kelly...isn't that princess grace???? was she supposed to be a whore???? she's so well-remembered even among royals...i guess for the commoner-makes-good strain...so i never thought she was a whore o.o anyway, she was only french by marriage. i assume by "kelly" that she was irish by ancestry.

Posted by: jimi ray at June 26, 2012 02:35 PM (79EF9)

227 two Turks, two Poles, and an African in their starting 11.

Posted by: The Q at June 26, 2012 06:33 PM (B/yDO)

Sounds like Sandra-Dee Flukenfluffer's date night.

Posted by: model_1066 at June 26, 2012 02:35 PM (YbQJm)

228

France has a deep and storied tradition of 'sharing' its sovereignity. The most recent example was called Vichy and they 'shared' it with the Wermacht.

Gotta love those Frenchies. Just give them some wine and cheese and you can trample all over them.

*Spit*

Posted by: LGoPs at June 26, 2012 02:36 PM (+Uv5V)

229 Paulina Porizkova said that the first time she saw Ric Ocasek she thought he was the sexiest man she had ever seen. I think she's a little crazy. But yeah... she was gorgeous, both her and squeaky little Kathy Ireland.
Wonder if Ocasek and Porizkova have any daughters? What would that bizarre gene pool produce?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 02:36 PM (r4wIV)

230 230 two Turks, two Poles, and an African in their starting 11.
Posted by: The Q at June 26, 2012 06:33 PM (B/yDO)

Sounds like Sandra-Dee Flukenfluffer's date night.

At least I got out of that one!

Posted by: The Chicken at June 26, 2012 02:36 PM (nBfxt)

231 OT, but when is the Pentagon going to "celebrate" Hetero Pride Month? I am Hetero and I am proud! LOOK AT ME! I AM HETERO AND I AM PROUD!

Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 26, 2012 02:37 PM (jucos)

232

'Everything I have I owe to Spaghetti.'

- Stuff Sophia Loren Said Vol. 1 - ed i

Posted by: garrett at June 26, 2012 02:37 PM (TmLJz)

233

The thing is --- the size of the EU debt cannot be orderly disbursed through a new political union although, it will be attempted. To say these times are of epochal consequence would belie the actual tidal wave of economic reality the world is presently in.

To suggest this is on a scale of biblical proportions of the consequences and impact typically reserved for fiction and screenplays would be more on par of the tenuous times we now find ourselves in.

Take the present time as a time of reflection and introspection as the current construct of systems and conventions are dancing on a knife's edge awaiting to catalyze into a grand fusion of an economic impact that will leave us wondering how we got here but leave us turning away from liberty to solve our self-induced destruction --- which for some has always been the end game, for in the waxy state of chaos power will be sucked up through a ugly, ugly, ugly political straw.

Posted by: Scandia at June 26, 2012 02:37 PM (QWOh7)

234 If I could wave a magic wand and pick a new face, I think I'd pick Maureen O'Hara or Vivien Leigh, but Ann Margaret is gorgeous, too, and she seems as though she's just all around adorable and charming, too.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 26, 2012 02:37 PM (3inkD)

235 Well folks I can't stand it any more. Too damn nice outside.

Posted by: Vic at June 26, 2012 02:38 PM (YdQQY)

236 Watch Boy on a Dolphin with Sophia Loren for the ultimate wet tee shirt scene.
Vivien Leigh played a spoiled little idiot too well in Gone With the Wind for me to ever like her. Some roles are just too convincing.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 02:38 PM (r4wIV)

237 @232 - I don't know but I would have never expected Steven to produce a Liv. Ouch.

Posted by: teej at June 26, 2012 02:39 PM (ETWo2)

238 At least I got out of that one!

Posted by: The Chicken

You know, I have to admit: I am curious...doing anything Friday?

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at June 26, 2012 02:39 PM (lyStv)

239 I can see Ocasek, he's got that rugged Johnny Cash thing going on, although he is wayyyyy too skinny for me.

I forgot about Paulina; she is stunning.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 26, 2012 02:39 PM (3inkD)

240 Regarding the French economy and Europe, here's what I wrote recently on my little blog:
Europe is like Wiley E Coyote running on thin air after the Roadrunner. He hasn't looked down yet, he can keep going, but eventually - soon - the entire economy is going to take that 1000 foot plunge to the desert floor. Propped up by America's insatiable hunger for cheap goods, China's economy has been built up on a house of cards, but there's signs its beginning to fall apart. If Europe craters, America will be pulled off the edge its teetering on right now, and China will go with it.
And the great depression will look like happy times when that happens. So ultimately, who wins what presidency and how the Supreme Court decides is not incredibly significant, in the grand scheme of things. It probably won't even matter in a decade or so. I pray I'm wrong, but I just don't see it playing out any other way.
That's why I'd rather talk about Grace Kelly's naughty escapades.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 02:40 PM (r4wIV)

241 Re: 162-Jean DuJardin in "The Artist" is good looking Frenchman as well as a good actor.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 26, 2012 02:41 PM (+CXC6)

242 French actors aren't good looking enough because the French like to foster some sense of mystique about themselves as somehow knowing lovers-- if it came down to simple looks, they could be driven off the screen. So they pretend it's a cool, an irony, a world-weariness, usually with men who look like baggy-faced barbers.

Posted by: nickless at June 26, 2012 02:41 PM (MMC8r)

243

Carol Alt.

I used to deliver pizzas to her...

Always hoped she'd order one with extra sausage.

Posted by: garrett at June 26, 2012 02:42 PM (TmLJz)

244 @234 do you give that much of a fuck about your heterosexuality? let me be the first to clue you in: the very loud and very visible political homosexuality that like to shock with blowjobs on the parade float while going down fifth avenue is NOT characteristic of modern gay life. there are LOTS of faggoty faggy fags living ALL AROUND YOU that don't give enough of a fuck about their sexual or romantic proclivities to make them the single defining idiosyncrasy of their lifestyles. so, basically, feel free to start yourself a white pride month or a man-pride month or a straight-pride month and go march in the streets in response to all the percieved oppression to which you are subject. it's likely people will take you even less seriously than they take the gay pride revelers...but if you can find enough people who want so much to be politically divisive attention whores in the vein of militant homosexuality, go for it.

Posted by: jimi ray at June 26, 2012 02:42 PM (79EF9)

245 I don't know but I would have never expected Steven to produce a Liv. Ouch.

The thing is that you can see him in her once you know. In fact, I think she was watching something with Aerosmith, looked at Steven, looked in the mirror and said "ummm Mom?"

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 26, 2012 02:43 PM (Gk3SS)

246 Nice scoop Tammy. Maureen was teh hot from top to bottom. And in McLintock you get a twofer with her and Yevonne.

Posted by: teej at June 26, 2012 02:43 PM (ZhNCB)

247 Steven didn't expect to produce a Liv.

And hell, they did those videos with Liv as the teen stripper teaming up with Alicia Silverstone to be all sexy and criminal.

Casting your teenager daughter in that role means you still haven't accepted producing her

Posted by: The Q at June 26, 2012 02:45 PM (B/yDO)

248 Liv Tyler has the mouth, but that's about it. She had one of the few really pretty, sweet voices in modern entertainment too. Girls these days all seem to think they have to sound half alseep or I guess supposedly really horny with that drawl rasp in their voices.
The primary example of the voice I hate is Stephanie on Sons of Guns. I can't stand that affection. Just sound like a girl, for crying out loud.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 02:45 PM (r4wIV)

249 My point was that I cannot believe that the Pentagon is actually spending cash to throw parties for Gay Pride Month. It does boggle my mind a bit. I don't give a flying fuck what ANYONE does when they close their bedroom doors. Just don't expect me to celebrate it. I was pointing out the absurd by being absurd. I am sorry that it did not translate.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 26, 2012 02:45 PM (jucos)

250 >>Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 26, 2012 06:45 PM I knew what you meant and agree with you. It's ludicrous.

Posted by: Y-not at June 26, 2012 02:46 PM (5H6zj)

251 I agree Truck Monkey. This was obnoxious when it was just private citizens being stupid and offensive in public (and often criminal) but the way its being embraced by popular culture and the government is infuriating.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 02:47 PM (r4wIV)

252 Girls these days all seem to think they have to sound half alseep or I guess supposedly really horny with that drawl rasp in their voices.

I agree? Liv? Is not? An uptalker? You know? Gah, that drives me nuts.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 26, 2012 02:47 PM (Gk3SS)

253

Stephanie on Sons of Guns.

Hottest Eye Tooth on TV.

Posted by: garrett at June 26, 2012 02:47 PM (TmLJz)

254 Hey teej! I really do think Ms O'Hara was beeeyooteeful.

I remember watching Quiet Man on TV when I was little, and being so thrilled to see a red haired lady up there.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 26, 2012 02:48 PM (3inkD)

255 see him in her once you know. Dead on there. She definitely has his mouth. And she has that soft beauty that, well, fuggitaboutit.

Posted by: teej at June 26, 2012 02:49 PM (fdnD9)

256 @237 what we REALLY need is someone to audit the books in toto and found out how much of the debt is really recursive phantom money. digitisation made money move faster...which also made debt a lot more accessible. how much of the current "debt" on the books is down to entities holding a gun to each other's heads? i bet it's a lot more than one thinks. the problem is probably too complex to really be sorted through, unfortunately...and rent-seekers will NEVER cotton to giving up their digital claims on others' production, anyway. one suspects, having worked for three years in an investment bank, that the most "successful" players know they're just bleeding rent-interest off clients whose economic interests they could FAR better serve with deals less geared toward enriching the brokers who just happen to have access to enough of other people's money to lend out. no legal fiduciary duty in high finance? because it's an automatic conflict of interest?? what about the fucking therapist who stands to lose when you get well?

Posted by: jimi ray at June 26, 2012 02:49 PM (79EF9)

257 I think if someone opened the books on the US government our entire economy would collapse overnight because the bulk of the money is simply nonexistent. I don't mean "only in electronic form" I mean simply invented to fill in the legers. If the US Government was forced to the same standards of transparency and bookkeeping they do businesses it would all be over.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 02:52 PM (r4wIV)

258 I agree Truck Monkey. This was obnoxious when it was just private citizens being stupid and offensive in public (and often criminal) but the way its being embraced by popular culture and the government is infuriating.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 06:47 PM (r4wIV)

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All of us knew, deep down, that this shit was going to happen when the SCOAMT opened the military to gays. I really think it's part of the left's plan to denigrate and belittle everything Americans value. It's the marxist way. They're tearing my beloved country apart.

Posted by: Soona at June 26, 2012 02:52 PM (jtdSY)

259 If this thread is ending, we go out with Kate Upton:

http://youtu.be/iWeYcXNsBPI

Posted by: The Q at June 26, 2012 02:55 PM (B/yDO)

260 >>>do you give that much of a fuck about your heterosexuality?

I think his meta-humor point is that an end to discrimination means treating people with mutual respect and not subdividing folks into groups, e.g. it means an end to discrimination, i.e. purposefully pulling yourself out of a group for special recognition is itself discrimination against the group you purposefully separate from and just perpetuates feelings of exclusion both by the main body and by the smaller group, so at some point these pride/day/week/month affairs become destructive to their actual purpose of inclusion by perpetuating the exclusion.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at June 26, 2012 02:55 PM (0q2P7)

261 She's one of my all time favs Tammy. And as an aside, if I remember correctly, she was before Congress when they were going to give The Duke some sort of civilian medal and told them he would just want it to say - John Wayne - American

Posted by: teej at June 26, 2012 02:55 PM (0SHei)

262 @252 sorry, read you wrong. i'm in your boat on this one, and i always find these displays of "minority pride" to be little more than overblown displays of political contention. iono if that came thru in my characterisation of the gay pride parade, but i should make clear here that even tho i have a fiancÃ© (with just the one "e" xD), i don't have any use for the self-caricature of political homosexuality and pride movements. sorry i misread you, but you know, usually when people get to talking about the "majority-pride" movements they intend to start up, they're just playing the divisive angle from the other side of the coin. it is certainly absurd that the gov't entertains these sort of (usually) blatantly partisan "pride" movements, but i'd wager that the pentagon, even absent obama admin directives, is probably playing it safe given the ever-present shadow of judicial activism. if gov't celebrates black pride, DISPARATE IMPACT for not having the rainbow flags out for pride. again, let me be clear that i find it every bit as absurd as you do...but given the willingness of the court system in liberalised countries to kowtow to leftist special interest groups, you have to agree the the pentagon's hands are pretty tied.

Posted by: jimi ray at June 26, 2012 02:57 PM (79EF9)

263 I suspect the Pentagon desk riders are not entirely opposed to the PC agenda, to put it mildly. Two out of the last 3 presidents have been loading it up with politically promoted guys who will help them, shall we say, adjust the military more to their liking. And the guys who end up in the Pentagon aren't exactly hardy warriors.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 02:59 PM (r4wIV)

264 I can tell you that the reality of the situation is beyond mortifying. This is, in the purest sense, a grace period to get more than your pocket book in order.

Posted by: Scandia at June 26, 2012 03:00 PM (QWOh7)

265 171 Jean Reno was born in French North Africa of Spanish immigrant parents, so he's more of a Spaniard than a North African. A solid action star in the movie Ronin, written by David Mamet under a pseudonym.

Posted by: leftcoast at June 26, 2012 03:00 PM (tUMDJ)

266 he would just want it to say - John Wayne - American

Look up the youtube vid by John Wayne called The Hyphen.

Posted by: Retread at June 26, 2012 03:02 PM (I2fq9)

267 Hyphen. I'll try to remember tomorrow. On dumb phone (hey, it can't be any smarter than the user) with somewhat limited data. I just put it in for the pause. teej gets the feeling he should have used a comma.

Posted by: teej at June 26, 2012 03:06 PM (AiZkN)

268 Dammit, I missed today's fun thread.

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 26, 2012 03:10 PM (3AR7X)

269 @266 judging by the derision piled on the "secretary servicemen" by this one lieutenant i know really well, you're probably right. pentagon is apparently chock-full of bloodless bureaucrats with nothing better to do than advance a progressive agenda. i guess the courts are so much a threat as a valued collaborator. but, uhm... @261 uh, the military has always been "opened for gays"...at least open enough for them to come serve and die for their country. i know this lieutenant in the af REALLY WELL who has offered up much of himself in service to his country...to the point of having been seated near enough to a colleague literally ripped apart by an explosive device in iraq that he was covered with the dead man's flesh and blood. also, unlike a lot of military folks eager to prove their bad-ass bona fides, he will NEVER tell you about this incident unless you ask very specifically and are quite close to him...instead of considering himself a "victim" of military horror and sucking up PTSD dollars like a lot of modern military men...and surely he was traumatised by the incident!...this lieutenant considers what he calls the worst living nightmare of his life to be well within his scope of duty. given that the lieutentant was an academy officer and worked in intelligence, he was only in iraq because he VOLUNTEERED to join the boots on the ground...most air force intel officers were either back home behind desks or safely secured at "camp cupcake", a base in iraq whose real name i used to know. chances are that lieutenant was gay at the time of enrolment in the academy...and the time of the decision to volunteer his service on the ground in iraq...and at the time of this incident. with dadt repealed, now that lieutenant can finally bring his bratty, selfish little punk of a fiancÃ© to live with him on base if ever he is led to further selflessly offer his much-desired services to his country. ...man, that fag is just tearing this fucking country apart, isn't he? i mean, a patriots who has given so much to his country being allowed to bring his faggot gay FUTURE SPOUSE into taxpayer-subsidised military housing? GROSS tearing this fucking country APART!

Posted by: jimi ray at June 26, 2012 03:13 PM (79EF9)

270 The Hyphen by John Wayne

http://www.youtube.com /watch?v=_fuzLTrwVbc

Posted by: Retread at June 26, 2012 03:25 PM (I2fq9)

271 Well, thank you for your service, jimi ray and congratulations to you and your fiance on your upcoming nuptials.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 26, 2012 03:27 PM (3inkD)

272 Wonder if Ocasek and Porizkova have any daughters? What would that bizarre gene pool produce?

Wikipedia says they have two kids but didn't mention anything beyond that.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at June 26, 2012 03:29 PM (PMGbu)

273 "He said: 'This does not mean abandoning sovereignty, it is sharing.'" Cut out was where he also said "This does not mean abandoning monogamy, it is sharing."

Posted by: A. at June 26, 2012 03:32 PM (hLVcY)

274 WW III cooking up? France invading Germany this time?

Posted by: PJ at June 26, 2012 03:56 PM (DQHjw)

275 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: Steevy at June 26, 2012 04:01 PM (Ts9tU)

276 "Germany had an emotionally-wrenching experience with inflation in the 20s (and I imagine as WWII progressed) and they've made prudence their watchword since then."

Yes, prudence. With just the slight hiccup of electing a raving lunatic and mass murderer as the chancellor.

You bet, if it's one thing those Krauts are, it's prudent.

Posted by: Conan the Conservative Barbarian at June 26, 2012 04:06 PM (+XVQe)

277 speaking of der homeland (via yahoo news):

Circumcising young boys on religious grounds amounts to grievous bodily harm, a German court ruled Tuesday in a landmark decision that the Jewish community said trampled on parents' religious rights.

The regional court in Cologne, western Germany, ruled that the "fundamental right of the child to bodily integrity outweighed the fundamental rights of the parents", a judgement that is expected to set a legal precedent.

Posted by: mallfly at June 26, 2012 04:06 PM (bJm7W)

278 Arggh, off dang sock.

Posted by: Arms Merchant at June 26, 2012 04:07 PM (+XVQe)

279 Bureaucrats run everything anyway, so its not like there was any sovereignty left. Just look at Belgium. They put truth to the lie about "social democracy." Their elected parliaments don't run their country, the bureaucrats are running it without them. The same thing with the rest of Western Europe. This will not end well...

Posted by: The Political Hat at June 26, 2012 04:25 PM (XvHmy)

280 Oh, you want great movie with babe of babes?
Casablanca
Bergman[i\]

Sweet, just saw it ...again Sunday. One of the bosses and I were having dueling Casablanca quotes... "It not a parasite I mind ...it's a cut rate parasite that I object to."

Posted by: Paladin at June 26, 2012 04:49 PM (vOZi9)

281 I'll go with Ann Margret in the Train robbers. Where the Duke tell her to put on the shrunken red shirt, so that the bandits following...knows she's a...WOMAN!

Posted by: Paladin at June 26, 2012 05:14 PM (vOZi9)

282 (Late to the party, obviously...) European Monetary Union was a bad idea from the start. Those who know me know I denounced it long and forcefully once the idea was floated. The hallmark of intelligence is whether others agree with me, so, aside from Ace readers, look at the Europeans who told the Unionists, in their oh-so-civilized European manner, "Nei takk", variously translated. The French, it scarcely needs pointing out, have an aptitude for "ceding", except, perhaps, in the matter of wine: during the Nazi occupation, if memory serves, France managed to keep for herself 2 litres of wine (or was it more?) per man, woman, and child per day, with the rest going to the Nazis. Perhaps FranÃ§ois now wants Fritz to pay for that 2nd home FranÃ§ois has dans la campagne. If Europa goes for political union, we can see how long was the march the original Socialist/Unionists envisioned.

Posted by: Thorvald at June 26, 2012 05:19 PM (OhenJ)

283 Home rule!

Posted by: Thorvald at June 26, 2012 05:20 PM (OhenJ)

284 The French watched what the Greeks did and decided they wanted them some of that.

Germany really dodged a bullet when they failed to conquer Europe.
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Posted by: Voluble at June 26, 2012 06:17 PM (eOimU)

285 I think its safe to say that the euros with balls emigrated to America generations ago, or were slaughtered in the two World Wars...No fight left in these fuckers...They now seem desperate to relinquish their sovereignty to the EUSSR. The French should be careful what they wish for...Their generous perks of early retirement, short work weeks, and long vacays will not be tolerated by their Teutonic masters...

Posted by: Nozzle at June 26, 2012 06:21 PM (1GlXg)

286 Mostly slaughtered in the world wars, I think. All that was left were cowards, weaklings, and people who hid away and avoided dying in the wars. The academics, the artists, the leftists. So few men of honor and virtue were left that the "men without chests" as Lewis put it took over. There was no one to stop them.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 09:34 PM (r4wIV)

287 An unhappy and resentful Germany is not a good thing.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - awake and going strong at June 27, 2012 06:46 AM (hLRSq)

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