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April 30, 2012

Freedom Tower Nearing Completion
— Ace

This isn't really news, but it's worth mentioning.

I'm going to bold-face some words from this story.

Â“WeÂ’re looking to maximize revenue and maximize the reputation of 1 World Trade Center,Â” Douglas Durst, who is building the Freedom Tower in partnership with the Port Authority, told The Post.
The antenna business alone could easily rake in $10 million in revenue, estimates show.
...
Â“YouÂ’ve got to get people back to thinking of the trade center not as a site of an attack but as a center of commerce,Â” said one person who has been involved with the reconstruction of lower Manhattan.
Â“YouÂ’ve got to think about it as a real-estate thing. And real estate is transactional Â— itÂ’s about competition and retail and tourists.Â”

I don't know these people's politics. Given where they live, and their income level, I would put money on them being liberal Democrats.

So here's why I bolded those words:

The left frequently speaks as if Commerce Is Theft.

And yet here you have people, who I would bet are liberal, speaking of commerce and competition and "maximizing" revenue as if, get this, those are good things.

You will often hear Hollywood people demanding tax breaks for local production. Otherwise, they say, they cannot profitably make movies in the US, and will film them in Canada.

And then, having pronounced that Taxation Reduces Economic Activity, they will turn around and donate $1 million to Barack Hussein Obama.

In their hearts they know these things the left claims -- Commerce Is Theft, Profit Is Evil -- are false. In their daily lives, they know this.

But at voting time, they counterfeit their beliefs. They convince themselves that even though they know Profit is Not Evil, good people speak falsehoods, and good people declare things which are false to be true.

It's not true-- but good people insist it is. And so they do.

Very strange self-deception. And to what end? In what code is falsehood superior to truth?

Below, video of the tower, lower levels mostly finished, top levels still needing their skin.

Posted by: Ace at 10:39 AM | Comments (116)
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1 No, no...what they are doing is getting just compensation for deserving work. What everyone else is doing is stealing through obscene profiteering and speculation.

Cognitive dissonance easily removed!

Posted by: Coldstream at April 30, 2012 10:41 AM (qrCKL)

What does it matter?

90+% of this building will likely be filled with Government Agencies.

Posted by: garrett at April 30, 2012 10:42 AM (kZta5)

3 Socialism is not for the socialists. Socialism is for the little people.

Posted by: wooga at April 30, 2012 10:44 AM (vjyZP)

4 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 30, 2012 10:45 AM (8y9MW)

5 I don't know if you don't know this or if you're just being disingenuous, but the huge, vast majority of people on the Left do NOT believe that "commerce is theft" or that "profit is evil." There are extremists who believe and say extreme things. It is a mistake to assume that the vast majority of people on the Left or Right agree with the extremists.

Posted by: Ranginess at April 30, 2012 10:45 AM (1d6WV)

6 This is obscene.

They should have just made a park out of it.

Posted by: Tim Robbins, FAG at April 30, 2012 10:45 AM (gCa4h)

7 About damn time.

Posted by: folks who bulit the Empire State building in nearly one year at April 30, 2012 10:45 AM (mFHPT)

I am glad this tower is Finally being built.

By comparison in the 1960's we went to the moon in less than ten years.

The original towers took less time to build.

Posted by: rd at April 30, 2012 10:46 AM (9sUlj)

Posted by: Ranginess at April 30, 2012 02:45 PM (1d6WV)

Yeah, Ace!

Just because they elect representatives that espouse this stuff doesn't mean they believe it, themselves!?

Posted by: garrett at April 30, 2012 10:46 AM (kZta5)

10 I denounce myself in advance, but every time I hear "Freedom Tower," I recall Dyslexic Dubya right after 9/11 talking about the supposed Muzzie plot to attack the "Liberty Tower" in L.A., which was actually the Library Tower.

It was the only smile I had during those days.

Sorry, but I think "Freedom Tower" is a dumb damn name for the building. Better it had gone back to WTC.

I would, however, be 100% in favor of a nice, deep "Freedom Crater" glowing eerily at night in, say, Mecca.

Posted by: MrScribbler at April 30, 2012 10:47 AM (MQc8e)

11 @5 Too bad the extreme left is in control of the Dem party.

Posted by: real joe at April 30, 2012 10:47 AM (lgANn)

12 >>>>but the huge, vast majority of people on the Left do NOT believe that "commerce is theft" or that "profit is evil."

Absolutely right, ranger-dude. The money I make is earned in an honest attempt to enlighten the stupid masses through my art. It is not theft. It is not evil. It is righteous.

Koch brothers are evil though. That's just a given.

Posted by: Tim Robbins, FAG at April 30, 2012 10:47 AM (gCa4h)

13 Looks about 10 years too slow to me. Almost like it was built by a non-American culture... wait. New York State. Nevermind. Status quo.

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at April 30, 2012 10:47 AM (YSyyZ)

14 The American "can do" attitude is being strangled by regulations, bureaucracy, and the need to be fair and inclusive.

Posted by: rd at April 30, 2012 10:48 AM (9sUlj)

15 Only correct thinking people deserve profits. Everyone should know their class boundries. The common people will serve the elite.

Posted by: Soona at April 30, 2012 10:49 AM (AZdM4)

16 SCOAMT is campaigning his way through presser with Japanese PM. Possum-eating-shit smirk through lob set-up question re bin laden death, instructing us to look at what others have said ie Romney. Took no questions re China!

Posted by: Justamom at April 30, 2012 10:49 AM (Sptt8)

17 >>You will often hear Hollywood people demanding tax breaks for local production.

Iowa discontinued giving tax CREDITS after millions of dollars in fraud (producers claiming tax credits for personal vehicles for themselves and their children, that sort of thing).

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at April 30, 2012 10:50 AM (ZKzrr)

18 204Anyone else see the connection between Obama essentially dancing on Bin Laden's grave and the soldiers who got busted for doing the same thing but more literally? Obama is a dog-eater who celebrates the death of Muslims, tell your Liberal "friends".

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 30, 2012 02:41 PM (hiMsy)

-------

This is such an excellent point.....I thought it deserved to be carried over to this thread.

There were O-supporters dancing in the streets, celebrating the death of Bin Laden....just like we see people in muslim countries doing over the death of Americans. ....It was sort of creepy to me, even though I was glad he was dead.

And Barky was quick to go to Ground Zero, as a part of his "I killed Bin Laden Tour" last year.

So...prosecuting our soldiers, for essentially doing the same damn thing, is yet another outrage against our military folk, imo.

Posted by: wheatie at April 30, 2012 10:50 AM (cB+Hn)

19 This is news to me, primarily since I haven't been there since about 2004-5, when it was still just a hole.

Posted by: Fritz at April 30, 2012 10:50 AM (KWdVT)

20 Fuck em. I would have built one small building, one building as tall as WTC, and the two shorter buildings. oOoo

Of course, I would have it facing Mecca. You know, out of respect.

Posted by: momma at April 30, 2012 10:50 AM (oKsWl)

21 The American "can do" attitude was killed by the Unions. ~~is being strangled by regulations, bureaucracy, and the need to be fair and inclusive.~~

Posted by: garrett at April 30, 2012 10:51 AM (kZta5)

22 >>> but the huge, vast majority of people on the Left do NOT believe that "commerce is theft" or that "profit is evil." There are extremists who believe and say extreme things.

"At some point, you've made enough money." - President B. H. Obama, (D-not an extremist.)

Posted by: Prez. Killah B! at April 30, 2012 10:51 AM (gCa4h)

23 When the World Trade Center was completed it was the tallest building in the world.

I know it would have been problematic to do that again, given the target it presents, but this just seems like a let-down. It's just not the same.

Posted by: AD at April 30, 2012 10:51 AM (ZlrvH)

24 Crap! ....Pixy is really fucking with me today....eating my spaces, eating my posts altogether. ....The suckage is irritating.

Posted by: wheatie at April 30, 2012 10:51 AM (cB+Hn)

25 >> I don't know if you don't know this or if you're just being disingenuous, but the huge, vast majority of people on the Left do NOT believe that "commerce is theft" or that "profit is evil."

The people they vote for do.

Posted by: Andy at April 30, 2012 10:51 AM (5Rurq)

26 Liberalism is a mental illness.

Posted by: toby928© at April 30, 2012 10:51 AM (NG097)

27 It is hard to understand how any true businessman can vote for Democrats. I understand how liberals can fool themselves into supporting stupid causes like gun control or green energy. Its because they think the law will not apply to them. But how can a real buisness man vote for the commies?

Posted by: Vic at April 30, 2012 10:52 AM (YdQQY)

28 FWIW, media in NY is calling it One WTC and not Ground Zero anymore.

Posted by: real joe at April 30, 2012 10:52 AM (lgANn)

I don't understand the liberal mind. I've never thought that way, so I just don't understand how they don't get the connection between tax breaks for making movies, but then arguing for higher taxes. That being said, I think some of it is they truly believe they are owed certain things. The government must dole out such largesse to certain people, and they have paid the penace to be on the receiving end. They know it works, but they don't want all to benefit. Because if they don't get it freely from the government, they will have to work for it. So yes, a tax break helps me. But if everyone got the tax break, that wouldn't help me. Because that is illogical, they then demand that other support the people they are actively trying to screw over. They are all for union solidiarity to raise the meager salaries of those who work on movies, but they will not give up some of their millions or their royalties.

Posted by: SH at April 30, 2012 10:52 AM (gmeXX)

30 22 >>> but the huge, vast majority of people on the Left do NOT believe that
"commerce is theft" or that "profit is evil." There are extremists who
believe and say extreme things.

"At some point, you've made enough money." - President B. H. Obama, (D-not an extremist.)

Posted by: Prez. Killah B! at April 30, 2012 02:51 PM (gCa4h)

pwned

Posted by: EC at April 30, 2012 10:53 AM (GQ8sn)

31 vast majority of people on the Left do NOT believe that "commerce is theft" or that "profit is evil.

First: as has been pointed out: then why do they vote for people who do believe that?

Second: that's actually the point of Ace's post. Reading comprehension is kind of a minimum requirement for the blog- we're unclear often enough that if you don't even keep up with what's actually written, you'll never follow an argument from one end to the other. His whole point was that they don't believe those things- they don't act that way in their own lives, but then they turn around and vote that way. Every. D*mn. Time.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 30, 2012 10:54 AM (8y9MW)

32 Because that is illogical, they then demand that other support the people they are actively trying to screw over. Posted by: SH

It all makes sense if you remember that liberalism is a mental illness.

Go ahead, try arguing with one and then come back and tell me different.

Speaking of which...where is raykon these days?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 30, 2012 10:55 AM (sbV1u)

33 [sarcasm]The only part of commerce that is good is that which puts money in my hands. All other commerce only enriches thieves and politicians to the detriment of the working class.[/sarcasm]

Posted by: Jay Bee at April 30, 2012 10:56 AM (Xwgt3)

34 26 Liberalism is a mental illness. Posted by: toby928Â© at April 30, 2012 02:51 PM (NG097) And it's spread by not eating meat killed by your own hands --- pass it on

Posted by: The Robot Devil at April 30, 2012 10:56 AM (136wp)

And just today I read a story in Breitbart or The Blaze where someone in the intelligence business said that AQ is in the process of planning another terrorist attack using aircraft.

Posted by: Soona at April 30, 2012 10:56 AM (AZdM4)

36 So What's The Matter With Manhattan? Since obviously those effette soy latte sippers are voting against their economic interest and all.

Posted by: alexthechick at April 30, 2012 10:57 AM (VtjlW)

I am still pissed about Barky proclaiming the date of 9/11 as some sort of Commie holiday from now on.

"National Day of Service" sounds like something from the USSR, or China.

It makes me cringe now, whenever I see something like this....about the rebuilding of Ground Zero. ....Damn him.

Posted by: wheatie at April 30, 2012 10:57 AM (cB+Hn)

38 Real Quote from an Actual Liberal: "The economy may not be a zero-sum game, but it acts like one in a lot of ways."

No. They don't think profit is wrong at all.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 30, 2012 10:57 AM (8y9MW)

39 "Douglas Durst, who is building the Freedom Tower in partnership with the Port Authority, told The Post." I think wealthy Robert Durst (Doug Durst's brother) was the commie man who raped and murdered a few women. He was released and not charged.

Posted by: Lampshade at April 30, 2012 10:58 AM (lkdo/)

40 vast majority of people on the Left do NOT believe that "commerce is theft" or that "profit is evil."

I'll take "The Rogue's Gallery AKA the Congressional Socialist Caucus" for every dime you have, Trebek.

Posted by: fluffy at April 30, 2012 10:58 AM (z9HTb)

41 It's just not the same.

Posted by: AD at April 30, 2012 02:51 PM (ZlrvH)

THIS.

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at April 30, 2012 10:58 AM (Aaxiu)

42 25, so if profit is taxed, then those who tax it must think it is evil? Then apparently both Republicans and Democrats think that income and the sale of goods is evil. Of course they don't. Get it?

Posted by: Ranginess at April 30, 2012 10:58 AM (1d6WV)

43 So What's The Matter With Manhattan? Since obviously those effette soy latte sippers are voting against their economic interest and all. Posted by: alexthechick

But they are not voting against their psychic interest, and that's really what's going on. Spreading other people's money around makes them feel better about having money.

It's also all about pulling up the ladder behind them after they've made their pile. Now that they're well off, they're all about confiscatory taxes and over-regulation, because that makes it harder for other people to get to the same level of wealth that they have.

See? It's for the children. It's all very simple really.

/sarc

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 30, 2012 10:59 AM (sbV1u)

Seeing this in person down by Wall Street is pretty great. The size is pretty impressive.

Posted by: Heralder at April 30, 2012 10:59 AM (/Mxso)

45 "...lower levels mostly finished, top levels still needing their skin."

Sounds like we're talking about Nancy Pelosi, doesn't it?

Posted by: dfbaskwill at April 30, 2012 11:00 AM (71LDo)

46 where someone in the intelligence business said that AQ is in the process of planning another terrorist attack using aircraft.>>

If the source was the TSA their probably just trying to grow the groping business.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 30, 2012 11:00 AM (tf9Ne)

No doubt arguing with a liberal is useless. Here is what I truly find hard to understand. How do people who were once conservative become liberal? The quick answer is because the left promises them something they don't already have - whether it be media attention (Huffington), roles (actors), tenured tracks (professors), free benefits (most Democratic voters), but why do people earning a good living in the private sector vote Dem? I just don't get it.

Posted by: SH at April 30, 2012 11:01 AM (gmeXX)

48 All trolls are Average Joe.

Posted by: toby928© at April 30, 2012 11:01 AM (NG097)

49 How about we call it"World Trade Center II - Suck It, Mohammed!" What do you think, too timid?

Posted by: Insomniac at April 30, 2012 11:01 AM (v+QvA)

50 so if profit is taxed, then those who tax it must think it is evil?

***TWEEE-EEEEEET***

Straw man in the comment. Loss of down.

Replay and address Andy's point.

Posted by: fluffarree at April 30, 2012 11:01 AM (z9HTb)

51 apropos of nothing: Average Joe volunteers his services as a person of cock sucking.

25, so if profit is taxed, then those who tax it must think it is evil? Then apparently both Republicans and Democrats think that income and the sale of goods is evil. Of course they don't. Get it?

Are you trying to be stupid? Really, if you're trying, you're doing it really well.

If you're not... well, you're really gifted.

No one is arguing that taxation should cease- but we are arguing against the redistributive policies of the idiot (malfeasant) Liberals. It wasn't a Republican who said, "At some point, you've made enough money," or "I pay less taxes than my secretary."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 30, 2012 11:01 AM (8y9MW)

52 Seeing this in person down by Wall Street is pretty great. The size is pretty impressive. Posted by: Heralder

Women often have that reaction when they see me naked.

Posted by: Preznit Barky's Big Stick at April 30, 2012 11:02 AM (sbV1u)

53 All trolls are Average Joe.

^^^

not me

Posted by: Meow Mix at April 30, 2012 11:02 AM (pLTLS)

54 >>>so if profit is taxed, then those who tax it must think it is evil? Then apparently both Republicans and Democrats think that income and the sale of goods is evil. Of course they don't.

What part of "At some point, you've made enough money." don't you understand, you stupid fuck?

I get to decide when you've made enough profit, and then the rest of what you earn belongs to me...uh.. I mean.. the government.

Posted by: President B.H. Obama (D-not an extremist) at April 30, 2012 11:02 AM (gCa4h)

55 35 And just today I read a story in Breitbart or The Blaze where someone in the intelligence business said that AQ is in the process of planning another terrorist attack using aircraft. I'm sure President Obama is aware and probably thinking, "I hope they don't hit a Democrat stronghold". A normal American, after hearing the above info, would think, "I hope we kill them all so that they don't hit America." I leave it to you to reach reasonable conclusions.

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at April 30, 2012 11:02 AM (YSyyZ)

If Lefties didn't believe that commerce was evil or profit a dirty word, Obama would never have gone so far (and stupidly) overboard with the Buffett Tax. It raises miniscule revenue but it appeals to the envious Left. Can you tell us what other purpose was behind that besides smacking success upside the face?

You have a very tough sale to make, Ranginess.

Posted by: spongeworthy at April 30, 2012 11:02 AM (r5w1L)

57 Tag Fail.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 30, 2012 11:03 AM (8y9MW)

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at April 30, 2012 11:03 AM (Aaxiu)

59 The Italicans have taken over!

Posted by: Insomniac at April 30, 2012 11:03 AM (v+QvA)

60 Who stressed things out with the eye talics?

Posted by: jwb7605 at April 30, 2012 11:03 AM (Qxe/p)

61 fucking A, people

Posted by: fluff at April 30, 2012 11:03 AM (z9HTb)

Seeing this in person down by Wall Street is pretty great.

If only the commercial real estate market wasn't in the gutter...

Posted by: garrett at April 30, 2012 11:03 AM (kZta5)

63 eyetalicans are for closers. Someone turn the run off, please.

Posted by: DC in Key West at April 30, 2012 11:04 AM (Btj8t)

64 If the source was the TSA their probably just trying to grow the groping business.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 30, 2012 03:00 PM (tf9Ne)

---------------------------------------------

It was John Brennen. But he's a SCOAMT stooge, so it's basically the same thing.

Posted by: Soona at April 30, 2012 11:04 AM (AZdM4)

65 All trolls are Average Joe.
Posted by: toby928Â© at April 30, 2012 03:01 PM

Except for the Cat-Piss Troll....

Posted by: MrScribbler at April 30, 2012 11:04 AM (MQc8e)

66 Women often have that reaction when they see me naked.

Posted by: Preznit Barky's Big Stick at April 30, 2012 03:02 PM (sbV1u)

We know you're only half black, don't get too ahead of yourself.

Posted by: Heralder at April 30, 2012 11:05 AM (/Mxso)

67 Run, rain whatever. Spelling is for losers.

Posted by: DC in Key West at April 30, 2012 11:05 AM (Btj8t)

68 Except for the Cat-Piss Troll....

yes, and raykon. Even AJ can't do parody that well.

Posted by: toby928© at April 30, 2012 11:05 AM (NG097)

69 "Ahhh! Look, my brothers!"

[ Al Qa'eda type, hovering over a flickering laptop screen, bottom-lit to emphasize harsh features ]

"Another ripe target the infidels have erected for us! "

Posted by: Sphynx at April 30, 2012 11:06 AM (fEmj2)

70 We know you're only half black, don't get too ahead of yourself. Posted by: Heralder

Someone needs to tell Slow Joe Biden that. He seems to think otherwise.

Either that or he has a depth perception problem.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 30, 2012 11:07 AM (sbV1u)

And just today I read a story in Breitbart or The Blaze where someone in the intelligence business said that AQ is in the process of planning another terrorist attack using aircraft.

Not on our watch, even if we have to grope the crotch of every pre-school kid in the country!

Posted by: The TSA at April 30, 2012 11:07 AM (v+QvA)

72 Â“YouÂ’ve got to get people back to thinking of the trade center not as a site of an attack but as a center of ~~commerce~~ trade,Â”

Or ... "a place down the street from a victory mosque".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 30, 2012 11:08 AM (X3lox)

73 SH. I have worked for a few large companies. I have seen senior executives/CEOS's having frequent meetings with governors, senators, cogressman etc. Government relations if a major part of massive corporations. Senior executives working for private companies FREQUENTLY side with democrats/progressives. Going green is big in corporate America these days. Companies negotiate tax breaks and special favors with government officials. I was lucky because i was able to eat the leftover food from some meetings. Really good food

Posted by: Lampshade at April 30, 2012 11:09 AM (lkdo/)

Speaking of which...where is raykon these days?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 30, 2012 02:55 PM (sbV1u

He/she is now ranginess

Posted by: Thurston Howell III at April 30, 2012 11:09 AM (mFxQX)

75 Obama Czar, Anita Dunn (D - non extremist) "...two of my favorite political philosophers, Mao and Mother Teresa..."

Posted by: polynikes at April 30, 2012 11:09 AM (Uc9Jc)

76 He/she is now ranginess Posted by: Thurston Howell III

"It" will always be "raykon" to me.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 30, 2012 11:10 AM (sbV1u)

Profit is Evil (unless it's coming to me).

Everyone Should Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes (and by "fair" I DO mean that's it's "fair" for OTHER people to pay, especially if I'm envious of their wealth).

Posted by: Optimizer at April 30, 2012 11:10 AM (As94z)

78 The left love the word "commerce". They apply it to everything ... in order to illegally invoke the dreaded "Commerce Clause" and put all trade to an end. They just hate the meaning of "commerce". It's a semantic thing.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 30, 2012 11:13 AM (X3lox)

79 @73. I fully understand why some "businesspeople" are liberals and democrat voters. At least some of them have principles. Many don't and will simply suppor the party in the majority. They just want the government to hand them something. A tax break, an antitrust case against their competitor, a regulation that prevents further competition, etc. So I just answered my own question.

Posted by: SH at April 30, 2012 11:13 AM (gmeXX)

80 I'm wondering how many companies wanting space in that tower will have people refusing to work there.

Posted by: Soona at April 30, 2012 11:13 AM (AZdM4)

81 It's called 1 WTC.

Freedom Tower is just a nickname, as far as I can tell.

We should check with curious.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 30, 2012 11:14 AM (nEUpB)

82 OT

Stakelbeck on Terror: Biological Terror Next Big Threat?http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/212101.php

Posted by: momma at April 30, 2012 11:15 AM (oKsWl)

83 Its called pretzel logic. No need to hurt yourself performing the mental gymnastics to understand the liberal mind. Just know that it is inherently Eeeevil.

Posted by: dananjcon at April 30, 2012 11:15 AM (eavT+)

84 72.....Or ... "a place down the street from a victory mosque".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair

Did they go ahead with that? ....Haven't heard anything else about it, but I may have missed it.

How is it that someone didn't annoint that site with some buckets of pig blood. .....That's what people in Spain have been doing, to sully the sites of proposed mosques....and prevent them from happening.

Posted by: wheatie at April 30, 2012 11:15 AM (cB+Hn)

85 We should check with curious Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative)

Please, no. Anything but that.

Then I'll have to listen to a three-hour discourse on the relative merits of OxyClean and baking soda versus hydrogen peroxide when it comes to removing cat piss.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 30, 2012 11:16 AM (sbV1u)

86 Posted by: Soona at April 30, 2012 03:13 PM (AZdM4)

Fine.

I'll take their job.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 30, 2012 11:16 AM (nEUpB)

87
The Balls!!

Posted by: Al Qaeda at April 30, 2012 11:16 AM (KNvk+)

88 80 I'm wondering how many companies wanting space in that tower will have people refusing to work there.

Posted by: Soona at April 30, 2012 03:13 PM (AZdM4)

Gonna be a lot of ghosts.

Sad.

Posted by: dananjcon at April 30, 2012 11:17 AM (eavT+)

89 It's called 1 WTC.

Freedom Tower is just a nickname, as far as I can tell.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 30, 2012 03:14 PM (nEUpB)

Meh. The World Trade Center was really just the Twin Towers. It isn't the World Trade Center without them, no matter what the legal name is. If they wanted it to be the same, they should have rebuilt the twins, taller (though it's sort of silly competing in skyscrapers when they are bulding half-mile tall buildings in the middle of the friggin desert ... the guys who took the Twin Towers down, interestingly ... seriously. The Bin Laden group has the contract for the 300 story Saudi tower going up in a wasteland. Yep.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 30, 2012 11:18 AM (X3lox)

90 Freedom Tower is just a nickname, as far as I can tell. We should check with curious. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 30 I don't care what its called I think I can fit it inside me

Posted by: Cee Cee at April 30, 2012 11:18 AM (4SbfU)

91 Posted by: dananjcon at April 30, 2012 03:17 PM (eavT+)

Yes, but it is also a big "fuck you" to the muzzies.

Way, way too late for my taste, but still...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 30, 2012 11:18 AM (nEUpB)

92 If it's just a nickname I will start calling it the Crusader Tower.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 30, 2012 11:19 AM (tf9Ne)

...testing

...testes

Posted by: wheatie at April 30, 2012 11:19 AM (cB+Hn)

94 I'm wondering how many companies wanting space in that tower will have people refusing to work there.

I wouldn't work there for two reasons, and neither of them have to do with being built on "ground zero."

One- it's in NY, and that's a non-starter for me.
Two- BUILDINGS SHOULDN'T SWAY!!!! I'm mostly fine with heights (don't ask me about step-ladders, though), but when I feel a building swaying under me, I can't get down to the ground floor fast enough.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 30, 2012 11:19 AM (8y9MW)

95 Way, way too late for my taste, but still...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 30, 2012 03:18 PM (nEUpB)

----------------------------------------

There should have been two towers, and they should have been built within 5-6 years of the attack. This is a blatant statement about the so-called "tough New Yorker".

Posted by: Soona at April 30, 2012 11:22 AM (AZdM4)

88 80 I'm wondering how many companies wanting space in that tower will have people refusing to work there.

Posted by: Soona at April 30, 2012 03:13 PM (AZdM4)
**

Gonna be a lot of ghosts.
Sad.

Posted by: dananjcon at April 30, 2012 03:17 PM (eavT+)

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Wow. I hadn't thought of that. .....I wonder if any of the workers have seen strange stuff happening?

Posted by: wheatie at April 30, 2012 11:23 AM (cB+Hn)

97 This is a blatant statement about the so-called "tough New Yorker".

Look for the union label.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 30, 2012 11:24 AM (8y9MW)

98 "share your pie", "you've made enough,"

Posted by: willow at April 30, 2012 11:28 AM (TomZ9)

99 There should have been two towers, and they should have been built within 5-6 years of the attack. This is a blatant statement about the so-called "tough New Yorker". Posted by: Soona

The Empire State building was built in 16 months in the middle of a depression. The design took 2 weeks.

The Hagia Sophia (Justinian's version) was built in 5 years. Think about that. No modern equipment, no vehicles. Just by hand.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 30, 2012 11:28 AM (ebPtk)

100 Wow. I hadn't thought of that. .....I wonder if any of the workers have seen strange stuff happening?

Posted by: wheatie at April 30, 2012 03:23 PM (cB+Hn)

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I think they have. It was called #OWS.

Posted by: Soona at April 30, 2012 11:28 AM (AZdM4)

101 One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest - Live at 4 PM
Paul (Krugman) vs. Paul (Ron) on Bloomberg TV
Livestream here: http://www.bloomberg.com/tv/
Make sure the kiddies are not in range of the telly!

Posted by: jeannebodine at April 30, 2012 11:29 AM (byR8d)

102 Gonna be a lot of ghosts.
Sad.

Posted by: dananjcon at April 30, 2012 03:17 PM (eavT+)

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Wow. I hadn't thought of that. .....I wonder if any of the workers have seen strange stuff happening?

Posted by: wheatie at April 30, 2012 03:23 PM (cB+Hn)

Regardless if you believe in that kind of stuff or not. There will be many stories. kind of creepy and definately sad.

Posted by: dananjcon at April 30, 2012 11:31 AM (eavT+)

103 SH. I have found most small companies (Under 500 employees) to be conservative and have little government involvement. This is my personal work experience. Big companies are totally different with government relationships.

Posted by: Lampshade at April 30, 2012 11:31 AM (lkdo/)

104 The ghost hunter shows will probably be lining up to do shows there.

Posted by: wheatie at April 30, 2012 11:35 AM (cB+Hn)

105 My idea for the replacement was one tower filling the block and the tallest building in the world, with the space previously occupied by the twin towers empty inside. Two vast hollows, hallowed but not overcome.

Posted by: toby928© at April 30, 2012 11:35 AM (NG097)

106 47 No doubt arguing with a liberal is useless. Here is what I truly find hard to understand. How do people who were once conservative become liberal? ........ but why do people earning a good living in the private sector vote Dem? I just don't get it. Posted by: SH at April 30, 2012 03:01 PM (gmeXX) Because it gets them out of having to do their duty towards their fellow man. I see this *All. The. Time.* amongst regular folks. They don't want to have to take care of grandma and grandpa so vote D and let the rely on SSI and Medicare. Don't wannabes to give up your own time or money helping the starving folks down the road? Vote D and we'll do it for you! Etc, and so on. It's stems from that feeling that monstrous have that *someone* should do something about x problem, but a lot of folks don't want that someone to be them and are perfectly happy handing over some of their freedoms to Uncle Sam so they don't have to think about it or look at it or do anything about it.

Posted by: Mandy P., long-time lurker at April 30, 2012 11:35 AM (qFpRI)

107 I swear to everything that is holy, autocorrect hates me.

Posted by: Mandy P., long-time lurker at April 30, 2012 11:37 AM (qFpRI)

108 Lol Mandy .... My iPhone auto correct is evil

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 30, 2012 11:43 AM (r4fB1)

109 Â“YouÂ’ve got to get people back to thinking of the trade center not as a site of an attack but as a center of commerce,Â”

First thought as a survivor: Go fuck yourself.

Try to erase those first-hand memories from your head fuckstick. Then sit on the fucking antennae.

It will forever be the place where Muslim extremists made an unprovoked, unprecedented, despicable attack on this country. A symbol for which men have fought and died since September 11th. A place where innocent men. women and children, yes children, were murdered.

No amount of turbaned shitheads selling burnt fucking pretzels from a potential CBIED (CART BORNE IMPROVISED EXPLOSIVE DEVICE) or fancy pretend-chic top floor restaurant for all those swarmy-ass liberal assclowns will change that.

Yes and ACE you are completely right.

Posted by: Exile at April 30, 2012 11:47 AM (ZQzsy)

110 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at April 30, 2012 01:47 PM (7W3wI)

111 Aw geeze, do we have ta call it the "Freedom" tower? How about the "fuck Mohammad" tower instead?

Posted by: mojo at April 30, 2012 02:24 PM (geHtZ)

112 I did not read all the comments, but fuck, to understand the liberal mind; substitute the word conservative for liberal in Aces's post. Do you morons still think the GOP is any damn good? Boner in the House, McConnel, Lott in the Senate. What could Liberals possibly be thinking? How does the Lib mind work? Fuck.

Posted by: nip at April 30, 2012 03:54 PM (FW9+c)

113 A good part of the reason the construction has been taking so long is that the owners know the WTC will be a terrorist magnet. Have you seen how they're constructing it? It's not really obvious to casual inspection but the guys building it mean business. Lower windows are blast-proof plastic, not glass, for example, and the reinforced concrete is extra-thick with way oversized reinforcing steel. WTC-2 is a bit shorter than the old WTC-2, though. I would have at least matched the height.

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