October 18, 2012
— Ace And it's welfare, not Social Security or Medicare.
It includes both federal and state spending.
One.
Trillion.
Dollars.
In.
One.
Year.
I forgot to include the below in the Gallup post. Please excuse this inadvertent oversight.
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Posted by: lorien1973 at October 18, 2012 10:22 AM (mcWHD)
Posted by: Mycroft at October 18, 2012 10:23 AM (MtA8f)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 18, 2012 10:23 AM (+tqYo)
Posted by: steevy at October 18, 2012 10:23 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: rickl at October 18, 2012 10:24 AM (zoehZ)
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Ali Muhammad Surpra-izi Amin U'rbu T'hol wright at October 18, 2012 10:24 AM (ovpNn)
Who's laughing now, sucker?
Posted by: Norman Mailer at October 18, 2012 10:24 AM (DLu2s)
Posted by: BuckNutty at October 18, 2012 10:24 AM (m59PH)
Posted by: Sheriff Joey at October 18, 2012 10:24 AM (NWLVJ)
Posted by: uterus cannon at October 18, 2012 10:24 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Mr. Dave in SPI at October 18, 2012 10:25 AM (OBDWE)
Posted by: steevy at October 18, 2012 10:25 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: Cleveland Voter at October 18, 2012 10:25 AM (/YJYi)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 18, 2012 10:25 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: Meremortal, at the bus stop at October 18, 2012 10:25 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: president downgrade at October 18, 2012 10:25 AM (evdj2)
There are a helluva lot of people out there having to swallow their pride because they have children to feed and can't find a fucking job.
Reminds me of the Dinner Table ad.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 18, 2012 10:26 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: The printing press at the Fed at October 18, 2012 10:26 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: t-bird at October 18, 2012 10:27 AM (FcR7P)
My schoolbus driver neighbor brought her bus home today and parked it on the street.
Should a make a sign with an arrow pointing under it?
Whose name should I put on it?
Posted by: Meremortal, bus stop, bus go... at October 18, 2012 10:27 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 18, 2012 10:27 AM (piMMO)
"As I have said for years, we need a lifetime cap on Welfare. Pick a total length - 1 year, 5 years, 10 years. Start the clock in Jan of the coming year. At the end of the time - no more period."
I think an "accept welfare in exchange for your vote" program would be an instant winner. Most of America's problems would evaporate.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 18, 2012 10:27 AM (TpXEI)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 18, 2012 10:27 AM (8y9MW)
people might have noticed how fkd they are.
Posted by: willow at October 18, 2012 10:28 AM (hX8cq)
Posted by: wheatie at October 18, 2012 10:28 AM (ipkPX)
Hahahaha. Bill Clinton today in Ohio with Springsteen: "Obama hasn't fixed the economy".
http://preview.tinyurl.com/9tpaap9
Posted by: Ian S. at October 18, 2012 02:18 PM (rPA5/)
From the last thread. Bill is starting the payback machine.
Posted by: rd does not trust the MSM at October 18, 2012 10:28 AM (zLp5I)
Posted by: uterus cannon at October 18, 2012 10:28 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the only cure at October 18, 2012 10:28 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Max Power at October 18, 2012 10:29 AM (q177U)
Posted by: Portnoy at October 18, 2012 10:29 AM (Kgrin)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 18, 2012 10:29 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at October 18, 2012 10:29 AM (Kqtqx)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 18, 2012 10:30 AM (bg/Pg)
This is just disgusting. There is enough entrepreneurial spirit in this country that this SHOULD NOT HAPPEN. I'm sure a lot of the people getting these welfare checks are leeches, but I guarandamntee you there are a HELLUVA lot who would prefer to have a job again so they could provide for their own families instead of leaning on the government. THOSE are the people who have my sympathies and prayers.
We need to get this asshat and his pet clown out of office NOW.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 18, 2012 10:30 AM (4df7R)
That does seem excessive. (Progg spin: You greedy reich-wingers want to put more people out of work with your baby-killing!)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, predenounced for your convenience at October 18, 2012 10:30 AM (/kI1Q)
***
God help us if Obama gets four more years to finish what he started.
It reminds me of the inscription on Terry Schiavo's grave.
"I kept my promise"
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 18, 2012 10:30 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the only cure at October 18, 2012 10:30 AM (AZGON)
Seriously, this is approaching the point of no return. There may be no way to climb down from this limb of dependency.
Eventually the limb breaks.
Posted by: Meremortal, moving out from under at October 18, 2012 10:30 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Justamom in Achin' Akin's district at October 18, 2012 10:31 AM (Sptt8)
Posted by: BinderBabe USA at October 18, 2012 10:31 AM (DO0cA)
You've run out of lies.You've run out of time.
Posted by: steevy at October 18, 2012 10:31 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the only cure at October 18, 2012 10:31 AM (AZGON)
http://tinypic.com/r/34raxqe/6
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There it is! I tried to find one earlier but couldn't.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 18, 2012 10:31 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: rabidsquirrel at October 18, 2012 10:31 AM (YQ4mh)
His plan? That's been the Democratic Party plan since Woodrow Wilson.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 18, 2012 10:32 AM (SY2Kh)
For gawd's sake, don't tell the nitwit what number comes after trillions.
Posted by: GnuBreed at October 18, 2012 10:32 AM (ccXZP)
Posted by: willow at October 18, 2012 10:32 AM (hX8cq)
Why, yes, I do have a post up about that. But I don't cut to the bone quite the way Ace can.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 18, 2012 10:32 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 18, 2012 02:31 PM (piMMO)
despite what obama says, I made that
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 18, 2012 10:32 AM (8sCoq)
''Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN) passed on a collection of 45 Muslim potential hires to President Obama. The effort to match these 45 individuals with jobs inside the administration was moving slowly and quietly until White House officials recently sped the process up.''
They better hurry to get that 90 day job.
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 18, 2012 10:33 AM (feFL6)
What happened to shame?
America's unique achievements are possible partly because of our institutional, legal, social, economic, and spiritual heritage. Our forbears struck delicate and sensible balances between freedom and order and between pioneering enterprise and social conservatism. We upset these balances at our risk. An unreasonable bias for "change" can lead to impulsive and destructive changes which can upset the social balances.
Harmful changes instigated by well-meaning reformers can rend the social fabric and destroy the fortuitous matrix of cultural, social, and spiritual elements which have made possible our freedom, order, and prosperity. Hasty "reform" can kill the goose which lays the golden eggs. The liberal myth of "root causes," helps to keep the bandwagon for "change" rolling.
Asshats. All of them.
Posted by: sickinmass at October 18, 2012 10:33 AM (CFi9O)
This is Cloward-Piven come true. How the f**k did we let this happen?
(That is a rhetorical question)
Posted by: LGoPs at October 18, 2012 10:33 AM (BJVEF)
"quadrillion"
No kidding. Quarter quadrillion of unfunded liabilites almost sounds manageable. Quadrillion's only got eleven letters and it's just a quarter of it.
Posted by: Beagle at October 18, 2012 10:33 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 18, 2012 10:33 AM (aHR5E)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 18, 2012 10:33 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: BinderBabe USA at October 18, 2012 10:33 AM (DO0cA)
Posted by: Isaac Davis White at October 18, 2012 10:33 AM (Dll6b)
Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at October 18, 2012 10:33 AM (he2LC)
Posted by: willow at October 18, 2012 10:34 AM (hX8cq)
Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 18, 2012 10:34 AM (tWrwm)
Posted by: mallfly at October 18, 2012 10:34 AM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 18, 2012 10:34 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Isaac Davis White at October 18, 2012 10:34 AM (Dll6b)
Posted by: polynikes at October 18, 2012 10:34 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the only cure at October 18, 2012 10:35 AM (AZGON)
and it's all because of POLITICS
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 18, 2012 10:35 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Dante at October 18, 2012 02:22 PM (NWLVJ)
I was surprised this never caught on. I think it's hilarious
Posted by: The Jackhole at October 18, 2012 10:35 AM (nTgAI)
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 18, 2012 10:35 AM (jUytm)
C'mon babe, follow me
I'm the Pied Piper, trust in me
I'm the Pied Piper
And I'll show you
Where it's at
Posted by: Greece at October 18, 2012 10:35 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: XML at October 18, 2012 10:35 AM (UZQM8)
It's a goddamn shame that country such as ours, so rich in natural resources and able-bodied workers, with such a huge technological advantage, should be in such a fucked-up economic condition
and it's all because of POLITICS
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 18, 2012 02:35 PM (8sCoq)
Well said
Posted by: The Jackhole at October 18, 2012 10:36 AM (nTgAI)
Posted by: © Sponge at October 18, 2012 10:36 AM (UK9cE)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 18, 2012 10:36 AM (aHR5E)
Go to BLS.gov and look at the yearly chart for those who have jobs in the US...
We've added about 8 million more people through Population growth, and legal immigration....
While having about 6 million LESS total people working... than in 2008...
THIS is why we have a Welfare Problem.
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 18, 2012 10:36 AM (lZBBB)
Imagine the total if this wasn't means tested. Sarc off!
Rush covered this in great detail this a.m. This is a huge effing deal. Obama thinks $1trillion isn't enough, he wants more. That's all stupid "undecided independent voters" need to know.
Posted by: runningrn at October 18, 2012 10:36 AM (WGmy2)
You dumb fuck. You get all pissy about big (fill in the blank) but when we bitch about big government you troll us like the pathetic retread you are. Short bus drop you off early today, snowflake?
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 18, 2012 10:36 AM (feFL6)
heh.(from the lib paper)
However, for all his efforts, ranging from the stimulus package to green-energy development, to bring us out of recession, he has never found the key. He has generally made poor choices of the people needed to get the job done, such as Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner. And the number of jobs created during his term simply has not kept up with demand.
Posted by: rain of lead at October 18, 2012 10:36 AM (uY3gJ)
Dead heat percentage-wise -- that means about 40% of that 1 Trillion goes to white people.
Posted by: BinderBabe USA at October 18, 2012 10:37 AM (DO0cA)
Posted by: TD, one of the proud 53% at October 18, 2012 10:37 AM (+uFux)
The link says "means-tested", so...maybe. (The trick is to only pay yourself enough cash for Christmas presents and pay for all your living expenses (house, cars, utilities, etc) out of the farm business account...then your personal tax return shows your kids qualify for free lunch and SCHIP and whatnot)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, predenounced for your convenience at October 18, 2012 10:37 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Redd at October 18, 2012 10:37 AM (RoEtU)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 18, 2012 10:38 AM (aHR5E)
Posted by: Max Power at October 18, 2012 10:38 AM (q177U)
Posted by: Norman Mailer at October 18, 2012 02:24 PM (DLu2s)
Weren't you the landlord in Three's Company?
Posted by: © Sponge at October 18, 2012 10:38 AM (UK9cE)
Posted by: polynikes at October 18, 2012 02:34 PM (m2CN7)
It's worse than that. the bulk of the money goes to administer the programs. Kind of like those charities that distribute 3% of what they collect to their recipients.Posted by: Roger Moore Foundation at October 18, 2012 10:38 AM (1Y+hH)
75 An accompaniment to the post: http://bit.ly/SyvnjQ
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 18, 2012 02:33 PM (piMMO)
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Ace doesn't like that 'Dinner Table' video, though....said it was 'too subtle', or something.
Posted by: wheatie at October 18, 2012 10:38 AM (ipkPX)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the only cure at October 18, 2012 10:39 AM (AZGON)
Did you type this on a keyboard made of hemp you grew and processed yourself?
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, predenounced for your convenience at October 18, 2012 10:39 AM (/kI1Q)
C'mon babe, follow me
I'm the Pied Piper, trust in me
I'm the Pied Piper
And I'll show you
Where it's at
Posted by: Greece at October 18, 2012 02:35 PM (1Y+hH)
More like:
You take a mortal man,
And put him in control
Watch him become a god
Watch peoples heads a'roll
Just like the Pied Piper
Led rats through the streets
We dance like marionettes
Swaying to the Symphony ...
Of Destruction
Posted by: The Jackhole at October 18, 2012 10:39 AM (nTgAI)
I'm off all big gubmint. Including big breaks for companies outsourcing to India, big oil breaks, big breaks to GE. That's bipartisan wefare, and it's more far reaching than making sure some infant gets food.
Posted by: BinderBabe USA at October 18, 2012 10:39 AM (DO0cA)
Posted by: Norman Mailer at October 18, 2012 02:24 PM (DLu2s)
You got that messed up a little bit....
Posted by: Mormon Nailer at October 18, 2012 10:39 AM (1Y+hH)
at politico
get in line to vote for Teh One, ladies
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 18, 2012 10:40 AM (8sCoq)
I am old enuf to remember when welfare or ANY public assistance was a bad word.
What happened to shame?
There isn't any. That's the problem. That is why we have "EBT debit cards", Real Housewives, The Jersey Shore, etc. We need good, old fashioned shaming to make a resurgence in America.
Posted by: runningrn at October 18, 2012 10:40 AM (WGmy2)
Yep, that's it. It's not his fault, he just hired the wrong people. Could happen to anyone. No, it's not germane that, upon discovering their deficiencies, he didn't fire them.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 18, 2012 10:40 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 18, 2012 10:40 AM (aHR5E)
That is, have we reached a situation where the citizen here is as dependent for goodies and money from gubmint as in Europe? How does one measure that?
By the candidate that they elect on 11/06/2012
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at October 18, 2012 10:40 AM (R8hU8)
If we're gonna be critical of government money, it should be spread across the board, no?
Posted by: BinderBabe USA at October 18, 2012 10:40 AM (DO0cA)
Posted by: maloderous at October 18, 2012 10:40 AM (p2s4o)
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There is nothing subtle about it. The actors are very skilled at portraying the fear and shame associated with their predicament.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 18, 2012 10:41 AM (piMMO)
I'm not sure that the '96 welfare reform bill applies to those.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 18, 2012 10:41 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Havedash at October 18, 2012 10:41 AM (BRhGr)
I am old enuf to remember when welfare or ANY public assistance was a bad word.
What happened to shame?
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Shame had been losing ground since Wilson. But the word was wiped out of our vocabulary with LBJ and the "Great Society".
Posted by: Soona at October 18, 2012 10:41 AM (UhlFE)
Posted by: runningrn at October 18, 2012 10:42 AM (WGmy2)
Posted by: maloderous at October 18, 2012 10:42 AM (p2s4o)
Posted by: Marty Robbins at October 18, 2012 10:42 AM (RoEtU)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 18, 2012 10:42 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Vizzy at October 18, 2012 10:42 AM (H0lcY)
With the exception of GE (which goes straight to SCOAMT's cronyism) name one. Name a single "big break" which would encourage off-shoring, or (beyond deductions everyone else gets, too) that "big oil" gets.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 18, 2012 10:42 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 18, 2012 10:42 AM (jUytm)
Posted by: Ed Gibbon at October 18, 2012 10:42 AM (4eNxd)
You take a mortal man,
And put him in control
Watch him become a god
Watch peoples heads a'roll
Just like the Pied Piper
Led rats through the streets
We dance like marionettes
Swaying to the Symphony ...
Of Destruction
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Yes. Mustaine. One of ours.
Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 18, 2012 02:40 PM (aHR5E)
He actually called out Obama at a concert I attended a while ago
Posted by: The Jackhole at October 18, 2012 10:42 AM (nTgAI)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 18, 2012 02:42 PM (PHb2k)
you're gonna need a bigger binder
-Chief Brody
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 18, 2012 10:43 AM (8sCoq)
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yeah I know....... but think of the damage we could do to this blog with an "edit your post feature".....
Posted by: fixerupper at October 18, 2012 10:43 AM (C8hzL)
Posted by: BinderBabe USA at October 18, 2012 10:43 AM (DO0cA)
Posted by: maloderous at October 18, 2012 10:43 AM (p2s4o)
Posted by: Joe "Horse's Ass and Teeth" Biden at October 18, 2012 10:43 AM (/YJYi)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 18, 2012 10:44 AM (da5Wo)
Apparently, cooking food from scratch is not expected.
Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at October 18, 2012 10:44 AM (he2LC)
Posted by: Ian S. at October 18, 2012 10:44 AM (rPA5/)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 18, 2012 10:44 AM (f9c2L)
No, I don't subscribe to your idiot notion that All Belongs to the State. Stop mistaking tax policy for spending.
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 18, 2012 10:45 AM (POGCP)
Posted by: Tami at October 18, 2012 10:45 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: LGoPs at October 18, 2012 02:33 PM (BJVEF)
By electing the feckless, larcenous and cowardly to office.
By allowing them to excuse themselves from their duty to the country in the name of money being available for your locale.
The dependent state isn't just those on welfare. It's companies who sign up for incentive programs. It's farmers who sign up for subsidies.
It's people accepting government money because "everyone else is doing it, might as well get some for myself".
It's the acceptance in the House of set asides from a bill for use in another congressman's district in return for his vote.
Ditto the Senate.
It's union members allowing their union to buy and sell votes.
It was all good until the underpinings were knocked out and now all that "money" has gone bye bye and the chickens are flocking in the distance. (no we haven't seen the worst yet).
Don't point any fingers at anyone but yourself when you look for who to blame for this mess.
Yes, there are particular groups who are more visible and some who were at the forefront but we've all watched it happen and done nothing.
Posted by: Jcw46 at October 18, 2012 10:45 AM (Vh0f5)
Posted by: Binder & Binder at October 18, 2012 10:45 AM (aHR5E)
Being the biggest industry being demonized today, we realize many people may be hostile to our point of view. But at one point, before the digital age, we were essential to office organization and not just a place to stuff lady parts.
Posted by: BIG BINDER at October 18, 2012 10:46 AM (WGmy2)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 18, 2012 10:46 AM (DGIjM)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the only cure at October 18, 2012 10:46 AM (AZGON)
But only retreaded liberals can see that as some SPECIAL tax break.
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 18, 2012 10:47 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the only cure at October 18, 2012 10:47 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 18, 2012 10:47 AM (DGIjM)
Posted by: maloderous at October 18, 2012 10:47 AM (p2s4o)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 18, 2012 02:44 PM (f9c2L)
80% of people think they are not in the 47% percent
Posted by: The Jackhole at October 18, 2012 10:47 AM (nTgAI)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 18, 2012 10:47 AM (wtvvX)
You can't be serious?
I can feed a family of four extremely well on $600/month.
That would include things like steak and fresh fish and fresh vegetables.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 18, 2012 10:47 AM (2b4yb)
Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at October 18, 2012 10:47 AM (he2LC)
..........
Yeah.. but whites make up 75% of the country.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 18, 2012 10:47 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 18, 2012 10:47 AM (aHR5E)
Posted by: runningrn at October 18, 2012 02:42 PM (WGmy2)
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Just remember. He wouldn't have done it if not for a repub congress bitch-slapping him into doing it.
Posted by: Soona at October 18, 2012 10:47 AM (UhlFE)
How the f**k did we let this happen?
Posted by: LGoPs at October 18, 2012 02:33 PM (BJVEF)
This is EXACTLY what the Founder's of this country SAID would happen, which is why they did NOT create a Democracy.... why it was a Privalege to Vote, not a Right (as Rights are natural, and the vote is somthing given you by your form of Government).
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 18, 2012 10:47 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Dr. Barack Evil, Pinky At Lips at October 18, 2012 10:47 AM (WGmy2)
Posted by: Frankie Laine at October 18, 2012 10:47 AM (RoEtU)
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I'm off all big gubmint. Including big breaks for companies outsourcing to India, big oil breaks, big breaks to GE. That's bipartisan wefare, and it's more far reaching than making sure some infant gets food.
Posted by: BinderBabe USA at October 18, 2012 02:39 PM (DO0cA)
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You're repeating some Liberal Talking Points...with those first two things.
Companies don't get "big breaks" for outsourcing jobs.
They just save on the ass-raping that the Dem-sponsored regs and taxes do to them.
Oh...and also the ass-raping from the Unions.
And what..."big oil breaks"....are you talking about?
There are some tax breaks for the small oil-industry companies, that allow them to expense capital expenditures...which is actually a good thing for the economy as a whole.
GE, you're right about.
They are sucking off the govt teat bigtime.
Posted by: wheatie at October 18, 2012 10:48 AM (ipkPX)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 18, 2012 10:48 AM (aHR5E)
When is the last time a welfare recepient created a job for you or provided a service to you, the person who is paying taxes for these entitlements? Welfare recipients, Corporations. One is not like the other.
Just a thought since we are talking about welfare. I wonder if J.K. Rowling ever paid back the British government for the time she was on the well publicized Welfare period.
Posted by: polynikes at October 18, 2012 10:48 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: holly binders! at October 18, 2012 10:48 AM (WR5xI)
>>One Trillion Dollars. That's a big welfare binder.
And so many of them ready to learn, ready to teach your kids [how to get welfare]
Posted by: uterus cannon at October 18, 2012 10:49 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 18, 2012 10:49 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at October 18, 2012 10:49 AM (SO2Q8)
I don't know why sophisticated bloggers can't do a modicum of research.
Posted by: BinderBabe USA at October 18, 2012 10:49 AM (DO0cA)
Posted by: Lincolntf at October 18, 2012 10:49 AM (HethX)
Just remember. He wouldn't have done it if not for a repub congress bitch-slapping him into doing it.
Yeah, I know that. Congress and a deep desire to get re-elected (and if you listen to Dick Morris, he thinks he was the one who talked Clinton into doing it). Still, it was his one good achievement, and TFG has rendered Clinton legacy-less (as well as his repeal of "DADT", etc.)
Posted by: Dr. Barack Evil, Pinky At Lips at October 18, 2012 10:49 AM (WGmy2)
"Just a thought since we are talking about welfare. I wonder if J.K. Rowling ever paid back the British government for the time she was on the well publicized Welfare period."
Provided she pays taxes to the British government (which maybe she has a creative accountant), she's paying it back and then some.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 18, 2012 10:49 AM (TpXEI)
Posted by: The man with the golden welfare at October 18, 2012 10:49 AM (PHb2k)
Posted by: madamex at October 18, 2012 10:49 AM (e9LVX)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 18, 2012 10:50 AM (aHR5E)
Welfare is the biggest stimulator of the economy. Think of the millions of EBT cards the were used to start up small businesses all over this great land of ours.
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at October 18, 2012 10:50 AM (C8hzL)
Posted by: Tami at October 18, 2012 02:45 PM (X6akg)
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Just saw that. Good for them.
Posted by: Soona at October 18, 2012 10:50 AM (UhlFE)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 18, 2012 10:50 AM (Yvlb0)
Oops, dumb sock!
30 That's about $7000/yr per person with a job. That's quite a tab!
Yeah, Rush said if you took the real cash from those programs and just gave them to the people they are designed to help, you could lift them all out of poverty.
Posted by: runningrn at October 18, 2012 10:50 AM (WGmy2)
What, are we just throwing in random lyrics now? OK....
There's so many of us. There's so many others. There's so many.
There's so many of us. There's so many others. There's so many.
There's so many of us. There's so many others. There's so many.
There's so many of us. There's so many others. There's so many.
Let's have a war;
Sell the rights to the networks.
Let's have a war;
Let our wallets get fat like last time.
Let's have a war;
Give guns to the queers.
Let's have a war;
The enemy's within.
It already started in the city.
Suburbia will be just as easy.
Posted by: uterus cannon at October 18, 2012 10:51 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: BinderBabe USA at October 18, 2012 10:51 AM (DO0cA)
Posted by: BinderBabe USA at October 18, 2012 02:43 PM (DO0cA)
Yep, and Global Warming is STILL happening!
And.... we love you.... no shit....
And we won't c...
Posted by: IPCC at October 18, 2012 10:51 AM (lZBBB)
One of them got divorced last year after six years and two kids.
Guess who just wound up preggo by her new live-in boyfriend?
She claims she was taking the pill. My wife rolls her eyes telling me this.
Here is example 55,276,398 of the basic problem.....
Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 18, 2012 10:51 AM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 18, 2012 10:52 AM (DGIjM)
Posted by: BinderBabe USA at October 18, 2012 10:52 AM (DO0cA)
I hear all this bullshit about how the rich need to pay their fair share. Yeah? Well, when do I get my fucking fair share from the government? When does that happen?
Then there's this asshole on the TV telling me that he's cut taxes for the middle class and he's passed all these tax credits for small businesses. Oh really? I and my wife are middle class and we are both "small businesses."
And here I am, like a fucking idiot, paid more in taxes this year than last.
I guess we don't count.
And don't give me that bullshit about the promise of Social Security and Medicare. I know good damned and well that won't be there for me. Just this side of forty and just too damned young.
Again, I guess we don't count.
Well, I can count, I can count all the things I've gone without in the last 30-odd years, and now, all the things I'm not going to have in the next 30-odd years--all because I was a damned chump. I played by the rules, I worked hard, I sacrificed, I paid my bills first and cut back on the nice things when money is tight.
Where's my fucking handout?
Where's my fucking free phone?
Where's my fucking free house?
Where's all the shit I've been paying for all these years?
When do I get something back from the Federal government for all the money I've given them over the years?
Posted by: RoyalOil at October 18, 2012 10:53 AM (imtbm)
I'm mad as hell, and I'm not gonna take any more welfare.
Except for these food stamps. and this Obamaphone.
Posted by: Ms. W. Queen at October 18, 2012 10:53 AM (PHb2k)
Posted by: Ammo Dump at October 18, 2012 10:54 AM (YYyqq)
Posted by: Scobface at October 18, 2012 10:55 AM (IoNBC)
Food stamps do not buy McDonalds or BK, or anything prepared at the supermarket deli counter. So that's a dumb argument posed earlier.
Posted by: BinderBabe USA at October 18, 2012 10:55 AM (DO0cA)
Posted by: madamex at October 18, 2012 10:56 AM (e9LVX)
Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at October 18, 2012 10:56 AM (he2LC)
All energy is has been subsidized for decades. Thank a bipartisan congress that can always be sold to the highest bidder, and is bought off, no matter who is in charge.
Posted by: BinderBabe USA at October 18, 2012 10:56 AM (DO0cA)
Posted by: BinderBabe USA at October 18, 2012 10:56 AM (/YJYi)
Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at October 18, 2012 10:57 AM (he2LC)
Posted by: runningrn at October 18, 2012 10:57 AM (WGmy2)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 18, 2012 10:57 AM (DGIjM)
Yeah. This way they can make it last for a year.
The correct answer to poverty is to stop subsidizing it. It should be uncomfortable to be poor- that's a big motivator for not being poor.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 18, 2012 10:58 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: BinderBabe USA at October 18, 2012 10:58 AM (DO0cA)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 18, 2012 10:58 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: cajun carrot at October 18, 2012 10:58 AM (UZQM8)
Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at October 18, 2012 02:47 PM (he2LC)
See, the thing is, I'd never do that. There really ARE people who legitimately need assistance to make ends meet and feed their families. For them, using an EBT card WOULD be shameful, and they're the ones who want to get away from being on welfare as fast as possible. My family has been there; I wouldn't shame someone like that.
What's missing from our culture is PERSONAL shame. personal shame is reinforced by societal shaming, but it has to be something felt internally. That's what we need to get back. If you don't believe, inside yourself, that what you're doing is wrong, then no number of people berating you for it is going to get you to stop. You'll just feel bitter or derisive.
People treat shame like it's solely a negative, but that's not true. In the immediate it's negative, and it's very uncomfortable. But in the long-term, experiencing shame teaches a person greater respect for themselves and for those around them. This is called "character growth." Since regressives have no character, they don't understand it.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 18, 2012 10:59 AM (4df7R)
Your $4 billion of "subsidies" (actually tax policy, in non-Marx speak) will pay for 1/250 of actual welfare SPENDING. Keep fucking that chicken.
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 18, 2012 10:59 AM (POGCP)
It's not like the recipients don't have a lot of spare time on their hands that could be used in meal preparation.
But they live in food deserts!
Posted by: runningrn at October 18, 2012 10:59 AM (WGmy2)
One of them got divorced last year after six years and two kids.
Guess who just wound up preggo by her new live-in boyfriend?
She claims she was taking the pill. My wife rolls her eyes telling me this.
Here is example 55,276,398 of the basic problem.....
Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 18, 2012 02:51 PM (wtvvX)
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We cannot have fiscal conservatism without addressing social conservatism.
Posted by: Soona at October 18, 2012 10:59 AM (UhlFE)
Posted by: Lincolntf at October 18, 2012 10:59 AM (HethX)
So, Forbes announced that Ashton Kutcher is #1 on the highest paid actors list.
W.T.F.
Yeah, and you all thought we were nuts.
Posted by: The Mayans at October 18, 2012 11:00 AM (BrQrN)
Posted by: BinderBabe USA at October 18, 2012 11:00 AM (/YJYi)
Why is YJYi hacking my nic? Yeah, I posted an article that has a rep from the Heritage Foundation quoted that we should end subsidies to all forms of energy. There's the "one" someone asked about. The Heritage Foundation.
Posted by: BinderBabe USA at October 18, 2012 11:01 AM (DO0cA)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 18, 2012 02:58 PM (8y9MW)
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That was my motivator.
Posted by: Soona at October 18, 2012 11:01 AM (UhlFE)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 18, 2012 11:01 AM (DGIjM)
Posted by: madamex at October 18, 2012 11:02 AM (e9LVX)
I haven't bought oil since Saddam Hussein was President for Life of Iraq. At current prices it would cost $4,050 to fill my tank and be gone by April 15th. Along with just about the same amount to the Feds.
Do I get an EBT or 0bamaPhone? No, I get to subsidize the layabouts that troll this and every thread between now and Election Night, when their sweet sweet tears start rolling down their faces into their tenderloin steaks.
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 18, 2012 11:03 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: Havedash at October 18, 2012 11:04 AM (BRhGr)
Posted by: BinderBabe USA at October 18, 2012 11:04 AM (DO0cA)
Posted by: Museisluse at October 18, 2012 11:04 AM (bmm9Q)
Posted by: cajun carrot at October 18, 2012 11:05 AM (UZQM8)
Posted by: BinderBabe USA at October 18, 2012 02:55 PM (DO0cA)
And, you are full of shit.
Posted by: Ronster at October 18, 2012 11:06 AM (H5i76)
No more food stamps. But grocery stores all give out rice for free, paid for by the government.
No one goes hungry. If it's good enough for Survivor...
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at October 18, 2012 11:07 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: polynikes at October 18, 2012 11:08 AM (m2CN7)
Dreaming am I? I can make a 12" pizza -- including energy cost for less then one thin dollar. I have done the math, because I used to run a business before commie fuckheads like you came out of the public school system still unable to tie your own shoelaces.
Is it good? Unbelievable. Two day old (to build flavor) dough is painted with olive oil and crushed garlic. Two or three cheeses. Mushrooms. Pizza sauce. Four spices. To. Die. For.
But enjoy your Tombstone, loser. I paid for it, so I hope you choke on that cardboard taste.
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 18, 2012 11:10 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: polynikes at October 18, 2012 03:08 PM (m2CN7)
Maybe Barry explained economics to it
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 18, 2012 11:14 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 18, 2012 11:18 AM (aHR5E)
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You can buy a large, fully topped pizza at Walmart for $7. It might be difficult to recreate for that price.
I'm not making excuses, but having spent a number of my teenage years living with a single mom who alternated between employment and welfare, foodstamps do not provide for a king's feast.
I've passed a whole lot of judgement in my day on those who didn't work 14 hour days, as I did, to make sure my daughter never saw a foodstamp up close. I spent a lot of time criticizing those who needed help because of the few do-nothings I had met, but the truth is that not everyone on welfare is a lazy-good-for-nothing queen/king.
And...certainly not in this jobs market.
Today, I am sick and can no longer work an 8 hour day, much less 14 hour, 6 and 7 day weeks. I am drawing LTD as of this month and they require me to apply for SSI within 6 months. I have insurance, but I am still required to apply.
Be very careful about whom you judge because you can find yourself quite unexpectedly having to depend upon another.
It is a terrible and humbling experience.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 18, 2012 11:22 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 18, 2012 11:28 AM (aHR5E)
Like I said, further upthread, I HAVE done the math, and can make a pizza for right around one dollar. I have taught both of my children how to make a pizza for right around one dollar, even bought both of them a pizza peel.
What bugs the shit out of me is people who claim that 'Big Oil' is raping the consumer by adding about 50 cents per gallon to the cost of a gallon of gas -- an amount the goverment is pretty much matching with taxation, while Dominos can take a dollars worth of ingredients and sell it for 9.99 and there is no outrage or calls for 'excess profits' tax or elimination of 'subsidies'.
But math is hard, and most people choose the easy road.
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 18, 2012 11:38 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 18, 2012 11:39 AM (feFL6)
Double dittos.
I would have to presume that the one's who are the most vehement, scathing and vulgar about those on food stamps or welfare have been fortunate so far in life to come to a situation where that's the only choice they have.
That choice has had to be made by people who would've have laughed at you if you told them where they'd be now 5-6 years ago.
Yes being poor should be uncomfortable. It is. For those who revel in it, let them have their paltry victory for those who're a still stunned at what has happened to them, have pity for tomorrow you may join them.
The poor will always be with us. Just as there are the very rich, there are the very poor. Just as there are the lucky, there are the unlucky. Just as there are the very smart, there are the very dumb.
It's all a bell curve and most fall in the middle.
Anyone thinks that welfare is fun can go apply anytime. Or you can find out what the income limits are and try living on that for a while.
It's not fun. It's not easy and you're always a moment away from some disaster that you won't be able to pay for that will take away what little you have.
Anyone who curses the poor, deserving or not, is a piss poor human being.
Any fault concerning these programs inefficiency lies on the backs of those who wrote the laws, those who wrote the regulations and those who enforce and carry out those regulations.
curse them if you will but not the people in need.
Posted by: Jcw46 at October 18, 2012 11:46 AM (Vh0f5)
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at October 18, 2012 12:16 PM (1hM1d)
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THIS.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 18, 2012 12:27 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at October 18, 2012 12:47 PM (he2LC)
Would you offer someone a wine you made today? A beer brewed just this morning? People would say, "No thanks". Because they 'kinda get' the idea that the yeast in those items requires some time to do their thing and produce flavor.
So it is with the yeast in bread or pizza dough. I don't have the time to do true experimentation but my best pizza dough has usually sat in the frig for two or three days before making a pie. Right before the bag of dough begins to deflate is when the yeast are at their tastiest.
The difference between store bought frozen and homemade? Night and day. You pull that sucker from the oven and it looks alive, almost angry.
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 18, 2012 01:07 PM (feFL6)
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