November 27, 2012
— Ace Hounddog.
Flowers, who enjoyed a lucrative modelling and acting career as well as top book sales following her announcement in 1992, has claimed that Clinton called her as recently as 2005, begging to see her....
'I picked up the phone and it was him,' she told host Susan Roesgen. 'And he wanted to come by my house and talk to me. I was taken aback; that was the last thing I expected.'
She added that, even when she refused to allow him to visit, he persisted.
'I said, "No you can't come over here",' she continued. 'He said, "I'll put on a hoodie and I'll jog up there" and I said, "No, I want you to leave me alone". And that was that.'
Yes, the Clinton marriage is as strong as ever. The media says so and everything.
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Susan Roesgen, the former CNN scrunt who got in the face of the Tea Party dad in Chicago?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 27, 2012 04:34 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 27, 2012 04:34 PM (uhAkr)
Still, I'd have a smidge (just that) of respect for her and her white trash husband if they'd admit they're not actually together anymore and split.
And if I never, ever had to see or hear either one of them again it would make the next four years of our national nightmare a little easier.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 27, 2012 04:36 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Ben at November 27, 2012 04:37 PM (xTHBC)
Posted by: eman at November 27, 2012 04:37 PM (bWwMZ)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 27, 2012 04:37 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: EC at November 27, 2012 04:38 PM (doBIb)
Clinton marriage strong. Check.
Hillary Clinton is one of the smartest people in the government. Check
Bill Clinton is a much admired American Statesman, who campaigned successfully for Barack Obama. Check
This is the interior logic of the Democrat Left. It is of course, self-re-inforcing. To prove that one of the above logical assertions is incorrect may cause them to question their interior thoughts and their exterior world view.
Which is why this will never be a story in the Mass Bullshit Media. We can look at this and say, "yup, that's who he is", but who else will ever notice or care?
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is Eddie Willers at November 27, 2012 04:39 PM (Md8Uo)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 27, 2012 04:39 PM (LnQr8)
Posted by: eman at November 27, 2012 04:40 PM (bWwMZ)
Posted by: EC at November 27, 2012 04:41 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: alexthechick at November 27, 2012 04:41 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at November 27, 2012 04:41 PM (Eww/X)
Posted by: fluffy at November 27, 2012 04:41 PM (3SvjA)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 27, 2012 04:41 PM (piMMO)
Aren't they supposed to be tolerant and accepting of any sort of behavior? Fool around on your wife? Big deal, to them. You're Mormon and married faithfully to your wife for 40+ years? OMG. What's wrong with them? Boring!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 27, 2012 04:42 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 27, 2012 04:42 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: tsj017 at November 27, 2012 04:43 PM (vOH26)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 27, 2012 04:44 PM (6JMZR)
Posted by: wargasmguy at November 27, 2012 04:44 PM (lIh1y)
Posted by: eman at November 27, 2012 04:44 PM (bWwMZ)
I saw Megyn Kelly do that story yesterday, and it brought me to tears. I'd pray to have that woman's courage.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 27, 2012 04:44 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 27, 2012 04:45 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 27, 2012 04:45 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 27, 2012 04:47 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 27, 2012 04:48 PM (6JMZR)
Where do people such as her come from?
Yeah, yeah, but we're still going with Sandra Fluke. Now there's a hero!
Posted by: Time Magazine at November 27, 2012 04:50 PM (2IW5Q)
Posted by: Alex of house at November 27, 2012 04:51 PM (aPAIU)
Posted by: steevy at November 27, 2012 04:52 PM (9XBK2)
Sweet jeebus......liberalism truly is a mental illness.....
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 27, 2012 04:52 PM (UOM48)
They might have foneboned and that brought on the heart attack.
(I don't think Flowers is much more credible than Clinton.)
Posted by: boulder hobo at November 27, 2012 04:53 PM (QTHTd)
But you can't push Willy round
Willy won't go, try tellin' everybody but, oh no
Little Willy, Willy won't go home
Posted by: Sweet at November 27, 2012 04:53 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Butters at November 27, 2012 04:53 PM (NIZHJ)
Posted by: Alex of house at November 27, 2012 04:54 PM (aPAIU)
Posted by: Alex of house at November 27, 2012 04:54 PM (aPAIU)
The marriage is complete fiction, the political partnership is very strong.
Posted by: @PurpAv at November 27, 2012 04:54 PM (B7joV)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at November 27, 2012 04:54 PM (Eww/X)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 27, 2012 04:55 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Alex of house at November 27, 2012 04:55 PM (aPAIU)
Brave, educated, determined, dedicated, giving, bad-ass, and beautiful, all in one package.
...and she makes cute babies, too. Her son will break a lot of hearts real soon.
Posted by: John Doe at November 27, 2012 04:55 PM (lOmbq)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 27, 2012 04:55 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: steevy at November 27, 2012 04:55 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Mr pink at November 27, 2012 04:57 PM (fR/Fp)
I remember that this is what right-wing reactionaries were saying about homosexuals in the early 1990s. That if one perversion was given the status of "orientation", they all would be.
Posted by: boulder hobo at November 27, 2012 04:57 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Alex of house at November 27, 2012 04:57 PM (aPAIU)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 27, 2012 04:57 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: steevy at November 27, 2012 04:58 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Alex of Media Rape at November 27, 2012 04:58 PM (aPAIU)
Yikes.
Posted by: Fritz at November 27, 2012 04:59 PM (d8K+M)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 27, 2012 04:59 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: fluffy at November 27, 2012 08:35 PM (3SvjA)
BINGO
Posted by: Mongerel at November 27, 2012 04:59 PM (YqWfw)
Posted by: steevy at November 27, 2012 05:00 PM (9XBK2)
Here's an idea...why don't all the Mexican people move to the US and leave the country for American conservatives? Once you killed the cartels and got rid of their screwy government, it could be a showplace for the free market.
Posted by: Palandine at November 27, 2012 05:00 PM (g7D8V)
Posted by: Alex of Media Rape at November 27, 2012 05:01 PM (aPAIU)
Posted by: Alex of Media Rape at November 27, 2012 05:01 PM (aPAIU)
Here's an idea...why don't all the Mexican people move to the US and leave the country for American conservatives? Once you killed the cartels and got rid of their screwy government, it could be a showplace for the free market.
Posted by: Palandine at November 27, 2012 09:00 PM (g7D8V)
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In! We can speak English, right?
Posted by: USS Diversity at November 27, 2012 05:03 PM (9ghZ6)
Posted by: Alex of Reality land at November 27, 2012 05:04 PM (aPAIU)
Posted by: Alex of Reality land at November 27, 2012 05:04 PM (aPAIU)
Mexico America has oil, gold, priceless historic sites, access to two oceans, and indescribable beauty. It's a crime that it's the shithole it is, rather than a thriving democracy. If there were a thousand people like that brave mayor that was murdered who were ruthless as well, they could get rid of the cartels Democrats and Progressives. The Mexican American people could then overthrow their corrupt government and create one that could be the envy of the world. They won't, though.
FIFY
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 27, 2012 05:04 PM (lOmbq)
Posted by: Bill Clinton's Penis at November 27, 2012 05:04 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Butters at November 27, 2012 05:05 PM (NIZHJ)
Oh, yes, yes they do indeed. They also tell me about Ahmardinnerjacket's nukes, the unbreakable bond of friendship and common ground with the Likud government, and Barack Obama's second term plans.
Posted by: Gerbil Malodor, Esq. at November 27, 2012 05:05 PM (T5dvf)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 27, 2012 05:05 PM (piMMO)
In the Constitutional Republic of Mexico, English will be the official language. We will not create a permanent underclass by having more than one official language.
Posted by: Palandine at November 27, 2012 05:06 PM (g7D8V)
Prison isn't about "reform", its about sequestering people who society believes don't deserve to be a part of it.
Prisons are very efficient at isolating undesirables from civil society while prisoners are incarcerated.
Posted by: @PurpAv at November 27, 2012 05:06 PM (B7joV)
Posted by: Alex of Reality land at November 27, 2012 05:06 PM (aPAIU)
Mexico is the way it is because the culture is rotten. It is a very heirarchal structure that remains from the Spanish conquest, even though that sort of heirarchy died in Spain earlier in the 20th century.
There is no notion of a country outside of the class you were born in. There are no national ideals or values that transcend class or racial identity. The descendants of the Spanish have money and position. The rest, not so much.
This is not exactly what will happen to our country, but the outcome will be something similar based on the self-identification with certain political and moral relativistic ideas. And social mobility will die, and our descendants will be stuck in place.
Stuck in place is why Mexico sucks, the cartels are so violent, and the people have no allegiance to the Federal Government. The cartels are like the Reivers in the Firefly universe. They are totally atavistic and don't give a damn about anything but themselves because that is the only way they can give the middle finger to the people who are at the top of Mexican society.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is Eddie Willers at November 27, 2012 05:08 PM (Md8Uo)
Posted by: stace, FYI, I'm a skirt at November 27, 2012 05:08 PM (m+UHL)
BackwardsBoy, there's too many people in this country who want their free shit and will fight the productive to keep it. Let's have the folks from Mexico who also want free shit move up into the States, and we hated conservatives can have Mexico. We'll be like the Israelis--take a hellhole and convert it into a showplace in one generation.
Posted by: Palandine at November 27, 2012 05:08 PM (g7D8V)
So if you previously scored a little strange in 92, does it still count as a little strange in 13 years later?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 27, 2012 05:09 PM (n/ubI)
Completely agree. Sodomy is an act, not an affliction, not an orientation, not an identity. Sodomy should be punishable by law.
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Oh come on. Then there'd be no sitcoms!
Posted by: USS Diversity at November 27, 2012 05:10 PM (9ghZ6)
Posted by: webb Hubell at November 27, 2012 05:11 PM (Zd/NW)
I have no allegiance to the US Federal government, and why should I? I have allegiance to the American people, and the land, but the junta in power in D.C. right now can suck my dick.
Posted by: @PurpAv at November 27, 2012 05:12 PM (B7joV)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 27, 2012 05:13 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: @PurpAv at November 27, 2012 05:14 PM (B7joV)
So if you previously scored a little strange in 92, does it still count as a little strange in 13 years later?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 27, 2012 09:09 PM (n/ubI)
Bill has had so much strange, I think his dick has probably forgotten more scamper than it could remember, so yeah, it would qualify as some "strange".
Posted by: MrCaniac at November 27, 2012 05:14 PM (Zd/NW)
Posted by: BurtTC at November 27, 2012 05:15 PM (BeSEI)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 27, 2012 05:16 PM (lOmbq)
People can't help their orientation, but the abuse of the unprotected can be avoided.
Prison does not change orientation.
It is a strange country when less then 4 % of a population can cause so much hand-wringing and anger.
Posted by: Palm Beach Pooter Hound at November 27, 2012 05:16 PM (ufLRj)
Purple Avenger @ 93
Yes, that is the last consequence of a government that pisses on you and tells you it's raining.
The governing bureaucracy thinks the average citizen is a mark at a carny to be conned out of his money.
Susan Rice can lie serially in public on TV and to question her veracity, character and competence is racist. She whored herself out in loyalty to the lie that is the Obama Regime, and now expects to get her reward.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is Eddie Willers at November 27, 2012 05:16 PM (Md8Uo)
Posted by: Thunderb at November 27, 2012 05:16 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: steevy at November 27, 2012 05:17 PM (9XBK2)
I had a theory once where I figured Clinton actually WAS NOT getting much action, which would explain the groping incidents, and the desperate desire to use cigars and whatnot.
In other words, a real hound dog who was getting "strange" all over the place doesn't have sexual harassment suits hitting him. He's got a series of satisfied ladies who keep their mouths shut (after he leaves, I mean).
Posted by: BurtTC at November 27, 2012 05:17 PM (BeSEI)
Posted by: steevy at November 27, 2012 05:18 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 27, 2012 05:19 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: stace, L.I.B. at November 27, 2012 05:19 PM (m+UHL)
Posted by: Alex of Reality land at November 27, 2012 05:19 PM (aPAIU)
That's some Murderer's Row of talent the Dems have available there.
Posted by: Waterhouse at November 27, 2012 05:19 PM (34YTQ)
Thanks, now I remember. Paula Jones was the "innocent" who sued him. I put that in quotes because who knows how innocent she was, really.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 27, 2012 05:19 PM (BeSEI)
Posted by: Alex of Reality land at November 27, 2012 05:20 PM (aPAIU)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 27, 2012 05:20 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at November 27, 2012 05:21 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: Alex of Surreal Land at November 27, 2012 05:22 PM (aPAIU)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 27, 2012 05:22 PM (bxiXv)
She's the one he banged and she audio taped him.During the primaries,everyone thought his run for President was over.Instead,he denied it was his voice on the tape and went on to win.
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Man they just do as they please. The only anomaly is W in 2000/2004.
Posted by: USS Diversity at November 27, 2012 05:23 PM (9ghZ6)
Posted by: Alex of Surreal Land at November 27, 2012 05:23 PM (aPAIU)
Since Kerry is a senator, he will glide through confirmation as SoS.
It's the collegial nature of that body. Kerry is an incompetent fool, but he will fit right in at the State Department.
Remember the fuss over Kimba Woods as Attorney General for Clinton because of her non-payment of SS for her nanny, and then we got Janet el -Reno.
Disaster, incompetence and stupidity. It's what's for dinner.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is Eddie Willers at November 27, 2012 05:23 PM (Md8Uo)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at November 27, 2012 05:24 PM (Eww/X)
Posted by: steevy at November 27, 2012 05:24 PM (9XBK2)
This is the "wise old man" of the Democratic party. Nevermind his lying corrupt wife who's Secretary of State. Jeezus fuc*ing Christ, what a sick country.
Posted by: rrpjr at November 27, 2012 05:24 PM (hJHO9)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 27, 2012 05:25 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Alex, who doesn't want to know what you do in the bathroom at November 27, 2012 05:25 PM (aPAIU)
I had a theory once where I figured Clinton actually WAS NOT getting much action, which would explain the groping incidents, and the desperate desire to use cigars and whatnot.
In other words, a real hound dog who was getting "strange" all over the place doesn't have sexual harassment suits hitting him. He's got a series of satisfied ladies who keep their mouths shut (after he leaves, I mean).
Posted by: BurtTC at November 27, 2012 09:17 PM (BeSEI)
I was working in Donk politics back in the mid to late 80's, and I knew Bill and some of his fellow Dem Governor travelers. They were banging anything that their dicks would fit into. And trust me, there was absolutely no shortage of women wanting to bang them. Attractive chicks, not just the trailer trash that Billy Jeff liked.
I wondered what the hell was going on and why their wives weren't pissed off (I was a naive 22-25 year old), and I soon learned that the wives got their husbands to hire some men to bang them. The whole thing skeeved me out of politics.
Posted by: MrCaniac at November 27, 2012 05:25 PM (Zd/NW)
Posted by: Truman North at November 27, 2012 05:26 PM (I2LwF)
I remember reading about her years ago and can't believe the fight she had in her.
NDH - I remember that too thinking at the time what a brave young woman, we need some like her. A very sad day that she was murded.
Posted by: Infidel at November 27, 2012 05:26 PM (xfRvq)
Posted by: Alex, who doesn't want to know what you do in the kitchen sink at November 27, 2012 05:26 PM (aPAIU)
Posted by: Alex, who doesn't want to know what you do in the kitchen sink at November 27, 2012 05:27 PM (aPAIU)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at November 27, 2012 05:27 PM (Eww/X)
Posted by: steevy at November 27, 2012 05:27 PM (9XBK2)
Rush was postulating a couple weeks ago that McCain's game was to assure his "good friend" John Kerry had smooth sailing. So his tough act on Rice is right in line with that.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 27, 2012 05:27 PM (BeSEI)
Ace is Gangnam style!
http://tinyurl.com/cc7rolq
He could only wish, 853,000,000 hits
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 27, 2012 05:27 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Alex, who doesn't want to know what you do in the kitchen sink at November 27, 2012 05:29 PM (aPAIU)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 27, 2012 05:29 PM (jucos)
Posted by: eman at November 27, 2012 05:30 PM (bWwMZ)
Posted by: Alex, who doesn't want to know what you do in the kitchen sink at November 27, 2012 05:30 PM (aPAIU)
You answered my earlier question. It was Flowers who was portrayed in Primary Colors.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 27, 2012 09:20 PM (piMMO)
They pretty much glossed over the whole "Governor being baby daddy to the BBQ joint owner's teenage daughter" thingy. The MBM never really followed up on that little nugget.
Posted by: MrCaniac at November 27, 2012 05:30 PM (Zd/NW)
My most sinister postulate?
Confirm Rice and blackmail her the entire time she is Secretary of State to keep her from carrying out Barry's stupidest ideas.
She is corrupt and a habitual liar and confirmed Leftist, but she is probably not as stupid and incompetent as John Kerry.
This is what we have become. How did it come to this?
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is Eddie Willers at November 27, 2012 05:31 PM (Md8Uo)
Posted by: somebody else, not me at November 27, 2012 05:31 PM (nZvGM)
Harlem runs a country. I drove there once. Except for San Pedro, the rest of the place is all slum all the time. Open sewers, no road, etc.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 27, 2012 05:31 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Alex, who is too young to remember the clinton era at November 27, 2012 05:32 PM (aPAIU)
Oh, and he's a twit. He'll fit right in at State.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 27, 2012 05:33 PM (wR+pz)
Imagine Ghengis Kerry as SecDef.
Either way, he'll help get us all killed.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 27, 2012 05:33 PM (UOM48)
Yeah, I'm sure that's closer to the truth. Nobody with that much power goes to bed alone, and he certainly doesn't choose Hillary if he has other options.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 27, 2012 05:33 PM (BeSEI)
Posted by: eman at November 27, 2012 05:34 PM (bWwMZ)
Posted by: steevy at November 27, 2012 05:34 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Tickled Pink at November 27, 2012 05:35 PM (E1Vkf)
Posted by: Infidel at November 27, 2012 05:35 PM (xfRvq)
Why, do you suppose?
Posted by: Truman North at November 27, 2012 09:26 PM (I2LwF)
They are on the west coast? They are in Europe, and it is the first shift of the day?
Posted by: MrCaniac at November 27, 2012 05:35 PM (Zd/NW)
Posted by: Andy at November 27, 2012 05:36 PM (OZPoa)
Posted by: steevy at November 27, 2012 05:36 PM (9XBK2)
http://tinyurl.com/clbajum
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 27, 2012 05:36 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Alex, who will make country puns for the next 4 years at November 27, 2012 05:37 PM (aPAIU)
Posted by: Skookumchuk at November 27, 2012 05:38 PM (0Db2g)
Posted by: Alex, who will make country puns for the next 4 years at November 27, 2012 05:38 PM (aPAIU)
Posted by: Thunderb at November 27, 2012 05:38 PM (Dnbau)
Even from the Left. Anything?
It must be neat to be the Left and not have actual accomplishments interfere with your status, prestige, and success.
Intentions are everything with the Left. Caring. Emotion.
Shit they are frustrating.
Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 27, 2012 05:38 PM (MmH0Z)
Posted by: Alex, who will make country puns for the next 4 years at November 27, 2012 05:39 PM (aPAIU)
Steevy @ 151
McCain is not always sane, and I say that with no real malice. He was on Michael Reagan's radio show in the primary season of 2000, and lost it on the air. I was listening, and it was really weird.
Michael was not comitted to anyone, and his foster father Ron had always liked McCain, and Michael was partial to him. But McCain just went nukking futs on his radio show and Michael actually hung up on him. It was that weird.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is Eddie Willers at November 27, 2012 05:40 PM (Md8Uo)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 27, 2012 05:41 PM (piMMO)
My most sinister postulate?
Confirm Rice and blackmail her the entire time she is Secretary of State to keep her fromcarrying outBarry's stupidest ideas.
She is corrupt and a habitual liar and confirmed Leftist, but she is probably not as stupid and incompetent as John Kerry.
This is what we have become. How did it come to this?
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is Eddie Willers at November 27, 2012 09:31 PM (Md8Uo)
They may have the goods on her, but it won't do any good. She won't have to worry about the GOP doing anything to her until 2016. Thanks Akin, Mourdock, O'Donnell, Angle, and Allen.
Posted by: MrCaniac at November 27, 2012 05:41 PM (Zd/NW)
Posted by: Skookumchuk at November 27, 2012 05:41 PM (0Db2g)
*head-------->desk*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 27, 2012 05:41 PM (UOM48)
Failing upward is a characteristic of the Left in general and Democrats in particular.
Fail and get promoted. You see that a lot in really dysfunctional organizations. The whole perception of failure and success is inverted to justify whatever peoples FEELINGS tell them to do.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is Eddie Willers at November 27, 2012 05:42 PM (Md8Uo)
Posted by: Truman North at November 27, 2012 05:43 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Alex, who is too young to remember the clinton era at November 27, 2012 09:32 PM (aPAIU)
Alledgedly, Billy Jeff knocked up the teenage daughter of a political backer, an AA backer. The Arkansas "mafia" covered it up, and provided financial support for the child so that it would not come back to hurt Billy Jeff. I'm trying to remember who his scandal "fixer" was back then, but she was knee deep in it over it.
Posted by: MrCaniac at November 27, 2012 05:51 PM (Zd/NW)
Posted by: Jt at November 27, 2012 07:49 PM (4Uj6e)
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Posted by: Baldy at November 27, 2012 09:39 PM (opS9C)
I burst out laughing upon reading this and the boss gave me a weird look.
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