January 28, 2012

George Will On Generalissimo Obama
— andy

"If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." ~ George Orwell

Today's must-read, via Jonah Goldberg.

The armed services’ ethos, although noble, is not a template for civilian society, unless the aspiration is to extinguish politics. People marching in serried ranks, fused into a solid mass by the heat of martial ardor, proceeding in lock step, shoulder to shoulder, obedient to orders from a commanding officer — this is a recurring dream of progressives eager to dispense with tiresome persuasion and untidy dissension in a free, tumultuous society.

Progressive presidents use martial language as a way of encouraging Americans to confuse civilian politics with military exertions, thereby circumventing an impediment to progressive aspirations — the Constitution and the patience it demands.

Whether they're fetishizing China, attempting to reorder society to combat fictitious global warming or taking over the healthcare system, rest assured that when you cut through their high-minded bullshit, the heart of a petty tyrant beats in every "progressive".

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1 I rest, but none of this is assuring. Cordially...

Posted by: Rick at January 28, 2012 06:21 AM (Gfgj6)

2 Seig Heil !

Posted by: mark x at January 28, 2012 06:26 AM (plLN9)

3
top 3!

Posted by: soothsayer at January 28, 2012 06:28 AM (sqkOB)

4 In one of my college history classes we studied the progressive movement. One of its earliest founders was enamored by the military. He even wanted to start an "industrial army" or some such bullshit. I forget his name, but this was way back in the 1880s or 1890s.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at January 28, 2012 06:29 AM (7+pP9)

5
Ace was on fire yesterday.

His last post, "Obama Is a Rolodex Socialist," is vintage Ace.

It's that kinda crisp analysis that brought me here almost 7 years ago.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 28, 2012 06:30 AM (sqkOB)

6 the heart of a petty tyrant beats in every "progressive".

The Western Left is even worse; they're nihilists.  They don't want to control the West.  They want to kill the West and everything in it ... except the non-Westerners.

Posted by: really ... at January 28, 2012 06:30 AM (X3lox)

7 LOL, just finished 1984 by Orwell. Some pigs etc.

Posted by: Vic at January 28, 2012 06:30 AM (YdQQY)

8
Today's GOP Weekly Address was by Sen Rubio.

My review: One of the best I have ever heard. A+.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 28, 2012 06:32 AM (sqkOB)

9 When he is not using class warfare and stirring racial distrust to weaken the country he spouts off that we should all march shoulder to shoulder and not be worried about divisions in rank. The hypocrisy is over the top.

Posted by: Palerider at January 28, 2012 06:33 AM (5CusZ)

10
The theme of the address is something I've been saying for a long time: Obama made everything worse.


Posted by: soothsayer at January 28, 2012 06:33 AM (sqkOB)

11     Sadly, this effort to 'militarize' society worries career military professionals the most.  We realize how important civilian control over the U.S. military truly is.  If the civilian world becomes just like the Army, Navy, Marines or Air Force, where is the 'control'?  The 'angels' in the human form that make up our federal politicians and bureaucrats?  I've been in the military since 1988, trust me, you don't want to turn America into a bigger version of Camp Lejune or Lackland Air Force Base.  There may be Presidents in U.S. history who were more ignorant of the military than Obama, but I'll be damned if I can think of one. 

    Like Glenn Reynolds at Instapundit would put it  -  "They told me if I voted for that war-monger John McCain we would see a fascist military remolding of American society...and they were right!"

Posted by: Pave Low John at January 28, 2012 06:36 AM (ue6kh)

12 The theme of the address is something I've been saying for a long time: Obama made everything worse.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 28, 2012 10:33 AM (sqkOB)

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Barky was the ignition.  THe Western Left needed someone who had no attachment to the West and was not bound (subconsciously, even) to any of the traditions, mores, or taboos of the West ... in order to utterly destroy the system from the inside.  A Westerner couldn't do this since Westerners are inherently trapped into thinking like a Westerner.  The Western Left needed someone who really held the West in utter outside contempt (not mere self-hate like the Western Leftists, themselves) in order to give the necessary final shot to our system to bring it down.  The Western Left could not have done this without someone who hated the West as much as Barky and who was not bound culturally in any way to the West.


Sadly, after Barky showed the Western Left the way to real dstruction of our nation, now any old self-hating American can do it.  Now, they see the template for taking the US down, quickly, and they are all ready to play.  The damage has been done.  The gates were opened to the barbarians and there will be no closing them, now.  Th city will burn.

Posted by: really ... at January 28, 2012 06:40 AM (X3lox)

13

Pretty good editorial from George Will.

What is worse than the petty tyrants from the left every few decades is that we never get to roll back their tyrannies. We are still suffering from FDR's policies.

Posted by: also from Oklahoma at January 28, 2012 06:45 AM (wWZWw)

Posted by: Jose at January 28, 2012 06:45 AM (srIqv)

15
I found it:

“It is hard to fix a specific starting date for the progressive race to the Great Society,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “but a good guess might be 1888, the year [when socialist] Edward Bellamy's novel Looking Backward burst on the American scene.” Set in the year 2000, this futuristic book depicts a utopian society run with the hierarchical efficiency of a military battalion. All workers in this idealized world belong to a unified “industrial army” that labors within the confines of an economy controlled by a coterie of central planners who are deemed to be more capable of fostering prosperity and productivity than is a free marketplace. A preacher in the story lauds the earthly paradise, while the population at large looks back upon the “age of individualism” with a blend of amusement and derision.

http://tinyurl.com/83ajpbw

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at January 28, 2012 06:46 AM (7+pP9)

16 ugh the formatting on this site never works for me, you really need a preview comment option

Posted by: Jose at January 28, 2012 06:46 AM (srIqv)

17

When he is not using class warfare and stirring racial distrust to weaken the country he spouts off that we should all march shoulder to shoulder and not be worried about divisions in rank. The hypocrisy is over the top.

The hypocrisy should give us all pause. Such a dichotomy of principle is evidence of a mind split in two, with no firm foundation of principle save the glory of power over another.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Rioting Christian at January 28, 2012 06:47 AM (d0Tfm)

18 "Hence Barack ObamaÂ’s State of the Union hymn: Onward civilian [Marxist] soldiers, marching as to war."

War is a Force that gives us Meaning, by Chris Hedges (2002)

"The rush of battle is a potent and often lethal addiction, for war is a drug."

Posted by: Panzernashorn at January 28, 2012 06:47 AM (lpWVn)

19 Obama is an African-American .. bringing the best of Africa to America

Posted by: Benedict Arnold at January 28, 2012 06:47 AM (e8kgV)

20 don't forget wishing he could bypass Congress

Posted by: Jose at January 28, 2012 10:45 AM (srIqv)

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Don't forget when he insane supporters wanted to bypass EVERYTHING and have Bush resign in December 2008 to let Barky just take the office (even though there was no process ANYWHERE that allowed for anything of the sort - and that's aside from the fact that Barky was an incompetent retard who can't do anything correctly, anyhow).

Posted by: really ... at January 28, 2012 06:47 AM (X3lox)

21 The ad below this post is rather disturbing. It advertises some sort of quack cancer cure.

Just curious, how much control do you have over the ads that appear in your blog, and how much do you care about which ads show up?

Posted by: Sweet Lou at January 28, 2012 06:49 AM (WrHFg)

22 I first realized just how inherently authoritarian the Left is watching a liberal friend in church talk about giving the homeless some pocket money so the wretches could at least get a pack of cigarettes in the middle of a cold winter. The indignation, moral self-righteousness, and sheer ANGER suddenly emanating from an otherwise lovely lady... Frightening.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 28, 2012 06:49 AM (niZvt)

23 Andy said ;
rest assured that when you cut through their high-minded bullshit, the heart of a petty tyrant beats in every "progressive". Posted by: Andy at 10:20 AM

I  disagree about any degree of high mindedness, It's about raw power and subjugation.

Posted by: willow at January 28, 2012 06:50 AM (TomZ9)

24 I disagree about any degree of high mindedness,

Posted by: willow at January 28, 2012 10:50 AM (TomZ9) 

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Exactly.  There's nothing high-minded about Western Leftism.  It is nothing but simple-minded answers to complx problems that the Left arrives at by assuming that the world is static and stagnant (like the Leftist's infantile view of the world).


And that's for the true believer, honest leftists.  The rest are even worse scum and more simple-minded.

Posted by: really ... at January 28, 2012 06:52 AM (X3lox)

25 Unfortunately these two guys are preaching to the choir. It's the average dope that wrapped himself in the feel goodedness of the Hope and Change blanket that needs reaching by November or this stuff may become a harsher reality.


Any of us that have been paying attention to the rise of this AA Bozo from the get go saw the potential for this scenario if he could somehow consolidate power.


These two columns are about our nightmares.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 28, 2012 06:53 AM (ZJCDy)

26 American progressivism, national socialism, and international socialism all arose from the same European ideas - so it is not surprising to see how many similarities there are. They aren't the same of course, early 20th century American, Italian, German, and Russian culture and ideology informed each local ideology. Goldberg's book is an excellent primer on this.

In fact, if we had a decent school system, children would spend a semester in HS on analyzing the differences and similarities of the policies of FDR, Mussolini, Hitler, and Stalin in the 30s.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 28, 2012 06:53 AM (3aXbg)

27 Il Douche

Posted by: Glaucon at January 28, 2012 06:53 AM (mP9Rx)

28 13 don't forget wishing he could   bypassing Congress

Posted by: Jose at January 28, 2012 10:45 AM (srIqv) 

 

There, fixed it for ya  ...

 

 

Posted by: mark x at January 28, 2012 06:54 AM (plLN9)

29  imagine if this Man wins another term.

Posted by: willow at January 28, 2012 06:55 AM (TomZ9)

30 Heil Obama, Heil Obama, Heil Obama, Heil Obama, ...

Posted by: Rudolf Walter Richard Hess at January 28, 2012 06:55 AM (e8kgV)

31 In 2009, He was "The Won" ... In 2013, he will be "The Douche"

Posted by: Benito Amilcare Andrea Mussolini at January 28, 2012 06:58 AM (e8kgV)

32 imagine if this Man wins another term. Posted by: willow at January 28, 2012 10:55 AM (TomZ9) I have nightmares each and every night

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 28, 2012 06:59 AM (i6RpT)

33 You want me on that wall. You NEED me on that wall.
 
King 'Nathan R. Jessop' Barky I
 
The always readable VDH has a fresh article out today titled "Can't We All Get Along? -- Never". Reading the morning thread vitriol between Newt and Mitt fans there, his article is very apropos.
 
http://tinyurl.com/7wu2ruc

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 28, 2012 06:59 AM (BhuDE)

34 Jawohl, mein Fuehrer Obama.
What is your propaganda command for today?

Posted by: MFM Hack at January 28, 2012 06:59 AM (i3+c5)

35 What is worse than the petty tyrants from the left every few decades is that we never get to roll back their tyrannies. We are still suffering from FDR's policies.
--also from Oklahoma

Rather,  have yet to CHOOSE rolling back modern American tyranny.

Given the GOP Debates, think again of Civil Liberty and the Constitution. The status quo dissolves Rule of Law with the neoconservatives in audience cheering the loss of Liberty, insisting that subjugation is the only way to preserve American "exceptionalism".

Vanitas vanitatum omnia vanitas


Posted by: Panzernashorn at January 28, 2012 07:00 AM (lpWVn)

36 From the Elizabeth Warren headline in the sidebar:  The intellectual gymnastics the commentors go through to justify why Elizabeth Warren is TOTALLY COOL AND NOT A HYPOCRITE are both amusing and instructive.  

Posted by: Truman North at January 28, 2012 07:00 AM (I2LwF)

37 really said :
It is nothing but simple-minded answers to complx problems that the Left arrives at by assuming that the world is static and stagnant (like the Leftist's infantile view of the world).

I have decided they (the top men) are not simple minded, They are malicious  cynical bastids, They use their constituents who are as they say useful tools.
why i say this is the shrieking non stop through Bush's term, blood , oil, murderers, hitler, and with an election their guy goes way past the supposed issues of Bush doubles down on stealing personal rights of americans with nary a peep. (many of these stories) i'm sure everyone can think of another. the whole friggen thing was about power,
I was actually stunned by their about face.

Posted by: willow at January 28, 2012 07:00 AM (TomZ9)

38

Who can forget (well, you might want to) Jimmy Carter's exhortation to treat the Energy Crisis of the 70's as "The Moral Equivalent of War"?

 

This is indeed nothing "new", but it is again something to worry about.  You could go back to the Roman Emperor who said he wished the world had just one throat so he could cut it.

 

It is based on the pure lust for power and control, which has really little to do with Democracy, and even less to to with a Constitutional Republic.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at January 28, 2012 07:01 AM (sJTmU)

39 don't forget wishing he could bypass Congress

Posted by: Jose at January 28, 2012 10:45 AM (srIqv)



He gave up wishing to do it and just does it now. And of course there are no cries of imperial presidency from the MFM

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 28, 2012 07:01 AM (1Jaio)

40

"......the heart of a petty tyrant beats in every "progressive"."

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Yeah. .....So let's put up another progressive, Romney, to run against the Progressive-in-Chief.

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We are so  epically   fucked.

Posted by: wheatie at January 28, 2012 07:02 AM (ALwK/)

41

Barky was the ignition. THe Western Left needed someone who had no attachment to the West and was not bound (subconsciously, even) to any of the traditions, mores, or taboos of the West ... in order to utterly destroy the system from the inside.

 

THREAD WINNER at #12

Posted by: Truman North at January 28, 2012 07:02 AM (I2LwF)

42 37 From the Elizabeth Warren headline in the sidebar: The intellectual gymnastics the commentors go through to justify why Elizabeth Warren is TOTALLY COOL AND NOT A HYPOCRITE are both amusing and instructive. Posted by: Truman North at January 28, 2012 11:00 AM

Haven't you heard? Only conservative Christians and family values Republicans can be hypocrites!

Posted by: Shit the MBM says at January 28, 2012 07:02 AM (Y+DPZ)

43 Posted by: Panzernashorn at January 28, 2012 11:00 AM (lpWVn)


The GOP debates have clearly demonstrated to me how far we have come in ignoring the Constitutional basis for government by the people.

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 28, 2012 07:02 AM (i3+c5)

44 nevergiveup, you and me both, hell even my spouse now pays attention to the news, which he never did before.. and angry. whew.

Posted by: willow at January 28, 2012 07:02 AM (TomZ9)

45 BTW -- I took that history class in 1981, proving that thousands of gallons of beer and liquor won't totally obliterate your memory.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at January 28, 2012 07:03 AM (7+pP9)

46 imagine if this Man wins another term.

Posted by: willow at January 28, 2012 10:55 AM (TomZ9)

I have nightmares each and every night

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 28, 2012 10:59 AM (i6RpT)


There are tingles running up and down Chrissy Matthews' leg just at the thought of it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 28, 2012 07:03 AM (1Jaio)

47 It would be so much easier to be President of China.

Posted by: SCOAMF at January 28, 2012 07:03 AM (RxLT6)

48 Conservatives are fascists and should be rounded up and put into camps

Posted by: Shit Lefties Say at January 28, 2012 07:03 AM (Y+DPZ)

49 Overall the left is an interesting mismatch of interest groups.

You've got the gimmes. They aren't concerned about the long term future. They aren't concerned about ideology, or even rights. They just want more stuff and are fine with however you get it.

You've for the managers. They generally believe themselves to be both intellectually and morally superior to their country men, and believe this gives them not only a right, but an obligation to lead them.

Then finally you've got the fools. Falling in between the managers and the gimmies, they are somewhat educated, but very carefully cocoon themselves. They don't want to think much about politics, other then "I'm voting for the good guys who will do nice things for people."

The first group is only concerned about the payoff. Nothing else matters. Obama could declare himself King, and as long as he raised their EBT card they'd be ok with that.

The second group tends to be quite pragmatic. They will defend liberal politicians as long as they are advancing the greater goal. This is the group you'll generally see if you visit leftwing boards. Always arguing about policy tactics and never questioning whether the government can or should do whatever they are discussing, because in the end, government should control everything - not necessarily own mind you, they are aware that international socialism yields a much lower living standard then the more economically pragmatic national socialism...

The last group are the ones we can conceivably reach. They are emotionally invested in liberal politics, but not intellectually. In large measure they exist because of the efforts of the state media and government-education complex. In large measure these people are the ones that have turned away from Obama and the Democrats since 2009. They've got their jobs, their savings, and seen their communities ravaged. But it is not a slam dunk that we can reach them in 2012. They will swallow the idea that Bush, "the bankers", and "special interests" have impeded Obama's policies and therefore he is not to blame if we don't tailor our message correctly.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 28, 2012 07:04 AM (3aXbg)

50 Wilson, FDR, Cliton, and now the SCOAMT. Do we know how to pick 'em, or what?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Rioting Christian at January 28, 2012 07:05 AM (d0Tfm)

51
He gave up wishing to do it and just does it now. And of course there are no cries of imperial presidency from the MFM

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 28, 2012 11:01 AM (1Jaio)

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Or from the GOP, who have let Barky "rule" with impunity.   The GOP was even nice enough to confirm Barky's anti-Western idea that empathy is a legitimate main characteristic for judges and justices. 


Thanks a lot, GOP.  You been very hepful.

Posted by: really ... at January 28, 2012 07:05 AM (X3lox)

52 "Can't We All Get Along? -- Never"

Running punchline, the heretic you'd burn at the stake is just like you except in one thing. Or, mote meet beam. (mt 7:3)

Posted by: Panzernashorn at January 28, 2012 07:06 AM (lpWVn)

53 Excellent analysis, 18-1

Posted by: laceyunderalls at January 28, 2012 07:07 AM (phgnV)

54 Mitt and Newt are both progressives.  But they both love America.  Either is preferable to this freak.

Posted by: Truman North at January 28, 2012 07:08 AM (I2LwF)

55 All the more reason why we need Obama in office so we can impeach him, rather than to lose slower with any of these RINO GOP RINOs. What Michelle Malkin said. I can't wait to get rid of Cryin' Boehner and Mickey Mouse McConnell. Then we can really have some fun. Once we impeach Obama we'll finally be able to impeach Biden. By then I figure Cuomo will become president and then we can impeach him too. Palin-Angle-O'Donnell, '16.

Posted by: Totally Irrational Political Malcontent at January 28, 2012 07:08 AM (r2PLg)

56 Leftist measurement of The Rich: Anyone making between $250K and 1M per annum, then a skip to anyone making over 30M a year

That way the well heeled of the MBM, Hollywood, academia, and politics can claim they're "middle class"



Posted by: Shit Lefties Say at January 28, 2012 07:08 AM (Y+DPZ)

57 "the heart of a petty tyrant beats in every 'progressive'."

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Nicely put.

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 28, 2012 07:08 AM (Iyg03)

58 the mfm is really what needs to be taken down and rebuilt. without them , the progressives wouldn't get away with it.

Posted by: willow at January 28, 2012 07:09 AM (TomZ9)

59 Goldberg is dead on! As I wrote in my blog post after the SOTU speech- "...Obama next suggests that private citizens should be more like the military and act as soldiers for the state. Citizens should stop fighting one another, stop disagreeing about the direction of the nation, stop pushing for their individual rights and liberties, stop trying to keep their property and the fruits of their labor, and instead citizens should serve the state, citizens should put aside their differences and just follow orders, and people should give up their wealth and property to the state so that it can redistribute it to those people who it favors. This all sounds vaguely familiar and has strong echo's of fascism in it..." http://tinyurl.com/89jcunf

Posted by: A Conservative Teacher at January 28, 2012 07:09 AM (WwXHu)

60 OT but I just heard more about Super Bowl Week on the radio.  The NFL usually nails stuff like this in terms of schedule and presentation.  They're now having a separate show for presenting awards like MVP, Comeback Player of the year, and Walter Payton Man of the Year.  There's also a new award related to the service of our fine armed forces.  So far, so very good.  Well, guess who hosts it?  That asshat Alec Baldwin.  Yeesh.

Posted by: logprof misses italics at January 28, 2012 07:09 AM (ykSKg)

61 Who can forget (well, you might want to) Jimmy Carter's exhortation to treat the Energy Crisis of the 70's as "The Moral Equivalent of War"?

AGW True Believers have that same attitude - it's crisis time, and everything must be subordinated to the One Great Fight ... and, oh, they'll be making the decisions about what gets done.

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 28, 2012 07:10 AM (bgAe9)

62 Posted by: Blue Hen at January 28, 2012 10:46 AM (c9Ivb)

Notice his fury at Arizona's governor.

The JEF doesn't understand that governors don't work for him. He thinks that he is the emperor of America, and all should bow to him.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 28, 2012 07:11 AM (nEUpB)

63 There's also a new award related to the service of our fine armed forces. So far, so very good. Well, guess who hosts it? That asshat Alec Baldwin. Yeesh. Posted by: logprof misses italics at January 28, 2012 11:09 AM (ykSKg) Somebody dropped the ball on that one

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 28, 2012 07:11 AM (i6RpT)

64 They will swallow the idea that Bush, "the bankers", and "special interests" have impeded Obama's policies and therefore he is not to blame if we don't tailor our message correctly.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 28, 2012 11:04 AM (3aXbg)

that seems to be the problem over-all is the lack of messaging to the public from our side.

They should take the debates and all the candidates should quit beating eachother over the head and address all of these issues.

Posted by: willow at January 28, 2012 07:11 AM (TomZ9)

65 Posted by: Waterhouse at January 28, 2012 11:10 AM (bgAe9)

Okay, fess up. How did you do the italics?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 28, 2012 07:12 AM (nEUpB)

66

As a senior in high school (1971) I remember reading the book "Vandenberg" by Oliver Lange.  The essense of the story was stunning.  Washington is wiped out, the Russians take over with ease as they had worked communists into the three networks (only 3 networks at the time for you youngins').  Americans, for the most part did not rebel because we were allowed to keep our stuff.  Disturbing and profetic.

From the main characterVandenberg's journal:

"...the deeper shock then, was not that we lost, but that we lost with such ease, with an effortlessness that approached divine imperturability.  In terms of image, the world was presented with the Statue of Liberty, not as an inviolate emblem but as a vacuously grinning old whore, who after a token assault was debauched and then rolled docilely in the hay.

We proved the lie, were served up with a gagging portion of our own vintage distillation of apocalyptic horeshit-all the narcissistic swill about indomitable spirit, invincibility, courage and nobility of purpose-and demonstrated once and for all to those who looked on with interest a fact long suspected:  that this nation through a self-administered indoctrination of spurious righteousness, larded with false rewards of superflous luxury, had at last achieved the most tractable, malleable-let's face it, spineless people to walk the face of the earth."

The author had worked for the New Yorker and went galt.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at January 28, 2012 07:12 AM (WUWb9)

67 I hate this thin skinned nasty bastard cock sucker more and more every day

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 28, 2012 07:12 AM (i6RpT)

68 Obama loves praising the military for doing a great job whenever he sends them to do a risky mission for some publicity on his part. Yet he has no problem firing 80,000 to 500,000 members of the armed forces and gutting their budget to buy more welfare votes. What a filthy backstabbing weasel.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at January 28, 2012 07:13 AM (ijjAe)

69 Okay, fess up. How did you do the italics? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 28, 2012 11:12 AM (nEUpB) Well, usually a bottle of wine and dinner will do it. In a pinch, $30 will get you what you want.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 28, 2012 07:14 AM (niZvt)

70 69 Obama loves praising the military for doing a great job whenever he sends them to do a risky mission for some publicity on his part. Yet he has no problem firing 80,000 to 500,000 members of the armed forces and gutting their budget to buy more welfare votes. What a filthy backstabbing weasel. Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at January 28, 2012 11:13 AM (ijjAe) We're we all expecting massive military cuts the day the nation went loco and elected the socialist? BTW, to get italics do it the old way, but using the brackets - [ and ] - instead of the old way, with < and >

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 28, 2012 07:15 AM (niZvt)

71 "They will swallow the idea that Bush, "the bankers",
and "special interests" have impeded Obama's policies and therefore he
is not to blame if we don't tailor our message correctly."

The retort to this is that Obama didn't have to fill his cabinet with bankers and half of Goldman Sachs did he?

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at January 28, 2012 07:15 AM (ijjAe)

72 Posted by: nevergiveup at January 28, 2012 11:12 AM (i6RpT)

I can't even tolerate a few seconds of his sound bites. I start yelling and cursing and scaring my wife.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 28, 2012 07:16 AM (nEUpB)

73

I know this will sound rather over-simplistic, but principles are like that. It boils down to where you get your your life-force from: outside of you, or inside of you.

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If you get your life from someone or something outside of you, you will never be a complete human being. There will always be someone or something "out there" that will control you, either through your desire of it (the need to look like one of the "cool people") or through outright force.

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If you get your life from somewhere inside of you, you are in control of yourself and your conscience is your guide. This is the form of individual freedom the Founders sought to enshrine in our government, and precisely what the left is busily destroying through every means available to them.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Rioting Christian at January 28, 2012 07:16 AM (d0Tfm)

74 Huh, well, you remember the sideways v html tags used for italics before, right?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 28, 2012 07:16 AM (niZvt)

75 i have almost come to the conclusion  He was put there to grab the treasury.

Posted by: willow at January 28, 2012 07:16 AM (TomZ9)

76 There's also a new award related to the service of our fine armed forces. So far, so very good. Well, guess who hosts it? That asshat Alec Baldwin. Yeesh.
Posted by: logprof misses italics at January 28, 2012 11:09 AM (ykSKg)

Somebody dropped the ball on that one
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Shot themselves in the foot, more like.

Who did they put in charge of picking the host? The same guy that picks the halftime entertainment?

Posted by: Retread at January 28, 2012 07:16 AM (joSBv)

77

55 Mitt and Newt are both progressives. But they both love America. Either is preferable to this freak.

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Newt a progressive? ....How so? ....I love you Truman, but I just don't see how the term 'progressive' can be applied to Gingrich.

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The problem with Mitt that I see in the general, is that he just doesn't inspire Trust. ....Quite the opposite, really. .

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Mitt can douse himself with religious piety all he wants to, but he has a long history of being out for himself, and himself only. ....I keep waiting for him to make a cogent, convincing, explanation for why he wants power....and I am still waiting.

Posted by: wheatie at January 28, 2012 07:16 AM (ALwK/)

78
Okay, fess up. How did you do the italics?

Brackets: text

Omit the spaces

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at January 28, 2012 07:16 AM (7+pP9)

79 Posted by: CoolCzech at January 28, 2012 11:14 AM (niZvt)

I only have $6. Is that enough?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 28, 2012 07:17 AM (nEUpB)

80 Okay, fess up. How did you do the italics?

Use square brackets like so: [ i] and [ /i]  (shown here with an extra space inside the brackets so it displays).

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 28, 2012 07:17 AM (bgAe9)

81 test 

test

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 28, 2012 07:17 AM (Iyg03)

82 I only have $6. Is that enough? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 28, 2012 11:17 AM (nEUpB) For a toe job... sure.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 28, 2012 07:18 AM (niZvt)

83 Yep the only guy I'd not vote for would be Nor....and that's a maybe if it meant getting Obsama out

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 28, 2012 07:18 AM (PddVe)

84 Somebody dropped the ball on that one

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 28, 2012 11:11 AM (i6RpT)

--I can only guess that he was booked before the Words With Friends incident.  That proved him to be not just a dick to those who do not share his politics, but an arrogant prick all-around to people he considers beneath him (which is almost everyone else), especially those slaving away in the travel industry.

Posted by: logprof misses italics at January 28, 2012 07:18 AM (ykSKg)

85 82 test test Posted by: rdbrewer at January 28, 2012 11:17 AM (Iyg03) Someone's awful testy today...

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 28, 2012 07:18 AM (niZvt)

86 Did ace indicate when the new blog would be up and running?

Posted by: willow at January 28, 2012 07:18 AM (TomZ9)

87 I tried that earlier and it failed miserably. I think I might have to upgrade to a premium membership.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 28, 2012 07:18 AM (nEUpB)

88 test

test

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 28, 2012 07:19 AM (Iyg03)

89 Hey! It worked!

Thank you!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 28, 2012 07:19 AM (nEUpB)

90 >> I disagree about any degree of high mindedness, It's about raw power and subjugation.

When I said "high-minded bullshit", the emphasis was on "bullshit." All the talk of equality, fairness, saving the planet, etc. is just a smokescreen to get them what they want: control.

Posted by: Andy at January 28, 2012 07:19 AM (XG+Mn)

91 bold works too.

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 28, 2012 07:19 AM (Iyg03)

92 Posted by: CoolCzech at January 28, 2012 11:18 AM (niZvt)

Not as bad as last night.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 28, 2012 07:19 AM (nEUpB)

93 Yet he has no problem firing 80,000 to 500,000 members of the armed forces and gutting their budget to buy more welfare votes.

It's so wall-punchingly infuriating that the military gets the immediate cuts. Did I miss the story where the DoE and Education were trimming a third of their workforce? Why the fuck aren't they?

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 28, 2012 07:21 AM (bgAe9)

94 Wow, so the brackets work.  I just assumed from the comments of others earlier that even those were disabled.  Now how do we get paragraph breaks?

Posted by: logprof misses italics at January 28, 2012 07:21 AM (ykSKg)

95 Be careful with that braces to create italics thing. If you botch the close tag, it will look like an Ace post.

The new New Comments Thingy is in the works, so I hear.

Posted by: Andy at January 28, 2012 07:21 AM (XG+Mn)

96 @Andy,

Your closing paragraph was well said.

It vitally important that we never forget that:

progressive=authoritarian=totalitarian=genocide.

It's an inexorable progression.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 28, 2012 07:21 AM (nEUpB)

97 the mfm is really what needs to be taken down and rebuilt. without them , the progressives wouldn't get away with it.

Posted by: willow at January 28, 2012 11:09 AM (TomZ9)




This may be the singular truth (which they constantly obscure) of our time.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 28, 2012 07:22 AM (ZJCDy)

98 >> Now how do we get paragraph breaks?

Use the regular html "br" tag.

Posted by: Andy at January 28, 2012 07:23 AM (XG+Mn)

99 Posted by: logprof misses italics at January 28, 2012 11:21 AM (ykSKg)

Try a double "enter." that's been working for me.

(there's a joke here about the English chick with two vaginas.)

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 28, 2012 07:23 AM (nEUpB)

100 italics test

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2012 07:23 AM (Y+DPZ)

101 69 Yet he has no problem firing 80,000 to 500,000 members of the armed forces and gutting their budget to buy more welfare votes. What a filthy backstabbing weasel.
 
Bill Whittle has an excellent new Firewall video up titled 'Vote Pump' which echoes your point.
 
http://www.declarationentertainment.com/
 
Just scroll down a bit to get to the video. About 6 minutes.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 28, 2012 07:23 AM (BhuDE)

102

When I said "high-minded bullshit", the emphasis was on "bullshit." All the talk of equality, fairness, saving the planet, etc. is just a smokescreen to get them what they want: control.


You have broken the code.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Rioting Christian at January 28, 2012 07:23 AM (d0Tfm)

103 When I said "high-minded bullshit", the emphasis was on "bullshit." All the talk of equality, fairness, saving the planet, etc. is just a smokescreen to get them what they want: control.

Posted by: Andy at January 28, 2012 11:19 AM (XG+Mn)

uh hmm, well I hope you don't mind my emphasizing the point., and You are right.

 backs slowly away from the keyboard.

Posted by: willow at January 28, 2012 07:24 AM (TomZ9)

104 There are no ex-Goldman people in Obama's cabinet.  There never were.  The closest would be Gensler who is head of the CFTC and wrote Sarbanes-Oxley which is hardly a business friendly bill.

Posted by: Clarence at January 28, 2012 07:24 AM (z0HdK)

105 I hate the JEF with the white hot heat of a thousand suns. I hate that they have made me actually hate them and their ilk. Leftists/progs are like the 2 year old that isn't yours. If the toddler is yours you think his petulance is cute and charming. If the 2 year old is not yours his petulance makes you feel like putting his little head through the wall. Like that.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 28, 2012 07:24 AM (jucos)

106 [ i] another italics test [ /i]

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2012 07:24 AM (Y+DPZ)

107 [ i]another italics test, then fuck it[ /i]

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2012 07:25 AM (Y+DPZ)

108 "I hate Obama with a hate that has never been known to mankind."That sounds profound at first glance but I think I have to work on this a little more.

Posted by: Gasman at January 28, 2012 07:26 AM (cgrfB)

109 ok, what am I doing wrong?

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2012 07:26 AM (Y+DPZ)

110
try a different browser

Posted by: soothsayer at January 28, 2012 07:26 AM (sqkOB)

111 Take out the spaces inside the square brackets, kbdabear.

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 28, 2012 07:26 AM (bgAe9)

112 It's so wall-punchingly infuriating that the military gets the immediate cuts. Did I miss the story where the DoE and Education were trimming a third of their workforce? Why the fuck aren't they?

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 28, 2012 11:21 AM (bgAe9)


That was Bitch and Boner's great deal.  And they're both still in their "leadership" positions.  Fukkin unreal.

Posted by: really ... at January 28, 2012 07:26 AM (X3lox)

113 It's so wall-punchingly infuriating that the military gets the immediate cuts. Did I miss the story where the DoE and Education were trimming a third of their workforce? Why the fuck aren't they?

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 28, 2012 11:21 AM (bgAe9)


Simple, cuts that work to the detriment of the country are always made immediately, while cuts that might impact a special interest group (Soros, chirren, food stamp giftees, etc.) are, at best, subjected to a theoretical decrease in their rate of increase which will occur nine years from now.


Posted by: Hrothgar at January 28, 2012 07:27 AM (i3+c5)

114 Italians

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 28, 2012 07:27 AM (PddVe)

115 I think you guys are keeping it a secret from me!

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2012 07:28 AM (Y+DPZ)

116 The new New Comments Thingy is in the works, so I hear.

Posted by: Andy at January 28, 2012 11:21 AM (XG+Mn)


Second look at the Old Comments Thingy?

Posted by: really ... at January 28, 2012 07:28 AM (X3lox)

117 Clarence is a dumbass troll

Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2012 07:28 AM (ykSKg)

118 Close your tags!

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 28, 2012 07:28 AM (bgAe9)

119 Aw fuck, someone screwed up his /close tags!

Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2012 07:28 AM (ykSKg)

120 Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2012 11:28 AM (Y+DPZ)

use no spaces  in the code

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 28, 2012 07:29 AM (i3+c5)

121 tags

Posted by: Vic at January 28, 2012 07:30 AM (YdQQY)

122 Clarence:

William C. Dudley
: president and chief executive officer of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, partner and managing director at Goldman, Sachs and was the firmÂ’s chief U.S. economist for a decade

Douglas Elmendorf: Obama Director of the Congressional Budget Office in January 2009, replaced Furman as Director of the Hamilton Project  (Note that the Hamilton Project was funded by Robert Rubin and Goldman Sachs) 

Rahm Emanuel: Obama Chief of staff, on the payroll of Goldman Sachs, receiving $3,000 per month from the firm to “introduce us to people,” in the words of one Goldman partner at the time.

Dianna Farrell: Obama Administration: Deputy Director, National Economic Council, Former Goldman Sachs Title: Financial Analyst

Stephen Friedman: Obama Administration: Chairman, PresidentÂ’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board, Former Goldman Sachs Title: Board Member (Chairman, 1990-94; Director, 2005

Michael Frohman: Robert Rubin’s Chief of Staff while Rubin served as Secretary of the Treasury and an Obama “head hunter” according to “Rubin Proteges Change Their Tune as They Join Obama’s Team” in the New York Times.

Jason Furman: directed economic policy for the Obama Presidential Campaign, served as the second Director of the Hamilton Project after Peter OrszagÂ’s departure for the Obama administration

Mark Gallogly: Sits on the Hamilton ProjectÂ’s advisory council. He is also, according to Wikipedia, currently a member of ObamaÂ’s PresidentÂ’s Economic Recovery Advisory Board.

Timothy Geithner: Secretary of the Treasury, a former managing director of Goldman Sachs

Gary Gensler: Obama Administration: Commissioner, Commodity Futures Trading Commission, Former Goldman Sachs Title: Partner and Co-head of Finance

Michael Greenstone: the 4th Director of the Hamilton Project. Just as attorney Craig went from advising Obama to defending Goldman Sachs against the SEC complaint, Greenstone has used the revolving door to go from went an economic adviser position to Obama to one of the Goldman Sachs outlets, in this case its think tank embedded in the Brookings Institution and funded by Goldman and Robert Rubin. All 3 previous Directors of the Hamilton Project work in the Obama administration.

Robert Hormats: Obama Administration: Undersecretary for Economic, Energy and Agricultural Affairs, State Department Former Goldman Sachs Title: Vice Chairman, Goldman Sachs Group

Neel Kashkari: served under Treasury Secretary Paulson and was kept on by Obama after his inauguration for a limited period to work on TARP oversight, former Vice President of Goldman Sachs in San Francisco where he where he led GoldmanÂ’s Information Technology Security Investment Banking practice.

Karen Kornbluh: (sometimes called "ObamaÂ’s brain") Obama Ambassador to the OECD, was Deputy Chief of Staff to Mr. Goldman Sachs, Robert Rubin

Jacob (AKA "Jack") Lew: the United States Deputy Secretary of State for Management and Resources. According to Wikipedia, Lew sits on the Brookings-Rubin funded Hamilton Project Advisory Board. He also served with Robert Rubin in Bill ClintonÂ’s cabinet as Director of OMB.

David Lipton: now at ObamaÂ’s National Economic Council and the National Security Council. Lipton -worked with Larry Summers and Timothy Geithner, on the US response to the Asian financial crisis of the 1990Â’s. MergeFoundations reports that Lipton worked closely with Robert Rubin:

Emil Michael: White House Fellow,  former investment banker with Goldman Sachs

Philip Murphy: Obama Administration: Ambassador to Germany, Former Goldman Sachs Title: Head of Goldman Sachs, Frankfurt

Mark Patterson: Obama Administration: Chief of Staff to Treasury Secretary, Timothy Geitner, Former Goldman Sachs Title: Lobbyist 2005-2008; Vice President for Government Relations

Mark Peterson: Chief of staff to Timothy Geithner,    Goldman Sachs vice president and lobbyist

Steve Ratner: the shady billionaire financier who Obama appointed as his “car czar” and who resigned after it was revealed that his company, the Quadrangle Group, was apparently involved in “pay to play” for a billion dollars or so of New York State pension funds, and was under possible indictment by the New York AG and the SEC, also sits on the Advisory Council of the Goldman funded Hamilton Project

Robert Reischauer: a member of the Medicare Payment Advisory Commission from 2000-2009 and was its vice chair from 2001-2008. He too sits on the Hamilton ProjectÂ’s advisory board.

Alice Rivlin: Obama named Alice Rivlin to his so called deficit reduction commission.

Gene Sperling: advisor to Timothy Geithner on bailouts, Sperling paid by Goldman Sachs for one year of consulting work.

Adam Storch: Obama Managing Executive of the Security and Exchange CommissionÂ’s Division of Enforcement  Vice President in the Goldman Sachs  Business Intelligence Group

Larry Summers:  Obama chief economic adviser and head of the National Economic Counsel, Worked under Robert Rubin at Goldman Sachs

John Thain: Obama Administration: Advisor to Treasury Secretary, Timothy Geitner, Former Goldman Sachs Title: President and Chief Operating Officer (1999-2003)

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at January 28, 2012 07:30 AM (ijjAe)

123 Clarence Carter

Clarence Carter

Clarence Carter

Clarence Carter

Oh shit!

Clarence Carter

Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2012 07:30 AM (ykSKg)

124 108 [ i]another italics test, then fuck it[ /i] Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2012 11:25 AM (Y+DPZ) Don't use any spaces between the characters... otherwise, you're doing it right.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 28, 2012 07:31 AM (niZvt)

125 I'm sorry to say it, but you guys have a retard loose in the code.  This is really sad to watch.  I mean, to allow text with a few HTML markups and convert line breaks to paragraphs or BR-tags ... it ain't rocket science.

Posted by: really ... at January 28, 2012 07:31 AM (X3lox)

126 che la luna mazza mare ....

Posted by: Italic folk song at January 28, 2012 07:31 AM (Y+DPZ)

127 BlueFalcon,

Clarence is using the weasel phrase that no former GS people are in his *Cabinet*.  As if that diminishes what The Ben Bernank and Co. are doing.

Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2012 07:32 AM (ykSKg)

128

The really infuriating part is how we no longer have any control over our elected officials anymore. They say one thing to get elected, and then do something else entirely once in office with no repercussions, no penalties and no recourse for the people to correct the problem we made by electing liars.


Newt made a good point during one of the 1,320 debates about the fact that conservatives make up the majority of America, yet are so underrepresented in Washington as to essentially not exist.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Rioting Christian at January 28, 2012 07:32 AM (d0Tfm)

129

Putting Alec Baldwin in as the face of such an event is not a mistake - from the point of veiw of who is organizing it.

 

It is an attempt at "re-habilating" Baldwin's image.  Many of us will not swallow this horsehit, but many of the impressionable will. Look,  Alec is "just like us" and really does like the people in the military.  And the military people scheduled to appear will be the props for this Potemkin village.  They will do as they are told, whether they like it or not.  Alec will always be the self-centered asshole that he has always been.  Nothing will change that.  But some of the people can fooled all of the time. 

 

And doing as you are told, whether you like it or not, is the template for the future. Whether you like it or not.  The sun has set on our Constitutional Republic. And the sun will soon set on what followed, a Constitutional Democracy.

 

What is to  follow will be more like a corporatist oligarchy with the superficial appearances of a lawful society.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at January 28, 2012 07:32 AM (sJTmU)

130 129 che la luna mazza mare .... Posted by: Italic folk song at January 28, 2012 11:31 AM (Y+DPZ) "An Evening in Roma"?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 28, 2012 07:32 AM (niZvt)

131 To Many Go Where No Bold Has Gone Before!

Posted by: Capt. James T Kirk at January 28, 2012 07:33 AM (Y+DPZ)

132 Karen Kornbluh: (sometimes called "ObamaÂ’s brain")


-- Is anyone called "Joe Biden's brain"?

Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2012 07:34 AM (ykSKg)

133 man I screwed up

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 28, 2012 07:35 AM (PddVe)

134 Newt made a good point during one of the 1,320 debates about the fact that conservatives make up the majority of America, yet are so underrepresented in Washington as to essentially not exist.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Rioting Christian at January 28, 2012 11:32 AM (d0Tfm)


Newt redeems himself often enough with statements that if I could vote for him in the primary (thanks VA GOP) I still would.


Posted by: Hrothgar at January 28, 2012 07:36 AM (i3+c5)

135 Fun fact: Ancient Rome - Roma in Latin - had an a "secret name" supposedly known only to high priests, to be used just for secret ritual purposes. Modern historians theorize the secret name was Amor, or "Love," which is Roma written backwards. Ancient Roman said Rome was founded by the descendents of a son of Venus, the Goddess of Love, who was a prince of Troy that fled to Italy after the Trojan War ended. I think the proof of the pudding was the temple of Venus and Rome that the Emperor Hadrian built, the largest pagan temple ever constructed in the city: one half was dedicated to Venus, and the other, to the Goddess Roma - the personification of the city. So now you know! And couldn't care less...

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 28, 2012 07:36 AM (niZvt)

136 rest assured that when you cut through their high-minded bullshit, the heart of a petty tyrant beats in every "progressive". Petty? You're on the right track, but I don't think there's ANYTHING petty about the kind of society they want to bring about. Funny thing is, the best allies of free-thinking Americans is the cowardice and incompetence of the leftists in this country. As bad as they are, think of how truly destructive they would have been if they'd actually been consistently effective.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 28, 2012 07:37 AM (FIE/L)

137 Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at January 28, 2012 11:32 AM (sJTmU)

--Yeah, just like we're supposed to care that Madonna is relevant to anyone outside the gay community.

Posted by: logprof is glad at least the smileys work at January 28, 2012 07:37 AM (ykSKg)

138 How do you make 'laughing' smileys? .....And is there a 'devil' smiley here?

Posted by: wheatie at January 28, 2012 07:38 AM (ALwK/)

139 Che la luna, mezzo mare, mamma mia me maritari. Figghia mia, a cu te tari, mamma mia pensaci tu!

Posted by: Louis Prima at January 28, 2012 07:38 AM (Y+DPZ)

140 138 Newt made a good point during one of the 1,320 debates about the fact that conservatives make up the majority of America, yet are so underrepresented in Washington as to essentially not exist. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Rioting Christian at January 28, 2012 11:32 AM (d0Tfm) The only thing is... judging by his other statements, he was one of the 99 Percent that are liberal in the city.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 28, 2012 07:38 AM (niZvt)

141 "Cabinet" is not a weasel word.  No one from Obama's cabinet ever worked for Goldman Sachs (not that there is anything wrong with that).

I happen to think Hank Paulson from Goldman did a good job with the shit sandwich the Bush gang passed to him.  I read his book and he puked every day during 2008 while Wall St burned.

Posted by: Clarence at January 28, 2012 07:39 AM (z0HdK)

142

"It's that kinda crisp analysis that brought me here almost 7 years ago."


For me it was the Algore glamor shot.  It was during lunch at work, everyone kept coming into my cubical to see what was so damm funny.

Posted by: Paladin at January 28, 2012 07:39 AM (sPxmU)

143 Posted by: CoolCzech at January 28, 2012 11:36 AM (niZvt)

--Really?  I did not know Roma was the name of the city in Latin as well as Italian.

Go figger. . . .

Posted by: logprof is glad at least the smileys work at January 28, 2012 07:39 AM (ykSKg)

144 143 Che la luna, mezzo mare, mamma mia me maritari. Figghia mia, a cu te tari, mamma mia pensaci tu! Posted by: Louis Prima at January 28, 2012 11:38 AM (Y+DPZ) I have a CD of Dean Martin singing that song.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 28, 2012 07:40 AM (niZvt)

145 142 How do you make 'laughing' smileys? .....And is there a 'devil' smiley here?

Posted by: wheatie at January 28, 2012 11:38 AM (ALwK/)

-- Laughing is : lol : [leave out spaces]  Others are at smilies.mee.nu

Posted by: logprof is glad at least the smileys work at January 28, 2012 07:40 AM (ykSKg)

146 Posted by: CoolCzech at January 28, 2012 11:36 AM (niZvt)

I told you it's all about the sacred feminine!

Posted by: Robert Langdon, Harvard School of Asswipes at January 28, 2012 07:41 AM (bgAe9)

147 Do all the smileys and emoticons still work, though? Let's see:

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 28, 2012 07:42 AM (niZvt)

148 Yeah, I guess so...

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 28, 2012 07:42 AM (niZvt)

149 Cabinet is a weasel word.  BlueFalcon listed scads of GS people in the admin, and you dismiss them because they're not "Cabinet."  Then, of course, there's Bernanke, who is not officially part of the admin but enormously powerful and also compliant with 0bamao.

Posted by: logprof is glad at least the smileys work at January 28, 2012 07:43 AM (ykSKg)

150
let's see if this works...

[getbackunderthestairs]Clarence[/getbackunderthestairs]

Posted by: soothsayer at January 28, 2012 07:43 AM (sqkOB)

151 Yup, the smileys work.

Posted by: logprof is glad at least the smileys work at January 28, 2012 07:43 AM (ykSKg)

152 Posted by: CoolCzech at January 28, 2012 11:36 AM (niZvt)


That's is interesting, but where do Romulus and Remus come in?

Posted by: really ... at January 28, 2012 07:44 AM (X3lox)

153

Thanks, logprof.

.

Smiley test ---

Posted by: wheatie at January 28, 2012 07:44 AM (ALwK/)

154 That's is interesting, but where do Romulus and Remus come in?

Posted by: really ... at January 28, 2012 11:44 AM (X3lox)

--Read The Aeneid.

Posted by: logprof is glad at least the smileys work at January 28, 2012 07:45 AM (ykSKg)

155 Good grief.  Just reading the comments at the Post will give you a migraine:

George Will has done what he does far too often. He has taken up space that could have been put to better use. 
 
Implying that the President is acting like a dictator is an insult to the intelligence of all but Fox Republicans. To suggest that 30 second Senate sessions honour the Constitution when they are intended to prevent appointments that will allow a legally mandated body to operate is silly. Yes, George, you are silly. Oh, sorry, I forgot. You're a Republican. Republicans honor the Constitutioin above all else.

Gotta love that last sentence. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 28, 2012 07:46 AM (UOM48)

156
oh this is rich!

*incoming transmission from Moonbat One*

Posted by: soothsayer at January 28, 2012 07:46 AM (sqkOB)

157 Bernanke never worked for Goldman.  He is a Princeton academic and has passed Senate confirmation twice.

Don't go Paultard and blame the entire Fed for Greenspan's fuck-ups.

Greenspan said "Markets always self regulate" - what a fucking idiot (except he admitted he had been wrong in 2009)

TARP was the Bush gang's answer for "self regulation".

Posted by: Clarence at January 28, 2012 07:46 AM (z0HdK)

158 Damn italics fail on the first paragraph. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 28, 2012 07:47 AM (UOM48)

159 The list of GS employees was actually longer, but I didn't want to break the blog. It was interesting to see how supposedly big bank friendly George Bush had fewer GS employees in the White House than his majesty.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston *now accuracy approved by Blue Hen* at January 28, 2012 07:47 AM (ijjAe)

160

157....That's is interesting, but where do Romulus and Remus come in?

.

What's confusing is.....there was the City of Rome, which came first.....and then there was the Country of Rome. .....The Romulus and Remus story was for the city, the other mythology was for the greater Rome, the country.

Posted by: wheatie at January 28, 2012 07:47 AM (ALwK/)

161 Why do I always giggle when Sooth tells shitforbrains Clearance to get back under the stairs??

Because it's so damn funny.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at January 28, 2012 07:49 AM (phgnV)

162

[redacted], please sign the petition calling for an investigation of James O'Keefe for committing voter fraud in New Hampshire.

James O'Keefe, the right-wing prankster who became famous for a doctored video that led to the downfall of ACORN, recently coordinated a stunt to obtain ballots in the New Hampshire primary using the names of dead people.

His goal was to prove that strict voter ID laws are necessary. However, what he and his associates did was illegal:

Hamline University law professor David Schultz told TPM that there’s “no doubt” that O’Keefe’s investigators violated the law.

“In either case, if they were intentionally going in and trying to fraudulently obtain a ballot, they violated the law,” Schultz said. “So right off the bat, what they did violated the law.”

O'Keefe and his co-conspirators were also incredibly insensitive:

Activist filmmaker James O’Keefe secretly recorded video showing his operative using Roger Groux’s name and address to obtain a Republican ballot at Manchester polls Tuesday. The U.S. Navy veteran died Dec. 31 at an assisted living home. His family held funeral services Monday, his widow said. “Oh my God, I know what he would say, ‘Call the cops, call the police,’ ” Rachel Groux said.

James O'Keefe has made a living using lies to ruin the lives of others. Now he should be investigated for a repulsive, open-and-shut case of voter fraud.

Sign the petition calling for an investigation of James O'Keefe. We are working with allies to deliver it the New Hampshire Attorney General next week.

Keep fighting,
Chris Cocksucker Bowers
Campaign Director, Daily Kos


Posted by: soothsayer at January 28, 2012 07:49 AM (sqkOB)

163

Yeah, CC, the lot we get to pick our GOP candidates from is the worst in a long time and reminds me of McLame in '08 and Dole in '96. Weak sauce, all of them. Another depressing thing (which reminds me to start drinking soon today) is that this really is one of the most important elections that I can ever remember. We abolutely have to complete the task that was started in the '010 midterms and continue to purge Washington and the GOP of Progressives. If we don't, we are literally sunk, and we'll never be able to get our freedom back with out a civil war, a possibility I don't want to even think about.


We've had nearly one hundred years of Progressivism and they are nearing their final success of destroying our Constitution, our ability to govern ourselves, our economy and our way of life.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Rioting Christian at January 28, 2012 07:49 AM (d0Tfm)

164
Investigate the investigators!


Posted by: soothsayer at January 28, 2012 07:50 AM (sqkOB)

165 --Read The Aeneid.

Posted by: logprof is glad at least the smileys work at January 28, 2012 11:45 AM (ykSKg)


I'll pass, but I read a summary.  Thanks.

Posted by: really ... at January 28, 2012 07:50 AM (X3lox)

166 #167  I giggle when I see "Chris Cocksucker Bowers." 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 28, 2012 07:50 AM (UOM48)

167
Prosecute the prosecutors!

Posted by: soothsayer at January 28, 2012 07:50 AM (sqkOB)

168 George Will is channeling the philosopher William James, whose work "The Moral Equivalent of War" laid the foundation for many efforts of the progressives Will mentions, such as Walter Lippman. Jimmy Carter directly referenced James' work in his 1977 speech "The energy crisis is REAL." The idea is similar to the idea that Paul Krugman advanced last year when he incredibly suggested governments trick people into thinking that aliens were invading, so we could increase spending and organize society toward the common effort of defeating the Martians. The idea is to come up with an organizational factor as imperative as a war, a mandate-giver, but one not so messy and dreadful. Like, say, with AGW, the libtards are suckers for it every time. Just gotta feed them key scientific studiez!

Posted by: Cowboy at January 28, 2012 07:51 AM (So+7G)

169
Kill all those who expose us!

Posted by: soothsayer at January 28, 2012 07:51 AM (sqkOB)

170 #165 Ancient mythology isn't exactly precise. Before printing presses and the large scale availability of paper writing down folklore wasn't a priority. Oral histories also have a lot of deviation in cultures where maintaining the integrity of those histories isn't considered paramount to the cultural identity.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston *now with accuracy approved by Blue Hen* at January 28, 2012 07:51 AM (ijjAe)

171 164 The list of GS employees was actually longer, but I didn't want to break the blog. It was interesting to see how supposedly big bank friendly George Bush had fewer GS employees in the White House than his majesty.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston *now accuracy approved by Blue Hen* at January 28, 2012 11:47 AM (ijjAe)


--Exactly.  I also messed up my wording above to imply that The Ben Bernank was former GS.  In any event, Geithner is part of the Cabinet.

Posted by: logprof is glad at least the smileys work at January 28, 2012 07:51 AM (ykSKg)

172 where do Romulus and Remus come in?

Is there an explanation in the Star Trek universe as to why Romulans were so enamored of ancient Rome, which they did not know about? Parallel civilizations evolving along exactly the same lines, or something?

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 28, 2012 07:51 AM (bgAe9)

173
Chris is very proud of his c-sucking status. So proud, in fact, that he made it his middle name.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 28, 2012 07:51 AM (sqkOB)

174
145 "Cabinet" is not a weasel word. No one from Obama's cabinet ever worked for Goldman Sachs (not that there is anything wrong with that).

Posted by: Clarence at January 28, 2012 11:39 AM


Ahem!

Posted by: Turbo Tim Geithner at January 28, 2012 07:52 AM (Y+DPZ)

175 In any event, Geithner is part of the Cabinet.

Geithner was never at GS, though.

He's been leeching off the public purse for almost his entire life.

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 28, 2012 07:53 AM (bgAe9)

176 the Emperor Hadrian built, the largest pagan temple ever constructed in the city

Little known fact: He had a sister named Vibratus.

Posted by: Not Drinking Nearly Enough at January 28, 2012 07:53 AM (HtUdo)

177 I'll pass, but I read a summary. Thanks.

Posted by: really ... at January 28, 2012 11:50 AM (X3lox)


--Oh yeah, I never read it either, but did get the summary in ninth grade from Edith Hamilton's mythology text.

Posted by: logprof is glad at least the smileys work at January 28, 2012 07:53 AM (ykSKg)

178 I'm having a new snappy uniform made as we speak!  By an Italian tailor, of course...

Posted by: Kesselring at January 28, 2012 07:54 AM (v5IXp)

179 Geithner never worked for Goldman Sachs, you idiots.  He is a lifelong government bureaucrat. 


Posted by: Clarence at January 28, 2012 07:54 AM (z0HdK)

180 It's a well known fact that not one of Obama's cabinet ever worked for Goldman Sachs. It's also a well known fact that none of them ever worked for anybody

Posted by: Clarence Clavin at January 28, 2012 07:56 AM (Y+DPZ)

181 The 2008 financial crisis was caused by the Democrats.

Posted by: eman at January 28, 2012 07:56 AM (pn8u0)

182 "165 157....That's is interesting, but where do Romulus and Remus come in? They were descendents oa Aeneas, the refugee Trojan prince. Their father was Mars, God of war (and, incidentally, Venus's lover). Clearly, the ancient Romans saw much symbolism in the fact Roma spelled backwards meant love - to much to be mere coincidence. When centuries later the squishy-Christian/semi-pagan Constantine moved the capital to Byzantium (Instanbul), he justified it as saying the Romans were returning to their ancient roots. He named the new city Roma Nova, or "New Rome," with the ritul name Flora, to "flourish."

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 28, 2012 07:56 AM (niZvt)

183 >>Geithner never worked for Goldman Sachs, you idiots. He is a lifelong government bureaucrat.

Posted by: Clarence at January 28, 2012 11:54 AM (z0HdK)


The idiot projection is serially hilarious.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 28, 2012 07:57 AM (ZJCDy)

184
In Bizzarro Universe..

exposing voter fraud and voter disenfranchisement is voter fraud.


Posted by: soothsayer at January 28, 2012 07:58 AM (sqkOB)

185 Idiots rule

Posted by: Jane's Addiction at January 28, 2012 07:58 AM (ykSKg)

186 Thanks, CoolCzech.  Neat stuff.

Posted by: really ... at January 28, 2012 07:59 AM (X3lox)

187 Please do not feed the trolls such a Clarice.  Make them go back to slamming down their typical fare of donkey jizz.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at January 28, 2012 08:00 AM (WUWb9)

188 Geithner never worked for Goldman Sachs, you idiots. He is a lifelong government bureaucrat.

Posted by: Clarence at January 28, 2012 11:54 AM


OK raykon, you got that one right. He is a career hack who never held a job in the private sector. Kind of explains why doing his taxes is such a difficult task for him

Posted by: Clarence Clavin at January 28, 2012 08:00 AM (Y+DPZ)

189 Posted by: Clarence at January 28, 2012 11:54 AM (z0HdK)

Does the neighbor you steal wi-fi from block google?

Posted by: Not Drinking Nearly Enough at January 28, 2012 08:01 AM (HtUdo)

190 Posted by: Hrothgar at January 28, 2012 11:02 AM (i3+c5)

Neoconservatism smashes constitutional matter as if to corner the god particle.

From Aesop, "Greedy, greedy makes a hungry puppy."

America has the US Constitution, THE matter worth fighting to protect. Whereas, advancing interventionist military wars of aggression also removed the Rule of Law recognized "standing" within the US Judicial Branch.

On the status quo bandwagon, the legal bloggers here counter illogically that there is no dissolution of our Civil Rights in the Patriot Act (originally promised as temporary and to be rescinded power upon expiration) or more recent augmentation of that law's authoritarianism. Furthermore, these legal bloggers insist that no constitutional article is a hill worth dying on. Finally,  these same legal voices advocate that the retention of constitutional integrity is itself insane, radical, dangerous, and not to be tolerated under any circumstance. Relegated to antiquity, incinerated and "sanitized" for public consumption, the neoconservative candidates (Mitt, Newt) propagandize revisionist whole cloth sophism as if logically upholding the authentic article. Rather than protecting the Constitution as Source, they betray their allegiance to authoritarianism.

Neoconservative voices remove Civil Liberty while campaigning "Can't We All Get Along? -- Never" refusing the truth of historical record, insisting on the self serving lie, sermonizing ignorance as bliss. "Promise them anything; just get their votes." Voters jump on the Vanitas vanitatum omnia vanitas bandwagon. Misery loves company, nothing new about Alinsky tactics. (Mt 23:37)

Posted by: Panzernashorn at January 28, 2012 08:01 AM (lpWVn)

191
In case it slipped by you, these assholes actually went to a grieving widow and told her (I'm safely surmising) that someone used her dead husband's name to get a ballot.

That's all they told her. Again, I'm surmising, here. What's interesting was the widow's reaction -- Call the police! That happens to be the exact reaction by the Left when they know of and hear of dead people voting for Democrats.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 28, 2012 08:02 AM (sqkOB)

192 Weeeee , we got one right! Fweee Chock-wittttt !!!!

Posted by: Clarence & Corky at January 28, 2012 08:04 AM (Y+DPZ)

193

193
In Bizzarro Universe.....

exposing voter fraud and voter disenfranchisement is voter fraud.

.

Aayup. ....And we are definitely living in bizzaro world. .....Which is why, just watch, they will point to the fiasco in Virginia and say:  

.

"Look there, Romney conspired to keep the other candidates off the ballot! Romney caused voters to be disenfranchised! That's election tampering! Romney is a rich guy who is trying to buy the election!"

.

It's all about the demagoguery.....and what we give them to use in their propaganda machine. .....That's why throughout this whole thing, I have been trying to look at "what they will use against us".....and I seem to be pretty alone in this.

Posted by: wheatie at January 28, 2012 08:05 AM (ALwK/)

194 Politics, shmolitics. I just instigated a spur of the moment bruch excursion. Heading to a well-established place that's nearby but for some reason we've never tried. I'm about to go hoover either a big stack of blueberry pancakes or a steaming pile of bacon, or both.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 28, 2012 08:07 AM (HethX)

195 Any party that has a stranglehold on Chicago has no standing to cry about voter fraud

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2012 08:08 AM (Y+DPZ)

196 Progressives, fascists. It's all the same shit.

Posted by: real joe at January 28, 2012 08:09 AM (w7Lv+)

197 See to it your kids don't bully nerds. The nerd grows up damaged and believing in things like "social justice", gets a law degree and ends up in politics trying to exact revenge on strong, successful people. I'm kind of serious about this. Think Waxman every got his ass kicked in grade school? How about every day.

Posted by: Gault Falcon at January 28, 2012 08:09 AM (evTki)

198 If all the women in my family were laid end to end ...

Posted by: Clarence Clavin at January 28, 2012 08:09 AM (Y+DPZ)

199 Two things I learned from Geithner's wiki entry:

1.  His middle name is Franz.

2.   Franz!

Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2012 08:10 AM (ykSKg)

200 While George tends to be a little too establishment for me sometimes, he's also proof positive the pen is mightier than the sword.

Posted by: Bodacious at January 28, 2012 08:10 AM (9ZiIe)

201 If all the women in my family were laid end to end ...

Posted by: Clarence Clavin at January 28, 2012 12:09 PM


What's my percentage for being their pimp?

Posted by: Clarence Clavin at January 28, 2012 08:10 AM (Y+DPZ)

202 It's gonna suck not having real football this weekend.

Posted by: logprof is happy at least the smilies work at January 28, 2012 08:11 AM (ykSKg)

203 What's my percentage for being their pimp?

Posted by: Clarence Clavin at January 28, 2012 12:10 PM (Y+DPZ)


3000%.  That's fair.

Posted by: King Barky at January 28, 2012 08:12 AM (X3lox)

204 While George tends to be a little too establishment for me sometimes, he's also proof positive the pen is mightier than the sword. Posted by: Bodacious at January 28, 2012 12:10 PM

I'll take the penis mightier for $600

Posted by: Sean Connery at January 28, 2012 08:12 AM (Y+DPZ)

205 Hank Paulson worked for Goldman.  Timaaaay has always worked for the government and think tanks and such.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 28, 2012 08:13 AM (oZfic)

206 Based on 2009 tax data, an income (AGI) of $343,927.00 or more places you in the top 1%.
Based solely on her income from Harvard, $429,000 , Elizabeth Warren is a 1%-er.

Top 1% $343,927.00 or more with an average tax rate of 24.01%
Top 5% $154,643.00 or more with an average tax rate of 20.46%
Top 10% $112,124.00 or more with an average tax rate of 18.05%
Top 25% $ 66,193.00 or more with an average tax rate of 14.68%
Top 50% $ 32,396.00 or more with an average tax rate of 12.50%

Posted by: George Harrison at January 28, 2012 08:14 AM (e8kgV)

207 #61  Yeah,  I saw that a couple of weeks ago.  Madonna an Baldwin will both be here  in a GOP city and state.  I expect ungracious comments from both of them.

Did you know the Mayor of Indianapolis is GOP,  and is a retired Marine officer who specialized in logistics?

He will probably only get a 5-secon interview in non-prime time.

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 28, 2012 08:15 AM (GoIUi)

208 I'll take the penis mightier for $600

I knew someone would get to it before me.

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 28, 2012 08:16 AM (gTBIi)

209 ...proceeding in lock step, shoulder to shoulder, obedient to orders from a commanding officer

Santorum is OK with this line of thinking.

Posted by: Panzer Trout at January 28, 2012 08:17 AM (j5CHE)

210

206  See to it your kids don't bully nerds. The nerd grows up damaged and believing in things like "social justice", gets a law degree and ends up in politics...

.

This applies to both Santorum and Romney as well. ....They were both nerds who 'got law degrees and ended up in politics'.

.

Trouble is....they don't have any charisma like the cute black guy from Chicago. 

Posted by: wheatie at January 28, 2012 08:18 AM (ALwK/)

211 Italics are broke?

Posted by: Panzer Trout at January 28, 2012 08:18 AM (j5CHE)

212 <i>italics</i>

Posted by: Panzer Trout at January 28, 2012 08:19 AM (j5CHE)

213 Did you know the Mayor of Indianapolis is GOP, and is a retired Marine officer who specialized in logistics?

He will probably only get a 5-secon interview in non-prime time.

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 28, 2012 12:15 PM (GoIUi)

--He actually got interviewed on our local sports station this week.  It would be ironic if he got more air time in a drive-home show in Winnipeg than in the States.

Posted by: logprof is happy at least the smilies work at January 28, 2012 08:19 AM (ykSKg)

214 Panzer.....try using [brackets] instead of < >.

Posted by: wheatie at January 28, 2012 08:20 AM (ALwK/)

215

I've noticed that when lefties complain about military spending, it's not the spending they're complaining about. They're complaining because people who will willingly spend on defense aren't so willing to spend on the left's noble causes.

They're already dreaming about spending the money that will be saved by reducing the military, so don't expect tax cuts or deficit reduction for the peace dividend.

Posted by: Frankly at January 28, 2012 08:21 AM (YaImr)

216 Tampa Bay Bucs Cheerleader gallery for those of us suffering from real football withdrawals;

http://tinyurl.com/7slmzcw

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2012 08:21 AM (Y+DPZ)

217 Voter Fraud only requires two things: an urban machine and unions. Everything else are details.

The real fraud happens after the polls close.
"How many didn't vote?"
"625"
"OK, here are 450 ballots."
"What if that's not enough?"
"There are another 150 in the trunk of my car"

Posted by: Panzer Trout at January 28, 2012 08:22 AM (j5CHE)

218 like this?

Posted by: Panzer Trout at January 28, 2012 08:24 AM (j5CHE)

219 I've noticed that when lefties complain about military spending, it's not the spending they're complaining about. They're complaining because people who will willingly spend on defense aren't so willing to spend on the left's noble causes.


Posted by: Frankly at January 28, 2012 12:21 PM (YaImr)



But almost every example the Left cites of federal government spending that actually returned anything to society was a defense project!  It's funny ... kinda.

Posted by: really at January 28, 2012 08:24 AM (X3lox)

220 As far as I can tell the ONLY agency of the Federal Gov taking huge budget hits is the US Military. And that has always worked out so well in the past?

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 28, 2012 08:25 AM (i6RpT)

221 As far as I can tell the ONLY agency of the Federal Gov taking huge budget hits is the US Military. And that has always worked out so well in the past?

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 28, 2012 12:25 PM (i6RpT)

And the military are one of the few federal functions enumerated in the "dead" Constitution.

Most of the perpetually funded crap is unenumerated in the "living" Cnstitution.

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 28, 2012 08:27 AM (i3+c5)

222 Are any of our Moronettes former cheerleaders, and do they have pics of themselves in uniform?

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2012 08:28 AM (Y+DPZ)

223 And the Left's response to the military having contributed so much to society (as it has ALWAYS been the case that much of Man's advancement has come from military necessity) is to try and pervert whatever is left of the military by forcing it to be like the rest of the government - which never contributed much of anything and most parts of which are more threats to our liberties than any benefits.

Posted by: really ... at January 28, 2012 08:33 AM (X3lox)

224 Slow Joe just doesn't like Indians!

Biden Employs Indian Accent During NH Speech

Oh, and for that Discover Card commercial, he says "Nancy" instead of "Peggy"

http://tinyurl.com/7t6gmee



Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2012 08:34 AM (Y+DPZ)

225 Or the pipeline. His base is happy. If Congress actually musters a testicle and passes it anyway, he'll bluster, point the finger and later claim credit.
Posted by: Blue Hen at January 28, 2012 12:29 PM


Warren Buffett is even happier, since he owns a shitload of Burlington Northern stock and they haul the oil that the pipeline would have

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2012 08:35 AM (Y+DPZ)

226

The catÂ’s out of the bag ...

Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi, a Romney supporter, went on The Record last night. The Florida Republican told Greta Van Susteren that Mitt wants Romneycare in every state.

She also said she would be on RomneyÂ’s Health Care Advisory Team when heÂ’s president.

http://tinyurl.com/77xh4mj

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at January 28, 2012 08:36 AM (7+pP9)

227 Italics?

No real football on, but TNT has the original Friday Night Lights on now followed by We Are Marshall and Miracle. I love love LOVE watching Miracle.

Posted by: NC Ref at January 28, 2012 08:37 AM (/izg2)

228 235 As far as I can tell the ONLY agency of the Federal Gov taking huge budget hits is the US Military. And that has always worked out so well in the past? Politicians have done that to the military going back to the Revolution. While the troops suffered from no fuel, food, clothing, and even shoes at Valley Forge and Morristown, NJ, politicians and their allies in Philadelphia were hosting incredibl lavish soirees to one-up each other. Needless to say, George Washington was deeply pissed .

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 28, 2012 08:38 AM (niZvt)

229 What picture ID requirements stop is dead voting or multiple voting.

Election "fixing" via tampering with the machines is only stopped by having an honest AG or law officer. But until they start sending people to jail for long terms for vote fraud it will never stop.

Posted by: Vic at January 28, 2012 08:39 AM (YdQQY)

230 I've mentioned this guy before on a Sunday 'book thread' once--Tom Kratman writes and is published by Baen Books--yes it is 'SciFi'--and Baen exercised a habit of pairing new talent with established ones in his stable--in this case, kratman had to finish up several of John Ringo's messes.  He has his own website now--I view him as a follow on Ralph Peters--almost, if not quite next generation in this vein--he gives a pretty good account of a future society that might reflect the flip side of your observations here, i.e., a Sparta culture, or alternatively, a right wing militarized one (less the naziism elements) of necessity.  His first solo effort (which I read 4th in his offerings, and didn't think much of at the time) was 'A State of Disobedience'--which of course is set in the not too distant future HERE, and involves the state of Texas attempting, out of constitutional necessity of becoming a Republic (again)--shades of Ed Harris (looney leftist, I know) in the movie, The Rock...I happen to believe that fascism is a key element of human nature.  All you have to decide is which side of the right left spectrum you are most comfortable on.  The eternal struggle (or ideal) is limiting the tendency either in the middle or one point to the right...just saying..

Posted by: Monsieur DaFarge (quietly attending his knitting while glaring from the corner) at January 28, 2012 08:40 AM (fOvMn)

231

239.....Warren Buffett is even happier, since he owns a shitload of Burlington Northern stock and they haul the oil that the pipeline would have [transported].

.

Yeah, and I think he owns more than that. .....I seem to remember Charlie Gasparino or Eric Bolling talking about how Buffett starting buying up railroads right after Barky got in.


 

Posted by: wheatie at January 28, 2012 08:42 AM (ALwK/)

232 Yes, he really said this today

Obama Weekly Address: "We Weren't Sent Here To Wage Perpetual Political Campaigns"http://tinyurl.com/7fzo3zn

This isnÂ’t about me. We werenÂ’t sent here to wage perpetual political campaigns against each other. We were sent here to serve the American people. And they deserve better than gridlock and games. One senator gumming up the works for the whole country is certainly not what our founding fathers envisioned.

During my Address on Tuesday night, I spoke about the incredible example set by the men and women of our armed forces. At a time when too many of our institutions have let us down, they exceed all expectations. TheyÂ’re not consumed with personal ambition. They donÂ’t obsess over their differences. They focus on the mission at hand. They work together. 


Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2012 08:44 AM (Y+DPZ)

233 Yeah, and I think he owns more than that. .....I seem to remember Charlie Gasparino or Eric Bolling talking about how Buffett starting buying up railroads right after Barky got in.
Posted by: wheatie at January 28, 2012 12:42 PM


Well, you don't think all those wingnuts are just going to DRIVE themselves to the FEMA camps, do you?

Posted by: Warren Buffett, the Orifice of Obama at January 28, 2012 08:46 AM (Y+DPZ)

234 So here I am sitting in paradise within a stone's throw from the ocean on a private balcony drinking my coffee and I read the Atty General of Florida, a republican was on Fretanlast night stating Romney wants Romney are in every state and that it saves money. Oh and this Pam Bondinagrees with all of that and if Romney becomes president she is going to be on his healthcare advisory board. This just ticks me off. Check out gatewaypundit for the story.

Posted by: Jornolist at January 28, 2012 08:46 AM (0r9H9)

235

239 .....Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi, a Romney supporter, went on The Record last night. The Florida Republican told Greta Van Susteren that Mitt wants Romneycare in every state.

.......She also said she would be on RomneyÂ’s Health Care Advisory Team when heÂ’s president.

.

I remember how hostile she was towards Rick Perry, during Huckabee's first 'debate'.....which was set up like a fucking inquisition, with three lawyers set up as the grand inquisitors.

.

And yeah.....progressives just luuuve them some of that social engineering. .....That's why they went nuclear on Newt for that "right wing engineering" remark that he made.

Posted by: wheatie at January 28, 2012 08:47 AM (ALwK/)

236 Sorry about the a o e gibberish. I am working off an iPhone. Pam Bondi was on Fox last nigh stating Romney want top down style Romney care in every state. Pam Bondi is the attorney General in Florida and is a republican who is duplicitous just like Romney in saying they are against a govt mandate but yet support and want to expand Romney care style laws in every state.

Posted by: Jornolist at January 28, 2012 08:51 AM (0r9H9)

237 Reading Goldbergs liberal fascism as I type. Next time some lefty calls you a fascist ask them besides the killing of jews where exactly do liberals differ from the nazi platform?

Posted by: AndrewsDad at January 28, 2012 08:54 AM (V4KQI)

238
Fyodor Dostoyevsky summed it up in his novel The Brothers Karamazov, in the chapter on "The Legend of the Grand Inquisitor".

In the Legend, the Grand Inquisitor states that he and his fellow clerics have conspired to relieve people of their freedom, in order to ensure their happiness. In place of freedom, he offers three things: bread, mystery, and authority.

So, how does this relate to the JEF?

Well, bread is obvious: he is the Food Stamp president, after all.

Authority is obvious, too: the authority of the "genius" graduate of a super-elite university - the US equivalent of Eton or Harrow. We peasants must do what the elite tell us, because they are, well, ever so more elite than us.

But mystery? Well, what could be more mysterious, in the spiritual sense, than the progressive project of the perfection of Man: they know where perfection lies, and how to achieve it, and all those who stand in their way are therefore, by definition, haters of Humankind.

Barky is the just latest in a long, long line of those bloody ignorant fools who think they are idealists, but are simply striving after power. He's a junior-grade Napoleon, a petty Lenin, a C-average Woodrow Wilson, a tongue-tied FDR; but still, with the capacity to wound the Republic deeply, perhaps mortally. He must be defeated.

Posted by: Brown Line at January 28, 2012 08:54 AM (6yJi7)

239

I hear you guys on reaching out to others. Spoke with a friend who is a reflexive democrat and who I suspect voted for JEF. These debates are taking a toll in that they breed disgust with GOP candidates. My friend has been watching the debates.

That said, I think I reached him on two points. First, I said America needs a leader and that Obama clearly is not a leader; he is divisive and cowardly. Second, I said that even though Romney and Gingrich and Santorum are flawed, at least they appear to at least "like" America and Americans and that this country deserves a leader who doen't loathe America. He agreed.

He refered to the JEF as BamBam. We are winning this person to person to person. Screw the MFM. In the end the SCOAMF meme is strong for people like my buddy. We all got to have the balls to repeat it even when awkward.

I am preparing for a weekend in Feb for my wife's work. I will be surrounded by 8 educated libs. Not lefties, but libs. I will help them test their premises and put doubt in their minds.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at January 28, 2012 09:00 AM (s0vAq)

240 "...rest assured that when you cut through their high-minded bullshit, the heart of a petty tyrant beats in every 'progressive'."

One need only look at California for confirmation.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at January 28, 2012 09:16 AM (l2fOr)

241 16
I found it:

“It is hard to fix a specific starting date for the progressive race to the Great Society,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “but a good guess might be 1888, the year [when socialist] Edward Bellamy's novel Looking Backward burst on the American scene.” Set in the year 2000, this futuristic book depicts a utopian society run with the hierarchical efficiency of a military battalion. All workers in this idealized world belong to a unified “industrial army” that labors within the confines of an economy controlled by a coterie of central planners who are deemed to be more capable of fostering prosperity and productivity than is a free marketplace. A preacher in the story lauds the earthly paradise, while the population at large looks back upon the “age of individualism” with a blend of amusement and derision.

http://tinyurl.com/83ajpbw

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at January 28, 2012 10:46 AM (7+pP9)

 

Btw, morons, this book is available through Project Gutenberg, which charges what the thought contained therein is worth.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 28, 2012 09:18 AM (TybtS)

242 testes

Posted by: Nutsack at January 28, 2012 09:20 AM (D0eN0)

243 <i>Testicles</i>

Posted by: Cast Iron at January 28, 2012 09:23 AM (EL+OC)

244 Fail

Posted by: Cast Iron at January 28, 2012 09:23 AM (EL+OC)

245 59 the mfm is really what needs to be taken down and rebuilt. without them , the progressives wouldn't get away with it.

Posted by: willow at January 28, 2012 11:09 AM (TomZ9)

 

This.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 28, 2012 09:35 AM (TybtS)

246 No real football on, but TNT has the original Friday Night Lights on now followed by We Are Marshall and Miracle. I love love LOVE watching Miracle.

Posted by: NC Ref at January 28, 2012 12:37 PM (/izg2)

--That's good, but I am eager to see NFL Network replay the last Giants-Pats Super Bowl.

Posted by: logprof is happy at least the smilies work at January 28, 2012 10:34 AM (ykSKg)

247 I wouldn't like to see the end of politics (not possible anyway), but I would like to see an abolishment of 'everybody votes' democracy.

In its place, let any adult person volunteer, if they choose, for a difficult (perhaps also dangerous) term of service in the military or elsewhere. Upon successful completion of their initial term, let them become full citizens with voting rights.

Yes, this isn't my idea, and yes, you know exactly where it comes from.

But this idea of having everyone -- even young single women! -- vote and participate in politics is a bad one.

Posted by: Random at January 28, 2012 10:46 AM (YiE0S)

248 Endless italics!</em></i>

Posted by: Random at January 28, 2012 10:46 AM (YiE0S)

249
[close italics]

Posted by: Random at January 28, 2012 10:47 AM (YiE0S)

250
[Or not!]

Posted by: Random at January 28, 2012 10:47 AM (YiE0S)

251 test
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Posted by: Random at January 28, 2012 10:52 AM (YiE0S)

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"... fictitious global warming ..." !?!

 

Why ... everyone knows that the Earth warmed about a full DEGREE over the last century or so! (Insert dramatic end-of-the-world music here).

 

OK, that was sarcastic, but most people - even skeptics at least agree that warming occurred during the 20th century. But the thing is, you can always find a period of warming if you adjust the endpoints. The latest stretch of 10 years or so has shown no statistically significant warming at all, much the the chagrin of AGW alarmists. Still, it might be more accurate to say "fictitious AGW", and even less controvertial to question whether AGW, the the extent it might exist, is significant (having an effect of only a fraction of a degree).

 

Personally, I'd question the temperature histories altogether. The land-based measurements in the US suck, and the ones in the rest of the world are worse. Similarly, the ones in the US go back a little over a hundred years (not long enough), and the rest of the world is worse. The land measurements are of poor quality, and are inadaquate to measure the temperature over land. Figure in that the land is only 30% of the Earth, and it's a joke.

 

The satellite measurements at least have global coverage, but only go back a few decades. Nobody seems to question them, but (being someone in a related technical field) wonder just how accurate a measurement of temperature a satellite can take. I'm not saying it's impossible; I'd just like to see somebody review that because I don't see how it could work. As a result of the Space Race, people tend to believe anything that comes from a satellite.

Posted by: Optimizer at January 28, 2012 11:18 AM (As94z)

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'Whether they're fetishizing China, attempting to reorder society to combat fictitious global warming or taking over the healthcare system, rest assured that when you cut through their high-minded bullshit, the heart of a petty tyrant beats in every "progressive".'

--Andy

 

I FULLY AGREE.  The progressives are fascists, part deux.

Posted by: KR1 at January 28, 2012 12:47 PM (oEfom)

254 Obama has to go.Newt,Mitt,Santorum,any of them are superior.

Posted by: steevy at January 28, 2012 01:02 PM (7W3wI)

255 "Barack Obama will require you towork. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your  divisions. That you come out of your isolation!"

Posted by: 66chevelle at January 28, 2012 01:04 PM (QjSgY)

256 "I've already answered. like, six questions from you guys.  Can't I just finish my Waffen now?"

Posted by: 66chevelle at January 28, 2012 01:11 PM (QjSgY)

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Posted by: Deathknyte at January 28, 2012 02:11 PM (UqZ9x)

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