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December 22, 2012

Gun Control: A Discussion, Not A Lecture. [dri]
— Open Blogger

Larry Correia, over at Monster Hunter Nation has written an excellent framework of the current gun control debate. Correia, a true firearms expert, takes a systematic, point by point approach in exploring all of the arguments being made by gun control advocates and refutes them with facts and common sense. It is a must read for anyone planning on discussing this issue intelligently with friends and relatives over Christmas dinner. H/T to Prof Reynolds at instapundit H/T to Bob Owens (on the sidebar) and a special H/T to AoSHQer Andy

So now that there is a new tragedy the president wants to have a Â“national conversation on gunsÂ”. HereÂ’s the thing. Until this national conversation is willing to entertain allowing teachers to carry concealed weapons, then it isnÂ’t a conversation at all, it is a lecture.

The single best way to respond to a mass shooter is with an immediate, violent response. The vast majority of the time, as soon as a mass shooter meets serious resistance, it bursts their fantasy world bubble. Then they kill themselves or surrender. This has happened over and over again.

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1 Ann Coulter's piece shows how hideously and how far the media will go to hide the facts. http://www.anncoulter.com/ In a nonsense "study" going around the Internet right now, Mother Jones magazine claims to have produced its own study of all public shootings in the last 30 years and concludes: "In not a single case was the killing stopped by a civilian using a gun." This will come as a shock to people who know something about the subject. The magazine reaches its conclusion by simply excluding all cases where an armed civilian stopped the shooter: They looked only at public shootings where four or more people were killed, i.e., the ones where the shooter wasn't stopped. If we care about reducing the number of people killed in mass shootings, shouldn't we pay particular attention to the cases where the aspiring mass murderer was prevented from getting off more than a couple rounds?

Posted by: beach weekender at December 22, 2012 05:19 AM (LpQbZ)

2 I could probably stand a lecture, actually. It's been a long time and my shot grouping has suffered.

Posted by: fluffy at December 22, 2012 05:21 AM (z9HTb)

3 DAY 46 1,414 to go Mayans, Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, MIRV's, mutants, malcontents, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, miscreants, momzers, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 22, 2012 05:26 AM (XkWWK)

4 The only gun control I would like to contemplate is whether a side by side grip or over under grip is better.

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 22, 2012 05:28 AM (M79pc)

5 I'm glad that Larry's essay is getting this much attention. The few liberals that show up and attempt to refute everything he posted are getting beaten like pinatas.

Posted by: NR Pax at December 22, 2012 05:31 AM (QkEg0)

6 The majority of responsible gun owners agree that no one should own guns. Anyone with a different opinion is an irresponsible gun owner (and probably a TEA Party domestic terrorist as well).

Posted by: Barky Ochooma at December 22, 2012 05:32 AM (Cnqmv)

7 The "national conversation" on guns by Preezy Choom will only include what he wants it to include. It will not be based on factual statistics, or logical thinking with regard to concealed carry in hot spot areas, such as school settings. As that Coulter piece above points out, Choom, and by extension, his media droolers and imbeciles will completely ignore that side of the discussion. Blogs will continue to laugh and wail at the thought of putting "guns in the hands of toddlers." That's how they debate. Irrationally. Just look at the Fat Boy Moore. Injecting race into it. How truly misguided can a person be? How off the mark? How utterly ridiculous? There is no limit. Incidentally, I'm a big believer in serious lockdown measures in schools....all classroom door being completely reinforced and automatically locked in the event of a madman gaining access. Something they can't get through, shoot through or break down. Coupled with concealed carry...it could prevent a lot.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 22, 2012 05:34 AM (VxXxn)

8 >> H/T to Prof Reynolds at instapundit *cough* sidebar *cough*

Posted by: Andy at December 22, 2012 05:36 AM (OZPoa)

9 Last night ABC broadcast an anti-gun propaganda show. It was infuriatingly wrong. Sheep gotta be herded, I guess.

Posted by: eman at December 22, 2012 05:40 AM (EWsrI)

10
It is a good well written article and analysis. The best parts are the statistics he gives. And yet libs will just ignore these compelling facts because "do something".

PS - the piece has been mentioned on AoS 3 or 4 main posts, so Quintuple Post! New record.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 22, 2012 05:44 AM (69Mdf)

11 eman, was that the one with Gwen Ifill? I saw it in the rolling TV guide on my MIL's tv last night. I could only imagine the bull they were going to spew directly into the minds of the low info American sheep.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 22, 2012 05:44 AM (VxXxn)

12 I'll also add here that Larry Correa's books (The Monster Hunter International series and the Grimnoire Chronicles) are some of my favorite 'guilty pleasure' reads.

No attempt at literary fiction. But a good combination of gun porn w/ B-Movie Horror hijinks and a liberal dash of witty oneliners on top.

Not Dresden Files good, but definitely worth reading if you're a fan of urban fantasy or horror.

Posted by: Shawn at December 22, 2012 05:44 AM (/lltO)

13 NRA member and proud of it but c'mon Wayne... video games? And a whole new school bureaucracy? End "gun-free" zones and permit concealed carry by qualified adults and you've got what we need.

Posted by: DaMav at December 22, 2012 05:46 AM (rT08W)

14 Why not inject race into it? The only time libs get excited are when whites are perpetrators and victims. Because they're racist. The Beltway Sniper was a HUGE story until we found out who he was.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 22, 2012 05:48 AM (v2S39)

15 Comprehensive gun care. Everyone who can afford a gun must buy and carry it, or else pay a fine. And those who do have guns must pay a little extra so that poor people can have access to affordable guns.

Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 22, 2012 05:48 AM (7M6OD)

16 *cough* sidebar *cough*

It's like being in AAA ball, then getting called up to the big league.

Posted by: fluffy at December 22, 2012 05:49 AM (z9HTb)

17 Now that the emotional shock is over about Sandy Hook, let's focus on the problem we're trying to solve. The problem is that emotionally unstable people sometimes break into schools and kill our children.

Now, how do we normally protect peoples' lives in this nation? How do we protect the President's life? With trained people carrying firearms. How do we protect politicians' lives? With trained people carrying firearms. How do celebrities protect their lives? With trained people carrying firearms. How do everyday citizens protect their lives? By using firearms.

So how should we protect the lives of our children? With trained people carrying firearms. Whether it be teachers, volunteers, or paid professionals, the answer seems clear.

It's not that hard of a problem to solve, really.

Posted by: Marmo at December 22, 2012 05:49 AM (pcgW1)

18 Lady in Black, It was Nightline featuring Mike Bloomberg. On phone so copy/paste aint gonna happen. Sorry.

Posted by: eman at December 22, 2012 05:51 AM (EWsrI)

19 Protecting yourself with a gun is a civil right. And children up to the age of 26 can borrow their parents' extra guns.

Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 22, 2012 05:51 AM (7M6OD)

20 There has never been any cogent logic with the gun grabbers. The places with the strictest gun laws have the most crime. Places with the fewest laws have less crime.

Posted by: Vic at December 22, 2012 05:52 AM (53z96)

21
So how should we protect the lives of our children?

You put up a sign that says Gun Free Zone.

Posted by: The Liberals at December 22, 2012 05:54 AM (69Mdf)

22 And I still say any time someone in the MFM like ABC starts hawking gun control we should tell them if they want to treat the second amendment that way, why not the 1st amendment treated the same way.

The last election proved that the MFM is more dangerous than guns.

Posted by: Vic at December 22, 2012 05:54 AM (53z96)

23 It is all about never letting a crisis go to waste. It is not about saving lives. It is about gaining control of the citizenry. You can never satiate a control-freak.

Posted by: eman at December 22, 2012 05:55 AM (EWsrI)

24 @17 This. Unless and until we can find a way to take pre-emptive action. Personally, I like open season on drug dealers for a start. It might even keep the heads of other bad actors down while were at it. Take a nutcase. Add illegal drugs. Better, or worse?

Posted by: Thorvald at December 22, 2012 05:58 AM (1V6Pv)

25 Since 1950, every mass-murder-shooting (defined as 3 or more victims), except for one, has occurred in a 'gun-free' zone!

Posted by: vdanifu at December 22, 2012 05:59 AM (yaW77)

I don't think the "conversation" is going to turn out the way the anti-gun people think it's going to. Case in point: my brother went to a local gun shop to buy some ammo for one of his boom sticks. Parking lot full and the shop was sold out of AR-15 rifles and magazine; also sold out of .223 ammo. Other guns were flying off the shelves. These people aren't buying this stuff to just spend money before Christmas.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at December 22, 2012 06:00 AM (nYHk7)

27 http://tinyurl.com/crvj9cl ........................................................ Link above to a TX town that has teachers carrying concealed weapons to help protect the students. In case y'all haven't seen this article

Posted by: John Stark of the NH Starks at December 22, 2012 06:01 AM (0JB89)

28 8 >> H/T to Prof Reynolds at instapundit

*cough* sidebar *cough*

I fixed that. Thanks Andy. Too much eggnog has made my eyesight wobbly

Posted by: dri at December 22, 2012 06:02 AM (dHKAh)

29 Libtards never get the connection with the piece meal degradation of the Constitution and their ability to be libtards.

Posted by: torabora at December 22, 2012 06:02 AM (gC9yv)

30 For the record, the MSM doesn't like the First Amendment. They would be deliriously happy to work for a state news agency. Look at PBS or BBC. Those agencies get to be as Left-wing as they like, with no profit motive.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 22, 2012 06:02 AM (25Udx)

31 As I was saying elsewhere, these guys aren't completely crazy. They may plan to die or get killed, but after they carry enough of the plan to take people with them. None of them, I guarantee you, plans to get killed right at the beginning.

Posted by: Rich Fader at December 22, 2012 06:03 AM (qcNh7)

32 Facts? We don't need no stinking facts.

Posted by: Libtard at December 22, 2012 06:04 AM (uBVzH)

33 RA member and proud of it but c'mon Wayne... video games? And a whole new school bureaucracy? End "gun-free" zones and permit concealed carry by qualified adults and you've got what we need.

Posted by: DaMav at December 22, 2012 09:46 AM (rT08W)

The NRA walked right into a trap on that one.

They just killed their argument with anyone under the age of 30. Already Video Gamers are... I can't avoid the pun....up in arms.

And what are people like me (who get ammo and video games for Christmas) supposed to do? It's like I'm being forced to choose sides. Thanks NRA!

But perhaps more importantly, they just handed the liberal PC crowd everything they possibly could have wanted. Expect chorases of "Even the NRA thinks we need to ban violent video games" to start becoming the new norm.

Posted by: tsrblke at December 22, 2012 06:04 AM (GaqMa)

34 So how should we protect the lives of our children?
You put up a sign that says Gun Free Zone.

Damn!

Posted by: Lunatic with an arsenal intent on shooting up a school at December 22, 2012 06:05 AM (6TB1Z)

35
Travesty of Justice; Limits on President's Detention Powers Strpped from Final Defense BillÂ“

The amendment from Sens. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) and Mike Lee (R-Utah) to block the presidentÂ’s broad power to hold American citizens without trial was stripped from the final defense authorization bill in conference, prompting a Â‘noÂ’ vote on the entire bill from Lee and Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.). . . . In a speech on the Senate floor, Paul called the exclusion of the provision Â‘so fundamentally wrong and goes against everything we stand for as a country that it canÂ’t go unnoticed and should be pointed out

@Instapundit

Posted by: ette at December 22, 2012 06:05 AM (nqBYe)

36 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZb8EXUrQTo

Posted by: Butters at December 22, 2012 06:05 AM (NIZHJ)

37 sorry to go OT so early.

Posted by: ette at December 22, 2012 06:06 AM (nqBYe)

38 21 So how should we protect the lives of our children? You put up a sign that says Gun Free Zone. Posted by: The Liberals _ _ _ _ __ I was thinking of taunting ilberals on Fbook and Twitt, not by coming out and fighting against them, but playing to their guilty side. posting something like, ------------------------------ "If you really stand for gun control, then do something about it, show your support for everyone that's been killed by weapons by putting a "gun free zone" sign on your front lawn" if you don't do this you are a coward and don't really believe in gun control" ------------------------------ but I don't want more people getting killed or robbed so I haven't done this.

Posted by: John Stark Dark of the NH Starks at December 22, 2012 06:06 AM (0JB89)

39 The State-run media should become a gun free zone, for the children.

Posted by: Butters at December 22, 2012 06:08 AM (NIZHJ)

40 It is a good well written article and analysis. The best parts are the statistics he gives. And yet libs will just ignore these compelling facts because "do something".

PS - the piece has been mentioned on AoS 3 or 4 main posts, so Quintuple Post! New record.

I apologize for the repost. I had not seen it posted or mentioned previously. Late night hobo poaching has interfered with my attention to detail recently.

Posted by: dri at December 22, 2012 06:09 AM (dHKAh)

41 So last Thursday, I decide to go out for a beer after swim practice. I'm the lone conservative type sitting with the coach (Who is a teacher) and two Englishmen. Eventually the conversation goes to CT and one of the Brits expresses hope for "a conversation on gun control."

Now, the talk around the table had been civil and we were going to keep it that way. I pointed out the number of laws already on the books, the ones that the shooter violated and how every time there is a massacre, more laws are demanded. I even pointed out how as a former Marine, I know how to put holes in people using the kind of ammunition that folks can buy over the shelves.

His response: "The problem is that you are using facts and logic for your argument while on the emotional side, we can point to twenty dead children."

Some folks you just can't reach.

Posted by: NR Pax at December 22, 2012 06:11 AM (QkEg0)

42 "5 I'm glad that Larry's essay is getting this much attention. The few liberals that show up and attempt to refute everything he posted are getting beaten like pinatas.

Posted by: NR Pax at December 22, 2012 09:31 AM (QkEg0)"

Yet I would bet my bottom dollar that those liberals STILL think they "won", since their standard of argumentation appears to be the syllogism:

Liberals are smarter than conservatives

The argument I am making is a liberal argument

Therefore, the conservative argument is wrong and mine is right

It's everywhere these days.

Posted by: BS Inc. at December 22, 2012 06:11 AM (eP0u9)

43 Did I miss anyone stomping their own thread yet?

Posted by: Butters at December 22, 2012 06:11 AM (NIZHJ)

44 PS - the piece has been mentioned on AoS 3 or 4 main posts, so Quintuple Post! New record. I apologize for the repost. I had not seen it posted or mentioned previously. Late night hobo poaching has interfered with my attention to detail recently. Posted by: dri at December 22, 2012 1 _______ Thanks for reposting. I am lurking here a lot more than I post, and I had not seen it. So thanks!

Posted by: John Stark Dark of the NH Starks at December 22, 2012 06:13 AM (0JB89)

45 The underlying problem with this national "discussion" is that it is not a discussion and never will be.

The bodies simply don't matter unless they are politically advantageous. The horrific blood bath which is Chicago goes on without a Hollywood or Washington whimper. The weekend that violent would be gang banger in Florida was righteously capped, 40 people were shot in Chicago and 10 died.

Did any of the parents get an all expense paid vacation to be used as props by the left?

Not a chance.

Posted by: george at December 22, 2012 06:13 AM (qBLA2)

46 His response: "The problem is that you are using facts and logic for your argument while on the emotional side, we can point to twenty dead children."

Some folks you just can't reach.

Posted by: NR Pax at December 22, 2012 10:11 AM (QkEg0)

There's an honesty there though that I'd think we'd be remiss if we just sideskirt.

They're going to use emotion, and in today's world emotion seems to counter logic. We'd be stupid to just say "what emotional idiots!" We need to counter emotion with emotion.

Posted by: tsrblke at December 22, 2012 06:14 AM (GaqMa)

47 Sickening: http://www.tsn.ca/shows/otr/ Off The Record: Dwayne Casey video, goto 5:56 mark. Dwane Casey (born April 17, 1957) is a former NCAA basketball player and coach... And, he has all the talking points about gun control from ESPN. /puke

Posted by: beach weekender at December 22, 2012 06:15 AM (LpQbZ)

48 Facts? We don't need no steenkin' facts!

The libs have this new web campaign - DemanAPlan.Com - that shows hoiw fucking stupid they are.

But here's the problem.. it will likely work. All over America, mothers who are a helluva more concerned about the safety of their kids are thing "something" MUST be done.

Those mothers don't give a shit that the founders guaranteed your right to armor piercing bullets. And they don't really give a shit that you think it is your Constitutional right to have high-capacity magazines when then is no apparent real-world need.

So, yeah.. that campaign will work. But the restrictions will be symbolic, because we know magazine sizes are not what is killing people.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 22, 2012 06:15 AM (UTq/I)

49 For those Morons in NYC or nearby, if you haven't seen this, a pro weapon site for NYC, NYC Guns. (you know of the resistance against B100mberg?) ........... http://tinyurl.com/6pyb9pp

Posted by: John Stark Dark of the NH Starks at December 22, 2012 06:15 AM (0JB89)

50 Can I pose a question that has itched my brain for as long as I have been arguing w/libs about gun control: So, we ban all guns. Today. All of them. No new manufacture. No new sales of any gun. How many are already out there? I know how many I have. And it's a lot, by libtard standards, a puny collection by the standards of the gun guys I know. My point is there are a lot of fucking guns out there. A. Lot. If there is a mandatory buy back, are criminals going to comply? F-no. Are YOU going to comply? I know my answer. The sheer physical enormity of the hardware already in circulation makes the entire f'ng gun control argument simply retarded. And punitive. And unconstitutional, not that that bears on public policy anymore.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 22, 2012 06:18 AM (Aitxy)

51 The drop out in chief said AK's belong in the hands of soldiers.

Posted by: Butters at December 22, 2012 06:21 AM (NIZHJ)

52 Posted by: Brave Sir Robin
.........
I read somewhere recently there are 300 Million guns in circulation in the US. Although facts are hard to come by these days.. even half that is one helluva lot of guns.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 22, 2012 06:22 AM (UTq/I)

53 52 Most of those have been lost in tragic boating accidents.

Posted by: Butters at December 22, 2012 06:23 AM (NIZHJ)

54 Yet I would bet my bottom dollar that those liberals STILL think they "won",
Posted by: BS Inc. at December 22, 2012 10:11 AM (eP0u9)

If you have the time, read the comments. There was one liberal who dismissed him by saying that his credentials were why his thoughts on the topic were invalid.

We'd be stupid to just say "what emotional idiots!" We need to counter emotion with emotion.
Posted by: tsrblke at December 22, 2012 10:14 AM (GaqMa)

Does laughing contemptuously count?

Posted by: NR Pax at December 22, 2012 06:25 AM (QkEg0)

55 52 Posted by: Brave Sir Robin ......... I read somewhere recently there are 300 Million guns in circulation in the US. Although facts are hard to come by these days.. even half that is one helluva lot of guns. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 22, 2012 _______ Yes. I've seen this statistic before....That estimate in my mind must be too low. I know a lot of people with arsenals of at least 2 dozen guns. The Japanese were wise not to invade. Even if only 10% of Americans own guns if the average is just 10 guns each that puts you at 300M. And I've heard there are 60M hunters in the US. Not sure if that is accurate. ........ I'm guessing gun ownership in TX exceeds 300M items.

Posted by: John Stark Dark of the NH Starks at December 22, 2012 06:26 AM (0JB89)

56 On the topic of the 300 million + guns out there in private hands: Why is it that liberals screech about how we can't deport 12 million illegals but they think removing over ten times that number of guns is possible?

Posted by: NR Pax at December 22, 2012 06:26 AM (QkEg0)

57 A note of levity regarding the gun control question, "one hand or both hands": really, it comes down to practice. Practice is key with any weapon. http://preview.tinyurl.com/d5m4uz7

Posted by: Thorvald at December 22, 2012 06:26 AM (1V6Pv)

58 That right there is a great article. Always good to learn something.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 22, 2012 06:30 AM (uhAkr)

59 A note of levity regarding the gun control question, "one hand or both hands": really, it comes down to practice. Practice is key with any weapon. http://preview.tinyurl.com/d5m4uz7 Posted by: Thorvald at December 22, 2012 10:26 AM (1V6Pv) Mornin rons. Yep, train train train. If you are not willing to get professional training and spend enugh time with your weapon to make it as familiar to you as your lover. You may want to leave it alone.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 22, 2012 06:30 AM (3Y7RV)

60 When some Lib asks me why I need an AR-15 I simply reply 'in case'. They scoff like they always do that the 'in case' will never happen or that LE should handle those scenarios. Once again most Libs have to be mugged by reality before they see your point and it's impossible to reach them otherwise.

Posted by: polynikes at December 22, 2012 06:37 AM (YF3fb)

After arguing with someone on this issue, I spent several hours doing research on why America's murder rate is higher. The truth is, it isn't.

England, Germany, Japan, etc. all have less than 1 to about 1.5 murders per 100,000. The US has about 4. That's not much of a difference when you consider that Mexico, Brazil, and many of the South American countries have 15-20. Our demographics are closer to Brazil, while our murder rate is much, much closer to England. If you look at a murder rate map of the Americas and stop comparing us to monocultures like Japan and Sweden, we look remarkably safe.

Posted by: JustLikeDavidHasselhoff at December 22, 2012 06:39 AM (Rwrs+)

62 On the topic of the 300 million + guns out there in private hands: Why is it that liberals screech about how we can't deport 12 million illegals but they think removing over ten times that number of guns is possible?

Excellent point. Not to mention their inability to find out what happened in a a US embassy after several months, or where those pesky Whitewater papers were, or where Joe Biden left his etch a sketch.

Posted by: pep at December 22, 2012 06:41 AM (6TB1Z)

63 I blame video games. And yeah let's all just accept what we are and realize that the killings will go on.

Posted by: occam at December 22, 2012 06:42 AM (bNPll)

64 They scoff like they always do that the 'in case' will never happen or that LE should handle those scenarios.

Rodney King riots. That was big enough, and enough people were killed, that it can't be wished away.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 22, 2012 06:43 AM (xpgUt)

65
Both assault weapons and Caterpillar D-9's are dangerous in the hands of lunatic conservatives.

Posted by: Zombie Rachel Corrie at December 22, 2012 06:44 AM (ndqJC)

66 Every conversation I've had with a Lib about guns involves them saying something horrific like "Everyone at FOX News should be killed!", and then they spend the next half hour trying to "clarify", or lecturing that I "misunderstood", condescendingly saying that I just don't "get it". It usually ends with me calling them evil, and them calling me stupid, and don't have dealings with them anymore, which is fine. The frustrating thing is when I tell mutual friends/family, they say things like "Oh, they couldn't have said that." One would think that calls for mass murder would be off-limits, but apparently not.

Posted by: brando at December 22, 2012 06:44 AM (qQEcv)

67 14 Why not inject race into it? The only time libs get excited are when whites are perpetrators and victims. Because they're racist.

The Beltway Sniper was a HUGE story until we found out who he was.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 22, 2012 09:48 AM (v2S39)

Yep, lived through fun times. The perps were supposedly "white angry males". Driving around in a Chevy Astro Minivan. Yeah how'd that work out?

Posted by: Jim Scrummy at December 22, 2012 06:46 AM (Vu3LY)

68 Every conversation I've had with a Lib about guns involves them saying something horrific like "Everyone at FOX News should be killed!", and then they spend the next half hour trying to "clarify", or lecturing that I "misunderstood", condescendingly saying that I just don't "get it". It usually ends with me calling them evil, and them calling me stupid, and don't have dealings with them anymore, which is fine. The frustrating thing is when I tell mutual friends/family, they say things like "Oh, they couldn't have said that." One would think that calls for mass murder would be off-limits, but apparently not. Posted by: brando at December 22, 2012 10:44 AM (qQEcv) It's after conversations such as that, that physical violence becomes understandable and downright justifiable.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 22, 2012 06:46 AM (79ueO)

69 If all guns were replaced by, say, walkie talkies, then the world would be much better off.

Posted by: Steven Spielberg at December 22, 2012 06:48 AM (nyG2S)

70 Whenever a woman Lib asks "Why do you need guns?", I ask "Why do women even need to vote?". The look on their face is priceless.

Posted by: brando at December 22, 2012 06:49 AM (qQEcv)

71 I read Correia's article earlier this morning. It's outstanding, and I bookmarked it.

Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2012 06:50 AM (sdi6R)

72 The Beltway Sniper was a HUGE story until we found out who he was. And of course, Nidal Hussein, last seen bearded.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 22, 2012 06:51 AM (uhAkr)

73 At my libtard Christmas party last night, they were laughing at the someone on the news idea of a school with guns in a lock box, that a teacher would have to open with a combination. "Oh my what was that code again?" Much laughter ensued as they thought that how ludicrous that sounded. Again, I was under strict orders, so did not mention that the teacher would be carrying a weapon. A gun unloaded and locked up in the office 100 yards away is not much good in this kind of situation.

Posted by: Bruce at December 22, 2012 06:51 AM (d6+Gd)

74 Posted by: polynikes at December 22, 2012 10:37 AM (YF3fb)

I had a fight with our host last night.

She asked me why I wanted an automatic weapon (after screeching that the NRA should all be killed...whatever that means).

The concept of an an immutable right seems alien to the libs and the fools (she is the latter).

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 22, 2012 06:53 AM (GsoHv)

75 10 Guy Mohawk PS - the piece has been mentioned on AoS 3 or 4 main posts, so Quintuple Post! New record. I almost linked it in my comment #146 in the morning thread, before I saw this one.

Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2012 06:53 AM (sdi6R)

76 70...so stealing that!

Posted by: billygoat at December 22, 2012 06:55 AM (RLkAE)

77 RE: 73
The teacher could have one of those quick open combination bedside safes in a drawer. It would be too slow for the teacher in the room with the shooter, but not too slow for the teacher that hears gunfire starting elsewhere in the school. It would still keep the guns safe from snatchy teenagers, or whatever.

Posted by: JustLikeDavidHasselhoff at December 22, 2012 06:55 AM (Rwrs+)

78 Thinking outside the box in the case of knuckle heads that want to kill school kids.

School bus packed with little ones headed down the road. It MUST stop at the RR crossing and open up the door so the driver can see out and listen for trains. A knuckle head standing by the tracks with a knife. Driver down. Little ones unable to fight back. Most can't operate the back emergency door. Now what?

Posted by: Bruce at December 22, 2012 06:55 AM (d6+Gd)

79 Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 22, 2012 10:46 AM (79ueO)

My wife's best friend, and her husband is a great guy and a fantastic cook. It would put a strain on many things (like having sex again before I turn 90).

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 22, 2012 06:55 AM (GsoHv)

80 3 German Mausers,
2 stick grenades,
and a bayonet in a treeeeeee.

Posted by: Bayonets on my Christmas Tree at December 22, 2012 06:55 AM (EYx1k)

81
Fighting with emotion I could say: " I can point to a whole church full of LIVING children in Colo. Spgs. whose parents get to enjoy Christmas with them because an armed lady security guard put a murderous dog down just as he entered the church.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 22, 2012 06:56 AM (69Mdf)

82 77
Exactly. The problem is, the libs can only think of another obstacle to prevent any and all cases of stupid. When you defeat all of their ideas with common sense solutions, they get pissed. They prefer half ass measures that an intelligent chimp can defeat. Cause it make them feel better.

Posted by: Bruce at December 22, 2012 06:59 AM (d6+Gd)

83 Also, for a fun read his MHI books are pretty interesting.

Posted by: RWC at December 22, 2012 07:01 AM (sqp6o)

84 http://www.e-manonline.com/blog.php?entry_id=12961

Non-actionable, protected "opinion"? I don't think so.

Suing him and any publication in which this garbage appeared today back to the Stone Age and beyond, for defamation of the ugliest sort?

Yeah, I could see that.

Posted by: Everyman at December 22, 2012 07:01 AM (UlO1I)

85 Rodney King riots. That was big enough, and enough people were killed, that it can't be wished away. Posted by: @PurpAv at December 22, 2012 10:43 AM (xpgUt) When they pulled that truck driver from his rig and damn near killed him, live and they did it while dancing and with such glee. A little bit of me died that day. The part that felt compassion and concearn for the inner city yutes. Some would say I became a racist although animals like that come in all colors. In a just world they would have been mowed down like dogs by the National Gaurd.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 22, 2012 07:02 AM (3Y7RV)

86 Damn, I guess I should read some of the comments. Ditto what Shawn said.

Posted by: RWC at December 22, 2012 07:02 AM (sqp6o)

87 This post needs a photo of Sheriff Joe Biden sporting a shotgun.

Posted by: Fritz at December 22, 2012 07:02 AM (w3+gB)

I've gotten some traction in the firearms debate when I mention that the Supreme Court has weighed in and decided that government has no duty to protect you.

That seems to come as a surprise to many.

Posted by: Invictus at December 22, 2012 07:05 AM (OQpzc)

89 Gun Control: A Discu... Da!!

Posted by: Stalin at December 22, 2012 07:08 AM (SSWdi)

90 When they pulled that truck driver from his rig and damn near killed him

He survived, barely. 50 or 60 others didn't...but there was no video of their killings...its like they never happened.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 22, 2012 07:08 AM (xpgUt)

91 the Supreme Court has weighed in and decided that government has no duty to protect you.

That seems to come as a surprise to many.

Graveyards are brimming with women who had "restraining orders", and people who called 911 and were dead by the time the cops got there.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 22, 2012 07:12 AM (xpgUt)

92 ~ tap tap tap tap tap ~ ... yes you are correct Hadji is glad to see you, but Hadji also happen to have a Sig Sauer in his pocket. With a silencer, if you get Hadji's drift, and I am assured that you do... What? This microphone, it is on? Yes? Oh. And so. Hello Ladies and Gentlemen, Hadji is in the House. As Hadji walked into the club, a sign said 'No Shirt, No Gun, No Service" Hadji is not sure if that is to mean you must have a gun to get service or if you must not have a gun to get service. Hadji? He is of the world. You would have to pry my 9MM hand pistol from the fingers of the person Hadji shot as that person tried to Hadji's guns. If it is an infidel's fingers, so much towards better. But, seriously, we have an expression in the lands you occupy - 'He who has the gun chooses the camel." And who among us is not preferring to choose which camel he has. Am I right, or am I right? Hadji is right. So, judging from the sounds made from the darkness at least five of you have chambered a round and eight of you have flicked the safety to the off position. And, if Hadji is not mistaken, at least one person has a pump action shotgun. America. Based on the size of it and that Jews are everywhere and women are to drive, it is the safest country in the world. And that is not of a joke. Remember, try the veal, and that you should see the doctor about the trigger finger if it is itchy. Tip the waitresses. They know which cup into which to put the poison. ~

Posted by: Hadji the Muslim Comic at December 22, 2012 07:12 AM (RuUvx)

93 "If you have the time, read the comments. There was one liberal who dismissed him by saying that his credentials were why his thoughts on the topic were invalid.

Posted by: NR Pax at December 22, 2012 10:25 AM (QkEg0)"

Good old liberals. Use whatever rhetorical argument they need at the time, regardless of its consistency.

Posted by: polynikes at December 22, 2012 10:37 AM (YF3fb)"

In the risk management business, you plan for the worst-case scenario, not the best-case.

Posted by: BS Inc. at December 22, 2012 07:12 AM (eP0u9)

94 I was watching footage of the 92 riots yesterday. There was one where a newswoman was caught in a gunfight between the savages and the Koreans. Also, eight looters trapped in a business with a fire creeping up. People were frantically trying to bust the door open andd getmthem out. My thought was - why?

Posted by: RWC at December 22, 2012 07:13 AM (sqp6o)

95 They prefer half ass measures that an intelligent chimp can defeat. Cause it make them feel better.

Don't sell us short!

Posted by: Dim-witted chimps at December 22, 2012 07:15 AM (6TB1Z)

96 A "good" urban 911 response time is 5 minutes. A "good" rural 911 response time can be 30 minutes...or more. Add in a bad winter storm in the mountains and it could be days.

How much dying can you do in 5 minutes?

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 22, 2012 07:16 AM (xpgUt)

97 AndmGoreTV was runng 'Bowling for Columbine' endlessly. Almost like they were making it political.

Posted by: RWC at December 22, 2012 07:20 AM (sqp6o)

98 How much dying can you do in 5 minutes?

And according to the article, the 1st person on the scene is going to wait on a backup. So now you might be looking at 7 to 10 minutes. Then the time it takes to figure out what the heck is going on....tick tick tick.

Posted by: Bruce at December 22, 2012 07:21 AM (d6+Gd)

99 AndmGoreTV was runng 'Bowling for Columbine' endlessly. Almost like they were making it political. Posted by: RWC at December 22, 2012 11:20 AM (sqp6o) While he stood safely nestled between armed gaurds.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 22, 2012 07:21 AM (3Y7RV)

100 I'm going to have to get rid of another Facebook "friend" which actually makes me a bit sad since I do like him as a person. He's an Aussie and has been on a vehemently anti-gun rail since last week, and his commenters on his posts are just as bad if not worse (hey I love being called names like mentally ill because I believe in owning guns).

I just can't take any more and he's completely unreasonable and irrational.

Posted by: DangerGirl at December 22, 2012 07:21 AM (GrtrJ)

101 This post needs a photo of Sheriff Joe Biden sporting a shotgun.

Would you want to be the photographer?

Posted by: fluffy at December 22, 2012 07:21 AM (z9HTb)

102 How much dying can you do in 5 minutes? Just one.

Posted by: s☺mej☼e at December 22, 2012 07:22 AM (SSWdi)

103 Second time I've seen an ad for Bowling for Columbine. On Fox.

Posted by: Fox2! at December 22, 2012 07:22 AM (1Qpmy)

104 This gun control debate should begin and end in twenty minutes.

Posted by: Jean at December 22, 2012 07:23 AM (s6w17)

105 How much dying can you do in 5 minutes? nein!

Posted by: German cat at December 22, 2012 07:24 AM (SSWdi)

106 I know. But neun is just not funneh.

Posted by: German cat at December 22, 2012 07:26 AM (SSWdi)

107 We need a moron Appleseed meet-up

Posted by: Jean at December 22, 2012 07:30 AM (s6w17)

108 danger girl maybe just put him on ignore? so you don't see his posts....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at December 22, 2012 07:30 AM (GVxQo)

109 5 M1 Garands!
4 Steel pots
3 German Mausers
2 stick grenades
and a bayonet in a treeeeee.

Posted by: Bayonets on my Christmas Tree at December 22, 2012 07:31 AM (EYx1k)

110 I read Larry's article. This is my response:

Adam Lanza finally stopped when he was confronted by an armed cop, and he shot himself. See how that works?

Mentally ill and criminally insane moonbats have more rights than sane people who make the logical choice to do what is necessary to protect their homes, family, and lives. I own a firearm and I guaran-goddamn-tee you that if anyone breaks into my home, they will leave in a body bag.

Ironically, some have called for arming school personnel in response to what happened in Connecticut. Gee, wonÂ’t that involve guns?

Bottom line: Armed criminals and loonies deliberately choose soft, unarmed targets. They couldnÂ’t give one shit less about the idea of restrictive gun laws. Every law-abiding American citizen has the right to defend themselves from low life thugs and deranged psychos like Lanza, in spite of the LeftÂ’s fatuous politicizing.

"pass a law outlawing the manufacture or sale of guns and ammo"? Yeah, you're a real fucking genius, Larry. The current regime in DC would love to control guns the way it does healthcare. I prefer to have the option of getting the ammo and guns I need, if only to protect myself from our own government. But, you go right on ahead and kowtow to the whims of an out of control Fed. Just don't expect the rest of us to follow suit.
"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government"--- George Washington

Posted by: SFC MAC at December 22, 2012 07:32 AM (TLbgU)

111 From the "I am going to bag my head on the table for the next 15 minutes" file....

Two lib couples I know. Very liberal in all aspect of the world. Except when it comes to guns. Both the guys went out and bout an AR-15 thinking as everyone else does that their days are numbered and were bitching about how it sucks that guns are being blamed, etc. So I tweeted both of them and said "I told you so" referring to Obama. They both write back something like "we knew about Obama and his gun views and if it means we have to give up some gun rights in order to make the country better overall so be it".

How do you have an intelligent debate with people like this?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 22, 2012 07:33 AM (HDgX3)

112 When they pulled that truck driver from his rig and damn near killed him, live and they did it while dancing and with such glee. A little bit of me died that day. The part that felt compassion and concearn for the inner city yutes. Some would say I became a racist although animals like that come in all colors. In a just world they would have been mowed down like dogs by the National Gaurd. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 22, 2012 11:02 AM

The thing that was most scary? The "media" actually fucked up and and played the FULL clip of that scene once....ONCE, and was never shown again.

The scene I'm talking about was the long blond hair dude they pulled from the tanker truck. What they showed once, and never showed again, was after the dude was beat up and was kind of laying under the floor board of the cab, some fucking scumbag walked up with a shotgun, pumped it, held it out to almost point blank range with one hand and fired, pumped it again, and fired again, then did some dance like he was in the mother fucking end zone of a football field after scoring a touchdown.

I had a room full of people at the house, and they ALL saw that. Half wanted to go get guns and head for the nearest city where shit was going on. The media knowing damn well that that clip was all that was needed to start a fucking race war never showed that clip again. It was buried never to be seen again. I saw it, the whole house saw it. That scene was so brutal it completely changed my attitude about a lot of things.

Posted by: Berserker at December 22, 2012 07:35 AM (FMbng)

113 Reginald Denny.

Posted by: Bayonets on my Christmas Tree at December 22, 2012 07:37 AM (EYx1k)

114 So I tweeted both of them and said "I told you so" referring to Obama. They both write back something like "we knew about Obama and his gun views and if it means we have to give up some gun rights in order to make the country better overall so be it". How do you have an intelligent debate with people like this? Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December .......... You could tweet back: I think the German people said something similar in 1933. .......... The Chinese a few years later... ....... etc.

Posted by: John Stark Dark of the NH Starks at December 22, 2012 07:37 AM (0JB89)

115 That was already linked here. One point he got wrong - confiscation can happen and your guns can be taken away - he mentions Australia briefly, but strangely, to argue that guns can never be seized.

Posted by: Gerry at December 22, 2012 07:37 AM (GmBJN)

116

>>The Beltway Sniper was a HUGE story until we found out who he was.

17 million stories on the militia movement and how evil white males are after Oklahoma City.

After those dudes were arrested...

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 22, 2012 07:39 AM (SUKHu)

117 That was already linked here. One point he got wrong - confiscation can happen and your guns can be taken away - he mentions Australia briefly, but strangely, to argue that guns can never be seized. Posted by: Gerry at December 22, 2012 11:37 AM (GmBJN) I think there was only 6% gun ownership in Australia. It wasn't a huge undertaking. Taking guns from Americans? Another story altogether.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 22, 2012 07:40 AM (3Y7RV)

118 Mr Moo Moo - you can't have an intelligent debate with people like that.

But, playing the devil's advocate for a minute, let me summarize what a lot of people in the middle feel.

Gun owners and morons and other Constitutionalists look at this ideologically. One tiny restriction is a "slippery slope" to eventual gun confiscation.

Many people in middle America do not believe restricting magazine sizes, etc. is a big deal at all. They also feel certain types of military-style rifles are best left in the hands of the military. They also feel we need better registration and tracking - they have no idea the national tracking system is already in place.

Bottom line - we will get some new gun laws, ineffective and symbolic as they may be.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 22, 2012 07:41 AM (UTq/I)

119 maybe just put him on ignore? so you don't see his posts....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at December 22, 2012 11:30 AM (GVxQo)

Yeah, I think that's what I'm going to have to do. Thanks phoenixgirl.

Posted by: DangerGirl at December 22, 2012 07:41 AM (GrtrJ)

120 OT: 12 Posts of Christmas, Day 10 Now that weÂ’ve all survived the Mayan apocalypse, here are two beautiful versions of Carol of the Bells http://politicalhat.com/?p=854

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 22, 2012 07:41 AM (sZTYJ)

121 You could tweet back:
I think the German people said something similar in 1933.
..........
The Chinese a few years later...
.......
etc.

Posted by: John Stark Dark of the NH Starks at December 22, 2012 11:37 AM (0JB89)

____________________

Godwin dude, Godwin.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 22, 2012 07:43 AM (HDgX3)

122 Larry Correia's piece is magnificent, except for some typos. I hope it influences the debate a lot.

Posted by: The Lightworker at December 22, 2012 07:43 AM (e0KhL)

123 Those folks who desire to ban decent honest folks from owning assault weapons ought to try a couple sessions of any online shooter game (like Call of Duty) where you can choose your weapons and play against others -- except limit your team's weapon choice to peashooters (simple revolver).

Good luck on you and your team surviving more than a few seconds... Keep in mind, many of the current video games are reasonably realistic. In other words, banning law abiding citizens from owning assault weapons isn't going to stop the possession and use of these weapons illegally -- it's just going to put honest folks at higher risk of being unable to protect themselves.

As Israel has discovered thru experience, the front line of protection against thugs and nutjobs brandishing assault weapons is NEVER going to be police or regulations. The front line of defence against thugs and nutjobs is (or should be) honest law abiding citizens who are willing to carry a weapon to protect themselves as well as others in their vicinity -- a well regulated militia, if you will.

Seems there is something I once read about a well regulated militia having the right to bear arms... Now where was that?

Posted by: Seipherd at December 22, 2012 07:43 AM (BoLlc)

124 taking up a cause is a symptom of mental illness a lot of so-called progressives suffer from this type of mental illness anti-gun, anti-oil, anti-war, global warming -- all issues taken up to make one feel like a "good person" fighting evil. Code Pinkers are all mentally deranged people. All of them. They use gun violence and wars as an excuse to acto out for their own benefit. In short, it makes them feel good.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 22, 2012 07:43 AM (GEHBn)

125

Larry's article should be required reading for every politician. However, we know that won't happen, as they have no interest in decreasing their power over us proles.

Which is precisely the reason why the 2nd Amendment was put in our Constitution.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 22, 2012 07:44 AM (yiIja)

126 I actually got pulled over during the Beltway Sniper...because that genius/dumbass Chief Moose swore it was two white guys in a white van.

Posted by: RWC at December 22, 2012 07:44 AM (sqp6o)

127 I actually got pulled over during the Beltway Sniper...because that genius/dumbass Chief Moose swore it was two white guys in a white van. Posted by: RWC at December 22, 2012 11:44 AM (sqp6o) Isn't that called profiling? Oh wait, that's only for people of color.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 22, 2012 07:46 AM (3Y7RV)

128 Ann Coulter's piece is irresponsible and over the top. It is always wrong for conservatives to push back, and it is particularly outrageous at this sensitive time, when we should all be making concessions, except for liberals, who should be demanding concessions and damning us. I weep, I weep for the wickedness of this woman.

Posted by: John Boehner at December 22, 2012 07:46 AM (e0KhL)

129 in other words, being anti-gun makes losers feel like heroes in truth, they are very unhappy self-loathing people who can only feel good about their miserable selves when they demonize others

Posted by: soothsayer at December 22, 2012 07:47 AM (GEHBn)

130 Posted by: John Boehner at December 22, 2012 11:46 AM (e0KhL) Fuck. You.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 22, 2012 07:47 AM (GEICT)

131 14 Why not inject race into it? The only time libs get excited are when whites are perpetrators and victims. Because they're racist. - Because they're anti-White. "Racist" is their word, and they can (and do) redefine it as needed so that they are never guilty but the Whites they hate are.

Posted by: The Lightworker at December 22, 2012 07:49 AM (e0KhL)

132 Posted by: John Boehner at December 22, 2012 11:46 AM (e0KhL) I thought stick woman did a great job John. I hope the thinkers in congress drop kick you through the goalposts of irrelevance.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 22, 2012 07:49 AM (3Y7RV)

133 in other words, being anti-gun makes losers feel like heroes in truth, they are very unhappy self-loathing people who can only feel good about their miserable selves when they CONTROL others. FIFY

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 22, 2012 07:50 AM (3Y7RV)

134

in other words, being anti-gun makes losers feel like heroes

in truth, they are very unhappy self-loathing people who can only feel good about their miserable selves when they demonize others

Also, they don't recognize that there are, unlike them, responsible people in the world who can safely operate a weapon and use it for good purposes.

Theirs is a psychological projection that makes everyone else as big a failures as they are.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 22, 2012 07:52 AM (yiIja)

135 It can only influence the debate if the Preregressives read it. which they won't.

They've already decided, the science is settled.

Has ANYONE, ANYTIME, ANYWHERE heard a progressive liberal take back some proven inane and/or stupid progressive ideal after having proclaimed it the only solution?

That's what I thought.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka 3 tooth) at December 22, 2012 07:52 AM (3E2th)

136

Do not forget to send a message to the F**KNEN ACLU for their part in labelling the punk kid shooter as a protected class person/not whack job/uninstitutionalized.

I am pissed.

Posted by: JimboHoffa at December 22, 2012 07:53 AM (dAfqy)

137 Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 22, 2012 11:46 AM (3Y7RV I blame the Palestinian that was with me. Actually Peruvian/palestinian who hated the actual 'Palestinians.'

Posted by: RWC at December 22, 2012 07:53 AM (sqp6o)

138 it's funny how the progressives (heh) believe themselves to be enlightened intellectuals and yet they believe guns create monsters no more guns, no more monsters is their logical conclusion

Posted by: soothsayer at December 22, 2012 07:54 AM (GEHBn)

139 112 The thing that was most scary? The "media" actually fucked up and and played the FULL clip of that scene once....ONCE, and was never shown again. - They absolutely do have an agenda, pushing whatever will build anti-White hostility, and suppressing whatever might get White to defend their interests.

Posted by: The Lightworker at December 22, 2012 07:54 AM (e0KhL)

140

*Hops off the soapbox*

Outstanding piece.

Posted by: JimboHoffa at December 22, 2012 07:55 AM (dAfqy)

141 Soothsayer, sheep bleat when scared, but they rarely do anything smart

Posted by: Jean at December 22, 2012 07:55 AM (s6w17)

142 it's funny how the progressives (heh) believe themselves to be enlightened intellectuals and yet they believe guns create monsters no more guns, no more monsters is their logical conclusion Posted by: soothsayer at December 22, 2012 11:54 AM (GEHBn) To bad we can't barrow ace's time machine, grab a couple of vikings, bring em back and drop them on a libtards doorstep.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 22, 2012 07:55 AM (3Y7RV)

143 Bingo on asking the libtards what other parts of the "so-called" Bill of Rights they are up for a "conversation" about. I think we would be well-served having a conversation about removing the "malice" standard for MFM defamation of public figures and the ability to protect "anonymous government sources." Plus, if you're innocent who needs a jury trial? And why are we wasting law enforcement's time with silly stuff like search warrants? And Barbra Streisand has plenty of room in her mansions, so doesn't it stand to reason that we should begin quartering troops at her place in Malibu? Right to privacy? I'd like to see Lurch's discharge papers that he promised eons ago. This could be a long conversation.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at December 22, 2012 07:56 AM (buW6t)

144 "129

in other words, being anti-gun makes losers feel like heroes

in truth, they are very unhappy self-loathing people who can only feel good about their miserable selves when they demonize others

Posted by: soothsayer at December 22, 2012 11:47 AM (GEHBn)"

I was reading an article a few days after the shooting and it happened to mention that liberals' favorite form of entertainment is anything making fun of conservatives, while conservatives' favorite form of entertainment is football.

They really have nothing animating them but their hatred of those who disagree with them. Which is why whenever a country gets taken over by collectivists, after they purge their first set of enemies, they turn on each other by creating a new set of enemies amongst themselves.

Posted by: BS Inc. at December 22, 2012 07:57 AM (eP0u9)

145 for 9/11, it was the same thing foreign policy creates monsters

Posted by: soothsayer at December 22, 2012 07:57 AM (GEHBn)

146 and we're at the most extreme case of their derrangement syndrome: consumption causes disasters that is, people cause hurricanes, etc.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 22, 2012 08:00 AM (GEHBn)

147 Obama Referred To Himself 63 Times During Eulogy For Senator InouyeÂ… What a cock sucker

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 22, 2012 08:00 AM (79ueO)

148 142, back in time, hell. Go get drunk in a former Soviet Republic, and around three Am you have to hide the axes.

Posted by: Jean at December 22, 2012 08:00 AM (s6w17)

149 http://tinyurl.com/37k8sgr I think someone was just a bit prescient.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 22, 2012 08:01 AM (3Y7RV)

150 We should have gun control signs like we do for highway commute times. At each school here in CA, we should be kept current. "Gun-Free Zone. Nearest help is only 25 MIN away"

Posted by: t-bird at December 22, 2012 08:04 AM (FcR7P)

151 To bad we can't barrow ace's time machine, grab a couple of vikings, bring em back and drop them on a libtards doorstep. Poor, confused Vikings. "Uhh, are you the guys or the girls?"

Posted by: t-bird at December 22, 2012 08:06 AM (FcR7P)

152 Since the MFM has been brought up. Isn't it high time we end the pretense of "neutral" media? We'd get much better coverage if we said the Dems and the GOP designate reporters for their side and had some conventions that the opposition reporters get to ask 1/3 of the questions or something like that.

Posted by: Palerider at December 22, 2012 08:06 AM (vL0Nv)

153 112 The scene I'm talking about was the long blond hair dude they pulled from the tanker truck. What they showed once, and never showed again, was after the dude was beat up and was kind of laying under the floor board of the cab, some fucking scumbag walked up with a shotgun, pumped it, held it out to almost point blank range with one hand and fired, pumped it again, and fired again, then did some dance like he was in the mother fucking end zone of a football field after scoring a touchdown. See this post. It features a photo of the end zone dance. Beyond disgusting. http://www.seraphicpress.com/jew-without-a-gun/

Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2012 08:08 AM (sdi6R)

154 One of the exonerated Â“Central Park FiveÂ” was busted after allegedly flinging a brick at his girlfriend just blocks from the site of the infamous 1989 rape, the Daily News has learned. Corey Wise, 40, was arrested Wednesday afternoon in the October attack on the 30-year-old victim near the northwest corner of the park, according to court records and sources. The couple was fighting at 110th St. and Fifth Ave. around 4 p.m. on Oct. 1 when Wise hurled the brick at his girlfriend as she stormed off, sources said. Though the brick landed at the womanÂ’s feet, she allegedly told cops she feared for her safety after the incident. I am sure he is the apple of his mother's eye

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 22, 2012 08:11 AM (79ueO)

155

We should have gun control signs like we do for highway commute times. At each school here in CA, we should be kept current.

"Gun-Free Zone. Nearest help is only 25 MIN away"

Heh. One of the hospitals here has a billboard with the current waiting time to be seen in their Emergency Rooms. We could repurpose that, too.

Larry's article cites many statistics that we never, ever hear about concerning responsible action taken by gun owners to minimize a massacre. I keep waiting for somebody on our side to step up and start hammering these points on the clueless Leftards.

It never seems to happen...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 22, 2012 08:12 AM (yiIja)

156 See this post. It features a photo of the end zone dance. Beyond disgusting.

http://www.seraphicpress.com/jew-without-a-gun/ Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2012 12:08 PM

yeah but that isn't the scene I'm talking about. This wasn't that Reginald dude that I saw. It was a different dude, and the dude who did the dance was a fat mofo, and there were others around him. I think the media did a bait and switch thing. I think they purposely pushed reginald out in front for no other reason to say oh he lived, see, not so bad. My guess is they thought people would confuse the 2 different situations and "forget" the other scene they saw.

No way was the dude I saw Reginald Denny. The dude I saw got shot at point blank range twice with a shotgun by a fat motherfucker.

Posted by: Berserker at December 22, 2012 08:15 AM (FMbng)

157 Watching "Red Dawn" (1984). Training film.

Posted by: Jypsea Rose is @AmericanGypsea at December 22, 2012 08:18 AM (dDQqO)

158 To conservatives who support the Bill of Rights but do not own a gun and never plan on owning a gun, articles like this seem one step short of lunacy. So weÂ’re going to make Wayne LaPierreÂ’s dream come true and arm everyone now. Everybody whoÂ’s not a felon carries a sidearm, Joe Smith and his wife Susie too, becauseÂ—wellÂ—feminism. CanÂ’t you just see them walking arm in arm down the streets of Akron on a hot summer night with their handguns dangling fetchingly at their sides? HeyÂ—while weÂ’re at it, maybe we can bring back dueling. Condi vs. HilaryÂ—what a show! And what about poor little Alice Noble who wants to be a Teacher and Help Children and now finds out that sheÂ’s also expected to join the SWAT team and fight off classroom intruders with her Colt 38? Not exactly what she was expecting when she joined the profession. Alice hates guns. Well, too bad; Wayne says you need to buck up for the sake of your little charges. For that matter, what kind of weapon is Alice going to be packing? It canÂ’t just be a revolver, because what happens if WayneÂ’s son goes nuts and raids his stash and comes in waving a couple oÂ’ Bushmasters at her? Oh no; obviously sheÂ’s going to need a semi-automatic handgun with a magazine, too. Wheeee! So let me see if I have this straight. We canÂ’t allow so-cons in the conservative ranks anymore. WeÂ’re not allowed to oppose abortion or gay marriageÂ—shut up about all that. But we are supposed to support gun nuts who think they have to have semi-automatic weapons in case the colored people come up from Harlem or Bridgeport and start knocking on their door. Hey wait a minuteÂ—isnÂ’t that exactly what Nancy Lanza thought? I understand full well that the politicization of Sandy Hook by the pacifist Left is repulsive, but why try to outdo them?

Posted by: Cricket at December 22, 2012 08:22 AM (2ArJQ)

159 OK, Berserker, but still read the post I linked. It's pretty gripping.

Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2012 08:23 AM (sdi6R)

160 How do you have an intelligent debate with people like this?

YOU can't convince them. The guy who sticks them up at gunpoint, or carjacks them can.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 22, 2012 08:24 AM (xpgUt)

161 yeah but that isn't the scene I'm talking about. This wasn't that Reginald dude that I saw. It was a different dude, and the dude who did the dance was a fat mofo, and there were others around him. I think the media did a bait and switch thing. I think they purposely pushed reginald out in front for no other reason to say oh he lived, see, not so bad. My guess is they thought people would confuse the 2 different situations and "forget" the other scene they saw. OK, that makes sense.

Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2012 08:25 AM (sdi6R)

162 152 Since the MFM has been brought up. Isn't it high time we end the pretense of "neutral" media? - Yes. Also, repeal the Hollywood tax cuts. Everything that credentials and privileges these leftist and anti-White propagandists with bylines is harmful.

Posted by: The Lightworker at December 22, 2012 08:25 AM (e0KhL)

163 I understand full well that the politicization of Sandy Hook by the pacifist Left is repulsive, but why try to outdo them?

Nobody, not even the NRA has ever seriously said what you just did.

Hyperbole is rarely the answer to anything.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 22, 2012 08:26 AM (xpgUt)

164 So weÂ’re going to make Wayne LaPierreÂ’s dream come true and arm everyone now. It's not arming everyone. It's that everyone could be armed, but you don't know who.

Posted by: t-bird at December 22, 2012 08:27 AM (FcR7P)

165 Hmm. And I thought the key word of the article was "voluntary."

Posted by: Fritz at December 22, 2012 08:28 AM (w3+gB)

166 To conservatives who support the Bill of Rights but do not own a gun and never plan on owning a gun, articles like this seem one step short of lunacy.

Sounds more like a pansy Liberal who fantasizes that they're actually a rough tough self-reliant Conservative.

Posted by: Bayonets on my Christmas Tree at December 22, 2012 08:28 AM (EYx1k)

167 but you don't know who

That's the thing isn't it. Cops and visible security? Easy to spot. The nice little old lady with the knitting in her purse...and a Glock. Not so much.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 22, 2012 08:30 AM (xpgUt)

168 Think of the difference, willful troll, between the following designations: "We Are Proudly A Gun-Free School!" "This School Does Not Qualify For 'Gun-Free' Status"

Posted by: t-bird at December 22, 2012 08:34 AM (FcR7P)

169 Posted by: Cricket at December 22, 2012 12:22 PM (2ArJQ) How does the window taste when you lick it?

Posted by: RWC at December 22, 2012 08:35 AM (sqp6o)

170 From the article: DonÂ’t make it mandatory. In my experience, the only people who are worth a darn with a gun are the ones who wish to take responsibility and carry a gun. Make it voluntary. It is rather simple. but not as simple as a lib's mind-fantasy!

Posted by: t-bird at December 22, 2012 08:37 AM (FcR7P)

171 But we are supposed to support gun nuts who think they have to have semi-automatic weapons in case the colored people ------- Projection....do you speak it.

Posted by: RWC at December 22, 2012 08:38 AM (sqp6o)

172 There's a reason the Palis switched away from mass shootings to bombing.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 22, 2012 08:39 AM (xpgUt)

173 168 Think of the difference, willful troll, between the following designations: "We Are Proudly A Gun-Free School!" "This School ~~Does Not Qualify For 'Gun-Free' Status"~~ Is Armed For Its Students' Safety" Posted by: t-bird at December 22, 2012 12:34 PM (FcR7P) More my style

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 22, 2012 08:40 AM (GEICT)

174 OK, Berserker, but still read the post I linked. It's pretty gripping.

Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2012 12:23 PM

I did read it. I remember seeing the koreans blasting away from roof tops. I was cheering them.

My father had a store in Newark NJ in the 1960's, just in time for the riots. yeah I have a little experience with this shit. I learned early, trust me.

Posted by: Berserker at December 22, 2012 08:43 AM (FMbng)

175 But we are supposed to support gun nuts who think they have to have semi-automatic weapons in case the colored people come up from Harlem or Bridgeport and start knocking on their door.

The PD and FD were ordered to pull back during the Rodney King riots. 50 or so people were murdered in the street as a result.

That was REAL. It happened. "The system" abandoned the public to save its own ass.

Here's a clue: decent blacks are going to need some protection from the mobs too.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 22, 2012 08:43 AM (xpgUt)

176

Wait a minute.

Is everyone forgetting what Drew taught us about nobody needing assault weapons for hunting or target shooting?

Posted by: jwest at December 22, 2012 08:45 AM (ZDsRL)

177 Here's a clue: decent blacks are going to need some protection from the mobs too.
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 22, 2012 12:43 PM

I don't even look at it as a black/ white thing. Its a mob thing. The rodney king thing was a mob created by race hustlers and the fucking media. The OWS thing was a mob created by obama and his class warfare bulshit. Its a leftist thing. Every god damn mob action in recent memory has the stench of a scumbag leftist on it.

Posted by: Berserker at December 22, 2012 08:49 AM (FMbng)

178 There are people who pay attention to what Drew says?

Posted by: In Cognito at December 22, 2012 08:50 AM (gS7S1)

179 I just had a couple of Jehovah Witness(es,es) stop by, and they didn't even wish me a Merry Christmas.

Posted by: Fritz at December 22, 2012 08:52 AM (w3+gB)

180 If we were to designate all the Blue States "Gun Free Zones" and all the Red States Open CC/OC, I bet crime in the Red States would go way, way down.... The trick would then be keeping all the 'tards from moving to the Red States and messing us up!

Posted by: Rob in Katy at December 22, 2012 09:46 AM (PiTBB)

181 156 See this post. It features a photo of the end zone dance. Beyond disgusting. http://www.seraphicpress.com/jew-without-a-gun/ Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2012 12:08 PM yeah but that isn't the scene I'm talking about. This wasn't that Reginald dude that I saw. It was a different dude, and the dude who did the dance was a fat mofo, and there were others around him. I think the media did a bait and switch thing. I think they purposely pushed reginald out in front for no other reason to say oh he lived, see, not so bad. My guess is they thought people would confuse the 2 different situations and "forget" the other scene they saw. No way was the dude I saw Reginald Denny. The dude I saw got shot at point blank range twice with a shotgun by a fat motherfucker. Posted by: Berserker at December 22, 2012 12:15 PM (FMbng) ----- An old friend of mine moved out to LA just before the riots. He had a bunch of VHS tapes of the riots because he used to work in TV production. There was a guy who was pulled out of a truck that had his head smashed by a guy with a med-large sized blunt object (fire extinguisher?). Judging by the blood pool that came out of his head there is NO way that he survived. The circumstances were very similar to the Denny assault but it was never re-broadcast.

Posted by: The Crypto-Cryptologist at December 22, 2012 09:51 AM (XYpsB)

182 If the GOP had any marketing wisdom, they'd relabel any assault weapons ban discussion as the Peashooter Proposal -- or the long version "Let's put peashooters in the hands of the public while thugs and nutjobs continue carrying whatever they want."

But alas, the GOP LOSERship remains in charge -- anyone have any idea what they really stand for...? Other than being experts at losing...

Posted by: Seipherd at December 22, 2012 10:04 AM (BoLlc)

183 Mr. Moo Moo: Godwin dude, Godwin.

When someone acts like a little fascist shit, Godwin's Law goes out the window.

Posted by: Kristophr at December 22, 2012 10:19 AM (wYVte)

184 Cricket, there is good reason to suspect that Mrs Lanza was worried she would be raped, strangled and burned by two white guys like the Petit women were. No need to bring the race card into that.

Posted by: stace, L.I.B. at December 22, 2012 11:01 AM (m+UHL)

185

DAY 46

1,414 to go

Mayans, Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, MIRV's, mutants, malcontents, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, miscreants, momzers, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 22, 2012 09:26 AM (XkWWK)

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And Media Mewling Quims, using any excuse to disarm us.

Posted by: wheatie at December 22, 2012 11:06 AM (K4wCe)

186 I'm all about gun control. I normally shoot prone with a bi-pod Not much of a fan of benchrests and sandbags, make you lazy

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 22, 2012 12:12 PM (jfSqj)

187 Petit women were. No need to bring the race card into that. Posted by: stace, L.I.B. at December 22, 2012 03:01 PM (m+UHL) who is the Petit woman?

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 22, 2012 12:13 PM (jfSqj)

188 I'm all about gun control.

I normally shoot prone with a bi-pod

Not much of a fan of benchrests and sandbags, make you lazy

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 22, 2012 04:12 PM (jfSqj)

Gun control means being able to hit your target.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 22, 2012 12:40 PM (yh0zB)

189 Posted by: SFC MAC at December 22, 2012 11:32 AM (TLbgU)

YOU! are a FUCKING MORON.

Did you even READ the article, or did you just skim it and jump to the wrong conclusions?

Here's a hint for you...Larry Correia is a gun nut.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 22, 2012 12:42 PM (yh0zB)

190 Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 22, 2012 04:42 PM (yh0zB)

Yes, you fucking dickweed. I read the fucking article. That's why I replied to that particular "solution" of his. Ya fucking moron.

Posted by: SFCMAC at December 22, 2012 03:52 PM (TLbgU)

191 Armed. All day. Every day.

Posted by: EROWMER at December 22, 2012 05:09 PM (kxlCQ)

192 SFC MAC, that "solution" you quoted was from the comments section and not his article. In other words, it was not written by Larry Correia. So now who's the "fucking dickweed', hmmmm?

Posted by: BruceC at December 22, 2012 07:20 PM (tqJU8)

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