Ace of Spades HQ

May 25, 2012

Hedgehog Is Being Banned
— Ace

I have warned people: This is a serious business and it's not going to be won with silly games in a blog's comment area.

Bannings will follow.

I do not need such "help."

If you're too stupid to realize what's going on here, I no longer need your input in this site.

As Andy posted earlier, from me:

Now, when he eventually does sue me, I am of course counterclaiming for everything he might still have, as well as having a special master appointed to keep track of any payouts to him from his, um, charities, so that any judgment is satisfied (and not evaded, as a previous victim judgment was).
But understand this: I am going to be sued, and my life is going to be one of constant harassment and intimidation and fear.
Please do not put me in a worse position than I've chosen to be for the sake of some silly blogwar joke.
This is not a blogwar. This is not Amanda Marcotte. Amanda Marcotte does not write lists of people to be murdered.

If your want to help me, please do what I asked: Write to congressman.

Have we all forgotten this is supposed to be a participatory democracy? Do people really think this guy will be thwarted, finally, by a post in a blog's comment area?

We need legislative and judicial action on this. We will not get it if it appears this is just some big silly game where one side slaps the other and the other side slaps back.

If you're not sure if something will "help," then EMAIL ME and ask.

I am in this guy's crosshairs.

What can you post about Kimberlin? Things that are a matter of public record (his bombing and perjury convictions) or actual sourced and cited information.

I do not need speculations, jokes, or other such trivia.

For God's sakes. For God's sakes.

Please think before you emote.

Posted by: Ace at 09:16 AM | Comments (186)
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1 Luckily I have no idea what is going on.

Posted by: Pete at May 25, 2012 09:18 AM (j/wD+)

2 Me too. I have no idea what's going on either.

Posted by: Kaitian at May 25, 2012 09:20 AM (1oSTF)

3 We may be "morons" but hopefully you know many of us are also respected professionals in our fields.

With that in mind, please don't be shy about reaching out for help. Not just for funds.

This may simply be thought of as a blog and you a simple "blogger". But it's much more than that.

Posted by: Exile at May 25, 2012 09:20 AM (/Argg)

4 You do what you have to, Ace. We understand.

Posted by: creeper at May 25, 2012 09:20 AM (gre5a)

5 Me neither.

Posted by: Buffalobob at May 25, 2012 09:20 AM (zA1jk)

6
Yeah, I don't get it all either.

Is this just some jerk who has tons of free money to spare and who is independently just taking all conservative bloggers to court? Or is this part of some coordinated effort?

I don't get it. Someone needs to summarize this (in less that 100000000000 words if possible).

Posted by: dan-O at May 25, 2012 09:21 AM (/ROCY)

7 I understand Ace.

We just have to stick to the facts about Brett to win our argument. The man is a convicted liar, bomber, and drug dealer.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2012 09:22 AM (2cYUg)

8 Oh apparently Hedgehog went a bit too far with finding out information about Kimberlin, I guess.

Posted by: Kaitian at May 25, 2012 09:22 AM (1oSTF)

9 I have no idea what's going on... much like an average liberal. However, unlike an average liberal, I don't have a strong, angry opnion about it.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at May 25, 2012 09:22 AM (gPDxp)

10 Once again - if you need a hangout in what is likely a friendly jurisdiction, email me.

Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2012 09:22 AM (7vSU0)

11 or practical stuff you can do to fade, email me.

Posted by: Jean at May 25, 2012 09:23 AM (WkuV6)

12 Hey blaster, mind telling us what you do? I'm curious

Posted by: Pete at May 25, 2012 09:24 AM (j/wD+)

13 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at May 25, 2012 09:24 AM (8y9MW)

14 Discipline. Out the loser without violating the law and/or opening up our Endorian host for more trouble.

Posted by: Popcorn at May 25, 2012 09:25 AM (OOehk)

15 Hey Ace, do you remember the Clint Eastwood western where these peaceful farmers are being terrorized, and there's nothing they can do, and a little girl prays God help them, and Clint Eastwood rides in the next morning, and organizes the townsfolk to shun the gang boss and he gives up and goes away peaceful like? Yeah I don't remember that either. You guys asking a million people to dislike the bad man are the ones playing games.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at May 25, 2012 09:26 AM (3GtyG)

16 What did hedgehog say?

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at May 25, 2012 09:26 AM (IEUSX)

17 Must be starting to hurt the left, Kos is trying to minimize it with snark;

Markos Moulitsas ‏@markos

So wingnut bloggers are apparently trying their hardest to make some nobody into the greatest hitler on the left. ‪#shrug‬ ‪#SlowNewsDay

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Posted by: RioBravo at May 25, 2012 09:27 AM (eEfYn)

19 WTF?

Posted by: Jim Treacher at May 25, 2012 09:27 AM (X3KAb)

If you hit the tip jar maybe Ace could afford to rent my battalion of recently un-employed On-Her Guard.

I don't know if there are any lawyers in there, but I think a couple of them have clerked.

Posted by: Zombie Quadafy at May 25, 2012 09:27 AM (73HFo)

21 There was personal information regarding the Convicted Domestic Terrorist posted in another thread. It was not overly specific, but Ace is viewing this entire matter with regard to liability against him, since he is the one likely to be served.

Posted by: nickless at May 25, 2012 09:28 AM (MMC8r)

22 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2012 09:28 AM (6HIQG)

23 What did hedgehog say?

The last I saw, he was giving tips on how to find Brett Kimberlin's personal information. He may have also posted some identifying information RE: Kimberlin's residence.

Guys- that can be (reasonably) considered harassing/threatening behavior. Cut that crap out.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at May 25, 2012 09:28 AM (8y9MW)

24 Ace, is there any reason why you can't just shut down the comments for these type of threads? I doubt most of us would be upset, and it seems like the best way to prevent one of us morons from doing something stupid.

Posted by: taylork at May 25, 2012 09:28 AM (ppNDn)

25 The last I saw, he was giving tips on how to find Brett Kimberlin's personal information. He may have also posted some identifying information RE: Kimberlin's residence. Guys- that can be (reasonably) considered harassing/threatening behavior. Cut that crap out. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at May 25, 2012 01:28 PM (8y9MW) "Life is hard. It's harder if you're stupid" - John Wayne.

Posted by: The Robot Devil at May 25, 2012 09:29 AM (DNTer)

26 Don't sound so rattle man. Cowardly sociopaths feed off that, it feeds into their narcissistic grandios fantasies of being big tough guys. Lay down the law to idiot commentators, but present a wall of iron resolve to the scum whether you feel it or not. This thing is just starting to build, the cavalry is coming.

Posted by: Amos at May 25, 2012 09:29 AM (m+ljp)

27 Threacher, get on top of this. You have way too many readers not to.

Posted by: mesablue at May 25, 2012 09:30 AM (+31WT)

28 STAND TALL ACE YOU ARE NOT ALONE!!

Posted by: sonnyspats at May 25, 2012 09:30 AM (Qr9Rc)

29 Twitter is making me miss everything. What happened?

Posted by: Rocks at May 25, 2012 09:30 AM (Q1lie)

30 Hey Libtards: I found one of Ace's baby photos... wasn't he, uh, "cute"? http://babyanimalz.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/bebe_ewok.jpg

Posted by: Naqamel at May 25, 2012 09:30 AM (UMwMT)

31 Sadly we live in interesting times. I've got a feeling it's going to be a very interesting summer.

Posted by: hobbes at May 25, 2012 09:30 AM (+CcmI)

Ron Jeremy has done nothing to nobody, cept a few young teens fresh off the bus and a few huge women where he played piano on their back while giving them the hedgehog.

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E. Buzz. Bunnies. at May 25, 2012 09:31 AM (tcSZb)

33 - Contact your rep in congress first, then contact other reps. that may actually do something (McCotter) if you are stuck with an unfortunate rep. - Alert your local media, alt. media, & favorite blogs about this story - Get on Twitter and use #BrettKimberlin There are plenty of positive things we can do. We should make Tuesday, May 29 Tweet about #BrettKimberlin day. Then make Wednesday email your local news reporters about Brett Kimberlin day.

Posted by: The Pitt at May 25, 2012 09:31 AM (7lbXY)

34 Shut down the comments? Man, commenting here is a priveledge, and a sacred trust. Don't abuse the trust. And don't think like a leftard and just assume nobody has any self control so the priveledge is just taken away.

Posted by: maddogg at May 25, 2012 09:32 AM (OlN4e)

35 Sadly we live in interesting times. I've got a feeling it's going to be a very interesting summer. It will escalate, as Walker wins and Obama fades and OWS riots.

Posted by: nickless at May 25, 2012 09:32 AM (MMC8r)

36 A borderline retard like Kos trying to do snark is pretty funny; as in completely pathetic and transparent.

I like Hedgehog and hope he'll be reinstated after this dies down.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 25, 2012 09:32 AM (ugr8V)

37 >>Have we all forgotten this is supposed to be a participatory democracy?

It's supposed to be a representational republic.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at May 25, 2012 09:32 AM (/kI1Q)

38 Keep it within the ground rules, is all. Been reading various links, Patterico's is chilling in the extreme. No time to independently research primary sources on my own hole-in-the-wall blog, so I can't join the burst myself. Keep the heat on, ace, and do what you must to watch your back and cover your *ss.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at May 25, 2012 09:32 AM (1zwZo)

39 Ugh. Yeah, contact ace before being helpful. And hopefully somebody will get the law on this guy before ace has to worry about his well being.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at May 25, 2012 09:33 AM (RD7QR)

40 I tells 'em and I tells 'em and I tells 'em Nothing on Rush, yet. I hope some you are on hold with him.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 25, 2012 09:33 AM (MCDCp)

41 It is moments like this when I miss the usually annoying prescence of one Palin Steele.

Funny, now that you mention it, certain...odoriferous regulars seem oddly absent today...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, New Caprica City DMV at May 25, 2012 09:33 AM (GBXon)

Hey, about that guy, yeah...that guy?

I got nothin'.

Posted by: Meremortal at May 25, 2012 09:33 AM (jTKU5)

43 I'm incapable of understanding the mindset of these people. Ace, I know you're not religious, so I hope this doesn't offend, but I'm praying for you. Please look after yourself.

Posted by: plum at May 25, 2012 09:33 AM (h4Yoq)

44 Kos has ties to Kimberlin, does he not?

Posted by: nickless at May 25, 2012 09:34 AM (MMC8r)

45 It will escalate, as Walker wins and Obama fades and OWS riots.

No kidding. Keep the ammo dry, folks. Instead of the usual jokes about hobo hunting, it might be rioter season. Stay safe out there, everyone.

Posted by: Naqamel at May 25, 2012 09:34 AM (UMwMT)

46 If your want to help me, please do what I asked: Write to congressman.

Not to be an even bigger cynical jerk than usual, but what would you like us to write?

It's documented that:

1. Kimberlin is a Very Bad Man and felon.
2. He files a lot of frivolous lawsuits.
3. He has some bullshit 501c "charities".

What reasonable, plausible action should I be asking my congressman take?

You mentioned asking for a federal law to require a licensed attorney to handle legal matters for a 501(c), but I'm not sure what good that would do- Kimberlin could still sue on his own behalf, unconnected to his "charity".

Tort reform isn't going anywhere, not with Dems holding the presidency and the Senate. And they're not going to pass a federal law that targets one scumbag.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 25, 2012 09:34 AM (SY2Kh)

47 Ace. Here in NYC if you need me. I have nothing to offer but a cup of coffee and a sammich of your choice.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 25, 2012 09:34 AM (MCDCp)

48 "5 - Contact your rep in congress first, then contact other reps. that may actually do something (McCotter) if you are stuck with an unfortunate rep. - Alert your local media, alt. media, & favorite blogs about this story - Get on Twitter and use #BrettKimberlin There are plenty of positive things we can do. We should make Tuesday, May 29 Tweet about #BrettKimberlin day. Then make Wednesday email your local news reporters about Brett Kimberlin day." And do what? Build an America where we have preventative detention? What, exactly, do you think you are accomplishing?

Posted by: Chris Balsz at May 25, 2012 09:34 AM (3GtyG)

49 Markos Moulitsas ‏@markos

So wingnut bloggers are apparently trying their hardest to make some nobody into the greatest hitler on the left.

No way in hell would the rightosphere react like this if the roles were reversed.

Posted by: 13times at May 25, 2012 09:34 AM (h6XiD)

50 And if/when Zimmerman is acquitted... another reason for riots to start.

Posted by: Naqamel at May 25, 2012 09:34 AM (UMwMT)

51 46 It is moments like this when I miss the usually annoying prescence of one Palin Steele. Our own Joe Biden.

Posted by: nickless at May 25, 2012 09:34 AM (MMC8r)

52 I still don;t understand how this guy can have so many people complicit in covering up that which is a matter of public, legal record. He was convicted and did time. Why is that taboo?

Posted by: clp at May 25, 2012 09:34 AM (AJx9P)

53 33

Ron Jeremy has done nothing to nobody, cept a few young teens fresh off the bus and a few huge women where he played piano on their back while giving them the hedgehog.

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E. Buzz. Bunnies. at May 25, 2012 01:31 PM (tcSZb)

You just had to put that image in my head didn't you?

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at May 25, 2012 09:35 AM (RD7QR)

54 New (non-kimberlin) post up at my place. I would tweet it instead of posting that here, but I seem to have broken my twitter access by going completely bonkers with the re-tweets today...

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at May 25, 2012 09:35 AM (8y9MW)

55 Let's put our mouths where our wallets are (or something). Put the tip jar back up and call it the "ace moronic defence of libertines fund (or something).

Posted by: TimothyJ at May 25, 2012 09:36 AM (Ggn0m)

56 Ace:

Do what you have to to cover your backside. Most of us here get that, and (despite all evidence given by our action in the ONT) are pretty level-headed and intelligent.

Hang in there, little ewok.

Posted by: RightWingProf at May 25, 2012 09:36 AM (IC6Er)

57 I have no idea why you would post something that is obvious and can easily be found. You're not exactly fucking being Sherlock Holmes here. Anyone could do this. They don't need pointers. So what is the point?

Posted by: ace at May 25, 2012 09:36 AM (aw5Tx)

58 WTF?

Posted by: Jim Treacher at May 25, 2012 01:27 PM (X3KAb)

Where have you been all week?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at May 25, 2012 09:36 AM (0q2P7)

59 54 Markos Moulitsas ‏@markosSo wingnut bloggers are apparently trying their hardest to make some nobody into the greatest hitler on the left. No way in hell would the rightosphere react like this if the roles were reversed. Posted by: 13times at May 25, 2012 01:34 PM (h6XiD) Hitler is the greatest Hitler of the left. Except for Joe Stalin and Mao. Kos is jealous.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 25, 2012 09:36 AM (MCDCp)

60 "We must all hang together, or surely we will all hang separately."

Ben Franklin always was my fave. True words, folks.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, New Caprica City DMV at May 25, 2012 09:37 AM (GBXon)

61 If you really want to get Ace to come up to your place, offer him pancakes.

Posted by: garrett at May 25, 2012 09:37 AM (73HFo)

62 Wrote both congress critters but they are worthless Wrote both senators but one is knee deep in the democrat power structure and the other, Akaka i think died years ago and no one said anything Best i can do for now

Posted by: navycopjoe at May 25, 2012 09:38 AM (QULDk)

63 "For God's sakes. For God's sakes."

I have had my life threatened three times in my life.

As a young woman, a casual acquaintance who's affections I had spurned put a gun to my head on a crowded beach and threatened to drag me off and kill me.
The crowded beach saved my life.

Last summer, a young man tried to run us over with his boat, shouting" I'll kill you!" We had pointed out his reckless boating behavior and he proceeded to grace us with a little more of where that came from. We escaped into the mouth of the lake's river, he could not navigate the rocky entrance.

This spring we worked a neighborhood drug house situation into a SWAT raid, and the heroin junky, whose two small little girls were taken in by CPS in that raid, threatened our lives from jail. I fled the state for two weeks until things calmed down. Spent the time at the shooting range.

There is nothing more disconcerting that having your life upended by people who express a desire to kill you.

My thoughts and prayers are with you Ace. Sweating bullets is not a good place to be and I wish you peace, very, very soon.

Posted by: Derak at May 25, 2012 09:38 AM (lLFUO)

64 A former mechanic for Marine I is talking to Rush now. He's out of the service now.

Posted by: runningrn at May 25, 2012 09:38 AM (WGmy2)

65 Over the past few years, this blog has largely become a hang-out for some people showing a bit of desperation. I miss the days when commenters actually left intelligent (sometimes witty) comments and thoughts. The large comment threads are full of useless banter. . . might as well host a chatroom for that. Not everybody is like that, but. . . Banning commenters for your protection is fine by me.

Posted by: just sayin' at May 25, 2012 09:38 AM (W5c4e)

66 As a resident of Central Indiana who lived through his "Speedway Bomber" phase, I can attest to this persons destructive ways. The bombs were his opening act, now he is intent on other means of ruining lives and needs to be stopped.

Posted by: awhindy at May 25, 2012 09:38 AM (zeWWc)

67 And now that I think of it, this sure explains Ace's new hash. Undisclosed location? Hope someone's taken the steps required to secure the Ewok's six from more direct action, this stuff always bugs me...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, New Caprica City DMV at May 25, 2012 09:39 AM (GBXon)

68 What reasonable, plausible action should I be asking my congressman take?

That Kimberlin's record be read into the Congressional Record. The thin veneer of "logic" which Kimberlin appears to be using is that his crime was 34 years ago (really 33, BK, just to be clear) and that mentioning it now is defamation. If his record is read into the Congressional Record, then he loses even that chimerical bit of logic.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at May 25, 2012 09:39 AM (8y9MW)

69 Morons gather here to be part of a community of, if not like-minded individuals- then, individuals with shared values: unique American values. Truth, justice, and the American way (freedom, the responsibilities that come with that freedom, and numerous others that I'm certain would be greeted with a resounding, "Hell yeah!") is more than a crappy comic book line. And, we want to be part of the solution. We no longer trust those who have proven unworthy or unwilling to to safeguard our liberties. It is difficult to stand on the sideline, watching a process we don't understand and are forbade to approach. Mobilizing a few pontificators, while the Moron Horde stands idly by scratching their asses, seems unproductive. But, OK. You've earned that. I'll see y'all on the ONT. Good luck and Godspeed.

Posted by: Beefy Meatball at May 25, 2012 09:39 AM (mxnUd)

70 >>Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 25, 2012 01:34 PM (SY2Kh)

This is not the day for annoying, masturbatory contrarianism

Posted by: Albie Damned at May 25, 2012 09:39 AM (Yhu4q)

71 ...and OpenBlogger would ride out and meet the threat head-on!

Posted by: garrett at May 25, 2012 09:39 AM (73HFo)

72 Thanks to all the bloggers who are working hard today so people can learn the truth about this guy. Before? I had no idea. Yes, it's a long complicated story. Please take time to read and fwd it.

Posted by: Cathy at May 25, 2012 09:39 AM (jJ56a)

73 He said how grateful and personable GWB was vs Oblahblah. No surprise there!

Posted by: runningrn at May 25, 2012 09:39 AM (WGmy2)

74 "What, exactly, do you think you are accomplishing?" Chris Balsz at May 25, 2012 01:34 PM (3GtyG) Using sunlight as a disinfectant. Maybe it will force the authorities in certain jurisdictions to do their jobs.

Posted by: The Pitt at May 25, 2012 09:40 AM (7lbXY)

75 Be safe, Ace. This Kimberlin guy seems intent on getting back into prison. It's not generally a good idea to go threatening a prosecutor, an ADA, a few lawyers and several journalists.

Maybe someone could convince the IRS to stop pestering Tea Parties and look into Kimberlin's 501(c)(3) orgs. Given how fast he is to whip out lawsuits, there's gotta be something interesting there that he'd rather nobody look at.

Posted by: brian at May 25, 2012 09:41 AM (y05cf)

I don't know about God, but folks,

Restraint.

Do it for the Ewok.

Posted by: West at May 25, 2012 09:41 AM (1Rgee)

77 Hey Morons,

I've been completely under water at school for the last month or so. Can someone point me to a summary of what's going on?

Thanks.

Posted by: vermin at May 25, 2012 09:42 AM (dAIU+)

78 Whatever it is, good luck Ace.

Posted by: vermin at May 25, 2012 09:42 AM (dAIU+)

79
Markos Moulitsas ‏@markosSo wingnut bloggers are apparently
trying their hardest to make some nobody into the greatest hitler on the
left.

Geez, Markos really is trying to get on that guy's bad side. Calling him "some nobody" is pretty funny when you consider that he likely has a wildly overblown sense of his importance.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 25, 2012 09:42 AM (xDqit)

80 51 - You could ask for the vextigious litigant designation be expanded from an individual to a closely linked group of nuts.

Posted by: Jean at May 25, 2012 09:43 AM (WkuV6)

81 Kimberlin Funders Stunned to Discover they Fund Kimberlin
http://is.gd/hXlRLZ

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at May 25, 2012 09:43 AM (/kI1Q)

82 I've left calls with our congressional representative -even though she's an idiot -our sane senator..and I left a message with Carl Levin's office asking why he went to bat for this POS, and if he stands by him still

..Levin's office said they'd get back to me...uh huh

Posted by: Albie Damned at May 25, 2012 09:43 AM (Yhu4q)

83
And do what? Build an America where we have preventative detention?

Give me a fucking break.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 25, 2012 09:44 AM (G/zuv)

84 So far, BK's victories have come from taking on unsuspecting defendants and alleged extreme personal harassment, as well as the predictable indifference of a prosecutor (what, MoCo doesn't have anything better to do?). That being said, good luck Ace, thanks for letting us know what we littles can do.

Posted by: joeindc44 says come on, guys, no tough questions at May 25, 2012 09:44 AM (QxSug)

85 @83: Read Patterico's post. It'll get you up to speed very quickly, including how Ace got dragged into this.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 25, 2012 09:44 AM (tqwMN)

86 88. Trade senators?

Posted by: navycopjoe at May 25, 2012 09:45 AM (QULDk)

87 thought having a strong, angru opinion about everything was a prerequisite to posting not only here but anywhere else on the internets.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at May 25, 2012 01:24 PM (OWjjx)

It's not, but it sure helps!

Posted by: Insomniac at May 25, 2012 09:45 AM (DrWcr)

88 I'm late to the party today and just finished catching up. I read the entire piece at Patterico and I am horrified. Ace, when you said you had "already died 40 cowards' deaths this past week. That's enough for me. I will die no more of them.", I was confused because this seemed to be a fairly new story and one to which you had not seemed to be a part. The seriousness of what has transpired with Patterico alone is enough to give any man pause before jumping into the fray. Now, recognizing that you have been part of the story for some time now, I commend you for joining in the fight. You didn't go looking for it, but you have not "died a coward's death." Any commenter who continues to make light of the situation has simply failed to recognize that this is no ordinary blog story, and no ordinary enemy. I feel certain that many others will share in the sentiment that we are here for you to assist in any way possible, even if that simply means to get the heck out of the way. God speed.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 25, 2012 09:46 AM (piMMO)

89 Markos, as usual, is being deliberately obtuse. In general, he seems to dislike facts that make liberals look bad.

Posted by: Slublog at May 25, 2012 09:46 AM (SjVZP)

90 If you need some one to do research, email me. MLIS and access to a variety of databases.

Posted by: Jack at May 25, 2012 09:46 AM (wUFaM)

91 This is not the day for annoying, masturbatory contrarianism

I'm not trying to be simply contrarian. I keep seeing calls to write our elected officials, but I'm honestly not quite clear on what they reasonably could be expected to do.

He's already on record, documented in mainstream newspapers and the criminal record, as being the Speedway Bomber. Reading his criminal history into the congressional record will stop him how? Shame him?

I'm happy to write my congress-critters (useless Dems though they are), but I don't want to just helplessly shout "DO SOMETHING!!!!".

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 25, 2012 09:46 AM (SY2Kh)

92 >>Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ at May 25, 2012 01:43 PM (/kI1Q)

Fidelity Investments is also a big funder for MMfA. The wife has an IRA account with them. It's time to change that

Posted by: Albie Damned at May 25, 2012 09:47 AM (Yhu4q)

93 Posted by: Ian S. at May 25, 2012 01:44 PM (tqwMN)

Thanks.

Posted by: vermin at May 25, 2012 09:47 AM (dAIU+)

94 To learn more about the story, go here: http://allergic2bull.blogspot.com/ and here: http://patterico.com/

Posted by: The Pitt at May 25, 2012 09:47 AM (7lbXY)

95 Okay, i have an idea We'll let Sarah Palin know and to get money for a defense fund she can make a exercise video where she does jumping jacks for an hour Might work

Posted by: navycopjoe at May 25, 2012 09:47 AM (QULDk)

96 #88

You don't have anything to do w/ Albie's Bike Shop, do you?

Posted by: Navin R Johnson at May 25, 2012 09:48 AM (HpT9p)

97 Reading his criminal history into the congressional record will stop him how?

It would make it easier to have the nuisance cases he brings dismissed. It would help disarm him.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at May 25, 2012 09:48 AM (8y9MW)

98 Fidelity Investments is also a big funder for MMfA. The wife has an IRA account with them. It's time to change that

Posted by: Albie Damned at May 25, 2012 01:47 PM (Yhu4q)

Shit. Do you have a link for that?

Posted by: Tami at May 25, 2012 09:48 AM (X6akg)

99 Stay safe. These leftys are murderers. Don't try to appeal to their better nature, because they don't have one.

Posted by: brando at May 25, 2012 09:49 AM (IPGju)

100 =>I still don;t understand how this guy can have so many people complicit in covering up that which is a matter of public, legal record. He was convicted and did time. Why is that taboo?

I think he's convinced a lot of people on the left that he's innocent of those things he was convicted for. With most of them being drooling imbeciles, it probably hasn't been difficult.

Posted by: slatz at May 25, 2012 09:49 AM (Fvc5o)

101 "I'm not trying to be simply contrarian. I keep seeing calls to write our elected officials, but I'm honestly not quite clear on what they reasonably could be expected to do." Change the law so we tax payers stop indirectly supporting slime like Kimberlin. Barbara Striesand, Theresa Kerry, etc. got a tax breaks (aka taking away $ from us all) by giving him money. That needs to stop.

Posted by: The Pitt at May 25, 2012 09:50 AM (7lbXY)

102 Is there a way to donate to the Ewok other than the tip jar? Paypal be traceable, you know...

Posted by: SouthCounty at May 25, 2012 09:51 AM (49yng)

103

There are tort actions for Wrongful initiation of a civil proceeding.

If he files in your home state, then he's basically given up any personal jurisdiction argument and you can haul him into court on your turf, after getting his case against you dismissed. He may not have much, but a garnishment will seriously cramp his style and probably lead to a violation of 501(c)(3) financing rules.

Posted by: imp at May 25, 2012 09:51 AM (UaxA0)

104 I still think one way end intimidation scheme, assuming this guy is being paid as grievance actor, is to get a member of the press to ask Obama or Eric Holder about it during a live press conference. Those two have no problem injecting themselves into local affairs, see the Cambridge Police & Trayvon Martin case, so why not drag them into this mess? I'm sure this whole affair will end quite quickly when the opposite of the desired effect starts to snowball.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at May 25, 2012 09:52 AM (KCvsd)

105 >> Fidelity Investments is also a big funder for MMfA. The wife has an IRA account with them. It's time to change that

Posted by: Albie Damned at May 25, 2012 01:47 PM (Yhu4q)

Shit. Do you have a link for that?

Posted by: Tami at May 25, 2012 01:48 PM (X6akg)

Scroll down

http://tinyurl.com/c38465g

Posted by: Albie Damned at May 25, 2012 09:52 AM (Yhu4q)

106 Change the law so we tax payers stop indirectly supporting slime like Kimberlin. Barbara Striesand, Theresa Kerry, etc. got a tax breaks (aka taking away $ from us all) by giving him money. That needs to stop. ---- Are you calling for an end to tax deductions for charitable contributions or are you calling for an investigation into this charity's non-profit status? Because the former will have many consequences that are not good. The latter involves IRS bureaucrats more than Congressmen, doesn't it?

Posted by: Y-not at May 25, 2012 09:52 AM (5H6zj)

107 What a piece of work this Kimberlin idiot is. I retweeted a number of the tweets coming across my timeline. Any little bit is something. I hope this guy gets his due process enema one of these days.

Posted by: Psycotte at May 25, 2012 09:53 AM (Hk10/)

108 The latter involves IRS bureaucrats more than Congressmen, doesn't it?

I got the sense, yesterday, that ace was thinking have their 501(3)(c) status investigated and revoked. And, yes, the IRS does that, but it would likely take a Congressman to ask them to. At least, it probably would in this case.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at May 25, 2012 09:54 AM (8y9MW)

109 "Are you calling for an end to tax deductions for charitable contributions or are you calling for an investigation into this charity's non-profit status? Because the former will have many consequences that are not good. " I have been calling for a flat tax with zero deductions for years now, so both. People should put their money where their mouth is, especially with charity.

Posted by: The Pitt at May 25, 2012 09:55 AM (7lbXY)

110

Geraghty over at Campaign Spot has a Patterico piece up. He should be on the sidebar.

Posted by: imp at May 25, 2012 09:55 AM (UaxA0)

111 some of you idiots need to think about what you are saying before

hey ace its no prolbem if you need a body gaurd or just want a bro

to talk about things with play video games ect basic hang out plus also

proteciton with karate boxing invasive driving skills ect piece out bro

Posted by: Jose Canseco's Gristle Encased Head at May 25, 2012 09:55 AM (+lsX1)

112

We may be "morons" but hopefully you know many of us are also respected professionals in our fields

Yes...I have been that I am outstanding in my field as well.

Posted by: dananjcon-ski at May 25, 2012 09:56 AM (eavT+)

113 Some seem to think this is his twitter acct - http://twitter.com/#!/BreitbartUnmask

Posted by: booger at May 25, 2012 09:56 AM (HI6wa)

114 I guess I'm posting hat I'm about to post for the benefit of others here. Having had some experience in courts (more than I ever wanted), I know how every single word and syllable can be dissected and used against you, and this include innocuous comments.

I have made no comments on any of the Kimberlin posts because, frankly, I would not have said anything positive. I wanted - and still want - to poke the bear (for clarification's sake, Ace is not the 'bear'). I have found myself on more than one occasion wishing I had my own blog for the purposes of antagonizing this ... 'person'...ever since I read the first post about him...and his cohorts.

But consider this: There's a guy on your street who's an asshole. Everyone knows he's an asshole. So you walk down the street, stand in front of his house, and shout "Dude, you're an asshole!" He's going to want to confront you on your opinion of him. Now consider this scenario in a slightly different context; instead of standing in front of the guy's house you go inside his neighbor's house, open his window and shout "Dude, you're an asshole!" Now this asshole has a problem not only with you, but the neighbor who let you in the house so you could shout at him from a closer proximity.

Calling Kimberlin well-deserved names on this blog is the equivalent of shouting form the neighbor's house. This is Ace's house, and Kimberlin is the kind of...'person'...who will take any opportunity to use even the most innocuous comment against him. If you read Patterico's long post that Andy linked to, you will know that there is an effort by ...'these people'...to discover Ace's real identity. There can be no purpose for wanting Ace's actual identity other than for harassment objectives.

Maybe I'm out of line saying all this; I'm not trying to sound like a lecturing mother. Believe me, I know full well how tempting it is to toss comments at ...'these people'...but we're not standing out on the street. We're in Ace's house.

And the neighbor in this case is a very unstable person, surrounded by very unstable persons, with a violent past. And they have made it clear they want to know who Ace is.

Of course...I know who Ace is. I figured it out last week.

Ace is 'Open Blogger'. I noticed this when they weren't in the same room at the same time.

We're with you Ace. It's just that our enthusiasm is such that we don't just want to stand up and say "I'm Spartacus!", we want to grab swords and impale Romans.

Posted by: sgt. york at May 25, 2012 09:57 AM (cGPup)

115 Got your back, Ace. Been emailing factual, non-edited summaries and links only to many of my friends without adding any useless maunderings or bullshit. This is ugly. I won't ever make more difficult for any of youse guys. For what it is worth, you and the other bloggers involved are in my and my friends' prayers.

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at May 25, 2012 09:57 AM (YSyyZ)

116 >>>Reading his criminal history into the congressional record will stop him how? Shame him?

Every inch of the congressional record is by definition a subject of public debate and discussion. Having the subject matter in the record makes subsequent law suits easier for those who might get caught in them.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at May 25, 2012 09:57 AM (0q2P7)

117 In my post, I noted the Dept. of Justice's lack of interest. Haven't federal laws been broken? Civil rights issues also?

It strikes me if all the allegations about Kimberlin are true--if half of them, even--this guy is a sociopath. A seriously dangerous person.

At any rate, I'm trying to get some media people in orgs I'm in interested in this. But I also believe law enforcement, as I said in my article, should do due diligence to investigate and prosecute.

Posted by: Kay B. Day at May 25, 2012 09:57 AM (yEzyE)

118 Both he and "Justice Through Music" are on FB.

Posted by: runningrn at May 25, 2012 09:58 AM (WGmy2)

119 Leave it to Canseco to show up and tell us what's real. Cheers.

Posted by: Cicero at May 25, 2012 09:58 AM (QKKT0)

120 Hey Morons, I've been completely under water at school for the last month or so. Can someone point me to a summary of what's going on? Thanks. **** This isn't a story that can be summarized into a tidy comment. It is the story of stalking and terrorizing families. It is the story of police inaction. It is the story of violent threats and intimidation against the First Amendment. The article at Patterico is long (very long) but is as engrossing as any Law and Order episode. Ace has provided years of free entertainment, allowing us to bond with one another as if we were a second family. During this time he has never asked for more earnest understanding of any situation such as that in which he finds himself now. We owe him the respect of performing the due diligence required to understand what has taken place. The link to the Patterico story is included in a post from this morning.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 25, 2012 09:58 AM (piMMO)

121 The Big Govt piece is good, but naive. Fidelity has no control over how the individual donors to that fund direct their gifts. They're just a conduit. Moreover, the implication in Big Govt's article that this scum-bag's non-profit, and Media Matters, are using this as some sort of trick or scam is naive. Every legitimate charity where my husband and I have worked takes gifts via Fidelity and similar funds. Fidelity was the biggest one in terms of gift volume. And the way those gifts come in, it is not always possible to discern (from the recipient side) who was directing the gift. The donor of record was often Fidelity. So Fidelity and that community foundation were not the problem donors. I am more suspect of the one that claimed it could not answer questions about their 2005 and 2006 gifts. Their explanation, at least as reported by Big Gov, did not ring true. There must be records that explain how those funds were disbursed. And, of course, places like the Tides Foundation (which reported assets >$16 million in 2010) should have the resources to exert due diligence in how they disburse their funds. That said, short of an investigation demonstrating that this jerk's non-profit is violating its 501c3 status, I don't know that it's not a legally operating charity. They don't report many assets (in recent years). It's worth investigating the charity more than the donors at this stage of the game, imho.

Posted by: Y-not at May 25, 2012 10:00 AM (5H6zj)

122 "For God's sakes. For God's sakes."

I didn't think Ace believed in God. No atheists in foxholes, and so, I guess, no doubters in the dock.

Posted by: Leo Ladenson at May 25, 2012 10:00 AM (mAm+G)

123 "Change the law so we tax payers stop indirectly supporting slime like Kimberlin. Barbara Striesand, Theresa Kerry, etc. got a tax breaks (aka taking away $ from us all) by giving him money." Wrong. What Barbara earns is her money, what she donates is her money, what she earns and does not pay taxes on is her money. It is not a taking from anybody. We do not owe the government our wages, and take from the nation in that we have something left after taxes.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at May 25, 2012 10:00 AM (3GtyG)

124 Canadian conservative TV is covering this because of Tides funding leftist and Red-enviro groups in Canada:

Matthew Vadum joins Ezra Levant to outline the ties between the Tides Foundation and convicted terrorist Brett Kimberlin.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 25, 2012 10:00 AM (FTuxU)

125 Do we know what NJ district the other Swatting target was harrassed in?? It seems it would be best to contact that districts Senator. Regardless Garret NJ 5 will be getting an e-mail from me.

Posted by: dananjcon-ski at May 25, 2012 10:00 AM (eavT+)

126 It would make it easier to have the nuisance cases he brings dismissed. It would help disarm him.

Defendants in such nuisance cases can already point to his documented criminal record.

If a congressman did read it into the record, it would be one of those sessions where there the chamber is practically empty, watched by almost nobody on C-SPAN.

Likewise suggesting we write asking to "change the law" isn't helpful. Change what specific law? In what way?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 25, 2012 10:01 AM (SY2Kh)

127 114 The latter involves IRS bureaucrats more than Congressmen, doesn't it? I got the sense, yesterday, that ace was thinking have their 501(3)(c) status investigated and revoked. And, yes, the IRS does that, but it would likely take a Congressman to ask them to. At least, it probably would in this case. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at May 25, 2012 01:54 PM (8y9MW) I wonder if this is something Allen West would take up? That man has balls of steel.

Posted by: Mandy P., long-time lurker at May 25, 2012 10:01 AM (qFpRI)

128 I would like to see the books for these 'charities,' however. I'd like to see if they meet a reasonable threshold of expenditure for altruistic purposes, or any at all.

Posted by: nickless at May 25, 2012 10:02 AM (MMC8r)

129 So Fidelity and that community foundation were not the problem donors. I am more suspect of the one that claimed it could not answer questions about their 2005 and 2006 gifts. Their explanation, at least as reported by Big Gov, did not ring true. There must be records that explain how those funds were disbursed.

So I don't have to close all my Fidelity accounts, right?

Posted by: Tami at May 25, 2012 10:03 AM (X6akg)

130 Question - wouldn't someone like the person in question have a parole officer along with conditions of parole?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 25, 2012 10:03 AM (f9c2L)

131

Hey Ace,

In case you haven't seen it, just posting a link to a good size Canadian blog (small dead animals) which discusses and links to much of this issue. It also contains a Sun News video clip (as the left would say, Sun News is FOX NEWS NORTH!!!eleventy!11!!!) to Ezra Levant's show with guest Matthew Vadum

http://tinyurl.com/d7oq844

Not sure how much it helps, but it's certainly more publicity.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at May 25, 2012 10:04 AM (V4JUZ)

132 Ok, this whole thing is beyond creepy. Ace, stay safe.

Posted by: Lauren at May 25, 2012 10:04 AM (bV8xV)

133

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at May 25, 2012 01:35 PM (8y9MW)

Lol, welcome to my average Twitter day.

Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at May 25, 2012 10:05 AM (CQ1cz)

134

Every inch of the congressional record is by definition a subject of public debate and discussion. Having the subject matter in the record makes subsequent law suits easier for those who might get caught in them.

OK, perry mason. The "congressional record" is meaningless. If he's suing for defamation, it's either true or it isn't. If it is, he has no case. And if he's suing over speech activities, many jurisdictions will allow a special anti-SLAPP (strategic lawsuit against public participation) motion to dismiss that gives the sued party attorney fees if the case is dismissed at that point. Depends entirely on the jurisdiction. NY is not so good, Illinois is better, California is great.

The only thing "reading it into the cong record" will do is possibly help with BK's public figure status, of which there isn't really much doubt. He's a public figure and has to prove actual malice for defamation.

ace and other bloggers stand a good chance of winning any anti-SLAPP motions and getting fees where available if they are sued. But going through it is a nightmare, no matter what.

I'm one moron who gives ace crap when he gets too worked up about stuff. He's not getting too worked up about this. Be cool.

Posted by: imp at May 25, 2012 10:06 AM (UaxA0)

135 So should we post recipes?

Posted by: Jones in CO at May 25, 2012 10:06 AM (8sCoq)

136

Vaguely reminds me of what happened to an American sports talk radio figure a couple years ago. This guy, Steven Cohen said some things about what he believed caused a stadium crush two decades ago and these Liverpool fans started hounding him. The thing is, there is over 60 Million Liverpool fans, so even 1% of that number is a huge number. They didn't like him saying that he thought fan misbehavior and ticketless fans were part of what started the crush instead of laying the entire blame on the Police/stadium security. They sent death threats to his email, death threats to his stepkids on Facebook and Myspace, death threats throught the mail, and then got organized by some supporter groups and started emailing every single sponsor/advertiser promising they would boycott. His bank was routinely calling to let him know someone had attempted to access his accounts online but had not been able to figure out the passwords. One member of a supporters group leading the boycott was also a "journalist" for some Business publication and they wrote incredibly one-sided stories about the nobel boycott and didn't mention that they were affiliated with the supporter's group. The sponsers, including Hieneken all pulled out leaving his show on Sirius XM dead in the water. He left Sirius and went to a podcast format which they said was all they wanted (he would be gone from Sirus XM). Then when ESPN let it be known a couple years later they were going to hire him to put together a podcast for them they were flooded with over a million emails threatening a boycott (which is actually more effective in England as ESPN is a subscription chanel there, not a basic cable package chanel).

Not the same thing... but I wonder which is worse, having one completely psychotic person with a vendetta and a violent history going after you or a few hundred thousand people willing to email every perspective employer you will ever have and the knowlege that there has to be a few mentally unstable ones in that large number willing to physically assault you?

Posted by: Marco at May 25, 2012 10:06 AM (WdTrT)

137 For the record: United States Court of Appeals, Sixth Circuit. Docket No. 92-6084 http://is.gd/B8TM6W After being convicted of the bombings and related offenses, Kimberlin was sentenced to a fifty-year term of imprisonment for manufacturing and possessing a destructive device, and malicious damage by explosives with personal injury in violation of 26 U.S.C. Â§Â§ 5861(d) and (f), and 18 U.S.C. Â§Â§ 844(f) and (i). He received a concurrent twelve-year sentence for impersonating a federal officer, illegal use of a Department of Defense insignia, and illegal use of the Presidential Seal in violation of 18 U.S.C. Â§Â§ 912, 701, and 713, respectively, and a five-year term for receipt of explosives by a convicted felon in violation of 18 U.S.C. Â§ 842(i)(1). Finally, he was given a four-year sentence by the United States District Court for the Southern District of Texas on an earlier, unrelated conviction for conspiracy to distribute marijuana.1

Posted by: toby928© at May 25, 2012 10:06 AM (NG097)

138 @134 I would like to see the books for these 'charities,' however. ---- You can download their 990s, which details their expenses, assets, and disbursements, at Foundation Center. BK's Justice Through Music one has few assets (recent years). It's 990 is short. I glanced at it, but not investigated it. Tides Foundation ($16 million in assets in 2010) 990 takes many minutes to download. Absolutely huge. Another route that may work is to make a small donation to one or both. As a donor, that MAY entitle you to greater access to their records. I've heard of donors asking to see files not normally accessible, but never for this sort of reason -- and I do not know if the charity is legally bound to open all of their books.

Posted by: Y-not at May 25, 2012 10:07 AM (5H6zj)

139 I'm astonished to learn that a convicted felon can be an officer or principal of a 501(c)(3).

There was a time when a felony conviction stripped you of more civil rights than just the franchise.

I'd like to see a return to that. How can a violent felon and perjurer hold a position of trust?

Posted by: xbradtc at May 25, 2012 10:09 AM (LouEe)

140 >>So I don't have to close all my Fidelity accounts, right? No, I really don't think you should. In fact, if you thin about it, at least Fidelity spoke with Breitbart/Big Gov AND they are the only ones who admitted to having heard news reports about BK. So to me that just reaffirms what I already knew, they are kind of "conservative."

Posted by: Y-not at May 25, 2012 10:09 AM (5H6zj)

141 130 Canadian conservative TV is covering this because of Tides funding leftist and Red-enviro groups in Canada: Wow, I am surprised! 136 Question - wouldn't someone like the person in question have a parole officer along with conditions of parole? In a comment on another blog, he got some kind of quid pro quo from Clinton during Clinton's re-election campaign. Perhaps that cut out the middle man, the parole officer, or maybe enough time has passed he nom longer has one. At any rate, there doesn't seem to be anything restraining him (which is very, very scary).

Posted by: runningrn at May 25, 2012 10:10 AM (WGmy2)

142 145 I'm astonished to learn that a convicted felon can be an officer or principal of a 501(c)(3). ---- Serious question: can they be mayors? governors? Congressmen?

Posted by: Y-not at May 25, 2012 10:10 AM (5H6zj)

143 IIRC (years of funemployment have made me rusty on this stuff) every non-profit has to file a detailed annual report, sort of like a corporate filing. They do not have to "publish" it, per se, but they have to make it available.

Posted by: Y-not at May 25, 2012 10:12 AM (5H6zj)

144 148 145 I'm astonished to learn that a convicted felon can be an officer or principal of a 501(c)(3). ---- Serious question: can they be mayors? governors? Congressmen? Baby, we can be Mayor and City Councilman (wink, wink!)

Posted by: Marion Barry at May 25, 2012 10:12 AM (WGmy2)

145 trying their hardest to make some nobody into the greatest hitler on the left. ‪#shrug‬ ‪#SlowNewsDay

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2012 01:26 PM (Y+DPZ)

i had thought one of the group of 3 men harrassing stacy and patterico used to write at Kos?

was banned?

Patterico :

Rauhauser compiled a large packet of defamatory material accusing me, Walker, Nagy, and others of participating in criminal activity, and said he had sent it to state police in New Jersey and the FBI in Baltimore. He made the entire packet available as a torrent.

Writing as Stranded Wind at Daily Kos (where he has since been banned), Rauhauser insinuated that I had obtained forged documentation during the course of my employment to support claims by shadowy Internet entity John Reid:

Posted by: willow at May 25, 2012 10:12 AM (TomZ9)

146 I would like to see the books for these 'charities,' however. I'd like to see if they meet a reasonable threshold of expenditure for altruistic purposes, or any at all.

Somebody posted a link to his "Justice Through Music" filing yesterday. It was very vague (and in my opinion a little bit fishy), but claiming that almost all the money they took in was spent on publishing / material costs.

It also claimed that Kimberlin works 40 hours a week for the charity, but was compensated less than $20,000.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 25, 2012 10:12 AM (SY2Kh)

147 I don't know about Mayors or Governors (those would be under state constitutions) but there is no reason a convicted felon can't be elected to the House, Senate, or the VP or President. The Constitution lays out the requirements for those jobs, and no additional restrictions are allowed.

Posted by: xbradtc at May 25, 2012 10:14 AM (LouEe)

148 >>>If it is, he has no case.

That isn't really relevant, and if you were following this closer you would know that. Defending yourself in court is time consuming and/or costly.

Defense of both harassment and defamation becomes LESS time consuming, and LESS costly if the matter were read into the congressional record.

That's what we are talking about here.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at May 25, 2012 10:14 AM (0q2P7)

149 It also claimed that Kimberlin works 40 hours a week for the charity, but was compensated less than $20,000. ***** Yeah, like my ex-stepfather who owned a drywall construction company but only paid himself $500 a week. Uh huh.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 25, 2012 10:14 AM (piMMO)

150 Just read the long post at Patterico's site and skimmed Worthing's. As a professional who has had to experience the ugly side of scurrilous lawsuits and frustration with the reality that is our legal system, you and the other targeted bloggers are in my thoughts and prayers. As difficult as it will be, realize this will pass and you are doing the right thing. Trust your legal council no matter how slow and frustratingly impotent it all seems. Try not to lose sleep over it. You were targeted because you are good at what you do...because your talent for telling the truth brings you readers, which has made you a powerful voice that scares some powerful and/or extremely ideological people. Thank you for all you do. If what I've read is true, Kimberline and his buddies need to be behind bars. Commenters, please respect that this is no joke for a silly ONT...this is Ace's life.

Posted by: MostlyRight at May 25, 2012 10:15 AM (ZG8Ti)

151 Baby, we can be Mayor and City Councilman (wink, wink!) ***** Put down the crack pip, Marion!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 25, 2012 10:15 AM (piMMO)

152 I don't know about Mayors or Governors (those would be under state constitutions) but there is no reason a convicted felon can't be elected to the House, Senate, or the VP or President. The Constitution lays out the requirements for those jobs, and no additional restrictions are allowed. ******* It was a Marion Barry sock

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 25, 2012 10:16 AM (piMMO)

153 there is no reason a convicted felon can't be elected to the House, Senate, or the VP or President They just can't vote for themselves in most states.

Posted by: toby928© at May 25, 2012 10:18 AM (NG097)

154

#24, just as a general rule, we've talked a lot of shit here for years about how conservatives keep turning the other cheek and lose a lot of fights as a result.

So, hypothetically, if some dickhead on the Left likes to out people, how is it therefore unfair to leave the address of his mother's basement somewhere online where someone might find it?

Posted by: SGT Dan at May 25, 2012 10:18 AM (jCQ+I)

155 Serious question: can they be mayors? governors? Congressmen? ***** Ahem....West Virginia Democratic Primary

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 25, 2012 10:19 AM (piMMO)

156 #24, just as a general rule, we've talked a lot of shit here for years about how conservatives keep turning the other cheek and lose a lot of fights as a result. So, hypothetically, if some dickhead on the Left likes to out people, how is it therefore unfair to leave the address of his mother's basement somewhere online where someone might find it? ***** Not turning the other cheek and resorting to their gutter-level tactics are two different things entirely.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 25, 2012 10:20 AM (piMMO)

157 I did some cursory checking into the Fidelity Charitable Fund. It looks like most of it came from other philanthropic foundations.

It's almost like someone was trying to hide the donations

Posted by: Albie Damned at May 25, 2012 10:25 AM (Yhu4q)

158 I was unaware of Google Scholar http://is.gd/Y7WEEc

Posted by: toby928© at May 25, 2012 10:25 AM (NG097)

159 I have no earthly idea WTF is going on.

Posted by: tc at May 25, 2012 10:28 AM (wb4qc)

160 In a comment on another blog, he got some kind of quid pro quo from Clinton during Clinton's re-election campaign. Perhaps that cut out the middle man, the parole officer, or maybe enough time has passed he nom longer has one. At any rate, there doesn't seem to be anything restraining him (which is very, very scary).

Posted by: runningrn at May 25, 2012 02:10 PM (WGmy2)

I can't tell you how absolutely *shocked* I am to find out that Slick has some role in this whole sordid mess.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 25, 2012 10:29 AM (ugr8V)

161 Hang in there Ace!

Posted by: Brian at May 25, 2012 10:31 AM (UnMRd)

162

Defense of both harassment and defamation becomes LESS time consuming, and LESS costly if the matter were read into the congressional record.

No, it doesn't Mike.

A motion to dismiss is based on the pleadings. I'm assuming jailhouse Esq knows how to file a dismissal proof complaint. Only in jurisdictions with anti-SLAPP provisions broad enough to cover this kind of thing will allow a dismisssal on evidence outside the complaint. Otherwise, it's a slog to summary judgment whether or not it's in some "congressional record." Reading it on the floor of congress makes it no more or less true or false. If he's a public figure, it's easier to defend. BK is already a public figure. Nothing about "reading " his history in congress makes a whit of difference.

Gleen Grunwald did not become gospel truth when he was "read on the floor of the senate" or whatever such nonsense it was.

Posted by: imp at May 25, 2012 10:34 AM (UaxA0)

163 "Give pause to join the fray". That is part of the problem, we too often give pause. I sincerely believe that if we do not join the fray, it will be too late, or, the fray will be so large we`ll all be in it. Nothing against you NDH, we are neighbors. (Of course you have to use the how far is over yonder distance equation).

Posted by: rightlysouthern (aim low boys, they`re ridin shetland ponies) at May 25, 2012 10:48 AM (sqzvk)

164 What the heck is this all about. If you don't want our help, don't allow comments. Problem solved.

Posted by: Dogbert at May 25, 2012 10:58 AM (CFshT)

165 Wow, business takes me away from the innertubes for a day and all hell breaks loose. Don't mean to sound flippant here, but it's gonna take me a bit to get caught up.

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at May 25, 2012 11:13 AM (IlZPo)

166 Is this something we can start a 501c3 for? The purpose would be to use the money to support first ammendment rights and defend those under attack in cases like this. I would be pleased to use before-tax money for this and screw the leftards in a legitimate play.

Posted by: Jay Bee at May 25, 2012 11:15 AM (6W8+8)

167 91 @83: Read Patterico's post. It'll get you up to speed very quickly, including how Ace got dragged into this.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 25, 2012 01:44 PM (tqwMN)

Good stuff. Everyone needs to read this.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC at May 25, 2012 11:24 AM (dM8c9)

168 After you read Patterico and McCain, you will understand why Ace wants Congressional light shone on this. It is necessary.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC at May 25, 2012 11:26 AM (dM8c9)

169 103 Reading his criminal history into the congressional record will stop him how?

It would make it easier to have the nuisance cases he brings dismissed. It would help disarm him.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at May 25, 2012 01:48 PM (8y9MW)

Additionally, he's wired into the DNC (and probably a Dem congressperson or two) and hiding behind a tax-exempt entity.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC at May 25, 2012 11:31 AM (dM8c9)

170 152 I would like to see the books for these 'charities,' however. I'd like
to see if they meet a reasonable threshold of expenditure for altruistic
purposes, or any at all.

Somebody posted a link to his "Justice Through Music" filing yesterday. It was very vague (and in my opinion a little bit fishy), but claiming that almost all the money they took in was spent on publishing / material costs.

It also claimed that Kimberlin works 40 hours a week for the charity, but was compensated less than $20,000.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 25, 2012 02:12 PM (SY2Kh)

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He keeps his ...ahem....."funds" off the grid, so to speak. Learned that from a lawyer back in the late 70's. Only wrote two checks a year (both for taxes) and never kept more than his tax liability in a bank, plus around 10% or so.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC at May 25, 2012 11:37 AM (dM8c9)

171 Ace - You and the others that have been dragged into this morass of filth and deprivation are brave individuals... true patriots that are protecting our right to free speech and revealing the truth.

I am just a moron who is out of work... my funds are extremely tight, but you have my support in this fight. I wish there was something more I could do in your endeavor against people that believe defamation and harassment are the only way to prove their point of view and hide the truth.

Posted by: Satan's Barbed Schnitzengruber at May 25, 2012 11:42 AM (Jls4P)

172

ace and other bloggers stand a good chance of winning any anti-SLAPP motions and getting fees where available if they are sued. But going through it is a nightmare, no matter what.

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That's the whole point.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC at May 25, 2012 11:43 AM (dM8c9)

173 To clarify, FIDELITY INVESTMENTS CHARITABLE GIFT FUND has donated bo MMfA, but this is not the same thing as FIDELITY INVESTMENTS. FICGF is a separate entity and you can CHOOSE to make donations to this fund (and to recommend how the fund is granted). I'm not saying that this makes Fidelity Investments clean on this topic, but it should be made clear that individuals donate money to the gift fund and that's what goes to MMfA. MMfA is not getting proceeds from money Fidelity Investments makes off of your 401K or IRA.

Posted by: Delaware Blue at May 25, 2012 11:54 AM (RwpbN)

174 Good luck with this Ace. Also, please let us know if there are officials (like prosecutors) in a particular jurisdiction who need to hear from the public. I've already requested my rep in Congress to support tougher oversight of these 501(c)(3) orgs. This intimidation needs to stop.

Posted by: Bystander at May 25, 2012 11:56 AM (/sohm)

175 Where have you been all week? Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at May 25, 2012 01:36 PM (0q2P7) Working. You?

Posted by: Jim Treacher at May 25, 2012 11:59 AM (X3KAb)

176 You who is a tough cookie? Michelle Malkin, thats who will run with this til the wheels fall off! Sean Hannity likes Michelle to he has her on frequently. Michelle has been recieving death threats for years. One of her nieces went missing too! hmmm

Posted by: sonnyspats at May 25, 2012 12:15 PM (Qr9Rc)

177 What was wrong with Markos' response is that he minimizes what this guy has done but he still claims him as being part of the left. That is why he feels the need to minimize it because he feels a kinship to Kimberlin. If it were not so he would do what any of us would do with someone on our side using these tactics and disavow the guy while condemning him in the harshest of terms.

Markos doesn't even realize what a transparent POS he is. Everything in life is not a partisan game.

Posted by: Voluble at May 25, 2012 12:17 PM (c8WV/)

178

Mark Alexander with The Patriot Post is on this story also:

http://tinyurl.com/85nw7vc

He's got a great e-mail newsletter by the way.

Posted by: Max Entropy at May 25, 2012 12:18 PM (nHd52)

179 Markos doesn't even realize what a transparent POS he is. Everything in life is not a partisan game. Posted by: Voluble at May 25, 2012 04:17 PM (c8WV/) That's Markos "Screw Them" Zuniga to you!

Posted by: Counterproductive KosTard at May 25, 2012 12:43 PM (bxiXv)

180 I normally would oppose Congressional action in something like this (except maybe some general 501 issues), but local law enforcement seems committed to allowing this to continue in multiple jurisdictions. Which is pretty foul. You would think they would want to know who was summoning SWAT teams with fake 911 calls, at the very least, but apparently not.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 25, 2012 12:44 PM (bxiXv)

181 I don't know if anyone else has seen this, but it looks like Sen. Hatch is intimately familiar with Kimberlin and his tactics. Hatch might be a good way to push action on Kimberlin at a higher level since the local LEOs and FBI are sitting on their hands.

Posted by: Cortillaen at May 25, 2012 01:41 PM (3muKk)

182 The link didn't take for some reason:
http://bit.ly/MNvYdE

Posted by: Cortillaen at May 25, 2012 01:52 PM (3muKk)

183 Re: getting legislative help Don't be suprised when establishment hack GOP types prove remarkably unhelpful. Having someone neutralize troublesome (read independent and uppity Tea Party types) bloggers while being able to decry the result would be like Christmas in July. Or, in this case, May. Of course, from a personal perspective, no one coming to help is something I just might find a moment's amusement in. For some reason.

Posted by: Dog eat dog world at May 25, 2012 03:10 PM (Qp2GE)

184 It's "God's sake," not "God's sakes," for God's sake.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 25, 2012 03:37 PM (mdhVr)

185 Damnit. Someone beat me to the Ron Jeremy joke. Oh well. Well played.

Posted by: Hoss at May 25, 2012 03:52 PM (jl+A/)

186 What about that H.L. Mencken quote on the masthead? Does that provide any guidance at a time like this?

Posted by: Kevin C. at May 25, 2012 04:57 PM (a55Ts)

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