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October 23, 2012

Horse Platitudes, or Barack On Through To The Other Side
— Jack M.

So, this morning we awaken to find out that Team Barry's narcissistic obsession with memes that begin with the letter B (Binders, Big Bird) now encompasses "bayonets."

This meme was birthed (another B word, since that's all Barry can seem to remember) during an exchange the soon-to-be-ex-president had with Gov. Romney in last night's debate. As you'll recall, Gov. Romney had just schooled Obama on the fact that under his watch the United States Navy has fewer ships now than it did in 1916.

This fact prompted the man who is about 2 weeks away from planning his presidential library to respond thusly:

Obama snarked that Â“we also have fewer horses and bayonets, because the nature of our militaryÂ’s changed.Â”

I only know of one place in which this assertion by President Obama is true: Benghazi. We certainly didn't have any bayonets there. Then again, Benghazi is the only B-word that Team Barry seems to have trouble talking about.

Instead, the president's comment was just another platitude: an empty statement made as if meaningful. And, thanks to Jim Morrison, I now have a handy go-to term for the president's statements:

I simply refer to them as being Horse Platitudes. I decided to do a little research this morning. (Very little, I'm lazy, and I don't have nearly the staff that the President of the United States does). And look what I found on the first website I visited, which just so happens to be the official website of the United States Marine Corps:

From 500 yards, every Marine is accurate with a rifle. Attach the OKC-3S Bayonet, and the weapon becomes just as effective in close combat situations. Also a Marine's multi-purpose fighting knife, the OKC-3S is the weapon of choice when shots can't be fired. Every Marine receives bayonet training in the Marine Corps Martial Arts Program (MCMAP) and on the Bayonet Assault Course in Recruit Training.

In addition, Ben linked an article in his news dump this morning that states the following:

But horses and bayonets both remain vital parts of the U.S. arsenal.

The Daily Caller won a prestigious Edward R. Murrow award this year for a war report about the American soldiers who Â— riding on horseback Â— were the first U.S. forces to fight in Afghanistan after the 9/11 terror attacks. (RELATED VIDEO: Secret mission: The Horse Soldiers of 9/11)

And bayonets remain a fixture in Army infantry training and deployment. On August 6 a blogger at the Gizmodo technology website reported that the military was trading in bayonets for a Â“tomahawkÂ”-like hand-to-hand combat weapon, but it later emerged that the source of that erroneous report was Duffelblog Â— a military spoof website modeled on The Onion.

Ahh...that Barry...don't you love it when the Commander-in-Chief gets his military info from a source with all the same level of rigorous fact-checking and subject matter expertese as....The Onion?

I had another thought when I watched this last night. Barry doesn't much care for the ships that are built in Virginia. And Biden pretty much said we don't need M-1 tanks built in Ohio anymore. And, bayonets are just so passe...unless DARPA is working on a Strategic Unicorn Skittles Bombing Drone, I'm not sure there is a single weapons system out there that will pass muster with this mal-Administration.

But Barry did "win" a Nobel Peace Prize. So he's got that going for him. Which is nice.

Anyway, to keep my string of pop-culture posts intact, I'm including a user-made mash up of the Doors' "Horse Latitudes/Moonlight Drive" video for your amusement/horror.

After 4 years of the Obozo regime, I now understand fully what Jim Morrison meant by his "mute nostril agony" lyric. I feel it everytime Obama issues another one of his Horse Platitudes.

Feel free to follow me on Twitter. I'm @jackmcoldcuts, and I freaking rock.

Posted by: Jack M. at 06:09 AM | Comments (157)
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1 first

Posted by: perdogg at October 23, 2012 06:33 AM (oSdsj)

2 Second?

And Obama is a Stammering Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure.

Posted by: dawnfire at October 23, 2012 06:34 AM (eEeH7)

3 "B" word he is - Son of a B

But that's a word Ace asked us not to use.

Posted by: Vic at October 23, 2012 06:35 AM (YdQQY)

4 If Barry knew anything about weapons, he'd know that the Assault Weapons Ban listed a bayonet lug as one of the evil features present on M4s and civilian MForgeries to be subject to the banning.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at October 23, 2012 06:35 AM (mg08E)

5 Best. Thread. Title. Ever.

Posted by: rickl at October 23, 2012 06:35 AM (zoehZ)

6 Horse (shit) Platitudes.

Posted by: maddogg at October 23, 2012 06:35 AM (OlN4e)

7 SalenaZito @SalenaZitoTrib Political /pundit class not impressed with Romney.But those 500 votes dont win elections-Main Street was pleased & their votes do.

Posted by: Evilpens at October 23, 2012 06:36 AM (ck76k)

8 There are 400,000 OKC-3S in the US Military today. One could say, we have binders of bayonets.

Posted by: perdogg at October 23, 2012 06:36 AM (oSdsj)

Let's not forget that in addition to telling VA that ships are no longer necessary, Obama told Colorado that the Air Force is useless and Florida that the space program is over.

Yes, its hard to believe that the same administration that showed off Russian naval ships to show its support for the military is really not all that for the military at all. But he got BIN LADEN - another B word.

The Obama campaign: Big Bird, Binders, Bayonetes and Bin Laden. A poet's dream.

Posted by: SH at October 23, 2012 06:37 AM (gmeXX)

10 The corpse man told me that we don't need our bayonets anymore so I stuck mine in Hillary Clinton's back.

Posted by: Private No Class Obama at October 23, 2012 06:37 AM (SzAZ7)

11 I don't really have a problem with Oblameo saying the military's needs have changed and they don't want horses and bayonets anymore. But they did ask for these sea vessels to maintain preparedness, and they aren't going to get them under this Administration.

I want a Prez that will provide our military with what they say they need in order to be successful, whether it's destroyers, subs, or bayonets--if they say that's what they need.

Posted by: CausticConservative at October 23, 2012 06:37 AM (gT3jF)

12 B___B what begins with B Big Bird, Binders, Bayonets and Barack BBB.

Posted by: President Sesame Street at October 23, 2012 06:37 AM (tf9Ne)

13 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 23, 2012 06:37 AM (8y9MW)

14 (from FB) I still remember my bayonet training. My favorite command was: "Butt stroke to the head, with a slashing series...move!" And, "What are two type of bayonet fighters?....The Quick, and the Dead...What are you?...The Quick...What are they?...The Dead....What makes me grass grow?....Blood, blood, blood."

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 23, 2012 06:37 AM (GeD0A)

15 The Obama campaign: Big Bird, Binders, Bayonetes and Bin Laden. A poet's dream. Posted by: SH at October 23, 2012 10:37 AM (gmeXX) Bimbos (Sarah Fluke)

Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 23, 2012 06:38 AM (136wp)

16 http://tinyurl.com/9textv5 Barack Obama Attacks, Mitt Romney Moderates in Final Debate Title tells you all you need to know who the media knows is winning the election

Posted by: Evilpens at October 23, 2012 06:39 AM (ck76k)

17 Obama just says things because he likes the way it sounds - not because it's true.

He's a poet.

Posted by: Dang© at October 23, 2012 06:39 AM (R18D0)

18 But that's a word Ace asked us not to use. On the other hand, Bastard is completely accurate.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at October 23, 2012 06:39 AM (QupBk)

19 I forgot about that! We are so short on sea faring vessels, we use Russian ones as political backdrops!

Posted by: CausticConservative at October 23, 2012 06:39 AM (gT3jF)

20 Great post; Great title. Thanks.

Posted by: FeneloonSpoke at October 23, 2012 06:39 AM (u1lkY)

21 TFG really is the Platonic ideal of clueless jackasses, isn't he?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. We're not worthy. at October 23, 2012 06:39 AM (Gk3SS)

22 Barry's living proof that there are more horse's asses than horses.

Posted by: jim at October 23, 2012 06:39 AM (KR/2V)

23 Strange Days have found us. The Changeling door man is about to meet The End. He better hope that the Riders On The Storm don't turn him into The Unknown Soldier.

Posted by: The Lizard King at October 23, 2012 06:39 AM (e0xKF)

I don't really have a problem with Oblameo saying the military's needs have changed and they don't want horses and bayonets anymore.

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This line might of work if he actually gave an argument for modernizing the military. But it was simply in response to Mitt's desire to build a bigger Navy. Obama's idea of a modernized Navy is an aircraft carrier that runs on corn.

Posted by: SH at October 23, 2012 06:40 AM (gmeXX)

25 2 Things to keep in mind, #1 Keep your horses away from the French and Your either in the meeting or on the menu.

Posted by: Clemenza at October 23, 2012 06:40 AM (afx6B)

26 Posted by: President Sesame Street at October 23, 2012 10:37 AM (tf9Ne)

Dude. Sesame Street got nothin' on Dr. Seuss.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 23, 2012 06:40 AM (8y9MW)

27 whoop! Obama Win-ded dat deebait !

Posted by: Honey Boo Boo at October 23, 2012 06:40 AM (EZl54)

28 Okay, it is true that as technology changes, we have less of one thing and more of another, the point that the President lamely was trying to make. I get it. But he is trying to say we don't need ships in numbers beyond our WWI fleet because of SCIENCE!!! But it was a snarky response to a statement chock full of substance: R: Our Navy is old Â— excuse me, our Navy is smaller now than at any time since 1917. The Navy said they needed 313 ships to carry out their mission. We're now at under 285. We're headed down to the low 200s if we go through a sequestration. That's unacceptable to me. Snark makes Maddow hard and Kos wet, but that's about as far as it goes.

Posted by: Golan Globus at October 23, 2012 06:40 AM (7vSU0)

29 Obama snarked that Â“we also have fewer horses and bayonets, because the nature of our militaryÂ’s changed.Â” uhhh...no. The toys just get more expensive, doucherocket.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at October 23, 2012 06:40 AM (TT0X5)

30 I'm sticking with my 52/48 prediction R/R.

Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 23, 2012 06:40 AM (136wp)

31
If Barry knew anything about weapons, he'd know that the Assault Weapons Ban listed a bayonet lug as one of the evil features present on M4s and civilian MForgeries to be subject to the banning.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at October 23, 2012 10:35 AM (mg08E)

Yeah. I remember that horrible epidemic of drive-by bayonetings in the early 90s. Chilling.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 23, 2012 06:41 AM (TIIx5)

32 54-45 with 1% to fringe.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at October 23, 2012 06:41 AM (QupBk)

33 30 I'm sticking with my 52/48 prediction R/R. --- I'm thinking it will be a little more dramatic. Low turnout by Dims may make it closer to 55-45 because it will be clear long before Election Day that Barry Cakeboy is gone.

Posted by: Brandon in Baton Rouge at October 23, 2012 06:41 AM (e0xKF)

34 Here's another "B" word for Omaha: Bye-bye!

Posted by: CarolLK at October 23, 2012 06:42 AM (2mYTU)

35 Horse Latitudes......... Damn, when was the last time I got stoned?

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at October 23, 2012 06:42 AM (TT0X5)

I used to tell Jimmy, words have meanings. You can't get just throw them around irresponsibly and expect other people will understand you. Sure, crowds might roar for a while, enjoying the sound of it. But if there's nothing real there...not enough stout Navay ships behind all the blather, you might say...things can go wrong quickly. In Benghazi, as in Paris.

Posted by: Adm George Morrison at October 23, 2012 06:43 AM (EjgHh)

37 You will sense the lizard and know that I AM.

Posted by: King Barry of the Lizard at October 23, 2012 06:43 AM (/ZZCn)

For a guy who has suppossedly won the past two debates, Obama sure knows how to make some enemies. First he gets the NRA off their butt, now he has basically told VA that he will decimate one of their primary sources of jobs.

Remind me again how this guy has good polticial instincts.

Posted by: SH at October 23, 2012 06:43 AM (gmeXX)

39 For his next speech, Obama channels Dwight:

"Bears, beets, Battlestar Galactica."

Posted by: red sweater at October 23, 2012 06:43 AM (Xwgt3)

40 So I am working on my "Dear 48" letter to ensure that we have a spirit of comity after this election. Let me know how this sounds: Dear 48: No hard feelings. Enjoy your time in the camps. Fuckwads. Love, 52

Posted by: Golan Globus at October 23, 2012 06:43 AM (7vSU0)

41 35 Horse Latitudes......... Damn, when was the last time I got stoned? --- Not recent enough. Everybody MUST get stoned occasionally.

Posted by: Robert Zimmerman at October 23, 2012 06:43 AM (e0xKF)

42 14 days to go.

Posted by: eman at October 23, 2012 06:43 AM (+XD7n)

43 now he has basically told VA that he will decimate one of their primary sources of jobs.

Doesn't Cali make a fair number of naval vessels as well?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 23, 2012 06:44 AM (8y9MW)

44 Remind me again how this guy has good polticial instincts. --- It's an informed ability, like his debating skills and public speaking skills.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 23, 2012 06:44 AM (e0xKF)

45 if Barry knew anything about weapons, he'd know that the Assault Weapons Ban listed a bayonet lug as one of the evil features present on M4s and civilian MForgeries to be subject to the banning. Posted by: Alec Leamas at October 23, 2012 10:35 AM (mg08 I'm still trying to figure out where to put the bayonet on this flamethrower.

Posted by: Chesty Puller. Never, a zombie. at October 23, 2012 06:44 AM (TT0X5)

46 Someone commented somewhere that Barky's comment about the Navy proves he has written off Virginia.

Posted by: Golan Globus at October 23, 2012 06:44 AM (7vSU0)

Romney needs to have an ad up today noting that a freakin' monument to the Special Forces "horse soldiers" of Afghanistan was just dedicated at Ground Zero in Manhattan last freakin' week!

Obama's supposedly brilliant snark was actually a monumental (pardon the pun) gaffe.

Posted by: The Regular Guy at October 23, 2012 06:44 AM (qHCyt)

48 Apparently the bambino is going to give the US Navy;s request for more ships the same consideration that he gave Amb Stevens request for more security.

Posted by: rabidfox at October 23, 2012 06:45 AM (Aiate)

49 That guy from NZ has it right. Obama wants to destroy the U.S. Military.

Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at October 23, 2012 06:45 AM (he2LC)

50 Of course, they have just unveiled the Afghanistan War statue near the WTC which shows a Special Forces soldier on a HORSE!

Posted by: Miss Marple at October 23, 2012 06:45 AM (GoIUi)

51 WHINNNNNNYYYY!!!

[seven hoof strikes]

Posted by: SJP at October 23, 2012 06:46 AM (h07X2)

52
now he has basically told VA that he will decimate one of their primary sources of jobs.

Posted by: SH at October 23, 2012 10:43 AM (gmeXX)

If JugEars McFuckstick wins reelection, VA will count itself lucky if they only endure a decimation of military contracts.

Personally, I think it'll be much worse than 10%.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 23, 2012 06:46 AM (TIIx5)

53 43 now he has basically told VA that he will decimate one of their primary sources of jobs. Doesn't Cali make a fair number of naval vessels as well? Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 23, 2012 10:44 AM (8y9MW) Not sure, anymore. They sure as hell used to.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at October 23, 2012 06:46 AM (TT0X5)

54 I used to tell Jimmy, words have meanings.

He's the post-modern President. No, words don't have meaning. They're just there to bolster whatever it is he wants to say today. Holding him to what he said is ridiculous.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. We're not worthy. at October 23, 2012 06:46 AM (Gk3SS)

55 "Bears, beets, Battlestar Galactica."

Boomer.

Posted by: EC at October 23, 2012 06:46 AM (GQ8sn)

56 Obama's snarky and nasty comment on bayonets was a horse dinger! What a way to show disrespect to our Military who clearly use the bayonets and when needed horses. The jerk should ask the actual MEN who had to use those bayonets in HAND TO HAND combat! I loved his "ships that go under water" you know what Obama....you are STILL CUTTING THOSE AS WELL! When the Navy says they need 313 ships and you gloat that 285 and decreasing is a good thing "because some ships go under water" it shows you how ignorant you are of the World and America's role in it. A diminished US in the world will only invite more terror, more unrest and more conflict. And a strong Navy with the capacities to protect the world's waterways is VITAL!! And again Obama tell the Marines that use those Bayonets how "outdated they are."

Posted by: bluerose75 at October 23, 2012 06:46 AM (HDcKc)

57 I said 53-47 early on for Romney. I'll stick with it. 300+ EVs.

Posted by: Honey Badger at October 23, 2012 06:46 AM (GvYeG)

58 Also, I am not sure that the warning on Always Sunny saying "for mature audiences" is correct.

Posted by: Golan Globus at October 23, 2012 06:46 AM (7vSU0)

59 WHINNNNNNYYYY!!!

[seven hoof strikes]

Posted by: SJP at October 23, 2012 10:46 AM (h07X2)

-----

Piker...

Posted by: John Elway at October 23, 2012 06:46 AM (C8hzL)

60 What is bad is that the Luntz focus group liked that answer

Posted by: jbwbubba at October 23, 2012 06:46 AM (BZcMK)

61 TFG never fails to make me feel mortified that he is President. He acts so immature and un Presidential. He is an embarrassment to this country.

Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at October 23, 2012 06:47 AM (fdnD9)

62 You know what da Zero would do with the military, given his druthers? He would bring the whole thing back to the U.S. and turn it on us. Thats what he'd do.

Posted by: maddogg at October 23, 2012 06:47 AM (OlN4e)

63 If JugEars McFuckstick wins reelection, VA will count itself lucky if they only endure a decimation of military contracts. Personally, I think it'll be much worse than 10%. --- He'll try to counter-balance those people by having lots of Maryland and DC residents move to NoVA and keep their same voting habits.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 23, 2012 06:47 AM (e0xKF)

64 The economy also goes underwater.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at October 23, 2012 06:47 AM (QupBk)

65 The way the JEF spoke about and lied to the military last night probably just cost him VA and CO

Posted by: Thunderb at October 23, 2012 06:47 AM (Dnbau)

66 53 43 now he has basically told VA that he will decimate one of their primary sources of jobs. Doesn't Cali make a fair number of naval vessels as well? Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 23, 2012 10:44 AM (8y9MW) Not sure, anymore. They sure as hell used to. --- What about Connecticut? I know their one naval base is a submarine one in Groton, but I think they have shipbuilding as well.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 23, 2012 06:48 AM (e0xKF)

67 D.M. Hawkins @HawkinsUSA If you "win" the debate, but it made people more likely to support your opponent, is that really a victory?

Posted by: Evilpens at October 23, 2012 06:48 AM (ck76k)

68 60 What is bad is that the Luntz focus group liked that answer Posted by: jbwbubba at October 23, 2012 10:46 AM (BZcMK) Low-information voters, have no idea what's going on... No background on what TFG is doing...

Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 23, 2012 06:48 AM (136wp)

69 64 The economy also goes underwater.

Posted by: toby928Â© for TB at October 23, 2012 10:47 AM (QupBk)

But does it have a screen door?

Posted by: red sweater at October 23, 2012 06:49 AM (Xwgt3)

70 I am bringing back the Battleships! ..and the ships that go under water. We still got those right?

Posted by: Admiral Rear-entry O'Barkenbutt at October 23, 2012 06:49 AM (TT0X5)

71 The bandit from Banff-fff-ff...

Posted by: Corporal Agarn at October 23, 2012 06:49 AM (GeD0A)

72 HAs anyone asked Sarah Jessica Parker her opinion on Barry's horse quip yet?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 23, 2012 06:49 AM (tf9Ne)

73 If you "win" the debate, but it made people more likely to support your opponent, is that really a victory?

Any more victories like that, and we'll lose the war.

Posted by: Some Ancient Greek Dude at October 23, 2012 06:49 AM (8y9MW)

Obama gave several instances as to why he is to the beta male mind, and how it affects are foreign policy. Bayonets, where you actually have to look the enemy in the eye, bad. Drones, that make killing simple and easy, good. is view of supporting Israel is to remind us that Israel was a victim during WWII. Actually standing by your allies and supporting them against

Posted by: SH at October 23, 2012 06:49 AM (gmeXX)

75 65 The way the JEF spoke about and lied to the military last night probably just cost him VA and CO --- I think he'd already written them off before this. His strategy at this point appears to be running a prevent defense in Ohio, which may keep him that state but lose him a bunch of others in the process.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 23, 2012 06:49 AM (e0xKF)

76 Obama = A platitudinous pile of pigeon poop.

Posted by: Punahou Death Stare at October 23, 2012 06:49 AM (sTS/8)

77 72 HAs anyone asked Sarah Jessica Parker her opinion on Barry's horse quip yet? --- Nay.

Posted by: Sarah Jessica Parker at October 23, 2012 06:50 AM (e0xKF)

78 69 64 The economy also goes underwater. Posted by: toby928Â© for TB at October 23, 2012 10:47 AM (QupBk) She'll go right to the bottom if we don't stop her.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at October 23, 2012 06:50 AM (TT0X5)

79 Good lord, it doesn't feel like it's just 10 AM. Feels like it should be time to go home...

In some ways, I hate slow days worse than too busy ones.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 23, 2012 06:51 AM (8y9MW)

80 Mitt should have retorted to Obama's line about Battleship, that he played Stratego.

Posted by: SH at October 23, 2012 06:51 AM (gmeXX)

81 The Democrats would have no problem with the Chinese conquering all of North America as long as Social Security checks still went out.

Posted by: eman at October 23, 2012 06:52 AM (+XD7n)

82 I have a funny feeling that TFG lost the vote of every Ingalls employee.

Posted by: Ed Anger at October 23, 2012 06:53 AM (tOkJB)

83 Pretty sneaky, sis...

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 23, 2012 06:53 AM (GeD0A)

84 Just words...just speeches.

Posted by: dananjcon at October 23, 2012 06:53 AM (eavT+)

I don't know that our military staff in the Pentagon have been requesting extra bayonettes and horses. However they have been screaming for more ships and the hardware that goes on ships.

A childish fucking response, but it resonates with those non-thinkers whom we label "undecided voters".

Posted by: pendejo grande at October 23, 2012 06:54 AM (OZW5B)

86 She'll go right to the bottom if we don't stop her. Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at October 23, 2012 10:50 AM

On the other hand, when Choom Boy is finally -- after four horrifying years -- broomed out of office, the defense industry is going to be busy as hell replacing all the materiel resources thrown away by this America-hating regime.

Once again, those who know the value of bayonets and boats will be in charge.

Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at October 23, 2012 06:54 AM (ZgX/g)

87 TFG is sending the economy to Davey Jone's locker.

Posted by: Ed Anger at October 23, 2012 06:54 AM (tOkJB)

88 73 If you "win" the debate, but it made people more likely to support your opponent, is that really a victory? Any more victories like that, and we'll lose the war. Posted by: Some Ancient Greek Dude at October 23, 2012 10:49 AM (8y9MW) King Pyrrhus of Epirus, "Another such victory and I come back to Epirus alone", or "If we are victorious in one more battle with the Romans, we shall be utterly ruined."

Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 23, 2012 06:54 AM (136wp)

89 What about Connecticut? I know their one naval base is a submarine one in Groton, but I think they have shipbuilding as well. Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 23, 2012 10:48 AM (e0xKF) General Dynamics Electric Boat is still there.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at October 23, 2012 06:54 AM (TT0X5)

90 Obama snarked that Â“we also have fewer horses and bayonets, because the nature of our militaryÂ’s changed.Â”

.

Because Field Marshall Barry is such an expert on the military that he can lecture anyone on it. Someone should tell him that going to the Rear Admiral bar is not military experience

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 23, 2012 06:55 AM (1Jaio)

91 Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 23, 2012 10:54 AM (136wp)

Yeah. That was the joke.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 23, 2012 06:55 AM (8y9MW)

92 I don't think CA has had major military shipbuilding since kaiser shipyards were shut down at the end of WWII.

Hell, we are lucky they still have navy bases in CA.

Posted by: Vic at October 23, 2012 06:56 AM (YdQQY)

93 91 Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 23, 2012 10:54 AM (136wp) Yeah. That was the joke. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 23, 2012 10:55 AM (8y9MW) Joke, joke, what is joke?

Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 23, 2012 06:56 AM (136wp)

94 So I am working on my "Dear 48" letter to ensure that we have a spirit of comity after this election. Let me know how this sounds:

Dear 48:

No hard feelings. Enjoy your time in the camps. Fuckwads.

Love,

52

Posted by: Golan Globus at October 23, 2012 10:43 AM (7vSU0)

Dear 48:

Someone should really go all scorched earth on your programs and the fucktards who put them together, but we won't.

We won't.

The hell we won't.

Love,

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 23, 2012 06:56 AM (TIIx5)

95 I'd be very surprised to find that we have fewer bayonets now than we did in 1916. Has anyone noticed yet that they were talking about the NAVY? I don't think the NAVY has fewer warhorses now than in 1916. (How do you go down from ZERO?) Also, was it Obama's point that warships are now as obsolete as warhorses? Then why do we have any of them?

Posted by: WisdomLover at October 23, 2012 06:57 AM (jXHUo)

96 What about Connecticut? I know their one naval base is a submarine one in Groton, but I think they have shipbuilding as well. Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 23, 2012 10:48 AM (e0xKF) Electric Boat is in Groton and yes they make and repair Subs.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 23, 2012 06:58 AM (oSFWF)

97 Obama totally owns the snarky hipster douche vote. BTW, Barry, food gets to Hawaii by ship. Ships that sail on shipping lanes kept open by, you guessed it, the United States Navy.

Posted by: eman at October 23, 2012 06:58 AM (+XD7n)

98 87 TFG is sending the economy to Davey Jone's locker. --- Why is there a JEF strutting around naked in my locker room, conspicuously bending over?

Posted by: Davey Jones at October 23, 2012 06:58 AM (e0xKF)

99 (How do you go down from ZERO?)

Eat at McDonalds less?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 23, 2012 06:58 AM (8y9MW)

100

I'd forgotten about that Doors song, creepy mashup with the horses...and yes this is the thread title winner of all title winners.

In other news I've finished the training to be a republican judge of election in the belly of the beast, Cook County, on Nov. 6th. I can't wait.

Posted by: Boots at October 23, 2012 06:59 AM (neKzn)

101 On one side of the split screen you had a completely fraudulent and very skittish looking pathological poseur, and on the other was a reasoned, seasoned, man of accomplishment, judgement and substance.

And the former decided that the occasion called for snark and derision.

When you consider which is our current elected head of state it could damn near make you hurl.

That split screen did SCOAMF much damage with any undecideds last night.

And when I say undecided I mean ladies of course.

.......ducking now

Posted by: ontherocks at October 23, 2012 06:59 AM (aZ6ew)

102 We don't need as many farms as we did in 1916 because the grocery stores are filled with food.

Posted by: Ebola at October 23, 2012 06:59 AM (+XD7n)

103 " A diminished US in the world will only invite more terror, more unrest and more conflict."

I agree, but maybe this would be the wake-up call the world needs to stop supporting jackasses like Obama for President over here. Once they get a taste of what it's like when the US withdraws from the world (I got a pretty good idea of what it will be like, since we've got, oh, about 5,000 years of recorded history as a guide), they'll possibly come around.

That and the resulting chaos would practically guarantee the death of the environmental movement in this country, as our need for energy would have to be filled by more domestic sourcing.

So, short-term pain, long-term gain? I don't know, just trying to find a potential silver lining around the possibility that this dumbass could win a second term.

Posted by: BS Inc. at October 23, 2012 07:00 AM (P2Ufm)

104 67D.M. Hawkins @HawkinsUSA
If you "win" the debate, but it made people more likely to support your opponent, is that really a victory?

Posted by: Evilpens at October 23, 2012 10:48 AM (ck76k)

That's called an Obamic Victory.

Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2012 07:01 AM (WAxG4)

105 Well Todd shipyard in Long Beach, Ca. used to build Navy stuff. Long gone with U.S. Naval Staion. All now covered with shipping containers filled with haloween costumes made in China.

Posted by: Old Glazier at October 23, 2012 07:01 AM (YGHl3)

106 Always hated the Doors. Fuckin hippy carnival music.

Posted by: dananjcon at October 23, 2012 07:03 AM (eavT+)

107 92 I don't think CA has had major military shipbuilding since kaiser shipyards were shut down at the end of WWII. Hell, we are lucky they still have navy bases in CA. Posted by: Vic at October 23, 2012 10:56 AM (YdQQY) I think Mare Island was the last shipyard on the West Coast. You're right. Shipbuilding shut down there after the war. Balao-class subs were the last, I think.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at October 23, 2012 07:04 AM (TT0X5)

108
BTW, Barry, food gets to Hawaii by ship. Ships that sail on shipping lanes kept open by, you guessed it, the United States Navy.

Posted by: eman at October 23, 2012 10:58 AM (+XD7n)

As a side note, the Somali pirate problem has really calmed down in the past year. Partly because of patrolling by sophisticated naval vessels, but mostly because of a couple of skilled US Navy SEAL snipers and the fact that merchant shipping began to finally hire mercenaries to ride along on their ships and shoot back at pirates before they get the chance to climb on board.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 23, 2012 07:04 AM (TIIx5)

109 This is why we still carry bayonets you stuttering clusterfusck of a miserable failure:

"The 24-year-old officer, a member of the 5th battalion The Royal Regiment of Scotland, revealed that he shouted "have some of this" before shooting dead a gunman who had just emerged from a maize field.

Seconds later and out of ammunition, the lieutenant leapt over a river bank and killed a second insurgent machine-gunner with a single thrust of his bayonet in the man's chest."

Daily Mail, can't get linkie to work. Lieutenant James Adamson winner of the Military Cross.

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at October 23, 2012 07:04 AM (8YINY)

110 102 We don't need as many farms as we did in 1916 because the grocery stores are filled with food. Posted by: Ebola at October 23, 2012 10:59 AM (+XD7n) !

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at October 23, 2012 07:06 AM (TT0X5)

111 Is Obammy talking about the Four Unicorns of the Apocalypse?

Posted by: kevlarchick at October 23, 2012 07:07 AM (+dlqq)

112 "we got these things called Aircraft Carriers" .....Yeah we do obama and you want to cut the amount we have to 10? Under heavy pressure to find real cuts, U.S. Navy officials are considering decommissioning a nuclear aircraft carrier halfway through its planned lifespan, two Pentagon sources confirmed. The USS George Washington's three-year-long refueling overhaul, scheduled to begin in 2016, would be canceled under the scheme, and the ship would be decommissioned as its reactor fuel ran out. Along with the carrier, the Navy could also disband one of its 10 carrier air wings - a move that would save roughly as much money and people as cutting the ship. Decommissioning the GW would leave the Navy with a 10-ship carrier fleet, a move that would need to be approved by Congress. U.S. law currently mandates an 11-ship force.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 23, 2012 07:08 AM (oSFWF)

113 I remember a British soldier in Afghanistan decorated for leading a bayonet charge to defeat an ambush. Quick search on the net and here it is:

http://tinyurl.com/czpt9ua

Posted by: Zharkov at October 23, 2012 07:10 AM (CgT4y)

114 The Army includes bayonet in its basic training course still also.

Posted by: Jeff at October 23, 2012 07:10 AM (Oaz+r)

115

Hub cap. Diamond star halo. Dirty/sweet. Oh Yeah.

Posted by: uterus cannon at October 23, 2012 07:11 AM (3ZtZW)

116 Why would they cut the GW before the Nimitz?

Posted by: Vic at October 23, 2012 07:12 AM (YdQQY)

117 Ah, Ace is up

Posted by: Vic at October 23, 2012 07:13 AM (YdQQY)

118 Obama is a muslim.

Posted by: ObamasBrain at October 23, 2012 07:14 AM (I1MMF)

119 Then again, Benghazi is the only B-word that Team Barry seems to have trouble talking about. Balls. Don't forget balls. JEF has trouble with balls. Could be because the First Wookie controls 'em.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 23, 2012 07:16 AM (GFM2b)

120 " When all else fails We can whip the horse's eyes And make them sleep And cry..." The Doors, "The Soft Parade"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 23, 2012 07:17 AM (+tqYo)

121 Check local laws, as your bayonet may be deemed illegal by an all-knowing government. http://preview.tinyurl.com/8m336bx Also, check strike of round with bayonet fixed as the weight may affect barrel harmonics. Just in case.

Posted by: Thorvald at October 23, 2012 07:25 AM (1V6Pv)

122 102 We don't need as many farms as we did in 1916 because the grocery stores are filled with food. Game, set, and match.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 23, 2012 07:25 AM (GFM2b)

123 Of horses, bayonets, and ships.....

We now have more admirals than ships.

In other words, how would you like to go into a fight with the likes of Wesley "Please pass the sweet and sour shrimp" Clark leading the charge?

Posted by: Bobby Ahr at October 23, 2012 07:25 AM (zmZ2x)

124 Beaux-Zeaux. Another B word.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at October 23, 2012 07:34 AM (1hM1d)

125 I made the mistake of listening to the goddamned NPR station while driving this morning. The goddamned show was "On Point" with goddamned Tom Ashbrook. He and his goddamned guests were of course talking about last night's debate. It wasn't news analysis, it was a goddamned cheering section. The goddamned show had a reporter from the NYT, another from Time, some writer dude I've never heard of, and a goddamned asshole from The Atlantic. All four of them plus the goddamned host were gushing from their vaginas about Obama, and were nitpicking everything Romney said. The goddamned levels of hypocrisy and blatant dishonesty were startling, even for goddamned NPR. According to the host and his guests, we don't need a big navy because SCIENCE! and anyway Obama's building more ships right now, and Romney's going to start a war if he wins, and he doesn't understand the pressures Obama faces daily, and the US can't really change the international situation anyway. These goddamned lying hypocrites either don't notice or don't care that their excuses and justifications are self-contradicting. I guess they figure the goddamned listeners are idiots so it doesn't matter. I'd listen to something else when I drive, but only the goddamned NPR station has tax-funded repeater antennas in every goddamned county of the state so it's the only station that doesn't sound like VOA being jammed by the Cubans.

Posted by: Trimegistus at October 23, 2012 07:34 AM (lrvnD)

126 You know that O practiced that line. He worked hard on it in the lead-up to this debate, hoping he would get a chance to use it. And *BINGO!* he got to use it! And promptly uh-uh- uh-ed at the end. I guess he just got sooo excited!

Posted by: benning at October 23, 2012 07:36 AM (8vYXA)

127 Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2012 11:01 AM (WAxG4) YUP

Posted by: Evilpens at October 23, 2012 07:37 AM (ck76k)

128 D.M. Hawkins @HawkinsUSA "Uhhhhhhh let me be c-c-clear, uhhhh" #glossyplan

Posted by: Evilpens at October 23, 2012 07:38 AM (ck76k)

129 When Barrack was back there in Alinsky school
There was a person there who put forth the proposition
That you can persuade the Ayatollahs with words
Persuade the Ayatollahs with words
Persuade the Ayatollahs with words
You cannot persuade the Ayatollahs with words!

Posted by: Z as in Jersey at October 23, 2012 07:41 AM (frL9O)

130 125 I'd listen to something else when I drive, but only the goddamned NPR station has tax-funded repeater antennas in every goddamned county of the state so it's the only station that doesn't sound like VOA being jammed by the Cubans. -------- Perhaps we should take a collection to buy Trimegistus an 8-track player for his car.

Posted by: Anachronda at October 23, 2012 07:44 AM (FzhYM)

131 Did the President miss the news about the unveiling of the Horse Soldier Memorial at Ground Zero three days ago. It recognized the Special Ops soldiers in Afghanistan who literally travelled and fought from horseback. Guess the Prez can't miss a chance to insult or minimize the ingenuity, courage, and commitment of the American soldier.

Posted by: ts at October 23, 2012 07:44 AM (nCWyn)

132 The Special Forces will be mounted during Romney's inaugural parade, and any rifles will have bayonets attached.

Posted by: Goatweed at October 23, 2012 07:44 AM (kgemg)

133 130 Perhaps we should take a collection tobuy Trimegistus an 8-track player for his car. Put me down for a nickle.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 23, 2012 07:45 AM (GFM2b)

134

Here's your meme/Demotivational poster right here.

Posted by: Walsingham at October 23, 2012 07:47 AM (d8B+I)

135

There goes that cushy job at the U.N.

They require a basic knowledge of U.S. military equipment.

Posted by: wth at October 23, 2012 07:48 AM (wAQA5)

136

Sorry,

Link: http://tinyurl.com/8zq33o3

Posted by: Walsingham at October 23, 2012 07:48 AM (d8B+I)

137 If Romney has the balls (and I'm starting to think he might) and the subtle brutality (which I doubt) he would indeed have mounted troops in his inaugural parade. But he's too nice a guy for that. When he shakes Obama's hand and thanks him for his service, you just know Mitt will really mean it.

Posted by: Trimegistus at October 23, 2012 07:50 AM (lrvnD)

138 Coming from the Party of Â“the only thing we have to fear is fear itselfÂ” and the Georgian President with anatidaephobia, why wouldnÂ’t Matthews have a case of luposlipaphobia ?

Posted by: Jared Loughner at October 23, 2012 07:50 AM (e8kgV)

139 What's funny to me is that during Romney's inauguration parade the Old Guard, the Army unit assigned to DC, will have bayonets as they are the only unit officially allowed to use them in parades routinely.

From: http://tinyurl.com/yje3nka

"A further distinction of The Old Guard is the time-honored custom of passing in-review with fixed bayonets at all parades. This practice, officially sanctioned by the War Department in 1922, dates to the Mexican War in 1847 when the 3d Infantry led a successful bayonet charge against the enemy at Cerro Gordo. Today, this distinction is still reserved for The Old Guard alone."

Posted by: Zharkov at October 23, 2012 07:57 AM (CgT4y)

140 The concern is that we have the fewest ships SINCE 1916. Not fewer ships THAN 1916.

Posted by: Tommy V at October 23, 2012 07:58 AM (ZYlKz)

141 Nice work @jackmcoldcuts, really.

Posted by: sTevo at October 23, 2012 08:04 AM (16tqn)

142 Zharkov- the 82nd does the division review with bayonets fixed. I can remember running back to the barracks in formation with bayonets on our m4s. Oh yeah, I made sure all my boys had bayonets before each deployment to play hide and seek in the sandbox.

Posted by: Assassin6 at October 23, 2012 08:07 AM (FfukH)

143 I'm pretty sure that when Obama mentioned fewer bayonets along with horses, he meant that we don't use either in warfare any longer. That's obviously wrong.

Posted by: tommy at October 23, 2012 08:11 AM (Ufxn1)

144 "I'm @jackmcoldcuts, and I freaking rock."

Sounds like a less profane version of Maddox...

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at October 23, 2012 08:12 AM (vd7A8)

145

>> Is Obammy talking about the Four Unicorns of the Apocalypse?

Unicorns wish they had bayonets.

And while a Marine would prefer to kill his enemy from several hundred yards, he is perfectly capable of killing up close with a bayonet.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at October 23, 2012 08:14 AM (WvXvd)

146 >>Sorry,

Link: http://tinyurl.com/8zq33o3

Posted by: Walsingham
---

Score points with that one. I nominate this for tonight's ONT.

Posted by: sTevo at October 23, 2012 08:14 AM (16tqn)

147 Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 23, 2012 11:08 AM (oSFWF)

The fire she suffered a few years ago really tore her up. If they had to let a carrier go, it would be the GW. For a similar reason, CG 73 (the newest) is guaranteed to go next year no matter how many we finally decide to decommission. She nearly broke her back when she grounded three years ago. Had nothing but problems since.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at October 23, 2012 08:18 AM (rqlRk)

148 I heard only a couple of lines last night, but they were telling. The first was the President reminding everyone he was the President: "...we had a president -- me -- who bla bla bla..."

The other...I didn't hear the particulars, but I heard that patented Obama "aaaand," while he was digging for a line and wishing for a 'Prompter.

So second verse, same as the first.

Posted by: Ken at October 23, 2012 08:19 AM (7yb9x)

149 I didn't read the whole thread, but it seems to me everyone is missing the true stupidity of the horses and bayonets line. Look at what he effectively said to Romney: "You are dumb and backwards because you don't know that ships are obsolete. Why, now we have ships that go underwater, and ships that planes land on. So, obviously, duh, we don't use ships anymore, and you are dumb." Even he refers to his supposed 2nd example of a new technology that has replaced ships as "these ships". It was utterly incoherent, and no one seems to have noticed, on either side. Qwinn

Posted by: Qwinn at October 23, 2012 08:23 AM (bnAKg)

150 I recall a gentleman by the name of MacNamara who had all sorts of grand ideas about what a modern war should look like.

It didn't turn out so hot, as I recall.

Democrats always seem to think they know more about fighting a war than the people who actually have to fight one.

Posted by: Kristopher at October 23, 2012 08:33 AM (wYVte)

151 Qwinn: He has no notions about what our ships are capable of.

I doubt the Navy is giving him complete information, simply because they don't want it blurted to potential enemies.

This is what happens to you when you get a rep for peeing away opsec.

Posted by: Kristophr at October 23, 2012 08:37 AM (wYVte)

152 It needs a 4th "B": either Buffoon, or Bozo.

Posted by: Greg Q at October 23, 2012 08:38 AM (4Pleu)

153

"the 82nd does the division review with bayonets fixed"

I think most light infantry does. When I was at the 25th ID, all our ceremonies were in full combat gear with bayonets fixed. We couldn't take them to the field, mind you, lest some poor idiot private cut his finger off, but we used them to stand there and stroke some colonel's ego.

Posted by: UGAdawg at October 23, 2012 08:40 AM (oGs2k)

154 We need fewer ships because I lowered the oceans. Duh.

Posted by: BHO at October 23, 2012 08:41 AM (WGggC)

155 As a good quick snark the "horses and bayonets" line worked. The beauty part and it is a beauty is that Obama kept going with "and we have ships you can land airplanes on and ....." Even better he used his hands to illustrate. Look at that clip - it is puerile and condescending and absolutely Bidenesque (BIRM). Everything that's wrong with Obama's temperament on display. That should be edited and highlighted and linked on youtube for every undecided.

Actually, Biden could have probably pulled it off. Hell Sheriff Joe might have written it for him.

Posted by: Ronzoni at October 23, 2012 09:17 AM (k+hyc)

156 Obama has expressed his admiration for China's advances in high-speed rail, solar panels, batteries, etc., but he thinks we should dump our Navy while China is quickly ramping up theirs. What's he going to do when China has a fleet of aircraft carriers, we have none, and they start throwing their weight around in the Asian Pacific? Call Australia?

Posted by: Socratease at October 23, 2012 10:50 AM (iVBDH)

157 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at October 23, 2012 11:26 AM (6o4Fb)

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