January 16, 2012

Huntsman Dropping Out Will Endorse Romney- Offical Announcement
— DrewM

Awww.

This really opens up the competition for the voters who prize bad jokes and speaking Mandarin in a candidate. Also hit hardest...reporters and liberal commentators.

On the upside there are two debates this week (including one on Fox News tonight) and that means we can hear more from the other candidates. On the downside, that also means more Ron Paul.

Huntsman is an odd duck. He's demonstrably more conservative than Mitt Romney yet he ran to the left of everyone. I wonder if he regrets making "being as obnoxious as possible" the central rationale of his candidacy. My guess is he's not nearly self-aware enough for that.

(I see Ace mentioned this last night but Huntsman is doing his thing in a few minutes.)

[Update - Andy:] Doomed by this tweet?

huntsman

Climategate 2.0 gave him the perfect opportunity to walk that idiocy back, too.

[Drew again]: Everything you need to know about Huntsman:

Huntsman, last Monday: "“Gov. Romney enjoys firing people. I enjoy creating jobs.” Today deploring "toxic" political discourse in speech

Integrity.

Posted by: DrewM at 07:09 AM | Comments (195)
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1 Yeah, that worked *so* well for McCain. Cordially...

Posted by: Rick at January 16, 2012 07:10 AM (Gfgj6)

2 But I thought his game plan was to wait for the Manchuria primary to see if he could pick up some momentum there?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 16, 2012 07:10 AM (niZvt)

3 He's polling above Perry in S.C.....Ducking!

Posted by: Concealed Kerry or Submit at January 16, 2012 07:12 AM (vXqv3)

4 I don't get the constant Paul-bashing on this site. He's the only candidate who would change the status quo of trillion-dollar deficits as far as the eye can see.

Posted by: W.C. Varones at January 16, 2012 07:12 AM (QMAPJ)

5 Posted by: W.C. Varones at January 16, 2012 11:12 AM (QMAPJ)

How's that annoying rectal itch doing? Scratching it with your Ron Paul brand swastikas?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 16, 2012 07:14 AM (nEUpB)

6 4 I don't get the constant Paul-bashing on this site. He's the only candidate who would change the status quo of trillion-dollar deficits as far as the eye can see. Posted by: W.C. Varones at January 16, 2012 11:12 AM (QMAPJ) Sorry, but isolationism, racism, and Jew-bashing aren't my cup of tea.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 16, 2012 07:14 AM (niZvt)

7 Posted by: Concealed Kerry or Submit at January 16, 2012 11:12 AM (vXqv3)

Damned close. I saw a poll this morning that showed Perry at 6% and Huntsman at 5%.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 16, 2012 07:15 AM (nEUpB)

8 Kinda related.  Red State has a summary of the Evangelical "leaders'" (honestly, I don't know if they are or not, hence the quote) meeting.  It's depressing as hell. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 16, 2012 07:15 AM (5H6zj)

9 I would rather be lit on fire. I would rather have my eyeballs forced open with chicken wire and forced to watch The View. I would rather see a Katherine Heigel movie. I would rather do all of these things before voting for Ron Paul.

Posted by: Conservative Law at January 16, 2012 07:16 AM (nMMma)

10 #4. I actually m beginning to think I might like Paul over Romneycare.
Paul will cut,,,,, Romneycare will manage the decline along with the free wheeler Progressive Repunks like McCain Grahamnasty, Collins , Snowe, and a myriad of others.

Posted by: Concealed Kerry or Submit at January 16, 2012 07:16 AM (vXqv3)

11 Ron Paul couldn't get the house or Senate to do anything besides flick him off.

Posted by: Mr Pink at January 16, 2012 07:16 AM (6CG0J)

12 rollcall Transportation Chmn John Mica (Fla) becomes @'s 64th Hill backer. #endorsementwatch http://t.co/y32JPqbR

Posted by: Miss80s at January 16, 2012 07:17 AM (d6QMz)

13 Under no circumstances would I vote for Ron Paul.

Posted by: Y-not at January 16, 2012 07:17 AM (5H6zj)

14 Hey, Y-not, how are ya? Quite honestly, I want the primaries OVER and done with ASAP: all three remaining serious contenders would be acceptable to me. It's just time to stop the GOP circular firing squad.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 16, 2012 07:18 AM (niZvt)

15 I know he's rich, but he probably decided he'd pissed away enough dollars at this point. He'll console himself with the fact that he gave it a try and a few people now know who he is.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 16, 2012 07:19 AM (hiMsy)

16 Hunts man, we hardly knew ye.

Posted by: Jimmah at January 16, 2012 07:19 AM (TMeYE)

17 Ya but for those of you who haven't had your quota and still use em Ron Paul offers worry free drugs!
Leave me out.

Posted by: Concealed Kerry or Submit at January 16, 2012 07:20 AM (vXqv3)

18 10 #4. I actually m beginning to think I might like Paul over Romneycare. Paul will cut,,,,, Romneycare will manage the decline along with the free wheeler Progressive Repunks like McCain Grahamnasty, Collins , Snowe, and a myriad of others. Posted by: Concealed Kerry or Submit at January 16, 2012 11:16 AM (vXqv3) Look, Romney's said over and over he would repeal Obamacare AND neutralize it immediately by giving each state a waiver (OK, that second part is half-baked, because it doesn't explain what happens when liberal states like CT refuse it, but still... ) I don't know what more you can ask of the guy. For added comfort, saddle him with an extra conservative Congress and relax, will ya?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 16, 2012 07:20 AM (niZvt)

19 Hunstman is lecturing the Republicans on the pit falls of a dirty election and the need for bold ideas. Shut the fuck up and get off the stage

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 16, 2012 07:20 AM (i6RpT)

20 So, Ron Paul is worse than Obama?

I'd say he's not.

/ducking, not a Paulbot, just a cynic.

Posted by: shibumi at January 16, 2012 07:20 AM (z63Tr)

21 19 Hunstman is lecturing the Republicans on the pit falls of a dirty election and the need for bold ideas. Shut the fuck up and get off the stage Posted by: nevergiveup at January 16, 2012 11:20 AM (i6RpT) His bold idea now is to become a regular on Morning Joe, smirking as he sits next to their other notable Resident Asshole, Peggy Noonan.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 16, 2012 07:21 AM (niZvt)

22 So, Ron Paul is worse than Obama? He is a whole other kind of bad. Two bads don't make a happy nevergiveup Bat shit crazy ain't good for nobody

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 16, 2012 07:22 AM (i6RpT)

23 I want the primaries OVER and done with ASAP: all three remaining serious contenders would be acceptable to me.

By that I assume you mean Romney, Santorum, and Gingrich.

Of those three, I think I could vote - and drum up a bit of enthusiasm for - Gingrich. 

Hey, Y-not, how are ya?

I'm ok, but primarily because my husband (who loathes politics) is on the same page that I'm on vis a vis this mess.  Misery loves company.  It's beginning to feel like 2008 redux and I'm not happy about that. 

It's just time to stop the GOP circular firing squad.

But oddly enough it wasn't time to do that when Perry was accused of needle-raping little girls and trying to smother grannies. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 16, 2012 07:22 AM (5H6zj)

24 Posted by: shibumi at January 16, 2012 11:20 AM (z63Tr)

Dats where I'm at.

Posted by: Concealed Kerry or Submit at January 16, 2012 07:22 AM (vXqv3)

25 Another win for team Romney and his steel grey highlights. I'm so hard right now my erection could be used to etch a diamond.

Posted by: Beff J. at January 16, 2012 07:23 AM (6CG0J)

26 "Also hit hardest...reporters and liberal commentators." How about "Also hit hardest...reporters and other liberal commentators."?

Posted by: eman at January 16, 2012 07:23 AM (dWuuB)

27 Ron's tin-foil hat scares me off.

Posted by: Barry S at January 16, 2012 07:23 AM (nLpaT)

28   Huntsman, last Monday: "“Gov. Romney enjoys firing people. I enjoy creating jobs.” Today deploring "toxic" political discourse in speech

Posted by: Miss80s at January 16, 2012 07:23 AM (d6QMz)

29 I don't know what more you can ask of the guy.

What's his plan for replacing Obamacare? 

And why can't he admit that Masscare hurt Massachusetts? 

Posted by: Y-not at January 16, 2012 07:23 AM (5H6zj)

30 By that I assume you mean Romney, Santorum, and Gingrich.

Of those three, I think I could vote - and drum up a bit of enthusiasm for - Gingrich.

Yep!

Posted by: Concealed Kerry or Submit at January 16, 2012 07:24 AM (vXqv3)

31 Also... who are these people that support Rombley? I peruse a few conservative/ Republican blogs, and I have yet to see anyone who is all Mitt all the time. I know people who used to support him, but do not now.

Who are these people and why are we letting them vote?

Posted by: shibumi at January 16, 2012 07:24 AM (z63Tr)

32 I hate Republican Isolationists

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 16, 2012 07:25 AM (i6RpT)

33 He's the only candidate who would change the status quo of trillion-dollar deficits as far as the eye can see.

Posted by: W.C. Varones at January 16, 2012 11:12 AM (QMAPJ)

Refresh my memory....how long has he been in congress?  And if you have time, exactly what has he done during that time to 'change the status quo'? kthnxbai

Posted by: Tami at January 16, 2012 07:25 AM (X6akg)

34 But oddly enough it wasn't time to do that when Perry was accused of needle-raping little girls and trying to smother grannies. Posted by: Y-not at January 16, 2012 11:22 AM (5H6zj) Oh come on, Y-not: I turned against Bachmann completely after her Tardisil BS. I think you know that Tardisil wasn't the reason Perry imploded, though... he just was no way ready to run for president. You can't do a campaign for POTUS on the fly, especially when you're not particularly fast on your feet to begin with. It's true that his record is important... but his campaign record has been atrocious.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 16, 2012 07:26 AM (niZvt)

35 If anyone here feels on the fence about Romney, I suggest you read some of the gems coming out of John Sununu's pie hole and envision him as chief of staff.  I particularly enjoyed the threats he tossed out at Newt's backer. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 16, 2012 07:26 AM (5H6zj)

36 32 I hate Republican Libertarian Isolationists masquerading as Republicans. Posted by: nevergiveup at January 16, 2012 11:25 AM (i6RpT) FTFY

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 16, 2012 07:27 AM (niZvt)

37 You're crazy.

Done.


Posted by: JR at January 16, 2012 07:27 AM (gWOju)

38 In the good old days of the founding fathers only landowners could vote.
I loves me that idea.
If ya can't yet own a piece of America, at least a 6 x 6 hut, then ya shouldn't  be votin yourself free stuff from those who do,, else we is doomed!

DOOMED I SAY!

Posted by: Concealed Kerry or Submit at January 16, 2012 07:27 AM (vXqv3)

39 Huntsman never had a chance as a pro-science rationalist.  The GOP voter base is that fucking retarded.

Posted by: Clarence at January 16, 2012 07:28 AM (z0HdK)

40 Sniff Sniff? Foul smell

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 16, 2012 07:28 AM (i6RpT)

41 Are you a scientist, Clarence? 

Posted by: Y-not at January 16, 2012 07:29 AM (5H6zj)

42

Paul has made this election cycle strange.

If Romney wins SC and FL, you would expect everyone to drop out, though Paul probably won't. Should Romney interact with Paul until the last primary to keep him from collecting delegates or just ignore him?

Posted by: Paper at January 16, 2012 07:29 AM (IvlIt)

43 [Update - Andy:] Doomed by this tweet?

He was doomed the day he decided to help Obama get a talking point in return for his own career advancement.

Everything else (and there was a lot more besides that tweet) was just icing on the cake.

Posted by: AD at January 16, 2012 07:30 AM (v5FAc)

44 "I believe the scientists" != "pro-science", dipshit.

Posted by: Andy at January 16, 2012 07:30 AM (XG+Mn)

45 They say every time Clarence makes a stupid post, an Angel Gets His Wings...

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 16, 2012 07:30 AM (niZvt)

46 Quite sad actually. If he ran on his record, he seemed like a good candidate. Oh well. XXXX XXXX 2016!

Posted by: GergS at January 16, 2012 07:31 AM (dptRY)

47 Paul has made this election cycle strange.

But it's not strictly Paul, whom I abhor.  I mean, he runs every year.  What's different about this year?  Why is he a threat all of a sudden? 

Sad to say, but I think Paul and his lunatic supporters are attracting people who are frustrated that the Tea Party has lost its relevancy. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 16, 2012 07:31 AM (5H6zj)

48 31 Also... who are these people that support Rombley? I peruse a few conservative/ Republican blogs, and I have yet to see anyone who is all Mitt all the time. I know people who used to support him, but do not now. Who are these people and why are we letting them vote? Posted by: shibumi at January 16, 2012 11:24 AM (z63Tr) I've been on team Romney since he took my virginity in 1964. It was after the prom at West Beverley High, on the 50 yard line of the football field. He touched me so deep inside my knees gave out. Ladies he is HUGE.

Posted by: Beff J. at January 16, 2012 07:31 AM (6CG0J)

49

#39

It is about tone as well. There are plenty of Republican voters who agree with Huntsman on civil unions or evolution who don't care for someone who speaks to large groups of people (e.g. religious conservatives) like they are idiots.

It shows poor judgement and temperment.

Posted by: Paper at January 16, 2012 07:31 AM (IvlIt)

50 49 Huntsman was running for prez? Posted by: Beefy Meatball at January 16, 2012 11:31 AM (yn6XZ) Of China?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 16, 2012 07:32 AM (niZvt)

51 >> He was doomed the day he decided to help Obama get a talking point in return for his own career advancement. That's probably right. Or, as Huntsman would say, mei sheing wah no.

Posted by: Andy at January 16, 2012 07:32 AM (XG+Mn)

52 Now that you rubes have had your fun and got to pretend that you have a say, it's time to stop the circular firing squad and accept the candidate we've chosen for you. If you don't quit it now, we'll just have to take those guns away and you'll never get to play firing squad again. Of course, even if you listen, we're still gonna try to take those guns. Nothing quite as disgusting as armed yokels.

Posted by: The Mittens-GOP Complex at January 16, 2012 07:32 AM (lUy7h)

53 At future debates, smarminess/douchetoid factor down by 72%, alien eyebrow factor down by 35%.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 16, 2012 07:33 AM (21lBC)

54 39 Huntsman never had a chance as a pro-science rationalist. The GOP voter base is that fucking retarded. --- Ha. What is scientific about the global warming hoax? For that matter what is scientific about evolution theory? Lat I checked neither has been scientifically proven.

Posted by: Jimmah at January 16, 2012 07:33 AM (TMeYE)

55 Huntsman, I suspect, will come back as a strong candidate in the future - but he has much fence mending to do with social conservatives. Someone needs to cure him of his open disdain for the unwashed masses. And electro-shock him each time Chinese slips out of his trap.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 16, 2012 07:33 AM (niZvt)

56 I wonder if Huntsman dropped out because of that disgusting attack ad put out against Romney that was supposedly from a Huntsman supporter but that Huntsman says was really from the Paul camp. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 16, 2012 07:33 AM (5H6zj)

57

And speaking of fucking retarded have you seen my kids?

I guess that's what I get for banging my sister!

Posted by: Clarence! at January 16, 2012 07:34 AM (dA8Ib)

58 Ron Paul bashers: "Hey, we LOVE war. As long as we (or our kids) don't have to fight in it.". Question: how do the chickenhawks explain away the fact that Ron Paul raises more money from the troops than any other candidate?

Posted by: Snake Pliskin at January 16, 2012 07:35 AM (jiwQf)

59 59 And speaking of fucking retarded have you seen my kids? I guess that's what I get for banging my sister! Posted by: Clarence! at January 16, 2012 11:34 AM (dA8Ib) I thought you only do anal?

Posted by: Clarence's Mom, rubbing her butt. at January 16, 2012 07:35 AM (niZvt)

60 Clarence, do you like gladiator movies?????

Romney's going to be...........the nominee.  The Gods have willed it.............

Posted by: SantaRosaStan ( maybe the train won't come ) at January 16, 2012 07:35 AM (UqKQV)

61 >>I guess that's what I get for banging my sister!

Hey, you promised that was our little secret!  I'm going to tell my friends to report you to the FBI!

Posted by: curiously changing her hash at January 16, 2012 07:35 AM (5H6zj)

62 Romney's going to be...........the nominee.  The Gods have willed it.............

Keep me out of this.  It's bad enough I got blamed for the Patriots.

Posted by: The Almighty at January 16, 2012 07:36 AM (5H6zj)

63 58 I wonder if Huntsman dropped out because of that disgusting attack ad put out against Romney that was supposedly from a Huntsman supporter but that Huntsman says was really from the Paul camp. Posted by: Y-not at January 16, 2012 11:33 AM (5H6zj) It's possible he simply recognized reality and decided that allowing the GOP to now unify behind a viable candidate was more important than his personal ambition. It's also possible pigs can fly.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 16, 2012 07:36 AM (niZvt)

64

#47

I agree that is part of it, but Paul for all of his faults has spent the last four years doing what a serious candidate should be doing. He established connections with donors and supporters across the country, and he has succesfully used young and independent voters to bolster his support.

A candidate who pulls over 20% in the first two primaries is really taking a lot of the vote (and momentum) away from the other candidates. Non-Republican voters are part of the story, but any candidate could have the same type of support if they pushed for it.

There were only two candidates prepared to run for this election, Paul and Romney, and it showed.

Posted by: Paper at January 16, 2012 07:37 AM (IvlIt)

65 Actually Huntsman's record in Utah is fairly liberal. He did a few good things but he also did a slot of shitty things like the AGW fraud, open borders, and increased government spending.

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2012 07:37 AM (YdQQY)

66 So if our troops support Ron Paul more than any other candidate, by the reasoning here at AoS, our troops MUST be "isolationists, racists, and Jew bashers.

Posted by: Snake Pliskin at January 16, 2012 07:38 AM (jiwQf)

Posted by: chemjeff at January 16, 2012 07:38 AM (qVUxp)

68 Huntsman love me long time.    but no soul brothers.............

Posted by: stereotypical Vietnamese hooker inspired by Full Metal Jacket at January 16, 2012 07:38 AM (UqKQV)

69 68 So if our troops support Ron Paul more than any other candidate, by the reasoning here at AoS, our troops MUST be "isolationists, racists, and Jew bashers. Posted by: Snake Pliskin at January 16, 2012 11:38 AM (jiwQf) Maybe our troops don't know all about him??

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 16, 2012 07:39 AM (niZvt)

70 Craig James (R) is on Fox.  He's running for the Kay Bailey seat.  He's impressive.  He's talking "God, Family and the Constitution".

Posted by: Free Market Capitalism is the Best Path to Prosperity at January 16, 2012 07:39 AM (oZfic)

71 How do Paul supporters explain away the fact that Ron Paul associates with Truthers and has claimed the Bush administration was gleeful over 9-11. Paul supporters are the most obtuse, inconsistent people I know.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 16, 2012 07:39 AM (eFnXz)

72 69 flying pigs Posted by: chemjeff at January 16, 2012 11:38 AM (qVUxp) That's actually the Chinese Olympic Women's Swimming Team!

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 16, 2012 07:40 AM (niZvt)

73 @67
You're right about those things, but the biggest knock on Huntsman that I heard from folks around here was him not following through on his promise to support school vouchers. 

Most of the (Republican) folks around here say it's not that he's too liberal (obviously Utah Republicans are kind of squishy moderates since they support Romney), but that he's untrustworthy. 

Posted by: The Almighty at January 16, 2012 07:40 AM (5H6zj)

74 polynikes Have you met Beff J. yet? Maybe you and him -could trade "war" stories...

Posted by: Mitt Romney! at January 16, 2012 07:41 AM (r2PLg)

75 Good for Ron.  He raised 100K from the million plus people we have in uniform (according to him).  That makes his unsavory neo-nazi and anti-semitic past teflon, right?   It also means we can't point out that he's a truther who seems to sympathize with the Mullahs to the detriment of this country.

Posted by: ejo at January 16, 2012 07:41 AM (3RMbJ)

76 The real reason he is dropping out is that he is out of money. He used daddy's money for NH and went all out there and didn't do all that well.

Tardicil should drop out as well. She has no money and the only reason she is still in is free debates. And IF Romney wins SC, splitting it between him and Newt he will not get that many delegates. Remember, he needs over a 1,000. He has 12 now.

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2012 07:41 AM (YdQQY)

77 sock off!

Posted by: Y-not is not The Almighty at January 16, 2012 07:41 AM (5H6zj)

78 Ron Paul's racism is baked into the cake. I know some people want to somehow separate it out, but that's just not possible. In a similar way, Romney's love of socialized medicine is one of the few core principles he's shown us. It appears everything else is up for grabs, but that one he'll hold onto as hard as Obama's has. You are deluding yourself if you think Mitt will do anything other than tinker with Obamacare.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 16, 2012 07:41 AM (Gc/Qi)

79 this cannot be.......the one with all the friends said it's dad's soooooooooooper rich friend that's in the know said it would be huntsman..........nooooooooooo!!!!!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl....rip maverick the orange dog at January 16, 2012 07:42 AM (Ho2rs)

80 >>Tardicil should drop out as well.

Didn't she already drop out? 

Posted by: Y-not at January 16, 2012 07:42 AM (5H6zj)

81 All animals are equal--but some are more equal than others

Posted by: George Orwell ( read "Down and Out in Paris & London ) at January 16, 2012 07:42 AM (UqKQV)

82 So if our troops support Ron Paul more than any other candidate, by the reasoning here at AoS, our troops MUST be "isolationists, racists, and Jew bashers. Posted by: Snake Pliskin at January 16, 2012 11:38 AM (jiwQf) Our troops do NOT support Ron Paul. As with any large group of people, there are some more vocal and visible that others.

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 16, 2012 07:42 AM (i6RpT)

83

There is a large range of foreign policy feelings between Ron Paul style 'non-interventionism' and the type of nation-building that we have engaged in that many people think is unsuccessful.

Many military people don't support the latter, and so they are drawn to one of the only candidates that says that. It doesn't necessarily mean that they support Paul's Alex Jones nuttery.

Also, most people in our military are young, a demographic group Paul does well among. Add into that the more libertarian political views of people in this age group.

Posted by: Paper at January 16, 2012 07:42 AM (IvlIt)

84 Posted by: Y-not is not The Almighty at January 16, 2012 11:41 AM (5H6zj) Wait. You mean all those times I knelt out on the field, thinking of you...

Posted by: Tim Tebow at January 16, 2012 07:43 AM (niZvt)

85

31 Also... who are these people that support Rombley? I peruse a few conservative/ Republican blogs, and I have yet to see anyone who is all Mitt all the time. I know people who used to support him, but do not now.

Who are these people and why are we letting them vote?
Posted by: shibumi at January 16, 2012 11:24 AM (z63Tr)

The reason you don't hear from them is that the people who support him (including, grudgingly, me right now) is that even the people who support him know he sucks.  Anybody who's intellectually honest admits this.  It's a marriage of convenience (or at least necessity), except there's nobody else you really love either, so there's no need either to pretend that it's love or to gloss over what's going on.

Posted by: AD at January 16, 2012 07:43 AM (v5FAc)

86 Mirror, mirror on the wall- who is prettier- Me or Brady? (Oops! Haaaavard-) Brady or I?

Posted by: Mitt Romney! at January 16, 2012 07:43 AM (r2PLg)

87 I've read this before and echoed it many times: Ron Paul is the freak monster of the GOP. It's the GOP's fault that many(inluding some relatives of mine!) are seeking a candidate that isn't tripping over themselves to back big corporatism, big conservatism, and a ground war with Iran. The American people are sick of wars, sick of being Team America World Police. This is what resonates with Paul, the racist nutbag that he is.

Posted by: GergS at January 16, 2012 07:43 AM (dptRY)

88 83 All animals are equal--but some are more equal than others Posted by: George Orwell ( read "Down and Out in Paris & London ) at January 16, 2012 11:42 AM (UqKQV) All fours good!

Posted by: Paris Hilton at January 16, 2012 07:43 AM (niZvt)

89 So if our troops support Ron Paul more than any other candidate, by the reasoning here at AoS, our troops MUST be "isolationists, racists, and Jew bashers.

Except it's flat out untrue.

It's well known that your fellow Paultards are in the habit of falsely entering "military" as their occupation when sending in their weed money.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 16, 2012 07:43 AM (SY2Kh)

90 Tim Tebow- is for the peasants...

Posted by: Mitt Romney! at January 16, 2012 07:43 AM (r2PLg)

91 Maybe our troops don't know all about him??

Maybe they understand how stupid our decade-long interventions in Iraq and 'Ganistan have been.

Posted by: RioBravo at January 16, 2012 07:44 AM (eEfYn)

92 Didn't she already drop out? No-Santorum is still in.

Posted by: Mitt Romney! at January 16, 2012 07:45 AM (r2PLg)

93 84 So if our troops support Ron Paul more than any other candidate, by the reasoning here at AoS, our troops MUST be "isolationists, racists, and Jew bashers.

I trust the idea that our troops support Ron Paul to the same extent I trust the internet polls that you guys spam.

Posted by: AD at January 16, 2012 07:45 AM (v5FAc)

94 Ron Paul supporters like making shit up and repeating it..

Posted by: Beff J. at January 16, 2012 07:45 AM (6CG0J)

95 82 >>Tardicil should drop out as well. Didn't she already drop out? Posted by: Y-not at January 16, 2012 11:42 AM (5H6zj) Of course she did. So far the voters have done a pretty good job discarding the weak candidates.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 16, 2012 07:45 AM (niZvt)

96 maybe if they were allowed to fight a war they wouldn't be so frustrated .......

Posted by: phoenixgirl....rip maverick the orange dog at January 16, 2012 07:45 AM (Ho2rs)

97 Maybe they understand how stupid our decade-long interventions in Iraq and 'Ganistan have been. Posted by: RioBravo at January 16, 2012 11:44 AM (eEfYn) Actually that is not true. Many question our tactics and goals, but most understand why we fight. They are NOT Isolationists, or they would not be in the "Volunteer" Military.

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 16, 2012 07:46 AM (i6RpT)

98 Tardicil should drop out as well. She has no money and the only reason she is still in is free debates. And IF Romney wins SC, splitting it between him and Newt he will not get that many delegates. Remember, he needs over a 1,000. He has 12 now.

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2012 11:41 AM (YdQQY)

Vic, Bachmann dropped out after Iowa.

Posted by: Tami at January 16, 2012 07:46 AM (X6akg)

99 Beff J. I love your stories! Don't remember them-pure fiction but they do tent my tent-and there is room for- everybody!

Posted by: Mitt Romney! at January 16, 2012 07:46 AM (r2PLg)

100 Question: how do the chickenhawks explain away the fact that Ron Paul raises more money from the troops pothead Truther douchebags who falslely claim to be in the military than any other candidate?

Fixed for accuracy.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 16, 2012 07:46 AM (SY2Kh)

101

Now that I have conservatives defending anything I do in the name of capitalism, I plan to legalize child pornography in my first term. Pornography is free enterprise too. All forms of capitalism should be defended, no matter who gets hurt.

I know I can count on my supporters to defend this decision. Child pornography is a profitable enterprise and should not be descriminated against. Making money is the bottom line.

Posted by: Willard the First, standard bearer for Capitalism at January 16, 2012 07:47 AM (xgj/f)

102 Didn't she already drop out?

Yes she did, momentary brain fart.

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2012 07:47 AM (YdQQY)

103 Well I'm done with you "Conservatives" -I'm off to go court the Obama vote!

Posted by: Mitt Romney! at January 16, 2012 07:48 AM (r2PLg)

104 funniest sock yesterday.....to paraphrase i'm dropping out to appropriately celebrate the chinese new year....gung hay fat choy to my two supporters.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl....rip maverick the orange dog at January 16, 2012 07:48 AM (Ho2rs)

105

Am wondering who the trust-fund baby loving portion of the Republican electorate is going to throw their support behind.

Speaking of warped political dynasties, hopefully the Dems will roll out Algore at their convention so that he can spout about AGW.  I'm sure the Dems will want to play that up in August 2012 when gas is at $5 a gallon.  And evolution will be a key issue as we observe the unintelligible utterances, tattoos, and slackjawed demeanor of the up and coming generation.  

Huntsman came across as a snotty little prick.  In contrast, I'm growing to appreciate Romeny's capacity for being a go at the jugular bastard.  Frankly, what destroyed Perry's campaign wasn't the gaffes--it was the "have a heart" line--GOP voters have had their bellies full of compassionate conservatives. 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 16, 2012 07:48 AM (Ec6wH)

106 Why don't we judge Ron Paul by his record (like we do with the other candidates) and not by the things he pays lip service to?

Posted by: nickless at January 16, 2012 07:48 AM (jNqz6)

107 Paulbots swarm in and mess up every dang post.  Go away already.  He ain't gonna matter in a month.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 16, 2012 07:49 AM (4q5tP)

108

I wonder if Paul staying in the race makes Mitt run as a conservative longer than he would otherwise. If he switches too quickly to run to the center, Paul will still be in the race as a protest vote.

Posted by: Paper at January 16, 2012 07:49 AM (IvlIt)

109 zerohedge losers for the paultard

Posted by: phoenixgirl....rip maverick the orange dog at January 16, 2012 07:49 AM (Ho2rs)

110 Ron Paul's racism is baked into the cake. I know some people want to somehow separate it out, but that's just not possible.

Possibly, but it's possible we don't want to vote for a guy with Paul's race/conspiracy issues, whether it's baked into the polling or not.

Posted by: AD at January 16, 2012 07:49 AM (v5FAc)

111 Why don't we judge Ron Paul by his record (like we do with the other candidates) and not by the things he pays lip service to? Posted by: nickless at January 16, 2012 11:48 AM (jNqz6) Because he voices so many opinions that are vile

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 16, 2012 07:50 AM (i6RpT)

112 Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2012 11:47 AM (YdQQY)

That brings up an interesting question.  Both Michelle Bachman and Herman Cain "suspended" their campaigns.  They did not endorse any other candidate.  Makes you wonder if they plan to re enter the race.  It's unconventional but nothing about this race has been conventional.

Posted by: Free Market Capitalism is the Best Path to Prosperity at January 16, 2012 07:50 AM (oZfic)

113 what's paul's record? get earmarks and then vote against the bill?

Posted by: phoenixgirl....rip maverick the orange dog at January 16, 2012 07:51 AM (Ho2rs)

114 Actually that is not true. Many question our tactics and goals, but most understand why we fight. They are NOT Isolationists, or they would not be in the "Volunteer" Military.

How can a 'maybe' not be true. Are you saying there is not way volunteers think our interventions are stupid? Volunteering to fight a countries battles implies you support the decision to have the battles. What about patriotism? Or the desire to fight?

Since when did opposing extended land wars on the Asian mainland constitute making one an isolationist or unwilling to make the military a career?

Posted by: RioBravo at January 16, 2012 07:51 AM (eEfYn)

115 That brings up an interesting question. Both Michelle Bachman and Herman Cain "suspended" their campaigns. They did not endorse any other candidate. Makes you wonder if they plan to re enter the race. It's unconventional but nothing about this race has been conventional. Posted by: Free Market Capitalism is the Best Path to Prosperity at January 16, 2012 11:50 AM (oZfic) They usually do that for both Financial reasons so they can still raise money to pay off their debts and also to "maybe" have some influence at the Convention

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 16, 2012 07:51 AM (i6RpT)

116 Jeez-you guys were "easier" than Chris Christie with the jelly donut.

Posted by: Mitt Romney! at January 16, 2012 07:52 AM (r2PLg)

117

So sayonara Jonny.  And it should be spelled 'John.' Fags drop the 'h.' 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 16, 2012 07:52 AM (Ec6wH)

118 This primary process is taking too long. Everyone knows that I will be the nominee. Let's get this over with. How many state primary officials do I have to pay off! Virginia cost me a small fortune.

Posted by: Willard the First, standard bearer for Capitalism at January 16, 2012 07:52 AM (xgj/f)

119 120 amen

Posted by: phoenixgirl....rip maverick the orange dog at January 16, 2012 07:53 AM (Ho2rs)

120 GOP voters have had their bellies full of compassionate conservatives. 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 16, 2012 11:48 AM (Ec6wH)

Compassionate conservatism was sooooo 2000. Competent communism is the slogan for winning the future.

Posted by: Comrade Mitt at January 16, 2012 07:53 AM (hGb5f)

121

I am not a Paul supporter, and I think the Alex Jones show appearances and strange bedfellows are a sign of awful judgement and a conspiratorial mind. He is not naive and knows exactly who he is communicating with on these shows and in these networks.

On the other hand, we need these votes if we are going to win in November. We can't lose 10% - 13% of the Republican vote and win this election with all of Romney's other electability issues. I don't think it helps calling strong Paul supporters racists and pushing them completely out of the party.

Posted by: Paper at January 16, 2012 07:54 AM (IvlIt)

122 85 There is a large range of foreign policy feelings between Ron Paul style 'non-interventionism' and the type of nation-building that we have engaged in that many people think is unsuccessful. Many military people don't support the latter, and so they are drawn to one of the only candidates that says that. It doesn't necessarily mean that they support Paul's Alex Jones nuttery. Also, most people in our military are young, a demographic group Paul does well among. Add into that the more libertarian political views of people in this age group. Posted by: Paper at January 16, 2012 11:42 AM (IvlIt) Repeated for truth. I am definitely not an isolationist, we friends to protect, but we should not be the World Police, extending freedom where it's not wanted.

Posted by: GergS at January 16, 2012 07:54 AM (dptRY)

123 I wonder if Paul staying in the race makes Mitt run as a conservative longer than he would otherwise. If he switches too quickly to run to the center, Paul will still be in the race as a protest vote.

Paul is going to stay in the race no matter what.  He does not and did not ever have any intention of winning- he said as much himself.

He's simply looking for more paying converts to the Chemtrail Cult of Paul.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 16, 2012 07:54 AM (SY2Kh)

124 So far the voters have done a pretty good job discarding the weak candidates.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 16, 2012 11:45 AM (niZvt)

If we discarded all the weak candidates, who would be left?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 16, 2012 07:54 AM (jucos)

125 Because he voices so many opinions that are vile

Its not really him though, its the voices he hears in his head talking that shit.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 16, 2012 07:54 AM (Ah2mS)

126 Posted by: RioBravo at January 16, 2012 11:51 AM (eEfYn) I'm saying that in the 5 years I have been in, I have not found most people opposed to the USA having an agressive foreign policy, including using our Military over seas when needed. The usual complaint is over tactics. They recognize that allowing many of these cancers to grow and fester overseas will only come back to bite us if we ignore them.

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 16, 2012 07:54 AM (i6RpT)

127 So if our troops support Ron Paul more than any other candidate, by the reasoning here at AoS, our troops MUST be "isolationists, racists, and Jew bashers.   I'm sure most in the military also agree with Paul that Bradley Manning is a hero.   Actually, that doesn't make sense or they'd spend all day screwing themselves, literally and figuratively.

Posted by: The Lone Lemon at January 16, 2012 07:55 AM (xXhWA)

128 I don't know you can call Huntsman 'demonstrably more conservative than Romney'.

Huntsman had it fairly easy.  He was governor of what is probably the most consistently conservative state in the country.  He didn't have baying packs of Masshole Democrats to deal with. 

And when Obama swept into office with what appeared to be the Mandate For The Ages, who was one of the first to jump on his coattails?

So yes, Huntsman talks a good fiscal-con game and some of his tax proposals were actually sane.   But comparisons to Romney are a little bit apples-and-oranges, or at least mandarin vs navel.

And I won't vote for an unrepentant warmist no matter what, because anyone who can sit through the Climategate releases and everything else that's come out since 2009 and still proclaim the infallibility of the climate-science clique lacks the judgment for high executive office.

Posted by: JEM at January 16, 2012 07:55 AM (o+SC1)

129 Cunning Corporatism!!!

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 16, 2012 07:55 AM (Ec6wH)

130 Drink the profits.  Made enough going short on the Huntsman Intrade contract to buy a few rounds tonight.

Posted by: Bob Saget at January 16, 2012 07:56 AM (SDkq3)

131 Mean-spirited Mercantilism!!!

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 16, 2012 07:56 AM (Ec6wH)

132

"It is about tone as well. There are plenty of Republican voters who agree with Huntsman on civil unions or evolution who don't care for someone who speaks to large groups of people (e.g. religious conservatives) like they are idiots.

It shows poor judgement and temperment."

Well said. I don't mind someone "telling it like it is" as they see it, but if you are asking to be the President of the US, you need to be capable of doing this without being condescending and alienating people who might be (and might like to be) allies. 

Conservatives are talked down to, sneered at, and lectured every day by the MSM, Democrats, the entertainment world, etc. Playing the "maverick" role isn't "straight talk" or "courageous". It's like shooting fish in a barrel.

I try to be a rational guy but I have a real low tolerance for purported conservatives or "moderates" who always seem to reserve their sharpest barbs for conservatives and Republicans, while giving liberals and Democrats the benefit of the doubt.

Posted by: RM at January 16, 2012 07:57 AM (TRsME)

133 127 So far the voters have done a pretty good job discarding the weak candidates. Posted by: CoolCzech at January 16, 2012 11:45 AM (niZvt) If we discarded all the weak candidates, who would be left? Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 16, 2012 11:54 AM (jucos) Hey, some conservatives regretted Haley Barbour didn't run, and look how HE turned out...

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 16, 2012 07:58 AM (niZvt)

134 I'm personally glad he put evolution and global warming together. They belong together.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at January 16, 2012 07:58 AM (AlYnQ)

135
所有中文 Jon Huntsman 所有中文字 asshole.

Posted by: President Hu Jintao at January 16, 2012 07:58 AM (TkGkA)

136 So Paul's people are gaming the contribution disclosure?? would be very easy to do...no one checks up on that.

Posted by: jeanne! with two N's and an E at January 16, 2012 07:58 AM (GdalM)

137 And I won't vote for an unrepentant warmist no matter what, because anyone who can sit through the Climategate releases and everything else that's come out since 2009 and still proclaim the infallibility of the climate-science clique lacks the judgment for high executive office.

Posted by: JEM at January 16, 2012 11:55 AM (o+SC1)

We won't need your vote anyway, rube.

Posted by: Mittens, Gaia Cultist at January 16, 2012 07:58 AM (hGb5f)

138 >> That brings up an interesting question. Both Michelle Bachman and Herman Cain "suspended" their campaigns. They did not endorse any other candidate. Makes you wonder if they plan to re enter the race. It's unconventional but nothing about this race has been conventional. As did Huntsman. It's all about pulling federal matching dollars from the teat of the brokest nation in the world while claiming to be fiscally conservative.

Posted by: Andy at January 16, 2012 07:59 AM (XG+Mn)

139 andy they are all assholes

Posted by: phoenixgirl....rip maverick the orange dog at January 16, 2012 08:00 AM (Ho2rs)

140 Its not really him though, its the voices he hears in his head talking that shit.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 16, 2012 11:54 AM (Ah2mS)

Pipe down, human. You're not supposed to know that.

Posted by: Legion at January 16, 2012 08:00 AM (dA8Ib)

141 I'm sure most in the military also agree with Paul that Bradley Manning is a hero.

Don't forget their support for Cynthia McKinney, the idea that we f'ked up in fighting the Korean War, and that Roosevelt knew about Pearl Harbor beforehand.

Posted by: AD at January 16, 2012 08:00 AM (v5FAc)

142 Made enough going short on the Huntsman Intrade contract to buy a few rounds tonight.

That was like betting Secretariat to show in a race with a bunch of nags headed to the glue factory.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 16, 2012 08:00 AM (Ah2mS)

143

Wierd guy makes wierd endorsement. 

My enthusiasm is curbed.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at January 16, 2012 08:01 AM (epBek)

144 Hey.

Just got back from the doctor.  Diagnosis: cancer.  Going in for a second opinion.

I'm 32.

Maybe people could spare me the lame "Jeff B. sucks Mitt Romney's cock" schtick for a week or so, okay?  Leaving aside the fact that it's played-out, I'm having a bad enough fucking day without seeing people gratuitously bringing up my name in threads I haven't even participated in to call me a faggot.

Posted by: Jeff B. at January 16, 2012 08:01 AM (23Ios)

145 >> On the other hand, we need these votes if we are going to win in November. We can't lose 10% - 13% of the Republican vote and win this election with all of Romney's other electability issues. I don't think it helps calling strong Paul supporters racists and pushing them completely out of the party. Dude, that racist old crank endorsed Cynthia McKinney in 2008. You really think those are GOP votes?

Posted by: Andy at January 16, 2012 08:01 AM (XG+Mn)

146 That was like betting Secretariat to show in a race with a bunch of nags headed to the glue factory. Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 16, 2012 12:00 PM (Ah2mS) Actually Sham was a pretty good horse

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 16, 2012 08:02 AM (i6RpT)

147 It's all about pulling federal matching dollars from the teat of the brokest nation in the world while claiming to be fiscally conservative.

We need to get rid of that federal matching shit next year as a start.

Posted by: RioBravo at January 16, 2012 08:02 AM (eEfYn)

148 {{jeffb}} so sorry to hear that.....what kind?

Posted by: phoenixgirl....rip maverick the orange dog at January 16, 2012 08:02 AM (Ho2rs)

149

Posted by: Jeff B. at January 16, 2012 12:01 PM (23Ios)


hey Jeff B., that is too bad man

Posted by: chemjeff at January 16, 2012 08:03 AM (qVUxp)

150 Hey JeffB.  I will be praying for you.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 16, 2012 08:03 AM (jucos)

151 Jeff B.  I'm so sorry to hear that!  Saying prayers for you.

Posted by: Tami at January 16, 2012 08:03 AM (X6akg)

152 Hey.

Just got back from the doctor.  Diagnosis: cancer.  Going in for a second opinion.

I'm 32.

Shit.  Sorry to hear that man.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 16, 2012 08:04 AM (SY2Kh)

153
Because he voices so many opinions that are vile

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 16, 2012 11:50 AM (i6RpT)


Sorry, wrote that sloppy.  I mean the 'small government, cut federal spending' that he pays lip service to.  He doesn't have the record on those issues to wipe out his racist-newsletter-publishing conspiracy-mongering or toxic foreign policy.

Posted by: nickless at January 16, 2012 08:05 AM (MMC8r)

154

Posted this on another thread but worth repeating. From Insty:

This is not a "Vote-For" election. This is a "Vote-Against" election. This is not a "Sit-It-Out-And-Pout" election. This is a "Get-Obama-Out" election. That is what it is about and that is all it is about.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at January 16, 2012 08:05 AM (mFxQX)

155

Jeff B,

Tough way to start the day for sure. Hang in. Lots of people are thinking of you. 

Posted by: RM at January 16, 2012 08:05 AM (TRsME)

156 Damn, Jeff B. sorry to hear that. Prayers sent.

Posted by: Andy at January 16, 2012 08:05 AM (XG+Mn)

157 @148 - 'endorsed Cynthia McKinney'.

Thereby disproving the 'racist' and doubling-down on the 'crank'?

Posted by: JEM at January 16, 2012 08:05 AM (o+SC1)

158 Cancer is for faggots!

Posted by: Westboro Baptist Chrch asshole at January 16, 2012 08:06 AM (eEfYn)

159

#148

There are more Republican Paul voters for Paul now than in 2008. It would be nice for Paul to get behind the Republican candidate rather than flirting with everyone from McKinney to Chuck Baldwin. A certain tone towards Paul supporters makes it impossible because any support from Paul would seem like an epic sellout.

He will probably do whatever he wants anyway, but it would be nice for him to use his enthusiam to talk about the realities of politics and the importance of winning this election.

Posted by: Paper at January 16, 2012 08:06 AM (IvlIt)

160 Jeff B., kick that cancer's ass right on out of you.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 16, 2012 08:06 AM (4q5tP)

161

Co-Chair of the Mccain 2008 campaign endorses Romney.

Posted by:  Dat 'ol Rota Fortunae

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 16, 2012 08:06 AM (3wBRE)

162

So sayonara Jonny.  And it should be spelled 'John.' Fags drop the 'h.' 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 16, 2012 11:52 AM (Ec6wH)


Fuck you on behalf of Jon Voight, Jon Pertwee, and my whole family.

Posted by: nickless at January 16, 2012 08:06 AM (MMC8r)

163 On a lighter note, President Obama announces he's gay. Says he married Michelle because he thought she was a man. Has no idea why she's so angry.

Posted by: Cricket at January 16, 2012 08:07 AM (ktqBU)

164 >>>Tough way to start the day for sure. Hang in. Lots of people are thinking of you.

Well, it does kind of make me feel better about the cigarette I'm about to go smoke.  Hey, at least it wasn't my lungs!

Posted by: Jeff B. at January 16, 2012 08:08 AM (23Ios)

165

Jeff, sorry to hear that.

Just remember that it's not a death sentence.

Posted by: ErikW at January 16, 2012 08:09 AM (dA8Ib)

166

Stay strong Jeff. A positive outlook will help you immensely, and you live in the greatest country in the world with the greatest physicians in the world.

Rejoice in hope, be patient in tribulation, be constant in prayer.

Posted by: Paper at January 16, 2012 08:09 AM (IvlIt)

167 Posted by: Jeff B. at January 16, 2012 12:01 PM (23Ios)

Prayers are with you, dude.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at January 16, 2012 08:09 AM (AlYnQ)

168 Jeff B., I'm sorry if you really have cancer, but that's an awfully hostile tone to take for someone who just got the news. No offense, but this is the internet. People can say whatever they want, doesn't necessarily mean it's true. All I'm saying is, if you came here for sympathy, don't be such a jerk about it, ok?

Posted by: BurtTC at January 16, 2012 08:09 AM (Gc/Qi)

169

Okay a couple of things.  First off, Huntsman's total l failure to at least attempt to cater to Conservatives is strange.  His derisive comments and sarcasm should have been aimed at Liberals not Conservatives.  I have to wonder just how good he was as an Ambassador in CHina.  There is more to doing that job than knowing the language. 

Second, I have always held little regard for Ron Paul for two reasons.  I don't understand a doctor becoming a Congresscritter.  Shouldn't being a doctor be a full time job?  And I have always felt he didn't really believe what he said.  I think he caters to a base and likes running as a perpetual Presidential candidate.  When you think about it, he abandoned two careers.  First as a full time doctor and second as a full time Congressman.  He's not alone in this.  Maybe people in office should have to quit in order to run for another office.  After all, how can a person say they are doing the best job they can when they are busy running for another office?   JMO

Posted by: Deanna at January 16, 2012 08:10 AM (uhPUJ)

170 Honestly, I already regret mentioning it -- I like to keep my private life private, for the simple reason that there are a lot of people around here who like to use anything they find out about me to attack me.  But my normal tolerance for the endless, repetitive, gratuitous "Beff J. is getting anally sodomized by Romney ZOMG it's even funnier the 61st time!" bullshit just hit a breaking point this morning. 

I already feel kind of under assault, and this place is supposed to be something of a haven for me.  And I really, really feel sick to my heart right now about the fact that I can't even read the comments in random threads here without finding the same two or three people attacking me for no reason -- without me even having said anything to prompt it.  Bad timing, I guess.

Posted by: Jeff B. at January 16, 2012 08:12 AM (23Ios)

171 As for the truthers and potheads coming here, and thinking you speak for your troops. Go impale yourselves on something sharp. Your "concern" for our men and women in uniform is touching, except I don't believe it anymore than I believe your hero was clueless about the rotten garbage he got rich publishing.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 16, 2012 08:12 AM (Gc/Qi)

172 Boy slow news day.

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 16, 2012 08:14 AM (i6RpT)

173 Jeff B., damn.  Sorry.  There are different levels of cancer, obviously--I hope it's minor.

Posted by: AD at January 16, 2012 08:15 AM (v5FAc)

174 147 Hey.

Just got back from the doctor. Diagnosis: cancer. Going in for a second opinion.

Posted by: Jeff B. at January 16, 2012 12:01 PM I am so sorry to hear that.  But sometimes a second opinion can change things, I know of people that were misdiagnosed and the second opinion was much better.  Prayers that is the case.

Posted by: Deanna at January 16, 2012 08:15 AM (uhPUJ)

175 Re Paul:  And I have always felt he didn't really believe what he said.

Exactly.  He has no achievements on the things he claims to support, but does have a record to pandering to fringe opinion.

The Lew Rockwell newsletter he lined his pocket with in the 90s is a case-in-point, with its dire warnings of race war and the demand for the Gold Standard.  He was writing apocalypse-porn for the bubbas.

I think he goes where the money is.

Posted by: nickless at January 16, 2012 08:15 AM (MMC8r)

176 Ditto.

Okay, you're crazy.

Posted by: Mark x at January 16, 2012 08:15 AM (ExizH)

177

Posted by: Jeff B. at January 16, 2012 12:01 PM (23Ios)

Sorry for the bad news Jeff.  Hope it was caught early. Sending prayers your way.

Posted by: jewells45 at January 16, 2012 08:22 AM (l/N7H)

178 C+ high school Chinese factor down by 100%.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 16, 2012 08:22 AM (lkQXp)

179 Posted by: Jeff B. at January 16, 2012 12:01 PM (23Ios)

I hope that it works out for you. Good luck!

But...I'll still make fun of your politics.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 16, 2012 08:24 AM (nEUpB)

180 Jeff, hugs, Get a good doc!

 If we disagree politically on the best options we have does not mean you are personally disliked (at least by me) I think you're cute when not speaking of Mitt.

srsly, cancer is a mf, please get the best care you can attain. It can be won.

Posted by: willow at January 16, 2012 08:24 AM (h+qn8)

181 cancer, the giant Sob

Posted by: willow at January 16, 2012 08:24 AM (h+qn8)

182

Can't Mitt just marry Huntman's 3 daughters so we can continue to enjoy their tweeting skills?

 

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 16, 2012 08:27 AM (SO2Q8)

183 Sorry, to hear that Jeff.

Posted by: randolph Duke at January 16, 2012 08:29 AM (AH8RI)

184 It's Hodgkin's lymphoma, btw, for those wondering.  Stage IIA.  Apparently chemotherapy may be involved.  Woo.

Posted by: Jeff B. at January 16, 2012 08:41 AM (23Ios)

185 Well back from town. JeffB good luck with the chemo. It sucks. 

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2012 08:48 AM (YdQQY)

186 Posted by: Jeff B. at January 16, 2012 12:41 PM (23Ios)
Sorry to hear about the diagnosis--hope your second opinion has better news.  Cancer is an evil disease, but there are a lot of treatment options out there now.

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 16, 2012 08:49 AM (i3+c5)

187 Jeff B.,
steamroll it, baby.  God bless.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at January 16, 2012 08:58 AM (epBek)

188 187

Can't Mitt just marry Huntman's 3 daughters so we can continue to enjoy their tweeting skills?

 Posted by: buzzsaw90


"Tweeting skills" is what the kids call it these days?

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at January 16, 2012 09:00 AM (epBek)

189 If I know the electorate like I think I know the electorate, of the 6% (or whatever) that supported Huntsman, 65% never heard of him and could only remember and repeat the last name that the pollster mentioned.  5% are drunken pranksters, 2% have a vague memory of elections existing but aren't sure about specifics like who, what, where, and how. And the rest were chosen at random by a lazy pollster who wasn't really calling anyone.

Posted by: Jimmah at January 16, 2012 09:21 AM (TMeYE)

190

I try to be a rational guy but I have a real low tolerance for purported conservatives or "moderates" who always seem to reserve their sharpest barbs for conservatives and Republicans, while giving liberals and Democrats the benefit of the doubt.

 

Hey, how else could I find employment?

Posted by: Joe Scarborough at January 16, 2012 09:52 AM (BHM5V)

191 Fuck Huntsman.

Does the Democratic Party allow closet Republicans to run for President as a Democrat and constantly say they wish the Democrats weren't so insane, cruel, and despicable?

No, they don't? Are you sure? What if they are really rich and once worked for the administration of the single most conservative Republican President in history? The Democrats should be happy about that right?

Fuck Huntsman.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 16, 2012 10:29 AM (QcFbt)

192 Jeff B, if you check back in, about the second opinion. Consider a trip to M.D Anderson in Houston TX. Check out their home page and easy referral system. They are the best in this part of the world. Even if you pursue treatment at a different hospital, it is comforting to know one of the best hospitals agree with the diagnosis and treatment plan.

Posted by: lauren at January 16, 2012 10:54 AM (w3YD7)

193 Okay, stupid, you asked for it:

Huntsman, you are one crazy moonbat leftard prog wannabe.

Oh, was that over the top? Okay, I never really got the wannabe vibe from him. I was projecting, sorry.


Posted by: Blacksmith8✡ at January 16, 2012 11:53 AM (Q1qy3)

194

i had the best laugh i`ve had this entire primary season watching neil cavuto(with a straight face...totally deadpan) asking karl rove,"who are these establishment rinos?"......

 

pure comedy gold........lol

 

 

 

Posted by: russ hines at January 16, 2012 12:58 PM (GkHqV)

195 Yeah, does this help Romney at all? Not really. Huntsman was taking what, 6.5%? I guess every little bit helps, but Romney is not even certain to get all of that... The below link from my local conservative blog talks about some interesting things on Mormons, if you're interested in that sort of thing. www.westernfreepress.com/2012/01/16/why-the-“mormon-moment”-concerns-me/ Just no Ron Paul....

Posted by: Conservative Law at January 16, 2012 03:06 PM (nMMma)

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