October 29, 2012
— Open Blogger Hi, Morons and Moronettes. Quite a day on the weather desk... you've all seen the pictures, and I pray our friends in the affected areas stayed safe and have had relatively little property damage. Let's get you updated here...
Okay, the NHC is no longer classifying this as a hurricane as of the 11 PM EDT advisory. That means very little- the winds will still be plenty high, and there's still going to be an IMMENSE amount of rainfall from this. Until the storm passes completely, the water goes down, and the wires are picked up, please continue to treat this as a dangerous situation. More below the fold...

Well, New Yorkers and New Jerseyites, this is what the real deal is like. Believe it or not, there are worse storms than this. I'm really sorry it had to happen like this, but I'd rather it be like this than a 1938-style Category 3 storm. Sandy made landfall about 20 miles south of Atlantic City, NJ around 8 PM EDT.
Sandy is now taking on the characteristics of a post-tropical low, but don't let that fool you... this is when people actually start really getting hurt. If you're in central PA and NY, you're still looking at major-league rain and high winds probably through most of the transit of the storm. If you're in the mountains in these areas, you need to plan for the possibility of serious snow as well.
Sandy's maximum sustained winds are still (as of 11 PM EDT) 75 mph (that's a Category 1 hurricane) with gusts to 90 mph. Sandy, as you saw, really stepped on the gas earlier today to haul ass ashore, and is now more or less right over the corner of Delaware Bay. Pressure is still a very impressive 952 mb, and movement is northwest at 18 mph.
The part that I'm waiting for comes at 5 AM EDT tomorrow, and that's the hydrology reports- these are going to be for the waterways through the affected areas. This is where all of you from Pennsylvania up through all of New England need to be on your toes- if you get enough water, it's going to come up QUICK, and you may not get a whole lot of warning on it. Those of you in Vermont went through this last year with Irene.
Beyond this point, folks, we're sort of at the limit of what I can tell you about. I don't know the waterways up in that neck of the woods, but what I can tell you is that this is where the water starts to really squeeze out of the remainder of the storm. I'm hoping it'll pick up speed on the way out of the area, and by the weekend, you should be in a position to start cleaning up. Please, though, don't start sightseeing- that, once again, is when people start getting killed.
Finally, please stay tuned to your local authorities in case things like levees and dams start to breach... this will all get past us in short order, but everyone stay smart and stay safe out there. I'm going to play it by ear over the next couple of days to see if I have anything intelligent to add, but at this point, it's really more a question for the hydrologists.
As ever, don't hesitate for a moment to contact me on Twitter at @tmi3rd... as many of you have found out, I'm quite available there, and I'm happy to help out.
Oh, almost forgot- I usually leave the pep talks to the greater wordsmiths on the blog, but I just want to tell all of you that it's been a long four years with the SCOAMF... a week from Tuesday, NOBODY STAYS HOME. Let's send his ass packing. I'm proud of everyone for hanging in there, and it's time to write a new chapter in American history.
Stay safe! VOTE!
-tmi3rd
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/
2012-10-29/
postcards-underwater-new-york
and the blackout
http://twitchy.com/2012/10/29/
new-york-residents-post-eerie-
photos-of-blacked-out-
lower-manhattan/
Ripped from Insty. More there too.
Posted by: Al at October 29, 2012 07:08 PM (MzQOZ)
Posted by: rockmom at October 29, 2012 07:09 PM (sgNEe)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 29, 2012 07:10 PM (vk1zz)
Posted by: Meremortal at October 29, 2012 07:12 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Serious Cat at October 29, 2012 07:12 PM (zrpqj)
some stuff on Twitter is terrible. NYU hospital has lost generator power and is being evacuated. People electrocuted. I don't even want to turn on the radio tomorrow to hear what they are going to find on the Jersey shore, so many fools did not evacuate and are going to end up dead. People in my neck of the woods are used to flooding but not high sustained winds.
Probably the scariest night of my life.
Posted by: rockmom at October 29, 2012 07:13 PM (/g5vp)
Posted by: Serious Cat at October 29, 2012 07:13 PM (zrpqj)
caption on Bane picture at Al's second link
Posted by: Methos at October 29, 2012 07:13 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: Blacksheep at October 29, 2012 07:15 PM (nvV9F)
There was a post earlier that the center of the storm came ashore next to Atlantic City-whose mayor told his people not to worry about it. That, seems to me, is going to be bad.
Posted by: Methos at October 29, 2012 07:16 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: rockmom at October 29, 2012 07:16 PM (/g5vp)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 29, 2012 07:17 PM (yJYwC)
Posted by: tmi3rd at October 29, 2012 07:18 PM (cxomr)
We can confirm that there has been water infiltration into the New York City Subway tunnels under the East River. We cannot confirm a depth.
(MTA)
Posted by: Meremortal at October 29, 2012 07:18 PM (1Y+hH)
The Atlantic City story is a huge one. Dumbass mayor did not order mandatory evacuation, a lot of people states. Then fled to shelters in schools, one of which is just a block from the bay and flooded almost immediately and lost power. Gov. Christie is furious and ended up calling up a National Guard unit to go get the people out of the two flooded shelters and take them to a high school that is on higher ground and has a generator. AC is a resort area on the beach, but the town inland is very poor with lots of people who aren't very smart or responsible. I fear many of them are not going to be alive tomorrow.
Posted by: rockmom at October 29, 2012 07:20 PM (ZSnCv)
Posted by: tmi3rd at October 29, 2012 07:20 PM (cxomr)
Posted by: grumpy momma bear at October 29, 2012 07:21 PM (OWHjl)
http://tinyurl.com/9jue5wx (WSJ)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 29, 2012 07:22 PM (vk1zz)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 29, 2012 07:22 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: Blacksheep at October 29, 2012 07:24 PM (nvV9F)
Posted by: kawfytawk at October 29, 2012 07:24 PM (JWLqy)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 29, 2012 07:25 PM (yJYwC)
Posted by: rockmom at October 29, 2012 07:26 PM (IyKYr)
Posted by: CarolT at October 29, 2012 07:27 PM (z4WKX)
youtube.com/watch
?feature=player_embedded
&v=ZAqYZ433TeQ
But the brightest segments aren't actually 'explosion' so much as the light being so intense it's overloading the CCD in the camera. (When you severely overload them, the 'brightness' spreads out. This is pretty freaking intensely overloaded.)
Posted by: Al at October 29, 2012 07:27 PM (MzQOZ)
Posted by: jaimo at October 29, 2012 07:28 PM (zujTK)
EDIT: 11:17 PM. Senator Marty Golden is reporitng on Facebook that”Coney Island Hospital is on fire on the 3rd floor with major smoke FDNY Responding”
The problem is, the hospital is surrounded by 3-4 feet of water according to earlier reports.
Posted by: Methos at October 29, 2012 07:28 PM (hO9ad)
The surge [as high as 13 ft] hit New York City hours after a construction crane atop a luxury high-rise collapsed in the wind and dangled precariously 74 floors above the street. Forecasters said the wind at the top the building may have been close to 95 mph.
Posted by: Meremortal at October 29, 2012 07:28 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: tmi3rd at October 29, 2012 07:29 PM (cxomr)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 29, 2012 07:29 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 29, 2012 11:25 PM (yJYwC)
What causes nice, sunny, temperate days then? Gaia worship?
Posted by: mugiwara at October 29, 2012 07:30 PM (XT2y5)
#25 yes, I have great neighbors and we will have some good BBQs if we stay without power for a while. At least we have gas cooking and water heating, and we have a grill with a full tank of propane. And plenty of firewood.
Rockdad and I both work in New Jersey and may not be able to get there the rest of the week.
Posted by: rockmom at October 29, 2012 07:31 PM (Ezq3m)
Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at October 29, 2012 07:32 PM (CrJzY)
The Atlantic City story is a huge one. Dumbass mayor did not order mandatory evacuation, a lot of people states. Then fled to shelters in schools, one of which is just a block from the bay and flooded almost immediately and lost power. Gov. Christie is furious and ended up calling up a National Guard unit to go get the people out of the two flooded shelters and take them to a high school that is on higher ground and has a generator. AC is a resort area on the beach, but the town inland is very poor with lots of people who aren't very smart or responsible. I fear many of them are not going to be alive tomorrow.
I have a friend who volunteered with the Red Cross for Katrina. Had lots of angry members of the gimme crowd yelling because the bottled water they we giving out was not ice cold. From what I know of the makeup of the AC populace, the people will be fine. God will watch out for them and then they will come out of it yelling that whitey wants them dead, and, by the way, where is my free gubbermint trailer and food and clothes and EBT card?
/sorry to be so cynical. I do HOPE all come out yelling.
Posted by: shibumi at October 29, 2012 07:34 PM (z63Tr)
Posted by: rockmom at October 29, 2012 07:35 PM (Ezq3m)
Posted by: Stormy at October 29, 2012 07:36 PM (KwaDz)
Posted by: Meremortal at October 29, 2012 07:36 PM (1Y+hH)
Sob!!!
Mr Ailes, I'm ready for my closeup now ..
Posted by: Shep Smith-Cooper at October 29, 2012 07:37 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: Peaches at October 29, 2012 07:37 PM (kpCLl)
Um...
We've got better designs than Japan, right?
Posted by: Methos at October 29, 2012 07:37 PM (hO9ad)
If you were in the middle of this, would you want to talk to a pollster?
Posted by: Methos at October 29, 2012 07:39 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: Miguel Bloomez at October 29, 2012 07:39 PM (wwsoB)
I'm worried about upstate PA, NY and southern NJ at this point. The lower parts of NYC too. Irene also didn't hit the coasts much but made a huge mess of the hills.
Posted by: boulder hobo at October 29, 2012 07:40 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 29, 2012 07:40 PM (vk1zz)
Posted by: kawfytawk at October 29, 2012 07:41 PM (JWLqy)
Posted by: Gerg at October 29, 2012 07:41 PM (NersQ)
Posted by: Methos at October 29, 2012 11:39 PM (hO9ad)
/////////// ////////
I wouldn't talk to one in any case, but yes I see your point.
Posted by: Meremortal at October 29, 2012 07:41 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at October 29, 2012 07:41 PM (KvKOu)
Posted by: rockmom at October 29, 2012 07:42 PM (ZZPs4)
American business should rely more on the Federal Government for instruction on how to run business.
We've successfully saved the Mustang Ranch in Nevada, Solyndra, General Motors, and the New York Times.
We're business positive and our motto is "Simple Solutions for Difficult Problems"!
Posted by: Secretary of Business at October 29, 2012 07:42 PM (lDWQr)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 29, 2012 07:43 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: TD, one of the proud 53% at October 29, 2012 07:43 PM (+uFux)
Posted by: Peaches at October 29, 2012 07:43 PM (kpCLl)
Photos of NYC are horrific. I think this is going to be worse than Katrina in terms of damage to property. I hope and pray not in loss of life.
I also worry about the chaos that will follow. NOLA is pretty small potatoes compared to NYC and NJ in terms of population. How many of these people are prepared for any disaster with food and/or a flashlight in those dark buildings? Are they all waiting for the government to help them. Here in hurricane alley you are told, by the governors, to not expect help for possibly a week. Not that everyone listens, but we are used to it.
I worked with emergency mgmt during and after 9/11. There was more of a sense of preparedness then, and briefly following Katrina for some. People sadly don't pay attention until it touches them. Please, if you read this, please prepare for the worst in the best way you can afford for future events. In every phone book and at the Red Cross site there is an explanation for "shelter in place." Do it for your family. This ends my rant...but I am a little more worried about the tipping point after seeing NYC flooded and dark tonight. Stay safe.
Prayers for all of you in Sandy's path from Florida.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky,raving lunatic about Benghazi at October 29, 2012 07:43 PM (baL2B)
Posted by: Methos at October 29, 2012 11:39 PM (hO9ad) /////////// //////// I wouldn't talk to one in any case, but yes I see your point. Posted by: Meremortal at October 29, 2012 11:41 PM
Were you affected by the storm?
1. Yes
2. No
If yes, who do you blame?
1. Bush
2. Global Warming
3. Mormon Wall Street Bankers
Thank you for answering our poll
Posted by: NY Times/CBS Poll at October 29, 2012 07:44 PM (wwsoB)
Ike did that to us in Houston.
There were parts of Houston that had power and parts that did not. People who work for a living will be told where the power is, and they will drive to those spots and work from there. Maybe even camp out there if that is what it takes.
Posted by: boulder hobo at October 29, 2012 07:44 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Chique d'afrique on the phone in SE PA at October 29, 2012 07:45 PM (d2QQ4)
http://tinypic.com/r/6iv5vo/6
Posted by: NC Ref at October 29, 2012 07:45 PM (/izg2)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 29, 2012 07:45 PM (vk1zz)
I just have different perspective because I have a daughter who is a paramedic and has to help rescue the stupid along with the unfortunate
Posted by: kawfytawk at October 29, 2012 11:41 PM
I never actually said I feel sorry for them. I do however think that God takes care of the stupid, so, right now, I doubt there will be massive casualties.
However, I do expect a lot of chest pounding and demands for stuff.
As for your daughter, you should be very proud of her occupation. She's one of the good ones in the world.
Posted by: shibumi at October 29, 2012 07:46 PM (z63Tr)
Posted by: Tony253 at October 29, 2012 07:47 PM (3yMFT)
Posted by: kawfytawk at October 29, 2012 07:47 PM (JWLqy)
Posted by: Chique d'afrique on the phone in SE PA at October 29, 2012 11:45 PM (d2QQ4)
Thumbs up, Chique!
Posted by: Meremortal at October 29, 2012 07:48 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 29, 2012 07:48 PM (X3lox)
Does that count as close to "blame Bush"?
Posted by: Karusky at October 29, 2012 07:49 PM (dO4L7)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 29, 2012 07:49 PM (X3lox)
Island Hospital is on fire on the 3rd floor with major smoke FDNY
Responding”
The problem is, the hospital is surrounded by 3-4 feet of water according to earlier reports.
Posted by: Methos at October 29, 2012 11:28 PM (hO9ad)
Between this, Con Ed and 19 workers possibly trapped, and evacuating NYC Hospital...prayer for emergency and hospital workers from this RN. I cannot imagine being in their shoes right now. Please pray for them all as well as the police. They are working in floods, in the dark, while wondering how their own families are doing. Horrible.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky,raving lunatic about Benghazi at October 29, 2012 07:50 PM (baL2B)
Modern life is great when it works. I'm a little more grateful for it tonight.
Posted by: fluffy at October 29, 2012 07:50 PM (z9HTb)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 29, 2012 07:51 PM (fgC5S)
Posted by: Chique d'afrique on the phone in SE PA at October 29, 2012 07:51 PM (bnAKg)
Posted by: kawfytawk at October 29, 2012 07:52 PM (JWLqy)
"Jeopardy" is pol-speak for completely fucked and won't be fully operational for a few months and a few billion dollars in new parts and labor.
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 29, 2012 07:52 PM (voFL/)
Posted by: Peaches at October 29, 2012 07:52 PM (kpCLl)
Stay Safe everyone!
Posted by: Chique d'afrique on the phone in SE PA at October 29, 2012 11:45 PM (d2QQ4)
Glad you are safe. Take care.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky,raving lunatic about Benghazi at October 29, 2012 07:52 PM (baL2B)
Posted by: Ronster at October 29, 2012 07:53 PM (BvzwK)
Was he wearing a horse head?
Posted by: Methos at October 29, 2012 11:52 PM (hO9ad)
I think this is Ace!
Posted by: ChristyBlinky,raving lunatic about Benghazi at October 29, 2012 07:54 PM (baL2B)
I'll give him credit for that; like I give Romney credit for volunteering his campaign bus'es.
Storms like this are the common enemy of humankind.
Posted by: boulder hobo at October 29, 2012 07:54 PM (QTHTd)
http://tinyurl.com/8murlfz
Posted by: NY Times/CBS Poll at October 29, 2012 07:54 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: Peaches at October 29, 2012 07:54 PM (kpCLl)
"You know, maybe it wasn't such a good idea to stuff all that electrical gear in the basement. Maybe next time, I'll put it on the 2nd floor..."
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 29, 2012 07:54 PM (voFL/)
Lets compare notes next week.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 29, 2012 07:55 PM (vk1zz)
Posted by: kawfytawk at October 29, 2012 07:56 PM (JWLqy)
Posted by: Paul Krugman, Super Genius at October 29, 2012 07:56 PM (wwsoB)
Was he wearing a horse head?
Posted by: Methos at October 29, 2012 11:52 PM (hO9ad)
I think this is Ace!
Posted by: ChristyBlinky,raving lunatic about Benghazi at October 29, 2012 11:54 PM (baL2B)
Depends. Was he rambling about pancakes?
Posted by: Methos at October 29, 2012 07:56 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: freeus at October 29, 2012 07:57 PM (caDgg)
So my little sister texted earlier to tell me that the eye of the storm passed over them, and they were ok so far. Lots of wind, not too much rain in Ocean City NJ a few hours ago. I am still praying hard for her and her family.
In other good news, my bff from high school, who graciously invited my mom to stay with her and her family so my mom wouldn't be alone, is still sane and my mom is still alive. My mom can be a little pill sometimes. I'm so glad that they are all doing ok!
Posted by: runningrn at October 29, 2012 07:57 PM (Uw091)
Posted by: Tickled Pink at October 29, 2012 07:58 PM (wdXri)
Posted by: runningrn at October 29, 2012 11:57 PM (Uw091)
Me, too, running! Cool beans, all of it . . .
Posted by: Peaches at October 29, 2012 07:58 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 29, 2012 07:59 PM (yJYwC)
Posted by: freeus at October 29, 2012 07:59 PM (caDgg)
Posted by: freeus at October 29, 2012 07:59 PM (caDgg)
Me, too, running! Cool beans, all of it . . .
Thank you, Peaches! I appreciate all the moron prayers that went up on my sister and her family's behalf!
Posted by: runningrn at October 29, 2012 08:01 PM (Uw091)
Posted by: Otto Zilch at October 29, 2012 08:01 PM (p01MN)
Its gonna be many months before power in that city returns to normal.
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 29, 2012 08:02 PM (voFL/)
Posted by: freeus at October 29, 2012 08:02 PM (caDgg)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at October 29, 2012 08:03 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Ronster at October 29, 2012 08:03 PM (BvzwK)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 29, 2012 08:03 PM (X9Mnx)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 29, 2012 08:03 PM (yJYwC)
With Sandy as an excuse, they WILL be open for weeks.
Posted by: Am I Wrong? at October 29, 2012 08:05 PM (DtNNC)
I agree. Any estimates as to how many people are left in NYC right now? How many with transportation and a place to go?
FYI: 1.1+ million evacuated the area for Katrina in 24 hours. The most successful evacuation in the history of the country. Maybe 80,000 stayed behind in the city?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 29, 2012 08:09 PM (vk1zz)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, wearing my GIANTS jersey, team dagny at October 29, 2012 08:10 PM (E+0bY)
Posted by: Methos at October 29, 2012 08:12 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: kawfytawk at October 29, 2012 08:13 PM (JWLqy)
Posted by: In the Belly of the Beast-Kathy in MD at October 29, 2012 08:15 PM (A5iH4)
Posted by: freeus at October 29, 2012 08:17 PM (caDgg)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at October 29, 2012 08:18 PM (e8kgV)
NY, MD, DE and VT are going to vote for Obama anyway; CT and RI didn't get hit much; NJ, VA and PA are all under Republican leadership.
And if Beth Purdue tries something in NC, or whats-his-name in WV: lolz.
Nobody is going to mess with the elections in the affected states.
Posted by: boulder hobo at October 29, 2012 08:20 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at October 29, 2012 08:22 PM (e8kgV)
Recommend that the next storm in PA take the name "Michael Mann".
That place needs an enema.
Posted by: boulder hobo at October 29, 2012 08:25 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Serious Cat at October 29, 2012 08:34 PM (zrpqj)
Nature doesn't play fair sometimes.
And while I wouldn't vote for Chris Christie for President, it was nice to see the Big Man rip the mayor of AC a new one when he decided to go Full Metal Ray Nagin and downplay the hurricane.
Posted by: Moose4 at October 29, 2012 08:43 PM (W15Fy)
Posted by: ExpatPatriot at October 29, 2012 08:45 PM (tqAqJ)
Had lots of angry members of the gimme crowd yelling because the bottled water they we giving out was not ice cold.
That's what you get from a bunch of ungrateful freeloaders. Next time I hope they don't get any water for a couple of days.
Posted by: harleycowboy at October 29, 2012 08:45 PM (+9AX9)
Posted by: ExpatPatriot at October 30, 2012 12:45 AM (tqAqJ)
Yup.... just need to point out to the Enviros that this would be NORMAL... ie no flood control, big storms, and no power.... if they had their way.
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 29, 2012 08:56 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Drunk in East Mesa at October 29, 2012 09:02 PM (rnLTY)
Posted by: Al at October 29, 2012 09:05 PM (MzQOZ)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 29, 2012 09:06 PM (WnOUm)
Posted by: blb at October 29, 2012 09:07 PM (O+lHm)
Posted by: Drunk in East Mesa at October 29, 2012 09:08 PM (rnLTY)
132 Redneck home heating fuel crews? AKA a guy that has a chainsaw.
It makes more sense with what I should have added prior.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 29, 2012 09:08 PM (WnOUm)
Posted by: blb at October 29, 2012 09:09 PM (O+lHm)
Glad Obama got a chance to do a photo op in the situation room.
zzzz
seriously any distraction to avoid benghazi.
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Benghazi Came Home to Roost Ali Muhammad Surpra-izi Amin U'rbu T'hol wright at October 29, 2012 09:10 PM (ovpNn)
Not that I agree with him, but Drew M. had a post on this yesterday. The WT article is based on the same comment on a blog discussed there.
Posted by: Methos at October 29, 2012 09:11 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: RWC at October 29, 2012 09:11 PM (t+Sdx)
Posted by: Drunk in East Mesa at October 29, 2012 09:15 PM (rnLTY)
Posted by: blb at October 29, 2012 09:21 PM (O+lHm)
Posted by: Drunk in East Mesa at October 30, 2012 01:21 AM (rnLTY)
Too funny, I just commented on this on the ont. This is bullshit!!
Guy is talking about the money being given to the states to replenish the beach?
We are truly fucked!
Posted by: lou's a girl at October 29, 2012 09:24 PM (2Nzn8)
Posted by: Case at October 29, 2012 09:24 PM (ZPlWT)
"Jeopardy" is pol-speak for completely fucked and won't be fully operational for a few months and a few billion dollars in new parts and labor.
Posted by: @PurpAv
-------You called it!....Know it all!
Posted by: concrete girl at October 29, 2012 09:27 PM (y2Ojs)
Posted by: Drunk in East Mesa at October 29, 2012 09:30 PM (rnLTY)
Posted by: Case at October 30, 2012 01:24 AM (ZPlWT)
No, I could call my insurance agent on the phone and get a check tommorow. The problem is, people pay for cool rims on their cars, coach bags, nicest fridge, tattoos, iphones. None of which I have!
Yet do not care about the fundamentals like insurance.
Yet when the shit hits the fan, they want to get paid.
Why do I even fucking try anymore, so disgusted.
Posted by: lou's a girl at October 29, 2012 09:32 PM (2Nzn8)
Posted by: concrete girl at October 29, 2012 09:35 PM (y2Ojs)
Posted by: lou's a girl at October 29, 2012 09:37 PM (2Nzn8)
Posted by: RWC at October 29, 2012 09:39 PM (t+Sdx)
Posted by: Trainer at October 29, 2012 09:41 PM (df8Sh)
Posted by: RWC at October 30, 2012 01:39 AM (t+Sdx)
Well sadly you were the guy or gal paying the premiums.
But the obama government is sending out the same calls, and you and I will pay for their bullshit in the end.
Posted by: lou's a girl at October 29, 2012 09:42 PM (2Nzn8)
Went inland to my daughters. Going to give it another couple of hours and check the house.
Posted by: Trainer at October 30, 2012 01:41 AM (df8Sh)
God Bless! I am not trying to be a bitch. Hope you have insurance.
Posted by: lou's a girl at October 29, 2012 09:44 PM (2Nzn8)
Posted by: blb at October 30, 2012 01:21 AM (O+lHm)
Okay that one contains a little new info. I didn't know Ham had spoken with congressman Chaffetz.
Did WT change the content of the article? The first time I clicked on the first link it was basically just the internet rumor, now it's the same as your second link.
Posted by: Methos at October 29, 2012 09:46 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: lou's a girl at October 29, 2012 09:51 PM (2Nzn8)
Posted by: concrete girl at October 29, 2012 09:56 PM (y2Ojs)
Yeah, I guess that was mean, bad lou's a girl. Shame on me!!
Can you ever imagine Colorado or Texas on fire, can you ever imagine that? Or a drought in the mid-west, or California letting farmers lose their crops due to the EPA? Good God, lots of farmers losing their crops, and homes destroyed in Colorado/TX and nobody in the media cared. I cannot imagine that!
It did not happen if you read the msm!
Posted by: lou's a girl at October 29, 2012 10:00 PM (2Nzn8)
Posted by: lou's a girl at October 29, 2012 10:03 PM (2Nzn8)
Posted by: NWConservative at October 29, 2012 10:04 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: lou's a girl at October 29, 2012 10:08 PM (2Nzn8)
Posted by: lou's a girl at October 29, 2012 10:11 PM (2Nzn8)
Posted by: RWC at October 29, 2012 10:12 PM (t+Sdx)
Posted by: NWConservative at October 29, 2012 10:16 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: RWC at October 30, 2012 02:12 AM (t+Sdx)
Yeah, I am the bad guy!
Posted by: lou's a girl at October 29, 2012 10:17 PM (2Nzn8)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 29, 2012 10:18 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 30, 2012 02:18 AM (X3lox)
Thats what my hubby said. When the shit hits the fan because of them, people will die. Bastards.
Posted by: lou's a girl at October 29, 2012 10:19 PM (2Nzn8)
Posted by: NWConservative at October 29, 2012 10:21 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 29, 2012 10:21 PM (WnOUm)
Posted by: NWConservative at October 29, 2012 10:27 PM (M1gmo)
OMG Times Square has wet streets, oh the humanity!!
Storm chaser ok, hes not dead, still chasing sandy! Going up the east coast, Please God let him stop this storm!!
Dash cam video scaring me, Jeff Piotrowski on the hunt for the storm, keep fighting the good fight!!
Says biggest or most damaging, money wise, storms he ever chased, was brutal, oh dear god, new brunswick. Gonna be expensive, and he felt danger, large waves.
Posted by: lou's a girl at October 29, 2012 10:31 PM (2Nzn8)
Posted by: lou's a girl at October 29, 2012 10:36 PM (2Nzn8)
Well I want to make a joke, but last night's game was in Denver.
Posted by: Methos at October 29, 2012 10:37 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: The Media at October 29, 2012 10:38 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: The Media at October 30, 2012 02:38 AM (M1gmo)
Our analysis shows how this strengthens Obama's margin of victory.
Posted by: Politico at October 29, 2012 10:39 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: RWC at October 29, 2012 10:40 PM (t+Sdx)
Wasn't saying that at all. Just giving fair warning to others that you're not to be messed with at this time :-)
Posted by: RWC at October 30, 2012 02:40 AM (t+Sdx)
Thanks, God Bless! Love the ont. You keep letting me come back and spout my bullshit, truly guys who believe in freedom of speech!
Posted by: lou's a girl at October 29, 2012 10:47 PM (2Nzn8)
OMG three and a half million customers in NY cannot get on the internet, call out the fucking army, navy ,airforce marines.
OH my goodness, this is a national disaster, Tee Fucking Hee!. Now I am really going to bed. Love ya'll, mean it. Go Romney/Ryan!!Now I am going to bed, love all yall assholes!!
Posted by: lou's a girl at October 29, 2012 10:52 PM (2Nzn8)
Posted by: Sexypig at October 29, 2012 11:01 PM (RvyNf)
Posted by: Soona at October 29, 2012 11:03 PM (ThVD9)
Posted by: sistrum at October 29, 2012 11:13 PM (SUlmX)
Posted by: Case at October 29, 2012 11:24 PM (ZPlWT)
Posted by: NWConservative at October 30, 2012 02:27 AM (M1gmo)
WHAT?
HOW COME NO ONE INVITED ME!
Posted by: Sandra Lena Dunham Fluke - Le Lady Parts Vagina of DEATH! at October 29, 2012 11:37 PM (ovpNn)
Posted by: Ben Ghazi at October 30, 2012 12:43 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Ben Ghazi at October 30, 2012 12:43 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at October 30, 2012 12:55 AM (kc2b9)
Posted by: D. R. Ainbough at October 30, 2012 12:56 AM (3ziXJ)
Nice to see someone else that understands the infrastructure. NY is totally screwed. All engineers know that Mom Nature is a Bitch.
Those transformers just don't make themselves. It will be interesting to see what kind of crap squirted out by China ends up being used. My god the crap those guy send over here. I bet there are some job openings in Hickory, NC soon.
Lets see what happens when all the scrappers descend on the city soon.
Total circus in the works.
Posted by: pawn at October 30, 2012 01:16 AM (iMsF6)
Around 8 pm last night road became impassable due to branches down. Part of road to my area was closed due to creek rising and foot and a half of water covering it. Worst of storm blew overhead about 11:00 pm with sound of freight train and much debris hitting roof. Heard a serious branch -- probably around a thousand pounds or so -- come down in front yard shortly after. Free firewood, but I don't think I'll mess with it until I get a chance to walk all around and see if there's any other 'widow-maker' branches hanging by a thread.
At least I don't own any Jersey beach front real estate. Some YouTube videos already appearing from yesterday morning showing water up into the first floor.
Posted by: Snidely Whiplash - Who Knows How To Have A War On Women at October 30, 2012 01:24 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 30, 2012 01:55 AM (+tqYo)
And I will be taking today off as well. Maryland State Police are basically asking everyone but emergency responders to stay off the road, Metro and MARC are shut down and I can take a hint.
Posted by: NR Pax at October 30, 2012 01:56 AM (96XCJ)
Posted by: otho at October 30, 2012 01:57 AM (yBF/9)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 30, 2012 02:35 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Redd at October 30, 2012 02:45 AM (Lom3Z)
Posted by: West Virginia at October 30, 2012 02:46 AM (nw0Vt)
Posted by: Hurricane Sandy Fluke at October 30, 2012 02:51 AM (d/5qf)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 30, 2012 03:10 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: mastour at October 30, 2012 03:12 AM (Xf0bG)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 30, 2012 03:13 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at October 30, 2012 03:19 AM (AiZkN)
looks like the storm track was just about a mile from my house sometime around 11:15 last night.
Power kept dropping out for a few minutes. When it came back the smoke detectors all start beeping. Lucky the beagle was one scared puppy. Took a while to settle him so we could sleep.
now that it's daylight, time to verify no damage. Anywone want to buy a whole bunch of bottled water?
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at October 30, 2012 03:24 AM (kzejo)
Posted by: Empire1 at October 30, 2012 03:24 AM (1t892)
Posted by: crisis du jour at October 30, 2012 03:28 AM (tPdDk)
Posted by: perturbed at October 30, 2012 03:40 AM (u6Ueb)
Posted by: HH at October 30, 2012 03:41 AM (v+ExF)
And hey, the fat man in NJ is kicking some mayor ass.
Posted by: Vic at October 30, 2012 03:42 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 30, 2012 03:44 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Baldy at October 30, 2012 03:45 AM (opS9C)
Posted by: joncelli at October 30, 2012 03:46 AM (CWlPF)
Posted by: Liberty Lover at October 30, 2012 03:48 AM (b4W5O)
Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at October 30, 2012 03:48 AM (he2LC)
Posted by: joncelli at October 30, 2012 03:49 AM (CWlPF)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 30, 2012 03:50 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: kelley in virginia at October 30, 2012 03:52 AM (HNwOT)
Yeah, the local tv station in Philly dragged a map out last night to show where one of the AC mayors 'shelters' was. In a low area, surrounded by roads that flood all the time. They also had interviews with the people who opted for the mayors shelters. The usual suspects.
So they had to 'rescue' the people in the mayors shelter in the middle of the hurricane. The Governor was livid.
Posted by: Snidely Whiplash - Who Knows How To Have A War On Women at October 30, 2012 03:53 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at October 30, 2012 03:53 AM (kc2b9)
Posted by: Baldy at October 30, 2012 03:53 AM (opS9C)
NO. cause those folks are pretty self-sufficient
Posted by: kelley in virginia at October 30, 2012 03:54 AM (HNwOT)
Horrible.
Posted by: LRBnSC at October 30, 2012 03:55 AM (Qp3K5)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 30, 2012 03:56 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 30, 2012 03:56 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Baldy at October 30, 2012 03:57 AM (opS9C)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at October 30, 2012 03:58 AM (ogdab)
People can still have power, walk around outside without looking up in their trees for broken branches ready to drop. First thing I did at dawn. All clear, but not one leaf to be found. Driveway covered from end to end with branches.
Posted by: Snidely Whiplash - Who Knows How To Have A War On Women at October 30, 2012 04:00 AM (feFL6)
It's not a hip city with designer boutiques and coffee shops and life-long residents who don't speak English, so why would TV give a fuck?
And remember, the most important thing in times of emergency is to encourage people to tie up phone lines campaigning!
I hope anyone who does this forgets to turn off their caller ID and gets the shit beat out of them.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, eating salad for breakfast at October 30, 2012 04:03 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: uterus cannon at October 30, 2012 04:03 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Deety at October 30, 2012 04:06 AM (QG3g9)
You know who this doesnt help?
Obama
Since his photo op in the situation room to show his mastery of the hurricane isnt going to get much traction, its time to think about maybe bombing a libyan aspirin factory.....
...or faking the unemployement numbers for a second month in a row.
Although, to be honest even an UE of 5% aint gonna save his ass now.
Pretty damn certain the preference cascade is gonna wash over him like a tsunami over an asian island.
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Benghazi Came Home to Roost Ali Muhammad Surpra-izi Amin U'rbu T'hol wright at October 30, 2012 04:07 AM (ovpNn)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at October 30, 2012 04:08 AM (kc2b9)
...
More intelligent children in both studies grew up to drink alcohol more frequently and in greater quantities than less intelligent children.
Researchers controlled for demographic variables -- such as marital status, parents' education, earnings, childhood social class and more -- that may have also affected adult drinking. Still, the findings held true: Smarter kids were drinking more as adults.
Liz Day, Discovery News
http://tinyurl.com/235xj8k
Posted by: "Because I Could" at October 30, 2012 04:08 AM (BAnPT)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 30, 2012 04:09 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 30, 2012 04:10 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at October 30, 2012 04:10 AM (kc2b9)
Posted by: Spypeach at October 30, 2012 04:10 AM (pwTow)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 30, 2012 04:11 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at October 30, 2012 04:12 AM (kc2b9)
Posted by: Vic at October 30, 2012 04:12 AM (YdQQY)
NDH I saw that too. Although I didn't hear any praise for TFG as mentioed in 242. Maybe I missed that part.
Posted by: Infidel at October 30, 2012 04:13 AM (prnik)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 30, 2012 04:13 AM (piMMO)
So did the Sandy sustained wind speeds EVER reach any hurricane status? No.
Wishful fishing, what the Democrat national leadership and media achieved yesterday is their own revision of Katrina, that they never dismissed the warnings to evacuate in advance of the HURRICANE because, "you know how much Democrats and big gov care about you."
One Voice administration: Obey Directions.
Posted by: panzernashorn at October 30, 2012 04:14 AM (BAnPT)
Posted by: Spypeach at October 30, 2012 04:14 AM (pwTow)
Posted by: Vic at October 30, 2012 04:15 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 30, 2012 04:16 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 30, 2012 04:16 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Spypeach at October 30, 2012 04:17 AM (pwTow)
So, was this a hurricane by landfall, at any stage? It all sounds conflicting. Around 80mph is a decent cat 1 thing. What happened?
Posted by: otho at October 30, 2012 04:17 AM (yBF/9)
Posted by: blb at October 30, 2012 04:18 AM (oCiZI)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 30, 2012 04:18 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Blue Hen at October 30, 2012 04:20 AM (UW6NX)
He has to make nice. At least till Jan.
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I'm detecting a wee bit of a problem when a governor feels the need to kiss the ring in order to get federal help.
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 30, 2012 04:21 AM (lTVJy)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 30, 2012 04:22 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Spypeach at October 30, 2012 04:22 AM (pwTow)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 30, 2012 04:23 AM (piMMO)
Barf.
To a previous poster, I shudder to think this is Obama's Katrina moment. A) a week before a major election B) It won't take much for people to fawn over how presidential Obama is and how he is handling it soooo much better than Bush.
Posted by: Tickled Pink at October 30, 2012 04:24 AM (OritA)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 30, 2012 04:25 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Deety at October 30, 2012 04:29 AM (QG3g9)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 30, 2012 04:29 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 30, 2012 04:32 AM (E3wUU)
Posted by: Buckeye at October 30, 2012 04:33 AM (8d6wh)
I'm gonna guess 20 billion damage in NJ.
Posted by: Snidely Whiplash - Who Knows How To Have A War On Women at October 30, 2012 04:36 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 30, 2012 04:36 AM (E3wUU)
Posted by: Case at October 30, 2012 04:39 AM (QwurB)
Posted by: Baldy at October 30, 2012 04:47 AM (opS9C)
Recall that I didn't need to wait until today to post empathy for those in Sandy's flood path from Texas. Did that yesterday when I posted the official denial from the national hurricane bureau. And to those like Christi realizing how important federal funds are after such an "act of God" state of emergency following destruction, I'll remind you again the justification for Congressman Ron Paul requesting aid for Galveston, his constituents, after so many SEVERE HURRICANES struck the Gulf region, and his political critics smearing him as corrupt for representing the very real needs of Texans after major storm destruction of life and property.
So ask the SCOAMFT, "If winds and floods destroy a swath of the country, but your property remains intact, is there really any destruction to speak of, or any pain felt?" Particularly, did any destruction "really" occur when those affected are not politically correct? Does anyone really die when they aren't members of your immediate family? Schadenfreude's a bitch.
If morons take that wrong, think again. Destruction by "act of God" hurts, severely. So, is Obama to declare a WAR ON GOD? Hell, that's been Obama's game all along, preaching Marxism as divine intervention. War on Neptune? whatever.
Posted by: panzernashorn at October 30, 2012 05:01 AM (BAnPT)
Sandy, you crazy.
Posted by: Moose4 at October 30, 2012 05:01 AM (W15Fy)
I love Gov. Christie.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky,raving lunatic about Benghazi at October 30, 2012 05:03 AM (baL2B)
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Since Bush repeatedly advised Americans along the Gulf where Katrina was headed to EVACUATE and heed the forecast warnings.
Don't allow the MFM to maintain their own whole cloth compounded by revisionism, not without grass roots recall. All those buses sitting in low water parking lots rather than facilitating the evacuation of New Orleans. And on that, remember the corrupt politician caught removing stolen funds from his home "safe" (refrigerator?).
Sad state of affairs when local representation hates its own so completely.
And as to where federal funds were awarded, Mississippi getting the short end of the Louisiana stick.
Posted by: panzernashorn at October 30, 2012 05:09 AM (BAnPT)
Very glad to read that they are ok, Danger Girl.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky,raving lunatic about Benghazi at October 30, 2012 05:11 AM (baL2B)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 30, 2012 05:39 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: NC Mountain Girl at October 30, 2012 07:29 AM (hLANW)
We won't know for a day or two how bad things really are. NYC could get bad.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 30, 2012 08:12 AM (vk1zz)
Posted by: HMSBounty at October 30, 2012 09:20 AM (jmDE4)
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