August 24, 2012
— Ace I am being informed by two or three Mensa Chapter Presidents that I am causing the disastrous 20 point decline in Todd Akin's polling (from 10 points ahead to eleven points behind).
I previously caused a similar cratering of Republican support in the case of Christine O'Donnell. When she became the nominee, the Democrat went from ten points down to ten points ahead.
I don't know why I do these things. I see a parade of strong, articulate, attractive candidates, who are will almost inevitably win on their strong moral compasses, and then I tear them down via this blog.
In each case, I take someone who will almost certainly win, "if we all just have enough faith," and turn them into a loser.
What I really must apologize for, still further, is the fact that this blog has such a powerful sway on the body politic, and yet, rather than devoting this well-nigh preeminent level of political power to helping surefire winner candidates like Christine O'Donnell and Todd Akin, I instead warn other Republicans that they're going to lose, and this process of warning -- this process of prognostication -- thereby causes the actual loss.
And what doesn't cause the loss is, say, the actual failings and weaknesses of the candidates in question, about which I am warning.
That is to say, these losses are not caused by people behaving like teenagers who think that machismo and status ride on doing stupid, reckless things, but rather are due to the adults who say things like "You shouldn't dive from a pier without guaranteeing by close personal inspection that the water is deep enough to prevent a crippling injury."
While I dress such warnings up to sound "adult," in fact these are the womanly caterwaulings of a RINO and likely homosexual. It is, in fact, those with the juvenile sense of Let's Do Something Dumb who are the true adults in the room.
Although I have chastised myself repeatedly for this nasty habit of being right in my predictions (or, I should say, more properly: Of my predictions causing the very catastrophes I warn against), I find I am incapable of stopping myself, and yet cling to this faggy notion that diving from a pier is probably a bad idea.
I'm sorry. I serve the party and the cause so poorly, and not Manfully and With Great Principle like so many others.
In this failing I join noted RINOs and suspected homosexuals Mark Levin, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michelle Malkin, and Ann Coulter. I am ashamed to note I will be joining them later for a party with the themes of Cross Dressing, ABBA, and Amyl Nitrite.
I must continue to fail you,
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Posted by: Mac Gootbone at August 24, 2012 02:31 PM (wA0Xb)
Posted by: eureka! at August 24, 2012 02:31 PM (1qHOu)
Posted by: TrueCon Action Heroes at August 24, 2012 02:32 PM (tBduy)
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 24, 2012 02:33 PM (ovpNn)
Idiots.
Posted by: Popcorn at August 24, 2012 02:33 PM (OOehk)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 24, 2012 02:33 PM (JDIKC)
"And what doesn't cause the loss is, say, the actual failings and weaknesses of the candidates in question, about which I am warning."
Akin's loss is his and his alone, no doubt. But do you remember when you were blaming anyone and everyone other than Rick Perry for his poor performances? Where was this attitude then?
Posted by: Rich at August 24, 2012 02:34 PM (TOgQZ)
Posted by: Soona at August 24, 2012 02:34 PM (Db8f9)
Posted by: Daryl Herbert at August 24, 2012 02:34 PM (v6a+f)
You sure you don't want to substitute Gloria Gaynor for ABBA?
Posted by: kallisto at August 24, 2012 02:34 PM (jm/9g)
Posted by: jakeman at August 24, 2012 02:34 PM (96M6e)
Posted by: Todd Akins magic uterus at August 24, 2012 02:34 PM (pRyjR)
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2012 02:35 PM (fxHyG)
What, we should vote for Akin because he might be the majority vote in the Senate? Do you want to put that kind of power into the hands of a man so divorced from reality? Or from politics?
If Akin gets elected, I have no doubt that the Democrats would offer plum positions to him to switch parties, and he would. Because he isn't in it for the principle, he's in it for the money. Chair and committee position pay more money, and that is why Akin would switch parties.
Posted by: Jack at August 24, 2012 02:35 PM (wUFaM)
I would rather suck Ace's cock than support that idiot in MO.<<<<<
I wouldn't. If those are my choices, I'm sending Akin a check. Homo.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 24, 2012 02:35 PM (JDIKC)
Posted by: Serious Cat at August 24, 2012 02:35 PM (zrpqj)
Posted by: That Fat Fuck Huckabee at August 24, 2012 02:35 PM (1qHOu)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 - Feel the burn! at August 24, 2012 02:35 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Purity Of Essence at August 24, 2012 02:36 PM (2EdUM)
Posted by: TomInKorea at August 24, 2012 02:36 PM (oJkTX)
Posted by: trailortrash at August 24, 2012 02:36 PM (xllDV)
Posted by: Darcy at August 24, 2012 02:37 PM (2+Sc2)
Who is he going to put there that the MSM can't help but cover...
Posted by: AmishDude at August 24, 2012 02:37 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Popcorn at August 24, 2012 02:37 PM (OOehk)
That's like saying "I'd rather suck Ace's dick than get up and change the channel on the TV."
It just seems like you're giving up the beejer way too easily. Just sayin'.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 24, 2012 02:37 PM (JDIKC)
Posted by: Anthony Weiner at August 24, 2012 02:37 PM (rPA5/)
Posted by: Auntie Doodles at August 24, 2012 02:37 PM (FA8CK)
Martina's old timeslot, which in turn is being moved to Wednesday night.
Posted by: Serious Cat at August 24, 2012 06:35 PM (zrpqj)
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So I guess the RNC does read AoSHQ.
Posted by: Soona at August 24, 2012 02:38 PM (Db8f9)
No, they're stuck with the schedule. On this I don't blame them. Conventions are boring.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 24, 2012 02:38 PM (T0NGe)
You are probably right, Ace. You are dragging everybody down. Or....
These guys are so in love with themselves that they believe that people actually want to hear their stupid opinions that they can not keep to themselves.
Which is it?
Posted by: Harry at August 24, 2012 02:38 PM (+BEaq)
Posted by: nerdygirl at August 24, 2012 02:38 PM (V/Aej)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 24, 2012 02:39 PM (k4rbt)
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2012 02:39 PM (fxHyG)
With great power comes great responsibility.
Posted by: angienc at August 24, 2012 02:39 PM (w3JGl)
Posted by: Justamom at August 24, 2012 02:39 PM (Sptt8)
"Ace, we have known for some time that you have magical powers.
Oh and Rich, go fuck yourself."
Did I say something untrue?
Posted by: Rich at August 24, 2012 02:39 PM (TOgQZ)
"I'd rather toss the salad of this hobo than return these DVDs to the video store."
Also sends mixed signals.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 24, 2012 02:39 PM (JDIKC)
Posted by: Captain Dildo, Purity Police at August 24, 2012 02:40 PM (2b4yb)
Rino.
That being said, I try to avoid giving any personal information over the internet, but for this I will make an exception: I live in Missouri.
There, that's as much personal information as I'm ever going to give.
Oh, and I'm not voting for Todd Akin. I didn't vote for him in the Primary, I'm not voting for him in the general. If someone can mount a third party run, I'll actively work for that person. I don't care if it means Claire gets 6 more years. Akin is dead to me.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 24, 2012 02:40 PM (2pG7H)
Posted by: Jack at August 24, 2012 06:35 PM
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I disagree 100%. Akin's a complete idiot, but he is in fact conservative and would not switch parties. If he wins by some miracle he'll still vote the right way. He'll be kind of like Jesse Helms, only not at all effective like Jesse Helms was. Is it even true that committee chairs make more money? If so, only a few grand more, and the guy doesn't need the money. Finally and most improtantly, no way would the dems want him to join their party, even if he was the 51st vote.
Posted by: buzz at August 24, 2012 02:40 PM (i27M5)
Posted by: jakeman at August 24, 2012 02:40 PM (96M6e)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 24, 2012 02:40 PM (qPTpn)
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 24, 2012 02:40 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Adam at August 24, 2012 02:40 PM (/YJYi)
Posted by: fluffy, Earl of Fluffington at August 24, 2012 02:40 PM (3SvjA)
Posted by: El Kabong at August 24, 2012 02:40 PM (tBduy)
Posted by: Katy Beth at August 24, 2012 02:41 PM (M2edY)
" The anti-Obama movie 2016 ObamaÂ’s America went into wider release around America today and is opening right now in first place at the domestic box office. "
via Dirge report
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at August 24, 2012 02:41 PM (Q/1Jp)
No self-respecting queer-boy doesn't have show tunes on his list.
Poseur!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 24, 2012 02:42 PM (2b4yb)
Posted by: buzz at August 24, 2012 02:43 PM (i27M5)
Posted by: AD at August 24, 2012 02:43 PM (JGZqd)
Posted by: jakeman at August 24, 2012 06:40 PM (96M6e)
Yep, Brokeback Mountain gets an A just for Anne Hathaway's boobehs.
Posted by: Adam at August 24, 2012 02:43 PM (/YJYi)
Posted by: Ian S. at August 24, 2012 02:43 PM (rPA5/)
He isn't going to drop out. He's proven his ego is to large. We have to find someone to run a write-in campaign. That's the only hope.
Posted by: Rich at August 24, 2012 02:43 PM (TOgQZ)
Posted by: Darcy at August 24, 2012 02:43 PM (2+Sc2)
Although I have chastised myself repeatedly for this nasty habit of being right in my predictions,,,,
*cough* President Giuliani *cough*
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 24, 2012 02:43 PM (kdS6q)
Christie?
Kit Bond? Ann Wagner?
Posted by: AmishDude at August 24, 2012 02:43 PM (T0NGe)
But for now, to the corner with you!
Posted by: Marmo at August 24, 2012 02:43 PM (pcgW1)
(And let me know how Hannity deals with a popper while yer fuckin him up the ass ... )
Posted by: eastvalleyphx at August 24, 2012 02:43 PM (Jpu4i)
No one would have noticed that Christine O'Donnell had shit her pants until Ace pointed it out, causing her to lose the election.
It was a LOCK until you touched it with your shitfinger, RINO. Why don't you stop blogging before you cause a hurricane to hit the Republican National Conv-
Mother. FUCKER.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 24, 2012 02:43 PM (JDIKC)
Yes exactly. Reality Check!!
You know what I love about you? Your complete lack of consistency.
Romney can make a little joke about Obama's BC and you F*KING lose it.
But Akin can say something that horrendously offends about 75% of the people out there, including hardened SoCons, takes over the media coverage, links the Republican platform misogyny, tanks Romney in the polls in that state, tanks his own polls, and you are just fine with it and totally clueless as to why we react harshly.
As a proud no exceptions SoCon, I think Todd Akin should step aside. Why? This isn't a high school popularity contest, as YOU'VE informed us today. We've got a much better chance of winning that seat, and winning the general if he steps aside. If he doesn't step aside. Our best chance of winning the general (That we are behind in slightly as YOU noted earlier today) is to throw Akin from the train, burn his crops, poison his well, and borrow his weed eater and never give it back. As you say BEATING OBAMA IS THE FUCKING OBJECTIVE!!!!
You can't have it both ways Reality Check. We can't be in great shape so Akin is no big deal, AND simultaneously be ROMNEY CAMPAIGN SUX!!!!! So which is it? Self proclaimed expert in reality. Are we in trouble and therefore need every advantage or is the Romney Campaign teh awesome!!!!! and we need not worry about it?
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 24, 2012 02:44 PM (0q2P7)
shift her to a time slot scheduled to be televised. Now I just hope the
Alphabet Newsies don't change it again.
No, they're stuck with the schedule. On this I don't blame them. Conventions are boring.
Yeah, watch the networks say they'll cover Monday night instead of Tuesday.
Posted by: Craig Poe at August 24, 2012 02:44 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: Luap Nor at August 24, 2012 02:44 PM (8HhF2)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 24, 2012 02:44 PM (MrM2k)
Posted by: I'd still vote for Akin over McCaskell at August 24, 2012 02:44 PM (DJC3E)
Posted by: nerdygirl at August 24, 2012 02:44 PM (V/Aej)
No self-respecting queer-boy doesn't have show tunes on his list.
Hall and Oates
Lady Gaga
London Boys
Need I go on?
Posted by: fluffy at August 24, 2012 02:44 PM (3SvjA)
There's always more money.
His family has been his campaign staff for a year. Every penny you donate to Akin is lining the pockets of his family.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 24, 2012 02:44 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: grease monkey at August 24, 2012 02:45 PM (VSWPU)
Posted by: Dave S. at August 24, 2012 02:45 PM (HEWhR)
I disagreed with Ace on COD. He is right about Todd "legitimate rape" Akin.
This 65 year old ten term Congressman is an idiot, buffoon, inarticulate mysogonist, and a walking, talking, caricature for the democrats to use to marginalize the Pro-Life movement and the Republican Party.
We should stick with Akin because:
A. he won a primary with 36% of the votes of 10% of the missouri voters.
B. He is Pro-life (and the others candidate were too).
C. He is the enlightened face of the Republican Party with his eloquent and articulate stand on legitimate rape.
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D. Governor Huckabee and Rep Bachmann have spoken. If they want to hold Missouri's Senate seat hostage, they can. But we should not negotiate with them.
Posted by: rd at August 24, 2012 02:45 PM (9sUlj)
Amongst the many, one thing I hate about Democrats is the way they assume that "science" is supportive of their policy positions and general worldview. For someone in the GOP to go in public and spout such nonsense as Akin did as if it were "scientific" is especially appalling to me because it seems to confirm that Democrat prejudice.
Posted by: BS Inc. at August 24, 2012 02:45 PM (P2Ufm)
Posted by: Y-not at August 24, 2012 02:45 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Queen of Hearts at August 24, 2012 02:45 PM (iuY0Y)
Posted by: Minuteman at August 24, 2012 02:45 PM (D65Nc)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 24, 2012 02:46 PM (ZPrif)
Christie?
I was thinking Huckabee. Put him in a slot that isn't televised.
The MSM want to gin up the "legitimate rape". Make them do it our tune instead of theirs.
Posted by: John P. Squibob at August 24, 2012 02:46 PM (kqqGm)
Posted by: RioBravo at August 24, 2012 02:46 PM (JmccH)
I have no suggestions as to how to modify them, though.
I'm just concerned, is all.
Posted by: Concerned concern troll being concerned at August 24, 2012 02:46 PM (smvTK)
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at August 24, 2012 02:46 PM (HPQnO)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 24, 2012 02:46 PM (MrM2k)
I'm NOT so keen on seeing ace in a tutu and tights.
I'd rather be rickrolled.
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 24, 2012 02:46 PM (cHZB7)
I will not reward this.
I will not be cowed or shamed into backing a stupid and losing position.
How in the name of God can they not see they were at a minimum rolled by Claire and that Huckabee is trying a coup in the shitstorm regardless?
They are asking me to split the party, when I backed "Compassionate Conservatism" which I hate and cost us credibility on the economy to the point Obama became possible.....
I'm serious I am at a loss about what to do.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 24, 2012 02:46 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Serious Cat at August 24, 2012 02:47 PM (zrpqj)
Posted by: theCork at August 24, 2012 02:47 PM (0hpYU)
Posted by: El Kabong at August 24, 2012 02:47 PM (tBduy)
Anybody who can make ace repeatedly lose his shit is worthy of at least some grudging respect. Akin has taken trolling to an all new level. Erg, you got nothin' on this Akin character.
Posted by: sandy burger at August 24, 2012 02:47 PM (+Gtkw)
Posted by: navycopjoe (Dem God of RINO war) at August 24, 2012 02:47 PM (Shrag)
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 24, 2012 02:47 PM (bb5Xq)
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2012 02:47 PM (fxHyG)
Posted by: Soona at August 24, 2012 02:47 PM (Db8f9)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 24, 2012 02:47 PM (DuH+r)
Posted by: Rip VanBullwinkle at August 24, 2012 02:47 PM (mMuQi)
Posted by: Justamom at August 24, 2012 02:48 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2012 02:48 PM (fxHyG)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 24, 2012 02:48 PM (TMB3S)
Posted by: Mensa Serf at August 24, 2012 02:48 PM (KhwcT)
My response is "Where was your attitude then?" Shoe, foot, etc. Either Ace has magical powers to alter the entire political landscape to sabotage the great hope of our time Todd Akin or heal the shortcomings of a very bad Perry campaign launch and performance. Which is it? I can see being in Perry's corner until the end--I was, for the reasons Ace cited above. For the life of me, I cannot see how spinning for Akin serves any constructive purpose.
There are those who live to cast stones regardless of the topic. Ace received grief...loads of it...for being Weiner-centric. This isn't LGF and he doesn't boot detractors, but some people you just can't please.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 24, 2012 02:48 PM (w6xK8)
Posted by: Warthog at August 24, 2012 02:48 PM (+FTRf)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, New Caprica Sanitation Department at August 24, 2012 02:48 PM (x8wJs)
if Reality Check is serious and not just a lefty shit-stirrer, he reminds me of the paleotools over at "The American Conservative" magazine, who are more nihilist than anything. their only principle is non-intervention and opposition to Israel, and if you're not onboard with that, they'll shit on you every chance they get. so for example one of their writers, while professing to "not care" about the abortion issue, recently applauded Todd Akin...not for what he said, but for "sticking it to the conservative establishment."
having conversations with these people is not useful, they define themselves as what they're against, not what they're for. real tribalist mentality.
Posted by: JParker at August 24, 2012 02:48 PM (8HhF2)
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 24, 2012 02:48 PM (bb5Xq)
Posted by: El Kabong at August 24, 2012 02:49 PM (tBduy)
Everybody has asked Akin to step down after his gaffe but he cannot be forced to step down --that is not how a republic or democracy works and you know it.
MO conservatives outside the official GOP banner can try to run a substitute candidate under the constitutional party or something (not that it worked for CO) but they can try. Otherwise it just has to be endured.
Posted by: PaleRider at August 24, 2012 02:49 PM (dkExz)
by the way, it's only missouri!!!! who gives a flying fuck about missouri?!!!!
let them rot with mccaskill
damn cardinal fans
screw them all
Posted by: navycopjoe (Dem God of RINO war) at August 24, 2012 02:49 PM (Shrag)
Posted by: Christine O'Donnell at August 24, 2012 02:49 PM (XvHmy)
Waiting for scores: 10, 9.76, 10, 9.8... waiting for the East German Judge..... 7.5
Posted by: Uriah Heep at August 24, 2012 02:49 PM (Wa+Fw)
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2012 02:49 PM (fxHyG)
No, it isn't our only hope, but thanks for your concern.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 24, 2012 02:49 PM (2b4yb)
Omg. OMFG! Have erg and Akin ever been seen in the same room at the same time? Layers, man, layers.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 - Feel the burn! at August 24, 2012 02:49 PM (Gk3SS)
Honestly, I want to see this cocksucker, Akin dragged through the mud so badly that he's afraid to ever show his face in public again.
You just know that someone this stupid has skeletons in his closet. I want the GOP to fuck this guy good and hard for being as selfish dick and screwing conservative voters over.
This dumbshit is such a disaster that he's dragging our VP candidate into goddamned RAPE discussions. Fuck him. DESTROY HIM.
Posted by: Warden at August 24, 2012 02:50 PM (HzhBE)
Posted by: El Kabong at August 24, 2012 02:50 PM (tBduy)
Posted by: grease monkey at August 24, 2012 02:51 PM (VSWPU)
Posted by: jewells45 at August 24, 2012 02:51 PM (UljOc)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 24, 2012 02:51 PM (JDIKC)
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But are any of them putting their names on the ballot? If not, we're just spitting into the wind.
(Some say pissing into the wind. But I am a woman and that is harder for me so I say spit, which I find achievable.)
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 24, 2012 02:52 PM (P6QsQ)
"I am being informed by two or three Mensa Chapter Presidents that I am causing the disastrous 20 point decline in Todd Akin's polling (from 10 points ahead to eleven points behind). ..."
Well, "BLESS THEIR HEARTS"!!
Posted by: Optimizer at August 24, 2012 02:52 PM (As94z)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 24, 2012 06:48 PM (w6xK
Somebody up the thread is offering BJs, and they usually make me happy.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 24, 2012 02:52 PM (2b4yb)
Posted by: Justamom at August 24, 2012 02:52 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 24, 2012 02:52 PM (2b4yb)
Posted by: booger at August 24, 2012 02:52 PM (HI6wa)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 24, 2012 02:52 PM (MrM2k)
Posted by: jewells45 at August 24, 2012 02:52 PM (UljOc)
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 24, 2012 02:53 PM (bb5Xq)
about time you realized this ace.
If you hadn't turned the crazy ray on O' Donnel she would be Senator O right now, but noooooooooo you have to go back in time with your damn time machine and hit with the crazy ray just to prove you're right.
Posted by: robtr at August 24, 2012 02:53 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2012 02:53 PM (fxHyG)
Personally, I think she was kinduv nuts. But I can get why people backed her; she was taking on the corrupt establishment wing of the GOP. Wrong lady for the job, alas, but I get where it was coming from.
This Akin dork is doing no such thing. He's just a freak who's stuck on stupid. (I do respect him as a troll, though.)
Posted by: sandy burger at August 24, 2012 02:53 PM (+Gtkw)
screw them all
Posted by: navycopjoe (Dem God of RINO war) at August 24, 2012 06:49 PM (Shrag)
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Ya. What he said.
Go Cubs!
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 24, 2012 02:53 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: poking fun with a pitchfork at August 24, 2012 02:53 PM (YQHqe)
Posted by: El Kabong at August 24, 2012 02:53 PM (tBduy)
Posted by: CAC at August 24, 2012 02:53 PM (GFIxu)
Posted by: Akin or Bust at August 24, 2012 02:53 PM (8HhF2)
Posted by: Melissa Narlor at August 24, 2012 02:54 PM (a7gLU)
Posted by: buzzion at August 24, 2012 02:54 PM (GULKT)
I don't give a rat's ass about Akin. But if he wins then we are one vote closer to eviscerating ObamaCare and dancing on the spurting intestines of its supporters.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 24, 2012 02:54 PM (2b4yb)
143 But I am a woman and that is harder for me so I say spit, which I find achievable.
there was this one chick in thailand with really big hands and it was windy and i'll be damned if she didn't.......
forget it
Posted by: navycopjoe at August 24, 2012 02:54 PM (Shrag)
Posted by: theCork at August 24, 2012 02:54 PM (0hpYU)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 24, 2012 02:54 PM (MrM2k)
Heh. ....Nice.
Ace...that is some prize-winning Snark right there.
Great post.
I for one, have enjoyed seeing that I'm not the only one who has been throughly gobsmacked by the weapons grade stupidity of Todd Akin.
Like you and many others....I know how this will be used against us, over and over.
And then....there is the Creepiness.
Creepy old dude, talking about how Rape affects a woman's body?
{{{shudders}}}
Ace....you are our Creepiness-Meter, our touch stone.
Please don't ever stop.
Posted by: wheatie at August 24, 2012 02:55 PM (mtRB0)
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The first two cannot run because of the sore-loser law, from what I understand. Ann Wagner would have to take her name off the ballot for the Congressional seat. Has she agreed to do that?
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 24, 2012 02:55 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 24, 2012 02:55 PM (zMgpj)
In fact, there are like 12 TrueCons who could take Akin's place and win.
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2012 06:47 PM (fxHyG)
This
Posted by: Minuteman at August 24, 2012 02:55 PM (D65Nc)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at August 24, 2012 02:55 PM (f5RQc)
Posted by: El Kabong at August 24, 2012 02:55 PM (tBduy)
This is all chest-thumping. The Machismo brigade wants to show It's In Charge and it does so through crude male aggression displays.
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2012 06:53 PM (fxHyG)
Steelman and Brunning can run unless Akin drops out....sore loser law.
Ann could be what then happens to the Akin congressional seat she's running for now?
Posted by: Tami at August 24, 2012 02:55 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 24, 2012 02:56 PM (qPTpn)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at August 24, 2012 02:56 PM (f5RQc)
There's some of that. But there's Stockholm Syndrome too. Akin is holding us hostage.
Reminder; people seem to be pushing Steelman a lot given her Palin endorsement, but she can't run as a write in due to MOs Sore Loser Law.
Not so much. She's a woman. At this point, that carries a lot of weight.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 24, 2012 02:56 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Darcy at August 24, 2012 02:56 PM (2+Sc2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddOk6kUXioA
Posted by: Libertarians at August 24, 2012 02:56 PM (8yPsP)
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 24, 2012 06:47 PM (bb5Xq)
Right, he lost a 10 point lead virtually overnight and before the push back from the right started, but this is somehow our own fault. Makes perfect sense.
Posted by: Adam at August 24, 2012 02:56 PM (/YJYi)
Posted by: Colonel Pooteh at August 24, 2012 02:56 PM (dN280)
It's not about you or your feelings about Akin. You are in fact correct about him. It's about getting the votes to end ObamaCare.
So hold your nose, bring a barf bag to the polls, and pull the lever for Akin.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 24, 2012 02:57 PM (2b4yb)
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2012 02:57 PM (fxHyG)
What is it about this pig-vomit that he doesn't see what he's doing not only to himself, or in MO, but nationally? I can not believe this.
I hate conspiracy theories, but is it really outside the boundary to wonder if we've been had? Perhaps something along the lines of what Roger Stone and Roy Cohn did with John Anderson in 1980, where he ran as an Independent and split the vote so Reagan carried NY.
Posted by: Uriah Heep at August 24, 2012 02:57 PM (Wa+Fw)
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I do not know that no one wants to run, other than the fact that I haven't heard anyone say they want to run.
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 24, 2012 02:57 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: booger at August 24, 2012 02:57 PM (HI6wa)
Posted by: Basement Cat at August 24, 2012 02:57 PM (jWgeo)
well the guy's biggest supporter is Huckabee, and that's less "FULL SPEED AHEAD" (although it's that too) talk radio type stuff and more the fact that for all the Looming Christianism, Huckabee's a squishy-soft "forgiver" over a conservative.
not that that makes it any better.
Posted by: JParker at August 24, 2012 02:57 PM (8HhF2)
Dems had little or no reason to come out for McCasket. Independents had even less.
Now they don't. They're going to roll out to VOTE AGAINST AKIN. And most of them will vote against Romney, too, all because this vapid fuckstool won't take his self-inflicted sucking chest wound and go bleed to death in the corner.
Posted by: nickless at August 24, 2012 02:57 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: John P. Squibob at August 24, 2012 02:58 PM (kqqGm)
Posted by: Alabama Mike at August 24, 2012 02:58 PM (Id+yE)
Posted by: steevy at August 24, 2012 02:58 PM (Ts9tU)
It's a nightmare. Akin is running against McCaskill, the two thirds of Republicans who ran against him, the "party bosses," and, you know, reality. Loesch said today that she knows from folks close to the campaign that that the campaign isn't listening to any outside advice. They're in a bubble.
Some evangelicals believe, in the spiritual realm, that once you apologize you're forgiven and it's like it never happened. I'm a Catholic--I know there are temporal consequences to stupidity. I don't think Rep. Akin thinks that. I'm sure he's genuinely surprised that he hasn't been forgiven and forgotten. People aren't Jesus--Jesus may in fact work that way. Politics doesn't.
Posted by: Palandine at August 24, 2012 02:58 PM (g7D8V)
Posted by: Dave S. at August 24, 2012 02:58 PM (M7Cfv)
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 24, 2012 02:58 PM (cHZB7)
I know Dems in NE states get away with that shit but you know damn well the GOP would not. They have to let him run. They can cut ads encouraging voters to choose an R who runs a write-in campaign or to cross over if ie. the constitution party put in a GOP person but they cannot remove Akin if he won't step down voluntarily.
Posted by: PaleRider at August 24, 2012 02:58 PM (dkExz)
" 62 Holy poop:
" The anti-Obama movie 2016 ObamaÂ’s America went into wider release around America today and is opening right now in first place at the domestic box office. "
via Dirge report "
Holy crap. Can that possibly be true?
Yes, Ace is powerful, indeed!! To my recollection he didn't even cammand this, and yet it has come true.
Ace and President Messiah should get together on a beach on the East Coast sometime, right before sunrise. Then they can have a contest to see who can command the Sun to rise.
Posted by: Optimizer at August 24, 2012 02:59 PM (As94z)
Huckabee can be easily explained. He plays simple identity politics. But with Christians.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 24, 2012 02:59 PM (T0NGe)
Oh, yeah, he'll switch parties. He's in it for the ego and that's precisely how they'll take him. They'll appeal to his ego as a man who "stands for principles" and now he can be the conscience of the Dem Party on life or some such thing. And he'll eat it right up, deciding that God has called him to lead the sinners from their sins.. He's just that dumb, as are the people who are supporting him.
Huckabee and Bachman? Both butthurt about losing to a Mormon. Sucks to be you. And you're finished.
$100 within 15 minutes to the person who announces a conservative write-in and more to follow.
Posted by: Popcorn at August 24, 2012 02:59 PM (OOehk)
Posted by: Drew in MO at August 24, 2012 02:59 PM (MkgGw)
184 And frankly I'm wondering if we aren't being visited by Claire McCaskill's Internet Angels.
i would bet on it
Posted by: navycopjoe at August 24, 2012 02:59 PM (Shrag)
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2012 02:59 PM (fxHyG)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at August 24, 2012 02:59 PM (azHfB)
Posted by: GnuBreed
I had my adenoids removed in 7th grade.
Posted by: SFGoth at August 24, 2012 02:59 PM (dZ756)
except some people want to show their support and make sure he stays in, instead of encouraging him to withdraw in favor of a non-radioactive candidate.
And frankly I'm wondering if we aren't being visited by Claire McCaskill's Internet Angels.
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2012 06:57 PM (fxHyG)
Oh sure, if he drops out they can run.....but that's looking less and less likely. What I meant was if he stays in, they can't run as an Indy.
Posted by: Tami at August 24, 2012 02:59 PM (X6akg)
So. Pissy and denying reality.
But do carry on...
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 24, 2012 03:00 PM (dcoFe)
You sure those guys are MENSA chapter presidents?
They might be playing you, Ace. Could be just ordinary rocket scientists.
Posted by: GT 5.0 at August 24, 2012 03:00 PM (3W1+C)
Posted by: jewells45 at August 24, 2012 06:52 PM (UljOc)
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Could it be MO's fucked up open primaries election law?
Posted by: Soona at August 24, 2012 03:00 PM (Db8f9)
>> Can we please focus on the positive
Naw. A happy ace is a boring ace.
The best is when we manage to get him worked up into an incoherent sputtering rage.
Romney/Akin 2012!
Posted by: sandy burger at August 24, 2012 03:00 PM (+Gtkw)
Posted by: Icedog at August 24, 2012 03:00 PM (9ScGj)
And teh reason you haven't contacted her is?
Posted by: John P. Squibob at August 24, 2012 03:01 PM (kqqGm)
Posted by: John P. Squibob at August 24, 2012 06:58 PM (kqqGm)
No Huckabee beleives the same things Akin does, which is fine I guess. It's also why he isn't president though.
Posted by: robtr at August 24, 2012 03:01 PM (MtwBb)
Hey Akin. I forgive you. Now if you will just fix your mess I will be happy to buy you a beer the next time I stop into the MO strip mall where you will be selling cell phones.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 24, 2012 03:01 PM (2b4yb)
No mero you know why I am a FiCon who was a Reaganite. Reagan was not a SoCon demi-god contrary to popular belief and SoCon issues never beat economic ones once. We have been shooting ourselves in the dick since 1992 on this junk.
The ONLY two elections you can half ass make the SoCon case for are 2000/2004 and frankly '04 was more about Kerry's past than the economy.
But every other cycle like clockwork the SoCons demand we die taking that hill, well this hill we face is the last hill and the things it takes for me to scale it have a lot more to do with surviving if Barry wins, fires my wife, continues wrecking the economy and whatnot.
I don't have God on speed dial like Huck and Akin so I send money and give time.
Evidently, like Ace I have had it wrong all these years and all the party has been missing is divine intervention.
The voices in Akin and Huck's heads tell them so.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 24, 2012 03:01 PM (LRFds)
This is all chest-thumping. The Machismo brigade wants to show It's In Charge and it does so through crude male aggression displays.
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2012 06:53 PM (fxHyG)
Can Steelman or Brunning actually be placed on the ballot as his replacement? I know the sore loser law applies to them running third party, and almost certainly as write-ins, but if Akin does drop out they can be chosen as the replacement right?
Posted by: buzzion at August 24, 2012 03:01 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Hobo Wellington at August 24, 2012 03:01 PM (MG6Y6)
She has a vagina and he very, very afraid of them.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 24, 2012 03:01 PM (2b4yb)
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2012 03:01 PM (fxHyG)
Posted by: Adam
I'm not blaming anything thing on "push back from the right" but at some point it's not helping if he's staying in the race, it's only hurting his chances at winning. When does it stop and should it be done in public?
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 24, 2012 03:01 PM (bb5Xq)
Ace is so powerful, I've heard that Chuck Norris not only reads the AoS comments, but the articles as well...
Posted by: Optimizer at August 24, 2012 03:02 PM (As94z)
Huckie is playing the long game. And by long game, I mean the one behind the hoagie and large chili fries.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 24, 2012 03:02 PM (w6xK8)
Posted by: steevy at August 24, 2012 03:02 PM (Ts9tU)
Posted by: El Kabong at August 24, 2012 03:02 PM (tBduy)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at August 24, 2012 03:02 PM (+lsX1)
You are far more generous than I am because I precisely think this is religious bigotry against a man he is not fit to clean his shoes.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 24, 2012 03:02 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: John P. Squibob at August 24, 2012 06:58 PM (kqqGm)
Ding. Ding. We have a winner. Huckabee shares Akin's beliefs but he wouldn't have dissed the whole party if he weren't God's Own Bigot when it comes to Mormons.
Posted by: Popcorn at August 24, 2012 03:02 PM (OOehk)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at August 24, 2012 03:03 PM (azHfB)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 24, 2012 03:03 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Serious Cat at August 24, 2012 03:03 PM (zrpqj)
Posted by: Minuteman at August 24, 2012 03:03 PM (D65Nc)
Posted by: Justamom at August 24, 2012 03:03 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: buzzion at August 24, 2012 07:01 PM (GULKT)
Yes....if he drops out.
Posted by: Tami at August 24, 2012 03:03 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Huckabee at August 24, 2012 03:03 PM (8HhF2)
Money that should be spent elsewhere. Like in one or two other close Senate races we could use to make up for losing this one.
So, unless Akin quits of his own accord before 9/25 your only options are to support him or abandon him. Write-ins are delusional fantasies in this case.
Understand that abandoning him means you keep your purity but have less loyalty than the average Democrat.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 24, 2012 03:03 PM (dcoFe)
Posted by: Tonic Dog at August 24, 2012 03:04 PM (X/+QT)
Please use your now public weirding powers of prognostication to make them all smited and sorry. There's a lottery number attached - it'd be very much appreciated if you could bend reality just a tad to get me a mid level prize like $50K. I'm willing to share.
Also could you make Akin lose the senate race with your 'predictions'? Because The RINO Establishment.
Posted by: Mætenloch at August 24, 2012 03:04 PM (xROTy)
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2012 03:04 PM (fxHyG)
Posted by: nickless at August 24, 2012 03:04 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: steevy at August 24, 2012 03:04 PM (Ts9tU)
Posted by: Terrye at August 24, 2012 03:04 PM (H9eRV)
Posted by: Simpleton at August 24, 2012 03:04 PM (za3QZ)
we have got to punish the morons in our party and keep them from getting gain from powerplays.
Everybody misunderstands that the donks have forged a party unity so strong they all kill their own interests in the service of the enviro whacko neo communists.
If I wanted a party where you can be as batshit crazy as you want I would have volunteered on main street in Xenia instead of 3d street.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 24, 2012 03:05 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 24, 2012 03:05 PM (qPTpn)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny & team armstrong at August 24, 2012 03:05 PM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 24, 2012 03:05 PM (j1gX1)
Posted by: Serious Cat at August 24, 2012 03:05 PM (zrpqj)
Posted by: Thorvald at August 24, 2012 03:05 PM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2012 03:05 PM (fxHyG)
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What would you recommend, Ace? I've sent emails and letters to his campaign HQ, but I am not one of his constituents and I don't know if they are even reading these.
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 24, 2012 03:05 PM (P6QsQ)
Not that kind of conspiracy!
John Anderson was a liberal as well much previous to 1980. He was paid off to run on the liberal party line in NY, knowing it would split the vote.
We already know Akin was a conservative, I'm questioning why he'd continue to run?
Despite knowing his campaign was financed indirectly by the democrats, despite the polling mischief, despite seeing the national media attention and it's effects on Romney/Ryan. Despite today's polling from Ras seeing him dropping. Despite the funding dying, despite everyone leaving him. Why?
Did he get a suitcase of money like John Anderson did in 1979/1980? I don't know, but Occam's Razor isn't so clear cut here.
Posted by: Uriah Heep at August 24, 2012 03:06 PM (Wa+Fw)
It'd be nice if you'd stop painting social conservatives with such a broad brush. You're starting to sound like a liberal.
Posted by: Adam at August 24, 2012 03:06 PM (/YJYi)
Posted by: theCork at August 24, 2012 03:06 PM (0hpYU)
all of need to use what sway we have bought or gotten over the years to encourage the party to that end, and we need to bear the damage come what may.
We need to try to beat Obama, but I fear SoCon is plotting to sit this one out or cross.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 24, 2012 03:06 PM (LRFds)
244 you're doing it wrong maet
have ace pick all the numbers except for six of them
then play those six
Posted by: navycopjoe at August 24, 2012 03:06 PM (Shrag)
False dichotomy. Nice try, though. How much have you sent Akin? Cause I sure hope you don't expect us folks with intelligence and common human sensitivity to support your retarded loser of a candidate.
Posted by: Popcorn at August 24, 2012 03:06 PM (OOehk)
Posted by: Todd Akin at August 24, 2012 03:07 PM (6JMZR)
Does he leave his windows unlocked?
Posted by: The RINO Ninja at August 24, 2012 03:07 PM (QKKT0)
It'd be nice if SoCons told their leadership to tell Huck to tell Akin to get the fuck out.
If Boehner had just called Barack the N bomb on TV I assure you I'd be telling the Ohio Gop to ditch him in 5 minutes.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 24, 2012 03:07 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Mr_Write at August 24, 2012 03:08 PM (CLkAH)
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2012 03:08 PM (fxHyG)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at August 24, 2012 03:08 PM (azHfB)
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2012 06:59 PM (fxHyG)
Ace,
I agree.....it's not over yet.
The DNC Convention will be an in-your-face reminder of what Akin said.
Count on it.
They will not be able to resist.
Even someone as deluded and self-righteous as Akin is....will be able to see the damage he has done, and continues to do.
That is when party leaders need to go to Akin and do an intervention.
They will then be able to say....."Look at what you've done. Look at what you will continue to do, if you stay in this."
Posted by: wheatie at August 24, 2012 03:08 PM (mtRB0)
Posted by: JParker at August 24, 2012 03:08 PM (8HhF2)
So this puts any potential write in candidate in a tough spot. I can see why no one has stepped forward so far.
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 24, 2012 03:08 PM (cHZB7)
I doubt very much that a write-in will be successful.
No offense, but that 30%-40% is bullshit.
This isn't Alaska, with a small population and a highly motivated core. This is a typical Midwestern/Southern state with a large number of low-interest voters whose ears suddenly perked up and decided that they are going to vote against the idiot.
The only chance is for Akin to be replaced by Spetember 25th with a strong candidate who can regain the support of the entire Republican party.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 24, 2012 03:09 PM (2b4yb)
Yes....if he drops out.
Posted by: Tami at August 24, 2012 07:03 PM (X6akg)
Good, because there have been some idiots here talking like they couldn't do that if he dropped out. Even after my multiple attempts at pointing out them replacing him was likely different than running third party.
I swear, its like a bunch of people decided that its awesome to act like Whoopi Goldberg.
Posted by: buzzion at August 24, 2012 03:09 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Justamom at August 24, 2012 07:03 PM (Sptt
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Was he perceived before this incident as an extreme candidate?
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 24, 2012 03:09 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 24, 2012 03:09 PM (qPTpn)
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Missouri does not have open primaries, you have to choose Republican or Democrat ballots. Its just that they force no one to prove they are registered to either party so you can walk in and pick whichever you want.
Posted by: Drew in MO at August 24, 2012 03:09 PM (MkgGw)
249 excellent question
if i choose Teh SARAH!!! pics i'll have a heart attack and die but die happy
if i choose da cubbies then it'll signal the end times and smod will kill us all
hmmmmmm
i choose da cubbies to win the world series
cause i'm a nuclear grade h8r
Posted by: navycopjoe at August 24, 2012 03:09 PM (Shrag)
Mormons believe that too; we call it choice and accountability. You can make mistakes and be forgiven, yet you still have to be responsible for the ramifications of your actions and any fallout from them. But I won't paint all evangelicals under the stupidity brush that Akin wants to smear himself in; I'm sure many of them get that too.
Akin is legitimately raping the republican party, and since we don't have magic vajayjays we can shut down we have to sit back and take it. Oh well, lie back and think of Ryan. And the sweet tears of the Obamabots on election night when Obama loses in a landslide.
Posted by: LizLem at August 24, 2012 03:09 PM (8wqqE)
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2012 03:09 PM (fxHyG)
Posted by: Darcy at August 24, 2012 03:09 PM (2+Sc2)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 24, 2012 03:10 PM (CrOSO)
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at August 24, 2012 03:10 PM (Mrdk1)
Posted by: Havedash at August 24, 2012 03:11 PM (ToMJU)
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What is this "leadership" of which you speak?
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 24, 2012 03:11 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 24, 2012 03:11 PM (bb5Xq)
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2012 03:11 PM (fxHyG)
It doesn't matter what anyone tells Huckabee, he's a fucking moron who cares more about getting his face out there so he can make money then he does about fixing the country. Acting like a dick isn't going to change that
I always wondered why republicans were called the party of stupid but now I'm really beginning to understand why.
Posted by: Adam at August 24, 2012 03:11 PM (/YJYi)
Posted by: theCork at August 24, 2012 03:11 PM (0hpYU)
You've done what you can and when i wnet off it was at Dirty Old Man not you ma'am. I don't know start pressuring the party to go write-in, or call and ask if anyone will even try? I am not being a jerk do you understand why a lot of us feel we cannot reward Akin with backing?
Posted by: sven10077 at August 24, 2012 03:11 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at August 24, 2012 03:11 PM (azHfB)
Provided the departing candidate (i.e., the GOP) pays for ballot reprinting, that's the usual
You are assuming the choice is between mccaskill and akin. It's not, not yet. We can still get him to withdraw (and my sources say he is not quite as "in this until November" as he claims) and we can still mount a write-in.
This is an interesting twist because I can't imagine any sources are close enough who are not his family. It's clear to me that he would rather just end this. 45 second press conferences? Retreating to other states? There are rumors that his wife is more intransigent than he is.
The only real leverage is his son. It appears his son wants to go into politics. That won't happen if he stays on the ballot and loses the seat.
Yes, a write-in is tough. But I figure we have a 30-40% chance of winning that way.
It also puts the Romney/Ryan ticket over the top. With a write-in, we get GOP voter enthusiasm up instead of down. If we want to win, Ann Wagner seems the way to go. If it seems a fools errand, then Kit Bond would be a decent sacrificial lamb if Wagner didn't want to risk it. But she could be promised a job in a Romney administration. I'm quite sure that there are long discussions, polls and focus groups that are deciding how to go on this.
BTW, if Akin does eventually pull out, the write-in candidate can be put in that slot. It freezes out Steelman, but I think we have to assume Akin is in it. Now maybe having a write-in makes Akin more resolute, but we can't worry about his ego anymore.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 24, 2012 03:12 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2012 07:09 PM (fxHyG)
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Consider it done.
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 24, 2012 03:12 PM (P6QsQ)
It'd be nice if you'd stop painting social conservatives with such a broad brush. You're starting to sound like a liberal.
Posted by: Adam at August 24, 2012 07:06 PM (/YJYi)
Some of the stuff being thrown around after Akin's foot bullet unfortunately reminds me of liberal unhingement. Call it the downside to adopting Alinksy tactics.
No Moron, you are teh Librul.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 24, 2012 03:12 PM (oY6Yp)
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2012 03:12 PM (fxHyG)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at August 24, 2012 03:13 PM (++kZl)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, New Caprica Sanitation Department at August 24, 2012 03:13 PM (x8wJs)
Posted by: MostlyRight at August 24, 2012 03:13 PM (ZG8Ti)
What I don't get is the endless dead-horse beating about one Senate seat. I get that people don't like that he's made it exponentially harder to win this seat. what I don't get is why people are acting like this is supposed to be some kind of cake-walk under any circumstances.
Either you want to win the Senate or you don't. Not all of our candidates are going to be Daniel fuckin' Webster. Most of them are going to be barely better than your average local insurance salesman.
Get over it. Either support the guy or don't but stop feeding the fire. And stop waiting for a magic prince on a white unicorn to replace him. that kind of shit is what Dems do. And at least the Dems stay loyal to their fuck-ups.
They understand how to win power. Hang together or hang separately, I believe someone once said.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 24, 2012 03:13 PM (dcoFe)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 24, 2012 07:09 PM (qPTpn)
All while the democrats point and laugh.
Posted by: Adam at August 24, 2012 03:13 PM (/YJYi)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at August 24, 2012 03:13 PM (5e6JG)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at August 24, 2012 03:13 PM (azHfB)
--ace
Why yes it did. You're point?
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 24, 2012 03:13 PM (bb5Xq)
Posted by: Hurricane Isaac at August 24, 2012 03:14 PM (w062R)
Some of the stuff being thrown around after Akin's foot bullet unfortunately reminds me of liberal unhingement. Call it the downside to adopting Alinksy tactics.
No Moron, you are teh Librul.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 24, 2012 07:12 PM (oY6Yp)
I'm the liberal?
Posted by: Adam at August 24, 2012 03:14 PM (/YJYi)
I fear you're right. If he stays in, we're probably gonna lose that seat to a corrupt big government tool.
That's why the pressure for him to drop out needs to be relentless. And not just against him; against his staffers, against Mike Huckabee, etc. Every one of them needs to become radioactive.
Posted by: sandy burger at August 24, 2012 03:14 PM (+Gtkw)
That is exactly correct. This is a power play by one small part of the socon wing. I do understand this, but dear lord when SoCons keep saying "well he won't quit you have to back him....well he won't quit" we're gonna wind up being held hostage by everyone of these egotistical dorks. Sooner or later we'll have a legitimate hategroup stealth guy come out and then what?
I can't allow Huck to get more power this way and be a long term part of this party, because I would NEVER do this had the SoCons won.
I was a Perry guy for much of the year, but I didn't go suicide bomber because that is what votes are for.
Akin is asking everyone to pretend he'd still be the nominee had he detonated his vest 3 weeks back.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 24, 2012 03:15 PM (LRFds)
What are the "temporal consequences" for a Republican supporting state-run health care?
Chuck (I now declare myself winner of 7 Tours de France) Gigantic Johnson
Posted by: Charles Johnson at August 24, 2012 03:15 PM (Rk02y)
Posted by: theCork at August 24, 2012 03:15 PM (0hpYU)
Just like with Rick Perry -- the voters really didn't know he was going to open his mouth and throw up all over himself.
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2012 07:01 PM (fxHyG)
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Proof....that having back surgery, then jumping into a Presidential Race while on pain killers.....is a bad idea.
The Rick Perry that showed up....was not the Rick Perry that I have been seeing for years.
I still think that his wife had something to do with pushing him to run, poor guy....and he will never admit it.
A guy like him never would.
Posted by: wheatie at August 24, 2012 03:15 PM (mtRB0)
Agreed.
Any success must go through removing Akin from the Republican slot. His refusal to is real fucking with my Bayesian calculator in my mind -- I see no logical reason.
Even narcissism has it's bounds when it's confronted with ubiquitous social recognition of guilt. You can deal with the shame of your actions, you use it to cover up the guilt -- but seeing the national effects of what you've done on your party, the Romney/Ryan ticket, your family... that's strait up guilt.
Which is why something doesn't compute.
Posted by: Uriah Heep at August 24, 2012 03:15 PM (Wa+Fw)
Posted by: Cantstandya at August 24, 2012 03:15 PM (mxnUd)
It'd be nice if SoCons told their leadership to tell Huck to tell Akin to get the fuck out.
Sven, please provide the e-mail/mailing address of the SoCon Supreme Leader and "we" will get on that.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 24, 2012 03:15 PM (oY6Yp)
Ace destroyed the Robert Taft candidacy in the '50s, voted for JFK in 1960, tried to sell us out to the infamous divorcee Nelson Rockefeller in 1964, said Reagan was "too extreme" in 1976 and from the '80s on teamed up with David Brooks to encourage "a different kind of conservatism." So it's not surprising he would turn on such a sterling, consistent man of the Right, who is clearly destined to be our next President.
Posted by: The Soul of Barry Goldwater at August 24, 2012 03:16 PM (8HhF2)
iow, he's a SCASTBAMF. fuck him sideways with a tankers bar wrapped with three rolls of concertina wire and heated white hot.
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 24, 2012 03:16 PM (8MasJ)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at August 24, 2012 03:17 PM (azHfB)
Posted by: RokShox at August 24, 2012 07:04 PM (r2y+f)
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I imagine Bloomy is going to have to ban guns on cops. Or if they carry them, they only get one bullet.
Posted by: Soona at August 24, 2012 03:17 PM (Db8f9)
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okay that there made me lol
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 24, 2012 03:17 PM (P6QsQ)
He influences them not to vote for him. He's that influential.
Posted by: John P. Squibob at August 24, 2012 03:17 PM (kqqGm)
' You are assuming the choice is between mccaskill and akin. It's not, not yet. We can still get him to withdraw (and my sources say he is not quite as "in this until November" as he claims) and we can still mount a write-in. '
See? Ace intends to use his powers for good!
[But seriously, folks: Yeah, I gotta believe the guy is not as "in" as he pretends, and the sooner he goes, the better.]
Posted by: Optimizer at August 24, 2012 03:17 PM (As94z)
Mike Huckabee is a not a social conservative. He is a Christian Socialist.
Todd Akin is not a social conservative. He is a social idiot.
Posted by: buzzion at August 24, 2012 03:17 PM (GULKT)
These would be the recriminations. Hopefully, all will proceed as foreseen.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 - Feel the burn! at August 24, 2012 03:17 PM (Gk3SS)
Beyond that, Alaska is more red than Missouri and the person running as a write-in was an incumbent.
Posted by: AD at August 24, 2012 03:17 PM (wMUiZ)
Posted by: Adam at August 24, 2012 07:14 PM (/YJYi)
No, no no. Just making an obscure reference to a dumb Doom fanfic where the hero becomes that which he fights. (And then he was a zombie.)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 24, 2012 03:17 PM (oY6Yp)
Why Danforth? Well, he is way more "moderate" than a lot of us would like, but he's still a "senior statesman" in the state. Moreso than Ashcroft or Bond or certainly Talent.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 24, 2012 03:18 PM (2pG7H)
Posted by: Don't care at August 24, 2012 03:18 PM (xZZ5K)
get the fuck out of the race...
/awesome guitar solo here
Posted by: Cheap Trick, at a county fair near you at August 24, 2012 03:19 PM (8MasJ)
Posted by: Hanoverfist at August 24, 2012 07:18 PM (HiKk0)
What I want to know is who made douche bag Lucas change it.
Posted by: Adam at August 24, 2012 03:19 PM (/YJYi)
Instead of tooling on social conservatives, the hate needs to flow at the two people who are causing this ruckus, Todd Akin and Mike Huckabee.
Huckabee should be banned from the GOP and any event put on by the GOP for fucking life, same with this Akin scrunt.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 24, 2012 03:19 PM (VrVBw)
Posted by: Serious Cat at August 24, 2012 03:19 PM (zrpqj)
Posted by: Simpleton at August 24, 2012 03:19 PM (za3QZ)
Here's what's going to be interesting: I think there's a decent chance Huckabee gets booed at the convention over this. I wonder how that goes over.
Posted by: AD at August 24, 2012 03:20 PM (wMUiZ)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 24, 2012 03:20 PM (GEICT)
I understand that Akin's support was marginal, but this was a primary. The general pulls many more voters, most of whom will not write in, no matter what.
[Gnu? Insult? Greeting? I have no idea!]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 24, 2012 03:20 PM (2b4yb)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 24, 2012 03:20 PM (Ov3wD)
Ace,
I take it, then, that, as an act of penance and contrition, that, among other things and in addition to the usual acts of self-effacement, you have donned a hair shirt.
Could you, perhaps, be troubled to, and would you mind terribly, having said shirt be painted a suitable colour, that all passer-by may know that you are in fact performing penance, and not merely going about au natural (or at least topless)?
As always, I remain,
Your obediant servant,
- A
Posted by: Arbalest at August 24, 2012 03:20 PM (YU266)
FIFY
Chuck (I now declare myself winner of 7 Tours de France) Gigantic Johnson
Posted by: Charles Johnson at August 24, 2012 03:20 PM (Rk02y)
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If ACE is so all powerful how come he never shows up in the top 10 most influential people in the World?: "
I feel I can answer this. Back in college there was a list (by Playboy, or somebody) of the top schools for drinking. My own school was was described as "too professional to be rated".
So I assume it's something like that.
Posted by: Optimizer at August 24, 2012 03:20 PM (As94z)
A SoCon decided that because I like winning elections, and that because winning elections requires compromise, and that because Akin even when expressed the best it can be carries a 20% position I was a "pro-choice" sellout.
Fred zepplin who was on earlier when I shouted Hi at him was there when my wife lost three births to miscarirage, and the charmer who said I favored the baby butchers mocked me.
This SoCon as the poor, poor put upon wing not throwing heat is not exactly so true. Since the type of cowboy who was throwing around "you like baby murder" has largely gotten their way as of now the FiCons look mean.
I'm a tweener who tries to play the odds, and the only thing I am firm on is I hate "stupidcon" and Todd ain't SoCon he is StupidCon.
Huck after idiotically aiding claire whether by "luck" or design is having a great time screwing the moderates in our party, and trying to gain us the loss.
Huck is just EvilCon
Posted by: sven10077 at August 24, 2012 03:21 PM (LRFds)
I'm arguing that if he does stay in, either support his ass or shut the fuck up about him and move on.
Write-ins in this circumstance would be a waste of bloody time and precious money that could be used in other seats.
Honestly, if he doesn't quit before the end of the Dem convention it will be time to let it go. I secretly hope he quits at 10 am on the morning of the Dem convention's first day, after they have centered their entire pitch on him.
That would be schadenfreude-alicious.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 24, 2012 03:21 PM (dcoFe)
Posted by: Serious Cat at August 24, 2012 03:22 PM (zrpqj)
I'd really rather know what the meeting Todd had in FLA after he chatted with God at Buckeye stadium to not be able to quit was about.
If they are gonna screw us I'd like to know.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 24, 2012 03:22 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Whiskey_Joe at August 24, 2012 03:22 PM (uYXYP)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny & team armstrong at August 24, 2012 03:22 PM (Ho2rs)
What I want to know is who made douche bag Lucas change it.
Posted by: Adam at August 24, 2012 07:19 PM (/YJYi)
Why Ace of course.
Posted by: Hanoverfist at August 24, 2012 03:23 PM (HiKk0)
Ok, Ace, this is the way to handle the Akin Problem, and it should start with Scot Brown the next time he gets asked a question regarding this.
Journo: "Senator Brown, what do you make of Akin's .....blah, blah, blah......"
Senator Brown: "Well, I think that Congresman Akin is taking a play out of President Obama's and the Democratic Party's play book. Believe in and advocate for something that just isn't true.
"As unfortunate and sensitive this is to say, it is my utter conviction that women can conceive due to rape. Akin is wrong and practically all of us know it. His stance is proved wrong by the evidence before our eyes...and unfortunately, this applies to our economy and position in the world as well.
President Obama advocates and signs into law policies and proceedures that limit small business, and large business too. The evidence is right before our eyes. There are 3.2 million fewer people working than there were in 2009. We all know it. But like Akin, Obama refuses to recognize that his policies result in the opposite of what he advocates.
And the only difference here between those positions right now, is how the press covers it. Every day I hear segments on the radio about how our economy is doing better........"
I could go on and on Ace, but do you see my point? If you deconstruct it, Obama is the same as Akin, except Obama has a whole bunch of people cheering for him And at some point, they have to ask themselves, are they better off under Obama, and do they think they are going to be?
Posted by: Jack at August 24, 2012 03:23 PM (wUFaM)
Democrat-like, some conservatives refuse to see it, because he's supposedly on "our" side, whatever that means.
Posted by: sandy burger at August 24, 2012 03:23 PM (+Gtkw)
<<I must continue to fail you>>
The consistency is appreciated. And the ABBA themed party sounds fun! But be careful which faggy notions you hold on to.
As for Akin...
...there is no defense. NONE. What he said in that interview belied an ignorant misogyny that should not be tolerated by anyone, and certainly should not be voted for.
I don't give a shit what his "conservative credentials" are.
And as for those whiny cunts that cry "double standard" they are dead fucking wrong.
There is no double standard.
Only standards.
We have them. The Left does not.
We need to live by our standards, not cry "no fair" just because they get to cheat all the time.
Principles and ideology.
Fuck the Left. Fuck Akin. And if those of you reading this actually STILL support Akin then fuck you too.
Posted by: Sgt. York at August 24, 2012 03:24 PM (Q+6UT)
I'm too drunk to post anything non-offensive. So, I'll just stop her
Posted by: QZY at August 24, 2012 03:24 PM (QBN0C)
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 24, 2012 03:25 PM (cHZB7)
That would be schadenfreude-alicious.
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Ohhhhh that gave me chills. That would be awesome.
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 24, 2012 03:26 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Darth Randall at August 24, 2012 03:26 PM (mV8sg)
Chuck (I now declare winner of 7 Tours de France) Gigantic Johnson
Posted by: Charles Johnson at August 24, 2012 03:26 PM (Rk02y)
Really?
You have no idea who leads the wing of the party you are in, and you have no contacts in said party?
The leader of my wing of the GOP back in the day was Phil Gramm, I wrote him my first letter when I was 12. In a crisis like this, I'd at least contact his office or send him my thoughts. Phill saw a lot of this coming WRT finances.
When has the "Phill Gramm wing" won any power as a BIG DEAL?
I know who my county boss is, and I can get in touch with my state boss. Had to last month to see if anyone needed money bombed anyway. Then went home and triple checked our registration.
None of it matters towards Huck or Todd inasmuch as in MO pressure and pressure to other SoCons does.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 24, 2012 03:26 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 24, 2012 03:27 PM (GEICT)
yeah hell I hope he is in on some plan and not just a timebomb....
I do know he is making the national party look retarded.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 24, 2012 03:27 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Sarahw at August 24, 2012 03:27 PM (LYwCh)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 24, 2012 03:28 PM (gznAu)
More likely, he'd call a new conference, as he did today, to tell everyone he's still in.
In fact, I hear Akin turned down an invitation to go to that meeting of Obama and the 5 NBA players because he didn't like the idea of being the 6th most interesting person in the room.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 24, 2012 03:29 PM (2pG7H)
Posted by: Barbara Boxer at August 24, 2012 03:29 PM (8HhF2)
Posted by: sven10077 at August 24, 2012 07:21 PM (LRFds)
Sven, I get that you are invested in winning and all - but none of what you said magicks up a SoCon Supreme Leader to make Socons a monolithic block that can be ordered around in a top-down manner.
The only group with that level of homogenity is the Obamabot horde, who aren't worthy of emulation. (What with the whole communistic collectivist groupthink bent.)
Passion matters, but hysterics isn't going to make things better. If you're not in MO, there's little you can do personally to fix this - so chill out.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 24, 2012 03:29 PM (oY6Yp)
Posted by: Flex Crush at August 24, 2012 03:29 PM (rn2Ru)
Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at August 24, 2012 03:30 PM (takeD)
"I'm sorry. I serve the party and the cause so poorly, and not Manfully and With Great Principle like so many others."
And, btw, the new standard of manliness for Republicans is now Ryanman. Guns/grin of steel, fires a crossbow, and an intellect that cuts glass? Who can compare to that?
Posted by: LizLem at August 24, 2012 03:30 PM (8wqqE)
Posted by: cynder ella at August 24, 2012 03:30 PM (oZfic)
In 2008, Missouri went 49.29% to 49.44% for McCain. Alaska went 59% to 38% for him. It's a much redder state, so there was more of a Republican vote to split, so it was more tenable to run there as a write in candidate. Plus, Murkowski was an incumbent.
At minimum, you need someone with serious street cred (Kit Bond, John Danforth) and even then it would be a stretch.
Posted by: AD at August 24, 2012 03:30 PM (wMUiZ)
Posted by: Christopher Johnson at August 24, 2012 03:31 PM (o9JlE)
Posted by: teej at August 24, 2012 03:31 PM (erYRT)
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 24, 2012 03:31 PM (bb5Xq)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 24, 2012 03:32 PM (TMB3S)
In addition to all that, what he essentially said was, he couldn't figure out a way to justify the rape exception, so he invented a magic trick that made the rape exception obsolete.
He may have done more damage to the pro-life movement than any Democrat could dream of doing.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 24, 2012 03:32 PM (2pG7H)
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2012 03:32 PM (fxHyG)
>> And, btw, the new standard of manliness for Republicans is now Ryanman. Guns/grin of steel, fires a crossbow, and an intellect that cuts glass? Who can compare to that?
Well, I don't wanna brag...
Posted by: Joe Biden, pumpin' iron at August 24, 2012 03:33 PM (+Gtkw)
Posted by: Invictos at August 24, 2012 03:33 PM (OQpzc)
Posted by: LizLem at August 24, 2012 03:34 PM (8wqqE)
I just got told by a MO Ozarks Bible Thumper that I *had* to reward this guy or they would happily hand over MO to Obama.
and I hate feeling the need to use that language to get my point across.
This is not "hysterics" this will alter national turnout models unless wonder boy the chosen one is isolated and kept from being MSNBC's prop.
I know who to get in touch with on military matters, financial legislation matters, and on social matters.
What I don't know how to do is get Spielberg to send a "message" to this idiot or contain the damage.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 24, 2012 03:34 PM (LRFds)
Maybe Bond although I don't know if he wants the job. And Danforth ain't happening. These days, he's a lot closer to Claire than he is to any conservative. Plus he's a priest in the Episcopal Organization so his weird religion makes him unelectable.
Posted by: Christopher Johnson at August 24, 2012 03:34 PM (o9JlE)
You have no idea who leads the wing of the party you are in, and you have no contacts in said party?
Posted by: sven10077 at August 24, 2012 07:26 PM (LRFds)
Apologies. I failed to register myself to the National SoCon Registry upon becoming one. Do you know where the nearest office is? Are there any dues? When can I expect marching orders?
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 24, 2012 03:34 PM (sGtp+)
Posted by: Hurricane Isaac at August 24, 2012 03:35 PM (w062R)
That's good to hear you are more connected nationally than I am through your "rolodex" I'd wager.
As long as we don't lose 10-20% of our caucus I'd just say ignore him.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 24, 2012 03:35 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Christopher Johnson at August 24, 2012 03:36 PM (o9JlE)
Posted by: TJexcite at August 24, 2012 03:36 PM (PNDql)
Really? Look I get it you "care' and are a "so-con" but as a FiCon I am part of the Club for Growth wing I am not being snarky please believe me, I have stepped WAY back since my peak "service" to the party but you are not a member of the CC?
Posted by: sven10077 at August 24, 2012 03:37 PM (LRFds)
Um, ace? If you have a heart, warn us that Obama is going to lose because (fill in the blank and just make it quick).
;;;;;
We'll even be OK with it if you cause the loss. Pinky swear.
Posted by: Meremortal at August 24, 2012 03:37 PM (1Y+hH)
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Really? That's too bad. I always liked him. Didn't he help officiate as priest at Reagan's funeral? And if I recall correctly, he was also the Senator that pushed for the nomination of Clarence Thomas, who attended his Bible studies.
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 24, 2012 03:37 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at August 24, 2012 03:38 PM (azHfB)
How could you, personally I am pro-life as all get out. Even if I accepted his clarification on that matter which I am sympathetic his idiocy at chasing that particular media car is not something I want at the senate level. Were this in Ohio I'd sit out if he could not be moved.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 24, 2012 03:38 PM (LRFds)
I just got told by a MO Ozarks Bible Thumper that I *had* to reward this guy or they would happily hand over MO to Obama.
Well, then direct your ire at that MO Bible Thumper who singlehandedly destermines the MO vote. But that MO Bible Thumper is hardly the SoCon wing.
But what do I know? Apparently I missed joining the vast SoCon hiearchy where everyone answers to *someone*, so I clearly have no say in things. So ignore me, and pay more attention to MO BT guy. Or maybe you can ignore him as well. It's an Internet Opinion. It's not really that important.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 24, 2012 03:38 PM (oY6Yp)
with all due respect, I think you have some misconceptions on Social Conservatives, thinking that we all network together or are part of some centralized coalition. You seem to think there are specific groups we belong to. Not true.
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 24, 2012 03:40 PM (P6QsQ)
Eh, I'm pretty sure he's always been a minister, but I'm assuming you were joking about that part.
Anyway yeah, Danforth might deserve the RINO label, but he was one of the Fab Four exes who urged Akin to get out.
Maybe Bond is a better choice (and yeah, his name is easier to spell). Or Talent, but Talent has the stank of losing to Claire in the first place, so.....
Posted by: BurtTC at August 24, 2012 03:41 PM (2pG7H)
No GoY, I am a Southern Conservative at heart. The National Model we need for a majority and to win Presidential politics requires some deference to other regional coalitions though. If things go really bad I am going to Texas friend.
I love Texas as much as Ohio these days, my wife took the assignment here in Indiana to decide whether we are going home when her service is up.
I suspect the answer is "no".
Posted by: sven10077 at August 24, 2012 03:41 PM (LRFds)
I wouldn't. If those are my choices, I'm sending Akin a check. Homo.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 24, 2012 06:35 PM (JDIKC)
You are just jealous.
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 24, 2012 03:41 PM (ovpNn)
The real challenge is what happens next; it's gonna be difficult and painful, and half the GOP will be undermining us the whole way. Pork, pork, pork...
Posted by: sandy burger at August 24, 2012 03:41 PM (+Gtkw)
Posted by: Tami at August 24, 2012 03:41 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Chris Balsz at August 24, 2012 03:42 PM (3GtyG)
Correct on both counts, but I believe Danforth has been away from politics a bit too long, and he was fairly vocal about being against the Iraq war, I believe. Or he said some positive things about Obamacare. I don't remember.
He's pretty soft these days, whatever the case, but I still think he considers himself to be a loyal Republican.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 24, 2012 03:43 PM (2pG7H)
I don't think you guys are a unimind there are formal SoCon coalition groups.
If the SoCon movement in Missouri are not organized at all how do you exert your political will as a group and why is he so confident then?
Not snark I am curious I am ignorant of the realities on the ground in MO, I have a few contacts at Fort Leonard Wood but it is not the same as making contacts and observing.
Thanks for the reply.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 24, 2012 03:43 PM (LRFds)
397 392 CM,
Really? Look I get it you "care' and are a "so-con" but as a FiCon I am part of the Club for Growth wing I am not being snarky please believe me, I have stepped WAY back since my peak "service" to the party but you are not a member of the CC?
The only meaning I can think of for CC is "Concerned Conservatives". Nope, not part of that.
Have you noticed that the SoCon wing is populated by Catholics and Protestents and Mormons? If they're not even monolithic in theology, what makes you think they have a single hiearchy for politics?
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 24, 2012 03:44 PM (sGtp+)
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 24, 2012 03:44 PM (ovpNn)
I see no reason Akin should be in the Senate. He is not representive of the Republican Party. He is vile. Why would any Republican want that kind of man to be the Republican Senator from MO?
It is better not to have anyone of that ilk in the Senate. Let the moral reprobates represent the Democrats.
We need good people, not people like Akin.
Posted by: petunia at August 24, 2012 03:45 PM (hgrmi)
Posted by: Trialdog at August 24, 2012 03:45 PM (39Pn8)
Posted by: TooCon at August 24, 2012 03:46 PM (W7oRI)
No Christian Coalition, you know what...never mind.
I get it I am supposed to defer order and the idea anyone has any influence in that wing and instead things like the meeting in Florida "just happen".
I stand corrected thanks.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 24, 2012 03:46 PM (LRFds)
If the SoCon movement in Missouri are not organized at all how do you exert your political will as a group and why is he so confident then?
Are you speaking right now as an official representative of FisCons? Official liasion to AoS? No? Then chances are, no one speaking here is an official rep of SoCons, national or MO or wherever.
We're not the Air Force or the Army or Navy here. Sometimes, there is no real hiearchy.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 24, 2012 03:47 PM (oY6Yp)
Posted by: I'd still vote for Akin over McCaskell at August 24, 2012 03:48 PM (DJC3E)
Posted by: cynder ella at August 24, 2012 03:48 PM (oZfic)
Danforth ain't happening. These days, he's a lot closer to Claire than he is to any conservative.
Danforth was always fairly moderate, but if your choice is between him and McCaskill, I say bite the bullet and don't even think twice about it.
Posted by: AD at August 24, 2012 03:48 PM (wMUiZ)
Posted by: Kelgair at August 24, 2012 03:49 PM (85l4A)
I get it I am supposed to defer order and the idea anyone has any influence in that wing and instead things like the meeting in Florida "just happen".
Influence does not imply the level of authority that you can just order Huckabee or Akin around, or that SoCons lingering around this blog can do so if they just really want to.
Yes, by all means use the influence you have to get the results you want. Venting at Internet peoples in a blog comment area, however, only serves as catharsis.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 24, 2012 03:50 PM (sGtp+)
They got their "take the beach" mode on for certain, but there is nothing we can do so I am gonna eat the nice pizza my wife just cooked and whistle dixie.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 24, 2012 03:51 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: push back from the table at August 24, 2012 03:51 PM (D7lJF)
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From my experience, it comes from an internal source rather than an external group. The faith-based community that votes socially conservative holds some core beliefs in common and tends to vote consistently according to those beliefs. Not because an organization advises them to do so, but because the way we vote is the way we live: with an eye on being a responsible citizen that puts God first, family second, and country third. There are choices that flow out of those priorities, and our votes reflect that. No one has to tell us how to vote - they don't preach it from the pulpit. It is just an extension of how we live .
I've never taken instruction from a church or group or coalition. And yet all the people in my life who follow the same set of beliefs as I do, tend to all vote the same way because conservatism at its root represents a constructive way to live, and the freedom of conscience that allows us to believe as we wish.
What I guess I am trying to say is that our core beliefs match up with traditional conservatism so it's easy to vote that way as a so-con.
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 24, 2012 03:52 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at August 24, 2012 03:53 PM (JH8Np)
I asked a serious question as the last time I was ever asked my opinion by the clowns in the suits that range from cheap to designer was about 15 years back.
From what I am being told there are no precinct bosses, no country bosses, and no state apparatus....shocking since I can find most of those online but very well.
I am through with the matter other than expressing my rage at Huck so any observer from the party can see Huck is a pariah to all but his android followers.
There were two candidates I would have refused to back Paul and Huck.
Evidently Huck runs the party now.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 24, 2012 03:53 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: cynder ella at August 24, 2012 03:55 PM (oZfic)
What's done is done, but if he's staying in the race, maybe it's timer to stop the lecturing. He's not out of it. The latest Rasmussen has it 48-38 with 14 undecided. The pre gaffe Rasmussen had it 47-44, 9 undecided. So McCaskill picked up 4 points and is still below 50. The rest went from Akin to undecided, but not to McCaskill. That is noteworthy. I would think whatever effect it had is over, so if Akin can get the people who moved to undecided, but NOT to McCaskill back, and pull in most of the previously undecided, he may well pul it out after all.
Posted by: Landru at August 24, 2012 03:55 PM (yzRpf)
Posted by: Dave S. at August 24, 2012 03:55 PM (UvR6d)
Ok, thanks. I appreciate your answer. My experience in texas and Louisiana was along those lines.
I suspect the Christian Coalition is not as powerful as it pretends, but that is another battle. I try to live within the tents of faith, but decided during Reagan as a boy the Cold War was worth fighting for so I volunteered for Bush the elder in the '88 race. It is a habit I never grew out of.
I have never tried to use party contacts for personal gain but recognized the organized nature of our political foe.
I hope things work out for you, your family, and Missouri.
regards,
sven
Posted by: sven10077 at August 24, 2012 03:57 PM (LRFds)
I know that is why I am willing to try the long game to reduce abortion.
Mike Huckabee miscasting this as a pro-life fight is assinine, what brought this on was the poorly uttered, horribly cast pseudo science, and the "apology" reinforcing the worst intention possible.
He is hurting our coalition but it is out of my hands.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 24, 2012 04:00 PM (LRFds)
Honestly, what hurts even more than Akin is the enablers.
It's easy say to attack him for not withdrawing, but when you're the one who thought you had a Senate seat in the bag just a week ago, walking away from it all and admitting it's all over is easier said than done. What does the guy go away to? He's a pariah now.
There is no such excuse for the people cheering him on. We've had too many examples by now for it not to be blatantly obvious to everybody what is going to happen on election day. There are also too many suitable alternatives.
I have a hatred for Huckabee right now that has only been matched in recent years by Arlen Specter.
Posted by: AD at August 24, 2012 04:00 PM (wMUiZ)
Posted by: teej at August 24, 2012 04:01 PM (tWrwm)
McCaskill has already ordered up a boxcar full of champagne, and the DNC has commissioned a special statue of Akin to memorialize his "courage" in standing on principle. Democrats are big on "courage".
Posted by: The Chicken at August 24, 2012 04:03 PM (w78gy)
Posted by: Putter at August 24, 2012 04:03 PM (JHWGg)
A phat 80% govt pension for serving in the house more than 5 years, and the "retirement bonus" of whatever is left of his warchest.
Its a good gig for anyone who doesn't have the spending habits of a Saudi Prince.
Posted by: The Chicken at August 24, 2012 04:06 PM (w78gy)
Posted by: cynder ella at August 24, 2012 04:09 PM (oZfic)
So I haven't read the thread (which I assume is chock full of win), but I just had to thrown in my two bits. That was awesome, ace. I love a good biting diatribe, and your smackdown up there had a heck of a bite.
This is even more ridiculous than the COD thing. Literally every significant figure on the right, as well as 99.99% of every day Republicans have told this jackass to pack it up because he has zero chance. The other 0.01% then proceed to blame the rest of us (but mostly you, ace) for pointing out Akin's glaring idiocy. As if there's anyone in the country who hasn't already heard his retarded statements.
Posted by: OSUsux at August 24, 2012 04:14 PM (vD8J3)
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You can be sorry but you can't claim the credit for unscientific poling, shitty candidates and corruption in ballot stuffing.
Posted by: sTevo at August 24, 2012 04:26 PM (VMcEw)
Dear The Internet,
I haven't been keeping up with this whole thing around here lately. And since I don't know what this whole post was about or who it was aimed at, I will simply assume it was entirely against whatever silly thing I'm thinking at the moment and hold it against all of you.
You rotten bastards, you. It's all your fault, whatever the problem is.
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Posted by: cynder ella at August 24, 2012 04:53 PM (oZfic)
Thanks, Ace.
I guess you're the witch
I did send a very nice message to Mr. Akin, imploring him not to hurt the pro-life cause - which he is doing by staying in the race. I impressed upon him that there are other routes for him to be an advocate and that politics is no longer a viable route. For him to believe that he MUST be a legislator in order to stand up for what he believes (which I think is still the pretense) shows nothing but pride and personal ambition. There is nothing honorable in what he is doing.
I relayed my experience in writing to then-Senator Clinton begging her to vote for the Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act. I was even-handed, with the naive hope of making an impact on her thinking, setting out the basic rationality of stopping those very late term abortions. I received back the form letter response with staff initials. And of course she voted against it. I feel similar about Akin as I did to Clinton. They only care about their own ambitions and stark ideologies.
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Posted by: Cashin at August 24, 2012 05:52 PM (X3awm)
Time to focus on other races.
Posted by: Cashin at August 24, 2012 09:52 PM (X3awm)
Well the thing is that I don't really want a write-in as a way to win the senate seat. That I consider a loss as long as Akin stays in. What I think a write-in will do, and others perhaps see it this way as well, is energize enough voters who may have become disenfranchised by Akin, to still get out to the polls to still vote for Romney.
Posted by: buzzion at August 24, 2012 05:55 PM (GULKT)
Invitation, please.
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Your friend,
John
Posted by: GenghisJohn at August 25, 2012 03:02 AM (npX7n)
I am about as Pro-Life as you can be, very conservative and female. I am outraged at Akin's remarks. I don't see that he just misspoke one word. His whole message was callous to women who have suffered the horror of rape and ridiculously uneducated as to the ability to conceive as a result .
His refusal to see how this impacts not only his campaign but the national implications makes him unworthy to hold office in my opinion. His denial is mind boggling to me. Then his attempt to blame the situation on the liberal elites further reduces any respect for the man. This is not the kind of person we need making decisions for our country. Sadly we don't need Claire Mc either.
Posted by: Denise at August 25, 2012 04:40 AM (TeKfL)
I hear ya, Denise. I'm a female MO voter and voted for Akin in the primary, even though he's much farther to the right than I am.
It also boils down to the fact that I cannot vote for a total idiot. I can live with voting for someone and then realize that they're an idiot AFTER the fact, but in good conscience, just can't knowingly vote for someone that stupid. He is clueless, ignorant, self absorbed, selfish and would be absolutely ineffective in DC.
And yup, now we're screwed because our choice is: vote for the far left disaster Claire or vote for the far right idiot Akin.
To the folks trolling ace: Do you live so far in your alternate reality that you can't see that this isnt' about principle it's about someone being so boneheadedly dumb about basic life facts AND how politics works, that he can't possibly be someone that anyone with a drop of intellect could get next to?
The only benefit that I can see before Akin is relegated to the dustbin of obscurity is that perhaps he could reveal where that uterus control switch is and illuminate the rest of us because that would completely solve the problem of abortion and the need for birth control.
Posted by: tired at August 25, 2012 05:55 AM (wWFt6)
Posted by: Penultimatum at August 25, 2012 06:14 AM (EEUs4)
Ace, you bastard,
How could you fail to lend your critical support to such a principled intellectual heavy weight like Todd Akin. It's now obvious to all that if not for your Benedict Arnold behavior, Akin would be at least tied in the polls. All you had to do was tell a teensie-tiny lie and pretend that what Martian Akin said wasn't really all that bad and that we just need to stick by him. Had you done that, this whole catastrophe (otherwise known as Akin's disastrous candidacy) would have been avoided.
But noooooooo. You just had to ruin everything by announcing to the world that Akin is utterly radioactive. Once you weighed in, even Fox News had no choice but to cover the Akin story. No one would have noticed had you just kept your yap shut.
So, I'm afraid there is no way that your apology can be accepted in this case. With all the sincerity with which you offered it, I reject your apology.
I know this rejection will leave you emotionally devastated.
But after all, you brought it upon yourself.
Next time, take a page out of Todd Akin's expert playbook and avoid making the mistake in the first place so you never have to do the right thing: apologize and step aside.
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Posted by: Westie at August 25, 2012 06:54 AM (3YBFV)
But I also have a criticism for this site. Where was your condemnation of Don Young (R-AL) for endorsing in an ad Democratic Rep. Mazie Hirono of Hawaii? How about Sen. Coburn donating $250 to Sen. Manchin of WV? Or condemning Sens. McCain, Graham, and Brown and Reps. Boehner, Cantor, McCartney, and Rogers for siding with the Muslim Brotherhood over Michele Bachmann? The Rep. Leadership was threatening to remove Bachmann from the intelligence committee unless she resigned.
Do not actions speak louder than words?
But as you stated, if Todd Akin is not listening to Mitt Romney, he sure as hell won't be listening to Ace-of-Spades. Your influence was readily apparent in the O'Donnell v. Castle primary. But it might be helpful if you held off from trashing him from now to the general. You all made your, mostly valid, points. I am still waiting for the condemnation of Don Young.
Read more here: http://www.adn.com/2012/07/25/2555408/opposites-attract-alaskas-young.html#storylink=cpy
Posted by: Scoob at August 25, 2012 07:35 AM (bCONy)
But I also have a criticism for this site. Where was your condemnation of Don Young (R-AL) for endorsing in an ad Democratic Rep. Mazie Hirono of Hawaii? How about Sen. Coburn donating $250 to Sen. Manchin of WV? Or condemning Sens. McCain, Graham, and Brown and Reps. Boehner, Cantor, McCartney, and Rogers for siding with the Muslim Brotherhood over Michele Bachmann? The Rep. Leadership was threatening to remove Bachmann from the intelligence committee unless she APOLOGIZED.
Do not actions speak louder than words?
But as you stated, if Todd Akin is not listening to Mitt Romney, he sure as hell won't be listening to Ace-of-Spades. Your influence was readily apparent in the O'Donnell v. Castle primary. But it might be helpful if you held off from trashing him from now to the general. You all made your, mostly valid, points. I am still waiting for the condemnation of Don Young.
Read more here: http://www.adn.com/2012/07/25/2555408/opposites-attract-alaskas-young.html#storylink=cpy
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Posted by: cynder ella at August 25, 2012 09:41 AM (oZfic)
intelligence committee unless she APOLOGIZED.
My bad on the first entry.
Posted by: Scoob at August 25, 2012 10:16 AM (bCONy)
Glad that you decided to show me just how smart you really are - well done!
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