July 24, 2012
— DrewM Another day, another bad poll for Team Obama. This time via Rasmussen.
The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Michigan Voters shows Obama with 48% support to RomneyÂ’s 42%. Five percent (5%) favor some other candidate in the race, and four percent (4%) are undecided.
Obama won Michigan by 17 points in 2008 and has bailed out the UAW, er, auto industry in the meantime. So, this shouldn't be that close.
Yesterday news was Minnesota and maybe even New Mexico.
I'm not a big believer in polls this early being able to prove much (remember Kerry's leads in 04 and McCain's in 0
but Team Obama has a terrible environment, has had the paid media field to itself for the most part and is almost out of time to get helpful economic facts (in reality things are getting worse).
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Posted by: Hydralisk at July 24, 2012 11:44 AM (fD1lX)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at July 24, 2012 11:45 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: AndrewsDad at July 24, 2012 11:46 AM (C2//T)
Posted by: David Asselrod at July 24, 2012 11:46 AM (DNTer)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at July 24, 2012 11:47 AM (8y9MW)
I'm thinking that in October.....Barky and his media fan club, will pull out the "Fear!" card.
They will start talking about how "Hope will be lost"....if he loses.
And how..."people with no Hope, will take to the streets".
In other words, they will try to scare people into voting for him.
Because...."without Hope, there will be riots".
Posted by: wheatie at July 24, 2012 11:47 AM (MbB0O)
Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at July 24, 2012 11:47 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: USS Diversity at July 24, 2012 11:48 AM (2d71t)
That's not actually helping out as much in MI as you'd think.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at July 24, 2012 11:48 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 24, 2012 11:49 AM (aaXd4)
I'm thinking that in October.....Barky and his media fan club, will pull out the "Fear!" card.
They will start talking about how "Hope will be lost"....if he loses.
And how..."people with no Hope, will take to the streets".
In other words, they will try to scare people into voting for him.
Because...."without Hope, there will be riots".
Posted by: wheatie at July 24, 2012 03:47 PM (MbB0O)
I thought this too. A couple of high-profile flash mobs and the meme might take hold: Bambi loses, white people die. Wouldn't put anything past the Chicago Thug Squad.
Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at July 24, 2012 11:49 AM (RD7QR)
Yerp!
Oblamo ran a 50 state campaign in 2008. Time to serve it back in their gobs.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 24, 2012 11:49 AM (mIoJ0)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 24, 2012 11:50 AM (da5Wo)
The JEF lead in most polls in July, McStain had some good polls after Palin and then it all came back to about where the JEF was in July.
This next month of polls will tell us what kind of election is coming. If Romney holds the lead, I say it means people have already settled on the idea of him as President and any closeness is hedging on account of the JEF being the incumbent.
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 24, 2012 11:50 AM (kSaUf)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 24, 2012 11:51 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 24, 2012 11:51 AM (Pixxe)
Posted by: Soona at July 24, 2012 11:51 AM (S27Cx)
Posted by: Vairish84 at July 24, 2012 11:52 AM (lG2dn)
Posted by: Washington state at July 24, 2012 11:53 AM (v1uZf)
Posted by: ParisParamus at July 24, 2012 11:53 AM (onOHN)
It's time to start asking questions about the mental health of the commander in chief.
Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at July 24, 2012 11:53 AM (SDkq3)
Posted by: mayor choomberg at July 24, 2012 11:53 AM (vDl/w)
Because...."without Hope, there will be riots".
Posted by: wheatie at July 24, 2012 03:47 PM (MbB0O)
I thought this too. A couple of high-profile flash mobs and the meme might take hold: Bambi loses, white people die. Wouldn't put anything past the Chicago Thug Squad.
Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at July 24, 2012 03:49 PM (RD7QR)
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They did this in 2008 to good effect. Wasn't it Jesse J. who threatened riots if the SCOAMT wasn't elected?
Posted by: Soona at July 24, 2012 11:54 AM (S27Cx)
They both like fish, you know.
Posted by: pep at July 24, 2012 11:54 AM (hPNaa)
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Posted by: Romney Bane Zombie II at July 24, 2012 11:55 AM (eavT+)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 24, 2012 11:55 AM (9TTOe)
Anyone see the season premier episode of "Warehouse 13" on SyFy last night?
It's interesting that theme of it was...."When people lose Hope, rioting breaks out".
There were riots breaking out, worldwide, because Warehouse 13 had gotten blown up...and Pandora's Box had been destroyed.
But they used the the phrase:
"When people lose Hope..." ....over and over.
The SyFy channel, is of course, a part of the GE/NBC/Universal group....which is very pro-Barky.
Posted by: wheatie at July 24, 2012 11:55 AM (MbB0O)
Well, the UAW did get its bailouts... and now is rewarding itself with bonuses courtesy of the public dime. I wonder, though, now that the BIG 3 have become the Big 2, when is FIat going to close chrysler's doors?
Posted by: john b at July 24, 2012 11:55 AM (4BJga)
Kerry led in July in most polls and that was his high water mark.
Point taken. But if you look at '010 instead of '08, things get a bit more clear as far as trends go. Don't forget that the midterm resulted in the largest move in Congress in some 60 years.
People are fed up with teh SCOAMF's bullshit. And IMHO, they're fucking with pollsters.
I sure would.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 24, 2012 11:56 AM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at July 24, 2012 11:58 AM (DGIjM)
Posted by: Vic at July 24, 2012 11:58 AM (YdQQY)
When you look at the polling models, they're pure liberal fantasies. Democrats with record breaking turnout and Republicans with 100 year low turnout. Yet the numbers are "tied".
President's get their approval rating on Election Day. Every single state Bush was under 50% in 2004, he lost. Right now, every single real swing state has Obama below 50%.
I think he's toast, but let's not get cocky.
Posted by: Killian at July 24, 2012 11:59 AM (XDRsa)
Anyone see the season premier episode of "Warehouse 13" on SyFy last night?
Yep, we did. They may not have jumped the shark with that episode, but the boat is ready. And for the record, Special Ed Shultz was, well, special, in his cameo.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 24, 2012 11:59 AM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at July 24, 2012 11:59 AM (azHfB)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 24, 2012 11:59 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: john b at July 24, 2012 03:55 PM (4BJga)
They won't. They'll try to sell it like Chrysler and Cerebus did.
Posted by: buzzion at July 24, 2012 12:00 PM (GULKT)
They more aware that Democrats, generally, are stuttering clusterf*cks of miserable tyrants. Despite the GM and Chrysler bailouts, the auto industry (which is much more defined by smaller shops in MI than the Big Three) is getting hammered by Democrat era taxes and regulations.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at July 24, 2012 12:01 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Vic at July 24, 2012 03:58 PM (YdQQY)
Not enough popcorn in the world.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 24, 2012 12:01 PM (UOM48)
They won't. They'll try to sell it like Chrysler and Cerebus did.
I see an opportunity.
Moron Motors.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 24, 2012 12:02 PM (d0Tfm)
Moron Motors.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 24, 2012 04:02 PM (d0Tfm)
A beer fridge in every car!
Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at July 24, 2012 12:02 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Vic at July 24, 2012 03:58 PM (YdQQY)
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Oh...I'll make you a believer, Vic. give me a call!!
Posted by: B. Frank at July 24, 2012 12:03 PM (eavT+)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 24, 2012 12:03 PM (9TTOe)
He's at 40%. . .exactly where he was six months ago, and actually down nearly four points in the last 2-3 weeks.
Posted by: Looking closely at July 24, 2012 12:03 PM (PwGfd)
I'm picturing Mooch breaking a butt-load of WH crockery.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 24, 2012 12:04 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: runningrn at July 24, 2012 12:04 PM (WGmy2)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at July 24, 2012 12:04 PM (3ZjAP)
Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at July 24, 2012 12:05 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at July 24, 2012 12:05 PM (azHfB)
I don't believe in polls this early either, but this is going to be a blowout.
Posted by: Vic at July 24, 2012 03:58 PM (YdQQY)
Yes baring something unforeseen I think so also
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 24, 2012 03:59 PM (05RcU)
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Yeah, but we all know that in the last three years dems have been cooking up an October surprise that darkly shadow all other past October surprises.
Or they could be shitting their pants. We'll see. Just sayin'. Be prepared.
Posted by: Soona at July 24, 2012 12:05 PM (S27Cx)
Posted by: soothsayer at July 24, 2012 12:05 PM (9Q7Nu)
A beer fridge in every car!
The local brewer for Shock Top has a Beetle with a keg and a tap in it that sticks out the side. I bet they're real popular at stop lights.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 24, 2012 12:06 PM (d0Tfm)
Gentlemen: let's not shuck each other's corn yet.
Posted by: Winston Wolf's Btter-Clinger/Rural Cousin at July 24, 2012 12:06 PM (IC6Er)
A new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll makes it clear: Voters give Mitt Romney an edge over President Barack Obama on ideas for lifting the struggling American economy.
But how important is that edge? If you look at economic conditions in
electoral battleground states, perhaps not as important as the national
picture would suggest.
Yet the fact that some of the swing states in the election are faring
better economically may blunt that edge. For example, the unemployment
rates in Iowa and New Hampshire are both 3 full points below the 8.2
percent national rate; Obama leads in both states by 1 and 5 percentage
points, respectively, according to an average of recent polls by
realclearpolitics.com.
The MFM keeps trying to spin some good news for its boyfriend
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 24, 2012 12:06 PM (1Jaio)
Posted by: runningrn at July 24, 2012 12:06 PM (WGmy2)
Posted by: soothsayer at July 24, 2012 12:06 PM (9Q7Nu)
49Moron Motors.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 24, 2012 04:02 PM (d0Tfm)
We would just build Monster Trucks and Muscle cars. Yeah, we would be rich.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 24, 2012 04:03 PM (9TTOe)
And if you keep it non-union....those would be both profitable and affordable for millions.
Posted by: wheatie at July 24, 2012 12:06 PM (MbB0O)
I'm thinking that in October.....Barky and his media fan club, will pull out the "Fear!" card.
I think they already have. Every fucking businessman in the country is afraid this asshole is going to get reelected.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at July 24, 2012 12:07 PM (3ZjAP)
I've had enough of Sci Fi shit channel cramming homo characters down my throat.
Posted by: soothsayer at July 24, 2012 04:06 PM (9Q7Nu) <<<<<<
My, that WAS unfortunate wording......
Posted by: maddogg at July 24, 2012 12:08 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 24, 2012 12:08 PM (I2LwF)
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Yeah, I'll tell you what. I don't turn into SyFy to see Special Ed Schultz pretending to be a journalist. If I wanted to see Special Ed pretending to be a journalist, I'd watch MSKGB.
I mean. something I can willingly suspend disbelief about. You know, ghosts, curses, magic, high tech hoodads. And some things I can't willingly suspend disbelief about, like Special Ed being a real newsman.
Posted by: WalrusRex at July 24, 2012 12:08 PM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: soothsayer at July 24, 2012 12:08 PM (9Q7Nu)
Posted by: the Union Label ( look for us ) at July 24, 2012 12:08 PM (Dll6b)
ParisParamus...
as of july 18,Qunnipian (I know) had fuck-face up 11points with 8% undecided
Warning politico link...
Well within MOE, but ya never know...
Posted by: dananjcon at July 24, 2012 12:09 PM (eavT+)
The president's campaign is specifically targeting the piscatorial vote in that state. The number of votes that water-bound constituents can bring are the reason why I think Michigan is going to stay in Obama's camp.
Posted by: Mr_Write at July 24, 2012 12:09 PM (VJUQK)
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I stopped watching Warehouse 13, which was crappy anyway, as soon as the new guy said "I'm homo."
They killed him off.
But yeah.....it's only because of the general suckage of most of what is on TV, that I stoop to watching that show.
Posted by: wheatie at July 24, 2012 12:09 PM (MbB0O)
Posted by: the new Doctor Screw at July 24, 2012 12:09 PM (vDl/w)
then they had to spoil Warehouse 13, too
Fuck them. And fuck Doctor Who, too.
Posted by: soothsayer at July 24, 2012 04:08 PM (9Q7Nu)
Hello, sailor !!!
Posted by: almost every Brit TV programme these days at July 24, 2012 12:09 PM (Dll6b)
Posted by: soothsayer at July 24, 2012 12:10 PM (9Q7Nu)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 24, 2012 12:10 PM (I2LwF)
I've had enough of Sci Fi shit channel cramming homo characters down my throat.
Posted by: soothsayer at July 24, 2012 04:06 PM (9Q7Nu)
ISWYDT.
Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at July 24, 2012 12:10 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 24, 2012 12:11 PM (HethX)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 24, 2012 12:11 PM (9TTOe)
Posted by: soothsayer at July 24, 2012 12:11 PM (9Q7Nu)
Posted by: reason at July 24, 2012 12:12 PM (W2YA6)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 24, 2012 12:12 PM (jucos)
Posted by: CAC at July 24, 2012 12:12 PM (tlUyE)
Posted by: runningrn at July 24, 2012 04:06 PM (WGmy2)
Less than he would with another 4 years to slow play his hand.
Posted by: buzzion at July 24, 2012 12:12 PM (GULKT)
seek another opening for The Cramming
Posted by: Chauncey in Chancellorsville at July 24, 2012 12:12 PM (Dll6b)
68....I mean. something I can willingly suspend disbelief about. You know, ghosts, curses, magic, high tech hoodads. And some things I can't willingly suspend disbelief about, like Special Ed being a real newsman.
Posted by: WalrusRex at July 24, 2012 04:08 PM (Hx5uv)
That was particularly pukeworthy, wasn't it?
So you saw that shit too, huh?
Posted by: wheatie at July 24, 2012 12:13 PM (MbB0O)
Posted by: WalrusRex at July 24, 2012 12:13 PM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: MCPO Airdale at July 24, 2012 12:13 PM (tYaDf)
People outside of Michigan donÂ’t really understand what happened in the auto bailout.
Obama bailed the UAW out. There are far less assembly plants in Michigan than there used to be, and thatÂ’s where the UAW is. Ford, and especially Delphi, which was the spinoff of GMÂ’s component manufacturing, got screwed. All the salary and non-UAW hourly that work for GM and Chrysler got screwed. So, itÂ’s not like everyone is happy here.
After Obama’s bailout, the UAW hand picked their candidate for Governor, an Obama-loving socialist who was mayor of Lansing. He wrapped himself around Obama, his policies and the auto bailout in an election against someone who never ran for office before and promoted himself as “One Tough Nerd”.
Our guy won by 19 points - and this was when the bailout was fresh news.
Michigan is going red this election.
Posted by: jwest at July 24, 2012 12:14 PM (ZDsRL)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 24, 2012 12:14 PM (9TTOe)
Posted by: soothsayer at July 24, 2012 12:14 PM (9Q7Nu)
So you saw that shit too, huh?
Posted by: wheatie at July 24, 2012 04:13 PM (MbB0O)
To be fair, i watch SyFy to be shocked by differing versions of reality and I definitely was shocked by that different view of reality.
Posted by: WalrusRex at July 24, 2012 12:14 PM (Hx5uv)
You can get the Android version here. Kindle Fire, iPhone and iPad versions are coming soon.<<<
No Windows Phone version?
Fuckin' PASS.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 24, 2012 12:15 PM (EQpRL)
Me, too. I will never buy a GM or Chrysler vehicle again. I wonder how many of us are out there.
Posted by: Mr_Write at July 24, 2012 12:15 PM (VJUQK)
I don't expect Intrade to truly reflect the ultimate outcome this early in the game, but it "should" reflect a sort of current best consensus evaluation of all available data.
The fact that Romney is at 40% means either that he's still a significant underdog, or that the Intrade POTUS market is significantly distorted.
I don't know which it is, but I don't like either option very much.
Posted by: Looking closely at July 24, 2012 12:15 PM (PwGfd)
Posted by: WalrusRex at July 24, 2012 04:13 PM (Hx5uv)
**
Leave it to Beaver would be Leave the Beaver.
Posted by: dananjcon at July 24, 2012 12:16 PM (eavT+)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 24, 2012 12:16 PM (jucos)
A lot. Ford (for trucks), Toyota, and Nissan for this Moron's family.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at July 24, 2012 12:16 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 24, 2012 12:16 PM (9TTOe)
Posted by: CAC at July 24, 2012 12:16 PM (tlUyE)
Posted by: USA at July 24, 2012 12:17 PM (6Cjut)
It is awful to contemplate what the Dems may try to pull off when they really, finally, fully, confront the nasty reality that their History-making Hero will not be getting re-elected. And then if you really want to scare yourself, there is the matter of their potential for damage during the lame-duckitude of both him and the Senate leadership.
Then again, you know, the Dems could really put themselves out of business for a while if they act out true to form.
Posted by: sherlock at July 24, 2012 12:17 PM (81ia8)
Posted by: Linus in Linustown at July 24, 2012 12:17 PM (Dll6b)
Chevy Camaro is built in Canada... /doh...
GM is building an engineering and research unit in... China...
Lots of factories in ... Mexico....
Just point out the GM outsourcing, then point out the GM CEO was hand picked by the administration.... and this State is in play.
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 24, 2012 12:17 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Mr_Write at July 24, 2012 04:15 PM (VJUQK) <<<<<
I'm there. Chevys and jeeps for 40 years, never again.
Posted by: maddogg at July 24, 2012 12:18 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 24, 2012 12:19 PM (9TTOe)
I'd rather be delusional than support a completely stumbling, bumbling fool of a tyrant and idiot, for no other reason than he promised "Hope and Change"
Posted by: Mr_Write at July 24, 2012 12:19 PM (VJUQK)
http://tinyurl.com/d5f95hy
heh
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 24, 2012 12:19 PM (UOM48)
"won't make up their mind until after Halloween, and then will base their on which one reminds them more of puppies. "
I'm mulling a Third-Party bid...
Posted by: David "Pants Puppies" Hasselhoff at July 24, 2012 12:20 PM (W2YA6)
That is what being under 50% in these super blue states means.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at July 24, 2012 12:20 PM (hlUJY)
Massaged however the pollster wants them.
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 24, 2012 04:10 PM (I2LwF)
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Fodder for the news media. Gotta keep the hype going.
Posted by: Soona at July 24, 2012 12:20 PM (S27Cx)
A man named Mitt Romney has just arrested for pedophilia.
Current residence unknown. You know George, that is just the sort of modus operendi that one could expect from the Tea Party.
Posted by: Brian Ross and ABC News at July 24, 2012 12:21 PM (wUFaM)
Posted by: Free Bates! at July 24, 2012 12:21 PM (vDl/w)
Posted by: USA at July 24, 2012 12:22 PM (6Cjut)
That is what being under 50% in these super blue states means"
What I am wondering is how many people claim to be supporters of Teh One for fear of appearing racist but plan on voting for Mitt.
Posted by: Mr_Write at July 24, 2012 12:22 PM (VJUQK)
Posted by: Dave S. at July 24, 2012 12:23 PM (qBtUE)
Posted by: maddogg at July 24, 2012 12:24 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 24, 2012 12:24 PM (TOSyM)
It's becoming more and more like "Massaged however the PRESIDENT wants them"
Posted by: Mr_Write at July 24, 2012 12:25 PM (VJUQK)
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 24, 2012 12:25 PM (HethX)
Me, too. I will never buy a GM or Chrysler vehicle again. I wonder how many of us are out there.
Here's another one. Been a Chevy guy all my life, but no more.
Although I still lust heartily after a Corvette. Today, I'll also look at a Shelby Mustang. I'm only six lottery numbers away...
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 24, 2012 12:26 PM (d0Tfm)
Where are the good battleground state polls for Romney? You guys are delusional. You know a candidate is a total loser when polls showing him down by 6 are highlighted!
Posted by: dragonfly at July 24, 2012 04:14 PM
How come greg never links to anything citing his polls?
Could it be he thinks we might notice the dates on them? Or is it that he can't pull a link out of his ass like he does with his poll numbers on his daily drive-by
Posted by: kbdabear at July 24, 2012 12:26 PM (Y7XKa)
Jeebus.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 24, 2012 12:26 PM (UOM48)
@112
What? ....Moochelle is pregnant?
Who's the baby daddy?
Posted by: wheatie at July 24, 2012 04:24 PM (MbB0O)
Yo!
Posted by: Ms. Jarrett. Val if you're nasty. at July 24, 2012 12:27 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 24, 2012 12:27 PM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 24, 2012 04:19 PM (9TTOe)
They can KEEP that piece of shit. GM ruined it, so let China suffer.
Posted by: © Sponge at July 24, 2012 12:27 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Mr_Write at July 24, 2012 12:27 PM (VJUQK)
123 SyFy has been crap since before they changed the spelling.
Yep.
It's totally changed from the channel that gave us Stargate SG-1.
Posted by: wheatie at July 24, 2012 12:28 PM (MbB0O)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 24, 2012 12:28 PM (9TTOe)
The missus wanted a Suburban, but we bought a used one. I don't think GM gets profits from the used-car sale, that all goes to the dealership.
So far, the only parts its needed are brake pads and a battery.
Posted by: reason at July 24, 2012 12:28 PM (W2YA6)
Although I still lust heartily after a Corvette. Today, I'll also look at a Shelby Mustang. I'm only six lottery numbers away... Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 24, 2012 04:26 PM
There's always the used car market. You're buying a Vette that some guy with mid life crisis couldn't afford, and you're not putting money in the pockets of the UAW and the SCOAMF
Posted by: kbdabear at July 24, 2012 12:28 PM (Y7XKa)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 24, 2012 12:28 PM (d0Tfm)
Gag.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 24, 2012 12:28 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: runningrn at July 24, 2012 04:06 PM (WGmy2)
Let him be a raging lame duck then have 4 years of more "flexibility"
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 24, 2012 12:29 PM (1Jaio)
Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at July 24, 2012 12:29 PM (RD7QR)
SyFy channel, is of course, a part of the GE/NBC/Universal group....which is very pro-Barky.
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Yeah, I'll tell you what. I don't turn into SyFy to see Special Ed Schultz pretending to be a journalist. If I wanted to see Special Ed pretending to be a journalist, I'd watch MSKGB.
I have to smile when I see that it's now just nbcnews.com.
Bye bye, pretense of objective journalism for NBC.
Posted by: imp at July 24, 2012 12:29 PM (UaxA0)
Posted by: Anachronda at July 24, 2012 12:29 PM (IrbU4)
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Not that it means anything, every election is generally in and of itself, but where was Bush's approval in July/August? And did it improve in any from then to the election?
Right now, all the polls will show are broad trends. It's possible that the broad trends from 2004 may have some insight.
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 24, 2012 12:30 PM (kSaUf)
Gag.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 24, 2012 04:28 PM (UOM4
<<<<<
You don't think they will insist on late abortion to show support for the cause?
Posted by: maddogg at July 24, 2012 12:30 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: The L.A. Times Editorial Staff at July 24, 2012 12:30 PM (+XVQe)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 24, 2012 12:31 PM (1Jaio)
Eco-fascists's brains (well, what passes for them) will seize up trying to process "baby SCOAMF" and "babies are destroying the planet." Then again, AlGore had known legitimate children at 250% replacement rate....
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at July 24, 2012 12:32 PM (ZKzrr)
Some dude who lives close by has a Shelby 500 Cobra. I see him in it at the grocery store a lot. It's got the classic white with baby blue racing stripes and a big ol' scoop on the hood. Heard him put his foot in it one day. It made the very gods themselves envious.
*Sigh* Yeah, my knees are getting weak too.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 24, 2012 12:32 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 24, 2012 04:24 PM (TOSyM)
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When they were the "Sci Fi" channel, it used to be fun watching it, especially on Saturdays. They show 50's sci fi and horror flicks including a number of '70's Italian vampire movies. I really thought they had something really good going. Then, I guess some douche got the idea that they could make their own movies using cheap, stupid CGI.
Posted by: Soona at July 24, 2012 12:32 PM (S27Cx)
Posted by: dragonflay at July 24, 2012 12:33 PM (+nx7V)
Posted by: Mr_Write at July 24, 2012 12:33 PM (VJUQK)
It'll be a fundraising/GOTV ploy. "If my husband loses his job, I'll have to have an abortion because we can't afford three private-school tuitions..."
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at July 24, 2012 12:33 PM (ZKzrr)
"Someone is suing the theater because his friend was killed and he's suffering from ptsd."
They advertised themselves as a Gun Free Zone!
Posted by: reason at July 24, 2012 12:34 PM (W2YA6)
Jeebus.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 24, 2012 04:26 PM (UOM4
I suspect that every ambulance chaser in CO hit the pavement within minutes of the news of the CO shootings.
I blame stupid layer/legislators who pass joint and several liability laws and I blame stupid jurors who serve them.
Posted by: Vic at July 24, 2012 12:34 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 24, 2012 12:35 PM (9TTOe)
I wouldn't put it past them to fake a Moochelle pregnancy (and then she will tragically lose the baby right before the election so Barry gets the sympathy vote).
I can also see the next crop of ads the Dems will run.
Cue Sasha and Malia in tattered clothing and bare foot with dirty faces.
"Mitt Romney, the Evil White Man is trying to evict our daddy from the White House by running a smear campaign that is racist and beneath all of us as Americans. If Mitt Romney wins, we will be out on the streets with nowhere to go and forced to work in the fields. Please do not let that happen to us, we are innocent children who should not have to suffer because Mr. Romney plays dirty. Re-elect our father. Because it's for the children and Mitt LeGree is a racist Mormon bigot who will end a woman's right to choose and force us back on the plantation."
Posted by: runningrn at July 24, 2012 12:35 PM (WGmy2)
Posted by: Wolf Blitzer at July 24, 2012 12:35 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 24, 2012 12:36 PM (UOM48)
This year, when Romney wins, he will win a number of unexpected states beyond the traditional battleground states.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 24, 2012 12:36 PM (JxIkO)
Let him be a raging lame duck then have 4 years of more "flexibility
Oh, I agree, but I also think we will see a shitstorm of invective crap come from this WH. He is just that petulant and narcissistic.
Posted by: runningrn at July 24, 2012 12:37 PM (WGmy2)
Posted by: California at July 24, 2012 12:38 PM (GkwjL)
runningrn, don't write their ads for them!
Oh, and I forgot that they would be holding wire coat hangers in their hands...
Posted by: runningrn at July 24, 2012 12:38 PM (WGmy2)
Well convicted felon Martha, unlike you I can legally own one.
Posted by: Courtesy Flush at July 24, 2012 12:38 PM (sw9Gv)
"139Maybe Barky's October Surprise will be a pregnant Mooch. Libs across America will forget their suffering and swoon in unison. "
They'll lose the GBLT voter block. Icky breeders...
Posted by: reason at July 24, 2012 12:38 PM (W2YA6)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 24, 2012 12:38 PM (UOM48)
Romney should emulate this ad nauseum...
http://tinyurl.com/coe7nsl
Posted by: Exile at July 24, 2012 12:38 PM (pmzmP)
The "you really gonna kick the black guy out of the House?!" will be a BIG point around mid-October, I'm sure.
The guilt card will be all 52 cards in the deck.
Posted by: some guy at July 24, 2012 12:38 PM (v1uZf)
I'm a MG man myself although an Austin Healey can get a rise out of me as well.
Posted by: T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII at July 24, 2012 12:39 PM (eavT+)
So Martha Stewart has opened her yap concerning gun control
Something tells me that Martha Stewart may have employed armed body guards at one point in her career. She's just a little paranoid, and self important. Since she has done time in the pokey, her star has lost some of it's luster, though, and I think her empire has shrunk a bit.
Posted by: runningrn at July 24, 2012 12:39 PM (WGmy2)
Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 24, 2012 12:40 PM (GkwjL)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 24, 2012 12:40 PM (9TTOe)
Yeah, I'm sure, like Rosie O'Donnell, she never leaves the house without an armed body guard.
Hypocrisy, thy name is libtard.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 24, 2012 12:40 PM (UOM48)
Obama will be using 57 cards this time around.
Posted by: Mr_Write at July 24, 2012 12:41 PM (VJUQK)
The "you really gonna kick the black guy out of the House?!" will be a BIG point around mid-October, I'm sure.
I look forward to the day when we can kick America's first Black President out of the White House. I denounce myself!
Posted by: runningrn at July 24, 2012 12:41 PM (WGmy2)
Posted by: Greg, aka CAC's bitch at July 24, 2012 12:41 PM (/5cf7)
Posted by: CAC at July 24, 2012 12:42 PM (tlUyE)
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 24, 2012 12:42 PM (HethX)
Pregnancy might be a risky re-election move.
A reminder that he's still attracted to, or at least submissive towards, M'Cel will unsettle many stomachs.
Posted by: reason at July 24, 2012 12:42 PM (W2YA6)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 24, 2012 12:42 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: CAC at July 24, 2012 12:43 PM (tlUyE)
Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 24, 2012 12:43 PM (GkwjL)
Posted by: weew at July 24, 2012 12:43 PM (ZBjRZ)
Tell ya what, Mr. T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII, I'll race my Shelby against your MG anytime, anywhere...
...and it won't matter who wins, `cause we'll both have sweet rides!
Posted by: Mr_Write at July 24, 2012 12:44 PM (VJUQK)
Mitt let's him go on a while in that vein, and then says, "you do know that both GM and Chrysler filed for bankruptcy on your watch, don't you?"
To which Barky replies, shaking his head in sad, tired exasperation: "There you go again. Both GM and Chrysler avoided bankruptcy because of my gutsy calls....but if we had listened to you..."
Immediately after, George Stephanopoulus remarked in the after reporting that
" 'bankruptcy' is a word that is open to many interpretations...as is the word 'avoided' . " Axelrod is hospitalized the next afternoon for "exhaustion" and the day after that Hillary calls on Obama "to step aside for the good of our party"....Michelle immediately issues a statement rejecting Hillary's call saying, 'y'all tell that Arkansas cracker be-yotch come down here and I'll step her fat wrinkly white ass aside with a size thirteen upside 'it..."
Nice dream, that was.
Posted by: Davy at July 24, 2012 12:44 PM (Xv7f/)
Posted by: soothsayer at July 24, 2012 12:45 PM (9Q7Nu)
@154, Re: the coming lawsuits over the Theater Massacre
Warner Bros has apparently already donated $1 million to the 'Victims Fund'....to help pay for the medical expenses.
While this is a nice thing to do.....won't this get used against them, as 'an admission of responsibility', or something?
Posted by: wheatie at July 24, 2012 12:45 PM (MbB0O)
Posted by: Moch-elle Dangerfield at July 24, 2012 12:45 PM (GkwjL)
Posted by: soothsayer at July 24, 2012 12:45 PM (9Q7Nu)
Posted by: CAC at July 24, 2012 12:45 PM (tlUyE)
Lucas electrics rock or it was that I wanted to beat them with a rock when they consistently didn't work.
Owned an MG and A Triumph
Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 24, 2012 12:46 PM (tf9Ne)
For a state that was no way in play for Republicans in over 20 years? That's right keep believing. Keep thinking if you can be ahead deficit spending like mad months before the conventions, that you are on the road for a sure WIN!
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at July 24, 2012 12:46 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 24, 2012 04:40 PM (9TTOe)
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Oh ,thats the stuff of legend and folklore, nothing tops the finely honed engineering of British steele.
Posted by: T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII at July 24, 2012 12:46 PM (eavT+)
Arachnoquake vs Sharktopus ...can you say Sweeps?? Oh yes.
Won't have no legs when I'm done with it.
Posted by: Sharktopus at July 24, 2012 12:46 PM (v1uZf)
There's a new virus in the Iranian nuclear facilities, per a Finnish digital security firm which claims to have been contacted by an Iranian scientist.
It apparently turns on the computers late at night and blasts "Thunderstruck" by AC/DC.
I hope that it starts playing "Ride Of The Valkyries during the Israeli raid.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at July 24, 2012 12:47 PM (e0xKF)
"Since she has done time in the pokey, her star has lost some of it's luster, though, and I think her empire has shrunk a bit. "
She now has a product-line that is appropriate for PETsMART.
I'm not sure what she sells there. But I noticed it last time I was there.
So yeah, I'd say she's been hit a little hard by the felony. And the fact that, when you're scrounging to make ends meet, pay the mortgage, and keep a gallon of milk in the fridge, the disposable income blown on $15 scrapbooking stickers has dwindled.
Unless she's gonna teach a class on knitting adorable yarn pistol-cozies, she won't be getting Mrs. Reason's attention any time soon...
Posted by: reason at July 24, 2012 12:47 PM (W2YA6)
You guys are nuts. I'll bet you 10 zillion dollars that Obama not only takes PA, WI, OH, Va, NC, FL, NV, and MI, he'll have such momentum that he'll flip TX, OK, and WY. You guys predicting blowouts, be careful what you ask for!
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This is because Obama is so likeable, even when he's condescending and lying so blatantly that the MSM can't even help him, and Mitt is a scared robot, he's not making any good attack ads. And he's Mormon. MORMON!!!
Come on! I accurate predicted the Democrat blowout victory of 2010, as well as the successful recall of Scott Walker. I know what I'm talking about, wingnuts!
Posted by: Gerg the Dragon Concubine at July 24, 2012 12:47 PM (YmPwQ)
The last four years have been an underwhelming disastrous economic suckfest lead by amateurs and some guy who sounds more like he thinks he is king than president.
He has done nothing but destroy the American Dream and criticize the work ethic which made us a great nation.
Maybe he can go to Russia and continue to work on a restart after we kick his inept, destructive, name-calling, clown-ass out of the White House.
Posted by: Exile at July 24, 2012 12:47 PM (pmzmP)
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I think it was Showtime who originally produced and aired Stargate SG-1.
Then it moved to SciFi.
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Yup.
The first episodes on Showtime had nakedness and cusswords.
Then they cancelled it....before it really even took off.
Which was stupid.
SciFi bought the rights and ran with it.
Posted by: wheatie at July 24, 2012 12:48 PM (MbB0O)
Posted by: reason at July 24, 2012 12:48 PM (W2YA6)
Posted by: soothsayer at July 24, 2012 04:47 PM (9Q7Nu)
We used to watch Son of Svengoolie on WFLD in Chicago when I was a kid. He always ran cheesy horror flicks and did little bits and such between commercial interruptions.
Posted by: © Sponge at July 24, 2012 12:48 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: t-bird at July 24, 2012 12:49 PM (FcR7P)
Apple disappointed?
Posted by: soothsayer at July 24, 2012 04:41 PM (9Q7Nu)
So far, panera is the only stock on my radar that hasn't missed.
Posted by: town cryer at July 24, 2012 12:49 PM (hN7+2)
Posted by: CAC at July 24, 2012 12:49 PM (tlUyE)
Posted by: EC at July 24, 2012 12:50 PM (R15UB)
Posted by: Election day at July 24, 2012 12:51 PM (v1uZf)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 24, 2012 12:52 PM (UOM48)
Oh where o' where could they be?
Dragonfly, you know, that prior to '08 election, we had 4 trolls permanently camped in every thread, right? Look around, you're the only one here. That alone tells me how little support and enthusiasm your side has. Well what can I expect, who wants to proclaim support for one of the most, if not the most, incompetent President of The United States?
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at July 24, 2012 12:53 PM (0q2P7)
Fucking Gary Johnson is on Cavuto right now....saying that he is doing a 3rd Party Libertarian run in this election now.
Just what we need.
Posted by: wheatie at July 24, 2012 12:53 PM (MbB0O)
What we need is a bacon recipe thread!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 24, 2012 04:46 PM (UOM4
I guess a gun thread would be sort of inappropriate. Darn.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at July 24, 2012 12:53 PM (3ZjAP)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at July 24, 2012 04:53 PM (3ZjAP
That was pretty well-covered a couple of threads down. Smart Military Blog™ and all that.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 24, 2012 12:55 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: © Sponge at July 24, 2012 04:48 PM (UK9cE)
He's still on TV.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 24, 2012 12:55 PM (1Jaio)
Bacon Benedict:
3 Eggs
8 pounds of fried Bacon
1 cup of Milk
Put eggs back in refrigerator. Use milk to wash down bacon.
Posted by: Mr_Write at July 24, 2012 12:56 PM (VJUQK)
Gary Johnson dropped out of the R Primary specifically to run Libertarian. That's old news.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at July 24, 2012 12:56 PM (8y9MW)
I don't really care about his beliefs, he ran in the GOP primaries, lost and then turns around and runs for the libertarians. Sorry, Gary, sore loser looks good on nobody.
Also, I saw him on RedEye where he advocated laws that force calorie counts in menus. Some libertarian.
Posted by: AmishDude at July 24, 2012 12:57 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: soothsayer at July 24, 2012 12:57 PM (9Q7Nu)
Thanks to everyone who played "Guess Where EC Was Born?"
Shazbot, I missed that. Who won and with what answer?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 24, 2012 12:58 PM (d0Tfm)
That guy built it himself.
Posted by: AmishDude at July 24, 2012 12:58 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: soothsayer at July 24, 2012 12:59 PM (9Q7Nu)
Brush thick-cut bacon with maple syrup, sprinkle with brown sugar, and bake at 375 degrees until crispy.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 24, 2012 12:59 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at July 24, 2012 12:59 PM (8y9MW)
OK, Wyoming, Colorado, Montana, Idaho, Arizona,Texas, Oklahoma, Utah, et al. need to send him a written letter, stating that following the collapse should Obama win, where the US is split in two, he gets exiled to the USSA he doesn't get to stay with us. *
*(Wyoming please let me in even though I'm from California. I cool I promise)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at July 24, 2012 12:59 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 24, 2012 04:55 PM (1Jaio)
Holy CRAP!!! Really?!?! Doing what?
Posted by: © Sponge at July 24, 2012 01:00 PM (UK9cE)
222saying that he is doing a 3rd Party Libertarian run in this election now.
Gary Johnson dropped out of the R Primary specifically to run Libertarian. That's old news.
He's now demanding to be included in the upcomming Debates.
The Dems would probably love that.
Posted by: wheatie at July 24, 2012 01:00 PM (MbB0O)
He didn't "lose." IIRC, he dropped out shortly after TPaw did, which means he never actually ran in a primary.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at July 24, 2012 01:00 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at July 24, 2012 01:01 PM (9Q7Nu)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 24, 2012 01:02 PM (HOI3B)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 24, 2012 01:02 PM (UOM48)
Looks like the same kinda show you mentioned.
http://svengoolie.com/
Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 24, 2012 01:02 PM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 24, 2012 01:03 PM (HOI3B)
Scratch a garden variety "Libertarian" find an ardent socialist that thinks government should pay for weed. Few are actually ready to live free.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at July 24, 2012 01:04 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: © Sponge at July 24, 2012 05:00 PM (UK9cE)
The same routine the same Berwyn jokes. His show is on Saturdays and Rich Koz does a 3 Stooges show on Saturday nights as well.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 24, 2012 01:05 PM (1Jaio)
Damn. I wish I could get a troll over at my place.
Just once. That'd be all I'd need, well, that and this ashtray...
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 24, 2012 01:06 PM (d0Tfm)
I can almost bear to watch the five, but beckel is such a dem caricature that i generally mute the sound and look at the legs!
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 24, 2012 01:06 PM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: CAC at July 24, 2012 04:49 PM (tlUyE)
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I liked NightFlight. What was the name of their regularly featured band? Ah, yes. "The Angry Samoans". They were usually too drunk to play anything.
Posted by: Soona at July 24, 2012 01:07 PM (S27Cx)
The internal polls (2.6 million worth) must be this bad or worse. The stuff out of the reelection campaign is increasingly delusional. "Better off than four years ago", "Stimulus worked", "Romney doesn't understand the economy", and now questions about the legitimacy of Romney's candidacy.
It's time to start asking questions about the mental health of the commander in chief.
Hey! I started that!
Posted by: Joseph Goebbels at July 24, 2012 01:11 PM (Oznng)
Posted by: Chilling themost at July 24, 2012 01:12 PM (6IV8T)
Posted by: EC at July 24, 2012 01:25 PM (R15UB)
The wheels on Obama's campaign cart are already in a low speed wobble and, as election day nears, that low speed wobble turns to a high speed fishtail.
Slurpee simply can't handle the pressure.
Posted by: 13times at July 24, 2012 01:39 PM (h6XiD)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at July 24, 2012 02:11 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at July 24, 2012 02:22 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: dragonfly at July 24, 2012 03:14 PM (t8tck)
Posted by: Cornfed at July 24, 2012 03:20 PM (HpTyI)
New economy, new rules. Anything is possible now.
Posted by: @PurpAv at July 24, 2012 03:43 PM (BA3br)
I predict that OH and FL are going for Romney too; but there's always a chance he could screw up, so I'm not calling those states yet.
VA is doomed to become a Blue State, as DC grows in power. This may or may not be the year that happens, but it is certainly a Purple State - which NC is not.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 24, 2012 04:09 PM (QTHTd)
For a bit of shaudenfraud just copy/paste
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=131075640
or just click my name.
Posted by: political correctness czar at July 24, 2012 04:20 PM (Q2Ne0)
Posted by: steevy at July 24, 2012 04:22 PM (6o4Fb)
"Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure."
If only there was a T shirt with a good design....
Posted by: political correctness czar at July 24, 2012 05:48 PM (Q2Ne0)
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