March 12, 2012
— rdbrewer He's going after Sarah Palin again. He's been doing this for years. Maybe there is something I don't understand about politics, but shouldn't you be at least a bit, um, political if you're going to get into that game? He's a campaign manager, for goodness sakes.
“For me and the experience I had on this campaign is that there are worse things than losing,” Schmidt said. When he was asked to spell that out, he said, “When a result happens that puts someone who’s not prepared to be president on the ticket, that’s a bad result. I think the notion of Sarah Palin being president of the United States is something that frightens me, frankly. And I played a part in that. And I played a part in that because we were fueled by ambition to win.
Could he possibly be more un-political?
Who would ever hire this guy again, knowing that if he gets cranky and doesn't get his woobie he's going to start backstabbing? Even if you had legitimate reasons for feeling negatively toward your candidate, you wouldn't go around trashing them afterwards like this. Right? What am I missing here?
Thanks to commenter "kbdabear."
Added: Commenter "Jeff B." has a theory:
His career was already over. He's been toxic for quite awhile now. The simple fact is that any GOP candidate who hired him would immediately get swamped by a wave of negative publicity from the conservative grassroots -- and this was the case long before the movie ever came out.Schmidt knows this. He knows he has nothing to lose. He's positioning himself for a punditry gig at this point, and building his "bipartisan" credentials with an eye towards that.
Posted by: rdbrewer at
12:21 PM
| Comments (503)
Post contains 304 words, total size 2 kb.
Posted by: real joe at March 12, 2012 12:22 PM (9Wp9D)
Steve Schmidt ... Arlen Specter ...
I'll take traitorous weasels for $200, Alex.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at March 12, 2012 12:23 PM (bjRNS)
Methinks Mr. Schmidt's Mantyhose is a little tight and he having a Palin hissy fit. It's a bitch when you have to admit Palin is smarter than you Steve.
Posted by: mpfs at March 12, 2012 12:25 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: maddogg at March 12, 2012 12:25 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: willow at March 12, 2012 12:25 PM (TomZ9)
Posted by: the hobbit fomerly known as Donna at March 12, 2012 12:25 PM (ZHge+)
Which will occur first?
a. Ace will make an appearance.
b. AoS traffic counter will hit 150 million.
Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2012 12:26 PM (G/zuv)
Anybody notice any "ambition to win" on the McCain team? Anybody?
Posted by: Heorot at March 12, 2012 12:26 PM (Nq/UF)
Posted by: willow at March 12, 2012 12:27 PM (TomZ9)
Posted by: mugiwara at March 12, 2012 12:27 PM (W7ffl)
You know what else is frightening, Steve Shit?
Turning Indiana from Red to Blue.
Turning Virginia blue.
Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2012 12:27 PM (G/zuv)
Posted by: rdbrewer at March 12, 2012 12:27 PM (Iyg03)
I would hope they never get hired again.
failure...
Posted by: willow at March 12, 2012 12:27 PM (TomZ9)
Posted by: toby928© at March 12, 2012 12:27 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: K at March 12, 2012 12:28 PM (hBe33)
Meh.
Makes political sense:
1. He is an Establishment operative who lost a big election.
2. He has to blame someone else.
3. He blames a person the Establishment doesn't like.
4. $$$$
Politics 101
Posted by: CJ at March 12, 2012 12:28 PM (9KqcB)
He's one of those dim bulb lesbian/femynyst womyn who think _A Handmaid's Tale_ is a work of non-fiction.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 12, 2012 12:28 PM (ZKzrr)
The best plot in the cemetery? What an assbag. He just can't let Palin go. She must have really gotten under his skin.
Posted by: mpfs at March 12, 2012 12:28 PM (iYbLN)
What a tool.
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 12, 2012 12:29 PM (Sh42X)
I strongly suspect this clown knows he'll never get a job again in his lifetime..........so what does he have to lose?
Posted by: alwyr at March 12, 2012 12:29 PM (j+vBZ)
with those kinds of Campaign staff who needs enemies.
Posted by: willow at March 12, 2012 12:29 PM (TomZ9)
Steve Schmidt, You Are A Big Fucking Loser.
You didn't just lose the 2008 election.
You lost to Barack Hussein Obama, an anti-American college lecturer with a paper-thin resume and direct ties to domestic terrorists.
Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2012 12:30 PM (G/zuv)
"Who would ever hire this guy again, knowing that if he gets cranky and doesn't get his woobie he's going to start backstabbing?"
Steve, call me. It's not to early to do some preliminary gaming for my 2016 Senate run. Later, buddy.
Posted by: John McCain at March 12, 2012 12:30 PM (w41GQ)
I only watched it once. .....But there was one part that keeps replaying in my head.....
It was Schmidt and company were at a bar, talking about 'what went wrong'. ....One of the other guys said ...."It takes a Star to win the presidency now" ...and "Obama and Palin are stars".
They went on to say that "but at least Obama can name a Supreme Court case". .....So they [HBO] furthered their narrative that Palin was picked only because of her 'star power' but because she was 'dumb', they lost.
But I think that they inadvertently betrayed their motives, with that line about "Obama and Palin are stars". ......Palin's star power is the whole reason that they made this turd of a movie. They did it to try to bury her.
Posted by: wheatie at March 12, 2012 12:31 PM (aykLa)
Posted by: The Jackhole at March 12, 2012 12:31 PM (nTgAI)
Posted by: ontherocks at March 12, 2012 12:32 PM (ZJCDy)
Schmidt will be running campaigns and probably end up as the head of the RNC, considering the dickless, sniveling pussies we have in the republican party.
Why not make him the fucking president? He has all the low-life, backstabing, don't-leave-me-out-of-a-Georgetown-cocktail-party attitude that seems to be essential for the GOP establishment today.
Hey, don't get mad at him. He only made fun of Sarah Palin. It's not like he turned on anyone important.
Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2012 12:32 PM (FdndL)
Posted by: John McCain at March 12, 2012 12:32 PM (w41GQ)
This ongoing hatefest is fit for a low rent banana republic.
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at March 12, 2012 12:33 PM (AWmfW)
Posted by: maddogg at March 12, 2012 12:33 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: booger at March 12, 2012 12:34 PM (HI6wa)
Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at March 12, 2012 12:34 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 12, 2012 12:34 PM (DbhrR)
If you said the name Steve Schmidt, how many people would know who you're talking about?
Sorry Steve, you lose.
Posted by: Tami at March 12, 2012 12:34 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: John Galt at March 12, 2012 12:34 PM (9NQ6I)
Indeed. You'd like a world where at least half of these guys lose. If they all won, there hasn't been an election.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at March 12, 2012 12:34 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 12, 2012 12:35 PM (tf9Ne)
I'm not dead yet.
I think I'll go for a walk.
I feel happy. I feel happy...
Posted by: senator john mccain at March 12, 2012 12:35 PM (6RnvM)
Posted by: dagny at March 12, 2012 12:35 PM (u50z0)
From Wikipedia (The First & Only Source For Soledad O'Brien) In college he majored in political science.He left three credits short of graduating because he did not pass a math course; Schmidt has said that he has been diagnosed with a learning disability that makes higher math difficult for him.
Math is hard for Steve.
Posted by: mpfs at March 12, 2012 12:35 PM (iYbLN)
I'm thinking he tried to put the Ladies Man Will Folks Funky Cold Medina moves on her, and she shut him down. Hard.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 12, 2012 12:36 PM (XCHGh)
Steve, that's code for, "you're stupid."
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at March 12, 2012 12:36 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: John McCain at March 12, 2012 04:32 PM (w41GQ)
Fight with me.
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at March 12, 2012 12:36 PM (AWmfW)
Posted by: steevy at March 12, 2012 12:37 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: Steve Schmidt at March 12, 2012 12:38 PM (Iyg03)
Posted by: Steve Schmidt at March 12, 2012 12:38 PM (Iyg03)
Current femynyst thought aside, a vaj is not a disability.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 12, 2012 12:39 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 12, 2012 12:40 PM (DbhrR)
Posted by: dagny at March 12, 2012 12:40 PM (u50z0)
Posted by: John McCain at March 12, 2012 12:40 PM (w41GQ)
Posted by: mugiwara at March 12, 2012 12:40 PM (qlUax)
These guys are 3rd string Democrats sent out to join GOP offices and generally make a mess of things. Unfortunately for the GOP, these guys are indistinguishable from actual GOP staff.
/conspiracy hat
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] at March 12, 2012 12:40 PM (NCyJy)
What, he could count to 50?
Douchebag.
Posted by: mpfs at March 12, 2012 12:41 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at March 12, 2012 12:41 PM (NVu2l)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 12, 2012 12:41 PM (+lsX1)
Bullhockey. Colleges will make accomodations for you or provide you with alternate options if you have a diagnosed learning disability. If you want to graduate, you can graduate.
Posted by: mama winger at March 12, 2012 12:42 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Penfold at March 12, 2012 12:42 PM (1PeEC)
I keep telling my 20 year old son that with his level of whining he needs some midol or vagisil? Is that wrong?
Posted by: dagny at March 12, 2012 12:42 PM (u50z0)
Posted by: cherry at March 12, 2012 12:43 PM (OhYCU)
"Who would ever hire this guy again, knowing that if he gets cranky and doesn't get his woobie he's going to start backstabbing? ~ rdbrewer
Backstabbing is one thing.....Schmidt has done even worse than that, if he has been revealing inside information about a campaign that he was running. ....Did he help HBO with writing this movie? ....He doesn't seem to be refuting anything about it.
Who in their right mind would ever trust him with anything ever again?
Posted by: wheatie at March 12, 2012 12:44 PM (aykLa)
Maybe the only way you could graduate was to determine the square footage of carpet needed to cover the entire state.
Posted by: mpfs at March 12, 2012 12:44 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 12, 2012 12:44 PM (i330i)
Posted by: mpfs at March 12, 2012 04:35 PM (iYbLN)
Too bad he didn't just go shopping and leave us alone.
Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at March 12, 2012 12:45 PM (RD7QR)
What's two times three? Let me see....
*thump* *thump* *thump* *thump* *thump* *thump*
How do you win a campaign?
I don't know that one. I'm just a horse.
Posted by: Clever Schmidt the Ciphering Horse at March 12, 2012 12:45 PM (w41GQ)
And I really thought Barak's pants crease was delectable.
Posted by: willow at March 12, 2012 12:45 PM (TomZ9)
Oh, me! me!
Posted by: Jon Huntsman at March 12, 2012 12:45 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head
Distinctly possible, his sister wears comfortable shoes IYKWIM.
Posted by: mpfs at March 12, 2012 12:45 PM (iYbLN)
His career was already over. He's been toxic for quite awhile now. The simple fact is that any GOP candidate who hired him would immediately get swamped by a wave of negative publicity from the conservative grassroots -- and this was the case long before the movie ever came out.
Schmidt knows this. He knows he has nothing to lose. He's positioning himself for a punditry gig at this point, and building his "bipartisan" credentials with an eye towards that.
That is all.
Posted by: Jeff B. supports SMOD/Coldcuts '12 at March 12, 2012 12:46 PM (irCrF)
Frum is a Canadian turd
Posted by: Bob Dole
Turds like these two know no borders.
Posted by: mpfs at March 12, 2012 12:46 PM (iYbLN)
prepared to be president on the ticket, thatÂ’s a bad result.
Sure is.
Oh wait. He's not talking about Barry?
Posted by: mama winger at March 12, 2012 12:46 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 12, 2012 12:47 PM (i330i)
Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at March 12, 2012 12:48 PM (qwK3S)
MSNBC is always looking to add more white people to it's staff.
Posted by: toby928© at March 12, 2012 12:48 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: mpfs at March 12, 2012 12:48 PM (iYbLN)
One is an evil manipulative bitch who destroys whomever she gets close to
The other was a character played by Olivia d'Abo on Law and Order Criminal Intent
Posted by: kbdabear at March 12, 2012 12:48 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Havedash at March 12, 2012 12:48 PM (F0WNa)
Game Change is sort of like the other one they did a while back, Recount, which was about the 2000 election and the Florida brouhaha. It was a picture-perfect retelling of events from the Democratic perspective -- kind of like Game Change is.
Posted by: OregonMuse at March 12, 2012 12:48 PM (L4QNV)
Yes Schmhidt i know everyone in my family lost their good employment and are now working at minimum wage levels, with little HOPE for a future that looks bright. Because of course losing isn't so Bad!
thanks Schmidt, because you helping play g-d made sure that we would be legislated out of freedoms/ and an economy for years to come.
Posted by: willow at March 12, 2012 12:49 PM (TomZ9)
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2012 12:49 PM (TOk1P)
Offer him some cheese.
Posted by: The French Surrender Monkeys at March 12, 2012 12:49 PM (joSBv)
Posted by: The Political Hat at March 12, 2012 12:49 PM (XvHmy)
Hmmm. Must be an apprentice at Little Greenish Toejam.
Posted by: mama winger at March 12, 2012 12:49 PM (P6QsQ)
Schmidt knows this. He knows he has nothing to lose. He's positioning himself for a punditry gig at this point, and building his "bipartisan" credentials with an eye towards that.
I was wondering back in late '08 or early '09 whether his mouth was going to hurt him. I couldn't believe he'd going around trashing his client like that.
Posted by: rdbrewer at March 12, 2012 12:50 PM (Iyg03)
Is that wrong?
I keep a Midol Bottle in the med kit on my boat for people who whine a lot.
It works wonders.
Posted by: garrett at March 12, 2012 12:50 PM (e1k4E)
Posted by: willow at March 12, 2012 04:45 PM (TomZ9)
Frum was just trying to cover getting caught meat gazing The One.
Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at March 12, 2012 12:50 PM (NVu2l)
Bob Dole thinks you misspelled "impotency", young fellah. Bob Dole hates sloppy typing. And even the pills Bob Dole hawks on TV won't help that guy.
Posted by: bob dole at March 12, 2012 12:50 PM (6RnvM)
And coincidentally, just in time for another Presidential election!!
Posted by: mama winger at March 12, 2012 12:51 PM (P6QsQ)
Obama. He hired him the last time as near as I can tell.
Somebody should punch ol' Schmidtty right in the pie hole.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 12, 2012 12:51 PM (yqRWu)
Breitbart is dead, and along with him, any hope we had of ever getting a good person to run for elective office.
If only there was an anonomous blogger - a masked man - who would ride through the internet mocking and destroying people like Schmidt and Wallace with rapier-like wit. Someone who could write, but will balls so large he would need an extra horse to carry them.
Where could we find such a man?
Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2012 12:52 PM (FdndL)
Posted by: Roy at March 12, 2012 12:52 PM (VndSC)
If operatives like Schmidt and Wallace have grave reservations about the clients they serve thats OK. Happens all the time.
Whats not OK is to air dirty laundry in public like this. That is the unforgivable act of disloyalty, not the fact that neither of them thought Palin was prepared to be POTUS.
Funny though, I never once heard either Schmidt or Wallace say a word about how fundamentally unqualified Obama was/is.
It is well within reason for people to think that the reason Wallace and Schmidt are still crapping on Palin is that is keeps them relevant on the DC/NYC cocktail party circuit, where it is a virtual requirement of invitation that one state for the record that Palin is a knuckle dragging moose eater who doesnt know which side won WW2.
I'd be shocked if a national campaign ever hires one of these two ever again. I certainly wouldnt, for the disloyalty reason given above, not the fact that both are over-rated pampered beltway mediocrities from a talent standpoint.
Posted by: MD at March 12, 2012 12:52 PM (ytKgL)
HBO has been dead to me for 3 weeks now. I have never felt so free (unless you count the weekend in Tiajuana with "Ronda") Only problem is that I'm gonna have to turn it back on when the new season of Boardwalk Empire comes on or my wife will kill me.
Posted by: dananjcon at March 12, 2012 12:52 PM (8ieXv)
Posted by: Mike James at March 12, 2012 12:53 PM (spLGA)
*I don't care if Michelle fucking Obama is responsible for this or not, I'm going to blame her anyway just because I need to put a face on my fucking anger.
Posted by: caunotaucaurius at March 12, 2012 12:53 PM (SHvfC)
When Steve Schmidt farted.
They all came out retarded,
The McCain Campaign.
Posted by: nickless at March 12, 2012 12:53 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Roy at March 12, 2012 04:52 PM (VndSC)
Yes, Shrummy's career has always perplexed me. He's, what, 1 for 12 or something absurd like that? And yet he still gets hired. He's the Norv Turner of politics.
Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at March 12, 2012 12:54 PM (RD7QR)
Who do you think fed all the negative rumors to Peggy "Drunk Before" Noonan when the announcement came. Who knew Bristol was pregnant and held it back for the big frag grenade they tossed in their own tent?
Posted by: kbdabear at March 12, 2012 12:54 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Matt at March 12, 2012 12:56 PM (90w0O)
Posted by: rdbrewer at March 12, 2012 12:56 PM (Iyg03)
Posted by: caunotaucaurius at March 12, 2012 04:53 PM (SHvfC)
*
That is fucked-up. Who are these people. They don't think, they just do.
Fuckin DO-gooders!
Posted by: dananjcon at March 12, 2012 12:56 PM (8ieXv)
Posted by: caunotaucaurius at March 12, 2012 04:53 PM (SHvfC)
Write back on the e-mail they send home and tell then you'd like to come to school to weigh all the teachers.
Posted by: Tami at March 12, 2012 12:56 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: SGT Dan at March 12, 2012 12:56 PM (jCQ+I)
That's horrendous. Absolutely beyond any of their business. I would call the Supt. of Schools.
Posted by: mama winger at March 12, 2012 12:56 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Meghan McCain at March 12, 2012 12:57 PM (fYOZx)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 12, 2012 12:57 PM (cQpP1)
Niiice.
Posted by: toby928© at March 12, 2012 12:57 PM (GTbGH)
This piece of shit movie....and Schmidt's douchebaggery....also serves as a 'Warning' to all of the potential VP-picks for the ticket this year.
Their message is clear....."Don't run. Don't take the offer. If you do, we will destroy you, and the R's will not protect you from it!"
Posted by: wheatie at March 12, 2012 12:58 PM (aykLa)
Sarah Palin ran for President? F*ckin hell! I wish someone had told me, I would have liked to vote for her. When did she do that exactly? During the Repub primaries this year or some other time?
This Scmidt douche and the Nicole Wallace (or whatever her name is) backstabber should be in the Arlen "Stand Up Guy" Spector story instead. Just two more examples of individuals that are completely self-serving, dishonest, and creepy.
Posted by: ole scratch at March 12, 2012 12:58 PM (+56Bh)
Posted by: Detective Thorn at March 12, 2012 12:58 PM (e8kgV)
How'd Schmidt and the other amateurs get big time campaign jobs in the first place?
Posted by: Wm T Sherman at March 12, 2012 12:58 PM (w41GQ)
Only problem is that I'm gonna have to turn it back on when the new season of Boardwalk Empire comes on or my wife will kill me.
Bit Torrent.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 12, 2012 12:58 PM (XCHGh)
1998 Campaign CA State Sen Tim Leslie for Lt. Gov. EPIC FAIL
1998 Communication Director for CA State Treasurer Matt Fong against Babs Boxer. EPIC FAIL
1999 Communication Director for LAMAR! Alexander presidential campaign. EPIC FAIL
2008 McCain campaign for President. EPIC FAIL
Hmmm, I see a pattern.
Steve Schmidt, Sooper Genius.
Posted by: mpfs at March 12, 2012 12:59 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Tami at March 12, 2012 04:56 PM
PERFECT.
Posted by: mama winger at March 12, 2012 12:59 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Wm T Sherman at March 12, 2012 04:58 PM (w41GQ)
The same way I got on the campaign- blow jobs aplenty.
Posted by: Meghan McCain at March 12, 2012 12:59 PM (fYOZx)
Hmm. Sounds like the right guy to take over McCain II: The Romneying
Posted by: Cicero at March 12, 2012 01:00 PM (QKKT0)
*I don't care if Michelle fucking Obama is responsible for this or not, I'm going to blame her anyway just because I need to put a face on my fucking anger.
Posted by: caunotaucaurius at March 12, 2012 04:53 PM (SHvfC)
Sounds crazy.
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at March 12, 2012 01:00 PM (AWmfW)
Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at March 12, 2012 01:00 PM (qwK3S)
Posted by: Cicero at March 12, 2012 01:00 PM (QKKT0)
everyone in the class got weighed and measured, and that I will be
getting an e-mail from the school telling me about healthier food
choices because she is "overweight." What. The. Fuck. I am LIVID. Thanks
a lot for instilling a negative body image on my previously self
confident third grader. Fuckers!.
--------
Reminds me of my favorite cs lewis quote:
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 12, 2012 01:00 PM (C8hzL)
instance, many people wish to give up meat for ecological reasons, but
lack the willpower to do so on their own. The paper suggests that such
individuals could take a pill that would trigger mild nausea upon the
ingestion of meat, which would then lead to a lasting aversion to
meat-eating. Other techniques are bound to be more controversial. For
instance, the paper suggests that parents could make use of genetic
engineering or hormone therapy in order to birth smaller, less
resource-intensive children.
And if you don't we will.
Posted by: Department of Climate Change Compliance at March 12, 2012 01:01 PM (RD7QR)
Contrast this with how Bush 41 kept the staffers in line back in '92... He let it be known that anyone going against his decisions would be blackballed from future campaigns and it was clear even then that both Jeb and W were rising stars in the party.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 12, 2012 01:01 PM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Roy at March 12, 2012 04:52 PM
Whew, you said dumbest GUY. My title is safe
Posted by: Susan Estrich at March 12, 2012 01:02 PM (Y+DPZ)
Where could we find such a man?
They pick up my trash on Thursday mornings, sometime around 5 am.
Posted by: Rubio's Clues at March 12, 2012 01:02 PM (e1k4E)
Posted by: USS Diversity at March 12, 2012 01:02 PM (vpe0k)
Tell them you're talking to your lawyer about remedies for their flagrant disregard of HIPAA regulations.
Posted by: Heorot at March 12, 2012 01:02 PM (Nq/UF)
Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at March 12, 2012 01:03 PM (jTVGC)
Posted by: detective thorn laying on a stretcher at March 12, 2012 01:03 PM (6RnvM)
Posted by: Andy at March 12, 2012 01:03 PM (5Rurq)
a. Ace will make an appearance.
b. AoS traffic counter will hit 150 million.
Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2012 04:26 PM (G/zuv)
The traffic counter will hit 100 trillion before the formatting is fixed.
Posted by: YIKES! at March 12, 2012 01:04 PM (2TRSa)
Posted by: Tami at March 12, 2012 04:56 PM (X6akg)
you're awesome!
Posted by: willow at March 12, 2012 01:04 PM (TomZ9)
Posted by: YIKES! at March 12, 2012 05:04 PM (2TRSa)
**********
That's nothing. I've been hit more times than that. Why do you think I have to spend so much on birth control?
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at March 12, 2012 01:05 PM (ggRof)
a. Ace will make an appearance.
b. AoS traffic counter will hit 150 million.
Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2012 04:26 PM (G/zuv)
The traffic counter will hit 100 trillion before the formatting is fixed.
The formatting works just fine, man.
Posted by: Some Moron at March 12, 2012 01:05 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at March 12, 2012 05:03 PM (jTVGC)
Too little, too late.
McCain should have come out with both guns blazing tearing Schmidt and Wallace apart.
Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2012 01:05 PM (FdndL)
152 -
That's nice of him, but I sincerely doubt he has any real clear idea what was happening during his campaign, enough to say what is or is not b.s.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2012 01:06 PM (TOk1P)
My 9 year old daughter came home from school today and said that
everyone in the class got weighed and measured, and that I will be
getting an e-mail from the school telling me about healthier food
choices because she is "overweight."
Because it's never too early to work on your personal demons.
Posted by: Zombie Karen Carpenter at March 12, 2012 01:07 PM (e1k4E)
Chief Meehan then twice called the reporter, Doug Oakley, and sent him numerous follow up emails urging him to alter wording in the story about a community meeting called to examine Berkeley police response to the Feb. 18. murder of Peter Cukor.
The 12:45 am visit by Sgt. Mary Kusmiss on March 9 and subsequent police demands have left Oakley disturbed and shaken. “
I haven’t slept in 24 hours,” said Oakley, who lives in Berkeley and has written about the city for six years. “It was really intimidating.”
Posted by: Doug Oakley at March 12, 2012 01:07 PM (e8kgV)
"Schmidt has said that he has been diagnosed with a learning disability that makes higher math difficult for him."
Being diagnosed as stupid doesn't make you less stupid, Steve.
Posted by: irright at March 12, 2012 01:07 PM (RzLbD)
Posted by: dagny at March 12, 2012 01:08 PM (u50z0)
Posted by: Geneen Gurrhaffalo at March 12, 2012 01:08 PM (E3985)
Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at March 12, 2012 01:08 PM (jTVGC)
ever think that Micky thought it a shoe in to get elected and
no way was america going to vote for inexperience
over a Man who Gave years of his life for the USA?
Posted by: VISZZY at March 12, 2012 01:08 PM (DiZLZ)
(reposted from an earlier thread)
WeÂ’re going to win in November, but we donÂ’t deserve it.
If we continue to field candidates who are so fucking stupid
(surrounded by staff and advisors who apparently are even more fucking stupid), we have no business running a government.
Political campaigns should be won by people who recognize opportunities and exploit them, not slow witted eunuchs who couldnÂ’t find their ass with both hands.
There is an entire army of right wing voters who proved
their numbers and motivation during the 2010 midterm elections waiting for someone to speak up for our side. On Saturday, HBO aired “Game Change”, a shameless hit piece on Sarah Palin. Here it is Monday afternoon, and not one of our candidates have taken the opportunity to forcefully denounce the film, the self serving ex-political advisors who fabricated this fiction and most of all, the MSM, who are too lazy and partisan to question the ludicrous assertions made.
Approval numbers shoot through the roof when our people
attack the left and the press, but there is no one on our side with the balls and the chivalry to stand up for what is right. Instead of hitting it out of the park, Newt is conducting secret talks with the silver-tongued Rick Perry. Santorum is still stuck on birth control and Mitt, the ball-less wonder, stutters from one engagement to another.
What a fucking worthless party we have.
Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2012 01:09 PM (FdndL)
Posted by: gadem at March 12, 2012 01:09 PM (bUsF0)
Posted by: caunotaucaurius at March 12, 2012 01:09 PM (SHvfC)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, rip andrew at March 12, 2012 01:10 PM (Ho2rs)
to me it seemed he was more interested in being interactive with the solution.
where's Obama said let others deal with it, i just want to campaign and have women faint over me. (it seemed irresponsibleat the time)
Posted by: willow at March 12, 2012 01:11 PM (TomZ9)
from school today and said that everyone in the class got weighed and
measured, and that I will be getting an e-mail from the school telling
me about healthier food choices because she is "overweight."
Somebody needs to get punched in the face.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 12, 2012 01:11 PM (ZKzrr)
“Our future’s looking bright, because I trust the man who’s leading us. And that man is Barack Obama,” Smith, 53, says in a new Obama campaign Web video to promote the group African-Americans for Obama. “
I have the president’s back, and it’s up to us as African-Americans to show that we have his back also.”
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 12, 2012 01:12 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 12, 2012 01:12 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: dagny
Wow! I wish they had sales like that where I live........
Posted by: myYbj at March 12, 2012 01:13 PM (myYbj)
downplay it.
Posted by: willow at March 12, 2012 01:13 PM (TomZ9)
Posted by: Andy at March 12, 2012 05:03 PM
Don't forget Mark McKinnon
Posted by: kbdabear at March 12, 2012 01:13 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: USS Diversity at March 12, 2012 01:14 PM (vpe0k)
Posted by: caunotaucaurius at March 12, 2012 01:15 PM (SHvfC)
Tell them you're talking to your lawyer about remedies for their flagrant disregard of HIPAA regulations.
I like this one. HIPAA is broader than FLOTUS' hips.
Posted by: fluffy at March 12, 2012 01:16 PM (4pSIn)
The immediate response from those who know her only from public appearances and Facebook postings is that they're lying, backstabbers who don't know the real Sarah.
I don't need the likes of Schmidt to tell me that Palin is a shallow-minded drama queen with a penchant for attention-whoring. It's plenty obvious without them bagging on a former candidate / reality TV star.
Most people were tired of her act long ago. Why would anybody want to watch a movie starring a fake Sarah Palin when the real thing is annoying enough as it is?
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 12, 2012 01:17 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at March 12, 2012 01:17 PM (e1k4E)
Posted by: Michelle Obama at March 12, 2012 01:17 PM (ggRof)
Posted by: willow at March 12, 2012 05:13 PM
Downplay it to the child. Raise seven kinds of Hell to the school board.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 12, 2012 01:17 PM (ZKzrr)
also i would include, I have my own doctor , thank you for your concern.
Posted by: willow at March 12, 2012 01:17 PM (TomZ9)
No pudding. For dipping or otherwise. I have a chubby kid so there is nothing in my house to eat. He's also tall. In fact at 8, he's the same size as his brother was at 12 and wears the same size shoe as I do but he's shaped like my dad who played football at the University of Arkansas. The doctor had trouble getting his chest out of the womb. He's a fire hydrant.
Here is his pic in the moron's kids section in Yahoo groups: http://tinyurl.com/83848pq
But he's not the Mooch's ideal and I'm in a constant state of angst.
Posted by: dagny at March 12, 2012 01:17 PM (u50z0)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 12, 2012 05:12 PM (cQpP1)
ISWYDT. I think.
Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at March 12, 2012 01:17 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: willow at March 12, 2012 01:18 PM (TomZ9)
---------------
.... fat bottomed girls you make the rockin world go round.....
Posted by: If Barrack were Freddie Mercury at March 12, 2012 01:18 PM (C8hzL)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, rip andrew at March 12, 2012 01:18 PM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: Cthluthu at March 12, 2012 01:19 PM (AH8RI)
sour cream, a green pepper, a yellow pepper, a red pepper, a package of
tortillas, an onion and a bottle of lotion. $36
Don't worry about the boneless chicken. You'll get the bone later.
You'll be glad you have the lotion.
Posted by: The Obama Regime at March 12, 2012 01:19 PM (QKKT0)
That is none of the school's business. It has nothing to do with their education and everything to do with her own doctor and personal medical records. The school is in violation of HIPPA laws and if they did it in front of other children they are toast.
Posted by: mpfs at March 12, 2012 01:19 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 12, 2012 01:20 PM (bxiXv)
170 -
I'm not questioning the fact that the movie is b.s. I'm saying I think the amount of "direct knowledge" John or his wife have regarding how his campaign was being run is very limited.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2012 01:20 PM (TOk1P)
And by "weighed and measured" I hope you meant "tarred and feathered".
How about teaching little Susie to read and do math you statist fucks. Is that too much to ask?
Posted by: Andy at March 12, 2012 01:21 PM (5Rurq)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 12, 2012 05:17 PM (SY2Kh)
That's why great candidates are lining up to enter races for our side - they know they can depend on people like you.
I always wondered where democrats find people stupid enough to believe their shit. I guess they don't have to look farther than AoSHQ.
Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2012 01:21 PM (FdndL)
Posted by: dagny at March 12, 2012 01:22 PM (u50z0)
Posted by: dagny at March 12, 2012 01:23 PM (u50z0)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 12, 2012 01:23 PM (bxiXv)
In the movie.....McCain's 'decision' to suspend his campaign, was made as a political ploy. ....The idea wasn't even his idea. It was his advisors, Schmidt and company, who came up with the idea.
McCain was shown worrying about the financial meltdown, and how the O-team would be blaming it on Bush....and asking "what should I do". ....So the movie writers went out of their way to make McCain out to be this power-hungry guy who didn't do anything out of principle, only for political gain.
Posted by: wheatie at March 12, 2012 01:23 PM (aykLa)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 12, 2012 01:24 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Fritz at March 12, 2012 01:24 PM (FDEjy)
Posted by: dagny at March 12, 2012 01:25 PM (u50z0)
Posted by: Death Chipmunk at March 12, 2012 01:25 PM (niW49)
Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at March 12, 2012 01:25 PM (jTVGC)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 12, 2012 05:17 PM (SY2Kh)
--------------------------------
Fuck off, Hollowpoint. You've become tiresome.
Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2012 01:26 PM (/IYqz)
I cannot forget that bit of treason. Its burned into my mind. Nicole Wallace is a traitor, and should be shunned by anyone who considers themselves conservative. BTW, this chick slept her way to these jobs.. and in other news, Hannity has this bizarre relationship with her. She's on his show and giggles like a little girl for some reason. Crazy
I hope to god she never gets a job again. Go to hell bitch
Posted by: Hulu- Your home 4 -BAD- Korean Soap Operas.. WTF? at March 12, 2012 01:26 PM (u4/vX)
193 -
That's some first rate stupid you got going there, dude. If a bunch of campaign staffers all act like a middle school clique, you take it as Gospel? Get some outside corroboration, then we'll talk. Until then, you're just another Palin-hating liberal.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2012 01:26 PM (TOk1P)
Please explain the HIPPA laws to me (privacy is that it)? In case I need to use that on the spur of the moment.
Regulations concerning the privacy of medical records. Try asking your doctor about your husband's last checkup.
Posted by: fluffy at March 12, 2012 01:26 PM (4pSIn)
That fuckstick left before the campaign even got started really good because McCain was going to be mean to Barack.
If McCain's lame-ass effort was mean, nice comes with kneepads and a towel.
Posted by: Andy at March 12, 2012 01:26 PM (5Rurq)
Posted by: Michelle Obama at March 12, 2012 01:26 PM (ggRof)
For all the talk about how "bullying" is wrong, it really seems to depend on who the target is, isn't it? Fat kids have always been targets for playground bullying, but instead of dealing with the bullies, "educators" bully the kids' parents.
Kids whose parents take them to church believingly and kids whose families own guns are next, if they aren't already experiencing this.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 12, 2012 01:26 PM (ZKzrr)
How hard is it to pick a newspaper? How freaken hard is it? She froze at the worst possible moment.
McCain and Palin deserve each other.
Posted by: Anony at March 12, 2012 01:26 PM (qiXMt)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 12, 2012 01:27 PM (hiMsy)
Posted by: S Daniel at March 12, 2012 01:27 PM (BVkEs)
Sarah Palin would make a great candidate like Stephen Hawking would make a great basketball player.
If my comments on AoSHQ discourage the next Sarah Palin, Christine O'Donnell or Herman Cain from running for national office, then... you're welcome.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 12, 2012 01:27 PM (SY2Kh)
No, it's even worse than that. He and/or Wallace were trashing Palin in leaks BEFORE the election. That's your proof right there that they lower than whale shit.
Posted by: stace at March 12, 2012 01:27 PM (lYlx9)
Not to mention scoring points with SCOAMF's wife by showing "concern" over What Our Kids Eat.
Posted by: Retread at March 12, 2012 01:27 PM (joSBv)
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 12, 2012 01:27 PM (cCsxG)
Posted by: dagny at March 12, 2012 05:22 PM (u50z0)
------------------------------------
Yeah. Dry skin. That's it.
Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2012 01:28 PM (/IYqz)
Posted by: Luddite at March 12, 2012 01:30 PM (ggRof)
Posted by: Insomniac at March 12, 2012 01:30 PM (DrWcr)
@229, HeatherRadish
Thanks....I was just going to mention that this is Bullying....by the teachers.
They probably don't expect any pushback from it, since they think they have such absolute power over us and our kids.
Posted by: wheatie at March 12, 2012 01:30 PM (aykLa)
Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at March 12, 2012 01:31 PM (jTVGC)
Posted by: caunotaucaurius at March 12, 2012 01:31 PM (SHvfC)
Everybody knows that the average politician is such a shrinking violet you can barely get them to appear in public, much less on camera.
Posted by: Heorot at March 12, 2012 01:31 PM (Nq/UF)
Posted by: dagny at March 12, 2012 01:31 PM (u50z0)
Posted by: wheatie at March 12, 2012 05:30 PM (aykLa)
isn't that the truth.
Posted by: willow at March 12, 2012 01:32 PM (TomZ9)
Posted by: mrclark at March 12, 2012 01:32 PM (5CU2g)
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at March 12, 2012 01:32 PM (Dll6b)
I said it OT in another thread but it is refreshing that Palin has decided not to respond to this movie as she may have in the past.
Julianne Moore is very pretty!
Posted by: Sarah Palin at March 12, 2012 01:33 PM (4pSIn)
Ummm, no. The Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1985 did that.
Posted by: Andy at March 12, 2012 01:33 PM (5Rurq)
Posted by: Insomniac at March 12, 2012 01:33 PM (DrWcr)
Posted by: The Dude at March 12, 2012 01:33 PM (M8yfa)
Posted by: mare at March 12, 2012 01:33 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: wankette at March 12, 2012 01:33 PM (CrYip)
If little johnny draws a crayon picture of daddy with a gun, Daddy's going to jail when he comes to pick Johnny up.
They DO have absolute power over you and your family. You're delusional if you think otherwise.
Posted by: Death Chipmunk at March 12, 2012 01:33 PM (0tRzD)
Posted by: dagny at March 12, 2012 01:34 PM (u50z0)
Posted by: Ace's Ass at March 12, 2012 01:34 PM (wWrHp)
What form of "outside corroboration" would you accept? Every time someone says anything less than worshipful about St. Sarah Patron Saint of the Aggrieved, it can only be because they're a disgruntled lying RINO liberal anyways, right?
Sarah Palin is the Insane Clown Posse of the political world, followed by adoring fans who don't know they're being punked by someone interested only in fame and fortune.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 12, 2012 01:35 PM (SY2Kh)
I would also look at your state's public health laws. A lot of state's have public health laws include privacy provisions. Also look at the education law (or whatever it is called), it may have provisions about student privacy.
Posted by: Penfold at March 12, 2012 01:35 PM (1PeEC)
Posted by: caunotaucaurius at March 12, 2012 05:31 PM
I know that look. Bravo!
Posted by: mama winger at March 12, 2012 01:35 PM (P6QsQ)
So how is that labor union thing working for you ...
The Australian Nurses Federation (ANF) announced on Wednesday an end to the protracted nine-month industrial campaign waged by public hospital nurses and midwives in Victoria over a new enterprise bargaining agreement (EBA).
The state Liberal government of Premier Ted Baillieu has made no concessions whatsoever, but the union bureaucracy insists that closed-door negotiations will conclude with an agreement for a new EBA by next Friday, March 16.
Posted by: Richard Trumka at March 12, 2012 01:35 PM (e8kgV)
i'd rather have had palin and her Supposed ego, than what we have
Posted by: willow at March 12, 2012 01:35 PM (TomZ9)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 12, 2012 05:27 PM (SY2Kh)
Maybe Schmidt needs an assistant. You should apply for the job.
Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2012 01:35 PM (FdndL)
Posted by: steevy at March 12, 2012 01:36 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: dagny at March 12, 2012 01:36 PM (u50z0)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, rip andrew at March 12, 2012 01:36 PM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: mama winger at March 12, 2012 01:36 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, rip andrew at March 12, 2012 01:37 PM (Ho2rs)
the post office
the bank Posted by: phoenixgirl, rip andrew at March 12, 2012 05:36 PM
I am banned from most forms of public discourse.
Posted by: mama winger at March 12, 2012 01:37 PM (P6QsQ)
I'm far from a Palinista, but that question was loaded to purpose. Pick a paper you don't have a subscription to and you're lying. I doubt, very few politicians read a newspaper, they probably have staff that skim the news for relevant items and brief them. The question was formulated to cast her as uninformed. No answer other than a flat out lie would have diverted that end.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose finally remembers why he's here at March 12, 2012 01:37 PM (0q2P7)
Is he for 'em, or agin 'em?
Posted by: Retread at March 12, 2012 01:38 PM (joSBv)
Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2012 05:26 PM (/IYqz)
And you remain one of the dumbest commenters on AoSHQ. Did you miss out on the last HA open registration or something?
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 12, 2012 01:38 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: nerdygirl at March 12, 2012 01:39 PM (E3985)
Posted by: andycanuck at March 12, 2012 01:40 PM (6RnvM)
260 -
Oh, well since you put it that way, with all your reason and logic, I now see the error of my ways. Thanks again, you keep the party pure. You're a saint yourself! Really, go get yourself a halo and stick it on your head!
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2012 01:40 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 12, 2012 01:40 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at March 12, 2012 05:40 PM (G/zuv)
I remember when threads were cat/kitten-free
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 12, 2012 01:41 PM (8sCoq)
Hey, me too! According to them, though, my first name is "Conservative" and my last name is, "Shut Up!".
Posted by: Death Chipmunk at March 12, 2012 01:41 PM (pVvkk)
"V. Frequently Asked Questions
1. Does the HIPAA Privacy Rule apply to an elementary or secondary school?
Generally, no. In most cases, the HIPAA Privacy Rule does not apply to an elementary or secondary school because the school either: (1) is not a HIPAA covered entity or (2) is a HIPAA covered entity but maintains health information only on students in records that are by definition “education records” under FERPA and, therefore, is not subject to the HIPAA Privacy Rule."
PDF link under my nom de blog.
HHS Covered Providers link
http://tinyurl.com/d4nusr
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] at March 12, 2012 01:42 PM (NCyJy)
Posted by: willow at March 12, 2012 01:42 PM (TomZ9)
Posted by: Hopped up on Something at March 12, 2012 01:43 PM (9/zVj)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 12, 2012 05:38 PM (SY2Kh)
----------------------------------------
I'll sign up for HA as soon as you quit LGF.
Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2012 01:43 PM (/IYqz)
We went through a similar experience last fall with our son. We have become remarkably less "understanding" to the school. And oddly enough, his parent teacher conference is tomorrow - good times.
Posted by: Penfold at March 12, 2012 01:43 PM (1PeEC)
Posted by: dagny at March 12, 2012 05:23 PM (u50z0)
These laws mean nothing.. NOTHING, unless you're a member of a grievance group.
I had a mentally ill (I hope) supervisor follow me to a dr.s appointment after work, he came into the waiting room, and after I was called into the back with the doctor, he just barged into the exam room while I was talking to the doctor and sat down. Look on the Dr.'s face was priceless. I was so angry I about hit the ceiling, and left in a rage. of course it gets better, but i've only so much room. This is a major utility Co. with gov't ties in LA area
I attempted to sue them through the EEOC, and I was told after 2 years of administrative crap, that they decided not to pursue my case. Not jokeing.
The case was going fine, then my case worker lost her job (white)... I returned to the office to do some more admin crap, and the entire office of the EEOC in LA was completely staffed by black women (not a race thing.. I'm pointing out facts)
I wouldn't waste my time on anything related to HIPPA. Its one of those 'rights in name only' things. You'll not exit out the other side of this adventure a more healthy person, trust me. Save your health
Posted by: Hulu- Your home 4 -BAD- Korean Soap Operas.. WTF? at March 12, 2012 01:44 PM (u4/vX)
That's 99.999% of all politicians on earth. It's campaign staff's job to work with folks like that. So why are they bitching about the known conditions of their chosen profession? Pretty shallow minded drama-queen esque with a penchant for attention whoring if you ask me.
I tend to think more along the lines of, their is still blood in the SP political corpse, and still sacrificial points to be made draining it out.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose finally remembers why he's here at March 12, 2012 01:45 PM (0q2P7)
the post office
the bank
Posted by: phoenixgirl, rip andrew at March 12, 2012 05:36 PM (Ho2rs)
My kids used to be able to tell by the look on my face if someone said or did something that irritated me...they'd say, "Oh crap....she's going to go Sicilian on them."
Posted by: Tami at March 12, 2012 01:45 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Fritz at March 12, 2012 01:47 PM (FDEjy)
Posted by: mare at March 12, 2012 01:47 PM (A98Xu)
293 I'll bet Schmidt has a very healthy offshore account. No law says taking huge amounts of money from a third party during a campaign is illegal.
.....just sayin'
I remember having that same thought, back in 2008. .....It's like the McCain campaign was throwing the race, on purpose.
Posted by: wheatie at March 12, 2012 01:47 PM (aykLa)
Posted by: mare at March 12, 2012 01:49 PM (A98Xu)
Is there a link?
Posted by: irongramap at March 12, 2012 01:49 PM (SAMxH)
is often "tagged" in things like this because she is very, very tall (especially for her age, she is a July birthday but is almost the tallest in her class!)
They use BMI and it is notorious for flagging tall children - bottom line, BMI is stupid and doesn't work for adults, let alone children! It is meaningless and I have no idea why they still do this.
My daughter is NOT in public school, either. They never do anything but give me the report, which I dutifully toss in the circular file. She is not fat, very athletic, but over five feet tall at 8. Has always been off the height charts.
(I was the same, but stopped growing taller in 8th grade)
So, don't worry about it! Tall kids always fail the BMIPosted by: BlackOrchid at March 12, 2012 01:51 PM (SB0V2)
By "HA", you are referring to Hot Air, no? As if that's impressive?
Posted by: Mike James at March 12, 2012 01:52 PM (spLGA)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 12, 2012 01:53 PM (SB0V2)
Posted by: mare at March 12, 2012 01:53 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: willow at March 12, 2012 01:55 PM (TomZ9)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 12, 2012 05:51 PM (SB0V2)
------------------------------------
So do people who lift weights. The BMI is worthless.
Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2012 01:56 PM (/IYqz)
Posted by: mama winger at March 12, 2012 01:56 PM (P6QsQ)
I have a serious dislike of Bill Kristol because he is a backstabbing weasel like Schmidt. When I saw this thread I remembered reading about it.
I think Kristol was responsible for the Jeffords jump, by the way.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 12, 2012 01:57 PM (GoIUi)
Maybe, but one of the common themes you see from those who worked with her is that she showed little interest in working with staffers to adequately prep and was hostile to any form of criticism from those tasked with helping her.
We see that still today- how often does she admit making even the slightest mistake? How informed does she come across when she appears on Fox to deliver shallow platitudes?
Herman Cain at least had the excuse that he wasn't accustomed to political campaigns and the national spotlight. Palin has had 4 years to craft herself as a well informed and credible political analyst, but for whatever the reason hasn't, and doesn't seem interested in doing so.
Instead she talks about how awesome it would be to have a brokered convention... because it would allow her to stir up some more bullshit drama.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 12, 2012 01:57 PM (SY2Kh)
There's that.
But there's also a better answer than a deer-in-the-headlights look, like, say "Katie, you leftist whorebag, I get all my information from Ace of Spades HQ, the country's finest purveyor of news on business, the economy, media, longbows vs. crossbows, hobo hunting and the upper cup-size limit for Japanese boobs squishing through a hole in a door. So piss off."
Posted by: Andy at March 12, 2012 01:57 PM (5Rurq)
But it's quick and cheap. Who cares about accuracy? The important thing is filling in the box on the form with a number.
Posted by: Heorot at March 12, 2012 01:58 PM (Nq/UF)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at March 12, 2012 01:58 PM (d6QMz)
--------
Exactly. It's just that some completely lose their shit when they hear her name (HP).
Posted by: real joe at March 12, 2012 01:58 PM (9Wp9D)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 12, 2012 01:58 PM (SB0V2)
Posted by: mare at March 12, 2012 01:58 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: Lars Groteballen at March 12, 2012 01:58 PM (024H9)
Posted by: steevy at March 12, 2012 01:58 PM (7W3wI)
Guess who Bill Kristol hates? Mitt Romney. Guess who he supports? Rick Santorum.
DO THE MATH. ADD IT UP, FOLKS.
Posted by: Jeff B. supports SMOD/Coldcuts '12 at March 12, 2012 01:58 PM (irCrF)
This Schmidt guy ought to form a political consultancy with his twin in the democrat party, Bob Schrum.
Schmidt and Schrum - when you wanna lose big and whine forever!
Posted by: Boots at March 12, 2012 01:59 PM (neKzn)
No, Obama is the Milli Vanilli of the political world.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 12, 2012 01:59 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: mare at March 12, 2012 01:59 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: disgusted at March 12, 2012 02:00 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: mare at March 12, 2012 02:00 PM (A98Xu)
In the interview that Sarah Palin gave early on, when she was asked what periodicals she read, she should have answered the question. She tried to BS a non-answer. I don't care if she reads "People" Magazine. Answer the damn question. She made herself look like a fool. She could have lied and said "National Review, First Things, Weekly Standard, Wa-Po, NYT, MAD Magazine, etc.
Posted by: Jimbo at March 12, 2012 02:00 PM (O3R/2)
The 'vetting' thing in the movie....
They went to great lengths to keep pointing out how the 'vetting' of Palin was a rushed job, by McCain's people.
Personally.....I think they did this to provide 'cover' for the way the Liberroid media went after Palin so savagely, and called it 'vetting'. ....Trouble is, they sent a fucking army after Palin, to dig up anything they could find.....and yet gave Barky a complete wave-through.
Posted by: wheatie at March 12, 2012 02:01 PM (aykLa)
Bill Kristol is a shitbag. Never met a conflict he wasn't willing to go to war with.
Kritsol, McCain, and Lindsey Graham. Three cocksuckahs.
Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2012 02:01 PM (G/zuv)
Posted by: midterm math exam for POLI 101 at March 12, 2012 02:02 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: mare at March 12, 2012 02:02 PM (A98Xu)
The staffers are the ones trashing her to cover their own pathetic asses.
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 12, 2012 02:02 PM (Sh42X)
Posted by: Mike James at March 12, 2012 02:04 PM (spLGA)
Um, yes.
If you're a scairdy-cat about the person you're trying to get nominated, then GTFO. I'm still trying to make sense of this guy.
F'rinstance, why didn't he have the campaigns' cameras there to record the Couric interview with Sarah? It's not like he didn't know she was going into hostile territory: why go in unarmed?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 12, 2012 02:04 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: steevy at March 12, 2012 02:04 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: willow at March 12, 2012 04:27 PM (TomZ9)
A cousin of ours worked on Sarah's team. And he was not one of the back-stabbers.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 12, 2012 02:05 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: mare at March 12, 2012 06:02 PM (A98Xu)"
Suzannah Martinez is just as good a candidate. Rubio has said he doesn't want to run yet and no one is respecting his wishes.
Posted by: disgusted at March 12, 2012 02:05 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 12, 2012 02:06 PM (SB0V2)
The really sad part is that we don't realize that we can't afford the luxury of talking shit about people on our own side.
Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2012 02:06 PM (G/zuv)
Posted by: mare at March 12, 2012 02:06 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: steevy at March 12, 2012 06:04 PM (7W3wI)
----------------------------------------
Jindal, Perry, DeMint, Bolton, just to name a few.
Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2012 02:06 PM (/IYqz)
Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2012 06:06 PM (/IYqz)
The 'stache at the bottom of the ticket would cause libs heads to explode. Which would be fun.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 12, 2012 02:08 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: mare at March 12, 2012 02:08 PM (A98Xu)
You claim to be saving us from unworthy candidates but so far I only see the field being left open for the truly awful being served up from the left. Perhaps you and you ilk should devote more effort to saving us from the likes of Obama.
Posted by: epobirs at March 12, 2012 02:08 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: mare at March 12, 2012 06:06 PM (A98Xu)
------------------------------------
Ah, yes. Allen West. Definitely put him on that lise too.
Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2012 02:08 PM (/IYqz)
That he lost to Barack Obama with Obama's radical ties and very thin resume was an epic failure. They were winning until Mccain's campaign reacted to the economic problems very poorly.
Steve Schmidt has to find a scapegoat for his failure.
Obama was the weakest major presidential candidate in the past century, and Mccain wasn't... even if I don't actually like Mccain on all issues.
It's mind boggling that they failed this hard. They can blame Bush and Palin all day long, but the real fault was with this campaign.
Posted by: Dustin at March 12, 2012 02:08 PM (wcT+8)
Posted by: disgusted at March 12, 2012 02:09 PM (oZfic)
But I guess we won't find that out, will we?
Posted by: irongrampa at March 12, 2012 02:09 PM (SAMxH)
milli vanilli was relatively harmless- obama is fucking things up so bad it will take decades to undo
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 12, 2012 02:10 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 12, 2012 06:08 PM (UOM4
-----------------------------------------
I know. I was dreaming. We can still dream, can't we?
Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2012 02:10 PM (/IYqz)
Posted by: Darth Cheney at March 12, 2012 02:11 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2012 06:06 PM (/IYqz)"
I supported Perry for President, but I don't think he should be the VP nominee. He's doing more good as Governor than he'd ever do as VP and frankly he's a crappy politician so he doesn't help Romney. Plus I imagine he genuinely dislikes Romney. And Texas will go for Romney in a general anyway.
Rubio is a much better choice. He's a good advocate, he's just a Senator today... but would be enhanced greatly as VP and help the party's image AND help with a tough swing state.
Don't get me wrong... we could do a lot worse than Perry. We are doing worse at the top of the ticket.
Posted by: Dustin at March 12, 2012 02:12 PM (wcT+8)
Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2012 06:10 PM (/IYqz)
your dreams will be tightly regulated under o'golfpantscare
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 12, 2012 02:12 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: mare at March 12, 2012 06:08 PM (A98Xu)
The rumors are that romney would go with McDonald to "deliver the south"
Posted by: disgusted at March 12, 2012 02:13 PM (oZfic)
On points and on paper, perhaps. Face to face, and judged by an audience of dumb voters (but I repeat myself): Biden was able to beat her in '08, just by lying his ass off with a straight face.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at March 12, 2012 02:13 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2012 06:10 PM (/IYqz)
That's depends....what's your BMI?
Posted by: Busybodies everywhere at March 12, 2012 02:13 PM (X6akg)
Totally agree. Kevin Phillips had his run as the House Conservative and Frum is almost at the end of his. Schmidt is just hoping he is next in line.
Posted by: David Frum at March 12, 2012 02:15 PM (NDZar)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at March 12, 2012 02:15 PM (4136b)
so who to believe?
Posted by: willow at March 12, 2012 02:16 PM (TomZ9)
Posted by: mare at March 12, 2012 02:17 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: Titsie McCain at March 12, 2012 02:17 PM (FDEjy)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at March 12, 2012 06:15 PM (4136b)
---------------------------------------
The only drawback I had was that I liked Uncle Fester.
Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2012 02:18 PM (/IYqz)
Bolton needs to be SoS, not VP. VPs are worthless in terms of influence on policy.
Posted by: Cicero at March 12, 2012 02:19 PM (QKKT0)
A girl can dream, can't she?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 12, 2012 02:20 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Steve Schmidt at March 12, 2012 02:20 PM (4pSIn)
Posted by: mare at March 12, 2012 02:20 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: disgusted at March 12, 2012 06:13 PM
Ah. Rumors.
Posted by: mama winger at March 12, 2012 02:20 PM (P6QsQ)
Obama was the weakest major presidential candidate in the past century, and Mccain wasn't... even if I don't actually like Mccain on all issues.
It's mind boggling that they failed this hard. They can blame Bush and Palin all day long, but the real fault was with this campaign.
It wasn't a great campaign, but there's really no scapegoat (with the possible exception of GWB) needed- it was a bad year for Republicans. Nothing Palin could've said or done would've turned it around, and it's unlikely McCain would've won even if he ran a stellar campaign (which he definitely didn't).
Palin could've and should've done a better job preparing for engaging with the media, but in the end it would've done little but spare her a little of the ridicule that would be thrown her way regardless.
I doubt any of the staffers like Schmidt honestly believe that McCain would've won if not for Palin. However, they have egos too, and if they felt like their advice wasn't valued, they're going to be prone to lashing out.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 12, 2012 02:21 PM (SY2Kh)
"disgusted" has all the inside dirt, as usual. Be sure to scoop it carefully for the cat turds.
Posted by: Cicero at March 12, 2012 02:22 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2012 02:22 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: mare at March 12, 2012 02:23 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: Daybrother at March 12, 2012 02:23 PM (9/zVj)
Posted by: madamex at March 12, 2012 02:24 PM (SEOs4)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at March 12, 2012 02:24 PM (4136b)
"The REAL Sarah"?? Jesus please us, you have been subjected to the real Sarah from the fucking get go. Who she is shines as brightly as a spotlight. I doubt there has ever been a politician as thoroughly vetted as that woman.
She remains the same person as always, as consistent as can be. If any one of the present candidates were as plain spoken the enthusiasm for that person would skyrocket--and all of you who downplay her know that, admit it or no.
But we mustn't acknowledge that the only one with the chops to win convincingly isn't running.
Posted by: irongrampa at March 12, 2012 02:24 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: Cicero at March 12, 2012 06:19 PM (QKKT0)
-----------------------------------------
He could go to the state funerals of the various dictators who'll eventually die and tell the populace that, "Yes, this POS that ruined your country is indeed finally dead".
Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2012 02:24 PM (/IYqz)
Posted by: mare at March 12, 2012 02:25 PM (A98Xu)
Hey, I am praying hard core that Romney is not the nominee because most of the independents and possible dems who might cross over and not vote for Obama, can't see a difference between romney and obama and some even can't stand plastic mitt. Would like to see the Republican party re configure the entire primary process so Iowa's and Maine's can't happen, so the system is beyond reproach. So people can't even think that if you have enough of a personal fortune you could buy the republican nomination. I would like to have seen rick Santorum have the momentum from Iowa instead of watching them give it to Romney when it didn't fit the narrative.
Posted by: disgusted at March 12, 2012 02:25 PM (oZfic)
>>>Instead she talks about how awesome it would be to have a brokered >>>convention... because it would allow her to stir up some more bullshit drama.
I had hoped you would analyze a bit better than that.
In either event what I was hoping you'd get out of my comment was, IF Palin was simply substantially more purist and uncompromising in her political views than the staff felt comfortable with how would they describe her?
Well if all of the political forums where I have debated various topics with the so called pragmatists is of any indication. Shallow minded comes immediatly to mind. Pragmatists believe that their "nuance" is absolutely necessary, and that if you disagree with them you are either stupid or uninformed. So once they explain the "facts" to you and you are no longer uninformed, if you still disagree, you're stupid.
Far be it for some other intelligent human to analyze the same subjective situation and come up with a different conclusion.
Anyway it is well within the realm of possibility that their bitching stems from their displeasure with her ideology, not from an actual thoughtful analysis of her intelligence.
No she would not have made a good candidate (you loaded Palinista into your gun, I saw you) and even she knew that. She never improved because she never intended to run, so didn't need to.
And at this point, in my opinion, the final 3 have buggered this so badly that come primary day, I am specifically voting for a brokered convention. I know Mitt is our only hope. Well, I disagree.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose finally remembers why he's here at March 12, 2012 02:27 PM (0q2P7)
Yeah, Bolton would do that. Or maybe he could go to countries led by muslim fundies or commie dictators and announce he's there for a "pre-funeral."
Posted by: Cicero at March 12, 2012 02:28 PM (QKKT0)
I know what I see, and it annoys me. So does the ridiculous hero / celebrity worship.
Given that the claims by former staffers align with my personal impressions, it's no surprise that I'm a bit more predisposed to giving them credibility (deserved or not) than I otherwise might.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 12, 2012 02:29 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2012 02:30 PM (/IYqz)
Posted by: Daybrother at March 12, 2012 02:31 PM (9/zVj)
Those would be the former staffers imposed upon her by the McCain campaign, no?
Posted by: Mike James at March 12, 2012 02:31 PM (spLGA)
In either event what I was hoping you'd get out of my comment was, IF Palin was simply substantially more purist and uncompromising in her political views than the staff felt comfortable with how would they describe her?
That doesn't fit though- she was perfectly happy to toe the party line with regards to immigration and other such positions that McCain held.
That she ran her silly "maybe I'll run maybe I won't" con game for so long didn't help improve my perception of her as a drama queen.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 12, 2012 02:33 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: disgusted at March 12, 2012 02:34 PM (oZfic)
That is utter bullsh*t. This is their profession. And their actions show an utter lack of professionalism. In any real profession, of ability and ideas
1. Yes you are going to have egos
2. If get dissed too often, find a new job with someone else.
3. If you get dissed too often and respond by publicly running down those whom you worked with and for, prepare to be unemployed.
Every other successful profession practices keeping their ego in check and not publicly whining like little bitches when their every word isn't cherished as genius.
This backbiting is inexcusable at every level.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose finally remembers why he's here at March 12, 2012 02:34 PM (0q2P7)
Hollowhead is a Murkowski butt-boy who loves corruption and nepotism. He's hated Palin since day 1.
Posted by: 01_d!r7y_/b/74rd, 1337 h4x0r at March 12, 2012 02:34 PM (KSjsb)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 12, 2012 06:29 PM (SY2Kh)
so you're just looking for validation.
Posted by: The Dude at March 12, 2012 02:35 PM (M8yfa)
or 999 Cain, I don't think so. Would she have possibly said 'I like firing people'
or 'I don't care about poor people. they pay people for this sort of advice.
Posted by: Cthluthu at March 12, 2012 02:36 PM (AH8RI)
Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2012 02:36 PM (/IYqz)
Posted by: andycanuck at March 12, 2012 02:36 PM (6RnvM)
I wonder if it smells like cat piss, because that's the odor I get around here.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 12, 2012 02:37 PM (nEUpB)
And yeah, of course it was a bad year for Republicans. Thanks to the weak Mccain campaign in large part. Thanks partly to the economy, too.
But in many respects, Mccain did not hit Obama powerfully enough. They did not seem to have a clear vision for this country. Obama was a much weaker candidate in many respects that they barely addressed at all.
It was a tough year for the GOP, and we will have many more tough years when our presidential campaigns are run like Mccain's was.
Posted by: Dustin at March 12, 2012 02:38 PM (wcT+8)
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2012 02:38 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: theCork at March 12, 2012 02:39 PM (hbAdE)
All successful politicians (At least since about 1930) are drama queens. Some just a little less obvious about it.
As far as the "Lack of fit" part, it was no secret that she was far more conservative than McCain. No matter how much she bent, I doubt is was sufficient for his staff.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose finally remembers why he's here at March 12, 2012 02:40 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2012 02:40 PM (/IYqz)
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at March 12, 2012 02:41 PM (FsqHK)
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2012 02:43 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: runninrebel at March 12, 2012 06:15 PM (N/1Dm)
Enyv is the root of socialism.
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at March 12, 2012 02:43 PM (AWmfW)
She remains the same person as always, as consistent as can be. If any one of the present candidates were as plain spoken the enthusiasm for that person would skyrocket--and all of you who downplay her know that, admit it or no.
But we mustn't acknowledge that the only one with the chops to win convincingly isn't running.
Posted by: irongrampa at March 12, 2012 06:24 PM (SAMxH)
I couldn't agree more. The fact that is, if there was any dirt or malfeasance to be found in Palin it would be on the front pages for days on end, tells me this woman character is to be admired. As mentioned above, who on the political landscape now has been vetted to the extreme degree that she has? No one is the answer. It's a damn shame that the smears against Palin have been allowed to stick. Too many on the right have once again bought into the left's meme. We listen well when the left tells us what we should think of someone.
Posted by: Havedash at March 12, 2012 02:43 PM (JfvbF)
Posted by: mare at March 12, 2012 02:44 PM (A98Xu)
I think Barky And Co. had plotted and planned for 2012 to be Them vs teh Sarah, whether she ran or not.
Just like 2008, Bammy's campaign ran against Booosh, who wasn't even on the ticket--and it f*k'n worked--get ready for Bammy vs Sarah 2012.
Posted by: Generic Postr at March 12, 2012 02:45 PM (szPD/)
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2012 02:45 PM (Gc/Qi)
Yeah, because it's not enough that she lost the election and her political career was destroyed, she needs to be defamed endlessly for the rest of her life, right Hollowhead?
Posted by: 01_d!r7y_/b/74rd, 1337 h4x0r at March 12, 2012 02:45 PM (KSjsb)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at March 12, 2012 02:46 PM (4136b)
Posted by: mare at March 12, 2012 02:47 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: the hobbit fomerly known as Donna at March 12, 2012 02:48 PM (ZHge+)
I see how this works. I say something in all sincerity, you call it a lie, and then ALL Romney supporters are liars, as is Romney.
I am not shutting up, and if you think calling me a liar is going to keep me quiet, you don't know me.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 12, 2012 02:48 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2012 06:36 PM (/IYqz)
FIFY
Posted by: Insomniac at March 12, 2012 02:48 PM (GjDnP)
Posted by: mare at March 12, 2012 06:47 PM (A98Xu)
------------------------------------
AND her husband AND her kids.
Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2012 02:48 PM (/IYqz)
Posted by: Peregrine Took, Hobbit S.O.B. at March 12, 2012 02:48 PM (owwdk)
Also watching McCain on the Fox News Sunday program, I had an overwhelming sense of how much better the world would be right now if McCain had been leading US policy during the Arab Spring instead of what we have seen out of the Obama crowd.
Posted by: Kaisersoze at March 12, 2012 02:49 PM (NDZar)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at March 12, 2012 02:49 PM (4136b)
437 Palin's uterus is truly the most vetted candidate......possibly ever.
Posted by: mare at March 12, 2012 06:47 PM (A98Xu)
FTFY. I personally made sure of that.
Posted by: Andrew Sullivan, OB/GYN at March 12, 2012 02:50 PM (GjDnP)
The biggest criticism you can reasonably level against Palin is that she was naive. Mainly, she had no idea what a pool of sharks she found herself among, IN THE MCCAIN CAMPAIGN.
The Couric interview? Yeah, I forget if it was Wallace or somebody else, but she was told point blank, Katie is on board and ready to make you look good.
That deer in headlights look you get from Palin? That's her realization she was set up to look bad BY THE MCCAIN CAMPAIGN.
So yeah, if you want validation that Palin was a bad candidate, you needn't look any further than the people who RAN THE MCCAIN CAMPAIGN.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2012 06:43 PM (Gc/Qi)
Most probably , there were no sane reason to make that interview so early and in that way with a crazy liberal jorno if they had planned to win.
If she was so unprepared as they say , they would have tons of attack bites from that multi day interview.
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at March 12, 2012 02:50 PM (AWmfW)
Italics
Underline
Strike through
Posted by: Cicero at March 12, 2012 06:50 PM (QKKT0)
So it's the formatting bar that's not working.
Posted by: YIKES! at March 12, 2012 02:53 PM (2TRSa)
"I'm surprised to hear that Denver is thinking about him," Romney said of Manning. "I don't want him in our neck of the woods.I don't want to see him at Miami or the Jets. Both owners are friends of mine but let's keep him away from New England so Tom Brady can pick up another championship for us."
Via @bdomenech
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at March 12, 2012 06:49 PM (4136b)
---------------------------------------
You hear that, Dallas?
Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2012 02:53 PM (/IYqz)
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2012 02:53 PM (Gc/Qi)
==========
Did your cousin give you any insights you can share?
Posted by: Kensington at March 12, 2012 02:54 PM (/AHDz)
Posted by: Drew in MO at March 12, 2012 02:54 PM (BDGkt)
No doubt Schmidt and others responsible for the Palin movie are scum. No doubt they deserve a beatdown.
But why is it up to the GOP candidates to deliver it? Why should they be put on the spot, taking time and focus from their campaign messages to defend Palin and denounce a stupid HBO movie on the 2008 election-- when it's Democrats who should be put on the spot every day and be forced to defend Obama now in the year 2012?
What this movie as well as the recent Dem ad against Palin shows is that Obama and DNC would like a replay of 2008: they'd like to run against Palin (a Tina Fey and now Julianne Moore'd Palin). Obama is such a SCOAMF that they'd like to make this election a referendum on Rush and Palin (as quote unquote "de facto leaders" of the GOP)-- instead of a referendum on Obama.
They put a lot of effort into setting up that lose/ lose trap re the Rush "slut" thing, demanding that the GOP candidates defend or denounce him. If the candidate criticizes Rush too much, he risks alienating the conservative base; if he doesn't criticize him enough, the DNC conflates them in the whole BS "war on women" meme. Fortunately, Romney didn't fall for either prong of that trap.
The Dems want to determine the topic of MSM discussion. They want to force the GOP candidates to talk about e.g. Rush-- instead of the SCOAMF's SCOAMFness. Why oblige them? Your demand that the GOP candidates take time to publicly defend Palin (who is no damsel in distress) also plays into the Dems' hands, setting up another possible lose/ lose trap for the candidates. If they don't defend Palin enough, they alienate the conservative base; if they defend her too much, the Dems/ MSM conflate the candidates with Palin, distract from the issues at stake in the 2012 election and instead rerun 2008, Obama vs. (the Tina Fey/ Julianne Moore caricature of) Palin.
Which isn't to say conservatives and Republicans shouldn't defend Palin and denounce the egregiously unfair attacks on her, e.g this hitjob of a movie. But it would be a distraction to overdo it and turn this into a battle of damsels in distress (Fluke vs. Palin). And in particular it would be a distraction to demand that the candidates do the defending and denouncing.
IMO one of the political mistakes Obama has so far made in the whole cynical Dem-orchestrated Fluke thing was to intervene so conspicuously himself-- calling Fluke, congratulating her parents, invoking Sasha and Malia in his criticism of Rush. He wants to pander to women and so plays the role of Fluke's gallant defender, denouncer of the evil Rush. But this habit of Obama's to "punch down"-- a POTUS going after a media personality on a pretty trivial matter (the word "slut")-- makes Obama look smaller, weaker, politically opportunistic and petty. Doesn't he have more urgent things to attend to?
By the same token, for the GOP presidential candidates to spend valuable time going after Steve Schmidt (who? he's a gnat undeserving of any attention at all) or a stupid HBO movie would also be a case of "punching down", a distraction from much more important issues, letting themselves get embroiled in the Dem/ MSM-conjured pettiness du jour. And it would be *just* the ticket Schmidt needs to get that Frum gig: for any of the GOP candidates to publicly go after Schmidt would only be a gift to him, a boost to his career prospects as an MSM "GOP" pundit.
Posted by: lael at March 12, 2012 02:54 PM (jvEwI)
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2012 02:56 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: mare at March 12, 2012 02:56 PM (A98Xu)
There's a big difference in invoking an incumbent President, as a defacto leader of the party, and an ex-governor/ex-VP candidate that was defeated. Yeah that would be pretty stupid. If the best O can do is run against Sarah, we are in better shape than I thought. I doubt Goracle would have stomped Bush if he had just concentrated more on Jack Kemp.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose finally remembers why he's here at March 12, 2012 02:57 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Red Shirt at March 12, 2012 02:59 PM (FIDMq)
He's talking about the AFC East which shows he knows more about football then Obama ever did.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 12, 2012 02:59 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: dagny at March 12, 2012 02:59 PM (u50z0)
At the very least, Ole John didn't get to pick a cabinet. or any thing else.
Please AZ, take care of John for the rest of us.
Posted by: Pecos, Texas where women shoot their own snakes at March 12, 2012 03:00 PM (2Gb0y)
Posted by: mare at March 12, 2012 06:56 PM (A98Xu)
----------------------------------------
Not just when it comes to Palin and her messege. It was the whole fucking campaign. I knew we were going to lose after the don't-speak-of-Obama's-middle-name admonishment.
These people should carry at least part of the blame for what is happening to our country now.
Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2012 03:01 PM (/IYqz)
Posted by: mare at March 12, 2012 03:01 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2012 03:01 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: dagny at March 12, 2012 03:01 PM (u50z0)
That is true, Palin will only end up being more liked. It kind of reminds me of this last week with Fluke and Rush Limbaugh. The media tried to play it off as a big win for the left but the polls are showing that it was either a loss for the Dems or not big enough to over ride the rising price of gas.
Posted by: Drew in MO at March 12, 2012 03:03 PM (BDGkt)
==========
Did your cousin give you any insights you can share?
Posted by: Kensington at March 12, 2012 06:54 PM (/AHDz)
He liked her. Said she was smart. He wasn't one of the douchebags who back-stabbed her.
And that's all I'm going to say on this blog.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 12, 2012 03:03 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: dagny at March 12, 2012 03:04 PM (u50z0)
I thought the Supreme Court was the only branch that could do that.
Could someone explain this to me?
Posted by: mare at March 12, 2012 07:01 PM (A98Xu)
------------------------------------
We don' need no steenking judge.
Posted by: SCOAMT regime at March 12, 2012 03:05 PM (/IYqz)
Posted by: dagny at March 12, 2012 03:07 PM (u50z0)
Posted by: rdbrewer at March 12, 2012 03:07 PM (Iyg03)
This time Bammy IS that incumbent, and we all know Sarah has (or had...) quite a following, a leader of sorts who's obviously still some kind of threat to them. I dunno, just wondering why should they dredge her up so much now?
But whatever.
Posted by: Generic Postr at March 12, 2012 03:08 PM (szPD/)
Posted by: Drew in MO at March 12, 2012 03:08 PM (BDGkt)
I don't remember Hillary doing a lot of interviews, during the 2008 campaign.
In fact, it was widely known that Hillary wouldn't do any interviews, with anybody, unless she had complete 'review and consent' of the questions that would be asked....in writing. ....So she could sue if there were any questions that deviated from the ones she consented to.
So yeah, I agree with all those who say that Palin was set up.....by Schmidt, and whoever else was responsible for throwing her to the dogs. ....They fucked up. Whether it was on purpose, or from being idiots....it was their piss poor management that was at fault.
Posted by: wheatie at March 12, 2012 03:09 PM (aykLa)
"What powers this abandoned factory, these darkened homes and those empty schools?"
"The newest and greenest power source of all, Fluking."
"Discovered by Our own Grand Emperor, Obama the Magnificent...."
Posted by: Beto at March 12, 2012 03:10 PM (lpWVn)
Posted by: mare at March 12, 2012 07:01 PM
AG Holder is claiming they have federal jurisdiction because it involves the federal issue of discrimination. Because too many Hispanics don't have IDs.
They know it's going to get tossed because the Supremes have already ruled on this in a case involving Indiana I believe. This is a stalling tactic that will hopefully drag past the election so they have more time to cheat. The same thing is happening in Wisconsin, only it's state judges not Federal. Dems are hoping to tie the Voter ID laws up in court past November so they can cheat their way to victory.
Posted by: mama winger at March 12, 2012 03:10 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: East Bay Jay at March 12, 2012 03:11 PM (ocHBO)
"A lot"? I don't believe so.
From what I've seen, it was pretty much a wash- for every moderate voter who wouldn't vote for McCain because they disliked Palin (and there were a significant number of those), there was a conservative who didn't like McCain but voted because they liked Palin.
If it helped McCain, it wasn't by much.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 12, 2012 03:12 PM (75ggp)
...and 120 percent more likely not to be eligible.
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at March 12, 2012 03:12 PM (I8Xca)
Didn't HBO used to run Firestarter about 6 times a day back in the 80s? Sandwiched between Not Necessarily the News and Mask (sorry to spoil your dinner)...
I'm just saying...I would not run afoul of Piper Palin.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 12, 2012 03:12 PM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 12, 2012 03:13 PM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: steevy at March 12, 2012 03:13 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: Cthluthu at March 12, 2012 03:14 PM (AH8RI)
And the nude scenes with Juliette Lewis in Boogie Nights...those are scenes which I will never be able to scrub from my poor brain.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 12, 2012 03:15 PM (Ec6wH)
They know it's going to get tossed because the Supremes have already ruled on this in a case involving Indiana I believe. This is a stalling tactic that will hopefully drag past the election so they have more time to cheat. The same thing is happening in Wisconsin, only it's state judges not Federal. Dems are hoping to tie the Voter ID laws up in court past November so they can cheat their way to victory.
Posted by: mama winger at March 12, 2012 07:10 PM (P6QsQ)
---------------------------------------
The Supremes need to start hurrying some of this shit along. Too much at stake to be puttering around in the backyard thinking of past precedent.
Posted by: SCOAMT regime at March 12, 2012 03:15 PM (/IYqz)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 12, 2012 07:13 PM (Ec6wH)
http://tinyurl.com/7jbvjrx
She's on her emotional baggage and delusion tour.
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at March 12, 2012 03:17 PM (I8Xca)
"A lot"? I don't believe so.
Then you weren't even in the country for the entire 2008 campaign, nor did you read newspapers or watch news on tv, nor did you talk to anyone in North America.
Show some mercy. Your statement doesn't pass the "horselaugh" test.
Posted by: Mike James at March 12, 2012 03:18 PM (spLGA)
Posted by: dagny at March 12, 2012 03:18 PM (u50z0)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 12, 2012 07:03 PM (UOM4
Thanks for letting us know what you could.
Posted by: Polliwog, Hobbit Teahada at March 12, 2012 03:20 PM (N5/RR)
I agree that it was unprofessional of them, but they're human too.
I'm sure you remember during the campaign that there were stories about conflict within the campaign (pretty common) regarding Palin. If they felt (rightly or wrongly) that she wasn't being a team player with regards to the campaign they were tasked to run, they're going to be tempted to speak out after the fact.
Perhaps they shouldn't have, but Palin isn't the only one with an ego.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 12, 2012 03:20 PM (75ggp)
Posted by: mare at March 12, 2012 03:21 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: mare at March 12, 2012 03:24 PM (A98Xu)
Show some mercy. Your statement doesn't pass the "horselaugh" test.
Actually I was and did.
If you care to look up the exit polls, I believe you'll find that I'm not far off when I say that she didn't help or hurt the campaign much. There were a significant number of Independents who very much disliked her, fairly or no.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 12, 2012 03:24 PM (75ggp)
Posted by: rdbrewer at March 12, 2012 07:07 PM (Iyg03)
You're saying that like you expected something positive out of that senile backstabbing Rino fuck. McStain doesn't get to skate on this any more than he has on his other shitheel moves through the years.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 12, 2012 03:28 PM (cCsxG)
The 'Dumbest Guy In Politics' Award; and the nominations are:
1)'Sheriff' Joe Biden
2)Rep. Hank Johnson
3)The Guy who hired Steve Schmidt
4)Steve Schmidt
5)Andrew Weiner
......and the winner is.......Preznit Barky the SCOAMF/T !!!
Posted by: Still Stupid After All These Years at March 12, 2012 03:31 PM (HH51r)
Posted by: Mike James at March 12, 2012 03:33 PM (spLGA)
Posted by: Boxy Brown at March 12, 2012 03:37 PM (pIovm)
I've known plenty of rock-ribbed conservatives that were still idiots.
Palin BADLY damaged the GOP brand. She's our Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson.
Posted by: BradleyHarm at March 12, 2012 03:40 PM (0kf1G)
Posted by: Mike James at March 12, 2012 03:43 PM (spLGA)
Posted by: rdbrewer at March 12, 2012 03:44 PM (Iyg03)
Posted by: mare at March 12, 2012 03:44 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: Mike James at March 12, 2012 03:45 PM (spLGA)
Perhaps they shouldn't have, but Palin isn't the only one with an ego.
No doubt they shouldn't have done this. And if they have such poor control of their egos that they did this, they are clearly the reason why McCain lost. Because this is both admission and QED that they were amateurs.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose finally remembers why he's here at March 12, 2012 03:48 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at March 12, 2012 03:51 PM (e3MVZ)
502: "Palin BADLY damaged the GOP brand."
Unpossible. Dubya and the Congresstards had already destroyed it and fired the rubble.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at March 12, 2012 03:56 PM (FsqHK)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at March 12, 2012 03:56 PM (e3MVZ)
The Undefeated is showing tonight at 10PM EST – 7PM Pacific
Now remember to remind others that they can watch The Undefeated on REELZ channel in their area by inputting their zip code at this linkÂ…
http://www.reelz.com/undefeated/
And if the movie is not available in their area on TV, then they can watch The Undefeated streaming on the net at this urlÂ…
http://www.filmon.com/tv/htmlmain/#Reelz-Channel
Posted by: tom at March 12, 2012 03:59 PM (hrysW)
Posted by: Pragmatic at March 12, 2012 04:00 PM (z8Cts)
She realizes she best serves her country by commenting on the sticky issues that the candidates refuse to address. She'll be most effective being used in that way.
Posted by: disgusted at March 12, 2012 04:04 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: toby928© at March 12, 2012 04:05 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: toby928© at March 12, 2012 08:05 PM (GTbGH)
Why don't you ask that question on her twitter page, she is very accessible.
Posted by: disgusted at March 12, 2012 04:24 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: independent thinker at March 12, 2012 05:50 PM (+oksp)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 12, 2012 06:04 PM (i330i)
Posted by: red speck at March 12, 2012 06:08 PM (9Xu0X)
Posted by: tn requin pas cher at March 12, 2012 06:22 PM (279LY)
Posted by: Mr. Khan at March 12, 2012 07:52 PM (6MiMG)
Posted by: oic at March 13, 2012 12:15 AM (gS0Xa)
Posted by: miikeb at March 13, 2012 08:12 AM (0GONp)
Hide Comments | Add Comment | Refresh | Top
64 queries taking 0.2177 seconds, 631 records returned.
Powered by Minx 1.1.6c-pink.
Posted by: wheatie at March 12, 2012 12:22 PM (aykLa)