June 29, 2012
— Ace I guess maybe this is a tax too.
“We just learned that ATF senior management placed two of the main whistleblowers who have testified before Congress about Fast and Furious under the supervision of someone who vowed to retaliate against them,” they wrote before describing how senior political figures have made dangerous threats before.Grassley and Issa said that in early 2011, right around the time Grassley first made public the whistleblowers’ allegations about Fast and Furious, Scot Thomasson – then the chief of the ATF’s Public Affairs Division – said, according to an eyewitness account: “We need to get whatever dirt we can on these guys [the whistleblowers] and take them down.”
Thomasson also allegedly said that: “All these whistleblowers have axes to grind. ATF needs to f—k these guys.”
Issa and Grassley want to know if Thomasson has been admonished. But that's probably executive privilege information, too.
From JammieWearingFool. He's got a story about Democrats donating to cover the costs of Obama events-- anonymously.
The details that Issa put into the Congressional Record can be found
here.
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Posted by: steevy at June 29, 2012 04:00 PM (Xb3hu)
Posted by: Terry at June 29, 2012 04:01 PM (Xn3nu)
Posted by: 141Driver at June 29, 2012 04:01 PM (FWDng)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 29, 2012 04:04 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: dananjcon at June 29, 2012 04:06 PM (DBqgn)
Posted by: JohnE. at June 29, 2012 04:07 PM (nRTou)
Posted by: steevy at June 29, 2012 04:07 PM (Xb3hu)
Posted by: Deli LLama at June 29, 2012 04:08 PM (uv9eO)
Posted by: steevy at June 29, 2012 04:08 PM (Xb3hu)
Posted by: political correctness czar at June 29, 2012 04:09 PM (Q2Ne0)
Posted by: Hrothgar (CJSC Designated Serf) at June 29, 2012 04:09 PM (i3+c5)
Posted by: eman at June 29, 2012 04:10 PM (ejmiE)
Posted by: toby928© at June 29, 2012 04:10 PM (QupBk)
Hi,
I like getting boned in the ass by a gorilla while lunatic homo hippies pick my pockets and tell me everything is my fault.
Posted by: hooray for me and fuck you pussy indie voter at June 29, 2012 04:11 PM (Qr9Rc)
We, the people, are the remedy. Run for precinct chairman, party central committee, whatever it is in your state. Get involved. Start knocking on doors, handing out slim jims, talking to people.
We outsourced our government and are now reaping the consequences.
Posted by: Arms Merchant at June 29, 2012 04:12 PM (+XVQe)
Posted by: A. at June 29, 2012 04:12 PM (JrGCM)
Posted by: steevy at June 29, 2012 04:12 PM (Xb3hu)
Posted by: John Roberts at June 29, 2012 04:13 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: steevy at June 29, 2012 04:14 PM (Xb3hu)
Demand Eric Holder's immediate resignation. Cut off funding to the DOJ until he's gone.
Posted by: Ernie McCracken at June 29, 2012 04:14 PM (ZETiK)
Posted by: steevy at June 29, 2012 04:15 PM (Xb3hu)
Posted by: steevy at June 29, 2012 04:16 PM (Xb3hu)
Posted by: JPS at June 29, 2012 04:17 PM (gXSjP)
Posted by: eman at June 29, 2012 04:17 PM (ejmiE)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 29, 2012 04:18 PM (Gk3SS)
9 Is shit getting real? It feels like shit is getting really real.
Posted by: JohnE. at June 29, 2012 08:07 PM (nRTou)
Shit's gone past real....to surreal.
Posted by: wheatie at June 29, 2012 04:18 PM (jPxSq)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 29, 2012 04:20 PM (/i3Yt)
Posted by: steevy at June 29, 2012 08:16 PM (Xb3hu)
But it's not tyranny if
it is for your own good,
or was done with good intentions,
or might help get Obama re-elected,
or might help get any democrat elected,
or might keep a democrat from going to jail,
or might increase the power of the state,
or might increase dependency upon the state
or might make things fairer.
Other than that, you might have a point!
Posted by: Hrothgar (CJSC Designated Serf) at June 29, 2012 04:21 PM (i3+c5)
But if upset the Dems there will be rioting
Posted by: hooray for me and fuck you pussy indie voter at June 29, 2012 04:22 PM (Qr9Rc)
--------
This is exactly what you get when you elect politicians from Chicago.
Posted by: mama winger at June 29, 2012 04:26 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Scummy Dread Lord Judge Pirate Roberts at June 29, 2012 04:27 PM (YdQQY)
Let's
Posted by: Fritz at June 29, 2012 04:27 PM (ZN5qR)
Posted by: eman at June 29, 2012 04:30 PM (ejmiE)
Posted by: ocd con at June 29, 2012 04:31 PM (Cm4Bs)
Posted by: steevy at June 29, 2012 04:31 PM (Xb3hu)
Posted by: ocd con at June 29, 2012 04:32 PM (Cm4Bs)
Have they had their carbon emissions permanently reduced?
When the people who run the Witness Protection Program want you dead, where do you go?
Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 29, 2012 04:32 PM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: steevy at June 29, 2012 04:33 PM (Xb3hu)
Posted by: Il Duce Barack Obama at June 29, 2012 04:33 PM (XvHmy)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at June 29, 2012 04:33 PM (Asr6U)
The worst results will be firings and resignations.
I doubt if they even get that.
Posted by: Vic at June 29, 2012 04:33 PM (YdQQY)
Maybe he means "Asian Teen Female needs to french kiss these guys"
Posted by: wooga at June 29, 2012 04:33 PM (vjyZP)
Posted by: steevy at June 29, 2012 04:34 PM (Xb3hu)
Posted by: soothsayer at June 29, 2012 04:36 PM (Y4TdB)
Posted by: mama winger at June 29, 2012 04:36 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: political correctness czar at June 29, 2012 04:36 PM (Q2Ne0)
SCOAMF is a corrupt, narcissistic, demagogic communist with a pop culture, snake oil salesman veneer.
Sorry, can't go there.
Posted by: ontherocks at June 29, 2012 04:37 PM (aZ6ew)
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 29, 2012 04:39 PM (XvHmy)
Woah.
A 'constitutional lawyer' on with Laura Ingraham right now.....ripping Roberts to shreds.
Michael Carvin, is his name.
Said Roberts "called a ball, a strike"....in other words, totally bad call.
Laura is filling in for OReilly.
Posted by: wheatie at June 29, 2012 04:40 PM (jPxSq)
Posted by: political correctness czar at June 29, 2012 04:40 PM (Q2Ne0)
At 19, I lived in a box during Nixon's second term. Rare I had food. Bad times
P.S. I had a job
Posted by: Beto at June 29, 2012 04:41 PM (BAnPT)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at June 29, 2012 04:42 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at June 29, 2012 04:42 PM (ZUg4j)
If you're gonna dream, do it big....
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at June 29, 2012 04:43 PM (Asr6U)
Posted by: teej at June 29, 2012 04:44 PM (cDwCa)
Posted by: political correctness czar at June 29, 2012 04:44 PM (Q2Ne0)
Anecdote time. Just got back from Costco, and while walking down the isle is see a young guy, maybe early 20s, wearing an Obama shirt with the big word 'CHANGE'. And as I get closer, the smaller letters say 'Help him change his address in 2013'.
Preference cascade?
Posted by: 141Driver at June 29, 2012 04:45 PM (FWDng)
That's why I recently made the decision to leave the country. Its been a long time coming, and was a very hard decision since it will entail huge financial loss and disruption in my life, but this is no longer the country I grew up in, and its behaving in a manner I simply can no longer support, and I've lost any faith that it can be reclaimed in my lifetime.
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 29, 2012 04:46 PM (IViAO)
Posted by: teej at June 29, 2012 04:47 PM (ZFXqT)
Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at June 29, 2012 04:48 PM (GkwjL)
Posted by: macintx at June 29, 2012 04:49 PM (ucs8Y)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at June 29, 2012 04:51 PM (Asr6U)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 29, 2012 04:53 PM (bxiXv)
PUNISH THE WHISTLE BLOWERS!!!!!!.
Signed,
0
BH0 Crime Syndicate Inc.
Posted by: redgrains at June 29, 2012 04:54 PM (TExGL)
Posted by: bernverdnardo at June 29, 2012 04:55 PM (xXhWA)
Posted by: steevy at June 29, 2012 04:56 PM (Xb3hu)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at June 29, 2012 04:56 PM (FEkzo)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BORTAC
He was the best of the best. Our government gave him bean bags. Who the fuck is the head of Homeland Security who gave this directive?
Posted by: political correctness czar at June 29, 2012 04:56 PM (Q2Ne0)
Posted by: eman at June 29, 2012 04:56 PM (ejmiE)
Posted by: macintx at June 29, 2012 04:57 PM (ucs8Y)
Posted by: bernverdnardo at June 29, 2012 04:57 PM (xXhWA)
Posted by: Ktgreat at June 29, 2012 04:58 PM (ToLWh)
Posted by: teej at June 29, 2012 04:58 PM (cDwCa)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 29, 2012 04:59 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: steevy at June 29, 2012 05:01 PM (Xb3hu)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 29, 2012 05:04 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: cajun carrot at June 29, 2012 05:05 PM (mO2XR)
Posted by: dj at June 29, 2012 05:05 PM (5cqTL)
To be clear, she was rallying white Christian men together. People of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... taxpayers.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at June 29, 2012 05:05 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: teej at June 29, 2012 05:06 PM (AiZkN)
Posted by: Kanye at June 29, 2012 05:07 PM (kEOQs)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at June 29, 2012 05:07 PM (FEkzo)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 29, 2012 05:07 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: The Political Hat (@ThePoliticalHat) at June 29, 2012 05:07 PM (XvHmy)
"Border Patrol union blasts Homeland Security instructions to 'run away' and 'hide' from gunmen"
http://tinyurl.com/6vk5bqr
Somebody should remind The Commander in Chief that "These Colors Don't Run".
Posted by: political correctness czar at June 29, 2012 05:07 PM (Q2Ne0)
Posted by: macintx at June 29, 2012 05:09 PM (ucs8Y)
Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at June 29, 2012 05:10 PM (ZUg4j)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 29, 2012 05:11 PM (bxiXv)
There's only one demographic in America which cares about any of that for its own sake.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at June 29, 2012 05:12 PM (QTHTd)
1. Guy whose nephew enlisted in the Navy. He thinks he will go for 20 years, because he doesn't want to get out and flip burgers. I commented that it was wise because of the lack of jobs. He went into an absolute tirade about illegal aliens and the Obama Dream Act.
2. Couple I ran into on Friday, when I picked up my auction purchases. They make extra money by going to garage sales and buying things and then bringing it to auction house to sell. They are fed up with schools and will home school next year. They blame Obama for the school mess.
3. Auctioneer is beside himself with the insurance stuff and the decision. Not happy at all. Definite Romney vote.
Posted by: Miss Marple at June 29, 2012 05:13 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 29, 2012 05:13 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at June 29, 2012 05:14 PM (9TTOe)
Posted by: teej at June 29, 2012 05:14 PM (AiZkN)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 29, 2012 05:15 PM (bxiXv)
Looking hard at western Australia. Port Hedland area to be specific. Its away from any of the big cities, at the edge of a desert, and the local economy is booming. Its a little warmer than FL in the summers, but there's little rain, so the humidity shouldn't be as bad, winters should be pleasant.
The taxes are harsh in Australia, but the salaries in the local industry appear to be correspondingly higher than in the USA. I have more faith that the Aussies will eventually throw off their nanystateism than the US will.
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 29, 2012 05:15 PM (IViAO)
Posted by: Purple Lipped Cocksuckers Union Local 710 at June 29, 2012 05:16 PM (uMOLf)
Posted by: The Political Hat (@ThePoliticalHat) at June 29, 2012 05:16 PM (XvHmy)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at June 29, 2012 05:17 PM (9TTOe)
Posted by: political correctness czar at June 29, 2012 05:17 PM (Q2Ne0)
"The separate, civil contempt charge that the House also passed Thursday, authorizes the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee to sue the Justice Department to try to force Holder to turn over more documents."
http://bit.ly/NZLX89
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at June 29, 2012 05:17 PM (d6QMz)
Posted by: teej at June 29, 2012 05:18 PM (fdnD9)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at June 29, 2012 05:19 PM (csi6Y)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at June 29, 2012 05:19 PM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 29, 2012 05:20 PM (IViAO)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 29, 2012 05:21 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at June 29, 2012 05:21 PM (csi6Y)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at June 29, 2012 05:21 PM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at June 29, 2012 05:22 PM (csi6Y)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at June 29, 2012 05:22 PM (csi6Y)
Posted by: steevy at June 29, 2012 05:22 PM (Xb3hu)
Posted by: small town girl at June 29, 2012 05:24 PM (NKWFJ)
Posted by: garrett at June 29, 2012 05:24 PM (hXgE2)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at June 29, 2012 05:24 PM (9TTOe)
Posted by: bernverdnardo at June 29, 2012 05:24 PM (xXhWA)
In the big cities where the liberals congregate maybe. Its a pretty universal thing in deserts around the world that nobody gives a shit what you do. There's no percentage in some govt tool hunting down a handful of people in the desert when there's whole cities for them to go after.
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 29, 2012 05:25 PM (IViAO)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 29, 2012 05:25 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: starry at June 29, 2012 05:25 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 29, 2012 05:27 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at June 29, 2012 05:27 PM (csi6Y)
Posted by: teej at June 29, 2012 05:27 PM (9ek7+)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at June 29, 2012 05:29 PM (csi6Y)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at June 29, 2012 05:29 PM (caAEA)
Posted by: mallfly at June 29, 2012 05:31 PM (NI3M5)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at June 29, 2012 05:31 PM (9TTOe)
Posted by: macintx at June 29, 2012 05:32 PM (ucs8Y)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at June 29, 2012 05:32 PM (caAEA)
Posted by: Jean at June 29, 2012 05:32 PM (4jJCE)
Seriously, who are the 46% still supporting this jackass?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 29, 2012 05:33 PM (UOM48)
There's a lot of room for the place to grow in the future too. Only about 22M people total, and the bulk of those are concentrated near the big cities. Find a place like Port Hedland, and the craziness of the cities is gonna be far away for a long time.
And I've never seen the Southern Cross. Its time I looked into the sky and saw the other half of the universe for a while.
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 29, 2012 05:34 PM (IViAO)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at June 29, 2012 05:34 PM (caAEA)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 29, 2012 05:35 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 29, 2012 05:35 PM (3yCFy)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at June 29, 2012 05:35 PM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at June 29, 2012 05:36 PM (csi6Y)
I know. That was a big minus. But I know how to make a shotgun out of stuff from a hardware store's plumbing dept.
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 29, 2012 05:36 PM (IViAO)
Joffen, there is a poll post on here a little way down thats a little more optimistic. Anyway, the shit hasn't hit the fan yet with all the worst parts of ObamaTax, and not everyone is as up-to-speed on this as us political junkies.
And besides, polls are bullshit.
Posted by: bernverdnardo at June 29, 2012 05:36 PM (xXhWA)
Posted by: the left at June 29, 2012 05:36 PM (ajjwb)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at June 29, 2012 05:37 PM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at June 29, 2012 05:38 PM (caAEA)
Good luck to you, but double check your research.
Posted by: Miss Marple at June 29, 2012 05:38 PM (GoIUi)
Harsh? Hardly. They just got a year long party with no school. That suspension is manna from heaven in their minds.
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 29, 2012 05:39 PM (IViAO)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at June 29, 2012 05:40 PM (caAEA)
Posted by: starry at June 29, 2012 05:40 PM (oZfic)
Because God welcomes us home. He is a "very present help in times of trouble."
Read Psalm 37.
Posted by: Miss Marple at June 29, 2012 05:40 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Nighthawk at June 29, 2012 05:40 PM (9lACO)
Yea, I'm sure beating the tax man is a cottage industry there as it is here ;-> I have to find some local pros who know all the dodges.
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 29, 2012 05:41 PM (IViAO)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at June 29, 2012 05:41 PM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at June 29, 2012 09:38 PM (caAEA)
I hear ya'.
Are you a Red Sox hat, too?!
Posted by: That 'It's Over Man' Guy in Wisconsin at June 29, 2012 05:42 PM (hXgE2)
Posted by: hmmmm at June 29, 2012 05:43 PM (e9LVX)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at June 29, 2012 05:44 PM (caAEA)
Posted by: t-bird at June 29, 2012 05:45 PM (FcR7P)
I will pray for the nation and I hope that you feel better tomorrow.
Posted by: Miss Marple at June 29, 2012 05:46 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 29, 2012 05:46 PM (3yCFy)
Joffen. I want you to take a deep breath. Now I want you to take another.
OK? Good.
Now, make the 'OK' sign with your right hand.
Take one more deep breath and hold it.
Flick yourself in the nuts.
Feel better?
Posted by: garrett at June 29, 2012 05:47 PM (hXgE2)
Don't go there. There is nothing but anger, heartbreak, disappointment, and rage....and self hatred.
She has broken my heart and doesn't care. I've given up on her. Don't do that to the ones you love.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 29, 2012 05:47 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at June 29, 2012 05:48 PM (9TTOe)
The Zero Hedge guy has a great essay about all of this. I think people don't realize what they are losing cause it is being portrayed as something noble and honest. They don't realize they will be taxed up the wazoo. They've said to me, "don't worry, when they find problems with it, Barack will fix it"....they truly truly truly in their heart of hearts believe that.
That's why I keep saying "we need to educate people".....they are the product of the liberal professors and teachers education system, they've been brain washed into the liberal theology of public schools.....
Posted by: stare decisis at June 29, 2012 05:48 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: Scandia at June 29, 2012 05:49 PM (3A7PP)
Posted by: steevy at June 29, 2012 05:50 PM (Xb3hu)
Posted by: macintx at June 29, 2012 05:51 PM (ucs8Y)
I come here because I don't have a single friend or relation who shares having a child or loved one at war.
I can laugh, get mad as hell, and let off steam among mostly sympathetic souls.
We've all got your back.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 29, 2012 05:52 PM (UOM48)
No need to cross the Pacific, in 2013 things will be fine here in the Republic of Tejas...
Don't forget, vote Rick Perry, President, 2013
Posted by: Bob's Country Bunker at June 29, 2012 05:52 PM (Bxm/r)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at June 29, 2012 05:52 PM (9TTOe)
Posted by: humphreyrobot at June 29, 2012 05:52 PM (EiH7n)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at June 29, 2012 05:54 PM (9TTOe)
Whew. That was close.
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at June 29, 2012 09:45 PM (vbh31)
now this, this was funny, you had to have laughed Joffen....
Posted by: stare decisis at June 29, 2012 05:54 PM (oZfic)
He should do it again.
Oh, he's not going to like the intense therapy course.
There's a pretty sizeable hardware list and a few waivers that need notarization.
Posted by: garrett at June 29, 2012 05:54 PM (hXgE2)
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at June 29, 2012 09:52 PM (vbh3
Yeah. She's my only sibling. And our parents and grandparents are dead. Can't tell you how my heart aches over my sister. After the last things she said to me and D'oh, I've given up. My heart is broken.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 29, 2012 05:55 PM (UOM48)
I fear the coming turmoil quite a bit. We're so far gone fiscally that I don't believe anyone can stop the cities from burning when the welfare checks start bouncing. Its gonna be the 60's all over again, only this time on steroids.
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 29, 2012 05:55 PM (IViAO)
Posted by: humphreyrobot at June 29, 2012 05:55 PM (EiH7n)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at June 29, 2012 05:56 PM (caAEA)
A lesbian, pagan, left-libertarian friend of mine was saying yesterday how wonderful it was. She also supported the SCOAMT forcing the Catholic Church to violate a 2000-year-old teaching as a condition of operating hospitals and charities.
I asked her if as a leftist she was comfortable giving the government that kind of power. She said that since health care for all was a good thing, it was okay that the government was forcing people to do it. I mentioned that the whole "We have to break some eggs to make an omelet" thing has never worked out well in the past. I also mentioned that the next government usurpation of liberty may not come from a liberal, and how we should like the government forcing pagans to violate their beliefs? She simply replied that some people will always be pissed off at the government, and she's glad "the needy" are now getting their at the expense of "the greedy."
All of these people will live to see the power they've happily handed over to the state used against them. That's how it always works. Sad, really.
Posted by: Palandine at June 29, 2012 05:56 PM (g7D8V)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at June 29, 2012 05:57 PM (9TTOe)
Posted by: macintx at June 29, 2012 05:57 PM (ucs8Y)
Posted by: stare decisis at June 29, 2012 05:59 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: Honey Badger at June 29, 2012 05:59 PM (SWev6)
>>I asked her if as a leftist she was comfortable giving the government that kind of power. <<
Ask her her views of the Pat Buchanan Administration.
That should do it.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 29, 2012 05:59 PM (BLhuW)
----
Jane, you are one of the best here. We all know that.
I am not a Socialist, nor do I love Obama (obviously). I know a lot of atheists are liberals, but...wasn't Hitchens an atheist?
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at June 29, 2012 09:56 PM (caAEA
I'm a pathetic excuse as a Christian. I have a sailor's mouth (sorry to all good sailors), but I have a generous heart.
I don't believe anyone has to believe in God to be a good and decent person. You come across as a kind, emotional (as anyone who cares about this nation is) and honest person.
Hang in there with the rest of us. You ARE NOT ALONE.
I for one, care about you.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 29, 2012 05:59 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at June 29, 2012 06:00 PM (caAEA)
Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 29, 2012 06:00 PM (1gzeK)
The level of punishment was unexpected. I think that's closer to what I meant.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 29, 2012 06:01 PM (3yCFy)
Posted by: Honey Badger at June 29, 2012 06:01 PM (SWev6)
Posted by: steevy at June 29, 2012 06:03 PM (Xb3hu)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 29, 2012 06:03 PM (3yCFy)
Posted by: Nighthawk at June 29, 2012 06:03 PM (9lACO)
Posted by: humphreyrobot at June 29, 2012 06:04 PM (EiH7n)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at June 29, 2012 06:05 PM (caAEA)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at June 29, 2012 06:09 PM (9TTOe)
Joffen, take deep breaths and read something interesting. Listen to some music.
I care about you and understand the anger you're experiencing. Hell, my husband pleads with me every night to STHU about politics.
I can't. And neither can you.
Get some sleep, my friend. We'll all be here tomorrow.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 29, 2012 06:09 PM (UOM48)
Joffen! *smack* Get ahold of yourself, there is much to do. All the crap this country has survived, and I'm supposed to hang it up over a poll?
Get out of town.
Posted by: Meremortal at June 29, 2012 06:09 PM (Usk3+)
Posted by: Scandia at June 29, 2012 06:09 PM (3A7PP)
Posted by: stare decisis at June 29, 2012 06:10 PM (oZfic)
They both seem like "Turd World" sh*t-holes, to me. Most of them have been there and think they can make the transition.
Me, not so much.
I'm not even gonna be thinking about it until after the next election. I'm hoping the next election is going to be EPIC!!!
If it's not, I guess we're pretty much screwed.
So it goes...
Posted by: ChrisP at June 29, 2012 06:10 PM (626PS)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at June 29, 2012 06:10 PM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Fox2! at June 29, 2012 06:10 PM (RJOgX)
Joff, if you are going to deny god, sooner or later you will realize that you have to revere reason.
You aren't being reasonable right now.
Posted by: garrett at June 29, 2012 06:11 PM (S2DZh)
Posted by: macintx at June 29, 2012 06:11 PM (ucs8Y)
Posted by: humphreyrobot at June 29, 2012 06:12 PM (EiH7n)
Posted by: Nighthawk at June 29, 2012 06:12 PM (9lACO)
I am NOT disappointed in my country--I am disappointed in what has been allowed to happen to it.
I am NOT ashamed of my country--the shame belongs to those who have harmed her.
I am NOT ready to quit on her--as long as I breathe I will fight for her.
Either join me or sit quietly in your chains.
Posted by: irongrampa at June 29, 2012 06:13 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at June 29, 2012 06:14 PM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 29, 2012 06:15 PM (C8mVl)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at June 29, 2012 06:15 PM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Honey Badger at June 29, 2012 06:17 PM (SWev6)
Posted by: stare decisis at June 29, 2012 06:17 PM (oZfic)
I don't really need the local economy to be booming per se. I'll probably be making a living off writing frivolous phone apps for idiots, and doing some tech consulting and custom woodworking when I get bored with that.
Even if the tonnage exports slow, port infrastructure always requires a constant level of maintenance.
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 29, 2012 06:17 PM (IViAO)
Only about 8 more weeks before his deployment is over.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 29, 2012 06:18 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at June 29, 2012 06:18 PM (RdKJU)
Do not fret because of those who are evil, or be envious of those who do wrong; for like the grass they will soon wither, like green plants they will soon die away. Psalm 37: 1-2
Posted by: Miss Marple at June 29, 2012 06:19 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Barack Obama at June 29, 2012 06:19 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 29, 2012 06:19 PM (C8mVl)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at June 29, 2012 06:20 PM (RdKJU)
Posted by: stare decisis at June 29, 2012 06:20 PM (oZfic)
The Democrats think Hispanics are their salvation, but if the Republic does survive by some miracle, they're a demographic time bomb that will blow up in a lot of progressive cause's faces long term.
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 29, 2012 06:20 PM (IViAO)
Healthcare is a "RIGHT"? How the Fu*K can they get there from here?
Doesn't that make health-care providers 'SLAVES'?
To have to provide their services and supplies for free at the behest of the government?
I really don't think we're gonna be able to get that far. The left thinks we are, but they have not thought it through, obviously...
Posted by: ChrisP at June 29, 2012 06:21 PM (626PS)
Because what, the DoJ wants these whistleblowers dead and figures no one will notice when it happens?!
Posted by: BrendaK at June 29, 2012 06:24 PM (iLDpP)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 29, 2012 09:27 PM (bxiXv)------------- At what point, and whom started this surveillance?
Posted by: Prisoner at cellblock H at June 29, 2012 06:24 PM (rZZA3)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at June 29, 2012 06:24 PM (caAEA)
Posted by: stare decisis at June 29, 2012 06:25 PM (oZfic)
Someone's gonna have to take one for the team, right?
People will smarten up and realize they can't get comfortably wealthy in the medical business any more, and medical school applications will plummet. If you can't recover the cost of the education in a reasonable time, its no longer a viable professional choice.
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 29, 2012 06:26 PM (IViAO)
Posted by: Honey Badger at June 29, 2012 06:28 PM (SWev6)
I've been pondering the matter today. My thinking's been along the lines of, "You know those eeeevil insurance companies you hate so much? They now OWN your ass. Obama has given you to them."
I need to think some more.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 29, 2012 06:28 PM (3yCFy)
Two agents dead, and hundreds of Mexicans and the left is still denying its a big deal. I'd say its a 50/50 bet that they can get away with it. A fatal home invasion, a fatal "random" mugging, etc. This administration has demonstrated it has no problem murdering people for purely political reasons.
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 29, 2012 06:30 PM (IViAO)
I love him but it's hard not to strangle him sometimes.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at June 29, 2012 06:31 PM (Asr6U)
Amen,
If it becomes a no-return sweat-shop business, where are the new docs and nurses going to come-from? The DRAFT? I don't fuc*in' think so.
It will be 'interesting' to see how this works out.
Fortunately, I'm old, so I will only have to see the beginning of the end.
I hope my country can come back, but I'm not gonna hold my breath until after the election. Then, we'll see...
Posted by: ChrisP at June 29, 2012 06:31 PM (626PS)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at June 29, 2012 10:24 PM (caAEA)
I'm not giving up on this country...the stupid is wide, but it seems to run pretty shallow. We'll make it through this.
Posted by: model_1066 at June 29, 2012 06:31 PM (PWwbk)
Because I'm thinking anyone hearing that would be fully aware that they needed to be wearing full bomb squad gear over their Kevlar bodysuit at all times.
Posted by: BrendaK at June 29, 2012 06:32 PM (iLDpP)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at June 29, 2012 06:34 PM (jDEYV)
Aren't there laws that protect whistle blowers?
Posted by: stare decisis at June 29, 2012 06:37 PM (oZfic)
WI did the right thing.
CJ Roberts wants to know can the rest of America.
He really is the court of last resort.
Posted by: Admiral akroberts at June 29, 2012 06:38 PM (D7lJF)
It's WAY to early to fade. The party is just getting started. We've lost nothing at this point and people are energized for this fight! The election is not until November and there is a lot of shit in play. The MFM may actually have to report some of this shit. Just keep-on keepin'-on until the election.
After all, "Was it over when the Germans bomber Pearl Harbor? No! It's not over until we say it's over!"
/Bluto
Posted by: ChrisP at June 29, 2012 06:41 PM (626PS)
You can also toss in the fact that on top of the ZeroCare tax increase, Obama has vowed to let the Bush tax rates expire. That means an increase on everybody, right down to the burger-flippers. While is difficult to get a Dem to understand math, sometimes you can get lucky.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at June 29, 2012 06:42 PM (Asr6U)
http://tinyurl.com/7cohdrq
Shacked! I'm shocked, I tell you...
These fucking people have no shame.
Posted by: ChrisP at June 29, 2012 07:11 PM (626PS)
Posted by: ChrisP at June 29, 2012 07:21 PM (626PS)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 29, 2012 07:34 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: stare decisis at June 29, 2012 07:41 PM (oZfic)
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