October 10, 2012
— Ace How did this happen? Where did this come from?
peaking at a NATO conference of defense ministers in Brussels, Panetta said the U.S. has been working with Jordan to monitor chemical and biological weapons sites in Syria and also to help Jordan deal with refugees pouring over the border from Syria. The troops are also building a headquarters for themselves.But the revelation of U.S. military personnel so close to the 19-month-old Syrian conflict suggests an escalation in the U.S. military involvement in the conflict, even as Washington pushes back on any suggestion of a direct intervention in Syria.
Do we no longer debate these decisions? This came out of nowhere (or at least it was never highlighted by the Administration or the press) so I have no instantaneous opinion on the advisability of it.
I do seem to remember a time when troop movements into Theaters of War got a brief national debate, and a formal announcement of the Administration's plan to do so (or consideration of doing so).
Bang. Troops in Jordan. They were kind enough to let us know after-the-fact.
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Posted by: Isaac Davis White at October 10, 2012 12:18 PM (Dll6b)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at October 10, 2012 12:19 PM (i0vBR)
Posted by: real joe hates the vegan in a Prius doing 5 under the speed limit at October 10, 2012 12:19 PM (Q6P9c)
Posted by: JDTAY at October 10, 2012 12:19 PM (a0nis)
Posted by: The Jackhole at October 10, 2012 12:19 PM (nTgAI)
And now we have an alternative Foreign Policy issue to talk about in the VP debate and Prez. Debate #2.
There was no way Obama would go into the Foreign Policy debate with Benghazi the #1 issue. It still is #1, but he'll try to change that.
Posted by: CJ at October 10, 2012 12:19 PM (9KqcB)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 12:20 PM (jUytm)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at October 10, 2012 12:20 PM (i0vBR)
Completely different circumstances. We were attacked you may recall.
Posted by: real joe hates the vegan in a Prius doing 5 under the speed limit at October 10, 2012 12:20 PM (Q6P9c)
Barry wants to be a war president. The wagging of the dog begins.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at October 10, 2012 12:20 PM (baL2B)
Posted by: General Woundwort at October 10, 2012 12:21 PM (06lNq)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 12:21 PM (jUytm)
Posted by: Angrybell at October 10, 2012 12:21 PM (ri6p1)
Posted by: HH at October 10, 2012 12:21 PM (v+ExF)
Good fucking thing we don't have that evil George Bush in the White House anymore.....
Oh, wait......
Posted by: © Sponge at October 10, 2012 12:22 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: dillhole1 at October 10, 2012 12:22 PM (uURnG)
if the media ignores it do the citizens care?
boosh -the war monster. for oil or blood or something.
Posted by: willow at October 10, 2012 12:22 PM (hX8cq)
Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at October 10, 2012 12:22 PM (+I8Mq)
Posted by: real joe hates the vegan in a Prius doing 5 under the speed limit at October 10, 2012 12:23 PM (Q6P9c)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 10, 2012 12:23 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Heralder at October 10, 2012 12:24 PM (+xmn4)
Posted by: The Dog at October 10, 2012 12:24 PM (POGCP)
Posted by: maddogg at October 10, 2012 12:24 PM (w2iaX)
Does Jordan have archdukes? I'd be shakin' like a queer hitchhiking through Shreveport if I was one of 'em right now.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 10, 2012 12:24 PM (oihrP)
Posted by: What does it mean? at October 10, 2012 12:24 PM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 12:24 PM (jUytm)
i've been really concerned with the silence of the left.
i have yet to hear new songs sung ' give peace a chance.'
or 1-2-3 what are we fighting for , don't ask me i don't give a damn?
oh yeah ,whre are all the demonstrations?
Posted by: willow at October 10, 2012 12:25 PM (hX8cq)
(Not the -external- security, I know that's -supposed- to be the host nation. But the normal internal guys.)
Posted by: Al at October 10, 2012 12:25 PM (MzQOZ)
We have no dog in this fight. The Syrian rebels are Alqueda, the regime is Assad. We have no buisness there at all. And piss on McCain for saying we need to be there.
Posted by: Vic at October 10, 2012 12:25 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: M. Murcek at October 10, 2012 12:27 PM (GJUgF)
Posted by: it's real at October 10, 2012 12:27 PM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: i am mad as hell and i am not going to take it anymore at October 10, 2012 12:27 PM (cgxNI)
/yes, I know it's crazy.
Posted by: shibumi at October 10, 2012 12:27 PM (z63Tr)
Great. How many? Enough to be effective? Or just enough to be a target for the bad guys? Are they trained in chemical warfare defense and capable?
If someone had not messed up the Iraq Forces agreement, we could have had a mechanized brigade or two on the Syrian Border. That might have been an effective force to sieze or destroy the Syrian Chemical weapons. Possibly by using artillery and rockets from the border. Or using the same artillery to destroy the Syrian air defenses so the Air Force could do the job.
But no, planning and foresight like that would have been too hard. And Bush was the idiot.
Posted by: rd does not belive the MSM at October 10, 2012 12:27 PM (zLp5I)
Pew: 6% Percent of Atheists and Agnostics Pray Every Day
Posted by: WalrusRex at October 10, 2012 12:27 PM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 12:28 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Barqui Telewoobie McPull-upPants the First at October 10, 2012 12:28 PM (teJLm)
Posted by: willow at October 10, 2012 12:28 PM (hX8cq)
Posted by: General Woundwort at October 10, 2012 12:28 PM (06lNq)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 04:24 PM (jUytm)
^^^
This. Big time.
Posted by: real joe hates the vegan in a Prius doing 5 under the speed limit at October 10, 2012 12:29 PM (Q6P9c)
Posted by: it's real at October 10, 2012 12:29 PM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: AndrewsDad at October 10, 2012 12:29 PM (C2//T)
Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 12:29 PM (6o4Fb)
Even when our dead Ambassador was being dragged through the streets.
Progress! Forward!
Posted by: GnuBreed at October 10, 2012 12:29 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at October 10, 2012 12:29 PM (teJLm)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra impact. at October 10, 2012 12:29 PM (VtjlW)
This story is titled:
"blah blah blah big bird blah blah blah"
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at October 10, 2012 12:30 PM (xAtAj)
The Turks cleaned house -- most of their senior officers who are not Islamists are gone.
I wonder how that will affect readiness and overall quality?
I'll bet it won't be a positive.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 10, 2012 12:30 PM (2b4yb)
Syria: total shithole.
Sudan: total shithole.
Lebanon: total shithole.
Libya: total shithole:
Iraq: total shithole.
Saudi: total shithole;
Iran: total shithole.
Yemen: total shithole.
Jordan: not a total shithole.
U.S. troops in Jordan just might help prevent it from descending into total shitholitude.
Of course Obama couldn't manage a two-man race for a 3-hole outhouse.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 10, 2012 12:30 PM (pFqpP)
Heh. Send him and his crew to the Jordanian-Syrian border
Posted by: Isaac Davis White at October 10, 2012 12:30 PM (Dll6b)
Ever play in a pickup baseball game where an adult or an older boy would pitch the whole game for both sides? Just keep lobbing it over the plate, because the youngsters just weren't as accurate.
We should do that in Syria. Provide artillery support for both sides.
Posted by: fluffy at October 10, 2012 12:30 PM (O6q63)
Posted by: krakatoa at October 10, 2012 12:31 PM (eCtnP)
Posted by: RWC at October 10, 2012 12:31 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 10, 2012 12:31 PM (ovpNn)
Could it be that Jugears McPeacePrize might just get this issue shoved right up his ass...?
Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 10, 2012 12:31 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at October 10, 2012 12:31 PM (xAtAj)
Posted by: Observer at October 10, 2012 12:31 PM (/sohm)
Posted by: mare at October 10, 2012 12:31 PM (A98Xu)
Did anybody tell Hillary yet? Somebody find her, wake her up, feed her some aspirin, and throw her in a cold shower.
If you can't find her, check the gutter behind the Chicken Bone Saloon.
Posted by: wth at October 10, 2012 12:32 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 12:32 PM (jUytm)
40 He got away with Libya, he'll get away with this. Imagine the out cry from the MFM if he were a Republican.
We have no dog in this fight. The Syrian rebels are Alqueda, the regime is Assad. We have no buisness there at all. And piss on McCain for saying we need to be there.
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^This.^
Our military are just pawns for him to use as he sees fit, Vic.
Congressional approval?
He's gotten by without it before.
Just wait....he will probably say that he's doing this, to "protect Israel".
Posted by: wheatie at October 10, 2012 12:32 PM (l5RhJ)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 10, 2012 04:30 PM (pFqpP)
Why isn't congress involved? I don't care if it's a "good idea".
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at October 10, 2012 12:33 PM (xAtAj)
Couple of points folks:
1: We are Jordan--not Syria. This is, to me, kind of a line in the sand they (Syria) do not want to cross.
2. I, as a former military type, have been lots of places that were not, and will never be, public knowledge. Did I need to be there? In retrospect--probably i can answer yes to almost all those situations. Hind sight really is 20-20.
3. I'll take Romney over the current admin any day. His resume actually includes sucess as oppossed to BHO's "hope" resume.
Posted by: rld77 at October 10, 2012 12:33 PM (gObCt)
Posted by: Soona at October 10, 2012 12:33 PM (isjdZ)
Great. How many? Enough to be effective? Or just enough to be a target for the bad guys? Are they trained in chemical warfare defense and capable?
If someone had not messed up the Iraq Forces agreement, we could have had a mechanized brigade or two on the Syrian Border. That might have been an effective force to sieze or destroy the Syrian Chemical weapons. Possibly by using artillery and rockets from the border. Or using the same artillery to destroy the Syrian air defenses so the Air Force could do the job.
But no, planning and foresight like that would have been too hard. And Bush was the idiot.
Posted by: rd does not belive the MSM at October 10, 2012 04:27 PM (zLp5I)
More Importantly, are they allowed to have bullets in their weapons this time?
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 10, 2012 12:33 PM (ovpNn)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 10, 2012 04:30 PM (2b4yb)
Purging the officer corps in 1938 worked so well for me.
Posted by: J Stalin at October 10, 2012 12:33 PM (zLp5I)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 12:33 PM (jUytm)
i'm so proud of my husband He does does a great job 'going around 'congress.
Posted by: willow at October 10, 2012 12:34 PM (hX8cq)
Posted by: t-bird at October 10, 2012 12:34 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 10, 2012 12:34 PM (dq7Ay)
Posted by: it's real at October 10, 2012 12:34 PM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: Paladin at October 10, 2012 12:34 PM (ycm4Q)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 10, 2012 12:34 PM (e0xKF)
Is FOX News website down for anybody else?
Posted by: General Woundwort at October 10, 2012 04:33 PM (06lNq)
nope
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 10, 2012 12:34 PM (ovpNn)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at October 10, 2012 12:35 PM (teJLm)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 12:35 PM (jUytm)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 10, 2012 12:35 PM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 10, 2012 12:35 PM (vjyZP)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 10, 2012 12:36 PM (GFM2b)
If you can't find her, check the gutter behind the Chicken Bone Saloon.
Posted by: wth at October 10, 2012 04:32 PM (wAQA5)
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she called in sick
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Damn three A.M. phone call kept her up all night. It was all she could do to ignore it.
Posted by: WalrusRex at October 10, 2012 12:36 PM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at October 10, 2012 12:36 PM (48wze)
Posted by: tubal at October 10, 2012 12:36 PM (BoE3Z)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra impact. at October 10, 2012 12:37 PM (VtjlW)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 12:37 PM (jUytm)
Overextended.
Overextended.
We heard it a million times from 2004-2009.
Not anymore, though. Evidently our troops magically got over their over-extendedness.
There's now a pill for that.
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We got over it at the same time we drastically cut defense spending. I say, Obama is a miracle worker!
Posted by: WalrusRex at October 10, 2012 12:37 PM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 10, 2012 12:37 PM (8g9qq)
Posted by: NATO Communique at October 10, 2012 12:37 PM (vm7ot)
Under the circumstances it would be inappropriate for me to attend a debate on foreign policy, where I might have to chose the safety of our troops over answering a question.
God bless Amerkia.
Posted by: Polite Barry at October 10, 2012 12:38 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: The Nobel Peace Prize Committee at October 10, 2012 12:38 PM (FcR7P)
Remember that this the man who thinks that the 5 time a call islamic call to terrror is the sweetest sound he ever heard, actively promoted the take-over of four countries by terrorist organizations, and refuses to meet with the leader of the only country with truly free elections in the region.
He is also the man who needed one of his handlers to remind him that his current faith wasn't muslim
Posted by: Mark E at October 10, 2012 12:38 PM (w5RwR)
I hear you. If it's a good idea, or if it's a bad idea, Congress should debate it. Just trying to make the point that Jordan isn't a hopeless case, and if American troops were sent there, with a defined mission and realistic rules of engagement, they might actually accomplish something worthwhile. Like prevent Jordan becoming the next Syria.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 10, 2012 12:38 PM (pFqpP)
it may cost more Americans their lives
Almighty God, deliver us from our idiot President
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 10, 2012 12:38 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 10, 2012 12:38 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 10, 2012 12:39 PM (GFM2b)
That just means Syria goes NBC sooner....
Posted by: richard mcenroe at October 10, 2012 12:39 PM (qvify)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 10, 2012 12:40 PM (ck76k)
Or.. they didn't want to mention anything until Valerie Jarrett found a suitable aspirin factory.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 10, 2012 12:40 PM (f9c2L)
Posted by: BignJames at October 10, 2012 12:40 PM (rlFQ+)
Posted by: Polite Barry at October 10, 2012 12:40 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Beagle at October 10, 2012 12:40 PM (sOtz/)
Copy. The dogs leg is crooked. Repeat. The dogs leg is crooked.
Project Leyline Command: It was you who broke my mason plate.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 10, 2012 12:40 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 10, 2012 12:41 PM (ck76k)
Posted by: richard mcenroe at October 10, 2012 12:41 PM (qvify)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2012 12:41 PM (TMB3S)
Posted by: The littl shyning man at October 10, 2012 12:41 PM (PH+2B)
Posted by: Vogue Editors at October 10, 2012 12:42 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: it's real at October 10, 2012 12:42 PM (LpQbZ)
Last week, two US border patrollers were killed. What did Obama do in response?
Yea, but the MSM said it was friendly fire and was being investigated. All border patrol agents have their firearms test fired so they can tell the I.D.of each spent cartridge. It should not take an investigation to determine this.
These miserable bastards should be made to walk the border.
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at October 10, 2012 12:42 PM (R8hU8)
Posted by: BBC at October 10, 2012 12:42 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Armando at October 10, 2012 12:42 PM (5iuEW)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 12:42 PM (jUytm)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2012 04:41 PM (TMB3S)
The war is lost.
Posted by: Harry "Pederast" Reid at October 10, 2012 12:43 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 10, 2012 12:43 PM (GFM2b)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 10, 2012 12:44 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 10, 2012 12:44 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Average leftist at October 10, 2012 12:44 PM (isjdZ)
Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 10, 2012 12:44 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: I no at October 10, 2012 12:45 PM (imsgK)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 10, 2012 12:45 PM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Jordan (Status: Concerned) at October 10, 2012 12:45 PM (qZXps)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 10, 2012 12:45 PM (vCK/R)
Posted by: Obama the still severly chastised at October 10, 2012 12:45 PM (HZCkA)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 10, 2012 12:46 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Archduke Franz Ferdinand at October 10, 2012 12:46 PM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2012 04:41 PM (TMB3S)
Actually Syria has had a chemical weapons program for a long time. They wanted it so they could destroy the juice.
Posted by: rd does not believe the MSM at October 10, 2012 12:46 PM (zLp5I)
Posted by: it's real at October 10, 2012 12:46 PM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 10, 2012 12:46 PM (f9c2L)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2012 12:47 PM (TMB3S)
Posted by: WalrusRex at October 10, 2012 12:48 PM (Hx5uv)
That's some WTF.
Good thing Sc is far beyond Obama's ability to steal votes.
http://is.gd/WHlekU
Posted by: Vic at October 10, 2012 12:48 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 10, 2012 12:48 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Barky O'Spunk-Guzzler at October 10, 2012 12:48 PM (L7hol)
Posted by: troyriser at October 10, 2012 12:48 PM (vtiE6)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMh9hPGNGKE
Posted by: Othered at October 10, 2012 12:48 PM (EuW9O)
Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 10, 2012 12:49 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Barky O'Spunk-Guzzler at October 10, 2012 04:48 PM (L7hol)
Just lookin' for the Ho Chi Minh Trail!
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 10, 2012 12:49 PM (8sCoq)
No doubt out troops in Jordan will be constrained by the same rules of engagement as in Afghanistan... Can't fire unless fired upon.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at October 10, 2012 12:49 PM (9eDbm)
Posted by: Conventional Wisdom at October 10, 2012 12:49 PM (Dll6b)
I think Obama should start sporting a quasi-military uniform like Gadaffi did.. or fatigues and a beret like Chavez... and I think he should start at the next debates. It would telegraph his new take-no-shit behavior.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 10, 2012 12:50 PM (f9c2L)
Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 10, 2012 12:50 PM (GX2fm)
Posted by: harleycowboy at October 10, 2012 12:50 PM (BGVHF)
Posted by: Deep-voiced guy on PBS' FRontline at October 10, 2012 12:50 PM (jUytm)
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don't even get me started.
Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 10, 2012 12:50 PM (P6QsQ)
good point- it will occur to President Bike Helmet when it's too late
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 10, 2012 12:50 PM (8sCoq)
As I've always said, its not my place to start wars. As a Winner of the Nobel Prize for Peace, and as this country clearly existed before I entered Office,
It is clearly Bush's fault.... yes... I inherited Jordan...
Posted by: Prezzy Skezzy... at October 10, 2012 12:50 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 12:52 PM (jUytm)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 10, 2012 12:52 PM (GFM2b)
The cossacks are supplying Assad with mobile air defense equipment and "trainers." Who knows what trouble the Chinese are up to.
Meanwhile, Poland and the Czech Republic still don't have a missile defense system.
Posted by: 13times at October 10, 2012 12:53 PM (h6XiD)
Breaking! Must be credited. Just received pre-recorded copy of Obama speech to base for when base abandons him - expected any moment.
Caution: Please avoid racist tendency toward "tayloring the inflection," and crap like that.
It's better to close your eyes after hitting play to get the real gist of the speech since this is a practice session where either Gibbs or Axelrod (can't tell which) is reading the speech so Obama can sense the delivery.
Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 12:53 PM (jx2j9)
Posted by: troyriser at October 10, 2012 04:48 PM (vtiE6)
As a Cold Warrior...
Us and them being there may very well calm things down... its like the adults suddenly came home...
But still a bad idea to support a country who does not like us, and put it on the Kids credit card...
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 10, 2012 12:53 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Vic at October 10, 2012 12:54 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Average leftist at October 10, 2012 12:54 PM (isjdZ)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 10, 2012 12:54 PM (1Jaio)
I think it's time for Nancy Pelosi to go back to Syria.
She had a great time when she was there in 2007....made some friends.
She should go back.
It would be a nice trip for her.
Posted by: wheatie at October 10, 2012 12:55 PM (l5RhJ)
Posted by: Admiral Josh Painter at October 10, 2012 12:56 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: harleycowboy at October 10, 2012 12:56 PM (BGVHF)
Once again I have to refer back to Glenn Beck's "Perfect Storm" theory. It's looking more like it every day.
We have to remember that the SCOAMT, no matter what happens in the elections, has the capacity and time to wreak devastation on everything that's American.
Posted by: Soona at October 10, 2012 12:58 PM (isjdZ)
Posted by: brain-dead leftist fucktard (BIRM) at October 10, 2012 12:59 PM (aHR5E)
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 10, 2012 04:55 PM (lZBBB)
The only other place he has actually sent ground troops is Libya. I don't think War Powers applies to air strikes from cruise missiles or drones. .
Posted by: Vic at October 10, 2012 01:02 PM (YdQQY)
Pakistan. (But, that comes under "Completely Justified" IMNSHO).
Posted by: Al at October 10, 2012 01:04 PM (MzQOZ)
Posted by: Vic at October 10, 2012 05:02 PM (YdQQY)
Why not.... isn't that a Cassus Belli Act of war? The bombing of a Sovereign Nation? The Killing of its civilian and military personel?
If you use an Air Strike, you are sending American personel into their Airspace... to kill people... it IS an invasion, although for a very limited time.
As far as I've read, the War Powers Act makes no distinction between Air Power invading, or ground troops invading...
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 10, 2012 01:07 PM (lZBBB)
Us and them being there may very well calm things down... its like the adults suddenly came home...
But still a bad idea to support a country who does not like us, and put it on the Kids credit card...
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 10, 2012 04:53 PM (lZBBB)
As a former 'cold warrior' myself, I don't see the presence of American and Russian troops anywhere near each other--especially the Middle East--as a good thing, much less as a stabilizing infuence. Both Putin and Obama are unbounded narcissists with massive egos bordering on meglomania. Such men are just the type to grossly misread a given situation and make bad decisions under pressure.
My advice? Read Barbara Tuchmann's book, 'The Guns Of August'. Pay particular attention to the role that personalities and personality defects played in the events leading to the cataclysm that was WWI.
Posted by: troyriser at October 10, 2012 01:08 PM (vtiE6)
Posted by: Natasha at October 10, 2012 01:11 PM (pyYXJ)
Posted by: mallfly at October 10, 2012 01:15 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: toby928 beating memes to death since 2006 at October 10, 2012 01:19 PM (QupBk)
Overheard on the way to Jordan (one hopes not): "So who decided to call this operation Resolute Redshirt?"
Posted by: Ken at October 10, 2012 01:25 PM (7yb9x)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 10, 2012 01:25 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: pray for peace at October 10, 2012 01:27 PM (oZfic)
Repeat, "Mares eat oats and does eat oats and little lambs eat ivy."
Copy.
Posted by: NATO Communique at October 10, 2012 01:27 PM (vm7ot)
Posted by: Vic at October 10, 2012 01:33 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, unbanned, ready to get this done at October 10, 2012 01:35 PM (baL2B)
Posted by: logprof at October 10, 2012 01:41 PM (V/U0X)
Posted by: Tommy V at October 10, 2012 01:41 PM (ZYlKz)
Posted by: King Barky at October 10, 2012 01:43 PM (DQHjw)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, unbanned, ready to get this done at October 10, 2012 01:45 PM (baL2B)
Posted by: Retarded Leftist at October 10, 2012 01:45 PM (7Foks)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 10, 2012 01:47 PM (X3lox)
I know he spent some time with Kerry, but did he really have to create his own Cambodia?
This has the potential get out of control fast.
Posted by: krakatoa at October 10, 2012 04:31 PM (eCtnP)
Does anybody remember when all the SDS cocksuckers went batshit crazy when Nixon sent troops into Cambodia? Where are those fuckheads now? Time to "take it to the streets" with your fat boilers and skullets, hippie scumbuckets. Where's Billy Bombthrower?
Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at October 10, 2012 02:21 PM (+4I8+)
Posted by: luagha at October 10, 2012 02:43 PM (7Jg/P)
Posted by: Harrison J. Bounel at October 10, 2012 02:53 PM (WMeMr)
The invasion of Granada during Reagan's term was a total surpise. Wake up in the morning, fix a cup of coffee, and then BAM! I was watching the invasion of Granada on TV.
Totally out of the blue.
Posted by: Speller at October 10, 2012 03:06 PM (J74Py)
Posted by: Pastorius at October 10, 2012 04:20 PM (r2evj)
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Posted by: Baldy at October 10, 2012 06:15 PM (opS9C)
Nobody is legally forcing the Jordanians to integrate, assimilate and intermarry with the unwanted Syrians, but the American government does force White Americans to integrate, assimilate, and ultimately, inevitably intermarry with the Mexicans.
Why does the American army guard the Joranian border and not the American border? Because the government and the governing class, including the liberal mass media, is anti-White. Brown(ish) people have problems; the American government must do something (even if it's actually not good for America to be involved. White people have the same problem; damn crackas have it coming. That is how people like Eric "my people" Holder think.
This anti-White governing consensus is a serious problem. People should take it on and refuse to be intimidated by "anti-racists" who in reality are anti-White.
Posted by: Daybreaker at October 10, 2012 07:39 PM (Y2u5k)
Posted by: SGT Dan at October 10, 2012 08:34 PM (jWvfJ)
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Posted by: JDTAY at October 10, 2012 12:18 PM (a0nis)