June 22, 2012
— Dave in Texas One of those verdicts where nobody is surprised
What a monster.
442 years on 45 counts.
*correction* He hasn't been sentenced, he faces that.
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Posted by: Count de Monet at June 22, 2012 06:21 PM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Grover's Improved No. 5 at June 22, 2012 06:22 PM (B2VwH)
Pig.
Posted by: antisocialist at June 22, 2012 06:22 PM (j/nZn)
Posted by: Ma Bell at June 22, 2012 06:22 PM (uVuwp)
Posted by: Old grizzled gym coach at June 22, 2012 06:23 PM (QBQcg)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 22, 2012 06:23 PM (B9nls)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 22, 2012 06:24 PM (Dnbau)
I will bet a lot of other people are arrested pretty soon.
Posted by: Miss Marple at June 22, 2012 06:24 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: BurtTC at June 22, 2012 06:24 PM (2pG7H)
Posted by: mallfly at June 22, 2012 06:24 PM (NI3M5)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 22, 2012 06:25 PM (Dnbau)
They work at camps and charities and as big brothers and school counselors and teachers. Anywhere they can get access
****
Precisely! That mother-f***er opened a charity and put on the face of a fine citizen, guiding youth through troubled times....
This was not a crime of passion. Not a crime of opportunity. This was a crime which involved repeated and long-term scheming and lying and intimidating and manipulating....
He was a predator and there's no way in hell others didn't have access to those children.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 22, 2012 06:26 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 22, 2012 06:27 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Tami at June 22, 2012 06:29 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: rabidfox at June 22, 2012 06:29 PM (pdWaY)
Posted by: Old grizzled gym coach at June 22, 2012 06:30 PM (QBQcg)
Posted by: Jim in Virginia at June 22, 2012 06:32 PM (RY3us)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 22, 2012 06:32 PM (Dnbau)
17: "This was a crime which involved repeated and long-term scheming and lying and intimidating and manipulating."
Just remember, as he told Bob Costas, he didn't have sex with every young person he helped out..
Posted by: Jim in Virginia at June 22, 2012 06:34 PM (RY3us)
Posted by: Ma Bell at June 22, 2012 06:35 PM (uVuwp)
Posted by: Miss Marple at June 22, 2012 06:35 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 22, 2012 06:36 PM (Dnbau)
I normally think rape in prison is a horrific thing. The state has the right to punish people, but people should be able to do their time without fearing that sort of violation. Don't know if it's true, but I read once where more men are raped than women, if you count what happens in prison. However, since we're unwilling to give Sandusky the punishment he deserves, I'm not going to trouble myself too much over what happens to him.
Posted by: Palandine at June 22, 2012 06:36 PM (g7D8V)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 22, 2012 06:37 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Old grizzled gym coach at June 22, 2012 06:37 PM (QBQcg)
Posted by: tired at June 22, 2012 06:38 PM (Rrnxg)
Posted by: Tami at June 22, 2012 06:38 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 22, 2012 06:38 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Peaches at June 22, 2012 06:39 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: moki at June 22, 2012 06:41 PM (dZmFh)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 22, 2012 06:41 PM (Dnbau)
All over the country, folks must be taking their Penn State diplomas off their office walls.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 22, 2012 06:42 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Ma Bell at June 22, 2012 06:42 PM (uVuwp)
Posted by: doo'n fine at June 22, 2012 06:42 PM (zZTKR)
***
See? They find each other.
Ever see South Park's Super Adventure Club episode?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 22, 2012 06:42 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Palandine at June 22, 2012 10:36 PM (g7D8V)
I agree with that - unless the person is in prison for a sexual crime. In those cases, I could give two shits what happens to them.
My grandpa was a prison guard and he had some horror stories to tell about how the new guys would be 'chosen'.
My feeling is that he'll be put in solitary or some other protected area because of his age and notoriety. Everyone knows what happens to pedos in prison. You can kill your own mother and be cool, but you mess with a kid and you're target #1.
Posted by: tdpwells at June 22, 2012 06:43 PM (7vA7k)
Posted by: Ma Bell at June 22, 2012 10:42 PM (uVuwp)
Billable hours, it's like the bible to them.
Posted by: Peaches at June 22, 2012 06:43 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: Dang at June 22, 2012 06:43 PM (Ky1+e)
Posted by: Jim in Virginia at June 22, 2012 06:44 PM (RY3us)
Posted by: Andy at June 22, 2012 06:45 PM (9yau1)
Posted by: Dang at June 22, 2012 06:45 PM (Ky1+e)
Posted by: Ma Bell at June 22, 2012 06:45 PM (uVuwp)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 22, 2012 06:46 PM (Dnbau)
Shows you what UPenns priorities are...
Posted by: ChrisP at June 22, 2012 06:47 PM (626PS)
Shows you what UPenns priorities are...
Posted by: ChrisP
Fucking vermin.
Posted by: Dang at June 22, 2012 06:47 PM (Ky1+e)
Posted by: Jean at June 22, 2012 06:47 PM (a9Izx)
Posted by: tdpwells at June 22, 2012 06:47 PM (7vA7k)
Posted by: Tami at June 22, 2012 06:47 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Bru at June 22, 2012 06:48 PM (UIkU9)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 22, 2012 06:50 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: the morning coffee crew at June 22, 2012 06:50 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: steevy at June 22, 2012 06:52 PM (Xb3hu)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 22, 2012 06:53 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Peaches at June 22, 2012 06:53 PM (kpCLl)
Or, she could have turned a blind eye to all because of wanting to keep her lifestyle. In that case, she should be in jail as well.
Posted by: Miss Marple at June 22, 2012 06:53 PM (GoIUi)
****
It could be a case of turning a blind eye or one of someone so incredibly naive that her brain wouldn't even go there.
Married for decades, she has spent her last night sleeping next to her husband and, after the scene in court today, she has now heard details to which she wasn't privy before. She won't sleep for a long, long time.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 22, 2012 06:53 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at June 22, 2012 06:54 PM (bMLFV)
Posted by: Jean at June 22, 2012 06:55 PM (a9Izx)
Posted by: JPS at June 22, 2012 06:56 PM (TjDhc)
Posted by: Prison Utensil Nazi at June 22, 2012 06:56 PM (QjSgY)
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at June 22, 2012 06:56 PM (bMLFV)
Posted by: Old grizzled gym coach at June 22, 2012 06:57 PM (QBQcg)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 22, 2012 06:57 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Tami at June 22, 2012 06:58 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at June 22, 2012 06:59 PM (bMLFV)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 22, 2012 07:00 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: someone at June 22, 2012 07:00 PM (bqjJT)
Posted by: moki at June 22, 2012 10:41 PM (dZmFh)
***********
FIFY
Posted by: Boomer Redneque, Threadslayer at June 22, 2012 07:01 PM (eQnzo)
Posted by: Jean at June 22, 2012 07:01 PM (a9Izx)
Posted by: steevy at June 22, 2012 07:01 PM (Xb3hu)
because a cult of personality is more important than the profound suffering of children
****
Someone needs to turn a camera on him!
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 22, 2012 07:01 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 22, 2012 07:02 PM (Dnbau)
There is never actual "justice." A little bit of retaliation if they are convicted but I can't imagine it makes much of a difference when your life has been coopted and fucked up like that.
Posted by: Peaches at June 22, 2012 07:02 PM (kpCLl)
I would add that in some cases, these pedos are masters of manipulation and pick their spouses accordingly. That may be the case here with her. It's a sick instinct that people like Sandusky have.
Not saying she deserves sympathy, but in the beginning of their marriage, she was probably just another victim for him to groom. After she first became aware of what he was, though, the responsibility is on her. It's like a wife who gets beaten - first time is his fault, second time is yours for being stupid enough to stay.
Posted by: tdpwells at June 22, 2012 07:03 PM (7vA7k)
Posted by: Jean at June 22, 2012 07:05 PM (a9Izx)
I beg to differ. I've been in abusive relationships. If, instead of being smacked in the face, I'd been aware that the asshole was down in the basement abusing some child, there wouldn't have been one second's hesitation on my part. It would have been the phone calling 911 in one hand and a carving knife in the other. Children are everyone's responsibility. It's just a whole different kind of sick.
Posted by: Peaches at June 22, 2012 07:06 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 22, 2012 07:07 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: the morning coffee crew at June 22, 2012 07:08 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 22, 2012 07:08 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 22, 2012 07:09 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Jean at June 22, 2012 07:13 PM (a9Izx)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 22, 2012 07:21 PM (K/nKd)
****
I've been screaming that question from the rooftops.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 22, 2012 07:22 PM (piMMO)
I pray all those kids find peace. Horrific things have happened in their lives, but I hope that they can get beyond that.
These children are good people that were let down by those that should have protected them. May the Lord grant them peace and a good life.
Posted by: rd at June 22, 2012 07:24 PM (9sUlj)
>>kids that survive this sort of thing blame themselves, are ashamed, don't trust others, question their sexuality<<
"Good God. Am I a ... Democrat? OK, so I like show tunes ..."
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 22, 2012 07:24 PM (K/nKd)
I wasn't comparing her to a beaten wife in that way. Obviously it's worse than that because children are naturally more defenseless - but the responsibility was still on her if she even doubted him for a second to fucking well do something about it. Men who abuse in any way shape or form seem to know instinctively how to target a particular person, or who can eventually be overpowered (emotionally, physically, etc), and that includes partners. We've all got our psychological weak spots. There's a reason pedophiles pick certain kids over others. I read enough case files when I worked for children's services. I'm betting that if a psych eval is done on her, there won't be much in it that surprises me.
I don't understand why there would be any hesitation on your part when it was you and you alone. It's something I've never been able to wrap my head around. I just hope you never find yourself in that kind of relationship again.
Posted by: tdpwells at June 22, 2012 07:26 PM (7vA7k)
>>Just remember, as he told Bob Costas, he didn't have sex with every young person he helped out..<<
He missed a few? What a standup guy.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 22, 2012 07:27 PM (K/nKd)
Posted by: Ombudsman at June 22, 2012 07:27 PM (AxHOT)
Posted by: Clemenza at June 22, 2012 07:27 PM (qA9lG)
Posted by: Tjexcite at June 22, 2012 07:34 PM (AsD76)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 22, 2012 07:45 PM (r4wIV)
Now, get the three in the coverup -- Curley, Schultz and Spanier.
They were the three with the real power to do something. (Remember, at the time of the McQueary incident, Sandusky was retired from coaching. Also, Paterno was the one who got Sandusky's keys pulled from the football building. Spanier was the one who allowed him to remain on campus.)
There's a long, long story in the Paterno-Sandusky relationship... and it wasn't a buddy-buddy thing by any means.
Posted by: bob at June 22, 2012 07:53 PM (yN6xf)
Her saying that the family is going to Disneyland during all this tells me she might be in denial/shock.
With regard to Dottie Sandusky, the bigger question in my mind is what kind of mother was she that her son couldn't confide in her? Or, did he choose to carry the burden alone.
Hearing his tale will tell us a lot about her involvement.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 22, 2012 07:54 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Jim Sonweed at June 22, 2012 09:16 PM (pJbuO)
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Though I'm sure you would repeatedly insist that your damage is not brained, Sandusky wasn't charged with "feeling up" boys. Here are the counts:
Victim 1
GUILTY 1. Involuntary deviate sexual intercourse
GUILTY 2. Involuntary deviate sexual intercourse
GUILTY 3. Indecent assault (felony)
GUILTY 4. Unlawful contact with a minor (1st degree)
GUILTY 5. Corruption of minors
GUILTY 6. Endangering welfare of children (felony)
Victim 2
NOT GUILTY 7. Involuntary deviate sexual intercourse
GUILTY 8. Indecent assault (2nd degree misdemeanor)
GUILTY 9. Unlawful contact with a minor (1st degree)
GUILTY 10. Corruption of minors
GUILTY 11. Endangering the welfare of a child (misdemeanor)
Victim 3
GUILTY 12. Indecent assault (2nd degree misdemeanor)
GUILTY 13. Unlawful contact with a minor (3rd degree)
GUILTY 14. Corruption of minors
GUILTY 15. Endangering the welfare of a child (felony)
Victim 4
DISMISSED 16. Involuntary deviate sexual intercourse
GUILTY 17. Involuntary deviate sexual intercourse
DISMISSED 18. Involuntary deviate sexual intercourse
DISMISSED 19. Aggravated indecent assault
GUILTY 20. Indecent assault (2nd degree misdemeanor)
GUILTY 21. Unlawful contact with a minor (1st degree)
GUILTY 22. Corruption of minors
GUILTY 23. Endangering the welfare of a child (felony)
Victim 5
NOT GUILTY 24. Indecent assault (1st degree misdemeanor)
GUILTY 25. Unlawful contact with a minor (3rd degree)
GUILTY 26. Corruption of minors
GUILTY 27. Endangering welfare of a child (felony)
Victim 6
NOT GUILTY 28. Indecent assault (1st degree misdemeanor)
GUILTY 29. Unlawful contact with a minor (3rd degree)
GUILTY 30. Corruption of minors
GUILTY 31. Endangering the welfare of a child (misdemeanor)
Victim 7
GUILTY 32. Criminal attempt to commit indecent assault
WITHDRAWN 33. Unlawful contact with a minors (3rd degree)
GUILTY 34. Corruption of minors
GUILTY 35. Endangering the welfare of a child (misdemeanor)
Victim 8
GUILTY 36. Involuntary deviate sexual intercourse
GUILTY 37. Indecent assault (2nd degree misdemeanor)
GUILTY 38. Unlawful contact with a minor (1st degree)
GUILTY 39. Corruption of minors
GUILTY 40. Endangering the welfare of a child (misdemeanor)
Victim 9
GUILTY 41. Involuntary deviate sexual intercourse
GUILTY 42: Involuntary deviate sexual intercourse
GUILTY 43. Indecent assault (felony)
GUILTY 44. Unlawful contact with a minor (1st degree)
GUILTY 45. Corruption of minors
GUILTY 46. Endangering the welfare of a child (felony)
Victim 10
GUILTY 47. Involuntary deviate sexual intercourseGUILTY 48. Involuntary deviate sexual intercourse
GUILTY 49. Indecent assault (misdemeanor)
GUILTY 50. Unlawful contact with a minor (1st degree)
GUILTY 51. Corruption of minors
GUILTY 52. Endangering the welfare of a child (felony
Got that? "Involuntary deviate sexual intercourse".
You must be either an idiot or a sex perv yourself.
Posted by: Jim Sonweed at June 22, 2012 09:23 PM (pJbuO)
The city of Sandusky , Ohio.
And their sister city, Intercourse, PA.
Posted by: Jim Sonweed at June 22, 2012 09:26 PM (pJbuO)
Use your imagination. No matter what you end up picking, it aint pretty.
Posted by: Alan Grayson at June 22, 2012 09:33 PM (BTJa6)
Posted by: Baldy at June 22, 2012 09:39 PM (Sq55P)
The guy's a scumbag, and he should pay for his crimes, but... where's the perspective here? I mean seriously.
I just don't get this idea that rape doesn't have a death sentence to begin with but come on... we let people who KILL out on the streets again, but this guy gets an elf's lifetime in prison? In other words: why does murder not get more punishment than it does? See you're reading me as saying "this is no big deal" when I'm saying "this is ridiculous, why don't we punish killers more?"
I suspect most of the rage against this guy is that he violated the sacred game of football more than anything else.
I also suspect that if it had been a woman people would have been a lot more forgiving which makes me wonder... does the homosexual aspect bother people who would instantly say "not that there's anything wrong with that" in another context.
But don't accuse people of being sexual predators or homosexuals because they question something like this. That's not just insulting but you'd get one in the teeth if I were there in real life.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 22, 2012 10:16 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Perez Hilton at June 22, 2012 10:45 PM (u2SdM)
Christopher Taylor, I would suspect most of the rage against Sandusky is because he violated the bodies of little boys. Good God.
And you think, what, a woman who had molested a dozen little boys would be "better" thought of because there'd be no "homosexual aspect"? Good God. I don't understand your train of thought. And I don't want to, either.
Posted by: Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK at June 22, 2012 10:59 PM (SmOV4)
Posted by: Baldy at June 23, 2012 12:12 AM (Sq55P)
You're unfamiliar with the cult. Spend some time, as much as you can bear, at the Shittany Lyins Scout site and read all the posts claiming that all this should be put behind now and the only person responsible for staining the integrity of the football program has been dealt with and now let's get Saint JoePa back to his lofty perch after this unfortunate minor setback. They feel no sense of shame that the entire program was used to facilitate this and the civil suits that are sure to come at people who willfully turned a blind eye to this will keep this embarrassment alive for years. They're aided by a few high profile shitstains like Dick Vitale who buys into this garbage. It's a sick fucking bunch.
Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny solidarity) at June 23, 2012 02:48 AM (0tBiP)
http://tinyurl.com/78ea7yf
That's one article, WND has pages: "The big list: Female teachers with students Most comprehensive account on Internet of women predators on campus" http://tinyurl.com/87urzoq
But look at the PA woman. That's one student, "5 to 10 years in state prison"
Seems PA is pretty consistent in their response
Posted by: horrified at June 23, 2012 03:39 AM (oZfic)
So tell me Christopher Taylor, after reading the list of 'guilty as charged' counts, what would be an appropiate sentence for this piece of sh*t. You come off as someone who would be OK with his eventual release.
Posted by: Sock On...Sock Off at June 23, 2012 04:03 AM (d+eeq)
Posted by: Sock On...Sock Off at June 23, 2012 04:05 AM (d+eeq)
Posted by: VADM Cuthbert Lord Collingwood (Mentioned in Dispatches) at June 23, 2012 04:09 AM (Uh+y6)
@132 -
Every swinging dick in the PSU football program didn't know, but enough who had the power to do something did.
When the grand jury delivered its report last November, a trickle of stories began to flow in and around Pennsylvania. From one end of this state to the other, we all know people who are somehow connected to Happy Valley. As more details emerged, and the outrage grew, the trickle became a flood. We were discussing among friends, and someone of recent acquaintance said with authority: "They all knew". We started to question how he could say that definitively.
He said a family member of his was a Graduate Assistant at the same time McQueary was. The Monday morning after the infamous shower incident, he showed up at school and informed fellow GAs. They were all disturbed, and when they had their weekly staff meeting, took it up with their coaches. The coaches told them not to worry, it was being "taken care of".
PSU football players began to speak publicly about how they were never comfortable with Sandusky's interaction with his young companions, one specifically stated he felt Sandusky was violating the child's boundaries - and this was behavior that was being witnessed in public. From what I've learned after the GJ report published, Sandusky's little boy prediliction was an open secret around the football program.
Posted by: kallisto at June 23, 2012 05:57 AM (jm/9g)
The fact that our society is too limp wristed to execute people like this is a disgrace. All such vermin should be taken out and shot. We would finally see justice done, there WOULD be deterence, and we could clear plenty of jail space.
HOWEVER - I'll also say this. Those who get other people falsely convicted - like the psycholgists/psychiatrists who plant false memories in kids' heads, should ALSO be put to death. There have been innocent people convicted through sheer trickery. Even the accusation is enough to ruin a person's life, even if they are proven innocent. To be falsely convicted, even with our current lax penalities, is a life wrecker.
Posted by: Reactionary at June 23, 2012 06:25 AM (jfeoD)
@NDH:
There was a report right after the GJ report came down that Second Mile was being investigated as a vehicle by which boys were procured for high dollar PSU donors. Corbett was questioned about that at his first presser after the report released, he begged off that question.
When his office - as AG - began to investigate Sandusky in 2009 it was the result of one brave mother who would not take no for an answer. A Clinton County mother of a high schooler took her Sandusky complaint to the school admin, who essentially told her to take a hike. She went to County Child Protection, who is in the business of exposing these incidents, not hiding them. Clinton County DA passed the hot potato on to State AG Corbett, citing a "conflict of interest".
So the AG team begins to investigate Second Mile, and discovers that travel and expense records from 2000-2003 have gone missing. The Centre County DA, Ray Gricar, who first received a Sandusky complaint in 1998, went missing in 2005, his computer hard drive later found in pieces. It was so water damaged no information could be retrieved from it.
Did Gricar have damaging info on Second Mile...was he using it as leverage? Too many questions still remain around this scandal and travesty of failure to protect vulnerable children.
I remember one evening as this all was going down, listening to local talk radio. A caller described how his brother - a PSU alum - contributed so much money to Second Mile that he got to have private dinners with Jerry Sandusky. Things that make you go hmmmm....
Posted by: kallisto at June 23, 2012 06:28 AM (jm/9g)
Posted by: Infidelswine at June 23, 2012 06:42 AM (09r+Y)
Posted by: Reactionary at June 23, 2012 10:25 AM (jfeoD)
I assume you're talking about, at least in part, the Amirault family who ran a daycare center in Assachusetts and were railroaded by the recovered memory shitheads even though there was no physical evidence that anything had happened. Dorothy Rabinowitz made her bones reporting on that travesty and Scottie Centerfold's old opponent, Choadley, was cowardly in dealing with that. The real shitbag in that was Scott Harshberger who should be a cellmate of Sandusky.
Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny solidarity) at June 23, 2012 07:04 AM (Yl6PH)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 23, 2012 07:14 AM (Dnbau)
to the comments that wondered about Dottie Sandusky's knowledge:
The GJ report detailed victim testimony about how JS used to pay nocturnal visits to the basement bedroom he had set up for his child guests. This was a repeat pattern. What wife, upon discovering her husband absent from the marital bed, doesn't wonder where he is...time after time after time, especially when the Second Mile boys come to visit?
Draw your own conclusions.
Posted by: kallisto at June 23, 2012 07:23 AM (jm/9g)
While someone was putting a microphone on Jerry Sandusky's defense attorney, Joe Amendola, for an interview with CNN, the attorney cracked a joke: "We're going to get you hooked up here, Joe," the CNN staffer says; "With who? Somebody cute?" Amendola says. http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2012/06/jerry_sanduskys_lawyer_asks_ab.html
Posted by: Baldy at June 23, 2012 07:26 AM (opS9C)
@138 -
Second Mile booked time at a camp in Berks County. As the details of Sandusky's perversion emerged, the camp owner reported questionable activity on the part of Second Mile counselors. They required that all shower curtains be removed prior to their stay (with their charges, Second Mile children). And their nighttime entertainment included cross-dressing plays. First it was just the adults who dressed as women, but in subsequent years they encouraged the boys to dress as females.
There is so much more to this Sandusky saga that has yet to be uncovered.
Posted by: kallisto at June 23, 2012 07:36 AM (jm/9g)
Talk to your kids. This really can happen anywhere, but it is harder to do when parents are frank with their kids and are paying attention.
The best, most time tested way to stop this sort of depravity is an involved father. There is a reason these monsters look for kids without fathers.
Posted by: Thunderb at June 23, 2012 11:14 AM (Dnbau)
Funny, I called my dad this morning to thank him for being the kind of dad that you are. He said to me "I'm a big guy, they'd all see me with you kids all the time, no one wanted to mess with me". I laughed but it was so true.
When any of us served mass, either mom or dad went into the sacristy ostensibly to help us put on our altar server garb. I remember one time the priest told my mother "ok, they're dressed now, you should leave" and my mother remained. By the third time he said that she said "oh yeah I'll leave when you guys are out on the altar". He said "no I think you should leave now" so she said "ok, come on guys I'll walk you down to the front of the church and we'll wait for Father". He said "no, leave them and just go out and sit down"....and then my mom this petite woman said "no Father, I'm not leaving until you are all on the altar"....so he said "what is your problem" and she said "I'm here to protect you as much as I'm here to protect the kids"....At the end of mass he screamed at my sister about something but none of the priests ever questioned my mom again. But I thank God she was thinking cause soon after all the problems began to filter down to the congregations...
Posted by: horrified at June 23, 2012 08:03 AM (oZfic)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at June 23, 2012 11:00 AM (i330i)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at June 23, 2012 04:43 PM (So89d)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 22, 2012 11:45 PM (r4wIV)
No, there is no damn excuse for a vile, evil shit stain such as yourself. ESAD
Posted by: sablegsd at June 23, 2012 06:06 PM (AKS75)
Posted by: francis at June 23, 2012 10:23 PM (rCMaG)
@143 -
Drama queens gonna be dramatic.
Thanks for another one of your forays into fantasy-land, "curious".
Posted by: kallisto at June 25, 2012 05:00 AM (jm/9g)
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