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December 11, 2012

Jimmy Hoffa: We're Going To Have a "Civil War" in Michigan
— Ace

In that case I would advise conservatives -- don't retreat, reload.

Jimmy Hoffa, president of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, said Tuesday he expects Michigan unions and lawmakers to break out into "civil war" after the state legislature passed right-to-work bills that would weaken unions' power.
"This is just the first round of a battle that's going to divide this state. We're going to have a civil war," Hoffa said on CNN's "Newsroom."

As Usual, The Media's and Democrats' Civility Police Are In The Donut Shop When They Have an Opportunity To Police Their Own Side: Actual violence won't even make the news tonight.

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1 Giddyeeup!

Posted by: beach at December 11, 2012 01:05 PM (LpQbZ)

2 Foist?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 11, 2012 01:06 PM (yiIja)

Nope.

Shazbot!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 11, 2012 01:06 PM (yiIja)

4 You're gonna need a bigger boat ...

Posted by: Chief Brody at December 11, 2012 01:06 PM (gh+mp)

5 Hoffa? Hoffa? Hum? Seem to remember a Hoffa who is sleeping with the fishes? Would sure be a shame if anything happened to the son ha?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 11, 2012 01:06 PM (79ueO)

6 Remember when using the word "target" was a conservative bad. And, it meant soliciting violence?

Posted by: beach at December 11, 2012 01:07 PM (LpQbZ)

7 Yes, but it is the Tea Partiers who are violent.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 11, 2012 01:07 PM (q2JCn)

8 Then we should taunt them.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 11, 2012 01:07 PM (jUytm)

9 You know who understands? Jimmy Hoffa Sr.

Posted by: jb at December 11, 2012 01:07 PM (/Lgvy)

10 This divisive language is worrisome.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 11, 2012 01:08 PM (QupBk)

Hoffa declares civil war. Since he said it first, well, I guess we have no choice but to defend ourselves then.

Right?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 11, 2012 01:08 PM (yiIja)

Damn. Doubling down instead of backing up.

So, how does this affect going forward?

Has it really begun?

Posted by: Who Knows at December 11, 2012 01:08 PM (W+Itt)

13 Sounds good. We'll play by our side's gun control rules and you can play by yours. Deal?

Posted by: Hedley Lamar at December 11, 2012 01:08 PM (RdCfV)

14 I thought Hoffa was buried under Giants Stadium or whatever.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2012 01:08 PM (JACEX)

15 This is Part II of the Let It Burn saga. Part I -- create a large peasant class.

Posted by: beach at December 11, 2012 01:08 PM (LpQbZ)

16 "There will be blood"??? A little mood music: http://youtu.be/7KsPZ1f7MDs

Posted by: The Political Hat \m/ at December 11, 2012 01:08 PM (sZTYJ)

17 CYIIIWAR?

Ooh, I kind of like this acronym... can you imagine if it...

Posted by: Mayday at December 11, 2012 01:09 PM (F3s39)

18 Let the games begin.

Posted by: Bane at December 11, 2012 01:09 PM (QupBk)

19 It'll be reported as a mostly peaceful civil war, until the conservatives fight back.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at December 11, 2012 01:09 PM (QxSug)

20 Buy ammo, and train.

Posted by: steveegg at December 11, 2012 01:09 PM (o44nj)

21 OCCUPY... The opposite Meadowlands end zone. What a fucking jerk.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2012 01:09 PM (XkWWK)

22 If the unions don't defend themselves, the Tea Party will put them back into chains. Literally.

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 11, 2012 01:09 PM (xvtYZ)

23 Civil War? Racist!

Posted by: USA at December 11, 2012 01:09 PM (RIg+t)

24 The only way the unions can survive is by force and violence. RICO statutes exist for a reason.

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 11, 2012 01:09 PM (sZTYJ)

25 Jimmy Hoffa is still alive????

Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs are Really SMOD in Disguise at December 11, 2012 01:10 PM (Bk48m)

26 Dana Loesch is organizing donations for a reward for anyone that can identify the goon that gobsmacked Crowder. Also, Crowder is on Twitter challenging the MFM to claim his video was taken our of context.

Oh, and Fuck Jimmy Hoffa.

Posted by: Not and Artist at December 11, 2012 01:10 PM (uRumV)

27 Bob Beckel: "Who cares about (what happened) Steven Crowder!!?" ...On The Five just a minute ago.

Posted by: Ktgreat at December 11, 2012 01:10 PM (XKj1y)

Then we should taunt them.

"Your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries!"

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 11, 2012 01:10 PM (yiIja)

29 No matter what -- the news will report that the Tea Party conservatives shot first.

Posted by: beach at December 11, 2012 01:10 PM (LpQbZ)

30 Hoffa sez if you can't be forced to join a Union it's Civil WAR! Democrats fight to keep their slaves again!

Posted by: DANEgerus at December 11, 2012 01:10 PM (e3/KR)

31 Is Boehner taking notes?

Posted by: Jean at December 11, 2012 01:10 PM (LnQr8)

32 24 The only way the unions can survive is by force and violence. RICO statutes exist for a reason. Posted by: The Political Hat at December 11, 2012 05:09 PM (sZTYJ) The problem is a very large portion of the judiciary, including SCOTUS, is not on our side.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2012 01:10 PM (XkWWK)

33 I'm sure Bush is to blame. You teabagging, teabaggers.

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at December 11, 2012 01:11 PM (niW49)

34 'Miracle in the Meadowlands'. Not the discovery of his dads body in the end-zone as some whacked-out conspiracy theory, but one of the greatest Eagle victories of all time. I suspect it's not gonna work out for the unions, any better then it did for the Giants.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at December 11, 2012 01:11 PM (feFL6)

24 The only way the unions can survive is by force and violence.

Same with Socialism.

Posted by: wheatie at December 11, 2012 01:11 PM (CM59X)

36 Bob Beckel: another Weeble Or, is that Weeblow?

Posted by: beach at December 11, 2012 01:11 PM (LpQbZ)

37 So if I say "civil war" at Tepid Air, will Dough Boy Morrissey ban me?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2012 01:12 PM (XkWWK)

38 We'll play by our side's gun control rules and you can play by yours. Deal?

I'll bet it's tough to be a union member, what with all the cognitive dissonance and all. Most of these guys are probably white gun owners who hate intrusive government and loathe effete little fauxtellectuals like Barry. But still, they've got to support this union because, well, greed.

Posted by: pep at December 11, 2012 01:12 PM (6TB1Z)

39 The new civility. Soon TFG will announce that MI lawmakers acted stupidly, and tell the goons that he's gonna put on his walking shoes and march with them.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 11, 2012 01:12 PM (ccXZP)

40 Bob Beckel: "Who cares about (what happened) Steven Crowder!!?"

...On The Five just a minute ago.

Posted by: Ktgreat at December 11, 2012 05:10 PM (XKj1y)

When they go to commercial Gutfeld should punch him in the face and then tell him he's not allowed to talk about it when they come back from break because "who cares about what happened"?

Posted by: somebody else, not me at December 11, 2012 01:13 PM (nZvGM)

41 They're comin' right for us! *BLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAM*

Posted by: Ned and Jimbo at December 11, 2012 01:13 PM (e0xKF)

42 Bring on the civil war... I am all for red state secession.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at December 11, 2012 01:13 PM (DGIjM)

43 They moved Fort Sumter to Michigan?

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 11, 2012 01:13 PM (BAS5M)

44 Someone get Tom Hagen on the phone. I thought the Corleone Family controlled the rackets and the unions (and they're the best thing to have).

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2012 01:13 PM (XkWWK)

Maybe only in retrospect will it be crystal clear, but it is a pivotal moment.

The takers are pissed and giving a warning loud and clear. Violence is coming. Soon.

Posted by: Who Knows at December 11, 2012 01:14 PM (W+Itt)

46 If only he'd waited until tomorrow, we could have named it the Triple Twelve war, which sounds way cooler than Civil War 2. Don't those union thugs think ahead?

Posted by: Mayday at December 11, 2012 01:14 PM (F3s39)

Wasn't it Jimmy Hoffa Jr. who also screamed that..."We have to take them out!"

He was talking about the Tea Party, iirc.

Keep it up, Hoffa Jr.

You're showing everybody what a thug you are...and it will backfire.

Posted by: wheatie at December 11, 2012 01:14 PM (CM59X)

48 Hahaha...a civil war because you can't get your automatic deductions any more from the paychecks of your drones? Fuck you!

Posted by: EC at December 11, 2012 01:14 PM (GQ8sn)

49 44 Someone get Tom Hagen on the phone. I thought the Corleone Family controlled the rackets and the unions (and they're the best thing to have). --- Are we going to the mattresses already?

Posted by: Pete Clemenza at December 11, 2012 01:14 PM (e0xKF)

50 You know what would have helped unions not get to this point?

Staying out of politics.

Unions are really good for nothing these days. Nothing except funneling money to Democrats.

Generally speaking, you'll take home more money if you are not part of a union (employers pay more because they don't have to work around union work rules, plus you keep the dues) and unless you're that fatass lazy sack of crap that stays in the same job for 30 years, you get screwed over by the union.

I was an unwilling member of the AAUP as a grad student. When negotiation time came around, the union was perfectly happy and content to tell us that the full professors got a 10% increase (!) and the rest of us? Well, they were still negotiating.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 11, 2012 01:15 PM (T0NGe)

51 34 'Miracle in the Meadowlands'. Not the discovery of his dads body in the end-zone as some whacked-out conspiracy theory, but one of the greatest Eagle victories of all time. I suspect it's not gonna work out for the unions, any better then it did for the Giants. Posted by: SchrÃ¶dinger's cat at December 11, 2012 05:11 PM (feFL6) I broke a TV set because of that. Fucking Csonka and Joe Pisarcik. Well, at least they wound up with Phil Simms and Parcells.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2012 01:15 PM (XkWWK)

So.....is THIS what they meant when they said that we all needed to be more "civil" to each other?

I just wanna be sure - I'm taking notes here....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at December 11, 2012 01:15 PM (XjXIN)

53 Â“Flaming Carrot! ThereÂ’s more gangsters than we thought!Â” Â“Then shoot more bullets!Â”

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 11, 2012 01:15 PM (QF8uk)

54 13 Sounds good. We'll play by our side's gun control rules and you can play by yours. Deal? Posted by: Hedley Lamar at December 11, 2012 05:08 PM (RdCfV) What's the earliest thread winner on record?

Posted by: rickl at December 11, 2012 01:16 PM (zoehZ)

55 49 Are we going to the mattresses already? Posted by: Pete Clemenza at December 11, 2012 05:14 PM (e0xKF) Ooh, Hoffa. You won't see him no more...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2012 01:16 PM (XkWWK)

56 All of this pimped up[i/] union anger makes me think there is still a spark of hope in America. They are red-faced angry. Someone is doing something right. Go Michigan.

Posted by: beach at December 11, 2012 01:16 PM (LpQbZ)

57 so, crowder played with matches, he got burned. signed xxoo, tolerant liberal

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at December 11, 2012 01:16 PM (QxSug)

58 oh oh

Posted by: beach at December 11, 2012 01:16 PM (LpQbZ)

59 Fuckin Yankees and all their Wars of Aggression. Typical.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 11, 2012 01:16 PM (/tzTG)

Yeah, this is being "more civil" Teresa.

Watch MSNBC right now. Very informative.

Posted by: Who Knows at December 11, 2012 01:16 PM (W+Itt)

61 55 What's the earliest thread winner on record? Posted by: rickl at December 11, 2012 05:16 PM (zoehZ) I think it's the first time someone wrote "First!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2012 01:16 PM (XkWWK)

62 They hate individual freedom so very much. If this is where the line is drawn I am with the side against Hoffa and his ilk.

Posted by: ALL_IS_LOST at December 11, 2012 01:17 PM (T/L2Z)

63 Bring it, Porker.

Posted by: SurferDoc at December 11, 2012 01:17 PM (6H6FZ)

64 The private unions are now about 7% of the private work force. The public unions are full of teachers, bureaucrats, and assorted layabouts. Not exactly who I'd choose to go into combat with. But, you know, go for it guys.

Posted by: pep at December 11, 2012 01:17 PM (6TB1Z)

65 what's funny is, saw that one video of the geezer union thug who spit on one-time and got beaten up. You see geezer's next move? He looks at camera and starts point at himself like an NFL player trying to get a pass interference flag thrown. This is what our country has become. Perma-victims. Little sisters who try to annoy their bigger brother so that they can then run behind mommy once they get pushed back. that's what the civil war will look like, a bunch of old or fat or old fat fucks pushing the limit until they get punched, and then they start crying to the cameras.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at December 11, 2012 01:17 PM (QxSug)

66

Jimmy Hoffa: We're Going To Have a "Civil War" in Michigan

Hey JJ, First and 10 on your Dad,,,

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 11, 2012 01:17 PM (kdS6q)

67 >> Wasn't it Jimmy Hoffa Jr. who also screamed that..."We have to take them out!" Yup. http://ace.mu.nu/archives/320985.php

Posted by: Andy at December 11, 2012 01:17 PM (C/NnJ)

68 I wish I was there. I'd still be punching that fat old fuck. The time for civility was over when the guy got his finger bit off.

Posted by: Mr Pink at December 11, 2012 01:18 PM (KP82x)

69 They said if I voted for Romney packs of savage thugs would attack innocents. And they were right!

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at December 11, 2012 01:18 PM (0tRzD)

As long as they are civil about this war, I'm fine. Of course I'm also several states away. I'll watch for smoke.

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at December 11, 2012 01:18 PM (1Y+hH)

71 Leave the tooth, take the cannoli.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 11, 2012 01:18 PM (QupBk)

72 64 The private unions are now about 7% of the private work force. The public unions are full of teachers, bureaucrats, and assorted layabouts. Not exactly who I'd choose to go into combat with. But, you know, go for it guys. --- I'd be careful about going at it with cops and firemen. The rest of the unionized work force, though? Not so much.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 11, 2012 01:18 PM (e0xKF)

Oh yeah? Well I double dog dare ya to start a civil war over RTW. Go ahead, ya pussy.

Posted by: Schwartz at December 11, 2012 01:18 PM (BAS5M)

74 Hoffa, " We don't give a shit if the economy is tanking! we don't give a shit if you lost your good job and are now struggling by on a third of your previous check, Don't care if your state tax bill goes up a couple grand a year and you lose your home ,We want what's ours and that's 3 percent increase yearly with bennies , and we'll use IRS to hunt you down like dog"

Posted by: ette channeling SEIU AFL_cio guy at December 11, 2012 01:18 PM (nqBYe)

75 66 Jimmy Hoffa: We're Going To Have a "Civil War" in Michigan Hey JJ, First and 10 on your Dad,,, Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 11, 2012 05:17 PM (kdS6q) From the.... shotgun?!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2012 01:18 PM (XkWWK)

76 New ToneÂ™.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 11, 2012 01:19 PM (/kI1Q)

From the link:

Â“What theyÂ’re doing is basically betraying democracy,Â” he told CNNÂ’s Brooke Baldwin. Â“If thereÂ’s any question here, letÂ’s put it on the ballot and let the people of Michigan decide whatÂ’s good for Michigan.Â”

Heh. According to one of the posts downstream, the legislators attached a spending bill to it, preventing it from going to ballot.

Suck it, Hoffa!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 11, 2012 01:19 PM (yiIja)

78 Most of them are just taking marching orders, and I bet many have no clue why they are even there. Remember, JEF lied the other day, claiming the vote was for taking away negotiating skills versus what it really was, a choice to join a union or not. Many are tools and puppets. Or, being paid. All the same.

Posted by: beach at December 11, 2012 01:19 PM (LpQbZ)

79 I broke a TV set because of that. Hahaha. Your tears, they replenished my soul that day. I must have walked around with a shit-eating grin on my face for a month after that game. There are still -- last time I checked -- about half a dozen YouTube videos of that play. Just how many years later is it? And no, mentioning that to you is not a hate crime.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at December 11, 2012 01:19 PM (feFL6)

80 "This is just the first round of a battle that's going to divide this state. We're going to have a civil war," Hoffa said on CNN's "Newsroom."

MFM headline: Right wing zealots threaten violence against mostly peaceful union

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 11, 2012 01:20 PM (1Jaio)

81 79 Posted by: SchrÃ¶dinger's cat at December 11, 2012 05:19 PM (feFL6) How many Superbowls have the Eagles won since then? (cue Jeopardy theme...)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2012 01:20 PM (XkWWK)

82 Too bad no one in the attorney general's office knows anything about RICO.

Posted by: Dang at December 11, 2012 01:20 PM (R18D0)

67 >> Wasn't it Jimmy Hoffa Jr. who also screamed that..."We have to take them out!"

Yup.

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/320985.php

-----

Thanks, Andy. I thought so.

He's a real piece of work, isn't he.

Posted by: wheatie at December 11, 2012 01:20 PM (CM59X)

84 RICO statutes exist for a reason.
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 11, 2012 05:09 PM (sZTYJ)

The problem is a very large portion of the judiciary, including SCOTUS, is not on our side.

Actually, the legal profession operates in such a way that it should be prosecuted under RICO. When somebody says, "You hate us until you need us," they're almost surely running a racket.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 11, 2012 01:20 PM (T0NGe)

85 Hoffa, "break the tax payers backs! We deserve more stuff.

Posted by: ette at December 11, 2012 01:21 PM (nqBYe)

60. Watch MSNBC right now....

Not enough money in the world..... :-)

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at December 11, 2012 01:21 PM (XjXIN)

87 This people would shit a brick if someone actually stood up to them and used brute force. I say go for it. I'm tired of listening to their BS.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 11, 2012 01:22 PM (BuSM8)

88 Hoffa and the fat fucking rat Trumka.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2012 01:22 PM (XkWWK)

Conceal carry victory in Illinois. For once Judge Posner not being a dick.

http://tinyurl.com/armfjma

Posted by: somebody else, not me at December 11, 2012 01:22 PM (nZvGM)

90 Hoffa being pissed can only be good. I like it when things are clear and simple. Let's see how good he is at war.

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at December 11, 2012 01:22 PM (1Y+hH)

Hoffa and the fat fucking rat Trumka.

Scut Farkus and Grover Dill.

Posted by: Schwartz at December 11, 2012 01:23 PM (BAS5M)

92 Too bad no one in the attorney general's office knows anything about RICO.

---

I think unions are specifically exempted.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 11, 2012 01:23 PM (Hx5uv)

93 so, crowder played with matches, he got burned.

signed

xxoo,
tolerant liberal

BTW, I think Crowder's a pretty fit guy. You could tell he could've taken the chubby union troll with the pornstache but he backed away on purpose to get a video.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 11, 2012 01:24 PM (T0NGe)

94 What a shock that Hoffa wants it on the ballot. He knows the fix would be in. This ain't Wisconsin unions. This is Michigan. Pretty sure Jacques Marquette is a registered Democrat there.

Posted by: Doc at December 11, 2012 01:24 PM (RgWBf)

Is this a threat against a duly-elected public figure? Or a group of duly-elected public figures?

I wonder if there's a law against that?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 11, 2012 01:24 PM (yiIja)

96

No matter what -- the news will report that the Tea Party conservatives shot first. Posted by: beach

If you're going to get convicted, you might as well commit the crime . . .

Posted by: imp at December 11, 2012 01:24 PM (UaxA0)

97 Huh. Of all the places, it starts in effin' Michigan. Honestly did not see that coming.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 11, 2012 01:24 PM (GBXon)

98 How many Superbowls have the Eagles won since then? (cue Jeopardy theme...) [i/] Did you see Sunday? Rookie QB, who should have been in since week one, and let the dog-tired Vick take a breather, throws the winning pass with .00 time on the clock. Does it seem like I'm ignoring the question. No, I wouldn't do that. Hey, kids on my lawn, brb....

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at December 11, 2012 01:24 PM (feFL6)

As Usual, The Media's and Democrats' Civility Police Are In The Donut Shop When They Have an Opportunity To Police Their Own Side: Actual violence won't even make the news tonight.

FoxB covered this story but did not show the violence.

Posted by: Vic at December 11, 2012 01:25 PM (YdQQY)

100 From what I've seen, the cops were at the donut shop too. I guess their union only lets them protect other union members. Funny, I don't recall them asking for a card check when I paid my taxes.

Posted by: no good deed at December 11, 2012 01:25 PM (mjR67)

101 93 Posted by: AmishDude at December 11, 2012 05:24 PM (T0NGe) He definitely is beefy and he was pissed about the tent. I admire his self control.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2012 01:25 PM (XkWWK)

102

Anyone ever notice how certain groups always benefit from favorible editing? Does anyone think that Jimmy F-ing Hoffa actually enunciated "We're going to have a civil war"? Or did he actually say "We're gonna have a civil war"?

Posted by: West at December 11, 2012 01:25 PM (1Rgee)

103 Jimmy Hoffa? Great news, they found him

Posted by: Jollyroger at December 11, 2012 01:25 PM (t06LC)

104 98 Huh. Of all the places, it starts in effin' Michigan. Honestly did not see that coming. --- This country's going to Hell... Michigan. Been a long time coming.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 11, 2012 01:25 PM (e0xKF)

105 So, does me mean literal are rhetorical?

Posted by: liquidflorian at December 11, 2012 01:26 PM (hfTtV)

106 I have to say, I agree with Hoffa that the democratic process used here was less than optimal.

Tell ya what, we'll trade you MI unions for Obamacare. Deal?

Posted by: AmishDude at December 11, 2012 01:26 PM (T0NGe)

107 Interesting test of the right-o-sphere to see if we can ID the goons who attacked Crowder. I'm confident that if I punched out a prominent left-winger on video that my name and address would be all over the web within 24 hours.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 01:27 PM (ZPrif)

108 Posted by: SchrÃ¶dinger's cat at December 11, 2012 05:24 PM (feFL6) Meh. I love cheesesteaks, my oldest friend from childhood lives there and I used to work at a summer camp of mostly overprivileged Philly Jews. :-)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2012 01:27 PM (XkWWK)

109

I want to see the union goofs out with signs reading:

BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT THE UNION!

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at December 11, 2012 01:27 PM (1Y+hH)

110

This will spread. Dear Leader will make sure of that. He's more flexible now.

He'll start shit in the deep red states too. This is how socialist dictators try to get complete control. Civil strife. He and the dems need this. They have the repubs in congress in a state of powerlessness now, so it's time for the rest of the population.

We're living in a lawless nation now.

Posted by: Soona at December 11, 2012 01:28 PM (TYXyJ)

111 Can you imagine if fat fuck Michael (GIMMEE) MOOre would have been punched in one of his stand for the little man "movies"?

Posted by: Bruce at December 11, 2012 01:28 PM (Q6u7O)

112 107 Tell ya what, we'll trade you MI unions for Obamacare. Deal? Posted by: AmishDude at December 11, 2012 05:26 PM (T0NGe) How about this? Nothing. Not one dime. And I'd appreciate it if you pay the licensing fee, Senator Geary.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2012 01:28 PM (XkWWK)

113 According to one of the posts downstream, the legislators attached a spending bill to it, preventing it from going to ballot.

Pure Alinsky. Use their own tricks against them.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 11, 2012 01:28 PM (bodka)

114 Michigan will be the 24th right to work state. The MFM keeps mentioning that right before declaring and end to workers' rights. Hmmm. Does that mean workers have no rights in the other 23 states?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 11, 2012 01:28 PM (HDgX3)

115
If there was a civil war in Detroit, would anybody notice any difference?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 11, 2012 01:29 PM (n/ubI)

116 first we kill all the white people... sorry just some black humor

Posted by: jamie foxx at December 11, 2012 01:29 PM (s+y+T)

117 Hasn't he already lost?

Posted by: Jean at December 11, 2012 01:29 PM (hrAg/)

118 The union doughboys like safety in numbers.

Posted by: Who Knows at December 11, 2012 01:29 PM (W+Itt)

119 And this is why we need our own Media Air Corps.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 11, 2012 01:29 PM (bb5+k)

120 Well, I see one of the thugs is already ID'd over at Gateway Pundit. Good news.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 01:29 PM (ZPrif)

121 isn't he buried in a barrel somewhere ?

Posted by: JeffC at December 11, 2012 01:29 PM (A3tpD)

122 Dumbass union goon had his name on the jacket.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 01:30 PM (ZPrif)

123 114 Pure Alinsky. Use their own tricks against them. Posted by: @PurpAv at December 11, 2012 05:28 PM (bodka) Alinsky... You miserable commie bastard, I READ YOUR BOOOOK!!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2012 01:30 PM (XkWWK)

124

BTW, I think Crowder's a pretty fit guy. You could tell he could've taken the chubby union troll with the pornstache but he backed away on purpose to get a video.

His father recently won a martial arts tournament. Judo?

Posted by: fluffy at December 11, 2012 01:30 PM (4pSIn)

125 Funny how Crowder captured union violence on video in one day in Michigan. But after hundreds of tea party protests, no videos of tea party violence. I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at December 11, 2012 01:30 PM (niW49)

126

Too bad there is not some agency of the Federal Government that would investigate these kinds of interstate threats, that is beyond the scope of a Michigan police force.

You know, like some kind of Federal Bureau, that investigates these sort of inflammatory statements.

And someone in the Federal government, that was a high ranking law officer that might comment on the nature of these kinds of threats.

Too bad.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is Eddie Willers, sure at December 11, 2012 01:30 PM (RFeQD)

127 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2012 05:15 PM (XkWWK)

My wife was at that game with her dad.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2012 01:30 PM (GsoHv)

128 Interesting test of the right-o-sphere to see if we can ID the goons who attacked Crowder.

Give it a day or two...they're stupid. They'll start bragging about it and bust themselves.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 11, 2012 01:30 PM (bodka)

129 I've got 2 more patients and I can hardly see straight.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 11, 2012 01:31 PM (79ueO)

130 Well, I see one of the thugs is already ID'd over at Gateway Pundit. Good news.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 05:29 PM (ZPrif)

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Hahahahahahahaha...... dumbass wore his name on his jacket!!!!

Posted by: fixerupper at December 11, 2012 01:31 PM (nELVU)

131

One of the thugs ID'd. OK.

Will Crowder press charges now?

How do we start the public shaming for the thug?

Posted by: Who Knows at December 11, 2012 01:31 PM (W+Itt)

132 Reuters says 12,000 protesting in MI.

Last year, there were 30,000 people or so protesting in WI.

In MI, there are over half a million union members.

Just saying.

Posted by: shibumi at December 11, 2012 01:31 PM (z63Tr)

133 If we can get our own Media Air Corps, then we will kick their freakin asses in the PR campaign, which is the only place these battles are ever really waged.

As Benjamin Franklin said:

5. Printers are educated in the Belief, that when Men differ in Opinion, both Sides ought equally to have the Advantage of being heard by the Publick; and that when Truth and Error have fair Play, the former is always an overmatch for the latter: Hence they chearfully serve all contending Writers that pay them well, without regarding on which side they are of the Question in Dispute.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 11, 2012 01:31 PM (bb5+k)

134 Does that mean workers have no rights in the other 23 states? --- Hell no. And it doesn't mean there are no unions in RTW states. Per some local message boards, the GM plant in Shreveport, LA, is a union shop because the union publishes the names, addresses, work shifts, etc., of everyone who does not belong to the union but works at the plant. They also scheduled at least one strike a few years back after management fired a guy for getting caught, on camera, pissing into a $10m machine and complained when "uneducated rednecks and cajuns" were hired as scabs during the strike. I don't believe they had any comment when it came out that the scabs' production was far better than that of the union members.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 11, 2012 01:31 PM (e0xKF)

135

So, Obama and all high ranking Democrats will be asked if they denounce Hoffa's violent rhetoric in every interview, right?

Posted by: Warden at December 11, 2012 01:32 PM (HzhBE)

136 132 TONY CUMMINGS IBEW LOCAL 876 GRAND RAPIDS. Paging Spike Lee....

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2012 01:32 PM (XkWWK)

137

One of the thugs ID'd. OK.
Will Crowder press charges now?
How do we start the public shaming for the thug?

Sue the union that he belongs to and arranged for him to be at that rally.

Posted by: Alex at December 11, 2012 01:32 PM (3x3F6)

138 Welcome to this Obamanation!!!!!

It's going to get worse, folks. A LOT worse.

Posted by: Â© Sponge at December 11, 2012 01:32 PM (UK9cE)

139 Remember when every Republican had to weigh in on Rush Limbaugh?

Posted by: Warden at December 11, 2012 01:32 PM (HzhBE)

140 133 Reuters says 12,000 protesting in MI. Last year, there were 30,000 people or so protesting in WI. In MI, there are over half a million union members. Just saying. --- It's December in Michigan. Getting that bunch of fatasses to turn out in cold weather is still fairly impressive, given that many union people are lazy fat fucks. ESPECIALLY the Teamsters under Jimmy Jr.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 11, 2012 01:32 PM (e0xKF)

141 I've got 2 more patients and I can hardly see straight.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 11, 2012 05:31 PM (79ueO)

I schedule all my doctor and dentist appointments in the morning. You guys are a mess by 3:00 PM.

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at December 11, 2012 01:33 PM (1Y+hH)

142

RICO statutes exist for a reason.

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 11, 2012 05:09 PM (sZTYJ)

--------------------------------------------------

Let's see. RICO would be enforced by the DoJ. Good luck with that.

Posted by: Soona at December 11, 2012 01:33 PM (TYXyJ)

143 Michigan will be the 24th right to work state. The MFM keeps mentioning that right before declaring and end to workers' rights. Hmmm. Does that mean workers have no rights in the other 23 states?

Other 33 states. Math is hard.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 11, 2012 01:33 PM (/kI1Q)

144 I wonder if the union goon can be charged with a hate crime as well as assault? May as well use the laws on the books.

Posted by: no good deed at December 11, 2012 01:33 PM (mjR67)

145 See if the GOP were smart, they'd make these goons the face of the Democrats. But they won't, because they are stupid. Which is why I'm no longer a Republican.

Posted by: Warden at December 11, 2012 01:33 PM (HzhBE)

146 Does Crowder have to be the one who sues?

Posted by: Who Knows at December 11, 2012 01:33 PM (W+Itt)

147 I've got 2 more patients and I can hardly see straight.

You'll make a fine vascular surgeon under ObamaCare. Sight is not a requirement, it would be discriminatory.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 11, 2012 01:33 PM (bodka)

148 @98, we were talking about this in the other thread. The guy who swings in him like he's swimming in gravy at :40 mark is clearly a agent provocateur. Only a few of the union thugs are in on the violence. Crowder should have knocked him the fuck out...but in hindsight, sure, it was smart to lose a piece of tooth to avoid being the subject of the right's war on unions segment to air on MSNBC

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at December 11, 2012 01:33 PM (QxSug)

149 Well, it's more a guess based off the jacket. Still a chance it's another dude wearing his jacket. Not likely. Need some pics to confirm.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 01:33 PM (ZPrif)

150 I've got 2 more patients and I can hardly see straight.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 11, 2012 05:31 PM (79ueO)

You a Doc? I always thought you were smarter than the average bear. (You often say exactly what I wanted to say.)

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 11, 2012 01:33 PM (bb5+k)

151 Ah, yes, the ever calming voice of reason from the leftists.

Hmmmm, have they ever found his daddy?

Oh well.

Posted by: tcn at December 11, 2012 01:34 PM (VLG62)

152 Huh. Of all the places, it starts in effin' Michigan. Honestly did not see that coming. Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 11, 2012 05:24 PM (GBXon) Nor did I. Christmas gift come early.

Posted by: beach at December 11, 2012 01:34 PM (LpQbZ)

153

Hoffa and the fat fucking rat Trumka. - J.J. Sefton

Sefton, that right there is some hate speech. Those Union guys are gonna come around to your place and set you straight, see?
Back to the Stalag for you.

Debbie Whatsherface Schlitz is gonna have a strongly worded statement about that. Targeting that kind of speech.

And yes, Trumka is a fat fucking rat bastard of a human being.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is Eddie Willers, sure at December 11, 2012 01:34 PM (RFeQD)

154 Hahahahahahahaha...... dumbass wore his name on his jacket!!!!

No one said they were smart.

Posted by: EC at December 11, 2012 01:34 PM (GQ8sn)

155 Ischedule all my doctor and dentistappointments in the morning. You guys are a mess by 3:00 PM. Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at December 11, 2012 05:33 PM (1Y+hH) You bet your sweet ass we are. I start some days at 6:00AM, and this is when you want to see me. I'm on top of my game then. OK off to see this patient. I hope I find her mouth or else she may get a .......fill in the blank...exam

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 11, 2012 01:35 PM (79ueO)

156 "Does Crowder have to be the one who sues?"

Yes.

Posted by: Knemon at December 11, 2012 01:35 PM (FYaI5)

157 so, on one hand, crowder: was smart to not provoke should have knocked cupcake out was surrounded and did the best he could. I have my opinions but I know I wouldn't have done any better. then again, nothing was gained, the tent got demolished and the popo did nothing.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at December 11, 2012 01:35 PM (QxSug)

158 Montana, Kentucky, and Missouri should be targets for RTW. Maine and NH, too. Kinda stunned Nevada is RTW.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 01:35 PM (ZPrif)

159 This will spread. Dear Leader will make sure of that. He's more flexible now. He'll start shit in the deep red states too. This is how socialist dictators try to get complete control. Civil strife. He and the dems need this.They have the repubs in congress in a state of powerlessness now, so it's time for the rest of the population. We're living in a lawless nation now. Posted by: Soona at December 11, 2012 05:28 PM (TYXyJ) That is why we just need to keep mocking them. Flip them off and be on our way.

Posted by: beach at December 11, 2012 01:35 PM (LpQbZ)

160 Well Looky Here!! Tony "DICK" Cummings was caught embezzling funds: http://lrionline.com/tag/tony-cummings

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2012 01:36 PM (XkWWK)

161 Yeah, the economy is just "taking off" there in Michigan. So, tell me why are they talking about dissolving the Motor City? btw - Hoffa looks kinda portly for someone who has been dead for decades.

Posted by: MWTexas at December 11, 2012 01:36 PM (N05oL)

162 The union is whining about the Freedom to Freeload!!!

Posted by: Jean at December 11, 2012 01:36 PM (hrAg/)

163

We're going to have a civil war," Hoffa said on CNN's "Newsroom."

___

Just another leftard being all intellectual and shit.

Posted by: kallisto at December 11, 2012 01:36 PM (jm/9g)

164 This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.

Posted by: That Guy We Liked Who Took Us On a Ride at December 11, 2012 01:36 PM (zpqa2)

165 Looks kind of like Palestinian protests. If prosecutions occur, I'd anticipate them breaking out the keffiyeh headscarves to avoid recognition.

Posted by: It WILL Burn at December 11, 2012 01:36 PM (QgpEL)

166 See if the GOP were smart, they'd make these goons the face of the Democrats. But they won't, because they are stupid. Which is why I'm no longer a Republican.

Posted by: Warden at December 11, 2012 05:33 PM (HzhBE)

If the GOP owned the media, it would be no problem to make these goons the face of the Democrats. As the Media is completely in control of the Democrats, it's virtually nigh near impossible.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 11, 2012 01:37 PM (bb5+k)

167 Will obama arrest the publisher of the video?

It is slandering the union prophets.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at December 11, 2012 01:37 PM (AWmfW)

168 Wisconsin, Ohio, and Minnesota, too. We should be able to turn the entire midwest RTW. Except for Illinois cause of Chicago.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 01:37 PM (ZPrif)

169 Why do you keep saying I don't know Rico? He's a great poolboy, and if I give him a little extra, he gives me a good fisting.

Posted by: Eric Holder at December 11, 2012 01:37 PM (ggRof)

170 Nevada shows RTW is no big deal. All the casinos full of SEIU.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 11, 2012 01:37 PM (bodka)

171 159 Montana, Kentucky, and Missouri should be targets for RTW. Maine and NH, too. Kinda stunned Nevada is RTW. --- Montana, Kentucky, and Missouri should definitely be targeted, as those seem like they would be amenable to it. NH depends on how much power is in the hands of the legislature vs. the governor, as I'm pretty sure they have a Republican legislature and a Dem governor. Maine, OTOH, is probably a waste of time.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 11, 2012 01:37 PM (e0xKF)

172
EN FUEGO!!!!!!!!

Posted by: The Guy Who Socks the Guy Who Shouts EN FUEGO!!!! at December 11, 2012 01:37 PM (nELVU)

173 Sounds like Jimmy Hoffa has daddy issues.

Posted by: Fritz at December 11, 2012 01:37 PM (ZA675)

174 Forget about RICO for a while.

ERIC. HOLDER.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 11, 2012 01:37 PM (bodka)

175

Kinda stunned Nevada is RTW

So is Massachusetts. Surprising that NH is not.

Posted by: fluffy at December 11, 2012 01:37 PM (4pSIn)

176 so, the slow mo puncher is named tony cummings

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at December 11, 2012 01:38 PM (QxSug)

177 Mass isn't RTW.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 01:38 PM (ZPrif)

178 171 Nevada shows RTW is no big deal. All the casinos full of SEIU. --- I'm fairly certain those casinos have been "organized" since they were being run by a bunch of "good family men" in the Midwest from the days of Ben Siegel up to the early 80s.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 11, 2012 01:38 PM (e0xKF)

179 Jimmy Hoffa: We're Going To Have a "Civil War" in Michigan

Send in Chamberlain and the 20th Maine. Fix Bayonets.

Posted by: LGoPs at December 11, 2012 01:38 PM (4x8W0)

180 Map here of RTW states http://www.nrtw.org/rtws.htm

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 01:38 PM (ZPrif)

181 Crowder should have knocked him the fuck out...but in hindsight, sure, it was smart to lose a piece of tooth to avoid being the subject of the right's war on unions segment to air on MSNBC

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at December 11, 2012 05:33 PM (QxSug)

If Crowder had "knocked him the fuck out", odds are that the ensuing Union riot would have left Crowder in intensive care. Crowder handled it correctly.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 11, 2012 01:39 PM (bb5+k)

182 TONY CUMMINGS IBEW LOCAL 876

GRAND RAPIDS.

Heh. My uncle is a member of the IBEW. He's not a thug like that guy and doesn't really like the unions much, but doesn't have a choice living up there in the land of our lord and savior.

Posted by: Â© Sponge at December 11, 2012 01:39 PM (UK9cE)

183 well, there are state rico laws too. but I would bet that some states have exemplted unions from them. like they have with stalking laws. one benefit of having state controlled legislature and governor by GOP is that this shit can be punished, controlled. but that would require cultural confidence on our part

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at December 11, 2012 01:39 PM (QxSug)

184 Reuters says 12,000 protesting in MI.

Last year, there were 30,000 people or so protesting in WI.

In MI, there are over half a million union members.

Just saying.

Simple, Lansing does have a university, but it's land grant (read: agriculture and engineering-focused and generally less wacko) and although UW is land grant also, it's also the flagship university so it's got all the wussmanities too.

Basically, the protesters in Madison were all hippies from the university. In Lansing, they don't have the same numbers.

Also, it is probably finals week there and there's only so far that the students will go to sacrifice for the working man (who they sneer at for not reading the NYT).

Posted by: AmishDude at December 11, 2012 01:39 PM (T0NGe)

185 101 From what I've seen, the cops were at the donut shop too. I guess their union only lets them protect other union members. Funny, I don't recall them asking for a card check when I paid my taxes.
Posted by: no good deed at December 11, 2012 05:2

Yeah, when the shit hits the fan, I would be very leery of any Union Member in a uniform.
It's a question of who your allegiance lies with. We want to paint them all as noble and selfless, but they are people with self-interest, like everyone else.

Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2012 01:39 PM (BoE3Z)

186 Great-- The Fire Dog Lake version-- Earlier today AFSCME reported that 10,000 people showed up at the state capital in Lansing to protest the passage of MichianÂ’s Â“right to workÂ” law by the Republican dominated state legislature. Why anyone thought it was a good idea to throw up an anti-union tent in the midst of that is anybodyÂ’s guess, but Americans for Prosperity did, and the video above shows it being torn it down. Update: Marcy Wheeler reports that Â“witnesses say the Americans for Prosperity people were trying to provoke union members to violence, and witnesses reportedly saw AFP people loosening the ropes on the tents so they would come down.Â” Update II: Chris Savage from Eclectablog says that Americans for Prosperity tore down their own tent, and promises video soon: ________________ I guess it's going to take a while for them to produce video of Crowder punching himself.

Posted by: tasker at December 11, 2012 01:39 PM (r2PLg)

187 I kind of want to put RTW on a ballot in California, just so people would waste money trying to defeat it. I'm pretty sure it would break 40 maybe 45%.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at December 11, 2012 01:39 PM (NzBQO)

188 Funny thing in Nevada. One of the few non-union casinos is owned by the Fertita Brothers - ie the guys who own UFC. The culinary union harasses the UFC constantly and is the only reason UFC is still banned in New York.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 01:40 PM (ZPrif)

189
Ahhhh.... if conservatives would have had a Wartime Consiglere.

Nice house ya got there Tony. Grand Rapids, is it?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 11, 2012 01:40 PM (n/ubI)

190 184 well, there are state rico laws too. but I would bet that some states have exemplted unions from them. like they have with stalking laws. --- I'm surprised we haven't heard of more cases involving union thugs shadowing management and non-union people being "accidentally" shot by people thinking it was a robbery.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 11, 2012 01:40 PM (e0xKF)

191 Sounds like Jimmy Hoffa has daddy issues. Posted by: Fritz at December 11, 2012 05:37 PM (ZA675) ---------------------------------------------------------- Nothing a few cubic yards of wet cement won't cure.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 11, 2012 01:40 PM (jucos)

192

Tony Cummings and I like to party together. He likes little girls and I like little boys, so there's no fighting over the kids!

Posted by: Harry Reid at December 11, 2012 01:40 PM (ggRof)

193 Where's the Ohio National Guard when you need it?

Posted by: packsoldier at December 11, 2012 01:40 PM (LPsdD)

194 My, my. Methinks a nerve was struck (or is it stricken?). Them goonions are going insane with rage, I say.

Posted by: eureka! LiFBer at December 11, 2012 01:41 PM (HPRku)

195 Well Looky Here!!

Tony "DICK" Cummings was caught embezzling funds:

http://lrionline.com/tag/tony-cummings

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2012 05:36 PM (XkWWK)

He's a Democrat, right? It would be odd if he hadn't done something illegal/unethical.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 11, 2012 01:41 PM (bb5+k)

196 Choom Boy is loving this. He'll step in and give Hoffa and the rest of the union thugs everything they want, pulling out one of his patented Executive Orders to make it right for the unions.

Despite what the "bring. it. on" crowd seems to think, we have nothing to say about this. Nothing. Remember who won the election? He has troops and government drones to spare, and is probably eager to use them.

Get used to the violence and threats. It will not be safe for anyone who isn't fully down with Team Osama Obama.

Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at December 11, 2012 01:41 PM (yKUrR)

197 Be careful about "Tony Cummings". A certain "Tony Cummings" was a union guy, but NOT IBEW, which this guy probably is... based on his Artie Fufkin Silk Baseball Jacket.

Posted by: ChampionCapua at December 11, 2012 01:41 PM (KZi9D)

198

Mass isn't RTW

Then what are we? "At will" is part of the employment language.

Posted by: fluffy at December 11, 2012 01:41 PM (4pSIn)

199 #182, they would have done nothing. Tony Cummings was acting in vanguard. alone. there were maybe 10 violent old fat fucks there. this is all hindsight, I'd have peed my pants, of course, but if the crowd were going to jump in, they'd have jumped in then. The only other guy to be worried about was the guy who grabbed crowder @ 1:00 mark. Not a good view, but he looked tougher. But, for crowder's credit, he seemed pretty pleased with getting it all on tape.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at December 11, 2012 01:41 PM (QxSug)

200 Wisconsin, Ohio, and Minnesota, too.

We should be able to turn the entire midwest RTW. Except for Illinois cause of Chicago.

Won't happen anytime soon in Minnesota.

Our current Dem governor Mark Dayton is a committed union puppet. He vetoed at least one bi-partisan bill because the unions disapproved.

I seriously doubt it would pass a ballot initiative, either.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 11, 2012 01:42 PM (SY2Kh)

201 so, the slow mo puncher is named tony cummings Sounds like a pR0n name. I suspect the difference between the actual pR0n star of that name and the union goon is about six inches. The pR0n star probably beats him by that amount in both height, length, and girth.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at December 11, 2012 01:42 PM (feFL6)

202 Crowder did great. Chipped tooth is enough damage to take. No point ending up in intensive care from a mob attack. Mob attacks are especially bad because of the high likelihood of being hit in the back of the head - which is easily fatal. Wild mob kicks and punches are much worse than one dude hitting you in the face.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 01:42 PM (ZPrif)

203 Wow guy gets punched in the nose and the liberal jews somehow keep it off the evening news

Posted by: occam at December 11, 2012 01:43 PM (4Dspi)

204 If Crowder had "knocked him the fuck out", odds are that the ensuing Union riot would have left Crowder in intensive care. Crowder handled it correctly.

He's gotta get home to his hot wife (why am I the only one who notices her?).

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 11, 2012 01:43 PM (/kI1Q)

205 181 Map here of RTW states http://www.nrtw.org/rtws.htm Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 05:38 PM (ZPrif) You dummie thats a map of the 2012 EC vote.... ooooooohhhhhhhhhhh

Posted by: cajun carrot at December 11, 2012 01:43 PM (UZQM8)

206 Kinda stunned Nevada is RTW.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 05:35 PM (ZPrif)

_________________

You have to remember up until the 2000s when Californians and illegals invaded Nevada, it was a conservative/libertarian state. Today it wouldn't pass. But I also don't think NV has gone so far over to the communist side that there are enough votes to overturn RTW either.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 11, 2012 01:43 PM (HDgX3)

207 Despite what the "bring. it. on" crowd seems to think, we have nothing to say about this. Nothing. Remember who won the election? He has troops and government drones to spare, and is probably eager to use them.

Get used to the violence and threats. It will not be safe for anyone who isn't fully down with Team Osama Obama.

Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at December 11, 2012 05:41 PM (yKUrR)

Well, this could end up being good popcorn entertainment, as we watch the Free Shit Army bump up against the entitled salary-eating unionists and pensioners.

Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2012 01:43 PM (BoE3Z)

208 Gawd the people at Fire Dog Lake are delusional. They have video of the goons taking down the tent and then they put up those updates. Unreal.

Posted by: tasker at December 11, 2012 01:44 PM (r2PLg)

209 If you watch several of the videos that are out there on this, there's one, and only one, sane black guy telling the thugs to quit the attacking because that will allow them to paint the unions as all thugs 'n shit.

He's right, and NO ONE LISTENED to him.

Too bad 92% of America will NEVER SEE THE FOOTAGE.

Posted by: Â© Sponge at December 11, 2012 01:44 PM (UK9cE)

210 but I would bet that some states have exemplted unions from them. like they have with stalking laws.

one benefit of having state controlled legislature and governor by GOP is that this shit can be punished, controlled.

BTW, that's the kind of thing you can easily pass without much controversy.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 11, 2012 01:44 PM (T0NGe)

211 What's so civil about war anyway ?

Posted by: grease monkey at December 11, 2012 01:44 PM (VSWPU)

212 It's great that the left is letting the mask fall off in public and that it has been caught on video, BUT will this be on the national news? cable news? Will it be on tomorrow's front page? any internet news site/blog that is not conservative? So if a tree falls in the forest?....

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at December 11, 2012 01:45 PM (53riN)

213 Please, this is easily explained. The Right is subhuman and deserves it.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 11, 2012 01:45 PM (Gk3SS)

214 I hope They find the thugs that did this. Then I hope they prosecute. Then I hope Crowder sues the shit out of them!

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 11, 2012 01:45 PM (erPos)

215 that liar's account sounds awful familiar they pulled that shit a couple of years ago, but I can't remember the details

Posted by: soothsayer at December 11, 2012 01:46 PM (jUytm)

216 I once was a participant in a bar room brawl. I will tell you this..... there were no winners. The only brawl you ever really win is the one you don't have. Now, if someone steps to you you have to respond, but otherwise it is always best to walk.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 11, 2012 01:46 PM (jucos)

217 Big thing the Right has to do is figure out how to destroy the public unions. Private sector unions are inherently limiting. Their greed destroys them before they can destroy the country.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 01:46 PM (ZPrif)

218 Is it wrong to want the state police/ National Guard to come in a start using fire hoses?

I'm in Michigan right now. It's 33 degrees.

Fire hoses would be perfect.

Posted by: shibumi at December 11, 2012 01:46 PM (z63Tr)

219 Here's the Fire Dog Lake post where they have the video -- http://firedoglake.com/2012/12/11/video-michigan-protesters-tear-down-americans-for-prosperity-tent/ --with the updates that are absolutely ludicrous given the video evidence they put up themselves.

Posted by: tasker at December 11, 2012 01:46 PM (r2PLg)

220 My, my. Methinks a nerve was struck (or is it stricken?). Them goonions are going insane with rage, I say.

Posted by: eureka! LiFBer at December 11, 2012 05:41 PM (HPRku)

If you've kept up with them over the years, you'll find that this is the normal behavior anytime they think someone is challenging them. Plenty of people have been killed for bucking a Union. Look at the Violence during the Coal mine strikes some years back.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 11, 2012 01:46 PM (bb5+k)

221 He's right, and NO ONE LISTENED to him.

Too bad 92% of America will NEVER SEE THE FOOTAGE.

Posted by: Ã‚Â© Sponge at December 11, 2012 05:44 PM (UK9cE)

-----

Alinsky's Rules...... aint just for radicals anymore.

Too effin bad.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 11, 2012 01:46 PM (nELVU)

222 198 Be careful about "Tony Cummings". A certain "Tony Cummings" was a union guy, but NOT IBEW, which this guy probably is... based on his Artie Fufkin Silk Baseball Jacket. Posted by: ChampionCapua at December 11, 2012 05:41 PM (KZi9D) You may be right. But if it's the same guy and he's convicted of assault on top of embezzling, wow.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2012 01:47 PM (XkWWK)

223 I'm required to join the union in my line of work (CWA, a subset of AFL-CIO, in a non-right to work state), so 1.5%-2% of my paycheck goes to this bumblefuckery. Awesome.

Posted by: Professor Marius von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at December 11, 2012 01:47 PM (aozUR)

224 Other 33 states. Math is hard. Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ needs a beer at December 11, 2012 05:33 PM (/kI1Q) made me laugh, hehe

Posted by: beach at December 11, 2012 01:47 PM (LpQbZ)

225

Actually..... yeah.... the Union was HIRED to take down that tent... yeah... by the Right Wing Guys... you know.... as Labor....

Yeah.... thats the ticket....

Posted by: En Fuego Canine Body of Water at December 11, 2012 01:47 PM (lZBBB)

226 Whaddaya want, wingnutz? He said it would be CIVIL!

Posted by: zsasz at December 11, 2012 01:48 PM (sr7ZF)

227 Fuck the Teamsters. I had to join them when working my second job at night for UPS. Then came the strike (I think it was 96) and they told me I had to drive 45 minutes to picket for one hour each day to get my $55 in strike pay. Told then to stick it where the sun don't shine and crossed the picket line to go to work. Made some mad money in those 2 weeks

Posted by: Ma Bell at December 11, 2012 01:48 PM (uVuwp)

228 Ghee-- I wonder how long it will take for Fire Dog Lake to come up with the video promised in the update of the AFP taking down the tent themselves... Tick, tock Fire Dog Lake get humping!

Posted by: tasker at December 11, 2012 01:48 PM (r2PLg)

229 Despite what the "bring. it. on" crowd seems to think, we have nothing to say about this. Nothing. Remember who won the election? He has troops and government drones to spare, and is probably eager to use them.

Get used to the violence and threats. It will not be safe for anyone who isn't fully down with Team Osama Obama.

Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at December 11, 2012 05:41 PM (yKUrR)

I don't think people get this yet. The Brownshirts have arrived. National Socialism. I thought we had kicked their ass already?

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 11, 2012 01:48 PM (bb5+k)

230 He's gotta get home to his hot wife (why am I the only one who notices her?). Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ needs a beer at December 11, 2012 05:43 PM (/kI1Q) Who's his wife?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2012 01:48 PM (XkWWK)

231 The MFM will soon be rhetorically asking whether it was a 'good idea' for Mr. Crowder to be circulating among the 'protesters'...get it?

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at December 11, 2012 01:48 PM (zpqa2)

232 See if the GOP were smart, they'd make these goons the face of the Democrats. But they won't, because they are stupid. Which is why I'm no longer a Republican. Posted by: Warden at December 11, 2012 05:33 PM (HzhBE) aye

Posted by: beach at December 11, 2012 01:48 PM (LpQbZ)

233 "business is bad? Fuck you, pay me"

Posted by: RizzyG at December 11, 2012 01:49 PM (FzyEN)

234

OK, so if you tear a tent down the law can't take effect?

What am I missing here?

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at December 11, 2012 01:49 PM (1Y+hH)

235 228 Posted by: Ma Bell at December 11, 2012 05:48 PM (uVuwp) Anyone who has ever worked on a film set can tell you Teamsters stories. They are not pretty.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2012 01:49 PM (XkWWK)

236 Kinda stunned Nevada is RTW. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 05:35 PM (ZPrif) Still a strong "f**k off and die" attitude here. Nevada shows RTW is no big deal. All the casinos full of SEIU. Posted by: @PurpAv at December 11, 2012 05:37 PM (bodka) There are still non-unionized casinos, and there is also a willingness to fight against the unions.

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 11, 2012 01:49 PM (sZTYJ)

237 He's right, and NO ONE LISTENED to him.

Too bad 92% of America will NEVER SEE THE FOOTAGE.

Posted by: Ã‚Â© Sponge at December 11, 2012 05:44 PM (UK9cE)

You think union goons are going to listen to a black guy. Why do you think the American labor movement was started? We will turn to Europe were all the pro union parties now are full of racists who cry about minorities taking their cut.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at December 11, 2012 01:49 PM (NzBQO)

238 it is exemplary of the whole union thug = lazy fat fuck thing that the lazy, old, fat fuck, who took a couple of slow mo swings at crowder was wearing his identifying information on his jacket. then again, nothing is going to happen to him, even with GOP governor.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at December 11, 2012 01:49 PM (QxSug)

239 Who's his wife?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2012 05:48 PM (XkWWK)

A reasonably hot chick that he didn't bang until after they were married a short time ago.

Posted by: Â© Sponge at December 11, 2012 01:49 PM (UK9cE)

240 "I have signed the freedom to work bills into law." - Gov Rick Snyder

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at December 11, 2012 01:50 PM (DGIjM)

241 Wow guy gets punched in the nose and the liberal jews somehow keep it off the evening news

Posted by: occam at December 11, 2012 05:43 PM (4Dspi)

RED FLAG HERE.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 11, 2012 01:50 PM (bb5+k)

242 Looked pretty UNCIVIL to me Jimmy.

Posted by: Michigan WILL Burn First at December 11, 2012 01:50 PM (QgpEL)

243 It has to be the height of symbolism for the unions to knock down a tent labeled, 'Americans for Prosperity'. Can't make this stuff up.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at December 11, 2012 01:51 PM (zpqa2)

244 RED FLAG HERE. It's Dunce#2, as Soothie would say.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 11, 2012 01:51 PM (QupBk)

245 also, it's not 1933, assholes. You're mostly in cushy jobs now making more money than college grads.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at December 11, 2012 01:51 PM (QxSug)

246 Reminds me of the Cat Meat Imam from Australia. Who do you blame? The cat, or the uncovered meat?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 11, 2012 01:51 PM (jucos)

247 214 Please, this is easily explained. The Right is subhuman and deserves it. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 11, 2012 05:45 PM (Gk3SS) That's funny. Until you study history.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 11, 2012 01:52 PM (bxiXv)

248 Dear Party of Stupid,

Do you really need unified talking points for the Sunday shows? Why, yes you do.

Here you go. You're welcome.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at December 11, 2012 01:52 PM (X/+QT)

249 241 "I have signed the freedom to work bills into law." - Gov Rick Snyder Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at December 11, 2012 05:50 PM (DGIjM) Damn. I got all hot and bothered because I thought this was a quote!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2012 01:52 PM (XkWWK)

250

Wait wait wait....

Were those guys in the tent disassembly union?

I think we have a problem here.

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at December 11, 2012 01:53 PM (1Y+hH)

251 Well, this could end up being good popcorn entertainment, as we watch the Free Shit Army bump up against the entitled salary-eating unionists and pensioners.

Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2012 05:43 PM (BoE3Z)

If we were Democrats, we would whip up resentment between the poor and the Unions by pointing out the disparity of money between them, and then allege all of the differential is based on under the radar racial preference.

Whether it's true or not wouldn't matter.... if we were Democrats.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 11, 2012 01:53 PM (bb5+k)

252 That's funny.

Until you study history. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 11, 2012 05:52 PM (bxiXv)

Yeah, it's funny up until the point you realize the Left is nodding along in agreement.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 11, 2012 01:53 PM (Gk3SS)

253 Some of the interview videos are quite disturbing.

One woman:

I'm scared for my kids. They both have degrees and one of them is working for $10 an hour. That's just not right! They need to have a chance for a middle class living and a future!

Translated: They should be guaranteed a good paying job with full benefits and retirement because they were BORN!!!!

Posted by: Â© Sponge at December 11, 2012 01:53 PM (UK9cE)

254 @251, that's funny. Yeah, that effort was against work rules. Only local 666 gets to tear down tents.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at December 11, 2012 01:54 PM (QxSug)

255 "Modern" unions do and have assaulted people, kidnapped people, and murdered people. Watching what seems to be a normal, well-adjusted suburban person not only excuse that but defend and advocate it is kind of horrifying in that "banality of evil" sort of way.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 11, 2012 01:54 PM (bxiXv)

256
I still like the beginning of the vid, where the union guy says he doesn't want the 'right to workers' getting his parasitic benefits.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 11, 2012 01:54 PM (n/ubI)

257 Who's his wife?

Mrs. Crowder. Lol.

http://pjmedia.com/andrewklavan/2012/09/21/steven-crowder-has-sex/

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 11, 2012 01:55 PM (/kI1Q)

258
One woman:

I'm scared for my kids. They both have degrees and one of them is working for $10 an hour. That's just not right! They need to have a chance for a middle class living and a future!

Translated: They should be guaranteed a good paying job with full benefits and retirement because they were BORN!!!!

xxx

Alternate translation: My kids deserve expensive free shit!

Posted by: shibumi at December 11, 2012 01:55 PM (z63Tr)

259 Yeah, it's funny up until the point you realize the Left is nodding along in agreement. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 11, 2012 05:53 PM (Gk3SS) With a copy of Prairie Fire in their back pocket, dog-eared page on the "how many Americans will have to be killed to usher in Utopia" part.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 11, 2012 01:56 PM (bxiXv)

260 Already seen some comments on FB by Union Goons, that anyone working in a union shop and not a paying union member will have lots of work accidents

Posted by: Ma Bell at December 11, 2012 01:56 PM (uVuwp)

261 I'm scared for my kids. They both have degrees

Degrees in what? A degree only guarantees you have toilet paper for one session.

Posted by: dogfish at December 11, 2012 01:56 PM (N2yhW)

262 Let it burn. Own it bitch Obama/Soetoro!

Posted by: Wm. T. Sherman at December 11, 2012 01:56 PM (ypzqs)

263 Top Sunni Clerics Issue Fatwa Against Dying Hair Black, Say Going Red Is OKÂ… Now that one I agree with.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 11, 2012 01:57 PM (79ueO)

264 also, it's not 1933, assholes. You're mostly in cushy jobs now making more money than college grads.

THIS!

It's part of the reason that unions are losing their luster even though people seem to theoretically support them (like in Ohio). It's hard to feel sorry for somebody working an unskilled labor job who's making more than you and your 4-year degree with college debt.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 11, 2012 01:57 PM (T0NGe)

265 258 Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ needs a beer at December 11, 2012 05:55 PM (/kI1Q) Shades of Scarlett Johannssen, but obviously with a brain!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2012 01:57 PM (XkWWK)

266 A better translation would be: We paid a ton of money for our kids' degrees in hotel management and hospitality, and we don't want them moving back in with us. Please, someone else pay their worthless asses.

Posted by: no good deed at December 11, 2012 01:57 PM (mjR67)

267 RED FLAG HERE.

It's Dunce#2, as Soothie would say.

Posted by:toby 928 at December 11, 2012 05:51 PM (QupBk)

Must not be in the loop on this. Dunce # 2 ? Does that mean we put up with it or something?

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 11, 2012 01:58 PM (bb5+k)

268 256 "Modern" unions do and have assaulted people, kidnapped people, and murdered people. Watching what seems to be a normal, well-adjusted suburban person not only excuse that but defend and advocate it is kind of horrifying in that "banality of evil" sort of way. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 11, 2012 05:54 PM (bxiXv) Google Jablonski, United Mine Workers. I think Hoffa Sr. might have been involved with that.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2012 01:58 PM (XkWWK)

269 How much would an Alinskyite like Barry love to see some real civil unrest... What a Christmas present... He's probably whisperin' in Hoffa's ear... "Start a fire in the ~~Reichstag~~ Michigan Capitol... Imagine, a thousand year ~~reich~~ reign... "

Posted by: phreshone at December 11, 2012 01:58 PM (0SXI6)

270 Stop teasing me Hoffa! I know you're not really going to try it. Are you? Are you? Please?

Posted by: Mack at December 11, 2012 01:58 PM (0D1vx)

271 267 A better translation would be: We paid a ton of money for our kids' degrees in hotel management and hospitality, and we don't want them moving back in with us. Please, someone else pay their worthless asses. Posted by: no good deed at December 11, 2012 05:57 PM (mjR67) Jeez, at least those have SOME value in the work world. Then there's philosophy, liberal arts, sociology, psychology, film studies, Black studies, Feminist studies etc. ad nauseum...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2012 02:00 PM (XkWWK)

272 Jimmy Jr. didn't inherit his dad's special accomodations in Giants Stadium at the 50 yard line. This injustice should be remedied

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at December 11, 2012 02:00 PM (w41GQ)

273

My SiL grew up on a farm. When he went to work for unionized UPS I told him I couldn't imagine how a farm boy would last at a union shop. He was unloading 27 pallets of product a day while the other guys were unloading 13. After he was called in and told to slow down for the second time, he quit.

Works for Old Dominion now, non-union.

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at December 11, 2012 02:00 PM (1Y+hH)

274 I still like the beginning of the vid, where the union guy says he doesn't want the 'right to workers' getting his parasitic benefits.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 11, 2012 05:54 PM (n/ubI)

Yeah, I thought that was funny. A Tick defending the dog from rival (in his view) blood suckers!

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 11, 2012 02:00 PM (bb5+k)

275 Is Tony Cummings photo up anyplace yet?

Posted by: Who Knows at December 11, 2012 02:01 PM (W+Itt)

276 Does that mean we put up with it or something? Yeah, mostly. He's just stupid and silly rather than despicable.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 11, 2012 02:01 PM (QupBk)

277 You think this is bad? I mean, this going to get worse and it's going to seem really bad, but just wait until this happens in CA, NY, and IL.

This will look friendly.

Posted by: runninrebel at December 11, 2012 02:01 PM (je2hI)

278 Already seen some comments on FB by Union Goons, that anyone working in a union shop and not a paying union member will have lots of work accidents

Posted by: Ma Bell at December 11, 2012 05:56 PM (uVuwp)

This is why even in RTW states union membership can be high. RTW is nice on paper, but doesn't hurt unions where they already have a foothold.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at December 11, 2012 02:01 PM (zpqa2)

279 Right to work signed into law by Governor Synder.

Way
To
Go!

/sending prayers to those who voted for this.

Posted by: shibumi at December 11, 2012 02:01 PM (z63Tr)

280 Correction: Joseph Yablonski http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Yablonski

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2012 02:01 PM (XkWWK)

281
Jimmy, I am your father.

Posted by: Giants Endzone at December 11, 2012 02:02 PM (n/ubI)

282 Jimmy Jr. didn't inherit his dad's special accomodations in Giants Stadiumat the 50 yard line. This injustice should be remedied Posted by: Wm T Sherman at December 11, 2012 06:00 PM (w41GQ) Actually that was the old stadium. It's just land fill now.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 11, 2012 02:02 PM (79ueO)

283 274 Jimmy Jr. didn't inherit his dad's special accomodations in Giants Stadiumat the 50 yard line. This injustice should be remedied Posted by: Wm T Sherman at December 11, 2012 06:00 PM (w41GQ) You give new meaning to the term "luxury box."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2012 02:02 PM (XkWWK)

284 272 alright i know this makes me Concerned but the Nazi refs are a bit much Posted by: JDP at December 11, 2012 06:00 PM (60GaT) No need to get your jimmies rustled, friend. We'll just call them Juche Girls. Is that better?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 11, 2012 02:03 PM (bxiXv)

285 alright i know this makes me Concerned but the Nazi refs are a bit much

Posted by: JDP at December 11, 2012 06:00 PM (60GaT)

It's the closest historical analogy to what is currently happening. The National Socialists share tactics and ideology with the current crowd in power. Brownshirt thuggery is one of the means that they acquired it. See how Hillary lost the Dem Primary, if you're not already familiar with it.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 11, 2012 02:04 PM (bb5+k)

286 Note to Hoffa: Don't go west of Ionia. You may not like the breed of Michagander you'll find out there. They know who wrecked their state.

Posted by: weew at December 11, 2012 02:06 PM (ElfHn)

287 Nothing wrong with calling national socialist thugs, national socialist thugs.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 02:06 PM (ZPrif)

288 I'm thinking the GOP needs a counter goon squad.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 11, 2012 02:06 PM (0dafL)

289

Actually that was the old stadium. It's just land fill now.

How fitting.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 11, 2012 02:07 PM (yiIja)

290 Are there any other states close to RTW? Indiana 2011 Michigan 2012 2013 anyone?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 02:08 PM (ZPrif)

291 Oooh look what the new head of the Democrat Kool Kidz Klub had to say about Governor Snyder: "The governor of Michigan is one greedy nerd and he's one weak geek," said incoming House Minority Leader Tim Greimel, D-Auburn Hills. usatoday.com

Posted by: tasker at December 11, 2012 02:08 PM (r2PLg)

292 Those union members are amateurs!

Posted by: Hosrt Wessel at December 11, 2012 02:08 PM (sZTYJ)

293 Back in '82, the OCAW went on a strike that lasted over a year in our area. People were getting desperate for work, and one guy crossed the picket line. Later that week, he was shot 5 times with a .22 rifle. No one was ever charged, but the guy sued the union and won. Of course, he never saw any of the money. They filed for bankruptcy.

Posted by: no good deed at December 11, 2012 02:09 PM (mjR67)

294 Re: Seven Crowder @JoesUnionReview @mighty_tuna Too bad he didn't kill the scumbag! That's next, and rightfully so, which side are you on?

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at December 11, 2012 02:09 PM (DGIjM)

295 The public employee unions in the blue states are going to be a real problem.

Although they won't have a very sustainable force because they're so fat and unhealthy. I'm expect that a large number of them will have major health incidents when the shit gets real.

Posted by: runninrebel at December 11, 2012 02:09 PM (je2hI)

296

Hoffa? Hoffa? Hum? Seem to remember a Hoffa who is sleeping with the fishes?

With Hoffa and RFK Jr in the news this week you could be forgiven for thinking you're in the 60s again.

Posted by: Decaf at December 11, 2012 02:09 PM (f88gl)

297 Heh: Tim Greimel's bio says - Prior to joining the Legislature, Tim worked as an attorney in the field of labor, employment, and civil rights to make sure every worker has the right to find and keep a good job and to protect our hard-working citizens from unfair discrimination by their employers.

Posted by: Golan Globus at December 11, 2012 02:09 PM (/1U3u)

298 We're going to have a civil war," Hoffa said on CNN's "Newsroom."

Sorry, Jimbo. When your army is comprised entirely of stupid, obese, middle-aged drunks, the war won't last very long and you'll get the worst of it.

Here's a preview of the unions' "civil war":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gReRfJC6uRM

Posted by: Llarry at December 11, 2012 02:10 PM (nMCEa)

299 Before Indiana the most recent was Texas in 1993.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 02:10 PM (ZPrif)

300 Somebody mentioned the SEIU upthread. That has to be the suckiest union of all. You get nothing but a purple shirt and an unwitting contribution to the Democrats.

They love to get a foothold in low-paying industries (retail and supermarkets) and use the part-timers, kids and temporary workers' dues to feed the union fatcats.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 11, 2012 02:10 PM (T0NGe)

301 Tim Greimels additional bio notes state : incited riot in 2012.

Posted by: Who Knows at December 11, 2012 02:10 PM (W+Itt)

302 Heh: Tim Greimel's bio says - Prior to joining the Legislature, Tim worked as an attorney in the field of labor, employment, and civil rights to make sure every worker has the right to find and keep a good job and to protect our hard-working citizens from unfair discrimination by their employers. Posted by: Golan Globus at December 11, 2012 06:09 PM (/1U3u) ________________ Ghee he sounds kind of "geeky" or something...heh.

Posted by: tasker at December 11, 2012 02:11 PM (r2PLg)

303

Danny Greene was a union guy too. Don't forget we are up against real criminal elements.

Kill the Irishman.

Posted by: imp at December 11, 2012 02:11 PM (UaxA0)

304

Hugo Chavez is currently in surgery in Cuba. I assume the medical staff is union.

So we've got that going for us.

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at December 11, 2012 02:11 PM (1Y+hH)

305

stupid, obese, middle-aged drunks,

Well, respectfully, OUR army has three of those four covered pretty well too.

Posted by: imp at December 11, 2012 02:12 PM (UaxA0)

306 I'm surprised Chavez has lived this long. Soon Chavez and Castro will both be dead. Who's gonna be the face of Latin Leftism?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 02:13 PM (ZPrif)

307 reward to find Steven Crowders attacker is now at 5k.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at December 11, 2012 02:14 PM (DGIjM)

308 Prior to joining the Legislature, Tim worked as an attorney

Of course he did.

in the field of labor, employment, and civil rights

Of course he did. BTW, what is a "civil" right and why does leftism need so many adjectives?

to make sure every worker has the right to find and keep a good job and to protect our hard-working citizens from unfair discrimination by their employers.

Did he address the discrimination that only law school grads are allowed in a whole one-third of government?

His whole view of the world is that stuff needs to be taken, either by legislation or lawsuits.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 11, 2012 02:15 PM (T0NGe)

309 I think this will weaken the public unions in Michigan. In Florida, a right to work state, only about 75% of the public school teachers belong to the union.

Posted by: boniface ballers at December 11, 2012 02:15 PM (l3RZ9)

310 I'm surprised Chavez has lived this long.
Soon Chavez and Castro will both be dead. Who's gonna be the face of Latin Leftism?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 06:13 PM (ZPrif)

__ ____ ____ ____ ____ ___

......Hugo has designated a successor who looks like a Latin Saddam. Don't know if he's got game yet.

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at December 11, 2012 02:15 PM (1Y+hH)

311 I wonder if the Michigan Meelesha is pro- or anti- Union???

Posted by: phreshone at December 11, 2012 02:15 PM (0SXI6)

312 I've been waiting years for fat neck Hugo to drop dead and Fidel too.They've both lived too long.

Posted by: steevy at December 11, 2012 02:16 PM (9XBK2)

313 Soon Chavez and Castro will both be dead. Who's gonna be the face of Latin Leftism? Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 06:13 PM (ZPrif) obama?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 11, 2012 02:16 PM (79ueO)

314 alright i know this makes me Concerned but the Nazi refs are a bit much Posted by: JDP

You were the first to mention nazis here, so ...

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at December 11, 2012 02:16 PM (TtXjG)

315 Hugo has designated a successor who looks like a Latin Saddam. Don't know if he's got game yet. Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at December 11, 2012 06:15 PM (1Y+hH) He does look like Saddam. Fitting I guess

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 11, 2012 02:16 PM (79ueO)

316

Indeed, outside of the Detroit-Ann Arbor axis, Michigan is pretty Republican / conservative. And throw in Flint as being Democrat too.

One reason why Michigan State (East Lansing) and University of Michigan (Ann Arbor) are such rivals. Even though they are not that far apart physically, the culture is completely different.

Western and Northern Michigan are very conservative and that shit in the capital will piss those people off. Don't be surprised if a bunch of Michigan people show up in few days with shotguns in the gun rack of their pick-ups and counter demonstrate. A lot of people in Michigan are very pissed at the way Detroit has been grotesquely mismanaged over the years, and are pissed about the UAW being perceived as chasing a lot of autoworker jobs out of the state. Which they have.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is Eddie Willers, sure at December 11, 2012 02:16 PM (RFeQD)

317 Crowder should press charges, but a lawsuit probably wouldn't be worth the trouble unless he just wanted to annoy the guy and make him hire a lawyer. He wasn't hurt badly and so he wouldn't get much in compensation. No, if you want to get the big lawsuit going you've got to be seen on video saying "I got a bad back! I got a bad back!" over and over again.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at December 11, 2012 02:17 PM (nZvGM)

318 It's important that we publicly humiliate whoever the goons are that attacked Crowder. Freeze the target. Personalize. Polarize. More leftists and goons will be tempted to use violence. They have to know every aspect of their personal life will be splayed over the internet if they do. There is no anonymous violence. Even if you are in a crowd.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 02:17 PM (ZPrif)

319 the Nazis de-balled the union movement in Germany very quickly after gaining power in Jan 1933--a 'union movement' which was thoroughly infested with commies and the usual fellow-travelling socialist tools

out-thugged the thugs, Hitler did

Posted by: Waldo at December 11, 2012 02:18 PM (Dll6b)

320 I wonder if the Michigan Meelesha is pro- or anti- Union???

Wow, that's a "tell".

Who the hell talks about the militias anymore? Except leftist who live in the past.

Do they even formally exist? Even at the time, they were a bunch of old people with shotguns and delusions of grandeur.

But, hey, if they're anti-slavery, good on 'em.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 11, 2012 02:18 PM (T0NGe)

321 Right to work signed into law by Governor Synder.

Way
To
Go!

/sending prayers to those who voted for this.

Posted by: shibumi at December 11, 2012 06:01 PM (z63Tr)

Maybe we need to be doing more of that, because it ain't over yet!

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 11, 2012 02:18 PM (Cnqmv)

322

What the Union members should really be screaming about...is where their pension money went.

How could all these Union bosses be pouring so much money into getting Dems elected, and still have the right amounts in their pension funds?

Perhaps we should agitate about that...

Hey, Union goons.

Where did your Pension Fund go?

Posted by: wheatie at December 11, 2012 02:18 PM (CM59X)

323 Crowder should press charges, but a lawsuit probably wouldn't be worth the trouble unless he just wanted to annoy the guy and make him hire a lawyer. He wasn't hurt badly and so he wouldn't get much in compensation.

RICO's a motherfucker. If it's good enough to use it against Operation Rescue, it's good enough to use it against the unions.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 11, 2012 02:19 PM (Gk3SS)

324 You were the first to mention nazis here, so ...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 11, 2012 06:16 PM (TtXjG)

Nah, that was me. I stand by it. The Nazis are the closest analogy to what is occurring now. (referring to the regime in power)

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 11, 2012 02:19 PM (bb5+k)

325 Hoffa: Next up for Nobel Peace Prize Cummings: Medal of Honor

Posted by: beach at December 11, 2012 02:19 PM (LpQbZ)

326 Union goons don't care where their pension went since they fully expect to take any missing money out of the taxpayer's wallet.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 02:20 PM (ZPrif)

327 Never let a crisis go to waste

You know Barry wants some bloodshed... He's pro-union until it will be in his interest to be anti-Union...

Posted by: phreshone at December 11, 2012 02:20 PM (0SXI6)

328 Cool! Where do i sign up for the Anti-Union Calvary?

Posted by: Whatev at December 11, 2012 02:21 PM (2t6Gz)

329 Exactly. Don't sue the guy. He was wearing a union jacket at a union-organized rally. Sue the union. Sue Jimmy Hoffa.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 02:21 PM (ZPrif)

330 There is no anonymous violence. Even if you are in a crowd.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 06:17 PM (ZPrif)

It is hard to use pure Alinsky tactics when the media is agin ya (and you have a conscience)!

But Twitter & Facebook might be useful tools for unsociable justice

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 11, 2012 02:21 PM (Cnqmv)

331 Freeze the target. Personalize. Polarize.

More leftists and goons will be tempted to use violence. They have to know every aspect of their personal life will be splayed over the internet if they do.

There is no anonymous violence. Even if you are in a crowd.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 06:17 PM (ZPrif)

For the sake of future peace, Crowder needs to barbecue his assailant if possible. If they know there is a penalty for hitting someone, future versions of them will be less likely to do it.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 11, 2012 02:21 PM (bb5+k)

332 "Freeze the target. Personalize. Polarize."

I don't think I will allow that.

Posted by: MFM at December 11, 2012 02:21 PM (zpqa2)

333 That's the funny thing about authoritarian collectives, they make weak individuals believe they are strong because they are many. But if these mouth-breathing sloths ever stepped away from their PR actions and committed to open force against the general population they would get trounced.

It's one thing to play a fighter and a whole other thing to fight.

Posted by: runninrebel at December 11, 2012 02:22 PM (je2hI)

334 the Nazis de-balled the union movement in Germany very quickly after gaining power in Jan 1933--a 'union movement' which was thoroughly infested with commies and the usual fellow-travelling socialist tools

out-thugged the thugs, Hitler did

Posted by: Waldo at December 11, 2012 06:18 PM (Dll6b)

He just made them join a bigger union.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 11, 2012 02:22 PM (bb5+k)

335 Sue the union. Sue Jimmy Hoffa.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 06:21 PM (ZPrif)

Deep pockets lawfare!

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 11, 2012 02:22 PM (Cnqmv)

336 Of course, tactically, it's important to remember that private sector unions aren't our real enemy. It's the public sector unions -- the government unions -- that are the true cancer.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 02:22 PM (ZPrif)

337 that guy was quite aggressive, he was organized into acting that way by the unions. Sue the unions.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at December 11, 2012 02:22 PM (QxSug)

338

Union goons don't care where their pension went since they fully expect to take any missing money out of the taxpayer's wallet - Flatbush Joe

Exactly. The Pension Guarantee Corporation, which is much like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is for mortgages, underwrites Union pensions. And the Pension Guarantee Corporation (Federal) is underwritten with....taxpayer dollars.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is Eddie Willers, sure at December 11, 2012 02:23 PM (RFeQD)

339 319, battery = intentional tort = punitive damages

Posted by: For The Benefit of Amish Dud at December 11, 2012 02:24 PM (AVfT8)

340 RICO's a motherfucker. If it's good enough to use it against Operation Rescue, it's good enough to use it against the unions.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 11, 2012 06:19 PM (Gk3SS)

Except you forget that weapon is in the Hands of Democrats. The Justice Department will NOT bring such a suit against the Unions. You can just forget that idea completely.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 11, 2012 02:24 PM (bb5+k)

341 Well, we've been in a "Cold Civil War" for a while now. I guess this is some sort of natural "Progression."

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 11, 2012 02:24 PM (aLLUm)

342 The right-o-sphere can do some pretty effective personal humiliation even if the leftist media won't cover it. I doubt those goons want all their personal details all over Ace, Breitbart, Fox, DailyCaller, HotAir, etc, etc, etc, etc.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 02:24 PM (ZPrif)

343 @MsRock4Ever @BarackObama I hope he'll denounce the thuggish tactics of koch brothers and their ilk. They're ANTI-American and ANTI-human

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at December 11, 2012 02:25 PM (DGIjM)

344
It's the public sector unions -- the government unions -- that are the true cancer.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 06:22 PM (ZPrif)

I think members of a government union would be most vulnerable to an Alinsky attack (but with Holder at DoJ maybe not)!

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 11, 2012 02:25 PM (Cnqmv)

345 Yep. The union's pensions haven't gone missing. They are resting comfortably in your bank account, your 401k, and your future salary.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 02:25 PM (ZPrif)

346 Except you forget that weapon is in the Hands of Democrats. The Justice Department will NOT bring such a suit against the Unions. You can just forget that idea completely. Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 11, 2012 06:24 PM (bb5+k) I keep thinking obama, the dems, and the unions will overplay their hands and the American Public will stand up and revolt en mass? But I guess I over estimate the American Public? Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 11, 2012 02:26 PM (79ueO)

347

328 Union goons don't care where their pension went since they fully expect to take any missing money out of the taxpayer's wallet.

I think that's true for the Union bosses.

But the useful idiots who are sent out to protest...are arguing about the virtues of being in a Union.

So I don't think they stop to think about where their pension money is.

They seem to believe the lies.

Posted by: wheatie at December 11, 2012 02:26 PM (CM59X)

348

Chrysler has reinstated workers filmed drinking and smoking pot at lunch.

Union goodness.

Posted by: Who Knows at December 11, 2012 02:27 PM (W+Itt)

349

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is Eddie Willers, sure at December 11, 2012 06:23 PM (RFeQD)

But PBGC benefits are a hell of alot lower than what the Unions signed up for... of course that doesn't affect the union bosses who imbezzled the pension funds

Posted by: phreshone at December 11, 2012 02:27 PM (0SXI6)

350 Except you forget that weapon is in the Hands of Democrats. The Justice Department will NOT bring such a suit against the Unions. You can just forget that idea completely.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 11, 2012 06:24 PM (bb5+k)

The Justice Department no, but, iirc, there are private causes of action under RICO that are available as well.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 11, 2012 02:27 PM (Gk3SS)

351 341 319, battery = intentional tort = punitive damages

Posted by: For The Benefit of Amish Dud at December 11, 2012 06:24 PM (AVfT

BMW v Gore

Posted by: somebody else, not me at December 11, 2012 02:27 PM (nZvGM)

352 As far as the Crowder incident goes, we can make a bunch of comparisons to Eastern Europe, Central America, etc. as an instance of opposition media being attacked with impunity. But '30s Germany was a much straighter line, so it's a legit comparison. If one were to jump right ahead to "The Dawn of a New Holocaust!", that would be frittata.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 11, 2012 02:28 PM (tkoGU)

353 But it's a rethuglican dog whistle you must be hearing, can't be our union brotherhood!!11!

Posted by: ktnxbai*cough up the lace wigs* at December 11, 2012 02:28 PM (he33V)

354 They seem to believe the lies. Posted by: wheatie at December 11, 2012 06:26 PM (CM59X) They live the lie, they are the lie

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 11, 2012 02:28 PM (79ueO)

355

AlextheChick, I had friends RICO'd for being part of Operation Rescue.

Yeah, think they'll use it against anyone else?

Posted by: Who Knows at December 11, 2012 02:28 PM (W+Itt)

356 Chrysler has reinstated workers filmed drinking and smoking pot at lunch.
Union goodness.

Posted by: Who Knows at December 11, 2012 06:27 PM (W+Itt)

At least they're now only allowed to do brake assemblies!

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 11, 2012 02:29 PM (Cnqmv)

357 I also think Washington and Oregon are possible RTW targets. If we can get Michigan then we can get all but the most left-wing states.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 02:29 PM (ZPrif)

358 PS, Face Of Latino Leftizm? Mayor Tony Villar of Los An-hell-es!!11!!

Posted by: ktnxbai*cough up the lace wigs* at December 11, 2012 02:29 PM (he33V)

359 You can also sue the city and state if they don't protect you from union violence like that. Those laws were put in place to protect the civil rights protesters -- they'd get beaten up and the cops would ignore it.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 02:30 PM (ZPrif)

360 It's strange that we've made the most progress on right to work in 20 years under 2 term Obama.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 02:31 PM (ZPrif)

361 I guess we'll know whether they're serious or if they're just a bunch of fat, drunk, stupid people using their sizable girth to commit brainless acts of violence when and if they take a shot at one of these legislators.

Posted by: runninrebel at December 11, 2012 02:33 PM (je2hI)

362 I keep thinking obama, the dems, and the unions will overplay their hands and the American Public will stand up and revolt en mass? But I guess I over estimate the American Public? Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 11, 2012 06:26 PM (79ueO)

That ship has also sailed. I keep looking at it six ways to Sunday, and it keeps coming back to now is the time to hunker down for a long dread Winter while the Sunlight flees from our Nation.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 11, 2012 02:33 PM (bb5+k)

363 Oh the bluster, the lamentations. FUCK YOU LOSERS!

WE WON AGAIN, THIS IS GOOD!

http://tinyurl.com/d2qplz

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at December 11, 2012 02:33 PM (wR+pz)

364 I've been waiting years for fat neck Hugo to drop dead and Fidel too.They've both lived too long. Posted by: steevy at December 11, 2012 06:16 PM (9XBK2) Meh, there's rumor there are so many Hugo stand-ins that he may have been dead a while.

Posted by: beach at December 11, 2012 02:34 PM (LpQbZ)

365 Forgive me if this has been posted already, and I know it's a common enough name, but, since NBC can do it, so can I.

nlpc dot org backslash category backslash people backslash tony-cummings

ummm, how does tiny url work? Sorry, hope I don't break the blog.

Posted by: Dish of Red at December 11, 2012 02:34 PM (Dmq63)

366 2013 anyone?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 06:08 PM (ZPrif)

I give you even odd on PA. Don't we control everything there too?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at December 11, 2012 02:34 PM (wR+pz)

367
The Justice Department no, but, iirc, there are private causes of action under RICO that are available as well.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 11, 2012 06:27 PM (Gk3SS)

In that case, I expect the Justice Department to spring into action.... Filing Amicus briefs on behalf of the assailants.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 11, 2012 02:34 PM (bb5+k)

368 Labor Unions: "We want more stuff, and are willing to do whatever it takes to establish a (violent, thuggish) cartel to get it." The Education System (Labor Unions): "How Progressive." The Media: "How Progressive/Violence, what violence?" Economic Professors/Experts: "How Progressive." etc

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 11, 2012 02:35 PM (aLLUm)

369 Chrysler has reinstated workers filmed drinking and smoking pot at lunch. You know what it's like to drive a brand new car, with a 570 page manual, filled to overflowing with the latest in electronic goodies nowadays? Picture yourself on a six lane highway with a tractor trailer to your left, and a tractor trailer to your right. It's just begun to snow, and you're doing 70 mph. That's what I experienced two weeks ago. The very last thing you want to think about is that your car was assembled by some stoners. Fuck union-made cars.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at December 11, 2012 02:35 PM (feFL6)

370 Crowder has challenged his assailant to 5 minutes in a ring. 'For charity.' And to kick his ass.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at December 11, 2012 02:35 PM (X/+QT)

371 HAMILTON, N.J. - December 11, 2012 (WPVI) -- Officials say aviation fuel was pumped into cars after it was mistakenly delivered to three New Jersey gas stations. Several cars stalled on Friday in Mercer County when the stations unknowingly pumped aviation fuel into their tanks. The affected stations are Lukoil at 2515 Brunswick Pike in Lawrence, Express Fuel at 2482 S. Broad St. in Hamilton, and Lukoil at 1070 White Horse Ave. in Hamilton.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 11, 2012 02:35 PM (Ue72k)

372 Anyway, a Tony Cummings was indicted for embezzling from a union in OH.

Posted by: Dish of Red at December 11, 2012 02:36 PM (Dmq63)

373 Buy ammo, and train. Posted by: steveegg at December 11, 2012 05:09 PM (o44nj) The train is for hauling the ammo, right Tonto?

Posted by: Opus An Arcus at December 11, 2012 02:36 PM (3EC+f)

374 You know what it's like to drive a brand new car, with a 570 page manual, filled to overflowing with the latest in electronic goodies nowadays?

Seriously, my next vehicle will be a 1930's or 40's era Ford truck that I can fix with a wrench, a hammer and duct tape.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 11, 2012 02:36 PM (Gk3SS)

375 WE WON FUCK YOU!

http://tinyurl.com/btryf55

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at December 11, 2012 02:36 PM (wR+pz)

376

Time to get ready to go to our local volunteer firefighters (non-union) Christmas dinner. These guys are better known for their rescue prowess than for firefighting, and prove their worth often. They recently pulled a guy and his son up a nearly vertical bluff after a truck accident.

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at December 11, 2012 02:36 PM (1Y+hH)

377 I love to watch union thugs sweat. Happy day!

Posted by: carolina at December 11, 2012 02:37 PM (QVLHl)

378 Because concomitant to the right to assemble is the right not to assemble.

Right to work is a natural state, Unionism is antithetical to individual liberty.

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 11, 2012 02:37 PM (RrD4h)

379 during the 2 1/2 years of 'presidential dictatorship' leading up to the deal which made Hitler the Chancellor of Germany, the unions betrayed democracy: They supported the communists ( KPD ) and took to the streets rather than work with the anti-Nazi & anti-communist parties

In the two elections during 1932, the Nazis only got 1/3 of the vote; communists got another third; the parties supporting democracy got the other third. The unions mostly supported the communists. Hitler got the idea for street gangs ( including brown shirts and red armbands ) from the unions / communists

symmetry...

Posted by: Waldo at December 11, 2012 02:37 PM (Dll6b)

380 Sorry I didn't provide a link about the Chyrsler rehires. A quick search will show you the video that got them fired and they were just reinstated.

Posted by: Who Knows at December 11, 2012 02:38 PM (W+Itt)

381 Frankenstein lives!!!!!

Posted by: Clemenza at December 11, 2012 02:38 PM (lewKL)

382 I'd be careful about going at it with cops and firemen.

Fuck the fucking firemen, a lazy bunch of pussies if you ask me.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at December 11, 2012 02:38 PM (ZOf1l)

383 So the ol' mileage gauge is about to turnover to 12/12/12. How many will be paying attention at 12:12 tonight. It's the last time this will happen for a century.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 11, 2012 02:39 PM (piMMO)

384 Any union leaders having dinner at the Macus Red Fox tonight?

Posted by: Clemenza at December 11, 2012 02:39 PM (lewKL)

385 Crowder has challenged his assailant to 5 minutes in a ring. 'For charity.' And to kick his ass.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at December 11, 2012 06:35 PM (X/+QT)

Good tactic. Crowder can likely beat the dog snot out of him in a fair fight. The guy won't take him up on it, and that will make him look like a coward.

Alinsky can work for our side if we can just apply it properly.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 11, 2012 02:39 PM (bb5+k)

386 That ship has also sailed. I keep looking at it six ways to Sunday, and it keeps coming back to now is the time to hunker down for a long dread Winter while the Sunlight flees from our Nation.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 11, 2012 06:33 PM (bb5+k) [/i

Even with the media in the tank, and the FSA battalions on the march, I figured that an actual paper record for Obama's administration would be enough to change the course of the nation. The apologists are now arguing that we came very close and we have governors, legislatures, etc.so it wasn't [u]that big a loss. I am now convinced that a long long winter is just around the corner and that the "US Spring" (TM) will not be coming anytime soon.

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 11, 2012 02:40 PM (Cnqmv)

387

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 11, 2012 02:40 PM (Cnqmv)

388 well, until noon tomorrow!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 11, 2012 02:40 PM (piMMO)

389 There is plenty of room for you in the other end zone of giants stadium you trifling sucker of cock.

Posted by: Butters at December 11, 2012 02:40 PM (NIZHJ)

390

Hugo Chavez is currently in surgery in Cuba.

Prayers

...for a power outage.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 11, 2012 02:41 PM (yiIja)

391 If Crowder had 2 minutes with the old alkie who hit him (with 10,000 behind him) all he would have to do is nick his nose, which is one giant gin blossom.

Posted by: Who Knows at December 11, 2012 02:41 PM (W+Itt)

392 @391 must be a Giacalone cousin

Posted by: Clemenza at December 11, 2012 02:42 PM (lewKL)

393 There is plenty of room for you in the other end zone of giants stadium you trifling sucker of cock. **** Can we use union labor to do the digging?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 11, 2012 02:42 PM (piMMO)

394

376 ...Seriously, my next vehicle will be a 1930's or 40's era Ford truck that I can fix with a wrench, a hammer and duct tape.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 11, 2012 06:36 PM (Gk3SS)

-------

Which is why Barky will probably push to get the older vehicles outlawed...and destroyed.

Cash for Clunkers?

That was 'playing nice'.

He doesn't have to worry about getting reelected now.

So he could have the EPA do some new Regs that litterally make it illegal to own an older vehicle.

Posted by: wheatie at December 11, 2012 02:43 PM (CM59X)

395 Col. Hoffa: Commander of the Fat Fuck Division of the Free Shit Army.

Posted by: runninrebel at December 11, 2012 02:43 PM (je2hI)

396 341 319, battery = intentional tort = punitive damages

Posted by: For The Benefit of Amish Dud at December 11, 2012 06:24 PM (AVfT

Not a fan of punitive damages. You (and your lawyer) get to hit the jackpot because somebody "deserves" to be "punished"? I'd rather have "pain and suffering" or "psychological harm".

"Punitive" belongs in criminal court.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 11, 2012 02:43 PM (T0NGe)

397 **Hitler got the idea for street gangs ( including brown shirts and red armbands ) from the unions / communists*** you mean the leader of the german national socialist workers party took some ideas from socialist parties? stunned. for realz? Crowder challenged the guy? that seems a little too pat.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at December 11, 2012 02:44 PM (QxSug)

398 Just received an FNC alert: Obama recognizes Syrian rebels. There's joke in there somewhere.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 11, 2012 02:44 PM (piMMO)

399
Hmm... It's rejecting my message because it says it looks like spam. This is a test message.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 11, 2012 02:44 PM (bb5+k)

400 If that piece of shit Hoffa wants to start an actual war on anyone, Ill gladly travel there myself to support my conservative brothers. If it comes to self defense, may our reaction be swift and violent.

Posted by: ElKomandante at December 11, 2012 02:44 PM (t5sVh)

401 "392 Hugo Chavez is currently in surgery in Cuba. Prayers ...for a power outage. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 11, 2012 06:41 PM (yiIja) " Pretty much everything in/about Communism/Leftism sucks balls. But if you're an Elite, it's not so bad... (And I only say pretty much everything because I find dialectical materialism sort of interesting.)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 11, 2012 02:45 PM (aLLUm)

402

Can we use union labor to do the digging?

Youse gots to. Read the fookin' contract.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 11, 2012 02:45 PM (yiIja)

403 Seriously, my next vehicle will be a 1930's or 40's era Ford truck that I can fix with a wrench, a hammer and duct tape.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 11, 2012 06:36 PM (Gk3SS)

AtC: I have a '57 tractor that is exactly like that. Cast iron, mechanical linkages, built to last and be repaired. Wish I still had that '57 Chevy V-8.

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 11, 2012 02:45 PM (Cnqmv)

404 tony cummings swung at crowder like he was swimming through gravy. Crowder was more concerned with crowd control that dealing with the homer simpson like fools individually.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at December 11, 2012 02:45 PM (QxSug)

405
Seriously, my next vehicle will be a 1930's or 40's era Ford truck that I can fix with a wrench, a hammer and duct tape.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 11, 2012 06:36 PM (Gk3SS)

I'm doing the same thing, but I'm not going back quite so far.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 11, 2012 02:45 PM (bb5+k)

406 400 Just received an FNC alert: Obama recognizes Syrian rebels.

There's joke in there somewhere.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 11, 2012 06:44 PM (piMMO)

Most of them are from Dearborn and they voted for him. Pay back baby.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at December 11, 2012 02:45 PM (wR+pz)

407 btw, just to reiterate. The law does not apply to the left and their clients. anyone who fights back will be dealt with harshly.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at December 11, 2012 02:46 PM (QxSug)

408 Because concomitant to the right to assemble is the right not to assemble.

Right to work is a natural state, Unionism is antithetical to individual liberty.

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 11, 2012 06:37 PM (RrD4h)

Well said. I've attempted to get that point across many times.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 11, 2012 02:46 PM (bb5+k)

409 Hitler tolerated unionists and socialists when politically expedient/convenient.

Otto and Gregor Strasser organized and built the Northern German/Berlin socialist faction of the NSDAP. The brothersd advocated for change via violent, mass-action worker-based unionist attacks on traditional society. Hitler needed otto and gregor, without support from Berlin, Hitler was just a provincial loudmouth kook living in Bavaria.

Wiki has a decent summary.

Posted by: 13times at December 11, 2012 02:47 PM (h6XiD)

410 "400 Just received an FNC alert: Obama recognizes Syrian rebels. There's joke in there somewhere. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 11, 2012 06:44 PM (piMMO) " As his fellow Muslim brothers.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 11, 2012 02:47 PM (aLLUm)

411
I sure hope Crowder sues the crap out of that guy. Conservatives need to start making examples of these people.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 11, 2012 02:47 PM (n/ubI)

412 Cash for Clunkers? That was 'playing nice'. **** Every time I see THIS my blood boils. I hate TFG. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waj2KrKYTZo

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 11, 2012 02:47 PM (piMMO)

413 Our only goal will be the Welfare shore!

Posted by: Led Assault and Battery at December 11, 2012 02:48 PM (vhwRj)

414 I think we have a grievance here.

Tony Cummings was not allowed to hit Steven Crowder.

It should have been left to the Joint Association of Boxers (I kid you not, look it up), a subsidiary of the Teamsters.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 11, 2012 02:49 PM (T0NGe)

415 Even with the media in the tank, and the FSA battalions on the march, I figured that an actual paper record for Obama's administration would be enough to change the course of the nation. The apologists are now arguing that we came very close and we have governors, legislatures, etc.so it wasn't that big a loss. I am now convinced that a long long winter is just around the corner and that the "US Spring" (TM) will not be coming anytime soon.

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 11, 2012 06:40 PM (Cnqmv)

I regard this last election as the tipping point. It is unrecoverable now.

Let it burn.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 11, 2012 02:49 PM (bb5+k)

416 >>>>>I sure hope Crowder sues the crap out of that guy.

I hope Crowder gets the guy in the ring. And I hope he gets the guy in the ring without an agreement on glove size.

Posted by: runninrebel at December 11, 2012 02:49 PM (je2hI)

417 Seriously, my next vehicle will be a 1930's or 40's era Ford truck that I can fix with a wrench, a hammer and duct tape. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. That's the thing. I trust the union goons to build a 30's or 40's -- maybe up to the mid 80's vehicle -- that would safely transport my family. Manual brakes, manual windows, manual steering, etc. This new stuff with enough electronics to penetrate the tin foil hat of a moonbat 10 miles away, one who is waiting for Hale-Bot to begin boarding, produced by reefer-smoking union dudes with a 'tude? I'll pass.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at December 11, 2012 02:49 PM (feFL6)

418 338 Of course, tactically, it's important to remember that private sector unions aren't our real enemy. It's the public sector unions -- the government unions -- that are the true cancer.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 11, 2012 06:22 PM (ZPrif)

________

PSUs are a bigger cancer. But private unions are still cancers. Every extra $1 union thugs get for being in a union is an extra $1 I have to pay for the product I'm buying. The longshoreman making $200K a year doesn't get paid by his union. He gets paid by consumers of the goods he unloads. Same with teamsters. Same with plumbers, electricians, painters, etc.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 11, 2012 02:50 PM (HDgX3)

419

I think we have a grievance here.

Tony Cummings was not allowed to hit Steven Crowder.

It should have been left to the Joint Association of Boxers (I kid you not, look it up), a subsidiary of the Teamsters.

Should he file that before or after all the lawsuits?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 11, 2012 02:50 PM (yiIja)

420 Because concomitant to the right to assemble is the right not to assemble.

Forced unionization violates the first and thirteenth amendments.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 11, 2012 02:51 PM (T0NGe)

421 Hmm... It's rejecting my message because it says it looks like spam. This is a test message. *** It could have a single word that's causing it to be flagged.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 11, 2012 02:51 PM (piMMO)

422 "411 Hitler tolerated unionists and socialists when politically expedient/convenient. Otto and Gregor Strasser organized and built the Northern German/Berlin socialist faction of the NSDAP. The brothersd advocated for change via violent, mass-action worker-based unionist attacks on traditional society. Hitler needed otto and gregor, without support from Berlin, Hitler was just a provincial loudmouth kook living in Bavaria. Wiki has a decent summary. Posted by: 13times at December 11, 2012 06:47 PM (h6XiD) " Um... Hitler was a Socialist (It's even in his fucking party's name). Or do you believe that Nazi Germany was some sort of Free-Market Utopia?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 11, 2012 02:51 PM (aLLUm)

423 Actually Jimmie, you may have a civil war right in your own union. How many of your members many to continue paying dues to support your bloated worthless existence?

Posted by: majorityofone at December 11, 2012 02:52 PM (HjtCj)

424
It could have a single word that's causing it to be flagged.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 11, 2012 06:51 PM (piMMO)

Not sure what it could have been. I simply mentioned that I was going to do the same thing as Alex the Chick, but with more detail.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 11, 2012 02:54 PM (bb5+k)

425 President Barack Obama says the U.S. now recognizes Syria's main opposition group as the "legitimate representative" of the country's people. Obama says the Syrian Opposition Council is now "inclusive enough" to be granted greater legitimacy in the international community. The president says that level of recognition comes with responsibility, including making sure the group organizes itself effectively and is committed to a political transition that respects the rights of women and minorities. The move paves the way for greater U.S. support as the group seeks the ouster of Syrian President Bashar Assad. Obama spoke in an interview with ABC News. I call that doubling down on stupid

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 11, 2012 02:54 PM (79ueO)

426 Did ya hear Beckel going on about those not paying union dues being paid the same wage? He was farookin pissed. Parasites, they. "Let them start out at minimum wage!" So, the unions. supposedly, achieve a pay that is fitting to the job to be done, yet... if someone not paying union wages does the same job, the job is worth less? Got it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 11, 2012 02:55 PM (piMMO)

427 Every time I see THIS my blood boils. I hate TFG. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 11, 2012 06:47 PM (piMMO) "Cash for Clunkers" was a bigger crime than most people realize. I mean, not only was it a legally-enforced Broken Windows Fallacy, but it was government debt money paid to induce people to destroy the used car market and run up more personal debt in a depression. How can you get more Cloward-Piven than that? Used car prices are just *starting* to come down and the bottom of the used car market was ripped out just as a lot of people really needed it. That was one of our Big Hints that the "paranoid loonies" were dead on.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 11, 2012 02:56 PM (bxiXv)

428 new thread up

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 11, 2012 02:57 PM (piMMO)

429
Um... Hitler was a Socialist (It's even in his fucking party's name). Or do you believe that Nazi Germany was some sort of Free-Market Utopia?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 11, 2012 06:51 PM (aLLUm)

You should read "Leftism Revisited" by Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn, and forwarded by William F. Buckley. He states that the Nazi Flags were originally made by sewing Swastikas over the Hammer and Sickle of the Communist party flags they used in previous demonstrations. That's why Nazi flags have a red background.

He pretty much traces the entire History of all known socialist movements and show how they evolve and interlink with each other throughout History. The Nazis and the Communists were originally the same group, which split into two factions. That's why they hated each other so virulently.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 11, 2012 02:59 PM (bb5+k)

430 428 arguing that Hitler was a socialist cuz it's in the name is like arguing Communist states are popular/democratic cuz "people's" in the name

Posted by: JDP at December 11, 2012 06:54 PM (60GaT)

It's a perfectly apt comparison. Hitler wanted people to believe that his party was socialist (and it was, there's no denying it) just like the Communist states want people to believe they're populist.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 11, 2012 02:59 PM (T0NGe)

431

Not a fan of punitive damages. You (and your lawyer) get to hit the jackpot because somebody "deserves" to be "punished"? I'd rather have "pain and suffering" or "psychological harm".
"Punitive" belongs in criminal court.
Posted by: AmishDude

Depending on the state, Amish, the client and lawyer don't get that big a chunk. For instance, in Oregon, the state gets 75% of the award and the lawyer can collect no more than 15% or so (I'd have to look it up). It's also taxable for the client.

it's not really a jackpot at that point, and as someone else mentioned, the State Farm case limits punitives to a single digit ratio (meaning no more than 9:1 punitive to compensatory damages). In physical injury or nominal damages cases, that ratio can be exceeded, but that is the exception, and the lion's share still goes to the state.

Posted by: imp at December 11, 2012 02:59 PM (UaxA0)

432 "Cash for Clunkers" was a bigger crime than most people realize. I mean, not only was it a legally-enforced Broken Windows Fallacy, but it was government debt money paid to induce people to destroy the used car market and run up more personal debt in a depression. How can you get more Cloward-Piven than that? Used car prices are just *starting* to come down and the bottom of the used car market was ripped out just as a lot of people really needed it. That was one of our Big Hints that the "paranoid loonies" were dead on. *** We subsidize the purchase of "green" cars for the wealthy but had a shitload of used cars that poor folks could have used to find work were destroyed. Instead, they became even more dependent upon the state as they were forced into public transport. It almost seems a crime against nature to take a working piece of machinery and destroy it. That poor Volvo, and a Ram truck in another video, simply refused to die. It was awful to watch.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 11, 2012 03:01 PM (piMMO)

433 That poor Volvo, and a Ram truck in another video, simply refused to die. It was awful to watch. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 11, 2012 07:01 PM (piMMO) Volvos are not that great, but that engine actually is. Could have saved someone else a metric fuckton of money if they did boff one up. Just seeing people destroy useful things - it's like some sort of sick perversion of civilization.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 11, 2012 03:04 PM (bxiXv)

434 Posted by: imp at December 11, 2012 06:59 PM (UaxA0)

Thanks for the info. That's good to know. Still it strikes me wrong as a means of the state getting a criminal prosecution without the burden of a criminal standard.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 11, 2012 03:06 PM (T0NGe)

435 Hitler was a whatever he needed to be at any given moment.

Ernst Rohm was a gay right wing fascist. SA/free-corps were a mishmash of right, left and anarchist psychopaths.

Strasser bros were hardcore socialists.

Night of the Long Knives saw to it that both Otto and Ernst Rohm got whacked.

Posted by: 13times at December 11, 2012 03:08 PM (h6XiD)

436 Can anyone tell me, when does the MI law take effect? And has Snyder signed it yet?

Posted by: entropy at December 11, 2012 03:09 PM (YUttk)

437 Not only did Cash For clunkers destroy a lot of usable machinery, it also had a ripple effect on the industries that maintenanced those vehicles, the suppliers of auto parts, the trqnsportation companies delivering part, the manufacturers of said parts and the economies that support them.

Call it a ripple effect, or unintended consequence, I guess. I saw first hand some of those effects.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 11, 2012 03:12 PM (SAMxH)

438 Can anyone tell me, when does the MI law take effect? And has Snyder signed it yet? **** he has signed it. I'm not certain when it takes effect.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 11, 2012 03:16 PM (piMMO)

439

Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy.

Do you want what your daddy got?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 11, 2012 03:26 PM (70Mth)

440 On the bright side, they didn't cut them up into little 5-pointed American stars and force the TEA Partiers to wear them as public identification. (See WZ sock link.)
Video: After Union Goons Destroy Conservative GroupÂ’s Tent, Teamster Thug Cuts Up Tent And Hands Out Pieces As SouvenirsÂ…

Posted by: andycanuck at December 11, 2012 03:34 PM (jPVBi)

441 When they start finding castrated, flayed Union thugs nailed to trees, I'm going to laugh. And no, this isn't a call for violence, it's a desire for popcorn.

Posted by: Silentbrick at December 11, 2012 03:46 PM (n6ULE)

442 I live in Michigan and I was pleasantly surprised at what the legislature & governor did. I say to Hoffa, bring it. Of course they will do nothing but make a lot of noise.

Posted by: Macaroon at December 11, 2012 04:45 PM (bw8pg)

443 Remember when using the word "target" was a conservative bad. And, it meant soliciting violence? Posted by: beach at December 11, 2012 05:07 PM (LpQbZ) I sometimes wonder if all the Palin haters here even do. Well,....other than the odd accent... that they don't recognize in themselves... sorta kinda....

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at December 11, 2012 04:53 PM (37aJJ)

444 BlowObama just had a lizard named after him...appropriate? uhhh anything else he should have named after him?

Posted by: If my Aunt had nuts she'd be my Uncle at December 11, 2012 04:54 PM (t2xha)

445 They'll have to bus in the people for a civil war. Right now they don't have enough to play solotaire.

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 11, 2012 06:00 PM (wSTfB)

446 Call it a ripple effect, or unintended consequence, I guess. I saw first hand some of those effects. Posted by: irongrampa at December 11, 2012 07:12 PM (SAMxH) It was sabotage.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 11, 2012 06:03 PM (bxiXv)

447

Jimmy Hoffa: We're Going To Have a "Civil War" in Michigan

Jimmy, may you sleep with your turd of a father. Soon.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 11, 2012 08:56 PM (4u2LN)

448 Oh my -- turned out Ace, you and morons all got punked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rt6I8BrQCVY No arrests; not even one. No even COMPLAINTS to the police; despite that a MSP officer was there on horseback right by the tent the whole time. No police report. No injuries. No COMPLAINTS of injuries. Y'all been punked (unless, of course, any of you actually WANTED to be punked like this).

Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at December 11, 2012 10:31 PM (21TJo)

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