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December 30, 2012

John Boehner Still Doesn't Get It
— DrewM

Obama rewarded David Gregory for flouting DC gun laws last week with an exclusive ~~chance to bash Republicans without being asked any tough questions~~ interview on Meet the Press today.

Following Obama's one-sided version of reality, Speaker of the House John Boehner went in front of the media to whine about Obama.

Â“Americans elected President Obama to lead, not cast blame," Boehner said in a Sunday statement. "The presidentÂ’s comments today are ironic, as a recurring theme of our negotiations was his unwillingness to agree to anything that would require him to stand up to his own party. Needed cuts and reforms that the president agreed to just last year were no longer on the table, as he cited an inability to sell them to Democrats."
Boehner continued: "Republicans made every effort to reach the Â‘balancedÂ’ deficit agreement that the president promised the American people, while the president has continued to insist on a package skewed dramatically in favor of higher taxes that would destroy jobs. WeÂ’ve been reasonable and responsible. The president is the one who has never been able to get to 'yes.'"

Shut up Mr. Speaker. Just SHUT UP.

I'd like to Boehner the benefit of the doubt and say this is his plan. The problem is, if it is his plan, it's a piss poor one.

Stop demanding the Obama "lead". He is leading! He won running on a tax hike for earners making $250,000. Does Boehner's idea of "leadership" include Obama unilaterally giving into the GOP even though by saying no to everything he gets what he wants automatically by going over the cliff (and as a bonus, he gets to blame Republicans for it)?

Obama maybe an idiot but he's not that stupid.

I can't tell if Boehner is stupid enough to believe that Obama wants some sort of compromise (spoiler, he doesn't) or he's too stupid to come up with a better counter message than whining like this.

In 1984 Ronald Reagan won with a much bigger mandate than Obama received this time around. Everyone loves to talk about how he a Tip O'Neil were able to come to a deal but that didn't just happen. O'Neil had a plan that involved actually making his case to the American people. So he put Dan Rostenkowski, Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee on TV to respond to a Reagan speech. "Write Rosty" became a national catchphrase that enabled O'Neil to get in the game.

Boehner wants to follow Obama's lead but the reality is he needs to stop trying to be a follower and become the leader of the opposition. He's clearly not up to the task.

Posted by: DrewM at 10:16 AM | Comments (86)
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1 First?

Posted by: The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth at December 30, 2012 10:20 AM (Hsgnv)

2 Time for him to go

Posted by: Unclezeb at December 30, 2012 10:20 AM (U5BaE)

3 oh well

Posted by: Soothsayer Riprock at December 30, 2012 10:22 AM (SaGLz)

4 Fiscal cliff, schismal cliff. As long as DC spends $1T more than it has we are utterly boned.

Posted by: The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth at December 30, 2012 10:22 AM (Hsgnv)

5 The least David Gregory could have done during his interview with The One, was wipe his lips and give his knees a rest.

What a fawning tool.

And Boehner: smoke a cig, have a drink, and STFU.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 10:22 AM (UOM48)

6 Boehner is a drunk, and a sniveling crybaby. How much weaker can a man be?

Posted by: beach at December 30, 2012 10:23 AM (LpQbZ)

7 Toughest question Gregory asked Preznit Choom:

"Mr. President, what charms you most about going into your second term?"

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 10:24 AM (UOM48)

8 Boehners offer all along should have been

1) Leave the top to rates unchanged. Cut the rest 2% points

2) Strip the stimulus from the base line

3) 10% across the board reduction in discretionary spending.

Pass it. Send it to the Senate and let Obama explain why taxing the "rich" is more important than cutting taxes for the middle class.

I'm done with all of the big brains in the Republican party.

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 30, 2012 10:24 AM (zOP5o)

9 Boehner doesn't get it. McConnell doesn't get it. Lindsey Graham doesn't get it. Marco Rubio doesn't get it. Jeb Bush doesn't get it. None of them get it.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 30, 2012 10:24 AM (HDgX3)

10 Choomer said the worst day of his presidency was the day of the Newtown massacre.

Guess he's totally forgotten the 13 troops slaughtered at Ft. Hood by a crazed Muzzie.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 10:25 AM (UOM48)

11 It would seem Boehner is doing what many keep saying he should do, get HIS side of the situation out there. It may not be language that really tells the story, but it makes a good sound bite for the low-info voter out there. Perhaps there is a smidgen of a chance that some of the blame for the problem will land on the dems and Obama.

Wait, hahahahaha!

Posted by: museisluse at December 30, 2012 10:25 AM (SsWgR)

12 Ugh! Boehner shouldn't even mention TFG name, just tell the American people the federal beast has grown too much in the last four years, that we can no longer afford to feed it. Period. Trying to tax more to feed the growing beast will only increase it's appetite and will create another problem. Talk to TFG's voters on the idiot level that they can relate to.

Posted by: Deli LLama at December 30, 2012 10:27 AM (lGu1O)

13 Boehner need to let this crap deal happen and then make sure that Obama owns it....quit trying to help this egomaniac.

Posted by: jjshaka at December 30, 2012 10:28 AM (PHZFs)

14 11 It would seem Boehner is doing what many keep saying he should do, get HIS side of the situation out there. It may not be language that really tells the story, but it makes a good sound bite for the low-info voter out there. Perhaps there is a smidgen of a chance that some of the blame for the problem will land on the dems and Obama.

Wait, hahahahaha!

Low information/Barky voter: "I wonder if I can get a new Obamaphone in pink?"

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 10:28 AM (UOM48)

15 All my life I've been wishing for a unicorn. By unicorn I mean a mythical speaker of the house that would advance the case for reducing the debt limit.

Posted by: Gordon undead Ramsay at December 30, 2012 10:28 AM (9HhTH)

16 Boehner .... A. Blithering idiot B. Double agent C. Always drunk D. All of the above

Posted by: John Stark Dark at December 30, 2012 10:29 AM (0JB89)

17 Bigfoot riding a unicorn for speaker of the house.

Posted by: Butters at December 30, 2012 10:30 AM (NIZHJ)

18 And you you know what I find hysterical, if you go to the official democratic swag store they have crying Boehner beer warmers.

Your a laughingstock John!

RESIGN!

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 30, 2012 10:33 AM (zOP5o)

19 What the fuck is the point of this post?

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 30, 2012 10:33 AM (KhZSt)

20 DrewM, you suffer from the problem of most conservatives.

First, you say "Why can't Republicans play the PR game?"

Then when they do, you say "Why are Republicans playing the PR game, why don't they tell the unvarnished truth?"

"Write Rosty" did nothing. O'Neil got "in the game" for the same reason Obama can: (1) His appeal is emotional to who "gets" stuff, there is no math or reality and (2) He was perfectly happy with no deal.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 30, 2012 10:33 AM (xSegX)

21 Is this a drinking game? I want over the cliff. Any deal before then will be bad. And we get spending cuts for free. And if we had a speaker with a clue, then after we get over, the house is dismissed for a month, and the speaker points to all the bills the house passed to get this done. Meanwhile we get spending cuts. No, not good ones, but you have to start some where. Did I mention the spending cuts? Yes, I will pay higher taxes, and hire fewer people at my firm next year. Did I mention the spending cuts? We get that for free. Over the fucking cliff we go. Don't stop us Boehner. We need to do this.

Posted by: Joe in MI at December 30, 2012 10:34 AM (3R8wQ)

22 Boehner knows exactly what he's doing. He's giving just enough of a push to make his constituency believe he represents them but not enough of a push to put any real pressure on the democrats. Like I was saying last night. In a pro wrestling match, it's supposed to look like a contest, but both guys are there to put on the same show. They know how the match is supposed to end. The "loser" puts up a good show, but he goes down in the end. That's what's happening in Washington right now. Boehner is putting Obama over the top to the crowd. Don't be a rube and believe he thinks he's supposed to "win." It's not in the script.

Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 30, 2012 10:35 AM (I2LwF)

23 I'm sick and tired of cliff hanging. Let's. Just. Go.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 10:35 AM (UOM48)

24 It would seem Boehner is doing what many keep saying he should do, get HIS side of the situation out there.

"Everything Boehner does is wrong, especially when he listens to us."

What the fuck is the point of this post?

To complain about Boehner complaining.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 30, 2012 10:36 AM (xSegX)

25 When I first heard that statement by Boner my first thought was "Obama is leading". He's leadfing us right into the ditch because the FSA, with the aid of the MFM, voted him back in.

Where does he get his talking points? Must be the trash can in a downtown gas station bathroom. I wonder how he got elected?

What he should have said is "Obama doesn't want a deal and if you people in the press would actually start questioning him instead of felating his balls you would see it".

But I guess that is too much to ask for.

Posted by: Vic at December 30, 2012 10:36 AM (53z96)

26 Posted by: AmishDude at December 30, 2012 02:33 PM (xSegX)

You're wrong. I've been arguing for awhile that we need to accept the modern facts of life and appeal to emotion. Telling voters they are making decisions on the wrong criteria is stupid and a guaranteed way to lose.

I want more PR sops, I just want effective ones.

Posted by: DrewM. at December 30, 2012 10:37 AM (AR+tO)

27 Hey Drew, I like your latest tweets. Of course all of this is the wretched Tea Party's fault. Can you expound on that claim here for us? Thank you and be brave.

Posted by: Libtardo at December 30, 2012 10:37 AM (1CULz)

28
I don't even know why anymore, but I am rooting for the cliff....er.....hump. I think it is just a better deal as far as expense cutting than we could ever get.

What Boehner needs to realize is that this is not a "crisis" where "something must be done", this can be solved in March or April and tax rates retroactive back to Jan. 1. If the repubs had any guts they would realize that and negotiate the best deal, but doing it in a day is stupid.

Nevertheless, 95% of the people in congress care about themselves, their power and their graft more than the country, so I expect a good hard backside boning for all of us about 10pm tomorrow night.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 30, 2012 10:37 AM (69Mdf)

29 @23 +1 A cliff song Hi ho, Hi ho, Its over the fucking cliff we go to inflation and insolvency we'll ease quantitatively Hi ho, Hi ho! No deal. Over we go. Budget cuts across the board. We need that. Tax hikes, not so much, but we can make the dems and president own them.

Posted by: Joe in MI at December 30, 2012 10:38 AM (3R8wQ)

30 I want more PR sops, I just want effective ones.

You're starting to sound like Pat Caddell. He always has the right answers, just ask him.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 30, 2012 10:39 AM (xSegX)

31 I'd impeach Boehner and replace him with Representative Rush Limbaugh of the Lump on a Log Caucus.

Posted by: Sharron Akin O'Mourdock at December 30, 2012 10:39 AM (r2PLg)

32 Posted by: Libtardo at December 30, 2012 02:37 PM (1CULz)

Because insisting on tying a debt hike to spending cuts with a Democratic Senate and Obama in the White House was idiotic. It was never going to produce anything we actually wanted.

Look at what we "won"....

-A two year extension of the tax cuts that put us here (should have been 1 year, 4 years or none).

-The cuts we're going to get are mostly in defense and don't touch entitlements.

How was signing on to that a good idea at the time or in hindsight?

Posted by: DrewM. at December 30, 2012 10:40 AM (AR+tO)

33 Yeah it's those darn pesky Tea Partiers who campaigned and won on a platform of fiscal responsibility who gave the house to the GOP and now must renounce their principles because - Reality!!

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 30, 2012 10:40 AM (zOP5o)

34 I, for one, am giddy that our hard-working Betters are getting pay increases, thanks to Dear Leader. Especially Joe Biden. He can hire someone now to tie his shoes for him.

We are unworthy of our new aristocracy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 10:40 AM (UOM48)

35 Boner should be pushing take this budget are none.

S.I.D. and tell Obama to ESAD.

Posted by: Vic at December 30, 2012 10:42 AM (53z96)

36
If there are any true conservatives in congress left, all they have to say is 'obama wants middle class tax rates to go up' over and over. No matter the question. Someone in the MFM will show the video at some point.

It being true is just a side benefit.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 30, 2012 10:43 AM (69Mdf)

37 @32 Any spending reductions now, even in needed programs are good. We can shift around the remaining budgets later. Start cutting and don't look back. And if this leaves us without a military, we can do a very simple guns-and-butter economic 30 second advert that fixes that. Appeal to the people by showing them what their dear leader has wraught.

Posted by: Joe in MI at December 30, 2012 10:43 AM (3R8wQ)

38 I love you, Jane.

Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 30, 2012 10:43 AM (I2LwF)

39 I want my
I want my
'bama phone

Posted by: sTevo at December 30, 2012 10:43 AM (VMcEw)

40 >>> What the fuck is the point of this post? It's an experiment? Drewm is testing how many times he can dip from the same well and still draw the exact same responses.

Posted by: Soothsayer Riprock at December 30, 2012 10:44 AM (NLH1M)

40 still draw the exact same responses.

such as BEARS WIN!!!!?

Posted by: navycopjoe at December 30, 2012 10:45 AM (gwUmL)

42 Let it go over the cliff, we are already over it, an additional 70 billion per year ain't gonna cut it. We are broke, wait until interest rates start creeping up... all hell is going to break loose, 2008 is going to look like a small ripple compared to the fiscal/debt tsunami headed our way.
Let it Burn.

Sold all my business before Jan. 1. Done. and as Ayn Rand's philosophy, "Go John Gault".

No more creating wealth, jobs, nothing, just so Barry and his socialist dems can spread my hard work around. Starve the big govt beast, which is exactly what will happen, 100% guaranteed.

Posted by: johnc_ex-dem at December 30, 2012 10:46 AM (3Kxux)

43 I don't remember anyone complaining when it happened. Then again I don't remember what I had for breakfast this morning.

Posted by: Libtardo at December 30, 2012 10:47 AM (aqj6v)

44 @36

Yeah all it would have taken is for Boehner to offer to hold the line on taxes on the top two rates and cut the rest even 1% point.

Then at every interview you repeat ad-infinitum that a base principle of the Republican Party is that we do not raise taxes period, we are a party of low taxation. We have given the middle class a tax cut why is it more important for the President to punish the rich than reward the middle class?

This really, really isn't very hard.

I am slowly coming around to the fact that the GOP really is in bed with the Democrat party to simply act as "opposition"

Nothing else can explain this level of gross incompetence!

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 30, 2012 10:48 AM (zOP5o)

45 Love you back, Truman. I'll share a bit of my gruel with you in the camps.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 10:49 AM (UOM48)

46 New drinking game: Everytime either Reid or Boehner come out any external media, not twitter or FB, but externally published, you drink following the formula below: Reid talking: * Negative points about deal = shot of tequila * Mumbling strained agreement with GOP = 2oz crappy beer Boehner talking * Negative points about deal = 2oz good beer * Caving in to dems = shot of vodka We should be dead of alcohol poisoning by the end of the day.

Posted by: Joe in MI at December 30, 2012 10:49 AM (3R8wQ)

47 where's Dildo Brown? maybe he can post about the contents of his cupboards or what he had for dinner today

Posted by: Soothsayer Riprock at December 30, 2012 10:50 AM (BUcLz)

48 Negotiations go something like this

Democrats: Give us 100 X.

Republicans: No way man. We'll give you 20 at best.

Democrats: RACIST!!

Republicans: OK, OK, OK, we'll give you 70

Democrats: 90 and that's our final offer, PS RACIST!!

Republicans: How about 95 and we call it a day? Isn't bipartisanship awesome America?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 30, 2012 10:50 AM (HDgX3)

49 The tax rates should have been made permanent somewhere along the line. Not sure if anyone can blame the Teabaggerz for that.

Posted by: Libtardo at December 30, 2012 10:50 AM (aqj6v)

50
We should be dead of alcohol poisoning by the end of the day.

Posted by: Joe in MI at December 30, 2012 02:49 PM (3R8wQ

Sounds like a plan. If I survive the next four years under Choomer, a Hildebeast presidency in 2016 will kill me.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 10:51 AM (UOM48)

51 Libtardo, we were all apoplectic when it happened. I wrote an op Ed here over it.

Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 30, 2012 10:51 AM (I2LwF)

52 Has the House passed a bill?

It's only whining of Boehner can't get a bill passed in the House. If he compromised with Obama, and then the Senate shit the bed, let them own it. Pass a f*cking bill.

Boehner needs to put the blinders on, focus on POTUS and the House, and leave all Senate contingency considerations/permutations out of his pea-sized brain.

Pass a f*cking bill.

Posted by: Fritz at December 30, 2012 10:52 AM (w3+gB)

53 Like I was saying last night. In a pro wrestling match, it's supposed to look like a contest, but both guys are there to put on the same show. They know how the match is supposed to end. The "loser" puts up a good show, but he goes down in the end.

"I want all those Boehner-maniacs to smoke their cigs, drink their rotgut and say a prayer to the big guy in DC. And watch as I pretend to fight those 18 inch pythons, the largest entitlements in the world, before going home to the tanning booth. Watcha gonna do when Boehner-mania runs wild on your concepts of good government".

Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny 2013 return tour?) at December 30, 2012 10:53 AM (txCfk)

54 I may have had a bowl of Capn Crunch. Perhaps Froot Loops. This was when, 2011? May as well have been 1981. Just speaking of myself, of course.

Posted by: Libtardo at December 30, 2012 10:54 AM (aqj6v)

55 Oh! Watching Don Giovanni on YouTube is sooo much fun I know you think you don't like opera... Undead statues that can drag a man to Hell!

Posted by: Deety at December 30, 2012 10:54 AM (aOVhq)

56 Boehner's big win was proposing to spend $20B less per year than Obama's opening offer was spending, and then getting that $20B bargained down to literally zero in new cuts.

Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 30, 2012 10:55 AM (I2LwF)

57 Watched "The Italian Job" again last night. At one point Wahlberg's character (Charlie) says to Norton's (Steve): "Same old Steve huh? Always thinking defensively. That's why you're always number two.". Sums up Boehner pretty well I think.

Posted by: steve walsh at December 30, 2012 10:55 AM (tsJkx)

58 Dice Clay wasn't talking about Boehner when he said, "He's a jerk-off, that's what I think!!" but he could have been.
Take the cliff, Pubbies. Best deal we'll get. Good practice for dealing with the abyss that's not too far down the road.

Posted by: mallfly at December 30, 2012 10:55 AM (bJm7W)

Obama says he will put his full weight behind gun control: http://tinyurl.com/axp3t5r on Meet the Press With Gregory who still hasn't been charged with possession.

Posted by: DAve, who gets a cut of all internet gun sales at December 30, 2012 10:58 AM (XDC0v)

60 @42 +1 I salute you my good fellow citizen. Sometimes the right thing to do is the painful thing to do, and will piss off lots of people. But its still the right thing to do. State of Michigan is getting friendlier for business while the Feds are doing everything in their power to drive us small guys out of business. At some point, many of us are going to say "fuck it". That point has happened for quite a few I know. The MSM has been absolutely silent on this, but many of us small business folks have been talking. Like a disease wasting the body away, you won't see the symptoms of this happening until it is too late to recover. When the drive to create wealth disappears because the feds want to redistribute what you earn, your ability to pull out of the tailspin you find yourself in, has vanished. Thats when Going Galt happens en masse.

Posted by: Joe in MI at December 30, 2012 11:01 AM (3R8wQ)

61 What Boehner should have done IMO is propose keeping all tax rate as is and adding an extra $500 to the tax child credit. Then every day afterwards the only talking point by Republicans would be, why do Obama and Harry Reid want to take $500 per child away from hard working mothers and fathers across the country? $500 buys clothes for children. $500 buys medicine for children. Why do Obama and Reid want to keep children without new clothes and badly needed medicine?

That's how you win these battles. Appeal to the rawest form of emotion. It's the old "do it for the children" bullshit liberals use all the time effectively.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 30, 2012 11:01 AM (HDgX3)

62 Oh, that's so terrible when Don Giovanni gets dragged down to hell by the statue! Usually it comes off comic

Posted by: Deety at December 30, 2012 11:01 AM (aOVhq)

63 Soothsayer

Do you ever contribute anything other than bitching?

Posted by: DrewM. at December 30, 2012 11:04 AM (AR+tO)

Should have followed Rand Pauls LIB strategy from the start.

Let Obama have everything.

Pubes in the Senate vote no.

Pubes in the house vote present.

Let the Dems own the flames.

Now we're gonna get virtually the same thing but the Pubes will own it.

Posted by: Lt. Smokey of the LIB Brigade at December 30, 2012 11:04 AM (iBaja)

65 re 61: and that shit face Harry Reid et al will come right back with "we all know the Republicans don't care about anyone who isn't rich" and the libs in the MSM will be happy to take him seriously.

Posted by: mallfly at December 30, 2012 11:04 AM (bJm7W)

66 And still no mention of Cloward/Piven and its connection to marxist cliff diving.

Neville Boehner just wants to sue for a separate piece.

Posted by: ontherocks at December 30, 2012 11:04 AM (aZ6ew)

67
Posted by: General Woundwort at December 30, 2012 02:48 PM (zOP5o)

Yep, it would be awesome to here repubs say "we have to cut taxes to make up for the obamacare tax increaseses".

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 30, 2012 11:04 AM (69Mdf)

68 I like Drew hammering the issues he finds to be the best debate fodder. I also like Soothsayer's bitching. It reminds me of home.

Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 30, 2012 11:07 AM (I2LwF)

69 re 62: now that I think about it, Obama as Don Giovanni, Biden as Leparello, and Moochelle as Donna Elvira could be quite entertaining. Especially if the statue pulled them all down to hell. Then Boehner could cry.

Posted by: mallfly at December 30, 2012 11:07 AM (bJm7W)

70 why so butthurt?

Posted by: Soothsayer Riprock at December 30, 2012 11:12 AM (juEtX)

71 re 70: well, when I was a boy, my father said to me, "Andrew, we Sullivans are different, you know..."

Posted by: mallfly at December 30, 2012 11:18 AM (bJm7W)

72 Soothsayer

I'll take that as a no.

I hope you're more useful in real life than you are here.

Posted by: DrewM. at December 30, 2012 11:20 AM (AR+tO)

73 This is all part of the plan. They ie Democrats tossed it in and cried "let it burn" when they lost in 2004 and have been working to make it from then. As always they do it slow and worked more on the after the fire plan than a plan to fix the current system. They have a old made new system of what to make the world after the US becomes Greece and are ready for it. This cliff is just one part.

Well now it time to let them have it. And then work on little pockets of America where the seeds to rebuild the whole are made. Work local when they want global. Then when the global goes down the seeds will be there.

Posted by: Trevor (@tjexcite) at December 30, 2012 11:21 AM (Ea64Y)

74 How about Boehner comes out and says something like: Democrats lie. They lie all the time. Democrats will even lie when the truth will do. Remember when Harry Reid lied about Mitt Romney, saying he had evidence Romney was a tax cheat? Where's Harry Reid's evidence? He never had it. He lied. And for no good reason. Democrats lie. They always lie, they lie to everyone. Democrats out in America need to come to terms with the irrefutable fact that their Democrat leaders are lying to them. Democrats tell big lies when little lies will do. Remember when President Obama lied and said doctors were amputating children's feet instead of treating them? He could have simply said he didn't think care was good enough. But he pulled out the biggest whopper of his presidency to trick you into supporting Oabamacare. Democrats are lying to you now. The big lie now is that Republicans don't want what's good for the country. They are lying when they tell you they do. They don't and they are lying to your face. The truth is, Democrats are enslaving black children under a debt they will never repay. They are enslaving poor children in substandard schools. Democrats are lying when they say taking away your gun will make you safer and keep you free. And they are lying to you when they tell you that you can get the amount of government you want if we just raise taxes on other people. President Obama is coming after you. He will take your money that you earned and spend it in ways you would never want it spent. He will use the IRS and the EPA and a hundred other government bureaucracies to steal your freedom and your future. And Congressional Democrats are in lockstep behind him to steal from you and to steal from America. He's lying to you. Because Democrats always lie. And I will not accept any deal that favors what they want because what they want is bad for America and America's children. Today, the house has passed a budget that America can afford and we've adjourned for the session. The president and his followers can pass the budget as is or they can be responsible for the worst tragedy of Federal government in living memory. We'll see you all in 2013. --- That's all just off the top of my head, so...

Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 30, 2012 11:21 AM (I2LwF)

75 Ugh.

Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 30, 2012 11:23 AM (I2LwF)

76 >>>Ugh.

I would expect this from Boehner. Is this the alternative rant?

Posted by: Fritz at December 30, 2012 11:27 AM (w3+gB)

77 Given how our press corp is currently constituted there is quite literally nothing Boehner can do to change the narrative.

The problem with giving the Dems everything they like is that they will increase spending and keep tax rates the same (except for those paid by job creators) in the name of "stimulus" thus creating an artificial bubble (or at least cushion) so that it can burst under someone else's watch. This is EXACTLY what happened with the mortgage meltdown. The GOP lost when they did not explain how that was all created on Clinton's watch. As a result the country just voted to do it all over again.

I think the best plan would be to just shut the government down for the next two years and see how things go from there. If you are going to get blamed then at least get blamed for doing something that has to be done... hold the line on spending and make the government live within its means since it can no longer borrow. Be the adults and end the reckless spending for at least a brief, shining moment of time. For once in their God forsaken lives just put the politics aside and do what has to be done... shut the thing down.

If you aren't willing to nuke the place like Obama is then you aren't going to win. He literally does not give a shit and the press will cover for him right up to the gates of hell and beyond.

Posted by: Voluble at December 30, 2012 11:28 AM (qYvEa)

78 There seems to be a pretty fair understanding of what we're up against with the marxists.

The problem is how to rid ourselves of the phony opposition party that is run by the traditional GOP effete and their manner of internally electing more of the same to their leadership and bypassing Tea Party Reps.

Posted by: ontherocks at December 30, 2012 11:32 AM (aZ6ew)

79 I also like Soothsayer's bitching. It reminds me of home. Mrs928 keeps summoning me to beat and then make up the hippy bed while I'm trying to relax, watching my football picks go down in flames. Her voice is pitching up in irritation.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 30, 2012 11:35 AM (QupBk)

80 Your Moron pal, Truman North@74,

Cut. Jib. Newsletter. Much better than Peggy Noonan's one line in a Reagan speech decades ago.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 30, 2012 11:36 AM (eHIJJ)

81 If you are going to get blamed then at least get blamed for doing something that has to be done... hold the line on spending and make the government live within its means since it can no longer borrow. I think that Barry would just give some Lincolnesque speech about the Constitution not being a suicide pact and order the treasury to pay out without authority, borrowing the money from Gaithner, while defying the Congress to impeach. Then the dollar will crash, which appears to be his objective anyway.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 30, 2012 11:38 AM (QupBk)

82 Drew, you hit it and passed it by in your last paragraph: "he needs to stop trying to be a follower and become the leader of the opposition". We don't yet have an opposition party in this country. I'm hoping to see one arise Real Soon Now. We need it. Remocrats and Depublicans (thanks, WSJ!) are the two halves of the New Feudalism Party, and any opposition between them is just a show for the suckers.

Posted by: skim milk masquerades as cream at December 30, 2012 12:44 PM (jNNWD)

83 Boehner wants to follow Obama's lead but the reality is he needs to stop trying to be a follower and become the leader of the opposition. He's clearly not up to the task.

That much has been painfully obvious for the better-part of a year. At least. And the same goes in spades for Mushy Mitch.

Posted by: DocJ at December 30, 2012 03:12 PM (V20sy)

84 22 Boehner knows exactly what he's doing. He's giving just enough of a push to make his constituency believe he represents them but not enough of a push to put any real pressure on the democrats. - This. Barack Obama goes for the Fiscal Cliff Drop. John Boehner slams to the canvas, bounces up, and staggers around the ring appealing to the audience for pity. The press with the megaphones chants "All your fault! All your fault!" And in a way it is. This predicament is one that respectable, mainstream, "electable" Republicans set up earlier. This is their game, which the respectable electable of the Republican Party loves to play: the agree to stuff that guarantees victory for liberalism in the long run (but not right now), and pooh-pooh alarmism (hey, there is no immediate danger); then they wait for the audience, that is the suckers, that is the right wing base that they pander to but don't really represent, to forget who set up this hopeless predicament. Then comes inevitable defeat, which they bravely accept, because at this point there are no good alternatives so they won't be blamed too much for giving in. And the ultimate outcome is acceptable to them because they are liberals, just relatively right-wing ones that prefer a slower rate of change. It's like that on fiscal matters, and the size of government, and on mass immigration and affirmative action (and all the issues related to that), and just about all social issues (as decades go by with pro-lifers getting no joy), and the war of terror (which the mainstream never conducted in good faith, and continuing immigration from Islamic countries is the proof of it), and with the left wing mass media (which the faux-conservatives have never really taken on, financially, and which they still "credential" by letting them moderate Republican debates), and on intellectual property laws, and across the board. The respectable right does not take on liberal causes and organizations. When the right does relatively well on an issue, it is because that issue is being defended by organizations that want to win, like the NRA. When you win, you act completely differently from the respectable "electable" mainstream of the Republican Party. You act like the gun lobby organizations. You try to build your base, and you concede nothing and you plan to win every issue in the long run.

Posted by: The Lightworker at December 30, 2012 05:59 PM (xvDoF)

85 "Boehner wants to follow Obama's lead but the reality is he needs to stop trying to be a follower and become the leader of the opposition. He's clearly not up to the task."

You're not just barely noticing this, are you?

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at December 30, 2012 09:37 PM (A3ftE)

86 The Repulican party strategy operated under the assumption that the legacy media was declining in strength yearly and as such the Repulicans just had to hunker down and wait them out. Unfortunately the legacy media rallied so what's the point. Honestly what is the point when the media acts as an appendage of the left wing party. The problem with a middle class party is that it consists of the people who can least afford to wait around and play for the next conflict. A rich poor alliance backed by media hegemony is unbeatable except on populist cultural grounds. Economics is too complicated to get people to pay attention. The just think what the last Middle Aged white guy on tv tells them to think.

Posted by: tennvols87 at December 30, 2012 10:25 PM (Tqh1Y)

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