November 06, 2012
— Ace He makes a good case for Ohio, but Florida is looking kind of bad.
Still. It's actually not over.
My 348 Electoral vote prediction? Yeah, I was wayyyy off.
Update: Karl Rove and Joe Trippi agree: Romney still has a narrow path -- requiring some breaks -- and they can win the whole election.
Update: We were finally called as winning North Carolina.
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Posted by: logprof at November 06, 2012 06:30 PM (jKE+Z)
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Posted by: Winkie Woo at November 06, 2012 06:31 PM (+E0Nf)
Posted by: NWConservative at November 06, 2012 06:31 PM (M1gmo)
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Posted by: ROIGuy at November 06, 2012 06:32 PM (7YnaR)
Posted by: Restless at November 06, 2012 06:32 PM (2glPh)
-Greg
Posted by: Shiggz RoketSturgeon at November 06, 2012 06:32 PM (RfvTE)
Posted by: R&R to the Rescue at November 06, 2012 06:32 PM (YhYZD)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 06, 2012 06:32 PM (i0App)
Posted by: Travis at November 06, 2012 06:32 PM (9WkMB)
Posted by: Winkie Woo at November 06, 2012 06:32 PM (+E0Nf)
Posted by: Jmel at November 06, 2012 06:32 PM (c+D8V)
Posted by: Texas Flukr at November 06, 2012 06:32 PM (pQenv)
Posted by: GuyfromNH at November 06, 2012 06:32 PM (kbOju)
Posted by: ROIGuy at November 06, 2012 06:32 PM (7YnaR)
Posted by: Texas Ranger at November 06, 2012 06:32 PM (IvvrO)
Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at November 06, 2012 06:32 PM (J6kXj)
Posted by: harleycowboy at November 06, 2012 06:33 PM (wSTfB)
May not be a reverse, but it's enough to say that the media should get the hell out of "projecting" and just report the vote totals from the SOS offices in each district.
Plus I am getting the distinct impression that Fox is holding the numbers back in order to keep us watching longer.
Screw this. I am cancelling my satellite and will get news from internet. This is crap.
Posted by: Miss Marple at November 06, 2012 06:33 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at November 06, 2012 06:33 PM (J6kXj)
For fucks sake, people were still VOTING.
Posted by: Serious Cat at November 06, 2012 06:33 PM (zrpqj)
Posted by: Winkie Woo at November 06, 2012 06:33 PM (+E0Nf)
Posted by: LASue at November 06, 2012 06:34 PM (gjIQF)
Posted by: Ben Franklin at November 06, 2012 06:34 PM (i/eBR)
Posted by: tcn at November 06, 2012 06:34 PM (VLG62)
Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at November 06, 2012 06:34 PM (Ea64Y)
I love ya, but yeah.
Still, I'm not counting Romney out yet. I think it'll be after midnight before we know.
Posted by: tdpwells at November 06, 2012 06:34 PM (01otU)
Ah well, looks like it's off the cliff fast instead of off the cliff slow.
This will get interesting over the next several years.
Posted by: Meremortal at November 06, 2012 06:34 PM (1Y+hH)
...and the Church needs to start handing out excommunications--Pelosi, Biden, Sebelius, and so on down the line....
Posted by: Palandine at November 06, 2012 06:34 PM (g7D8V)
Posted by: kawfytawk at November 06, 2012 06:34 PM (JWLqy)
Posted by: tommy at November 06, 2012 06:34 PM (Ufxn1)
Posted by: ELKomandante at November 06, 2012 06:34 PM (9Fjmj)
Posted by: Winkie Woo at November 06, 2012 06:34 PM (+E0Nf)
Posted by: SGT Dan at November 06, 2012 06:35 PM (dqSmk)
Posted by: Killface at November 06, 2012 06:35 PM (dr0xf)
Posted by: Looking closely at November 06, 2012 10:34 PM (+PDlV)
Feelin that way about VA as well.
Posted by: tdpwells at November 06, 2012 06:35 PM (01otU)
Posted by: AltonJackson at November 06, 2012 06:35 PM (JMmQ9)
Okay, Ace, now I want to know WHY you were wrong. Earlier, you summed up nicely why the projections couldn't be right. Why it didn't add up. Well, so...why doesn't it? Something's not right here.
Posted by: S. Weasel at November 06, 2012 06:35 PM (YOBrO)
Posted by: Milesdei at November 06, 2012 06:35 PM (Iljdt)
Posted by: Gordon undead Ramsay at November 06, 2012 06:35 PM (9HhTH)
Posted by: tcn at November 06, 2012 10:34 PM (VLG62)
Need some badger experts in here. How close should Dane be to get optimistic?
Posted by: Red Shirt at November 06, 2012 06:35 PM (FIDMq)
Posted by: Sarahw at November 06, 2012 06:35 PM (LYwCh)
Posted by: BrianInWisconsin at November 06, 2012 06:35 PM (MsOp2)
What. The. Fuck.
Allow me to repeat myself - what the fuck?
I got up a few minutes ago, turned on the radio to hear the local overnight talk guy say "looks like a good night for Democrats here in Massachusetts - they've taken back Ted Kennedy's seat and Obama has another four years."
How the fuck did this happen? All of this "biggest lines I've ever seen" tweets, all of the on-the-ground enthusiasm, all of the lack of enthusiasm among the Chocolate Crackhead's voters since 2008 and we still lose? Were all of our number and poll breakdowns that off and the bastards at Rasmussen and Gallup right?
What the fuck is wrong with this goddamn country?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 06, 2012 06:35 PM (gTyBq)
Revolution (by peaceful means of course) is declaring that they are wrong and we will show them why.
Posted by: Jcw46 at November 06, 2012 06:35 PM (SP4jC)
Posted by: Texas Ranger at November 06, 2012 06:35 PM (IvvrO)
The American people are well and truly fucked.
When SHTF, this country will not know what hit them. That is okay too. A good lot of them need to be eliminated apparently.
Posted by: NWConservative at November 06, 2012 06:35 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: someguy at November 06, 2012 06:35 PM (sEXZ/)
I could still see wins in FL, OH, CO, WI, but it will be tight.
Romney "blowout" is out.
Posted by: Looking closely at November 06, 2012 06:35 PM (+PDlV)
Posted by: Evilpens at November 06, 2012 06:36 PM (ck76k)
Posted by: Jeanne the Obscure at November 06, 2012 06:36 PM (pgeQy)
Posted by: BrianInWisconsin at November 06, 2012 10:35 PM (MsOp2)
Have to start watching to keep watching....F the TV media...ALL OF EM
Posted by: Red Shirt at November 06, 2012 06:36 PM (FIDMq)
Posted by: America Fuck Yeah! at November 06, 2012 06:36 PM (v/itI)
Posted by: Sarahw at November 06, 2012 10:35 PM (LYwCh)
obama has the lead right now,,,
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 06:36 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 06, 2012 06:36 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: schizoid at November 06, 2012 06:36 PM (feRPT)
Posted by: Dan at November 06, 2012 06:36 PM (/7gN/)
Its more pervasive than you can imagine. Coast to coast.
We are done as a sovereign nation.
Posted by: George Patton at November 06, 2012 06:36 PM (qBLA2)
Obama is leading and the bulk of the vote that is out is Obama-friendly.
It's a mix, of course, but I think there is still 40% of, for example, Miami-Dade left.
Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 06:36 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Don Coreleone at November 06, 2012 06:37 PM (yJYwC)
Posted by: Natasha at November 06, 2012 06:37 PM (pyYXJ)
Posted by: Tommy V at November 06, 2012 10:37 PM (ZYlKz)
Yes...
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 06:37 PM (9+ccr)
I am warrior and frankly fighting leftists on defense is lonely and hopeless. This way we can stay on recruitment/offense for another 4 years. Not only that Obama and moochelle will be pariahs the world over, where as if they lost this election the institutional left would rewrite history to make him the victim of circumstances.
Posted by: Shiggz RoketSturgeon at November 06, 2012 06:37 PM (RfvTE)
Posted by: Manolo at November 06, 2012 06:37 PM (PttbO)
Posted by: MrX at November 06, 2012 06:37 PM (PxmNZ)
I'm going all Pvt. Hudson in Aliens at this point.
GAME OVER, MAN!
Posted by: The Q at November 06, 2012 06:37 PM (w4fEE)
Posted by: Evilpens at November 06, 2012 06:38 PM (ck76k)
Posted by: ATLDiver at November 06, 2012 06:38 PM (rCsM0)
Posted by: Red Shirt at November 06, 2012 10:35 PM (FIDMq)
Not an expert, but Dane County does not reflect the rest of the state. It is a sea of commies in an otherwise relatively sane state, with the exception of the Bama Fo people in Milwaukee. Even counting Dane, so far the numbers say R/R and bye-bye Tammy Baldwin. So, why in hell are they counting it the other way on the networks?
Posted by: tcn at November 06, 2012 06:38 PM (VLG62)
Posted by: P. Aaron at November 06, 2012 06:38 PM (QGgxb)
Peggy Noonan can blow me.
Fucking scrunt. She's probably blown through a dozen pairs of panties already creaming in the knowledge she'll still be able to attend all those fancy Georgetown parties.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 06, 2012 06:38 PM (gTyBq)
Posted by: Texas Ranger at November 06, 2012 06:39 PM (IvvrO)
Going to look around for a pill that will put me to sleep for 4 years, though by that point I'm not even sure a Rep can even win.
Posted by: Tyler at November 06, 2012 06:39 PM (cynHT)
Posted by: loijal at November 06, 2012 06:39 PM (u3N3z)
Posted by: 80sBaby at November 06, 2012 06:39 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: lael at November 06, 2012 06:39 PM (tUcg9)
Posted by: Fast becoming Furious at November 06, 2012 06:39 PM (Xa1VJ)
Posted by: tasker at November 06, 2012 06:39 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Avi at November 06, 2012 06:39 PM (40anC)
Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at November 06, 2012 06:39 PM (WwR1j)
Revolution (by peaceful means of course) is declaring that they are wrong and we will show them why.
Posted by: Jcw46 at November 06, 2012 10:35 PM (SP4jC)
Let me guess, revolt at the polls? Sorry but that time has passed. The takers outnumber the workers, I don't think that can be reversed. I don't know what to do now.
Posted by: yinzer at November 06, 2012 06:39 PM (2GZPT)
Posted by: Dante at November 06, 2012 06:39 PM (GRgdL)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 06:39 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Velociman at November 06, 2012 06:40 PM (yy9MQ)
Posted by: Doctor Cynic at November 06, 2012 06:40 PM (BZjb6)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 06, 2012 06:40 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Mayday at November 06, 2012 06:40 PM (F3s39)
Say hello to Mr. Galt.
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 06, 2012 06:40 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: GuyfromNH at November 06, 2012 06:40 PM (kbOju)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 06, 2012 06:40 PM (dX4hn)
Moar vodka or wine please....
Posted by: PAgirlinNC at November 06, 2012 06:40 PM (+CbIx)
We are now in enemy territory and have to conduct ourselves accordingly.
Its on, folks.
Posted by: George Patton at November 06, 2012 06:40 PM (qBLA2)
Again, I said "nearly." Having Bush campaign in the People's Republic of California in 2000 instead of devoting more to FL, for example, hurt big.
Posted by: The Q at November 06, 2012 06:41 PM (w4fEE)
Posted by: kj at November 06, 2012 06:41 PM (qEts0)
Posted by: jdub at November 06, 2012 06:41 PM (vIyum)
Divert money into non-taxable resources, such as food, ammunition, guns, etc.
Refuse to get insurance (I cannot get it anyway) and pay the fine - won't join it.
Sign up for everything in government funding that I can, to drain their resources.
Cancel cable since news is worthless; will read UK news.
Devote the rest of my life to destroying the networks.
Posted by: Miss Marple at November 06, 2012 06:41 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: MidGeorgian at November 06, 2012 06:41 PM (qBGUl)
Posted by: Country Singer, who's hoarding ammo and food just in case at November 06, 2012 06:41 PM (meVGV)
Take it to NY if you can sneak it past Bloomers. Lots of starving folk need a warm meal. Oh, and you are doing a heck of a job.
Any other trolls wanna donate to the Am Red C? cath Comm Services? Your favorite charity? Time to step up.
Posted by: RSBejmls at November 06, 2012 06:41 PM (appcA)
Posted by: packsoldier at November 06, 2012 06:41 PM (LbfLY)
Posted by: Tyler at November 06, 2012 06:42 PM (cynHT)
Add in the Blacks, Hispanics, Gays, and SWPL folks, and you've got the ability to get their way.
Florida and Ohio go to Obama -- he'll cheat his way in. And its a losing game to challenge Black cheaters, this is a non-White majority nation now, and White Guy is not only an insult, but basically the mark of an untouchable save a few hard left celebrities like Charlie Sheen or Sean Penn.
Posted by: whiskey at November 06, 2012 06:42 PM (L03mw)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 06:42 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Looking closely at November 06, 2012 06:42 PM (+PDlV)
Posted by: Avi at November 06, 2012 06:42 PM (40anC)
I heard that cocksucker Alan Grayson just got back into Congress - this night has been a continuous kick to the nuts.
Posted by: FartDeco at November 06, 2012 06:42 PM (7IWvV)
Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 06:42 PM (JycCV)
Posted by: Christmasghost at November 06, 2012 06:42 PM (OApiq)
Posted by: emily at November 06, 2012 06:42 PM (epLS9)
Posted by: davidinvirginia at November 06, 2012 06:42 PM (qEkGZ)
If Obama wins, we get Obama for (only!) 4 more years.
But Obamacare (among other things) is forever.
Posted by: lael at November 06, 2012 06:42 PM (tUcg9)
Posted by: Cu'chulainn at November 06, 2012 06:42 PM (S2usR)
Posted by: runninrebel at November 06, 2012 06:42 PM (J4gw3)
Posted by: Mayday at November 06, 2012 06:42 PM (F3s39)
Also, Michelle's resemblance to a Wookie is uncanny.
Glad to see the evening's proceedings haven't made this place any LESS racist.
Posted by: he's a mooslin!!1!!!! at November 06, 2012 06:43 PM (U465A)
Posted by: joeindc44 has a D+10 sample for you at November 06, 2012 06:43 PM (Z3ckx)
Posted by: Manolo at November 06, 2012 06:43 PM (PttbO)
Posted by: Jean at November 06, 2012 06:43 PM (IS2o0)
Posted by: Deli Llama at November 06, 2012 06:43 PM (lGu1O)
Posted by: Tyler at November 06, 2012 06:43 PM (cynHT)
Posted by: Velociman at November 06, 2012 06:43 PM (yy9MQ)
Posted by: Elmer Fudge at November 06, 2012 06:44 PM (8tVOc)
Posted by: Christine at November 06, 2012 06:44 PM (6fjqp)
Posted by: pdiddy at November 06, 2012 06:44 PM (FcG0+)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 06, 2012 06:44 PM (ZPrif)
If o wins, say hello to a full on recession. I wonder how he will be able to blame that on Bush?
Posted by: Fresh at November 06, 2012 06:44 PM (O7ksG)
Who are all these new nics? Sheesh! Close the sewer drain already.
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 06, 2012 06:44 PM (AZB/i)
But Obamacare (among other things) is forever.
Posted by: lael at November 06, 2012 10:42 PM (tUcg9)
What makes you think he'll have to leave office after 4 years after another 4 years of perverting the system?
Posted by: davidinvirginia at November 06, 2012 06:44 PM (qEkGZ)
If nothing else Ace you've categorically proven how useless at political prediction you are.
Suck it up losers
Posted by: James at November 06, 2012 06:44 PM (IsJKV)
Posted by: Doctor Cynic at November 06, 2012 06:44 PM (BZjb6)
Posted by: ken at November 06, 2012 06:44 PM (KSgPs)
apart from WA and CA, the voting is all but over. Well, alaska. But we've got that one.
There are maybe fifteen minutes left when Keeping a Brave Face matters.
Then it's just counting.
Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 06:44 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Avi at November 06, 2012 06:44 PM (40anC)
Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at November 06, 2012 06:45 PM (Ea64Y)
Posted by: Gerry at November 06, 2012 06:45 PM (QK54y)
To all of those who care.... some will be leaving the Grid very soon...
Good Luck... Fair Winds and Following Seas...
But some remember their oath....
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 06, 2012 06:45 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: jimi ray at November 06, 2012 06:45 PM (79EF9)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 06:45 PM (9+ccr)
Allegations of absentee ballot counting problem in OH too.
Not to be a bad sport, but I think the Dems have cheated a lot today.
And yes, like I said, even if we end up winning, what in the hell has happened to the electorate?? All this for some fucking food stamps?
I guess we can call TFG Little Hugo now.
Posted by: PJ at November 06, 2012 06:45 PM (DQHjw)
Unfortunate but when 47% are living off the other 53% its just the fact of it
Posted by: Chicken ala King at November 06, 2012 06:45 PM (VvvBE)
Posted by: bitter-witch at November 06, 2012 06:45 PM (qKow2)
He still will. And Romney too. And he'll start fingering companies and individuals. The brown shirts will come.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at November 06, 2012 06:45 PM (Qxdfp)
Posted by: Truman North at November 06, 2012 06:45 PM (vWZrj)
The country is doomed and the Republicans were no small part of the fall. This is where being a milquetoast leads.
Posted by: tommy at November 06, 2012 06:45 PM (Ufxn1)
I always knew the Obama, fucking Obama, incumbent campaign would be the most corrupt effort at stealing an election, ever.
But it's not over yet, by a long shot.
Posted by: lael at November 06, 2012 06:46 PM (tUcg9)
Posted by: madamex at November 06, 2012 06:46 PM (+kvQd)
Posted by: Drivingtheview at November 06, 2012 06:46 PM (3Wc1T)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 06:46 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: steevy at November 06, 2012 06:46 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Havedash at November 06, 2012 06:46 PM (ToMJU)
Posted by: Eisenhorn at November 06, 2012 06:46 PM (OjQYm)
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at November 06, 2012 06:46 PM (d6TfZ)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 06, 2012 06:46 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at November 06, 2012 06:46 PM (DGIjM)
MSNBC has North Carolina going for Romney with 95% in, but only 80,000 +/- votes ahead. About time to call that one, mebbe.
Mitt's ahead in Wisconsin with 29% in.
Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at November 06, 2012 06:46 PM (WwR1j)
And yet . . . and yet . . .
The Republican Party has gone entirely off the rails. What in the hell are these candidates saying about rape and abortion? That doesn't help. The anti-gay thing. A'right, that's very 1950's in a 2012 world. It looks like a party of segregationists. Just get on the side of history and get it over with. You're going to go toe-to-toe against hispanics? In this country? What did you think would happen?
At the end of the day, I'm bothered more by the total lack of common sense. I know what many Republicans want. But you want isn't necessarily what you're going to get. Adjust or die. Many Republicans and the party in general are choosing die.
Obama should have lost in a landslide. Even with the Republican Party's anachronistic views, I still wanted Obama to go down.
But the country and the cultural reality are leaving you behind. Embrace this. Learn from it. Adjust accordingly. I love conservative governance when it comes to foreign policy, fiscal discipline, and taxation. Culturally, you've this massive evangelical albatross around your necks. Politically, not only was the primary a gang of clowns, but the actual candidate screamed "Don't trust me! I'll say anything!" Honestly? This was the best Republicans could do? Romney seemed to get the nomination by default, as the least fucking horrible candidate.
Ace, I love you. You're my favorite logical conservative. Your thinking is among the finest I've read online. You have an insight that is brilliant.
But I'm stymied by how little you guys perceive about America's political reality. It's like you don't entirely understand where this country is and where it's going.
You're running ten years behind. Update accordingly.
Posted by: Robbie at November 06, 2012 06:46 PM (vhpKX)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 06, 2012 06:47 PM (dX4hn)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 06, 2012 10:47 PM (dX4hn)
And that is baaaad.
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 06:47 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Country Singer, who's hoarding ammo and food just in case at November 06, 2012 06:47 PM (meVGV)
Posted by: kj at November 06, 2012 06:47 PM (qEts0)
199 By my estimate Miami still has about 300,000 votes to submit.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 06, 2012 10:47 PM (dX4hn)
We're fucked, aren't we?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 06, 2012 06:47 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: SamIam at November 06, 2012 06:48 PM (pAyr3)
Moral relativism for the win.
Posted by: ELKomandante at November 06, 2012 06:48 PM (9Fjmj)
Posted by: Jean at November 06, 2012 10:43 PM (IS2o0)
*vomit*
Posted by: rand at November 06, 2012 06:48 PM (BC800)
I do feel bad for my ten year old son, though. He'll only read about how great America was once.
Posted by: Jiminy at November 06, 2012 06:48 PM (u3N3z)
Bite my ass, you misogynist creep. As a white women younger than 55, I sure as hell DO work for a living, and I sure as hell DON'T vote for asshats like Bammy, and I sure as hell DON'T vote for somebody because he looks cute, or offers me free shit, or makes it easy for me to kill babies.
Just as many MEN voted for that asshole as WOMEN, thank you very much. All of those who did can burn in hell as far as I'm concerned.
Posted by: tcn at November 06, 2012 06:48 PM (VLG62)
yeah, just watched Rove and felt better immediately. OH is still winnable.
Did you know CNN has NOT called WI for O? I'm watching them instead of fox for the most part now.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 06:48 PM (KL49F)
"The American people are well and truly fucked."
See, the problem is the American people, or rather, the residents and placeholders in America that get to vote. Vote to take, through the force of an Obama government, the assets of others. Oh yeah, they love Obama, and we're just the suppliers of all their shit.
Posted by: tubal at November 06, 2012 06:48 PM (BoE3Z)
Posted by: A. at November 06, 2012 06:48 PM (kjTzB)
Bingo.
Even if we recover after he's gone - the skeletal goons in robes will hang on for generations.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at November 06, 2012 06:48 PM (Qxdfp)
Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at November 06, 2012 06:48 PM (J6kXj)
Posted by: Spike at November 06, 2012 06:48 PM (I4NNt)
Posted by: Tommy V at November 06, 2012 06:48 PM (ZYlKz)
It's not that.
Two weeks ago Romney WAS winning. Then he began slipping, and Sandy came, and Chris Christie practically endorsed Obama.
We've been still looking back at two weeks ago. And I don't really think that's a bad thing. I believe to succeed you have to first believe you can succeed. You have to take additional steps past that, but without the first step of belief, it's not possible at all.
So I do not think it was bad to sort of ignore the past week's polling, and the definite slippage. A team that goes into a match thinking they will lose, will lose. There is a thing called Game Faces.
There's a lot of lessons to be figured out from this. Some of them will be very hard ones. Some of them will almost be impossible.
Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 06:48 PM (LCRYB)
But of course, many of those votes will not be counted.
Posted by: lael at November 06, 2012 06:48 PM (tUcg9)
ace, your prediction would've been right if not for voter fraud.
I'm reading on twitter that some Dems voted 1600 times each in OH?
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 06:48 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 06:49 PM (JycCV)
Posted by: tommy at November 06, 2012 06:49 PM (Ufxn1)
NC only 1% in it, almost full count??
VA starting to look a bit wobbly too as Northern Virginia comes in.
Posted by: AussieMarcus at November 06, 2012 06:49 PM (RstsB)
Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at November 06, 2012 06:49 PM (Ea64Y)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 06:49 PM (9+ccr)
It's not just Obama for four years; it's his SCOTUS appointments. That will change the very nature of this country for decades.
^^^
This
Posted by: Infidel at November 06, 2012 06:49 PM (Vk6ZI)
Posted by: packsoldier at November 06, 2012 06:49 PM (LbfLY)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 06, 2012 06:49 PM (dX4hn)
If America is to be an all around liberal, particularly socially, nation, then LET. IT. BURN.
There is no possibility of any other outcome, so there is no reason to make any attempt to avoid it.
Posted by: Methos at November 06, 2012 06:50 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: Interested reader at November 06, 2012 06:50 PM (1MePm)
I'm done. If morons in this country can re-elect SCOAMF then ... well... whats the freakin point.
Posted by: Learn to Love Socialism at November 06, 2012 06:50 PM (gKz+d)
Posted by: Jmel at November 06, 2012 06:50 PM (c+D8V)
Would everyone please buck the fuck up? The MSM--including Fox--are calling states with <10% of the votes in. There's a strategy at work here--the MSM wants to give meat to the bones in case a losing Obama litigates and Fox (and others) want viewer ratings through the roof. Everybody, it seems, has an agenda. We're not getting it straight and, more importantly, we have not lost this thing, not yet.
Posted by: troyriser at November 06, 2012 06:50 PM (vtiE6)
If it's any consolation I went with the prediction that romney would win handily. I am in the WRONG column tonight.
Still counting, fingers crossed
Posted by: The Jackhole on Ventura Highway at November 06, 2012 06:50 PM (DU15A)
Posted by: Jolly Roger at November 06, 2012 06:50 PM (F1lOF)
No, their cheat game was better than ours.
Posted by: Mr_Write at November 06, 2012 06:50 PM (CLkAH)
U were'nt way off. U just forgot to add in the 20% VOTER FRAUD in the states by dems.
Posted by: COUNTRY294 at November 06, 2012 06:50 PM (LjGRA)
Posted by: The Dude at November 06, 2012 06:50 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: Barnes at November 06, 2012 06:50 PM (6JULv)
Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at November 06, 2012 06:51 PM (J6kXj)
Posted by: teebone at November 06, 2012 10:50 PM (YtLSL)
Did not see that one
Posted by: Red Shirt at November 06, 2012 06:51 PM (FIDMq)
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 06, 2012 06:51 PM (kvcfI)
Posted by: Craig Poe at November 06, 2012 06:51 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 06:51 PM (LCRYB)
I blame tattoos. The jig was up when it came to be that seemingly nice girls from decent families inked themselves more than any sailor in fleet did just thirty years ago.
Posted by: Sigh at November 06, 2012 06:51 PM (u3N3z)
Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at November 06, 2012 06:51 PM (Ea64Y)
That being said, this election doesn't seem to confirm the fact that the "young guns" of Ryan and Rubio were all that great. Couldn't do anything in WI and barely going to win FL.
/Back to drinking
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 06, 2012 06:51 PM (Q0B9b)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 06:52 PM (9+ccr)
Putting up the patron of RomneyCare against the patron of ObamaCare was sheer, unadulterated genius!
Posted by: Gerry at November 06, 2012 06:52 PM (QK54y)
Too bad it will be too late.
Stalin starved them and shot them. Hitler gassed them. Obama's going to kill them with kindness. As in, "we'll get your granny a new heart as soon as one comes up AND a doctor can be found AND a hospital can be booked. That'll be about 4 years from now. M'Kay?"
Free medical care that you can't get because there are no doctors available will still kill you.
Posted by: Jcw46 at November 06, 2012 06:52 PM (SP4jC)
Posted by: encarn at November 06, 2012 06:52 PM (MVBMA)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 06, 2012 06:52 PM (u0MHM)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 06, 2012 06:52 PM (i0App)
Posted by: The Q at November 06, 2012 06:52 PM (w4fEE)
The education system has been working on that hand in hand with the media for a few decades now.
Working out splendidly, isn't it?
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at November 06, 2012 06:52 PM (Qxdfp)
Posted by: Damiano at November 06, 2012 06:52 PM (yikVS)
Posted by: fuck the 47% at November 06, 2012 06:52 PM (u6e7p)
Posted by: Bete resigned to just watching the world burn at November 06, 2012 06:53 PM (8kIXE)
Posted by: chris at November 06, 2012 06:53 PM (KDAAY)
Posted by: packsoldier at November 06, 2012 06:53 PM (LbfLY)
Posted by: joeindc44 has a D+10 sample for you at November 06, 2012 06:53 PM (Z3ckx)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at November 06, 2012 06:53 PM (EUv1K)
Posted by: Interested reader at November 06, 2012 06:53 PM (1MePm)
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Saw yours Doc right after I posted at the same time. In which part of the state do you reside? I'm in the Dallas area, and am very thankful (especially right now) that I'm a Texan.
Posted by: Mayday at November 06, 2012 06:53 PM (F3s39)
Posted by: Red Shirt at November 06, 2012 06:53 PM (FIDMq)
What's up with THAT?
Posted by: Jcw46 at November 06, 2012 06:53 PM (SP4jC)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 06:53 PM (9+ccr)
Do you know what we got at the end of 05 the last republican house-senate-WH majority? Yep Sqaut.
Posted by: Shiggz RoketSturgeon at November 06, 2012 06:53 PM (RfvTE)
Posted by: Texas Ranger at November 06, 2012 06:53 PM (IvvrO)
...it's been a lovely fucking country.
Jones in CO OUT
Posted by: Jones in CO at November 06, 2012 06:53 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: TheGarbone at November 06, 2012 06:53 PM (cEDzL)
We are the America that will be.
Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 06:54 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 06, 2012 06:54 PM (Q0B9b)
Posted by: Rich at November 06, 2012 06:54 PM (arczc)
Posted by: Gerry at November 06, 2012 06:54 PM (QK54y)
Posted by: Travis at November 06, 2012 06:54 PM (9WkMB)
Posted by: ken at November 06, 2012 06:54 PM (KSgPs)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2012 06:54 PM (XkWWK)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 06:54 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: packsoldier at November 06, 2012 06:54 PM (LbfLY)
Posted by: SFGoth at November 06, 2012 06:54 PM (aouuu)
Posted by: Jeanne the Obscure at November 06, 2012 06:54 PM (pgeQy)
West is beating Murphy in Palm Beach by 100 votes.
Posted by: @PurpAv at November 06, 2012 06:54 PM (3U/m2)
Posted by: LIGuy at November 06, 2012 06:54 PM (HYD/Y)
Posted by: James at November 06, 2012 10:53 PM (R5XiJ)
Who will pay for your free shit then?
Posted by: Red Shirt at November 06, 2012 06:54 PM (FIDMq)
Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 06:55 PM (JycCV)
Posted by: Shiggz RoketSturgeon at November 06, 2012 06:55 PM (RfvTE)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 06, 2012 06:55 PM (6JMZR)
Ohio Recount?
Florida Recount?
I am sick of this election already.
It feels like we have been running this shit for 5 years now.
Posted by: jeremiah GOD Bless America with a Mitt Romney Presidency wright at November 06, 2012 06:55 PM (ovpNn)
It's as if Walker didn't win his recall by that huge margin.
You could even see the loss in the White House liars leading up to today as if even they thought they couldn't cheat their way out of this.
Not adding up. SCYTL?
Posted by: november1981 at November 06, 2012 06:55 PM (Z6XSF)
Hugh Frakkin' Hewitt.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 06, 2012 06:55 PM (Q0B9b)
Posted by: packsoldier at November 06, 2012 10:49 PM (LbfLY)
Posted by: Methos at November 06, 2012 06:55 PM (hO9ad)
You need to change your system, guys. It's broken. Badly.
Posted by: perturbed at November 06, 2012 06:55 PM (dXePx)
Posted by: Ben Franklin at November 06, 2012 06:55 PM (lZBBB)
is that you Robbie the gay malcontent?"
Yeah. I read Ace five to ten times a day, but I don't think I've commented in five years.
Posted by: Robbie at November 06, 2012 06:55 PM (vhpKX)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at November 06, 2012 06:55 PM (EUv1K)
Something stinks about this election. How is it that states that both Obama and Romney pretty much conceded to Romney (FL, NC) are 'too close to call' while other states that were supposedly 'too close to call' (PA,MI,WI) dropped into the Obama column within seconds of the polls closing?
Posted by: BigDaddyD at November 06, 2012 06:55 PM (S4N/h)
Posted by: RobD at November 06, 2012 06:55 PM (wGIVf)
Posted by: Methos at November 06, 2012 06:55 PM (hO9ad)
I was in the local IKEA over the weekend, in the kitchen ware section. A young couple with a baby was looking and the male picked up an egg cup, turned it over a few times, read the label, and asked his wife, for all to hear, including the baby: "Egg cup?!!? what the fuck is an egg cup?"
Being nearby, and thinking it was a genuine question, I said, you put a soft boiled egg in it. "Oh, the two of them said. You learn something new every day."
Posted by: Now that you mention it at November 06, 2012 06:55 PM (u3N3z)
Posted by: Stormy at November 06, 2012 06:55 PM (1f2Z2)
Exactly. The Republicans went along with this demographic transformation of America and now Latin American rather than Anglo-American style politics is our inevitable future and, in most of Latin America, the conservatives aren't all that conservative by Anglo-American standards, they're just soft liberals.
Posted by: tommy at November 06, 2012 06:56 PM (Ufxn1)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 06:56 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: steevy at November 06, 2012 06:56 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: mr_jack at November 06, 2012 06:56 PM (TMG3G)
Posted by: Yup, Over at November 06, 2012 06:56 PM (+5R2D)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2012 06:56 PM (XkWWK)
I don't see the same totals anywhere but Drudge....man he can market....
Recount Florida regardless
Posted by: sunny at November 06, 2012 06:56 PM (ONXcZ)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 06, 2012 06:56 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: James at November 06, 2012 10:53 PM (R5XiJ)
I take it you're not into that whole 'opponents not enemies' philosophy. Is the time for civility over? Alas, alack.
Posted by: troyriser at November 06, 2012 06:56 PM (vtiE6)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at November 06, 2012 06:56 PM (EUv1K)
Posted by: Wi Lurker at November 06, 2012 06:56 PM (9pqWr)
One lesson, in my opinion, is that you absolutely have to treat liberals as your mortal enemy. Not someone you "agree to disagree with", but someone you'd strangle in an alley if you were given the chance.
Sorry, and that may get me banned, but there it is.
Posted by: BS Inc. at November 06, 2012 06:56 PM (P2Ufm)
Akin and Mourdock killed us. Probably cost us Brown and Romney too.
Happy, fanatic SoCons?
Posted by: cool breeze at November 06, 2012 06:56 PM (hx/td)
Posted by: James at November 06, 2012 10:53 PM (R5XiJ)
Maybe you should go start a fight with a republican, in real life, not on the internet, and see who ends up dead.
Posted by: txconservative at November 06, 2012 06:56 PM (5UMyr)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 06, 2012 06:56 PM (ZPrif)
How do you propose to do that? What part of the Republican platform would you change to accommodate these freeloading criminals?
What part of your/our principals are you willing to compromise on the slim chance that that will lure a few more votes?
The country seems to have spoken. May God have mercy on us.
Posted by: Jcw46 at November 06, 2012 06:56 PM (SP4jC)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at November 06, 2012 06:56 PM (kXoT0)
The American people are well and truly fucked.
When SHTF, this country will not know what hit them. That is okay too. A good lot of them need to be eliminated apparently.
Posted by: NWConservative at November 06, 2012 10:35 PM (M1gmo)
Cut. Jib. Newsletter.
Posted by: Flounder at November 06, 2012 06:56 PM (Kkt/i)
Wyatt Earp,
"Similarly, I have to agree with Laura Ingraham. The GOP needs to be completely retooled. Start from scratch, and toss out idiots like Boeehner, McConnell, etc."
This. Boehner and McConnell are fucking cancers.
Posted by: Ernie McCracken at November 06, 2012 06:57 PM (ZETiK)
I'm sure there was some real genius lost there. Thanks to you.
Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 06:57 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: 80sBaby at November 06, 2012 06:57 PM (YjDyJ)
Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty. This is known as "bad luck."
Posted by: ZBBMcFate at November 06, 2012 06:57 PM (5skY4)
Posted by: garfish at November 06, 2012 06:57 PM (RDnLr)
Ugggggg and now to Susan Estrich right on que they bring in the left wing kooks
Posted by: Chicken ala King at November 06, 2012 06:57 PM (VvvBE)
Posted by: Jolly Roger at November 06, 2012 06:57 PM (F1lOF)
I think, and it's only me spitballing here, that 2010 was the actual mirage. It was sheer guttural rage at O-Care, but a limited rage. I also think people still wanted to vote for the black guy so they wouldn't appear "racist."
Right-center country? I don't agree with that anymore.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 06, 2012 06:57 PM (Q0B9b)
Posted by: Lee (in KY) at November 06, 2012 06:57 PM (jgXna)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 06, 2012 06:57 PM (3Y7RV)
They were really great - I got their first album but then they got a little too commercial.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at November 06, 2012 06:57 PM (Qxdfp)
Posted by: tofer732 at November 06, 2012 06:57 PM (m5Iwq)
I've lived under socialism. It's care-free as long as you follow your prescribed path. But it's empty.
Posted by: t-bird at November 06, 2012 06:57 PM (Qwu7o)
Posted by: Don Coreleone at November 06, 2012 06:57 PM (yJYwC)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at November 06, 2012 06:57 PM (EUv1K)
We are the America that will be.
Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 10:54 PM (LCRYB)
Hate to say this Ace, but I'll take an existential threat to this disgusting erosion and defecation on the Republic from the inside. There is no refuge after us. We had 9/11 after 2 terms of Clinton; what will we have after 8 years of Obama?
Posted by: Linlithgow at November 06, 2012 06:57 PM (Gim9y)
Posted by: AussieMarcus at November 06, 2012 06:57 PM (RstsB)
Too bad it will be too late.
Stalin starved them and shot them. Hitler gassed them. Obama's going to kill them with kindness. As in, "we'll get your granny a new heart as soon as one comes up AND a doctor can be found AND a hospital can be booked. That'll be about 4 years from now. M'Kay?"
Free medical care that you can't get because there are no doctors available will still kill you.
Posted by: Jcw46 at November 06, 2012 10:52 PM (SP4jC)
The "Free Shit from Uncle Sugar" will think of that as a benefit of ACA instead of a negative. Greedy mommy and daddy need to die so that they can get their shit.
Posted by: MrCaniac at November 06, 2012 06:57 PM (Zd/NW)
I trollbusted him. His comments will be deleted automatically, but might show up for a second.
Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 06:58 PM (LCRYB)
Don't blame "Americans" (in general) for the 18th century anachronism.
Posted by: Gerry at November 06, 2012 06:58 PM (QK54y)
Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 06, 2012 06:58 PM (DoZD+)
Posted by: LIGuy at November 06, 2012 06:58 PM (HYD/Y)
Posted by: Manolo at November 06, 2012 06:58 PM (PttbO)
Posted by: The Dude at November 06, 2012 06:58 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 06:58 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2012 06:58 PM (XkWWK)
Posted by: Damiano at November 06, 2012 06:58 PM (yikVS)
Posted by: Modgi at November 06, 2012 06:58 PM (3xuDv)
Posted by: Secundus at November 06, 2012 06:59 PM (2oKah)
1. Fraud
2. Country is full of leeches and anti-American scum.
Cannot prove the fraud unless we get back to paper ballots with required voter ID.
Cannot fix the country unless we starve the people who created the leeches and anti-American scum. That would be media, Hollywood, music industry, education, and colleges.
I refuse to give up, but we sure do have a long row to hoe.
Posted by: Miss Marple at November 06, 2012 06:59 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2012 06:59 PM (XkWWK)
I agree, but there is no way - no fucking way - this election should even be close. How do you explain the massive crowds for Mittt in PA, OH, VA, WI, etc? What the frak happened and how did we not see it?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 06, 2012 06:59 PM (Q0B9b)
Posted by: runner at November 06, 2012 06:59 PM (WR5xI)
Posted by: Stormy at November 06, 2012 06:59 PM (1f2Z2)
Posted by: txag at November 06, 2012 06:59 PM (pQgJA)
Posted by: lou's a girl at November 06, 2012 06:59 PM (2Nzn8)
Posted by: chris at November 06, 2012 06:59 PM (KDAAY)
Posted by: madamex at November 06, 2012 06:59 PM (+kvQd)
Posted by: buffy at November 06, 2012 07:00 PM (INAPN)
Posted by: Manolo at November 06, 2012 07:00 PM (PttbO)
If Romney loses to Obama, it won't be because of the Tea Party or the Republican base not turning out for him. Or because Romney didn't do enough (or the truly ridiculous fantasy that a Santorum or Gingrich would've done better in the "war on women/ rape/ politics of personal destruction" election)!
If that *were* the case, IMO it would be ridiculous to blame Romney more than the "true conservatives" that didn't vote for him. Honestly, IMO, the Tea Party and Republican base (and the real TRUE CONSERVATIVES, no quote marks needed) have been fucking awesome in this general election. You, on the other hand, have been a bitter eeyore since forever.
Posted by: lael at November 06, 2012 07:00 PM (tUcg9)
Posted by: Eisenhorn at November 06, 2012 07:00 PM (OjQYm)
However, when CA and IL go belly up financially, then what happens?
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at November 06, 2012 07:00 PM (kXoT0)
DE, NV, MO, IN. Am I leaving any out?
Posted by: ZBBMcFate at November 06, 2012 07:00 PM (5skY4)
Posted by: Don Coreleone at November 06, 2012 10:57 PM (yJYwC)
Damn that was a biiig vote dump, Romney was up 35k not 5-6 minutes ago
Posted by: Red Shirt at November 06, 2012 07:00 PM (FIDMq)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 07:00 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: steevy at November 06, 2012 07:00 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 06, 2012 07:00 PM (vUK/h)
Caribean countries, including Cuba, if it got its shit together, have massive opportunities to enrich themselves providing cash on the barrel medical care for Americans disastified with Obamacare. Mexico, too.
Posted by: boniface ballers at November 06, 2012 07:00 PM (l3RZ9)
Agreed. Rip a lot of things tomorrow, but not Romney. He ran a good campaign, and was certainly no McCain.
Personally, I'd like to see a conservative-wide ban of all the MSM. Ruin them. End them. They delivered this, most notably with the lack of Beenghazi coverage.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 06, 2012 07:01 PM (Q0B9b)
281I hate to be this way but, seriously: Your forefathers endured 4 years of war with Hitler. We have enough grit to survive four more years of Obama.
What makes you think that if Obama gets another 4 years that it will be the last. He doesn't pay any attention to the Constitution as it is. The 22nd Amendment is obviously racist, so can be repealed by executive order.
Posted by: BigDaddyD at November 06, 2012 07:01 PM (S4N/h)
Posted by: Lee (in KY) at November 06, 2012 07:01 PM (jgXna)
Posted by: TheGarbone at November 06, 2012 07:01 PM (cEDzL)
Posted by: Brian at November 06, 2012 07:01 PM (uceYY)
Yeah, we had a technical shitfest at the time.
I understand the snark, but even so. I'll just leave it alone. We're all about to have a bad night, and a bad four years. I want it do go differently, and you do, too.
The question approaching is how we can win. If you think just hating Democrats is tonic enough, I don't know what to tell you. That's just not going to do it anymore.
Posted by: Robbie at November 06, 2012 07:01 PM (vhpKX)
I LOL'd though - for a little while Mr. Drudge had WY as an Obama win... I assure you that would never happen!
Posted by: Fast becoming Furious at November 06, 2012 07:01 PM (Xa1VJ)
Posted by: @PurpAv at November 06, 2012 07:01 PM (3U/m2)
Posted by: Spike at November 06, 2012 07:01 PM (I4NNt)
Posted by: Lt Col Frank Slade at November 06, 2012 07:02 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 06, 2012 07:02 PM (ATP6u)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at November 06, 2012 07:02 PM (EUv1K)
Posted by: Matt at November 06, 2012 07:02 PM (ljiM/)
Posted by: Baldy at November 06, 2012 07:02 PM (opS9C)
Posted by: toliver at November 06, 2012 07:02 PM (fCAbm)
Posted by: AussieMarcus at November 06, 2012 07:02 PM (RstsB)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 06, 2012 07:03 PM (Q0B9b)
Posted by: sandbagger at November 06, 2012 07:03 PM (XkWVz)
Posted by: Manolo at November 06, 2012 07:03 PM (PttbO)
I'm noticing that British doctors are choosing New Zealand and Australia.
Posted by: Gordon undead Ramsay at November 06, 2012 07:03 PM (9HhTH)
Posted by: packsoldier at November 06, 2012 07:03 PM (LbfLY)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 06, 2012 07:03 PM (d0Dmj)
Posted by: tasker at November 06, 2012 07:03 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Learn to Love Socialism at November 06, 2012 10:50 PM (gKz+d)
Would everyone please buck the fuck up? The MSM--including Fox--are calling states with <10% of the votes in. There's a strategy at work here--the MSM wants to give meat to the bones in casea losingObama litigates and Fox (and others) want viewer ratings through the roof. Everybody, it seems, has an agenda. We're not getting it straight and, more importantly, we have not lost this thing, not yet.
Posted by: troyriser at November 06, 2012 10:50 PM (vtiE6)
I want to believe you, troyriser, but I've got a sick, sick feeling in my gut right now. Sick enough that, if we really do lose (I could deal with that smarmy scrunt Warren, but just barely), I do not want to go to work. Because I will be surrounded by grinning, gloating SCOAMF voters and I will want to kill them. And that is not hyperbole. I want to KILL them. I am sick and tired of shrugging my shoulders every couple of years, readjusting my expenses ever smaller and working ever longer hours just to keep even. I thought we might just have a chance to breathe a bit. I worked, I pounded on doors, I made calls, I brought people to the polls - sure, I'm in Massholia, but I did everything I could.
And yet, after seeing the lawlessness, the sneering, the spending, the complete trashing of our founding principles over the last four years, the American "people" want to double down on this shit? REALLY?
I'm going to bed. I hope we pull it out. But I can't keep watching the numbers. I can't keep going on with this sick feeling in my stomach. I want the Democrats dead. I literally want every asshole who voted Democrat to die. That's what 4 years of Obama have done to me.
With any luck, maybe all of my bad habits will catch up with me tonight and I won't wake up tomorrow.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 06, 2012 07:03 PM (gTyBq)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at November 06, 2012 07:03 PM (EUv1K)
Posted by: Ken at November 06, 2012 07:03 PM (caupe)
Posted by: Rich at November 06, 2012 07:03 PM (arczc)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 06, 2012 07:03 PM (ZPrif)
I'm sure the Democrats are open to that. They seem reasonable to me and wouldn't mind throwing their advantage away.
Posted by: t-bird at November 06, 2012 07:04 PM (Qwu7o)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 06, 2012 10:57 PM (Q0B9b)
I think we can agree at least that America does not resemble the Frank Luntz Focus Group.
Posted by: november1981 at November 06, 2012 07:04 PM (Z6XSF)
Let's be honest. Obama wins, that blows but it's not the end of the world. Suck it up, and march on.
Oh I'll march on, but from now on, my marching won't include dragging a bunch of fucking leeches along with me. My chips are coming off the table.
Posted by: tubal at November 06, 2012 07:04 PM (BoE3Z)
OH is close but Cleveland is out and Hamilton County not going great.
Posted by: jjdcoach at November 06, 2012 07:04 PM (EC1Pt)
Posted by: BJ at November 06, 2012 07:04 PM (qX40S)
Let this be a lesson for future founders of republics: raise the voting age substantially or require marriage to vote if you don't want your country going down the shitter. Also, limit the franchise to those who are native-born so that elected officials don't attempt electing a new class of voters.
Posted by: tommy at November 06, 2012 07:04 PM (Ufxn1)
Posted by: TheGarbone at November 06, 2012 07:04 PM (cEDzL)
I was just kidding, you know. I thought the "Real genius was lost" was a tip-off. I didn't think whatever I said would stand the test of eternity.
Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 07:04 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 06, 2012 07:04 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: War69.com at November 06, 2012 07:04 PM (ayPhb)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 07:04 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at November 06, 2012 07:04 PM (EUv1K)
We are the America that will be.
Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 10:54 PM (LCRYB)
Yeah, but America didn't choose Hitler.
I've already protected myself but I can't believe Obama might win again.
Posted by: Stateless_Infidel at November 06, 2012 07:04 PM (AC0lD)
Unfortunately, that's just a factor we have to deal with in every election.
But Obama 2012? The no-holds-barred effort to steal the election would be unprecedented.
I'm not conceding this election yet, however. Fuck yeah, we can still win this.
Posted by: lael at November 06, 2012 07:05 PM (tUcg9)
Posted by: Chicken ala King at November 06, 2012 07:05 PM (VvvBE)
Let's all get together and buy stock in CBS Corp. (Ticker symbol CBS). It has about an $18 billion market cap. Once enough conservatives get a controlling interest, we can use it to get the truth out to the American people.
Posted by: Thinker at November 06, 2012 07:05 PM (toa9p)
Bullshit. There's nothing to understand except we're dealing with liars, a corrupt education system with an agenda, and a complicit media. I've got friends that aren't idiots - but they buy everything that they hear. And I can only spend so many hours trying to deprogram them from whatever crap they've been absorbing from the news, friends and coworkers.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at November 06, 2012 07:05 PM (Qxdfp)
Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 07:05 PM (JycCV)
Posted by: conservativechick at November 06, 2012 07:05 PM (8GQ/G)
Any vote I might cast in 2016 is worthless anyway...I'm sure the choice will be between Obama's third term (yeah, he'll circumvent the constitution on that) and some Media-chosen non-entity (the New Chris Christie, maybe).
The Media is the enemy here. The Democrats are the archetypal 90 pound weakling with a 45 automatic. The 45 is the Media. Take it away and maybe, just maybe, the country can survive. If Obama wins tonight, I doubt it.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 06, 2012 07:05 PM (i0App)
Posted by: Jimmy Johns at November 06, 2012 07:05 PM (lJ3rV)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 06, 2012 07:05 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 06, 2012 07:05 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: Manolo at November 06, 2012 07:05 PM (PttbO)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at November 06, 2012 07:05 PM (EUv1K)
http://www.vdare.com/articles/obama-fringe-vs-romney-core
Posted by: tommy at November 06, 2012 07:05 PM (Ufxn1)
Posted by: dawnfire at November 06, 2012 07:05 PM (eEeH7)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 06, 2012 07:06 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at November 06, 2012 07:06 PM (DGIjM)
Actually, Brown killed Brown. Shifted between con and squish so often that MA figured they couldn't trust him. Fuck him. He ran as a conservative, and he should have governed like one. At least today he could hold his head high. Instead, he sucked the cock of the MA Dems, and they rewarded him with an exit.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 06, 2012 07:06 PM (Q0B9b)
@HawkinsUSA Right now, Gary Johnson is getting enough of the vote that would put Romney over the top in both FL and OH
Fuck Gary Johnson and his whiny, self-righteous supporters.
Posted by: 80sBaby at November 06, 2012 07:06 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: madamex at November 06, 2012 07:06 PM (+kvQd)
Posted by: blb at November 06, 2012 07:06 PM (58wdo)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at November 06, 2012 07:06 PM (DGIjM)
4 more years of Obama will destroy the country. Especially since we are not going to take the Senate and may even lose ground there.
Posted by: Vic at November 06, 2012 07:06 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 07:06 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Manolo at November 06, 2012 07:06 PM (PttbO)
I hate the way Obama talks. I hate the sound of his voice. I also think he will hate being POTUS the next few years because he isn't loved anymore.
Occam's Razor: the other guy, they though, even though he is a great businessman, could not get them a job. You see, the average American is innumerate and doesn't understand the simplest fundamental of capitalism.
RR should have put on a huge screen the Milton Friedman takedown of Phil Donohue on youtube. Capitalism in a nutshell and the taking down of a progressive Nut. I've never seen a person do it better and with more class than Friedman. And you could see Donahue recoil because his idiocy had been exposed.
Posted by: gayle in ca at November 06, 2012 07:06 PM (wgmUB)
Posted by: Elmer Fudge at November 06, 2012 07:06 PM (8tVOc)
Posted by: Peaches welcomes President Romney at November 06, 2012 07:06 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: Texas Ranger at November 06, 2012 07:06 PM (IvvrO)
FLORIDA
O 3,928,507 49.8%
R 3,892,512 49.34%
Posted by: MmeBovary at November 06, 2012 07:07 PM (sqMDk)
Posted by: Natasha333 at November 06, 2012 07:07 PM (pyYXJ)
Posted by: TheGarbone at November 06, 2012 07:07 PM (cEDzL)
Bush 41 unavailable for comment.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 06, 2012 07:07 PM (Q0B9b)
So much for the "Romney Democrat." What a cruel and horrible joke this election is.
That the Republican Party couldn't field a candidate who could beat this malicious buffoon of a president and beat him soundly is an unutterable disgrace. The GOP will not survive this.
Posted by: rrpjr at November 06, 2012 07:07 PM (IDaTB)
Posted by: Sugar Fatty at November 06, 2012 07:07 PM (EX+sq)
Agreed, the world will do OK without America.
Posted by: Gordon undead Ramsay at November 06, 2012 07:07 PM (9HhTH)
Posted by: Palandine at November 06, 2012 07:07 PM (g7D8V)
Posted by: tasker at November 06, 2012 07:07 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 07:07 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 07:07 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: moki at November 06, 2012 07:07 PM (wi/sM)
Let's be honest. Obama wins, that blows but it's not the end of the world. Suck it up, and march on.
Problem is, if The O wins, the message coming down from Team Republican will be that even Mitt Romney and Scott were too stridently conservative for Nu-America, so why not give -- say -- Christi/Bloomberg a try in four to reach out to the mythical moderates?
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 06, 2012 07:07 PM (kdS6q)
By changing the focus of the election from the economy (favoring Romney) to suffering hurricane victims (favoring big government spending) Christie crushed Romney's chances.
Chris Christie: backstabber and traitor.
Posted by: Thinker at November 06, 2012 07:07 PM (toa9p)
Posted by: Manolo at November 06, 2012 07:08 PM (PttbO)
Posted by: Gerry at November 06, 2012 07:08 PM (QK54y)
Posted by: MidGeorgian at November 06, 2012 07:08 PM (qBGUl)
Posted by: gayle in ca at November 06, 2012 07:08 PM (wgmUB)
I hate to be this way but, seriously: Your forefathers endured 4 years of war with Hitler. We have enough grit to survive four more years of Obama.
We are the America that will be.
Remind me how many executive orders Hitler signed, Ace. How many parts of the Constitution he treated like toilet paper. How many Americans he took the authority to throw into jail or have killed on his say-so. Or is "your forefathers" supposed to mean Germans?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 06, 2012 07:08 PM (gTyBq)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 06, 2012 07:08 PM (C9cFc)
says the Teacher.
“Utterly meaningless!
Everything is meaningless.”
3 What do people gain from all their labors
at which they toil under the sun?
4 Generations come and generations go,
but the earth remains forever.
5 The sun rises and the sun sets,
and hurries back to where it rises.
6 The wind blows to the south
and turns to the north;
round and round it goes,
ever returning on its course.
7 All streams flow into the sea,
yet the sea is never full.
To the place the streams come from,
there they return again.
8 All things are wearisome,
more than one can say.
The eye never has enough of seeing,
nor the ear its fill of hearing.
9 What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.
10 Is there anything of which one can say,
“Look! This is something new”?
It was here already, long ago;
it was here before our time.
11 No one remembers the former generations,
and even those yet to come
will not be remembered
by those who follow them.
Posted by: LIGuy at November 06, 2012 07:08 PM (HYD/Y)
Posted by: Pastorius at November 06, 2012 07:08 PM (gMAUH)
Rubio couldn't - or will barely - deliver FL for Romney. I think Rubio and Ryan are over... at least as far as POTUS goes.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 06, 2012 07:09 PM (Q0B9b)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 07:09 PM (9+ccr)
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dunno? here in St. John's county it was 68/30 Romney all precincts reporting.
Posted by: willy at November 06, 2012 07:09 PM (kUCQ4)
Posted by: MidGeorgian at November 06, 2012 07:09 PM (qBGUl)
Posted by: Drivingtheview at November 06, 2012 07:09 PM (3Wc1T)
Posted by: Dan at November 06, 2012 07:09 PM (/7gN/)
I'm looking at a constantly updated map:
Romeny/Ryan: 50%
Oblowme/Biteme: 48%
Electoral
Oblowme - 146
Romney: 189
Posted by: Cheri at November 06, 2012 07:09 PM (EAgmr)
Posted by: Pastorius at November 06, 2012 07:09 PM (gMAUH)
Posted by: gayle in ca at November 06, 2012 07:09 PM (wgmUB)
Rather than killing ourselves,I say we all get on the gubmint teat.Cloward Piven from the right.
I was thinking the same thing. Let's hasten the end and start over. We are so much better at surviving than they are. It's still ot over.
Hey, Where's AtC? Should we start planning on how to get to Alextopia?
Posted by: Infidel at November 06, 2012 07:09 PM (Vk6ZI)
Posted by: Rich at November 06, 2012 07:09 PM (arczc)
Posted by: Gerry at November 06, 2012 07:10 PM (QK54y)
Posted by: Milesdei at November 06, 2012 07:10 PM (Iljdt)
We are going left. In the last four years food stamps number went up 12.5 million people. We are now at 47 million on food stamps.
We have reached the end of America as a free country, sorry, my opinion.
Posted by: lou's a girl at November 06, 2012 07:10 PM (2Nzn8)
Posted by: Brendan at November 06, 2012 07:10 PM (2jQGY)
Posted by: steevy at November 06, 2012 07:10 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at November 06, 2012 07:10 PM (WwR1j)
Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at November 06, 2012 07:10 PM (21TJo)
Posted by: 80sBaby at November 06, 2012 07:10 PM (YjDyJ)
Even if we win this thing - it's incredibly depressing to think the country is this far gone. Or stupid. Or both. And it's going to be a shock to them when suddenly we're even further in the hole and can't support ourselves. The market tanks as we enter run away inflation. Fine. Fucking fine.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at November 06, 2012 07:10 PM (Qxdfp)
"There are much deeper problems at work here..."
This.
This isn't about Romney's "electability" or RINOness. Every other Rep candidate had serious issues. I'm thinking O'Reilly had it right - the country has fundamentally changed. This should NOT be that close based on all historical precedent and conventional wisdom.
This is a turning point and as so many other Morons have pointed out, the demographic situation isn't going to improve.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 06, 2012 07:11 PM (uD2fR)
Posted by: Pastorius at November 06, 2012 11:10 PM (gMAUH)
Don't blame them...
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 07:11 PM (9+ccr)
Good thing we didn't nominate an actual small-government Conservative. Then we might have lost the most important election ever! Well, until the next one, and the next one, and...
Posted by: MlR at November 06, 2012 07:11 PM (vR2l5)
Posted by: d. allen at November 06, 2012 07:11 PM (TcpTb)
Posted by: rrpjr at November 06, 2012 11:07 PM (IDaTB)
There is a sliver lining after all.
Posted by: november1981 at November 06, 2012 07:11 PM (Z6XSF)
Posted by: WAGOPinTX at November 06, 2012 07:11 PM (fXInK)
We need to tend to the needs of our families. The cities are going to be awful when the money runs out.
Posted by: 56 and loving RR at November 06, 2012 07:11 PM (9zugO)
Agreed. I thought for sure the pendulum would swing back to the right, but apparently, people want to vote for their doom. PA (my state) was done in by Coal Miners for Obama. Voting against their interests. Fuck them.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 06, 2012 07:11 PM (Q0B9b)
Posted by: madamex at November 06, 2012 07:11 PM (+kvQd)
Posted by: Dr Spank at November 06, 2012 07:11 PM (4cRnj)
Posted by: Country Singer, who's hoarding ammo and food just in case at November 06, 2012 07:11 PM (meVGV)
Posted by: Havedash at November 06, 2012 07:11 PM (ToMJU)
So, how goes sequestration with Obama?
So, should I take money out of the market? Would serve those blue voters right if we did. My 403b money was taken out two years ago and never put back. It's drawing .001 interest. Was waiting for a GOP POTUS to learn where to put it.
Posted by: gayle in ca at November 06, 2012 07:11 PM (wgmUB)
Posted by: Avi at November 06, 2012 07:11 PM (40anC)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 07:11 PM (9+ccr)
Yep, and my bet is that a bunch of the "Lena Dunhams" who voted for Obama tonight will slap themselves upside the head in a decade from now when they realize what they did.
Of course, fat lot of fucking good that will do then.
Fucking voting age should go up in tandem with life expectancy.
Posted by: BS Inc. at November 06, 2012 07:11 PM (P2Ufm)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 07:11 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Shiggz RoketSturgeon at November 06, 2012 07:12 PM (RfvTE)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at November 06, 2012 07:12 PM (EUv1K)
Posted by: Gerry at November 06, 2012 07:12 PM (QK54y)
Posted by: Thinker at November 06, 2012 07:12 PM (toa9p)
Posted by: Manolo at November 06, 2012 07:12 PM (PttbO)
Posted by: The Q at November 06, 2012 07:12 PM (w4fEE)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, ROMNEY/RYAN2012 at November 06, 2012 07:12 PM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: jaimo at November 06, 2012 07:12 PM (zujTK)
They are.
And they're breathing my air.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at November 06, 2012 07:12 PM (Qxdfp)
I'm contemplating taking up cutting again.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at November 06, 2012 07:12 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Chicken ala King at November 06, 2012 07:12 PM (VvvBE)
TFG is done on January 20, 2016. Then we're finished with him, For good.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 06, 2012 07:12 PM (Q0B9b)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 06, 2012 11:08 PM (C9cFc)
Bingo - there's a whole lotta stupid in this country now...
Posted by: George W Beagle at November 06, 2012 07:12 PM (JwW4z)
Posted by: gary at November 06, 2012 07:13 PM (aUnng)
Posted by: Veritas at November 06, 2012 07:13 PM (Cn4KJ)
Posted by: logprof at November 06, 2012 07:13 PM (jKE+Z)
Completely wrong.. People want their free stuff,,,
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 07:13 PM (9+ccr)
Second look at monarchy? (Yeah, I know, I've been sayin' it . . .)
Posted by: boulder hobo at November 06, 2012 07:13 PM (QTHTd)
If Romney loses, I'm remodeling my house, quiting my job, and going on food stamps, social security, and anything else I can squeeze out of uncle sugar. It won't pay to have a job anymore.
I'm certainly going to get Food Insurance.
Posted by: Soona at November 06, 2012 07:13 PM (pbU/y)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 06, 2012 07:13 PM (vUK/h)
Posted by: The Q at November 06, 2012 07:13 PM (w4fEE)
Sore loserism.
If we can't win the election outright, or at least get the popular vote, we're not going to win a double-state electoral challenge.
This sucks the worst, because Obama or not, we're stuck with Obamacare forever now.
Posted by: Looking closely at November 06, 2012 07:13 PM (+PDlV)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 06, 2012 07:13 PM (u0MHM)
Posted by: Wi Lurker at November 06, 2012 07:13 PM (9pqWr)
I was thinking the same thing. Let's hasten the end and start over. We are so much better at surviving than they are. It's still ot over.
Hey, Where's AtC? Should we start planning on how to get to Alextopia?"
This!,...And go Galt.
Posted by: Modgi at November 06, 2012 07:13 PM (3xuDv)
Posted by: Sugar Fatty at November 06, 2012 11:07 PM (EX+sq)
You can haz cheezburger, if you eat it quickly.
Posted by: Nork Supervisor at November 06, 2012 07:13 PM (feRPT)
Posted by: macintx at November 06, 2012 07:13 PM (teREJ)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 06, 2012 07:13 PM (Q0B9b)
Posted by: MidGeorgian at November 06, 2012 07:13 PM (qBGUl)
Posted by: Jean at November 06, 2012 07:14 PM (hrAg/)
Posted by: jaimo at November 06, 2012 07:14 PM (zujTK)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 07:14 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: ALL_IS_LOST at November 06, 2012 07:14 PM (T/L2Z)
Posted by: tasker at November 06, 2012 07:14 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 06, 2012 07:14 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 07:14 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at November 06, 2012 07:14 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Gerry at November 06, 2012 07:14 PM (QK54y)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 06, 2012 07:14 PM (C9cFc)
Posted by: steevy at November 06, 2012 07:14 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Craig Poe at November 06, 2012 07:15 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 11:13 PM (9+ccr)
Exactly right - it really is as simple as that. 50% of the people are simply not going to vote against their own self-interest (getting free stuff).
Posted by: Not an Artist at November 06, 2012 07:15 PM (uRumV)
Posted by: Lee (in KY) at November 06, 2012 07:15 PM (jgXna)
Posted by: jaimo at November 06, 2012 07:15 PM (zujTK)
Posted by: toliver at November 06, 2012 07:15 PM (fCAbm)
OH called ....and probably not incorrectly.
Posted by: jjdcoach at November 06, 2012 07:15 PM (EC1Pt)
I'm trying to provide uplift, not suggest this is a good outcome.
I'll stop if it's just going to get me yelled at.
Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 07:15 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: gayle in ca at November 06, 2012 07:15 PM (wgmUB)
OH called for Obama.
Still very close but Cleveland still mostly out.
And that, my friends, is that.
Posted by: AussieMarcus at November 06, 2012 07:15 PM (RstsB)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 07:15 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 06, 2012 07:15 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 06, 2012 07:15 PM (Q0B9b)
Posted by: Serious Cat at November 06, 2012 07:15 PM (zrpqj)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 07:15 PM (piMMO)
Someone explain to me why I am bothering to work. I'm not kidding, I see no reason why.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at November 06, 2012 07:15 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Country Singer, who's hoarding ammo and food just in case at November 06, 2012 07:15 PM (meVGV)
Posted by: boulder hobo used to live right by a black neighbourhood at November 06, 2012 07:16 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: TheGarbone at November 06, 2012 07:16 PM (cEDzL)
Posted by: BigDaddyD at November 06, 2012 07:16 PM (S4N/h)
Minnesota has only 32% reporting. Romney is soooo close there.
Pennsylvania has 76% reporting. Romney still has a chance there.
Wisconsin has 41% reporting and Romney has pulled past Zero.
Check the election map at Fox News and don't despair!
Posted by: MarzipanFran at November 06, 2012 07:16 PM (rHIsx)
Posted by: Boone at November 06, 2012 07:16 PM (tIyK2)
Posted by: TheOtherJay at November 06, 2012 07:16 PM (nojhZ)
Posted by: tasker at November 06, 2012 07:16 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at November 06, 2012 07:16 PM (yJYwC)
Posted by: esch at November 06, 2012 07:16 PM (9XVgh)
Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 07:16 PM (JycCV)
If in the end we have to look for villains, yes, I would point to them.
But: that's very different from blaming social conservatives per se or in general. Many of whom I respect, and whose support I'm grateful for (though I'm not a socon myself).
It's just the fucking politically retarded (I denounce myself) socons that I despise. And who likely have cost us the Senate, no matter how the presidency goes.
Posted by: lael at November 06, 2012 07:16 PM (tUcg9)
Posted by: The Dude at November 06, 2012 07:16 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: Boomer at November 06, 2012 07:16 PM (B9oZc)
Posted by: CarolT at November 06, 2012 07:16 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: steevy at November 06, 2012 07:16 PM (9XBK2)
Because those aren't normally counted in with the regular ones?
Posted by: Al at November 06, 2012 07:17 PM (MzQOZ)
Posted by: Jolly Roger at November 06, 2012 07:17 PM (AiZkN)
Posted by: AnnaS at November 06, 2012 07:17 PM (INyZp)
Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at November 06, 2012 07:17 PM (WwR1j)
Posted by: some dope at November 06, 2012 07:17 PM (+kznc)
Posted by: tasker at November 06, 2012 11:16 PM (r2PLg)
Sorry, I'm gonna puke... Four more tears, four more tears...
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 07:17 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 06, 2012 07:17 PM (C9cFc)
And, we'll default on our second. They'll pick up the tab.
I think I hurt myself just now.
Can't work anymore.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at November 06, 2012 07:17 PM (Qxdfp)
Posted by: gayle in ca at November 06, 2012 11:08 PM (wgmUB)
Uh, no.
More than anything, I'm looking forward to the day I renounce Canadian citizenship. The only amazing thing about the country is the sacrifice brave Canadian men and women have made for freedom around the world.
But now, with Human Rights Commisions, and so many other reasons, I loathe this country. Memorial Day is so sad. I always wonder if this is the country those young men gave their lives for.
Posted by: Stateless_Infidel at November 06, 2012 07:17 PM (AC0lD)
Posted by: Damiano at November 06, 2012 07:17 PM (yikVS)
If 50% of people will not let go of their free stuff, then we have to figure out a way not to "donate" that free stuff from our income.
Posted by: gayle in ca at November 06, 2012 07:17 PM (wgmUB)
Posted by: tasker at November 06, 2012 07:17 PM (r2PLg)
Ohio appears to be going for Obama.
So the time that Romney spent in Pennsylvania was really a big waste of time.
So it appears that Obama has won re-election. Lucky us.
Barf.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at November 06, 2012 07:17 PM (Md8Uo)
I hate to be this way but, seriously: Your forefathers endured 4 years of war with Hitler.
And the modern Republican party would probably try to reach out to the Germans by nominating a Budweiser/Baravilli ticket...
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 06, 2012 07:17 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: WAGOPinTX at November 06, 2012 07:17 PM (fXInK)
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 06, 2012 07:17 PM (r1+nK)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 06, 2012 07:17 PM (3Y7RV)
Posted by: the clubfooted unshaven pegleg at November 06, 2012 07:17 PM (Q2wni)
Posted by: toliver at November 06, 2012 07:17 PM (fCAbm)
Posted by: angler at November 06, 2012 07:17 PM (kNw0i)
Posted by: Peaches welcomes President Romney at November 06, 2012 07:17 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 11:15 PM (piMMO)
Agree 100%
Posted by: George W Beagle at November 06, 2012 07:17 PM (JwW4z)
But, obviously, splitting the country ain't going to happen if people are resigned to the status quo.
Posted by: BS Inc. at November 06, 2012 07:17 PM (P2Ufm)
The Republican Party has not had a convincing presidential election victory since 1988.
The cities have the overwhelming majority of the US population now, and most people in cities vote for government benefits and regulations.
There is no doubt a lot of foul play going on in this election as committed by the Democrats.
If you liked the last four years, you'll love the next forty.
Posted by: Thinker at November 06, 2012 07:17 PM (toa9p)
Whether we stay the same country is a different story. We will probably turn into an even more fascist state than we are now.
Posted by: NWConservative at November 06, 2012 07:18 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 07:18 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 07:18 PM (JycCV)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 07:18 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 06, 2012 07:18 PM (3Y7RV)
Posted by: Nickie Goomba at November 06, 2012 07:18 PM (PAb+f)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at November 06, 2012 07:18 PM (ZOf1l)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at November 06, 2012 07:18 PM (Md8Uo)
Not sure how you fight that.
Posted by: Mullaney at November 06, 2012 07:18 PM (s8XaI)
Posted by: WAGOPinTX at November 06, 2012 07:18 PM (fXInK)
Posted by: tasker at November 06, 2012 07:18 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Rich at November 06, 2012 11:09 PM (arczc)
Because,apparently, the bulk of the residents of America want light-weight, pie-in-the-sky bullshitters. They are weak and insubstantial people who are willing to be led in return for being allowed to indulge themselves in their personal amusements. They are worthless people.
Posted by: tubal at November 06, 2012 07:18 PM (BoE3Z)
Posted by: Lee (in KY) at November 06, 2012 07:18 PM (jgXna)
That's what they've been doing for the past 20 years and how's that working out for them? Sorry, but the majority of Hispanic and black voters are simply more concerned with gaining the spoils of identity politics and government handouts to go conservative and increasingly that's true of younger whites and the older Boomer AARP "don't touch my Social Security" crowd as well. In the mean time, as they've vainly pursued the minority vote, the Republicans have effectively abandoned and alienated the white middle class.
Posted by: tommy at November 06, 2012 07:18 PM (Ufxn1)
Thank you all for keeping my hopes up.
CNN calls for Obama.
OHIO called
Posted by: jjdcoach at November 06, 2012 07:18 PM (EC1Pt)
Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at November 06, 2012 07:18 PM (WwR1j)
Posted by: ken at November 06, 2012 07:18 PM (KSgPs)
Posted by: tasker at November 06, 2012 07:18 PM (r2PLg)
4 years of gloating.
And Obama saying "I won".
And telling congress "I won".
And the parties.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at November 06, 2012 07:18 PM (Qxdfp)
Posted by: Freemo at November 06, 2012 07:18 PM (JLlNK)
Akin and Mourdock killed us.
No, it was Chris Christie. He got even for being passed over for VP.
Posted by: Decaf at November 06, 2012 07:19 PM (+Bpfx)
You will be required to buy ObamaCare insurance.
Don't.
Make it implode - and then the fight will be over "single payer".
If America wants socialized medicine, then free enterprise is doomed.
Posted by: Gerry at November 06, 2012 07:19 PM (QK54y)
Posted by: NWConservative at November 06, 2012 07:19 PM (M1gmo)
Don't be ridiculous, Cubs fans never have hope to start with.
It's over. I have worked hard all my life, saved and invested, and I will live the rest of my life in poverty. Because, Obama.
This is considered a tremendous victory by half of the country.
Hey, at least now I'll be able to get my student loans completely forgiven. You know that's coming.
Seriously, fuck this shit. If this is how it's going to be, then I'm going to milk the system for all it's worth.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at November 06, 2012 07:19 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: toliver at November 06, 2012 07:19 PM (fCAbm)
Posted by: Boomer at November 06, 2012 07:19 PM (B9oZc)
So that AOS HQ map was pretty useless and off the mark.
Posted by: the clubfooted unshaven pegleg at November 06, 2012 07:19 PM (Q2wni)
Posted by: Serious Cat at November 06, 2012 07:19 PM (zrpqj)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, ROMNEY/RYAN2012 at November 06, 2012 07:19 PM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: lael at November 06, 2012 11:16 PM (tUcg9)
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You're wrong. What has killed us is over 100 years of creeping socilism. And most recently the indoctrination centers some call our public education system.
Posted by: Soona at November 06, 2012 07:19 PM (pbU/y)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 07:19 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: madamex at November 06, 2012 07:19 PM (+kvQd)
Posted by: tasker at November 06, 2012 07:20 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 07:20 PM (piMMO)
If they were impartial, the results would be very different. Until we address this problem, rinse and repeat.
I pray some major fraud or reporting errors are discovered. When I think about all of the support, the crowds, the newspaper endorsement shifts, the military support, the unemployment rate, the intense dislike of Obamacare, Benghazi... the results we are seeing tonight just don't add up.
Posted by: Mayday at November 06, 2012 07:20 PM (F3s39)
THey also called Wisconsin and pulled it back.
If Romney concedes we are truly fucked but we have a chance if he pulls a Gore.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 06, 2012 07:20 PM (cLAkX)
The old United States died for good when Republican politicians bought into the romance surrounding mass-immigration (illegal and legal) nonsense, and gave up on the public education system. Bringing in tens of millions of new voters from socialist systems and handing over entire generations to socialist teachers has effects - how surprising.
Posted by: MlR at November 06, 2012 07:20 PM (vR2l5)
Posted by: WAGOPinTX at November 06, 2012 07:20 PM (fXInK)
Posted by: teej says go K-State at November 06, 2012 07:20 PM (QbKVX)
Posted by: someguy at November 06, 2012 07:20 PM (sEXZ/)
If we lose, that's exactly how I feel, too.
Posted by: lael at November 06, 2012 07:20 PM (tUcg9)
Posted by: Africanus at November 06, 2012 07:21 PM (Tcf77)
Posted by: steevy at November 06, 2012 07:21 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Freemo at November 06, 2012 11:18 PM (JLlNK)
To really depress you, it's not 4 more years. It's a permanent shift in the electorate.
Posted by: Mullaney at November 06, 2012 07:21 PM (s8XaI)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 07:21 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: COUNTRY294 at November 06, 2012 07:21 PM (LjGRA)
Sarah Palin would have gotten her head bashed in and lost even worse.
There WAS no other candidate that could've made it closer.
Romney made several mistakes:
1) not hitting Obama harder on foreign policy
2) chasing the phony white whale of Pennsylvania
3) Some weak downticket races that pulled him down, especially Josh Mandel as a Senate candidate in Ohio. And I've got a Josh Mandel sign in my yard.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at November 06, 2012 07:21 PM (Md8Uo)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 07:21 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: MidGeorgian at November 06, 2012 07:21 PM (qBGUl)
The only way to beat an incumbent is to absolutely defeat him. You can't beat an incumbent with niceness.
I'm sure he's a fine man, but he has failed us.
Posted by: Thinker at November 06, 2012 07:21 PM (toa9p)
Posted by: Not an Artist at November 06, 2012 07:21 PM (uRumV)
Do realize what % of voters are "so cons" or "value voters".
Would you feel better with a 75% D'ohbama triumph?
Posted by: Gerry at November 06, 2012 07:21 PM (QK54y)
Posted by: NomDeWeb at November 06, 2012 07:22 PM (83Vv1)
Posted by: USS Diversity at November 06, 2012 07:22 PM (9ghZ6)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at November 06, 2012 11:19 PM (Gk3SS)
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Like I said, after I remodel the house, I'm quiting my job and milking the system also. It' won't pay to work anymore.
Posted by: Soona at November 06, 2012 07:22 PM (pbU/y)
Even given that the mass Media has lied and hidden the facts to aid him.
We're still faced with 4 more years of this administration. (I don't hold him accountable anymore. He's a facade. A puppet to display. He was born and bred for that role and he's played it as far as he is able. It's his advisers and other shadowy individuals that are the problem)
If after what he's done in 4 years to sink this country, who (other than the naive 53% that's voted for him again) thinks things will not get worse?
I am glad that the county I live in voted Republican. At first they showed it as blue and I couldn't believe I misjudged folks up close and personal but then later they changed it to red. Surrounded by blue. *sigh*
At least I won't have to move out of disgust. It was a close thing.
We're in a zombie movie only this time the zombies are sucking the lifeblood our of the country. See you on the other side of four years. If we make it.
Posted by: Jcw46 at November 06, 2012 07:22 PM (SP4jC)
Posted by: Havedash at November 06, 2012 11:11 PM (ToMJU)
This. And what this election proves is that the sexism and xenophobia we on the Right are falsely accused of, and we have constantly fought to distance ourselves from, was actually the most well justified view. It's not the milk-toast male of European ancestry who's vote fucked this country. It was, well, all the others. Only now, at the end, do we understand.
Posted by: Reactionary at November 06, 2012 07:22 PM (jfeoD)
Posted by: MidGeorgian at November 06, 2012 07:22 PM (qBGUl)
Posted by: tofer732 at November 06, 2012 07:22 PM (m5Iwq)
Posted by: trickamsterdam at November 06, 2012 07:22 PM (uTBHY)
Posted by: tasker at November 06, 2012 07:23 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Tickled Pink at November 06, 2012 07:23 PM (LiCO6)
Posted by: madamex at November 06, 2012 07:23 PM (+kvQd)
I don't want to hear shit about being and eyeore or some other shit.
This country has lived through four years of the worst President in modern history and the Republic has signed up for four more.
AMERICA IS NOW PEOPLED BY BLITHERING IDIOTS!
Exit polls have said that Obama will deal better with unemployment than Mitt Romney?
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!!!
Posted by: General Woundwort at November 06, 2012 07:23 PM (0fxcV)
Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at November 06, 2012 07:23 PM (WwR1j)
Posted by: TheOtherJay at November 06, 2012 07:23 PM (nojhZ)
Our biggest threat is the media.
If they were impartial, the results would be very different. Until we address this problem, rinse and repeat.
Absolutely. The media's business model was/is incompatible with capitalism so they just made sure that they will be nationalised and subsidized. They all win. Whether anyone watches or reads them is immaterial.
Posted by: Decaf at November 06, 2012 07:23 PM (+Bpfx)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 06, 2012 07:23 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: DTShangers at November 06, 2012 07:23 PM (IYGz8)
Posted by: Robert at November 06, 2012 07:23 PM (LUnTP)
I feel like Chris Christie's Ass or a mobile home == double wide.
Posted by: Jcw46 at November 06, 2012 07:23 PM (SP4jC)
Posted by: NomDeWeb at November 06, 2012 11:22 PM (83Vv
Sorry, but that's it. I am not gonna watch any news for two or more months... I will check in with you but I seriously can not believe this... Fuck the stupid morons that voted for obama... you are to blame...
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 07:23 PM (9+ccr)
I guess people must have voted out of revenge - or something.
Certainly not for love of country.
Love of free stuff is more like it.
Posted by: Marybeth at November 06, 2012 07:24 PM (fkaOH)
You kind of needs 2/3rds of the senate for that to work.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 06, 2012 07:24 PM (xKC/c)
You can't blame Romney for stupid remarks by GOP candidates or weak downticket candidates. There is nothing he could have done about those things.
Posted by: Looking closely at November 06, 2012 07:24 PM (+PDlV)
Posted by: Dave in Houston at November 06, 2012 07:24 PM (wB5dd)
If they were impartial, the results would be very different. Until we address this problem, rinse and repeat.
I pray some major fraud or reporting errors are discovered. When I think about all of the support, the crowds, the newspaper endorsement shifts, the military support, the unemployment rate, the intense dislike of Obamacare, Benghazi... the results we are seeing tonight just don't add up.
Posted by: Mayday at November 06, 2012 11:20 PM (F3s39)
THIS... And the fact that we are seeing the complete victory of the "everybody gets a trophy for participating" system (sorry for my inept writing). How can anyone with half a brain elect and then RE-ELECT someone so completely unqualified to even get elected dogcatcher in the OLD USofA...
Posted by: George W Beagle at November 06, 2012 07:24 PM (JwW4z)
Posted by: Manolo at November 06, 2012 07:24 PM (PttbO)
Posted by: boulder hobo at November 06, 2012 07:24 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: ALL_IS_LOST at November 06, 2012 07:25 PM (T/L2Z)
This country has lived through four years of the worst President in modern history and the Republic has signed up for four more.
AMERICA IS NOW PEOPLED BY BLITHERING IDIOTS!
Posted by: General Woundwort at November 06, 2012 11:23 PM (0fxcV)
Amen.
Posted by: Mullaney at November 06, 2012 07:25 PM (s8XaI)
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Screw blaming "us." I and everyone else who vote for Romney did NOT do this and do not deserve any of the rot that may follow.
Posted by: Mayday at November 06, 2012 07:25 PM (F3s39)
Doesn't mean we can't carve out our own happiness in this life. You may feel down tonight but tomorrow start living life for yourself and family. Find the good in life and be happy, don't let the bastards win.
Posted by: lowandslow at November 06, 2012 07:25 PM (GZitp)
The old United States died for goodwhen Republican politiciansbought into the romance surroundingmass-immigration (illegal and legal) nonsense, and gave up on the public education system. Bringing intens of millions of new voters from socialist systems and handing over entire generations to socialist teachers has effects - how surprising.
Posted by: MlR at November 06, 2012 11:20 PM (vR2l5)
^^ This. Then fill the Congressional ranks with milquetoasts like Boehner and you have a fucked over Republic. Sorry Jefferson, Madison, Washington et al - I kept the faith. RIP Republic, hello fucking socialism.
Posted by: Linlithgow at November 06, 2012 07:25 PM (Gim9y)
Posted by: Gerry at November 06, 2012 07:25 PM (QK54y)
Yes. This!
Makes you realize its time to spit upon your hands and hoist the flag, eh?
Posted by: Fast becoming Furious at November 06, 2012 07:25 PM (Xa1VJ)
Posted by: Mullaney at November 06, 2012 11:21 PM (s8XaI)
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This. The Great Experiment is over.
Posted by: Soona at November 06, 2012 07:26 PM (pbU/y)
BAHAHAHA
With less in the House and the Senate? HAHAHAHAHA... Not gonna happen. No obama can do what ever he wants now and will put two or three communists in the SCOTUS... At least I'm not responsible ...
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 07:26 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: steevy at November 06, 2012 07:26 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 06, 2012 07:26 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Manolo at November 06, 2012 11:24 PM (PttbO)
Come on down to Texas - there's plenty of room and maybe we'll get smart and secede...
Posted by: George W Beagle at November 06, 2012 07:26 PM (JwW4z)
Posted by: Freemo at November 06, 2012 07:27 PM (JLlNK)
Posted by: Not an Artist at November 06, 2012 07:27 PM (uRumV)
Posted by: TheOtherJay at November 06, 2012 07:27 PM (nojhZ)
991 votes separating Obama and Romney in Ohio. Yet the networks called it for Ohio. 77% of the vote is in. Still too close.
Fuck those guys.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at November 06, 2012 07:27 PM (Md8Uo)
Posted by: jjdcoach at November 06, 2012 07:27 PM (EC1Pt)
Posted by: Fat Ass at November 06, 2012 07:27 PM (4nxhP)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at November 06, 2012 07:27 PM (kXoT0)
Obama has radically transformed the country and there is no path back. It would be the work of generations to undo what has been done and that will not happen once everyone is on the dole. Our demographics have changed and free men do not control any of the outlets of information or any of the levers of power.
We have shown ourselves to be a racist and Marxist nation. It is both sickening and shocking and there are not words to express the sorrow that is to come. Losing an election is nothing. We just lost the last free country on earth. We lost what few shreds of our Constitution were left and the principles on which the country was founded are now no longer operable.
This is literally a whole new ballgame now. It is a whole new world. The US was Helm's Deep where good and decent people could flee when their own countries became too tyrannical. Now there is literally no where left on earth where a man might live and be free to any significant degree.
As an atheist, all I can say is God help us all.
Posted by: Voluble at November 06, 2012 07:27 PM (qYvEa)
Posted by: Jcw46 at November 06, 2012 07:28 PM (SP4jC)
Posted by: Manolo at November 06, 2012 07:28 PM (PttbO)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at November 06, 2012 07:28 PM (ZOf1l)
Anyone else feel like Sarah Connor at the end of the first Terminator movie? I do and I plan on preparing myself and my family accordingly.
In any event, thanks to Ace and the cobs for all of their work and for this place. This result isn't an indictment of any prognosticators or even our candidate. It's an indictment of what a disturbingly large number of the American people have become. They, however, will suffer the most in the long run.
Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at November 06, 2012 07:28 PM (qtKqj)
Posted by: sawhorse at November 06, 2012 07:28 PM (MVgm3)
Posted by: Boomer at November 06, 2012 07:28 PM (B9oZc)
Posted by: COUNTRY294 at November 06, 2012 07:28 PM (LjGRA)
Posted by: JustLikeDavidHasselhoff at November 06, 2012 07:28 PM (MNWe/)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon
Im thinking the same thing. What a fool I've been! Learning, educating myself, serving in the mitary, being a wife, sister, mother, etc.
Let's all go Galt!
Posted by: Cheri at November 06, 2012 07:28 PM (EAgmr)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 06, 2012 07:29 PM (X3lox)
Perhaps putting forward candidates that think women have magic vaginas isn't the best way to power
Posted by: Brad at November 06, 2012 11:19 PM (KzWwC)
Fuck you. May be if single women and hispanics (as groups) had any sense of civic virtue or patriotism they'd be allies. But I see no evidence of that. They're like any other special interest parasite group. No sense of the national good. It's just a resource grab when they vote - making them unshakable voters for socialism/communism. Pandering to them has no value.
Posted by: Reactionary at November 06, 2012 07:29 PM (jfeoD)
these are late teens -20s.
gonna be fun.
nice future we got here
Posted by: willow at November 06, 2012 07:29 PM (hX8cq)
Just will not vote for a white man....
Posted by: AussieMarcus at November 06, 2012 10:51 PM
I admired your poll analysis contributions, as with other posters. But I just couldn't see a win happening. Didn't ever say anything due to the eeyore effect. But this election for the R's was just not on the cards, despite 2010. Romney/Ryan was a good ticket. Maybe not perfect, but good enough all things considered. The problem is Obama and the MSM etc. Obama was not going to be allowed to lose 2008 and he was never going to be allowed to lose 2012. America was not going to be able to sack the AA president. Fraud and the rest of it added in, the MSM still has the clout to get what it wants. Jugears would have needed to sabotage himself to get fired. People are pulling the lever for the indonesian imbecile, because it would be racist not to. Things aren't the same and people aren't as reliable as they were years ago.
Looking at the big picture and the media, this was always going to be a Barry love fest till the bitter end. No matter what he fucking did wrong.
I hope the results change though.
Posted by: otho at November 06, 2012 07:29 PM (yBF/9)
One day at a time.
One hour at a time.
I've been through that. I've bled, quite literally, to get to where I am today. I've fought and struggled and why? For what? To watch as half the country decides they want what I've earned?
Let me be as clear as I can be: I did not party, I did not sleep around, I did not do drugs, I did not drink heavily, I studied, I worked, I put my nose to the grindstone to have some tiny, tiny measure of success. I tried to do the right thing. For that I will be punished.
The moral of the story truly is never try.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at November 06, 2012 07:29 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 06, 2012 07:29 PM (r1+nK)
And the vote is close enough in Florida is close enough to trigger a recall.
Rove is giving those assholes a ration of shit, in a nice way.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at November 06, 2012 07:29 PM (Md8Uo)
With the worst unemployment in 80 years, a Senate that hasn't passed a budget in 3+ years, a POTUS who won't send in troops to help an embassy under attack, let alone can articulate a plan for the next four years of his administration, the country re-elects him?
Yeah, I think we have reached a tipping point here.
Things are definitely going to get worse before they get better.
Next on the agenda, massive tax hikes (further depressing our economy) and the possibility of a major conflagration in the Middle East. Yay/
Posted by: Looking closely at November 06, 2012 07:30 PM (+PDlV)
Posted by: Soona at November 06, 2012 07:30 PM (pbU/y)
Posted by: Manolo at November 06, 2012 07:30 PM (PttbO)
Posted by: Doctor Cynic at November 06, 2012 07:30 PM (BZjb6)
haha... ha... oh stop it, you're killing me.
Posted by: boulder hobo at November 06, 2012 07:30 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Mullaney at November 06, 2012 11:21 PM (s8XaI)
This. The Great Experiment is over.
Posted by: Soona at November 06, 2012 11:26 PM (pbU/y)
Nail. Head. America is no longer what it was. For those of us who want to remain in what America was, the only alternative is to find suitable areas of the country where that way of life remains. And be willing to fight the fight to preserve it.
Posted by: tubal at November 06, 2012 07:30 PM (BoE3Z)
Hey Brad I hope you DIAF.....seriously, I hope something bad happens to you and the rest of the mooching class.
Posted by: Reggie Love at November 06, 2012 07:30 PM (9LHgH)
Posted by: Dave M at November 06, 2012 07:30 PM (xoO2K)
With less in the House and the Senate? HAHAHAHAHA... Not gonna happen. No obama can do what ever he wants now and will put two or three communists in the SCOTUS... At least I'm not responsible ...
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 11:26 PM (9+ccr)
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You are not getting my point. An Impeachment proceeding in the House would put a stop to anything Barky wants to do. Whether the Senate votes to convict him doesn't matter. We have to stop the SOB somehow. Yeah, we can't do anything about the Supremes - that's over. But we can stop any legislation in the house plus put a stain on this presidency forever.
Posted by: Not an Artist at November 06, 2012 07:30 PM (uRumV)
Posted by: Different Greg at November 06, 2012 07:31 PM (qAMin)
Rove is right - how the hell do you call Ohio when there is only 75% of the vote in, and a 2,000 vote difference?
Posted by: tofer732 at November 06, 2012 07:31 PM (m5Iwq)
Posted by: TheOtherJay at November 06, 2012 07:31 PM (nojhZ)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 06, 2012 07:31 PM (X3lox)
From now on Obama will be able to play golf all day every day. His work is done. His czars kick in now.
Posted by: Decaf at November 06, 2012 07:31 PM (+Bpfx)
Posted by: RSBejmls at November 06, 2012 07:32 PM (appcA)
Posted by: tofer732 at November 06, 2012 07:32 PM (m5Iwq)
Posted by: TheOtherJay at November 06, 2012 07:33 PM (nojhZ)
Yes, and an unpopular Impeachment proceeding from the House can lose the Republican majority there.
Just keep thinking up these really great ideas.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at November 06, 2012 07:33 PM (Md8Uo)
Welcome to The Imperial Era of the North American continent.
Soon to be aligned with the Caliphate to be erected in Turkey.
Better learn which was Mecca bitches. Oh and buy a rug.
You wimmins that voted for your dreamy con man? Get into that Hijab.
Oh and all you gays? Line up against that wall will you? We want to take your . . picture. Yeah that's it; your picture.
Posted by: Jcw46 at November 06, 2012 07:33 PM (SP4jC)
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Exactly. What the hell is the GOP supposed to become? Democrat-lite? There's nothing there anymore. We've crossed the line and become Europe where there are right-of-center parties and left-of-center parties, but they're all really just varying degrees of socialist.
Posted by: Mullaney at November 06, 2012 07:33 PM (s8XaI)
Posted by: Manolo at November 06, 2012 07:33 PM (PttbO)
Posted by: madamex at November 06, 2012 07:33 PM (+kvQd)
Posted by: I'd Rather Be Surfin at November 06, 2012 07:34 PM (U9J3H)
Posted by: Boomer at November 06, 2012 07:35 PM (B9oZc)
Posted by: Decaf at November 06, 2012 07:35 PM (+Bpfx)
the collapse will come sooner.
Posted by: willow at November 06, 2012 07:35 PM (hX8cq)
Posted by: ALL_IS_LOST at November 06, 2012 07:35 PM (T/L2Z)
Posted by: Red Shirt at November 06, 2012 07:35 PM (FIDMq)
Posted by: Tickled Pink at November 06, 2012 07:36 PM (LiCO6)
718,
"Our biggest threat is the media"
Yup. Wouldn't it be nice if Republicans attacked the media and entertainment industry with the same vengeance that the Democrats use when they attack oil, coal and pretty much any other productive industry? Excise taxes on movie ticket sales, repealing tax breaks for entertainment companies and artfully crafted taxes on media parent corporations would be a nice start.
But that will never happen. Too many Republicans politicians and "conservatives" would rather bitch about media and entertainment bias than actually do anything about it.
Posted by: Ernie McCracken at November 06, 2012 07:36 PM (ZETiK)
Boner's having special pants made with a back flap so's he can take in the ass from Obama or any Democrat on demand.
McConnell's got a pretty (and tight) mouth so he's all set.
Posted by: Jcw46 at November 06, 2012 07:36 PM (SP4jC)
Posted by: Manolo at November 06, 2012 07:36 PM (PttbO)
Ohio isn't enough at this point anyway.
Anyone have an approximation of the final popular vote tally?
Posted by: Looking closely at November 06, 2012 07:37 PM (+PDlV)
I stand grim and ready for whatever fate throws my way. I am not afraid. I'm an American man.
Posted by: Fast becoming Furious at November 06, 2012 07:37 PM (Xa1VJ)
Posted by: Tickled Pink at November 06, 2012 11:36 PM (LiCO6)
It has just been demonstrated that socialism is accepted by enough residents of the United States, to ensure its' decline.
Posted by: tubal at November 06, 2012 07:38 PM (BoE3Z)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at November 06, 2012 07:38 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: @PurpAv at November 06, 2012 07:38 PM (3U/m2)
Posted by: Freemo at November 06, 2012 11:18 PM (JLlNK)
I know how you feel.
Posted by: rrpjr at November 06, 2012 07:38 PM (IDaTB)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 06, 2012 07:38 PM (X3lox)
The young are screwed the worst by this, it's really too bad.
How bad off will we be in the Senate?
Posted by: Meremortal at November 06, 2012 07:38 PM (1Y+hH)
Belgium recently went for years without a parliamentary majority. For all I know it still doesn't have a "government". Yet, it is still governed. It has a King as head of state and it has a bureaucracy.
I would have preferred a better king than Barack I, but he's the king we deserve.
Posted by: boulder hobo at November 06, 2012 07:39 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: madamex at November 06, 2012 07:39 PM (+kvQd)
Posted by: War69.com at November 06, 2012 07:39 PM (ayPhb)
Posted by: Moses Hong-Levinson at November 06, 2012 07:39 PM (Qk4RS)
With the first debate, a big chunk of the population saw Eastwood's empty chair being hacked apart by Romney. Obama is going to find it a lot harder to skate by on aura this term.
Posted by: Looking closely at November 06, 2012 07:40 PM (+PDlV)
Posted by: concrete girl at November 06, 2012 07:40 PM (y2Ojs)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at November 06, 2012 07:40 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: TheOtherJay at November 06, 2012 07:42 PM (nojhZ)
Posted by: Manolo at November 06, 2012 07:42 PM (PttbO)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at November 06, 2012 07:42 PM (kXoT0)
2nd Civil War is on its way....I'm ready. I had an ancestor that died at Gettsyburgh. I'm ready to uphold my family and nation. I am a veteran and I love the USA
Posted by: Cheri at November 06, 2012 07:42 PM (EAgmr)
Posted by: Constance Harrison at November 06, 2012 07:42 PM (JwW4z)
Posted by: TheOtherJay at November 06, 2012 11:33 PM (nojhZ)
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That's the problem. The majority of this country is dishonest.
Posted by: Soona at November 06, 2012 07:43 PM (pbU/y)
Posted by: Manolo at November 06, 2012 07:44 PM (PttbO)
Posted by: Constance Harrison at November 06, 2012 11:42 PM (JwW4z)
Same thing that happened in 2000, 2004, and 2008. If you are in the military, you don't get to vote absentee, some idiot on Facebook can brag about voting 5 times, but, no vote for you.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at November 06, 2012 07:44 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Soona at November 06, 2012 11:43 PM (pbU/y)
At least, we are in By God, Oklahoma....
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at November 06, 2012 07:45 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Cheri at November 06, 2012 11:42 PM (EAgmr)
We must talk of secession first. I can't believe I'm writing this.
Posted by: Soona at November 06, 2012 07:46 PM (pbU/y)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 06, 2012 07:47 PM (3Y7RV)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at November 06, 2012 07:47 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Boomer at November 06, 2012 07:47 PM (B9oZc)
Posted by: Soona at November 06, 2012 11:46 PM (pbU/y)
I can.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at November 06, 2012 07:48 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Manolo at November 06, 2012 07:48 PM (PttbO)
I would rather have that. Let the rats feed upon themselves.
and I can't believe that I'm writing this either.
Posted by: Cheri at November 06, 2012 07:48 PM (EAgmr)
Posted by: Tickled Pink at November 06, 2012 07:48 PM (LiCO6)
Posted by: Craig Poe at November 06, 2012 07:48 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: ALL_IS_LOST at November 06, 2012 07:49 PM (T/L2Z)
After Megyn Kelly's performance tonight, and after Fox held North Carolina results for hours even after AP called it for Romney, am done.
I hate all of these people and will not give them a dime.
And will not do anything to support the government beyond what I have to do to not get arrested.
Posted by: Miss Marple at November 06, 2012 07:50 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at November 06, 2012 11:45 PM (kXoT0)
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It's time to bind our ourselves to the red states around us. No one state (even TX) can't do it on their own.
Posted by: Soona at November 06, 2012 07:50 PM (pbU/y)
Obama even said he's learned that he's going to have to work with the House better if he were re-elected.
Why would he do that when executives orders have worked wonders for him until now?
Posted by: Decaf at November 06, 2012 07:50 PM (+Bpfx)
Yeah that 47% comment was campaign brilliance!
Posted by: doesky at November 06, 2012 07:51 PM (z778V)
A big FU to George W. Bush who let half of Mexico into our country during his 8 years. Maybe we should just import half of France while we're at it and let them select our 2016 president.
Posted by: JustLikeDavidHasselhoff at November 06, 2012 07:52 PM (MNWe/)
The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.
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This x1000!
Posted by: Soona at November 06, 2012 07:53 PM (pbU/y)
Posted by: trickamsterdam at November 06, 2012 07:53 PM (uTBHY)
Posted by: ALL_IS_LOST at November 06, 2012 07:53 PM (T/L2Z)
I can't help but think that if we had a mainstream media that acted like a free press, the result would have been different tonight.
Whether it was Fast & Furious, the Green Energy boondoggle, Benghazi, or Hurricane Sandy (Katrina, part 2), the press decided that reelection was more important than the truth.
Posted by: tofer732 at November 06, 2012 07:54 PM (m5Iwq)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 06, 2012 07:54 PM (3Y7RV)
Miss Marple,
I'm with you sister. I feel like quitting my job tomorrow and just hide away getting my govt checks. but I can't. I have too much self respect.
Posted by: Cheri at November 06, 2012 07:54 PM (EAgmr)
Posted by: ALL_IS_LOST at November 06, 2012 07:55 PM (T/L2Z)
Posted by: Soona at November 06, 2012 11:46 PM (pbU/y)
I can.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at November 06, 2012 11:48 PM (kXoT0)
I think that's the future. Peacefully telling the Federal Govt to screw themselves, as in Arizona.
Posted by: JustLikeDavidHasselhoff at November 06, 2012 07:56 PM (MNWe/)
Posted by: sandbagger at November 06, 2012 07:59 PM (XkWVz)
Posted by: trickamsterdam at November 06, 2012 11:53 PM (uTBHY)
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Not until after I see your face when you find out how much more in taxes and healthcare you'll have to pay.
Posted by: Soona at November 06, 2012 08:00 PM (pbU/y)
Posted by: tofer732 at November 06, 2012 08:00 PM (m5Iwq)
I will give no more than is required to the government. I am going to take every legal deduction and stash stuff in my house that can be used as an investment (like cheap estate sale gold and silver).
I am not giving a dime to the media/Hollywood/music/education industry.
And I am going to pray for our country.
Posted by: Miss Marple at November 06, 2012 08:00 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Cheri at November 06, 2012 08:00 PM (EAgmr)
Posted by: Manolo at November 06, 2012 08:01 PM (PttbO)
Posted by: ALL_IS_LOST at November 06, 2012 08:01 PM (T/L2Z)
Posted by: sandbagger at November 06, 2012 11:59 PM (XkWVz)
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God didn't turn from us. A majority of the American people turned their back on him. Let's all remember the dem convention. 3 times they denied God.
Posted by: Soona at November 06, 2012 08:02 PM (pbU/y)
Posted by: Tickled Pink at November 06, 2012 08:02 PM (LiCO6)
Posted by: Manolo at November 06, 2012 08:04 PM (PttbO)
Posted by: Cheri at November 07, 2012 12:00 AM (EAgmr)
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I'm glad my parents and uncles didn't have to see this too. This is saddness beyond expression.
Posted by: Soona at November 06, 2012 08:05 PM (pbU/y)
Posted by: tofer732 at November 06, 2012 08:06 PM (m5Iwq)
Posted by: JustLikeDavidHasselhoff at November 06, 2012 08:06 PM (MNWe/)
Posted by: Manolo at November 06, 2012 08:07 PM (PttbO)
Posted by: trickamsterdam at November 06, 2012 08:08 PM (uTBHY)
I agree. People of faith are about to feel God's chisel on their lives, as CS Lewis expressed it. We are going to become stronger and better even though living through this particular historical moment will thoroughly suck.
Posted by: 56 and loving RR at November 06, 2012 08:08 PM (9zugO)
Posted by: Manolo at November 06, 2012 08:10 PM (PttbO)
Posted by: 56 and loving RR at November 06, 2012 08:12 PM (9zugO)
Posted by: Manolo at November 06, 2012 08:14 PM (PttbO)
Posted by: 56 and loving RR
Thank you - Maybe when we lose a portion of our population perhaps on some coastal state....Terrorism. They are planning and laughting at our weakness.
Posted by: Cheri at November 06, 2012 08:14 PM (EAgmr)
Posted by: Elmer Fudge at November 06, 2012 08:19 PM (8tVOc)
Posted by: Manolo at November 06, 2012 08:19 PM (PttbO)
Posted by: Manolo at November 07, 2012 12:10 AM (PttbO)
Well, it might if they have to enroll in Obamacare...
Posted by: George W Beagle at November 06, 2012 08:21 PM (JwW4z)
Posted by: Manolo at November 06, 2012 08:21 PM (PttbO)
Posted by: mr_jack at November 06, 2012 09:49 PM (TMG3G)
Posted by: jfs at November 06, 2012 09:52 PM (TMG3G)
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