1 First!

2 Did uncle joe find the choom stash?

3
Joe Biden, condescending scrunt of the first order.

4 He was trying to come across as, "I'm the experienced politician. You, Ryan are the newcomer. It's laughable that you think you;re up to this job." I think he was coached to do that in the hope that Ryan would lose his cool and the Dems would win a point that way.

5 What strikes me as funny about this is that democrats for years have decried the talking head style of CAble news debate formats where the heads scream and interupt each other. John the socialist Lebowitz does all the time. But yet that is exactly what they are cheering their VP candidate for turning a debate into.

6 I went to bed thinking I needed bp medicine and a shower after hanging out with crazy Joe.

7 He was a braying jackass. A disgrace as VP. I cannot imagine Dick Cheney EVER acting like that.

8

after a good night's sleep i can say Ryan CLEARLY comes out ahead.

joe made liberal dems happy -- dems that were going to vote for O anyway

ryan won some independents in the middle -- independents that might vote either way

AP had it 51-43 ryan

CNN had it 48-44 ryan

on cnn i think, ryan won on 'presidential', 'likeability', 'cares about people like you' but 10 full points

 

I am flummoxed as to what Joe was doing.... O's problem isn't democrat enthusiasm for white hipsters, it's enthusiasm for latinos & blacks, and poor showing with indpendents

how did last night raise the standing of obama in the eyes of latinos, blacks, or independents?

DISASTER for the dems.

9 This ad is laughable. Just see my reaction: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

10 Simply stated,except with hard core lefty Dems, Biden further damaged the Dem ticket with his grampa asshole act.

11
Stephanie Cutter didn't "catch" Biden lying about intel? 

12 Joey was 'doping' on testosterone. He broke out in a big grin because he got his first woody in half a century.

Of course today his prostate is swollen to the size of a watermelon and he's gonna be sitting down on a donut for the next month.

13 @12 Lies! Watermelons kneel in fear at the size of my glorious prostate!

14 Even after more than 25 years of Uncle Chucklehead, he continues to amaze.

Anyone that thinks that that lunatic is qualified for anything other than shock therapy should lose their voting rights.

He should be relegated to doing children's birthday parties.


.....crack babies and bad seeds

15 Well, at least joe had the sense to swap his daily dentures for his sunday go to meetin dentures.

16 Using an old trick of mine from Clinton's era I muted the sound and watched the visuals... Ryan? Somber and serious. Joe? Everybody's drunk uncle who shows up for dinner, won't go away, and won't shut up.

17 So, after polling the adult women in and around the VIA empire concerning the debate.....
I have three "Biden was a braying jackass of a rude SOB" type responses.
And zero responses supporting Slow Joe.

And this is after one of the three started the night with how she was concerned about the Republican effort to take women's rights backwards by 50 years.

18 4 He was trying to come across as, "I'm the experienced politician. You, Ryan are the newcomer. It's laughable that you think you;re up to this job." I think he was coached to do that in the hope that Ryan would lose his cool and the Dems would win a point that way.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 12, 2012 07:45 AM (0nogT)

Exactly, but I think they didn't prepare Ryan enough on countering this and the moderator ambush.

I think Ryan did a good job in context, but he could have finished Biden being prepared for what should be known to happen.

19 Joe enjoys pointing that finger doesn't he?

20 Yes, Biden was condescending and arrogant. That being said, he got out his talking points, which is battle space preparation for the remaining Romney/Obama debates.

21 That finger pointed annoyed me from the beginning.

22 @19 Hey now, somebody's just earned a pointing. *points at Poet*

23

Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure and Joey the Jackass is his braying idiot.

 

It looked like a tag team match to me, when Ryan was trying to make a point Biden would interject with a laugh, or speak over the top and Martha would stomp on the subject before Ryan was able to hit Plugs over the head with facts more than twice.

24 ryan was a gentleman...looked like he was putting up with the crazy uncle at a holiday dinner....

25 And this is after one of the three started the night with how she was concerned about the Republican effort to take women's rights backwards by 50 years.Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 12, 2012 07:55 AM (m6L2f)

If she thought that then I think your village just found a new idiot's apprentice.

26 Looking ahead, this [why can't I do the nifty formatting anymore?] is worth noting: http://preview.tinyurl.com/8gm9wm8

27 In all the hubbub about the empty chair visual people forgot how Mr. Eastwood described Biden as a grin with a body attached. Clint is a genius.

28
It looked like a tag team match to me, when Ryan was trying to make a point Biden would interject with a laugh, or speak over the top and Martha would stomp on the subject before Ryan was able to hit Plugs over the head with facts more than twice.

Posted by: Gmac at October 12, 2012 08:00 AM (IanLz)

But isn't there a comeback for that, "I think voters want to hear my full answer on this before we change subject".

29 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

30 Joe Biden is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable clusterfuck.

31 27 In all the hubbub about the empty chair visual people forgot how Mr. Eastwood described Biden as a grin with a body attached. Clint is a genius.

Posted by: Tuna at October 12, 2012 08:02 AM (M/TDA)

Oh that's right!  LOL!

32 gee, I wonder who is behind the Wal Mart wildcat strike..

33 @25 I don't think I want a chick for my apprentice.

34 >>>But other than that, WTF was he trying to do here? Pyrrhic victory for Smilin' Joe Fission. You'll notice that nothing Ryan said will get any traction this cycle. It will all be about what a dick Biden was. The left has now expanded it's repertoire to three issues just before the election: Big Bird, Tampons and Crest Whitestrips.

35 Joe took one for the team - he HAD to implode, to get the "WTF was O thinking" debate recriminations go away - for now, and hopefully forever - since it just wouldn't do to have "O sucks at debates" be O's historical epitaph!

36 I don't think Joe Biden came across as an "acceptable alternative" to the people.

37

Uncle Joe, Well you know how he is, usually drunk and always obnoxious. Last night was no different. Same old stupid asshole. Always thinks that just like foreigners "you needs to talk louder so's they will understand you." Douch.

38 That ad needs to be on TV.

39 Somewhere in Delaware, a cathedral is missing a gargoyle.

40 Ah, Joe is "acting" {emoting} to get the low info types to viscerally agree that Ryan is a big joke.

41 Wonder how that ad would play in Michigan, Virginia, Wisconsin, Ohio, and Pennsylvania and Colorado?

42 @35

i have been saying that ryan won the debate by keeping cool and looking as though he was actually serious about the discussion rather than intent on heckling the opponent, but despite ryan's win joe looked like he knew what he was talking about if only because he's been around for so long.  all that's at the margins, but what is most striking now is that mitt romney, joe biden, and paul ryan all seem to know quite a bit more about stuff than the president himself, which draws an even more striking contract between the r^2 ticket and obama and slow joe.

also, i thought the only really good lines in the debate were delivered by ryan.

43 That ad is literally brutal.  Literally. 

44 Well ace has now even stomped on the ad.

45 Drunk nothing, he looked like he was on a hallucinogen.

46

Comparing Joe to Dick Cheney and Joe Lieberman.

 

In the 2000 election cycle, there was the same format with the VP candidates.

 

Joe Lieberman and Dick Cheney behaved like civilized adults.  There was give and take, back and forth, and both men came across as reasonable and thoughtful.  I even remember comments after the debate that people wished more politicians behaved like this, because it seemed to the audience that the two men were actually thinking and considering what each other said.

 

Biden was performing last night, and frankly it was unwatchable to me and I turned it off. I couldn't take much of the lying, braying jackass for more than about 10 minutes.

 

He is, after all, the man that Barack Obama chose to be his running mate, isn't he? 

 

Gutsy call.

47 Joey is trying to get the role of the Joker in the next Batman movie

48 Biden was performing last night, and frankly it was unwatchable to me and I turned it off. I couldn't take much of the lying, braying jackass for more than about 10 minutes. He is, after all, the man that Barack Obama chose to be his running mate, isn't he? Gutsy call. Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes....Free Kratos!! at October 12, 2012 09:07 AM (RFeQD) That's funny, about half way through Mrs. Sailor had me to prepare her a vodka tonic. She just couldn't take Joes B.S.

49 47 Joey is trying to get the role of the Joker in the next Batman movie Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 12, 2012 09:09 AM (1Jaio) I was thinking the Cheshire cat in another tim burton remake of Alice in Wonderland.

50 All Biden did last night was cement his reputation as one of the most idiotic, buffoonish pieces of shit that's ever been elevated to a position of power in this country. I can't believe a grown man would not only think that behaving like a horse's ass in front of the world would be appropriate but also wouldn't feel stupid acting that way. I genuinely question whether the guy is suffering early stages of dementia. He's just a stupid old man. He's also a terrible person. After all, I often have more money in my pocket than he and his wife have often given to charity in entire calendar years.

51 Biden is a glib jackass with the scruples of a rat. I have been talking about reports of his likely brain damage since 2008. Last night he took what would have been a good plan and by cranking it up to 11+ he wound up looking like a demented old clown. He made his knee jerk base happy. Everyone else either was offended or felt their skin crawl at his rabid hyena act.

52 I'm sure that Joey was told to be aggressive and call Ryan out on lying. The jackass being so classless and senile couldn't control himself

53

"But other than that, WTF was he trying to do here?"

 

 

 

I was just hearing Huckabee talk, and I think he touched on the answer to this.  Basically, he believes that Biden's strategy was to attempt to make Ryan look like he "wasn't ready for Prime Time" - that he was something of an upstart.  The way he did that was to be dismissive and disrespectful.

 

It didn't work.  Even people who say "Biden won" thought he was just being a jerk.  Seriously, it tarnishes the office of the VP to have its occupant behave so badly.

54 I prayed for both debates that the character of the candidates be revealed to the American people. I think in both debates, they have. Obama is a detached, disinterested academic, and Romney is a skilled executive with enormous leadership skills. Biden is a rude, pandering, old school political hack and Ryan is a serious young man with real ideas.

55 Please tell me how a mental, moral and emotional midget like Joe Biden can possibly be condescending to anybody.

56 Good ad.

57 What about your laaaaaughs?

58 Tell me that someone who is unemployed, lost their savings and retirement, and is upside down on their mortgage thought Jackalope Joe was on their side.?  I think those folks are very tired of BoBo and Moochillini partying down like EuroTrash on the public dime.  They have not had JJ shoved in their face laughing and poohpoohing the facts about how poorly the administration has performed.

59 He laughs through his lies.

He lied about Benghazi.

He lied about voting against two wars under President Bush.

His lies need to be published.

60 Because Obama sneered, smiled slyly, hung his head and couldn't give a straight answer to anything they had to change their strategy. Biden would laugh, stare, guffaw and ridicule to show they weren't as dumb as they seemed. Big Bird loved it.

61 Ace talked about Chris Matthews thinking "blue collar" means talking like a punk on a barstool (having never actually talked like that in real life and been knocked off said stool).  Was the Biden performance any different?  Do you think it appealed to anyone not already wedded to voting for Obama?  I imagine it appealed to women in the same way that listening to Debbie Wasserman Schultz appeals to me when she speaks and makes me want to marry her.

62

Obama is a detached, disinterested academic

 

 

For the umpteenth time, Obama is not a goddamned academic!

 

He never published anything, he never was a professor, he never had tenure, he never had a tenure track position.

 

He was just a Communist agitator asshole from the neighborhood who was brought in as a political favor to give some lectures on gaming the Constitution to gain racial preferences (and, in the process, to buff up his shitty resume).

 

He was no more an academic for giving a few lectures than he was an MLB pitcher for throwing out a ball (I'm being charitable here) for the All-Star game.

63

Back on topic, I think Biden's strategy was indeed to get Ryan to jump into the pig sty and wrestle with him. They'd both end up muddy, but that would redound to Biden's advantage, since he has the age to pat Ryan on the head and patronize him ("I knew John Kennedy ... and you're no John Kennedy," that sort of thing).

 

Ryan did a good job of keeping his cool. Raddatz as referee got in some rabbit punches (to switch metaphors) when Biden went into a clinch with Ryan, but she wasn't as bad as I'd thought she 'd be.

64 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.