January 04, 2012
— Ace I'm annoyed. Mark Steyn seems to favor Perry, but won't say so; Rush Limbaugh must seem to like him somewhat, or else he wouldn't urge him to stay in the race, nor would he hope for a "miracle" in South Carolina.
So why not say so?
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Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 04, 2012 10:13 AM (5Hl3g)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Voting In A Month at January 04, 2012 10:15 AM (yAor6)
I'm glad he's staying in & coming to SC. I'm really praying for a miracle.
Posted by: Lady in Black ~ still carrying a torch for Perry at January 04, 2012 10:16 AM (ycuSb)
Posted by: lorien1973 at January 04, 2012 10:16 AM (usXZy)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at January 04, 2012 10:16 AM (X+wG+)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 04, 2012 10:16 AM (h6mPj)
They make a living telling their listeners what they want to hear, not what they need to hear.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 04, 2012 10:17 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Janir at January 04, 2012 10:17 AM (HOjYi)
Posted by: . at January 04, 2012 10:18 AM (gQLr2)
didn't it take him forever to back Mitt in 08?
Yes, and only reluctantly so. He stated he doesn't want to endorse candidates, but he really dislike McCain.
Posted by: fluffy at January 04, 2012 10:18 AM (3SvjA)
I have an announcement to make.
(No, no I am not gay.)
If Rothlisburger wins this Saturday I'm sitting out the election.
Posted by: soothsayer at January 04, 2012 10:19 AM (sqkOB)
Perry on the trail is an embarrassment. Maybe that's why Limbaugh won't endorse. Just last night, Fox was filling a little air time as they were fading out to a commercial. They filled with 15 seconds of live Perry giving his closing arguments to a group of Iowans. Perry says in that short bit says he'd be the kind of "Governor" ... "Sorry I mean President ...."
Embarrasment. Personally, I can't take watching this tough talking dim bulb get the shit kicked out of him by Barry Obama. The strain would be more than I could bear.
Posted by: canoedad at January 04, 2012 10:20 AM (A3zgF)
Yep. Just like every other political blog.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 04, 2012 10:20 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Derpman at January 04, 2012 10:21 AM (p6Sro)
Posted by: Joffen at January 04, 2012 10:21 AM (zLeKL)
My opinion, anyway.
Posted by: © Sponge at January 04, 2012 10:22 AM (UK9cE)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 10:22 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: eman at January 04, 2012 10:22 AM (EWsrI)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 04, 2012 02:19 PM (sqkOB)
But it wasn't RAPE rape.
Posted by: © Sponge at January 04, 2012 10:23 AM (UK9cE)
So why not say so?
I don't get this.
Because Perry campaigns like Obama governs, really bad.
Perry may be bypassing NH mostly but the NH debate is critical to him.
Posted by: Rocks at January 04, 2012 10:23 AM (Q1lie)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 04, 2012 10:23 AM (r4wIV)
If he's already maxed out his donation (or plans to), or if his "time" is calculated to be so valuable that it would max out his donation (this is Rush, so that's within the realm of possibility), any on-air endorsement could, in theory at least, violate campaign finance laws.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 10:24 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Joffen at January 04, 2012 10:24 AM (zLeKL)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 04, 2012 02:19 PM (sqkOB)
I'll pray for you anyway, soothsayer.
Posted by: Tim "the prayer" Tebow at January 04, 2012 10:24 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: canoedad at January 04, 2012 02:20 PM (A3zgF)
Yup. Like Texas' record under his leadership. Kind of like the total opposite of Obama's which is like, waaay better.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at January 04, 2012 10:24 AM (jx2j9)
Posted by: Cricket at January 04, 2012 10:24 AM (DrC22)
Steyn will take his cue from Rush. By far the best guest host. I can't figure Steyn out, he's Canadian, but sounds more British than anything, but looks just like Blake Griffin. Anyway, I wish Steyn would come out now and support Perry, but I recognize that Perry has been the failure. If he rises to the occasion (and I hope he does) it will be the biggest comeback in a long time. Certainly, Rush could help him.
Posted by: SH at January 04, 2012 10:24 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: zane at January 04, 2012 10:24 AM (/l7cS)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 04, 2012 10:24 AM (FKQng)
Come on, Ace. Your Enemies List is going to look fabulous once Obama gets reelected.
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The blog commenters were more united against McCain than we are against Romney this year. But stick around for when Ace revives the "Everything is Awesome!" blog.
Posted by: Anony at January 04, 2012 10:25 AM (Yigvc)
Posted by: Joffen at January 04, 2012 02:22 PM (zLeKL)
And he'll say RAAAAAACIST and then make faces. End of hearing.
Posted by: joncelli at January 04, 2012 10:25 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: auscolpyr at January 04, 2012 10:25 AM (+KmL5)
Posted by: Joffen at January 04, 2012 02:24 PM (zLeKL)
Because the people of South Carolina will be watching that debate.
Posted by: Rocks at January 04, 2012 10:26 AM (Q1lie)
Posted by: Joffen at January 04, 2012 10:26 AM (zLeKL)
But I repeat myself.
Posted by: observer at January 04, 2012 10:26 AM (/p45w)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at January 04, 2012 10:26 AM (IGkEP)
From someone who has listened to rush forever---he doesn't come right out because he doesn't want to HURT his candidate. (Sorry but DUH). If he came out and "endorsed" someone every fucking libtard media outlet in the fucking world would HERALD Rush endorses racist pig facist pedophile wife beater islamophobe XXX.
That isn't even a little hard to figure out.
He likes Perry BTW
Posted by: dagny at January 04, 2012 10:26 AM (TCgts)
----
Uh, what? How is it critical to him? Romney's got a 30 point advantage there. Perry is smart by focusing on SC.
Pretty sure voters outside of just NH will be paying attention to his performance.
Posted by: brak at January 04, 2012 10:27 AM (nIoiW)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 02:22 PM (8y9MW)
It's the way you say it... It gets me... it make me feel like... like... you know that feeling that Chris Mathews describes with such emotion? Yeah. That one.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at January 04, 2012 10:27 AM (jx2j9)
Posted by: Rush Limbaugh at January 04, 2012 10:27 AM (yBtkG)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 04, 2012 02:24 PM (FKQng)
call me crazy but I think there's some jelousy b/w Palin and Bachmann
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Voting In A Month at January 04, 2012 10:27 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: zane at January 04, 2012 02:24 PM (/l7cS)
You'll buy a car from me. It's inevitable.
Posted by: Mitt Romney at January 04, 2012 10:27 AM (TpXEI)
Santorum is a flash in the pan. His "surge" was pumped
I have trouble believing Santorum has ever pumped a surge.
Posted by: dagny at January 04, 2012 10:28 AM (TCgts)
Posted by: ace at January 04, 2012 10:28 AM (nj1bB)
Posted by: tasker at January 04, 2012 10:29 AM (r2PLg)
eew. I think it's time we implemented "horrifying mental image" alerts.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 10:29 AM (8y9MW)
Such as- Bachmann and Cain are unelectable vanity candidates, that electability does in fact matter, that the All Powerful Establishment doesn't secretly control every aspect of the primaries, that governors make better candidates than legislators, etc.
But no- that's not what their listeners want to hear, so the likes of Rush and Levin play along for the sake of ratings. You don't make the big bucks alienating the source of your revenue stream.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 04, 2012 10:29 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: tasker at January 04, 2012 10:30 AM (r2PLg)
wait, Perry ain't skipping out on the NH debate is he?
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Voting In A Month at January 04, 2012 10:30 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: dagny at January 04, 2012 10:30 AM (TCgts)
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 04, 2012 10:31 AM (OCCG6)
Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 04, 2012 10:31 AM (q3zGg)
Posted by: Dave at January 04, 2012 10:31 AM (Xm1aB)
I stopped listening to Levin all together. There's only so much nasally anger I can take.
Posted by: taylork at January 04, 2012 10:31 AM (5wsU9)
Posted by: lorien1973
You don't realize just how apt that analogy is.
Posted by: Roy at January 04, 2012 10:31 AM (VndSC)
The law is so convoluted it's ridiculous, but, yes, that's my understanding: any endorsement of a politician during a political campaign counts as a contribution.
And, no, talking smack about a candidate doesn't count as an anti-endorsement, or whatever. McCain-Feingold is one of the most terribly written pieces of legislation ever.
I could be wrong- but it is my understanding.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 10:32 AM (8y9MW)
Iowa, 28 proportional delegates: 6 each for Romney, Santorum, Paul. 5 each Gingrich and Perry
New Hampshire: 12 proportial delegates. No gain for any candidate in reality.
South Carolina: 25 delegates in a winner-take-all primary. Money better spend in SC than in NH.
Florida: 50 delegates in a winner-take-all primary. The big dog of early voting states. Again, makes NH look as unimportant as it is.
Posted by: zane at January 04, 2012 10:32 AM (/l7cS)
Posted by: sunny black at January 04, 2012 10:32 AM (0dyYY)
Posted by: Jay Bee at January 04, 2012 10:32 AM (Xwgt3)
Exactly where he is now re: Santorum. Tying himself in knots to defend Compassionate Conservatism as real conservatism.
Posted by: Lou at January 04, 2012 10:32 AM (xp1pq)
Posted by: Entropy, and if you don't agree you hate America and want Obama to win at January 04, 2012 10:33 AM (pu3AL)
gotta agree - I read his book and I couldn't even make it past the first half, it was just so full of righteous didactic anger.
Posted by: chemjeff at January 04, 2012 10:33 AM (s7mIC)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 02:32 PM
You're thinking of the Fairness Doctrine, which hasn't been the law for decades.
Posted by: Lou at January 04, 2012 10:34 AM (xp1pq)
Posted by: AmishDude at January 04, 2012 10:34 AM (73tyQ)
Posted by: Mitt Romney at January 04, 2012 10:34 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: dagny at January 04, 2012 02:30 PM (TCgts)
+1
Florida: 50 delegates in a winner-take-all primary. The big dog of early voting states. Again, makes NH look as unimportant as it is.
Posted by: zane at January 04, 2012 02:32 PM (/l7cS)
you really wanna add that pressure on this FL voter?
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Voting In A Month at January 04, 2012 10:34 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at January 04, 2012 10:34 AM (SB0V2)
His lady pushed him out there and he's not too comfortable with it, but less comfortable with telling her no.
Posted by: ontherocks at January 04, 2012 10:35 AM (HBqDo)
It's easy for a guy like Rush to have such a high average when he never has to admit he was wrong.
Posted by: Christine O'Donnell at January 04, 2012 10:35 AM (yBtkG)
Perry would be total, complete and unmitigated Train Wreck. He's bad enough by himself. But in the recent shadow of George Bush? There would be arms and legs scattered all around. And they would be our own.
Posted by: canoedad at January 04, 2012 10:35 AM (A3zgF)
I stopped listening to Levin all together. There's only so much nasally anger I can take.
the dude insults his own listeners when they call in
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Voting In A Month at January 04, 2012 10:35 AM (yAor6)
it was just so full of righteous didactic anger.
You guys don't like Newt or Santorum either then?
Posted by: dagny at January 04, 2012 10:35 AM (TCgts)
No, the Fairness Doctrine says opposing viewpoints have to have equal time. McCain-Feingold didn't say that: just that, during a primary, support from on-air personalities constituted "material support" or some-such.
The guys at my local talker radio station hated it, because there was a special carve-out for print media, so that Newspapers could still make their endorsements.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 10:36 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Dave at January 04, 2012 10:36 AM (Xm1aB)
I have trouble believing Santorum has ever pumped a surge.
Well, he's got 8 kids...right?
BRB...off to get the brain bleach.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 04, 2012 10:36 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: ontherocks at January 04, 2012 02:35 PM (HBqDo)
I agree, I thinik in a way it was also happening to Christie but he admitted to himself he wasn't ready
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Voting In A Month at January 04, 2012 10:36 AM (yAor6)
Santorum - big-government theocon
Mittens - slightly conservative technocrat, flip flops on everything except the one thing that would make conservatives happy if he did
Perry - folksy, ill-prepared, good record but not much else
Gingrich - sleazy, has more ideas than sense
Huntsman - arrogant douchie
Luap Nor - crazy racist
sigh
so tell me again why I shouldn't vote for Gary Johnson?
Posted by: chemjeff at January 04, 2012 10:36 AM (s7mIC)
Steyn is a mystery somewhat, but I think they all suffer from the same problem. They don't think Perry will win, even if they do get behind him; or they are afraid of Romney's ability to crush the reputation of his opponents.
If they back a candidate, and he loses, or develops an image problem, there is a big loss of cred points and influence points, which means lower ratings/readership which means $$$. I bet Rush still feels the sting of having supported Romney in '08 and him having lost handily. And I'm sure if Rush comes out in support of Perry, every sound bite of Rush supporting Romney in '08 will come out of the closet and get MSM air time.
Steyn, like I said, maybe hesitant because he doesn't think Perry can win.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 04, 2012 10:36 AM (0q2P7)
#46, I would not buy a used car from Romney, or any of his supporters. Anyone who supports an out-and-out liar is just as small and weasely as the guy they are supporting.
One other point; if this nation is going to complete the process of totally going to hell in a hand basket, I would rather see it happen under a Democrat, not a nor'eastern Democrat Lite like Romney.
Posted by: zane at January 04, 2012 10:36 AM (/l7cS)
Maybe Rush wants Perry to stay in for the same reason I do – to continue splitting the vote and delegates so that it goes all the way to the convention.
Perry seems to be a combination of a televangelist and the Texas governor in “Best Little Whorehouse in Texas”. The only difference is he doesn’t speak as well.
No matter. As long as he chalks up enough delegates to keep Mitt from walking away with the nomination, IÂ’m happy.
Posted by: jwest at January 04, 2012 10:36 AM (8moZm)
Posted by: Mitt Romney at January 04, 2012 10:36 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: eman at January 04, 2012 10:37 AM (EWsrI)
sigh
so tell me again why I shouldn't vote for Gary Johnson?
Gary Johnson -stoned, effeminate loser.
Anything else you need?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 04, 2012 10:38 AM (sbV1u)
Women are NOT going to vote for Rick Santorum.
Why not? It's been my experience that most women share Santorum's anti-sodomy agenda.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 04, 2012 10:38 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Mitt Romney at January 04, 2012 10:38 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: chemjeff at January 04, 2012 02:36 PM (s7mIC)
he's stoned all the time.
Posted by: Rocks at January 04, 2012 10:38 AM (Q1lie)
call me crazy but I think there's some jelousy b/w Palin and Bachmann
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Voting In A Month at January 04, 2012 02:27 PM (yAor6)
Yes, go on.,,,,
Posted by: Bachman Palin Pron Movie Director at January 04, 2012 10:38 AM (OCCG6)
I dunno. Obama's verbal blunders are tenfold, and I'm told he's brilliant. How will I ever reconcile that? /s
Posted by: Lady in Black ~ still carrying a torch for Perry at January 04, 2012 10:39 AM (ycuSb)
Posted by: chemjeff at January 04, 2012 02:36 PM (s7mIC)
*sighs* +1
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Voting In A Month at January 04, 2012 10:39 AM (yAor6)
All the pundits and pols, no matter how much we like them or hate them, want to be the one to back the winner so they'll hedge, hem and haw, then they'll say I told you so. At least Nikki Haley has the courage of her convictions to back someone relatively (early) regardless wether Mittens is the presumed winner or not.
Posted by: dananjcon at January 04, 2012 10:40 AM (8ieXv)
canoedad, why don't you share with us the success of whatever hell hole state you call home?
Or do you really think that inept governors run successful states? If so, that probably makes you a Mitt supporter.
I can see the sign in your yard now: Vote For Mitt; he's put a queer on the SCOTUS.
Posted by: zane at January 04, 2012 10:40 AM (/l7cS)
it was just so full of righteous didactic anger.
You guys don't like Newt or Santorum either then?
I don't mind the occasional angry outburst. But that's all Levin is. Plus, as someone mentioned, he treats his audience with total contempt.
Posted by: taylork at January 04, 2012 10:40 AM (5wsU9)
Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at January 04, 2012 10:40 AM (vahvH)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 04, 2012 02:24 PM (FKQng)
Yeah, well, Palin also suggested we play nice with Ron Paul supporters. Screw Ron Paul supporters and their Stormfront pals and the piece-of-shit 1973 Chevrolet Nova they drove in on. Her credibility took a dive with me, and I considered myself a big Palin supporter at one time.
And the reason why Steyn and Limbaugh won't publicly back Perry is because they don't want to look foolish if Perry screws up. A modern-day political pundit is like an Old Testament prophet: they get killed if they're wrong. Nowadays, of course, it's the pundit's credibility that takes a hit, causing careers to suffer: books don't sell, speaking engagement dry up, that sort of thing. It's not like the good old days where the people would drag them out and stone false prophets to death.
Posted by: troyriser at January 04, 2012 10:40 AM (vtiE6)
Yes, go on.,,,,
Posted by: Bachman Palin Pron Movie Director at January 04, 2012 02:38 PM (OCCG6)
Oh, I'm looking forward to Girls Gone Wild 27: Bachman-Palin Overdrive.
What's the release date again?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 04, 2012 10:40 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Dave at January 04, 2012 10:40 AM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at January 04, 2012 02:40 PM (vahvH)
Ive said this a hundred times, Perry MUST win SC to start his comeback.
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Voting In A Month at January 04, 2012 10:41 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 10:41 AM (8y9MW)
This is me, crossing my fingers but not holding my breath.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 10:42 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 04, 2012 02:38 PM (SY2Kh)
Christ, let's hope not!
Posted by: joncelli at January 04, 2012 10:42 AM (RD7QR)
Rush Limbaugh must seem to like him somewhat, or else he wouldn't urge him to stay in the race, nor would he hope for a "miracle" in South Carolina.
So why not say so?
I don't get this.
Rush did say "this," that is, that he likes Perry somewhat.
He also said he likes Santorum somewhat.
He also said he likes Newt somewhat -- especially now that Newt is angry and going to go for Romney's throat.
And if Romney ends up as the nominee, Rush will find something to like about him, at least in comparison to Obama.
What's so hard to get about that?
Posted by: stuiec at January 04, 2012 10:42 AM (Di3Im)
Posted by: Ricko Perry at January 04, 2012 10:42 AM (hM0FR)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 02:41 PM (8y9MW)
actually I think it would be Willard not Mitt when sworn in
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Voting In A Month at January 04, 2012 10:42 AM (yAor6)
Steyn is Canadian but was educated in London. And now is a legal US resident of New Hampshire.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 04, 2012 10:43 AM (tqwMN)
This is worse than "Mitt" or "Newt?"
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 02:41 PM (8y9MW)
It's not worse than "Mitt" True.
But I would enjoy President Newt and the 4 years of Monty Python references that would follow.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 04, 2012 10:43 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: garrett at January 04, 2012 10:43 AM (q/q9Y)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 10:43 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: ace at January 04, 2012 10:43 AM (nj1bB)
Posted by: taylork at January 04, 2012 10:44 AM (5wsU9)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 02:43 PM (8y9MW)
im adding to your point, heh
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Voting In A Month at January 04, 2012 10:44 AM (yAor6)
Okay, fair.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 10:44 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: ace at January 04, 2012 10:44 AM (nj1bB)
Yes, and?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 02:43 PM (8y9MW)
Look, I'm just not comfortable with this subject, okay?
Posted by: Millard Fillmore at January 04, 2012 10:44 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Dave at January 04, 2012 10:44 AM (Xm1aB)
I think Newt just wants to fuck romney over now. I think he will help Perry/santorum
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 04, 2012 10:45 AM (FKQng)
Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2012 10:45 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: Rick Perry at January 04, 2012 10:45 AM (usXZy)
No not all. But they do have the hook on the most qualified candidates who have solid records and have high electability. And all they have to say is xxx is our guy this time, and all the other folks trying to build favor stay out and wait "their turn". Occasionally you get a good pol that will buck them, but not often.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 04, 2012 10:45 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Joffen at January 04, 2012 10:45 AM (zLeKL)
Where have you been, ace? We've been told that results are less important than being well-spoken since the first debate, at least.
(for the record- On your side, on this one)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 10:45 AM (8y9MW)
The party is simply admitting to reality, which is that media does matter when Eric Alterman isn't involved.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 04, 2012 10:46 AM (tqwMN)
Posted by: Coldstream at January 04, 2012 02:22 PM (qrCKL)
I've been listening to Rush since 1990. He's never endorsed a candidate during the primaries. He hints heavily on who he likes, but his main thrust is trying to keep all the candidates' public discourse toward conservatism.
He's said many times during this primary season that any one of the candidates we have now would be exponentially better than the SCOAMF.
Posted by: Soona at January 04, 2012 10:46 AM (OOqdh)
Being able to concisely state your successes in such a way that doesn't result in a late-night skewering helps too.
Posted by: taylork at January 04, 2012 10:47 AM (5wsU9)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at work at January 04, 2012 10:47 AM (mfbqu)
Shooting for a VP slot? He would make one hell of a President of the Senate.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 04, 2012 10:47 AM (0q2P7)
So why not say so?
I don't get this.
Posted by: Ace at 02:11 PM
Republicans aren't exactly known for their courage these days Ace. The fence-sitting on endorsements has bugged the shit out of me for a while.
Posted by: Ms Choksondik, hoping for a Rick Perry miracle at January 04, 2012 10:47 AM (fYOZx)
It's been my experience that most women share Santorum's anti-sodomy agenda.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 04, 2012 02:38 PM (SY2Kh)
If you would slow down and use more lube you wouldnÂ’t have that experience.
Posted by: jwest at January 04, 2012 10:47 AM (8moZm)
Being able to concisely state your successes in such a way that doesn't result in a late-night skewering helps too.
^^^^This.
A smile and the sweet light of Jesus shining in his eyes isn't going to win over people who think Perry is an idiot based on his debate performances.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 04, 2012 10:48 AM (sbV1u)
Oh.
Posted by: ace at January 04, 2012 02:43 PM (nj1bB)
The mantra "like we did in Texas" is already old. He has to be able to translate that into a campaign platform that works.
Posted by: lowandslow at January 04, 2012 10:48 AM (GZitp)
Don't.
If you must get them a car (instead of them buying it) by the biggest hunk of metal you can find. They WILL have an accident of some degree in the first 18 months of driving themselves. With luck, it'll be a minor fender-bender, and the car they're driving won't matter. If they're not lucky, though, they'll need all that metal around them.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 10:49 AM (8y9MW)
If you would slow down and use more lube you wouldnÂ’t have that experience.
Posted by: jwest at January 04, 2012 02:47 PM (8moZm)
Santorum/More Lube 2012
Sorta has a ring to it I guess.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 04, 2012 10:49 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Anthony Kennedy at January 04, 2012 10:49 AM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: Ian S. at January 04, 2012 10:49 AM (tqwMN)
Strength of Popularity + Strength of Strategy determine the outcome of an election.
A candidate needs two things to win: Votes and a Plan to attract more votes.
Rick Perry has neither...at the moment.
Posted by: fickle soothsayer at January 04, 2012 10:49 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: ace at January 04, 2012 02:44 PM (nj1bB)
Yeah, wierd shit, that.
But hey! Mitt is electable because even tho he is a quasi-Commie that plays to the middle, he has some friggin' sweet hair!
Posted by: ErikW at January 04, 2012 10:50 AM (n4XPJ)
Posted by: dagny at January 04, 2012 10:50 AM (TCgts)
Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2012 10:50 AM (WkuV6)
122
"Sorry I thought actual results counted as a fairly major factor."
Yes, but when you both look and sound like you're dipped in it, it's easy to dismiss any connection between the Texas' economy and the Governor.
Now if I want a publicity stunt/coyote shot, that's an entirely different matter. But so far, I'm happy to shoot 'em myself.
Posted by: canoedad at January 04, 2012 10:50 AM (A3zgF)
Posted by: Anthony Kennedy at January 04, 2012 10:50 AM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at January 04, 2012 10:50 AM (CLIf7)
Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2012 10:51 AM (WkuV6)
Hey, that's not fair. We've been told repeatedly by the Kittens that it's not that Mitt is liberal, he was just saddled with an incredibly liberal legislature. In Massachusetts. Where he was "moderate/progressive" enough to win state-wide office.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 10:52 AM (8y9MW)
That's the function I've had in the family and at work, hell even as PTO president, I put the brakes on stupid shit. They didn't know anyone who would do that?
Posted by: dagny at January 04, 2012 02:50 PM (TCgts)
First, you have to know what stupid shit is so you can hire people to stop you from doing stupid shit.
Then you have to hire people who know what stupid shit is.
Then you have to allow them to stop you from doing stupid shit.
Does that sound like ANY politician you know?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 04, 2012 10:53 AM (sbV1u)
I have stated this before, I do not want anyone to make any comments if they do not have the balls to make an endorsement. I want Palin, Limbaugh, Beck, etc to just SHUT UP until they make a stand.
I have given my breakdown from the beginning. My choice never got in, my second just dropped and my third placed second in Iowa. I am now beginning to lean toward Perry the more I have been hearing about Santorum. Oh well, I guess the folks I mentioned might actually not care who wins, because they are actually invested in themselves not the country. Whodathought?!
Posted by: David Kramer at January 04, 2012 10:53 AM (OkW7e)
Don't.
If you must get them a car (instead of them buying it) by the biggest hunk of metal you can find. They WILL have an accident of some degree in the first 18 months of driving themselves. With luck, it'll be a minor fender-bender, and the car they're driving won't matter. If they're not lucky, though, they'll need all that metal around them.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 02:49 PM (8y9MW)
Agreed. Find a used Volvo Station Wagon....
Posted by: The Robot Devil at January 04, 2012 10:53 AM (84oau)
@140
I don't think that "like we did in Texas" mantra is old at all. Houston is getting a buttload of out of state plates because we have JOBS. And not "do ya want fries with that" jobs either. Flat out, you want to work and support your family, put your kids in decent schools and get some of the best medical care in the world (disclaimer - I am a doctor) - Like we DO in Texas now that's pretty damn sweet.
Posted by: Katy Beth at January 04, 2012 10:53 AM (YYkse)
It's as simple as "the most conservative candidate who can win".
The fantasy candidate who is 100% conservative and has a strong chance of beating Obama doesn't exist, at least this election cycle.
Such a candidate is extremely difficult to come by, as governing in the real world usually requires a compromise or two. Yet, some in the Purity Brigade are quick to write off any otherwise conservative candidate as a RINO for the slightest transgression, past or present.
Sure, you can be a bomb throwing House Rep (for example) and be 100% conservative, but that's because you're one voice out of 435. However, there's a reason nobody's been elected President out of the House for some 120 years.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 04, 2012 10:53 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at work at January 04, 2012 02:51 PM (mfbqu)
Just my experience with two teen drivers, I agree with the others. Get them a pick up a few years old with under 40K miles. Because the term you'll be coming to know a lot is; At Fault Accident.
Posted by: Sgt. Fury at January 04, 2012 10:53 AM (BupRb)
Well, Gary Johnson did climb Mount Everest. I don't think that qualifies him as "effeminate".
Posted by: chemjeff at January 04, 2012 10:53 AM (s7mIC)
Posted by: willow at January 04, 2012 10:53 AM (h+qn8)
Posted by: dagny at January 04, 2012 10:54 AM (TCgts)
Posted by: Bob Saget at January 04, 2012 10:54 AM (SDkq3)
Posted by: Genesis P. Orrige at January 04, 2012 10:54 AM (Wa2Hq)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 04, 2012 10:54 AM (21lBC)
If you must get them a car (instead of them buying it) by the biggest hunk of metal you can find. They WILL have an accident of some degree in the first 18 months of driving themselves. With luck, it'll be a minor fender-bender, and the car they're driving won't matter. If they're not lucky, though, they'll need all that metal around them.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 02:49 PM (8y9MW)
Good advice. That way, when they have that inevitable text-induced accident, they can take out the smug fuck driving the prius or Smart accordian Car.
Posted by: Ms Choksondik, hoping for a Rick Perry miracle at January 04, 2012 10:54 AM (fYOZx)
Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2012 10:55 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: That Chicken at January 04, 2012 10:55 AM (QQn2V)
Posted by: dagny at January 04, 2012 10:55 AM (TCgts)
Or as we call'em, trolls(but to the 10x)
Posted by: Fritz at January 04, 2012 10:55 AM (3raPN)
I think Newt just wants to fuck romney over now. I think he will help Perry/santorum
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 04, 2012 02:45 PM (FKQng)
You're probably right. I don't think Newt did himself any favors by not being man enough to conratulate him. It makes him look like a petulant child. Newt is the kind of prick who will stay in until the lights are off and the janitor is cleaning up the hall. He's not gracious or classy enough to do so. To think, I briefly gave this guy some thought. Now I think,,,go away Newt.
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 04, 2012 10:55 AM (OCCG6)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 02:49 PM (8y9MW)
I agree with Allen, kids are accident prone. but they are cute .
Posted by: willow at January 04, 2012 10:55 AM (h+qn8)
Posted by: Soona at January 04, 2012 10:56 AM (OOqdh)
Note: Rush supports the conservative du jour. If he even gives Mitt Romney a kind word I will be surprised. He is as bad as a politician: it is just a job to them and Rush wants his base to be happy, and his base does not like Romney.
My vote in the Florida Primary later this month will be based on who I think will win the national vs Obama. It is now between Perry (who I like the best but worries me) and Romney (who I liked in 2008; and, no matter what monkey feces is thrown, I think he will be the best vs Obama in the national). I will look again at Santorum, but I have concerns that I can't verbalize about him.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at January 04, 2012 10:56 AM (baL2B)
Oh.
Posted by: ace at January 04, 2012 02:43 PM (nj1bB)
Think about this:
One one hand, you have Perry's resume and record. On the other hand, you have Perry, the man who (if elected) would occupy the Oval Office.
Which is the packaging and which is the product?
Perry entered the race with only his record and resume on display, and he assumed the lead position in the pack from Michelle Bachmann.
Then he spoke in the debates, and fell to the back of the pack.
Which were the Iowa voters judging: the packaging or the product?
Posted by: stuiec at January 04, 2012 10:56 AM (Di3Im)
Posted by: Wall_E at January 04, 2012 10:56 AM (48wze)
It happened to both of my brothers and me. We were all lucky that ours were minor fender-benders. Plenty of other people my age weren't that lucky. Hospital stays are expensive.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 10:57 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Heartless Nora at January 04, 2012 10:57 AM (VxqUc)
Posted by: chemjeff at January 04, 2012 02:53 PM (s7mIC)
I'm pretty sure women have climbed Mount Everest. You don't get much more effieminate than that.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 04, 2012 10:57 AM (TpXEI)
The skid marks can be hideous, especially if you pump them.
Posted by: ontherocks at January 04, 2012 10:57 AM (HBqDo)
Well, Gary Johnson did climb Mount Everest. I don't think that qualifies him as "effeminate".
Posted by: chemjeff at January 04, 2012 02:53 PM (s7mIC)
You're confusing an act with his demeanor. I know more than a few gay guys in the Ranger Regiment. It doesn't mean they're not gay because they do something macho.
Go watch his debate performances again.
Johnson comes across like that gay guy on "The Simpsons"
Oh nooooo!
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 04, 2012 10:57 AM (sbV1u)
#134, being able to be a glib speaker is such a desirable trait, right? So how do you explain the absolute fail of the glib speaker that now occupies the Oval Office.
If you are too damn stupid to check a candidates record, you are probably too damn stupid to vote.
BTW, the reporters of the day said that Lincoln lost to Douglas. How did that work out?
Posted by: zane at January 04, 2012 10:57 AM (/l7cS)
Posted by: ace at January 04, 2012 02:44 PM (nj1bB)
It does, but IMO it's never been the case that Republicans, or conservatives, are steely-eyed just-the-facts-ma'am super-rational Vulcan automatons. Just look at the Cult of Reagan for heaven's sake. Perry is having a hard time coming off as "presidential" in how he presents himself in the debates. I thought I was being fair when I described him as "folksy, ill-prepared, good record but not much else".
Posted by: chemjeff at January 04, 2012 10:58 AM (s7mIC)
Posted by: John at January 04, 2012 10:58 AM (BBlzg)
Posted by: dagny at January 04, 2012 10:58 AM (TCgts)
Newt is mostly upset over Florida.
His huge lead is quickly evaporating. Newt is blaming Romney, of course. But he should be blaming himself.
Posted by: fickle soothsayer at January 04, 2012 10:58 AM (sqkOB)
Sporty nimble performance car with virtually no crash survivability and teenagers: What could possibly go wrong?
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 04, 2012 10:58 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: willow at January 04, 2012 10:58 AM (h+qn8)
Posted by: willow at January 04, 2012 10:59 AM (h+qn8)
Newt is the kind of prick who will stay in until the lights are off and the janitor is cleaning up the hall.
And the proof of that is in the C-SPAN archives where, for $39.95 and 96 spare hours of your life, you can watch him making speeches to an empty House of Representatives at 2 a.m. sometime in the mid 1990s
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 04, 2012 10:59 AM (sbV1u)
Is it possible Perry woke up this morning in bed with Mitt? I don't know, last night it sure appeared he was throwing in the towel, today he's on to S.Carolina.
I should stop being so cynical, because at this point I don't think I trust any of them to say what they mean. If Perry stays in, right now his most important task might be to be Mitt's other not-Romney so as to thwart any and all threats, real or imagined from Santorum and/or Newt.
I'd like to think otherwise, but I just can't help but think a call got made between Perry saying he was going back to Texas and say he's on to S.C.
Posted by: Burt TC at January 04, 2012 10:59 AM (TOk1P)
You're probably right. I don't think Newt did himself any favors by not being man enough to conratulate him. It makes him look like a petulant child. Newt is the kind of prick who will stay in until the lights are off and the janitor is cleaning up the hall. He's not gracious or classy enough to do so. To think, I briefly gave this guy some thought. Now I think,,,go away Newt.
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 04, 2012 02:55 PM (OCCG6)
Newt's a fighter. Fighters don't congratulate until the fight is over one way or the other. I've never seen a boxer walk over to the other corner and congratulate the other guy after the first round.
Posted by: Soona at January 04, 2012 11:00 AM (OOqdh)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at January 04, 2012 11:00 AM (CLIf7)
Nonsense! Last year I declared the Buckley Rule EL FINITO (a little Spanish lingo there, for those of you in Rio Linda that means "Buckley can suck it") and instituted the LIMBAUGH RULE, which is that we all must vote for the most conservative candidate, PERIOD. It doesn't matter if that candidate is some crack-addicted hobo living in a trash can behind the Heritage Foundation building; if he says the right things about Social Security HE'S OUR GUY. And speaking of SECURITY, here's how CARBONITE™ can protect your SECRETS in the event of a COMPUTER MELTDOWN....
Posted by: Rush Limbaugh at January 04, 2012 11:00 AM (yBtkG)
Posted by: Miss80s at January 04, 2012 11:00 AM (d6QMz)
My plan is that my kids will pay for all, or most, of their own cars. If that doesn't work- they're paying the premium difference in my insurance rates, and paying their own deductibles when they have a wreck.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 11:00 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: eman at January 04, 2012 11:00 AM (EWsrI)
Posted by: mugiwara at January 04, 2012 11:01 AM (LtjAz)
Posted by: Joffen at January 04, 2012 11:01 AM (zLeKL)
Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2012 11:01 AM (WkuV6)
What am I missing?
Posted by: Drumwaster at January 04, 2012 11:02 AM (ACJu8)
But we shouldn't be talking about impeachment...
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 11:02 AM (8y9MW)
#178, stuiec, well we do know that at least 25,000 Iowan caucus goers supported a candidate that is certifiable. So I guess we can finally dispense with the "informed voter" meme that has been passed around by Iowa voters once and for all.
Wonder how many of those 25,000 ever heard of Lew Rockwell, the Birchers and Murray Rothbard? Informed voter, my ass!
Posted by: zane at January 04, 2012 11:02 AM (/l7cS)
Posted by: Joffen at January 04, 2012 02:59 PM (zLeKL)
Yeah, the Cult of Reagan, where Reagan's talents, as formidable as they were, are presented to be even larger than they were, while his faults and/or conservative apostasy are excused away and buried.
I liked the guy, I really did, I wish we had him now. But he was not a saint.
Posted by: chemjeff at January 04, 2012 11:02 AM (s7mIC)
Although Rush is commendable in defending all the candidates, Santorum's ascendancy is going to split the party *and* fire up the barely-paying-attention moderates. Even if he doesn't get the nomination, his name in the news as a Republican victor could energize enough independents to show up and hold their nose for Barry.
Blech! Double blech!!
Posted by: Scott555 at January 04, 2012 11:02 AM (Y+jP3)
looks like I won't have to but I'd even vote for the lunatic on foreign policy guy.
I won't vote for Ron Paul. If we get to the point where our choice is between him and Obama, we're already over the Abyss.
Posted by: nickless at January 04, 2012 11:03 AM (MMC8r)
I don't think that "like we did in Texas" mantra
is old at all.
Posted by: Katy Beth at January 04, 2012 02:53 PM (YYkse)
I'm talking about relating to other voters not in Texas. Watch him in the next debate or interview. On the majority of questions it's the same answer "like we did in Texas" and that's usually about it. What he needs to be able to do is answer the question by laying out a plan or agenda. Then if he wants, he can add "like we did in Texas".
Posted by: lowandslow at January 04, 2012 11:03 AM (GZitp)
Posted by: Miss80s at January 04, 2012 03:00 PM (d6QMz)
Wow, he's decided to go all in on the defiance. What next, declare himself President for Life?
Posted by: Millard Fillmore at January 04, 2012 11:04 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 03:00 PM (8y9MW)
that's how we do it.
Posted by: willow at January 04, 2012 11:04 AM (h+qn8)
Posted by: zane at January 04, 2012 11:04 AM (/l7cS)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at January 04, 2012 11:04 AM (baL2B)
#134, being able to be a glib speaker is such a desirable trait, right? So how do you explain the absolute fail of the glib speaker that now occupies the Oval Office.
If you are too damn stupid to check a candidates record, you are probably too damn stupid to vote.
But they still DO vote and there are a lot of them.
Sorry, but the reality is that being a good speaker and debater is now part of the job requirement.
Posted by: taylork at January 04, 2012 11:04 AM (5wsU9)
Posted by: Ian S. at January 04, 2012 11:04 AM (tqwMN)
And the proof of that is in the C-SPAN archives where, for $39.95 and 96 spare hours of your life, you can watch him making speeches to an empty House of Representatives at 2 a.m. sometime in the mid 1990s
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 04, 2012 02:59 PM (sbV1u)
I know giving a speech at midnight sounds silly, but people were actually watching his speeches on c-span. They were effective. After all, they won the House back in 1994 after decades of dem rule.
Posted by: Soona at January 04, 2012 11:04 AM (OOqdh)
Posted by: Joffen at January 04, 2012 11:04 AM (zLeKL)
Someone on the earlier thread said that position would be paid out of the Fed's budget, and that Congress really didn't have a say. Anyone know the veracity of that statement?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 11:04 AM (8y9MW)
)Posted by: Katy Beth at January 04, 2012 11:04 AM (YYkse)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 04, 2012 02:58 PM (0q2P7)
The car I had in high school was a '79 Olds Cutlass Brougham that was designed, I think, to be a deer killer.
It had a 305 and was solid steel. I'd put it up against a freight train.
Posted by: ErikW at January 04, 2012 11:05 AM (n4XPJ)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at January 04, 2012 02:56 PM (baL2B)
You do not recall. He most certainly endorsed McCain over Obama, and he made a very enthusiastic endorsement of McCain for picking Palin.
Posted by: stuiec at January 04, 2012 11:06 AM (Di3Im)
The resume is nice but it looks too much like a caretaker Governor. What did he really change or fix to improve Texas? He didn't make things (obviously) worse so that puts him above most politicians but it's not enough.
I don't like Romney but he says he'll work to repeal Obamacare and I expect he'd follow the lead of the House Republicans. It's an improvement over McCain and I think most of us are really just waiting for Ryan and Rubio anyway.
Posted by: justaguy at January 04, 2012 11:06 AM (Ffqmi)
Iowandslow, so what did we do so wrong in Texas? How's the job market in your neck of the woods. Give us your state and I'll give you the numbers.
Funny how people complain about "how we did it in Texas" but the assholes just keep moving here.
Posted by: zane at January 04, 2012 11:06 AM (/l7cS)
Posted by: justaguy at January 04, 2012 03:06 PM (Ffqmi)
I had thought He said He'd repeal the Bad Parts and work with other parts?
Posted by: willow at January 04, 2012 11:07 AM (h+qn8)
Would those be the same House Republicans who are currently not screaming for President "The Senate is in Recess because I say so" Obama's impeachment? Or different ones?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 11:07 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Miss80s at January 04, 2012 03:00 PM (d6QMz)
He learned my lessons well...
Posted by: Hugo Chavez at January 04, 2012 11:07 AM (84oau)
We might be at the point where it becomes impossible for the Congress to make the President do anything he doesn't want to do. If that's the case, and Congress won't go for impeachment, then the only solution is a shutdown.
Posted by: joncelli, too stressed by half at January 04, 2012 11:07 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Waterhouse at January 04, 2012 11:07 AM (FUYSU)
Posted by: FPW, who was a very stupid kid at January 04, 2012 11:07 AM (BDNF5)
Posted by: zane at January 04, 2012 02:24 PM (/l7cS)
THREAD WINNER!
I am sooo tired of our side characterizing our chocies as bad and worse. We have a field and we need to pick from it and then back the guy all the way to November. How ya gonna do that after trashing them for a year first?
Posted by: giftogab at January 04, 2012 11:08 AM (SPVfc)
I know giving a speech at midnight sounds silly, but people were actually watching his speeches on c-span. They were effective. After all, they won the House back in 1994 after decades of dem rule.
I know, but the point was that it speaks to a certain personality quirk of Newt's. (DISCLAIMER: Newt is my guy...although less so today with his peevishness)
Newt believes in the grand gesture. Sometimes he lacks the follow through. He's not a "shades of gray" kinda guy. He's "black and white." The problem is, he defines "black and white" his way, and only when it suits him.
And really...politics is lived in that gray. It's how things get done, and no amount of whining by the Purity Brigade will ever change that.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 04, 2012 11:08 AM (sbV1u)
No. The Senate has been holding pro-forma sessions. Last one was yesterday.
Posted by: Miss80s at January 04, 2012 11:08 AM (d6QMz)
I had thought He said He'd repeal the Bad Parts and work with other parts?
Posted by: willow at January 04, 2012 03:07 PM (h+qn
Yep, he did. Unless he flip flopped again.
Posted by: ErikW at January 04, 2012 11:08 AM (n4XPJ)
Is this really true? Good grief.
Posted by: toby928© at January 04, 2012 11:08 AM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Joffen at January 04, 2012 11:09 AM (zLeKL)
Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2012 11:09 AM (WkuV6)
You're right. The bully pulpit means NOTHING. Convincing otherwise inattentive voters of your merits mean NOTHING. Concisely illustrating your plan about get America back on track to a large group of people who pay more attention to the Kardashians than politics, but vote none the less, means NOTHING.
I didn't say being a good speaker was the only requirement for success, but you're fooling yourself if you think it isn't an essential part.
Posted by: taylork at January 04, 2012 11:09 AM (5wsU9)
Posted by: Joffen at January 04, 2012 03:01 PM (zLeKL)
Politics is bloodsport. You need get a clue. It's nasty and unforgiving. But you have your opinion. My opinion is for Newt to fight like a fucking honey badger. Plenty of time for apologies and/or congratulations later.
Posted by: Soona at January 04, 2012 11:10 AM (OOqdh)
Newt's a fighter. Fighters don't congratulate until the fight is over one way or the other. I've never seen a boxer walk over to the other corner and congratulate the other guy after the first round.
Posted by: Soona at January 04, 2012 03:00 PM (OOqdh)
Newt's a fighter? That's why he resigned his last post?
It's not a boxing match, it's a political contest. It makes you look like a dick if you won't at least give the other guy a congrats. Even if you don't mean it deep inside, it just makes you look like , well. A whiny pouting prick.
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 04, 2012 11:10 AM (OCCG6)
yeah they want us to hurry and get in line. heck i'm unexcited at this point and will get in line when i feel like it.
Posted by: willow at January 04, 2012 11:10 AM (h+qn8)
This may be my new mantra, other than ABO 2012, Nora:
181 I'll vote in November for:
The guy in sweater vests who loss by 8 at Hawkeye Cauci
The gov of Texas who cant seem to get his shit together
The guy with the wife with the blonde helmet head
The guy who saved the SLC Olympics
I'll even vote for the other Mormon
looks like I won't have to but I'd even vote for the lunatic on foreign policy guy.
MY GOAL IS TO DEFEAT OBAMA, THE SCOAMF.
I don't care if Rush does or does not endorse. Meh.
Posted by: Heartless Nora at January 04, 2012 02:57 PM (VxqUc)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at January 04, 2012 11:11 AM (baL2B)
Ace and his readers were heavy into Fred Thompson (Teh Fred!) about this time last election.
He was their Perry. And he was about as successful as Perry's going to be.
Posted by: seattle slough at January 04, 2012 11:11 AM (JRGA6)
Posted by: Joffen at January 04, 2012 11:11 AM (zLeKL)
heck i'm unexcited at this point and will get in line when i feel like it.
What would it take to get you excited?
Chocolate is not an option. Next?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 04, 2012 11:12 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: chemjeff at January 04, 2012 02:53 PM (s7mIC)
What, women don't climb Everest?
Posted by: stuiec at January 04, 2012 11:12 AM (Di3Im)
Speaking for myself? An honest and humble apology for RomneyCare would be a good start.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 11:13 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Joffen at January 04, 2012 11:14 AM (zLeKL)
Speaking for myself? An honest and humble apology for RomneyCare would be a good start.
Oh, you and me both brother. You and me both.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 04, 2012 11:14 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 04, 2012 11:14 AM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Katy Beth at January 04, 2012 11:15 AM (YYkse)
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So you're here to troll?
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 04, 2012 11:15 AM (FKQng)
That sounds like an old clip from Iowa a few months ago when Mitt was being heckled by an Lefty fag infiltrator.
Posted by: soothsayer at January 04, 2012 11:15 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 04, 2012 11:16 AM (i6RpT)
#178, stuiec, well we do know that at least 25,000 Iowan caucus goers supported a candidate that is certifiable. So I guess we can finally dispense with the "informed voter" meme that has been passed around by Iowa voters once and for all.
Wonder how many of those 25,000 ever heard of Lew Rockwell, the Birchers and Murray Rothbard? Informed voter, my ass!
Posted by: zane at January 04, 2012 03:02 PM (/l7cS)
You are making the flawed assumption that those 25,000 Iowa voters aren't big fans of Lew Rockwell, the Birchers and Murray Rothbard. I bet quite a lot of them are indeed big fans.
Posted by: stuiec at January 04, 2012 11:16 AM (Di3Im)
Ace and his readers were heavy into Fred Thompson (Teh Fred!) about this time last election.
He was their Perry. And he was about as successful as Perry's going to be.
uh-huh....And you know what. Last election this time Romney supporters were heavy into Romney; He was their Mitt Romney, and he was about as successful as Mitt Romney is going to be.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 04, 2012 11:17 AM (0q2P7)
Anyway, Rush's point, though he admitted he liked Perry personally, was that the confusion within the Republican party was sort of making it impossible for the dems to start to address the campaign. If it's not clear who is going to ultimately get the nomination then you can't begin focusing in on the one person. Heck he said he was saddened that Michelle Bachman dropped out and said her exit speech was her best speech and didn't mean it as a knock, but as an earnest compliment. I don't see Rush endorsing Perry or anyone else for that matter. if you recall, he didn't endorse McCain or anyone else in the last election.
Levin's a different story. He said who he liked and Santorum was one of them.
Posted by: dip theory ah at January 04, 2012 11:17 AM (oZfic)
I would also need a credible plan for how he would facilitate that, as well as a detailed explanation of what his "Replace" in "Repeal & Replace" would entail that showed he was committed to using conservative, free market approaches instead of nanny state ones.
Posted by: Y-not at January 04, 2012 11:17 AM (5H6zj)
Yes! The base is willing to forgive mistakes if you admit they were mistakes (Newt and the couch ad with Granny Rictus). I think if Mitt denounced RomneyCare he'd win every remaining primary by about 80%.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 04, 2012 11:17 AM (tqwMN)
Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2012 11:17 AM (WkuV6)
Politics is bloodsport. You need get a clue. It's nasty and unforgiving. But you have your opinion. My opinion is for Newt to fight like a fucking honey badger. Plenty of time for apologies and/or congratulations later.
Posted by: Soona at January 04, 2012 03:10 PM (OOqdh)
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That's the point isn't it. The question is - of the three top candidates now, which ones do you know for certain would fight like a dog to win? I think Gingrich for sure, maybe Santorum but certainly not Romney.
The next question is - can either Gingrich or Santorum actually win? I'm not sure. I know the MFM would tear them each new bungholes. Whereas, I don't think they would go all out on Romney. So, does this give Romney a better chance to win? I don't think so. I would rather have a candidate doing anything.....and I mean ANYTHING to win.
Posted by: Chuck Norris's Right Bicep at January 04, 2012 11:17 AM (YUwuZ)
Posted by: Joffen at January 04, 2012 11:18 AM (zLeKL)
Not every sound that comes out of Romney's mouth is a conspiracy to destroy the Republican Party and America as we know it
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 04, 2012 03:16 PM (i6RpT)
Are you sure???
Because I was just reading this Ron Paul newsletter where it says that's the case.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 04, 2012 11:18 AM (sbV1u)
You did see the "honest" and "humble" parts there, right? Because those are the ones I think would give him the most trouble.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 11:18 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Voting In A Month at January 04, 2012 11:18 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: Joffen at January 04, 2012 03:14 PM (zLeKL)
Nothing wrong with standing up to a heckler. As long as he doesn't start "his turn" by saying, "Corporations are people, too, my friend." Because that makes him sound really out of touch with real people (even if it is technically true).
Posted by: stuiec at January 04, 2012 11:19 AM (Di3Im)
Posted by: Vergeltung at January 04, 2012 11:19 AM (jttPx)
I don't get what the problem is.
Posted by: Dustin at January 04, 2012 11:19 AM (rQ/Ue)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 04, 2012 11:19 AM (i6RpT)
You do not recall. He most certainly endorsed McCain over Obama, and he made a very enthusiastic endorsement of McCain for picking Palin.
Posted by: stuiec at January 04, 2012 03:06 PM (Di3Im)
Yup. You are correct. There's a lot of people on this thread that might want to peruse Rush's archives. He will always endorse the not-liberal/not-dem in the general election.
He knew McCain was a terrible candidate, but he knew what the SCOAMF wanted to do to our nation. The same can be said about any of the general elections while he's had the national microphone.
Posted by: Soona at January 04, 2012 11:19 AM (OOqdh)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 04, 2012 03:15 PM (sqkOB)
Must've gotten tired of walking his dog on the beach and drinking cocktails.
Posted by: ErikW at January 04, 2012 11:19 AM (n4XPJ)
Posted by: ace at January 04, 2012 02:44 PM (nj1bB)
Yep governing with good results is important, but before that you should actually convince the electorate to give you the keys to the Oval Office. And he does a really horrible job on this part. How is his record as the guv of Texas tangible if he doesnt promote it? When was the last time you have actually seen an add promoting the Texan jobs miracle? Perry wasted his time trying to outchristian Rick Saintorum and Michele-oh-dont-worry-we'll-pray-that-away-Bachmann.
And so much for "its merely a debating problem". Why would you think that once in office he would promote or defend the successes of his administration any better? Nobody wants another piñata president a la Bush and thats exactly what his performance is signaling.
Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 04, 2012 11:20 AM (q3zGg)
191 getting a mini cooper for my two teens who are ready to drive...........anyone have one? like it? don't like it?
Sporty nimble performance car with virtually no crash survivability and teenagers: What could possibly go wrong?
Although I hate mini coopers on principle, they do have a pretty good safety rate.
SUV rollover is more dangerous to a teen, I'm thinking.
Posted by: imp at January 04, 2012 11:22 AM (UaxA0)
Posted by: Joffen at January 04, 2012 11:22 AM (zLeKL)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 04, 2012 11:22 AM (aiCC5)
except one question.
then he always gets the wrong answer.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 04, 2012 11:22 AM (0q2P7)
The next question is - can either Gingrich or Santorum actually win? I'm not sure. I know the MFM would tear them each new bungholes. Whereas, I don't think they would go all out on Romney. So, does this give Romney a better chance to win? I don't think so. I would rather have a candidate doing anything.....and I mean ANYTHING to win.
Posted by: Chuck Norris's Right Bicep at January 04, 2012 03:17 PM (YUwuZ)
You mean, like the New York Times didn't publish front-page an entirely baseless story about McCain having an affair with a lobbyist, the very moment they knew for sure he would be the nominee?
The MFM will lie at the top of their metaphorical lungs to smear anyone who stands in the way of Obama's re-election (with the possible exception of helping Hillary stage a coup to replace Obama at the top of the Democrat ticket).
Posted by: stuiec at January 04, 2012 11:22 AM (Di3Im)
Quit yer bitchin'Posted by: Katy Beth at January 04, 2012 11:22 AM (YYkse)
Posted by: MDH3 at January 04, 2012 11:24 AM (GKyUC)
She's not voting Mitt.
She had been interested in Bachmann, but now that she's out she seemed interested in Perry.
I think a lot of the damage that happened earlier in the campaign is not that significant to most voters. Obviously it impacts support in the form of money and endorsements and coverage, but the candidates still have plenty of time to make their case.
Posted by: Y-not at January 04, 2012 11:24 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: jeanne! at January 04, 2012 11:24 AM (GdalM)
Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2012 03:17 PM (WkuV6)
Fixed for accuracy!
Posted by: Red Shirt at January 04, 2012 11:24 AM (FIDMq)
Did it look like Marcus Bachmann had a huge herpes sore on his mouth last night or was it just me?
Posted by: taylork at January 04, 2012 11:24 AM (5wsU9)
Chocolate is not an option. Next?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 04, 2012 03:12 PM (sbV1u)
a nice down comforter, that doesn't pile. and has a high thread count.
otherwise a candidate that has a good record ,will fight to roll back Obamacare, and work to balance the budget.
Posted by: willow at January 04, 2012 11:25 AM (h+qn8)
...And I'm supposed to ignore their freshly done nails, tattoos, and brand new Iphones while I write their scripts. Yeah, I know Quit yer bitchin'
Curb Feelers are an Inalienable Right!
Posted by: La Raza at January 04, 2012 11:25 AM (q/q9Y)
Posted by: Paul Kroenke at January 04, 2012 11:25 AM (FYRA3)
And I'm supposed to ignore their freshly done nails, tattoos, and brand new Iphones while I write their scripts.
Well, we love you because you don't ignore it.
But in Barack Hussein Obama's America...you're a racist.
So, you got that goin' for ya. Which is nice.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 04, 2012 11:25 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Chuck Norris's Right Bicep at January 04, 2012 03:17 PM (YUwuZ)
With the exception of RP, any of the repub candidates would probably win big, no matter what the MFM, DNC, or, for that matter, the RNC says. I don't think you really appreciate how disaffected Americans are now with the SCOAMF, polls be damned.
Posted by: Soona at January 04, 2012 11:25 AM (OOqdh)
Our real enemy? The Occupy Wall Street mentality of the Democrat voter. This is who your vote cancels out. This is the face of the Democrat party: my niece's boyfriend, who is a troglodyte (he likes: Weiner, Debbie Wassermanshits. This drop-out political science major did not know what "vetted" meant in relation to Obama and the media. He also did not know, after whining about Obama, what it meant to "primary" him. In short, he'd memorized stats about the GOP but had no idea what these stats meant. He also was furious that he was only making a dollar more than minimum wage as a telemarketer, and resented the "wealth" of the college educated, aka my husband, me, our sons). These are ignorant people who get their news from either the Daily Show or Daily Kos. You are not dealing with intelligent life.
I'd rather deal with a GOP voter who does not agree with me 365 days/week than an ill-informed, uneducated, welfare-begging jackass who votes for the (D) for socialism, expecting me to pay their way and share my "wealth."
This is what worries me...we cannot afford, this time, to be complacent and/or angry in November 2008. I do believe this is the election of our lifetimes to preserve what is left of our country. Vote GOP 2012. Then vote Rubio 2016.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at January 04, 2012 11:26 AM (baL2B)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 04, 2012 03:21 PM (sqkOB)
I meant seattle slough.
Whenever he'd get all discombulated, he'd go "pffft!" and claim to head to the beach.
Posted by: ErikW at January 04, 2012 11:26 AM (n4XPJ)
Santorum won big yesterday. I know you guys want him to go away. If Michelle Bachman was your candidate of choice you'd be saying Perry was dishonest by saying he was going back to Texas and then reemerging. That Michelle was the victim of the Palin/Perry liaison. And all kinds of stuff like that but, since perry is your guy, you keep quiet and say nothing.
Posted by: dip theory ah at January 04, 2012 11:26 AM (oZfic)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 04, 2012 11:26 AM (aiCC5)
a nice down comforter, that doesn't pile. and has a high thread count.
Posted by: willow at January 04, 2012 03:25 PM (h+qn
I'll send the catalogs for Frette and Scandia to your house. Put it on my tab.
As far as electable candidates like that go....we're fresh out.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 04, 2012 11:27 AM (sbV1u)
You kids crack me up.
Every day you keep trying to sell Rick Perry on the comment threads. You're wasting your time. It's not us you have to convince, it's the people outside.
They don't want Rick Perry. That's just the way it is.
Posted by: soothsayer at January 04, 2012 11:27 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 04, 2012 11:27 AM (FKQng)
Posted by: jeanne! at January 04, 2012 03:24 PM (GdalM)
I wish he'd take the 7 o'clock slot here in Central Ohio.
I just can't take Hannity anymore, God Bless him.
Posted by: ErikW at January 04, 2012 11:28 AM (n4XPJ)
Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at January 04, 2012 11:28 AM (plI4b)
I'm tired of it too. But I'm also cognizant of the fact that he's done little to change said meme. and it's something that the uninformed voter will latch on to after the media eviscerates him with it.
Posted by: taylork at January 04, 2012 11:30 AM (5wsU9)
Posted by: Joffen at January 04, 2012 11:30 AM (zLeKL)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 04, 2012 11:30 AM (aiCC5)
IÂ’m not worried about beating Obama and neither is Rush. Obama has already lost the 2012 election, so all we need to do is pick who will take the seat.
Posted by: jwest at January 04, 2012 11:31 AM (8moZm)
thanks Sean., i'll look them up can i also order off your acct?
smile
Posted by: willow at January 04, 2012 11:31 AM (h+qn8)
Obama has already lost the 2012 election, so all we need to do is pick who will take the seat.
Yeah, well don't get cocky kid.
It has to be outside the margin of fraud.
And with this crew, that's not a given.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 04, 2012 11:32 AM (sbV1u)
It's like if you owned a convenient store. You'd be putting your favorite brand of coffee on the shelves. You love the stuff. And it is far superior to the other brands you sell.
But nobody is buying it. None of your customers want it. And you continue to leave it on the shelf, gathering dust. Then you put out a big sign: "Look at this wonderful coffee!" Still nobody buys it.
The next week you put out a bigger sign: "WTF is wrong with you people, can't you see how great this coffee is? You idiots, you."
Still no buyers. Eventually you will accept it.
Posted by: soothsayer at January 04, 2012 11:32 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: MDH3 at January 04, 2012 03:24 PM (GKyUC)
This is a pretty big problem. His only national exposure has been bad performance at debates. He has had to perform better at them from the beginning, but now he pretty much would have to be utterly flawless and verbally pimpslap everybody.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 04, 2012 11:32 AM (TpXEI)
IÂ’m not worried about beating Obama and neither is Rush. Obama has already lost the 2012 election, so all we need to do is pick who will take the seat.
Posted by: jwest at January 04, 2012 03:31 PM (8moZm)
You're dangerously optimistic. We have not yet seen the worst of Ayers' and Axelrod's dirty tricks.
Posted by: joncelli, too stressed by half at January 04, 2012 11:33 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at January 04, 2012 03:28 PM (plI4b)
I don't think that's going to happen.
Rush has not been favorable towards Romney and McCain's endorsement today seemed to really put him off and anyone who follows Rush knows how much he dislikes McCain.
Posted by: ErikW at January 04, 2012 11:33 AM (n4XPJ)
Posted by: dad29 at January 04, 2012 11:34 AM (4hgxp)
thanks Sean., i'll look them up can i also order off your acct?
smile
Posted by: willow at January 04, 2012 03:31 PM (h+qn
Hmmm....there has got to be something in this for me. There's got to be.
Oh, did I say that out loud? Sorry, I have no interior monologue.
Check out Scandia Down and also Cuddledown of Maine. You might like their stuff if you're in the market for down.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 04, 2012 11:34 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Joffen at January 04, 2012 11:34 AM (zLeKL)
The MFM will lie at the top of their metaphorical lungs to smear anyone who stands in the way of Obama's re-election (with the possible exception of helping Hillary stage a coup to replace Obama at the top of the Democrat ticket).
Posted by: stuiec at January 04, 2012 03:22 PM (Di3Im)
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Yeah, I know and I fully agree. However, I don't think they would go all out on Romney. I think the MFM believes they could live with Romney if they had to. Whereas, the lies and exaggerations would never stop with Gingrich or Santorum. With Gingrich you have a candidate with intellectual-attention-deficit-syndrome. You never know what he's gonna say next - and half the time it's bat-shit crazy. With Santorum you have a staunch social conservative - the MFM would tear him apart on just this one issue.
So, at this point, I'm fairly certain we're screwed.
Posted by: Chuck Norris's Right Bicep at January 04, 2012 11:35 AM (YUwuZ)
IÂ’ve probably got socks in my drawer older than you.
Posted by: jwest at January 04, 2012 03:34 PM (8moZm)
I highly doubt it.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 04, 2012 11:35 AM (sbV1u)
I remember four years ago there were a lot of Republican Pauline Kaels. Here we go again, I guess.
Posted by: Anony at January 04, 2012 11:35 AM (Yigvc)
Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2012 11:35 AM (WkuV6)
Nope. Fuck the Iowa caucus with a dry cornstalk.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 04, 2012 11:35 AM (SY2Kh)
#319, soothsayer, who'se these mythical "they" you are talking about? "They" don't want Perry? How the hell do you know when only ONE state has had any say and they went for Ron Paul by 25,000?
I love you guys who seem to think that YOUR opinion is a crystal ball. Perhaps you can tell me where you bought it? Or is it a program add on to your computer?
Posted by: zane at January 04, 2012 11:36 AM (/l7cS)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 04, 2012 11:36 AM (i6RpT)
@ 307 and 309
This is why I love this blog! Ya'll always make me laugh. I guess in the obama America, I'll be hollering "avenge me!" and running my tin cup along the chain link fence with the rest of the hobbit - terrorist- raaaccciists.
Posted by: Katy Beth at January 04, 2012 11:36 AM (YYkse)
Nobody we would nominate would wake up every day with a million thoughts on how to fuck the USA in the ass hard like this prick does. In another life his whitey hating wife would be the militant anti capitalist in Castro's harem. They are grifters, living high on the hog in our money, and giggling to themselves how they are making this country pay. We are in a god damn dark ages. When the fuck face fuck was running in '08 his minions practically set up a frigging ministry of truth with threats of prosecution for speaking against this fucking turd. We got a dude who didn't even grow up here, who hasn't even EARNED the fucking right to tell Americans jack shit about how we live, but he infests every frigging last facet of our life.
Nobody we would nominate would remotely come close to this. Not ron paul who is out of his fucking mind, not the masshole Mitt "the hair" Romney, not Newt..... nobody. None of them would be the destroyer of worlds the prick we got now is.
Posted by: Berserker at January 04, 2012 11:37 AM (FMbng)
I love you guys who seem to think that YOUR opinion is a crystal ball. Perhaps you can tell me where you bought it? Or is it a program add on to your computer?
There's an ap for that!
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 04, 2012 11:37 AM (sbV1u)
It's on the shelf along with the other coffee brands!
People can see it; they can pick it up and look at it. At the end they still don't want it.
Rick Perry isn't hidden away in some back room. He's been at all the debates making his case along with the other candidates. The man just cannot gain any traction.
Posted by: soothsayer at January 04, 2012 11:37 AM (sqkOB)
Shit, you're lucky if they get that much information.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 04, 2012 11:38 AM (/kI1Q)
Wait, Romney leads Perry by ONE delegate? Only one?
Too F'n Funny. One.
It's the new mandate.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 04, 2012 03:18 PM (kaOJx)
Where did you guys get that from? As I understand it Romney takes 13, Santorum 12 and the rest none according to votes per congressional district.
Posted by: lowandslow at January 04, 2012 11:38 AM (GZitp)
They don't want Rick Perry. That's just the way it is.
Posted by: soothsayer at January 04, 2012 03:27 PM (sqkOB)
If he doesn't do well in SC and/or Fl then I'll concede (somewhat). One state does not a nomination make.
I still think we won't know for sure who our nominee will be until after the repub convention. This is far from over.
Posted by: Soona at January 04, 2012 11:38 AM (OOqdh)
I guess in the obama America, I'll be hollering "avenge me!" and running my tin cup along the chain link fence with the rest of the hobbit - terrorist- raaaccciists.
Posted by: Katy Beth at January 04, 2012 03:36 PM (YYkse)
And you'll be the subject of a thousand Moron dreams about "the prison doc."
Remember, we're degenerates.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 04, 2012 11:38 AM (sbV1u)
Perry is the most consevative with a good record. I'm voting for him, over Mitt, my former governor, in MA.
Perry admits mistakes. Mitt wil not admit Romneycare is a mistake. I do not trust him to repeal Obamacare,
Posted by: CarolT at January 04, 2012 11:38 AM (z4WKX)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 11:39 AM (8y9MW)
www.itsprettyfuckingobvious ifyouvebeenpayingattention.com
Posted by: taylork at January 04, 2012 11:39 AM (5wsU9)
Posted by: Mr Pink at January 04, 2012 11:39 AM (qF6uI)
SCOAMF just non-recess-appointed three more socialists to the NLRB.
Watch the next campaign finance reports for massive contributions from Big Labor.
Posted by: rockmom at January 04, 2012 11:39 AM (NYnoe)
Sporty nimble performance car with virtually no crash survivability and teenagers: What could possibly go wrong?
I bought one in June. HATE it.
1. Run flat tires bounce the damn thing all over the road. Hit a minor bump on the freeway, and find yourself the next lane over. Since I live in the SF Bay Area, the freeway is full of bumps, potholes, etc. I spend a lot of time making sure I have ample space around my car so I can bounce around all over the place without hitting anyone.
2. Rain pours in through the windows into your face. Sounds silly, right? But the roof of the MINI is narrower than the body. Thus, all of the water/dew/whatever that accumulates on the roof pours into the car. You can't put rainguards on the window frame, because there is no window frame.
3. Blind spot. Awful. I know that will depend on where you put your seat, but when I turn my head to check my blind spot, I see only the frame between the driver's window and the passenger's window.
4. Invisibility. You are invisible to every other car on the road EXCEPT THE COPS! Ten years of driving a VW Jetta with wild abandon yielded no tickets. I had two tickets in a three-week period in the MINI. The first one was richly deserved. The second one I was just driving along with the traffic. Cop picked my car out.
5. Reduced Vision. The windshield is short, the top is low, good luck seeing the street lights change without hunkering down in your seat and twisting your head.
I've got lots and lots more, but don't want to bore you.
Posted by: kathysaysso at January 04, 2012 11:40 AM (ZtwUX)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 04, 2012 11:40 AM (i6RpT)
Posted by: DixieLove at January 04, 2012 11:40 AM (tIpRe)
Well, I'd rather watch the Impeachment proceedings, but I guess I'll settle for the quid pro quo.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 11:40 AM (8y9MW)
becausetheysaidsodot.com
Posted by: willow at January 04, 2012 11:41 AM (h+qn8)
Posted by: Mr Pink at January 04, 2012 11:41 AM (qF6uI)
His lady pushed him out there and he's not too comfortable with it, but less comfortable with telling her no.
Posted by: ontherocks at January 04, 2012 02:35 PM (HBqDo)
Not really. A lot of big money backers and ordinary citizens like me encouraged him to run, because all the other not-Romney candidates were flailing. At least he had the guts to do it, while others wimped out (Christie, Daniels etc)
Posted by: stace at January 04, 2012 11:41 AM (lYlx9)
Posted by: Earth Bound Misfit at January 04, 2012 11:41 AM (jiwQf)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 04, 2012 11:41 AM (21lBC)
Republican candidates (all brands but RP) open with a wonderful aroma. After a few weeks - stale and bitter.
Posted by: RioBravo at January 04, 2012 11:42 AM (eEfYn)
Nobody we would nominate would wake up every day with a million thoughts on how to fuck the USA in the ass hard like this prick does. In another life his whitey hating wife would be the militant anti capitalist in Castro's harem. They are grifters, living high on the hog in our money, and giggling to themselves how they are making this country pay. We are in a god damn dark ages. When the fuck face fuck was running in '08 his minions practically set up a frigging ministry of truth with threats of prosecution for speaking against this fucking turd. We got a dude who didn't even grow up here, who hasn't even EARNED the fucking right to tell Americans jack shit about how we live, but he infests every frigging last facet of our life.
Nobody we would nominate would remotely come close to this. Not ron paul who is out of his fucking mind, not the masshole Mitt "the hair" Romney, not Newt..... nobody. None of them would be the destroyer of worlds the prick we got now is.
Posted by: Berserker at January 04, 2012 03:37 PM (FMbng)
But, but, but.... RINOs.
Posted by: Thoughtful Rebuttal at January 04, 2012 11:43 AM (yBtkG)
Posted by: Mr Pink at January 04, 2012 11:43 AM (qF6uI)
Posted by: Joejm65 at January 04, 2012 11:44 AM (UZuc4)
Maybe I'm nuts, but I don't care if the dude we end up having to vote for was caught pistol whipping a chick with a hard on and with a frigging bong in his other hand. He'll get my vote.
Well, actually, that's a very Moron-like reason to vote for the guy.
I predict that soon, Mitt's campaign team will have that exact pic Photoshopped.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 04, 2012 11:44 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: The Media at January 04, 2012 11:44 AM (pu3AL)
Posted by: Mr Pink at January 04, 2012 11:44 AM (qF6uI)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 04, 2012 11:44 AM (aiCC5)
Posted by: Joffen at January 04, 2012 11:44 AM (zLeKL)
Posted by: Earth Bound Misfit at January 04, 2012 11:44 AM (jiwQf)
I love you guys who seem to think that YOUR opinion is a crystal ball. Perhaps you can tell me where you bought it? Or is it a program add on to your computer?
There's an ap for that!
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 04, 2012 03:37 PM (sbV1u)
There sure is! The Onion Magic Answer Ball!
Posted by: stuiec at January 04, 2012 11:45 AM (Di3Im)
Maybe I'm nuts, but I don't care if the dude we end up having to vote for was caught pistol whipping a chick with a hard on and with a frigging bong in his other hand.
Berserker, just last night you were telling us it wasn't your time.
Are you throwing you hat in the ring?
Posted by: fluffy at January 04, 2012 11:45 AM (3SvjA)
How many not-Mitts are running now? Let's see, there's Noot and the two Ricks... Mitt's got his 25%, Paul somewhere between 15-20, let's go low and call it 15%. That's 40%... right?
So if you have three not-Mitts, they get to split the other 60%, more or less?
Nobody beats Mitt that way. Even with only 2 not-Mitts, you have a small margin, assuming any of the not-Mitts have enough money to run in enough primaries before Mitt starts growing out of that 25%.
Perry should quit. Period. I know he had the best organization of the 3, but he got the fewest votes in Iowa, a state he hit HARD!
Quit Rick, let Noot and Sweater-vest Rick see if either of them can derail the Mitt-train before it gets too far down the track. Unless you're already on the train, in which case, keep splitting the not-Mitt vote. Maybe he'll put you on the ticket. And maybe he won't.
Posted by: Burt TC at January 04, 2012 11:46 AM (TOk1P)
But it's on sale, you can't afford not to buy it.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 04, 2012 11:46 AM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: Mr Pink at January 04, 2012 11:46 AM (qF6uI)
*Santorum is probably not going to finish strong anywhere but Iowa. 5-15% until he drops out from lack of funding and organization (at least I can hope)
*If Newt or Perry make it to post Super Tuesday they quite likely would beat Romney in the long 2 man race since the majority of actual voting is still left. Romney is a very weak frontrunner and simply loses a 2 man republican race. (with Paul sucking up 1/4'ish of remaining votes)
*Obama was much stronger with the majority of his base and Hillary nearly beat him by the end. Again Romney is wayyyy weaker with the base then Obama was.
Posted by: Shiggz at January 04, 2012 11:46 AM (RfvTE)
For pete's sake, when Brand Newt got stinky which brand did people turn to next?
They went to Rick frikkin Santorum. They passed over Rick Perry for Santorum.
Nothing against Santorum, but shit, he's nothing great. Rick Perry is far better in every way compared to Rick Santorum.
And yet, people flocked to Santorum over Perry.
Posted by: soothsayer at January 04, 2012 11:46 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 04, 2012 11:46 AM (21lBC)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 04, 2012 03:41 PM (21lBC)
Well said and good points. Rush does reach 20 million listeners so he has a huge footprint in this election.
I won't vote for someone just because the great Rushbo endorses, but he should throw his girth behind the GOP nominee even if it is Mitt Romney. I guess he did in 2008, but I have some type of protective amnesia of that time in my life and did not remember much.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at January 04, 2012 11:46 AM (baL2B)
Front and rear it gets "good" which it should because for front and rear they run the car into a stationary object, since the Cooper has no mass. It suffers when it is hit by something else (side impact).
Needless to say, of course safety wasn't ignored in the design. But you can only make a light car so safe when it comes to taking on cars that are much heavier. A full sized sedan is over 1000lbs heavier. In a head on, that means final momentum of a totally inelastic collision (for 60 mph) is 12 mph backwards for the Mini, causing the mini to have to absorb a 72mph speed shift during the head on while the sedan only sucks up 48. These sorts of comparisons aren't even considered when establishing crash safety.
But sure, small cars are just as safe, because they run them into walls and stuff to test them.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 04, 2012 11:47 AM (0q2P7)
Here in a few weeks I could buy it. If I forewent the cruise I promised my wife.
But my couch isn't that comfortable.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 11:47 AM (8y9MW)
Rush is not the savior and is not responsible for whether your candidate wins or loses. Sorry.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 04, 2012 03:41 PM (21lBC)
Well said. And completely correct.
Posted by: Soona at January 04, 2012 11:47 AM (OOqdh)
Rush, first and foremost, is an entertainer. He can't stand by one candidate now and risk alienating small or even large segments of his audience who might not agree with his choice. Ratings, ad revenue, and so on....
That's the difference between El Rushbo and bloggers.
Rush knows what he's doing.
Posted by: The Media at January 04, 2012 11:48 AM (pu3AL)
What a lame argument. He's still in the race, and if people here like him, why should they not support him?
Jersey Shore is popular; that doesn't mean I have to watch that brain-melting crap when I have the option to watch something else.
Posted by: Waterhouse at January 04, 2012 11:48 AM (FUYSU)
Obama goes on attack in swing-state Ohio against Congress
"When Congress refuses to act and as a result hurts our economy and puts people at risk, I have an obligation as president to do what I can without them," Obama said in the high-school gymnasium, standing in front of Cordray and near a large White House "We Can't Wait" sign.
"I will not stand by while a minority in the Senate puts party ideology ahead of the people they were elected to serve," the president continued. "Not when so much is at stake. Not at this make-or-break moment for the middle class...I refuse to take no for an answer."
Posted by: Miss80s at January 04, 2012 11:48 AM (d6QMz)
your a GREAT! American!
Posted by: S. Hannity at January 04, 2012 11:48 AM (Zw/H7)
Perry is the most consevative with a good record. I'm voting for him, over Mitt, my former governor, in MA.
Perry admits mistakes. Mitt wil not admit Romneycare is a mistake. I do not trust him to repeal Obamacare,
Posted by: CarolT at January 04, 2012 03:38 PM (z4WKX)
Excellent! Now, what will Perry need to do to convince more GOP primary voters in South Carolina and Florida to make the same decision you've made? What did Perry do to get you on board, and can he do the same for enough SC and FL voters to win those primaries?
Posted by: stuiec at January 04, 2012 11:48 AM (Di3Im)
Posted by: Mr Pink at January 04, 2012 11:48 AM (qF6uI)
*Romney is weak enough with the base, that if Newt or Perry last past Super Tuesday, they will almost certainly win.
Posted by: Shiggz at January 04, 2012 11:49 AM (RfvTE)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 11:49 AM (8y9MW)
So Ace is now annoyed at Rush not endorsing Perry? WTH?
Would that be the same Rush that Ace claimed "attacked" him and other bloggers for lacking ideological purity and cried and whined and menstruated about it in several posts last month? But now Ace's candidate of choice is floundering, so now he would like mean old Rush to endorse him?
I guess the MSM isn't the only place with a 'memory hole'.
Posted by: Log Cabin at January 04, 2012 11:50 AM (8+NvL)
They went to Rick frikkin Santorum. They passed over Rick Perry for Santorum.
Nothing against Santorum, but shit, he's nothing great. Rick Perry is far better in every way compared to Rick Santorum.
And yet, people flocked to Santorum over Perry.
Perry had his month where he was flavor of the month, 2 seconds after he announced. Remember? Tardisil? Perry was LEADING back then?
Santorum was the last candidate to get a look. Get over it. Maybe Perry will get a second look once the Santorium calms down.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 04, 2012 11:50 AM (0q2P7)
Unless they both do.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 11:50 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 03:39 PM (8y9MW)
Yeah, well, you're not getting a raise.
Posted by: AllenG's Boss (Dedicated Bottom-Liner) at January 04, 2012 11:50 AM (yBtkG)
HOPE springs eternal.......
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at January 04, 2012 11:51 AM (C8hzL)
Penicillin.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 03:49 PM (8y9MW)
Vancomycin.
Just in case.
We want to be safe, not sorry.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 04, 2012 11:51 AM (sbV1u)
'Cause he's tripped over it lots of times. Too many times. I fear.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at January 04, 2012 11:51 AM (7+pP9)
He's still in the race, and if people here like him, why should they not support him?
Good question. Unless you're thinking I'm saying we here should not support Rick Perry anymore, which I'm not. I'm just saying his candidacy is stuck in neutral with a busted transmission.
Posted by: soothsayer at January 04, 2012 11:51 AM (sqkOB)
Whatever one might think about Rush, his comments today were pretty intriguing about how Newt might be so pissed about the negative attack ads in Iowa, he might just try to take down Romney for personal revenge.
Which would benefit Santorum and maybe Perry.
It would make for an interesting campaign season!
Posted by: ErikW at January 04, 2012 11:55 AM (n4XPJ)
Posted by: Joffen at January 04, 2012 11:55 AM (zLeKL)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 04, 2012 11:55 AM (21lBC)
Posted by: Adjoran at January 04, 2012 11:57 AM (VfmLu)
Posted by: Barack Obama at January 04, 2012 11:57 AM (hM0FR)
390 @339. The MBM will not be happy with anyone except their boyfriend, Obama. They will train their sights on the GOP nominee even if it were their vaunted Huntsman (Huntsman, LOL) and do everything they can to destroy him.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 04, 2012 03:46 PM (21lBC)
I’ve got to disagree somewhat. Some in the MSM are showing cracks in their love of Obama. There are a few that are beginning to read the handwriting on the wall and know he’s going down big time in 2012 – taking the rest of the party with him.
Once the journolisters see enough data from the internal polls, theyÂ’ll turn on him. That will signal ObamaÂ’s dropping out of the race about 30 days before the convention. Hillary will get the nomination by acclamation in a last ditch effort to energize the party and save as many downstream elections as possible.
Posted by: jwest at January 04, 2012 11:58 AM (8moZm)
Perry has a great record, he really does. It's just that he is inarticulate. Not dumb, because he has some really great ideas.
That argument would play with the wider electorate (not really but work with me here...) if only George Bush had not already poisoned that well.
I think the country has had enough of Texas politicians for a while. Bush fatigue was (and is) real. Many people see Perry as Bush 2.0.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 04, 2012 11:58 AM (sbV1u)
I'll be buying the roadster for myself as soon as they release in in a few months.
I won't let my kids near it though.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at January 04, 2012 11:59 AM (9t6jP)
Keep your eyes on the goal of who we need to be angry with and who we need to defeat in November.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at January 04, 2012 12:00 PM (baL2B)
Two weeks ago Perry was in BachmannÂ’s position in Iowa. His showing last night was less than expected but quite a bit better than it could have been just before Christmas.
It seems to me that Perry finally found his stride but a little late to make a difference in IA or NH. With Newt going negative and Santorum about to get a vetting that will look like a hydro-colonic and Bachmann out, Perry could in fact be the last non-Mitt standing.
IÂ’ve supported Perry all along. If he wants to continue IÂ’ll keep supporting him
Posted by: nancy at January 04, 2012 12:00 PM (RXUy+)
They went to Rick frikkin Santorum. They passed over Rick Perry for Santorum.
Nothing against Santorum, but shit, he's nothing great. Rick Perry is far better in every way compared to Rick Santorum.
And yet, people flocked to Santorum over Perry.
Posted by: soothsayer at January 04, 2012 03:46 PM (sqkOB)
People here are discussing buying cars, and there's an analogy to how the Iowans chose their preferred candidates.
Each Iowan who cared enough to caucus wanted to pick the "best" candidate. For some, that was easy: they had a particular candidate in mind and chose him or her. For others, it meant looking over all the available choices.
Santorum had been available (campaigning in-state) longer than anyone else and was well-known to Iowans. So he was always there as a backup choice.
As the other candidates presented themselves, Iowans got to kick their tires and evaluate their features and styling. On initial impressions, they flocked to each exciting new candidate, until they got the "CARFAX" report or experienced a test drive. Perry in particular handled very rough in his test drives, even if he had a pretty clean CARFAX report and solid dependability ratings.
After they pretty much threw over the Pawlenty, the Bachmann, the Perry and the Cain, they did go back to re-evaluate a model they'd previously passed over, the 2012 Gingrich, but then looked again at his CARFAX and lost much of their enthusiasm.
So when it came down to it, Santorum got the advantage of being the default choice for people not enthused about anyone else, as well as being the first choice of some folks who liked his particular features.
Posted by: stuiec at January 04, 2012 12:00 PM (Di3Im)
Posted by: Wodeshed at January 04, 2012 12:00 PM (hM0FR)
Rick Perry as the GOP Candidate would ensure Obamacare remains the huge issue it is for the general election and the economy. Mitts has no credibility when he says he'll repeal it. Someone on this blog I believe also noted that Rick Perry is the only candidate with a perfect response to Obama's whining "I inherited this economy from Bush." Perry's reply? "So did I. Look what I've done with it." I'm with Perry. He can win.
Posted by: ol' miss at January 04, 2012 12:01 PM (QBKYa)
And falsely blamed again, as he honors Freedom of Religion; and chooses leaders on merit; regardless of race, or religion...
But I'm pretty sure that pundits and commentators are steering clear of the blatantly FALSE rumor going around that he is in bed with Muslims, enabling illegal immigrants.. And this is just 100% false.
And this all started two months before Perry announced his candidacy... WH briefed lib MSM 2 mo. before Perry candidacy; to use any means necessary to avoid a split in B.O's Hispanic vote...
(Says US expat Journalist.)
Posted by: bbay at January 04, 2012 12:01 PM (+uy5K)
Wouldn't it be great to beat Obama with Bush's Lt. Governor? That would be a stunning rebuke not only of Obama, but liberalism in general.
Perry has a great record, he really does. It's just that he is inarticulate. Not dumb, because he has some really great ideas.
Come on, wouldn't it be fun to beat Obama/Dems with Perry? Liberals would kill themselves.
Posted by: Joffen at January 04, 2012 03:55 PM (zLeKL)
Of course it would!
Unfortunately, too many people believe that inarticulate equals dumb (despite their successful record) and articulate equals smart! even though there's no record to run on.
A lot of Conservatives need to fall out of the cluebat tree and hit every branch.
Posted by: ErikW at January 04, 2012 12:02 PM (n4XPJ)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 04, 2012 12:03 PM (21lBC)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at January 04, 2012 12:05 PM (CLIf7)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 04, 2012 12:06 PM (21lBC)
I didnÂ’t mean to suggest the MSM would support the republican candidate. I believe they will turn on Obama if they think heÂ’s going to lose big and that if they can get rid of him, Hillary will step in.
Posted by: jwest at January 04, 2012 12:06 PM (8moZm)
And last... Perry will surely win by HUGE majorities... He is being shot-down by the B.O. protectorate; who are eliminating him, based upon his much wider vote base. I can assure you, he is not a stumbler.. He is the best candidate we've got...
Posted by: bbay at January 04, 2012 12:07 PM (+uy5K)
And last... Perry will surely win by HUGE majorities... He is being shot-down by the B.O. protectorate; who are eliminating him, based upon his much wider vote base. I can assure you, he is not a stumbler.. He is the best candidate we've got...
Posted by: bbay at January 04, 2012 04:07 PM (+uy5K)
This takes first place in the AoSHQ 2012 Wishcasting Contest.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 04, 2012 12:09 PM (sbV1u)
I agree. And while I remain a devoted Perrywinkle, I worry about that Bush 2 syndrome.
I know too many idiots who voted for Obama because they didn't like or were tired of Bush, which I found really weird, since Bush wasn't on the ballot I myself had. But I am just a dumb hillbilly, after all; maybe they had different ballots up north in those Blue States.
Posted by: Tammy al' Thor at January 04, 2012 12:10 PM (SsG4J)
Posted by: John at January 04, 2012 12:10 PM (BBlzg)
"Okay, I think Santorum can be a whiny bitch, but why won't women, specifically, vote for him?"
I have my own opinions on these issues but my quick guess would be that snapshots like the following might be a problem with many women.
(1) Schiavo intervention when he went to her hospital and got in the middle of removal of life support controversy. Then I recall he kind of bragged afterwards about having done the right thing.
(2) Strong outspoken pro-life stance.
(3) Has implied in the past that government does have a right, if not a duty, to be concerned about what goes on in people's bedrooms, etc.
Add to that the MSM tarring him as a religious, homophobic, intolerant zealot. He would get as bad, if not worse, treatment than Palin if he ever becomes any kind of legit threat. Think he'll get a fair shake on shows like The View? They have a lot of viewers, and those aren't guys in the audience clapping wildly when Rosie O'Donnell spouts off about how radical Christianity is more dangerous than radical Islam.
Posted by: RM at January 04, 2012 12:12 PM (TRsME)
To answer your question: McCain/Feingold. Because of that law, if a radio host gives positive air-time to a candidate- without giving "equal time" to several candidates for the same position- it is considered a campaign donation.
How come the media being 100 fucking % in the tank for Obama and the Democrats is not considered a campaign donation? Hmmmmm?
I'll answer myself. Because the media is a 100% wholly owned subsidiary of the Communist Democrat Party, that's why.
Posted by: LGoPs at January 04, 2012 12:15 PM (+Uv5V)
gotta agree - I read his book and I couldn't even make it past the first half, it was just so full of righteous didactic anger.
Righteous didactic disgust of the SCoaMF Obama is the best of all, but I'll settle for righteous didactic anger for my daily political fix.
Posted by: Worf the Wonder Klingon at January 04, 2012 12:15 PM (wL5Cc)
And you think this will hurt him with women, why? Women are pro-death?
Posted by: mama winger at January 04, 2012 12:17 PM (P6QsQ)
"Women are pro-death?"
Nope. I knew this was coming. I may be wrong, but first off, I'm talking about the entire universe of women out there, not just conservative women. Also, my sense is a higher proportion of women would be more uncomfortable with someone who tends to be more "in your face" on this issue. I know some women who have made very hard decisions to terminate a pregnancy, and they (and their women friends) are extremely protective of that decision, even if they have more of a pro-life view in general. I don't really know how they feel, other than I have a real strong perception that they don't want someone harping on that.
Posted by: RM at January 04, 2012 12:28 PM (TRsME)
I could understand taking a gamble on nominating Perry if the matchup looked close vs Obama, but it's not. The polls have Perry in Palin territory against Obama, he's nearly dead last in the electability department. And for those of you who think, "polls are wrong" go look at the RCP average and compare it to the final results in Iowa. They're dead on.
I'm all for a Presidential candidate to the Right of Romney, but they have to be VIABLE. I'll take my chances on a center-right President over a 2nd term for Obama any day.
Posted by: 8 Track at January 04, 2012 12:28 PM (0kf1G)
And last... Perry will surely win by HUGE majorities... He is being shot-down by the B.O. protectorate; who are eliminating him, based upon his much wider vote base. I can assure you, he is not a stumbler.. He is the best candidate we've got...
Posted by: bbay at January 04, 2012 04:07 PM (+uy5K)
Good God people. You've been sitting around something akin to a dead body for the past few months confidently expecting it to spring to life. The only thing Perry's campaign will accomplish now is to help Romney get elected. Every other expectation is pure delusion.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at January 04, 2012 12:28 PM (m/TU6)
In 08 Romney bailed out after I think a 2nd place Florida showing on super Tuesday. At that point it was clear that Huck and Paul were hanging around and dividing the conservative vote with no hope of winning over McCain. (again weak but solid 25%)
Say what you will about Rino's they pick one guy and stick with him all the way to the end. Conservatives break up into all their little factions and divide themselves and resources and bounce from one guy to another. Is this how I should expect every election in the future to go?
Posted by: Shiggz at January 04, 2012 12:30 PM (RfvTE)
Posted by: John at January 04, 2012 04:10 PM (BBlzg)
Because it's not true. It's a lie. Most people know when they're being lied to.
Posted by: ErikW at January 04, 2012 12:33 PM (n4XPJ)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 04, 2012 12:34 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: mama winger at January 04, 2012 12:34 PM (P6QsQ)
Rick Perry as the GOP Candidate would ensure Obamacare remains the huge issue it is for the general election and the economy. Mitts has no credibility when he says he'll repeal it. Someone on this blog I believe also noted that Rick Perry is the only candidate with a perfect response to Obama's whining "I inherited this economy from Bush." Perry's reply? "So did I. Look what I've done with it." I'm with Perry. He can win.
Posted by: ol' miss
I see lots of good campaign ideas on this blog on how Perry could do better. Unfortunately, Perry isn't doing any of these things. Maybe Ace should have a contest for the best ideas to help Perry. Take the top 10 or 15 and pass them along to the Perry campaign. I'm sure Ace or one of the other big time bloggers knows somebody who could reach the Perry campaign. How about it Ace?
Posted by: Worf the Wonder Klingon at January 04, 2012 12:34 PM (wL5Cc)
You know who has the best barbecue on the planet? South Carolina!
I call bullshit on this.........
Posted by: Hell If I Know at January 04, 2012 12:38 PM (XGLac)
Posted by: John at January 04, 2012 12:41 PM (BBlzg)
Posted by: Don't hate the playa hate the game at January 04, 2012 12:43 PM (1GlXg)
Posted by: RM at January 04, 2012 12:54 PM (TRsME)
He already has, without a second term to work for, he'll have nothing to lose and really cut lose next term, though.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 04, 2012 12:54 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Thatcher the milk snatcher at January 04, 2012 01:04 PM (rZZA3)
With the right leadership, the right executive, they would, but I don't see that kind of leadership anywhere in the GOP candidates.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 04, 2012 01:11 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: elizabethe is *still* all in for Perry at January 04, 2012 01:13 PM (f9AC9)
>>>Perry - folksy, ill-prepared, good record but not much else
What the hell else does he need?
You own a business. You interview based on their resume.
Perry has the BEST resume.
The best experience.
And the BEST RECORD!
He doesn't NEED anything else!
Posted by: TypicalWhitey at January 04, 2012 01:39 PM (xeVap)
Posted by: doug at January 04, 2012 01:45 PM (iq/yq)
Posted by: John at January 04, 2012 01:45 PM (BBlzg)
Posted by: MDH3 at January 04, 2012 01:46 PM (GKyUC)
Posted by: Underdown at January 04, 2012 02:10 PM (UBfKW)
Perry is going nowhere in this primary.
1. His "heartless" comment on immigration reminded too many people of Dubya and his relentless fixation on comprehensive immigration reform. Patriotic immigration reformers get enough of that from Democrats, don't need if from our own party.
2. Texans seem oblivious to this, a large portion of the country doesn't want to see another Texas politician for awhile. Texans like to claim they have a different view of things. That's fine, just realize a lot of people are tired of your views.
3. Yes SS and Medicare are disasters. But, you can't blurt out that you want to end them without addressing how people are going to retire. For good or ill, a lot of people rely on SS and Medicare for the majority of their retirement. Without laying out a solid plan that addresses the issues of the working class and the old, it is folly to make such "bold" statements. In other words talk nice in debates while laying out a plan in other venues.
4. Gardasil is bigger with some groups than given credit. And, no he didn't really apologize. It was one of those vague type apologizies that aren't really apologizes. Much like the heartless comment apology.
I want to like Perry, but just fear he is another catch-phrase throwing GWB. Let's face it, the Dubya administration, while not as incompetent as the liberals like to make it out to be, wasn't too competent a lot of times. Perry reminds me of Dubya in that regard.
Posted by: Chris at January 04, 2012 02:23 PM (8w31b)
Gardasil is about a zillion times less intrusive than Romneycare.
Texas clearly has a better direction than, say, MA or DC.
And Perry is awesome on immigration (border control). Better than Romney, who was promptly shut down for being an utter pretender and former amnesty fan.
Sure, Perry has flaws. Everything you list is a flaw, but minor and there isn't someone better.
So people just rule out the best one and are stumped when we wind up with something crappier?
Posted by: Dustin at January 04, 2012 03:22 PM (rQ/Ue)
Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at January 04, 2012 04:36 PM (bohBF)
Posted by: csm at January 04, 2012 07:52 PM (P8mj5)
Carville is an ass.
I will vote for Perry. All the put downs and insults just make me more determined to vote for the best guy running.
Posted by: Case at January 04, 2012 10:02 PM (DYR2Q)
Because they are absolutely sure that Romney is the anti-Christ.
They fight Romney harder than they ever fought Obama.
The country be damned, they hate Romney.
They are all a bunch of hypocrites!!!! They can't stand someone who is actually honest and conservative. They've never run across someone like that before and they feel emasculated.
They never were real men in the first place. They just didn't know it until they saw Romney.
Romney is an actual conservative, he doesn't just play one on TV or the radio.
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