January 26, 2012
— andy CNN. 8pm Eastern.
I wish I could say I was excited about another debate, but I've seen enough of these to last a lifetime.
To overcome the lack of enthusiasm, even the extreme ennui shown by *ahem* certain parties, we're going to mix it up a little tonight. What if there was a liveblog where you could make your own comments?
There are about 25 slots in the liveblog app that can be used for promoting commenters to unmoderated status. We'll fill 'em up tonight with Morons and Moronettes in good standing (maybe even Jeff B.) and just let you guys go.
And before anyone starts bitching, you should know that this will be done in a completely arbitrary and unfair manner, so STFU. The cobloggers will probably spend most of their time just promoting other queued comments, though.
Don't screw it up!!!
Standard reminder: Your comments do not automatically display. So don't ask "Why aren't my comments displaying?" They don't display.
They're not posted comments a la chat room. Instead they go to queue, which the producers (cobloggers) read, and we post them, by hand, if we think they make a good point.
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Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at January 26, 2012 03:54 PM (QQAJP)
Posted by: Barry Obama at January 26, 2012 03:55 PM (lXi+d)
Posted by: Mitt Romney at January 26, 2012 03:55 PM (63TXA)
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at January 26, 2012 03:55 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: f2000 at January 26, 2012 03:56 PM (FcMtg)
Posted by: Soona at January 26, 2012 03:57 PM (ZVvIA)
Posted by: ontherocks at January 26, 2012 03:58 PM (ZJCDy)
Snowing like hell too. King crabs legs for me tonight.
Have fun, check in later.
Posted by: Billy Bob, the 1% at January 26, 2012 03:59 PM (tWFaN)
Posted by: Jones at January 26, 2012 03:59 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Jean at January 26, 2012 04:00 PM (4jJCE)
Posted by: resigned to my fate at January 26, 2012 04:00 PM (axc/z)
She's got the shape of a piece of particle board, but without the brainpower.
Posted by: ontherocks at January 26, 2012 04:01 PM (ZJCDy)
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She finally couldn't stand Jim Cramer any more and left CNBC. Fox had their chance and missed it.
Posted by: Retread at January 26, 2012 04:01 PM (joSBv)
Well, maybe Mittens will remind everyone that he now has the endorsement and full support of 100% of the living Republicans who have LOST a presidential election.
Posted by: Mark E at January 26, 2012 04:02 PM (smcOy)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 04:02 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Jones at January 26, 2012 04:02 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Soona at January 26, 2012 04:02 PM (ZVvIA)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at January 26, 2012 04:03 PM (QQAJP)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at January 26, 2012 04:03 PM (QQAJP)
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at January 26, 2012 04:04 PM (7+pP9)
Posted by: waelse1 at January 26, 2012 04:04 PM (1M81x)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at January 26, 2012 04:04 PM (KaB2+)
Posted by: waelse1 at January 26, 2012 04:05 PM (1M81x)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 04:05 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2012 04:05 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: Peregrine Took, Hobbit S.O.B. at January 26, 2012 04:06 PM (yehN5)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at January 26, 2012 08:03 PM (QQAJP)
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Bush the Elder has already endorsed Mittens. As have Dole and McCaine.
A Trifect of defeated Republican moderates.
You are probably correct on Bush the younger also supporting the establishment candidate. I haven't actually heard of it yet.
Posted by: Mark E at January 26, 2012 04:06 PM (smcOy)
I'd like to point out only one member of the Romney household is so flexible he can lick his own nuts.
And it ain't me.
Posted by: Mitt Romney's Dog
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 26, 2012 04:06 PM (3wBRE)
Posted by: avi at January 26, 2012 04:06 PM (iSFyV)
Posted by: waelse1 at January 26, 2012 04:07 PM (1M81x)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 26, 2012 04:07 PM (X3vSL)
Posted by: Soona at January 26, 2012 04:07 PM (ZVvIA)
Posted by: Willy at January 26, 2012 04:07 PM (/M/rE)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 26, 2012 04:08 PM (sb3kT)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 04:08 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: waelse1 at January 26, 2012 08:05 PM
He's got Newt on reach but I'm betting he has a glass jaw.
Posted by: huerfano at January 26, 2012 04:08 PM (lXi+d)
Posted by: Peregrine Took, Hobbit S.O.B. at January 26, 2012 04:08 PM (yehN5)
Sounds good to me.
Posted by: Willy at January 26, 2012 04:08 PM (/M/rE)
Posted by: tasker at January 26, 2012 04:08 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: waelse1 at January 26, 2012 04:09 PM (1M81x)
Posted by: Willy at January 26, 2012 08:07 PM (/M/rE)
Too bad Huntsman's not around to answer their questions in Mandarin.
Posted by: Peregrine Took, Hobbit S.O.B. at January 26, 2012 04:09 PM (yehN5)
2$;'fPosted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 04:10 PM (niZvt)
Good luck selling fucking calenders you sack of shit. /i>
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I don't miss that place.
Posted by: Willy at January 26, 2012 04:10 PM (/M/rE)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2012 04:10 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: mama winger at January 26, 2012 04:11 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 26, 2012 04:11 PM (X3vSL)
Posted by: steevy at January 26, 2012 04:11 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: resigned to my fate at January 26, 2012 04:12 PM (axc/z)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at January 26, 2012 04:12 PM (KaB2+)
Posted by: Soona at January 26, 2012 04:13 PM (ZVvIA)
She'll be the carcass draped in flypaper.
Posted by: ontherocks at January 26, 2012 04:13 PM (ZJCDy)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2012 04:13 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: Peregrine Took, Hobbit S.O.B. at January 26, 2012 04:13 PM (yehN5)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 04:13 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: mama winger at January 26, 2012 04:14 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Soona at January 26, 2012 08:13 PM (ZVvIA)
Lotta good looking bimbos and one dead horse in the audience.
Posted by: ontherocks at January 26, 2012 04:15 PM (ZJCDy)
NLRB preventing Boeing from opening a non-union plant in SC.
Fast and Furious.
Solyndra, other green businesses going under after receiving tax money.
$15 trillion in debt.
The economy.
Posted by: waelse1 at January 26, 2012 04:15 PM (1M81x)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 04:16 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 26, 2012 04:16 PM (X3vSL)
Posted by: Willy at January 26, 2012 04:16 PM (/M/rE)
Posted by: avi at January 26, 2012 04:16 PM (iSFyV)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2012 04:17 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 08:13 PM (niZvt)
Moron panel: Mr. Speaker. Did you really fuck that ole' bitch that was on tv the other night?
Posted by: Soona at January 26, 2012 04:17 PM (ZVvIA)
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Should have worn a hat with the AOS card tucked in the brim where "Press" used to be.
Posted by: Retread at January 26, 2012 04:17 PM (joSBv)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 04:17 PM (niZvt)
NLRB preventing Boeing from opening a non-union plant in SC.
Fast and Furious.
Solyndra, other green businesses going under after receiving tax money.
$15 trillion in debt.
The economy.
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Yep. CNN set up immigration as a distraction and infighting between Newt/Mitt.
Posted by: Willy at January 26, 2012 04:18 PM (/M/rE)
Posted by: Bob Unbanned Saget at January 26, 2012 04:18 PM (dBvlk)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2012 08:13 PM (GZitp)
Indeed.
Posted by: Pedophile Priest at January 26, 2012 04:19 PM (y/wJ7)
Posted by: Willy at January 26, 2012 04:19 PM (/M/rE)
Posted by: Danielle at January 26, 2012 04:20 PM (axc/z)
Posted by: Soona at January 26, 2012 04:20 PM (ZVvIA)
Posted by: chunky at January 26, 2012 04:20 PM (KSXQ+)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2012 04:21 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: steevy at January 26, 2012 04:21 PM (7W3wI)
Bless you Andy -- you're doing the Lord's work.
Now I'm gonna stretch out in bed and watch a good old B&W movie or some stupid crime show or maybe even watch the debate until the zombie pill kicks in.
Anyway, I don't think can't stand watching yet another full debate right now. I'll try, though.
Thanks for performing a yeoman's job.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at January 26, 2012 04:22 PM (7+pP9)
He's not going to do that anymore than McCain did.
Posted by: mama winger at January 26, 2012 04:22 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: waelse1 at January 26, 2012 04:23 PM (1M81x)
Posted by: S Daniel at January 26, 2012 04:23 PM (fM4AU)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2012 04:23 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: Peregrine Took, Hobbit S.O.B. at January 26, 2012 04:24 PM (yehN5)
Posted by: waelse1 at January 26, 2012 04:24 PM (1M81x)
Posted by: avi at January 26, 2012 04:24 PM (iSFyV)
Posted by: jewells45 at January 26, 2012 04:25 PM (Z71Vg)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2012 04:25 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2012 04:25 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: Willy at January 26, 2012 04:26 PM (/M/rE)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 04:26 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Danielle at January 26, 2012 04:26 PM (axc/z)
Posted by: jewells45 at January 26, 2012 04:26 PM (Z71Vg)
Posted by: Peregrine Took, Hobbit S.O.B. at January 26, 2012 04:26 PM (yehN5)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 26, 2012 04:26 PM (X3vSL)
Posted by: waelse1 at January 26, 2012 04:27 PM (1M81x)
This is not going well for any of the candidates, but I remain a committed republican who wishes the best for the party.
Posted by: Megster McCain at January 26, 2012 04:27 PM (TkGkA)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at January 26, 2012 04:27 PM (sJTmU)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2012 04:28 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: jewells45 at January 26, 2012 04:28 PM (Z71Vg)
Why should I? He's not a conservative!
Posted by: mama winger at January 26, 2012 04:28 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Willy at January 26, 2012 04:28 PM (/M/rE)
Posted by: steevy at January 26, 2012 04:28 PM (7W3wI)
*Why does Newt keep attacking Mitt with leftist BS? If he keeps this up I am going to assume its because he is to the left of Mitt Romney.
Posted by: Shiggz Newt Warp 9.9 at January 26, 2012 04:29 PM (RfvTE)
Posted by: avi at January 26, 2012 04:29 PM (iSFyV)
Posted by: ontherocks at January 26, 2012 04:30 PM (ZJCDy)
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Pauls' is too big, they should swap!
Posted by: Willy at January 26, 2012 04:30 PM (/M/rE)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at January 26, 2012 04:31 PM (sJTmU)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 26, 2012 04:32 PM (X3vSL)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 04:32 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: S Daniel at January 26, 2012 04:33 PM (fM4AU)
Posted by: ontherocks at January 26, 2012 04:33 PM (ZJCDy)
Posted by: Frank Fritz at January 26, 2012 04:33 PM (axc/z)
Posted by: waelse1 at January 26, 2012 04:33 PM (1M81x)
Posted by: avi at January 26, 2012 04:34 PM (iSFyV)
Posted by: ambrosia at January 26, 2012 04:34 PM (oZfic)
Was kinda hoping he'd at least slow down the MittMentum.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at January 26, 2012 04:35 PM (QQAJP)
Social policy questions in the debates are always big losers for the Republicans.
1) It fractions the party members
2) It makes the candidates say dumb things that they sometimes don't believe
3) It makes great fodder for the Oppo research people working for Obama
4) everything you say will be used against you
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at January 26, 2012 04:35 PM (sJTmU)
Posted by: S Daniel at January 26, 2012 04:35 PM (fM4AU)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 26, 2012 04:35 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Ringo at January 26, 2012 04:35 PM (dQ/Oc)
Posted by: avi at January 26, 2012 04:36 PM (iSFyV)
Posted by: ambrosia at January 26, 2012 04:36 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 26, 2012 04:36 PM (lCXr2)
Posted by: Palerider at January 26, 2012 04:37 PM (dkExz)
Posted by: Willy at January 26, 2012 04:37 PM (/M/rE)
Posted by: Mike Wolfe at January 26, 2012 04:37 PM (axc/z)
Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at January 26, 2012 08:33 PM
time to stop looking for government to be a benifiecent force in our lives going forward, and time to start looking towards other sources of maintaining personal, family, and financial stability and well-being.
In other words, it's every man for himself. And God help us all.
Posted by: mama winger at January 26, 2012 04:37 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: ontherocks at January 26, 2012 04:37 PM (ZJCDy)
Posted by: Ringo at January 26, 2012 04:37 PM (dQ/Oc)
Posted by: Justamom at January 26, 2012 04:37 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: dogfish at January 26, 2012 04:38 PM (N2yhW)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 26, 2012 04:38 PM (X3vSL)
Posted by: Barrack Insane Obama at January 26, 2012 04:38 PM (Ak2vQ)
Posted by: Helpful Pundit at January 26, 2012 04:38 PM (Knez9)
Posted by: Bob Unbanned Saget at January 26, 2012 04:38 PM (dBvlk)
Posted by: steevy at January 26, 2012 04:39 PM (7W3wI)
Actually, I'm going out to a Mexican dinner tonight, and then to the new Underworld movie. I figure it's less gory than the current fight between Gingrich and Romney (may the fleas of a mission camels nest in his crotch.)
Posted by: Lee at January 26, 2012 04:40 PM (RtwOA)
Posted by: Meghan McCain at January 26, 2012 04:40 PM (ubduJ)
Posted by: Jimbo at January 26, 2012 04:40 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: jewells45 at January 26, 2012 04:40 PM (Z71Vg)
Posted by: Ringo at January 26, 2012 04:40 PM (dQ/Oc)
Posted by: waelse1 at January 26, 2012 04:40 PM (1M81x)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2012 04:40 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 04:41 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Barrack Insane Obama at January 26, 2012 04:41 PM (Ak2vQ)
Posted by: steevy at January 26, 2012 04:41 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: Ringo at January 26, 2012 04:41 PM (dQ/Oc)
Thank you Santorum! Stay in the race till we vote in GA. and you'll get at least one vote. MINE!
Posted by: wierd flunky at January 26, 2012 04:41 PM (tlhtD)
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I can't get over Mitt losing to ted kennedy by nearly the same margin.
Posted by: Willy at January 26, 2012 04:42 PM (/M/rE)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 26, 2012 04:42 PM (X3vSL)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 04:42 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Justamom at January 26, 2012 04:42 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 26, 2012 04:42 PM (lCXr2)
Posted by: ontherocks at January 26, 2012 04:42 PM (ZJCDy)
Posted by: Palerider at January 26, 2012 04:43 PM (dkExz)
Posted by: waelse1 at January 26, 2012 04:43 PM (1M81x)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 04:44 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: some dope at January 26, 2012 04:44 PM (+kznc)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 26, 2012 04:44 PM (lAd9N)
Posted by: Willy at January 26, 2012 04:45 PM (/M/rE)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 04:45 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Helpful Pundit at January 26, 2012 04:45 PM (Knez9)
I wonder if Candy Crawley will ask questions?
It would be fun to watch Newt sodomize a chick that looks just like Bob Dole.
Bob Dole is offended that you would compare that particular reporter with Bob Dole. Bob Dole has kept himself in fighting trim and rises to any occasion. Bob Dole doubts that Crowley woman can say that.
Posted by: Bob Dole at January 26, 2012 04:45 PM (tQHzJ)
Posted by: resigned at January 26, 2012 04:45 PM (axc/z)
Posted by: some dope at January 26, 2012 04:45 PM (+kznc)
Posted by: avi at January 26, 2012 04:45 PM (iSFyV)
Ummm...both?
Posted by: MrScribbler at January 26, 2012 04:46 PM (tkd/a)
Posted by: ontherocks at January 26, 2012 04:46 PM (ZJCDy)
Bob Dole can name that tune in one note.
Posted by: Bob Dole at January 26, 2012 04:46 PM (wRQ/Z)
Posted by: snowcrash at January 26, 2012 04:46 PM (w3YD7)
Posted by: robtr at January 26, 2012 04:46 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: snowcrash at January 26, 2012 04:47 PM (w3YD7)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 04:47 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at January 26, 2012 08:46 PM
Vermin Supreme, baby!
Posted by: MrScribbler at January 26, 2012 04:48 PM (tkd/a)
Posted by: steevy at January 26, 2012 04:48 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: Jimbo at January 26, 2012 04:48 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2012 04:48 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2012 04:48 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: Peregrine Took, Hobbit S.O.B. at January 26, 2012 04:48 PM (yehN5)
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 26, 2012 04:48 PM (lCXr2)
Tonight debate score up to now:
Romney 4
Gingrich 0
Did Gingrich ask Romney for a truce? What a homo.
Posted by: Pete_Bondurant at January 26, 2012 04:48 PM (Q4jrq)
Posted by: Helpful Pundit at January 26, 2012 04:48 PM (Knez9)
Posted by: snowcrash at January 26, 2012 04:49 PM (w3YD7)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 04:49 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: waelse1 at January 26, 2012 04:49 PM (1M81x)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 26, 2012 04:49 PM (X3vSL)
Posted by: Willy at January 26, 2012 04:50 PM (/M/rE)
Posted by: wierd flunky at January 26, 2012 04:50 PM (tlhtD)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 26, 2012 04:50 PM (X3vSL)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2012 04:50 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: Jimbo at January 26, 2012 04:50 PM (O3R/2)
Bike Riding With Luap Nor!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey, Jumbo Jogging Shrimp. I think you should challenge Luap to a jog!
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 26, 2012 04:51 PM (lCXr2)
Like: You take the remote, Dear. I don't care what we watch as long as we are together.
Or: Can your mother stay 2 more weeks?
I noticed last week, with my last doll, how closely Mitt resembles Mr. Wonderful. Right down to the hair.
Posted by: Pecos, stupid Texan at January 26, 2012 04:51 PM (2Gb0y)
Posted by: ontherocks at January 26, 2012 04:51 PM (ZJCDy)
Posted by: chunky at January 26, 2012 04:51 PM (KSXQ+)
Helpful Pundit,
So having money in a Swiss Bank is equal to past due parking tickets? You realize this is a conservative blog don't you? Jeebus.
Posted by: robtr at January 26, 2012 04:51 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: jewells45 at January 26, 2012 04:51 PM (Z71Vg)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 26, 2012 04:51 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: steevy at January 26, 2012 04:51 PM (7W3wI)
^^^
Clearly we can do worse.
And his name is Newt Whiny Crybaby Bitch Gingrich.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at January 26, 2012 04:52 PM (AGZdk)
Posted by: steevy at January 26, 2012 04:53 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: robtr at January 26, 2012 04:54 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: Justamom at January 26, 2012 04:54 PM (Sptt8)
Good Stuff Wolf.
Posted by: ontherocks at January 26, 2012 04:54 PM (ZJCDy)
That's how I feel about these debates. Nodding out on the H-train would be an upgrade.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 26, 2012 04:54 PM (jhe07)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 04:55 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: steevy at January 26, 2012 04:55 PM (7W3wI)
Now he looks like the adult.
Fucked. We're just so fucked.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at January 26, 2012 04:55 PM (AGZdk)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2012 04:56 PM (Gc/Qi)
I'm gonna go with Michelle connecting with a frying pan.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 26, 2012 04:56 PM (jhe07)
Posted by: Justamom at January 26, 2012 04:56 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 26, 2012 04:57 PM (X3vSL)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 04:57 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2012 04:57 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: Jimbo at January 26, 2012 04:58 PM (O3R/2)
Somehow Santorum slipped in we have a 1.2 trillion dollar deficit this year. CNN somehow failed to cut his mike.
Posted by: waelse1 at January 26, 2012 04:58 PM (1M81x)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 04:58 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 26, 2012 04:59 PM (lCXr2)
Posted by: Bob Unbanned Saget at January 26, 2012 04:59 PM (dBvlk)
Posted by: some dope at January 26, 2012 04:59 PM (+kznc)
Okay, so I'm coming in and they're asking about space. The question is absurd. The answers are worse.
Newt has a shifty answer. Prizes, incentives, blah blah blah but he still wants the government to man rockets.
Mitt's is incoherent. He doesn't want to spend money but yeah, let's get the manned space program rolling again. Hellooooo Apollo!
Didn't care about Santorum.
Paul says we should rocket politicians to the moon. Preach it!
I'm gonna get shit for this, but Obama's approach has been best. Government manned space program? Fuck it! Really, guys, a government funded manned space program in this day and age is as stupid an idea as they come. We have a growing private space industry. That's wonderful and exciting. But suddenly these guys are taking the Rachel Maddow view of national greatness. Apparently it doesn't count unless the tax payers are wasting money on an agency, NASA, which can do about one thing at a time. Virgin Galactic? Space X? Well, fuck 'em I guess.
But China! On the moon! Hey, we're America. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.
Posted by: Robert at January 26, 2012 05:00 PM (F79HU)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 26, 2012 05:00 PM (X3vSL)
Posted by: Jimbo at January 26, 2012 05:00 PM (O3R/2)
Finally someone called out and Clinton/Newt on the false balanced budget.
Posted by: robtr at January 26, 2012 05:00 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 05:01 PM (niZvt)
Good Lord, Romney just slapped around Gingrich on his stupid moon colony idea.
"If somebody came to me with an idea like that, I would tell him you're fired."
Gingrich reminds me of a school bully. Stand up to him and he won't seem so tough. Romney is the bully tonight.
Posted by: Pete_Bondurant at January 26, 2012 05:01 PM (Q4jrq)
Posted by: Justamom at January 26, 2012 05:02 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2012 05:02 PM (Gc/Qi)
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I was thinking about voting teh Noot tomorrow, now I'm back to.. meh
Posted by: Willy at January 26, 2012 05:02 PM (/M/rE)
Hell that's one of the sanest things as of late.
Check out Miss. Tina's post over at Hot Air.
He wanted us to strive for a real life Jurrasic Park.
(no, seriously).
Posted by: laceyunderalls at January 26, 2012 05:02 PM (AGZdk)
Posted by: S Daniel at January 26, 2012 05:02 PM (fM4AU)
Posted by: Justamom at January 26, 2012 05:03 PM (iiJbl)
Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 26, 2012 05:03 PM (fuUYY)
Posted by: packsoldier at January 26, 2012 05:04 PM (1eHSY)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 05:04 PM (niZvt)
Actually there is, but its down the road a ways after the infrastructure to return materials is built.
I see it kinda like the interstate highway system. It wasn't originally built as a convenience for civilian commerce, rather a high speed transport means for cold war troop/weapons disposition that would be vastly better than using the local state roads. Once it was built and operational though, a cornucopia of commercial usage appeared and the original military reasons became a tiny footnote almost nobody is aware of these days.
A reactor powered rail gun on the moon could send back a steady stream of valuable materials
Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 26, 2012 05:04 PM (jhe07)
Posted by: steevy at January 26, 2012 05:04 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: S Daniel at January 26, 2012 05:04 PM (fM4AU)
Lacy,
I saw that, I was going to mention it but it would just be piling on.
Newt got his Romney/Goldman Sachs crap from Think Progress. Newt is dead to me now. I would vote for Obama before I voted for that trash.
Posted by: robtr at January 26, 2012 05:05 PM (MtwBb)
Romney is the bully tonight.
That's interesting. I didn't think he could pull that kind of persona off.
I can't watch, so I'm reading along. I've read enough that I must go upstairs and grab the wine to steady me.
Posted by: Meremortal at January 26, 2012 05:05 PM (nmNNk)
Posted by: Peregrine Took, Hobbit S.O.B. at January 26, 2012 05:05 PM (yehN5)
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 26, 2012 05:05 PM (lCXr2)
Posted by: wierd flunky at January 26, 2012 05:05 PM (tlhtD)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 05:06 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: steevy at January 26, 2012 05:06 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 26, 2012 05:06 PM (X3vSL)
Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood RN (Mentioned in Dispatches) at January 26, 2012 05:06 PM (kkQ6Q)
Posted by: some dope at January 26, 2012 05:07 PM (+kznc)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 05:07 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Bob Unbanned Saget at January 26, 2012 05:07 PM (dBvlk)
Posted by: Justamom at January 26, 2012 05:08 PM (iiJbl)
I know, I know, LSDNC is a joke, but are they attempting to make themselves look like clowns?
Posted by: David Kramer at January 26, 2012 05:08 PM (Ak2vQ)
JRubinBlogger santorum going after both romney and newt on obamacare.. he is really, really good tonight
Posted by: M80B at January 26, 2012 05:08 PM (d6QMz)
Posted by: some dope at January 26, 2012 05:09 PM (+kznc)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 26, 2012 05:09 PM (lAd9N)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 05:10 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Peregrine Took, Hobbit S.O.B. at January 26, 2012 05:10 PM (yehN5)
Posted by: ambrosia at January 26, 2012 05:10 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2012 05:10 PM (GZitp)
^^^
Honestly, I think CO'D would be a better candidate than Newt (engaging in a bit of hyperbole. But only a little).. At least she could say she didn't have the political experience/acumen to fully understand how her batshit comments would play in the public eye.
WTH is his excuse??
Ticking.Time.Bomb.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at January 26, 2012 05:11 PM (AGZdk)
They were thinking the next 4 years will suck bad and there would be precious little they could do but take the blame and be 1-termers.
That they didn't run this time shows they're not complete idiots or defectives.
The crew that did run are either incredibly naive, massively egotistical, and/or have some bizarre belief that they won't go down in history as the ships captain as the SS America slipped under the the waves.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 26, 2012 05:11 PM (jhe07)
Posted by: some dope at January 26, 2012 05:11 PM (+kznc)
Posted by: Pete_Bondurant at January 26, 2012 05:11 PM (Q4jrq)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2012 05:12 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 26, 2012 05:12 PM (lAd9N)
Reading this has to be a million times better than watching it.
I can't thank you all enough.
*sniff* *drinks*
Posted by: Meremortal at January 26, 2012 05:12 PM (nmNNk)
Posted by: Hoss Fuentes at January 26, 2012 05:13 PM (je9Ke)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2012 05:13 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: ambrosia at January 26, 2012 05:13 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: S Daniel at January 26, 2012 05:13 PM (fM4AU)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 26, 2012 05:13 PM (X3vSL)
Posted by: ambrosia at January 26, 2012 05:14 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2012 05:14 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2012 05:15 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 05:15 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: waelse1 at January 26, 2012 05:15 PM (1M81x)
Posted by: some dope at January 26, 2012 05:15 PM (+kznc)
Posted by: laceyunderalls proxy commenting for Waterhouse at January 26, 2012 05:15 PM (AGZdk)
Posted by: Pete_Bondurant at January 26, 2012 05:15 PM (Q4jrq)
Posted by: Meremortal at January 26, 2012 05:16 PM (nmNNk)
Santorum is against states rights on a bunch of things. Healthcare has just been added to the list.
Either we are for states rights or we are for the national government running everything. Which is it?
Posted by: robtr at January 26, 2012 05:16 PM (MtwBb)
Newt says susana martinez.
Hinted marco rubio for VP
Posted by: ambrosia at January 26, 2012 05:16 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 26, 2012 05:17 PM (fuUYY)
I can see the Obama commercials already --
Obamacare is 'not worth getting angry over'. Gov. Romney would agree.
Yikes.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at January 26, 2012 05:17 PM (AGZdk)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2012 05:17 PM (GZitp)
If the payoff is what I suspect it will be, its would cure all those red ink problems fairly quickly.
The cost of putting shit into earth orbit launched from earth is grotesque due to the deep gravity well we live in and the thick atmosphere. We need to be able to manufacture orbital stuff on the moon and insert it into earth orbit from there directly.
Without ever having to deal with issues like corrosion during construction, and having to withstand earth launch stresses, the methods and materials used to construct stuff on the moon can be a lot lighter and cheaper.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 26, 2012 05:18 PM (jhe07)
Posted by: a Vato at January 26, 2012 05:18 PM (nKPY4)
Posted by: avi at January 26, 2012 05:19 PM (iSFyV)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2012 05:19 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: chunky at January 26, 2012 05:19 PM (PGcZh)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2012 05:19 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: Wolf Blitzner at January 26, 2012 05:19 PM (mmHDH)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 05:19 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 26, 2012 05:20 PM (X3vSL)
We managed to hit the moon with regularity in the past using computers with less CPU power than a cell phone. Earth is a much bigger target.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 26, 2012 05:20 PM (jhe07)
Posted by: snowcrash at January 26, 2012 05:20 PM (w3YD7)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 26, 2012 09:04 PM (jhe07)
That's fine when it comes to imaginary fiction but that doesn't address the reality of today. C'mon.
I'm getting tired of you Sci-Fi types trying to explain away the problems of today with technologies that may or may not exist in the future.
Posted by: ErikW at January 26, 2012 05:20 PM (m7JTK)
Sounds like things are falling apart. You know, I love 'em all, bless their little pea-pickin' hearts. It's like the F Troop Goes to Washington. I actually have no idea which one would make the best President. And for the first time in my rather lengthy life...I don't think it matters.
As long as it one of them.
Posted by: Meremortal at January 26, 2012 05:20 PM (nmNNk)
Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 26, 2012 05:22 PM (fuUYY)
Posted by: Peregrine Took, Hobbit S.O.B. at January 26, 2012 05:22 PM (yehN5)
WTF? whos the best wife. how about the pipeline and gas?
Posted by: Racefan at January 26, 2012 05:22 PM (ETcED)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 26, 2012 05:23 PM (lAd9N)
Posted by: Jimbo at January 26, 2012 05:23 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: Wolf Blitzner at January 26, 2012 05:23 PM (mmHDH)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 05:23 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2012 05:23 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: TheThinMan at January 26, 2012 05:23 PM (/2ODN)
Posted by: Justamom at January 26, 2012 05:23 PM (iiJbl)
Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 26, 2012 09:22 PM (fuUYY)
If memory serves, the final bill was around 2,200 pages, and I get your point.
Posted by: Meremortal at January 26, 2012 05:24 PM (nmNNk)
BurtTC
What do you mean by Mitts which one regarding wives? Is that some sort of bigoted ding against his religion or do you know something the rest of the world doesn't?
Posted by: robtr at January 26, 2012 05:25 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 26, 2012 05:25 PM (lAd9N)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 05:25 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2012 05:25 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: Mr. Republican at January 26, 2012 05:26 PM (+kznc)
Rail guns exist. Today. Or you could go with an orbital tether system since all the randomness of atmosphere is eliminated.
Since the moon is tidally locked, hitting earth is easy. Aim at the big blue ball that never moves in the sky, and shoot. There's no complicated celestial mechanics involved.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 26, 2012 05:27 PM (jhe07)
Posted by: waelse1 at January 26, 2012 05:27 PM (1M81x)
phoenixgirl had the gas question covered in #375.
Posted by: Peregrine Took, Hobbit S.O.B. at January 26, 2012 05:27 PM (yehN5)
Posted by: Barack Obama at January 26, 2012 05:27 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2012 05:27 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 05:27 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 26, 2012 05:27 PM (X3vSL)
*****
I concur, but she has not been gushing *as much* about Romney lately. Even she realizes that he has been mishandling his responses to certain topics.
Posted by: M80B at January 26, 2012 05:27 PM (d6QMz)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2012 05:28 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: avi at January 26, 2012 05:28 PM (iSFyV)
Posted by: Wolf Blitzner at January 26, 2012 05:28 PM (mmHDH)
Posted by: Mr. Republican at January 26, 2012 05:28 PM (+kznc)
That means something to me.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at January 26, 2012 05:29 PM (AGZdk)
Posted by: Racefan at January 26, 2012 05:29 PM (ETcED)
Posted by: Mr. Republican at January 26, 2012 05:29 PM (+kznc)
Posted by: Sticking Neck at January 26, 2012 05:30 PM (ecmD4)
Posted by: The Olympics Card at January 26, 2012 05:30 PM (mmHDH)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 05:30 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 26, 2012 09:27 PM (X3vSL)
Related: I just got correspondence from Chesapeake telling me that they are cutting back on drilling gas wells in the Barnett Shale deposit in North Central Texas. They are going to wait for a better pricing environment. Seems there's a bit of an oversupply of nat gas.
Posted by: Meremortal at January 26, 2012 05:31 PM (nmNNk)
Posted by: Helpful Pundit at January 26, 2012 05:31 PM (Knez9)
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Yep, I find it hard to believe.
Posted by: Willy at January 26, 2012 05:31 PM (/M/rE)
Posted by: avi at January 26, 2012 05:31 PM (iSFyV)
Posted by: eman at January 26, 2012 05:32 PM (pn8u0)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 26, 2012 09:27 PM (jhe07)
Dude. It sounds good on paper but until you actually research it, build it, launch it and put it into practice, it's all bullshit.
Posted by: ErikW at January 26, 2012 05:32 PM (m7JTK)
Posted by: S Daniel at January 26, 2012 05:32 PM (fM4AU)
Posted by: avi at January 26, 2012 05:32 PM (iSFyV)
Obamneycare is awful, I'll repeal it
Posted by: Mr. Republican at January 26, 2012 09:26 PM (+kznc)
and what everyone fears the most, then he'll proceed to push romneycare on the states.
Posted by: ambrosia at January 26, 2012 05:33 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2012 05:33 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: Sticking Neck at January 26, 2012 09:30 PM (ecmD4) I don't recognize your handle but HollowPoint is far from stupid, relax. If rail guns etc. were competitive I think we'd be seeing more private sector and govt action.
Posted by: Meremortal at January 26, 2012 05:34 PM (nmNNk)
Posted by: chunky at January 26, 2012 05:35 PM (PGcZh)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2012 05:35 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: wierd flunky at January 26, 2012 05:35 PM (tlhtD)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2012 05:35 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: eman at January 26, 2012 05:36 PM (pn8u0)
Posted by: Wolfy Blitzner at January 26, 2012 05:36 PM (mmHDH)
Posted by: avi at January 26, 2012 05:36 PM (iSFyV)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro,VT at January 26, 2012 05:36 PM (Te1S8)
You may find this hard to believe, that I became more conservative while I was governor of Mass.
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Yep, I find it hard to believe
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I believe it. Governing a state full of crazy ass libs would turn any sane person into a hard core conservative.
Posted by: Peregrine Took, Hobbit S.O.B. at January 26, 2012 05:37 PM (yehN5)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 05:38 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 26, 2012 05:38 PM (X3vSL)
Posted by: Helpful Pundit at January 26, 2012 05:38 PM (Knez9)
Posted by: Peregrine Took, Hobbit S.O.B. at January 26, 2012 05:38 PM (yehN5)
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Yah, yah. Dats ze ticket!
Posted by: Ahnold Schwarzenegger at January 26, 2012 05:39 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: avi at January 26, 2012 05:39 PM (iSFyV)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2012 05:39 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: chunky at January 26, 2012 05:39 PM (PGcZh)
Posted by: dope on a rope at January 26, 2012 05:39 PM (+kznc)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 05:41 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: wierd flunky at January 26, 2012 09:35 PM (tlhtD)
You are right to be worried about the country. But what these guys or anyone says about it doesn't mean a damn thing. This isn't about issues, and that's just as well. You might remember that politicans can sometimes say all the right things, it's the doing of those things that matters.
Which guy will actually take action? Which guy will raise the spirits of the nation? Which guy will surround himself with the best advisors, because no one man can and properly study and understand all the issues facing us.
That's what you are looking for during a campaign. And it's almost always a wild ass guess.
Posted by: Meremortal at January 26, 2012 05:41 PM (nmNNk)
Posted by: Willy at January 26, 2012 05:41 PM (/M/rE)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2012 05:42 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: TheThinMan at January 26, 2012 05:42 PM (/2ODN)
Posted by: Justamom at January 26, 2012 05:43 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: chunky at January 26, 2012 05:44 PM (PGcZh)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 05:44 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2012 09:27 PM (Gc/Qi)
Sorry, mister, your not dragging me down with you.
Posted by: Doofus at January 26, 2012 05:45 PM (xKC/c)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 26, 2012 05:45 PM (lAd9N)
Posted by: TheThinMan at January 26, 2012 05:46 PM (/2ODN)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2012 05:46 PM (GZitp)
I'm late to the party and all my info came from scanning this blog. Let me see if I am up on the happenings....Someone let Santorum out of his locker and now he is on a roll. Topic of wife swapping came up and Paul wants to take one of Newt's ex's to Cuba on a bridge he is going to build. Mitt can't decide between Newt's 2nd or current and Newt doesn't care who's wife he takes to the moon.
Whoever the next first lady is needs to one up the current and grow a garden that not only produces lead but requires a hazmat suite to enter. Topless.
Got it. Will continue to check in for updates
Posted by: No Sniveling at January 26, 2012 05:47 PM (5Wy9V)
9 of 10 Puerto Ricans who apply for social security disability are given it.
That's what I call low class, not second class.
Posted by: Justamom at January 26, 2012 09:43 PM (Sptt
Hey, you can get injured holding up all the arches around here by leaning on them!
Posted by: Raul, Puerto Rico at January 26, 2012 05:47 PM (nmNNk)
Posted by: waelse1 at January 26, 2012 05:48 PM (1M81x)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 26, 2012 05:48 PM (X3vSL)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2012 05:48 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: ArcadeHero at January 26, 2012 05:49 PM (mmHDH)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 05:49 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2012 05:50 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: tasker at January 26, 2012 05:50 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 05:50 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: ArcadeHero at January 26, 2012 05:50 PM (mmHDH)
Posted by: tasker at January 26, 2012 05:51 PM (r2PLg)
Nuke em.
Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at January 26, 2012 09:40 PM (qjUnn)
My scenario: At the same time that Netanyahu addresses the U.N., the IDF pounds the West Bank and Gaza Strip with bombs and artillery until nothing moves.
At that point, Bibi formally announces Israel's nuclear capabilities and warns the muslim world that if a single Jew anywhere in the world is harmed in retaliation, Mecca will become a sea of glass.
Posted by: ErikW at January 26, 2012 05:51 PM (m7JTK)
Posted by: Doofus at January 26, 2012 05:51 PM (xKC/c)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 26, 2012 05:51 PM (X3vSL)
Posted by: Rick, Michele, Jon, jainitorial engineers at January 26, 2012 05:51 PM (nmNNk)
Santorum is right about faith and the founding documents, it is a shame saying that makes him an "extremist" in this backwards down is up society we live in now. Thank you MSM and Hollywood.
Posted by: wierd flunky at January 26, 2012 05:52 PM (tlhtD)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2012 05:52 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at January 26, 2012 05:52 PM (Knez9)
The mining costs for materials that exist here aren't the point. Launching those materials is a whole different story. 2.4km/sec versus 11.2km/sec escape velocity is the key. From the moon you can launch larger, slower, and a lot cheaper than from earth.
The crust compositions are largely similar in terms of mineral content.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 26, 2012 05:52 PM (jhe07)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 26, 2012 09:48 PM (X3vSL)
I think any suit in his closet is older than me.
Posted by: ambrosia at January 26, 2012 05:53 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: avi at January 26, 2012 05:53 PM (iSFyV)
Posted by: Jimmah at January 26, 2012 05:53 PM (TMeYE)
Posted by: Racefan at January 26, 2012 05:54 PM (ETcED)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 05:54 PM (niZvt)
Romney has to be as out of touch and tone deaf as Obama is. He must have been hiding under a rock for the past couple of years.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 26, 2012 05:54 PM (jhe07)
Posted by: ArcadeHero at January 26, 2012 05:54 PM (mmHDH)
Ron Paul must've been pretty pleased when he found a suit at Goodwill that sort of fit him. $10 well spent.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 26, 2012 09:48 PM (X3vSL)
I think any suit in his closet is older than me.
Paul's suits usually look like he forgot to take out the coat hangar.
Posted by: Rick, Michele, Jon, jainitorial engineers at January 26, 2012 05:55 PM (nmNNk)
Posted by: avi at January 26, 2012 05:55 PM (iSFyV)
Posted by: chunky at January 26, 2012 05:55 PM (zWAHo)
Posted by: ambrosia at January 26, 2012 05:56 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: Wolf Seacrest at January 26, 2012 05:57 PM (mmHDH)
Posted by: snowcrash at January 26, 2012 05:57 PM (w3YD7)
Posted by: Mr Republican at January 26, 2012 05:57 PM (+kznc)
Posted by: TheThinMan at January 26, 2012 05:57 PM (/2ODN)
Posted by: snowcrash at January 26, 2012 09:57 PM (w3YD7)
You just made his programmers very happy.
Posted by: Doofus at January 26, 2012 05:58 PM (xKC/c)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 05:59 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: waelse1 at January 26, 2012 05:59 PM (1M81x)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 26, 2012 06:00 PM (X3vSL)
Here's what is different tonight from reading your comments and not watching the TV:
Santorum seems more in the mix than usual and doing better than usual.
Less about Paul being totally a lunatic screaming Bawk Bawk!
Newt not getting any style points. Sounds like Newt's worst performance by far.
Almost no mention of Obama!
Posted by: Rick, Michele, Jon, jainitorial engineers at January 26, 2012 06:00 PM (nmNNk)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 06:00 PM (niZvt)
Romney has to be as out of touch and tone deaf as Obama is. He must have been hiding under a rock for the past couple of years.
Oh for Christ sake, it was directed at Santorum who was starting to freak out at that moment.
Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2012 06:00 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: robtr at January 26, 2012 06:01 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: Mitt 9000 design team at January 26, 2012 06:01 PM (pn8u0)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 26, 2012 06:02 PM (X3vSL)
Newt was slapped around like a hockey puck tonight.
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 10:00 PM (niZvt)
Dead on analysis.
Posted by: S Daniel at January 26, 2012 06:03 PM (fM4AU)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 06:03 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: steevy at January 26, 2012 06:03 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: David Gergle at January 26, 2012 06:03 PM (+kznc)
Posted by: tasker at January 26, 2012 06:04 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Palerider at January 26, 2012 06:04 PM (dkExz)
Posted by: M80B at January 26, 2012 06:04 PM (d6QMz)
Posted by: Willy at January 26, 2012 10:00 PM (/M/rE)
The lack of attacks on Obama tells me Wolf took one for the team, and did his job well. Not the job we envisioned, but....his handlers must be happy.
Posted by: Meremortal at January 26, 2012 06:04 PM (nmNNk)
Posted by: Arcadehero at January 26, 2012 06:04 PM (mmHDH)
Posted by: wierd flunky at January 26, 2012 06:05 PM (tlhtD)
Posted by: Mitt 9000 design team at January 26, 2012 06:05 PM (pn8u0)
Posted by: ambrosia at January 26, 2012 06:05 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: tasker at January 26, 2012 06:05 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Justamom at January 26, 2012 06:05 PM (iiJbl)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2012 06:06 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2012 06:06 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Mr Republican at January 26, 2012 06:07 PM (+kznc)
Posted by: Helpful Pundit at January 26, 2012 06:07 PM (Knez9)
I don't think that he meant health care wasn't worth getting mad about but that the Massachusettes statistics differential argument wasn't worth getting mad about.
Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2012 06:07 PM (w+PM8)
Posted by: tasker at January 26, 2012 06:07 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2012 06:08 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2012 10:06 PM (UOM4
You can say that again. Oh, wait -- I just did.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 26, 2012 06:08 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: steevy at January 26, 2012 06:09 PM (7W3wI)
Romney can't admit his R-care was a disaster. His entire campaign is based upon pushing this idea: I know what the fuck I'm doing, business-wise etc.
He doesn't have the ability to pull off admitting R-care sucks and still claim credibility.
Posted by: Meremortal at January 26, 2012 06:09 PM (nmNNk)
Posted by: Palerider at January 26, 2012 06:09 PM (dkExz)
********
I actually think Santorum did better with the space debate section, and when talking about his wife...
I hate to admit how much that part got to me...
********
Those were excellent as well.
Posted by: M80B at January 26, 2012 06:10 PM (d6QMz)
Posted by: Delta Smelt at January 26, 2012 06:11 PM (8MCmv)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 26, 2012 06:11 PM (jhe07)
Posted by: eman at January 26, 2012 06:12 PM (pn8u0)
Yes he did, you're watching the debate as a political junkie. What people saw was Rick turning beat red with veins bulging while trying to keep his voice level. Romney wasn't the one that came off badly, to most people it was Rick.
Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2012 06:12 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: tasker at January 26, 2012 06:12 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: steevy at January 26, 2012 06:13 PM (7W3wI)
Santorum started busting caps into his opponents, politically speaking.
Posted by: S Daniel at January 26, 2012 06:14 PM (fM4AU)
Posted by: tasker at January 26, 2012 06:14 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2012 06:15 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: eman at January 26, 2012 10:12 PM (pn8u0)
That isn't true, nice try though. Romney got a waiver from the feds to use Medicare Money to pay for the premium support in Romneycare instead of paying for Medicare which they wouldn't need anymore.
The feds no more subsidize it than they subsidize any states dealing with the uninsured.
Posted by: robtr at January 26, 2012 06:15 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: Okie Tea Partierer at January 26, 2012 06:16 PM (eKBGO)
Space is what, 1% of the budget? But if you don't rule space, you are dead.
And I'm talking militarily. Period. The End. Through.
Posted by: Meremortal at January 26, 2012 06:16 PM (nmNNk)
Posted by: tasker at January 26, 2012 06:18 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: bill lumbergh at January 26, 2012 06:19 PM (i7mEE)
Posted by: ambrosia at January 26, 2012 06:19 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2012 06:20 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: phxjay at January 26, 2012 06:22 PM (7AzcL)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2012 06:24 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: eman at January 26, 2012 06:25 PM (pn8u0)
Posted by: tasker at January 26, 2012 06:26 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Palerider at January 26, 2012 06:26 PM (dkExz)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2012 06:28 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: ambrosia at January 26, 2012 06:28 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: eman at January 26, 2012 10:25 PM (pn8u0)
No I am saying all 57 states are mandated by the federal government to provide medicare. All of them. They still get the same amount of funding from the federal government that they did before Romneycare. They used it to help fund the premium support like I said.
Are you saying they should have been the only state in the union to refuse medicare funding? That money comes from the states then it is sent back to the states.
Posted by: robtr at January 26, 2012 06:29 PM (MtwBb)
There's something to be said about not giving a fuck anymore.
I'm glad y'all are still fighting, it just makes it easier for me to go ABO!
I appreciate that you're all tearing each other apart over minor shit and on behalf of Conservatives everywhere who have better shit to do, we thank you!
Posted by: ErikW at January 26, 2012 06:31 PM (m7JTK)
Posted by: ambrosia at January 26, 2012 06:32 PM (oZfic)
And I'm talking militarily. Period. The End. Through.
Posted by: Meremortal at January 26, 2012 10:16 PM (nmNNk)
Well said, except that the entire NASA budget is less than 1/2 of 1% of the overall budget.
Posted by: TH at January 26, 2012 06:32 PM (RwInT)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2012 06:33 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2012 06:34 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: eman at January 26, 2012 06:35 PM (pn8u0)
Posted by: tasker at January 26, 2012 06:35 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: ambrosia at January 26, 2012 06:38 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2012 06:38 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: eman at January 26, 2012 06:39 PM (pn8u0)
Posted by: ambrosia at January 26, 2012 10:38 PM (oZfic
Right it will be the mittbots and drudge manipulating the poll and not your shit head ron paul loving friends.
Posted by: buzzion at January 26, 2012 06:42 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: CNNN at January 26, 2012 06:42 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: tasker at January 26, 2012 06:42 PM (r2PLg)
Yeah I meant medicaid. I get the two confused. Whatever.
The point about Romney care was that it is a state program that the overwhelming majority of the state still likes. I don't care about it. I don't live there and I don't have any plans to.
You are either for states rights or you are not. In all of Santorums sniveling about Romneycare what is his plan to change it? Is he going to tell MA that they can't do that anymore? Do we want the feds to tell states what they can and can't do now?
The Romney haters here are welcome to their opinion but when they want to decide what MA does when they live in another state I don't recognize them as conservatives.
Of course I didn't recognize the Newtsters as conservatives when they started attacking Bain Capital and legal Swiss Bank accounts. That's stuff the progressives are against.
Posted by: robtr at January 26, 2012 06:44 PM (MtwBb)
Sure, but what does that have to do with the election? Most people won't be looking at some entitlement that isn't even enacted yet as causing the economy to flounder. It'll be about Obama's ineffectiveness at addressing our economic and unemployment problems. That will be the central issue.
Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2012 06:47 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: ambrosia at January 26, 2012 06:47 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: CNNN at January 26, 2012 06:49 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: buzzion at January 26, 2012 10:42 PM (GULKT)
My friends are looking at ron paul which I think is amazing since they voted for the most part for BO and now they aren't sure. So they are watching the debates because of ron paul and being educated. So maybe just maybe they might decide the republicans aren't as crazy as they thought and if ron paul is the catalyst for the so what?
Posted by: ambrosia at January 26, 2012 06:50 PM (oZfic)
They just played Romneys don't get any statement. It was about Romneycare, not Obamacare.
Santorum the Santimonious from Pennsylvainia was bitching about health care in Massachussetts.
Posted by: robtr at January 26, 2012 06:51 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: robtr at January 26, 2012 06:52 PM (MtwBb)
You are either for states rights or you are not. In all of Santorums sniveling about Romneycare what is his plan to change it? Is he going to tell MA that they can't do that anymore? Do we want the feds to tell states what they can and can't do now?
The Romney haters here are welcome to their opinion but when they want to decide what MA does when they live in another state I don't recognize them as conservatives.
Here's the thing robtr. I don't care about what MA does in its borders really. They want socialized government run healthcare, they are welcome to it. However if someone helped implement it and still supports it and speaks positively of it, that is not a good starting point for me to support them for the nominee. In other words, Massachusetts can keep its healthcare. They can keep Romney too.
Posted by: buzzion at January 26, 2012 06:53 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: ambrosia at January 26, 2012 06:53 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: ambrosia at January 26, 2012 10:50 PM (oZfic)
Like I've said. You make Joe Biden sound intelligent.
Posted by: buzzion at January 26, 2012 06:54 PM (GULKT)
Like I've said. You make Joe Biden sound intelligent.
Posted by: buzzion at January 26, 2012 10:54 PM (GULKT)
I feel so sorry for you.
Posted by: ambrosia at January 26, 2012 06:56 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2012 06:56 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: eman at January 26, 2012 06:56 PM (pn8u0)
Here's the thing buzzion, fine that's why you get to vote.
So you can pick Newt who gets his talking points from think progress and has been for the inididual mandate for 20 fucking years or Santorum or Paul. Knock yourself out and good luck to you.
Posted by: robtr at January 26, 2012 06:58 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2012 10:56 PM (GZitp)
I didn't say anything of the sort. Put on your reading glasses. I think mitt romney is weak and looks weak. And if you look at the motley crew lining up to support him, it makes you want to run away. I have said it before. Under no circumstances will I vote for mittens and I'm not alone. A lot of my friends feel that way. I will vote every place but president. I'm not a hypocrite enough to vote for someone I believe would not be good for this country at this time.
Posted by: ambrosia at January 26, 2012 07:00 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2012 07:00 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: M80B at January 26, 2012 07:01 PM (d6QMz)
eman,
That's fine, if you think he is lying then vote for someone else. Vote for Newt, I am sure you beleive his 20 year conversion on the individual mandate. I mean Newt has never been know to lie or pander about anything.
Santorum is polling at about 10% but hey that could change. Of course Santorum voted against right to work and for Medicare Part D. But hey we can overlook that can't we?
You do know that Medicare part D is a national program that has put us another $500 Billion in debt so far but what the hell. Romneycare!!!!
Posted by: robtr at January 26, 2012 07:03 PM (MtwBb)
So you can pick Newt who gets his talking points from think progress and has been for the inididual mandate for 20 fucking years or Santorum or Paul. Knock yourself out and good luck to you.
Posted by: robtr at January 26, 2012 10:58 PM (MtwBb)
Wrong. I can choose to vote for none of them in the Primary. I can protest vote in that just like I did in 2008 where I did not vote for any candidate still in the race.
Posted by: buzzion at January 26, 2012 07:03 PM (GULKT)
She's alright. I honestly don't understand why she bugs so many of you... and no, I'm not asking for an explanation, just putting it out there.
You may not want an explanation but here it is anyways. Paraphrased but accurate.
"If you don't agree with New York on not allowing the viewing of Osama Bin Laden Post mortem you are a selfish bitch"
"Only New Yorkers suffered on 9/11 and still remember it. The rest of the country has forgotten"
Posted by: buzzion at January 26, 2012 07:06 PM (GULKT)
Buzzion,
Absolutely, only about 60% of us bother to vote anyways and that may be high. I am going from memory. You absolutely have the right to not participate.
Posted by: robtr at January 26, 2012 07:08 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: packsoldier at January 26, 2012 07:08 PM (1eHSY)
"Only New Yorkers suffered on 9/11 and still remember it. The rest of the country has forgotten"
Posted by: buzzion at January 26, 2012 11:06 PM (GULKT)
I don't know where you got that first one. I'm sure it was someone else pretending to be me.
A lot of NYer's feel that people have forgotten 9/11. We don't hold it against the rest of the country. It is what it is. I never said only NYer's suffered. You and your twisted logic interpreted it that way.
Posted by: ambrosia at January 26, 2012 07:09 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: eman at January 26, 2012 07:09 PM (pn8u0)
Posted by: buzzion at January 26, 2012 07:10 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: buzzion at January 26, 2012 07:12 PM (GULKT)
eman,
Like I said, that's fine. I don't agree with you since Newt has been spouting liberal talking points for the last month but if you're good with that go for it.
Posted by: robtr at January 26, 2012 07:14 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: tasker at January 26, 2012 07:14 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: eman at January 26, 2012 07:17 PM (pn8u0)
Posted by: Mitt Drudge at January 26, 2012 07:21 PM (3NGQu)
eman,
You said Newt was the most conservative. I disagreed and gave you the reason why. I didn't bring up Newt, you did.
Posted by: robtr at January 26, 2012 07:21 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: eman at January 26, 2012 07:26 PM (pn8u0)
*****
In fairness, Santorum was not alone in being overly optimistic about Medicare Part D. A number of conservative lawmakers voted for it because they (1) liked the competition aspect, (2) believed it would cause HSAs to become more popular, and (3) wanted to pass it rather than the more expensive bill. That does not necessarily make it right but it does reflect the thinking at the time.
Posted by: M80B at January 26, 2012 07:26 PM (d6QMz)
I willl never give Santorum a first look. We win on the economy jobs angle, we lose if we go all culture warrior.
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I didn't see the debate, just the clips on hotair but I agree - however, I got to say, even though the guy sounds really erally really atrocious to me when he gets on the social issues and the role of government, when he talks economy he is pretty damn good at it.
Posted by: Entropy, Racism Delenda Est at January 26, 2012 07:35 PM (Ci0JG)
eman,
It was a beautiful day after the 4 hours of rain in the morning, thanks.
Miss80's baby, I know a bunch of repubs voted for part D. I was screaming at the TV when Bush first brought it up. I consoled myself by saying well maybe he is doing this to win re election that I thought was important.
I sold out as much as they did. That didn't make it right. It put us all $500 Billion (to date) more in debt. I wasn't a US Senator then though.
But don't piss down my leg and tell it's raining by saying Santorum is some kind of small government guy on healthcare. He's not.
Posted by: robtr at January 26, 2012 07:36 PM (MtwBb)
So much for all the "electability" bullshit.
Posted by: K~Bob at January 26, 2012 07:37 PM (/kpEY)
In fairness, Santorum was not alone in being overly optimistic about
Medicare Part D.
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In reality, neither of the other two goobers would have opposed it.
Posted by: Entropy, Racism Delenda Est at January 26, 2012 07:37 PM (Ci0JG)
Posted by: M80B at January 26, 2012 07:39 PM (d6QMz)
M8oB,
My point is that Santorum was the only guy on that stage that voted for increasing Federal Government Expansion of Entitlements. The only one. Nobody else there did.
Posted by: robtr at January 26, 2012 07:42 PM (MtwBb)
Everyone is talking about this, they have the quote and the clip.
"“Think about what that means going up against Barack Obama, who you are going to claim, ‘well, it doesn’t work and we should repeal,’” Santorum said, addressing the audience. “He’s going to say, ‘Wait a minute, Governor. You said it works well in Massachusetts.’ Folks — we can’t give this issue away in this election. It is about fundamental freedom.”
Posted by: ambrosia at January 26, 2012 07:43 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at January 26, 2012 07:55 PM (zakY8)
My point is that Santorum was the only guy on that stage that voted for increasing Federal Government Expansion of Entitlements. The only one. Nobody else there did.
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Newt advocated for passage of the bill and I suspect Romney probably would have voted for it had he been in Congress.
Posted by: M80B at January 26, 2012 07:57 PM (d6QMz)
Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at January 26, 2012 08:03 PM (zakY8)
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at January 26, 2012 08:18 PM (Y5I9o)
Posted by: tasker at January 26, 2012 08:32 PM (r2PLg)
I felt a little bit sorry for Newt. But mostly for myself. And America.
BTW, Newt is right about space, not that it matters much.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at January 26, 2012 08:36 PM (baC5d)
BTW, Newt is right about space, not that it matters much.
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I am not voting for Newt, and I'm not his biggest fan, but seeing him in person....from about 1 feet away... he looks, walks, acts like a tired little old man.
On the other hand, Santorum is much more handsome in person than is shown on t.v..
Posted by: The kids from South Park at January 26, 2012 08:38 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: tasker at January 26, 2012 08:47 PM (r2PLg)
bastages.
*****
Awww. Thanks.
CNN called me three times over the past couple of days to tell me that my question had made it past the various stags of selection, but I arrived tonight and still didn't know I would be speaking. However, I suspected I might because I was seated in the fourth row (the first row was media) and there were state party members and legislators seated around and behind me. They came to me about 2 minutes before they went live to say I would be kicking it off.
Huh? What?!!!
Posted by: The kids from South Park at January 26, 2012 08:52 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: tasker at January 26, 2012 09:02 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: tasker at January 26, 2012 09:04 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Gangsta Mittens at January 26, 2012 10:40 PM (8HhF2)
I think it is amusing that Newt's fans are saying he is "right about space". Really? How many of us Conservatives (or anyone else for that matter) were clamoring for a colony on the moon sufficient in size to apply for statehood until Newt just spewed that out the other day? Oh, that's right, nobody was. It is a mindless pander to the Florida audience and you all should know better.
That isn't to say that NASA doesn't need a new mission. However, Mitt was right to point out that we have urgent matters here on earth that need attending to, not the least of which is our enormous debt problem. Spending a trillion dollars on a moon colony hardly makes sense at this point.
Posted by: Ken Royall at January 27, 2012 12:48 AM (9zzk+)
Ken Royall,
I was clamoring for it. I'm not a Newt supporter, but I defend him on space because he's right on space.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at January 27, 2012 09:22 AM (epBek)
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