January 23, 2012

Liveblogging the NBC Tampa Debate
— andy

9pm Eastern on NBC. The GOP thought we still had Monday Night Football going on, but they're so inept that even the attempt at boneheaded counter-programming failed.

Here's an exclusive preview of the frontrunners' opening statements:

Standard reminder: Your comments do not automatically display. So don't ask "Why aren't my comments displaying?" They don't display.

They're not posted comments a la chat room. Instead they go to queue, which the producers (cobloggers) read, and we post them, by hand, if we think they make a good point.

Liveblog thingy below the fold.

Posted by: andy at 04:50 PM | Comments (472)
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1 anyone got a link for a livestream?

Posted by: supercore23 at January 23, 2012 04:51 PM (ZUFNn)

2 First again, I'm honored.

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 04:52 PM (rv9tS)

3 Bob Saget has no comment.

Posted by: Bob Saget's other computer is banned 99.129.23.42 at January 23, 2012 04:52 PM (dBvlk)

4 Shit

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 04:52 PM (rv9tS)

5 Nevermind. I missed the link at the top. Carry on.

Posted by: supercore23 at January 23, 2012 04:53 PM (ZUFNn)

6 I promise I'll watch the next eighty-two debates, but not this one.

Posted by: t-bird at January 23, 2012 04:54 PM (FcR7P)

7 Okay, can anybody tell me why we've switched from SCOAMF to SCOAMT?

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 04:54 PM (rv9tS)

8 I try to do all the legwork for you guys and include a link to the livestream. *Storms off in a huff*

Posted by: Andy at January 23, 2012 04:55 PM (XG+Mn)

9 I think T is for Tyrant.

Posted by: osoloco at January 23, 2012 04:56 PM (FRZGg)

10 Ah, I see we're still in make your own paragraph breaks mode.

Fun.

Posted by: Andy at January 23, 2012 04:56 PM (XG+Mn)

11 Okay, can anybody tell me why we've switched from SCOAMF to SCOAMT? Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 08:54 PM (rv9tS) "Recess" appointments.

Posted by: eman at January 23, 2012 04:56 PM (g08ab)

12 Willard for the win.  eeerrrr..   push,,,  errr,  loss... ???

Posted by: TheGarbone at January 23, 2012 04:57 PM (O3f8/)

13 West Coasties-supposedly you can watch live at nbcpolitics.com

Posted by: tasker at January 23, 2012 04:57 PM (r2PLg)

14 Thank you, I wasn't sure why he went from a failure to a tyrant.

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 04:58 PM (rv9tS)

15 I detest media controlled debates.  I'm watching Batman instead.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at January 23, 2012 04:59 PM (bMLFV)

16 I get rejected for posting a link to youtube. Ok

Posted by: ck at January 23, 2012 04:59 PM (Ngvd5)

17 Anything short of defenstration1 tonight is a loss.

1. Defenestration is the act of throwing someone or something out of a window.

In a sentence:

If I was a South Carolina voter I would be fixin' to have a defenstration party for that Coulter bitch.

Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at January 23, 2012 05:00 PM (zgwWv)

18 Standard disclaimer.  He who figuratively beats the shit outta Opie wins.  Points deducted for sniping at each other.

Posted by: dogfish at January 23, 2012 05:00 PM (N2yhW)

19 Big Romney Big Romney Big Romney NO WHAMMIES, NO WHAMMIES!

Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 23, 2012 05:01 PM (h6mPj)

20 So will Brian Williams retire to sob in a corner after questioning Newt?

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 05:01 PM (rv9tS)

21 Gawd, it already sounds like the Miss America pageant.

Posted by: Laura Castellano at January 23, 2012 05:03 PM (fuw6p)

22 Did I just hear Newt say in a deep Vader-like voice   " Mitt, I am your father." ?

Posted by: builderdoug at January 23, 2012 05:03 PM (JkooC)

23 And here we go

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 05:03 PM (rv9tS)

24 Why are my comments not displaying, you fascists?!

Attica!

Attica!

Attica!

Posted by: TLDR at January 23, 2012 05:04 PM (5Odcb)

25 Gawd, is there anybody blogging tonight?

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 05:04 PM (rv9tS)

26

Welcome to the eighteenth debate of the Republican primary!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 23, 2012 05:04 PM (3wBRE)

27 Speaker Gingrich ... Will you characterize the sleaze you oozed as Speaker?

Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 23, 2012 05:04 PM (h6mPj)

28 here in San Diego - not on NBC, CNBC, nor MSNBC feeds. WTG GOP!

Posted by: Frank G at January 23, 2012 05:05 PM (cJqu0)

29 Williams is already slurping Mutt.  Tells you something.

Posted by: dogfish at January 23, 2012 05:05 PM (N2yhW)

30 I don't think it's fair to say he resigned in disgrace without some proof

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 23, 2012 05:06 PM (i6RpT)

31 Shut up Williams.

Posted by: Avi at January 23, 2012 05:06 PM (iSFyV)

32 Big Romney Big Romney Big Romney NO WHAMMIES

Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 23, 2012 05:06 PM (h6mPj)

33 Newt, I really don't want to talk about my record right now.

Posted by: robtr at January 23, 2012 05:07 PM (MtwBb)

34 Yea, but do the liberal left want Mittens because they think he will be an easy win or as a reverse psychology thing for the righties?

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 05:07 PM (rv9tS)

35 ..

Posted by: Y at January 23, 2012 05:07 PM (bq8AW)

36 Senator Santorum, Congressman Paul ... take a stool, we'll get to you in the second half.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 23, 2012 05:07 PM (h6mPj)

37 I resigned on her face lolol

Posted by: Newt Gingrich at January 23, 2012 05:08 PM (8HhF2)

38 Paul and Santorum are nice lamps tonight

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 23, 2012 05:08 PM (i6RpT)

39 Mitt just comes off as a condescending prick to me.

Posted by: Laura Castellano at January 23, 2012 05:08 PM (fuw6p)

40 -

Posted by: at January 23, 2012 05:08 PM (bq8AW)

41
The debate's in Tampa, and someone will jump the shark!

Posted by: Doctor Fish at January 23, 2012 05:09 PM (TkGkA)

42

Of those 84 ethics charges that were brought (by the democrats) 83 of them were dismissed for stupidity and the last one was left to be decided by the IRS which found him not guilty, he was fined $300,000 for shits and giggles because it cost money for the hearings. 

I wouldn't believe much of charges that were brought up by left wing morons to begin with and the 84th charge about paperwork and tax exemption issues was left to the IRS and was nothing.

Big whoop!

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 05:10 PM (rv9tS)

43 Let the others speak

Posted by: Avi at January 23, 2012 05:10 PM (iSFyV)

44 Seriously, Ron and Rick ... would you like some water?

Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 23, 2012 05:10 PM (h6mPj)

45 As I said on the other thread.  The dems are salivating as the republicans, by tearing one another apart and starting fights among themselves on national television during these debates, are giving the dems plenty of footage to run commercials.

Then the president can sit back, say it's not him saying this, it's their peers, their own party and he wouldn't bring it up, cause he's a nice guy, he won't behave like this, but, since they gave him the material he felt the American people should see it.

Newt did the right thing and romney wouldn't let him drop it.  You know people aren't going to like romney for that, he's picking a fight.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 05:11 PM (oZfic)

46 Nice Newt, good answer on the charges.

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 05:11 PM (rv9tS)

47 Jeez, are the going to spend the debate calling each other liars? Hello? They're both liars! They're politicians! Who's gonna take it to Obama?

Posted by: Laura Castellano at January 23, 2012 05:11 PM (fuw6p)

48 This one is a snoozer, but Mutt is coming across as a dick.  Not winning me over.

Posted by: dogfish at January 23, 2012 05:11 PM (N2yhW)

49
So Willard, Ru Paul, and Debbie Wassermanly Schultz walk into a leather bar...

Posted by: Doctor Fish at January 23, 2012 05:11 PM (TkGkA)

50

Gingrich: check my website. or call 1-800-Ross-Perot.

Posted by: whatever at January 23, 2012 05:11 PM (O7ksG)

51
If Gingrich does win [the nomination], veteran GOP strategists tell CNN to expect pressure on Senate Minority Leaders Mitch McConnell, House Speaker John Boehner and other Republican leaders to call key GOP donors and ask them not to contribute to Gingrich's campaign.




But remember kids, the idea of an entrenched Republican elite is silly.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 23, 2012 05:12 PM (3wBRE)

52 Senator Santorum .. >... h'uh? wha?

Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 23, 2012 05:12 PM (h6mPj)

53 Them other three guys have one state each.  They should let Luap Nor win Florida.

Posted by: Bob Saget's other computer is banned 99.129.23.42 at January 23, 2012 05:12 PM (dBvlk)

54 The debates are becoming boring. Cut taxes, cut regulations, increase defense, the poor are lazy, blah blah blah.

Posted by: Garbonzo at January 23, 2012 05:12 PM (MX5iy)

55 Stop just airing dirty Republican shit in public = go after obama and fuckin bury him. DON'T LET NBC DICTATE THE TONE

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 23, 2012 05:12 PM (i6RpT)

56 Looks like Brian Williams brought his vampire boyfriends.

Posted by: S Daniel at January 23, 2012 05:13 PM (fM4AU)

57 I am sorry, but, Romney is just too wooden and he has a desperate wild look in his eyes.  Newt is handing him his @ss.

Posted by: Will Not Assimilate For Food at January 23, 2012 05:13 PM (kXoT0)

58 Santorum has a hard time looking at the camera.

Posted by: Laura Castellano at January 23, 2012 05:13 PM (fuw6p)

59

Santorum could be Newt's Mrs. Right Now.

 

I read on Redstate earlier that a dream ticket could be Newt/Rice.

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 05:13 PM (rv9tS)

60 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 23, 2012 09:12 PM (3wBRE)

Do they actually think the American people wouldn't contribute.  5 bucks a million times adds up.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 05:13 PM (oZfic)

61 Santorum actually doing pretty good...

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 05:13 PM (niZvt)

62 All NBC is doing is trying to blacken each and every one of them--oh except they will probably try to make paul a hero when they get to him

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 23, 2012 05:14 PM (i6RpT)

63 #52 Laurie, did CNN give a source for this or something that was even within line of sight of a source?

Posted by: rabidfox at January 23, 2012 05:14 PM (S36VZ)

64 Rick looks nice and tan.  I think he got a facial scrub before going on camera.

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 05:14 PM (rv9tS)

65 Newt is lying about balanced budgets. In the four years he was speaker we borrowed $800  Billion dollars, some of that in each year he was speaker. The so called balanced budgets weren't balance and only two of those happened while he was speaker. The other two happened after he resigned. But let's not worry about facts.

Posted by: robtr at January 23, 2012 05:15 PM (MtwBb)

66 Ron Paul's podium faces Mecca ... heh.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 23, 2012 05:15 PM (h6mPj)

67 Paul's eyebrow is crooked again.

Posted by: Laura Castellano at January 23, 2012 05:15 PM (fuw6p)

68 Why would GOP strategists tell CNN anything of importance to anyone?

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 05:15 PM (rv9tS)

69 I refuse to watch any debate at on a hostile network.Which means all but Fox!

Posted by: steevy at January 23, 2012 05:16 PM (7W3wI)

70 Does Paul ALWAYS have to pop amphetamines before a debate?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 05:16 PM (niZvt)

71 Has Ron Paul ever been on his meds?

Posted by: S Daniel at January 23, 2012 05:16 PM (fM4AU)

72 Can you believe this dottering old fool used to be an OBGYN.  That'll make you hike your skirt up girls.  Geeez

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 05:16 PM (rv9tS)

73 SHUT THE FUCK UP PAUL

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 23, 2012 05:16 PM (X3vSL)

74 Romney, hands in pockets, looks defensive.

Posted by: Laura Castellano at January 23, 2012 05:17 PM (fuw6p)

75 Luap Nor looks says won't run as a 3rd party.

Posted by: dogfish at January 23, 2012 05:17 PM (N2yhW)

76
Ron Paul's best friend is Beldar Conehead.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at January 23, 2012 05:17 PM (TkGkA)

77 O/T,  I don 't know why this is funny, but it is.  John Kerry, parasailer, and Boston Brahmin, suffers fuck-uppage playing hockey with the Proles

http://tinyurl.com/7curc3p

Posted by: Ombudsman at January 23, 2012 05:17 PM (AxHOT)

78 Is Paul going to endorse Newt when he's finished?  Wow that would be huge

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 05:18 PM (rv9tS)

79
@64 That was the copy paste from CNN. The usual "sources say".


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 23, 2012 05:18 PM (3wBRE)

80 It looks like the other contestants are boxing mittens out.

It's too funny to watch. 

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 05:18 PM (oZfic)

81 Big Romney! NO WHAMMIES!

Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 23, 2012 05:18 PM (h6mPj)

82 Jobs of President

-pressure congress to send him bills
-sign bills
-parry/counter the media
-don't bow to foreign leaders

I guess I'm confused which part of this, people think Newt cant do.  Deuche and turd accurately described Bush vs Kerry if you weren't into war or social issues.

Newt and Mitt are both more conservative and more competent better then Obama and Bush.  (excepting only Bush's religious conservatism)

Posted by: Shiggz Newt Warp 9.9 at January 23, 2012 05:18 PM (RfvTE)

83 76 Romney, hands in pockets, looks defensive.

Has he checked his watch yet?

Posted by: S Daniel at January 23, 2012 05:18 PM (fM4AU)

84 Luap Nor looks to be about a quart low on embalming fluid.

Posted by: Will Not Assimilate For Food at January 23, 2012 05:18 PM (kXoT0)

85 Romney, hands in pockets, looks defensive.

Posted by: Laura Castellano at January 23, 2012 09:17 PM (fuw6p)

If he were Boehner, he'd be on the floor sobbing his eyes out in the fetal position.

Posted by: really ... at January 23, 2012 05:18 PM (X3lox)

86 Doesn't help that Mitt always has the creepy half smile. Dammit, man, get angry!

Posted by: Laura Castellano at January 23, 2012 05:19 PM (fuw6p)

87 Looks like Romney expected a shue-in and isn't flexible enough to adjust.

Posted by: rabidfox at January 23, 2012 05:19 PM (S36VZ)

88 The little Lord Fauntleroy collar isn't cutting it tonight.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 05:19 PM (oZfic)

89 Is this on cable?

Posted by: Cast Iron at January 23, 2012 05:20 PM (EL+OC)

90 "Can you believe this dottering old fool used to be an OBGYN?" He got his political ideology from prolonged discussions with the Secret Cervix.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 05:20 PM (niZvt)

91 It's like deja-vu all over again......and again...

Posted by: Yogi Can't-bear-it at January 23, 2012 05:20 PM (j+Izh)

92 Please, somebody tell Williams to do his job fairly, and ask Obama to release his records.

Posted by: S Daniel at January 23, 2012 05:20 PM (fM4AU)

93 Go, Rick, go! Just please keep the socialcon on the down low...

Posted by: Justamom at January 23, 2012 05:20 PM (Sptt8)

94 This site has turned into Free Republic.  Football season over and all the humor gone from Ace, et al ..... meh.

Posted by: Bobby Ahr at January 23, 2012 05:20 PM (f2ir3)

95 The debate doesn't come on until 8 MDST. That's weird. Now you won't get to see my brilliant comments concerning the debate. Suffer.

Posted by: Ronster at January 23, 2012 05:20 PM (JGYCE)

96

Coolczech...Dude that was awesome. 

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 05:21 PM (rv9tS)

97 Could be worse, but I don't know how.

Posted by: killerdog at January 23, 2012 05:21 PM (CZrbJ)

98 I am sick to death of this line of questioning.  I want to hear their positions on important things.  The Media are truely idiots and live in a bubble.  They have no idea what the average American wants to hear because they think we are stupid.  This is the level of awareness these asshats possess. 

Posted by: DailyDish at January 23, 2012 05:21 PM (Tl1mu)

99 97 The debate doesn't come on until 8 MDST. That's weird. Now you won't get to see my brilliant comments concerning the debate. Suffer.

It must be 9pm PST.
The NBC vid stream sucks ass too.

Posted by: Cast Iron at January 23, 2012 05:21 PM (EL+OC)

100 80 Laurie:  I wasn't dinging you just making a point about CNN.  Not that anyone here needs the point made.

Posted by: rabidfox at January 23, 2012 05:21 PM (S36VZ)

101 How could that be, that he'd have paid no taxes.  Did he forget that piddling three hundred grand plus just for talking?

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 05:22 PM (oZfic)

102 Holy crap, did Mitt just raise his hand for permission to speak?

Posted by: Laura Castellano at January 23, 2012 05:22 PM (fuw6p)

103 Tampa Bay cheerleaders?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 23, 2012 05:22 PM (e9Jfx)

104 Romney as attack dog is bad. I prefer the cardboard cutout Mutt.

Posted by: some dope at January 23, 2012 05:22 PM (+kznc)

105 @88- Yeah, if I was advising Romney, I'd get him in the boxing ring and start punching him till he showed emotion and punched back.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 23, 2012 05:23 PM (X3vSL)

106 Oooops, I think they are helping Mitt, surprise! Not!

Posted by: David Kramer at January 23, 2012 05:23 PM (OkW7e)

107
Is Santorum present?

Posted by: Doctor Fish at January 23, 2012 05:23 PM (TkGkA)

108 79 John Kerry, parasailer, and Boston Brahmin,

You misspelled "insecure dishonest social-climbing arrogant tool". But that's okay

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at January 23, 2012 05:23 PM (QQAJP)

109 I want a strong America, in America, for America, with America and on America. Thank you and America bless America.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at January 23, 2012 05:23 PM (8HhF2)

110 They have no idea what the average American wants to hear because they think we are stupid. This is the level of awareness these asshats possess. Posted by: DailyDish at January 23, 2012 09:21 PM

When you see the ratings that Jersey Shore and The Kardashians pull in, you do wonder ...

Posted by: kbdabear at January 23, 2012 05:23 PM (Y+DPZ)

111 Mitt isn't thinking.  Yeah he built things the old fashioned way but if any seed money came from a trust fund or dad the dems will eat him alive.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 05:24 PM (oZfic)

112
We need Crazy Eyes on that stage to beady-eye Williams.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at January 23, 2012 05:24 PM (TkGkA)

113 Newt's talking about "the hong kong" way? Oh fuck. This is why I don't trust him.

Posted by: whatever at January 23, 2012 05:24 PM (O7ksG)

114 @103- I believe he gave his speaking fees to charity. At least that's what I've heard.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 23, 2012 05:24 PM (X3vSL)

115 Senator Santorum, Romney called you a son a of a bitch........

Posted by: S Daniel at January 23, 2012 05:24 PM (fM4AU)

116 Romney has the most submissive, defensive body language on that stage.

Posted by: Laura Castellano at January 23, 2012 05:25 PM (fuw6p)

117 Good Q by Rick re bailouts

Posted by: some dope at January 23, 2012 05:25 PM (+kznc)

118 *sumbitch

Posted by: S Daniel at January 23, 2012 05:25 PM (fM4AU)

119 Romney:  zero cap gains tax for everyone!   I like it.

Posted by: jeanne! at January 23, 2012 05:25 PM (EFU87)

120 Rick Santorum: Some Men Just Want To Watch The World Burn. 2012

Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 23, 2012 05:25 PM (h6mPj)

121
Hong Kong is the greatest capitalist experiment in the east, and that model has spilled into mainland China on a limited basis.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at January 23, 2012 05:26 PM (TkGkA)

122 They had to have someone else explain romney to us pedestrians so they let Rick do it. 


Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 05:26 PM (oZfic)

123 Has Newt's pizza arrived yet?

Posted by: eman at January 23, 2012 05:26 PM (g08ab)

124 Bush used US citizen taxpayer money and US soldier sweat and blood to build schools in Afghanistan and to babysit Europe's Middle east and N.African trade routes, while they all hated and scorned us.  All while leaving our southern border open and trying pass Amnesty with Ted Kennedy.  Dont forget his refusing to stand up and challenge leftist lies in the media about everything from Bush regulators attempts to regulate fannie and freddy the WMD situation in middle east..... oh yea and all while creating the TSA.

Romney and Newt are both more conservative then Bush on those matters.  So you should definitely be happy to the have the most conservative party leader we have had since at least H.W. Bush and in many ways probably since Reagan.

Don't let the radical conservatives and leftist trolls trick you into thinking we are left with naught but choosing John Kerry vs Juan McCain here.

Posted by: Shiggz Newt Warp 9.9 at January 23, 2012 05:26 PM (RfvTE)

125 118 Romney has the most submissive, defensive body language on that stage.

please let this be over so I can lose to Obama and join a corporate board somewhere

Posted by: the voice in Mitt Romney's head at January 23, 2012 05:27 PM (QQAJP)

126 Hong Kong is gross. People there are selfish assholes and all sortsa shit gets dumped into Victoria harbour. Yeah - lets do that. right after will put to death all of those people with 2 ounces of marajuana.

Posted by: whatever at January 23, 2012 05:27 PM (O7ksG)

127 Ronnnn Paullll hatessss freeeddddoommmmm

Posted by: Garbonzo at January 23, 2012 05:27 PM (MX5iy)

128
>>O/T, I don 't know why this is funny, but it is. John Kerry, parasailer, and Boston Brahmin, suffers fuck-uppage playing hockey with the Proles..

Ha! That's facial surgery. What a douche'.


Posted by: sickinmass at January 23, 2012 05:28 PM (bcNec)

129 I guess the HTML's been banninated. Thanks, ASSHOLES! for trolling the site earlier.

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at January 23, 2012 05:28 PM (QQAJP)

130 Mitt Romney - Calling a Spade a Ho

Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 23, 2012 05:28 PM (h6mPj)

131 Newt: face it, they didn't pay you over a cool million because you were a great consultant.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 05:28 PM (niZvt)

132 Newt spanks like a boss.

Posted by: eman at January 23, 2012 05:29 PM (g08ab)

133 Mutt coming off attack dog again. yeesh

Posted by: some dope at January 23, 2012 05:29 PM (+kznc)

134 Letting NBC host the debate is like going on trial for punching a muslim and agreeing to change the venue to Dearborn Michigan

Posted by: kbdabear at January 23, 2012 05:29 PM (Y+DPZ)

135 "I have never, ever gone and done any lobbying."

BS!

Posted by: M80B at January 23, 2012 05:29 PM (d6QMz)

136 When Romney releases his tax returns I hope he gave lots of charitable donations.I'm sure he does.

Posted by: steevy at January 23, 2012 05:29 PM (7W3wI)

137 Why, oh why can't they ask about Iran, Israel, Middle East Policy.  Brian Williams is nothing more than a male version of Maureen Dowd.  UGH

Posted by: DailyDish at January 23, 2012 05:29 PM (Tl1mu)

138 'Entities Owned By You'

Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 23, 2012 05:30 PM (h6mPj)

139 Someone from mittens should text him to stop before he totally blows florida.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 05:30 PM (oZfic)

140 Oh man, they paid the money to Gingrich, Inc. but not Newt? Man, weak...

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 05:30 PM (niZvt)

141 135 Mutt coming off attack dog again. yeesh Pretty weak attack dog. He's practically asking permission to bite.

Posted by: Laura Castellano at January 23, 2012 05:30 PM (fuw6p)

142 Mitt and Newt are auditioning for a Sit-Com

Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 23, 2012 05:31 PM (h6mPj)

143 Newt is not having a good time...

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 05:31 PM (niZvt)

144 I thought it was the CNN debate that was supposed to just let them go at it.  Where's the 60 second buzzer you douchebag Williams?

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 05:31 PM (rv9tS)

145 that smirk has gotta go

Posted by: some dope at January 23, 2012 05:31 PM (+kznc)

146 Newt. Don't Fuck. With Me. _

Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 23, 2012 05:31 PM (h6mPj)

147 I didn't know Newt was for the drug giveaway.

Posted by: robtr at January 23, 2012 05:31 PM (MtwBb)

148 Rick Santorum was Butler High's Hall Monitor of the Year for 1975

Posted by: kbdabear at January 23, 2012 05:32 PM (Y+DPZ)

149 Bain! Bain! What is Bain?!

Posted by: eman at January 23, 2012 05:32 PM (g08ab)

150 I would just love it if Rick and Ron would speak up and say "hello we're here too"

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 05:32 PM (rv9tS)

151 Should I even watch this thing at 9pm?

Posted by: Cast Iron at January 23, 2012 05:33 PM (EL+OC)

152 Oh dear God, people are now finding every bit of "influence peddling" done on romney's behalf for bain.  Is he trying to open pandora's box?

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 05:33 PM (oZfic)

153 About time you fake tanned douchbag.

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 05:33 PM (rv9tS)

154 - Santorum and Paul Hanging Out On the Edges Not Having Their Say

Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 23, 2012 05:33 PM (h6mPj)

155 I'm out.  I don't think they have said Obama more than once each. F'em.

Posted by: dogfish at January 23, 2012 05:33 PM (N2yhW)

156 The Kitomer Accords must be renegotiated

Posted by: Ron Paul, Terran Ambassador at January 23, 2012 05:33 PM (Y+DPZ)

157 Rick S. needs to take a phone call now and then text some video to his homies.

Posted by: eman at January 23, 2012 05:33 PM (g08ab)

158 that haiku works better with formatting

Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 23, 2012 05:33 PM (h6mPj)

159 Mitt likes picking fights on paper and through advertising.. its how he was so successfull in business.

He had much to happy and healthy of a homelife to be any good at one on one in your face confrontation.  In fact its probably his biggest weakness.

Yes I am cringing at the thought of the prissy slapfight between Mitt and Obama.   You want to use a relevant south park clip grab that one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCgjQD1kvrc

Posted by: Shiggz Newt Warp 9.9 at January 23, 2012 05:33 PM (RfvTE)

160 Newt is really fumbling answering for his big government past.

Posted by: robtr at January 23, 2012 05:34 PM (MtwBb)

161 Lamest slapfight ever.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 23, 2012 05:34 PM (X3vSL)

162 @146: oh let them go at it. Let each take his best shot.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 05:35 PM (niZvt)

163

NBC's getting lottsa sound bites for their guy Obama tonight.

Posted by: whatever at January 23, 2012 05:35 PM (O7ksG)

164 Bain was a super villain who broke Batmans back!!

Posted by: steevy at January 23, 2012 05:35 PM (7W3wI)

165 1. Attack Medicare in Florida 2. ????? 3. Profit!

Posted by: Romney Survival Plan at January 23, 2012 05:35 PM (sOPIV)

166 Just tuned in.
Not turned on.
So, I got no choice but to drop out.

Posted by: sTevo at January 23, 2012 05:35 PM (VMcEw)

167 this is why we should get behind one candidate and get it over with quickly. You know - like the damn dems do. ugh.

Posted by: whatever at January 23, 2012 05:36 PM (O7ksG)

168 I don't like Mitt's campaign style.  I threw out Santorum after the last debate and between Mitt and Newt, starting leaning Mitt alittle.  Tonight I'm leaning away from Mitt.  I am finding him offensive and misleading tonight regarding Newt.

Posted by: DailyDish at January 23, 2012 05:36 PM (Tl1mu)

169
Romney is asked about his enormous wealth, estimated to be at least $190 million. "I will not apologize for being successful. I did not inherit what my wife and I have.





"Started out as the son of a poor auto company CEO - Governor - Cabinet Secretary. Sharecropping mostly, cotton and a half field of peanuts....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 23, 2012 05:36 PM (3wBRE)

170 The Romney smirk is the Mormon version of The Evil Eye.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 23, 2012 05:36 PM (X3vSL)

171

I'm kinda for Medicare Part D too, you do realize that it came in under budget after it was implemented.  What they've done since I couldn't attest too.

Most of expenses for older people are for medicines, I'd rather help them out with that then give them the obligatory $10 in food stamps.

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 05:36 PM (rv9tS)

172 I think Newt isn't fumbling so much as it isn't cut and dry and can't be covered in this format.  Not sticking up for Newt.  Not sure who I will support but both Newt and Romney are bringing up stuff they could do hour specials on.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 05:36 PM (oZfic)

173 Bad debate

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 23, 2012 05:36 PM (+1pC6)

174 I've watched Meeks, Barney Frank, and a few other democrats basically tell regulators that they should go STFU and the best attack we have right now on Gingrich is that he... along with pretty much every other republican not in government at the time... was paid to consult Freddie Mac.  yoy..  95% of the people watching this debate don't know what a GSE even is, keep the answer to the obvious DNC plant questions short and add Obama is a SCOAF

Posted by: RealityMan at January 23, 2012 05:37 PM (L2x1w)

175

This is the "two pigs fighting under a blanket" when Dolly Parton was commenting on another woman's butt.....

 

Posted by: punchinbobo at January 23, 2012 05:37 PM (rwryW)

176 Wow, that got awfully confusing for a moment, with a little bit of possible animosity, was that a planned situation?

Posted by: David Kramer at January 23, 2012 05:37 PM (OkW7e)

177 163 Newt is really fumbling answering for his big government past. Posted by: robtr at January 23, 2012 09:34 PM (MtwBb) He was obviously uncomfortable. This will cost him. Why did it take so long for Romney to say the obvious?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 05:37 PM (niZvt)

178

Romney says if Gingrich meets with members of Congress and advocates a position on legislation, that's influence peddling. Gingrich looks at Romney incredulously.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 23, 2012 05:37 PM (3wBRE)

179 I believe Medicare Part D introduced price competition - I'd have to go check, google it I guess.

Posted by: RealityMan at January 23, 2012 05:38 PM (L2x1w)

180 I have to say, Santorum does better with each debate.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 05:38 PM (niZvt)

181 I wouldnt attack Romney at all on Bain - I'd simply go after him for nearly every position he took before 2006. 

Posted by: RealityMan at January 23, 2012 05:39 PM (L2x1w)

182 I gotta be me.

Posted by: Capitalism at January 23, 2012 05:39 PM (2YIVk)

183 Jaimo, you are for an unpaid for government benefit that has increased the deficit $500 Billion since it went into place? Great.

Posted by: robtr at January 23, 2012 05:39 PM (MtwBb)

184 I have to agree, if I was not a political junky for the last three years, I would have no idea what the hell they were talking about. Even though I am a political junky, I am still about 50% confused on the implications of Medicare part D.

This is where political discussions need to be more like the Douglass Lincoln debates.

Posted by: David Kramer at January 23, 2012 05:39 PM (OkW7e)

185 Ron Paul pulls out a blurry photo of a Klingon Bird of Prey in Golden Gate Park. "Get a close up of this, Mr. Cameraman feller"

Posted by: eman at January 23, 2012 05:40 PM (g08ab)

186 What is that squealing sound coming out of my TV?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 05:40 PM (niZvt)

187 Yes it did, but then Congress fucked with it as usual.  After the first few years everybody was pretty happy with finding their own plan or doing the Medicare advantage thing.  I think part of it was that if you picked the prescription part you had to go private on the medical part too, and I guess Congress got scared and took that part out, of course that part was where all the savings were going to be.

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 05:41 PM (rv9tS)

188 Geez brian williams is cracking under the pressure.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 05:41 PM (oZfic)

189 Part B is not wholly responsible for $500 billion dollars.

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 05:41 PM (rv9tS)

190
Paul advocates wage and price controls, and argues debt has to be liquidated.



Yowza!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 23, 2012 05:41 PM (3wBRE)

191

The fact that Romney, as a successful businesman, has to defend himself to Newt really pisses me off.

Posted by: whatever at January 23, 2012 05:42 PM (O7ksG)

192 David Kramer, Part D is prescription drug assistance for medicare. It was passed under Bush and was not paid for. It has increased the deficit $500 Billion.

Posted by: robtr at January 23, 2012 05:42 PM (MtwBb)

193 I will attack my opponents for not making enough money.

Posted by: Shiggz Newt Warp 9.9 at January 23, 2012 05:42 PM (RfvTE)

194 The fact that romney keeps saying the same thing over and over, every debate and when newt opens his mouth you learn something new is what aggravates me.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 05:43 PM (oZfic)

195 The fact that Romney, as a successful businesman, has to defend himself to Newt really pisses me off.

Posted by: whatever at January 23, 2012 09:42 PM (O7ksG)

I'm not watching.  Is Newt pulling his anti-capitalist shit on Bain, again?

Posted by: really ... at January 23, 2012 05:43 PM (X3lox)

196 Medicare part D being under budget is like getting a discount on a Ferrari. It's still expensive even if you paid less than you expected.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 23, 2012 05:43 PM (X3vSL)

197 195 You think he won't have to do that against Obama? He'd better get used to it.

Posted by: Laura Castellano at January 23, 2012 05:43 PM (fuw6p)

198 Newt defending himself to the smarmy switch on how he made a living after his government run pisses me off.

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 05:43 PM (rv9tS)

199 Newt supported the multibillion dollar expansion of Medicare called Part D, for prescription coverage. Yet another nail in the fiscal coffin.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 05:44 PM (niZvt)

200 The requisite immigration question.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 05:45 PM (oZfic)

201 Newt, first attack on obama of the night and it's 45 minutes in.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 05:45 PM (oZfic)

202 Repeal Dodd-Frank. Finally- Newt you magnificent dried up troll.

Posted by: whatever at January 23, 2012 05:46 PM (O7ksG)

203 Paul.... *facepalm*

Posted by: Laura Castellano at January 23, 2012 05:46 PM (fuw6p)

204

David Kramer, isn't he that crazy screaming CNN money dude.  Yea, great reference.  Does that mean every money guy like say Paul Krugman's a f'n genius too?

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 05:46 PM (rv9tS)

205 Oh no, here we go... Paul to Mothership... Come in, Mothership...

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 05:46 PM (niZvt)

206 Ron Paul - Ron Paul ... wait, what?

Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 23, 2012 05:46 PM (h6mPj)

207 Paul: Castro is Americas fault.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 23, 2012 05:47 PM (X3vSL)

208 Ron Paul was a ball boy in the Revolutionary War.

Posted by: S Daniel at January 23, 2012 05:47 PM (fM4AU)

209
Let's go to Havana and party.  Rum & pussy for all!

-Ron Paul

Posted by: Doctor Fish at January 23, 2012 05:47 PM (TkGkA)

210 Laup Nor's for open trade with the People of ... Cuba? Iran? Florida?

Posted by: chunky at January 23, 2012 05:47 PM (8OOku)

211 Newt should put a giant tard into Paul's mouth. I can imagine it.

Posted by: Drezer at January 23, 2012 05:47 PM (sOPIV)

212 Ron Paul knows the real Castro is in a stasis tank in Area 51.

Posted by: eman at January 23, 2012 05:48 PM (g08ab)

213
@203

Passed the House 216 to 215, with 207 Republican votes.

Republican Inc. owns that one.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 23, 2012 05:48 PM (3wBRE)

214 Boy. Brian Willyboy is soooooo smaht.

Posted by: MrC_5150 at January 23, 2012 05:48 PM (UeuU/)

215 Romney shouldn't try to outdebate or outsmart Newt.  Romney should just try to seem presidential and find ways to stick it to Obama.

-Newt = conservatives are worried he is too exciting and too unpredictable
-Romney = we are worried he is a boring NE Rino pantywaste who will cower before the media.

No part of Romney's problems with the base are even now are related to Newt.  At most As a side effect Romney's failures have been Newts gain.

Whichever one eases conservative concerns about them the best wins.  Its both of theirs to lose if they refuse to reassure the base they are upto the job.

Posted by: Shiggz Newt Warp 9.9 at January 23, 2012 05:48 PM (RfvTE)

216 All I'm sayin' is that Medicare Part D would have had a better shot if Congress hadn't taken the requirement that if you wanted Part D you'd have to go private on the medical insurance part as well and that's where the savings was supposed to be.  It was supposed to be a competitive type thing, which when government is involved didn't happen, of course.

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 05:49 PM (rv9tS)

217 If Iran was able to shut down the strait of Hormuz .... >>>>

Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 23, 2012 05:49 PM (h6mPj)

218 Are those Romney's kids sitting behind Williams?

Posted by: Laura Castellano at January 23, 2012 05:49 PM (fuw6p)

219
Gingrich says he would put in a "very aggressive policy" of reaching out to Cubans who want to leave the dictatorship. He says he would use every asset including covert operations to minimize the survival of the Cuba dictatorship.

Paul says he's still got work to do on Gingrich when it comes to foreign policy, adding he'd do the exact opposite.




"Cuba, si! Castro, otra si!"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 23, 2012 05:49 PM (3wBRE)

220 Did he call romney, mr. president or was it "as the president" and his teeth aren't working.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 05:50 PM (oZfic)

221 I say we give these crazy Americans a wide berth.

Posted by: Marco Ramius at January 23, 2012 05:50 PM (Op/+v)

222 Jesus, Navy the smallest since 1917. Can you imagine what it will be like if Obama has 5 more years?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 05:51 PM (niZvt)

223 Newt looks kind of oldish tonight.  He really needs some face work and grecian formula for men before he takes the oath of office.

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 05:51 PM (rv9tS)

224 Newt now has a second mention of Barack Obama.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 05:51 PM (oZfic)

225 you don't have to go private for Medicare to get Part D. There are stand alone Part D plans.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 23, 2012 05:51 PM (h6mPj)

226 Paul is jerking off behind the podium waiting for the opportunity to defend Iran and bash America.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 23, 2012 05:51 PM (X3vSL)

227 Newt looks kind of oldish tonight. He really needs some face work and grecian formula for men before he takes the oath of office. Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 09:51 PM (rv9tS) He also needs a Stairmaster and a big bag of rice cakes.

Posted by: eman at January 23, 2012 05:52 PM (g08ab)

228

jaimo, all I am saying is that Medicare Part D wasn't paid for, on purpose. It increased the deficit. We borrow money now to supply people with their medicine. If you want to have yet another government benefit it would be nice if we paid for it.

Posted by: robtr at January 23, 2012 05:52 PM (MtwBb)

229
Romney is asked about what he would do if he gets a call that Cuba's Fidel Castro has died.




"Buy Cuban bonds on borrowed cash.  Use the leverage to take ownership of the country through a Cayman Island holding company."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 23, 2012 05:52 PM (3wBRE)

230 Finally Mittens mentioning BO.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 05:52 PM (oZfic)

231 I know, but the original intention was that they were to be linked and Congress took that part out thereby screwing with any savings that should have happened.

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 05:52 PM (rv9tS)

232 I have been saying that I will vote for the Republican nominee, but, nope, I can NOT do it if it is Mitt.  I am now officially disgusted with the smug, self-satisfied, self-righteous, nasty, twit-faced, and supercilious jerk.  

I live in OK, so it won't matter, our electoral votes will go to the Republican.

Posted by: Will Not Assimilate For Food at January 23, 2012 05:53 PM (kXoT0)

233 Ron Paul - equivocation for all!

Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 23, 2012 05:53 PM (h6mPj)

234 We're just like Iran? Ron Paul?

Posted by: S Daniel at January 23, 2012 05:53 PM (fM4AU)

235 228 "Newt looks kind of oldish tonight. He really needs some face work and grecian formula for men before he takes the oath of office." Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 09:51 PM (rv9tS). Losing weight would help, too. Oh and: STFO, Paul.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 05:53 PM (niZvt)

236 Robtr, absolutely I agree.  I'd be all for getting rid of some freeloaders on welfare to make sure the elderly are taken care of.

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 05:53 PM (rv9tS)

237 Newt sez- Nuke 'em. Mittens babbles. Luap Nor sez? War!? Hell yah. But maybe not.

Posted by: chunky at January 23, 2012 05:53 PM (8OOku)

238 I've never seen a dictatorship I didn't like. Buy hey, I'm the embodiment of Liberty according to my sycophants.

Posted by: Ron Paul at January 23, 2012 05:54 PM (sOPIV)

239 Ron Paul on the cocoa puffs again.

Posted by: MrC_5150 at January 23, 2012 05:54 PM (UeuU/)

240 And... there he goes. Sanctions against Iran are exactly the same as a blockade of the Gulf of Mexico.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 23, 2012 05:54 PM (X3vSL)

241 I think he's lost a little bit of weight.  He doesn't look as doughy as he has in the past.

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 05:54 PM (rv9tS)

242 Rearranging deck chairs. Why don't they talk about how the SCOAMT is taking us off the side of a cliff? Could it be they will just do the same at a speed we can get more pictures?

Posted by: Justamom at January 23, 2012 05:55 PM (Sptt8)

243 A draw tonight gives Florida to Newt.

Posted by: eman at January 23, 2012 05:55 PM (g08ab)

244
Paul says we've already committed an act of war by blockading in response to Tehran's threat to close the Strait of Hormuz.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 23, 2012 05:55 PM (3wBRE)

245 Finally colleagues.  What were  they doing until now?  We all know brian was taking a power nap with his eyes open.  Why weren't the colleagues out there with him to be the adults in the room during his power nap?

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 05:55 PM (oZfic)

246 Pictures!  I want some color ones that can be enlarged and framed.

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 05:56 PM (rv9tS)

247 So far Newt hasn't had a "magic" moment, like the gift King handed him. He looked flustered by Romney's attacks, like he knew they would leave a mark.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 05:56 PM (niZvt)

248 Yea, New didn't impress tonight, I'm a little worried.

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 05:57 PM (rv9tS)

249 The first candidate who proposes government subsidised golf carts and lowering the speed limit to 25mph will win Florida.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 23, 2012 05:57 PM (X3vSL)

250 Oh, we have visitors to the debate  How lovely.

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 05:58 PM (rv9tS)

251
@250

Fruity barber-pole tie on Santorum, if that's any help.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 23, 2012 05:58 PM (3wBRE)

252 Romney should promise free Depends to all Floridians.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 05:58 PM (niZvt)

253 251 So far Newt hasn't had a "magic" moment, like the gift King handed him. He looked flustered by Romney's attacks, like he knew they would leave a mark.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 09:56 PM (niZvt)

You really think he looked flustered.  I think he was a little shocked even though he knew to expect this and a little disappointed in mitt.  I think he'll explain it all, all over talk radio and mittens will look worse for it.  Who knows maybe they agreed not to do this kind of stuff and mittens crossed his fingers behind his back, we just don't know.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 05:59 PM (oZfic)

254 Those things are damn expensive.  Maybe we should cover them under Medicare Part D.  Just kidding

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 05:59 PM (rv9tS)

255 258 Those things are damn expensive. Maybe we should cover them under Medicare Part D. Just kidding

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 09:59 PM (rv9tS)

hey you can get a jazzie for free, that would make a decent golf cart.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 06:00 PM (oZfic)

256 The female moderator baffles me. I don't find her attractive, but still really want to bang her.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 23, 2012 06:00 PM (X3vSL)

257 Good answer on Iran by Santorum.

Posted by: Dalek at January 23, 2012 06:01 PM (sOPIV)

258 Well put on a fucking uniform Santorum and get your ass to war then. I did it, you can too.

Posted by: robtr at January 23, 2012 06:01 PM (MtwBb)

259 Newt defended himself, but both candidates see lackluster. I think it will come to ground troops and ads.

It's looking to be a draw here tonight

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 23, 2012 06:01 PM (+1pC6)

260 Ugh- they let her talk. Boner: denied.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 23, 2012 06:01 PM (X3vSL)

261 China drilling off Florida- Cuba! Drill!!!!!

Posted by: Justamom at January 23, 2012 06:02 PM (Sptt8)

262 We're all gonna die because of oil.

Posted by: S Daniel at January 23, 2012 06:02 PM (fM4AU)

263

Whover controls the convention should make sure Ron Paul gets a chance to address the hall.

 At around 10:00 am when nobody is watching TV.

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at January 23, 2012 06:02 PM (OT9g0)

264 I can't take it.

Posted by: MrC_5150 at January 23, 2012 06:02 PM (UeuU/)

265 I love me some cuties in uniform.  In fact any guy is a cutie when in uniform don't matter how old either.

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 06:02 PM (rv9tS)

266 So far, so good, Santorum.

Posted by: S Daniel at January 23, 2012 06:03 PM (fM4AU)

267 260 "The female moderator baffles me. I don't find her attractive, but still really want to bang her." Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 23, 2012 10:00 PM (X3vSL) Yes, doggystyle in the squeakhole, holding those curly bangs like reins. While she wears that outfit.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 06:03 PM (niZvt)

268 I would love it if one of the candidates would just say to that idiot Brian Williams: "what the hell kinda question is that?"

Posted by: whatever at January 23, 2012 06:03 PM (O7ksG)

269 Spaniph is a very important language. I loves me some Spaniph!

Posted by: Why the FUCK am I on live TV at January 23, 2012 06:03 PM (sOPIV)

270 Yea, Mitt, learning English in Ebonics worked out real well didn't it.

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 06:04 PM (rv9tS)

271 Hypocrite. I'm sure she prefers the clean energy that she plugs her car into.

Posted by: Justamom at January 23, 2012 06:05 PM (Sptt8)

272 Ingrish ownree. Phank woo.

Posted by: MrC_5150 at January 23, 2012 06:05 PM (UeuU/)

273 @269- I tried going out and picking up chicks in uniform, but my old 80's Hardees garb didn't get me any tail.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 23, 2012 06:05 PM (X3vSL)

274 "What about the Reptilian language, huuuuh?" - Ron Paul

Posted by: S Daniel at January 23, 2012 06:05 PM (fM4AU)

275 Mittens discovers teh Melting Pot!

Posted by: chunky at January 23, 2012 06:05 PM (DLLqZ)

276 How do you say, "Faster! Faster!" en Espanol?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 06:06 PM (niZvt)

277 CoolCzech, are you hitting the ValueRite tonight or what?  You're just crackin' me up.

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 06:06 PM (rv9tS)

278 holy cow, Thanks robtr for the info on part D

Posted by: David Kramer at January 23, 2012 06:06 PM (OkW7e)

279 Hardees uniforms were way hotter than McDonalds uniforms.

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 06:07 PM (rv9tS)

280 You gotta love the way the MSM always drags out the token Latino journalist.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 06:07 PM (niZvt)

281 277, heh the last time I put my uniform on was 1974. I don't think it would fit or be in style these days.

Posted by: robtr at January 23, 2012 06:07 PM (MtwBb)

282 will this be another 1000 or more thread? By the way, did NBC bring in zombies or what?

Posted by: David Kramer at January 23, 2012 06:07 PM (OkW7e)

283 Romney's a copycat!

Posted by: Justamom at January 23, 2012 06:07 PM (Sptt8)

284 Mitt: "Me too!"

Posted by: Laura Castellano at January 23, 2012 06:07 PM (fuw6p)

285 Mitt just slammed his dick in the drawer.

Posted by: eman at January 23, 2012 06:07 PM (g08ab)

286 I've got some assless chaps. That's kinda like a uniform no?

Posted by: Cast Iron at January 23, 2012 06:08 PM (EL+OC)

287

I love how republicans are expected to answer "Tell us how you would fight a war in 60 seconds" and "if you don't answer perfectly it will prove our beloved obozo is smarter than you. Plus, we won't be asking him the same qustion".

bah

Posted by: whatever at January 23, 2012 06:08 PM (O7ksG)

288 281 CoolCzech, areyou hitting the ValueRite tonight or what? You're just crackin' me up. Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 10:06 PM (rv9tS) It's been a long day.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 06:08 PM (niZvt)

289 You know what would scare the crap out of all of you?  If Obama grabbed a podium and started speaking his real thoughts outloud.

Maybe we conservatives can do like the left does and learn to let them lie like when Obama says he is against gay marriage and then does the wink nod and we all go on about our business.

Most Americans get antsy about big changes even if its thing they agree with.  Like a Comedian you can go right up to the line where they agree with you plus one more logical step and they will love you for it.  Take one more logical or necessary step and they will turn on you like a pack of dogs.

We all know America need revolution but it you must sell it one step at a time.  The left go lucky,  they had no interest in one step at a time but conservative resistance managed to slow them to one step at time e.g. the exact speed America was willing to tolerate leftist revolution.

To me the new Lefts successful revolution of America me is a close  blueprint for a reformation and rebirth of classical constitutional American freedom.

Or we could keep like we do, slow the left down just enough so America is fine with it, while talking a good game and giving immigration, abortion, gays etc.. plenty of soundbites but never getting around to doing anything about any of it.

Posted by: Shiggz Newt Warp 9.9 at January 23, 2012 06:09 PM (RfvTE)

290 I live in Fla.  I think I vote for Perry.  My best hope at this point is a brokered convention.  Yeah, we won't get a conservative but maybe we'll get a moderate who understands that the zeigheist of the time demands Government retrenchment.

Posted by: rabidfox at January 23, 2012 06:09 PM (S36VZ)

291 Mittens sez - illegal peeplz will evacuate their illegal home, return to their legal home, declare themselves illegal, and apply to return legally, to a place that they know they can get work.

Simple.

No babblez.

Posted by: chunky at January 23, 2012 06:09 PM (DLLqZ)

292 Like Santorum right this minute

Posted by: MrC_5150 at January 23, 2012 06:10 PM (UeuU/)

293 whatever
If the Romulans attack, explain in a succinct and intelligent way how you would respond.

Posted by: David Kramer at January 23, 2012 06:10 PM (OkW7e)

294 Rick S. can't believe he has gotten this far.

Posted by: eman at January 23, 2012 06:10 PM (g08ab)

295
Gingrich says he would work to get a "signable" version of the DREAM Act. He advocates that children of illegal immigrants who are prepared to join the military should be able to earn American citizenship. He doesn't support the part of the bill that says you can have a path to citizenship if you go to college.

Romney agrees.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 23, 2012 06:10 PM (3wBRE)

296

Gee Robtr, were you in Vietnam.   I have a BIL that was praying his number didn't get called.  It didn't and now he's an asshole liberal from New York.

I'll bet you'd look just fine in your dress uniform.  Thank you for your service.

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 06:10 PM (rv9tS)

297 What language is Santorum speaking? I hear him talk, but my brain refuses to acknowledge the meaning of the words.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 23, 2012 06:11 PM (X3vSL)

298 I say it every debate:

Obama refused to attend a debate hosted by the Fox.  It was then canceled.

Posted by: Shiggz Newt Warp 9.9 at January 23, 2012 06:11 PM (RfvTE)

299 Michael Savage wonders the same thing, Jumbo Jogger.

Posted by: MrC_5150 at January 23, 2012 06:11 PM (UeuU/)

300 298 Why do Republicans agree to any debate by the Obama network?

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at January 23, 2012 10:10 PM (qjUnn)

Because they are profoundly retarded?

Posted by: Cast Iron at January 23, 2012 06:11 PM (EL+OC)

301 Great. We can make our immigration policy as simple as our tax code. er wait.

Posted by: whatever at January 23, 2012 06:12 PM (O7ksG)

302 chunky
Exactly, yes, they will self deport because those Democrat enclaves that give state IDs or Driver's Licenses that give them what they need to get jobs, will all of a sudden quit doing that.

Yep, idiocracy is here to stay.

Posted by: David Kramer at January 23, 2012 06:12 PM (OkW7e)

303 298 Why do Republicans agree to any debate by the Obama network? Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at January 23, 2012 10:10 PM (qjUnn) Because they are profoundly retarded? Posted by: Cast Iron at January 23, 2012 10:11 PM (EL+OC) Because it reaches millions of people all at once. It sucks, but that is the way the world is.

Posted by: eman at January 23, 2012 06:13 PM (g08ab)

304 291 I love how republicans are expected to answer "Tell us how you would fight a war in 60 seconds" and"if you don't answer perfectly it will prove our beloved obozo is smarter than you. Plus, we won't be asking him the same qustion". bah

deserves repeating

Posted by: Shiggz Newt Warp 9.9 at January 23, 2012 06:13 PM (RfvTE)

305 Santorum deserves to be up there. 

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 06:14 PM (oZfic)

306
Romney advocates self deportation for illegal immigrants. "We're not going to round people up," he says. His plan calls for a transition period for illegal immigrants to stay in the country to work for a period of time and then apply for legal residency in the United Staes.




Any hope Mitt the Anchor Baby will self-deport his own self?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 23, 2012 06:14 PM (3wBRE)

307 jaimo, thanks. Yes from December of 70 to Jan. of 71.

Posted by: robtr at January 23, 2012 06:14 PM (MtwBb)

308 Paul looks like he needs one of his staff to wind up the giant key sticking out his back.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 06:15 PM (niZvt)

309 "Republicans agreeing to a debate moderated by liberals is like going to court for punching a muslim and changing the venue to Dearborn, Michigan." OK, lifted that.

Posted by: Justamom at January 23, 2012 06:15 PM (YmXd9)

310 So unfortunate about Paul.

I used to really like him when he was cracking jokes from the balcony on The Muppet Show.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 23, 2012 06:15 PM (X3vSL)

311 According to O'Reilly, Romney's family were American citizens and returned to the United States as citizens.  So Andrea Mitchell was lying as usual about Romney's ancestors.

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 06:15 PM (rv9tS)

312 Silent breaks online. Nice. No tampon or jock itch commercials to suffer through.

Posted by: MrC_5150 at January 23, 2012 06:16 PM (UeuU/)

313 @315: LOL!

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 06:16 PM (niZvt)

314 Mitt the anchor baby? Is being born to an American citizen in America an Anchor baby now? Who knew?

Posted by: robtr at January 23, 2012 06:17 PM (MtwBb)

315 A tampon/jock itch situation would be preferable at this point.

Posted by: whatever at January 23, 2012 06:17 PM (O7ksG)

316
We're back to local issues and Paul is asked about the Everglades.



Finally!
Posted by: Wally Gator




Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 23, 2012 06:17 PM (3wBRE)

317 I guess my kids are anchor babies now too. I lived outside of America for awhile.

Posted by: robtr at January 23, 2012 06:18 PM (MtwBb)

318 319 Mitt the anchor baby? Is being born to an American citizen in America an Anchor baby now? Who knew?

Posted by: robtr at January 23, 2012 10:17 PM (MtwBb)

It's worth watching Andrea Mitchell say this stuff, she made even her fellow lib panelists gasp..

Sometimes I think she should get the award for most research done on the conspiracy blogs.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 06:18 PM (oZfic)

319 317 "Silent breaks online. Nice. No tampon or jock itch commercials to suffer through." Posted by: MrC_5150 at January 23, 2012 10:16 PM (UeuU/) Thankfully no Cialis commercials, either. Newt and Pelosi in twin bathtubs holding hands would just be to gross.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 06:19 PM (niZvt)

320 Damn it, they're luring Santorum into socialcon territory...

Posted by: Justamom at January 23, 2012 06:19 PM (YmXd9)

321 Terri fucking Schivo??? Are you fucking shitting me??? REALLY???

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 23, 2012 06:19 PM (X3vSL)

322 What. The. Fuck.

Posted by: MrC_5150 at January 23, 2012 06:19 PM (UeuU/)

323 Mitt does well with the Obama attacks. More please.

Posted by: whatever at January 23, 2012 06:19 PM (O7ksG)

324 Wow, three people clapped.

Posted by: Laura Castellano at January 23, 2012 06:19 PM (fuw6p)

325 Adam Smith is a ghoul.

Posted by: MrC_5150 at January 23, 2012 06:20 PM (UeuU/)

326 Hack media. HACK.

Posted by: whatever at January 23, 2012 06:21 PM (O7ksG)

327

The topic is the sugar subsidy, a big deal in Florida. "In an ideal world you would have an open market" for the sugar industry, Gingrich says.

Romney says he'd get rid of subsidies and let the markets work.




One point for Romney

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 23, 2012 06:21 PM (3wBRE)

328 How long ago was the terry schiavo case?

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 06:21 PM (oZfic)

329

Upthread someone wondered if the young men behind The Brian were Mitt's sons.  It was a tight shot which only showed The Brian and the young men.

Coming back from the break they had a wide shot.  The wider shot now included not only the young men, but also a much older gentleman.  For some reason, the visual of the previous question and then seeing the older man gives me the giggles.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at January 23, 2012 06:21 PM (WUWb9)

330 309 sums it all up, huh?

Posted by: whatever at January 23, 2012 06:21 PM (O7ksG)

331 If I was in the hospital with a hot head nurse, I would put a "Resuscitate - Blow Tube Below Waist" sign on my jammies.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 06:22 PM (niZvt)

332

 How long ago was the terry schiavo case?

Test post, please ignore.

Posted by: L Rob in OK at January 23, 2012 06:22 PM (7yvLv)

333 Francine the Hawt Librarian asks - Mittens, please babble about the defunct Space Coast.

Posted by: chunky at January 23, 2012 06:22 PM (DLLqZ)

334 Ask about Keystone? Nah, it's old news! Let's ask about fucking Terry Schiavo!

Posted by: NBC Collective at January 23, 2012 06:22 PM (sOPIV)

335
Romney did a walkback on his statement that he'd veto the DREAM Act, saying he would sign it if it was focused on military service.

This is a big shift from what he'd said in Iowa, which was a hard-right position that might not play well with Florida's Hispanic population.

Politico




Well, in a way he's consistant....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 23, 2012 06:23 PM (3wBRE)

336 Is NASA's mission still muslim outreach? Space is security. SCOAMT is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: Justamom at January 23, 2012 06:23 PM (YmXd9)

337 The 2 local newsreaders are more interested in making themselves look profound with their idiotic inane questions. The bimbo has to look down at her notes .

Posted by: Avi at January 23, 2012 06:23 PM (iSFyV)

338 Ammo dump, that was me, and you just made me laugh out loud. Thanks, I need that right now.

Posted by: Laura Castellano at January 23, 2012 06:23 PM (fuw6p)

339 Long time ago, ambrosia.  I don't like Romeny answer to teh space program question.  We're on the way to having a private sector lead the way as it should.

Posted by: rabidfox at January 23, 2012 06:23 PM (S36VZ)

340 @337- I'd have a sign: "Help! A rattler bit my penis!"

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 23, 2012 06:24 PM (X3vSL)

341

Any issue that can be used to make republicans look odd has no statute of limitations for the pro-dem-and-not-hiding-it-anymore media.

That, and dems a ghools. They couldn't wait to pull her plug and see her die.

Posted by: whatever at January 23, 2012 06:24 PM (O7ksG)

342 Newt said 'fundametally' again. Scary.

Posted by: MrC_5150 at January 23, 2012 06:24 PM (UeuU/)

343 Is that a pearl necklace around her neck?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 06:25 PM (niZvt)

344 349 Newt said 'fundametally' again. Scary.

Posted by: MrC_5150 at January 23, 2012 10:24 PM (UeuU/)

At least he's off the lean six sigma kick.


Posted by: Cast Iron at January 23, 2012 06:25 PM (EL+OC)

345 Newt you dumb fuck, the Bush tax cuts did create jobs. Unemployment was down to 4.5%. That was an Obamaesce answer.

Posted by: robtr at January 23, 2012 06:26 PM (MtwBb)

346 What conversation?  I feel like they are asking thinly disguised gotcha type questions and expecting perfect answers.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 06:26 PM (oZfic)

347 I'm not seeing anything going on here that would be expected to alter the race really. Kind of a debate punt, it seems.

Posted by: Entropy, Racism Delenda Est at January 23, 2012 06:26 PM (Ci0JG)

348 Idiot Savant Newt at his best.

Posted by: Cast Iron at January 23, 2012 06:26 PM (EL+OC)

349 Wow, wonder what Newt was saying to Mitt when that commercial break hit!

Posted by: Laura Castellano at January 23, 2012 06:26 PM (fuw6p)

350 They're all doing fine, basically.

Posted by: Entropy, Racism Delenda Est at January 23, 2012 06:27 PM (Ci0JG)

351 It was much better when Brian Williams was by himself

Posted by: Avi at January 23, 2012 06:27 PM (iSFyV)

352

Tampons and jock itches could ask better questions that the jackasses at NBC.

Posted by: whatever at January 23, 2012 06:27 PM (O7ksG)

353 356, please don't bring up my record again. I will give you some cookies.

Posted by: robtr at January 23, 2012 06:28 PM (MtwBb)

354 When Newt starts to sound like a lefty I get nervous. Not good.

Posted by: whatever at January 23, 2012 06:28 PM (O7ksG)

355 356 Wow, wonder what Newt was saying to Mitt when that commercial break hit! Posted by: Laura Castellano at January 23, 2012 10:26 PM (fuw6p) "Up for a latina reporter sandwich?"

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 06:28 PM (niZvt)

356 I am getting bored. Maybe Newt will nail one of those two news reading bimbos

Posted by: Avi at January 23, 2012 06:29 PM (iSFyV)

357 It's been a walk down memory lane, will they bring up hanging chads next?

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 06:30 PM (oZfic)

358 CooCzech:  I don't think so.  Mitt won't and Newt daren't.

Posted by: rabidfox at January 23, 2012 06:30 PM (S36VZ)

359 oooo the big picture

Posted by: MrC_5150 at January 23, 2012 06:30 PM (UeuU/)

360 Actually, Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate who would deviate from the status quo. The Founding Fathers would approve. Now shower me with insults and invectives, ye defenders of the status quo. Tell me how I'm the problem.

Posted by: Helpful Pundit at January 23, 2012 06:30 PM (jiwQf)

361 Not unprecidented, idiot.  Look at the dems last campaign.

Posted by: rabidfox at January 23, 2012 06:30 PM (S36VZ)

362 Romney looks tired.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 06:31 PM (niZvt)

363 Thank goodness they're gone

Posted by: Avi at January 23, 2012 06:31 PM (iSFyV)

364 why didn't Newt bring up his space mirror idea to light the freeways with sweet, sweet moonlight.

Posted by: robtr at January 23, 2012 06:31 PM (MtwBb)

365

So all of htis was to make the R's look boring. oH! Tomorrow night on NBC - a wonderful interview with the exciting obama. Why do we do this to ourselves?

 

Posted by: whatever at January 23, 2012 06:31 PM (O7ksG)

366 Romneybot v4.0: Androids have no soul. Does not compute.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 23, 2012 06:32 PM (X3vSL)

367 Newts space mirrors would work great here in Seattle. I am sure the Newt space mirrors would make the clouds go away.

Posted by: robtr at January 23, 2012 06:32 PM (MtwBb)

368 > will they bring up hanging chads next?

Ack! Not that again!

Posted by: Chad at January 23, 2012 06:32 PM (e/UNe)

369

So, Helpful, vote for Paul.  It is certainly your right.  But Ron Paul has accomplished nothing in his ten years in Congress.  Talks a big game, yes, but accomplished nothing.

Posted by: rabidfox at January 23, 2012 06:33 PM (S36VZ)

370 Wow, here's rick taken it to them.  He's too nice while he's doing it though. 

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 06:34 PM (oZfic)

371 @369- You're exactly right in the sense that "batshit insane" is not generally considered the status quo.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 23, 2012 06:34 PM (X3vSL)

372 Santorum goes all killer rabbit...

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 06:34 PM (niZvt)

373 Mr. Romeny get that smirk off your face, that picture will be on every front page tomorrow.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 06:35 PM (oZfic)

374 No circular firing squad please. Can't we just stick it to the SCOAMT? Need a highlight reel?

Posted by: Justamom at January 23, 2012 06:35 PM (Sptt8)

375 Santorum is sounding less whiney tonight.  Maybe he does have a backbone.

Posted by: rabidfox at January 23, 2012 06:35 PM (S36VZ)

376 They have successfully bored me to the point I am yawning, so I'm going to take the kitties and go to bed.  Enjoy the rest of the debate, morons.

Posted by: Laura Castellano at January 23, 2012 06:35 PM (fuw6p)

377 This is why I gave up on Santorum. He has nothing to stand on so he does the EXACT same thing as Obama will do, attack. Yeah, I have to stand with the only one that has a chance.

Posted by: David Kramer at January 23, 2012 06:35 PM (OkW7e)

378

You know, economic Santorum is not so bad, a hell of a lot better than Pope Santorum.

Posted by: Entropy, Racism Delenda Est at January 23, 2012 06:36 PM (Ci0JG)

379
Romney is talking about his record as Massachusetts governor. "We were able to reach across the aisle to fight for conservative principles."


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 23, 2012 06:36 PM (3wBRE)

380 Uncle Ron is going to define conservationism for you boys and girls.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 06:36 PM (oZfic)

381 374  Why do we do this to ourselves?

Posted by: whatever at January 23, 2012 10:31 PM (O7ksG)


Because we are profoundly retarded?

Posted by: Cast Iron at January 23, 2012 06:36 PM (EL+OC)

382 Liked Santorum for another minute

Posted by: MrC_5150 at January 23, 2012 06:37 PM (UeuU/)

383 It may just be that Mittnewt harm themselves so much, Steady Eddy Santorum is the last man standing. Paul would be the Martian standing next to him.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 06:38 PM (niZvt)

384

Romney has a conserative record?!!!

Posted by: rabidfox at January 23, 2012 06:38 PM (S36VZ)

385 Did brian fall asleep on the beach?

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 06:38 PM (oZfic)

386 No applause from 300 +/- NBC invitee audience will contrast sharply with the adulation for "the one"tomorrow night. One and done, that is!!!!!!!

Posted by: Justamom at January 23, 2012 06:39 PM (Sptt8)

387

Gingrich does damn well know what he is doing though.

He knows *exactly* what to say.

And I have a feeling that skill is transferable. He is running for our nomination. I think he has the capacity to be very very effective with moderates. If he can read one demo so well, he can perhaps read another as well, in ways which aren't flat out offensive to the former.

Posted by: Entropy, Racism Delenda Est at January 23, 2012 06:40 PM (Ci0JG)

388 When was America last great?

Aw come on brian, at least try and pretend you are serious.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 06:40 PM (oZfic)

389 If Newt spends any more time sucking Paul's cock, he's going to catch sexually transmitted crazy.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 23, 2012 06:40 PM (X3vSL)

390 Hmmmm, that video I watched with Mitt on how he would get rid of the mandate and work the rest of the bureaucracy he would work with. Or is it just me? I must have dreamed that video or something. Why is it, that some people think that video of them saying something is forgotten or gets flushed down the memory hole?

Posted by: David Kramer at January 23, 2012 06:40 PM (OkW7e)

391 394 Did brian fall asleep on the beach? Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 10:38 PM (oZfic) I think that the Hot Lips Latina is smearing some lipstick on his dipstick under the desk.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 06:41 PM (niZvt)

392 David Gregory - OFF

Posted by: MrC_5150 at January 23, 2012 06:41 PM (UeuU/)

393
NBC's Brian Williams says the debate is now over.



Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 23, 2012 06:42 PM (3wBRE)

394 Hey! Those people are not cardboard cutouts. I think that was a great plan NBC created there. They created a perfect situation of blandness. Hmmm, I wonder if David Axelrod was in on the planning.

Posted by: David Kramer at January 23, 2012 06:42 PM (OkW7e)

395 Didn't Gregory play the Elf in Lord of the Rings? Or was it the Faerie?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 06:42 PM (niZvt)

396 Best part of the debate? No obnoxious Paultards hooting, booing and cheering in service of their alien overlord.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 23, 2012 06:43 PM (X3vSL)

397 You know Michelle Bachman did an excellent job of getting across to the American people what is necessary to repeal obamacare.   Even NYC libs can repeat the formula.  Yeah are they making fun of her...yeah but they memorized the method...so she was highly successful.  

So now, it's not enough for mittens to say "I will repeal obamacare" cause everyone knows he can't do anything by himself.

They all have to come up with a cogent effective strategy.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 06:43 PM (oZfic)

398 Now we have the NBC truth panderers. Hmmmmm, what did they call that, oh yeah, the MiniTru.

Posted by: David Kramer at January 23, 2012 06:44 PM (OkW7e)

399 Holy shit that sucked all around.

Posted by: Mr. Consensus at January 23, 2012 06:44 PM (TRlpJ)

400 Andrea Mitchell is such a kapo apparatchik .

Posted by: Avi at January 23, 2012 06:45 PM (iSFyV)

401 Actually, Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate who would deviate from the status quo. The Founding Fathers would approve. Now shower me with insults and invectives, ye defenders of the status quo. Cuz the status quo, well, that's worked out swimmingly hasn't it ?

Posted by: Helpful Pundit at January 23, 2012 06:45 PM (jiwQf)

402 Chuck Todd is gay, right? Not that there's anything wrong it.....

Posted by: S Daniel at January 23, 2012 06:45 PM (fM4AU)

403 The debate sucked in terms of entertaining tv, but I do feel better about our choice between Gingrich and Romney.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at January 23, 2012 06:45 PM (Y5I9o)

404 Best I can tell we should expect Gingrich to remain the front runner for the immediate future.

Posted by: Entropy, Racism Delenda Est at January 23, 2012 06:45 PM (Ci0JG)

405 Damnit, I came in at the very end of the debate!  Anyone feeling charitable enough to give me a summary of how they think the candidates did?

Posted by: Grimaldi at January 23, 2012 06:45 PM (ksQuw)

406 Help! I got banned. I sent email with my ip to aceofspadeshq at gmail. Is there anything else I can do?

Posted by: Y-not has been banned at January 23, 2012 06:46 PM (yadPx)

407 Cred for Santorum: About 400 occupy protesters were removed from his Tea Party sponsored event in FL today. A ringing endorsement.

Posted by: Justamom at January 23, 2012 06:47 PM (Sptt8)

408 Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate required by his minders to wear a hockey helmet when he's allowed to venture out of the facility.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 23, 2012 06:47 PM (X3vSL)

409 By the way, I feel really retarded now....I kept wondering where the "Luap Nor" name came from.  Even looked it up on wikipedia....and then I realized what it was, and I felt like a moron.  =(

I figured it was the name of one of the villains from Superman II

Posted by: Grimaldi at January 23, 2012 06:48 PM (ksQuw)

410 Dear Mother of God! Andrea Mitchell looks like she's totally bald under that whig.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 06:48 PM (niZvt)

411 If andrea mitchell is right, mitt will look not just like a fool but a damned fool.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 06:48 PM (oZfic)

412 Three minutes to Santorum. The rest sucked. Florida has their collective hands full.

Posted by: MrC_5150 at January 23, 2012 06:49 PM (UeuU/)

413 @416- Not really. Just wait a few weeks till he gets around to checking his e-mail.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 23, 2012 06:49 PM (X3vSL)

414 If Mitt has huge investments in fannie and freddie why is he attacking newt for working for them, asks andrea mitchell nbc news.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 06:50 PM (oZfic)

415 Well MSNBC agrees with a lot of commenters here. There don't like Romney and loves them some Gingrich. I am not sure the MSNBC folks will vote for Gingrich but you never know.

Posted by: robtr at January 23, 2012 06:51 PM (MtwBb)

416 416 Help! I got banned. I sent email with my ip to aceofspadeshq at gmail. Is there anything else I can do? Posted by: Y-not has been banned at January 23, 2012 10:46 PM (yadPx) No; Ace blames you for not supporting Perry enough! I'll keep posting demands you be unbanned...

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 06:51 PM (niZvt)

417 Were there any registered republican voters in the nbc audience? 

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 06:52 PM (oZfic)

418 Alas, I live in Virginia..... They only let "Douche" on the ballot......

Posted by: Kasper Hauser at January 23, 2012 06:52 PM (tB2tX)

419 421 "If andrea mitchell is right, mitt will look not just like a fool but a damned fool." Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 10:48 PM (oZfic) Well Yeah, but... Andrea Mitchell right?? Meh.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 06:53 PM (niZvt)

420 Andrea Mitchell snarks about a "mating game" between Newt and Paul. Let's see the blind mans bride say that about Obama and Reggie X Love.

Posted by: S Daniel at January 23, 2012 06:53 PM (fM4AU)

421 415- I'm biased, but here goes: Ron Paul needs to hang it up. Can't laugh out of foreign policy anymore, and anecdotes off topic don't help. Santorum had maybe his best showing and didn't get bogged down on socialcon. Romney shoulda coulda admitted Romneycare wasn't the greatest thing ever, and tended to smirk a lot. Gingrich is sharp, smart and I'm hoping electable because Romney's a Rino. My opinion.

Posted by: Justamom at January 23, 2012 06:53 PM (Sptt8)

422 @411 Now shower me with insults and invectives



Um, ok... you are a turd burglar.

Posted by: Mongoose at January 23, 2012 06:54 PM (KM86p)

423 Back to the 'Wizard of Oz' story over at GBTV on demand. 'night everybody.

Posted by: MrC_5150 at January 23, 2012 06:54 PM (UeuU/)

424 Andrea Mitchell also said today that Romney's grandfather immigrated illegally to the US from Mexico. I think she's been drinking furniture polish again. (He went to Mexico as a US citizen and then came back). PsyOps.

Posted by: Moonbeam at January 23, 2012 06:55 PM (1k4dd)

425 There is only one choice, friends, and that is NEWT GINGRICH, 2012. He's the architect of 1994, and also the smartest man in the room. Let's all get behind him, NEWT PAC 2012! (via Paypal in Las Vegas).

Posted by: GINGRICH 2012 at January 23, 2012 06:58 PM (gj4aA)

426 You know what I noticed in their little segment on their interns?  rick perry and newt really were nice to them, even though they were rick perry and newt gingrich.  The shook their hands, said hello, heck newt wished his nbc political intern a happy birthday....that says something.  That shows a level of respect for people that you don't see a lot.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 06:58 PM (oZfic)

427 Mitts attacks fell flat.

1-Influence peddling:

Remember when questioning how someone made money was ATTACKING CAPITALISM!!!

2- Resigned in disgrace.

Hey Mitt, you should urge Nancy Pelosi to release the Ethics Report.



Posted by: notion at January 23, 2012 06:59 PM (MwTP4)

428 So... sounds like no change. I didn't watch, but thought there might be fireworks. I don't love Romney, that much is clear, but if I wanted him to be President, I would be sorely disappointed that he and his people haven't seemed to quite catch on to the fact that Republicans want their nominee to DO SOMETHING about the issues that they take seriously. I don't get the impression Mitt wants to commit to any course of action. Maybe he would be alright, if he gets elected, but if he won't tell us what he intends to do, I don't think he's going to get elected.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 23, 2012 07:00 PM (Gc/Qi)

429 Romney made a few good attacks on a more sober Gingrich but not enough to significantly help him in the polls.

Posted by: M80B at January 23, 2012 07:01 PM (d6QMz)

430 I made old Puddin' Head have to mortgage his house.

Posted by: Mitt the Destroyer at January 23, 2012 07:03 PM (KM86p)

431 I just saw a tweet that gingrich's contracts from his fannie/freddie works have disappeared????

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 07:06 PM (oZfic)

432

BurtTC, it's not that there weren't fireworks, but nothing caught on fire.

The candidates got fairly rough with each other, but everyone held their ground well and nothing has really changed, it seems. Some tense moments, but no clear winners. No bad moments for anyone, and no standing ovations for anyone either.

Posted by: Entropy, Racism Delenda Est at January 23, 2012 07:08 PM (Ci0JG)

433 I think Romney has to release his tax returns for more than one year.  If it's not his donations to the Mormon church, which everyone expects?  What else could it be?  Why not 6 or 7 years like his father.  There's a reason why he won't release them.  

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 07:11 PM (oZfic)

434 There's a lot of win, coming off of the debates, and that win smells of Newt! Newt Gingrich, 2012! For Freedom!

Posted by: Sir Taxalot, the Weak at January 23, 2012 07:15 PM (gj4aA)

435 No wonder he was singing and playing his ukelele the other day.  link

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 07:26 PM (oZfic)

436 > 416 Help! I got banned. I sent email with my ip to aceofspadeshq at gmail. Is there anything else I can do?

Posted by: Y-not has been banned at January 23, 2012 10:46 PM (yadPx)


Nope. Moron comments are ruled by Brownian Motion. Just be glad you weren't treated as a "Schrödinger's cat".

Posted by: Chad at January 23, 2012 07:28 PM (DVgNA)

437

Newt's a sucky candidate, but he's a tough passionate debater.... BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA.

Posted by: SwingRich at January 23, 2012 07:31 PM (viPwp)

438 Didn't realize I could not link.  The article is from bloomberg:  "BuffettÂ’s Railroad Among Winners From Keystone Denial"

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 07:32 PM (oZfic)

439 Mitt the anchor baby? Is being born to an American citizen in America an Anchor baby now? Who knew? Posted by: robtr at January 23, 2012 10:17 PM (MtwBb) George Romney was born in Mexico--there was a Mormon colony down there, and it's not clear whether he ever became a US citizen.

Posted by: Burke at January 23, 2012 07:37 PM (9N3G1)

440 Nope. Moron comments are ruled by Brownian Motion. Just be glad you weren't treated as a "Schrödinger's cat".

I love psychological tests, just do not test if I am a malignant narcissist with sociopathic tendencies!

Posted by: Barrack Insane Obama at January 23, 2012 07:37 PM (OkW7e)

441 447 Newt's a sucky candidate, but he's a tough passionate debater.... BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA.

Why do you think this debate was as bland as possible? Why do you think almost every question that was asked was a hypothetical question? Or one's that involved conflicts within the Republican party?

Must have been coincidence, because there is NO CHANCE that it was planned. Because NBC or GE has NOTHING to do with the Democrats!

Posted by: Barrack Insane Obama at January 23, 2012 07:41 PM (OkW7e)

442 Look at the picture on drudge of the audience.  Their body language says bored and defensive. 

I think NBC has been annoyed that the debates were getting such great audience share so they decided to produce the most boring, predictable debate possible so as to discourage future viewing. 

If you recorded it, you can go through it pretty fast by skipping all the commercials.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 07:49 PM (oZfic)

443 " George Romney was born in Mexico--there was a Mormon colony down there, and it's not clear whether he ever became a US citizen." George's parents never forfeited their citizenship, and Mexico never claimed the mormon offspring born there as their citizens...so...by default, they were US citizens born abroad.

Posted by: phil at January 23, 2012 07:52 PM (QzdcC)

444 I think Romney has to release his tax returns for more than one year. If it's not his donations to the Mormon church, which everyone expects? What else could it be? Why not 6 or 7 years like his father. There's a reason why he won't release them.
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Really? What are the reasons for the rest of the candidates?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 23, 2012 07:56 PM (piMMO)

445 Can...can I drop NBC from my cable package? It sucks too damned much. It ruins the other channels just by being near them on the remote.

Posted by: cackfinger at January 23, 2012 07:58 PM (a9mQu)

446 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 23, 2012 11:56 PM (piMMO)

They should all release them or none release them.  I don't think it's anyone's business until you are the nominee.   But, you can't tell anything from one year or even two years if you count the draft for this year.  They are just going to create controversy for some and others will allude to "stuff in previous returns".   If it's cut and dry, then it's cut and dry.  But they are going to be going over those returns with a fine tooth comb, comparing them to bain filings, and any other public record. 

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 08:02 PM (oZfic)

447 From the daily caller:  "Obama for Gingrich" memo hits Romney"

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 08:03 PM (oZfic)

448 I think any democrats that can vote in these republican primaries will vote Newt because they know that means an obama 2nd term. I am voting Romney and as a conservative republican am doing so enthusiasically.

Posted by: James at January 23, 2012 08:16 PM (IoTd/)

449 Is NY the only state where you can only vote in the primary if you are registered as either a republican or a democrat.  And you get a democratic ballot if you are a democrat and a republican ballot if you are a republican and you get left out in the cold if you are an independent.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 08:21 PM (oZfic)

450 I don't know.  If mccain and huckabee turned against mitt and now fred thompson endorsed newt.  It sort of looks like some who were involved in the process the last time with mittens might not have come away with that warm and fuzzy feeling.  We'll have to watch for some indicators from the rest of the field that was with romney the first go round to see if this attitude is prevalent cause that might cause some to think about why.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 08:25 PM (oZfic)

451 " If mccain and huckabee turned against mitt and now fred thompson endorsed newt" Mccain endorsed him. Huck has been playing footsies with him this time around. Fred and Rudy still have grudges.

Posted by: phil at January 23, 2012 08:31 PM (QzdcC)

452 Romney released his returns.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 08:32 PM (oZfic)

453 Mitt Romney releases tax returns: Candidate earned $21.7M in 2010 and $20.9M in 2011 -
at washington post on twitter

Funny, heard ABC news report on this.  They said he paid a 14% tax rate and 3 million in taxes but they didn't have the guts to say on 21 mil of income.



Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 09:05 PM (oZfic)

454 WAIT! HOLD THE PRESSES!!

You mean the Newt doesn't win a debate where the audience isn't allowed to applaud like a pack of rabid wolves and the debate itself is amazingly boring, moderating by some of the most dull people in existence?

Ohh, you mean, like in actual presidential debates?

Bush - Gore, 2000 moderated by Jim Lehrer
Bush - Kerry, 2004 moderated by the almost dead Bob Shieffer
Obama - McCain, 2008 moderated by Jim Lehrer


Posted by: Uriah Heep at January 23, 2012 09:34 PM (447Af)

455 I agree with David Limbaugh. That was not a debate. I think it was intended to be debate but somehow what they actually did there sucked so badly that it fell right out of the debate category. Maybe it was a sort of incompetently farcical panel-discussion quiz-show alt-history-scenario role-playing freak-show thing? NBC really sucks at this.

Posted by: cackfinger at January 23, 2012 09:39 PM (a9mQu)

456 Why does no one report Mittens actual income.  His rate and what he paid in taxes is not what is going to matter to the guy making 30 grand a year.  But, the guys who makes 30 grand a year is going to get pretty pissed off when he does the proportion and realizes he is paying far more in taxes proportionately than mittens is paying.  That's why they are all conveniently leaving out his income. 


Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 09:45 PM (oZfic)

457 I watched the debate with the exception of a conversation with a client who called about 3/4 of the way through.  I had to drink two very large cups of coffee to stay awake.  I just read the msnbc.com account of the debate and I wondered if he and I watched the same debate.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 09:50 PM (oZfic)

458 I didn't catch this before, so the Romney 2.0 position on underwater mortgages on this debate caught me underwares: http://tinyurl.com/86f2two Romney 1.0: Let them drown. Mittlikenesses: Ebenezer Scrooge, Old Man Potter. Romney 2.0: "Of COURSE we help them" ... into moral hazard - by the government throwng the banks & mortgages companies into the water, thereby allowing those deadbeat home occupiers to crawl out unscathed. New Mittlikenesses: Vladimir Lenin, Bernie Sanders. If Romney gets to be the NOMinee, the presidential debates in the general will be an utter Mittostrophe. Mitt's running left of Krugman.

Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at January 23, 2012 09:51 PM (vahvH)

459 226 "Jesus, Navy the smallest since 1917. Can you imagine what it will be like if Obama has 5 more years?" Any 5 year old will be able to drown the entire Navy in his bathtub.

Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at January 23, 2012 09:54 PM (vahvH)

460 No, presidential debates just really -ARE- that boring. My previous post had url's to the actual debates on Youtube that were lost with the boards formatting problem, I recommend you watch them:

2000 Bush-Gore moderated by Jim Lehrer (http://tinyurl.com/76yzb45)
2004 Bush-Kerry moderated by Schieffer (http://tinyurl.com/87a6uz5)
2008 Obama-McCain moderated by Jim Lehrer (http://tinyurl.com/3uax6o)

Newt is just playing to the crowd like a Gladiator to the blood-thirsty Romans -- but put the Gladiator in an actual war, with actual battles, and he's dead.


Posted by: Uriah Heep at January 23, 2012 09:54 PM (447Af)

461 Why does no one report Mittens actual income. His rate and what he paid in taxes is not what is going to matter to the guy making 30 grand a year. But, the guys who makes 30 grand a year is going to get pretty pissed off when he does the proportion and realizes he is paying far more in taxes proportionately than mittens is paying. That's why they are all conveniently leaving out his income.
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With all respect, are you retarded? The rate -IS- the proportion. It's the percentage income paid, thus [tax]/[income]=[fractional rate]*100 = percentage

You just said the [rate] isn't going to matter, it's the [percentage] ... ugh! Our country is fucked.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at January 23, 2012 10:01 PM (447Af)

462 So far I don't like both newt and romney.  I've been catching them both in fibs?  Is that a nice way to put it?  No wonder the lawmakers want the internet to go away.  You can fact check them in real time.  You can email your little old lady next store neighbor with a mind like a steel trap and ask her to explain a period in history or should I say herstory, a period she lived through and how she felt and how she reacted when one or the other commented on that period in history. 

Also, a candidate can no longer tell the people in NH what they want to hear and then tell the people in florida what they want to hear, cause everyone will hear and those want to hears might just sound like you are speaking out of both sides of your mouth with your fingers crossed against your back.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 10:03 PM (oZfic)

463 Posted by: Uriah Heep at January 24, 2012 02:01 AM (447Af)

A baseball player making 21 mil in income will pay almost twice the rate as ol mittens.

Today a poster made a very nice post about the use of the word "retarded".  He/she made some excellent points.  Perhaps you might like to read the post it was at the end of one of today's threads.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 10:07 PM (oZfic)

464 Romney seems to have sent $6.2M to Washington in taxes and $7M went to charities and the church in charitable contributions.

That proportion sounds just about right for how Americans -should- be allocating their money in my view. Less to the IRS to feed the statist beast, more to the private sector.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at January 23, 2012 10:08 PM (447Af)

465 Posted by: Uriah Heep at January 24, 2012 02:01 AM (447Af)

Not sure who you are or what you do for a living.  But, the average person isn't so savvy about this stuff.   Their tax return in most case is a page, not a tome.  Sorry if I wasn't clear enough for you but I'd be surprised if it plays in peoria.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 10:10 PM (oZfic)

466 ambrosia, what is the impetus to take your thinking on this seriously when you don't understand basic microeconomics?

You claimed 'they' in the media were discussing the tax [rate] and masking away the [proportion] paid, which will outrage Joe-six-pack when he computes it himself.

Uh, no Joe is smart enough to know that the 15% rate listed in the first paragraph is what to compare against their rate -- because it's the same thing. No hidden illuminatus or rabbit tricks.

If Joe-six-pack is one of the 54% of Americans who has money invested in the stock market (ie. he's a Republican), then he understands that the 15% rate is the same as he pays on cap gains. And if he's not in that 54%, the likelihood of getting his vote with any candidate has pitfalled already.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at January 23, 2012 10:18 PM (447Af)

467 Americans are basically nosy.  As they are looking through the return this line will be ringing in their heads along with the way in which it was delivered:  "He continued: “But I paid all the taxes that are legally required and not a dollar more. Â… I donÂ’t think you want someone as the candidate for president who pays more taxes than he owes.”  (it's a politico quote from a burns and haberman article)

They will also be thinking about the fact that under newt's plan romney wouldn't be paying any taxes at all.  Both candidates were dinged in that entire exchange which is why it's highlighted on politico.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 10:20 PM (oZfic)

468 Posted by: Uriah Heep at January 24, 2012 02:18 AM (447Af)

A conclusion that I know nothing about macro or micro economics is a stretch from our small exchange.

Perception is everything.  The release of mitts tax return plays right into the president's hands in an odd sort of way.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 10:23 PM (oZfic)

469 I agree, you make an excellent point that at this point nobody wins.

We're at that stage where it should never have come to this. If only WOPR had gamed it all out before Matthew Broddrick decided to get laid, he'd have seen nobody wins.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at January 23, 2012 10:24 PM (447Af)

470 Isn't that rinse prebus' job?  Shouldn't he be thinking out all this stuff?  Shouldn't he be doing damage control?  As I said earlier.  These debates are a double edged sword.  Sure, millions of people are seeing them and learning about the republican brand but the republicans are furnishing everyone with lots of sound bites.  The president's campaign can just use the candidates in their own words attacking one another to make their points in the general election.  The president can go out there and say "I'm a nice guy, I wouldn't say this stuff but hey, they said it to one another so I think it's important that all the American people hear it".

Don't know the answer to this question, if I did I'd send an email to each campaign.

I think you have to have faith that the American people can ferret through the bs.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 10:37 PM (oZfic)

471

shit, I pay over 15% just in self-employment taxes, that doesn't even count income taxes.

Time for me to SELF-DEPORT.

Posted by: doug at January 23, 2012 11:14 PM (gUGI6)

472
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