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October 10, 2012

Livestream: Lt. Col. Andrew Wood Exposes Weak Security At Benghazi
— Ace

Just starting his remarks now. It's also on CSPAN.

Nordstrom's Remarks. Wood just spoke, now Nordstrom is.

John E. tips this as a WTF?

Nordstrom was worried -he did not know how much the Americans could rely on members of a local Libyan militia in Benghazi that provided security Â— the Â“17th of February Martyrs Brigade.Â” Mostly merchants and shopkeepers before the war, they seemed eager, but they hadnÂ’t much experience and other than a daily $30 stipend for food from the U.S. Embassy, they hadnÂ’t been paid in months.

Hadn't been paid in months.

Right now, he's making the point that the Libyan state was very weak post-revolution, and could not protect embassies as other states could. He lists a series of violent actors -- Kadaffi loyalists, "roaming militias," etc. -- presenting a danger.

However, his thrust, if I understand it, seems to be one defending the Administration.

Not only were the Libyan guards not American (and not being paid), they were also unarmed.

Nordstrom is "proud" of how he and his guards performed.

Proud? In what scenario would you be less than proud?

Disinformation Campaign: Ben Howe's video for Heritage, again:

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1 Can't watch, I'm at work.

Posted by: Infidel at October 10, 2012 08:41 AM (O/fK8)

2 Connolly:God forbid this becomes a political football (although it's worked for us Dem's up to this point. But now? Not so much so lets not do it).

Posted by: Wisrich at October 10, 2012 08:42 AM (hdpay)

3 popcorn

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 10, 2012 08:44 AM (WAOCR)

4 2 Connolly:God forbid this becomes a political football (although it's worked for us Dem's up to this point. But now? Not so much so lets not do it).

The game of football is already underway, like it or not. We may not have chosen the game or sat on the committee that created the rules, but by God we have to play to win.

Posted by: Scanner Dan at October 10, 2012 08:44 AM (D8J79)

5 How can we spend time on hearings about Benghazi when Big Bird's survival still hangs in the balance?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 10, 2012 08:44 AM (QKKT0)

6 It appears that the October surprise came a month early.

While Obozo runs lame ads about Big Bird, the real campaign material is being gathered this very moment.

And gee... it looks like the Intel and SpecOps crowd aren't going to throw themselves under the bus for Dear Leader.

Go figure.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at October 10, 2012 08:45 AM (1GunI)

7 butter

Posted by: salted at October 10, 2012 08:45 AM (LpQbZ)

8

Gird your loins!!!

Posted by: tod von oben at October 10, 2012 08:45 AM (UaxA0)

9 Ace, this is off topic, but please, please, PLEASE read this post from Ann Althouse. http://goo.gl/E6akx Then also note her comment where she writes, and I quote: "The Daily Caller did a lousy job of its revelation. The fact Sowell highlights -- so clear and so devastating -- completely transforms the story for me. "Obama lied, blatantly and for the purpose of making black people feel discriminated against. That's evil." You really need to post on this, Ace. It all comes from an article from Thomas Sowell, and he nailed it.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 08:45 AM (u8eBQ)

10 Tumbler of bourbon on the rocks.

Posted by: EC at October 10, 2012 08:46 AM (GQ8sn)

11 Hearings on Banghazi? More please.

Posted by: Eric Holder, with the blood of 300 dead Mexicans all over his desk at October 10, 2012 08:46 AM (QKKT0)

REAL :: SHIT = 1

Posted by: Warthog at October 10, 2012 08:47 AM (WDySP)

13 I hate to admit it but I can't watch because if I do, I'll be tempted to make some, er, intemperate comments that would not be wise.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 10, 2012 08:47 AM (VtjlW)

14 too serious for me. People died in Benghazi and that is the security failure WE KNOW OF. I have no doubts there are others, just as serious in their way, and our nation and her interests are in great peril. Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure. And a traitor.

Posted by: Thunderb at October 10, 2012 08:47 AM (Dnbau)

15 From the Halls of Montezuma
To the shores of Tripoli
We will bow and scrape and apologize
In the air, on land, and sea;
First to bow to ending freedom
And scrape off honor clean;
We are ashamed to by Text-Enhance">claim the title
Of United States Imperialist Oppressors.

Posted by: Obama Hymn at October 10, 2012 08:47 AM (Hx5uv)

16 Obama sucks cock, people die.

Posted by: Mr Pink at October 10, 2012 08:47 AM (rVFJP)

17 Looks like the MFM is uninterested.

Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 08:48 AM (jx2j9)

The biggest story to me at this point is that the State Dept issued a statement. yesterday that basically said " we didn't come up with the protest story about the video" When asked where it came from they said "ask the administration"

This seems to be getting buried under the lack of security. When it is just as bad if not worse.

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 10, 2012 08:48 AM (nTgAI)

19 I'm glad Nordstrom is testifying, and not only Woods. Both seem honorable men. The country is glad to have such men, willing not just to fight in its defense, but step up and tell the truth despite the inevitable blowback.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 08:48 AM (u8eBQ)

20 Didn't Clinton's Sec of Defense screw up in Mogadishu by not sending requested help? Democrats, saving money on defense.

Posted by: MR at October 10, 2012 08:48 AM (mka2b)

21 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at October 10, 2012 08:49 AM (nUH8H)

Spaces, howthehell dotheywork ?

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 10, 2012 08:49 AM (nTgAI)

23 Hmm... looks like things are going BOOM for Hillary, and Barky.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at October 10, 2012 08:49 AM (1GunI)

24 Nordstrom: I've seen a more vicious attack as what happend in Bengasi on Sept. 11th.

Posted by: Wisrich at October 10, 2012 08:50 AM (hdpay)

25 Mostly merchants and shopkeepers before the war, they seemed eager, but they hadnÂ’t much experience and other than a daily $30 stipend for food from the U.S. Embassy, they hadnÂ’t been paid in months.

When the chips are down, you want a falafel merchant at your side.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 10, 2012 08:50 AM (QKKT0)

26 LTC Andrew Woods: ...I feel a duty bound [...] I feel a sense of honor for those individuals who have died in service to their country. [...]The killing of a US Ambassador is a rare and extraordinary thing- and requires our attention as a people. As a citizen--I made the determination that this outweighs all other interests and will risk what ever circumstances will result form my testimony.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 08:50 AM (r2PLg)

27 The political problem is that Obama didn't own up to this and move on.

It's the typical Democrat problem. They think they can just avoid the problem and it will go away. Instead, it metastasizes and gets much worse.

My prototypical example was Billy Dale.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 10, 2012 08:50 AM (T0NGe)

28 20 Didn't Clinton's Sec of Defense screw up in Mogadishu by not sending requested help? Democrats, saving money on defense. --- Yep, Les Aspin was forced to resign over the Black Hawk Down clusterfuck because he made the calls that undersupplied the mission there.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 10, 2012 08:51 AM (e0xKF)

29 Didn't Clinton's Sec of Defense screw up in Mogadishu by not sending requested help? Democrats, saving money on defense.

Posted by: MR at October 10, 2012 12:48 PM (mka2b)

The Army wanted AC-130 gunships but the Clenis said that would "look too offensive" I had a little chat with Michael Durant about this once...

Posted by: Timon at October 10, 2012 08:51 AM (VbC46)

30 As a citizen--I made the determination that this outweighs all other interests and will risk what ever circumstances will result form my testimony.

This ought to be good....

Posted by: Scanner Dan at October 10, 2012 08:52 AM (D8J79)

31 It is as if O'Bumbles is on the other side.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at October 10, 2012 08:52 AM (71LDo)

32 Mother of gawd--pray for this guy.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 08:52 AM (r2PLg)

33 Hadn't been paid in months. I run a tight ship, fiscally.

Posted by: Lord Barry of Benghazi at October 10, 2012 08:52 AM (FcR7P)

34 Thought you were on vacation, Ace.

Posted by: Kansas Gman at October 10, 2012 08:52 AM (u4a/I)

This juxtaposition (the flag and the bloody hand prints) will cause you to catch your breath:

http://tinyurl.com/9zd2qju

Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 08:52 AM (jx2j9)

36 Mostly merchants and shopkeepers before the war, they seemed eager, but they hadnÂ’t much experience and other than a daily $30 stipend for food from the U.S. Embassy, they hadnÂ’t been paid in months.

In other words, we had the equivalent of mall cops guarding our people against AQ.

Poorly paid mall cops.

Wait....unpaid mall cops.

Posted by: EC at October 10, 2012 08:52 AM (GQ8sn)

37 I uh... think at a certain time uh... you've ~~made enough money~~ paid for enough security

Posted by: The Precedent at October 10, 2012 08:53 AM (feFL6)

38 As a citizen--I made the determination that this outweighs all other interests and will risk what ever circumstances will result form my testimony. That made me cry.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 10, 2012 08:53 AM (VtjlW)

39 Rush on fire about State denying they ever said it was "the video." So, who goes under the bus, do you think?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at October 10, 2012 08:53 AM (nUH8H)

40 Nordstrom: local guards were unarmed.

Posted by: Wisrich at October 10, 2012 08:53 AM (hdpay)

Ace, this is off topic, but please, please, PLEASE read this post from Ann Althouse.
http://goo.gl/E6akx

Then also note her comment where she writes, and I quote:

"The Daily Caller did a lousy job of its revelation. The fact Sowell highlights -- so clear and so devastating -- completely transforms the story for me.

"Obama lied, blatantly and for the purpose of making black people feel discriminated against. That's evil."<<<<<<<<

And how long does everyone have to drag her fat ass to water and make her drink? Fuck that stupid broad. She's a goddamned brainless Libtard who despises her readership. Charles Johnson with smaller tits.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 10, 2012 08:53 AM (jCyfP)

42 Person inside Big Bird suit makes $314K year, roughly $1,000/day, M-F. Security for U.S. consulate makes $30/day. TFG is toast.

Posted by: ChampionCapua at October 10, 2012 08:53 AM (KZi9D)

he did not know how much the Americans could rely on members of a local Libyan militia in Benghazi that provided security Â— the Â“17th of February Martyrs Brigade.Â” Mostly merchants and shopkeepers before the war, they seemed eager, but they hadnÂ’t much experience and other than a daily $30 stipend for food from the U.S. Embassy, they hadnÂ’t been paid in months.

Yep, when you need reliable security make sure to hire local amateurs because they'll certainly maintain loyalty no matter how much (or how little) you pay them.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 10, 2012 08:54 AM (JxMoP)

44 5 He's dead Jim.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 10, 2012 08:54 AM (oAxUf)

45 As a citizen--I made the determination that this outweighs all other
interests and will risk what ever circumstances will result form my
testimony.

This ought to be good....

Posted by: Scanner Dan at October 10, 2012 12:52 PM (D8J79)

Sounds like he is going to spill the beans

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 10, 2012 08:54 AM (nTgAI)

46 Ah, Nordstrom is standing up for the administration. Well. He has the right to give "his" opinion on that. Doesn't explain the coverup.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 08:54 AM (u8eBQ)

47 What a royal fuck up. And if this does get addressed, it will not be until after the election for the obvious reasons.

Posted by: Redd at October 10, 2012 08:55 AM (guxHP)

48 Damnit edit: As a citizen--I made the determination that this outweighs all other interests and I will risk what ever circumstances that will result from my testimony.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 08:55 AM (r2PLg)

49 So how much money does PBS get from the Fed?

How much money would have been needed to keep/increase security in Benghazi?

Suck it, Big Bird.

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 08:55 AM (X6akg)

50 http://tinyurl.com/8ag36rf Presidential race contested in far fewer states than in past Handful of battleground swing states will determine who is in the White House Saw this Ridiculous AP story this morning in the Trib

Posted by: Evilpens at October 10, 2012 08:55 AM (ck76k)

Whatever, wingnuts.

Bin Laden is dead. GM is alive.

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 10, 2012 08:55 AM (xvtYZ)

52 Person inside Big Bird suit makes $314K year, roughly $1,000/day, M-F. Wait, what? $314k/year for *that*? Dare I ask how much the guy with his hand up Elmo's ass makes?

Posted by: Ian S. at October 10, 2012 08:56 AM (B/VB5)

53 Nordstrom is "proud" of how he and his guards performed.

Proud is not the word I would have chosen.

Posted by: EC at October 10, 2012 08:56 AM (GQ8sn)

54 Nordstrom's excuse for the security set up is that it is common to use unarmed locals as security.

What the fuck is 'common' about the situation in Lybia?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 10, 2012 08:56 AM (bCaR9)

55 If only Obama and his administration were merely incompetent and not dangerously incompetent!

Posted by: General Woundwort at October 10, 2012 08:57 AM (06lNq)

56 Until/unless the legacy media starts hammering this, the Obama administration will just play stupid for three more weeks.

After which point, they'll pin the blame for this on Hilary Clinton (who is leaving anyway) and move on.

Posted by: Looking closely at October 10, 2012 08:57 AM (6Q9g2)

57 So, who goes under the bus, do you think? --- Circular firing squad. At the least, Charlene Lamb, named by Nordstrom as the person insisting security be kept artificially low, is going to be tossed. After that, it becomes a question of whether they can blame an underling for the story about the protest that Rice pushed or if they're going to have to dump Rice and/or Shrillary.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 10, 2012 08:57 AM (e0xKF)

58 Wow, awesome! They made the wall higher and put razor wire up (well duh; it was a private villa before). "17th February Brigade" She left off the "Martyrs" part.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 08:57 AM (u8eBQ)

59 HIT Biden with it...he's supposed to be the foreign policy expert, right?

Hehehheh.

Posted by: jeanne at October 10, 2012 08:57 AM (GdalM)

60 Coexisting means never having to pay your security guards.

Posted by: Dang© at October 10, 2012 08:58 AM (R18D0)

61 Can't watch.
Already too pissed off.

Posted by: VW Zao at October 10, 2012 08:58 AM (I7O5y)

62 Ace, this is off topic, but please, please, PLEASE read this post from Ann Althouse.
http://goo.gl/E6akx

The assumption that Ann Althouse is in any way relevant would be a false one.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 10, 2012 08:58 AM (SY2Kh)

63 #55

Most US embassies aren't surrounded by active hostile forces and don't request additional security measures.

Posted by: Looking closely at October 10, 2012 08:58 AM (6Q9g2)

64 And how long does everyone have to drag her fat ass to water and make her drink? Fuck that stupid broad. She's a goddamned brainless Libtard who despises her readership. Charles Johnson with smaller tits.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 10, 2012 12:53 PM (jCyfP)

I think you should have a talk show on cable. You have a way with words that brings things into focus.

It could be titled "Politically Infuriated, in the Empire of Jeff"

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 10, 2012 08:58 AM (nTgAI)

65 Not paying armed, desperate, hungry people is like... the quickest way to have ANGRY, armed, desperate, hungry people willing to take money from any source. It's like, one of the key reasons Machiavelli (and I think Clauswitz and Jomini too) advise against mercenary forces whenever possible.

Posted by: Matt S. at October 10, 2012 08:58 AM (moRRg)

66 >>have to dump Rice and/or Shrillary Rice is nothing. No way in hell is she, an ambassador, responsible for the Secretary of State's lies/extreme gullibility. But really, I mean lies.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 08:58 AM (u8eBQ)

67 So that's two major Obama scandals that have body counts. I wish we had a curious media. Sigh.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at October 10, 2012 08:58 AM (X/+QT)

68 Ambassadors? Hell, we got a bunch of those.

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 10, 2012 08:59 AM (QKKT0)

69 "Bubba will eat his face."

Remember the good ole days when Bubba would jog to McDonalds in the AM? Now Mrs. O'Bumbles would be at the door waving the calorie counts and barring entrance. What's the calorie count of O'Bumble's face?

Posted by: dfbaskwill at October 10, 2012 08:59 AM (71LDo)

70 ABC, NBC, CBS, and CNN are all off the reservation now.

NYT still holding firm.

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 10, 2012 08:59 AM (BjOUT)

71 Because of course liberals also falsely blemished the reputation of firms like Blackwater/XE who did this thankless job expertly for years.

In the process, they saved lives, put themselves in danger and sometimes paid with their lives.

Then Mr. Obama replaced them with "shopkeepers" who sold out to AQ for better pay.

But let's all fallaciously smear people for political purposes and then when the affect is evident, lie our asses off and try to blame everyone else except ourselves. It's the Obama way.

These murders are on the hands of President Obama. It's his administration last time I checked. For years he has spouted this tripe and now its contra-intellectual stupidity is there for all to see.

Mr. Obama should be ashamed, contrite and offering his resignation. Instead he's doubled-down on blaming other, lied and tried to distract people with shiny objects. It is a despicable betrayal and needs to end in November.

Posted by: marcus at October 10, 2012 09:00 AM (GGCsk)

72 It's the typical Democrat problem. They think they can just avoid the problem and it will go away. you left out: and blame someone else

Posted by: cicero skip at October 10, 2012 09:00 AM (3m9Uc)

73 The assumption that Ann Althouse is in any way relevant would be a false one.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 10, 2012 12:58 PM (SY2Kh)

Exactly; I think she just tosses out dumbfuck comments to get people talking about her on something other than how fat her ass is.

Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at October 10, 2012 09:00 AM (AkT7x)

74 Charles Johnson with smaller tits.

-----

**snort**

THIS is why I keep coming back. Witty repartee...

Posted by: fixerupper at October 10, 2012 09:00 AM (C8hzL)

75 54 Nordstrom is "proud" of how he and his guards performed. Proud is not the word I would have chosen. --- I think that Rummy's comment about "the army you have" will apply here. State fucked them hard on security, so getting out of this with "only" four dead and the buildings sacked is better than what you'd expect, even if the ambassador was one of the four.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 10, 2012 09:00 AM (e0xKF)

76 Random:
That information was out a week ago. It appeared on Instapundit itself on the same day as 'The Tape'. And it appears in Althouse's own comment section of the day.

She's using "Appeal to Authority". That is: Random Commenter says "2+2=4" - that's just hearsay. But when a Recognized, Credentialed, Mathematical Expert says it ... wow. It must be true.

We've heard it. We've read it. It might be news to liberals that he's a race-baiting huckster. But it's dog-bites-man here.

Posted by: Al at October 10, 2012 09:00 AM (MzQOZ)

77 Can't watch either. Too infuriating. So if they never claimed it was because of the pathetic trailer, who did decide to use that? And if it wasn't the video,is the American citizen that Barry blamed still in jail?

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 09:01 AM (9+ccr)

78 We were going to hire the ~~Judean~~ Libyan People's Front crack suicide squad but they wanted too much money and some goats.

Posted by: hillary clinton at October 10, 2012 09:01 AM (vDl/w)

79 Then Mr. Obama replaced them with "shopkeepers" who sold out to AQ for better pay. --- They may not have even gotten that much. They may have done it as a "fuck you" to State for not paying them what was promised.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 10, 2012 09:01 AM (e0xKF)

80 NYT features some Lance Armstrong doping story over this one.

The water buckets gotta be getting pretty heavy at this point...

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 10, 2012 09:01 AM (BjOUT)

Been watching this.

If I'm understanding this right...

Amb. Stevens ended up in that consulate house...as a result of security being so bad in the other locations.

There had been bombings, etc...at the other sites.

It's like he was herded into that location...for the slaughter on 9/11.

Posted by: wheatie at October 10, 2012 09:01 AM (l5RhJ)

82 i am getting sick. showing what they are showing is idiotic. I hate them. this is Traitorous.

Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at October 10, 2012 09:02 AM (r7Ddb)

83 Nordstrom is "proud" of how he and his guards performed. Proud? Of course he is. It's the participation award culture. So the Ambassador of your country that you were supposed to be guarding gets raped and murdered, so what? You showed up and you meant really really well and that's what matters.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 10, 2012 09:02 AM (VtjlW)

84 State fucked them hard on security, so getting out of this with "only" four dead and the buildings sacked is better than what you'd expect, even if the ambassador was one of the four.

Except there's no 'getting out of this' here. The VIP is dead. Mission failed.

Posted by: EC at October 10, 2012 09:02 AM (GQ8sn)

85 Classified? I've already read this stuff in a Brit. publication.

Posted by: BignJames at October 10, 2012 09:02 AM (rlFQ+)

86 Who's pissing his pants over the picture?

Posted by: slatz at October 10, 2012 09:03 AM (mE0Rl)

87 wow, I just realized something Very Important to All Morons Everywhere: Lt Col Wood was previously a major. Which means he was, at one time, Major Wood. How cool is that.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 09:03 AM (jUytm)

88 >>Dare I ask how much the guy with his hand up Elmo's ass makes?

http://tinyurl.com/8n8g3p2

I don't know what his annual income is, but my guess is he earns more than that net worth figure might suggest.

Kevin Clash is also a Sesame Street producer, and produces other Elmo and puppet-related properties.

Posted by: Looking closely at October 10, 2012 09:03 AM (6Q9g2)

89 Then Mr. Obama replaced them with "shopkeepers" who sold out to AQ for better pay.

Our security budget was better spent on protecting Valerie Jarrett and shuttling her and her royal court around on Air Force jets.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 10, 2012 09:03 AM (QKKT0)

90 Bammy kept saying how Mitt wanted to give 2billion to the military "that they aren't even asking for" in the debate. Uhhh.. sounds like someone asked that they step up and spend a few bucks on national security

Posted by: Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain at October 10, 2012 09:04 AM (bj+Nc)

91 Rice is nothing. No way in hell is she, an ambassador, responsible for the Secretary of State's lies/extreme gullibility. But really, I mean lies. --- Rice's position on paper, as UN ambassador, doesn't reflect where she falls in the administration's power structure IMHO. She's in with Obama and Jarrett more than Hillary is, which means she may be the actual power at State while Cankles is a very ugly figurehead staring at Christina Agulera's tits.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 10, 2012 09:04 AM (e0xKF)

92 One other thing I probably should tell you, because if I don't they'll probably be saying this about me, too. We did get something, a gift, after the election. A man down in Texas heard Michelle on the radio mention the fact that our two youngsters would like to have a bird. And believe it or not, the day before we left on this campaign trip we got a message from Union Station in Baltimore, saying they had a package for us. We went down to get it. You know what it was? It was a bird in a crate that he'd sent all the way from Texas, yellow and white, spotted. And our little girl Malia, named it "Big Bird." And you know, the kids, like all kids, love the bird, and I just want to say this, right now, that regardless of what they say about it, we're gonna keep it.

Posted by: Obama's Checkers speech at October 10, 2012 09:04 AM (Hx5uv)

93 Which means he was, at one time, Major Wood.

In ROTC, we had a Major Woody.

Not lying.

Posted by: EC at October 10, 2012 09:04 AM (GQ8sn)

94 I am sure that General Dempsey, a despicable and dishonorable liar, will oblige Lt. Col. Wood with some very negative consequences.

Posted by: ejo at October 10, 2012 09:05 AM (GXvSO)

95
....somebody remind me again. How much did we spend on "green initiatives."

Posted by: fixerupper at October 10, 2012 09:05 AM (C8hzL)

The assumption that Ann Althouse is in any way relevant would be a false one.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 10, 2012 12:58 PM (SY2Kh)

Yeah she's fun for comment ripping as a complete idiot but don't need a post or anything devoted to her idiocy. Besides ace typically avoids blog war stuff except for when idiots fire the first salvo at him.

To paraphrase Wicket, Ann Althouse just isn't worth nutting on.

Posted by: buzzion - Free Kratos at October 10, 2012 09:05 AM (GULKT)

97 >>>The assumption that Ann Althouse is in any way relevant would be a false one. Posted by: Hollowpoint >>> Exactly; I think she just tosses out dumbfuck comments to get people talking about her on something other than how fat her ass is. Posted by: Captain Hate The assumption that you have enough functioning brain cells to see the critical point that (even in your view) Ann Althouse saw from THOMAS SOWELL's excellent article, which The Daily Caller overlooked, is a false one. I don't give a frig how much you dislike Althouse. Read the piece and think for yourself. It was mendacious of Obama, blatant and easily proven, and is politically beneficial to us now. Ace should post on it.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 09:05 AM (u8eBQ)

98 I'm guessing all that money spent on big bird could have bought some better security.

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 10, 2012 09:05 AM (BjOUT)

99 What pic are they fussing over? That aerial shot?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 10, 2012 09:05 AM (WAOCR)

100

I wouldn't talk so much about Althouse EOJ. I know what an Old Whore magnet you are, and you might just answer the doorbell and find her fat ass there to sob on your shoulder.

And no, I wouldn't laugh........heh

Posted by: maddogg at October 10, 2012 09:05 AM (OlN4e)

101 Did a Democrat Cocksucker on the committee just strongly object and claim they DONT want this information out cause it might be classified?

Has hell frozen over?

Posted by: Ashley Todd's Mirror Image B looks fine at October 10, 2012 09:05 AM (ovpNn)

102 There we are:
Official acknowledgement of mortar fire.

Posted by: Al at October 10, 2012 09:05 AM (MzQOZ)

103 Having named locals as security isn't the problem, having ONLY unarmed locals is.

Posted by: Jean at October 10, 2012 09:06 AM (tmzN0)

104 In ROTC, we had a Major Woody. It's the little things in life such as this that make it all worth it.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 09:06 AM (jUytm)

105

Who the fuck decided to cover this terrorist attack as a protest from a video ??

That's what is infuriating me ? WHO WTF ?

I realize the security failure is a big deal and could be chalked up to a mistake, but this coverup, willful misconduct !

Watergate didn't have a fucking body count. I am livid right now !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 10, 2012 09:06 AM (nTgAI)

106 103 Did a Democrat Cocksucker on the committee just strongly object and claim they DONT want this information out cause it might be classified? Has hell frozen over? --- It's a little closer to the scene in Liar Liar where Jim Carrey's objection comes out as "I object... because it will completely destroy my case!"

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 10, 2012 09:06 AM (e0xKF)

107 86 Classified? I've already read this stuff in a Brit. publication.

Posted by: BignJames at October 10, 2012 01:02 PM (rlFQ+)

Exactly. i think what hes trying to point out is that releasing all this is wrong. Its the wrongness and the context of the wrongness. Get it? this is his chance to let everyone know that the security breaches at ongoing at State

Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at October 10, 2012 09:06 AM (r7Ddb)

108 The meme that the Dems are pushing now is that the evil Republicans once voted to cut the budget for embassy security.

That was back in 1830 probably, but hey, it shows they just don't care.

Besides, you gotta lose an ambassador or two every now and them just to keep things interesting.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 10, 2012 09:07 AM (ccXZP)

109 Watergate didn't have a fucking body count. I am livid right now !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 10, 2012 01:06 PM (nTgAI)

I'm in a constant state of lividness...

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 09:07 AM (9+ccr)

110

"So the Ambassador of your country that you were supposed to be guarding gets raped"

Wait, what? They raped him?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 10, 2012 09:07 AM (TpXEI)

111 104 Hopefully mentioned as "accurate" mortar fire.

Posted by: Honey Badger at October 10, 2012 09:07 AM (GvYeG)

112 WHAT ABOUT ROMNEY'S GAFFES???

Posted by: Andrea Mitchell Crack Investigative Reporter and Obama Cocksucker at October 10, 2012 09:07 AM (ovpNn)

113 95, we had Col. Dick

Posted by: Jean at October 10, 2012 09:07 AM (tmzN0)

114 105Having named locals as security isn't the problem, having ONLY unarmed locals is.

Posted by: Jean at October 10, 2012 01:06 PM (tmzN0)

Are you crazy? If I was forced to take those guys for security, would I want them armed? Not fukkin likely.

Posted by: maddogg at October 10, 2012 09:07 AM (OlN4e)

115 Person inside Big Bird suit makes $314K year, roughly $1,000/day, M-F.

Security for U.S. consulate makes $30/day.

Despite the pay, Big Bird probably wouldn't have saved Ambassador Stevens either. Visibility out of that chicken suit is for shit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 10, 2012 09:07 AM (QKKT0)

116 Security at Benihana? What's the problem?

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 10, 2012 09:07 AM (wIgpo)

117 105 Having named locals as security isn't the problem, having ONLY unarmed locals is. --- Having locals who have been stiffed on their pay by State is pretty damn bad. They created this situation by actively fucking things up for the people on the ground.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 10, 2012 09:08 AM (e0xKF)

118 they DONT want this information out cause it might be classified?

My pocket translation guide for Obama administration statements says: Classified==Embarrassing.

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 10, 2012 09:08 AM (BjOUT)

119 101 What pic are they fussing over? That aerial shot?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 10, 2012 01:05 PM (WAOCR)

Yes....the pic that someone put up behind Lamp.

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 09:08 AM (X6akg)

120 @113 That was my impression, but it was only a line or two and I can't quote directly.

Posted by: Al at October 10, 2012 09:08 AM (MzQOZ)

121 Didn't Nordstrom say he left Tripoli/his job changed in July '12? Are most of these people state dept. douche bags?

Posted by: joanne at October 10, 2012 09:08 AM (VNFBf)

122 Lamp=Lamb

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 09:08 AM (X6akg)

123 we had Col. Dick come back to us when he gets promoted to general

Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 09:08 AM (jUytm)

124 Mr. President. What did you know and when did you know it?

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 09:08 AM (9+ccr)

125 >>>Yeah she's fun for comment ripping as a complete idiot but don't need a post or anything devoted to her idiocy. Besides ace typically avoids blog war stuff.... It is NOT blog war stuff. Can you get out of your head for a moment, put your assumptions aside, and think about the issue. This was written about initially by Thomas Sowell, incidentally. Thomas Sowell does not equal Ann Althouse. The point is not only did Obama adopt the fake black dialect and pander, which I didn't think was a big deal, he then went on to blame Republicans for not giving a damn about blacks because they supported a policy ... that Barack Obama himself voted for. The lie is the point, and it can be easily proven. It's a big political deal, if we're smart enough to make it so. Plus, it was disgusting of Obama. Althouse is right about that.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 09:09 AM (u8eBQ)

126 Wait, what? They raped him? There have been multiple reports that he was raped. I do not believe I've seen that reported about the other three who were killed though I may have simply missed it.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 10, 2012 09:09 AM (VtjlW)

127

Amb. Kennedy: Rice didn't lie, she had the same info we had at the time. Honest!

Posted by: Wisrich at October 10, 2012 09:09 AM (hdpay)

128 Coexisting means ~~never having to pay your security guards~~ having to apologize to them for killing us over and over again.

Posted by: Obama's Checkers speech at October 10, 2012 09:09 AM (Hx5uv)

129

Laura Ingram pointing out that Obama and Clinton are taking the day off today to discuss this and contrasting that with the fact that Obama went fundraising the day after he murders. Her guess is that they will be coordinating their stories.

That in my mind, will take a lot more than a day.

Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 09:09 AM (jx2j9)

130 Mr. President. What did you know and when did you know it?

----

Well.... IMHO.... he doesnt know shit. Been that way his entire life.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 10, 2012 09:09 AM (C8hzL)

131 This Kennedy guy is doing some serious obsfucating.

Posted by: BignJames at October 10, 2012 09:10 AM (rlFQ+)

132 "This was written about initially by Thomas Sowell, incidentally. Thomas Sowell does not equal Ann Althouse.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 01:09 PM (u8eBQ) "

Then it may be more productive to refer people to the Thomas Sowell article, not Ann Althouse.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 10, 2012 09:10 AM (TpXEI)

133

I'd like to see the Obama Administration try to blame this on Hillary. Hillary still has the 2016 presidential elections in her sights and I doubt she's going to jeopardize that by becoming Obama's scapegoat.

I'm sure she has an ace up her sleeve somewhere. Being married to Slick Willie all these years did teach her a thing or two. Outside of Bill's extracurricular use of cigars that is.

Posted by: MacGruber at October 10, 2012 09:10 AM (xvtYZ)

134 Still want to see the transcripts of calls during the attack, and messages sent.

Posted by: Jean at October 10, 2012 09:10 AM (tmzN0)

135 I like Lamp.

Posted by: Brick at October 10, 2012 09:10 AM (WAOCR)

136 132 Mr. President. What did you know and when did you know it? ---- Well.... IMHO.... he doesnt know shit. Been that way his entire life. --- And yet he'll still go up to everyone who works for him and talk about how much better he can do his job than they can.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 10, 2012 09:10 AM (e0xKF)

137 This one has Kevin Clash ("Elmo") at a net worth of $12mm. I have no idea how they come up with these estimates, but I bet this one is closer to the mark:

http://tinyurl.com/943tbfe

His salary isn't public knowledge, but Clash does earn royalties on the sale of Elmo merchandise, which I'd image are fairly substantial.

Posted by: Looking closely at October 10, 2012 09:11 AM (PwGfd)

138 There have been multiple reports that he was raped. I do not believe I've seen that reported about the other three who were killed though I may have simply missed it.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 10, 2012 01:09 PM (VtjlW)

The fact that he died such a horable death (if true) makes the fundraising trip all the more ghoulish, imo.

Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 09:11 AM (jx2j9)

139 137 I like Lamp. --- Do you really like Lamp or are you just saying that?

Posted by: Ron at October 10, 2012 09:11 AM (e0xKF)

140 Ace doesn't even have to mention Althouse. Sowell wrote the piece Althouse cited. It's Obama's blatant lie/pandering, in conjunction, that's the big deal, and his fake black accent just adds to the story, in context.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 09:11 AM (u8eBQ)

141 Hillary's Fault!

Hillary has a bush.

Therefore Bush made her do it and the ultimate responsibility lies with BUSH!

Posted by: Barack Hussein Ali Babba Obama at October 10, 2012 09:11 AM (ovpNn)

142 @127: The part you're missing is that Ace won't touch it because he doesn't trust the commenters on anything even remotely racialist.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 10, 2012 09:11 AM (B/VB5)

143 I don't give a frig how much you dislike Althouse. Read the piece and think for yourself.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 01:05 PM (u8eBQ)

Telling me to think for myself when you're marvelling at how Althouse needs the dots connected is pretty fucking rich, Junior.

Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at October 10, 2012 09:11 AM (AkT7x)

144 Nordstrom can be proud. Sure he can.

Just like that Canadian UN commander was proud for trying to get to an unarmed UN OP in Africa. The OP went off the air, the UN commander had to negotiate with contract Russian helicopter pilots for transport, and when he finally got there. Well both UN observers were dead and one was partially eaten. But he was proud of doing his duty.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 10, 2012 09:12 AM (a0qpy)

145 The Libyan guards were unarmed? Just keeps getting worse and worse.

Posted by: Adam at October 10, 2012 09:12 AM (tiTj5)

146 Fuck Althouse who the hell cares about her?

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 09:12 AM (9+ccr)

147 143 Hillary's Fault! Hillary has a bush. Therefore Bush made her do it and the ultimate responsibility lies with BUSH! --- HOW DARE YOU! I do NOT have a bush! Just ask Huma!

Posted by: Shrillary at October 10, 2012 09:12 AM (e0xKF)

148 86
Classified? I've already read this stuff in a Brit. publication.

Posted by: BignJames at October 10, 2012 01:02 PM (rlFQ+)

Exactly. i think what hes trying to point out is that releasing all this is wrong. Its the wrongness and the context of the wrongness. Get it? this is his chance to let everyone know that the security breaches at ongoing at State

Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at October 10, 2012 01:06 PM (r7Ddb)

Daywalker alert

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 10, 2012 09:12 AM (nTgAI)

149

This Kennedy guy is a blowhard.

Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 09:12 AM (jx2j9)

150 ==>There have been multiple reports that he was raped.

They performed an autopsy, which would determine that, but never announced the results that I saw.

Posted by: slatz at October 10, 2012 09:13 AM (mE0Rl)

151 EC, 1:04 - "In ROTC, we had a Major Woody." See, we never had that in Basic Training. Some guys were convinced the Army was spiking the Powerade in the DFAC....

Posted by: JPS at October 10, 2012 09:13 AM (kpTee)

152 Her guess is that they will be coordinating their stories. That in my mind, will take a lot more than a day.

Too late for that. This is just Bill dictating to Obama who's neck the ax needs to drop on to protect Hillary.

It will be a short, blunt, conversation with Bill doing all the talking.

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 10, 2012 09:13 AM (BjOUT)

153

Mssachusetts U.S. Senate debate tonight, live at 7:00pm ET.

Posted by: joanne at October 10, 2012 09:13 AM (VNFBf)

154 This Kennedy guy is a blowhard. --- That may be genetic. Is he part of THE Kennedy clan?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 10, 2012 09:13 AM (e0xKF)

155 Stiffing guards for $30/day while fundraising for yourself? Sounds more like the George Obama Brigade.

Posted by: t-bird at October 10, 2012 09:14 AM (FcR7P)

156 They performed an autopsy, which would determine that, but never announced the results that I saw.

Posted by: slatz at October 10, 2012 01:13 PM (mE0Rl)

And you never will. They were too busy telling us that they were rushing the Ambassador to the hospital... By dragging his body through the streets. Wonderful Libyans...

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 09:14 AM (9+ccr)

157 5 How can we spend time on hearings about Benghazi when Big Bird's survival still hangs in the balance? -------------------------- Et tu, Cicero?

Posted by: Big Bird at October 10, 2012 09:15 AM (4TBK2)

158 Has anybody answered why Stevens found the need to leave the relative safety of Tripoli and go to Benghazi on the anniversary of 9-11?

Or am I the only one who finds it a bit strange?

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at October 10, 2012 09:15 AM (Qxdfp)

159 This was written about initially by Thomas Sowell, incidentally. Thomas Sowell does not equal Ann Althouse. I beg your pardon, but the common usage of X does not equal Y is to make the point that X is lesser than Y. There has not been, there is not now and there will never be a universe in which Thomas Sowell is lesser than Ann Althouse. Not in this universe. Not in the Multiverse. Now, strike what you said and reverse it and it is an utter truth.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 10, 2012 09:15 AM (VtjlW)

160 Mssachusetts U.S. Senate debate tonight, live at 7:00pm ET.

The Beantown Smackdown.

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 10, 2012 09:15 AM (BjOUT)

161 Democrats are getting pissy early in this hearing.

LET THE BLOOD FLOW

Posted by: Justice for Chris Stevens at October 10, 2012 09:15 AM (ovpNn)

162 "There have been multiple reports that he was raped. I do not believe I've seen that reported about the other three who were killed though I may have simply missed it.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 10, 2012 01:09 PM (VtjlW) "

Jesus...

In a just world, Benghazi would be a smoldering crater and half the state department would be in jail or fired.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 10, 2012 09:16 AM (TpXEI)

163

Issa taking it to Kennedy.

Posted by: Wisrich at October 10, 2012 09:16 AM (hdpay)

164 Well, you wingnutz can kiss my ring.

http://tinyurl.com/99ab5sd

Posted by: Kinga Baracka Husseina Obama at October 10, 2012 09:16 AM (0It32)

165 In a just world, Benghazi would be a smoldering crater and half the state department would be in jail or fired.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 10, 2012 01:16 PM (TpXEI)

And obama would be impeached...

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 09:16 AM (9+ccr)

166 OT: RealClearPolitics moves Pennsylvania frm "Leans Dem" to "Tossup." Expected to do the same with Michigan later today or tomorrow.

Posted by: rockmom at October 10, 2012 09:17 AM (qE3AR)

167 >>>This Kennedy guy is a blowhard. Yes, but not a total idiot. He's the guy who briefed Congress members on September 12 that it was a terrorist attack. Then his Sec State spends a week saying it's about a YouTube video protest? Sheesh.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 09:17 AM (u8eBQ)

168 Issa just paraphrased my previous comment about Kennedy being a blowhard.

Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 09:17 AM (jx2j9)

169 This is going to percolate right into the Foreign Policy Debate.

Romney is in deep shit.

He isnt going to know what to go after cause there is so much

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 10, 2012 09:17 AM (ovpNn)

170 163 Democrats are getting pissy early in this hearing. LET THE BLOOD FLOW ---------------------------------- You should have seen them at the Waco hearings.

Posted by: Nukie at October 10, 2012 09:17 AM (4TBK2)

171 Who would you bet on?

My money is on Bill. He's been at the treachery game longer than Obama.

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 10, 2012 09:17 AM (BjOUT)

172 Maybe it's me, but I'd be a bit suspicious of a Muslim group named the "17th of February Martyrs Brigade". Call me crazy.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 10, 2012 09:18 AM (YmPwQ)

173 Ace doesn't even have to mention Althouse. Sowell wrote the piece Althouse cited.Posted by: Random

Ace doesn't have to do a damned thing, the least of which after your needling.

Take a hint, sport.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 10, 2012 09:18 AM (bCaR9)

174 >>In a just world, Benghazi would be a smoldering crater and half the state department would be in jail or fired. It gets worse. When Stevens was found by the jihadists, the reporting so far is that he was already dead meaning that any rape took place after death.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2012 09:18 AM (TMB3S)

175

The POTUS absolute first responsibility is to provide protection for American personal overseas, Barky mailed it in and let a weak foreign government handle his responsibility.in a just world obama would be impeached for that

Posted by: kj at October 10, 2012 09:18 AM (9g/ZD)

176 152 >> They performed an autopsy, which would determine that, but never announced the results that I saw.

slatz,

We never will hear the results of that autopsy either. It doesn't take 3 weeks to release an autopsy unless there is something to hide.

It would be interesting if Issa's committee asked about it though.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 10, 2012 09:18 AM (ccXZP)

177

Kennedy: I'm not going to release documents even though I released some of them already because I think in total they would be classified.. and embarassing.

*My head is spinning.

Posted by: Wisrich at October 10, 2012 09:18 AM (hdpay)

178 @debraburlingame State Dept. witness: Benghazi security plan for imminent attack: Run. Run really fast.

Posted by: rockmom at October 10, 2012 09:18 AM (NYnoe)

179 It's Obama's blatant lie/pandering, in conjunction, that's the big deal, and his fake black accent just adds to the story, in context.

Yes, that is new and exciting news.

Posted by: Last Week at October 10, 2012 09:19 AM (SY2Kh)

180 SalenaZito @SalenaZitoTrib Pennsyltucky --> @Real Clear Politics moves Pennsylvania to "toss up" status. realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/pr

Posted by: Evilpens at October 10, 2012 09:19 AM (ck76k)

181 The careerists are closing ranks and the administration is going to split. Who would you bet on? Bill. Hands down. He will smile, shake TFG's hand, smile at him and stick that shiv right between his ribs. Without breaking a sweat or batting an eye.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 10, 2012 09:19 AM (VtjlW)

182 Issa's shoulder is blocking the view of his babe-aide.

Posted by: Waterhouse at October 10, 2012 09:19 AM (POGCP)

183 STOP! What happened to the chicken in the sidebar??

Posted by: Redd at October 10, 2012 09:19 AM (guxHP)

184 Lamb looks like a dear in the headlights right now under Issa's questioning.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 09:20 AM (u8eBQ)

185 So is any of this being mentioned on the msm today?

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 09:20 AM (9+ccr)

186 Telling me to think for myself when you're marvelling at how Althouse needs the dots connected is pretty fucking rich, Junior.

Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at October 10, 2012 01:11 PM (AkT7x)<<<<

I'm guessing Random is really her husband "Meade."

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 10, 2012 09:20 AM (jCyfP)

187 Issa is slaughtering a Lamb.

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 09:20 AM (X6akg)

188 It's the little things in life such as this that make it all worth it.

He told us to just call him Major.

Posted by: EC at October 10, 2012 09:20 AM (GQ8sn)

189 Lamb's gonna get slaughtered.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 10, 2012 09:20 AM (C8hzL)

190 How many actual American security personnel did the ambassador have? I have heard that two of the guys killed with him just happened to be there at the time and defended him. Was his driver the only security? Or even that?

Posted by: toby928© at October 10, 2012 09:20 AM (QupBk)

191 LTC Woods: ..the Ambassador struggled with renewing the SST beyond April 5th--that's Ambassador Stevens. [...] In April there was only one US diplomatic security agent stationed there. (Benghazi) [...] We need to be dedicated to understanding the problems that surrounded this attack in order to find a solution. Our failure to do so will result in repeated instances that allow our adversaries to take an advantage over us. My purpose in conveying this information is to prevent their ability to take the life of another ambassador--or kill another valuable and talented public servant working for the diplomatic service of their country.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 09:21 AM (r2PLg)

192

LAMB: "There was no justification" for the request for more security.

Posted by: CJ at October 10, 2012 09:21 AM (9KqcB)

193 My money is on Bill. He's been at the treachery game longer than Obama.

---

And Bill has a triple digit IQ whereas Obama couldn't spell IQ.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 10, 2012 09:21 AM (Hx5uv)

194 SalenaZito @SalenaZitoTrib @npghprogressive you mean this of course. This race will be won or lost in johnstown (turnout) so makes sense for Critz pic.twitter.com/85k3rNGv This is a Critz sign NOTICE what word is MISSING !?

Posted by: Evilpens at October 10, 2012 09:21 AM (ck76k)

195 Wait, what? They raped him?>>

It only looks that way because they were pushing him to the hospital on their dicks.

Stolen joke

Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 10, 2012 09:21 AM (tf9Ne)

196 Kennedy is the guy State brings in when things have gone clusterfuck to try and make it better quickly.

Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at October 10, 2012 09:21 AM (AkT7x)

197 If I see or hear the word unprecedented used to describe the Benghazi terrorist attack, I'm going to lose it. It's almost like terrorism is a new concept. I guess the current admin. has never heard of the Iranian Hostage Crisis or the bombings of the Kenyan and Tanzanian embassies. Who could know that a country in the midst of a civil war would be a risk for terrorist attacks against high profile American targets? Someone needs to use the clue bat and let State know that "unprecedented" is not a synonym for "unforeseeable."

Posted by: no good deed at October 10, 2012 09:21 AM (mjR67)

198 190 Issa is slaughtering a Lamb.
Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 01:20 PM (X6a

And there's your scape goat.. lamb..

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 09:21 AM (9+ccr)

199
What happened to the chicken in the sidebar??

The puddle has already dried into a scale.

Posted by: EC at October 10, 2012 09:21 AM (GQ8sn)

200 Did Issa say "Whistleblower"?

Posted by: Othered at October 10, 2012 09:21 AM (EuW9O)

201 This Lamb woman doesn't seem too bright.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 10, 2012 09:22 AM (WAOCR)

202 "It gets worse. When Stevens was found by the jihadists, the reporting so far is that he was already dead meaning that any rape took place after death.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2012 01:18 PM (TMB3S) "

Believe it or not, I would be glad if at least he didn't have to live through that before they killed him.

My kingdom for a Charles Martel...

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 10, 2012 09:22 AM (TpXEI)

203 My money is on Bill. He's been at the treachery game longer than Obama.

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 10, 2012 01:17 PM (BjOUT)

I hope they both lose.

Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at October 10, 2012 09:22 AM (AkT7x)

204 Ms. Lamb is pathetic.

Posted by: Wisrich at October 10, 2012 09:22 AM (hdpay)

205 Correct # of assets in place? Don't think so.

Posted by: BignJames at October 10, 2012 09:22 AM (rlFQ+)

206 >>>Well, Lamb's gone. Her testimony was just a disaster. Her leadership and decision-making weren't much better, I'm sure.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 09:22 AM (u8eBQ)

207 Wait, what? They raped him?

I do not believe that someone actually raped him anally. No one dropped trou and fucked him in the ass with their dick.

What I think happened is that someone jammed a stick or something up his ass as a victory move, like they did with Khadaffi after the mob capped him in the head.

Posted by: EC at October 10, 2012 09:23 AM (GQ8sn)

208 I hope they both lose.

Yep, I root for career ending injury.

Posted by: toby928© at October 10, 2012 09:23 AM (QupBk)

209 CUMMINGS CANT READ

Posted by: Snoop Dogg's Index Finger at October 10, 2012 09:23 AM (Mj4Zt)

210 I would think it would be easier to anally rape someone after they were dead, but the mess? Yuk.

Posted by: Othered at October 10, 2012 09:23 AM (EuW9O)

211 Issa: "Ms. Lamb to say the you had the correct number of security assets in Benghazi when 4 Americans are dead and many in the hospital doesn't ring true to the American people."

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 09:23 AM (X6akg)

212 214 I would think it would be easier to anally rape someone after they were dead, but the mess? Yuk.

Posted by: Othered at October 10, 2012 01:23 PM (EuW9O)

We'll never know what happened...

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 09:24 AM (9+ccr)

213 186 STOP! What happened to the chicken in the sidebar?? Posted by: Redd at October 10, 2012 01:19 PM (guxHP) RAFI: Â“ItÂ’s like a white rain of 1,000 loads.Â”

Posted by: RWC at October 10, 2012 09:24 AM (fWAjv)

214 is cummings drunk?

Posted by: Snoop Dogg's Index Finger at October 10, 2012 09:24 AM (Mj4Zt)

215 I wonder what Basil Marceaux dot com thinks about all this...

Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 09:24 AM (jUytm)

216

Alex, in the U.K. Daily Mail: Death of U.S. Ambassador ... tells the story.

http://tinyurl.com/9h5krgn

Posted by: joanne at October 10, 2012 09:25 AM (VNFBf)

217 My kingdom for aCharles Martel...

-----

Battle of Toures. Turned back the Arab invasion into Europe. 400 some years before the first Crusade.

Item #23,985,565 of things you wont learn in Public School.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 10, 2012 09:25 AM (C8hzL)

218 This Lamb woman doesn't seem too bright.

And Jamie Gorelick is a spectacular success story in the world of government policy-making. Does that put things in perspective?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 10, 2012 09:25 AM (QKKT0)

219

167 Well, you wingnutz can kiss my ring.

http://tinyurl.com/99ab5sd

Posted by: Kinga Baracka Husseina Obama at October 10, 2012 01:16 PM (0It32)

------------

Maybe Madonna knew about him wearing this muslim ring since the 80's....

And that's why she said "We have a black muslim in the White House!"...?

Posted by: wheatie at October 10, 2012 09:25 AM (l5RhJ)

220 Sounds like Cummings is trying to make Nordstrom the patsy

Posted by: BignJames at October 10, 2012 09:25 AM (rlFQ+)

221 160. I heard he was there for an oil meeting, whoever setup that meeting from the towelhead side would be high on my hellfire list.

Posted by: Jean at October 10, 2012 09:25 AM (tmzN0)

222 I can't believe I am going to step in and defend Ann Althouse, but here goes...

Most things in life are contextual. On the UW--Madison campus, she would be considered the most extreme of right wingers. In fact, just a week or two ago, she put herself on the firing line by formally complaining to the administration about using the campus (specifically Bascom Hill) for the purposes of an Obama campaign rally where participants had to give their contact information to the Obama campaign to get a ticket.

I certainly don't agree with many (most) things she says, but I have to give her credit for that.

And I have never seen the size of her ass.

Posted by: Scanner Dan at October 10, 2012 09:26 AM (VZ1LJ)

223 Here comes the Cummings cover.

Posted by: concrete girl at October 10, 2012 09:26 AM (y2Ojs)

224 Where. The. Hell. Is. Our. John. Dean?

Posted by: Meremortal at October 10, 2012 09:26 AM (1Y+hH)

225 I do not believe that someone actually raped him anally. No one dropped trou and fucked him in the ass with their dick.

What I think happened is that someone jammed a stick or something up his ass as a victory move, like they did with Khadaffi after the mob capped him in the head.

Posted by: EC at October 10, 2012 01:23 PM (GQ8sn)

Does it really matter?

I'm at work and can't watch. Please tell me we are raining death and destruction on these fuckwits at the hearing?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 09:26 AM (da5Wo)

226 Rep. Cummings did make one, about budget, at the beginning of this hearing. Specifically his claim (which I haven't independently verified) is that the GOP wanted to increase DOD's budget, but reduce State's budget, which reduces the amount State can budget for security. Well, that's a fair point and needs to be part of the investigation. Even within a restricted budget, I doubt they prioritized Benghazi security nearly enough. But of course I don't know how limited they were for resources. But if they were THAT tight, the security situation was bad, and there should have been no mission in Benghazi in the first place. So that's bad decision-making and prioritization, one way or the other. However, NOTHING excuses the incredibly lame coverup.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 09:26 AM (u8eBQ)

227 The Republicans proposed the cuts. They were never implemented as far as I know...

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 09:27 AM (9+ccr)

228 who's more of a RETARD !? Cummings or Lamb

Posted by: Evilpens at October 10, 2012 09:28 AM (ck76k)

229 I became a US citizen a few years ago, after leaving a shit hole of a Muslim country. But the one thing I had always admired (when living in the said shit hole Muslim country) was the almost impenetrable fortress that was the US embassy. And I always thought to myself, now here is a country that will take good care of its citizens abroad if shit hits the ceiling. Shaking my head in disbelief at the wretched incompetence of this administration to protect its citizens abroad.

Posted by: IC at October 10, 2012 09:28 AM (a0IVu)

230 232 who's more of a RETARD !? Cummings or Lamb

Posted by: Evilpens at October 10, 2012 01:28 PM (ck76k)

If they're Dems. it's a toss up...

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 09:28 AM (9+ccr)

231 222, or a Jan Sobieski

Posted by: Jean at October 10, 2012 09:28 AM (tmzN0)

232 Dan Burton !!! This will GET GOOD!!

Posted by: Evilpens at October 10, 2012 09:29 AM (ck76k)

233 Posted by: wheatie at October 10, 2012 01:25 PM (l5RhJ)

I think a lot of people have known about it and kept "surprisingly" silent.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at October 10, 2012 09:29 AM (0It32)

234 4-5? doesn't matter dipwad....insuffcient!

Posted by: BignJames at October 10, 2012 09:29 AM (rlFQ+)

235 Be nice if Rep. Issa said to Ms. Lamb, "Geez Ms. Lamb what a galloping Gertie of a clutter buck your testimony is. Four dead Americans and you still think Benghazi had adequate security in light of all the previous attacks and security warnings? Ms. Lamb there is a clear difference between being incompetent and being criminally stupid. You Ms. Lamb are criminally stupid and should be run out of Washington DC on a rail."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 10, 2012 09:29 AM (a0qpy)

236 "Does it really matter?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 01:26 PM (da5Wo) "

I would argue yes, it does.

To kill an Ambassador is horrible, but to torture and demean them sexually makes the crime (and the insult to his country) all the more monstrous. They did more than kill a man, they dishonored him.

This cannot be equated to any action by the US. It is bararism. It is demonic. It is purely evil.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 10, 2012 09:30 AM (TpXEI)

237 205 "It gets worse. When Stevens was found by the jihadists, the reporting so far is that he was already dead meaning that any rape took place after death.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2012 01:18 PM (TMB3S) "

Believe it or not, I would be glad ifat least he didn't have to live through that before they killed him.

My kingdom for aCharles Martel...

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 10, 2012 01:22 PM (TpXEI)

That is incorrect to my understanding. He was found still alive, raped repeatedly while being murdered then dragged through the streets the long way to the hospital.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 10, 2012 09:30 AM (ovpNn)

238 OT: (Linked on Hot Air)

Conceding that he failed to deliver at last weekÂ’s debate, President Obama says he was Â“just too politeÂ” and that voters should expect Â“a little more activityÂ” next week in round two.

. . . .

Â“WeÂ’ve got four weeks left in the election and weÂ’re going to take it to him,Â” Obama said.

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That's right, Barky. Get all angry black man up in Romney's face. That will destroy your unearned reputation for likeability once and for all. And confirm Ann Romney's characterization of you as a toddler who last a game in a sandbox kicking sand in the winner's face.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 10, 2012 09:30 AM (Hx5uv)

239 Really, in the end obama is just a worthless piece of marxist shit. He is a disgrace as CIC.

Posted by: Berserker at October 10, 2012 09:30 AM (FMbng)

240 . You Ms. Lamb are criminally stupid and should be run out of Washington DC on a rail."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 10, 2012 01:29 PM (a0qpy)

Which is probably what obama will do to take the heat off him and hillary..

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 09:30 AM (9+ccr)

241 233, did you move from Q8. I like that the embassy had a 500m kill zone AND a Patriot battery.

Posted by: Jean at October 10, 2012 09:30 AM (tmzN0)

242 Does it really matter?

No. What we have in the end is a defiled corpse of our ambassador. Hopefully he was not alive when they did it and did not suffer before death.

Posted by: EC at October 10, 2012 09:30 AM (GQ8sn)

243

>>I certainly don't agree with many (most) things she says, but I have to give her credit for that.

Well, that's interesting.

I can't figure out how someone who blogs about politics could be undecided at this point, so that leads to not wanting to bother with her blog at all.

I will look for the Sowell article cuz there's one piece of that I want to hear more about...the fact that Obama voted against something he then complained about...??

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 10, 2012 09:30 AM (SUKHu)

244
This cannot be equated to any action by the US.It is bararism. It is demonic. It is purely evil.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 10, 2012 01:30 PM (TpXEI)

You are dangerously close to Insulting the Prophet of Islam buddy.

Posted by: Barack Muhammad Hussein Obama at October 10, 2012 09:31 AM (ovpNn)

245 >>>Please tell me we are raining death and destruction on these fuckwits at the hearing? Some mid-level State Department manager, Charlene Lamb, deputy assistant secretary of state for international programs in the Bureau of Diplomatic Security, is performing terribly (her testimony pretty much shows that her own judgements leading up to this were awful). She'll be fired, I'm sure. She couldn't stand up to Issa in the slightest and looks like a dear in the headlights. Other than that, don't know. Oh -- and Lamb has never used the word "terrorist" once, as Rep Burton is now pointing out.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 09:31 AM (u8eBQ)

246 "Hillary has a bush."

That's for Huma to know, and you to guess.

Posted by: Mrs. Clinton at October 10, 2012 09:31 AM (71LDo)

247 >>That is incorrect to my understanding. He was found still alive, raped repeatedly while being murdered then dragged through the streets the long way to the hospital. Not according to the latest reporting that came out last night. They said he died in the building from smoke inhalation.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2012 09:31 AM (TMB3S)

248 Shaking my head in disbelief at the wretched incompetence of this administration to protect its citizens abroad.

Posted by: IC at October 10, 2012 01:28 PM (a0IVu)

It's a full-service clusterfuck of an administration, leaving nothing unimpaired whether by plan or sheer incompetence.

Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at October 10, 2012 09:31 AM (AkT7x)

249 Whats the point of having armed security personal when they arent allowed to have bullets in their guns?

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 10, 2012 09:32 AM (ovpNn)

250 She is getting Anally Fucked By Burton hahahahaha

Posted by: Evilpens at October 10, 2012 09:32 AM (ck76k)

251 Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 01:26 PM (da5Wo) I hope you're starting to feel better, you specialest snowflake you. Here's one of the many, many things I don't get about the cover up. If TFG, Hillary, etc. had gotten all righteously indignant and gone out there discussing how tragic it was that the joint security measures had failed and how they were now reviewing all security at all embassy and consulate sites and thrown up a few pictures of armed guards around somewhere, it would have been bullshit but it would have looked like they cared about the security and safety of United States personnel. That would have played well because the LIVs out there would have nodded and done the oh we were betrayed but look at how tough Obama is now thing. This response? This is just plain old amateur hour.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 10, 2012 09:32 AM (VtjlW)

252 #241 I thought the official story is that Stevens died of smoke inhalation after being trapped inside the safehouse. He may have been unconscious and not quite dead when he was found.

Posted by: rockmom at October 10, 2012 09:32 AM (qE3AR)

253 who's more of a RETARD !? Cummings or Lamb

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I'm going with the voters who elected Cummings.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 10, 2012 09:33 AM (Hx5uv)

254 232 who's more of a RETARD !? Cummings or Lamb Posted by: Evilpens at October 10, 2012 01:28 PM (ck76k) Yes.

Posted by: RWC at October 10, 2012 09:33 AM (fWAjv)

255 So Nordstrom says we do things the way Qaddafi wanted , and we don't use our security teams--or foreign security( something like that) because it will upset the locals. Also local gun laws...blah, blah. Here's a clue--the country of Libya was in turmoil. It wasn't-- SITUATION NORMAL. The rebels wanted drone attacks, attacks from the air of English and French--perhaps us--I am not sire--we might have done some of the command and control--and they wanted MONEY. 1.5 BILLION. Hello --for all that the "locals" can suck it up and "live" with "foreign" security teams--and/or personnel.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 09:33 AM (r2PLg)

256 Maybe they would have done some good in Benghazi if you had heeded the ambassador's request and sent him security you fucking cunt.

Posted by: Adam at October 10, 2012 09:33 AM (V6aL5)

257 I would argue yes, it does.

To killan Ambassadoris horrible, but to torture and demean them sexually makes the crime (and the insult tohis country)all the more monstrous. They did more than kill a man, they dishonored him.

This cannot be equated to any action by the US.It is bararism. It is demonic. It is purely evil.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 10, 2012 01:30 PM (TpXEI)

No shit. My point was does it really matter whether he was alive or dead when raped. It obv matters very much to the now deceased Amb Stevens and his family. But to us, it should have no bearing on our response. Either way, the Amb was murdered and defiled. In my book, that carries a death sentence.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 09:34 AM (da5Wo)

258 Who the fuck approved the hiring of ANY FUCKING GROUP that calls themselves "Martyrs"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 10, 2012 09:34 AM (iAUf+)

259 The smoke inhalation story came out the day after his death. If the autopsy is released to prove that then I agree. I just don't trust anything the administration says about this event. Even if he did die that way it certainly did look like they were dragging his corpse through the street..

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 09:34 AM (9+ccr)

260 "Benghazi security plan for imminent attack: Run. Run really fast."

Forgot rule 2: Zig and Zag.

Posted by: Benghazi Security Mensa at October 10, 2012 09:34 AM (71LDo)

261 I had recorded and am behind with Livestream.

All the Dems seem to have is the "budget cut!" excuse. Congressman Issa straightened them out about that one, as this was bipartisan. In fact, there was one more Dem vote than GOP supporting cuts to embassies and consulates.

The other yapping point is their stomping feet and screeching that "they did not have access to witnesses." And "they were not told of trip to Libya"...when the GOP guy called them on that one, and said, in fact, the State Dept appointed an attorney to follow him around in Libya.

Sic 'em, Congressman Issa.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at October 10, 2012 09:34 AM (baL2B)

262 Seeing on Twitter that Issa just threw the Perjury card out there!!

Posted by: rockmom at October 10, 2012 09:34 AM (NYnoe)

263 We thought that we had the situation under control, 10-4? Over.

Posted by: Mohammed Blart, Benghazi Mall Cop at October 10, 2012 09:34 AM (jucos)

264

235 222, or a Jan Sobieski

Or a Leelee Sobieski, for that matter

Posted by: tod von oben at October 10, 2012 09:34 AM (UaxA0)

265 251 >>That is incorrect to my understanding. He was found still alive, raped repeatedly while being murdered then dragged through the streets the long way to the hospital.

Not according to the latest reporting that came out last night. They said he died in the building from smoke inhalation.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2012 01:31 PM (TMB3S)

ORLY?

well by next week I am sure he will have died of natural causes and the protestors in grief were trying to give him a viking funeral which would explain the fire and smoke.

Do you believe anything these cocksuckers say anymore?

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 10, 2012 09:35 AM (ovpNn)

266 Posted by: WalrusRex at October 10, 2012 01:33 PM (Hx5uv) Well that is Obvious!

Posted by: Evilpens at October 10, 2012 09:36 AM (ck76k)

267 245, I moved from Malaysia. The embassy is a fortress with an outer no breach wall and about a 500m inside shoot zone before you even get to the next wall that protects the compound. There was a gas station next to the embassy that even prior to 9/11, President Bush decided was a potential security issue, so the embassy paid good money for it, bought it and closed down the area. At that time (President Bush's administration), only outside security was provided by the locals (completely untrustworthy), inner security was all marines. I am guessing it's all local security (read: cheaper) these days.

Posted by: IC at October 10, 2012 09:36 AM (a0IVu)

268 253, buffer. And when they fail to show up for work, its time to leave.

Posted by: Jean at October 10, 2012 09:36 AM (CofEF)

269 Just remember-Stevens was one of theirs. It's not like John Bolton got slaughtered in Libya (we know they would dance on his grave). They are pissing on the grave of someone who served them loyally and saw eye to eye with their stupid policies on Libya.

Posted by: ejo at October 10, 2012 09:36 AM (GXvSO)

270 Retard & Retarder Norton ?? ahaha

Posted by: Evilpens at October 10, 2012 09:36 AM (ck76k)

271 I can already see that this is going to be swept under the political rug. Nobody is going to lose their job, lose a dime, or lose any sleep in this administration. People are sacrificial pawns to this administration. I really feel for the families of the four Americans.

Hopefully it will swing enough votes in the right States against this lying feckless incompetent negligent administration to make a difference.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 10, 2012 09:36 AM (PHb2k)

272 ORLY?well by next week I am sure he will have died of natural causes and the protestors in grief were trying to give him a viking funeral which would explain the fire and smoke.
Do you believe anything these cocksuckers say anymore?

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 10, 2012 01:35 PM (ovpNn)

If the situation wasn't so sad that would be funny.. No criticism meant.. It's true though...

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 09:37 AM (9+ccr)

273 This response? This is just plain old amateur hour. It's worse than that. Al Qaeda is our enemy. It's official and everything. The only thing blame shifting from Al Qaeda to some video no one had ever heard of could reasonably accomplish is to stop the calls for retaliation before they began. Telling your enemy that you're on their side, and you're going to cover for them might be... comforting, mightn't it? Now, I don't want to trot out Treason!!!Eleventy! but I think it's important to note that the main people helped by this tactic are the terrorists who attacked us.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at October 10, 2012 09:37 AM (nUH8H)

274 stuttering bitch

Posted by: RWC at October 10, 2012 09:37 AM (fWAjv)

275 If all they have is budget cuts they're going down in flames.

Posted by: Adam at October 10, 2012 09:37 AM (V6aL5)

276 Norton's trying to point the finger and throw Rice under the bus.

Posted by: Al at October 10, 2012 09:37 AM (MzQOZ)

277 Zig zag? No, Sheldon. It's called serpentine. Serpentine, Shelley, serpentine!!

Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 09:37 AM (jUytm)

278 Or trying. Between the "uh uh uh"

Posted by: Al at October 10, 2012 09:37 AM (MzQOZ)

279 I hope you're starting to feel better, you specialest snowflake you.

Here's one of the many, many things I don't get about the cover up. If TFG, Hillary, etc. had gotten all righteously indignant and gone out there discussing how tragic it was that the joint security measures had failed and how they were now reviewing all security at all embassy and consulate sites and thrown up a few pictures of armed guards around somewhere, it would have been bullshit but it would have looked like they cared about the security and safety of United States personnel. That would have played well because the LIVs out there would have nodded and done the oh we were betrayed but look at how tough Obama is now thing.

This response? This is just plain old amateur hour.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 10, 2012 01:32 PM (VtjlW)

Thanks AtC. A little better. My grandfather (I work in a family business. And yes, WE DID FUCKING BUILD THIS. For going on 70+ years.) has some pain pills for when his back acts up. He gave me a couple to help me through the work day.

I think it goes beyond amateur hour. I think it's a matter of he simply doesn't care. Evidenced by the fact that he fucking went back to bed after receiving the call. I can get that you've been informed and there may not be much you can immediately do, but Mohammed on a pogo stick, how many of us could sleep after that phone call?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 09:37 AM (da5Wo)

280 Oh jeez....Holmes Norton.....the intellectuals have arrived.

Posted by: BignJames at October 10, 2012 09:38 AM (rlFQ+)

281 "Uh, and, uh, I just want, uh, to, uh, take, this time, uh, to, uh, clarify, uh..."

Posted by: Rep. Norton at October 10, 2012 09:38 AM (XAz1C)

282 Four dead Americans and you still think Benghazi had adequate security in light of all the previous attacks and security warnings?

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It's the new normal.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 10, 2012 09:38 AM (Hx5uv)

283 Well the Obama administration can try and limit the damage to Ms. Lamb. But there are four dead Americans thus she is a small fish. Time for Sec of State Clinton to fall on her sword and resign.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 10, 2012 09:38 AM (a0qpy)

284 alex, I think the security decisions leading up to this were so bad, and the timeline so damning, they didn't want the media investigating that for weeks. Plus, Hillary's responsible for that. So I think they decided to run out the clock, and brainstormed for an alternative explanation. With real, actual protests in Egypt which resulted in US territory being overun, they had their plausible cover story. They decided to use the fortuitously-timed for them YouTube video as the proximate cause. But Ambassador Kennedy, who is testifying today, briefed members of Congress on September 12th that it was a terrorist attack. Hillary always knew this was BS. Either she went along to cover her own ass, or was strong-armed by Obama to go along. In any case, either or both of them got Rice to do the speaking tour, advancing this line of BS, and Jay Carney did his bit, until he was pulled off about 16 days ago, and hasn't given a full press conference since. It looks like Obama and Hillary were NOT able to run out the clock. And this coverup was absurd. RPGs, mortars, witnesses to both, on September 11th? The fact they thought they could get away with this is almost as damning as the fact they are so unethical as to do it. But hey, they talk about how much they respected "Chris".

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 09:38 AM (u8eBQ)

285 273 Just remember-Stevens was one of theirs. It's not like John Bolton got slaughtered in Libya (we know they would dance on his grave). They are pissing on the grave of someone who served them loyally and saw eye to eye with their stupid policies on Libya. Posted by: ejo at October 10, 2012 01:36 PM (GXvSO) __________________ Actually Stevens started working in Libya--IIRC in 2007. Also from some write ups--granted the media--supposedly he was unusually neutral.--maybe with the qualifier--for State.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 09:38 AM (r2PLg)

286 Thank Heavens we arrested that film maker for making this happen when he abused free speech with blasphemy.

Posted by: Beto at October 10, 2012 09:38 AM (BAnPT)

287 OT? but read a story today that the Widow of the Seal that died that Romney said he met was contacted by ABC. Unfortunately it didn't go as well as they thought. She thanked Mitt, and said the one thing her Husband said he wanted over there when she asked him was a new President...

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 09:39 AM (9+ccr)

288 Oh, one correction. Rep Norton made the point about the State department's budget decreases allegedly wanted by the GOP vs. the desired DOD budget increasings, not Rep Cummings.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 09:39 AM (u8eBQ)

289 but Mohammed on a pogo stick, how many of us could sleep after that phone call?

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choom. Side effects of choom.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 10, 2012 09:39 AM (C8hzL)

290 I am guessing it's all local security (read: cheaper) these days.

Posted by: IC at October 10, 2012 01:36 PM (a0IVu)

Obama is Citizen of the World, why shouldnt he use local security?

Our Foreign Policy is doing just fine!

If you got dead ass raped ambassador, you didn't build that! Some one else made that happen.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 10, 2012 09:39 AM (ovpNn)

291

"Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 01:34 PM (da5Wo) "

There's two schools of thought on the question: one is that we need to accurately broadcast the atrocities of these savages do, and the other is we need to show decorum for the dead.

Think of the pictures of all the dead skeletal people at Auschwitz stacked like cordwood. A description of the gassings is nowhere near as powerful as that image.

I must admit, I found the picture of Stevens being dragged through the streets abhorrent. I didn't want to see that, but it will stay with me.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 10, 2012 09:39 AM (TpXEI)

292

Currently designing a pig shit-powered Koran Konfetti Kannon for embassy perimeter security.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 10, 2012 09:39 AM (jCyfP)

293 It's worse than that. Al Qaeda is our enemy. It's official and everything. The only thing blame shifting from Al Qaeda to some video no one had ever heard of could reasonably accomplish is to stop the calls for retaliation before they began.

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And Obama essentially blamed the US Constitution for the murders. That pesky first amendment!

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 10, 2012 09:40 AM (Hx5uv)

294 Breaks? What are breaks?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 09:40 AM (da5Wo)

295 http://tinyurl.com/9sd4cns I guess it's time to get involved in another shithole. Off to Jordan boys and girls!

Posted by: RWC at October 10, 2012 09:40 AM (fWAjv)

296 WTF did she just say about Romney!?!

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 09:40 AM (X6akg)

297 You know, it would be really difficult for a stutterer to be elected to anything. Remember that the Media did their best to hide the SCOAMT's stutter (or stammer, or whatever you want to call it). If someone who is normally at least of average eloquence is saying "uh, um, uh," that much, it means they're lying.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at October 10, 2012 09:40 AM (nUH8H)

298 Actually Stevens started working in Libya--IIRC in 2007.

It was obvious Obama was bored and bummed out with the Stevens funeral interrupting his party.

Posted by: Beto at October 10, 2012 09:41 AM (BAnPT)

299 What a scrunt, blame Romney.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2012 09:41 AM (TMB3S)

300

255....If TFG, Hillary, etc. had gotten all righteously indignant and gone out there discussing how tragic it was that the joint security measures had failed..... That would have played well ....

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 10, 2012 01:32 PM (VtjlW)

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Right.

But then....Barky wouldn't have been able to go before the UN and say that thing about..."slandering the prophet".

Remember...'never let a crisis go to waste'.

Barky likes the usefulness of the "slandering the prophet" angle.

Posted by: wheatie at October 10, 2012 09:41 AM (l5RhJ)

301 That's it Norton...get a dig in.

Posted by: RWC at October 10, 2012 09:41 AM (fWAjv)

302 hahahahahaha Norton is a Shortbus Window Licking RETARD!

Posted by: Evilpens at October 10, 2012 09:41 AM (ck76k)

303 Again Watergate didn't have a body count and I'm pretty sure there weren't any dead US Ambassadors. But I'm pretty sure Tehran did...

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at October 10, 2012 09:41 AM (nUH8H)

304 >>>Thank Heavens we arrested that film maker for making this happen He violated his parole conditions by using an alias to raise money for that video, despite his conviction for financial fraud using an alias. Look, if you draw worldwide attention to your parole violations, this doesn't give you a pass with prosecutors. His arrest was proper.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 09:42 AM (u8eBQ)

305 but Mohammed on a pogo stick, how many of us could sleep after that phone call?

What kind of bender were we on before we got the call?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 10, 2012 09:42 AM (/kI1Q)

306 I am a little unclear what Nordstrom is "proud" of.

He failed in the mission. And failed miserably.

Four people are dead including the VIP ambassador.

At the hands of enemy forces.

Embarrassed and contrite would be more like it.

Posted by: marcus at October 10, 2012 09:42 AM (GGCsk)

307 Wait, how are they bringing Romney into this at all (can't watch)?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at October 10, 2012 09:42 AM (nUH8H)

308 We all knew this "arab " spring thing was going to end up like this. Evidently obama believed his own hype that he could save the World and make the Middle East love us again. Of course that's giving him too much credit.How'd that turn out Barry?

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 09:42 AM (9+ccr)

309 God I hate these people. Obama is a joke in the Arab world. Counted the days until we came home from the ME. I hope Romney does a purge in DC the likes of which we have never seen. I want the his administration taking resumes from Sec of State all the way to the damn janitors. Start fresh and clean out the vipers.

Posted by: traumakitty at October 10, 2012 09:43 AM (c/Glr)

310 Posted by: Random Your reprieve has been rescinded. Get Back Under The Stairs. Now.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 09:43 AM (jUytm)

311

#273 That's all part of the coverup though. Stevens was a liberal appeaser who was sent to Libya specifically by Hillary to cozy up to the radicals that the Administration knew were likely to take over in Libya after Gaddhafi was gone. They opened a consulate in Benghazi as a peace overture and deliberately refused to fortify it in a naive attempt to demonstrate to the locals that we were peaceful and not expecting any trouble. Stevens' appearance there was supposed to be a sign of respect to the locals.

That's why it was so important for the Administration to blame this attack on the video. It would blame an idiot American -- and preferably a crazy right-wing American with ties to the Tea Party or the religious Right -- for messing up their thoughtful plans for winning over the Libyan radicals. Not their initial stupid policy of appeasement and weakness.

Posted by: rockmom at October 10, 2012 09:43 AM (NYnoe)

312 295 but Mohammed on a pogo stick, how many of us could sleep after that phone call?

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choom. Side effects of choom.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 10, 2012 01:39 PM (C8hzL)

Look, I'll be honest here. There were times in college where I was stoned off my ass. Or extremely drunk. And a phone call like that would have woken me up instantly.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 09:43 AM (da5Wo)

313 they don't even understand the RETARD Cummings ?

Posted by: Evilpens at October 10, 2012 09:43 AM (ck76k)

314 >>> I am a little unclear what Nordstrom is "proud" of. He failed in the mission. And failed miserably. Four people are dead including the VIP ambassador. At the hands of enemy forces. Embarrassed and contrite would be more like it. Posted by: marcus at October 10, 2012 01:42 PM Quite. And he's claiming his resources and strategy were basically adequate? What an ass.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 09:44 AM (u8eBQ)

315

So far, it looks like there was a conscious decision to project an image of an open and friendly United States to a country fresh out of a war, that everyone knew was infested with radical islamists, and that was crawling with military weaponry and that risking American lives to project that image was calculated as "worth it".

Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 09:44 AM (jx2j9)

316 Blaming Romney for his Cairo remarks? WTF?I thought it was the filmmakers fault...

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 09:44 AM (9+ccr)

317 But the one thing I had always admired (when living in the said shit hole Muslim country) was the almost impenetrable fortress that was the US embassy. Story you and other youngsters should hear. I can't vouch for the validity of it, but here goes. I heard it from someone pretty connected in politics in 1980. In 1979, when Jimmah Carter was President the Iranians overtook our embassy and held somewhere ~100 of our people hostage. Soon after, a mob began to form outside the Russian embassy. The ambassador was notified and he walked out into the street. He looked at his watch, and pronounced the time, then said, "In forty five minutes there could be no more Iran." He then turned and walked back into the embassy. The crowd disbursed.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 10, 2012 09:44 AM (feFL6)

318 And how much later was Obama selling the same video story to the UN?

Posted by: BignJames at October 10, 2012 09:45 AM (rlFQ+)

319 If Amb. Stevens went off the air about 9pm Benghazi time, that is about 5am Washington DC time. So this was never a middle of the night crisis for Obama.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 10, 2012 09:45 AM (a0qpy)

320 Bus. Never heard of it.

Posted by: Sophistahick at October 10, 2012 09:45 AM (UhXzR)

321 My resources and strategy at Little Big Horn were basically adequate.

Posted by: GA Custer at October 10, 2012 09:45 AM (nUH8H)

322 Currently designing a pig shit-powered Koran Konfetti Kannon for embassy perimeter security.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 10, 2012 01:39 PM (jCyfP)

I'd like to alter, not the design, but the implementation just slightly. I think the Kannon should be used to return the scum to their people after we capture them.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 09:45 AM (da5Wo)

323

232 who's more of a RETARD !? Cummings or Lamb

Posted by: Evilpens at October 10, 2012 01:28 PM (ck76k)

Random. Definitely Random.

Posted by: Is what JQ Public is thinking... at October 10, 2012 09:45 AM (NBj0d)

324 313 I am a little unclear what Nordstrom is "proud" of. He failed in the mission. And failed miserably. Four people are dead including the VIP ambassador. At the hands of enemy forces. Embarrassed and contrite would be more like it. Posted by: marcus at October 10, 2012 01:42 PM (GGCsk) __________________ Did he actually say this was a wake up call? Then he listed other wake up calls Beirut, the embassy bombings, 9/11... as separate instances--not a damn trend line? Not sure...I'll have to go look at a transcript later. Anone else remember or hear that?

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 09:45 AM (r2PLg)

325 Our strategy and resources in the Pacific were basically adequate.

Posted by: Imperial Japan at October 10, 2012 09:46 AM (nUH8H)

326 312. You arrest him later, not at the height of the crisis during which his arrest provides the appearance that their burning stuff trumps our 1st amendment. I'm sure he had a regularly scheduled parole hearing at which his shit could have been handled, instead of leaking a middle of the night perp walk to the LA Times.

Posted by: Jean at October 10, 2012 09:46 AM (CofEF)

327 325 At least two weeks

Posted by: Beto at October 10, 2012 09:46 AM (BAnPT)

328 Not only were the Libyan guards not American (and not being paid), they were also unarmed. ...untrained, unreliable, unsuited. Unprecedented!

Posted by: t-bird at October 10, 2012 09:46 AM (FcR7P)

329 Soon after, a mob began to form outside the Russian embassy. The ambassador was notified and he walked out into the street. He looked at his watch, and pronounced the time, then said, "In forty five minutes there could be no more Iran." He then turned and walked back into the embassy. The crowd disbursed.

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As emperor Tiberius said let them hate us so long as they fear us.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 10, 2012 09:46 AM (Hx5uv)

330 325 And how much later was Obama selling the same video story to the UN?

Posted by: BignJames at October 10, 2012 01:45 PM (rlFQ+)

Immediately, and they stuck to that story for nine days. My favorite part is obama coming out to the press saying a few words and getting on his fundraising plane to Vegas baby . But it's Romney's fault that the people died...

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 09:47 AM (9+ccr)

331 I shopped at Nordstrom's once. It's pretty pricey.

Posted by: Kevin at October 10, 2012 09:47 AM (ufexm)

332 "Look, if you draw worldwide attention to your parole violations, this doesn't give you a pass with prosecutors. His arrest was proper.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 01:42 PM (u8eBQ) "

Remember when Joe the Plumber was investigated by some functionary in Ohio who started dishing dirt on him?

We all thought that sucked. He was being investigated purely for speaking to the president.

This situation is no different. The government shouldn't have been investigating who made the video. It was 100% legal and not at all involved in this.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 10, 2012 09:47 AM (TpXEI)

333 Our strategy and resources at Agincourt were basically adequate.

Posted by: The French at October 10, 2012 09:47 AM (nUH8H)

334 326 If Amb. Stevens went off the air about 9pm Benghazi time, that is about 5am Washington DC time. So this was never a middle of the night crisis for Obama. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 10, 2012 01:45 PM (a0qpy) ________________ Reports are that Obama went to bed while the Ambassador was missing and did not stay up to find out what happened to him. He had to get his rest before fundraising and campaigning in Vegas.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 09:47 AM (r2PLg)

335 Is that basically what he's saying?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at October 10, 2012 09:47 AM (nUH8H)

336 >>>So far, it looks like there was a conscious decision to project an image of an open and friendly United States to a country fresh out of a war, thateveryone knew was infested with radical islamists, andthat was crawling with military weaponry and that risking American lives to project that image was calculated as "worth it". This.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 09:47 AM (u8eBQ)

337

Kennedy was the Assistant Secretary of State in the Clinton administration 1993-2001. In foreign service since 1973.

"During the U.S. Presidential election, 2008, Patrick F. Kennedy ordered State Department employees in Europe be barred from attending Sen. Barack Obama's speech in Berlin on July 24, 2008 to ensure they displayed political neutrality. Kennedy labeled Obama's visit as a partisan political activity and he forbade employees from attending."

Posted by: joanne at October 10, 2012 09:48 AM (VNFBf)

338 333 312. You arrest him later, not at the height of the crisis during which his arrest provides the appearance that their burning stuff trumps our 1st amendment. I'm sure he had a regularly scheduled parole hearing at which his shit could have been handled, instead of leaking a middle of the night perp walk to the LA Times.

Posted by: Jean at October 10, 2012 01:46 PM (CofEF)

Let me be clear, those 200 yer old documents need to be transformed fundamentally. Those white crackers couldnt possibly have foreseen the challenges of the modern world like I do.

Posted by: Barack Obama Washington Jefferson the ReFramer of the COnstitooshun at October 10, 2012 09:48 AM (ovpNn)

339 Nordstrom is "proud" of how he and his guards performed. If that made him proud, he must go out of his mind when he successfully hits the toilet bowl in the morning.

Posted by: t-bird at October 10, 2012 09:49 AM (FcR7P)

340

Dems, fearful of a Biden collapse after days of drinking and glue sniffing due to all of the pressure of tomorrow's debate, are preemptively attacking Ryan as a liar in advance of the slaughter tomorrow.

Color me skeptical about the odds of success.

Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 09:49 AM (jx2j9)

341 Ms Lamb looks like Tootsie. I dunno, but she does not instill a lot of confidence.

I can't stand that bald Cummings guy. Issa wants to smack him more than I do.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at October 10, 2012 09:49 AM (baL2B)

342 OT - Updated my Senate odds, link in my nic.

Summary: Odds Reid is no longer the Majority Leader next year = 87.5%

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 10, 2012 09:49 AM (98+n7)

343 345 Kennedy was the Assistant Secretary of State in the Clinton administration 1993-2001. In foreign service since 1973. "During the U.S. Presidential election, 2008, Patrick F. Kennedy ordered State Department employees in Europe be barred from attending Sen. Barack Obama's speech in Berlin on July 24, 2008 to ensure they displayed political neutrality. Kennedy labeled Obama's visit as a partisan political activity and he forbade employees from attending." Posted by: joanne at October 10, 2012 01:48 PM (VNFBf) __________________ Ya, we have to be really careful here. I would put my money on LTC Woods--I trust that guy--but that is instinct.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 09:49 AM (r2PLg)

344 >>>Remember when Joe the Plumber was investigated by some functionary in Ohio who started dishing dirt on him? Yes, but it isn't the same thing. He wasn't a convicted felon with parole conditions, which he violated, and created a publication as a partial product of his parole violation. What are the police or prosecutors who worked on his case supposed to do, just ignore it?

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 09:50 AM (u8eBQ)

345 Lamb's going under the bus.....as she should, sounds like.

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 09:50 AM (X6akg)

346

#288 I've been thinking that in the initial chaos of reports about the Benghazi attack, Hillary may have told Obama "don't worry, I've got this, it was connected to the protests over the video" and maybe at first she thought it was. By the time she found out it wasn't, the Preezy was already on his way to Vegas and she couldn't very well tell him to turn Air Force One around and come back to DC to deal with a terrorist attack, because that would have set off a Four Alarm Media Frenzy. She also couldn't very well tell him this was probably her fault because she turned down Stevens' request for more security.

I'm sure the political people at OFA were also telling Hillary to downplay the attack in the first day or so in order to make maximum hay out of Romney's supposed gaffe. None of them can admit that either.

I'm still trying to figure out why they sent Susan Rice on that Sunday suicide mission though. Everyone knew by then that it was a terrorist attack. Maybe they were just trying to brazen out the Sunday news cycle and then drip out the truth over the next several days to minimize the damage.

Posted by: rockmom at October 10, 2012 09:50 AM (qE3AR)

347 Oh $%#% Kucinich.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 09:51 AM (r2PLg)

348 Oh of course it's about-- Kucinich!

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 09:51 AM (r2PLg)

349 Dennis?!?

Posted by: BignJames at October 10, 2012 09:51 AM (rlFQ+)

350 KOOKinich ! did they give him a High Chair Or Booster seat

Posted by: Evilpens at October 10, 2012 09:51 AM (ck76k)

351

Kucinich!

Posted by: Wisrich at October 10, 2012 09:51 AM (hdpay)

352 Kucinich now? Beeeeooooooeeeeeeooooooe

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 10, 2012 09:52 AM (WAOCR)

353 Kucinich: We shouldn't have been there. ???

Posted by: Sophistahick at October 10, 2012 09:52 AM (UhXzR)

354 >
Quite. And he's claiming his resources and strategy were basically adequate?

What an ass.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 01:44 PM (u8eBQ)<

Good point.

So you had what was need to accomplish the mission and failed?

Obviously not.

That's a 1st grade ass-covering excuse.

Posted by: marcus at October 10, 2012 09:52 AM (GGCsk)

355 I am too lazy to look. Is Patrick Kennedy one of Ted's kids? Of the Chappaquadick tribe?

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at October 10, 2012 09:52 AM (baL2B)

356 What's the QUESTION__ASSHOLE?

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 09:52 AM (r2PLg)

357 Kucinich: "Did these terrorists look like aliens?"

Posted by: Archangel at October 10, 2012 09:52 AM (tANWi)

358 >>>It was 100% legal and not at all involved in this. It WASN'T 100% legal, because he violated his parole conditions in raising money for it under an alias, despite previous convictions for financial fraud for using an alias. Look at it this way. Let's say he raised $70,000, spent $30,000 on the video, and kept the rest, unbeknownst to his investors. Usually no one would investigate this sort of transaction, but he was under STRICT parole conditions to not conduct any business using an alias. This was his fault. The law worked as it was meant to.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 09:52 AM (u8eBQ)

359 365 I am too lazy to look. Is Patrick Kennedy one of Ted's kids? Of the Chappaquadick tribe? Posted by: ChristyBlinky at October 10, 2012 01:52 PM (baL2B) ____________ No.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 09:53 AM (r2PLg)

360 I've been thinking that in the initial chaos of reports about the Benghazi attack, Hillary may have told Obama "don't worry, I've got this, it was connected to the protests over the video" and maybe at first she thought it was. By the time she found out it wasn't, the Preezy was already on his way to Vegas and she couldn't very well tell him to turn Air Force One around and come back to DC to deal with a terrorist attack, because that would have set off a Four Alarm Media Frenzy.

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No matter what they thought it was or as we know, it wasn't.....an ambassador was killed.....3 other Americans were killed. Obama knew that well before he left for Vegas.

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 09:53 AM (X6akg)

361

I'd like to alter, not the design, but the implementation just slightly. I think the Kannon should be used to return the scum to their people after we capture them.<<<<<<__

Then you're looking for our bacon-wrapped Tortured Terrorist Trebuchet.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 10, 2012 09:53 AM (jCyfP)

362 Does the f'er have a question yet?

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 09:53 AM (r2PLg)

363

Issa: Absent a question, your time has expired.

Posted by: Sophistahick at October 10, 2012 09:53 AM (UhXzR)

364 Kucinich throwing Obama under the bus.

Posted by: Wisrich at October 10, 2012 09:53 AM (hdpay)

365 Kucinich is right about this: The Lybia bombing campaign was without constitutional authority.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 09:53 AM (u8eBQ)

366 Since Kirsten Powers stopped just repeating dem talking points, she's gotten a lot more attractive, imo.

Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 09:54 AM (jx2j9)

367 Kucinich not a warrior for the truth-- A warrior for I know ALL I am RIGHT!!

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 09:54 AM (r2PLg)

368 Is there a ? in this RANT Inch High Private eye

Posted by: Evilpens at October 10, 2012 09:54 AM (ck76k)

369 Kucinich: It's our own fault.

Posted by: Sophistahick at October 10, 2012 09:54 AM (UhXzR)

370 Nutters and Whackos Unite

Posted by: Denny-Ron Paulchinic at October 10, 2012 09:54 AM (ovpNn)

371 Strange world when I agree with Kucinich.

We never should have gone in there.

We left a Mad Max country.

We taught all the other tyrants that disarming will end in their death.

Nice going, Sara Power.

Posted by: PJ at October 10, 2012 09:54 AM (DQHjw)

372 Americas fault....right Dennis?

Posted by: BignJames at October 10, 2012 09:54 AM (rlFQ+)

373 Hasn't the alien mothership picked up Kucinich? Did they bring him back??

Posted by: traumakitty at October 10, 2012 09:55 AM (c/Glr)

374 Kucinich is giving a campaign speech while LTC WOods is risking his career to get to the TRUTH. Kucinich is an arrogant prick.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 09:55 AM (r2PLg)

375 Is this supposed to be a campaign speech hearing? Just asking.

Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 09:55 AM (jx2j9)

376 Then you're looking for our bacon-wrapped Tortured Terrorist Trebuchet.

I'm conflicted on the use of bacon. Can we use some part of the hog that I don't want to eat?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 10, 2012 09:55 AM (/kI1Q)

377 Kucinich: We shouldn't have been there. ???

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We shouldn't be anywhere! US out of North America! And yet, here we are.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 10, 2012 09:55 AM (Hx5uv)

378 Kucinich and Ron Paul must be real fun together.

Posted by: Wisrich at October 10, 2012 09:55 AM (hdpay)

379 tasker, 5AM Washington DC time. So he turns over and puts an arm around Michelle. Michelle clocks him and he is unconscious for the next ten hours?

5AM should be when the President is waking up to face a new day. I can not see a reason to even go back to bed when it erupts at that time. But we are talking our current 'leader.'

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 10, 2012 09:55 AM (a0qpy)

380 Kucinich and Ron Paul must be real fun together. Posted by: Wisrich

Ugg, did not need that visual. Thanks.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 10, 2012 09:56 AM (bCaR9)

381 The real story on Obama's "lackluster" performance in the first debate. Brought to you by the hard hitting radio host Tom Joyner: "I think it's fair to say I was just too polite," "Because, you know, it's hard to sometimes just keep on saying 'and what you're saying isn't true,'" Obama said."It gets repetitive." Now, you couldn't have that could you? Repetitive

Posted by: Ed Gibbon at October 10, 2012 09:57 AM (4eNxd)

382 390 tasker, 5AM Washington DC time. So he turns over and puts an arm around Michelle. Michelle clocks him and he is unconscious for the next ten hours? 5AM should be when the President is waking up to face a new day. I can not see a reason to even go back to bed when it erupts at that time. But we are talking our current 'leader.' Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 10, 2012 01:55 PM (a0qpy) _________________ Exactly. I just got chills reading the picture you just put in my head.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 09:57 AM (r2PLg)

383 OOPSIE Looks Like Al Quaida is growing stronger not weaker!

Posted by: Denny-Ron Paulchinic Asks a question at October 10, 2012 09:57 AM (ovpNn)

384 Al Quaeda stronger today. Or as Obama sais "deeminished".

Posted by: Sophistahick at October 10, 2012 09:57 AM (UhXzR)

385 Well.
Kucinich not real interested in the D-party line. More interested in pissing on the walls.

Posted by: Al at October 10, 2012 09:57 AM (MzQOZ)

386 The State Dept guys sitting behind Amb. Kennedy look like cats in a roomful of rocking chairs. I especially like the dod with the weird hair and the other one chomping on gum. He looks like Guido and a hit man.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at October 10, 2012 09:57 AM (baL2B)

387

Why did they...Barky, Hillary, Rice, et al...so desperately cling to the story about 'the Video'?

I think it's the Timeline.

Just a few days before this happened, on 09/11/12...at the DNC convention...they were crowing about how Al Qaeda was "on it's heels".

A terrorist attack, on the heels of all that crowing about how 'We've got them on the run!'....makes them look like idiots.

So I think they wanted to keep the Video story alive...until people forgot about all that bullshit they spewed at the DNC convention.

That...and to be able to use it to weaken people's Freedom of Speech rights, when it comes to "slandering the prophet".

Posted by: wheatie at October 10, 2012 09:58 AM (l5RhJ)

388 5AM should be when the President is waking up to face a new day.

Choomer-in-Chief takes his morning briefings just before lunch.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 10, 2012 09:58 AM (/kI1Q)

389 Kucinich has nothing to lose since he wont be back for next Congressional session. So he gets to play really petulant child trying to bring down as many as possible in spite.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 10, 2012 09:58 AM (a0qpy)

390

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 01:52 PM (u8eBQ)

The government is not, despite all claims, omniscient.

The government didn't know who originally made the video. It launched an investigation to find out, even though there was nothing >>>in the video<<< which was illegal. When it found who made it, they went after him under any pretext they could.

It shouldn't have. It's bullshit. It means that any time you speak out, the government could come after you for an unrelated offense.

So a Joe the Plumber with a tax problem is suddenly in Leavenworth after he makes the president look like an idiot. Our system is supposed to prevent that. It's why police who ignore warrants result in criminals walking free.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 10, 2012 09:58 AM (TpXEI)

391 Chavetz is hammering Nordstrom.

Posted by: BignJames at October 10, 2012 09:58 AM (rlFQ+)

392 I'd like to know what Dennis the Perv is campaigning for since Marcy Kaptur kicked his tiny ass in the donk primary and we'll finally be rid of him.

Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at October 10, 2012 09:59 AM (AkT7x)

393 396 Well. Kucinich not real interested in the D-party line. More interested in pissing on the walls. Posted by: Al at October 10, 2012 01:57 PM (MzQOZ) ____________ Ya--well at least there is that. But four good men died. Two guys possibly ran over to hold the ground and to buy time for a rescue that might have been vetoed by Hillary , Obama and an un-named national security advisor--according to one report.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 09:59 AM (r2PLg)

394

Kucinich and Ron Paul must be real fun together<<<<<<<

Wait until they're both retired and lobbying for the Lollipop Guild.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 10, 2012 10:00 AM (fnB4E)

395 O/T for the gergs who think the unemployment numbers are awesome;

Drop in Openings Signals Limited U.S. Job Growth: Economy

http://tinyurl.com/9r25e2q

Posted by: kbdabear at October 10, 2012 10:00 AM (wwsoB)

396 I'm conflicted on the use of bacon. Can we use some part of the hog that I don't want to eat? This.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 10, 2012 10:00 AM (B/VB5)

397 Chaffetz cuts to tha chase...

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 10, 2012 10:00 AM (WAOCR)

398 yeah, we'll be fact-checking Issa and Chaffetz and issuing Pinocchios for everything they said, but not for Cummings and Norton.

Posted by: Politifact at October 10, 2012 10:00 AM (jUytm)

399 You're seeing a clash of philosophies and mind sets right now. The reality world view of the military and then-- State.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 10:01 AM (r2PLg)

400 I like Issa slapping Cummings. I love Issa.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at October 10, 2012 10:01 AM (baL2B)

401 402 Chavetz is hammering Nordstrom.

Posted by: BignJames at October 10, 2012 01:58 PM (rlFQ+)

I don't think he's hammering him. He's trying to point out that in spite of the claim that there was 'no money' for extra security, they gave the security at the time a pay increase for hazardous duty.

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 10:02 AM (X6akg)

402 Bevel, you wrote this, doubling down on your lack of understanding of the case: "This situation is no different. The government shouldn't have been investigating who made the video. Itwas 100% legal " But this is what happened, and it isn't the only source for this. However, it's concise and easy to find so I'll use it. >>>Nakoula has been identified as a key figure behind Innocence of Muslims, an anti-Islamic video posted on YouTube that disparages Islam's prophet Muhammad, and that has been blamed for sparking demonstrations and riots in the Middle East, North Africa,[1] and other countries. After protests against Innocence of Muslims began on September 11, 2012, a man who identified himself as "Sam Bacile", the YouTube poster of the videos, called the Associated Press and the Wall Street Journal.[15] He said he had produced a movie with the title, Innocence of Muslims that the YouTube videos were promoting, and falsely claimed that the movie had been funded by $5 million collected from 100 Jewish donors, and that he was an Israeli-Jew.[15][27] By September 13, 2012, Nakoula had been linked to the movie and the persona Sam Bacile, by the Associated Press and U.S. federal authorities.[1] The Associated Press reported that the cellphone number that "Bacile" used for an interview matched Nakoula's address,[30][31][32] and among Nakoula's 13 previously known aliases were names which were similar to Sam Bacile.[17][4] Nakoula denied being Bacile,[30][31][32] but federal law enforcement officials identified Nakoula as the key filmmaker Nakoula brought this on himself. He called the friggin' media. His parole conditions -- because he is a convicted felon -- did not allow him to use an alias in business dealings, or even use the Internet without his parole officer's permission. Nor have bank accounts the parole officer doesn't know about. And he's calling the media and telling them about 5-million dollars raised from Jews (or whomever) using his own phone, which the media got on call display? Dude. He brought his arrest on himself. You're completely wrong on this. Just move forward.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 10:02 AM (u8eBQ)

403 Well, Lamb to the slaughter... Who wants kebobs?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 10, 2012 10:02 AM (bCaR9)

404

Interim bottom line - The State Department under Hillary Clinton is a shambles.

Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 10:02 AM (jx2j9)

405 So Wood is jeopardizing his career to tell the truth?Haven't seen anything like that for awhile..

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 10:02 AM (9+ccr)

406 Wow--we might need to hold off on skewering Nordstrom...if you just heard that.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 10:02 AM (r2PLg)

407 This guys sounds like Adam Sandler.

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 10:03 AM (X6akg)

408 Too much political cost.....now we're getting some where.

Posted by: BignJames at October 10, 2012 10:03 AM (rlFQ+)

409 Fucking Romney.

Posted by: Countrysquire at October 10, 2012 10:03 AM (QB3JR)

410 418 So Wood is jeopardizing his career to tell the truth?Haven't seen anything like that for awhile.. Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 02:02 PM (9+ccr) __________________ I think so--he alluded to that in his opening statement.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 10:03 AM (r2PLg)

411 312
So you are fine with the President arresting someone and putting them in serious danger in order to cover up the fact that he and his administration screwed up by the numbers?

The State department showed his parole violations to the whole world, and the President hung a big bulls eye around his neck.

Who is going to be the next person to get their rights violated by this SCOAMF in his flailing around to get reelected?

Posted by: Johan at October 10, 2012 10:03 AM (ANMrK)

412 Holy crap, I guess that David Blaine disappearing act Ace performed last evening was short lived. Somebody pry the head ewok out of the Faraday cage before he singes his fur.

Posted by: Fritz at October 10, 2012 10:03 AM (vm7ot)

413 Not Trainee Mohammed, BRAINEE Mohammed.

Posted by: Paul Blart Embassy Cop at October 10, 2012 10:04 AM (71LDo)

414 She thought all she had to do was show up and everything would be considered exceptional under her leadership. After all, she is the most intelligent woman in the world. Don't believe her? Just ask her.

Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 10:04 AM (jx2j9)

415 421 Too much political cost.....now we're getting some where. Posted by: BignJames at October 10, 2012 02:03 PM (rlFQ+) _________________ BOOM! You heard that. He said that reluctantly to--makes it more ...serious in my opinion.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 10:04 AM (r2PLg)

416 >>> So Wood is jeopardizing his career to tell the truth?Haven't seen anything like that for awhile.. That's for sure. There are probably more physical heroes than social heroes, the fear of social and career disapproval is so high. In any case, the combination of both in one person is very impressive.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 10:04 AM (u8eBQ)

417

419 Wow--we might need to hold off on skewering Nordstrom...if you just heard that.

===

Yeah, I think he's beginning to feel like he's going to be a fall guy and said "Screw that".

Posted by: Wisrich at October 10, 2012 10:04 AM (hdpay)

418 Tasker, yeah the image of Michelle is pretty scary.

State Department mindset has never been close to military mindset. Take for instance the concept of danger. Nice remote site where the locals liked the US with cliffs to dive into the clear tropical waters. So the airmen were taking advantage of the cliffs to do something Acapulco is famous for. US ambassador visits the site, sees the cliff diving, has a case of the danger vapors, and forbids any more cliff diving.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 10, 2012 10:05 AM (a0qpy)

419 Why can't these people just ask a question instead of pontificating for 5 minutes first?

Posted by: marinemom at October 10, 2012 10:05 AM (OKtOV)

420 #165 I bet on the Clintons. Bill still has actual friends, as opposed to Obama, who is now down to Whitaker and Jarrett, maybe Rice. His penchant for throwing people under the bus has left him with few allies.

Most in Congress will go with the Clintons.

Posted by: Miss Marple at October 10, 2012 10:05 AM (GoIUi)

421 Random, yes indeed the "film" maker brought this on himself, but most parole officers will tell you they rarely bother revolting parole for something like this. Let's be honest. As creepy as this guy is the obama administration used him to blame for this disaster. Rounding up some guy by the FBI in the middle of the night is not your typical parole violation arrest...

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 10:05 AM (9+ccr)

422 432 Why can't these people just ask a question instead of pontificating for 5 minutes first?

Posted by: marinemom at October 10, 2012 02:05 PM (OKtOV)

The cameras are on and it's an election year.

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 10:05 AM (X6akg)

423 Lynch wants to take a "holistic" approach? This hearing is supposed to be about the details, not the big picture.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 10, 2012 10:05 AM (WAOCR)

424 Carney is throwing the intelligence community under the bus. I question the wisdom.

Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 10:06 AM (jx2j9)

425 Lynch: BUUUUUSSSSHHHH! (Republicans) It's all their fault. F&^%KER

Posted by: Sophistahick at October 10, 2012 10:06 AM (UhXzR)

426 Why can't these people just ask a question instead of pontificating for 5 minutes first?Posted by: marinemom

These are politicians. It's their nature.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 10, 2012 10:06 AM (bCaR9)

427 430 419 Wow--we might need to hold off on skewering Nordstrom...if you just heard that. === Yeah, I think he's beginning to feel like he's going to be a fall guy and said "Screw that". Posted by: Wisrich at October 10, 2012 02:04 PM (hdpay) ____________ Yep.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 10:06 AM (r2PLg)

428 Ambassador Rice was simply continuing the meme for political correctness...the poor mooslems were reacting to a vile video, otherwise they are meek and cooperative terrorists.

They really, really hoped (the WH and State Dept) that this would go away.
They hoped the MSM would cooperate and keep parroting them and their lies.
They hoped this would be pushed onto the back burner until after the election of King Putz.
They hoped the election matters would trump the silly news.

In the past four years, if this administration said something then it was repeated endlessly on the MSM and by the NYT and WaPo. This was their bubble. They are as stunned as we are that this is finally getting traction.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at October 10, 2012 10:07 AM (baL2B)

429 I can't help thinking we're missing half the story here.

The two ex-SEALs killed were there searching for weapons we supplied the rebels. Why was the Amb even there? Mahaps to negotiate for some weapons to be returned?

Could the whole 'complete and utter lack of security' thingie been a requirement of the other side to negotiate?

...which turned into a trap for the Amb.

Posted by: trainer @ work at October 10, 2012 10:07 AM (IVoJS)

430 Meanwhile, CNN is talking about Lance Armstrong.

Why the fuck was the US Postal Service giving him money when they can't pay their bills?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 10, 2012 10:07 AM (/kI1Q)

431 revolting

meant revoking his parole..

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 10:07 AM (9+ccr)

432 >>> The State department showed his parole violations to the whole world, and the President hung a big bulls eye around his neck. The Secretary of State and President's behavior were abysmal, rising near impeachment level, and easily surpassing utterly shameful. However. Calling the media from your own phone telling them about parole violations in a story with international attention is unwise, as Donald Rumsfeld might say. Prosecutors can't just ignore it.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 10:07 AM (u8eBQ)

433 The Dem's continue to push the "budget cut" meme. There is absolutely no evidence, in any communciation that their requests were denied due to budget constraints.

Posted by: Wisrich at October 10, 2012 10:07 AM (hdpay)

434 Carney is implying that the entire intelligence community is incompetent. Unless they are, this will not work out well.

Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 10:07 AM (jx2j9)

435 Anyone else watching Jay Carney spew more admin lies about Libya ?
I want to throw something at my TV

Posted by: This Administration Lies at October 10, 2012 10:07 AM (0upWk)

436 You know how, sometimes, you just know that someone is really dumb. Yeh, that's how I feel listening and watching Mashole Lynch.

Posted by: Sophistahick at October 10, 2012 10:07 AM (UhXzR)

437 State Department mindset has never been close to military mindset. Take for instance the concept of danger. Nice remote site where the locals liked the US with cliffs to dive into the clear tropical waters. So the airmen were taking advantage of the cliffs to do something Acapulco is famous for. US ambassador visits the site, sees the cliff diving, has a case of the danger vapors, and forbids any more cliff diving. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 10, 2012 02:05 PM (a0qpy) _________________________ A case of the danger vapors. LOL!

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 10:07 AM (r2PLg)

438

Chaffetz was just over there...in Lybia.

He's been saying, on Fox, that he went out on the streets...and asked people, randomly, about the 'Video'.

"People didn't know what I was talking about", Chaffetz has said.

Posted by: wheatie at October 10, 2012 10:08 AM (l5RhJ)

439

But, but, what about Big Bird?

Posted by: Soona at October 10, 2012 10:08 AM (ZgLu/)

440 Carney also saying that the murdered Americans knowingly sacrificed their lives.

Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 10:09 AM (jx2j9)

441 An we please add a bookmark link to jump to the last post in these threads? I am on an iPhone and it litterally takes 1-2 minutes to scroll-drag all the way down. Please?

Posted by: Serious Cat at October 10, 2012 10:09 AM (wLibB)

442 So side show Carney is blaming the intelligence community? Not wise. I've read plenty that intelligence warned State numerous times of the dangers.

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 10:09 AM (9+ccr)

443 Ahhh, Republican budget cuts, is there nothing they can't do? Fire teachers, fighters, and police and kill U.S. ambassadors, give rise to gun crime. Man, I see now why they are soooo evil!

Posted by: no good deed at October 10, 2012 10:10 AM (mjR67)

444 >>>Anyone else watching Jay Carney spew more admin lies about Libya ? I want to throw something at my TV So they finally brought him out of hiding today? Big coincidence.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 10:10 AM (u8eBQ)

445

Posted by: Johan at October 10, 2012 10:10 AM (ANMrK)

446 Lets send Lamb, Nordstrom over to Benghazi as Amb. Carney's security detail.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 10, 2012 10:10 AM (a0qpy)

447 Carney also saying that the murdered Americans knowingly sacrificed their lives. in other words: Obama's cannon fodder.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 10, 2012 10:10 AM (jUytm)

448 Nordstrom's clarification:
"Yes, some of those guys were CIA, duh."

Well, that's the translation of it anyway.

Posted by: Al at October 10, 2012 10:11 AM (MzQOZ)

449

Carney - "... in response to a video." They created the entire narrative of the video. The video was months old and nobody had seen it until they brought it up at the time of the murders. It is almost as if they created the entire controversy. Breathtaking.

Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 10:11 AM (jx2j9)

450 Serious Cat, Download Atomic Web Browser. It's awesome and easily worth 99 cents or whatever. It has all sorts of options you can configure if you want, and can get out of your way when you want to read/work. ONE of the options is gestures. I have mine set so a two finger swipe up, or down, jumps to the top or bottom of the page. Trust me. This is awesome.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 10:11 AM (u8eBQ)

451 The dems wander everywhere and never get to question, the 'pubs manage to stay on point and actually ask questions.

Posted by: marinemom at October 10, 2012 10:12 AM (OKtOV)

452 Carney is implying that the entire intelligence community is incompetent. Unless they are, this will not work out well. Given the leaks over the last few days, it appears that both the intelligence community and the career diplomats at State are saying fuck you we're not going under the bus. This can get very ugly, very fast.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 10, 2012 10:12 AM (VtjlW)

453 Ahhh, Republican budget cuts, is there nothing they can't do? Fire teachers, fighters, and police and kill U.S. ambassadors, give rise to gun crime. Man, I see now why they are soooo evil! ================================ Democrat playbook, page 1.

Posted by: Countrysquire at October 10, 2012 10:12 AM (QB3JR)

454 How can the State Dept sleep at night after this? Epic failure.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at October 10, 2012 10:12 AM (baL2B)

455 462
Carney also saying that the murdered Americans knowingly sacrificed their lives.

BS. The British press which seems to have all the info on this said that 90 minutes after this started, the WH and Hillary decided not to send in anyone to help them, asking instead the locals to help... How'd that work out?

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 10:12 AM (9+ccr)

456
372
I'd like to alter, not the design, but the implementation just slightly. I think the Kannon should be used to return the scum to their people after we capture them.<<<<<<__

Then you're looking for our bacon-wrapped Tortured Terrorist Trebuchet.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 10, 2012 01:53 PM (jCyfP)

Hmmm...that does sound intriguing, however, I'm a fan of the Kannon due to its ability to render the material into multiple pieces. And I'm prefer BOOMS over SPLATS.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 10:13 AM (da5Wo)

457

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 10, 2012 02:12 PM (VtjlW)

You got that right.

Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 10:13 AM (jx2j9)

458

We really need a timeline as to who did what when, but the main point is obvious and indisputable (unless you want to count the people who will defend the undefendable) - the WH, directly and through surrogates, lied about the nature of the attack at Benghazi for weeks, and stonewalled the FBI's attempt to investigate the case, either by not providing security for them or by simply not granted them access, for even longer.

Even *I* knew it was a terrorist attack, within a day or two, and I'm nobody. The intelligence services were doing their job, and it was through other politicians who were also briefed that the news came out. Obviously the President knew the truth, but was saying something else for an absurdly long time.

The timeline can tell more exactly what the situation was when Obama left for Vegas, but the essential facts are already well established. Beyond that, all that's left is proving how political magical thinking was behind the lack of security, and who was ultimately behind that decision.

Posted by: Optimizer at October 10, 2012 10:13 AM (As94z)

459 >>>Carney should tread very carefully on this ground. Not people you want to annoy. So, do you think swing voters will side with the intelligence community, or Jay Carney?

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 10:13 AM (u8eBQ)

460 Wow..this guy from Oklahoma is good.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 10:13 AM (r2PLg)

461 "You're completely wrong on this. Just move forward.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 02:02 PM (u8eBQ) "

Read This:

"After protests against Innocence of Muslims began on September 11, 2012, a man who identified himself as "Sam Bacile", the YouTube poster of the videos, called the Associated Press and the Wall Street Journal."

Now read this:

" By September 13, 2012, Nakoula had been linked to the movie and the persona Sam Bacile, by the Associated Press and U.S. federal authorities."

Seems to me like there was an investigation on who Sam Bacile was. So I am not completely wrong on this. Why was the government investigating Sam Bacile? What had he done?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 10, 2012 10:13 AM (TpXEI)

462 Wit for it. Lamb is being baited.

Posted by: Sophistahick at October 10, 2012 10:13 AM (UhXzR)

463 US Ambassador and Officials died without proper security, every request refused. Meanwhile Barry, Michelle and kids spent every tax funded resource beyond reason to vacation, vacation, vacation.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 10, 2012 10:13 AM (BAnPT)

464 >>>Calling the media from your own phone telling them about parole violations in a story with international attention is unwise, as Donald Rumsfeld might say.

True, but the key words are "story with international attention." If this was just some yahoo with a lousy Youtube video, nobody would have answered the phone.

Posted by: Johan at October 10, 2012 10:14 AM (ANMrK)

465 Landford drills down and finds truth.

Posted by: Sophistahick at October 10, 2012 10:14 AM (UhXzR)

466 477 Wow..this guy from Oklahoma is good.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 02:13 PM (r2PLg)

Yeah, he's empathized with her to get her defenses down....now he's reeling her in.

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 10:15 AM (X6akg)

467 Did Lamb just fucking say it was a very large compound?! She said it's 100 by 300 yards. So THAT'S why they didn't know it was an organized attack? THAT is her story? Flaming skull time!

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 10:15 AM (u8eBQ)

468 Lankford just made Lamb step in it.

Posted by: concrete girl at October 10, 2012 10:15 AM (y2Ojs)

469 Lankford wins Hottest Staffer of the Hearing award.

Posted by: fly at October 10, 2012 10:15 AM (XAz1C)

470 Yeah, he's empathized with her to get her defenses down....now he's reeling her in.

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 02:15 PM (X6akg)

Maybe he can get her to implicate the real culprit in this...

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 10:15 AM (9+ccr)

471 Wheels on the bus go 'round and 'round. But who to throw under?

Posted by: Sophistahick at October 10, 2012 10:16 AM (UhXzR)

472 Lankford ripping it.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 10, 2012 10:16 AM (WAOCR)

473 476 >>>Carney should tread very carefully on this ground. Not people you want to annoy.

So, do you think swing voters will side with the intelligence community, or Jay Carney?

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 02:13 PM (u8eBQ)

I don't think it would be that cut and dry... the intelligence will make the administration look very very bad.

Posted by: Long Island at October 10, 2012 10:16 AM (kzp9t)

474 483 477 Wow..this guy from Oklahoma is good. Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 02:13 PM (r2PLg) Yeah, he's empathized with her to get her defenses down....now he's reeling her in. Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 02:15 PM (X6akg) _______________ Ya..plus he is not making it about him--which I guess must be unusual for "House".

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 10:16 AM (r2PLg)

475 They "EVOLVED" hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Posted by: Evilpens at October 10, 2012 10:16 AM (ck76k)

476 Kennedy just painted himself into a corner.

Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 10:16 AM (jx2j9)

477 >>>True, but the key words are "story with international attention." If this was just some yahoo with a lousy Youtube video, nobody would have answered the phone. Agreed, but calling attention to your violation does not grant you immunity from the legal consequences of it: it increases the odds you'll get caught.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 10:17 AM (u8eBQ)

478

WFT. Kennedy- There were reports....from somewhere.

Langford/Issa - From where?

Kennedy - From, you know, places. I can't say anymore.

Posted by: Wisrich at October 10, 2012 10:18 AM (hdpay)

479 Amb. Kennedy and Ms. Lamb: Credibility. Never heard of it

Posted by: Sophistahick at October 10, 2012 10:18 AM (UhXzR)

480 Kennedy just lied his ass off! There were NO reports of protests. Amb. Stevens had the Turkish amb. there that night....walked him out to his car @ 8:30pm. There was NO protest going on.

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 10:18 AM (X6akg)

481 WFT s/b WTF

Posted by: Wisrich at October 10, 2012 10:18 AM (hdpay)

482 >>>Wow..this guy from Oklahoma is good. Very.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 10:18 AM (u8eBQ)

483 Agreed, but calling attention to your violation does not grant you immunity from the legal consequences of it: it increases the odds you'll get caught.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 02:17 PM (u8eBQ)

Whatever. I just think the heavy handed ,middle of the night arrest with the FBI investigating was a bit much...

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 10:18 AM (9+ccr)

484 291 Thank Heavens we arrested that film maker for making this happen when he abused free speech with blasphemy.
Posted by: Beto at October 10, 2012 01:38 PM

There was no protest before attack

So will Bette Midler and other self proclaimed free speech champions take back their demands that the filmmaker be jailed?

http://tinyurl.com/9nqzvbv

Posted by: kbdabear at October 10, 2012 10:18 AM (wwsoB)

485 Random, actually I just came across this sollution. Create a new bookmark. Name it "end". Edit new bookmark to display this js command: JavaScript:scroll(0,document.getElementsByTagName('body')%5B0%5D.scrollHeight);

Posted by: Serious Cat at October 10, 2012 10:18 AM (u5ozF)

486 There's video!?!

Posted by: BignJames at October 10, 2012 10:19 AM (rlFQ+)

487 494 Kennedy just painted himself into a corner. Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 02:16 PM (jx2j9) _________ Did you catch what Issa said to him? Something like I know you were calling this an organized attack two days later--well before anyone else. (Something like that.)

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 10:19 AM (r2PLg)

488 Anyone else begging to think that the foreign policy debate is going to be worse than debate 1?

Posted by: Long Island at October 10, 2012 10:19 AM (kzp9t)

489 Wanna bet that video suddenly vanishes?

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 10:19 AM (X6akg)

490 Kennedy is a real piece of work.

Posted by: Wisrich at October 10, 2012 10:19 AM (hdpay)

491 Someone should make a:

OBAMA PUT AN MAN IN JAIL TO COVER UP THE FACT THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER 9/11 TERRORIST ATTACK.

So he could get reelected.

Ad

Run that for a week. If the election is not over it doesn't matter cause we're screwed either way.

Posted by: Johan at October 10, 2012 10:20 AM (ANMrK)

492 50 minute tape. Over 10 times longer than the missing tape of Nixon

Posted by: Sophistahick at October 10, 2012 10:20 AM (UhXzR)

493 509 Wanna bet that video suddenly vanishes?

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 02:19 PM (X6akg)

I imagine Issa has it...if it exists..

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 10:20 AM (9+ccr)

494 I imagine Issa has it...if it exists..

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 02:20 PM (9+ccr)

He's asking for it....doesn't appear that he has it.

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 10:21 AM (X6akg)

495 505 There's video!?! Posted by: BignJames at October 10, 2012 02:19 PM (rlFQ+) ____________ Issa--panning cameras. FBI says it's not theirs and they don't need it.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 10:21 AM (r2PLg)

496 513 509
Wanna bet that video suddenly vanishes?

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 02:19 PM (X6akg)

I imagine Issa has it...if it exists..

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 02:20 PM (9+ccr)

ISSA has it. He knows they know he has a copy from a whistleblower. He is forcing them to release it before the whistleblower copy gets leaked.

Posted by: Denny-Ron Paulchinic Asks a question at October 10, 2012 10:22 AM (ovpNn)

497 I look forward to Jay Carney's most recent self-immolation. Busy day following the drip.drip.drip of lies!

So, the numbers are increasing under the bus: Rice with Lamb are on the menu.

I am lagging a few minutes behind as I taped this. Rep Burton is grilling Lamb on hot coals. Issa corrected her math.

Thirty percent turnover in training of guards. Wunderbar.

Lt Col Wood is a hero.

Norton is now trying to protect Hillary. Spin spin spin.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at October 10, 2012 10:22 AM (baL2B)

498 What was the name of the Rep. that was tearing it up during F&F?

Posted by: RWC at October 10, 2012 10:22 AM (fWAjv)

499 TN's Cooper: Bump in the road.

Posted by: Sophistahick at October 10, 2012 10:23 AM (UhXzR)

500 Another dem speech. F*cking just get on with the question and if you don't have question shut the f*ck up.

Posted by: marinemom at October 10, 2012 10:23 AM (OKtOV)

501 Tn's Cooper = Bastard

Posted by: Sophistahick at October 10, 2012 10:23 AM (UhXzR)

502 I can't believe the asshat from TN is wasting time like this.

Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 10:24 AM (jx2j9)

503 Lieutenant corporal?

Posted by: BignJames at October 10, 2012 10:24 AM (rlFQ+)

504 I'm watching this on CSPAN.

Posted by: pray for peace at October 10, 2012 10:24 AM (oZfic)

505 Balushi: Weidremyer - Dead.

Posted by: Sophistahick at October 10, 2012 10:24 AM (UhXzR)

506

Cooper: 4 dead in Bangasi? Pfft. Let tell me about how many died under Reagan. Does this help solve the problem, no, but who cares.

Oh, and those were military personel, not diplomatic personel.

Posted by: Wisrich at October 10, 2012 10:25 AM (hdpay)

507 fucktards like this Coopercocksucking Shitstain have no business on investigative hearing committees.

THis is why our government is so fucking inefficient.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 10, 2012 10:25 AM (ovpNn)

508 Terrorists don't exist anymore....didn't you get the memo?

Posted by: BignJames at October 10, 2012 10:25 AM (rlFQ+)

509 >>>Whatever. I just think the heavy handed ,middle of the night arrest with the FBI investigating was a bit much... I'm torn on that. I tend to think you're right. In all likelihood. However, he did basically out himself by calling the media from a phone registered to him, making up a story about $5 million dollars raised from Jews. It's not inconceivable that someone in the FBI or other agency was concerned for his safety, and decided to act pronto and/or they thought he was concerned about his security and might flee before he could be arrested. I reiterate that I think you're probably right and it was very heavy-handed. But the actual decision by prosecutors to go after him for a parole violation was proper, I think. What would it say to society writ large and to his previous victims if he committed and bragged about a parole violation and the authorities ignored it?

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 10:26 AM (u8eBQ)

510

313 I am a little unclear what Nordstrom is "proud" of.

He failed in the mission. And failed miserably.

Four people are dead including the VIP ambassador.

At the hands of enemy forces.

Embarrassed and contrite would be more like it.
Posted by: marcus at October 10, 2012 01:42 PM (GGCsk)

I'm pretty sure Nordstrom said his position in Tripoli ended in July 2012. He's there to testify as to what he witnessed/experienced before his departure. It seems like it's Wood and Nordstrom versus Dumb and Dumber.

Posted by: joanne at October 10, 2012 10:26 AM (VNFBf)

511

477
Wow..this guy from Oklahoma is good.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 02:13 PM (r2PLg)

--------

He's my Congressman.

Made me proud, he did.....he's been doing real good in his first term.

Posted by: wheatie at October 10, 2012 10:26 AM (l5RhJ)

512 THIS BITCH LAMB SMILING?

Posted by: Snoop Dogg's Index Finger at October 10, 2012 10:26 AM (Mj4Zt)

513 The slut was asking for it, wearing all that white stuff.

That's what Greg said. He still on the toilet.

Posted by: Greg's mom at October 10, 2012 10:26 AM (wR+pz)

514 Ghee no ambassador on his list?

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 10:26 AM (r2PLg)

515 We should just ignore anyone who dies under SCOAMF

Posted by: marinemom at October 10, 2012 10:26 AM (OKtOV)

516 and he just insulted americans as stupid who can find things on a map.

Guess he knows his voting demographic.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 10, 2012 10:26 AM (ovpNn)

517 "Most Americans can't find these places on a map" Where did they get this guy? Is he up for reelection...he just called the American people stupid.

Posted by: pray for peace at October 10, 2012 10:26 AM (oZfic)

518 Ms. Lamb, I'd like to lick your gaping ax wound later, if you wouldn't mind.

Posted by: Rep. Cooper at October 10, 2012 10:26 AM (XAz1C)

519 524 I'm watching this on CSPAN.

Posted by: pray for peace at October 10, 2012 02:24 PM (oZfic)

Oh thank God came here to tell us. We were worried how you were viewing it!

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 10:27 AM (X6akg)

520 DR. GOSAR THE GOSARIAN

Posted by: Snoop Dogg's Index Finger at October 10, 2012 10:27 AM (Mj4Zt)

521 >>>Agreed, but calling attention to your violation does
not grant you immunity from the legal consequences of it: it increases
the odds you'll get caught.

And I am saying that the calling attention to the violation was done by the administration to cover their ass. So instead of being ignored by the parole board like a vast majority of violations, they made sure he went to directly to jail and did not collect his 200 dollars.

Posted by: Johan at October 10, 2012 10:27 AM (ANMrK)

522 Issa is not in the room...Some shit is going down behind the scenes!

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 10, 2012 10:27 AM (ovpNn)

523 545 Issa is not in the room...Some shit is going down behind the scenes!

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 10, 2012 02:27 PM (ovpNn)

What?

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 10:28 AM (9+ccr)

524 He's my Congressman. Made me proud, he did.....he's been doing real good in his first term. Posted by: wheatie at October 10, 2012 02:26 PM (l5RhJ) ___________ Damn are you lucky--really seems like a class act.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 10:28 AM (r2PLg)

525 @rorycooper Jake Tapper to Jay Carney: "Didn't President Obama shoot first, and aim later?" #Libya

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 10, 2012 10:28 AM (YjDyJ)

526 Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 02:27 PM (X6akg) Actually I didn't know if you guys realized it was on the tv.

Posted by: pray for peace at October 10, 2012 10:28 AM (oZfic)

527

What has also been forgotten through this ordeal, besides the derelection of duty by CIC -and administration is to cover up they used the video, and also had a video maker arrested under false pretenses .

or as cover up. an actual arrest!

spoke of our rights of speech !

Posted by: willow at October 10, 2012 10:28 AM (hX8cq)

528 Man-crush on Lt. Col. Wood.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 10:28 AM (u8eBQ)

529 So Neo the voter, which pill will you take about Benghazi?

The red pill will give you the truth.

The blue pill will return you to la-la land.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 10, 2012 10:29 AM (a0qpy)

530 548 @rorycooper Jake Tapper to Jay Carney: "Didn't President Obama shoot first, and aim later?" #Libya

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 10, 2012 02:28 PM (YjDyJ)

OUCH that is sure to leave a mark on the Emperors tender half white buttcheek.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 10, 2012 10:29 AM (ovpNn)

531 Actually I didn't know if you guys realized it was on the tv.

Posted by: pray for peace at October 10, 2012 02:28 PM (oZfic)

Yeah, we can't read the first sentence in the post.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 10:29 AM (X6akg)

532 It is racist to assume that we cannot trust our local allies because they're brown people. And sexist to say that Secretary Clinton didn't know what she was doing.

Besides, wake up, you redneck haters from flyover country, we have a black President, and will have one for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at October 10, 2012 10:30 AM (Yg+nf)

533 >>>And I am saying that the calling attention to the violation was done by the administration to cover their ass. Yes. Also. He called the media from his own phone and described what is a prima fascia parole violation. Anyway, enough on this topic for now, I think we can both agree. We both understand each other's position.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 10:30 AM (u8eBQ)

534 "What would it say to society writ large and to his previous victims if he committed and bragged about a parole violation and the authorities ignored it?

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 02:26 PM (u8eBQ) "

What does it say to the Muslim world that he's in jail right now?

Suppose a guy named 'Random' makes a post on a blog critical of the president. The president happens to read it and gets pissed off.

Is it right or proper for the President to launch an investigation of Random?

Suppose other people read Random's post, and there is a national story, and Random calls the AP under his pseudonym. Does that suddenly mean the President can investigate Random to find out who he really is? If they find he has an unpaid parking ticket or tax problems, is it proper to go after him?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 10, 2012 10:30 AM (TpXEI)

535 Love the Tapper remark. Right back at you Barry for saying that about Romney when this happened...

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 10:30 AM (9+ccr)

536 I am biased but the Republicans look much smarter than the Dems.

I have never seen such incompetence as the State Dept has revealed themselves.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at October 10, 2012 10:32 AM (baL2B)

537

OT: More rich slow simmered shit stew from Imam of Awesome himself!

http://tinyurl.com/8by6bxg

"I think it's fair to say that I was just too polite in the first debate."

Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 10:32 AM (jx2j9)

538

Findings: State department and adminastration are lazy bastards and their innaction kills people. The four dead are just the latest in our recent 40 years of sesame street liberalism.

Posted by: Sophistahick at October 10, 2012 10:33 AM (UhXzR)

539 Romney is going to literally squat on Obama's shoulders, tilt his head back, pinch his nose shut to force him to breath through his mouth and then deliver a Daisycutter of a Baltimore Blumpkin down the great orator's orifice during the Foreign Policy Debate.

All Blowbowmao has is I GOT BIN LADEN!

And even the Navy seals are like GTFO POSER! YOU DIDN"T GET HIM! SOMEBODY ELSE MADE THAT HAPPEN!

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 10, 2012 10:33 AM (ovpNn)

540 Who is sending US military to Jordan?

Posted by: pray for peace at October 10, 2012 10:34 AM (oZfic)

541

THEY outed a private citizen to cover up.

doesn't matter if the citizen was a jerk, THEY outed him to cover up.

Posted by: willow at October 10, 2012 10:34 AM (hX8cq)

542

The Brits warned us.

They warned us two weeks before 9/11/12...that something was going on, and that they were getting their people out.

They closed down their consulate...and left.

I suspect that this is where Carney and the WH is trying to go...in claiming that our Ambassador and the the 3 others "gave their lives willingly".

Which is outrageous.

Our people were begging for help.

It's not like they were staying there...to 'give their lives willingly'.

Posted by: wheatie at October 10, 2012 10:34 AM (l5RhJ)

543 Nordstrom, apparently another twit that was appointed to a critical position abroad and failed at it.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at October 10, 2012 10:35 AM (9eDbm)

544 Rep Jordan is awesome.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at October 10, 2012 10:35 AM (baL2B)

545

Ghazi-Gate.

Posted by: Cluebat from Exodar at October 10, 2012 10:35 AM (JSetw)

546 The 'ranking member' is an a$$hole.

Posted by: marinemom at October 10, 2012 10:35 AM (OKtOV)

547 I hate this Connolly bastard. Get the hell out of my state!

Posted by: RWC at October 10, 2012 10:36 AM (fWAjv)

548 Hey Democrats! Stick to todays topic.

Posted by: concrete girl at October 10, 2012 10:37 AM (y2Ojs)

549 LTC Wood: I voiced my concerns at the country team meeting. Although it was a difficult thing, the country team was left with no options at that point to try and change the security profile there in Benghazi. The resources had been withdrawn, the decision to not renew the SST was pretty much a foregone conclusion by that point in time, but I urged them to do something, and anything to include withdrawal from Benghazi although I knew that was impossible at the time.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 10:37 AM (r2PLg)

550 why do so many democrats in congress look like members of the rat family?

slap a couple of ears and a whiskers on this Connolly fucktard and i swear its a stunt double from Ratatouille

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 10, 2012 10:38 AM (ovpNn)

551 Trying to discredit Col. Wood.

Posted by: BignJames at October 10, 2012 10:38 AM (rlFQ+)

552 Well I hope what President Obama described as bumps in the road rip the wheels off his bus, causing it to crash.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 10, 2012 10:38 AM (a0qpy)

553 391 Kucinich and Ron Paul must be real fun together. Posted by: Wisrich Ugg, did not need that visual. Thanks. Agree .....very disturbing .....

Posted by: grumpy momma bear at October 10, 2012 10:38 AM (j1Ggx)

554 WHO IS THIS RAT FUCK?

Posted by: Snoop Dogg's Index Finger at October 10, 2012 10:38 AM (Mj4Zt)

555 Why do the dems always go after the person giving the information?

Posted by: pray for peace at October 10, 2012 10:39 AM (oZfic)

556 563 Who is sending US military to Jordan? Posted by: pray for peace at October 10, 2012 02:34 PM (oZfic) The Nobel Peace Prize preezy.

Posted by: RWC at October 10, 2012 10:39 AM (fWAjv)

557

"Carney is representative of Stalin era spokespeople."

Damn.

Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 10:39 AM (jx2j9)

558 LIBYA AS A FUCKIN STAFF MEMBER? YOU RAT FUCK BASTARD

Posted by: Snoop Dogg's Index Finger at October 10, 2012 10:39 AM (Mj4Zt)

559 'It's hard for me and others to follow..' That is because you are an idiot.

Posted by: marinemom at October 10, 2012 10:39 AM (OKtOV)

560 Nordstrom, apparently another twit that was appointed to a critical position abroad and failed at it.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at October 10, 2012 02:35 PM (9eDbm)

Nordstrom's position in Tripoli ended in July 2012. HE WAS NOT THERE WHEN THIS HAPPENED. Geez, he and Wood are there to report how their requests were denied, etc. I think one would call them blowing the whistle.

Posted by: joanne at October 10, 2012 10:39 AM (VNFBf)

561 Well there is one Democrat in Congress who does not resemble a rat. Henry Waxman looks like the Phantom of the Opera.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 10, 2012 10:40 AM (a0qpy)

562 I'll add one more comment to clarify my position on Nakoula Basseley Nakoula. It was absolutely wrong how the President and Secretary of State used his video to coverup their ineptitude regarding the security of their ambassador and his mission in Benghazi. It was beyond disgusting. It's reprehensible in the extreme. They painted a target on Nakoula's back and should not have done so. As far as I'm concerned, the US owes him protection. At the same time, his identity was outed primarily because he called the media from his own phone alleging he'd raised a bunch of money for the video. He violated his parole in several ways, not just the money and the alias. So I don't blame prosecutors for his arrest and re-imprisonment. They did their job. I'm not going to tar them because the President and Sec State are dishonest assholes willing to play with people's lives and get them killed to serve their own personal agendas.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 10:41 AM (u8eBQ)

563 Findings: Govment is a clusterf#ck. Oh, and by the way, we want to run your healthcare.

Posted by: Sophistahick at October 10, 2012 10:43 AM (UhXzR)

564 578 Why do the dems always go after the person giving the information? Posted by: pray for peace at October 10, 2012 02:39 PM (oZfic) The only thing Dems prize is credibility. Whoever is testifying against them will be raked int he mud. Joe the Plumber, etc etc etc. They always always always always fling poo at the accuser.

Posted by: cajun carrot at October 10, 2012 10:43 AM (UZQM8)

565 lol Sophistahick. Exactly.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 10:43 AM (u8eBQ)

566 LTC Wood: I initially tried to make contact with Senator McCain because he had made several visits to Tripoli--I was unable to get a response fro his office. ______________ OM gawd.... Oh my gawd.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 10:44 AM (r2PLg)

567 Labrador puts the bite on Kennedy.

Posted by: concrete girl at October 10, 2012 10:44 AM (y2Ojs)

568 Where did Issa go? Is he back? I am behind as I did not want to miss a thing in this incompetent exposure of the State Dept.

Somehow Kucinish is sort of helping? Yapping about rocket propelled missiles missing.

Lt. Col Wood: Al Qaeda is certainly more present than we are!!! Whoa.

Chafetz is awesome, too. Danger rising, increase pay but not security. Winning!
No buildings met standards. Great!

August 20th cable "security vacuum." Sept 1st Maximum Alert. Chafetz is po'd and representing the American public well.

Lt. Col Wood is a hero. May God bless and protect him.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at October 10, 2012 10:45 AM (baL2B)

569 Evolving. From ameoba to Human in one week. Fantastic.

Posted by: Sophistahick at October 10, 2012 10:45 AM (UhXzR)

570 This is clearly Jack Ryan's fault.

Posted by: cajun carrot at October 10, 2012 10:46 AM (UZQM8)

571 If you are an Arizona moron-- And you can get a RESPONSE from McCain's office as to why they IGNORED LTC Wood--please, please--bring them the heat. Ask them why.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 10:47 AM (r2PLg)

572 "It was instantly recognizable to me as a terrorist attack" duh, it was instantly recognizable as a terrorist attack by your garden variety American citizen too...even the low information voters got it, what took the administration so long?

Posted by: pray for peace at October 10, 2012 10:47 AM (oZfic)

573

Kennedy is taking a machete to himself. He's cutting his own throat. I hope his career was worth it.

Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 10:48 AM (jx2j9)

574 @KatrinaTrino Wood says it was "instantly recognizable" to him that Benghazi attack was terrorism

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 10, 2012 10:48 AM (YjDyJ)

575 Labrador calling it like it is regarding Rice.

Posted by: Wisrich at October 10, 2012 10:48 AM (hdpay)

576 Yes, yes, yes. Labrador hits on what's is important. Rice knew she was blowing smoke to cover up what really happened.

Posted by: marinemom at October 10, 2012 10:49 AM (OKtOV)

577 Kennedy prick:
"Hey -I- thought it was a terrorist immediately. But 'reports' said otherwise."

Wood, Nordstrom "Instantly recognizable".

-> Three observers accepting "reports" over their own lying eyes.

Posted by: Al at October 10, 2012 10:49 AM (MzQOZ)

578 Oh great. A history lesson! My favorite.

Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 10:49 AM (jx2j9)

579

This guy Davis it trying to put everyone to sleep.

Posted by: wheatie at October 10, 2012 10:49 AM (l5RhJ)

580 That Assbamsador Kennedy sure is having a hard time saying stuff that passes the clear elocution test with all that CoverUpForObamaCock in his mouth.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 10, 2012 10:50 AM (ovpNn)

581 Wow. Wow. Wow. Must see (and totally on topic). http://goo.gl/2AG4e Wow.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 10:50 AM (u8eBQ)

582 @KatiePavlich "Instant terrorist attack" "we were the last flag flying, it was a matter of time" "I almost expected the attack." -Lt. Col. Wood #libya

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 10, 2012 10:50 AM (YjDyJ)

583 Senator McCain's office--what the hell is wrong with those people?

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 10:51 AM (r2PLg)

584 Great! Kennedy on a soap box. STFU you bullshit spewing fuck.

Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 10:51 AM (jx2j9)

585 Thousands of hand held missile systems capable of shooting down an airliner missing.

Good going, Obama!

Posted by: PJ at October 10, 2012 10:51 AM (DQHjw)

586 These are the fuckers we have been waiting for?

Posted by: TFG at October 10, 2012 10:52 AM (UZQM8)

587 Ambassador Kennedy may be a pederast. I have several multiple conflicting reports, but that is the conclusion I was told to go with. Kennedy is s pederast.

Posted by: Stacy at October 10, 2012 10:52 AM (bKOZG)

588 Oh, sorry, not as on topic as I thought. I got Chris Horton mixed up with the two ex Navy SEALs who died in Benghazi. Nonetheless, it's a moving story.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 10:52 AM (u8eBQ)

589

Oh...this is rich.

"We had to have a presence there in Benghazi"...because it was such an important place in the Lybian Revolution.

So this is their new excuse?

gah.

Posted by: wheatie at October 10, 2012 10:53 AM (l5RhJ)

590 he's making the point that the Libyan state was very weak post-revolution Noooo. Really? *head>------------>desk* Brilliant! Just. .......fucking. ........brilliant.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at October 10, 2012 10:54 AM (teJLm)

591 "Hope" that everything will be OK.. Hope and Change President. How's that working out?

Posted by: marinemom at October 10, 2012 10:54 AM (OKtOV)

592 http://goo.gl/2AG4e

Wow.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 02:50 PM (u8eBQ)

Go to the link!

Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 10:54 AM (jx2j9)

593 Nordstrom: "It was HOPE that everything would get better."

Now where have I heard that word before?

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 10:54 AM (X6akg)

594 Issa is going to be one busy mutha after jan 20th.

Posted by: cajun carrot at October 10, 2012 10:54 AM (UZQM8)

595 "Gosh, yes. A special forces dude is better than a local with a gun."

Posted by: Al at October 10, 2012 10:58 AM (MzQOZ)

596 Really? Lamb just equated Libyan rent-a-soldiers with our Special Forces? WTF.

Posted by: RWC at October 10, 2012 10:59 AM (fWAjv)

597 Kennedy, Are you fucking serious???!?! We can't repel an attack of 150 ppl against a building?

Posted by: cajun carrot at October 10, 2012 11:01 AM (UZQM8)

598 This is the guy that's running against Linda McMahon.

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 11:03 AM (X6akg)

599 585 Random,

Excellent summation.

The coverup won't get any play because Nakoula did break the law.

The prosecutors did their jobs, but the late night arrest and sheer political expediency displayed is terrifying.

When was that last time anyone was arrested for a nonviolent parole violation in the middle of the night? That is a show up at the hearing next week and we'll see if you're going back to jail offense. And the answer is usually no.

I can only imagine the administration was thrilled to have an reason for the arrest, and the prosecutors were annoyed, because now they have to keep this guy alive in holding.

Posted by: Johan at October 10, 2012 11:03 AM (ANMrK)

600 Kennedy,

Are you fucking serious???!?! We can't repel an attack of 150 ppl against a building?

Posted by: cajun carrot at October 10, 2012 03:01 PM (UZQM

Idiot, remember the Alamo

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 10, 2012 11:03 AM (nTgAI)

601 Kennedy is spouting bullshit again. The situation in Libya was not a typical situation. It was clearly Indian country and the U.S. went there armed with pea shooters.

Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 11:03 AM (jx2j9)

602 >>>Lamb just equated Libyan rent-a-soldiers with our Special Forces? WTF. She's from headquarters. Besides, look at her. So of course she's deputy assistant secretary of state for international programs in the Bureau of Diplomatic Security. The fact that she said that and she's in her position is just damning. This should be put in ads. This is something everyone can relate to. FEW AMERICANS are going to buy this line of thinking. For God sakes, of course the special forces are better. They're not supermen, but they're good, they're damn good.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 11:04 AM (u8eBQ)

603 >>>Libyan rent-a-soldiers Were these the unpaid Lybian rent-a-soldiers receiving a $30 stipend for food, but no pay? I'm sure they're totally willing to fight to the death for Americans. Hell, the Marines are a loyal bunch. What do you think their morale would be like if they weren't being paid?

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 11:05 AM (u8eBQ)

604 This is nothing but political on the part of the Administration.
The entire point of blaming the YouTube video is to tie it into the remarks made by Republican Mitt Romney in regard to the Cairo protests that the MSM jumped all over him.

It is now clear that neither of these protests were about the YouTube video (except perhaps at the suggestion of the Obama Administration).

Muhammed Al Zawahiri (brother of Ayman Al Zawahiri) called for the Cairo protests to get the release of Omar Abdel-Rahman, the Blind sheik, on 9-11 (as shown in this video which show a CNN report from 9/9 that CNN hasn't shown except to it's affiliates).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M86ndC4V7EQ

Why the American embassy decided to blame it on the YouTube video is anybody's guess, but it was the embassy's remarks in regard to the video that spurred Mitt Romney biting comments, which seem to have prompted the Administration to make the linkage to the video for both embassies.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at October 10, 2012 11:08 AM (e8kgV)

605 What? They're just as good as our S.F. http://tinyurl.com/36xzw3e

Posted by: Charlene Lamb - Deputy ASS at October 10, 2012 11:09 AM (fWAjv)

606 Save for a Republican House, there would be no hearings.

Posted by: Craig Poe at October 10, 2012 11:13 AM (BVkEs)

607 Go Mr. Kelly! Whoever the f--- you are. But go, man, go.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 11:16 AM (u8eBQ)

608 God Bless you MIke Kelly God Bless you!

Posted by: pray for peace at October 10, 2012 11:19 AM (oZfic)

609 "This thing SMELLS" ... "...I feel sorry for you..." Wow. Rep. Kelly is awesome!

Posted by: Optimizer at October 10, 2012 11:20 AM (As94z)

610 THIS!! Go Mr. Kelly. We all knew the video idea was crap. Most of it us knew it from the very first. Why didn't you? Oh wait, you did!

Posted by: marinemom at October 10, 2012 11:20 AM (OKtOV)

611 Priorities? Not security....Chevy volts!

Posted by: BignJames at October 10, 2012 11:22 AM (rlFQ+)

612 Rep Mike Kelly -PA just had a "have you no shame?" moment. God bless him.

Posted by: Craig Poe at October 10, 2012 11:23 AM (BVkEs)

613 Damn good point: "They [the special forces team] made a difference every single day I was there. They were a deterrent effect." -- Lt. Col. Andrew Wood

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 11:25 AM (u8eBQ)

614 So basically Americans are dead because the request for more support wasn't filled out in triplicate on A4 bonded paper. Amiright?

Posted by: RWC at October 10, 2012 11:25 AM (fWAjv)

615 Preference cascade?? Listening to shepherd smith and even he is outraged. And there seems to be a tone change re hs attitude of the Obama admin. I may be having a magical thinking issue but I have also sensed an attitude change in other reporters

Posted by: Sunny at October 10, 2012 11:26 AM (0Uosd)

616 Ah. Here is the guy I was asking about. Go get 'em Gowdy!

Posted by: RWC at October 10, 2012 11:27 AM (fWAjv)

617 Trey! My rep!

Posted by: BignJames at October 10, 2012 11:27 AM (rlFQ+)

618 From what I hear, Special Forces have ops roughly every day, on average, and in practically every country on Earth.

Posted by: Optimizer at October 10, 2012 11:27 AM (As94z)

619 Trey Gowdy is someone to fear.

Posted by: Craig Poe at October 10, 2012 11:27 AM (BVkEs)

620 Whoa! Cong. Ross to Amb. Kennedy: "Then it was professional protocol malfeasance."

Oh good! Trey Gowdy is up! This outta be good.

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 11:28 AM (X6akg)

621 So basically Americans are dead because the request for more support wasn't filled out in triplicate on A4 bonded paper.

No. Because the State geeks prefer non-military support. And locals over Americans.

Posted by: Al at October 10, 2012 11:28 AM (MzQOZ)

622 fap fap fap fap fap

Posted by: RWC at October 10, 2012 11:29 AM (fWAjv)

623 Dear God: Give Gowdy -all- the rest of the fucking time.

Posted by: Al at October 10, 2012 11:29 AM (MzQOZ)

624 I'm typing with one hand.....

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 11:30 AM (X6akg)

625

"637 So basically Americans are dead because the request for more support wasn't filled out in triplicate on A4 bonded paper.

Amiright?"

No. As I understand it, it wasn't a "Go back and do your paperwork right!" situation; it was a "Stop calling us!" situation.

Posted by: Optimizer at October 10, 2012 11:30 AM (As94z)

626 I love this guy. Why can't all of our reps be this way?

Posted by: marinemom at October 10, 2012 11:30 AM (OKtOV)

627 Trey Gowdy, God Bless You... A true patriot!

Posted by: pray for peace at October 10, 2012 11:30 AM (oZfic)

628 HOLY SHIT THAT WAS A GOWDY SMACKDOWN!

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 10, 2012 11:31 AM (ovpNn)

629 Optics...lots of Democrat empty chairs on this committee.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at October 10, 2012 11:31 AM (baL2B)

630 Gowdy Smackdown like Romney in a Debate

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 10, 2012 11:31 AM (ovpNn)

631 FUCK U CUMMINGS!

Posted by: RWC at October 10, 2012 11:32 AM (fWAjv)

632 Accusing Rice of Lying is a serious staement but NOT AS MOTHER FUCKING SERIOUS AS THE FACT THAT SHE DID LIE!

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 10, 2012 11:32 AM (ovpNn)

633 God is texting Elijah?

Posted by: Craig Poe at October 10, 2012 11:33 AM (BVkEs)

634 Mr. Cummings I'd venture to guess that most Americans with a brain are thinking that perhaps Rice was being political and not truthful.

Posted by: pray for peace at October 10, 2012 11:33 AM (oZfic)

635 Where did the info come from, Cummings?

Posted by: BignJames at October 10, 2012 11:33 AM (rlFQ+)

636 >>>No. Because the State geeks prefer non-military support. And locals over Americans. Well why wouldn't the State Department prefer them? They're members of the "17th February Martyrs Brigade", they work for food and don't sweat not being paid for months, and they're every bit as good as US Special Forces.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 11:34 AM (u8eBQ)

637 If Rice wasn't lying and she really believed the crap she spewed then she is too dumber than dog doo and shouldn't even be dogcatcher let alone the Ambassador.

Posted by: marinemom at October 10, 2012 11:34 AM (OKtOV)

638 It's all word parsing "based on the information we had at the time" is like a pass go a collect two hundred dollars card, apparently if you say that you are then allowed to lie.

Posted by: pray for peace at October 10, 2012 11:35 AM (oZfic)

639 Lamb just said there is nowhere in the world where additional security is being requested that don't have what they want. WTF? So Lybia was the only one? She's agreeing it was volatile? And she's claiming they had what they want?

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 11:36 AM (u8eBQ)

640 Ha. Nordstrom is now reaming out Lamb's contention that he didn't provide specific detailed requests of what he wanted. Would be funny if it wasn't so tragic and sad.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 11:37 AM (u8eBQ)

641 "A cookie cutter approach or some kind of a plan was being applied to us out there in the field" Wood just said this, let those words sink in

Posted by: pray for peace at October 10, 2012 11:38 AM (oZfic)

642 So...the argument of the Dems (so far) are these points:
1) Budget cuts by bipartisan House (with one more Dem vote) when there is not a budget for four years by Congress under Obunky
2) Stuff happens (history lessons of many embassy attacks under various presidents. So! No harm, no foul!
3) They pretty much have: nothing.

In reality, here we have:
1) Huge lack of security except for locals on a food stipend
2) Requested security denied repeatedly by someone in State Dept
3) Four people dead due to incompetence
4) Four people dead due to incompetence on 9/11/12
5) Republicans are much smarter than Dems when they have to speak
6) Obama and Hillary lied, people died
7) Susan Rice lied

It took over 3 weeks for the truth to start leaking out
9) The State Dept only started cooperating last night with Rep. Issa
10) The lies continue with Ambassador Kennedy continuing, today, under oath, that there were protests over the video
11) Lt. Col Wood is a national hero
12) The reason for the lies were to protect an incumbent president vs the truth to the American people of a terrorist attack on 9/11/12.
13) We have to win on 11/6/12 and throw these thugs out of office

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at October 10, 2012 11:39 AM (baL2B)

643 Lamb just said it wasn't a lack of money, point blank. So that defense is inoperative, unless the administration wants to contradict her.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 11:40 AM (u8eBQ)

644 'Unprecedented attack" oh my how could we have known and what were we supposed to do. We had our plan in place and it is not our fault that the situation didn't conflate with that. It's the terrorists' fault for not fitting their attack to our plan.

Posted by: marinemom at October 10, 2012 11:43 AM (OKtOV)

645 667 'Unprecedented attack" oh my how could we have known and what were we supposed to do. We had our plan in place and it is not our fault that the situation didn't conflate with that. It's the terrorists' fault for not fitting their attack to our plan.

Posted by: marinemom at October 10, 2012 03:43 PM (OKtOV)

Unprecedented? Seriously? On the Anniversary of 911, after the British consulate left two weeks before because of the threat and after the Ambassador himself said he was afraid of an attack? Seriously?

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 11:45 AM (9+ccr)

646 Lamb feels that it was an unprecedented attack, not me.

Posted by: marinemom at October 10, 2012 11:47 AM (OKtOV)

647 I love this lady.

Posted by: marinemom at October 10, 2012 11:48 AM (OKtOV)

648 Good Lord....Lamb is a friggin' idiot!

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 11:48 AM (X6akg)

649 Is Lamb playing that dumb?

Posted by: BignJames at October 10, 2012 11:48 AM (rlFQ+)

650 Ambassador Kenedy is clearly rattled. Ms Lamb is more than rattled, she has a rash.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at October 10, 2012 11:49 AM (baL2B)

651 Sandy Adams is kicking ass AND taking names.

Posted by: Craig Poe at October 10, 2012 11:49 AM (BVkEs)

652 Hahaha!

Issa just said, "on the conference call with everybody EXCEPT Fox."

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 11:52 AM (X6akg)

653

"....and I don't think you're gonna get an answer out of him on that subject, but I appreciate your effort."

Issa...to Sandy Adams.

Ha.

Posted by: wheatie at October 10, 2012 11:54 AM (l5RhJ)

654 Kennedy is getting pissy like a bitch

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 10, 2012 11:54 AM (ovpNn)

655 Did Kennedy bring ANYTHING with him to a congressional hearing?!

WTF?!

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 11:56 AM (X6akg)

656 "Smart Diplomacy".....I ain't seein' it.

Posted by: BignJames at October 10, 2012 11:57 AM (rlFQ+)

657 Let me apologize to you Miss Lamb for the Republicans actually asking you questions and expecting you to have answers. So cruel of them.

Posted by: marinemom at October 10, 2012 11:57 AM (OKtOV)

658 She IS incompetent.

Posted by: marinemom at October 10, 2012 11:58 AM (OKtOV)

659 Lamb throws her seniors under the bus, thanks to Sandy Adams. Movin' on up...the chain.

Posted by: Craig Poe at October 10, 2012 11:58 AM (BVkEs)

660 Aaw, Cummings gets all touchy feely with Lamb.

Posted by: concrete girl at October 10, 2012 12:00 PM (y2Ojs)

661 The guy behind Silence of the Lamb is hilarious. He just completely zonked the eff out.

Posted by: Stacy at October 10, 2012 12:01 PM (bKOZG)

662 Kennedy is zombie Kim Jong il

Posted by: Stacy at October 10, 2012 12:04 PM (bKOZG)

663 Holy shit. The Secret Service is going to be very busy with all the 'threats' against Romney. Check out the Twitchy/Tampon ban part.

Posted by: RWC at October 10, 2012 12:07 PM (fWAjv)

664 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 12:07 PM (6o4Fb)

665

Kennedy..."It was bad, sorta bad, but not that bad..."

Posted by: concrete girl at October 10, 2012 12:07 PM (y2Ojs)

666 In the future to get these jobs they must ask the question of the interviewee "Do you possess common sense and if you do are you able to assume leadership?"

Posted by: pray for peace at October 10, 2012 12:09 PM (oZfic)

667 Nordstrom and Woods. Patriots.

Posted by: Craig Poe at October 10, 2012 12:10 PM (BVkEs)

668 Nordstrom and Woods. Patriots. Posted by: Craig Poe at October 10, 2012 04:10 PM Yes they are. And they better watch their backs.

Posted by: marinemom at October 10, 2012 12:11 PM (OKtOV)

669 nordstrom felt the heat comin n flipped. i think this was pointed out earlier.

Posted by: Snoop Dogg's Index Finger at October 10, 2012 12:12 PM (Mj4Zt)

670 Sorry, Lt. Col. Andrew Wood. (hate to get a name wrong)

Posted by: Craig Poe at October 10, 2012 12:15 PM (BVkEs)

671 Yes they are. And they better watch their backs.

Posted by: marinemom at October 10, 2012 04:11 PM (OKtOV)

I think that's why Issa publicly said something to the effect of, "Come to this committee if anything happens."

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 12:15 PM (X6akg)

672 This is basically a civilian mutiny. A critical mass of bureaucrats decided since this administration won't protect us, we won't back up their lies. Remember that Stevens was not a political appointee. He was career State Department. He knew Libya, had been stationed there for years, had asked for more security and had the requests denied by the political/academic types pukes who thought they knew better. That makes it a personal concern not just for every State department employee and their families but for employees of every other agency that sends people overseas.

Posted by: NC Mountain Girl at October 10, 2012 12:16 PM (EACTU)

673 The CSpan callers are not pleased.

Posted by: pray for peace at October 10, 2012 12:16 PM (oZfic)

674 Republican Congressmen: wow. Just wow. Thank you.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at October 10, 2012 12:25 PM (baL2B)

675 693 Sorry, Lt. Col. Andrew Wood. (hate to get a name wrong) Posted by: Craig Poe at October 10, 2012 04:15 PM (BVkEs Heh, I got the Ambassador's name wrong and nobody said anything. Stevens, Smith, it's all the same.

Posted by: Elijah Cummings at October 10, 2012 12:27 PM (fWAjv)

676 >>> nordstrom felt the heat comin n flipped. i think this was pointed out earlier. You saw that too, eh? I thought that was what he did. Issa must have saw it too, what with that big speech at the end that the committee will protect them if anyone brings pressure to bear on them. I think Issa knows nordstrom is the weak link, susceptible to pressure from the administration.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 12:31 PM (u8eBQ)

677

Nordstrom may be simply trying to step out of the bus lane but his comments re: "..respond to the aftermath" and ".. how thin does the ice have to get..." should be repeated over and over by any American serving overseas.

Posted by: Old Bob at October 10, 2012 01:00 PM (o4FoH)

678 Blind, incompetent stupidity from the Shoeshine Boy-in-Chief. Lies. Fraud. Betrayal. Subversion. Ruin. Death. War. Obama's stock in trade. So the jerk mobilizes his shameless media meat-loafs and dispatches his legions of credulous leftard phonies to mislead and distract the American people on every issue vital to their country, a month before the national election.

Bill "the Zipper" Clinton's excuse: "Nobody could have done it better!" How would Lord Lewinsky know? But we've seen Democrats in action! That's why we call these ludicrous sociopaths "the Rat Party." How soon before it dawns on them that bin Laden is not dead? He's sitting in the Oval Office, taking orders from Big Bird.

Posted by: Tulsa jack at October 10, 2012 01:00 PM (htaLu)

679 That Tootsie Lamb woman had to be forced by Rep Adams to utter the words "Al Qaeda" as the terrorist group to be concerned with on 9/11. Despicable, this administration and State Dept.

I am very impressed with Congressman Issa and the other Republicans.

Here is the bus list, so far:
Rice
Lamb and her two superiors that she uttered between gritted teeth
Kennedy

Bill will protect Hillary. He is her insurance. But she should be held accountable as should Barry O the Sunshine Man.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, unbanned, ready to get this done at October 10, 2012 01:43 PM (baL2B)

680 Here's a video of Lamb not saying Al Qaida. http://goo.gl/lmOul

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 01:59 PM (u8eBQ)

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