January 26, 2012

Media Stenography Watch
— Ace

Reporters have two problems: They're liberal, and they're lazy.

Before the SOTU, Obama's people leaked portions of the script. They announced to the media the tone they were seeking was "optimistic" and "Reaganesque," so the media would understand the tone they heard after they'd heard it.

They'd actually given the media its story for them.

I joked in the live-blog that we'd soon be seeing the headlines...

NYT: IN A SOARING, OPTIMISTIC SPEECH RECALLING REAGAN...

Whoopie Goldberg: That was so optimistic. Joy Behar: Almost Reaganesque.

Time: In a 65 minute speech brimming with optimism and Reaganesque flourishes...

Washington Post: Although Republicans sat on their hands throughout, Obama's mood was light and optimistic throughout the speech. At times, one might have mistake him for another Great Communicator -- Ronald Reagan.

Brian Willims: Certainly it was one of his most optimistic, Reagan-like performances...

Those were jokey semi-predictions. But here's the reality, at The Hill.

Confident Obama Struts His Stuff

A relaxed, confident Barack Obama hit a pitch-perfect high note last week at the famed Apollo Theater in New York.

President Obama sang, “I’m so in love with you” — from Al Green’s hit “Let’s Stay Together” — and showed the world just how comfortable — if not sanguine — he is as he heads into the election year.

Note a lot of these words, like sanguine, just mean optimistic.

....

Both public appearances illustrate the assuredness and moxie the president has exhibited in his quest for another term. They also highlight a stark contrast with Mitt Romney, who has appeared unconfident and downright clunky in recent weeks, as he has dealt with a series of missteps having to do with his wealth and income tax filings.

Observers say itÂ’s probably no coincidence a seemingly self-satisfied (and singing!) Obama has emerged in recent weeks, given a string of political victories and signs the economy is improving.

“Their internal polling is probably showing that things have steadied a bit and is giving him a bit of a boost,” said Tobe Berkovitz, a professor at Boston University who specializes in political communications.

Their internal polling is probably showing that??!!

What if I drew the opposite conclusion and said it's probably showing him doing horribly with independents, the same as public polls? And so they had attempted to change the story by projecting "Reaganesque" "optimism"?

Could I get quoted in The Hill for my "probably"?

Of course not; Obama told them which story to write, and they're writing it.

I didn't watch the coverage to see if my optimistic/Reaganesque joke became the reality. If you noticed, please let me know, include the link or the quotes.

Posted by: Ace at 06:54 AM | Comments (314)
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1 Seeing red....

So, when a progg scrunt like Behar calls something "Reaganesque" that's a slam, right?

Posted by: HeatherRadish needs italics. And a beer. at January 26, 2012 06:56 AM (ZKzrr)

2 Wow, I'm second?  Where is everyone?  At the Lunar Base?

Posted by: Country Singer at January 26, 2012 06:57 AM (L8r/r)

3 Does the AoSHQ have a mailing address?

Posted by: Serious Cat at January 26, 2012 06:59 AM (2YIVk)

4 What can I, ummmm, say?...they, uhhhhhh, love me!

Posted by: TEH WON at January 26, 2012 06:59 AM (GsBJY)

5 Issa Demands Access to Second US Attorney who Supervised Operation Fast and Furious

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa demanded in letter to Attorney General Holder that the Justice Department make Arizona U.S. Attorney's Office Assistant United States Attorney Michael Morrissey available to speak with Committee investigators about his role in and knowledge of Operation Fast and Furious. His supervisor, Patrick Cunningham, has stated he will exercise his Fifth Amendment and refuse to answer any questions pertaining to Operation Fast and Furious – such an assertion is extremely rare and suggests possible criminal culpability on the part of a high ranking Justice Department official. Morrissey, who reported directly to Cunningham's and was intimately involved with Operation Fast and Furious.

Posted by: Clark Judge at January 26, 2012 07:00 AM (e8kgV)

6 They say Reaganesque, I say it was the same fucking speech as last year, minus the Solyndra reference.

Posted by: Meggy Mac at January 26, 2012 07:00 AM (5wsU9)

7 So, the italics and bold etc. are working for posts, but not for comments?  C'mon Ace, Pixy, whomever...it's either that or I start CONSTANTLY WRITING IN ALL CAPS TO SHOW EMPHASIS again.

Posted by: Jeff B. at January 26, 2012 07:00 AM (23Ios)

8 I'm probably going to be schtupping Scarlett Johanssen tonight. (Which is at least as believable as The Hill.)

Posted by: joncelli, who is married at January 26, 2012 07:03 AM (RD7QR)

9 Media puts the best spin on things for their favorite candidate.  News at eleven. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 26, 2012 07:03 AM (5H6zj)

10 This is not new - this type of thing has been going on since the beginning of his term.  The MFM parrots anything and everything Barky's handlers tell them to.  He's been doing the MFM a favor by not having any real press conferences since last summer.  This helps the MFM save face by not being put in a position to ask any tough questions that could embarrass both of them. 

Posted by: Not an Artist at January 26, 2012 07:03 AM (fOPv7)

11 Pixy's working on something more important-- getting the new site ready to go.

Posted by: ace at January 26, 2012 07:04 AM (nj1bB)

12 Wait....you mean the media is in the tank for Obama?!  Well I'll be damned....

Posted by: Tami at January 26, 2012 07:04 AM (X6akg)

13 I would characterize him as SCFOAMFesque.

Posted by: maddogg at January 26, 2012 07:05 AM (OlN4e)

14

>>Posted by: ace at January 26, 2012 11:04 AM (nj1bB)

 

Perhaps I missed an announcement?

Posted by: maddogg at January 26, 2012 07:06 AM (OlN4e)

15 Why should I care about slanting in the MfM when I can get it right here.

I'm bitter like a bowl of Marrianne today and hating the game.

Posted by: SarahW at January 26, 2012 07:06 AM (LYwCh)

16 Talk about living in a bubble....

Posted by: mpfs at January 26, 2012 07:06 AM (iYbLN)

17

"Both public appearances illustrate the assuredness and moxie the president has exhibited in his quest for another term. They also highlight a stark contrast with Mitt Romney, who has appeared unconfident and downright clunky in recent weeks, as he has dealt with a series of missteps having to do with his wealth and income tax filings."

NO bias there.

Posted by: whatever at January 26, 2012 07:06 AM (O7ksG)

18 The MFM does not work for the Democrats, or with the Democrats, it is the Democrats.

Posted by: eman at January 26, 2012 07:07 AM (pn8u0)

19 >>Perhaps I missed an announcement?

I don't recall seeing one either, though honestly after the debacle the other day the need for a rework was pretty obvious.

Posted by: DarkLord©, Rogue Commenter at January 26, 2012 07:08 AM (GBXon)

20 Is there another debate tonight?

Posted by: Y-not at January 26, 2012 07:08 AM (5H6zj)

21 Some scrunt on CNN claims Reagan would be a Democrat today.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2012 07:08 AM (UOM48)

22 Reagan must be rolling over in his grave. .....Poor man cannot get any peace.

Posted by: wheatie at January 26, 2012 07:09 AM (ALwK/)

23 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Team Meteor. Now with Cheesecake at January 26, 2012 07:10 AM (8y9MW)

24 11 Pixy's working on something more important-- getting the new site ready to go.

Posted by: ace at January 26, 2012 11:04 AM (nj1bB)


WOOOHOOOOOOO!!!! Is there an ETA? Will it have the you code, or whatever the hell that is?

Posted by: joncelli, who is married at January 26, 2012 07:10 AM (RD7QR)

25 Is it too late to run Jan Brewer for president?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2012 07:10 AM (UOM48)

26

20 Is there another debate tonight?

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Yeah....a CNN one, I think.

Posted by: wheatie at January 26, 2012 07:10 AM (ALwK/)

27 A Reaganesque speech?
Ronnie was not a Commie!
He loved his country.

Posted by: Gran at January 26, 2012 07:10 AM (PxzSs)

28 25 Is it too late to run Jan Brewer for president?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2012 11:10 AM (UOM4


The debate alone would make it worthwhile.

Posted by: joncelli, who is married at January 26, 2012 07:11 AM (RD7QR)

29 Kennedy would be a Republican today. Kennedy could not get elected in today's Democratic party.

Posted by: Serious Cat at January 26, 2012 07:11 AM (2YIVk)

30 "reaganesque"??!! Does that mean they will now denounce him from the rooftops as a raaaacistgreedywarmongeringhatefilled moronic tool of the plutocracy??

Posted by: jewishodysseus at January 26, 2012 07:11 AM (p8Hnn)

31 . Yeah....a CNN one, I think. Posted by: wheatie at January 26, 2012 11:10 AM (ALwK/) Up next on CNN: Romney is out? Romney is out?!

Posted by: eman at January 26, 2012 07:12 AM (pn8u0)

32

The left are jealous. They hated Reagan back in the day and they hate him now. The leftwing media simply want to ride on Reagan's popularity coattails and hand Obama the popularity without the work.

 

Posted by: whatever at January 26, 2012 07:12 AM (O7ksG)

33

Serious Cat at January 26, 2012 11:11 AM

 

JFK and Newt in Vegas.

 

Good times. Good times.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 26, 2012 07:12 AM (kaOJx)

34 Something I've noticed since the blog has been broken.....is the absence of those ebook spam posts, after a thread is dead.  .....I wonder why.

Posted by: wheatie at January 26, 2012 07:12 AM (ALwK/)

35 Barack Obama is a SCOAMF.

Posted by: Gov. Jan Brewer at January 26, 2012 07:12 AM (UOM48)

36 >>>21 Some scrunt on CNN claims Reagan would be a Democrat today.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2012 11:08 AM (UOM4   Yeah. I'm sure RR would be so proud to be included in the ranks of Zero and Slick Willie, and would be having Harry Reid and Blank Stare Pelosi in the oval office for daily consultations on policy.

Posted by: maddogg at January 26, 2012 07:12 AM (OlN4e)

37 Pixy's working on something more important-- getting the new site ready to go.

Okay. fair enough.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Team Meteor. Now with Cheesecake at January 26, 2012 07:13 AM (8y9MW)

38 maybe by reaganesque they mean ghey like the ballerino reagan boy.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl....a voter without a candidate at January 26, 2012 07:13 AM (Ho2rs)

39 Goldberg and Behar.
Their IQ's combined equal
Bluto's GPA.
 

Posted by: Gran at January 26, 2012 07:13 AM (PxzSs)

40 Is there another debate tonight?

If it is a day of the week there must be another debate! Carrying the theme from the DOOM thread over,  the election was lost due to the Republicans getting bogged down in too many debates.

Posted by: RioBravo at January 26, 2012 07:14 AM (eEfYn)

41

Since I won't be able to watch or participate in the libe blog tonight, I'm going to go ahead and call Florida for Mitttens UNLESS Newt gets to bitch slap the moderator over the Reagan stuff.

 

4 point win for MItt in FL, Gingrich second, Santorum third, Paul won't get double digits.

 

Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 26, 2012 07:14 AM (kaOJx)

42 We have no italics......and no Butt-welded pipe fittings.

Posted by: wheatie at January 26, 2012 07:14 AM (ALwK/)

43 Joyless Behar was once a public school teacher.

And we wonder why our schools are producing so many mouth breathers.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2012 07:14 AM (UOM48)

44 Teleprompter or no teleprompter?

Posted by: EC at January 26, 2012 07:15 AM (GQ8sn)

45 It was warmed over from his last 2 State of The Unions? Not to mention it was full of half truths and lies. And he is a cock sucker

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 26, 2012 07:15 AM (i6RpT)

46

26 Is there another debate tonight?

Yeah. . .a CNN one, I think.

Oh, God, no.  Just stop the debates now.  Seriously, is there anyone watching these things for other than entertainment value?  If we're going to have content-free wrestling matches, let's go all the way.  Turn the debate stage into a big pool filled with baby oil and send Callista and Ann Romney out in bikinis and have them scratch each other's eyes out.

That at least I'd watch.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Clitoris at January 26, 2012 07:15 AM (zF6Iw)

47 43
Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. Those who can't teach...

Posted by: RioBravo at January 26, 2012 07:15 AM (eEfYn)

48 It's almost as if the media believe we've forgotten Reagan.  I suppose there are a significant number of voters who don't remember him due to age.

Posted by: Truman North at January 26, 2012 07:16 AM (I2LwF)

49 The company, Ener1, received a $118 million grant from DOE in 2010 as part of the presidentÂ’s stimulus package. The money, which went to Ener1 subsidiary EnerDel, aimed to promote renewable energy storage battery technology for electrical grid use.
On Thursday, Ener1 announced it will initiate a pre-packaged Chapter 11 bankruptcy plan as part of an agreement to restructure the companyÂ’s debt obligations.

Posted by: Dr. Chu at January 26, 2012 07:16 AM (e8kgV)

50 Italic test

Posted by: Tami at January 26, 2012 07:16 AM (X6akg)

51 43 Joyless Behar was once a public school teacher.

And we wonder why our schools are producing so many mouth breathers.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2012 11:14 AM (UOM4


Mrs. Behar, why do we study the same stuff over and over?

Posted by: Jimmy, who can't read at January 26, 2012 07:16 AM (RD7QR)

52 "Not to mention it was full of half truths..."

Hey, that's at least 50 more percentage points of truth in this one than the previous ones.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Team Meteor. Now with Cheesecake at January 26, 2012 07:16 AM (8y9MW)

53 We were proud of Presdent Obama, so damn proud on the Reagan like speech he gave to calm us down. We are booming with optimism this day after our presdent's vision for the future. Brattleboro loves you Presdent Obama !!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at January 26, 2012 07:16 AM (48wze)

54 From a liberal, isn't "Reaganesque" an insult?

Posted by: teh wind at January 26, 2012 07:16 AM (ekrQa)

55 JournoList 2.0 Cabalist lives

Posted by: J at January 26, 2012 07:16 AM (Cq/0w)

56

The authorette, Arnie Parnes, is a jewess:

http://tinyurl.com/7y65vhh

This is just standard issue bolshevik frankfurt school propaganda & disinfornation - pretty much exactly what
The Chosen have been serving up ever since day one of their "emancipation".

 

 

Posted by: Lillian Hellman at January 26, 2012 07:16 AM (Bjf6P)

57 @26

I hope the candidates manage to make tonight's debate about Obama's horrifying State of the Union address.


American Enterprise Institute's blog (http://tinyurl.com/7m68wsd) has a story up today about an academic study just published comparing Masscare and Obamacare.  In their article, they were predicting it would come up in the debate tonight. 

More helpful, perhaps, is this summary of the candidates' positions on health care (http://tinyurl.com/7frxojo).  It's from the Kaiser Foundation, but I've been poking through it and it looks well-sourced and I think it's basically fair.  (I believe Kaiser is an Obama-leaning foundation.) 

Posted by: Y-not at January 26, 2012 07:17 AM (5H6zj)

58 "Almost Reaganesque." ??

Most of these dohts never liked Reagan, so when they say "Almost Reaganesque" is that a compliment ?

Posted by: Bob Novak at January 26, 2012 07:17 AM (e8kgV)

59 Nope. Not even with ace's dick.

Posted by: Will Folks at January 26, 2012 07:17 AM (RD7QR)

60 Turn the debate stage into a big pool filled with baby oil and send Callista and Ann Romney out in bikinis and have them scratch each other's eyes out.

You owe me brain bleach.

Italic test

Hod did you get that to work?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Team Meteor. Now with Cheesecake at January 26, 2012 07:17 AM (8y9MW)

61 C'mon Ace, howsabout a post about Mitten's magic underwear or Newt's secret Nicaraguan love child. We haven't properly vented our spleens on this fine January morn.

Posted by: doc at January 26, 2012 07:17 AM (O3Yh7)

62 Obama and the MSM can't help but be delighted by the atomic bombing of Gingrich that Murdoch, Ailes, and Drudge are giving on behalf of Mitt.  At this rate, the country will see Obama as Reaganesque.


Posted by: Minnie Rodent at January 26, 2012 07:18 AM (S3rrR)

63 I wonder if everybody in Vermont is a stupid drooling idiot?

Posted by: maddogg at January 26, 2012 07:18 AM (OlN4e)

64 Does Behar really rise to the level of scrunt?

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2012 07:18 AM (w+PM8)

65 Another debate? Another chance to look bad?

Posted by: Where my italics be at January 26, 2012 07:18 AM (eEfYn)

66

49 Italic test
.

How did you do that, Tami?

Posted by: wheatie at January 26, 2012 07:18 AM (ALwK/)

67

"propaganda disinfornation" = propaganda & disinformation

 

Posted by: Lillian Hellman at January 26, 2012 07:19 AM (Bjf6P)

68 Hod did you get that to work?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Team Meteor. Now with Cheesecake at January 26, 2012 11:17 AM (8y9MW)


You have to use [ i] and [ /i] (without the extra spaces I put in.}

Posted by: Tami at January 26, 2012 07:19 AM (X6akg)

69 4 point win for MItt in FL, Gingrich second, Santorum third, Paul won't get double digits.
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I read somewhere this morning that Santorum is not even staying in Florida for the returns.  I can't recall the site, but they were taking that as a bad sign for him that his campaign is running out of steam. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 26, 2012 07:19 AM (5H6zj)

70 The rats are not so confident.  They are jumping ship!

http://tinyurl.com/7ofzovt

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at January 26, 2012 07:19 AM (tWFaN)

71 The Supremes had enought sense not to go this time. Too bad they couldn't send foam middle fingers to sit in their seats.

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2012 07:19 AM (w+PM8)

72 For weeks the MFM has dutifully been printing stories about the improving economy. Get ready for the full journalistic fellatio, 2012 version.

Posted by: real joe at January 26, 2012 07:19 AM (979FD)

73 The real issue here is that there hasn't been a single story that has reached "scandal" status with the MFM - although there are many that could and should have.  This gives you the sense of what we'll be fighting until election day - the MFM will never concentrate on a story that would harm the One.

Posted by: Not an Artist at January 26, 2012 07:19 AM (fOPv7)

74 Hey Ace, will the new site have up dings and downdings? The most advanced Ajax sites have those, you know. And what about cool photos of gates and bicycle seats?

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at January 26, 2012 07:19 AM (AsY5D)

75

Apparently the ampersand is forbidden.

 

Posted by: Lillian Hellman at January 26, 2012 07:20 AM (Bjf6P)

76 27 A Reaganesque speech?

I was around and paying attention when Reagan gave his speeches.  I don't remember the media being so enthusiastic about him then.  Apparently they really like dead people as speakers and voters. 

Posted by: pep at January 26, 2012 07:20 AM (YXmuI)

77

italic test

 

Posted by: wheatie at January 26, 2012 07:20 AM (ALwK/)

78 Stay klassy, Bill Maher:

My money is still on Mitt Romney. And I think he's going to get the nomination. And then I think Obama is going to beat him like a runaway sister wife. Yes, I do.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2012 07:20 AM (UOM48)

79 But I clearly suck on the line breaks.....

Posted by: Tami at January 26, 2012 07:20 AM (X6akg)

80 Can we trade Vermont to Canada for a six pack of Labatt's Blue ???

Posted by: Wall_E at January 26, 2012 07:20 AM (48wze)

81 like this?

or like this?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Team Meteor. Now with Cheesecake at January 26, 2012 07:20 AM (8y9MW)

82 Proud to be Italic

Posted by: real joe at January 26, 2012 07:20 AM (979FD)

83

If I were drunk and blindfolded, I'd do shit to Behar you wouldn't do to a farm animal.

 

Really, really drunk. And bored.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 26, 2012 07:20 AM (kaOJx)

84 Nope, didn't work. But I seem to have a new hash.

Posted by: real joe at January 26, 2012 07:20 AM (979FD)

85 bold test

Posted by: wheatie at January 26, 2012 07:21 AM (ALwK/)

86 Can we trade Vermont to Canada for a six pack of Labatt's Blue ???

You think we can get that much for it?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Team Meteor. Now with Cheesecake at January 26, 2012 07:21 AM (8y9MW)

87 Bill Maher definately doesn't rise to the level of scrunt.

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2012 07:21 AM (w+PM8)

88 74 For weeks the MFM has dutifully been printing stories about the improving economy. Get ready for the full journalistic fellatio, 2012 version.
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I didn't take Romney's comments about Gingrich's media sparring as a particularly harsh criticism of Newt, but I do think it's bad strategy for any of our GOP candidates to minimize in any way the righteous indignation we should feel about the media.  I think it would be better for people to stay mistrustful and mad at them whoever our nominee is. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 26, 2012 07:22 AM (5H6zj)

89 yay! we have (hacked in) formatting back!

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Team Meteor. Now with Cheesecake at January 26, 2012 07:22 AM (8y9MW)

90 85 real joe are you pronouncing that "eye" talic?

Posted by: phoenixgirl....a voter without a candidate at January 26, 2012 07:22 AM (Ho2rs)

91 Newt's a heartbreaker.
When I start to get on board,
he pulls the rug out.

Posted by: Gran at January 26, 2012 07:22 AM (PxzSs)

92 bold italics test

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2012 07:23 AM (UOM48)

93 89 Can we trade Vermont to Canada for a six pack of Labatt's Blue ???

>>>You think we can get that much for it?

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They won't take it.  They'd like to dump Quebec. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 26, 2012 07:23 AM (5H6zj)

94 21 Some scrunt on CNN claims Reagan would be a Democrat today.

Dumb scrunt doesn't realize Reagan was a Democrat until he came to his senses.

Posted by: real joe at January 26, 2012 07:23 AM (979FD)

95 Occupy DC Activist Accuses Van Jones, MoveOn Of Smear Campaign

Now this is really getting weird.

Posted by: Bob Novak at January 26, 2012 07:23 AM (e8kgV)

96 I figure Vermont is worth no more than a reconditioned condom and a shot of Canadian Hunter.

Posted by: maddogg at January 26, 2012 07:23 AM (OlN4e)

97 fail

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2012 07:23 AM (UOM48)

98 81 Stay klassy, Bill Maher:

My gosh, but he's edgy and daring.  He must be really cool and smart.

Posted by: Occupep at January 26, 2012 07:23 AM (YXmuI)

99

82 But I clearly suck on the line breaks.....

.

Try putting in an extra period, then hit Enter again.

Posted by: wheatie at January 26, 2012 07:23 AM (ALwK/)

100 "are you pronouncing that "eye" talic?"

Yes. Yes I am.

Posted by: real joe at January 26, 2012 07:23 AM (979FD)

101 I was around and paying attention when Reagan gave his speeches. I don't remember the media being so enthusiastic about him then. Apparently they really like dead people as speakers and voters. Posted by: pep at January 26, 2012 11:20 AM (YXmuI) The MSM and the Dems only like dead Republicans, never breathing ones

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 26, 2012 07:23 AM (i6RpT)

102 Mitt is no better.
Plastic hair and forced grinning
do not inspire.

Posted by: Gran at January 26, 2012 07:24 AM (PxzSs)

103 You think we can get that much for it?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Team Meteor. Now with Cheesecake at January 26, 2012 11:21 AM (8y9MW)


Maybe they would give us a stick of back bacon.  "At best."

Posted by: Will Folks at January 26, 2012 07:24 AM (RD7QR)

104 Ynot if Santorum comes in 4th he'll quit that night.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 26, 2012 07:24 AM (kaOJx)

105

I hope Jan Brewer called him a SCOAMT

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2012 07:24 AM (w+PM8)

106 BREAKING: NC Governor Beverly Perdue is not running for re-election. http://bit.ly/yHOVNH Wonder if Obama is planning to tap her for VP...

Posted by: blindside at January 26, 2012 07:24 AM (x7g7t)

107 Now this is really getting weird.

We aren't the only ones who practice internecine warfare.  We're just better at it.

Posted by: Occupep at January 26, 2012 07:24 AM (YXmuI)

108 Reagan would BE a Democrat today?

For God's sake, Reagan WAS a Democrat, then switched parties, you stupid scrunt.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at January 26, 2012 07:25 AM (RI0fC)

109

7 So, the italics and bold etc. are working for posts, but not for comments? C'mon Ace, Pixy, whomever...it's either that or I start CONSTANTLY WRITING IN ALL CAPS TO SHOW EMPHASIS again.

Posted by: Jeff B. at January 26, 2012 11:00 AM (23Ios)

 

Could it be that this is a cunning plan by Ace to restrict free expression in the comments section? Would Perry have won the primaries if not for the impact of italics and bolds?

And who is this “Pixy” person.  Has anyone ever seen her?

Where is the money coming from to finance this “new website”?  What are these (Jew) bankers asking for in return?

It seems Mr. OÂ’Spades has some unanswered questions.

Posted by: jwest at January 26, 2012 07:25 AM (FdndL)

110 The MSM and the Dems only like dead Republicans, never breathing ones

That's not true.

They like "maverick" and "moderate" Republicans, as long as they're not running against a democrat and are trashing on the Conservative base.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Team Meteor. Now with Cheesecake at January 26, 2012 07:25 AM (8y9MW)

111 75 The Supremes had enought sense not to go this time. Too bad they couldn't send foam middle fingers to sit in their seats.       Which ones did show up?

Posted by: Truman North at January 26, 2012 07:25 AM (I2LwF)

112 Love that pic of Jan Brewer with her finger up in SCOAMF's grill.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2012 07:25 AM (UOM48)

113 Can we trade Vermont to Canada for a six pack of Labatt's Blue ??? ****** No, we want Celine Dion's royalties-and that's just for openers... And The Ghost of Chris Chelios.

Posted by: Canada at January 26, 2012 07:25 AM (r2PLg)

114 Release the chakra!

Posted by: Barrack "Kundalini" O'Bama at January 26, 2012 07:25 AM (0It32)

115 107 Ynot if Santorum comes in 4th he'll quit that night.
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What do you think will happen to his supporters?  I really don't have a good read on them. 

My hunch is that they will go to Romney because they seem somewhat risk-averse and Romney is supposed to be the safer candidate. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 26, 2012 07:25 AM (5H6zj)

116 And Rick Santorum?
Confidence is not built up
losing to Casey.

Posted by: Gran at January 26, 2012 07:26 AM (PxzSs)

117 I've never actually seen Maher except on conservative blog sites. He's really weird looking. That nose is really, um, obscene.

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2012 07:26 AM (w+PM8)

118 Welcome back Jane D'oh. You don't know me, but I missed your comments.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 26, 2012 07:26 AM (jucos)

119 They won't take it. They'd like to dump Quebec.

Posted by: Y-not at January 26, 2012 11:23 AM (5H6zj)


Serial governor schtupper sock off. Really, that's Hobson's choice. Hmm, get rid of the lefties but get a bunch of whiny frogs. Hmmmm...

Posted by: joncelli, too stressed by half at January 26, 2012 07:26 AM (RD7QR)

120 All Three Networks Agree: Obama Sounded 'Reaganesque' in State of the Union. Headline at link

http://www.mrc.org/biasalert/2011/20110126125238.aspx

Posted by: Phil Jones at January 26, 2012 07:26 AM (tf9Ne)

121

Pixy's working on something more important-- getting the new site ready to go.

Posted by: ace at January 26, 2012 11:04 AM (nj1bB)

Woot! We can haz sarcasm font?

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 26, 2012 07:26 AM (4q5tP)

122 Quebec? No way-hydro-power baby....now New Brunswick....

Posted by: Canada at January 26, 2012 07:26 AM (r2PLg)

123 #121  Thanks.  Good to be back.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2012 07:27 AM (UOM48)

124 i hope the new site has a catpiss filter

Posted by: phoenixgirl....a voter without a candidate at January 26, 2012 07:27 AM (Ho2rs)

125 Santorum's supporters will go to the candidate who appears to be more pro-life. So, either Newt (ugh) or nobody if Newt wins the nomination and doesn't pick an overtly pro-life running mate. I wish there was a way to get them to pick running mates now--it would further define them.

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2012 07:28 AM (w+PM8)

126 124 Pixy's working on something more important-- getting the new site ready to go. Posted by: ace at January 26, 2012 11:04 AM (nj1bB). 

>>Woot! We can haz sarcasm font?

---

So will the new site featured a Revised New Comments Thingy or a New New Comments Thingy? 

Posted by: Y-not at January 26, 2012 07:28 AM (5H6zj)

127

127 i hope the new site has a catpiss filter

 

Fer shur, I hate unfiltered cat piss

Posted by: maddogg at January 26, 2012 07:28 AM (OlN4e)

128

Assuredness and Moxie?

 

Hi Jane.

Posted by: garrett at January 26, 2012 07:28 AM (nKPY4)

129 Santorum comes in 4th he'll quit that night.

Santorum and Paul (who should come in 3rd & 4th -preferably in that order) should both drop out afterwords.  Well, Paul should, certainly- Santorum at least has some delegates.

But, really, if either Newt or Mitt win FL (which is Winner-take-all, remember), the race is, essentially, over.  They'll have a commanding lead and "momentum."  The best anyone unhappy with the winner of FL will be able to hope for is a brokered convention.

And if that's the "best" you're hoping for (as I already kind of am), you're in deep kimchee.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Team Meteor. Now with Cheesecake at January 26, 2012 07:28 AM (8y9MW)

130 Unfortunately,  instead of aiming at Obama, the debate will be entirely centered around Newt's supposed dissing of Reagan back in the 1980's (based on selected scraps from a foreign policy statement of Newt's back then) in spite of the fact that Nancy Reagan, of all people, in 1995, called Newt Reagan's heir, at a tribute dinner at which Newt was the keynote speaker.

Or, else it will center around the fact that Gingrich's daughters do not qualify as witnesses so far as anything to do with stepmommy dearest (Marianne) goes.

Posted by: Minnie Rodent at January 26, 2012 07:29 AM (S3rrR)

131
Article author Amie Parnes is apparently a 14 year old girl.  From her bio:

"Amie lives in WashingtonÂ’s Dupont Circle neighborhood. She adores her parents, her sister, Sherry, her dog, Jake, and her very sweet friends (you know who you are!) and she despises those who have crossed her (you know who you are, too!)."






Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 26, 2012 07:29 AM (3wBRE)

132
The thing these guys have over Pravda is that everyone knew that it was the govt mouthpiece, here at least half the people think these left wing media outlets are perfectly objective.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 26, 2012 07:29 AM (XrrP7)

133

Pixy's working on something more important-- getting the new site ready to go. Posted by: ace at January 26, 2012 11:04 AM (nj1bB)

 

We can haz New Comments Thingy?

Posted by: garrett at January 26, 2012 07:29 AM (nKPY4)

134 Reaganesque?  You mean like the guy they called Raygun? 

Posted by: Decaf at January 26, 2012 07:29 AM (QBuqo)

135 127Yeah, remember that catfilter spam? Was there a catpissfilter? I'd front the cash for it, although I think we could raise it and more very very easily.

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2012 07:30 AM (w+PM8)

136 @128
I think from a functional standpoint Romney and Gingrich are equivalent in terms of what their respective presidencies would do re abortion.  Gingrich may be more pro life in his heart, but I don't think there'd be much difference between them in terms of federal funding or advancing pro life initiatives. 

Disclaimer: I'm no exceptions against abortion. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 26, 2012 07:30 AM (5H6zj)

137 Preview....we need a preview option!

Posted by: Tami at January 26, 2012 07:30 AM (X6akg)

138 " NC Governor Beverly Perdue is not running for re-election.

Wonder if Obama is planning to tap her for VP...

Posted by: blindside at January 26, 2012 11:24 AM (x7g7t)"

Glad you added "for VP".

She hasn't been very popular, has she?  I don't think she's doing this to go up but to get out.  She's the one frustrated at those nasty elections, wasn't she?

Posted by: AmishDude at January 26, 2012 07:31 AM (T0NGe)

139 I think Newt is right . He is being swiftboated. And by my definition that means people who know him best feel compelled to come forward and tell the real truth. Hell if you hate Romney don't vote for him and vote for Santorum.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 26, 2012 07:31 AM (fuUYY)

140 I love the way Ace casually mentions "new site" then........nothing.

Posted by: maddogg at January 26, 2012 07:31 AM (OlN4e)

141 Nah, Purdue did her time and now she moves on to lobbying and money making.

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2012 07:31 AM (w+PM8)

142 Don't get me started
on Ron Paul - off his effing
rocker with Iran.

Posted by: Gran at January 26, 2012 07:31 AM (PxzSs)

143 I don't remember Newt "dissing Reagan" back in the 80's. .....I remember watching Newt, late at night, on that new channel called Cspan. ....He was backing up Reagan....elaborating on what Reagan was trying to accomplish.

Posted by: wheatie at January 26, 2012 07:32 AM (ALwK/)

144 A bit OT, but what the heck did Jane D'oh ever do to get banished from AoS? Not quite sure what that's all about...

Posted by: RM at January 26, 2012 07:32 AM (TRsME)

145

Wonder if Obama is planning to tap her for VP...

 

I don't swing that way.

Now, if she has a Pok-ee-stahni foreign exchange student living with her...we can talk.

Posted by: Barack Obama at January 26, 2012 07:32 AM (nKPY4)

146 Speaking of Stenography. (I haven't read all the posts and comments, so I might be a little late.)

It turns out Buffett's secretary earns $60,000 per year.

If you go to the tax tables and take the standard deduction, her taxes run about 12%, without any other deductions.

Posted by: franksalterego at January 26, 2012 07:32 AM (9XykO)

147 Y-not you do know that Gingrich was advocating for Bush to approve embryonic stem cell research right?

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 26, 2012 07:33 AM (fuUYY)

148
It will be the New New Comment Thingy.


OT:  Ace or cob-loggers:  I was going to buy the Atlas Shrugged DVD just to support it (although I heard it wasn't great, but I want it finished) and figured I would go thru this site, so if somebody wants to put it in your store in the next week or so that would be good.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 26, 2012 07:33 AM (XrrP7)

149 @149
That's a crappy salary for an executive secretary. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 26, 2012 07:33 AM (5H6zj)

150 Maybe if I say this loud enough people will hear it this time?

FLORIDA IS NOT WINNER TAKE ALL THIS CYCLE

The rules require proportional allocation of delegates as follows – Example:

Candidate “A” gets 30% of the vote would get 14 delegatesCandidate “B” gets 20% of the vote would get 10 delegatesCandidate “C” gets 15% of the vote would get 7 delegatesCandidate “D” gets 10% of the vote would get 5 delegates
And so on until the 48 delegates are gone.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at January 26, 2012 07:34 AM (RI0fC)

151

" And by my definition that means people who know him best feel compelled to come forward and tell the real truth. "

 

You mean like Norm Coleman did with Mittens?

Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 26, 2012 07:34 AM (kaOJx)

152 149 franksalterego excerpt from the daily mail: According to Forbes, Ms Bosanek takes home an annual income between $200,000 and $500,000 - based on the most recent tax tables from the Internal Revenue Service (IRS).

Posted by: phoenixgirl....a voter without a candidate at January 26, 2012 07:35 AM (Ho2rs)

153 The Buffett's secretary thing (really? $60K? pretty good for a secretary!) as I've said before is a lie because Buffett includes payroll taxes (FICA).  Since FICA taxes are cut off after a certain income level (it isn't welfare), Buffett doesn't pay FICA on a large portion of his income.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 26, 2012 07:35 AM (T0NGe)

154

Just scanning the comments...I think the take-away is that Pixy is confidently working on the optimistic new site while Ace is looking Reaganesque and sanquine.

 

And that the blog problems were caused by Italic Terrorists who banned Jane D'oh.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 26, 2012 07:35 AM (XdlcF)

155 In the end, I'll probably go for Romney. Noot is really smart, except when he's really stupid.

Posted by: maddogg at January 26, 2012 07:35 AM (OlN4e)

156 Hoo boy.  A friend just sent me this link to watch live as the Georgia Supreme Court holds hearing on SCOAMF's eligibility:

http://www.art2superpac.com/livevideo.html.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2012 07:35 AM (UOM48)

157 146 I don't remember Newt "dissing Reagan" back in the 80's. .....I remember watching Newt, late at night, on that new channel called Cspan.

---

Yeah.  I assume the attacks on Newt's role in the Reagan Revolution are aimed at swaying the younger people or people who didn't pay attention. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 26, 2012 07:35 AM (5H6zj)

158 It turns out Buffett's secretary earns $60,000 per year.

If you go to the tax tables and take the standard deduction, her taxes run about 12%, without any other deductions.

Posted by: franksalterego at January 26, 2012 11:32 AM (9XykO)



Or so Buffett says.  I read that this morning.  Either he's a fatassed liar....or he's a fatass cheapskate.  She's been with him for 37 years and only makes 60k?!  Schyeah....right.

Posted by: Tami at January 26, 2012 07:36 AM (X6akg)

159 Speaking of Stenography. (I haven't read all the posts and comments, so I might be a little late.) It turns out Buffett's secretary earns $60,000 per year. If you go to the tax tables and take the standard deduction, her taxes run about 12%, without any other deductions. Posted by: franksalterego at January 26, 2012 11:32 AM (9XykO) ----------------------------------------------------- It's all bullshit anyway. She is the hammer that JEF uses against us with his class warfare nonsense. I read somewhere that she just bought a second home in AZ. Nice.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 26, 2012 07:36 AM (jucos)

160 #109-- Heheh, you said "obama" and "tap her," Heheh. Heheh...

Posted by: beavis at January 26, 2012 07:36 AM (p8Hnn)

161 Dick Nixon that doesn't make any sense.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 26, 2012 07:36 AM (fuUYY)

162 FLORIDA IS NOT WINNER TAKE ALL THIS CYCLE ***** Also the RNC took away half of their delegates because they moved up their primary.-(at least I read that some where...)

Posted by: tasker at January 26, 2012 07:36 AM (r2PLg)

163 A new site?  O hell, I have enough trouble trying to figure out  this one.

Posted by: Minnie Rodent at January 26, 2012 07:37 AM (S3rrR)

164

Posted by: AmishDude at January 26, 2012 11:35 AM (T0NGe)

*******

I didn't "lie", I told an "Obama".

Posted by: Warren Edward Buffett at January 26, 2012 07:37 AM (ggRof)

165 Obama's a nice guy, just in over his head.

Posted by: Moot Romknee at January 26, 2012 07:37 AM (Zw/H7)

166 will the new site require a password?

Posted by: phoenixgirl....a voter without a candidate at January 26, 2012 07:38 AM (Ho2rs)

167
"Reagan would be a Democrat today"

http://tinyurl.com/6mvel2k

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at January 26, 2012 07:38 AM (7+pP9)

168 147 A bit OT, but what the heck did Jane D'oh ever do to get banished from AoS? Not quite sure what that's all about...

-------------

I was part of the accidental bannings on the Perry thread that a troll screwed up.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2012 07:38 AM (UOM48)

169

>>figured I would go thru this site, so if somebody wants to put it in your store in the next week or so that would be good.

 

Just search for it from the search box on the front page and the pennies should drop right into Ace's lap. Or hit him on the head, as the case may be.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 26, 2012 07:38 AM (XdlcF)

170

As a young Count watching the three channels (four if you had a weird loop antenna to catch UltraMan),  I used to marvel at the way the alphabet broadcasters could instantly analyze the President's speech, connect its meanings to other things going on in the world, and appear so knowledgeable and wise and worldly.

 

It never occurred to me that they  (including staff)  might have had an advance copy to mull over for  several hours or so.  That's like cheating, or magic tricks.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 26, 2012 07:38 AM (4q5tP)

171

polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 26, 2012 11:36 AM

 

Too stupid to read this morning dufus? Or are you too busy strawmanning the threads, as you were doing yesterday.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 26, 2012 07:38 AM (kaOJx)

172 Preview....we need a preview option! Posted by: Tami at January 26, 2012 11:30 AM (X6akg) ***** Seconded. The English-it hates me.

Posted by: tasker at January 26, 2012 07:38 AM (r2PLg)

173 will the new site require references?

Posted by: phoenixgirl....a voter without a candidate at January 26, 2012 07:38 AM (Ho2rs)

174 I swear to stupid that the MFM are God

Posted by: Truman North at January 26, 2012 07:39 AM (I2LwF)

175 will the new site require a birth certificate?

Posted by: phoenixgirl....a voter without a candidate at January 26, 2012 07:39 AM (Ho2rs)

176 I'd recommend to The Hill that they nibble the glans a bit more next time.

Posted by: SurferDoc at January 26, 2012 07:39 AM (6H6FZ)

177 Barack Hussein Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

I denounce myself.

Posted by: Alte Schule at January 26, 2012 07:40 AM (Bq6l8)

178 179 will the new site require a birth certificate?

No, but it will require a copy of your college transcripts.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2012 07:40 AM (UOM48)

179

@153...Dave in Fla,

Yes. Thanks for the reminder. .....Which is one of the reasons why this election is different that others in the past.

.

We've never had this many early primaries before.....never had candidates kicked off of the ballots like in VA. .....There are a lot of differences this time around.

Posted by: wheatie at January 26, 2012 07:40 AM (ALwK/)

180 Oh my.

They sure do loves them some Reagan, huh?

Posted by: The kids from South Park at January 26, 2012 07:40 AM (piMMO)

181 Too stupid to read this morning dufus? Or are you too busy strawmanning the threads, as you were doing yesterday. Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 26, 2012 11:38 AM (kaOJx) ****** Has Romney addressed that personally or is he still sending out -the spokespeople? This morning on Imus they had tape of Mitt saying he thinks it's un-presidential to pander..... haaaahaaaaahaaaa..... Geez-I keep wanting to back Romney-but...

Posted by: tasker at January 26, 2012 07:41 AM (r2PLg)

182 They cannot have an original thought, not a single one. Without a script they are incapable of independent thought. I loathe them.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at January 26, 2012 07:41 AM (xb+lF)

183 I guarantee you that Buffet's secretary is a multi-millionare.  She has a nice piece of Berkshire Hathaway stock set aside, which has not been part of this conversation at all.

I recall reading about the admins who started with Home Depot at the beginning.  All of them retired very very rich because of the stock they were given at the beginning.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at January 26, 2012 07:41 AM (RI0fC)

184 NRL PAC seems to rate the candidate about the same. 
http://tinyurl.com/6mjgo6n

Emily's List ranks Gingrich as the WORST. 
http://tinyurl.com/6repkea

Nevertheless, I think that in terms of what would happen with abortion in this country, Gingrich and Romney would be roughly the same. I doubt either would be really aggressive about anything other than federal funding issues. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 26, 2012 07:41 AM (5H6zj)

185 Just remember. We can not, nor should we, have nice things. We're not worthy.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 26, 2012 07:42 AM (jucos)

186

What you actualy want us to WATCH this Crap????

.

Sorry, you don't PAY us enough...

Posted by: Reporter NYT at January 26, 2012 07:42 AM (lZBBB)

187

>>Will it have the you code, or whatever the hell that is?

 

That was one of the funniest things evah here. Except for the people who got really really upset at the terrible things that were being said about them.

 

Okay, that was funny, too.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 26, 2012 07:42 AM (XdlcF)

188 "Also the RNC took away half of their delegates..."

Correct, we normally would be taking 96 delegates to the convention.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at January 26, 2012 07:42 AM (RI0fC)

189

will the new site require a password?

 

 

Spatchcock.

Posted by: garrett at January 26, 2012 07:43 AM (nKPY4)

190
No way will I vote for Romney.  If the repubs go that route, I will know for sure what I have now long suspected, that these people we call RINOs aren't, they are actually what the Republican Party has become.  Just slightly less liberal than the dems.

No matter the outcome of a Romney v OdipO election, the time will be right to start building a conservative party.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 26, 2012 07:43 AM (XrrP7)

191

tasker, Romney still has Norm Coleman on the payroll. 

 

Ol' Norm apparently let the cat out of the bag with his "no repealing Obamacare it it's entirety" comment. And Coleman, per what I've read, is MIttens choice for HHS Secretary.

 

Too funny.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 26, 2012 07:43 AM (kaOJx)

192 "Also the RNC took away half of their delegates..." Correct, we normally would be taking 96 delegates to the convention. Posted by: Dave in Fla at January 26, 2012 11:42 AM (RI0fC) ******* Thanks Dave. Florida is still really important- it's the Big Mo factor.

Posted by: tasker at January 26, 2012 07:43 AM (r2PLg)

193 194 will the new site require a password?

SCOAMF

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2012 07:44 AM (UOM48)

194 I got an idea! Maybe we should have the ability to give "karma" for individual comments, both positive and negative. Then a score could be kept for everybody!

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 26, 2012 07:44 AM (jucos)

195 I don't want to say anything mean about that senile fuck Warren Cocksucker Buffett, but if any of you morons have him in a Dead Pool, I hope you win.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 26, 2012 07:45 AM (yowgW)

196  Oh my.

They sure do loves them some Reagan, huh?

Posted by: The kids from South Park at January 26, 2012 11:40 AM (piMMO)

 

Of course, he's dead.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 26, 2012 07:45 AM (4q5tP)

197 190 truck monkey this time it will be different.....until we break it......

Posted by: phoenixgirl....a voter without a candidate at January 26, 2012 07:45 AM (Ho2rs)

198 Ok, I'm reading all the Newt stuff on drudge. ...fuck. ace, everyone, I'm sorry. we're thoroughly boned.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at January 26, 2012 07:45 AM (Y5I9o)

199 I suspect there will be an Ace post today outlining all the features of the new site. That being the only reason he lit it "slip" that there was a new site in the works.

Posted by: maddogg at January 26, 2012 07:45 AM (OlN4e)

200 They're liberal, and they're lazy.
------------------------

and 99% of them are stupid.

Posted by: Vic at January 26, 2012 07:45 AM (YdQQY)

201

But Zeese doesn't believe that the accusations are just coming from other occupiers. He told BuzzFeed that "a lot of these attacks on us came after we started to call out Democratic operatives that tried to take control of the [Occupy] movement."

To back this up, Zeese sent us a number of links accusing Van Jones -- a green jobs activists pushed out of the Obama Administration amid a controversy over his past radical statements -- his and MoveOn.org of trying to co-opt Occupy, e.g. Van Jones can't occupy us and Occupy Movement tells MoveOn: Back Off!

"We are up against very powerful foes who know how to destroy movements," Zeese said. "Divide people from those who have shown leadership is a key tactic."

Posted by: Bob Novak at January 26, 2012 07:45 AM (e8kgV)

202 I was part of the accidental bannings on the Perry thread that a troll screwed up.

My home IP got whacked a couple of weeks back, too.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 26, 2012 07:46 AM (B+qrE)

203 "Geez-I keep wanting to back Romney-but..."

I hear you, I'm having the identical problem with Newt.  I decide I'm voting for him, them some new thing he says or does pisses me off and I reconsider.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at January 26, 2012 07:46 AM (RI0fC)

204 And Coleman, per what I've read, is MIttens choice for HHS Secretary. Too funny. ****** Wow....right because Coleman isn't just a Romney backer-he's an advisor-I think I saw you were saying that yesterday. Romesh Ponnurru was dinged in comments at NRO for not stating that.

Posted by: tasker at January 26, 2012 07:46 AM (r2PLg)

205 Romney still has Norm Coleman on the payroll

Do you know what his title and salary are?  Where did you read this?

Posted by: pep at January 26, 2012 07:46 AM (YXmuI)

206 A cool feature on the new site would be a troll zapper. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2012 07:46 AM (UOM48)

207 211 A cool feature on the new site would be a troll zapper.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2012 11:46 AM (UOM4



With sound.

Posted by: Tami at January 26, 2012 07:47 AM (X6akg)

208 @146 -

My point exactly.  However, if you look at Drudge, he's giving big play to an article in National Review Online by Elliott Abrams in which Abrams claims Gingrich said all kinds of things in opposition to Reagan.  Abrams, you may recall, was censured by the U.S. District Court of Appeals in D.C. in 1995 for providing false information -- just the kind of hit man to give NRO credibility, or credulity, to be nice.  This goes counter to the CSPAN speeches you cite above, plus the testimony of a lot of other witnesses.  There was a searing article on another blog (Legal Insurrection) on the dishonest nature of today's shit-flinging by Drudge and Fox .

Posted by: Minnie Rodent at January 26, 2012 07:48 AM (S3rrR)

209 Pixy's working on something more important-- getting the new site ready to go.

Posted by: ace at January 26, 2012 11:04 AM (nj1bB)


Great.

Posted by: Vic at January 26, 2012 07:48 AM (YdQQY)

210 I'd like preview and to not have to go through gymnastics when quoting and linking. 

I'm not a fan of the upding thingy.  I don't understand the point of it. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 26, 2012 07:48 AM (5H6zj)

211 wow, what a gutsy call

Posted by: joeindc44 - tebow's new lifting coach at January 26, 2012 07:48 AM (QxSug)

212 Is the new site going to cause our subscription fees to go up?

Posted by: garrett at January 26, 2012 07:48 AM (nKPY4)

213 Dave in Fla Ya I'm having that problem too. The only bright side I can think of is- remember when the Dems said that the RNC controlled everything through- DIEBOLD. Ya...riiiiiiiiight.....because this primary at least proves that wrong-so there's that.

Posted by: tasker at January 26, 2012 07:48 AM (r2PLg)

214

pep at January 26, 2012 11:46 AM

 

Tepid Air. It's still on the front page about halfway down. He is listed as an advisor in the campaign. Romney himself has not publicly stated anything on Norm's comments, nor have I read anything about him being removed from the campaign staff.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 26, 2012 07:48 AM (kaOJx)

215

186.....Geez-I keep wanting to back Romney-but...

.

I know, tasker. .....The way that the media, including Fox, is so in the tank for Romney, has been pissing me off. .....It's hard to get past that.

.

My husband is convinced that even Fox wants the SCoaMT to win, because they've made so much money off of providing a voice against him.

Posted by: wheatie at January 26, 2012 07:49 AM (ALwK/)

216 217 Is the new site going to cause our subscription fees to go up?

Posted by: garrett at January 26, 2012 11:48 AM (nKPY4)


Yes, and you'll have to wear underwear.

Posted by: joncelli, too stressed by half at January 26, 2012 07:49 AM (RD7QR)

217 I'm not a fan of the upding thingy. I don't understand the point of it. Posted by: Y-not at January 26, 2012 11:48 AM (5H6zj) --------------------------------------------------------- I was being sarcastic. I am sorry if that did not shine through.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 26, 2012 07:49 AM (jucos)

218

171 MSDNC hackery

If Reagan were alive he would be horrified by both parties and the size of the government. Again, the left want to steal the popularity, not the substance. Hacks that they are....

Posted by: whatever at January 26, 2012 07:49 AM (O7ksG)

219 But, really, if either Newt or Mitt win FL (which is Winner-take-all, remember), the race is, essentially, over.
-------------------------

Not unless they violate the rules set up at the Party meeting last year which said ALL primaries before April 1 would be proportional.

Posted by: Vic at January 26, 2012 07:49 AM (YdQQY)

220 Boy, the libtards sure loves them some SEALs capping brown people.

And they act like Barry and Biden personally took them out.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2012 07:49 AM (UOM48)

221 If their internal polling was positive -- it wouldn't be internal, it would be on the front page. Another missing data point, their fundraising status, esp. with respect to their announced goals.

Posted by: Jean at January 26, 2012 07:50 AM (WkuV6)

222 212 211
A cool feature on the new site would be a troll zapper.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2012 11:46 AM (UOM4


With sound.

Posted by: Tami at January 26, 2012 11:47 AM (X6akg)

 

A nice sizzling Bbzzzzzzzztt!

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 26, 2012 07:50 AM (4q5tP)

223 I'm not a fan of the upding thingy. I don't understand the point of it.

Posted by: Y-not at January 26, 2012 11:48 AM (5H6zj)

 

It is a convenient feature to allow you to know if you are sucking up to all the cool posters and are "right in your political views".

IOW, worthless.

Posted by: maddogg at January 26, 2012 07:50 AM (OlN4e)

224
We like it when the 'ettes have to go thru gymnastics to post a comment.  It adds a little um....class to the place.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 26, 2012 07:51 AM (XrrP7)

225 The way that the media, including Fox, is so in the tank for Romney, has been pissing me off. .....It's hard to get past that. ****** Seriously wheatie-I turned off FOX-it was like watching the Romney campaign on a loop or something.

Posted by: tasker at January 26, 2012 07:51 AM (r2PLg)

226

Romney has Norm Coleman and Mel Martinez on his payroll. Add Mitt and two more failures, and you have the Washington Generals.

Posted by: Truman North at January 26, 2012 07:52 AM (I2LwF)

227 Yes, and you'll have to wear underwear.

Posted by: joncelli, too stressed by half at January 26, 2012 11:49 AM (RD7QR)


Oh C'mon! 

Posted by: Tami at January 26, 2012 07:52 AM (X6akg)

228 "Thanks Dave. Florida is still really important-

it's the Big Mo factor."

Yes, no one will score a knockout, and both Newt and Mitt will leave with 15 to 20 delegates.  It is all about momentum.  You are getting a read on what the 4th largest state in the country, that is a swing state in the general, thinks of these candidates.

Newt need momentum to get past the upcoming caucuses in NV and MI, where Mitt will take most of the delegates.  Once we hit Super Tuesday, then we have winner take all states.  That could finish the process if one or the other wins the majority of those states.

This is how McCain beat Mitt last time.  He didn't get many delegates from FL, but it gave him the momentum to beat Mitt on Super Tuesday where it counted.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at January 26, 2012 07:52 AM (RI0fC)

229 will the new site require a birth certificate?

I was told that would be a one-off.

Posted by: Barky S. H. O'pantload, 12 handicap at January 26, 2012 07:53 AM (GBXon)

230 Also, for the near-lunch crowd: new post at my place.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Team Meteor. Now with Cheesecake at January 26, 2012 07:53 AM (8y9MW)

231 Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 26, 2012 11:33 AM (XrrP7)

Atlas Shrugged Pt 1 was actually pretty good. They will not be releasing Pt 2 until next year.

Posted by: Vic at January 26, 2012 07:53 AM (YdQQY)

232 Truman, I'm sure polynikes or one of the other MIttbots will chime in about Perry being defeated or something else to threadjack the discussion. Again.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 26, 2012 07:53 AM (kaOJx)

233 Obama needs to step up his game.  When Castro was in his prime, listening to his speeches required one to bring a picnic basket and a cot.  A couple of hours of droning ain't even in the same league with el Jefe.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 26, 2012 07:54 AM (N09cC)

234 How 'bout a down ding thing where if she, er, a troll, gets enough downdings, it gets erased like some MIT magic West Point invention?

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2012 07:54 AM (w+PM8)

235

>>We like it when the 'ettes have to go thru gymnastics to post a comment. It adds a little um....class to the place.
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Wouldn't be the same with an underwear requirement, now would it??

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 26, 2012 07:54 AM (XdlcF)

236 Repeaters, not Reporters.

Posted by: Greg Toombs at January 26, 2012 07:54 AM (8V3OS)

237

224 .....Not unless they violate the rules set up at the Party meeting last year which said ALL primaries before April 1 would be proportional.

.

Which is why Iowa calls theirs a 'Caucus', right? .....So that they can get around that? 

Posted by: wheatie at January 26, 2012 07:54 AM (ALwK/)

238 sanguine can also mean resigned.

Posted by: toby928© at January 26, 2012 07:54 AM (GTbGH)

239 @219
 Well, it calls him a "special adviser for policy", but he is still then associated with the campaign, paid or not.  As I said yesterday, he needs to be publicly jettisoned.  

Posted by: pep at January 26, 2012 07:55 AM (YXmuI)

240 You are getting a read on what the 4th largest state in the country, that is a swing state in the general, thinks of these candidates. Newt need momentum to get past the upcoming caucuses in NV and MI, where Mitt will take most of the delegates. ****** Good point about getting a read on Fla. Shoot one of the commenters here yesterday said that Mitt was actually losing ground in Nevada... I was kind of too shocked to chase that down.

Posted by: tasker at January 26, 2012 07:55 AM (r2PLg)

241

you'll have to wear underwear.

 

Will there be T-Shirts?

Posted by: garrett at January 26, 2012 07:55 AM (nKPY4)

242
yeah, no updings for the new site, but a few up twinkles would be nice.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 26, 2012 07:55 AM (XrrP7)

243 I envision an initiation ceremony of sorts for gaining  commenting  access to the new site.  Something in the nature of the Navy's Line Crossing tradition to advance from Pollywog to Shellback.  Only less tame.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 26, 2012 07:55 AM (4q5tP)

244 Posted by: Minnie Rodent at January 26, 2012 11:48 AM (S3rrR)

Things have gotten very negative.  I am going to try to avoid the worst of it as much as I can and look at the neutral/positive reports on the candidates. 

Basically, if you want to read something positive about the each of the candidates you have to go to particular sites. 

For positive Gingrich stuff it's basically Legal Insurrection, Riehl World view, and DrewM's blog.  The Weekly Standard seems to occasionally have positive Newt stuff as well.  Overall they seem more balanced than NRO is right now.

For positive Romney stuff it's basically NRO, Hot Air, and I'm sure a lot of the other big blogs (I don't go to many of those). 

There is plenty of negative stuff, too.  LI is anti Romney.  Red State is anti Romney but EE seems to be pushing the "we need a new candidate!" idea (dumb).  Hot Air is anti Gingrich. 

This site is pretty much anti everyone, but especially Gingrich (and Paul). 

I'm trying to convince myself that there is something good or acceptable about each of them, mostly because I am trying to make sure I can get my husband to vote in the general.  But it is still necessary to read the counter attacks when these charges get leveled from one camp to the other. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 26, 2012 07:55 AM (5H6zj)

245 The new site has been up for years, is their some buzz?

Posted by: Jean at January 26, 2012 07:56 AM (WkuV6)

246 Vic pointed out that there are no winner take all before April 1, so if Super Tuesday is still in March, those will also be proportional.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at January 26, 2012 07:57 AM (RI0fC)

247 Sanguine can also mean ruddy as in "red faced" which makes the most sense in this context.

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2012 07:57 AM (w+PM8)

248

The new site has been up for years

 

Where will the secret Nutmegger cabal meet if we take over the 'New' site?

Posted by: garrett at January 26, 2012 07:57 AM (nKPY4)

249 P.S. In the interests of full disclosure, I "Grinched" yesterday at the Early Voting.  Not because I am especially fond of Newt, but I have become a whole hell of a lot less fond of the others.  And I have developed some real contempt for Romney's  wolf pack in the conservative media.  This contempt has grown enormously in the last 6 hours.

 Santorum seems like a decent fellow, but then this is probably why he got creamed in his Senate bid, and why he hasn't stood a snowball in hell's chance of getting the nomination -- and besides he is a politician, like the others.

Posted by: Minnie Rodent at January 26, 2012 07:57 AM (S3rrR)

250 I'm trying to convince myself that there is something good or acceptable about each of them, mostly because I am trying to make sure I can get my husband to vote in the general. But it is still necessary to read the counter attacks when these charges get leveled from one camp to the other.

Not to shill (well, okay, shilling a little) but have you hit my blog today?  It gives a rough-draft of what I wish Mitt would have said from the beginning.  It might help your husband if Mitt's the nominee.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Team Meteor. Now with Cheesecake at January 26, 2012 07:57 AM (8y9MW)

251 the libtards sure loves them some SEALs capping brown people.

I was wondering how long it would take Ogabe to realize that beating down pirates was a risk free way to pump his defense cred.  Nobody who matters gives a shit if you waste pirates.

It took him three years to figure it out.  I thought he was going to play this card a couple of years ago.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 26, 2012 07:58 AM (N09cC)

252 you just can't wait for the new site

Posted by: toby928© at January 26, 2012 07:58 AM (GTbGH)

253 Which iswhy Iowa calls theirs a 'Caucus', right? .....So that they can get around that?

Posted by: wheatie at January 26, 2012 11:54 AM (ALwK/)

Nope, also applies to caucuses.

Posted by: Vic at January 26, 2012 07:58 AM (YdQQY)

254 Norm Coleman as a Mittens adviser?  He couldn't beat Al F*cking Franken for God's sake.

Another good call Mittens.

Posted by: mpfs at January 26, 2012 07:59 AM (iYbLN)

255 What makes you idiots think there's even going to be an election?

Posted by: Barry Obama, Dictator for Life at January 26, 2012 07:59 AM (UOM48)

256 AllenG you're such a shill. 

Posted by: mpfs at January 26, 2012 07:59 AM (iYbLN)

257

I don't know why anyone would try to compare Obama to Reagan.  I mean, Reagan is, like, the....the epiphany of everything that is wrong with the Republican Party.  Old.  White.  Completely uncool.  And, like, cruel to animals and stuff, even.

If you want Obama to be cool, you should compare him to cool presidents.  And one of the coolest presidents I can think of is Harrison Ford.  I mean, wow!  Don't you all remember that time he kept all those lesbians from taking over Air Force One?  I mean, yes, he was Republican I guess, since he was fighting lesbians, but MAN!  Wow.

So you should all totally do more to compare President Obama to President Ford.

And, on an aside, the strangest thing keeps happening.  When I got onto Wikipedia to look all this up, someone had the webpage for Ford all wrong.  I mean, they had the wrong picture, and had his name as "Gerald."  AS IF!  So I logged on and fixed it all.  But then went I went back later, they chagned it back.  I blame those Anon and Mouse hackers.

Posted by: Meggie McCain, Senior MSNBC Anal-ist at January 26, 2012 08:00 AM (sPO/s)

258 We should have an additional co-blogger devoted to comedy at the new site. I was thinking Meggy Mac. Everything she says is pretty funny. And insulting her would be more fun than hammering a troll.

Posted by: maddogg at January 26, 2012 08:00 AM (OlN4e)

259 AllenG you're such a shill.

Yeah.  I know.
I try to keep it down to reasonable levels.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Team Meteor. Now with Cheesecake at January 26, 2012 08:01 AM (8y9MW)

260 By the way, I'm going to go against the RNC on this.

I think that Florida going early, especially with proportional delegates, is a really good thing.  Florida is a very good look at what the general election voter is going to think, and is a great place to get an idea of how well our candidate is going to do in November.  It is a good balance to the over emphasis that Iowa and New Hampshire get.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at January 26, 2012 08:02 AM (RI0fC)

261

They all do this, and they always do this.

 

Mitch Daniels was of course, bestest SOTU response evah.

 

The media is completely corrupt. The yapping poodles on both sides are useless bots.

Posted by: Entropy, Racism Delenda Est at January 26, 2012 08:02 AM (mf67L)

262 I "Grinched" yesterday at the Early Voting. Not because I am especially fond of Newt, but I have become a whole hell of a lot less fond of the others. And I have developed some real contempt for Romney's wolf pack in the conservative media. This contempt has grown enormously in the last 6 hours. ******* Exactly. Well at least Ann Coulter got the message and stopped trolling here as -UNdead. OK that was mean of me. Catch you all later.

Posted by: tasker at January 26, 2012 08:02 AM (r2PLg)

263 Not to shill (well, okay, shilling a little) but have you hit my blog today? It gives a rough-draft of what I wish Mitt would have said from the beginning. It might help your husband if Mitt's the nominee.
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I'll check.  Thanks.

I know what I wish he had said.  He just never said it. 

What gained a little traction with my husband was summarizing the tax plans and also Obama's State of the Union.  But mostly my husband has developed a personal distrust of Romney and he does not think he's electable anyway. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 26, 2012 08:02 AM (5H6zj)

264 I watched Real Steel last night.  It's silly and juvenile and a little Disneyish.  There's swearing in it.  The kid swears.  The violence is toned down.  The CGI is exceptional.  2 stars.

Posted by: Truman North at January 26, 2012 08:02 AM (I2LwF)

265 Well after doing some more checking, it seems that the rules are a LOT more complicated. They can do all kinds of shit, but in general they will be proportional.

http://is.gd/rVk82e

Posted by: Vic at January 26, 2012 08:03 AM (YdQQY)

266 @11

You mean THIS new site?  She sure is taking her sweet time.  Ha Ha.

http://tinyurl.com/2fubqn7

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at January 26, 2012 08:03 AM (S1INM)

267 New site?!! Will there be cup holders? A grand opening with fabulous door prizes? Do tell!!!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at January 26, 2012 08:03 AM (xb+lF)

268 I see no way that RomneyBot can win in the general.  He certainly can't go after Barky on ObamaCare.  He too believes in man-made global warming - can't go after Barky there either.  He opposed the Contract with America in the 90's.  He has parroted discredited Keynesian economic theories in the past.  He's a 1%'er - the perfect foil for Barky's redistributive economic policy.

How in Hell does anyone believe he can beat Barky?

Posted by: Not an Artist at January 26, 2012 08:04 AM (fOPv7)

269 We're getting a new site?  Will that mean that we'll have a New New Comments Thingy?

Posted by: Meggie McCain, Senior MSNBC Anal-ist at January 26, 2012 08:05 AM (sPO/s)

270 Wearing a Meggy McCain sock is almost as bad as wearing Meggy McCain's socks.

Posted by: reason at January 26, 2012 08:06 AM (sPO/s)

271

61 Italic test How did you get that to work?

 

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It's all fun and games until Yoshi pokes someone's eye out tries to break the blog using bbcode.

 

Posted by: The A380 Management Process at January 26, 2012 08:06 AM (NmR1a)

272 "I'm trying to convince myself that there is something good or acceptable about each of them, mostly because I am trying to make sure I can get my husband to vote in the general."

The best way to do that is to keep the focus on what Obama has been doing to destroy this country. Hopefully he will end up voting ABO, as, I suspect, most of us are already.

Posted by: real joe at January 26, 2012 08:06 AM (979FD)

273 So AllenG, I'm not sure your column will work on my husband.  It relies too much on the Successful Capitalists should be president idea. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 26, 2012 08:06 AM (5H6zj)

274 Wonder sock powers DEACTIVATE!

Posted by: Anachronda at January 26, 2012 08:06 AM (NmR1a)

275 Gov Brewer' tarmac performance tends to put a man's concept of sleeping with a woman in a completely different context.

....as in having both eyes closed

....at the same time

Posted by: ontherocks at January 26, 2012 08:09 AM (ZJCDy)

276 And they act like Barry and Biden personally took them out.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2012 11:49 AM (UOM4

Don't diss us!

Making gutsy calls is tough!

Almost as hard as spending your grand-children's money!

Posted by: Barky O & Sharif Joe at January 26, 2012 08:10 AM (i3+c5)

277 Wonder if Obama is planning to tap her for VP...

Posted by: blindside at January 26, 2012 11:24 AM (x7g7t)


Please God make this be true, Bev(Cancel the elections) Perdue, the only democrat dumber than Biden to replace Biden?

I like it.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at January 26, 2012 08:10 AM (tWFaN)

278

MITT ROMNEY 2012.

All the Conservativism and Personality of Al Gore, with 1/3 Less AGW and Zero Chakras per Serving.

Posted by: reason at January 26, 2012 08:10 AM (q/kmn)

279 Note a lot of these words, like sanguine, just mean optimistic.

Point of interest: It also means bloody.

Posted by: Wikitorix at January 26, 2012 08:10 AM (RvG4o)

280 The MSM keeps going on and on about this primary lasting into June, and all the blood it is letting.  Did they forget about the Democratic primary 4 years ago.  I thought that would never end !

Posted by: RUReadingthis at January 26, 2012 08:11 AM (V92KK)

281 So AllenG, I'm not sure your column will work on my husband. It relies too much on the Successful Capitalists should be president idea.

It's the one weapon he's really got, though.

If he had more, I might be more willing to support him.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Team Meteor. Now with Cheesecake at January 26, 2012 08:11 AM (8y9MW)

282

Wonder if Obama is planning to tap her for VP...

THERE'S a visual that'll haunt me.

Posted by: reason at January 26, 2012 08:12 AM (q/kmn)

283 How in Hell does anyone believe he can beat Barky?

Posted by: Not an Artist at January 26, 2012 12:04 PM (fOPv7)

Because it is Mitt's turn.  Trust us, this has always worked well for us in the past!

Posted by: Hrothgar RNC Establishment Shill at January 26, 2012 08:13 AM (i3+c5)

284 @271

Hmm, go to the link on Ace's "new" site three years ago.

 Note the top banner.

Login???  Does this mean ace is going to registration to comment????

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at January 26, 2012 08:13 AM (tWFaN)

285 re: Buffet's secretary. There is a lot of conflicting information out there about her. ABC news interviewed her and claimed she pays 35.8% in taxes. There is no way she makes $60,000 per year and pays that rate. You don't hit 35% until you make over $250,000 after deductions. Obama as an example made $1.6 Million and paid 25%.

Posted by: robtr at January 26, 2012 08:13 AM (MtwBb)

286

129 So will the new site featured a Revised New Comments Thingy or a New New Comments Thingy?

 

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Would you believe "Two Hamsters One Wheel Comment Thingy"?

 

Posted by: Agent Misa at January 26, 2012 08:13 AM (FzhYM)

287 288 Wonder if Obama is planning to tap her for VP...
THERE'S a visual that'll haunt me.

I know her, she not bad for an old bitch.  Nice fake tits and shitty face lift.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at January 26, 2012 08:14 AM (tWFaN)

288 271 @11

You mean THIS new site? She sure is taking her sweet time. Ha Ha.

http://tinyurl.com/2fubqn7

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at January 26, 2012 12:03 PM (S1INM) 


I've wondered about that -- does Pixy have a gender? If so, is he/she/it aware of what it is?

Posted by: joncelli, too stressed by half at January 26, 2012 08:15 AM (RD7QR)

289 I think Pixy is a guy.  It has been discussed before.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at January 26, 2012 08:16 AM (tWFaN)

290 Taranto is right. He sounded pissed. Mr Scoldy-Pants hits one out of the park. Bluestockings everywhere are orgasmic.

Posted by: Cricket at January 26, 2012 08:16 AM (DrC22)

291

Not to shill (well, okay, shilling a little) but have you hit my blog
today? It gives a rough-draft of what I wish Mitt would have said from
the beginning. It might help your husband if Mitt's the nominee.

----

Romney's strategy, so far as I'm convinced, was calculated to skip running for the GOP nom altogether and just coast on inevitability so it would be easier for him to pander left during the general.

 

This guy will, so far as I'm convinced and so far as virtually all his staff has no experience doing anything else in their campaign history, run left in the general and toss the Tea Party under the bus, appeal to moderates by insulting conservatives to their faces, and demoralize the fuck out of everybody.

Posted by: Entropy, Racism Delenda Est at January 26, 2012 08:16 AM (mf67L)

292 Time Magazine: An Optimistic President Talks to a Pessimistic Nation



Seriously.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at January 26, 2012 08:17 AM (HN/S8)

293 Look up "bbcode" to find the tags for doing italics, bolding and the like. Supposedly it handles urls, too.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at January 26, 2012 08:17 AM (Ml6be)

294 >>>How in Hell does anyone believe he can beat Barky?

****

I don't know if he can or not, but he has a much, much better shot than Newt.  If Mitt has a 40% chance, Newt's is 20%.

What makes Newt attractive to many Republicans also happen to be things the general electorate either dislike or don't care about.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 26, 2012 08:19 AM (SY2Kh)

295 How in Hell does anyone believe he can beat Barky?

Because the voters always like Dem Lite instead of the real thing.

Posted by: real joe at January 26, 2012 08:20 AM (979FD)

296 >>It's the one weapon he's really got, though.

Yeah.  But it also makes for an uphill battle after three plus years of Obama's class warfare stuff. 

One thing about his background is that it makes him somewhat predictable in terms of instincts/motivations.  But that is also a two-edged sword because it's clear what's good for Mitt is not necessarily what's good for us and he is weaker than most politicians (who are almost always richer and more powerful than the rest of us anyway) at projecting that he understands "regular people." 

Someone else said keep reminding about Obama.  But I really think for some of us (my husband more than me, but even me to some extent) at some point you hit a WTF moment, decide you're doomed anyway, nothing is going to save you, so why bother? 

That's partly Gingrich's appeal to many of us, I think.  The idea that he might do one or two bold things that actually help us.  Shit, he's the only one who remaining who has a flat tax in his proposals. 

Because Romney does not know the Beltway as an insider and because he is not naturally combative against Democrats, I find it nearly impossible to believe he would do anything major to counter them.  I think we get four more years of Mitch McConnell and John Boehner style leadership.  At least with Newt there's a good chance he will drive Congress to take the fight to the Democrats.  He can be bold in that arena because he knows it. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 26, 2012 08:20 AM (5H6zj)

297

Successful Capitalists should be president

Show me one?

 

We can't have successful capitalists because we haven't any free markets for them to succeed in except at the margins. The capitalists are all drug dealers and cathouse pimps.

 

All the successful people are in bed with government.

Posted by: Entropy, Racism Delenda Est at January 26, 2012 08:21 AM (mf67L)

298

The guy who lies to everyone and will say anything doesn't want to lie to us, avoids it like the plague.

 

I think he doesn't want other people to see him associating with us or even pandering to us if he can help it. Because he hates us, and fully intends to screw us sideways.

Posted by: Entropy, Racism Delenda Est at January 26, 2012 08:25 AM (mf67L)

299 I'll vote for Ron Paul if he promises to replace the SOTU speech with a congressional subscription to his newsletter.

Posted by: Alex at January 26, 2012 08:25 AM (GgXZc)

300 300 >>>How in Hell does anyone believe he can beat Barky?

****

I don't know if he can or not, but he has a much, much better shot than Newt. If Mitt has a 40% chance, Newt's is 20%.

What makes Newt attractive to many Republicans also happen to be things the general electorate either dislike or don't care about.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 26, 2012 12:19 PM (SY2Kh)

--

I don't agree with the percentages you quote.  I would say their chances to beat Obama would be about the same at maybe 30 to 40%.  In my opinion, in order to beat an incumbent you have to present a stark contrast. Mittens can't do that - Hell, he's the same as Barkypants.

I realize Newt's negatives are high, but that can and would change if he were to win the nomination. 

Posted by: Not an Artist at January 26, 2012 08:26 AM (fOPv7)

301 Yeah, I think Romney and Newt have roughly the same chance of defeating Obama and that it is under 50% for both of them.  The paths are very different and the sorts of rehabilitation that each would require by all of us starting at the Convention and moving forward are different.  But both have a shot and neither is a lock to beat him in my opinion. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 26, 2012 08:28 AM (5H6zj)

302 On to Detroit (Airport)!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at January 26, 2012 08:29 AM (Xv4+T)

303 I try to keep my hopes up by believing polls saying Barky has lost the independents.

Posted by: real joe at January 26, 2012 08:32 AM (979FD)

304

"Can we trade Vermont to Canada for a six pack of Labatt's Blue ???"

You want us to take the progressive ski hill called Vermont? Why do you hate Canada?
We'll give you Quebec, and a six pack, to keep Vermont.

Posted by: Doowleb at January 26, 2012 08:34 AM (r+Gn+)

305 Maybe by "Reaganesque", they mean rotting in a box somewhere, putrid with the stench of death and organic rot.

Posted by: Reaganesque not mean what you think it means at January 26, 2012 08:34 AM (tN/BV)

306 Will the new site require reading?

Posted by: Riding Through The Desert On A Sock With No Name at January 26, 2012 08:39 AM (FE6vU)

307 I think journalists (journo listas?) have a more important problem than being liberal and lazy: being biased. I have many friends who are liberal, but relatively open to facts (ok, sometimes have to hit them over the head, repeatedly). so, being liberal does not necessarily mean being biased.

Posted by: netsailer at January 26, 2012 08:39 AM (KK903)

308

Note a lot of these words, like sanguine, just mean optimistic

 

Well, it means confident... and BLOODY.  Disturbingly appropriate choice of words.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 26, 2012 08:41 AM (Iaxlk)

309 Romney's strategy, so far as I'm convinced, was calculated to skip running for the GOP nom altogether and just coast on inevitability so it would be easier for him to pander left during the general.
---

"And it would have worked, too, if it weren't for those meddling kids!"  ;-) 

Posted by: Y-not at January 26, 2012 08:45 AM (5H6zj)

310

Obama has emerged in recent weeks, given a string of political victories

Really? where are these victories they speak? if this is victory, our hands are too small to hold it.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at January 26, 2012 08:50 AM (1hM1d)

311 From Newsbusters:

ABC This Week host Christiane Amanpour proclaimed that Obama's address was "full of sunny optimism, very Reaganesque, on and on about American exceptionalism in many, many instances and full of Kennedyesque encouragement to break a new frontier. That Sputnik moment was remarkable."

On CBS, Evening News anchor Katie Couric touted how political analyst Jeff Greenfield thought it was "down right Reaganesque" and that "some" have argued "this could be his Reagan moment."
Correspondent Andrea Mitchell chimed in: "That's exactly what he was trying to get after and I think he was trying to invoke the optimism, the can-do spirit that brings to mind Ronald Reagan in these settings."
Later in the CBS coverage, Face the Nation host Bob Schieffer reiterated the Reagan comparison: "[Obama's] Reagan moment was when he made that speech in Tucson. But I think he kind of built on that tonight. I thought this speech was something of an extension of that speech."




Posted by: Sterling Archer at January 26, 2012 11:24 AM (1H47k)

312 This "Reaganesque" stuff is just funnier than hell. Many of these same liberals were slobbering all over themselves to denounce Reagan as having a lower IQ than an amoeba.

These people are just horribly embarrassing themselves. Do let me know when the small child comes forth and tells them that "Teh Emperor is NAKED". It will take some of these dolts years (if ever) to realize how they were taken in by this charlatan.

Reagan came to be known as the Great Communicator. The best Barry can hope for is the Great Pretender.

Posted by: dissent555 at January 26, 2012 08:39 PM (yR6A1)

313 Please, Michelle, take my sperm so I will have children who approximate His greatness.

Posted by: TheGiver at January 27, 2012 01:23 AM (XAxVj)

314 ... and have an unerring sense of fashion.

Posted by: TheGiver at January 27, 2012 01:26 AM (XAxVj)

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