1 And there's a certain percentage of liberal voters who will fall for it every time.

2 Sandra Fluke isn't all who she claims to be.  Story at the Sidebar.

3 We really need to decide what we fighting about in this election. Tut, tut, don't worry your pretty little heads. We'll decide...

4 The focus will be back on the economy when gas hits $4.00/gallon nationwide. These (political) sexual gymnastics are just a warm-up act.

5 >>Is it the economy and Obama's unprecedented power grabs or the sexual morals of America?


I think you know MY answer.

6 Oh, shut the fuck up. She's a 30-something slut who never learned to keep her knees together. She's a whore who can't even give good service -- she demands everyone pay for her sex, but probably only puts out on special sorority nights when it's just her, her "sisters", and their utility belts.

7 Posted by: rickl at March 02, 2012 01:21 PM (zoehZ)


..... I'll take "What is 100%" for $500 Alex.

8 >>These (political) sexual gymnastics are just a warm-up act.

Yeah, It's hard for me to see how this stays in the public view for 8 more months.

9 She's wealthy enough to attend Georgetown Law but too fucking poor to buy her own jimmy hats.

10

Sandra Fluke in

THE CUMDUMPSTER SUBSIDY

11

Washington Democratic Rep. Norm Dicks, the top Democrat on the powerful House Appropriations Committee, says he'll retire at the end of the year after 18 terms in the House.

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Now if the rest of the Dicks would retire we'd be in business.

.

I know, that one was cheap and too easy.... 

12 This is Breitbart's legacy. You have to confront the Left on their lies. Fluke is flat out lying and she has to be called on it openly. The Right could care less if she sleeps her way through her entire educational career. Don't ask us to pay for it. It's not her healthcare needs, it's her having someone else pay for the products she is choosing to use.

13 I am proud of Presdent Obama and Sandle Lukes. They represent everything good about America and the women's health issues. Good for Sandle Luke for standing ups for us little peoprle.

14 So just because Sandra needs BC we are supposed to pay for it?Sandra go to PPH, it's free.And Rush... Shut the fuck up...

15 Huh? Seems like the story is that some 30 year old woman who has sex multiple times per day at a catholic school wants us to pay for her birth control. It's an outrage.

16 Exhibit A for why Santorum will fail catastrophically in the general election.

17 She's only at Georgetown because someone else is paying for that, too.

18 Something you should know about this person

19 Maybe Obama is in to ugly white chicks. I denounce myself.

20 She's a 30-something slut who never learned to keep her knees together. She's a whore who can't even give good service -- she demands everyone pay for her sex, but probably only puts out on special sorority nights when it's just her, her "sisters", and their utility belts.

Who gives a shit?  The argument should be about Obama's egregious violation of religious conviction, not about one particular woman's sexual habits.  The left wanted to change the conversation and Rush stumbled right into their trap.

21 This was all planned a long time ago. The Left choreographed this whole thing in order to get certain people to respond. And here right on cue is Rush Limbaugh. Now here's your part in the Left's plan: You're supposed to bite your nails and alienate Rush Limbaugh. Will you play your part? Some of you will, yes.

22 Rush made an excellent point. I'm having trouble understanding the faux-outrage from the left.

23 Our little girl has made us proud.

24 Don't want to get pregnant? Blow me!

25 I think this like everything else Obama does, helps in short-term, hurts him longterm. The women who think conservatives want to regulate their sex lives will forget about all of this if Romney or Newt is the nominee. Meanwhile, religious independents aren't going to forget Obama's attack on religious freedom.

26

Target charges $9 a month for contraception for the uninsured. Condoms are free in many places.

 

 

For $9 a month, a faith is being compelled to change a belief it has held for 2000 years. That's astonishing.

 

 

I'm a woman. If women employees of Catholic institutions have been suffering for lo these many years because the Church wouldn't buy them pills or pay for their abortions, those hard working boys and girls in the media _never_ mentioned it. It's almost like this controversy has been ginned up to 1) spread hatred among people, like community organizers do and 2) force Catholic hospitals to close, which would create more of a "necessity" for single-payer health care.

27 Fluke is like many of the Hurricane Katrina parasites, or that woman who "got evicted" in Florida: a pre-fab sob story to trot in front of cameras to turn on the government spigot, but when background-checked just a teensy bit reeks of charlatanism and professional victimhood.

28 You know what? I blame stupid-ass Georgetown. Really guys? You do any looking into your JD candidates? She was clearly a poor fit for a Catholic college. She was a 30 year old activist who was *looking* for an opportunity to challenge a Catholic institution. Maybe it's time for Catholic schools - all Catholic schools - to vet their incoming students a tad better.

29 Something that's been bothering me for a while now.  But as AB said, they set the narrative.  And it works like a charm when you have that media power.  One stupid question from Stephaluphagus and a month later, "pffffft...what economic or employment problems?"

They made a mistake on this one though, just like their attacks on the acorn videos, they are too early.  This one has the opportunity to be turned into huge mocking on them.  Not that I think we should give it any more time, unless talked about in terms of the tragedy of socialist healthcare obamacare.

30 13 I am proud of Presdent Obama and Sandle Lukes. They represent everything good about America and the women's health issues. Good for Sandle Luke for standing ups for us little peoprle.

  Wow, maybe you should concentrate on learning  how to spell instead of making ridiculous  statements.

31 Do we know why men don't buy condoms? I mean if you're handing out milk you'd expect them to bring their own bucket.

32 She's a whore who can't even give good service -- she demands everyone pay for her sex, but probably only puts out on special sorority nights when it's just her, her "sisters", and their utility belts.Posted by: Ass

Yeah, that's a winning message for the election.

Oh look, monkey, a shiny, shiny thing! Here, monkey! Look, shiny!

33 Drew, your blaming Rush is stupid. He scorned her and she deserved it. The left can make a martyr any time they want.

34

No shit.  I can't believe Rush is effing this up so badly.

35 PUNCH UP!, Rush.

36

Not for nothing, but I'm tiring of Rush.  Like the rest of the GOP, he diverts the message from defeating Obama to stupid nonsense like contraceptives.  This stuff keeps up, and we're gonna lose big in November because no one is going to remember Obama's jackassery.

 

/rant

37 This is not about sexual morals, it's about liberty. We do not want one person to make personal choices and force others (whose business it ISN'T) to pay for their personal choices. Why not buy them cigarettes and tattoos as well?

38 I agree with Miss Fluke. Pregnancy is like a parsitic infection of the women's body. When will men realize this fact ? Woman must be more careful when it comes to men and their true advance.......

39

You'd think that since the gummint is all about keeping their stinking hands off her precious feminist body that she'd return the damn favor and keep her theiving hands off the taxpayers' wallet.  

 

8-beer slut I can deal with.  Hypocritical leftoid I can't.

40 >>Who gives a shit? The argument should be about Obama's egregious violation of religious conviction, not about one particular woman's sexual habits.

Even that's too micro. We should be focusing on Obama's egregious violation of forcing us to buy something we don't necessarily want.

41 "The Rosa Parks of the conservative war on contraception". That's a good description or what they are trying to make her, but she's not. As far as I'm concerned most people whom Obama calls to congratulate are people I neither admire or respect, and am SO glad she is not my daughter. No doubt her parents are some liberals who think her utterances are prizeworthy, but whatever any conservatives say or do liberals will always object. Give her a job in the Obama administration NOW; They might as well. I have already lost a liberal friend over the fact that I believe this an issue of conscience and an attack on the church and they don't. At this point I don't care.

42 That's some silencing. She's testified in front of some Congressional members before Rush says a word and after the DNC has created the bullet point for dissemination for a couple of weeks. And now she's bitching about The Silencing™ on national TV.

Were she any more silenced, Fluke would awaken Susan B. Anthony's corpse.

43 Fluke sounded like a skank, Georgetown should be ashamed.

44 So where was Obama, Pelosi, Lauer, Geortown University, and Fluke when Sarah Palin's detractors were screaming 'Cunt' at her during personal appearances? Or those that wore t-shirts to her appearances with the word 'cunt' emblazoned across the front? Or the wannabe hack knit blogger that  used the same word in her 'artistic' creations? Or the armies of liberal twitterers, Kos posters, Huffpo followers, etc, etc, etc, that all used the word cunt to attack SP?

This sudden indignation on the part of the left rings hollow.

45 Someone needs to talk to her fellow female students at Georgetown Law.  She has cast them as a bad "law school girls gone wild" website. The job market is extremely tight for attorneys right now and your personal reputation is extremely important if you want to be hired by prestigious law firms. Clients care about reputations.

46 39 I agree with Miss Fluke. Pregnancy is like a parsitic infection of the women's body. When will men realize this fact ? Woman must be more careful when it comes to men and their true advance.......   ---------------   Like a man has ever advanced on you.  Shoo, troll.

47 Yes, keep focusing on Rush. Turn on him. Because that's exactly what you're supposed to do.

48 Ross Limburgh is a big fat idiot and blownhart. I wish Presdent Obama would take him off TV.....

49 Even that's too micro. We should be focusing on Obama's egregious violation of forcing us to buy something we don't necessarily want.

That works too.  The message is getting muddled with stupid crap, though, and Rush is leading the charge.

50 I think I understand your frustration, DrewM, but fights like this can handle (and probably require) different voices approaching it from different angles. I realize (and tend to agree) that we may be missing the forest (government intrusion on our lives in a broader sense) for the trees (government forcing religious groups to go against their consciences), but for some people the way Rush frames this is exactly how they need to have it portrayed. The media is going to call us prudish bigots no matter what we do... except, perhaps that old hound Newt Gingrich! lol... so I wouldn't sweat it.

51 lol dagny I love that expression with the buckets . . . awesome, had not heard that before!

52 "All she does is fuck? Quick, get me her number."

53

this is pretty much why I stopped listening to talk radio.

 

Rush makes everything about himself. Beck makes everything about himself and his faith.

Sean Hannity is about an entertaining as a Construction Foreman.

Michael Savage went insane a few years ago.

 

54 This Sandra Fluke woman was claiming that contraception cost $3,000 a year... a cost she wanted someone else, taxpayers, other people on her insurance plan... to pay for.

An enterprising reporter found out that not only are free condoms abundantly available on the Georgetown campus, but birth patrol pills could be acquired from local merchants for as little as $9 a month.

So, at most, it would cost $108 a year for birth patrol pills. What did she need the other $2,892 for? That's what, four or five abortions? Now, unlike Andrew Sullivan, I am not an expert on female reproduction systems. But I wouldn't think a woman can get pregnant five times in a normal year.

55 She was clearly a poor fit for a Catholic college. She was a 30 year old activist who was *looking* for an opportunity to challenge a Catholic institution.

Maybe it's time for Catholic schools - all Catholic schools - to vet their incoming students a tad better.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 02, 2012 01:26 PM (SB0V2)

 

YA THINK?

 

But no. They'll go the opposite direction. In fact, Archbishop Wuerl will capitulate and say that we need to be more charitible in 5..4..3..2..

 

 

56 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

57 This is the kind of shit that makes us lose everything. We denounce our own side when the left would be going to the mattresses.

58 >>Not for nothing, but I'm tiring of Rush. Like the rest of the GOP, he diverts the message from defeating Obama to stupid nonsense like contraceptives.

I've been tiring of him as well. Lately I can't get through a segment without changing the station or being irritated at him. His flip flop on Romney from 4 years ago is especially irritating.

59 Fucking ragtime. Every day in the comments is the same old ragtime.

60 Really, were you all really outraged with Rush at his scorning this activist bitch? I bet not until Drew told you to. This is incredibly stupid. Blame Rush, yeah that works.

61
Limbaugh's attacks have been so squarely off base it has become hard to listen too. I think he went over the line, and has spent a whole week trying to spin it as not over the line. It has been totally self serving. Instead of concentrating on the real story which is she is a plant, and a planned agitator, he has subverted his own message, our message, and this cause in general.

I stood by him in "I hope he fails" I thought it was the truth and the right thing to say.

This is f*king killing us and there is no way to defend it. A woman who thinks it's someone else's responsibility to pay for her contraception is not a prostitute, she's a childish entitleist narcissist; but not a prostitute.

It ain't the "truth" Rush, there ain't no "I should say it because it's the truth" defense Rush. Because it's just not. So instead of maligning her for the unusual belief that someone else should be forced to pay for her contraception, he maligns her for her sexual habits. Lose lose lose lose.

62 52 I just made it up! Just now. Heh.

63

Are we going to have to pay to have Ms. Fluke's bush pruned as well?

64 So when can we go back to talking about the real issues, such as "trans-vaginal" or "ass-to-ass"?

65

I've been tiring of him as well. Lately I can't get through a segment without changing the station or being irritated at him. His flip flop on Romney from 4 years ago is especially irritating.
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Between paid commrcials and on-air commercials, his last hour is unlistenable.

66

Not a very bright law sudent if she didn't think that "trestifying" to a bunch of made up shit in front of Congress would raise eyebrows.

67 Did any of you even listen to Andrew Breitbart's CPAC speech?

68 In fact, Archbishop Wuerl will capitulate and say that we need to be morecharitible in 5..4..3..2.. effing Jesuits I blame them for so many of the Church's problems. A-holes. You guys can thank the Jesuits for Chris Matthews' excellent logical fallacies as well

69 This woman is not sympathetic, don't worry. Contraception, that is all they got.

70 61 Really, were you all really outraged with Rush at his scorning this activist bitch? I bet not until Drew told you to. This is incredibly stupid. Blame Rush, yeah that works.

 His message was right, but his delivery was wrong...

71 53 is me. Obviously, last week's sock puppet didn't get reset. These internets are hard.

72 I don't think that's going to work out for Obama as well as he thinks: Fluke isn't some poor, deprived Georgetown student, she's a lefty activist and part of the perpetually aggrieved class.

So, in short- of course the left is going bonkers, and they're hoping the Right will do exactly what you're doing, Drew: blaming Limbaugh for the Left's actions, and ignoring the fact that a known liberal shill is trying to have more of our liberty removed.

If she doesn't like being called a slut, she shouldn't admit to it in front of a congressional panel.

73

As long as the progessive liberals control the media, we will always be fighting with a handicap.  The fact that this religious freedom argument is being framed as "conservatives hate sex and women" shows how the playing field is not even.  The American populace is dummed down sufficiently that the media can spin the truth, and the people will buy it.

We need a long game strategy to infiltrate schools and the media. 

At the end of the day, we lose unless this is framed in the proper light: "Obamacare's unconstitutional mandates violate the free exercise of religion." 

Rush may be right.  But we are losign the battle of public opinion.

Plus, this is a total distraction from winning campaign issues: the economy.

74 The fact is this chick decided to make her sex life an issue, but she is too much of a baby to take the flak from a private citizen like Limbaugh. Cry me a river. The reason Rush countered her the way he did was because she decided to climb up on the cross of female victimhood. Had she merely stated her political opinion, the counter arguments would have stayed political. She decided to make it personal. And it's still a far cry from the Administration and its cronies' personal vendettas against the Joe the Plumbers of this world.

75 Rush has gotten too fucking big and doesn't pay any attention to the "little people" he claims to be speaking for.  His schtick has gotten extremely unprofessional.

76 The proper GOP position is simple, at least for us libertarians:

Screw whomever you want (within the usual ethical bounds) but don't expect us to pick up the bill.

77 Lets just say that, for being a law student, her ability to truthfully testify is severely lacking. 

78

We denounce our own side when the left would be going to the mattresses.

 

I see what you did there.

79

I mean if you're handing out milk you'd expect them to bring their own bucket.

I'm only bringing a bucket if you've got more than two funbags... like the mutant from Total Recall or something.

80 Pregnancy is like a parsitic infection of the women's body.



--No, it's not, because many women want that "infection."

Fly out of here you crazy bat.

81 >>>Turn on him.
Because that's exactly what you're supposed to do.


Oh screw that noise. If we can't rebuke our own when they are clearly over the line, then we are lying like the left. We become the lies we hate.

82 Jimmah, "for being a law student"?!?!?! you mean to say a law student should be . . . at all honest?!?!

83 13, 39, 49 Whoever is socking Mary C. cracks me up. You have that liberal caricature down pat. LOL

84 Why would anything the Party of Stupid does surprise you?

85

Sorry I am not getting on the bash Rush train. Rush is Rush, he says shit like this. That is why people listen to him. Sometimes it hurts sometimes it helps.

 

What he said wouldn't have been said if we didn't have a candidate that has let the left use his quotes on rubbers to change the subject.

 

If anyone played into the lefts plan it was Rick Santorum. The argument should have always been on the first amemdment and government forcing you to buy an insurance policy you don't want. Instead we have Santorum saying birth control is bad for women and bad for the country.

 

 

86 As for Ms Fluke, I suspect within a week we're going to hear the same sort of 'Never mind...' we heard from Obama and the Democrats when the Occutards started crapping on police cars.

87

61 Really, were you all really outraged with Rush at his scorning this activist bitch? I bet not until Drew told you to. This is incredibly stupid. Blame Rush, yeah that works.

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I don't blame Rush, per se.  I blame the GOP establishment, its candidates, and yes, talkers like Rush who focus on stupid shit like this instead of focusing about the important issues needed to get this SCOAMF out of office.  Fluke is a troll, and like most trolls, she should be ignored, IMO.

88

Drew,

 

I'm sorry, but you are pathetic.  In the wake of Andrew Breibart's death you do exactly what he dedicated his life to fighting.  Instead of making a principled argument for or against what Limbaugh actually said, you accept the liberal spin and attack our own side.

 

When will the right figure out the accepting the left's framing of issues is a no-win proposition.  Good lord, Drew, grow a set of balls.

89 Jeez, just turned Rush on and he's yabbering about this.

Off!

90 Yes, let's pile on Limbaugh for making a mockery of this Fluke and her "needs." It's always best to kneecap those who lead as opposed to letting leaders have their say while complementing them with your own critique of the target.

Good grief. Now I understand the source of the Stupid Party's ground game.

91 You know, I was curious to see what a girl who goes through $3000 worth of condoms a year looked like so I googled her. I think her biggest cost is actually the booze for the 'lucky' men she trolls for at the campus bar. Also, how old is this 'student'? She looks like she's pushing 40.

92 The house is burning down.

We need to stop letting the left distract us with arguments about what color paint to use on the walls. Arguing about contraceptives is for losers. Get rid of Obama, and we can just shut down Obama "care" and be done with it.


We need to hammer Obama on his 50% tax on all wages and savings ( Also known as "loosening the money supply" ).

93 I was always under the impression that the Rosa Parks incident was every bit as contrived as this Sandra Fluke bullshit. 

94 She's a nasty little freeloader who wants the taxpayer to foot the bill so she can fuck whoever and not get knocked up. Fuck the nasty little whore parasite. If Zero want to show people what he's about, great. It will work out like the leftards embracing OWS as their own, right up to the  moment the public figured out what they were too.

95 @46:  As an attorney looking for work, I would bet she guaranteed herself a job coming out of college.  There are plenty of firms that will embrace her as a liberal hero for what she has accomplished this week.     

96 IMHO Rush fell intro the trap. He forgets that the entire MSM is in on this contraception issue(remember George's question in the debate?) and Fluke was just another bullet in their gun.

His words will be quoted and requoted until the entire issue is lost in the fog of war.

97

Boy, this site (particularly the Romneybots)sure does seem to have a persistent problem with Rush.

If you actually listened, you would get the point that he is making.  Instead you once again fall for the manufactured outrage.  You people help the left more than the fricking media.

98

I blame them for so many of the Church's problems. A-holes. You guys can thank the Jesuits for Chris Matthews' excellent logical fallacies as well

 

 

Exactly.

 

 

I actually think that other than the loony Pelosi set you'd have trouble finding people that think they should pay for other's condoms/pills/ etc.

 

This makes Monica Lewisky look chaste.

99 So in a short time the story has gone from Obama's attack on religious freedom and overreaching regulatory state to prudish conservatives who hate sex and attack sexually active women.

It is absolutely breathtaking (albiet none surprising) that the Left has been able to so easily do this.  Where the f*** are the Republicans to slam this shit back in the right direction...aimed at King Barry and his attack on religious freedom?  Holy mother of G*d.  The ease with which they can redirect the narrative is like taking candy from a baby.  We are freaking doomed.

100 No doubt they intend to make her the Rosa Parks of conservatism war on contraception and sex or something.

Yeah, I really don't see things working out that way.  Forcing someone to sit in the back of the bus is obviously wrong.  This, not so much.  I have the feeling that this is going to blow up in their faces. 

101 Reproductive Justice? Is that, like, "it's simply unjust to let scrunts like Sandra Fluke reproduce"? Or am I missing something?

102 Having actually listened to Rush on this, he is in fact making the part where it's an Obama power grab the central issue.

103 The Democrats put this contraception tar-baby right into the Republicans' path, and the Republicans just jumped right in with all hands and feet flying.  And now the GOP is well and truly stuck.

As Ace has said, the economy's in the shitter, the Dems have screwed it up and continue to make it worse, and the GOP is making culture wars the focus of the election, or letting the Dems bait it into doing so.

Nice going, Stupid Party.

104 >>>Like a man has ever advanced on you. Shoo, troll.

I have never understood why folks insist on attacking long established well known socks. It's like a moonbat walking up to Colbert and starting an argument with him.

105 Don't want to get pregnant? Blow me!
Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 02, 2012 01:26 PM (FcR7P)

Thread.  Winner.

106 >>Really, were you all really outraged with Rush at his scorning this activist bitch? I bet not until Drew told you to.

No I was irritated at Rush for this when I saw the story on Yahoo news. He's smart enough to know that this is a distraction. So it seems obvious that he's trying to get attention on himself, rather then fight the larger battle.

107 Supposedly theres an I-phone app for getting free contraceptives, with driving map. On the rare occasion that she might find herself needing to go get some.

108 Have you guys seen the memes on this? I will put the link in my siggie.

109 I'm sorry, but stupid 30 yo-pretending to be 23 yo- whores testifying on Capitol Hill need to be called out. 

110 @86 - Santorum's this social-con bull that just can't keep himself from charging when the red cape's waved in front of him, and the Democrat/Media Complex has a very large supply of red capes.

I wish we had a real conservative in the race, but absent that I'll take the guy who knows the value of a nickel. 

 "Social con" does not equal "conservative".

111 So lemme get this straight, this WHORE, whines in front of congress wanting tax payers to pay for her wanton ways, Rush pontificates about it, and it's somehow his fault that she's in the news?

I've seen some seriously stupid anti-Rush nonsense posted here, this takes the fucking cake.

112 She's wealthy enough to attend Georgetown Law

My daughter has hopes of going there and tells me (with a pleading look in her eyes) that the annual cost is about $60k.  So, buy your own supplies, because this isn't even a rounding error.

113 If Sandra Fluke had SlitLock, she wouldn't need to testify before Congress. Get SlitLock for only $24.99 per month, and keep your uterus from falling into the wrong hands.

114 Speaking of talk radio, Greg Anthony is in Jim Rome's show.  One of "our guys" who is also well-spoken has a great perspective on the NBA.

115

Where the f*** are the Republicans to slam this shit back in the right direction...aimed at King Barry and his attack on religious freedom?

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THIS!

116 So because Democrats twist shit to make their argument, we're not supposed to say stuff in the first place? Have I got that right, Drew?

117

DrewM:

 

I am not sure I agree with you on this one.  I am not sure the economic and the sexual issues are really separate here.  I think the point to be made is that the left wants you and me to subsidize their lifestyle.  I think that is a fight (and distinction) worth making.

 

 

118 The message needs to be whore around all you want... on your dime.

119 78 Lets just say that, for being a law student, her ability to truthfully testify is severely lacking.

Posted by: Jimmah at March 02, 2012 01:33 PM (Gbec2)

 

 

Not sure you thought that one through all the way...

120

As we continue to drive off of the economic cliff at breakneck speed, as we continue to witness an out of control administration who will lie, cheat, smear, and do anything to retain power against the best interests of the American people - I don't give a shit about social issues right now. 

The entire Obamacare bill needs to be repealed.  I don't want to get stuck in the weeeds discussing what this broad says or what Limbaugh says.

 

121 I didn't read the post.

122 @111: And yet, somehow, it's always socially liberal Republicans who end up abandoning fiscal responsibility and going whole hog.  Exhibit 1: The Governator.

123
Meh.... you lost me at "contraception is costing me $3000.00 per year".

124 I haven't heard much of Rush this week, but I'm going to defend him, in general, against this tendency of late to crap on him.

Rush Limbaugh *makes* conservatives. He gets inattentive people to pay attention and notice what the liberals are doing. Before Rush Limbaugh, I didn't notice the liberal bias surrounding me.

Andrew Breitbart became a conservative whilst listening to talk radio. Who do you think he was listening to back then?

Rush Limbaugh is not the problem.

125 This slut wants to be Anita Hill.

126 The left is using this to distract the public. Looks to me like a lot of people around here are distracted. Whores want free stuff is a central part of the socialist platform. Don't be an ass.

127
I agree with this slut, its not like her parents can pay for her slut pills while slutting her way slut school.

128 So lemme get this straight, this WHORE, whines in front of congress wanting tax payers to pay for her wanton ways, Rush pontificates about it, and it's somehow his fault that she's in the news?

I didn't hear about her until she was tied to Rush. I suspect that's the case with a lot of people. So yeah, he punched down and made her a bigger story than needed to be and he's at fault for that.

129 Sandra, you ignorant slut.

130 Remember Nailin' Palin? 

Sandra Fluke stars in:

Skin Fluke

131 >>She's a nasty little freeloader who wants the taxpayer to foot the bill so she can fuck whoever and not get knocked up.

She'd get a lot more taxpayer dollars if she did get knocked up. Local and state taxpayers are already paying millions for contraception for "poor women" that they can't be bothered to learn about/remember to use correctly, partly for cultural reasons (no baby = why don't men want you?) and partly because getting knocked up has great financial incentives.


Anyway, I don't hate sluts. I hate cheap, grasping, lying sluts who despise me because I'm not giving them enough of my money.  QEFD.

132

I don't want to be in the position to force people to adopt my lifestyle, so why should I be put into the position of paying for their lifestyle.  I think that is a very libertarian message -- not just a socon message

133 So it appears this 30 year old went to Georgetown for the specific purpose of overturning the Catholic college's insurance policies in regards to contraceptive coverage.

Innocent co-ed my Aunt Fanny.

134 I didn't hear about her until she was tied to Rush. I suspect that's the case with a lot of people. So yeah, he punched down and made her a bigger story than needed to be and he's at fault for that.
Posted by: taylork at March 02, 2012 01:41 PM (5wsU9

Bullshit. NEXT.

135

103

+1

But just like the manufactured outrage with Cain and every other candidate "our side" falls for this shit every time.  The bad thing is that the media knows that we will crucify our own if they raise enough hell.

136

Fuck you, Drew.  Do any of you stupid Beta Male Dickless Wonders ever listen to a word of Rush's show?  He has made her a joke.  It's the hopeless likes of you who will forward the narrative that the Democrat Media Complex wants you to forward.  And you stupid, spineless assholes do it every time.

Fuck you.

137 This woman's record is clear.  It's pitifully easy to attack her for what she is - she's the vaginal equivalent of the disabled-activists who look for restaurants to sue under ADA because their bathroom doors are half an inch too narrow.

She's an ambulance-chaser.  Call her out on her record.  Don't start throwing morality questions around.

138 If the left wants this girl and her needs as the poster child for "Healthcare" they are dumber than Pelosi looks.

139 You're upset at Rush about this?  She gets to bleat that she needs $1000 a year so she can fuck without consequence, Rush says "that's a lotta dick, you little slut".  And you get upset at Rush?

This mattress-back should be a target of our unrelenting ridicule.

140 >>We really need to decide what we fighting about in this election. Is it the economy and Obama's unprecedented power grabs or the sexual morals of America?



I'm having trouble paying for whores so I'm torn.

141

Sandra Fluke: Law Slut.

 

Coming to a theater near you soon.

142 > His flip flop on Romney from 4 years ago is especially irritating. It's easy to flip flop when the choice is McCain.

143 Anyway, I don't hate sluts. I hate cheap, grasping, lying sluts who despise me because I'm not giving them enough of my money. QEFD.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 02, 2012 01:42 PM (/kI1Q)

 

 

 

 

Exactly my point. I don't care who she screws or how many times, but I don't want to pay for it.

144

124
Meh.... you lost me at "contraception is costing me $3000.00 per year".
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She's a Lesbian so her contraceptive is female dating. That can rack up.

145 Callista Flockhart playing Sandra Fluke in "Anal McSqueal."

146 Yes, the Rosa Parks incident was contrived. It needed to be done, but it wasn't like Ms. Parks all the sudden decided to make to make a stand without any outside prompting and on the spur of the moment. Still, Ms Parks was a heck of a lot more admirable person than Fluke. Poor baby wants her birth control to be paid for by RC institutions?!; Awwwwwww. Yep, that's just like being forced to sit in the back of the bus. Some reactionary liberals would see it that way, I suppose.

147 ""Social con" does not equal "conservative"."
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Oh, yeah? So we're not conservatives anymore? Well I've got news for you, it wasn't the freaking social cons who fell for Obama's shtick in 2008, and it isn't the social cons who cave under pressure to liberals every time they push a little harder for tax increases.

A so-called "conservative" who cares only about his tax rate isn't much of a conservative at all, really.

148 This isn't surprising. This is the Marxist playbook - and there is no restraint on them. No matter what anyone says, this 30 year old communist dirtbag was going to be the poster child of the media complex for justifying outlawing Catholic thoughtcrimes. There isn't any reason to bitch at Rush - this was a done deal in this repulsive Stalinist douchebag show by the criminals in the media and Administration. It was the plan, always. This is the face of the enemy - and I use that word "enemy" with intent and precision. We have seven more shittastic months of this coming - violence by the Left is implied and expected too, you know. It always is with these vermin.

149

; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;" class="MsoNormal">It is absolutely breathtaking (albiet none surprising) that the Left has been able to so easily do this. Where the f*** are the Republicans to slam this shit back in the right direction...aimed at King Barry and his attack on religious freedom? Holy mother of G*d. The ease with which they can redirect the narrative is like taking candy from a baby. We are freaking doomed.

Posted by: Lady in Black at March 02, 2012 01:36 PM (F+Xfj)

 

If it was only the left picking up on the narrative, it would be viewed as such – just a partisan attack.  In order for the liberal spin to take hold, it takes a few idiots on the right to follow along.

 

(everyone turns and looks at Drew)

150 This is the ultimate in liberal gymnastics to avoid the real subject, which is the abrogation of the Constitution protection afforded religion in this country.


The fact that they can be so proud of a 30 year old slut who still hasn't figured out what she wants to be when she grows up makes it clear that the country is being dumbed down to the lowest common denominator.


The left is proud of this loose chicken, not ashamed as they should be that spreading her legs is the top news story. Time for some bishops to start explaining what a worthless little tramp she really is and making her a sideshow whore instead of a political triumph. Go after Obama, folks, not this little trollop.

151 Rush Limbaugh *makes* conservatives. He gets inattentive people to pay attention and notice what the liberals are doing. Before Rush Limbaugh, I didn't notice the liberal bias surrounding me. ------- ^This. Look, different strokes for different folks. Rush really isn't the problem, it's how our politicians (and candidates) play this that matter. For every Rush Limbaugh that we have, they have three loud mouthed assholes.

152 You're upset at Rush about this? She gets to bleat that she needs $1000 a year so she can fuck without consequence, Rush says "that's a lotta dick, you little slut". And you get upset at Rush?

Believe it or not, Rush makes mistakes sometimes. When he does, he should be called out on it like everyone else. He fell into the media's trap on this one and now Sandra Fluke is a bigger story than ever.

153 122 I didn't read the post.

Posted by: garrett at March 02, 2012 01:40 PM (FLLLv)

That's a nice tribute to Andrew, garrett.

154 Skin Fluke

Sandra in Her Vagina

(it's a lesbo thing)

155 So, Drew finally admits the country is morally bankrupt and we need to punt on all social issues. Truly morning in America.

156 I don't listen to Rush, but why the hate on him here?  He's doing his job and filling his role.  He is not running for office.  Yes, there should be talk of framing it in terms of first principles (government intrusion) but that is what our elected and party leaders are supposed to do.  Meanwhile, I bet Levin tonight (who I do listen to, because he's free ) will downplay the cultural issue and focus on the Constitutional issues.  Every talk show host has a different style/emphasis, and the respective audience expects such.

157 This woman's record is clear. It's pitifully easy to attack her for what she is - she's the vaginal equivalent of the disabled-activists who look for restaurants to sue under ADA because their bathroom doors are half an inch too narrow.

She's an ambulance-chaser. Call her out on her record. Don't start throwing morality questions around.


Posted by: JEM at March 02, 2012 01:42 PM



Exactly.  The driving force in this woman's "collegiate" experience has been targeted to overturning the contraceptive policies of Catholic institutions.  She is on record as saying the reason she went to Georgetown was to take on this cause. 

158 >>He has made her a joke.

She made herself a joke.  Rush just repeated it.

159 Oh, and somebody should ask her publicly how many abortions she has already had. Get her bony butt kicked out of Georgetown already. Put her back on the street turning tricks which is pretty much what she is so proud of. At least then she could afford a rubber or two.

160 I don't understand why you guys are so quick to turn on Rush - he's doing his job, and this kind of behavior is exactly what the Left wants. Can we please stop cannibalizing our own?

161
That can rack up.

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I see wut you did there......

162 >>>Good lord, Drew, grow a set of balls.

Pitching this as "It is morally wrong to have sex outside marriage therefore I shouldn't have to pay for someones contraception" IS A F*ING LOSER. F* I wouldn't even buy that. And it isn't even the Catholic stance in Humanae Vitae and what they are fighting for.

Pitching this as "It ain't my G*damn business what others do, but I consider it immoral and shouldn't have to pay for it" is a winner.

Rush more than implied something patently false. It hurts our position.


By the way the left's framing is a "Woman's health issue" our argument already rejects that framing.

163 She's a high falutin come-catcher that needs to advertise her services on Angie's List. Don't forget--Rush has a special antipathy for the so-called educated classes rivaling that of the AmishDude.

164

Oh, I heard about her before she was mentioned by Rush. In fact ABC carried on radio and tv ALL fucking day the day she wanted to "testify" in front of a congressional hearing for religious leaders on freedom of religion. The house wouldn't "LET HER" because it was a trained seal thing and she wasn't a religious leader. The orginal hearing happened to be all male so the Pelosi meme was that they were having a hearing on birth control and they wouldn't let a WOMAN talk. LEFTY LEFTY BLAH BLAH

 

Couple of days later Pelosi has her own PRETEND hearings where she has this slut show up and whine about "womens health" and the high price of fucking.

 

Couple of days later Rush says why do we have to pay for this slut's condoms?

 

All hell breaks loose

 

IT WAS PELOSI NOT RUSH AND ABC.

 

head pounding

165 She's full of shit on everything from her age to sex. I'm guessing that this cow hasn't spent $3 in the last 3 years on contraception. She's a radical lefty feminist who probably considers all sex (with men) rape. Like a liberals she's willing to lie through her teeth for the cause

166 Make the following deal with a Lieberal
"I'll agree with you _forcing_ employers to provide contraception when you agree to _force_ employers to buy their employees guns. Because guns are _actually_ in the Constitution."

It's not about sex, Drew.

167
Speaker John Boehner on Friday denounced radio host Rush Limbaugh’s “slut” remarks aimed at Georgetown University student Sandra Fluke, but the Ohio Republican also jabbed at Democrats who have been fundraising off the fracas. “The speaker obviously believes the use of those words was inappropriate, as is trying to raise money off the situation,” Boehner spokesman Michael Steel said in an e-mail Friday morning.

Carly Fiorina, the former HP CEO who ran for Senate in California in 2010 and now serves as Vice-Chairwoman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, became the first high profile Republican to come out against Rush Limbaugh’s sexist attacks against Georgetown Law student Sandra Fluke, condemning the radio host on CBS this morning. “That language is insulting, in my opinion. It’s incendiary and most of all, it’s a distraction. It’s a distraction from what are very real and important issues,” Fiorina said.



Our leadership.

168 Are you fuckers here retarded? Are you not capable of following two issues at once? Have you no spines? Frankly. this says more about YOUR mindset, and that of the GOP "leadership". You deserve this.

169 She's a Lesbian so her contraceptive is female dating.

I'm not sure why she needs contraception if she truly is a lesbian.  I'm not a woman, but I think I know that contraception is supposed to prevent a sperm and an egg from meeting.  If two women are going at it, I'm not so sure there's a sperm cell in that equation.  So why the need for $1000/year?  Are they fucking each other with semen encrusted dildos?

170 >>>I don't understand why you guys are so quick to turn on Rush - he's doing his job, and this kind of behavior is exactly what the Left wants.

I don't understand why just because he gets called out for doing something stupid means that we're "turing on him." Are we not allowed to criticize him now?

171 30 year old slut who still hasn't figured out what she wants to be when she grows up



She's made it perfectly clear what she wants to be when she grows up.  She wants to be Gloria Alred. Read the link at JammieWearingFool.

http://tinyurl.com/6pkwzch

172 You can't run it on jobs at this point, because the only people paying attention now are the highly informed, who know all the supposed Republican Jobs Bills in the House are replete with bogosity. The GOP is filling time between now and September, when with any luck, there'll be a six week perceived major scary slump followed recovery on the GOP's watch. They run a jobs jobs jobs message now, it's a trap, because the Dems still can make Bush to author of this economy.

173 She is a set-up. Someone got her in front of Congress to make ridiculous claims that they knew would be ridiculed, and were ready to make her the victim and the ridiculers the evil villians. We really need to get smarter with how we play the game and stop getting played ourselves.

174 "Social con" does not equal "conservative". *** I love this logic. As the left attempts to force churches to pay for contraception, we need cautionary warnings about those damn social conservatives, who are so dangerous all they do is make these things an issue.

175 It's a grave injustice to force all the guys this girl wouldn't glance at to have to pay for her sex expenses with her professors or whatever douche is worthy to her.  Imagine going through college without getting laid, knowing you're paying maybe for half of the birth control all the kids having fun are using (especially if it's 3k).  Maybe I'm bitter, but that's crap.  I don't want to work half the summer for her to have sex with someone else.

176 You know what, fuck this ho. Is there any fucking thing the typical leftist will take responsibility for?? They want everybody to hand them a pain free life. Boo fuckin hoo she has to pay for her own contraception. We all did for years. This is just more give me free shit by ass sucking leftists.

I'm not religious, I could give a shit. But if you ain't fucking to have a kid then its recreation, plain and simple. Pay for your own fucking fun like we all have to.

177 I didn't want to have anything to do with her decision making, but since, I am supposed to pay for it, I get to have a say.  If she doesn't like that, she can pay for her own contraception.  Better yet, repeal Obamacare, open interstate sale of insurance (one place where I'd support the commerce clause), and unhook health insurance from the employer.  The individual should make their own decisions on what policy they want.  Wouldn't it just give D.C. the vapors if they couldn't lead us around by the nose with this. 

178 >>>Pitching this as "It is morally wrong to have sex outside marriage therefore I shouldn't have to pay for someones contraception" IS A F*ING LOSER.

Rush *is* pitching this as "she's an Obama patsy assisting in his unprecidented power grab".  That, first and foremost, is the point he keeps making about this.

179
Seriously, I don't think we should be on this particular issue but we are so.....I really don't think that she is going to be come some liberal icon for more than a couple of days....do you really think the dems want this women (proven liar already) to be their standard bearer?

She is being used as part of a meme of "obamacare good....babies bad".  She may be mad at Rush, but she doesn't realize she is being pimped out like a corner hooker.

180 >>Don't forget--Rush has a special antipathy for the so-called educated classes rivaling that of the AmishDude.

My grandmother once told me if I didn't want people to think I was a cheap hussy (pardon her French), I shouldn't act like a cheap hussy.  She was an Iowa farmwife with a 10th-grade education. She was smarter than all these bleating credentialed scrunts hatin' on Rush.

181 I don't think the Democrats have the slightest clue how badly this plays in most of America. They think everyone is like them at a Manhattan cocktail party or Hollywood debauch. We're not. And its going to hurt them badly.
As of late it seems like the left is more and more disconnected with America. November 2010 caught a lot of them by surprise. They GENUINELY thought the Tea Party was a small group of GOP operatives and dying out radicals, not a huge grass roots movement.
Think about it. The press they read and the people they associate with deliberately avoid certain topics, news stories, and information. They simply do not get the data they need to accurately understand the world or their own neighbors. They aren't dumb, they're just deliberately keeping themselves ignorant.
Most of the topics we talk about like Fast & Furious, Solyndra, or Pigford they are either totally clueless about or only have the official party line of extremely limited, spun shreds of information. They just don't know.
That's why Olbermann really honestly thought Gingrich's crack about rapes at Occupy events was some hateful right wing smear, he honestly just had no clue about the crimes and horrors at those places. Because he's deliberately keeping himself out of the loop.

182

Now she has a tiny little taste of what Sarah Palin was subjected to.

 

Doesn't feel so good when you're the one being demonized, does it?

183

#172 Are we not allowed to criticize him now?

Posted by: taylork at March 02, 2012 01:47 PM (5wsU9)

No, you're not. 

184 The real question here is just who is doing something stupid.

185

Pitching this as "It ain't my G*damn business what others do, but I consider it immoral and shouldn't have to pay for it" is a winner.

Rush more than implied something patently false. It hurts our position.

 

Huh? which is it? No one esp Rush is dicussing morality. No one gives a shit about what she's doing only that we're paying for it.

 

What's not the Catholic stance in Humana Vitae?

186 I don't like lesbo pron. How much does she want to bend over a warm hood and sign a model release?  She has a face made to kill the missionary position.

187 Rush Limbaugh *makes* conservatives. He gets inattentive people to pay attention and notice what the liberals are doing. Before Rush Limbaugh, I didn't notice the liberal bias surrounding me.

Andrew Breitbart became a conservative whilst listening to talk radio. Who do you think he was listening to back then?

Rush Limbaugh is not the problem.

Posted by: Kensington at March 02, 2012 01:40 PM (/AHDz)

I disagree.  I think Rush has been overtaken by the new media and is gripping a bit about his future.  I no longer have the patience to sit through one of his monologues when he takes forever to get to the point when I can find it here complete with insightful comments to boot.  That's not to denigrate what he's done for decades but frankly sites like this are much more important to me now than he is.

188

taylork:

 

I am not following your logic.  What is wrong with calling out that a religious sponsored institution is being forced to fund the sexual habits of its students.  No one forced this woman to go to Georgetown.  Georgetown is being forced to fund her individual choices.  Where is Georgetown's choice?  Why is this a fight we don't want?  I have no problem with this woman doing whatever she wants, with whomever she wants, however she wants.  I just don't want to pay for it, and the Catholic Church should not be forced to violate its principles to pay for it. 

 

189 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 02, 2012 01:47 PM (kdS6q) I don't believe this.

190 I didn't want to have anything to do with her decision making, but since, I am supposed to pay for it, I get to have a say. yes yes YES! and my say is - permanent sterilization. THAT'S what I'm willing to pay for. enjoy!

191 Remember when the left used to want the Government to stay OUT OF people's bedrooms?

192 Mama: I read it. She is still confused. Badly. She refuses to get the facts straight, she thinks she is the story when she is just a slut, etc. She may THINK she is doing real work, but anyone could see that's a farce. Frankly, Gloria Alred isn't all that bright either, but she can whine with the best of them. Playing a perpetual teenager is not something one does when one grows up. This was my point, not that she doesn't think she has a point.

193 The sad thing is, despite all I've said about the left above, they're not the only ones. I see not a few libertarian types in here who are acting exactly the same way on this topic (and others involving social conservatism). They have a caricature in their heads and damn the facts, that's what they cling to.

194

I listened and I heard Rush make both arguments, a) the assault by Obama on religious conscience and b) she's a dirty, dirty whore.

One argument is useful.  The other is handing your enemies a stick to beat you with.  It's stupid and pointless.

195

  This innocent women who is concerned about women's hellth issues is being bombarded by the typical lying on the Repuli-Commie side. She was trying help other women and all you can do is make fun of hur. I hope Presdent Obama in his second term makes her Secratorny of Health and she does good things to help us liberated and women not dependent on predator men. Good for her strength and truthfullness to bring this problem to Presdent Obama and Micheale Obama.......

196 I'm a social conservative.  I attempt to live a moral life.  If you are an adult and you wish to do differently, that is certainly your choice.  But do not expect your choice to be subsidized by me.  Your sexual choices should in no way impact my wallet.

197 Re the pols who are "denouncing" Rush, I would think our betters in the moderate wing of the Party would be pleased at the opportunity that Rush has afforded them to seem all "pro woman" or whatever it is they think they need to seem to be in order to appeal to Indies. Have any of the candidates weighed in on this yet?

198 Drew, when was the "story" (by which I assume you mean the media narrative) ever about Obama's attack on religious freedom and and overreaching regulatory state? Never. From the beginning with the Stephanopoulos debate question this was an orchestrated setup to change the subject and frame the question the way the Dems wanted. Rush has pointed out the absurdity of a grown woman asking everyone else to subsidize her sex life. Maybe it will work, maybe it won't. But since when have we expected the MSM to cover the truth about a Dem administration? Or have you not noticed all the stories lately about our vigorous economic turnaround?

199 Well of course we  shouldn't talk about this. And of course we should castigate Rush for taking the piss to her this week. Good God people it's the 2nd of March. I'm sure this is going to be a burning issue when/if we get our nominee into the game. "This is not the field to die on". How about we die on every fuckin field out there? How about we DON"T accept their narrative every fuckin time they try to play this game? How about we punch back every damned time? Nahhh. not this time.

200 His flip flop on Romney from 4 years ago is especially irritating Huh? Wasn't that always Romney sucks less than McCain?

201 This was my point, not that she doesn't think she has a point.

Posted by: tcn at March 02, 2012 01:51 PM (WhSRj)

Thanks - sometimes I get carried away.    LOL

202 Who says attorneys are whores?

203
This whole brouhaha reminds me a an 80's song.... Stray Cat Strut

Black and orange stray cat sittin' on a fence
Ain't got enough dough to pay the rent
I'm flat broke but I don't care
I strut right by with my tail in the air
Stray cat strut I'm a ladies cat
I'm a feline casanova hey man that's that
Get a shoe thrown at me from a mean old man
Get my dinner from a garbage canThis'll be stuck in my head the rest of the day....

204 My grandmother once told me if I didn't want people to think I was a cheap hussy (pardon her French), I shouldn't act like a cheap hussy. She was an Iowa farmwife with a 10th-grade education. She was smarter than all these bleating credentialed scrunts hatin' on Rush.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 02, 2012 01:49 PM (/kI1Q)

And God bless her!

205 We really need to get smarter with how we play the game and stop getting played ourselves. Or let's just stop playing the Left's goddam game. Because we're the only ones on the field. The Left is in the stands watching us monkeys try to fuck a football.

206 >> @201 How about we die on every fuckin field out there? How about we DON"T accept their narrative every fuckin time they try to play this game? How about we punch back every damned time?





Yep. What would Breitbart do?

Go big or go home.

207 Social-conservatism is only one leg of the Republican Party, and does not paint the whole conservative picture.

Not sure why it's wrong to point this out. We still have the libertarian/economic wing, as well as hawks who don't give one fig about so-con initiatives.

You are 1/3 of the party. Deal with it. At least stick to issues that others can be passionate about, like abortion and rule of law.

208
Its just part of the long march, start out with paying for pills, move to paying for abortions, move to requiring abortions unless govt approved childbirth, its the left's own one child policy.  Its where they want to go....because they love control and they can't be having us breeders messing up their planned utopia.

209 The Left choreographed this whole thing in order to get certain people to respond. And here right on cue is Rush Limbaugh.

Yes, right on cue comes the Fox News protesters,"Coffee Party", Wisconsin protesters,Occupy Wall Street protesters,Sarah Fluke....It's almost as if Democrats bring nothing to the discussion, except a bunch of their fascist supporters to club into silence the opposition.

Death by a thousand cuts.We're letting Obama frame the discussion into women vs the insurance industry or women vs religious institution. Frankly, Republicans are never going to get the majority of women voters so stop the idiotic pandering. Just like black voters, stop pandering to a lost cause. 

210

Drew, I have to disagree with you turning the blame for this story on Rush.  Again, this isn't about morality.       This is about personal responsibility.

 

Rush      called this Fluke woman a slut and a whore because what she wants is for other people to pay so she can have sex.  That's what it is.  She wants to be able to have sex with whoever she wants on someone else's dime.  She wants to exchange someone else's money for her own sexual escapades.       How is that     any different    than an escort service?         The difference, of course,     is the ones paying her tab aren't the ones she's having sex with.  No, the ones paying her tab are the ones she chooses to verbally excoriate as misogynistic neanderthals     for questioning their responsibility for underwriting her libidinous lifestyle,    be they a religious organization that doesn't support contraception, or taxpayer dollars as allocated    thru Obamacare.

 

I say bring it on, Rush.    This thirty-something libertine feminista shouldn't get to come onto the public scene pretending to be some      oppressed little woman and then get to fade into the background.   Expose her for what she is:     an     up-and-coming      feminist     harridan.

211 Why doesn't Miss Fluke just put a donation jar beside her bed and let those that benifit the most pay for her birth control?

212 Anyone who thinks the "assault on conscience" argument is not just a loser but helpful to our enemies is either ignorant of the argument or deliberately disingenuous.
The founding fathers insisted on the wording of the 1st amendment SPECIFICALLY because of concerns about violating conscience, which they felt was one of the greatest evils man could perpetrate on each other.

213 Maybe she should have gone to Northwestern and taken a class with the f--k-saw professor instead.

214 Who says attorneys are whores?

Posted by: Cricket at March 02, 2012 01:53 PM (DrC22)

 

Everybody who has met one?

215

I posted this on an earlier thread, but I feel the need to re-post it here - I went extra heavy on the snark:

 
Pay to Play (or, No, I Don't Want to Subsidize Your Sex Life)

http://wp.me/p1ipEz-1kp


You want to be able to have consequence-free sex, and you want ME to pay for it with higher insurance rates? OK, fine – I’ll make you a deal:

 
IÂ’ll pay for your drunken weekends with whichever guy straps on the beer goggles at last call, but in return I expect you to keep your piehole shut when you have to pay higher insurance rates for MY lifestyle choices.

And boy, howdy, am I going to stick it to you BUT GOOD.

 
You just THINK youÂ’ve been screwed by all of those Frat Boys, but it is nothing compared to the rogering you are going to get from me.

 
I am going to start living a life of indulgent luxury – I’m going to plop my fat ass on my couch and watch television all day long – no exercise for me. I’m going to eat the fattiest, greasiest foods that I can find – there isn’t going to be a vegetable in sight. I don’t drink, smoke, or use drugs, but I am thinking about taking them up – just so I can run up your insurance premiums.

 
You see Ms. Fluke, you have as much as admitted that no one has to take personal responsibility for their actions. No, you sat in front of a national audience and said that each of us has to pay for whatever other people in the rest of the country decide they want to do.

 
And if you donÂ’t want them telling you what you can or cannot do with YOUR body, then you sure as heck donÂ’t get to tell them what they can or cannot do with theirs.

There's more (with pictures!) at the link in my name.

216 Why has nobody even discussed the fact that pregnancy is NOT A DISEASE THAT NEEDS TREATMENT!!!!? Flatten these death merchants in their tracks. Most ADULTS know that having a baby is a blessed event, not a disease that must be fought by socialist "healthcare."

217

Fluke, a third-year law student, testified about GeorgetownÂ’s policy

This tells you all you need to know about Georgetown and Lawn School in general.  What a joke.  Georgetown should have its accreditation yanked immediately, seeing that it likes to populate its lawn school with retards like this.

Of course, this is all nothing new, as Barky is damn good evidence that Harvard should have lost its accreditation and been burnt to the ground decades ago.  What a total joke.

218 taylork:

I am not following your logic. What is wrong with calling out that a religious sponsoredinstitution is being forced to fund the sexual habits of its students. No one forced this woman to go to Georgetown. Georgetown is being forced to fund her individual choices. Where is Georgetown's choice? Why is this a fight we don't want? I have no problem with this woman doing whatever she wants, with whomever she wants, however she wants. I just don't want to pay for it, and the Catholic Church should not be forced to violate its principles to pay for it.

I agree with all that. What I disagree with is giving this scrunt additional time in the media spotlight. Rush could have criticized her without ringing the feminzasi bells by calling her a slut and a prostitute. Now instead of talking about whether or not it's appropriate to subsidize a lifestyle you don't agree wiht, we're talking about whether or not it was appropriate for Rush to call somebody a slut.

219 This election is about how the gubbimint  needs to supply me with free Val-U-Rite whenever I want it.  Because it's a mental health issue and it's only fair that I get it for free. 

220 Meanwhile... The cocksucking leftist Rolling Stone has a new piece about Andrew Breitbart called "Death of a Douche." Where's the outrage??? Where's your outrage for that shit?

221 "Social-conservatism is only one leg of the Republican Party, and does not paint the whole conservative picture.
Not sure why it's wrong to point this out."
Passive aggressive trash. Nobody objects to having differences of opinions, they object to being told not just to shut up but that you're RUINING EVERYTHING by disagreeing with social "moderates."

222 This reminds me of Valery Plame screaming she was being silenced while posing for the cover of Vanity Fair and doing interviews on tv 5 times a day.

223 @189 I think that just means you have graduated from the School of Conservative Studies or whatever the heck calls his program. Other people still want to attend his "university." I don't listen to Rush very often, I'm just not a big talk radio listener in general, but to me he serves a valuable role. And, moreover, there's a market for it, so good for him. It's not Rush's job to serve the Republican Party, particularly when that party is led by so many idiots who don't give a rat's ass about the people who elected them as much as they care about keeping their power and perqs.

224 Uhm, I guess folks aren't aware that Mary Clogenstein is a long-time satirical sock?  I thought everyone knew.

And having listened to Rush when this all started, and while it is going on, I can only say many of you are falling for the Leftist trap.  This has always been bullshit testimony, and Rush called her on it.  The Left is doing what they always do, try to make it about something it is not.

You all want our side to fight. Until, the fight becomes uncomfortable, I guess.

225 Ok I don't totally mean that. You can talk abou the others, just don't insist they be priority #1.

226

Did everyone miss the part where nobody (Rush included) gave a shit about this woman's sexual practices until she sat down in front of Congress and demanded that other people pay for them? 

 

Stop complaining that this gives the left a reason to talk about contraceptives, they'll do that no matter what else is said because it's all they have to fall back on.  If these necessary moderates and independents have the brains that we assume they do, it'll be easy enough to see that this is the leftist brand of forcing social issues down everyone's throats.   Do we really want to waste our time with the people who can't understand that simple equation?

227

Now instead of talking about whether or not it's appropriate to subsidize a lifestyle you don't agree wiht, we're talking about whether or not it was appropriate for Rush to call somebody a slut.

 

Posted by: taylork at March 02, 2012 01:55 PM (5wsU9)

 

Then don't let yourself be pulled into that conversation.  It's that simple.  "You think it was okay for Rush to call this girl a slut?  Is that what you're saying?"

 

"I'm saying there's a name for people who get paid for sex, and I don't appreciate being forced into becoming this girl's     unwilling     john."

228 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 02, 2012 01:47 PM (kdS6q)


--Boehner and Fiorina, punching down.



Thanks for knowing thine enemies, dumbasses.

229 Meanwhile...

The cocksucking leftist Rolling Stone has a new piece about Andrew Breitbart called "Death of a Douche."

Where's the outrage???

Where's your outrage for that shit?

In a different thread.

230 I actually think this is a loser for the dems. As soon as she said it costs her $1000 a year then she becomes a joke and the conversation is about her lying, et al.

231 Passive aggressive trash. Nobody objects to having differences of opinions, they object to being told not just to shut up but that you're RUINING EVERYTHING by disagreeing with social "moderates."

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 02, 2012 01:55 PM (r4wIV)

It is repeatedly brought up when some so-con whines that others say talking about sodomy is a losing issue. Calling her a slut might be funny, might be true, but it's not a winner.

It's a fraction of a single party. Unless you can manage to not annoy the other 2/3 of the party, it will probably be a losing issue still, at least in the general.

232

The life cycle of the fluke.

http://tinyurl.com/889nrbc

 

233

I never liked Rush's "operation chaos." It was decpetive. It's the left's job to be deceptive. Not ours.

Rush is often "right on" but he is also often short-sided in his approach. It may feel good coming out, but it ends up as a gift to the left wing machine.

234 Sandra, dear:  rubbers aren't healthcare, they're insurance - possibly valued more highly by your partner than you.

235 That said, I think rights of the unborn is a great so-con issue, because it correlates 100% with the RIGHTS of people. As Luap Nor said: There can be no liberty without life.

At least prioritize.

236 >>>Rush *is* pitching this as "she's an Obama patsy assisting in his unprecidented power grab". That, first and foremost

That's true. But he walked into the trap of maligning this girl for her sexual habits, which is a loser, and then drawing a parallel to a prostitute, which is a huge huge loser. Even if you only do it once.

His big mistake. And more than just costing us pubic opinion on the issue it is false.

All of you who want to call her a "whore" show me proof that she has entered into a commercial agreement werein she agrees to provide specific sexual favors to an individual or group of  individuals in exchange for something of value, or you are conflating whore to use it as a cheap insult. Which is not helpful.

Calling her a "slut" additionally is a matter of personal opinion and non-relevant to the actual issue at hand.

237 Then don't let yourself be pulled into that conversation. It's that simple. "You think it was okay for Rush to call this girl a slut? Is that what you're saying?"

It not me that's being pulled into. The average independent doesn't follow politics that closely. So we have a finite amount of things we can throw at them to make them pay attention to the real issue. Rush calling someone a slut and the media having an orgy about is a distraction.

238

Rush Limbaugh gets higher ratings and more money if Obama is reelected.

 

That being said, I agree with him 1000%.  This Fluke bitch wanted the spotlight, well she gets what comes with it now.  And nothing beats an aggrieved feminist for sheer hilarity.    It's just too bad she won't have the balls to face a real conservative interviewer who would ask her just what Rush said that was wrong. 

 

And BTW, everyone should read the JWF article linked in the sidebar.  This woman is 30 years old, a professional student and professional feminist.  She is getting EXACTLY what she deserves.

239

One more thing - until Ms. Fluke has popped out AT LEAST 3 of her own spawn, as far as I'm concerned she hasn't contributed her "fair share" to society.

 

All of these social programs that she is such a champion of aren't free - they are paid for with taxpayer dollars.

 

And those taxpayers don't just magically appear - they have to be MADE.

 

It takes roughly 20 years before those spawn can become taxpayers, so she and her birth-control-loving buddies had better get to work.

 

I'm not getting any younger.....

240 Drew,

I'm sorry, but you are pathetic. In the wake of Andrew Breibart's death you do exactly what he dedicated his life to fighting. Instead of making a principled argument for or against what Limbaugh actually said, you accept the liberal spin and attack our own side.

When will the right figure out the accepting the left's framing of issues is a no-win proposition. Good lord, Drew, grow a set of balls.

Posted by: jwest at March 02, 2012 01:35 PM (FdndL)

 

Drew isn't accepting the liberal spin. He's criticising the willingness of some on the right to allow the Left to sidetrack us into social issues in an election year where everything hinges on making Obama's reelection a referendum on his dismal record. In one of Breitbart's last conversations, he related his frustrations at the success of the liberal media to reframe the issues  and steer the national conversation so that we're talking about contraceptives and not about substantive economic issues--which the Left emphatically cannot afford to talk about. In order to generate controversy and garner advertising dollars, Limbaugh feeds into it deliberately.

Don't you see? The Left wants a culture war this election year. They want to talk about anything but the disastrous impact their policies are making on the economy and on our standing in world affairs. So of course the Left prefers a Santorum candidacy. Of course the Left wants to talk about free contraceptives for everybody.

Lastly, Rush Limbaugh is a billion-dollar entertainer whose schtick happens to be politics. I don't think much of the man but know there are many out there who admire and respect him. Okay, you admire and respect him for what, exactly? Limbaugh preaches to the choir on a daily basis and is paid handsomely for doing it. Good for him. But as a serious, persuasive voice in the conservative movement? Please. Telling someone what they want to hear is no hard trick. Getting undecided or even hostile people to come over to your side by force of ideas and power of logic, on the other hand, is the most difficult trick of all, and that isn't what he does. Screw Rush Limbaugh.

241

We continue to operate under the premise that any time there is a discussion about sex, the left is winning.  That is not the case.  Regardless of whether you agree with what Rush said, his reasons for saying it, or whether it serves any strategic purpose, he has been able to expand the discussion from religious liberties to why are law school students pleading poverty and asking us to buy their birth control.  This is a winning issue for the right.  We should recognize that.  No one on the right is asking for contraceptions to be banned.  Yes, that is what the left is saying, but that message is not getting through.  Its one thing to say that Obama is spending freely and expanding his power beyond belief.  It is another to have such a topical example that grabs peoples interest.  Let the left make Sandra Fluke their posterchild for this issue.  She looks like a fool.  I just hope we have a candidate who is willing to ask Obama, why the federal government should ask the taxpayers to pay for the sexual activities of others. 

242

Let's not forget that there's a portion of the electorate out there who listen to Rush but need metaphors that they can understand to be able to really digest his meaning.   These are the people who would say, "Gosh, it really isn't fair for catholic institutions not to pay for birth control for their employees."   Then along comes Rush and lays it out for them:  "We're paying for this girl to have sex.   Women who get paid for sex are whores.       Why are these places being asked to pay for a whore's lifestyle?"  

 

 

Believe it or not, that WILL resonate with people. 

243 We can sit here every dang day and moan and piss about the leftists taking our words and twisting them and making them the issue instead of the REAL issue blah blah blah ad nauseum

Don't you get it?  They are always going to do this.  Always.  It doesn't matter.  This is what they do. 

If we continue to wring our hands and say "oo ooo ooooo he shouldn't have said this, he shouldn't have said that because now look at what they are gonna do" ....

.... Well then you are just going to be wringing your hands 24/7 because this is what they do.

Suck it up and learn not to give a rat's patoot.  When are we going to learn not to assassinate our own ?  When are we going to stop trying to out-dance them on every tune they call?

244 I like Rush, stopped listening to him and come here less frequently because this shit is downright depressing nonstop. Obama and his faggot friends to top it all of can go around and fucking LIE, claim republicans want to ban contraceptives, and meanwhile fast and furious which killed over 200 people gets nofucking coverage at all. We literally have propaganda as our news in this country. My inner pessimist doesn't see that changing, and sees Obama basically able to piss on the country and have the media cover for him. So what's the use? I mean seriously, if one side can not only make up straw men, but then have the media ask the question of republicans like they seriously have the straw mans opinion, wtf is the point? This shit was fucking made up at the white house and fed to "journalists".

245 I think again this is why having Newt as a candidate seems to be the only choice at this point.

He rejects the premises, then reroutes and attacks. He doesn't get suckered like Santorum. He doesn't just sort of stumble around for a conservative red meat response. He REJECTS it.

246

But the bottom line:

Personal attacks from a private citizen to another private citizne are considered bad and newsworthy from the obviously pro-Obama media. (Rush to Fluke)

But personal attcks from the Carney-Obama White House against private citizens (Koch brothers et al) are A-OK.  check.

 

247 The President is calling Fluke but word is she's booked.

248 Hopefully she wont develop a mas sirve DVT from her posterior tibial vein up to her supra renal cava. Good thing that oral contraceptives are so safe.

249 #213

If you'd seen her photo, you'd know that's not a practical solution.

250 And don't doubt that Obama will overplay this just like he has overplayed everything.  As soon as the next crappy economic numbers come out or some more U.S. soldiers get killed he'll have to stop talking about birth control.

251 235 The life cycle of the fluke.
http://tinyurl.com/889nrbc

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at March 02, 2012 01:59 PM (w41GQ)

Can we excrete her now?

252

In a related story, the Navy has just christened its new aircraft carrier the USS Sandra Fluke.

253 Calling this woman a slut is a mistake, because it gives the MSM an easy narrative to follow--mean conservatives, instead of her demonstrably ludicrous claims. Stay on target, people.

254

 

Fluke? ....Flukes? .....Flukes are parasites through much of their life cycle.

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There are liver flukes, intestinal flukes, blood flukes and lung flukes.

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The question is.....which kind of flucking fluke is Ms. Fuck? ....Er, Ms. Fluke, that is.

 

 

255 She's 30 years old and a third year law student. Someone should ask her, if she can't afford contraception how in the hell can she afford Georgetown Law School. Where's the money coming from for her to sit in law school and look to start trouble? Someone ought to find out who her puppet master is

256 Heh. Rush is on a roll. It's about the best 9 plus hours of radio I've listened to in a while. You Romney supporters would be adorable if you weren't so narrow-minded. Lighten the eff up! Geez.

257 WTF RUSH? Dude... I used to listen to you, man.

258

Taylork in 220

 

Ok  -  I can't really argue with you that we can probably present our case in a little more appealing manner (though truthfully, Rush is an entertainer) -- but I don't think this is fight to run from.

 

On a side note (and I know this is a rhetorical question), how come that nimrod Ed Schultz can never be hauled out as the official spokeman for all things liberal?  That guy says a millions stupid things a day. 

 

259 Good for Rush.  The Bolsheviks and the Nazis made the "free love" meme a key component in their propaganda.  Why should Barry ignore the appeal of value-free, unlimited sex on someone else's dime?

Speaking of "dimes".  HotAir has a link to HHS chieftress Sebeleius' stunning remarks yesterday LINK:  preview.tinyurl.com/89zbt6h      So "free sex" merges with economic liberty, to wit:

Excerpt:

"Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius told a House panel Thursday that a reduction in the number of human beings born in the United States will compensate employers and insurers for the cost of complying with  the new HHS mandate that will require all health-care plans to cover sterilizations and all FDA-approved contraceptives, including those that cause abortions."

260 In fairness, Fluke is just trying to stimulate the economy, $1,000 at a time.

261 I don't understand why just because he gets called out for doing something stupid means that we're "turing on him." Are we not allowed to criticize him now?

Posted by: taylork at March 02, 2012 01:47 PM (5wsU9)

I've ended up listening to Rush a lot more in the last few weeks than I have in the last 4 years, and I haven't been all that impressed.

He's gotten to be rather blowhardy and seems to spend most of his show congratulating himself and repeating the same things over and over. And he seems to make arguments for conservatism primary by repeated assertion rather than with logic and evidence. And a lot of times I think he merely flatters his audience instead of addressing tough subjects.

Maybe it's me who's changed but I think today's Rush is not the same as the Rush of yore.

262 "Seems only Obama and Limbaugh benefit from that. Funny how that works out, huh?"

Limbaugh has bigger audience numbers when there's a liberal in the White House. He's an entertainer, essentially, with his own agenda. Never forget that.

As I said yesterday, it's insane to be actively collaborating with the liberals in their determined attempts to change the subject away from King Putt's economic ineptitude.

The liberals won in '92 on a simple message:

"IT'S THE ECONOMY, STUPID!"

The absolutely identical message has to be seized upon by the right for this year. If we are crazy enough to run on this contraception business, we deserve our loss.

263

@243 - the left wants a culture war, let's give it to them.  The right wins on culture war issues.  Gun control was a culture war issue.  The right destroyed the left on that.  We should make the economic case for conservative policies and removing Obama, but we should not run away from social issues, when there is little proof that they are losing issues, and lots of proof they are winning isssues.  This contraception issue perfectly ties both together.  It perfectly illusrates the expansive power of the federal government through Obamacare, with the silly social idea that the taxpayers should pay for contraceptions.

264 Poor Flukey. Wants to be a slut at tax payer expense. I think it's funny that Obama  is  going to  rescue  her from the  big  meanies  who  want  to deprive her  of  FREE  contraception. She looks like she can afford it. But no she can't! We  must  fund  free contraception  with tax dollars - it's for the common good.

265

That's true. But he walked into the trap of maligning this girl for her sexual habits, which is a loser, and then drawing a parallel to a prostitute, which is a huge huge loser. Even if you only do it once.

No, he's maligning the idea that she wants other people to pay for her habits, which would not be discussed all over the country had she not sat down in front of a Congressional committee and demanded that Congress rape our wallets to cover the bill.  There's no point in getting squishy over the fact that the media lies about it, because that's what the media does.  A big reason why they get away with these narratives is because we throw our hands up and run away screaming when they start to do it, out of some misguided idea that we can get them to somehow not lie.

266

#258 Not only is she 30 years old, but apparently she told people she wanted to go to Georgetown Law School SPECIFICALLY so she could challenge its policy on not paying for contraceptives for students.  She is President of something called Law Students for Reproductive Justice.  I'm guessing this is a group set up just to challenge policies of Christian-oriented colleges.

267 Sandra Fluke should change her name to Sandra Skank.  Her parents must be so proud ...

268 Sorry guys but most of the nation is not pro-indiscriminate fucking of strangers. A lot of you are but you're on a windy street corner with a bunch of other people of questionable hygeine.

269 It's not Rush's job to serve the Republican Party, particularly when that party is led by so many idiots who don't give a rat's ass about the people who elected them as much as they care about keeping their power and perqs.

Posted by: Y-not at March 02, 2012 01:56 PM (5H6zj)

I agree with this 100% and feel that this is one of the more useful things that he continues to do.  And thanks for the rest of the response.

270 The Republi-Perverts should be invovled with what a Woman does with her body...Especially that womanizing fat slob Limbaughal !!!!!!

271

I keep having this vision of Breitbart dressed as Patton, bitch slapping Drew as he wimpers about something like this.

 

Later, Breitbart would stand above a conservative gathering saying: 

 

“I can assure you that I had no intention of being either harsh or cruel in my treatment of the... blogger in question. My sole purpose was to try to restore in him some sense of appreciation of his obligations as a man and as a conservative. "If one could shame a pussy," I felt, "one might help him to regain his self-respect." This was on my mind.”

272 256 Calling this woman a slut is a mistake, because it gives the MSM an easy narrative to follow--mean conservatives, instead of her demonstrably ludicrous claims. Stay on target, people.

Posted by: nickless at March 02, 2012 02:04 PM (MMC8r)

 

The media will ALWAYS make that the narrative.  Always.  It doesn't matter what the hell we say. 

 

If we      let the media reaction     pre-determine     our     own actions, then      we'll       spend    our     entire lives       frozen in mid-step, like Han Solo in carbonite.     The thing to do is to say this stuff, stand by it, and,      when questioned, stay on message.  It sucks and the media will sabotage it at every turn, but that's what    needs to happen.

273 "Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius told a House panel Thursday that a reduction in the number of human beings born in the United States will compensate employers and insurers for the cost of complying with the new HHS mandate that will require all health-care plans to cover sterilizations and all FDA-approved contraceptives, including those that cause abortions."



Then let them get on with it, and decrease the surplus population.

274

to allow the Left to sidetrack us into social issues in an election year where everything hinges on making Obama's reelection a referendum on his dismal record

 

there is time enough for both. The base cares about this. There is some "georgetown law student" hoity toity SLUT out there wantin her free wheelin sex. That resonates with a certain portion of the electorate. We on the other hand know what is happening here with the distraction. No reason to NOT go after them on each side. 
We can be both.

275 Drew the media story has never been about Obama violating people's rights, it's been conservatives want to take away your birth control. The Narrarive hasn't changed.

276 @253.  Right on.  This is an issue that Clinton could easily have spun to his advantage.  Let's stop pretending that Obama is this great politician.  He is not.  Even with the cover the media provides him, he finds a way to step in it evertime. 

277 You know I had a reply for the bullshit @ 265 but Pixi rejected it. Fuck it. And your full of shit torquewrench.

278 The media will ALWAYS make that the narrative. Always. It doesn't matter what the hell we say.

Ifwe let the media reaction pre-determine our own actions, then we'll spend our entire lives frozen in mid-step, like Han Solo in carbonite. The thing to do is to say this stuff, stand by it, and, when questioned, stay on message. It sucks and the media will sabotage it at every turn, but that's what needs to happen.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at March 02, 2012 02:10 PM (4df7R)

Exactly.

279

Calling this woman a slut is a mistake, because it gives the MSM an easy narrative to follow--mean conservatives, instead of her demonstrably ludicrous claims. Stay on target, people.

Posted by: nickless at March 02, 2012 02:04 PM (MMC8r)

You're right.  She's more of a skank than a slut.  Sluts pay for their own rubbers.  Skanks try to bum them from strangers.

280

258

" She's 30 years old and a third year law student. Someone should ask her, if she can't afford contraception how in the hell can she afford Georgetown Law School. Where's the money coming from for her to sit in law school and look to start trouble? Someone ought to find out who her puppet master is."

 

This.

281

She's a student.....and she's paying that much to buy condoms?

Isn't she supposed to be craming for exams, or something?

 

Oh....wait a minute....

282 >>>Lighten the eff up! Geez.


The way this issue was offered up; The Catholic Church should be forced to pay for Contraception which they morally object to for religious reasons, was a guaranteed WIN! for our side; until we mangled it into

"Woman who have sex are BAD people"


Know the issue. The Church doesn't care if it's a woman, a man, a pill, a condom, married, or un-married, twice a day, or once a year, they oppose using artificial contraception. The sexual habits of any particular woman is immaterial to that stance, and her personal choice and responsibility.

Yet we voluntarily take that win, and mutate it into an argument we can't win.

283 This may be the first time in history where both men and women will be able to agree that this skank is a slut...

284 >>One more thing - until Ms. Fluke has popped out AT LEAST 3 of her own spawn, as far as I'm concerned she hasn't contributed her "fair share" to society.

Oh, good. It's been a whole week since the last time someone told me I was a selfish free-loading piece of shit for not whelping fatherless brats into the world.

I pay more income taxes than someone who has the same income but gets to deduct three kids, their tuitions, their medical expenses, etc. Don't ever fucking tell me I'm not contributing my fair share

285

286

I, for one, hope the Dems and the left trot out more people like Fluke who just look stupid.

287

Been a little behind in this issue, but hereÂ’s what I gather:

So a 23-year-old “co-ed” — errrrrr, 30-year-old liberal activist — knew of Georgetown’s policy rejecting socialized contraception (making the rest of the student body of the Catholic school pay — through higher student fees — for her birth-control, which is against the Catholic doctrine). Rather than simply going to another school, she set about undermining Georgetown so that it conformed to her sensibilities and benefited her pocketbook.

So when the Democrats sought to expand the scope of her intolerance of Catholic doctrine to the entire federal government, she became their poster child — errrrrrr, 30-year-old woman — as someone who can afford to go to Georgetown Law and live in Washington (and probably have an iPhone and a iPad2 with unlimited data plans and fabulous clothes and shoes) but cannot afford the thousands and thousands of dollars of (presumably gold-plated) birth-control pills she desires.

All so the media can run with: Republicans Hate Women! again?

Hmmm. Well, IÂ’ll give them this: IÂ’m pretty sure I would hate this freeloading rabble-rouser Fluke.

288 And hey!   Here's a question for the vaunted leftist elites.    I thought being called a    "slut" was a badge of honor now?   Or were all those Slut Walks last year just a chance for a bunch of homely young women with poor impulse control    to get together and flaunt their flabby bodies in the hopes that some misguided soul would actually whistle appreciatively, at which point they could pounce on him (or her) as a dirty pervert?

289 "The media will ALWAYS make that the narrative. Always. It doesn't matter what the hell we say" This is precisely what is going on. There is no "trigger", there were a dozen they had ready. This is a planned false show trial to enable their oppression of faith. Period. Stop a second. Think. We have an Administration which is attempting to effectively outlaw religious institutions in this country. This isn't fucking politics, people. This is Tyranny. Slavery. Oppression. This. Is. EVIL. Cut the shit about politically blah blah crap. It is secondary - and we cannot change the fact that the LEFT has the Institutions and will do everything to marginalize us until they. can. kill. us. WAKE UP.

290

264....Maybe it's me who's changed but I think today's Rush is not the same as the Rush of yore.

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Nah, Maetenloch....it's not just you. .....Rush has mellowed and changed gradually over the years.

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I remember back in the early 90's, when he was doing edgy stuff like "America Held Hostage!" [by the Clintons] .....and he would do a daily count of how many days of "Occupation" that the white house had been held. ....That was when he had that tv show + his radio show.

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It's like Rush tempers himself now, and stretches out each thing to fill up more airtime over more days.

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But it's not necessarily a bad thing.....Rush still performs a valuable service for us all, imo. .....There are younger, edge-ier, folks out there to throw the hand grenades now.

291 Oops...
Anyway, if we're all gonna end up paying for it, does that mean she is required to take our booty calls?
I mean, I'd hit it, after a few drinks.

292

265,

 

This issue has absolutely everything to do with the economic and personal liberty messages, and there's no reason in the world not to combine them.  It goes a little something like this:

"Why, in a time of spiking gas prices and high unemployment, is the SCOAMF and other elected members of his party entertaining the idea of forcing taxpayers to subsidize the private lives of others who are unwilling to pay for their own choices?" 

"Why are they entertaining the pet cause of a dipshit feminist activist when there is so much more that is worthy of the government's time?"

Change the wording up, and there's your message.

293 For a liberal, any criticism is "censorship." "Free speech" to a liberal means lack of opposition. There is no rational way in which criticism of this woman is "silencing" her. It's a correction. Her facts are wrong. Her demands are misleading. But instead of "correcting the correction," proving her "facts" are correct and her demand for subsidy is reasonable, she cries "censorship!" Because she's a liberal. And they lie about everything.

294 This has probably been mentioned at some point in the Moron Express, but a fluke is a parasitic tapeworm; a flatworm like Dear Leader is thought to have obtained eating raw things in Hawaii.

In my professional opinion, and remembering the word from zoology or some other ology class, the difference in Ms Fluke not being a tapeworm is this:

"Flukes (trematoda) have a gut with a mouth on one end and an anus on the other."

At any rate, when I heard her name I thought of a parasite and see she is very close to the mark.

295 "Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius told a House panel Thursday that a reduction in the number of human beings born in the United States will compensate employers and insurers for the cost of complying with the new HHS mandate that will require all health-care plans to cover sterilizations and all FDA-approved contraceptives, including those that cause abortions."




Did she also make the argument that Medicare and Social Security and every other social program will go broke because there won't be enough young people to pay for the old people?

296 Yeah, Rush totally screwed this one up. Before he made his comments the media was pounding Obama for violating fundamental rights guaranteed in the Constitution and there was no mention that Republicans wanted to take away your birth control.

297 Also, we're talking about it because the left and the MSM (BIRM) *want* to talk about it, and therefore will not stop talking about it. As long as we're captive to that near-monopoly, they *will* set the conversation. Sucks, but we don't have a plan for breaking that grip.

298

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at March 02, 2012 01:37 PM (HmCnI)

No Reproductive Justice, No Piece.

299 The issue is:  Sandra and her leftist twits want to screw whoever, whenever and wherever they want but more importantly, they want to screw the taxpayers, their neighbors and some 70 year old woman 1000 miles away by making them pay for the twit's birth control.  There's a whole lot of screwing going on but most of us aren't getting any benefit from it.

300 If only the GOP was capable of re-framing issues like this... SCOAMF and his minions are worthless cretins, but credit where it's due- they can spin the hell out of things and are spectacular at getting their MFM bitches to jump. Wouldn't it be nice if there were a principled conservative out there who was capable of combating the ignorance and stupidity of the left with actual facts presented in a reasoned and headline grabbing way? Alas... this person died yesterday. So I guess we're stuck with Boehner compromising 'for the greater good', Romney avoiding "setting his hair on fire" in favor of 69 point plans that are devoid of substance, moral 'I told you so's" from Santorum, and Newt digging into moon base dumpsters in order to find more banana peels to fling at opponents and try to paper over his own failings. This is a simple issue: 1. NO ONE is trying to ban birth control 2. There is no healthcare/ lifestyle related product more affordable & accessible than contraceptive medications and products- show me ONE person in the US that cannot get some for of birth control for free or affordably and anything more readily accessible to anyone in any age group. 3. What I earned/ produce is mine- regardless of my income level. It is also my choice about what I do with what is mine, regardless of income level. If I make a dollar from pan-handling, I can by a shot of Val-U-Rite, a condom, or something off the McD's dollar menu. I can choose to give my dollar to someone hungrier than me IF I WANT TO. I can choose to save the dollar to invest and pair it with more labor and dollars to product greater value. If you take my dollar it's theft. If you tell me what to do with my dollar, it's tyranny. If you force me to buy something for someone else, in spite of my needs or wants, it's cause for revolution. 4. The ONLY people talking about limiting choice or accessibility of anything (that cannot be viewed as murder) are Obama and his ilk. 5. The cost of everyone's free shit is ultimately borne by those who can least afford it. 6. Before anyone give advice on what anyone else should invest in, they must show a verifiable track record of sound prior investments, made with their own money 7. Prior to representing anyone in government, it is necessary that you have proven that you can support yourself through your own labor. (i.e., no more people in elected office who have never had a full time job)

301

1) She lied about the costs being incurred. Per her claim they would have to having sex 3 times a day every day of the year.

2) Who the heck is she to demand others pay for their birth control?

 

302 I don't care at all about social issues, but that dopey Georgetown chick deserved to be mocked.

303

 

; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;" class="MsoNormal">Getting undecided or even hostile people to come over to your side by force of ideas and power of logic, on the other hand, is the most difficult trick of all, and that isn't what he does. Screw Rush Limbaugh.

Posted by: troyriser at March 02, 2012 02:01 PM (vtiE6)

 

IÂ’m convinced you have just landed on this planet.  Welcome to Earth.

 

May I suggest that until you familiarize yourself with some of our history and culture that you refrain from making any statements that would identify you as an alien. 

304 Put on some pants Rush, you're scaring the cats...and the "Independents", too, apparently.

305 My father and grandfather used to say "When you can support yourself, then you can make your own decisions." Too bad that no one in government and no one under 30 grew up with people like my father and grandfather. I am sick and tired of supporting all these worthless scumbags and funding their idiocy.

306 Okay when did a woman having sex without being married become the same thing as being a 'slut' and a 'whore'?

Because in my mind they're not.

307 She deserves to be mocked. Fuck Sandra Fluke. Obviously a lot of dudes have.

308

So because Democrats twist shit to make their argument, we're not supposed to say stuff in the first place? Have I got that right, Drew?

 

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Glad you understand! Cower in fear of the ability of the MSM to twist the narrative to fit its goals. It's exactly what Breitbart would have wanted you to do!

309

Change the wording up, and there's your message.

 

Posted by: I Aim to Misbehave at March 02, 2012 02:17 PM (VmiAy)

 

THIS.  A thousand times this!   There's no reason why every single so-called "social" argument that keeps being raised by the left    during this election cycle CAN'T be turned back to    the economy.

 

Catholic institutions paying for contraception:   This is a clear violation of the first amendment in that it abridges a religion's right to free exercise.   This will lead to the inevitable closure of many Catholic instituions, including hospitals, nursing homes, and charity organizations.  This in turn will put an even greater strain on public institutions, which will require exorbitant tax hikes to pay for the added demand.

 

Taxpayers paying for contraception:   If there is enough money in the coffers to pay for this woman's $1,000 per annum contraceptive costs, why are we slicing the military's health coverage to shreds and     laying off        many of our fighting men and women       into      a world of high     unemployment?

 

Taxpayer-funded abortion:  See the arguments above.

 

These messages are not difficult to fit into the left's framing of the conversation.   But you HAVE to be willing to take that frame, turn it on its side and show the world the WHOLE picture.

310 You want to have sex (with someone not me)? Fine! Have at it, and have a merry time of it providing your partner(s) is competent and of an age to consent.

You want me to buy your contraception, lubricants, and/or toys?

Not so much.  Buy your own happy time.

311 Did the SCOAMF personally call the family of slain Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry?

312 "Rush Limbaugh gets higher ratings and more money if Obama is reelected. "

So now Rush is *trying* get Obama re-elected!?! What ill-informed rubbish. The man has been on the air fighting for conservatism for almost twenty-five years, through Republican and Democrat administrations. His ratings are good regardless of who is in the White House, and it's not as if the Left quiets down when they're out of power.

The idea that Limbaugh would sabotage the country just for his ratings is an ignorant insult to a good man who's done great work for our cause.

313 The slut jokes come from her saying she needs $3k to buy condoms. That's a lot of fucking condoms.

The prostitute jokes come from her saying we have to give her $3k for her to have sex.

It's a joke the Left is purposefully not getting cause it helps their narrative.

Again, fuck Sandra Fluke -- just be prepared to wait in line a bit.

314 Why isn't Ron Paul - Mr. Liberty - leading the charge on this?  The kook that he is, he would still have the added bonus of being able to credibly speak on this issue as a doctor, particularly as an OB/GYN.  We keep hearing this is a health issue.  I would think libertarians might find this one of the biggest infringments on civil liberties ever enacted by the federal government.  Certainly it is an infringment on religious liberties, but it is a clear infringment on economic liberties, which libertarians are always telling us are just as important (which I completely agree with).  So why is Paul just saying this is a silly issue.  Why isn't he saying this is exactly what we can expect from an expanding federal government.  This should be the one area that unites social conservatives, fiscal conservatives, and libertarians.  Instead the social conservatives are leading the charge, and it appears like they are taking flack from both sides for doing so.  Why? 

315 Sorry Heather, your are not contributing enough. It's alright though, two or three illegals will take your non-childrens place. Unfortunately, they will bring in 4 or 5 relatives to sponge off the system.

316 She deserves to be mocked. Fuck Sandra Fluke. Obviously a lot of dudes have.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at March 02, 2012 02:23 PM (ZPrif)

She's a militant feminist. I'm guessing she does get or allow any dude action

317 The proper GOP position is simple, at least for us libertarians:

Screw whomever you want (within the usual ethical bounds) but don't expect us to pick up the bill.

And when I start seeing the federal budget refunded for the trillions of dollars they've spent over the last forty years on Other People's Bastards, I'll start taking the libertarians seriously about this.

318

; margin: 0in 0in 12pt;" class="MsoNormal"> 309Okay when did a woman having sex without being married become the same thing as being a 'slut' and a 'whore'?

Because in my mind they're not.

Posted by: Mætenloch at March 02, 2012 02:23 PM (pAlYe)

 

I donÂ’t believe anyone has said or inferred that, although Drew probably thinks so.

319 OOPS, I thought italics were still working. Anyway, the first two paragraphs were originally someone else.

320

Fluke is probably Occupy crowd. She probably expects the tax payer to pony up for her casual sex and the cost of her education.

 

321 We already sit back and let the Media set the agenda.  How is this any different?  Is there anyone out there saying, yes, this woman is a slut, or are we all just lying back and hoping it'll blow over so the Media will let us talk about Important Stuff?

When have they ever let us set the agenda?  Dates and links, please.

322 I'm here, lets talk

323 #319. Correction: doesn't get or allow

324 From her testimony and statements it is obvious that she picked a Catholic institution to attend so she could become a secular Jeanne d'Arc.  And she succeeded.

325 309 Okay when did a woman having sex without being married become the same thing as being a 'slut' and a 'whore'?

Because in my mind they're not.

Posted by: Mætenloch at March 02, 2012 02:23 PM (pAlYe)

 

Three times per day every day? That is probably multiple guys. Also advertising your uncommitted multiple partner sex is skanky, sorry.

326 There's nothing wrong with Rush being Rush and mocking this stupid bitch.

We can't cower in fear.

Rush called her a slut. In the words of Andrew Breitbart  --- so what? So?? Big fucking deal.

327 Fluke is probably Occupy crowd. Sheprobably expects thetax payer to pony up for her casual sex and the cost of her education.

Posted by: rectal exam at March 02, 2012 02:27 PM (O7ksG)

We've got to pay for her getting raped? And that's probably the only sex she's getting

328 Obama phoned my owner, today. I'm real popular now, even on NBC and all

329 http://www.jammiewf.com/2012/sandra-flukes-appearance-is-no-fluke/

she's no "average" student, and she's 30 not 23......

330 "The liberals won in '92 on a simple message:

"IT'S THE ECONOMY, STUPID!"

The absolutely identical message has to be seized upon by the right for this year."
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And then what do you do when the media narrative is all about how the economy is improving. What do you do when the unemployment rate drops a little and it's 24/7 hosannas about how Obama saved the economy?

It can't be all about the economy, because it's never just about the economy.

331 I donÂ’t believe anyone has said or inferred that, although
Drew probably thinks so.

Posted by: jwest at March 02, 2012 02:27 PM (FdndL)

Well a lot of people here seem to be defending Rush's words by claiming that she *is* a slut.

332 I love it. Rush makes fun of a loser and Drew loses his mind over it. Lighten the fuck up people, you aren't having fun anymore if this gets you upset.

333 The point is that she lied. If her lie is true then she's a slut/skank/whore et al. That's the trap. She's either that or a liar. Get it?

334 Plus, this is a total distraction from winning campaign issues: the economy.
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I agree. The media had turned completely against Obama with daily stories about the poor state of the economy and how it is all Obama's fault. Now, a single talk show host has fucked it all up. The whole election is bust and Obama will serve a second term for sure.

?

335 3000 dollars to buy condoms? You can get a bucket load at condomdepot, 100 condoms for 29 dollars. That's 10,344 condoms per year...for one law school student? That means she's practicing 'safe sex' some 28 times per freaking day.

Rush was right to make fun of this.

336 I'm NOT a Slut!!!

337 How many times a day did she imply she was having sex?

338 Rush has had fun tweaking this girl and the MFM, but he has also made it very clear that this was caused by Obama attempting to circumvent the first amendment.

339 Besides all women who have unmarried sex aren't sluts. Most are just dumb or immature or drunk.

340 STOP CALLING ME A SLUT!!!1!

341 Get your hands off my body! (Except when I want other to pay for what I do to my body.)

342 BUT THE PILL IS MEDICINE FOR MY HORMONE IMBALANCE!  IT STOPS MY RAMPANT P.M.S.   IT'S NOT BIRTH CONTROL!  NOW PAY ME!

343 Three times per day every day? That is probably multiple guys. Also advertising your uncommitted multiple partner sex is skanky, sorry.

Posted by: dagny loved andrew at March 02, 2012 02:28 PM (u50z0)

Um where is this multiple sex partners talk coming from? I haven't seen any mention of it.

Because I figure she's just lying/exaggerating about the cost of whatever BC she's using.

344 Maybe Sandra Fluke just needs to use 10 condoms at a time to protect the dudes from her oozing, puss-filled vagina.

Important questions. How diseased is Sandra Fluke's vagina?

345 How many times a day did she imply she was having sex? Posted by: mike at March 02, 2012 02:31 PM (qIvR1) only one time that day, but it was the battery operated kind, you know?

346 The fact that we're even having this conversation is evidence enough that Limbaugh scored an own goal.

347 Three times per day every day? That is probably multiple guys.
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Now that is real community activism.

348 quickmeme has a fluke meme. The best one so far is "relax sandy, your girlfriend can't get you pregnant."

349 340 She said $1000 per year. Pills are only $9 a month so they figured out about what $1000 of condoms would be and it came out to 3 times per day every day. Every single day. Since no guy could keep that up day in and day out they surmised that there was a line. Hence "slut".

350 Um... a third year law student who - by implication - openly admits she's a slut, is testifying in Congress as some sort of expert?

Really??


And this is only an issue of "now we're talking about this" because Ace likes to subscribe to whatever idiot talking point the Left trots out as some sort of advance defeat of Conservatism.

You're far too easily cowed by the Left, Ace.

351 And people are calling her out on her stupid lies by taking her lies seriously -- that's the jokey-joke part.

352 Important questions. How diseased is Sandra Fluke's vagina? Posted by: Clubber Lang at March 02, 2012 02:32 PM (ZPrif) no disease here, except that my owner is a fucking idiot

353

The fact that we're even having this conversation is evidence enough that Limbaugh scored an own goal.

 

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No.

354 Drew, I get you really really really don't want to be confused with a socon, but denying Obama the power to order everybody to buy women birth control, helps the economy and checks his power grabs.

355 We should be thankful that the left has decided to show us the folly of Obamacare using contraceptions instead of something like breast exams.  Everyone is for breast exams and most people probably think that insurance companies should pay for them (and they probably do).  The economic argument against mandating both is the exact same - we should let the market dictate what should be covered.  But most people would be in favor of paying for breast exams.  Most people are not in favor of paying for other people to have sex. 

356 Because I figure she's just lying/exaggerating about the cost of whatever BC she's using.

Posted by: Mætenloch at March 02, 2012 02:32 PM (pAlYe)

 

That's the point. Lying or slut. Pick one. It's obviously the lie, right? It tears down Obama's whole argument. The Church doesn't need to pay for this broad's birth control.

357 Look out pols have to keep their mouths clean and not say any off-color jokes or anything that can be misinterpreted.

Rush doesn't have to. He's a radio shock jock. Jesus people. He used to cut off callers with abortion sounds and did a Barney Frank Banking Queen song.

Rush is allowed to make offensive jokes.
Lighten the fuck up.

358

Not going to read 300+ comments (I'm not Andrew B, after all), but yes Drew, we do both.  This and that, all of it.  We defend our position vigorously and clearly.  Whenever we can, and wherever it's needed. 

 

Next...

359 Surely Ms. Fluke uses contracetions for medical purposes only. I mean c'mon. Look at her. She's probably a lesbian.

360 352 340 She said $1000 per year. Pills are only $9 a month so they figured out about what $1000 of condoms would be and it came out to 3 times per day every day. Every single day. Since no guy could keep that up day in and day out they surmised that there was a line. Hence "slut".

Posted by: dagny loved andrew at March 02, 2012 02:33 PM (u50z0)

Yeah but - and hear me out on this - what *if* she's exaggerating by picking the most expensive birth control pills and lumping in medical exams and tests along with them?

Okay she's an annoying, dishonest activist - but I just don't see how it immediately follows that she _must_ be a slut.

361

You're far too easily cowed by the Left, Ace.

 

It was drew this time

362 If someone is having sex so often that they want the bishop to cover their birth control, they are probably abusing and should have an intervention, instead of demanding other enable them. Is that better?

363 Fuck Sandra Fluke.
Just make sure you have your # ready when you get to the front of the line.

364 Who is first?

365 Ever notice how the women who yell loudest about abortion and contraception rights are women you wouldn't want to fuck in the first place?

366 Folks need to calm down, especially the OP. The girl and her enablers ain't preaching to anybody but the choir and no matter what Limbaugh or any of the other talking heads would've said the MFM would have found a way to turn her into the Joan of Arc of wimmins ladyparts, or something.

Besides, she appears to be a liar (she's 30, NOT 23) and she enrolled at Georgetown Law with the express purpose of combating the evil of not having contraception covered in the school's student insurance policy. Prior to her enrolling there, she was trolling the liberal/progressive waters as some sort of activist. I'm just wondering who among the super brains at that law school allowed her to get into the place.

Know what I say:  "Bring it, girl." There are plenty of people and groups willing to get down in the mud and roll around with the pig, metaphorically speaking, and will probably even like getting covered in mud while doing so. Sandra Fluke, you're just a fluke (of nature, that is).

367 Sandra Fluke - Patron saint of sloppy seconds. And thirds. And fourths. And ...

368 Are you kidding me?  Fluke has never gotten laid... by a dude.  She's a lifelong feminist activist who looks like Maddow's brother.  What are you guys thinking?  Don't you have a functional gaydar?

So the Rush thing was a misplay, as Fluke is obviously taking the pill for hormonal reasons.

369

@287 Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 02, 2012 02:14 PM (/kI1Q)

 

Oh my goodness, sweetie!  I wasn't saying that to imply that someone who doesn't have kids is somehow not paying their fair share - I meant that if Ms. Fluke wants ME to pay for HER choices, then she needs to understand that SHE might find herself required to pay for MY choices.

 

If she doesn't want me getting into her business, then she better just GTFO of my business.

 

And Ms. Fluke strikes me as one of those OWS types who is always bleating about how "the rich" aren't paying "their fair share".  I'm just letting her know that HER fair share - since she is so gung-ho for all of these "free" services that are being provided - is to pop out a couple of future people to pay for all of the goodies that she thinks are her "right".

 

I wasn't attacking childless women/couples in general, just this particular airhead.....

370 **Okay she's an annoying, dishonest activist - but I just don't see how it immediately follows that she _must_ be a slut. ** However she did the math...if it turns out she can't afford her sexual lifestyle, she could either put the brakes on, or make a federal case for subsidies. She chose B.

371 what *if* she's exaggerating by picking the most expensive birth control pills and lumping in medical exams and tests along with them?

That last part isn't contraception, it's healthcare and thus a separate issue. 

372 And then what do you do when the media narrative is all about how the economy is improving. What do you do when the unemployment rate drops a little and it's 24/7 hosannas about how Obama saved the economy?

It can't be all about the economy, because it's never just about the economy.

Posted by: Kensington at March 02, 2012 02:30 PM (/AHDz)

You ask people if they're better off now than they were 4 years ago.  If people answer that honestly and vote accordingly the JEF is toast.

373

Yeah but - and hear me out on this - what *if* she's exaggerating by picking the most expensive birth control pills and lumping in medical exams and tests along with them?

Okay she's an annoying, dishonest activist - but I just don't see how it immediately follows that she _must_ be a slut.

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It doesn't. This is the joke. We could just call her a liar, but that's to easy and obvious. Instead, let's actually take her at her word and assume she's ahving sex with 46534 men a day.

374 "It's a fraction of a single party. Unless you can manage to not annoy the other 2/3 of the party, it will probably be a losing issue still, at least in the general."
In other words, if you disagree with me, shut up and know your place. Not just "well that's your opinion" but "you are RUINING EVERYTHING!"
surely you see the problem here.

375

363 The tests/doctor are covered. She's saying it's the birth control itself.

 

 

I'm not the person to argue unmarried sex doesn't equal slut with. Unless you're engaged, I think it does so knock yourself out with defending it to everyone else. I don't argue the slut point but women are stupid to fuck around, sorry if I'm not "hip" to sleeping around with strangers.

376 The left should just give up the whole "healthcare" facade. The elite left dont want to be "burdened" with a child and do not want the poor having children but will never admit it. All this contraception and abortion funding is about POPULATION CONTROL.

377 Maybe she could do without the $3,000 custom made imported Japanese robo-dildo and just make do with the $40 Brookstone massager like normal women.

378 I can't help but think back to Ace's bonfires on the beach moment when he realized how badly he'd been duped by the left in the media and entertainment. It keeps coming up here over and over lately, but the posters don't even seem to realize it. You've been taken in so completely you don't even understand what's happened.

379 However she did the math...if it turns out she can't afford her sexual lifestyle, she could either put the brakes on, or make a federal case for subsidies. She chose B.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at March 02, 2012 02:39 PM (3GtyG)

Well 'sexual lifestyle' could be a long-term boyfriend.

But whatever it is I don't want to have to pay for it.

380 "Maybe she could do without the $3,000 custom made imported Japanese robo-dildo and just make do with the $40 Brookstone massager like normal women."
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No, I can't. Pay me.

381 Obama doesn't need to be calling Fluke, the patron saint of pay-for-my-promiscuity.  He needs to call a press conference and announce his resignation.

382

Rush, Rush, Rush...I though the master knew that he must use a woman's own words to mock her.  Never attack with your words.  Ju jitsu, my friend.

"We're fierce, we're feminist, and we're IN  YOUR FACE!"

383 Off to google picture of Fluke

384 Ok, new policy. We are no longer allowed to make jokes to mock blatant lies by the Left.

Nope the media will air her obvious lies as truth. And then when we mock it with jokes, the media pretends our obvious jokes aren't jokes and reports them as straight opinion.

Unilateral disarmament is so fun.

385 "I'm sorry, but you are pathetic. In the wake of Andrew Breibart's death you do exactly what he dedicated his life to fighting. Instead of making a principled argument for or against what Limbaugh actually said, you accept the liberal spin and attack our own side."

+

386 The obvious lie she told Congress (which used to be a crime, no?) was that an unnamed, married, female student (see, she's married, not some slag gagging for a shag!) told Fluke that "she had to stop using contraception because she and her husband just couldn't fit it in to their budget."

I call bullshit on that one, as does everyone else with more than six living brain cells.  Two people can't afford $9/month to prevent a pregnancy? $4.50 apiece per month? Taking a sandwich instead of picking up a McD's combo once a month.  TO PREVENT A PREGNANCY.  And the wife made it into Georgetown law school?  Not a glittering recommendation for that program, is it?

I wonder how many iPhones/iPads that couple has.

387 Ok, not fugly but not hot. Definitely not bar pick-up material. She's gotta be advertising.

388 "Where the f*** are the Republicans to slam this shit back in the right direction...aimed at King Barry and his attack on religious freedom?"

The main one died yesterday.

389

Fluke, a birth control activist, spoke with TODAYÂ’s Matt Lauer about LimbaughÂ’s comments and the failure of a GOP-sponsored amendment that would have allowed employers at religious institutions to opt out of providing contraception in health plans.

Fluke told Lauer that she expected some backlash, especially from someone like Limbaugh. Still, the comments stung — especially since they were made on the first day of Women’s History Month.

I'll bet this broad is a raging lesbian feminist and has never need any sort of birth control. Although her parents should have use it

390 Every college town I've ever been in has been awash with free condoms.

I've had first dates where feminazi chicks have come up and handed free condoms to me and my date.

Seriously, there are about a billion free condoms in every college town.

391 what's fluke's point and why did the democrats chose her? She decided to go to Georgetown, benefiting from its Jesuit heritage, yet she wants to tear it down. She's not an honest person.

392

Ok, new policy. We are no longer allowed to make jokes to mock blatant lies by the Left.

Nope the media will air her obvious lies as truth. And then when we mock it with jokes, the media pretends our obvious jokes aren't jokes and reports them as straight opinion.

Unilateral disarmament is so fun.

 

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This guy's got it!

393 Does anyone have any evidence that she's ever had sex with a man?  Like I said, she looks like Maddow's brother and is a lifelong feminist activist.  Does that scream to you "SEXPOT!"

Or flannel-wearing Lilith-Fair attendee?  Not that there's anything wrong with that.

394 Can't she get a volume discount? Don't they sell this shit in bulk at Sam's Club?

395 This bitch just wants somebody else to pay for her operating expenses.

396 I don't argue the slut point but women are stupid to fuck around, sorry if I'm not "hip" to sleeping around with strangers.

Posted by: dagny loved andrew at March 02, 2012 02:41 PM (u50z0)

Um, where's the part about being 'hip' sleeping around with strangers?

I guess the part I'm having trouble with here is that people seem to be projecting details from their brains onto her story that aren't there. That doesn't help the argument here.

397

The other side is controlling the message right now.  If that continues to occur, then conservatives will lose.   The common ground to win the election is the economy and increasing government control over our lives.  Forget the moral issues until we win.

398 "Are you fuckers here retarded? Are you not capable of following two issues at once? Have you no spines?"

Yes,
No,
No.

399 "The sad thing is, despite all I've said about the left above, they're not the only ones. I see not a few libertarian types in here who are acting exactly the same way on this topic (and others involving social conservatism). They have a caricature in their heads and damn the facts, that's what they cling to."

Christopher Taylor, I never thought I'd say this, but: you are exactly right.

I'm not a socon, but I can recognize when we're being collectively played.

400 Our leadership.

We are doomed unless we get rid of these people.

401

While it disgusts me, the Left's fake outrage over this issue of calling a skank a skank is also amusing to me because it's so feeble.  I WISH I lived in a nation where one could silence a woman just by pointing out her sluttishness.  It's quite the opposite.  Whore it up enough and you'll prolly get your own reality show and millions of dollars.

I don't think regular people are going to be buying into their crap this time.  Who can even still remember a time when a woman acting as the town pump received any kind of negative attention?

 

402 Okay when did a woman having sex without being married become the same thing as being a 'slut' and a 'whore'?

Because in my mind they're not.

Posted by: Mætenloch at March 02, 2012 02:23 PM (pAlYe)

At about the 12th guy for the week, when she first ran out of rubbers.

403 "You are 1/3 of the party. Deal with it."

Fusionism: DOIN IT WRONG

404 "Drew isn't accepting the liberal spin. He's criticising the willingness of some on the right to allow the Left to sidetrack us into social issues in an election year where everything hinges on making Obama's reelection a referendum on his dismal record."

Point of clarification: isn't his record *also* dismal on social issues?

405 "The liberals won in '92 on a simple message:

"IT'S THE ECONOMY, STUPID!"

The absolutely identical message has to be seized upon by the right for this year."

This is not true. Carville's sign had three items:

1) Change vs. more of the same
2) Don't forget health care
3) The economy, stupid.

Romney flunks (2). Santorum *tries* to hit (3) but his past comments (and his general inability to censor himself) might make it too difficult.

Newt, sadly, is the closest to getting it.

406 I remember a chick bragging -- at an outdoor lunchtime social event -- that just the other day she'd banged two dudes in one day. One guy had slept over. And the other dude she was dating stopped by for lunch. The dudes were not aware of each other.

She told this to a group of guys. A look of involuntary disgust swept over all of our faces and she immediately realized what our reaction meant. She said, "Wait, that doesn't make me a slut, right?"

407 I heard Obama called her for phone sex...

408

Meet What The LeftÂ’s Newest Hero Should Be

 

“A wealthy New York woman is facing criminal charges after being accused of keeping an illegal immigrant as an indentured servant and forcing her to live in a closet for nearly six years.”

 

http://tinyurl.com/7fmuysr

 

Annie George, 39, owner of Llenroc Mansion in New York and contributor to EmilyÂ’s List could be the new poster child of how the left cares about the poor – if only the right wing blogisphere would grow a pair of balls.

409 One group wants to socialize sex and make you pay for it, and override the 1st Amendment, and Rush calls them a name. RUSH IS MEAN! The really insane irony is, a free society *still* produces better results, even though the people making all those choices are fucking idiots.

410

“A wealthy New York woman is facing criminal charges after
being accused of keeping an illegal immigrant as an indentured servant and
forcing her to live in a closet for nearly six years.”

A closet?  Damn!  I'd kill to live in a closet.  Is this lady interested in a live-in lover?  I'm looking to move up.

411

Dear Mr. Purty Smart Ace Commentator Fellow:

 

The Left's Wickedly Brilliant memeing only works when marshmellows like you go along with it.

Instead of twisting your panties about how the Soviet Style Media is going to try to reframe the incident, and thereby helping them do so, why dont you call her a slut too, you chickenshit pussy?

I think I just answered my own question.

 

 

412 Good Lord, Drew. Libs start griping and you get all limp.

413

If we just knew an influential blogger who could feed and coordinate the conservativeÂ’s outrage at the Annie George story.  That would be good.

 

HereÂ’s how it might lookÂ…

 

Annie George, contributor to the liberal activist group “EmilyÂ’s List”, is facing criminal charges for forcing a servant to live in a closet for 6 years in her 30,000 square foot mansion.  Although EmilyÂ’s List has taken positions on womenÂ’s pay in fundraising literature, the servant was paid approximately 85 cents per hour.

 

Officials of EmilyÂ’s List have been silent on this incident and local law enforcement has not released any indication of how many of the organizationÂ’s members knew of or approved of Ms. George keeping an indentured servant in a closet.  It is unclear at this time if EmilyÂ’s List contributors regularly use slave labor, however, until the organization officially condemns the action it remains unknown if the liberal group opposes the practice.

414 When I was in law school I needed coffee at lot more than I had time for sex.  I wouldn't be surprised if Fluke spends more in a week for coffee at Saxby's and Uncommon Grounds than she pays in a year for birth control.  Perhaps her next move will be to ask Congress to subsidize her caffeine fix.

415 I think Obama was calling her for a little hookup. She's got a reputation, you know.

416 Sure, who cares about a little "collateral damage" to our religious liberties.  What matters is the economy, dammit!  If they force priests to perform abortions on the altars during  Mass - no biggie.  It's just a "distraction" from the "big issues" of the day, I suppose. 

417

404,

 

The only morals issue in this whole thing involves the attempted raping of our wallets by a dipshit feminist law student who doesn't want to pay for the pill and some rubbers, and expects Congress to go along with said raping.  How fucking hard is that to understand?  Both of the fucking issues you cited are front and center in this argument, why can you not see that?

418 Rush missed the point here by a mile. He called Fluke a slut and a prostitute. There is no evidence that she is either of those things. Adults have sex and there is nothing wrong with that. There is also nothing wrong with attempting to avoid an unwanted pregnancy. I see no evidence whatsoever that Fluke is a slut or a prostitute and Rush was out of line when he said it. Fluke is, however, a parasite and a promoter of parasitism.

419 So insurance comp0anies and people who don't need contraceptives are suppossed to feel sorry for a woman screwing her way through college.  Next we will be expected to pay for the drinks that get her drunk enough to need a $1000 a year work of rubbers.  The only drawback is we don't get any of her nooky.

420 I don't think she's unattractive, although in this picture, it looks like she might still have some of her baby teeth on the bottom.

http://tinyurl.com/7h5xm4b

Heh.  I said "bottom", heh-heh.

421 "There is no evidence that she is either of those things."
$1000 a year in contraceptives.

422
Here's an idea: let's make contraception mandatory. Then you will have fewer women living in poverty, and fewer children living in poverty. And if you want a kid, you have to apply for a license.

I put that in the "win win win" category. And it gives Teh Won more power.

423 "$1000 a year in contraceptives." She was talking about the pill and I believe the pill has a flat annual rate and costs the same whether you have sex once or a hundred times. Not that it matters. My point was that I am unsupportive of her, not because she wants birth control, but rather because she wants others to pay for it.

424 Remembering a bit of Bio 2...Flukes and Leeches are both parasitic worms with strong sucking mouths. They differ primarily in the fact that Flukes live INSIDE the host and in fact few can survive outside of a host body. Leeches feed on a particular host then drop away, while Flukes cannot survive with out attachment.Flukes are also flatter, rounder, more ovoid in body structure.
 In this case Georgetown in particular and Colleges in general appear to be the target hosts.

425 "You're far too easily cowed by the Left, Ace.

It was drew this time"

 

Wow, OK, I totally screwed that one up. Didn't even look at the byline.

Statement retracted.

426 Our choices are: 1) Frame the issue properly ensuring it's religious freedom/not having to pay for someone's birth control/etc. vs. 2) frame it the Rush way. Option 1 results in crickets and option 2 results an MSM spin frenzy that threatens to destroy our cause.

We're so fucked.

This is like a Superbowl where you KNOW the refs have been paid off by your opposition. You're just waiting for the pass interference flags to be thrown.

427 "This is like a Superbowl where you KNOW the refs have been paid off by your opposition."

You cannot lose if you do not play.

- Mrs. Daniels

428 Right, Limbaugh isn't running for president, so why is everyone butthurt over this? This whole contraceptive bullshit isn't going to work with Mitt Romney as the nominee (anyone notice that nobody is talking about OWS anymore?)

429 What are we fighting for in this erection?

Oh, that.

430 Contraception or abortion my ass! This election ought to be about entitlement reform. Ms. Fluke is all about yet another entitlement, for being a 'slut.' The passing of six decades has not redefined the term. Here's an idea for Ms. Fluke to reduce the cost of sex. Insist that your male partners bring a rubber, at least half of the time. If I'm going to pay for it I want to participate, or maybe not. 

431 This was all planned a long time ago. The Left choreographed this whole thing in order to get certain people to respond. And here right on cue is Rush Limbaugh. Now here's your part in the Left's plan: You're supposed to bite your nails and alienate Rush Limbaugh. Will you play your part? Some of you will, yes. Posted by: soothsayer at March 02, 2012 01:25 PM Bingo. Divide and conquer. All the self-righteous whining from so-called conservative blogs about Rush Limbaugh "falling for the Left's trap" is hilarious irony, considering those same bloggers have fallen for the Left's trap of going after those on our own side. Pathetic. Breitbart has been gone 1 day and his message of everyone sticking together and focusing on Obama as the enemy -- and NOT people on our own side such as Rush Limbaugh -- is already gone. Again, pathetic. 8 more months of our side shooting our own. Brilliant...

432 This is the kind of shit that makes us lose everything. We denounce our own side when the left would be going to the mattresses. Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at March 02, 2012 01:31 PM This. It's getting pretty fucking annoying that whenever our side is hitting Obama on something, others on our side throw those people under the bus, because they're not hitting Obama in the way that they say he should be hit. Again, wasn't Breitbart's message to join together? For a site that claims to be a big fan of Breitbart, it sure isn't following his message. So much for taking up his sword...

433 Did any of you even listen to Andrew Breitbart's CPAC speech? Posted by: soothsayer at March 02, 2012 01:32 PM I'm sure most did. The question is did any of them understand it. From this post and many of the anti-Rush comments, it's pretty clear the answer is 'no'.

434 So lemme get this straight, this WHORE, whines in front of congress wanting tax payers to pay for her wanton ways, Rush pontificates about it, and it's somehow his fault that she's in the news? I've seen some seriously stupid anti-Rush nonsense posted here, this takes the fucking cake. Posted by: Unclefacts Out Of Commenting Retirement Just For This One Thing at March 02, 2012 01:38 PM Yep. This apparently was the legacy left by Andrew Breitbart: "When the Left deliberately lies, and the leaders on the Right call them out on their lies, throw the leaders on the Right under the bus!" Brilliant. It really is sad to read people whining about Rush going off message. Rush is attacking Obama, these people are attacking Rush. It's pretty damn obvious who's off message here...

435 Oh, I heard about her before she was mentioned by Rush. In fact ABC carried on radio and tv ALL fucking day the day she wanted to "testify" in front of a congressional hearing for religious leaders on freedom of religion. The house wouldn't "LET HER" because it was a trained seal thing and she wasn't a religious leader. The orginal hearing happened to be all male so the Pelosi meme was that they were having a hearing on birth control and they wouldn't let a WOMAN talk. LEFTY LEFTY BLAH BLAH Couple of days later Pelosi has her own PRETEND hearings where she has this slut show up and whine about "womens health" and the high price of fucking. Couple of days later Rush says why do we have to pay for this slut's condoms? All hell breaks loose IT WAS PELOSI NOT RUSH AND ABC. head pounding Posted by: dagny loved andrew at March 02, 2012 01:47 PM Ah, facts. Such inconvenient things when there's a Rush-hating agenda! Let's not focus on the facts here, let's focus on attacking Rush Limbaugh, because that's what is going to win us this election! Apparently when people read that we should take up Andrew Breitbart's sword, they felt the best way to use it was to stab Rush in the back. Brilliant!

436 Rush *is* pitching this as "she's an Obama patsy assisting in his unprecidented power grab". That, first and foremost, is the point he keeps making about this. Posted by: Ian S. at March 02, 2012 01:49 PM Yep. If people bothered to actually listen to Rush, they'd know this. But that's apparently too difficult to do. Much easier to just hate on Rush and blame him for all the problems we're having in this country.

437 Maybe a chastity belt might help.

438

First Fluke desires free contraception but the deeper we dig she desires that we all pay for sex change operations so people change their plumbing.

439 What a left-wing slut whore. Why should I_have_to_pay_for_anyone_elses_birth_controls? We are heading for a complete socialist clusterfuck in this country and nobody with any authority is trying to put on the brakes. Sarah Palin tried, but failed, Rick Perry was the best hope after her. Maybe Rick Santorum will shape up but God help us if Romney gets it, he's just White Barack HUSSEIN Obama after all. Oh, also, Sandra Fluke is a kike lover - her boyfriend is one of those hook-nosed devils, rich off other people's money already and looking to tax the rest of us to protect their unholy couplings from the risk of an "inconvenient disease" (pregnancy).