September 25, 2012
— Ace Apparently we've solved all serious problems. We can now turn our focus to the lesser problems, like fat kids.
And, because we don't want to make fat kids feel fat, we'll put everyone on a restricted-calorie diet.
Our Professional Deciders have decided that the dietary requirements of an athlete or morning farm-worker are exactly the same as a sedentary overweight kid who needs fewer calories.
Some Kansas students and at least one political leader say new school lunch guidelines aimed at limiting calories and encouraging good nutrition are having an unintended consequence:Hungry kids.
But that's not an unintended consequence. It's an intended one. A fair percentage of kids are overweight and need to diet (though restricted-calorie diets aren't the way to go). But the government, being of a One Size Fits All mindset, mandates the restricted-calorie diet for people who plainly do not need to diet (active students, athletes) and wonders why so many are complaining.
Even as far as addressing the overweight kids -- the intended consequence is hunger. Why do they imagine restricted-calorie diets are so unpopular?
It's the hunger, stupid.
...The new guidelines — the first major overhaul of school meals in 15 years — also require cafeterias to serve less fat and sodium and more fruits, vegetables and whole grains.
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The lunch included one cheese-stuffed bread stick, a small dollop of marinara sauce, three apple slices and some raw spinach. Kirkham supplemented the lunch with items from a salad bar, including cubes of ham, bacon bits and dressing, which were available only to teachers.
“I asked why the sauce had no meat and I was informed that due to the breadsticks containing cheese, the meat would put us over the guidelines for protein,” Kirkham wrote.
“Now think of a high school boy who works out at least three hours a day, not including farm work. … I’m furious. The ‘cheese’ inside the breadstick is approximately three bites. This is ridiculous.”
This being McClatchy, though, they go on to talk up how many people like being hungry. If I could offer my own spin -- it gives students a sense of focus (on survival functions).
The USDA now recommends packing "healthy snacks" for kids. So what is the point here? They enact a restricted-calorie diet for all students, 75% of whom don't need it, and then suggest that parents send along more calories if they think their kids need it?
Then what is the point of denying hungry kids an extra portion? The system is set up for full compliance (no exceptions!) in order to make sure the fat kids aren't cheating. But this One Size Fits All approach doesn't work for everyone, so they tell people "Eat more if you need to."
So, if there's an element of students (and their parents) making individually-tailored diet decisions here, why impose the blanket calorie-restricted diet on everyone?
There's an easy way out of this, of course. They could just permit extra portions to any athletes or anyone whose parents sign a form stating they work in the morning and need extra calories.
This is obvious, of course. But they don't do it because One Size Fits All. It's a religious mantra. Can't treat different students differently, you know. Even when the students have different circumstances and different caloric needs.
If they're confessing their restricted-calorie state-imposed universal menu isn't universal -- if they're confessing that there is a strong element of personal/parental responsibility for diet decisions here -- then... why are they doing this?
A viral video, apparently written by a teacher and performed by a 16 year old football athlete, is parodying the program:
Political take: My own observation is this-- people get especially animated about things at the center of the human experience. Chiefly I mean sex, God, and food/eating habits.
Michelle Obama is playing with fire.
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Posted by: cajun carrot at September 25, 2012 07:44 AM (UZQM8)
Posted by: GMan at September 25, 2012 07:44 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at September 25, 2012 07:45 AM (WzJwX)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 25, 2012 07:45 AM (WXoUE)
Posted by: cajun carrot at September 25, 2012 07:46 AM (UZQM8)
Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 25, 2012 07:46 AM (W2Z3C)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2012 07:47 AM (TMB3S)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 25, 2012 07:47 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Clemenza at September 25, 2012 07:47 AM (afx6B)
It's about power.
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Yup.... obedience training for the masses.
Just like the TSA. Schooling future generations to take their orders from the authorities.
Posted by: fixerupper at September 25, 2012 07:48 AM (C8hzL)
I am holding in my hands a memo from our superitendent:
"Most of the food is being wasted. A few schools reported much more waste than before. It is simply too soon to tell whether the program is a failure or not, but it is the law and we must follow it or risk losing about $2 million in school lunch reimubursement."
Also: "You will probably be getting feedback on this issue."
Posted by: CJ at September 25, 2012 07:48 AM (9KqcB)
Posted by: eastvalleyphx says fuck islam at September 25, 2012 07:48 AM (GRvW4)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 25, 2012 07:48 AM (WXoUE)
Posted by: Brother Cavil presents at September 25, 2012 07:49 AM (GBXon)
Fat and sodium are NOT the enemy!!! They should serve more protein and less whole grains. Good Lord.....nutritional advice from.....the government? What could go wrong.
Posted by: Tami at September 25, 2012 07:49 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Humorless Lefty at September 25, 2012 07:49 AM (7vSU0)
Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 25, 2012 07:50 AM (W2Z3C)
Posted by: Mr Pink at September 25, 2012 07:50 AM (iv+KC)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 25, 2012 07:50 AM (CdCPN)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 25, 2012 07:50 AM (2b4yb)
I am just disappointed that the kids appear to have fallen asleep in chemistry class.
Posted by: chemjeff at September 25, 2012 07:50 AM (m/eXi)
"The future does not belong to those who defame The Prophet of Islam, nor those who ask for a second serving of meat loaf".
Posted by: Mr and Mrs. Barack Hussein Obama, Khalif of the Islamic Republic of Amerika at September 25, 2012 07:50 AM (NVdGX)
Posted by: cajun carrot at September 25, 2012 07:51 AM (UZQM8)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 25, 2012 07:51 AM (e0xKF)
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people, and generally more useful."
- Mark Rippetoe, who knows what the fuck he's talking about.
I ate like a bastard during football season and in the summer. My coach was always on me to put on more mass. How the fuck do you expect kids to live through a period of weightlifting and then a 2-3 hour practice after school on an 850-calorie lunch?
So fucking stupid.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 25, 2012 07:51 AM (vaKm1)
Posted by: They are coming for our children at September 25, 2012 07:51 AM (XtUgG)
Posted by: edj at September 25, 2012 07:51 AM (+QKfp)
Posted by: obi wan soothsayer at September 25, 2012 07:51 AM (6QTbk)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 25, 2012 07:51 AM (w9iTT)
Posted by: Lara Logan at September 25, 2012 07:52 AM (oSFWF)
The First Lady is now writing the lunch menus for local schools.
We are losing the battle for local control - of everything, but most glaringly, schools. We didnt' say much when W federalized schools under No Child Left Behind, but to think how far Republicans have come from when Reagan wanted to eliminated the Department of Education.
Posted by: CJ at September 25, 2012 07:52 AM (9KqcB)
Serious question here: What the hell is up with peanut allergies? When I was a kid, everybody ate peanut butter. Never saw anyone have a reaction. Where the hell did all this shit come from? Now Billy can't even bring a PBJ to school cuz Mikey might die from the smell?
I don't get it.
Posted by: eastvalleyphx says fuck islam at September 25, 2012 07:52 AM (GRvW4)
One group of kids that don't mind the low calorie diet?
The little girls with anorexia.
Posted by: Dang© at September 25, 2012 07:53 AM (R18D0)
I'm allergic to almost all fruits (yay for bananas), and most vegetables. I can digest some carb-food and protein (most of the time). What in the hell would I do, if I were a student there, or a teacher?
I've always loathed this "diet" crap. I consulted a nutritionist who solemnly swore that egg yolks have no nutritional value whatsoever; if they'll lie about that, they'll lie about anything...
Posted by: Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK at September 25, 2012 07:53 AM (7v5Ct)
I love that video. Awesome.
I am just disappointed that the kids appear to have fallen asleep in chemistry class.
LOL! Hi, Chemmy!
Posted by: runningrn at September 25, 2012 07:53 AM (WGmy2)
Restricting growing teenage boys to low protein, low calorie lunches...what could possibly go wrong?
Posted by: kallisto at September 25, 2012 07:53 AM (jm/9g)
"There's an easy way out of this, of course. They could just permit extra portions to any athletes or anyone whose parents sign a form stating they work in the morning and need extra calories."
This isn't a way out, this is simply creating exceptions to a Federally mandate that imposes a senseless and overbearing authority depriving individuals from the right to exercise their personal choices.
How about, instead of implementing an unworkable mandate and then making exceptions for certain classes of people, we remove the unworkable mandate altogether?
Posted by: mjhlaw at September 25, 2012 07:53 AM (0YJYN)
Posted by: WalrusRex at September 25, 2012 07:53 AM (Hx5uv)
that's 800 calories per meal. So these new school meals are providing 650 calories.
An athlete can burn thousands of calories in a day, Michael Phelps routinely consumed 8000 calories a day.
These people are maniacs.
They must be destroyed.
Posted by: General Woundwort at September 25, 2012 07:54 AM (06lNq)
Posted by: JoeinTX at September 25, 2012 07:54 AM (pjusE)
Posted by: Lord Lightweight at September 25, 2012 07:54 AM (FcR7P)
What the red States should do is say no federal funds and then embargo that amount of gas taxes.
Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2012 07:54 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 25, 2012 07:54 AM (e0xKF)
I bet you money that test scores will go down. It's hard to take a test when you are having hunger pains. Plus the lack of calories. Your brain needs fuel, not just your body.
Posted by: runningrn at September 25, 2012 07:55 AM (WGmy2)
Posted by: Adam at September 25, 2012 07:55 AM (/YJYi)
Good video, and its been out for a while. One of the few that I bring up on the big TV to watch. The overly dramatic falling down and crawling must really stick in the dimbocrats crawl.
Protesting the Hunger-Free Act of 2010 - what a fucking Orwellian title to a bill that brings more hunger instead of less. On seeing the bill title I knew it had to be invented by a Dem, and 1 minute of checking found that yes, it was introduced by a dem during her 45 seconds as Senator before being booted roundly by a Aransas Republican. Looks like it was introduced and rushed through during the lame duck congess of 2010. Practically introduced, and signed into law in world record time.
Posted by: Up with people! at September 25, 2012 07:55 AM (kzFo5)
Posted by: Jerry Seinfeld at September 25, 2012 07:55 AM (4LA+T)
Posted by: Damn straight at September 25, 2012 07:55 AM (XtUgG)
Posted by: WalrusRex at September 25, 2012 07:55 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Mick McMick at September 25, 2012 07:55 AM (l+MMl)
So I take that "Piss Christ" won't be happening then
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 25, 2012 07:55 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 25, 2012 07:55 AM (W2Z3C)
Same thing is happening at my kid's school.
Total rip-off.
Posted by: Dang© at September 25, 2012 07:55 AM (R18D0)
Govt perpetuating unscientific clap-trap.
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at September 25, 2012 07:55 AM (xAtAj)
Posted by: Abe Froman at September 25, 2012 07:55 AM (E55AK)
Posted by: BigDPhoton at September 25, 2012 07:56 AM (d2QQ4)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 25, 2012 07:56 AM (Ec6wH)
Yeah, but in order to do that you would need some guiding document that anchors legislative scope and size of the Federal Government. It would have to be influential, something on the order of a Constitution.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 25, 2012 07:56 AM (CdCPN)
Posted by: Mrs. President For Life Obama at September 25, 2012 07:56 AM (B5y+v)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 25, 2012 07:56 AM (oSFWF)
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Haha. You almost got me there! What? You're not kidding?
Posted by: edj at September 25, 2012 07:56 AM (+QKfp)
The Prophet of Islam screwed a nine year old girl.
It isn't slander if it is true. My future is intact
Posted by: Aisha's Hymen at September 25, 2012 07:56 AM (NVdGX)
These people honestly think that hunger is how to get through life.
Unless you're the preezy, then eat whatever you want.
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at September 25, 2012 07:56 AM (xAtAj)
Posted by: Bill from Chappaqua at September 25, 2012 07:56 AM (oPOWQ)
Posted by: WalrusRex at September 25, 2012 07:56 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2012 11:54 AM (YdQQY)
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They should do that for every program, and have all of the employers in the state send their quarterlies to the state capitol, then decide what percentage will be forwarded to DC. This was in the planning stages in the eighties, not sure what happened to it.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 25, 2012 07:57 AM (w9iTT)
Posted by: Lord Lightweight at September 25, 2012 07:57 AM (FcR7P)
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that's very good.
Posted by: WalrusRex at September 25, 2012 07:57 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: AJP at September 25, 2012 07:57 AM (KHo8t)
Posted by: MTF at September 25, 2012 07:58 AM (B5y+v)
All the school has to do is forgo federal funds and they can serve what ever they want.
It's a federal mandate to serve lunch. I don't think districts can afford it. They would need to get out from the mandate and then offer lunch to only the truly needy, but they would be buried in lawsuits.
Not that you are not taking the right approach. We need to wrestle control of our locals schools back from the feds.
Posted by: CJ at September 25, 2012 07:58 AM (9KqcB)
Serious question here: What the hell is up with peanut allergies? When I was a kid, everybody ate peanut butter. Never saw anyone have a reaction. Where the hell did all this shit come from? Now Billy can't even bring a PBJ to school cuz Mikey might die from the smell?<<<<<
They're not allergic, they're fucking racists.
Who invented the peanut? George Washington Carver - A KNOWN BLACK MAN. I don't know how clearly it needs to be laid out before people realize what's going on right in front of them.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 25, 2012 07:59 AM (vaKm1)
Posted by: Golan Globus at September 25, 2012 07:59 AM (7vSU0)
Posted by: jewells45 says Romney wins in a landslide at September 25, 2012 07:59 AM (l/N7H)
I don't have any children and don't really expect to have any in the future, and even so the thought of some beaurocrat intentionally denying my hypothetical children the necessary food makes me angry on a pretty viceral level.
Posted by: Grey Fox at September 25, 2012 07:59 AM (3XBCj)
I have to say that this is a great civics lesson for kids. They are learning something firsthand, better than they would if they sat in a government class. Top down legislating, state control is wrong. Gubamint trying to "solve problems" always has unintended consequences that harm the people the gubamint is trying to save. In short, elections have consequences, kiddies!
Posted by: runningrn at September 25, 2012 07:59 AM (WGmy2)
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How about the people who tell the truth about the prophet Muhammad? I've got a feeling they have no future either.
Posted by: WalrusRex at September 25, 2012 07:59 AM (Hx5uv)
In order to make kids less fat, don't underfeed them but make them run laps instead. Underfeeding children, unlike adults, is actually a really bad idea as opposed to merely ineffective. Supergenius wisdom from decades of football coaches. Also, long walks.
Posted by: Beagle at September 25, 2012 07:59 AM (sOtz/)
Serious question here: What the hell is up with peanut allergies? When I was a kid, everybody ate peanut butter. Never saw anyone have a reaction. Where the hell did all this shit come from? Now Billy can't even bring a PBJ to school cuz Mikey might die from the smell?
I don't get it.
Me either. We were on a plane a few weeks ago. I ordered a beer and asked for peanuts. The flight attendant said they couldn't serve any peanuts because someone on the plane had allergies. So I asked, What about all the peanuts on the floor? The attendant said I know, but it's our policy. Fucktards.
Posted by: Infidel at September 25, 2012 07:59 AM (O/fK8)
It's not my responsibility to feed someone else's little bacteria spreading idiots.
Posted by: franksalterego at September 25, 2012 07:59 AM (9XykO)
Posted by: George Orwell at September 25, 2012 08:00 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Rondinellamamma at September 25, 2012 08:00 AM (53riN)
This happened in South Carolina, not California or New York.
Posted by: BigDPhoton at September 25, 2012 11:56 AM (d2QQ4)
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She should have told him to eat it while she stood guard. I'm sorry, but any school official who believes that they outrank the parent needs to have some teeth knocked out.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 25, 2012 08:00 AM (w9iTT)
But I cannot help but fear what may become of this in our schools as this video will doubtless cause senseless acts of school violence over lunch money thefts and arson, or something.
Posted by: SCOAMF at September 25, 2012 08:00 AM (Kkt/i)
Posted by: Y-not at September 25, 2012 08:00 AM (5H6zj)
Eat until full.
Repeat this as long as you desire.
Have a great life.
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at September 25, 2012 08:00 AM (xAtAj)
Posted by: Travis at September 25, 2012 08:01 AM (/gUgY)
Posted by: eastvalleyphx says fuck islam at September 25, 2012 08:01 AM (GRvW4)
Posted by: Grey Fox at September 25, 2012 08:01 AM (3XBCj)
You want your kids to eat what you want them to have, send them to school with lunch you prepare.
The problem is, some of the schools are monitoring what kids are bringing from home. I remember several stories last year where kids were told the lunches they brought were unhealthy and were tossed. The kids were then forced to eat school lunches, and their parents were sent a bill. The schools were actually paying people to to through kids' lunch boxes to make sure they were in compliance with government standards. It's a crazy, scary world we are living in right now.
Posted by: runningrn at September 25, 2012 08:01 AM (WGmy2)
When your only tools are a hammer and a sickle, then everybody looks like a Kulak
Good enough reason for a repost:
High school band marches with hammer sickle
Superindendent:
"If anything is being celebrated it's the music," she said. "It is what it is. I understand people look at something and choose how to interpret that and I'm just very sorry that it wasn't looked at as just a history lesson."
Besides, she explained, "in 2008 we did an entire show on freedom."
Posted by: CJ at September 25, 2012 08:01 AM (9KqcB)
After Obama seizes all the farms, because they make a profit, and the Department of Agriculture is in charge of managing farming and food prooduction, people will have to get used to 1500 calories per day. Arugula will, however, be widely available.
I'm still waiting on Maxine Waters to follow through on her threat to nationalize the oil companies. I'll be buying Schwinn stocks then...
Posted by: Ed Mahmoud at September 25, 2012 08:01 AM (NVdGX)
Posted by: George Orwell at September 25, 2012 08:01 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: jewells45 says Romney wins in a landslide at September 25, 2012 11:59 AM (l/N7H)
You need to tell her that what they're serving is only 'healthy' in the mind of a gov't. bureaucrat.
Calorie restriction backfires big time....and PROTEIN AND SALT ARE NOT THE ENEMY!
Posted by: Tami at September 25, 2012 08:02 AM (X6akg)
RT @bdomenech: In Ohio tomorrow, Mike Rowe will join Mitt Romney. http://vlt.tc/hev
Posted by: Y-not at September 25, 2012 12:00 PM (5H6zj)
I've been saying for weeks he should use Mike. He's very popular!
Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 25, 2012 08:02 AM (W2Z3C)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 25, 2012 08:02 AM (e0xKF)
>>Serious question here: What the hell is up with peanut allergies? When I was a kid, everybody ate peanut butter. Never saw anyone have a reaction. Where the hell did all this shit come from? Now Billy can't even bring a PBJ to school cuz Mikey might die from the smell?<<<<<
Weak Jeans.
Posted by: Joe Biden at September 25, 2012 08:02 AM (4LA+T)
Posted by: Up with people! at September 25, 2012 08:03 AM (kzFo5)
Posted by: model_1066 at September 25, 2012 08:03 AM (yYKoR)
Posted by: jewells45 says Romney wins in a landslide at September 25, 2012 08:03 AM (l/N7H)
The more you eat, the more you fart
The more you fart, the better you feel
So let's eat beans with every meal
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 25, 2012 08:03 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 25, 2012 08:03 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: garrett at September 25, 2012 08:03 AM (4LA+T)
Who wants to bet that most of the fat fucks parent's are part of the 47% sucking the government teat?
And they'll give the fatties notes to get out of running.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 25, 2012 08:03 AM (2b4yb)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT and proud of it !!!!! at September 25, 2012 08:03 AM (48wze)
During lunch, HS level kids that can leave, do. Which means this drives them out of the building. Elementary and middle school parents are often signing kids out and taking them for lunch or dropping off something good.
Unfortunately, that leaves people who have no choice, and whose kids have to eat this crap, to starve.
No more brownies at the bake sale, no candy bars for funds raisers. Welcome to Obama's Amerika.
And Moochelle looks fatter than ever. What was she eating with Jay-Z the other night? Bet it wasn't carrot sticks and peaches.
Posted by: Exile at September 25, 2012 08:04 AM (GGCsk)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2012 08:04 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: t-bird at September 25, 2012 08:04 AM (FcR7P)
And, where the hell is dog on the menu?
Posted by: Injuin Blackfoot Barry, The One Who Eats Dogs at September 25, 2012 08:04 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Tami at September 25, 2012 12:02 PM (X6akg)
Too much protein can easily be an enemy.
More like fat and salt is not the enemy! There is NO difference in mortality for those eating salt and restricting salt. None.
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at September 25, 2012 08:04 AM (xAtAj)
Govt perpetuating unscientific clap-trap.
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Michelle's degree is in shutthefuckupology.
Posted by: WalrusRex at September 25, 2012 08:04 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, what did huma abedin know? at September 25, 2012 08:04 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: obi wan soothsayer at September 25, 2012 08:05 AM (2OdPQ)
Posted by: joeindc44 will vote Obama based on a D+20 internal poll at September 25, 2012 08:05 AM (QxSug)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 25, 2012 08:05 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: George Orwell at September 25, 2012 08:05 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: runningrn at September 25, 2012 12:01 PM (WGmy2)
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Send the school a bill for the lunch they tossed. This is really pissing me off.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 25, 2012 08:05 AM (w9iTT)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, what did huma abedin know? at September 25, 2012 08:05 AM (Ho2rs)
The State doesn't give a damn about the welfare or happiness of the general public. They seek the Man of Tomorrow, and a society befitting of him. There are bound to be some bumps in the road.
I remember, when I was a kid, we had barbeque, pizza, lasagna, and chicken cordon bleu as some of our main dishes. I loved our school cafeteria. Freakin' loved it. Poor kids today. >_<
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at September 25, 2012 08:05 AM (rU+K8)
Posted by: qrstuv at September 25, 2012 08:05 AM (m3Xia)
Posted by: WalrusRex
The Reagan administration was a devil for calling ketchup a vegetable. V8 says you get a two full servings of vegetables in a glass of their juice? No problem.
Posted by: Dang© at September 25, 2012 08:05 AM (R18D0)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 25, 2012 12:02 PM (e0xKF)
No, it is never reasonable to usurp the parents. If I want to feed my kid HoHos and Coke, it isn't the government's problem or business.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 25, 2012 08:06 AM (2b4yb)
Posted by: cajun carrot at September 25, 2012 11:46 AM (UZQM
So when is The Magical Negro going to pass out his little books for everyone to read before lunch?
Posted by: Zombie Mao at September 25, 2012 08:06 AM (wR+pz)
850 calories for a high school kid is insane.
Here's another bit of insanity, putting aside obesity, high school kids are not the same size and have different nutritional needs. A 13 year old girl is usually smaller than an 18 year old boy.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at September 25, 2012 08:06 AM (WvXvd)
Posted by: Y-not at September 25, 2012 08:06 AM (5H6zj)
And what does fire do when it burns? It makes things black, right? Black. Let that sink in for a minute.
We understand what you're doing here, Ace, and this is obviously just another racist dogwhistle from a party obsessed with race.
Posted by: Chris Matthews at September 25, 2012 08:06 AM (5Rurq)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at September 25, 2012 08:06 AM (xAtAj)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2012 08:06 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: Truth Teller at September 25, 2012 08:06 AM (CX71c)
Posted by: dogfish at September 25, 2012 08:06 AM (NuPNl)
More like fat and salt is not the enemy! There is NO difference in mortality for those eating salt and restricting salt. None.
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at September 25, 2012 12:04 PM (xAtAj)
I didn't say 'TOO much protein'.
Posted by: Tami at September 25, 2012 08:06 AM (X6akg)
You people just hate her because she is a wooman of collar !!!!!!!!! Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT and proud of it !!!!! at September 25, 2012 12:03 PM (48wze)
That's not true.
But I agree with you that she ought to be collared.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 25, 2012 08:07 AM (sbV1u)
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/revolt-over-school-lunches_653039.html
Posted by: TD at September 25, 2012 08:07 AM (DQMcq)
RT @bdomenech: In Ohio tomorrow, Mike Rowe will join Mitt Romney. http://vlt.tc/hev
The bad news: Rowe insists that Romney participate in helping him cleaning local septic tanks and artificially inseminating cows.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 25, 2012 08:07 AM (SY2Kh)
I'm pretty sure that's an intended consequence.
Then throws out lines like.. well you don't object to eating healthy do you?
Nobody objects to "eating healthy." Restricting kids to a breadstick and a cup of veggies (with 1 TBSP "lo-fat ranch dip"--you know they replace the fat with sugar and starch, right?) is not "healthy" for most children.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a Flaming Moe at September 25, 2012 08:07 AM (/kI1Q)
Whatever happened to that time honored, favorite, liberal slogan,
MY BODY, MY CHOICE!!!!!ELEVENTY!!!!!
Posted by: runningrn at September 25, 2012 08:07 AM (WGmy2)
School lunches? And school breakfasts. And summer break meals.
And subsidized meals for ALL family members...legal residents or not.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at September 25, 2012 08:07 AM (jtFP0)
Posted by: Y-not at September 25, 2012 08:07 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: George Orwell at September 25, 2012 08:08 AM (AZGON)
How the fuck do you expect kids to live through a period of weightlifting and then a 2-3 hour practice after school on an 850-calorie lunch?
I burn 850 calories a day just trying to hide my erections!?
Posted by: High School Boy at September 25, 2012 08:08 AM (4LA+T)
Who the fuck are they to look at my kids lunch? Is this the fucking Soviet Union?
They tried to tell my kid that leftover macaroni and meatballs was not a healthy choice. I called them up and said if you ever examine my kids lunch and make snide comments again they would never find your body.
Posted by: Exile at September 25, 2012 08:08 AM (GGCsk)
Put butter and mustard on plain burgers-- no buns.
Down 20 lbs since July without once feeling hungry.
Carbs and sugar are probably the worst for you. I did the low carb diet. Never hungry because you can eat meat and cheese, protein, and it keeps you full. Lost 110 pounds. Sorry to say I fell off the wagon somewhat and gained some weight back, but I still try to restrict carbs. As an aside blood pressure and cholesterol went down significantly..
Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 25, 2012 08:08 AM (W2Z3C)
So you believe in censorship? How about corporal punishment for those who disparage the prophet?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 25, 2012 08:09 AM (2b4yb)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 25, 2012 08:09 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Y-not at September 25, 2012 08:09 AM (5H6zj)
London
http://tinyurl.com/dh2j3k
North Carolina
http://tinyurl.com/834lqeg
Chicago
http://tinyurl.com/3vf364k
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 25, 2012 08:09 AM (TIIx5)
Too much protein can easily be an enemy.
Funny you should say that, I have packed on some lbs. the last 4 years...
Posted by: Chris Matthews, Who Swallows at September 25, 2012 08:09 AM (WGmy2)
Posted by: Will Never Vote For a dhimmocrat at September 25, 2012 08:09 AM (kXoT0)
Wrestlers are fags.
Posted by: Swimmers rock! at September 25, 2012 08:10 AM (2b4yb)
Yep. It was like sitting at an intersection waiting for the freight train to pass. You watch it go by and go by and keep wondering "when will it end?"
Posted by: NC Ref at September 25, 2012 08:10 AM (dVJLS)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2012 08:10 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: jewells45 says Romney wins in a landslide at September 25, 2012 08:10 AM (l/N7H)
Posted by: I Be That Chick at September 25, 2012 08:10 AM (lAMRW)
Posted by: Max Power at September 25, 2012 08:10 AM (+wxCD)
Posted by: Golan Globus at September 25, 2012 08:10 AM (7vSU0)
Posted by: ErikW at September 25, 2012 08:10 AM (ftdHA)
Screw the calorie restrictions, period. It's ridiculous. when I was in school back in the 80s and 90s, portion control was restricted to "you can only take one of anything with your meal plan. Any more you have to pay extra." That was about it.
Hungry kids in school -- even fat kids who need to go on a diet -- is bad. Hunger makes it harder to concentrate, so have fun taking that math exam during last block, Sally!
Lack of concentration also leads to being easily distracted. You're not going to learn much Spanish if you're staring out the window at a bird making its nest on the ledge instead of listening to the teacher.
Distractedness leads to disruption. How many times is that Spanish teacher going to have to stop the class to tell kids to pay attention? How many times is the math teacher going to have to go back and re-cover areas that students did poorly in on their exams, because the hungry kids couldn't focus on the test?
And make no mistake -- if kids aren't getting the food they want and/or need in school, they'll get it elsewhere. They'll smuggle in junk food, or even non-junk food but in bigger portions. Eating a Twinkie will be the modern equivalent of smoking in the boy's room. "I hear plastic wrappers crinkling in here! Who's got the Little Debbie snack cakes?"
Kids will be swapping money on the playground in exchange for tuna fish sandwiches on rye with bits of pickle. A BLT with plenty of bacon and mayo will fetch a small fortune.
At breakfast, kids will gorge themselves on sugary cereals, pop tarts, bagels, what have you, because they know otherwise they'll be hungry by the end of the day. Instead of spreading their caloric intake through the day, they'll frontload it. Then they'll go sit in class all morning, inactive; or they'll go to phys ed with a stomach stuffed with crap and end up sick with cramps.
This is just a stupid policy from top to bottom, inside and out.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at September 25, 2012 08:11 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Zombie Joe Stalin at September 25, 2012 08:11 AM (wR+pz)
Childhood obesity would be halfway to "solved" if schools simply switched out skim milk for whole milk. The extra calories would do a better job keeping them away from junk food.
You can't fight biology. Hunger will trump nearly everything else.
Posted by: Gabriel Syme at September 25, 2012 08:11 AM (g84Si)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular! With Full Stomping Power! at September 25, 2012 08:11 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Redd at September 25, 2012 08:11 AM (guxHP)
Hey, they've legislated changes to the laws of thermodynamics with standards for appliances and lighting and cars, so why not for children's bodies as well?
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a Flaming Moe at September 25, 2012 08:11 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 25, 2012 08:12 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2012 08:12 AM (X3lox)
---
Yeah, back when you could own a slave.
Posted by: WalrusRex at September 25, 2012 08:13 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: George Orwell at September 25, 2012 08:13 AM (AZGON)
And Huck appears to have regained every pound since 2008.
I think it was Haley Barbour who said if a heavy fella suddenly started losing lots of weight, he either has terminal cancer or is beginning a run for president.
Posted by: angler at September 25, 2012 08:13 AM (SwjAj)
Posted by: Max Power at September 25, 2012 08:13 AM (+wxCD)
Yes, I believe in corporal punishment for anyone who worships the prophet.
Oh.
You said "disparage."
Never mind.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 25, 2012 08:13 AM (sbV1u)
I wrote it off as "tin foil hat" stuff back then, but now I'm not so sure...
Posted by: Nighthawk at September 25, 2012 08:13 AM (RSqz2)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2012 08:13 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: mossomo at September 25, 2012 08:14 AM (C1/0D)
Saving money in the education budget for teachers' pension funds?
Suggesting that parents pack extra calories for their tykes is a tell, so - follow the money.
Posted by: mrp at September 25, 2012 08:14 AM (HjPtV)
The bad news: Rowe insists that Romney participate in helping him cleaning local septic tanks and artificially inseminating cows.
That's fine. I do draw the line at castrating the lambs, though!
Posted by: Mitt Romeny at September 25, 2012 08:14 AM (WGmy2)
Posted by: Golan Globus at September 25, 2012 08:14 AM (7vSU0)
Um...I'm making fun of you.
You were completely off base yesterday, and apparently it hasn't gotten any better.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 25, 2012 08:14 AM (2b4yb)
How did that go? The school ran out of food in 20 minutes and 2/3 of the students didn't get lunch.
That was the last time we heard anything about leaving school for lunch.
And early lesson in sticking it to the man.
Posted by: Billy Bob, the 1% at September 25, 2012 08:14 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: eastvalleyphx says fuck islam at September 25, 2012 08:15 AM (GRvW4)
Thank you so much for your valuable insight. We are all the wiser for it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 25, 2012 08:15 AM (2b4yb)
Response by #47 said in spades. The Fed government's position should be no position.
Posted by: dogfish at September 25, 2012 08:15 AM (NuPNl)
So...if you criticize Islam you are being violent?
http://tinyurl.com/9ectujk
Posted by: edj at September 25, 2012 08:15 AM (+QKfp)
We got to have seconds in elementary school after everyone had gone through the line, because they were just going to throw it away anyway. But you had to eat the vegetables (or dump them on someone else's plate when no one was looking) to get a second helping of anything, because that was "proof" you were actually hungry and not just trying to gorge on kolaches.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a Flaming Moe at September 25, 2012 08:15 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: obi wan soothsayer at September 25, 2012 08:15 AM (OA1Yc)
Posted by: chuck in st paul at September 25, 2012 08:15 AM (EhYdw)
I wrote it off as "tin foil hat" stuff back then, but now I'm not so sure...
Posted by: Nighthawk at September 25, 2012 12:13 PM (RSqz2)
Not to worry.....all the soy products in food today is doing that anyway. It depresses testosterone production.
Soy....the greatest fraud perpetrated on the American public since.....well, ever.
Posted by: Tami at September 25, 2012 08:16 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: George Orwell at September 25, 2012 08:16 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2012 08:16 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: Billy Bob, psuedo intellectual at September 25, 2012 08:16 AM (wR+pz)
@127
If a kid is getting too big I think it's the parent who needs to get out and run with the kids. I'm opposed to "fat runs" around school all day while the other kids point and laugh or something. Though it worked for offensive linemen trying to shed 20 pounds.
Posted by: Beagle at September 25, 2012 08:16 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: joeindc44 will vote Obama based on a D+20 internal poll at September 25, 2012 08:17 AM (QxSug)
Posted by: Young River Tam at September 25, 2012 08:17 AM (4I3Uo)
MY BODY, MY CHOICE!!!!!ELEVENTY!!!!!
We're happy to allow you to make any choice you like from the Government Approved list.
For instance, you can choose between organic broccoli or organic spinach for lunch. We'll even allow you to pick between riding the bus, riding the train, or (if you must) driving to work in a Volt.
See? We're all about freedom to choose.
Posted by: Liberals at September 25, 2012 08:17 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Warden at September 25, 2012 08:17 AM (0DlnM)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 25, 2012 08:17 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Redd at September 25, 2012 08:18 AM (guxHP)
So according to HHS:
African American women have the highest rates of being overweight or obese compared to other groups in the U.S. About four out of five African American women are overweight or obese. In 2010, African Americans were 1.4 times as likely to be obese as Non- Hispanic Whites. In 2010, African American women were 70% more likely to be obese than Non-Hispanic White women. In 2007-2010, African American girls were 80% more likely to be overweight than Non-Hispanic White girls.
So if you ask me, the whole obesity thing is mostly a problem in the African American community, specifically in the female population. But pointing this out is probably, I don't know, racist.
I denounce myself!
Posted by: runningrn at September 25, 2012 08:18 AM (WGmy2)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at September 25, 2012 08:18 AM (P6H+d)
Posted by: runninrebel at September 25, 2012 12:00 PM (N/1Dm)
Who's laughing now?
Posted by: Jonathan Swift at September 25, 2012 08:18 AM (Kkt/i)
He lost it with a strict and experimental program at the state university in coordination with the chef in the governor's mansion.
When he went back to normal life, he went back to normal size. Big shocker.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a Flaming Moe at September 25, 2012 08:18 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, what did huma abedin know? at September 25, 2012 12:05 PM (Ho2rs)
Everyone needs lipids for proper metabolism.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at September 25, 2012 08:19 AM (jtFP0)
Fasting will cause your body to store fat.
Yup, your body goes into starvation mode. Your body is a furnace. You don't give it fuel, it shuts down.
Posted by: runningrn at September 25, 2012 08:20 AM (WGmy2)
Posted by: ErikW at September 25, 2012 08:20 AM (ftdHA)
This is what happens when five dolts in a room in Washington decide what's best for 300 MILLION people.
Up next: You have too many clothes and everyone gets one television that shows nothing but Lifetime movies.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 25, 2012 08:20 AM (B+qrE)
Why, yes it is, you fucking racist cracker dating a girl without an ass.
Posted by: Mochelle at September 25, 2012 08:20 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: RWC at September 25, 2012 08:20 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at September 25, 2012 08:20 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 25, 2012 08:20 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: UGAdawg at September 25, 2012 08:21 AM (osx1V)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 25, 2012 08:21 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: Grey Fox at September 25, 2012 12:01 PM (3XBCj)
If any of these people try that with my boy (or future offspring), there will be some ass-raping going on. And I am talking rape-rape here.
Or I might just send him to school with "lunch" and "dinner" clearly marked in two separate bags. Game on, bitches.
Posted by: Flounder at September 25, 2012 08:21 AM (Kkt/i)
Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2012 11:59 AM (YdQQY)
Unfortunately, many states don't give schools the option to opt out.
Posted by: CJ at September 25, 2012 08:21 AM (9KqcB)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 25, 2012 08:21 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: joeindc44 will vote Obama based on a D+20 internal poll at September 25, 2012 08:21 AM (QxSug)
Posted by: Golan Globus at September 25, 2012 08:21 AM (7vSU0)
Posted by: Chris M at September 25, 2012 08:21 AM (b3vSq)
BTW, if some athletic students can bring extra food, so can the fat kids. Their parents have obviously decided to let them eat what they want anyway. What they are hungry from school and then binge when they get home? That helps.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 25, 2012 08:22 AM (PHb2k)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 25, 2012 08:22 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: joeindc44 will vote Obama based on a D+20 internal poll at September 25, 2012 08:23 AM (QxSug)
@227
Los Angeles City Council member Jan Perry rammed through a ban on building new fast food restaurants in South Central Los Angeles a few years ago. She claimed that it was the fast food restaurants' fault that obesity was all the rage in the Black community. Um...no. I'm a black female and my ass isn't fat...never has been. This is due to the welfare crap. Easy lifestyle at someone elses expense. By the way, Jan Perry's ass is the size of Moochelle's. And now I denounce myself as both racist and an Uncle Tom/ette ten different ways to Sunday.
Posted by: I Be That Chick at September 25, 2012 08:23 AM (lAMRW)
Posted by: Golan Globus at September 25, 2012 08:23 AM (7vSU0)
Posted by: maddogg at September 25, 2012 08:24 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: WalrusRex at September 25, 2012 08:24 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: kalel666 at September 25, 2012 08:24 AM (8WPsB)
Posted by: George Orwell at September 25, 2012 08:24 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: joeindc44 will vote Obama based on a D+20 internal poll at September 25, 2012 08:25 AM (QxSug)
Posted by: Countrysquire at September 25, 2012 08:25 AM (1hLHC)
Posted by: sydney jane at September 25, 2012 08:25 AM (zYWPO)
How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?
Posted by: Uncle Milty at September 25, 2012 08:25 AM (8J5Ck)
Posted by: Fat Fucking Parasitic Bitch at September 25, 2012 08:26 AM (fWAjv)
Same here in SC.
BTW, went to USDA website for school lunch regulations. Every time I clicked on it it locked up my computer.
Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2012 08:26 AM (YdQQY)
Student: What fucking meat?
Posted by: Countrysquire at September 25, 2012 12:25 PM (1hLHC)
Damn, just beat me to it! That's all I can think of with this.
Posted by: Uncle Milty at September 25, 2012 08:26 AM (8J5Ck)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, what did huma abedin know? at September 25, 2012 08:26 AM (Ho2rs)
What's the matter with these kids?
Posted by: kbdabear at September 25, 2012 08:26 AM (wwsoB)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2012 08:27 AM (X3lox)
@260
My kid's school sent home a single mini Snickers I included in his lunch as contraband. So not sure how long that solution is viable.
Posted by: Beagle at September 25, 2012 08:27 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, what did huma abedin know? at September 25, 2012 08:28 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: Fat Fucking Parasitic Bitch at September 25, 2012 08:28 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: ErikW at September 25, 2012 08:28 AM (ftdHA)
@258
In Irvine, California the same thing was about to be tried and the parents revolted. Of course, Irvine is a planned community, but the parents just didn't understand why kids should be getting free lunches. The natural recipients were of the Latino persuasion.
Posted by: I Be That Chick at September 25, 2012 08:28 AM (lAMRW)
Posted by: George Orwell at September 25, 2012 08:28 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, what did huma abedin know? at September 25, 2012 08:28 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: RWC at September 25, 2012 08:28 AM (fWAjv)
The teachers themselves have to do the serving. Excellent use of teacher time, don't you think?
When I was in school, right up through middle school, we weren't even allowed in the BUILDING until five minutes before the bell rang. That only changed if there was a raging blizzard outside, or if the temps were dangerously low (like, subzero). The teachers didn't want us underfoot as they got ready for the day, so the doors stayed locked. It pissed me off then and now, because even as a kid I knew the teachers were mostly just bitching to each other about the shitty days theyw ere going to have (I had a number of burned out Union teachers in my day, especially in middle school). But if that was back in the late 80s/early 90s in rural NH, I can only imagine how much LESS the teachers want to deal with kids TODAY.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at September 25, 2012 08:29 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Up with people! at September 25, 2012 08:29 AM (kzFo5)
Posted by: I Be That Chick at September 25, 2012 12:23 PM
I'm betting that Perry doesn't think that the no questions asked EBT cards have anything to do with that
Posted by: kbdabear at September 25, 2012 08:29 AM (wwsoB)
I think that explains a LOT about vegetarians and vegans, many of which eat soy replacements for meat and/or dairy. Sorry. It had better be red, dead, & corn fed. Or you will have one very P.O.'ed Texan. And you don't want a very P.O.'ed Texan. Because it isn't just one. We tend to come in bunches.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 25, 2012 08:29 AM (zji3t)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 25, 2012 08:30 AM (vaKm1)
Posted by: Francis at September 25, 2012 08:30 AM (7/lMx)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 25, 2012 12:06 PM (2b4yb)
This.
Posted by: Flounder at September 25, 2012 08:30 AM (Kkt/i)
Posted by: Lizzy at September 25, 2012 08:30 AM (XDfSm)
So you believe in censorship? How about corporal punishment for those who disparage the prophet?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 25, 2012 12:09 PM (2b4yb)
How about corporal punishment for 2 hours and worship the prophet for 14, instead of the other way around.
Posted by: Manly masculine men on the Raging Queen at September 25, 2012 08:30 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: George Orwell at September 25, 2012 08:30 AM (AZGON)
@280
She is such a pathetic excuse of a person. And I am sooo tired of our mayor, Anthony (We clean your toilets) VilLaRaza.
Posted by: I Be That Chick at September 25, 2012 08:30 AM (lAMRW)
Posted by: sydney jane at September 25, 2012 12:25 PM (zYWPO)
He tried but it created such an uproar among farm States like Iowa he had to eat it.
Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2012 08:31 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: maddogg at September 25, 2012 08:31 AM (OlN4e)
Bastards! I can't believe they're going to force my hand into voting for Romney. But I cannot bring myself to vote for someone who is so demonstrably anti-portion. Woe is me.
Posted by: David Frum at September 25, 2012 08:31 AM (8J5Ck)
Posted by: ErikW at September 25, 2012 08:31 AM (ftdHA)
Posted by: Young River Tam at September 25, 2012 12:17 PM (4I3Uo)
Hmmm.... does Bill Ayers (Phd. Edu) have blue-gloved hands?
Posted by: mrp at September 25, 2012 08:32 AM (HjPtV)
Posted by: Voluble at September 25, 2012 08:32 AM (qYvEa)
"Starved people cannot be taught democracy. To talk about the will of the people when you aren't feeding them is perfect hogwash." - Ancel Keys, reporting the results of his "Great Starvation Experiment", 1950
A fascinating read about experimentation done at the end of WWII to figure out how to feed a starving Europe without killing her people - researchers 1st had to starve volunteers in order to figure out what would work best.
The starvation experiment garnered amazing (and appalling) discoveries - Keys wanted to stop the experiment because of the toll that it was taking on his healthy subjects.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at September 25, 2012 08:32 AM (P6H+d)
"To encourage healthful eating, Chicago school doesn't allow kids to bring lunches or certain snacks from home — and some parents, and many students, aren't fans of the policy"
http://tinyurl.com/3vf364k
Posted by: Buzzsaw at September 25, 2012 08:32 AM (tf9Ne)
It's only going to get worse unless the feral gubmint's power is pruned back.
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 25, 2012 08:32 AM (ccXZP)
Posted by: joeindc44 will vote Obama based on a D+20 internal poll at September 25, 2012 08:33 AM (QxSug)
Then throws out lines like.. well you don't object
to eating healthy do you? God, I love her to death but I do wonder about
her sometimes.
Posted by: jewells45 says Romney wins in a landslide at September 25, 2012 11:59 AM (l/N7H)
You need to tell her that what they're serving is only 'healthy' in the mind of a gov't. bureaucrat.
Calorie restriction backfires big time....and PROTEIN AND SALT ARE NOT THE ENEMY!
Posted by: Tami at September 25, 2012 12:02 PM (X6akg)
Healthy food, non-healthy food......in either case it's irrelevant. The proper way to examine any government mandate/rule/regulation/law is to decide if it's proper to put a gun to someone's head to enforce it. Because in EVERY case, that's the ultimate enforcement mechanism.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 25, 2012 08:33 AM (TIIx5)
Once upon a time there was RECESS and gym class with physical exertion. But lawyers and helicopter parents are so worried they'll get a boo-boo that the schools keep them locked up all day. If little Justin gets antsy? Dope him up with Ritalin because the poor overworked and underpaid teachers can't deal with a squirmy 9 year old
Posted by: kbdabear at September 25, 2012 08:33 AM (wwsoB)
Posted by: Pimp with a limp at September 25, 2012 08:33 AM (x7g7t)
Posted by: RWC at September 25, 2012 08:33 AM (fWAjv)
@276
I'm being totally polite until they teach my kid about politics or the concept of "race". Then I'm going to get pissed.
Posted by: Beagle at September 25, 2012 08:33 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: qrstuv at September 25, 2012 08:34 AM (m3Xia)
I denounce myself!
It's more prevalent among black women, but it's certainly not limited to African Americans. It's everywhere, and not just in the US.
I blame processed food and lower activity levels. 30 years ago I grew up on mashed potatoes, meatloaf, fried breaded meat, all covered with butter. Everybody did. Yet, we were all thinner. Processed food was TV dinners that were looked down upon.
Now you go to the store, and it's all microwave this, instant boxed that. I'm guilty as anybody with regards to crap food and lack of exercise, and definitely feel the difference.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 25, 2012 08:34 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Tim the Enchanter at September 25, 2012 08:35 AM (izA2D)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 25, 2012 08:35 AM (WXoUE)
Posted by: I Be That Chick at September 25, 2012 12:32 PM (lAMRW)
*making beckoning motions* Come to New Hampshire. Cooome to New Haaampshiiire...
We need more sane people to move here to beat back the loonies from MA and VT.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at September 25, 2012 08:35 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Oliver Twist at September 25, 2012 08:35 AM (FxBCF)
Posted by: maddogg at September 25, 2012 08:35 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Pimp with a limp at September 25, 2012 08:36 AM (x7g7t)
@301
This 1000 times! I remember looking forward to recess and gym class in elementary school. I don't really recall obese classmates either. I also remember always being outside, especially in the summer. Nowadays these kids want to stay glued to the tv or video games. We weren't allowed to do that.
Posted by: I Be That Chick at September 25, 2012 08:36 AM (lAMRW)
Posted by: no good deed at September 25, 2012 08:37 AM (mjR67)
Mountain Dew is OK to sub for the coke, as well.
An MD and a Slim Jim were my breakfast for my senior year of high school.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 25, 2012 08:37 AM (B+qrE)
One wonders why they even need a SNAP card.
Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2012 08:37 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2012 12:37 PM (YdQQY)
How else would they buy their lobster and t-bones?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at September 25, 2012 08:38 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at September 25, 2012 08:39 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: RWC at September 25, 2012 08:39 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Golan Globus at September 25, 2012 08:39 AM (7vSU0)
Posted by: Up with people! at September 25, 2012 08:40 AM (kzFo5)
Posted by: George Orwell at September 25, 2012 08:40 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: joeindc44 will vote Obama based on a D+20 internal poll at September 25, 2012 08:41 AM (QxSug)
Want to encourage kids to eat crappy food outside of school? Limit what they can eat inside of school. Once again, the laws of unintended consequences cease to exist in Liberal land.
Posted by: Uncle Milty at September 25, 2012 08:41 AM (8J5Ck)
There's an easy way out of this, of course. They could just permit extra portions to any athletes or anyone whose parents sign a form stating they work in the morning and need extra calories.
thats your 'easy' way out of it?? how 'bout the feds stay the fuck out of what local schools put on the menu? much easier huh?
Posted by: chas at September 25, 2012 08:42 AM (TKF1Y)
An MD and a Slim Jim were my breakfast for my senior year of high school.
Warmed up Honey Bun and a Double Cola here. Lunch was fast food. Of course, this was back in the '70's.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 25, 2012 08:42 AM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Up with people! at September 25, 2012 08:43 AM (kzFo5)
I don't have a strong position on the whole Paleo-Jihad thing, nor do I find that carbohydrates are the debil.
But I will say that demonizing salt is total BS. There is no solid evidence that salt is bad for you, and a lot of those people with heart disease who gave up salt ended up with no change or becoming worse. It was a total snipe hunt. Completely ficticious health concern. The evil "sodium" is not bad for you.
Posted by: entropy at September 25, 2012 08:44 AM (TULs6)
Posted by: ErikW at September 25, 2012 08:44 AM (ftdHA)
But not anymore, instead we have the NFL Play60 bus so volunteers can spend stimulus money running a football and making shitty videos for the glorification of TFG
Posted by: kbdabear at September 25, 2012 08:44 AM (wwsoB)
BTW the Republican House passed the last Childhood Hunger Act in 2010.
It got very little news.
Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2012 08:45 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: ErikW at September 25, 2012 08:46 AM (ftdHA)
Posted by: Up with people! at September 25, 2012 08:46 AM (kzFo5)
Posted by: trailortrash at September 25, 2012 08:47 AM (xllDV)
I loved that study a couple of years back that said that the majority of kids went to bed hungry.
Well no shit Sherlock. Anybody who's ever had a kid knows they do three things very well: eat, sleep, and play. BBSquared's favorite toy was the fridge. I don't think he got full until he was around 20 years old.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 25, 2012 08:47 AM (d0Tfm)
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Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2012 08:50 AM (X3lox)
Remember the firestorm during the Regan years when catsup was classified as a vegetable?
Now were going to intentionally starve kids. I guess its all about good intentions.
Posted by: Daniel Simpson Day at September 25, 2012 08:50 AM (aA2hG)
Posted by: Mandy P., long time lurker at September 25, 2012 08:51 AM (qFpRI)
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Posted by: Mindy at September 25, 2012 08:53 AM (CC6tc)
That would be very difficult since Barky signed the legislation on Dec 13, 2010 and the GOP didn't take over the House until 2011.
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Wrote by a Senate dem, no co sponsors, passed both dem houses in record time, almost as if they didn't read past the title. During a lame duck session.
Posted by: Up with people! at September 25, 2012 08:53 AM (kzFo5)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 46% more DOOM! at September 25, 2012 08:53 AM (MrM2k)
- U.S. Senator Bill Frist (R-TN)
Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2012 08:53 AM (YdQQY)
you may be in an area where what parents pack in their kids' lunches isn't inspected/rejected...so far so good so no worries, eh?
or you may have younger kids that are scared to come home and complain...
Posted by: eurw at September 25, 2012 08:55 AM (WNUxa)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at September 25, 2012 08:56 AM (mjR67)
Lib friends? Hell, I told my mom and my sister if I find out they voted for SCOAMF they're dead to me.
Life's too short to break bread with retards.
Posted by: Lemmenkainen at September 25, 2012 08:56 AM (K1JW0)
Remember the firestorm during the Regan years when catsup was classified as a vegetable?
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that was reagan? thought it was the sec under clinton that found himself dead in a helicopter crash (90's kid, here)
Posted by: eurw at September 25, 2012 08:57 AM (WNUxa)
Mew
Posted by: acat at September 25, 2012 08:57 AM (4UkCP)
I guess we'll need more food stamps to keep them fed - be sure to vote Obama, because those evil Republicans want to cut school lunches or something!
And what about (the quickly growing number of) kids who bring their own lunch? Are the teachers going to search each one and throw half the food away?
Posted by: Norcross at September 25, 2012 08:58 AM (4EA5K)
Are the teachers going to search each one and throw half the food away?
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shovel ready jobs?
Posted by: eurw at September 25, 2012 09:00 AM (WNUxa)
Posted by: SFGoth at September 25, 2012 09:02 AM (dZ756)
Re peanut allergies increasing in frequency, I've heard that it may be because of pregnant women eating large quantities of peanut butter after being told to eat lots of protein.
(anecdote: only known one kid with a peanut allergy and yep, his mom said she did eat a lot of p.b. while preggers)
If that's the case, hopefully OB's are now warning women not to eat loads of it and the numbers of kids with that allergy will go back down.
Posted by: Mama AJ at September 25, 2012 09:02 AM (SUKHu)
No, it is never reasonable to usurp the parents. If I want to feed my kid HoHos and Coke, it isn't the government's problem or business.
Your problem was feeding your kid. The reason for the scope of the federal school lunch program is that some parents won't feed their kids, but we don't want to stigmatize those kids, so the program is open to all kids, (reduced price), even the ones who don't need it.
The program began as a way to 1. Feed truly need children and 2. subsidize agriculture (this might be #1).
Now it's used to feed children who's parent(s) can't feed them, but can afford cable, DVRs and better cellphones that us.
Posted by: CJ at September 25, 2012 09:05 AM (9KqcB)
Posted by: lonestar at September 25, 2012 09:07 AM (lhZle)
You Pathetic Load of Communal Horse Cum are experts not only on foreign policy, but on childhood nutrition, too.
Well at least I don't go around telling people how much they ought to weigh. Hows that for regulation? Overweight kids?
I can't wait until they start fining by the pound.
Posted by: entropy at September 25, 2012 09:07 AM (TULs6)
If thats the reason why aren't a lot of kids allergic to ice cream/milk then?
Posted by: Buzzsaw at September 25, 2012 09:08 AM (tf9Ne)
"kids go to bed hungry"
The ones who figured out hunger is a really good way to try to stretch bed time past 9 on a school night. See, my allergies are the bubonic plague.
But seriously, I'm in favor of kids being fed and less EBT cards in strip clubs.
Posted by: Beagle at September 25, 2012 09:12 AM (sOtz/)
The reason for the scope of the federal school lunch program is that some parents won't feed their kids
That was a red herring. Parents don't feed those overweight kids? "Poor" kids are more likely to be overweight, you know. Must have gotten food somewhere.
Oh, is there some emaciated starving little beggar with a swollen stomach showing up at school? Then WTF is DCFS doing and why haven't we fired them all? Chronically not feeding children is potentially criminal. If mommy doesn't give him but 1 saltine cracker a day, the solution we need is not lunch at school, it's foster care with a competent and non-sadistic caretaker.
Posted by: entropy at September 25, 2012 09:12 AM (TULs6)
Posted by: liquidflorian at September 25, 2012 09:15 AM (Kx/oz)
I've struggled with my weight for as long as I can remember. When I had my little man, I was petrified that he was going to have weight issues so I took a proactive approach and didn't offer alternatives to what hubs and I ate for dinner. He eats just about everything. He doesn't like salad, raw tomatoes or raw onions. He ASKS for brussell sprouts and broccoli.
The thing is that while he was my Chunky McChunkster at ages 3-5, over this past summer he sprouted 2 inches and lost all of his chunkiness. He's thin and lean and eats like there's no tomorrow.
Who's responsibility is it to see to it that his nutritional needs are being met? Mine and only mine.
Posted by: Agent P at September 25, 2012 09:15 AM (fPmeR)
Posted by: Milesdei at September 25, 2012 09:16 AM (NnGzp)
This is practice for the full bore socialism that`s coming in the second term. The dead will be the lucky ones.
I hope the voters recognize this and In November, tell Mr. Obama to tell Mrs. Obama to shove it up her ass. After all, even stupid people get hungry.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at September 25, 2012 09:16 AM (VLifP)
Posted by: the Butcher at September 25, 2012 09:19 AM (8g9qq)
If thats the reason why aren't a lot of kids allergic to ice cream/milk then?
Well, baby mammals are meant to be fed dairy. Older children and adults often become lactose intolerant.
Most of the people I know who are lactose intolerant consume epic amounts of lactose anyway, which might have something to do with it. I've always said I don't think anyone is lactose intolerant in Somalia. Sola dosis facit venenum.
I don't drink much milk really, except a bit of cream in coffee. If I have 8 ounces, I'm fine. If I drink 18 ounces, I think I'm lactose intolerant. I think that's just what milk does if you drink way too much of it.
Posted by: entropy at September 25, 2012 09:20 AM (TULs6)
RT @bdomenech: In Ohio tomorrow, Mike Rowe will join Mitt Romney. http://vlt.tc/hev
The bad news: Rowe insists that Romney participate in helping him cleaning local septic tanks and artificially inseminating cows.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 25, 2012 12:07 PM (SY2Kh)
"And at the end of that crazy day, the Governor called me up to ask how things were going.
"Hectic", I said. "The workers were delayed, and now it's getting late and the septic tank's still backed up and none of the cows are pregnant"
"I'll get the boys" Romney promised."
Posted by: Weirddave at September 25, 2012 09:21 AM (aH+zP)
303And if you do bring lunch from home the next step will be to divvy it up between the 'less fortunate' kiddies.
Oh Jimmy, you brought Oreos? Little Billy only has those shitty Hydrox. Give 'em up junior!
Made me think of my daughter's first day at kindergarten over 20 years ago. We had packed her a wonderful lunch in her new Skipper lunchbox, which she was so proud of.
A couple hours later I get a call at work from the school: someone took her lunchbox and she had no lunch. Brought her a new lunch and spoke to the teacher. They were "looking into" who took her lunchbox.
The principal called us that night; they were pretty sure who had taken it, and they would be talking to the child first thing in the morning when she got there.
I went early to the school with my daughter the next day. The principal was waiting for the thief's bus; and brought the little girl into the office.
She readily admitted she took the lunchbox, but only because my daughter had such a nice one, and she had an ugly one, and her parents couldn't afford to buy her a nice one like that. Then she started crying.
The principal started patting her on the back and told her, "Oh, it's okay, honey."
I said very loudly, "NO, it's NOT okay. That's how life is. We don't take what's not ours just because we don't like what we have. Doesn't anyone actually care that my daughter got traumatized her first day of school, or that stealing is wrong?"
A little socialist, and her enabler. Nothing was done about it, other than she got a talking to and some sympathy for her home situation. As far as I know, her parents weren't even called.
My first experience with public school. And my last. It was a good lesson for my daughter.
She had been on a waiting list for a Catholic school. I called the next day and didn't let up until she got admitted.
But before my daughter left the public school, the little thief pushed the bathroom door into her face, and my daughter came home with a big bruise on her cheek. The brat called it an accident, and the teacher accepted it.
Yes, the the thief was a minority, and yes, she got away with it all.
Posted by: Marybeth at September 25, 2012 09:23 AM (Ks0w4)
If mommy doesn't give him but 1 saltine cracker a day, the solution we need is not lunch at school, it's foster care with a competent and non-sadistic caretaker.Posted by: entropy at September 25, 2012 01:12 PM (TULs6)
Mommy's just splitting parental duties with Daddy - which is you and me.
Posted by: CJ at September 25, 2012 09:24 AM (9KqcB)
Posted by: small town girl at September 25, 2012 09:25 AM (8bflM)
Posted by: CJ at September 25, 2012 01:05 PM (9KqcB)
Don't know if you know this, but now the government will buy them the cell phone, too (at least in WA). Check out assurance wireless free cell phone, eligible if you are on SNAP or other public assistance. I was blown away.
Posted by: Flounder at September 25, 2012 09:28 AM (Kkt/i)
Posted by: Sasha and Malia eatin' good at September 25, 2012 09:30 AM (fWAjv)
OK, I'm going to ask a really stupid question: Why in the name of all that's sane is the federal government managing what all kids around the country eat for lunch?
I've flipped through my copy of the Constitution, and I don't see "children's lunch management" among the enumerated power - though, granted, I don't have the amended Democratic Party version, which includes all of the penumbras and emanations. But still: People, it's *lunch*.
Posted by: Brown Line at September 25, 2012 09:33 AM (VrNoa)
I realize I'm getting in on this late but, you know, job. Anyhoo,
Low calorie school lunches won't fix most fat kids. Wanna know why? Go to the local grocery store and take a look at their momma's shopping carts. Pop, pizza, pre-prepared foods, chips, Little Debbie-type snacks, etc. Yeah, I know some of it's genetics. But funny that most families that are genetically fat, have lousy eating habits.
Posted by: katya the designated driver at September 25, 2012 09:36 AM (DoZD+)
They do that here with school supplies. Every student is sent home with a note saying what they need to bring at the beginning of the year.
They then put it all in a box and it is divided up equally so that the ones who did not bring any will not be "embarrassed".
Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2012 09:40 AM (YdQQY)
The courts have ruled that is you take the money you take the rules. After all, its a tax.
Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2012 09:41 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: ejo at September 25, 2012 09:43 AM (wggd/)
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Posted by: Lee Reynolds at September 25, 2012 09:45 AM (rJMw2)
Posted by: Fritz at September 25, 2012 09:50 AM (/ZZCn)
As I like to say, I read it 'thirty pounds ago' - he makes a good case for his views, and is currently working to get some nutrition research done that could shed some real light on what makes up a good diet.
It does cast a LOT of doubt on current conventional wisdom - including that which is informing this travesty of a school lunch policy.
[He previously wrote a more technical book called "Good Calories, Bad Calories", which is good if you want the extra biochemistry and extensive references.]
Posted by: Parker at September 25, 2012 09:52 AM (YkW3i)
Looks like insurance companies are getting on the bandwagon, as well:
"Humana announced a new partnership with Wal-Mart on Wednesday that will give the more than 1 million members of its wellness program, HumanaVitality, a 5 percent discount on healthy groceries."
Posted by: speedster1 at September 25, 2012 09:55 AM (v40Bj)
They then put it all in a box and it is divided up equally so that the ones who did not bring any will not be "embarrassed".
Now, that just ticks me off. You wanna know how I could afford to buy supplies for 3 children on nothing but a preacher's salary? I got the list asap then I bought a little bit each time I went shopping. I'm equally enraged by enablers and the enabled.
Posted by: katya the designated driver at September 25, 2012 10:03 AM (DoZD+)
Since the school is feeding them they should be able to use their SNAP card to buy those suppliers. But then they would have to do without their cigarettes and wine.
Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2012 10:22 AM (YdQQY)
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Posted by: Mr Wonderful at September 25, 2012 11:48 AM (lD8ju)
At my daughter's school, you are required to take a fruit or vegetable even if you don't eat them. We told our daughter to give hers to one of her classmates that eats them. There's a rule that you can't share food with your classmates. (she's skinny as a rail).
Posted by: ejo at September 25, 2012 12:02 PM (Bmz/O)
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Posted by: Angrybell at September 25, 2012 12:31 PM (PjuZY)
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If they were to do this, most parents of fat kids would sign them up for more food. But really, gov't should butt out of decisions about what kids eat.
Somebody should put up a web page filled with pictures of Michelle (and Barry) stuffing her face with all sorts of foods she prohibits for kids. What a hypocrite. And it's not even like she's svelte or anything.
Posted by: Mayday at September 25, 2012 12:40 PM (F3s39)
I now have catastrophic coverage with a $5,000 deductible.
Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2012 01:07 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: simpleton at September 25, 2012 02:11 PM (za3QZ)
I disagree with Taubes on some stuff, but overall, I´d say his stuff is well worth a read. The case for most nutrition-related science being in effect bogus is strong. Also, his history of nutrition policy is very interesting (especially for conservatives):
"Like the flourishing American affinity for alternative medicine, an antifat movement evolved independently of science in the 1960s. It was fed by distrust of the establishment--in this case, both the medical establishment and the food industry--and by counterculture attacks on excessive consumption, whether manifested in gas-guzzling cars or the classic American cuisine of bacon and eggs and marbled steaks.
And while the data on fat and health remained ambiguous and the scientific community polarized, the deadlock was broken not by any new science, but by politicians. It was Senator George McGovern's bipartisan, nonlegislative Select Committee on Nutrition and Human Needs--and, to be precise, a handful of McGovern's staff members--that almost single-handedly changed nutritional policy in this country and initiated the process of turning the dietary fat hypothesis into dogma."
You can always trust the "Counterculture" and George McGovern to create good stuff, no? Like the American / Worldwide anti-fat fad / obesity epidemic... And Michelle's new lunch program. Is there anything that Liberalism cannot do?
Posted by: Okes at September 25, 2012 11:30 PM (JNhC3)
I need 3000 calories a day as an athlete, and my lunch has 150 less calories than it had before! I'm literally starving!
We are incapable of feeding ourselves! We only eat at school since our parents never buy food anymore!
There should be a law that McDonald's dollar menu provides enough calories to keep athletes going as well! And those Applebees burger and fries used to have more fries on the plate for my $7.50! Congress, where are you!
Posted by: Claire at September 25, 2012 11:48 PM (zOnl9)
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