July 31, 2012
— andy There are several good pieces at NRO on the 100th anniversary of Milton Friedman's birth. Here's an excerpt from that of one of Friedman's former students, Thomas Sowell.
Like many, if not most, people who became prominent as opponents of the Left, Professor Friedman began on the Left. Decades later, looking back at a statement of his own from his early years, he said: “The most striking feature of this statement is how thoroughly Keynesian it is.”No one converted Milton Friedman, either in economics or in his views on social policy. His own research, analysis, and experience converted him.
As a professor, he did not attempt to convert students to his political views. I made no secret of the fact that I was a Marxist when I was a student in Professor FriedmanÂ’s course, but he made no effort to change my views. He once said that anybody who was easily converted was not worth converting.
Below the fold is a segment from a great appearance by Friedman on Phil Donahue's show in 1979. It's striking how much the questions from Donahue and his audience sound like the Obama/Fauxcahontas/Occupy Wall Street Democrat rhetoric today.
The entire interview is worth watching if you have ~45 minutes to spare.
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Posted by: JDTAY at July 31, 2012 04:45 AM (a0nis)
Posted by: Scobface at July 31, 2012 04:49 AM (IoNBC)
Posted by: Mekan at July 31, 2012 04:53 AM (hm8tW)
<<In 1975, Milton Friedman said this: “I do not believe that the solution to our problem is simply to elect the right people. The important thing is to establish a political climate of opinion which will make it politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing. Unless it is politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing, the right people will not do the right thing either, or if they try, they will shortly be out of office.”>>
Video http://tinyurl.com/ch8ke37
Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 31, 2012 04:56 AM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at July 31, 2012 05:03 AM (8y9MW)
Here it is http://tinyurl.com/89pslns
Discusses some current examples of the wrong people doing the right things.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 31, 2012 05:05 AM (tf9Ne)
The best indicator is simple history. The US is the only nation that has endorsed socialism that hasn't failed yet, and it is well on its way.
Posted by: Vic at July 31, 2012 05:05 AM (YdQQY)
Watching the full video right now. Hilariously Donahue claims hood ornaments impale babies, women and children at 5:50.
Hilarious
Posted by: Ben at July 31, 2012 05:07 AM (C2Y4l)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 31, 2012 05:08 AM (HLFzM)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 31, 2012 08:50 AM (nEUpB)
You can see a few points where he wanted to try shouting Milton down rather than let him have his say. He actually looks pissy just before they went to commercial break.
Posted by: Deathknyte at July 31, 2012 05:08 AM (QZ5wR)
I can't watch the video at the moment, but I remember enough of Donahue from when my mother would have him on in the background when I was a kid to know EXACTLY what the interview must be like. Good grief but Donahue was a bloviating old fool. Is he still alive? Did I miss it when he kicked the bucket? Because he seemed like an octogenarian when I was still in single digits.
Man I miss Milton.
Posted by: Ben at July 31, 2012 09:03 AM (C2Y4l)
Ditto.
Second look at Zombie!Reagan/Zombie!Friedman 2012?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 31, 2012 05:08 AM (4df7R)
<<In 1975, Milton Friedman said this: “I do not believe that the solution
to our problem is simply to elect the right people. The important thing
is to establish a political climate of opinion which will make it
politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing.
Unless it is politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right
thing, the right people will not do the right thing either, or if they
try, they will shortly be out of office.”>>
Video http://tinyurl.com/ch8ke37
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This will have to be repeated over and over. We are pushing a squish into office. We need to squeeze him in the right directions.
Posted by: Hobojerky at July 31, 2012 05:13 AM (MrM2k)
Posted by: Ben at July 31, 2012 05:13 AM (C2Y4l)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 31, 2012 05:13 AM (1Jaio)
They went commie in the 30s. A lot of them recanted in the 50s when it became apparent that they were going to lose their overpaid careers, but then the 60s came and they went back to being communists.
They just will not admit it.
Posted by: Vic at July 31, 2012 05:15 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: USA at July 31, 2012 05:15 AM (6Cjut)
Posted by: Geraldo Rivera at July 31, 2012 05:15 AM (IoNBC)
Posted by: Tami at July 31, 2012 05:18 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Fritz at July 31, 2012 05:18 AM (/ZZCn)
He is still alive.
Posted by: Ben at July 31, 2012 09:13 AM (C2Y4l)
An internal memo released by msnbc confirmed that he was cancelled because they didn't want his anti-war stance to become the face of msnbc.
Posted by: Deathknyte at July 31, 2012 05:19 AM (QZ5wR)
http://tinyurl.com/d584zyw
A young man asks Friedman why we cannot have a society that strives for equality first.. the same thing the libtard OWS types cry about.. the income inequality "problem"
His short answer: "A society that aims for equality before liberty, will end up with neither equality nor liberty."
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 31, 2012 05:20 AM (UTq/I)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at July 31, 2012 05:20 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 31, 2012 05:24 AM (1Jaio)
Donahue is a schmuck, but I will give him credit. At least he lets Milton Friedman make his points and complete sentences. Could you imagine getting this type of interview today? On O'Reilly or some other anchor?
While I don't miss the old time media, I do miss the days when guests were allowed to make their point.
Posted by: Ben at July 31, 2012 05:26 AM (C2Y4l)
He got the clinically, but yes, stupid is not insane.
Posted by: Deathknyte at July 31, 2012 05:26 AM (QZ5wR)
Posted by: maddogg at July 31, 2012 05:26 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: eman at July 31, 2012 05:27 AM (t2228)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at July 31, 2012 05:27 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: Steff McKee at July 31, 2012 05:27 AM (gKyV6)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at July 31, 2012 05:27 AM (PUuQq)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at July 31, 2012 05:28 AM (Ho2rs)
It looked to me like donahue really wanted to interrupt him to put forth more stupidity. It would have been great if they supplied Milton with a chalkboard so he could diagram some ideas for phil and the audience. I feel a lot of what he was saying was bouncing off phil's head instead of going in.
Posted by: Deathknyte at July 31, 2012 05:29 AM (QZ5wR)
"A lot"? Try "all"
Posted by: chemjeff at July 31, 2012 05:30 AM (d/5qf)
>>>>donahue would not allow that if he had a show now......
I would agree. That is a product of the times though. It reflects the change in our media.
I was watching a Johnny Carson interview with Ayn Rand the other day. It was amazing. He kept her on for the entire show and let her speak her mind, only interupting to ask questions or have her clarify a point.
There was a time in American media when shows would bring on one guest and have them make their point.
Posted by: Ben at July 31, 2012 05:31 AM (C2Y4l)
Posted by: Bon Qui Qui at July 31, 2012 05:31 AM (+SXKV)
Posted by: eman at July 31, 2012 05:32 AM (t2228)
>>>It looked to me like donahue really wanted to interrupt him to put forth more stupidity. It would have been great if they supplied Milton with a chalkboard so he could diagram some ideas for phil and the audience. I feel a lot of what he was saying was bouncing off phil's head instead of going in.
Donahue does argue a bit in the Q&A section of the show, but when they're sitting next to each other, Donahue let's Milton make his point.
It's not perfect, but compare it to today's news shows. Think of the last time you saw Bill O'Reilly. This Friedman-Donahue interview is much better in comparison.
I hate Bill O'Reilly, I think he's a populist, but I used to watch his show because he had the best guests. He would have on people that I wanted to hear speak. I don't watch him anymore because he won't let those people speak. He tries to finish their sentences(often incorrectly) and he dismisses their points while their making them.
I'm not saying I'm nostalgic for Donahue, but I am a bit nostalgic for the old fashioned interviews. Too often the interviews are dominated by the news personality. I would much prefer to hear the guest speak. That's why I tune in.
Posted by: Ben at July 31, 2012 05:35 AM (C2Y4l)
Posted by: eman at July 31, 2012 05:36 AM (t2228)
We're not to that point, yet, but we're certainly to the point where it's very easy to find out what's going on.
But it's still easy to ignore current events, if you want.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at July 31, 2012 05:37 AM (8y9MW)
They still have a monopoly on TV and newspaper news.
Posted by: Vic at July 31, 2012 05:39 AM (YdQQY)
Well, not really. You just have to be lazy and set in your ways. The libs who know nothing about Fast and Furious or who think ObamaCare only has a mandate in it are the ones who only get their news from left-wing sources because they don't bother to check anything else.
Posted by: chemjeff at July 31, 2012 05:41 AM (d/5qf)
Posted by: SH at July 31, 2012 05:41 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Bon Qui Qui at July 31, 2012 05:41 AM (+SXKV)
Posted by: Mekan at July 31, 2012 08:53 AM (hm8tW)
He still is, though festering too.
Posted by: TexBob at July 31, 2012 05:42 AM (QIHD1)
Posted by: buzzsawmonkey at July 31, 2012 05:44 AM (n0wVY)
Posted by: eman at July 31, 2012 05:44 AM (t2228)
I was trying to be nice. For some reason I used to think ol' phil was intelligent. Must be the fact I was still under 10 and thought adults knew everything.
Posted by: Ben at July 31, 2012 09:35 AM (C2Y4l)
I wouldn't know, I quit watching tv when even the cartoons stopped being entertaining.
Posted by: Deathknyte at July 31, 2012 05:45 AM (QZ5wR)
Posted by: Steff McKee at July 31, 2012 09:27 AM (gKyV6)
Oh, SCTV did another talk show like that once; a complete airhead of a host (Stan Something - he wasn't a recurrent character) who somehow managed to get the Holy Grail of guests on one show: Aaron Copland, Betty Friedan and Alexander Solzhenitsyn. Then he brings them out and asks them, "Who is your ideal woman?" And despite all odds, they actuallly manage to get an interesting conversation going: Copland like Paula Prentiss, Betty went for Loni Anderson, and Solzhenitsyn like Drew Barrymore, because of her heavy eyebrows. Then the host suddenly cuts them off and announces they're out of time.
Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at July 31, 2012 05:47 AM (KOHFD)
He would have on people that I wanted to hear speak. I don't watch him anymore because he won't let those people speak.
This is why I don't even bother watching any of the talking head shows. No one is allowed to finish a sentence. It's infuritating and annoying and if I want to be constantly interrupted and yelled at and told that no I'm wrong about everything, I'll start dating again.
Posted by: alexthechick SMOD. Our only hope. at July 31, 2012 05:48 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at July 31, 2012 05:50 AM (QBSWR)
Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at July 31, 2012 05:50 AM (SDkq3)
Posted by: alexthechick SMOD. Our only hope. at July 31, 2012 09:48 AM (VtjlW) <<<<<
You could try not dating assholes. Jus sayin'.....
Posted by: maddogg at July 31, 2012 05:53 AM (OlN4e)
Phil Donahue's first guest when he got a TV show back in 1968 was Madelyn Murray O'Hare. He loved to have her on to tweak religious people. Phil grew up a Catholic and came to hate his own church.
Phil also had Ayn Rand on his show at least twice, and those were interesting too. Uncle Miltie is much more self-assured than Ayn Rand, as he was used to debating and being attacked and disputed in public, and it took a lot to put him off stride (I never saw that happen). Ayn Rand was not a public person and she was always surprised when she tried to be logical and reasonable and people reacted emotionally and attacked her. Phil seemed to enjoy some of the criticisms of her, but I think he had her on because the was an atheist.
I grew up listening to Phil on the radio as a kid (back in the early '60's) and he wasn't always such a jerk. He became one, more and more, over time.
John Kenneth Galbraith also vigorously disagreed with Milton Friedman, and used to say that Friedman's friendly and soft-spoken demeanor was what made him likable, since Galbraith hated his views on economics and politics.
Galbraith was quite the obnoxious collectivist when he was a New Dealer working for Roosevelt in the '40's.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at July 31, 2012 05:53 AM (RFeQD)
To everyone who thinks Milton Friedman is right are forgetting something.Socialism does work. My plan works. The difference from all past attempt at socialism is...
...Me
Posted by: Barrack Insane Obama at July 31, 2012 05:55 AM (SY7nI)
Posted by: SH at July 31, 2012 09:41 AM (gmeXX)
In my opinion, language is what is at the heart of ALL of the hyper-partisan nonsense that playacts as political debate today. The regressives have taken control and forced their own definitions into every conversation until any devaiation from those definitions is viewed as heresy. Our side has to stop accepting the regressives' premises and start reasserting reality.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 31, 2012 05:58 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 31, 2012 09:58 AM (4df7R)
Statr with rejecting their basic premise: "People are perfectable, given a perfect program administered by a perfect party."
Posted by: Minuteman at July 31, 2012 06:04 AM (SY7nI)
I love how Donahue uses Sears and KMart (this may be in the full interview), which are nothings now in the field of retailing. That is the pefect understanding of how liberals think. If you are at the top of your industry, you will always remain so because you are so powerful. Never thinking that a small store from po-dunk Arkansas will basically put them both out of business, never thinking that a geek thing like TCP/IP will lead to a store that may threaten them all.
Posted by: SH at July 31, 2012 06:08 AM (gmeXX)
http://starphoenixbase.com/?p=261
Posted by: Ruthless at July 31, 2012 06:09 AM (oYccn)
In the full interview, Donahue is very concerned with "multi-national corporations." You never really hear that term used much anymore.
Posted by: SH at July 31, 2012 06:12 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 31, 2012 06:12 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Scobface at July 31, 2012 06:14 AM (IoNBC)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 31, 2012 06:15 AM (+SmuD)
Posted by: naturalfake at July 31, 2012 06:16 AM (54vf8)
Posted by: @PurpAv at July 31, 2012 06:17 AM (apjdA)
Liberals (unless they are psychology majors) are not aware of Maslov's hierarchy of needs). Instead of starting at the bottom of the triangle and working up, liberals start at the top and work down.
The problem? You starve to death first unless you can steal from someone else.
Posted by: Vic at July 31, 2012 06:17 AM (YdQQY)
They don't see that as a problem, they see it as the goal.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at July 31, 2012 06:18 AM (8y9MW)
Notice the word Friedman repeats over and over? Freedom.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at July 31, 2012 06:19 AM (3ZjAP)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 31, 2012 10:17 AM (ZAYlH)
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Posted by: Vic at July 31, 2012 06:19 AM (YdQQY)
For the left, multi-national corporations become outsourcing.
Global cooling becomes Acid rain becomes Ozone becomes Global Warming becomes Climate Change
Posted by: SH at July 31, 2012 06:20 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 31, 2012 06:21 AM (ZAYlH)
Posted by: @PurpAv at July 31, 2012 06:22 AM (apjdA)
Where have such smart men of integrity, honest intellectual discourse and unbiased outcomes gone?
Posted by: Exile at July 31, 2012 06:24 AM (GGCsk)
Well, that would explain how Obama was elected.
Posted by: WalrusRex at July 31, 2012 06:24 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: @PurpAv at July 31, 2012 06:27 AM (apjdA)
Where have such smart men of integrity, honest intellectual discourse and unbiased outcomes gone?
The camps.
Posted by: Soon at July 31, 2012 06:27 AM (85mgW)
Posted by: SH at July 31, 2012 06:27 AM (gmeXX)
Jugdish says as he sits in the metro with no power.
Anyone beside me note that Indian produces over half it's electricity from coal and they said 100,000 megawatts are not available because they don't have coal for the plants?
I guess that no nuke shit isn't working out to much for them. Wonder how our closing all these coal plants here will help with the next heat wave when Barry's mob will be gone.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at July 31, 2012 06:28 AM (3ZjAP)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 31, 2012 06:29 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: @PurpAv at July 31, 2012 06:29 AM (apjdA)
Posted by: Solar Flares at July 31, 2012 06:30 AM (9TTOe)
"Can anyone imagine a network talk show having a world famous economist as a guest today?"
It would need to be a reality show. Someone see if Peter Schiff would be interested in being next year's "The Bachelor" contestant!
Posted by: reason at July 31, 2012 06:31 AM (sPO/s)
Posted by: SMOD at July 31, 2012 06:32 AM (jucos)
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr is rolling in his grave though. Judged by the content of their character is not a Democrat hallmark. Instead the party and its followers judge each other over who they were born to. Who has the most exotic lineage, real or contrived. Only thing missing is the long lost Princess Anastasia... oh wait that is Obama.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 31, 2012 06:32 AM (+SmuD)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 31, 2012 06:32 AM (jucos)
Posted by: @PurpAv at July 31, 2012 06:33 AM (apjdA)
@100 - Think you can put off your "reunion tour" a couple more decades?
Perhaps my friend "Benjamin Franklin" might change your mind...?
Perhaps a suitcase full of them might change your mind....?
Posted by: Michael Mann at July 31, 2012 06:34 AM (sPO/s)
The entire interview is worth watching if you have ~45 minutes to spare.
One should make time to see this. Talk about a happy warrior.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at July 31, 2012 06:34 AM (VLifP)
Posted by: maddogg at July 31, 2012 06:35 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: @PurpAv at July 31, 2012 06:36 AM (apjdA)
Posted by: @PurpAv at July 31, 2012 10:27 AM (apjdA) [/o]
Vision maybe. But a plan?
They had a vision of dozens of sparkling, modern cities filled to the brim with busy, productive workers. They built the cities... but there's no one to fill them.
They had a vision of high speed rail connecting Beijing with surrounding cities. They built the high speed rail... sorta. The corruption and graft was mindblowing, and the train is less reliable than a bus. Whole sections remain unfinished.
Yeah, I wouldn't put much stock in their moon landing "plan" until they actually make it happen.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 31, 2012 06:36 AM (4df7R)
How hard it is for someone to make a page on IMDB? I would love for one of the Moron Horde to make an actor's page for SMOD.
The resume could include a cameo in "Deep Impact." Possibly even an uncredited extra in "Space Camp."
Posted by: reason at July 31, 2012 06:36 AM (sPO/s)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 31, 2012 06:36 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: buzzsawmonkey at July 31, 2012 06:37 AM (n0wVY)
Posted by: @PurpAv at July 31, 2012 06:38 AM (apjdA)
Posted by: maddogg at July 31, 2012 06:38 AM (OlN4e)
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Or thirty years before it started.
I remember that Donohue one time had Hitler henchman and war criminal Albert Speer on and he was treated more courteously than Friedman.
Posted by: WalrusRex at July 31, 2012 06:39 AM (Hx5uv)
"I think being converted into lubricant might be most unpleasant..."
Bring your Kindle. It sorta takes a while...
Posted by: a pterodactyl at July 31, 2012 06:40 AM (sPO/s)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 31, 2012 06:41 AM (tf9Ne)
I've seen it a thousand times and I still love it.
Long way from a thousand viewings, but I got in another one.
Thanks :--)
Posted by: fluffy at July 31, 2012 06:41 AM (z9HTb)
Posted by: maddogg at July 31, 2012 06:42 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: @PurpAv at July 31, 2012 06:43 AM (apjdA)
Bring your Kindle. It sorta takes a while...
The great and mighty Sarlaac is quicker.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 31, 2012 06:43 AM (+SmuD)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 31, 2012 10:41 AM (tf9Ne)
Obama - The Man Who Sold Himself
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 31, 2012 06:45 AM (+SmuD)
Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at July 31, 2012 06:45 AM (8R1Yt)
That could go in a fortune cookie.
Posted by: fluffy at July 31, 2012 06:46 AM (z9HTb)
"He is likely also to be related to the person that sold his relative into slavery."
OH MAN. If the delve into Obama's ancestry wound up with that little find, Jell-o would experience a pudding-cup shortage of cataclysmic proportions!
PUDDAGEDDON!
Posted by: reason at July 31, 2012 06:46 AM (sPO/s)
Wow, Barry going full Lizzie Warren on the sidebar? Related to the US's first slave? On the plus side we might finally pry some records out of him to prove it.
It's such a clear desperation move to make American blacks feel like Barky's actually got some kind of connection to them. I find it funny, considering a lot of American blacks today probably don't have any slave blood in them anyway.
I love that it's America's FIRST slave that is supposedly related to Barky. Not the second, or the 294th; the FIRST. Give me a fucking BREAK. Even if it's true, a few thousand people in this country are probably related to the first slave. Hell, I could be related to the first slave, and I'm whiter than something very, very white. Anyone heard of Six Degrees of Separation? It's called a family tree because of all the branches; get it?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 31, 2012 06:46 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 31, 2012 06:47 AM (+SmuD)
Solzhenitsyn like Drew Barrymore, because of her heavy eyebrows.
Actually, he liked Brooke Shields. I think Drew Barrymore was still a little kid at the time.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 31, 2012 06:47 AM (DuH+r)
PA, the corrupt railroads built with federal money folded like a cheap suit as soon as the federal money dried up. They were the solyndra of the day.
Meanwhile the Great Northern Railroad built with private money prospered. Imagine that.
The thing that most helped the Westward expansion was cheap, and sometimes even free, land from the government. The cities were full of poor people from Europe that were just dying to get their own land, and they did both.
Posted by: Vic at July 31, 2012 06:48 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 31, 2012 06:50 AM (+SmuD)
Posted by: Vic at July 31, 2012 06:51 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Dang at July 31, 2012 06:53 AM (Ky1+e)
Posted by: @PurpAv at July 31, 2012 10:43 AM (apjdA)
That's just it. No it doesn't. The US transcontinental railroad was expensive and riddled with corruption, but in the end it worked. It fulfilled a need the country had, and in so doing it changed the way the country operated.
In China? Not so much. Their plans for modernization -- be it through railroads or cities or what have you -- fall apart because they're trying to force the plans on the country instead of letting the country's needs inform those decisions. What good is a city when no one wants to live there? What good is a badly built, unreliable train when a bus, car, or fricking MULE is more reliable?
It's exactly the same as the idiot high speed rail project out in California. It's expensive, unnecessary, and doomed to debt-ridden hell. Yet they go forward with it because they want to make people behave a certain way. "Cars are bad. Mass transportation is good!" It doesn't matter that no one sees the need for this train; it doesn't matter that the people of California have said that, given the choice again, they'd vote AGAINST the train. All that matters is, "Cars bad. Trains good."
Social engineering through actual engineering is going to fail every single time.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 31, 2012 06:56 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Exile at July 31, 2012 10:24 AM (GGCsk)
Right here!
Posted by: Galt's Gulch at July 31, 2012 06:56 AM (UH0ly)
Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at July 31, 2012 06:58 AM (KOHFD)
Posted by: @PurpAv at July 31, 2012 07:00 AM (apjdA)
Posted by: @PurpAv at July 31, 2012 07:05 AM (apjdA)
Posted by: Shiggz RoketSturgeon at July 31, 2012 07:16 AM (RfvTE)
Posted by: PA at July 31, 2012 11:00 AM (apjdA)
I have some pictures going through the Truckee pass on I-80 where you can still see remnants of the original railroad.
Posted by: Vic at July 31, 2012 07:20 AM (YdQQY)
I think about this alot, having come of age during this time period, and in college. It was a pivotal time then, as it is now. Guess what? Things got better after we elected Reagan. It was not immediate, it took a few years. And yes, I was a lefty back then. We should be prepared to fight this battle for a lifetime, and pass it on to our children if we are interested in keeping the Republic..
Posted by: small town girl at July 31, 2012 07:29 AM (KWSy8)
Anybody want to hear him arguing that heroin should be legal? Guaranteed to blow some minds around here.
Posted by: FUBAR at July 31, 2012 07:30 AM (mdhVr)
For every one of his assertions that Freedom really is better and that government is the problem, Friedman pulls out an impressive array of both factual data and anecdotes so that people really get it.
Posted by: Arms Merchant at July 31, 2012 07:31 AM (+XVQe)
Free to Choose helped convert me, too. Oh, and reality.
Posted by: PJ at July 31, 2012 08:10 AM (DQHjw)
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I like this new tone. Kiss my ass could be the new Rombley meme for dealing with an out of control press.
Posted by: sTevo at July 31, 2012 04:41 AM (WCngX)